The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Tom Brady leaving the Patriots

Episode Date: March 17, 2020

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Radio, all over Fox Sports Radio, all over our social media platforms, all over Channel 83 series, XM. What a day. I'm driving in this morning on the 405 in Los Angeles. And, you know, I'm doing it from a radio studio this week. And so just about the area where I turn off to Fox Sports Television, it gets announced on the radio. And I think, wow, in a week in a month that has given us a lot of sad and frightening days, For a radio guy, this is a gift. Tom Brady will not be a patriot.

Congrats to T.J. Hushman Zata on our show. Good for Jeff Darlington, a buddy, a friend, a good reporter who called this. Am I surprised? Yes, I am. I said, you know, 75%. I think it's hard to leave smart, hard to leave friends, hard to leave family. Tom Brady is family to me. It's all set up.

But there were signs. I mean, we said, listen, put his house up for sale. His trainer put his house up for sale. You know, am I surprised? Yeah. Shocked. You know, shocked is C&OJ Simpson in a Bronco on the 405 with cops in front of him and behind him. That's shocking, okay? Shocking. I'm not shocked much in sports. Listen, my number one wish for Tom Brady from the start has always been. Wrap it up, retire, put a bow on it. I do not want to see him.

with a pirate flag on his helmet wearing orange slash pewter. I don't want to see that. I don't want to see him wearing silver and black with an eye patch on the logo in Vegas. I don't want to see that. I don't want to see him in a half-empty stadium in L.A. With a coach, to me, I don't know if he's good. And for a team the Chargers that's renting the stadium from the other team. I don't want to see any of it.

I want to see Jeter here. RBI walk-off single Yankee Stadium. Seacrest out. I want to see Kobe. Drop 60. Drop the mic. I want to see Elway. I don't want to see the Johnny Unitas thing.

I don't want to see wobbling over to a franchise that's the second biggest in their own city. But two things we know. Number one, we watch Tom Brady. last year. Yell and scream at teammates. He's unhappy. We saw the documentary. He's unhappy.

Okay, that's why there was any possibility he would leave. You leave when you're unhappy. And the second thing, I don't think it is a coincidence that Tom Brady leaves and makes a decision, you know, 10 hours after Stefan Diggs signs with Buffalo. Okay, I'm not Tom Brady, but I've left cross-country four times. every single time. I'm 50-50. And I waited for a sign.

Tom Brady was 50-50, or he would have announced this a week ago, two weeks ago. He was on the fence, and he waited for a sign. They needed tight end. Cleveland paid for it. They needed a wide receiver. Buffalo, Stefan Diggs, Arizona, D'Andre Hopkins paid for it. Tom waited for it.

I absolutely believe if Stefan Diggs is a patriot this morning, Tom stays. Edelman's your two, sinews your three, good backs, center returns. Tom's like, all right. Again, it's not analogous to Tom Brady, four times I've left. Each time, I waited for a sign from my bosses. When I left ESPN, I walked into an office. John Wildhack, nice guy, athletic director now at Syracuse. Wonderful man. Had dinner a couple weeks earlier.

Told my wife, I'm going to a meeting. I'll text you when I get out. I'll have an answer. We talked for two minutes. He said something I didn't want to hear. Texted my wife before I got under the elevator eight feet from him. I said, we're going to L.A. Let's roll. Tom just waited. DeAndre Hopkins, they could have had him for a second rounder.

Well, the Patriots don't have one. get one. They always do. They'd give him second rounders. They'd probably give them a first. They could have done it. They could have done it. I mean, Dallas keeps paying everybody a hundred million dollars. They could have done it. It's not like Dallas is using a bank in Switzerland. Tom Brady kept waiting and waiting. I don't think it's a coincidence. March 16th to 18th, we all knew that was the date. Didn't all the people that come on my show, they were going, oh, you got to thread the needle. New England's got to figure out. thread the needle. Can they thread the needle? Can they sign this? So here we are. March 17th.

So March 16th yesterday was a crazy day. Everybody's signing. A lot of skill people, a lot of receivers. Randall Cobb goes here. Amari Cooper resigns. DeAndre Hopkins goes here. There's a lot of wide receivers changing teams. Tom sat and waited. Bill's got better. Baltimore. Cleveland got better. Colts looked like they're getting better. Tom waited and waited. and he saw top, tight end and wide receiver talent, the kind he yelled at teammates last year because they weren't as good as those players sign elsewhere. And I don't think it's a coincidence

that eight hours after Stefan Diggs and D'Andre Hopkins specifically Diggs moves. Mike Reese reports this. Tom Brady initiated contact late last night and came over. Why late last night? night. So if you look at when he contacted him, oh, a couple hours after Diggs signed with Buffalo. You think it's a coincidence? I do not. I do not. This idea that Tom knew he was. Tom, I've done it four times. For all of you listening, men and women who have moved,

it's not easy to move. Nobody really wants to move. We're all creatures of habit. You don't want to move. You don't. You like your coaches. You know Belichick's great. Josh McDaniels works. You know the system. You know the language. Old dogs, new tricks. You know the story. We don't want to learn them. But you wait for signs. You're on the fence. You wait and you wait and you wait. And the thing we need receivers, tight ends, they're available. Greg Olson, Austin Cooper, Stavon Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins, to a lesser extent, Amari Cooper. You wait, you wait, you wait. Diggs gets traded. Tom, two hours later. Meets Kraft, meaning he probably called him 90 minutes earlier.

So if you met him late last night, when did he call and set it up? It's not like you walk over to Robert Kraft's house. Hello? Yeah, it's Tom. I thought I'd stop by unannounced. Tom saw it, got on the phone, called Kraft, got in the SUV, drove over, told him. I mean, D'Andre Hopkins, you could have gotten him for a second round pick. Hell, their coach, Bill O'Brien's a former Patriot O.C.

Belichick knows him. You have his phone number. Tom Brady, you have his phone number. So if you've never moved around the country, if you've always lived kind of in the same area, I can only tell you the way it works for me four times, and I've discussed this with a lot of buddies who have moved. Nobody wants to move. You don't. It's a pain in the ass.

It really is. That's salty language for you, West Coast. early people. But we're all at home anyway. You're all watching Netflix. They swore on that thing nonstop. All right, let me go to this. On another network, apparently Robert Kraft was watching this morning and called the show during the commercial break and told the people on that show. I'd like to be very clear. If Tom Brady wanted to stay, we would have worked it out. Tom Brady wanted to leave. No, he didn't.

What he wanted was wide receivers and tight ends. He didn't want to leave. This is what's known as protecting the enterprise. By the way, Bill Belichick, who's not a big, I'm going to release a lengthy PR sheet, did this morning, protecting the enterprise. Belichick went on to say, you know, I'll just give you the best lines.

Tom was not just a player who bought into the program, He was one of the original creators. He lived and perpetuated our culture on a daily basis. He was a tone center and a barraiser. Tom and I will always have a great relationship built on love, admiration, respect, and appreciation. Sometimes in life it takes time to pass to truly appreciate something or somebody. But that's not been the case with Tom, special person and the greatest quarterback of all time. Oh, he finally said it.

Think that's a coincidence? You're telling me there's a lot of coincidence. Incidences. Hour after Dig Signs calls Kraft at the house. Belichick can't bring himself to give Brady a game ball. It was uncomfortable when he did it this year. And the reason Kraft and the reason Belichick are doing this, because Tom's going to win this divorce in the short term. Tom's going to go to, let's say, the Chargers, 5 and 11. You think they're going to be 5 and 11 with Tom? I'm going to say no. He's going to be 5 and 11 with Tom. He's going to say, no. He's going to go. He's going to. He's going to say, he's going to say, he's going to say, he's going to go to Tampa Bay with all those weapons. Seven and nine. Think they're going to be seven and nine with Tommy? No. Tom's going to have better stats than last year. And the narrative is going to be and Belichick knows it. Oh hell. Tom had stuff left in the tank. Oh my God. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams. They may just re-sign Melvin Gordon, I'm told. Austin Echler, Hunter Henry. Tom's throwing for 4800 yards. Tom's going to have 39 touchdowns and seven picks. Trey Turner.

solve the guard. They draft the left tackle. If he goes to the Chargers or he goes to Tampa, Tom's putting up numbers, baby. He's putting up Peyton Manning Denver first year numbers. Remember that? And they know it. Tom's winning this divorce short term. Now, in seven years, Belichick may have another Super Bowl. But when you know you're going to lose the divorce, you put on a happy face.

Right? You know, your wife leaves you, starts dating a stud you go to the gym hey i feel great look at me weight's coming off you know new england knows short term tom's winning this thing new england's got jarrott stidham my bad they may get andy dalton they have no weapons they have no quarterback they have good running backs not great as you saw last year when the o line in front of them and the fullback was hurt so when you know you're going to lose a divorce short term. And I would argue New England today. Quarterback, tight end wide receiver, worse weapons in the league.

I don't even think it's arguable. You tell me who's worse. Tom's going, he's going to cherry pick the weapons. Chargers have to be considered. Tampa Bay. You know, I'm reading this morning, people are saying, the Colts are out of it. Colts are going to get Philip Rivers. Why wouldn't he go to the Colts? They have a weapon issue. Eric Ebron left. Running backs are B guys.

Receiver 1. Tom's going to a place that's got weapons. Tom will sacrifice a little old line. He's not going to, he wants to go to a place and go, oh, Tom's got a little sauce left. So when you know that, Kraft calls a television show this morning during a break. An owner of an NFL team. May I talk to the host?

How often has that happened to anybody ever? Let's start with it doesn't and work our way up. And then Belichick, he doesn't even know where the PR department is in Foxborough. He hasn't walked past it. They come to him this morning. He rushes into the office and does a lengthy, heartfelt, I love you. All coincidences. When you're going to lose a divorce, you hit the gym.

Make sure words out. You're doing great. Finally. Got rid of her. Look at me. I can do what I want. All right. There are options.

And you keep telling me, I don't even know why I listen to you, people. You keep telling me, the one place that's the best fit won't happen. I'm going to double down on it. You keep telling me. And I keep listening to you. You know, my audience is probably right.

I'll just check. them off the list. Well, audience is probably right. Well, what do I know, despite having amazing sources? And being America's media icon, what do I know? Nothing. I'm going to listen to my audience. I'm not listening to you.

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This isn't one of those times where you tease us with it and don't say anything? No. You've been known to do that. Listen, these are egregious charges. I am, hold on. You just have to hold on, folks. I know you're in your cars. I'm tedious to begin with. this has got to be ridiculous. Just stick with me on this stuff. Okay.

Okay. Okay. There's a bunch of teams being mentioned. The Chargers want him. The owner wants him. They've made a pitch. That has been sourced. That is true.

I've made the calls on this. Tampa Bay wants him. I used to work there. I have it sourced. They've made a pitch. The two places I know that have made a pitch are the Chargers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, there are places like Chicago, no salary cap space, but interesting.

Dallas, hell of fun, but they paid everybody in the NFL except Brady. It is, the Colts, I'm told it's not going to happen. They're moving toward Phillip Rivers. I believe it's down, I never bought into the Raiders. I believe it's down to the L.A. Chargers. And there are things I love about the Chargers. And not that I live here. It's a big city.

The weapons, if Tom won with the Chargers, he would get credit for it. It wouldn't be the coach. It wouldn't be the, I mean, they weren't very good last year. It wouldn't be the owner. It wouldn't be the coach. It would be Tom. And then there's Tampa, which has very good weapons, a veteran offensive head coach. You know, it's not a

POW city, but Tom does want to be as close to his family as he can be. So when you look at all these offers, the two-hour flight to New York City where his family is, is Tampa. If you say weapons, okay, what's left? Chargers, Tampa.

Weapons. Chargers, but tampas are good. Proximity. Tampa. I have somebody telling me this morning. In fact, this is very interesting. This is not a football source. It's a icon source.

It is somebody in Tom Stratosphere that knows Tom. That is a famous person. And he says, Tampa. That's what he's telling me. I am contacting teams. That is what I'm hearing. I'm hearing Tampa Bay. Now, other reports are saying Tom's going to, Tom's going to, he's undecided.

Everybody's saying that. I still think the charges are a better fit. That's my opinion. I think the charges are a better fit. You know, I tease something and then I got this text. One of the things that's interesting about this, you know, and again, there's just a lot of different places he could go. I thought to myself, what I've tried to do as a sportscaster for years is what would I do. Now, I'm obviously not a superstar athlete, but what would I do? I still contend the Dallas

Cowboys. I mean, they paid everybody except their quarterback. I'd go to, I'd go to Dallas. That's what I would do. That's where I'd go. It's the biggest brand. I'd be guaranteed success for those weapons, that back in that offensive line. I got Mike McCarthy's been a Super Bowl winning head coach. Jerry Jones mantra is don't settle. His yacht has two helicopter landing pads, not one, too. His stadium the world's best. Dak feels like settling. It does. Dak feels like settling.

Zeke's not settling. Amari's not settling. Left tackle Tyron Smith isn't settling. Jalen Smith isn't settling. Jerry doesn't want to settle anymore. Dak feels like, uh, settling. Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl. That doesn't feel like settling.

Lincoln Riley, what do we know? But if you say it out loud, offensive line top five, running back top five, brand number one, owner aggressive, head coach, Super Bowl title. offensive coordinator young you can control wide receiver two good ones division winnable hell carson wince gets hurt a lot by week six you're facing dwayne haskins daniel jones and the eagle's backup if you just you know to me if it was me i'd go to dallas i'd get on the phone and say

you interested i mean they paid everybody except back um and i also think how do you get rid of a popular winning quarterback that you don't believe in long term you have tibo get peyton manning you have old Peyton Manning, get Andrew Luck. You have DAC. If Tom Brady signed there, it would, that's where I'd go. If I was ready, I'd go to Dallas. O-line weapons, you know, two-year deal. That's what I,

that's what I would do. But I got a Texas morning, Tampa Bay. It is not a football source. It is not a football source. So I, when I make, I'll just tell you, in the history of my career,

I use basketball sources for basketball, and football sources for football. This is a non-football source. It is a celebrity source. Very interesting. Veteran newsman, John Goulin. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. So speaking of the Cowboys, Amari Cooper and the Cowboys reached a five-year, $100 million deal last night. The deal makes Amari Cooper the second highest paid receiver in the league behind Julio Jones. Umari did technically become a free agent once the franchise tag deadline pass and they obviously gave their franchise tag to DAC.

And he was reportedly heavily pursued by the Washington Redskins. That sounds to me like a division rival driving up the price for the Cowboys. I think they knew the Cowboys were going to pay him. Colin, I'm a Cowboys fan. I like Amari Cooper. I think he's a very good receiver. I don't know that he is a $100 million second highest paid receipt. He's a number one, but he's not one of the top.

five number one. Listen to this right now. The Cowboys have the second highest paid receiver in the league, the highest paid defensive end, the highest paid running back, the second highest paid offensive line outside of Oakland. Okay. It's again, so now Dax deal could, the number Dacquants would make him like the second highest paid quarterback at some point are they using a Swiss bank?

I don't get it. This is, by the way, this is the model the Rams used. Seven rock stars, and you have no depth. And this morning, the Rams would pay people to get out of the Todd Gurley Brandon Cook contracts. They would pay people to get out of them. Well, and we're seeing the effect, too, with the Cowboys. We'll get to this later, but they lost Byron Jones, the Dolphins,

and they just lost, Robert Quinn actually signed a deal. Their pass rusher led them in Sachs last year. He signed a deal with the Bears. So their cap space is being eaten up, and they're going to have no depth. That's for sure. Okay, so yesterday we had, and, NFL, Fox NFL insider Jake Laser on the show after the DeAndre Hopkins trade. And he said there was another deal coming.

You pressed him. He would not even tell you what conference the trade was going to happen in. Shortly after he said that, though, Stefan Diggs tweeted, it's time for a new beginning. Last night, it all made sense. The Vikings sent their receivers Stefan Diggs to the Bills for a first round pick, along with a fifth and a sixth this year and a fourth in 2021. Diggs time with the Vikings a little bumpy. He's been rumored to be traded out of Minnesota multiple times.

Midseason we thought he was going to the Patriots. He started deleting everything on his Instagram account that involved him in a Vikings uniform. He now goes to Buffalo that made the playoffs last year, has a good young quarterback, has a really good coaching staff. They got a quarterback that can throw the ball a mile and Diggs can run deep. Are the bills now the favorite to win the AFC East for the first time since Jim Kelly? Well, let's be fair now. They've made the playoffs two times. Two out of the last three years.

Yeah, I mean, so we've said last year, we love their coach, we love their GM, and we like their quarterback, although I still think he's being coached up. I think right now he's not as good as his results. I think the coaching staff. Presumably he's getting better, right? He was at Wyoming. He was not getting great coaching at Wyoming, no offense. Now he's got, you have Cole Beasley, so you have a nice slot receiver.

They can run the ball. And now you have a number one receiver. Listen, everybody loves this move by Buffalo. Everybody's like, oh, Buffalo got Stefan. Diggs. A, deep threats don't matter generally December and January in Buffalo. B, Diggs gets hurt a lot, although I like him a lot. And Buffalo gave up a bunch of picks. Now, you know, fifth round, you know, after the, after the fourth round.

It's really a first. They gave him a first round pick for Dix. And in some, you know, later picks that, you know, Minnesota, Smart GM in Minnesota will probably use to bunch those and get like a third round pick. Sure. So I think Buffalo can say we got a guy that changes our vertical passing game. I think Minnesota can say he wasn't happy. We got a bunch of weapons and we got some draft capital.

So I think both teams won. I think we too often everybody's trying to win the trade. I don't think anybody won this trade. And finally, there's been a lot of speculation all offseason about what the Panthers are going to do with Cam Newton. Some thought they might keep him because he's actually his one year left on his deal and it's a pretty affordable quarterback contract. Others thought they're going to go for a total rebuild. We now kind of have an answer. According to Ian Rappaport of the NFL network, Cam's agent and the Panthers,

have mutually agreed to let Cam seek a trade. Cam is only, he only makes $19 million this year. He's got one new left on his deal. He's a very affordable quarterback, and he's probably worth more than that if he is healthy. What team would you like to see go get Cam? I wouldn't be interested in Cam. I said before, Baker Mayfield was undraftable if I was the GM, though not undraftable in the league.

Cam Newton is not acquireable if I'm a GM. though there's a spot for him in the league. I think he's much higher maintenance than the media's ever let on. I've had multiple people inside that organization tell me he's tough and plays hurt. A lot of drama, 24-7. I'm not interested in Cam Newton.

I think there's a market for him. I think it's smaller than people think. Veteran newsman John Gouleth. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herdline News. All right, Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback.com at Albert Breer,

somebody we rely on. So I'm just going to tell you, Albert, in my career of doing this 25, 30 years, I use football sources for football stories and basketball sources for basketball stories and college people for college stories. For the first time in my career, this morning I got a text from somebody outside of football that is close to Tom knows Tom and they just told me he's going to Tampa Bay. It came down to Miami, the Chargers in Tampa. Again, I've never used a non, a source, not involved with a sport I cover. But we live in a world now where celebrities and, you know, Tom is beyond a football player. Tom is a transcendent, iconic American celebrity. So I'll just start with that.

I am hedging my bet because I've never used a source outside of a sport for a story. But as I say that to you, what is your initial reaction? It makes sense. And I think there are a couple reasons why. You know, number one, one of his greatest frustrations in New England last year was what was around him. And that wouldn't be a problem in Tampa with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and O.J. Howard, Cam Brayette. There's their weapons there. The number two thing is flexibility within an offense.

You know, I think Bruce Ariens, although Brady isn't the best fit for Aryan's offense because that's a downfield offense where you're going to take a ton of hits. you know, Ariens, I think, has been through this before and can adjust. And so, I think being able to adjust the offense is number two. Number three, I do think Bruce Ariens, you know, previous experience with older quarterbacks, in particular Carson Palmer, is a selling point there, and that works. And number four, and I don't think you can underrate this one. The fact that it's actually a plane ride, like on a private jet, you can probably get there in the two, two, three hours from Tampa to New York,

I think will be a factor based on who they were going up against, and that's the Chargers. And so, you know, I think you roll all four of those things into one, and Tampa does make some sense, even if they aren't the sort of brand name franchises, I think he was probably hoping to go to in the beginning. If I would not have told you that, where were you leaning?

I actually thought in Tampa, you know, because I think the other element here, Colin, is that respect was a factor. And, you know, I think after 20 years of being in that unrelentious program, it's tough. It's, you know, it's demanding. There's all these different elements about being a patriot that are very, very difficult, that wear on people. And he was there longer than anybody else under Bill Belichick. You know, I think there's part of it that just, you know, wind up.

to be wooed, wanting to get the respect that you've earned over 20 years. And, you know, I think the fact that Tampa came, has been coming so strong is a factor in all this. And the fact that Tampa is saying, we are willing to build around you and make this about you the same way Denver made in about Peyton Manning in 2012, I think that's absolutely a factor. You know, and I think the Chargers offer a lot of good things, too. Yes, and so I'm not saying the Chargers don't.

But I do think distance would be a factor there. And I do think if there was a tiebreaker, the fact that he's going to settle his family in New York, the fact that he's got a son who lives in New York that he can't move, I think those are more important factors than some people may realize. Yeah. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback. Interesting. I said last night I have not analogous to Tom, obviously, Albert,

but I've moved cross-country four times. Yeah. And I've left four good companies. They were all really good companies. And you wait for signs. And I said, I don't think it's a coincidence. Stefan Diggs goes to Buffalo. D'Andre Hopkins could be had for a second rounder.

And Tom, about an hour and a half after Diggs goes to Buffalo, Coles Craft goes to his house. I think Tom would have stayed if Diggs is a patriot today, and maybe Greg Olson is a patriot. Am I wrong on that? No. I mean, I think Brady would have stayed under certain circumstances. I can tell you that is that.

If certain things had lined up, I think he would have been very open to it. The other piece of this is, you know, I think, you know, the Patriots did work on that. Like, and they did explore all options. And I can tell you that over the last two weeks, they've been very active in talking to different teams about receivers, about tight ends.

In fact, Campo was one of those. And so, yes, they talked to Houston about DeAndre Hopkins. Yes, they talked to the, Minnesota about Stefan Big. But they're in a complex, the situation they're facing is complex because they're getting older in a lot of spots because they haven't

drafted well over the last few years because they've got a little bit of a cap problem. And so with DeAndre Hopkins, because of their close relationships with a Houston organization, and because a big part of that trade was because there was a personality conflict between Bill O'Brien and DeAndre

Hopkins, I think they knew a little too much. Like they knew that Hopkins, wasn't going to practice a lot of the week, that Hopkins was, you know, in certain ways, a little bit of a different personality. And so they looked at that plus the money they were going to have to spend and pass on it. And I think with Diggs, who they talked to the Vikings about on Monday,

it was simply the draft capital was just, I mean, way, way more than they were willing to spend because they know they need to get younger. And they know that they need draft picks to try to re-infuse the roster with youth after having a, string of a few bad drafts in a row. And so, I mean, look, they tried. You know, they absolutely tried.

But, you know, I think maybe over the last few days, Belichick's radio silence to the Brady camp with a little bit of an acknowledgement that maybe the best thing was for everybody to move on, unless Brady wanted to come back on, on what the Patriots said out of their terms last week. By the way, this one makes me happy. And I, and I, we've been rooting for this. Teddy Bridgewater to Carolina is a story this morning. Yeah.

And it's interesting because, you know, I think one of the things that if you're Matt Rule, you want to do is you're not just putting players in different position group rooms because they're, because they're doing guys in and putting them in different position group rooms because they know what you're trying to teach. And they can, in a certain way, you know, be messengers for you. And so Teddy Bridgewater falls right along those lines for Matt Rule, but he's trying to build a Carolina. He's got background with, he's obviously got background with Joe Brady, the new offensive coordinator there. And so having Teddy Bridgewater in there as a bridge type of quarterback at the very least and a guy who can help teach the other quarterbacks who can help keep the other the opposite side of the ball what he's trying to get across.

I think it's a very, very valuable thing. It makes all the sense in the world. You know, obviously a piece of this is moving on from Camp Newt, but I don't think that I put it this way. The decision to move on from Cam Newton isn't purely about the type of player he is. I think this has also known some of the logistics of his contract situation and whether or not he'd be willing to be there and be a good soldier in a contract year when it was clear that his future was going to be somewhere else.

Albert, great stuff. Thanks, man. Awesome. Thanks, Colin. Albert Breer. I just got another text on the Brady situation. I'll have that coming up. of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

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So I'm not going to allow them to get conveniently dumb. Deflategate. We've got no idea what happened. No. Come on. And people that always seem a step ahead in life, similarly to being smart, always have a plan. It's in their DNA. It's their nature.

New England this morning isn't shocked. Tom Brady's leaving. New England always has a plan. Now, I think for the next year, Tom Brady wins the divorce. But if I said to you, what is the smartest NBA franchise over the last five years? Golden State. When Kevin Durant left, they were not shocked. They had a plan.

What are the Warriors doing this year? Tanking. The Dynasty is going to get the number one pick in the draft. Van Nuoy, let him go. Jamie Collins, let him go. Brady, let him go. Succession plan, don't have one. Just read a story.

They were never interested in Teddy Bridgewater. Next year, they built up so much equity, just like the Warriors. New England goes 0 and 16. What, you think the state? stadiums empty. They're still selling tickets in San Francisco. When you succeed like the Warriors did, when you succeed like New England has, you build up so much equity with your fan base. I remember after Jordan left the Bulls, they sold the place out for like four years, and they were terrible because you've built up so much equity. It becomes

part of people's lives. Foxborough Sunday, Tuesday night, Friday night, going to a Warriors game for five or six years. It becomes part of your life. You don't think New England's got a plan? You think New England's just caught off guard. You think the Warriors were just shocked by Kevin Durant. No, they weren't. They thought about it. They had

multiple meetings. Kevin Durant leaves. You know, it would be nice to, you know, we built up a lot of equity. Now, I don't think they planned Steph Curry getting hurt, but the minute he got hurt, what did they do? Out year! Very early

were like Clay Thompson could be back by Earl. Oh, probably won't play. Very interesting, isn't it? So just to remind you of what happened about five minutes ago, well, actually it happened about 25 minutes ago, I got a text. Generally, if I get a text from somebody, I text somebody else. If they double source it, I go with it. I got a text and on football text for a football story that Brady's made a decision and it's

Tampa Bay. Albert Breer came on the show 10 minutes ago. I asked him, based on what I'm hearing, does he think it's possible? Albert Breer said, if I had to guess today, I would guess Tampa. Ian Rappaport has also reported, very trustable. We've had him on the show before. Tampa's made an offer for $30 million. That's what I'm hearing.

I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've never used an out-of-sport source. I do not believe that Tom Brady's family would move to Tampa. I think it's a short flight. And because Miami is probably the most international city in the United States, you could certainly buy property on the beach in Miami, and that's where the family would hang out. They would be, Tom would buy a place in Miami. He's got a place in New York. So it's either a two-hour, 10-minute flight, if it's that, Tampa to New York, two hour 15 or it's a

two hour drive or whatever it is Tampa to Miami. What is it? A three hour drive. This is quite a day. Jason Whitlock around the corner. For the record, you know what I saw last night? The Miami Dolphins, you talk about stealing a page from Belichick and the Patriots?

If you're in Miami today, you have to be excited. They are literally move by move, copying Belichick 20 years ago. Hour two. Next. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day,

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Hour two, we are live in Los Angeles. Wet, cold, Los Angeles most of this week. This is The Hurt. Wherever you may be in, however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, XM Series Channel 83, and putting stuff all over my Twitter accounts. Just told Tom Brady and Tampa Bay talked Monday afternoon.

The GM of the Buccaneers says no deal in place. That doesn't mean Tom Brady has not made a decision. For the record, what am I rooting for Dallas? Because I am in the business of tire fires. I've said before I don't root for, do you think I root for teams? You think I root for players.

I root for drama. Drama means good ratings. I hit my bonuses. I root for tire fires. Secondly, I know guys with the chargers. They let me in their draft room. I'd love to see them with the chargers. I'd love for Tom to have a little condo

right next to me in Manhattan Beach. That'd be great. But, you know, I've made a lot of these life-changing decisions, and it's with Brady, who's very much family, I'm going to tell you my guess is he could put his family in Miami, international, Giselle, you know, international wife, place in New York, place in Miami would make sense to me. For the record, I just want to say this, Miami had a very good day yesterday, the dolphins. They got a lot of cap space and a lot of draft capital. If you live in Miami right now, you have to be excited about Brian Flores, who used to be a patriot under Belichick.

What did they go spend money on yesterday in Miami? Cornerbacks. What's the one position Belichick will spend money on? Cornerbacks. I mean, listen, Brian Flores had a mentor. Mentors Belichick. You follow the mentor in your first job. So what's the first thing last year?

Brian Flores did. Accumulate draft picks. Oh, how Belichekian. I mean, just think about this. So the first thing Flores does, accumulate draft picks. Very Belichekian. Second thing, finally has some money to spend. He spends it on corners.

They now have the most expensive cornerback tandem in the NFL. Third thing he does. Got a veteran quarterback, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and we'll draft one. Belichick, had Drew Bledso, drafted Brady. I mean, the first three things Brian Flores has done are very New England. Last year, what did he keep saying? It sounded very New England. Everyday counts.

Nobody's job is safe. Got to create a competitive culture. It feels so New England to me. So Byron Jones of the Cowboys signs with Miami. That is Bill Belichick gets draft picks when he takes over New England, has a veteran quarterback to teach a young guy. drafts a young quarterback and they spend money on corners they've never been shy about that i was just told jason whitlock is joining me speak for yourself is off this week so uh you're a busy guy you're not listening

to me uh i was told 35 minutes ago jason you want to hear what i was told um tom brady signs tomorrow with tampa bay wow wow he has made a decision he talked to Tampa Bay yesterday. He was willing to re-sign with New England, but he watched Stefan Diggs and DeAndre Hopkins go to franchises and he then called Robert Kraft. An hour and a half later talks to Robert Kraft and says, I'm out. Robert Kraft acknowledged that. Robert Kraft this morning acknowledged.

Tom called me last night and came over. I don't think it's a coincidence. It was after Stefan Diggs had signed in division. And he also yesterday, you know, you could do this, talk to Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay says we don't have a deal. I am told Tampa is the choice and he will sign tomorrow. Wow. Now, that's an amazing story.

Now, it is not a football source, Jason. I said this. It is not a football source. It is a source of wealth and celebrity connected to sports that knows Tom. So, you know, if I have a basketball scoop, Jason, I use basketball people. Okay, but you know, Jason, tell me, you're a reporter. Yep. Have you ever used a non-sport source to break a story?

I'd have to think about it, but probably, yes. Look, would Matt Damon or Ben Affleck maybe know better than other people? Maybe, who knows where this story could break from? But, yeah, I don't discount it. I think that, you know, Tampa, Bruce Arians, all the weapons they have, I kind of liked their defensive personnel last year. I mean, it seems crazy that Brady would go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but look, man, I was in Kansas City, and it seemed crazy that Joe Montana would leave San Francisco

for Middle America in Kansas City. Hey, Brett Farr went to the Jets. Yeah. Johnny Unitist goes to the Chargers. where people go, I mean, Michael Jordan went to the Wizards. I think it's a testament to,

you know, even at 42, Tom Brady has supreme confidence in himself. And, you know, for those people, and I was kind of skeptical of the people that felt like

that Brady kind of had a chip on his shoulder and wanted to prove he could do it without Belichick. You know, I think those people are right. I think, you know, and again, Tampa's got good personnel. They got a coach who's, you know, had success in this league and particularly offensive success.

So it's only because, you know, the Tampa brand because of the way the franchise started is a bad. But this decision actually, I think, makes a lot of sense. Also, Albert Breer came on last hour and said it's a two-hour flight to New York. And also, I was texted something about 10 minutes ago. Somebody said, don't forget, Giselle's done business in Miami, which is a, you know, a short car ride or flight from Tampa. So Tom perhaps has a production company in California. It doesn't mean he wants to live six-hour flight away from his family.

He's very much a family guy. So what was your initial reaction to Tom leaving? Jason Whitlock joining us. Well, my initial reaction was just excitement because I think it's going to be a great story next year, how much success he has, how much success Belichick and the Patriots have. I just think it's great for us that talk about sports every day. there was that excitement. I love the classy, respectful way he exited.

And, you know, I'm going to be rooting for Brady more than I am Belichick. I want Brady to have success. I want him to prove that he was more than a system quarterback in Bill Belichick. Having said that, I love the Belichick system, the Patriot Way. No one is bigger than the team. And for people that thought, oh, Bill Belichick, Belichick wouldn't let Tom Brady go the same way, Tylaw, Richard Seymour, any of the other Patriot guys.

It just proves Belichick, the Patriots Way, football, you know, no one is above, no one's bigger than the system, no one's bigger than the franchise. I love it. I'll throw something else at you. My rule in life is smart people don't get conveniently dumb. New England's smart. They have a plan for everything.

Forget just games. They've got a plan for everything. do like the Warriors. We've built a lot of equity with our fan base. We don't have a plan because we want to go one in 16 or one in 15. And it's two all-time quarterback talents coming out of college. They'll probably be a third really good quarterback. And they're officially, now Carolina is no longer tanking.

They have Teddy Bridgewater. I mean, if you look around the league, Jacksonville and New England, if New England doesn't have a quarterback. New England doesn't have the weapons, Jason, to score. They just don't have the weapons. am I crazy to think, you know what, do a Golden State. Kevin Durant leaves the minute Steph gets hurt, shut him down for the season, get into the lottery.

New England has a plan. We've heard, I don't believe that Andy Dalton's the plan. Go with Jared Stedham. You've built up equity. Is that crazy? I just don't see Bill Belichick not going into a season thinking about, or going into a season not thinking about winning. and winning the ultimate thing. And I don't know if he's built for the kind of rebuilder talking about

and going two and 14 or three and 13 or even five and 11. I think that would be very tough for Bill Belichick at this point. I think they have a plan, but, you know, I think Belichick believes in his system and believes in his ability to find a quarterback, even if it's at the end of the first round or second round, I think he feels like he can find another quarterback. And hell, he may believe, give me Andy Dalton, and I'll get a piece or two, some personnel,

and we'll make it work. Jason Whitlock joining us, one of the things that you and I have in common, and I noticed this when we were doing speak, for yourself, which, by the way, has had an incredible six-month run in ratings with you and Marcellus that you and I always had in common. You and I rarely root for the athlete to get rich, although we're happy if he does. We generally are okay rooting for the company to stay nimble.

Like, I have no problem if Dak doesn't get paid. It doesn't bother me. I think he's average. Like you said, you like. And I've always liked this about New England. Nobody's bigger than the team. In a world, Jason, where everybody feels they're bigger than the team, and I see a lot of young media out there,

and they are just, they're not even covering. They're rooting for their athletes to get rich. I'm always rooting for the team to stay nimble. You know, if a guy's great, like Mahomes, you pay them. Of course, Russell Wilson, pay them. But it is interesting. most media root for the athlete to break the bank. I think you and I are different that way.

Maybe it's generational. I root for systems all the time. Well, I think this NFL system is making everybody rich. Now, there's degrees, and there are guys, like you said, Patrick Mahomes, paying whatever he wants. But when you're Dak Prescott, and it's crystal clear that the system and the personnel around you is all necessary for you to have success, why break the bank for that guy? Well, why, you know, why, why overpay, why make the same mistake of the Rams made with Jared Gough that, you know, to a lesser degree Jacksonville made with Nick Foles?

Why overpay for a guy who's not really driving the car and driving the engine? And so I'm not remotely against Dak Prescott, but I am. If Jerry Jones wants to have some economic discipline and try to explain to that, they just had Amari Cooper turn down more money elsewhere to stay with Dallas. And I think that's being put out there as kind of a message to Dak, hey, man, you know, you and your agent, because I think this is more about Todd France. And I don't want to beat up Todd France. He's doing his job.

He's doing what any agent would do. But I think this is about him being able to recruit more potential clients that if he doesn't sign back to a record deal, that it's going to be used against him in the recruitment of other quarterbacks. And I just don't blame Jerry Jones for not bending. By the way, Amari Cooper is now the second highest paid receiver in the league. Zeke is the highest paid running back. DeMarcus Lawrence, the highest paid, albeit barely defensive end.

the offensive line is the second highest paid. The Cowboys, to me, Jason, are chasing the L.A. Rams model, which is seven rock star contracts, no depth. And the Rams this morning would pay somebody to get rid of Todd Gurley and Brandon Cooks. And when I look at what the, it's a vanity way to build a football franchise. And Tyron Smith now can't play 16 games. Where's a leg brace on his arm. Byron Jones has gone, so their defense got worse.

It's not a great cornerback draft. They lost their slot receiver Randall Cobb, who had 7,800 yards last year. I look at Dallas right now, and I got to be honest, I like Jerry Jones. It feels like they're chasing the L.A. Rams model, and don't get me wrong, Rams got to a Super Bowl, but are perilously thin, and I saw a story last night, they're begging people. They want out of the Gurley and the Brandon Cook's contracts. What do you make of everybody except Dak getting good? these monster contracts?

It's interesting what you bring up. I think that it speaks to, look, Tyron Smith at one point was the best left tackle on football. Oh, yeah. He's no longer that. Zeke Ellie, you could argue best running back on football. You know, DeMarcus Lawrence, really top five defensive end. I just don't think Dak has ever been a top.

top 10 quarterback. So why would anybody pay him like he's the top five or the best quarterback? Oh, he's deserved it. Whitlock. He's, you know, that's what everybody's. And I always say it's not a deserved league.

It's how good are you today? What can I pay you today, league? Well, for me, with Dak, it's like he has the most value with the Cowboys. I don't think, if Dak hit the open market,

I don't think he would get a deal over $32 million a year. I just don't. And so I, I think someone would step out there off him 28, 29, maybe 30. But the money he's asking for, 35, 36, nobody's giving him that. And Dallas, and the people that are acting like Dallas owes him that are crazy, in my opinion. Boy, this is. It's been a great day of football news, man.

It's just incredible. By the way, I'm not a Cam fan. I've been, I've had it source for years that he's a lot of maintenance in the building. Carolina has, has hidden a lot of that. You know, Ron Rivera is an old pro. He doesn't let much distract him. Cam is tough. He plays through injuries.

But this morning, Teddy Bridgewater's a Carolina Panther. I love Teddy. I think he's the opposite of Cam. Low maintenance, very few poor decisions, but a very limited athlete. What do you make a Bridgewater to Carolina? not I do we know the details on what he got paid yet three years 60 million um still working on it but it's love that move yeah that's not they didn't really really break the bank so i think that's a great move and look cam newton is i think he's a terrific competitor

and a terrific athlete and had the potential to be an all-time great quarterback. His competitive deal, though, doesn't extend to the details of playing quarterback in that position. And so even though I'm calling him a great competitor, great competitors eventually figure out that the details really, really matter. And Cam may have figured that out too late now that his body's starting to break down, and so it won't matter. but but I would take if I'm the Chargers

I might take a swing at Cam Newton because again Cam Newton at his best at Auburn the whole world was against him the whole college football media was taking a dump on the guy and he took on that challenge

and played one of the greatest seasons we've ever seen a college quarterback play he's going to be backed up against the wall again next year I don't know if maybe or next season. I don't know if maybe he's made too much money and it doesn't matter to him anymore. But I like Cam backed up against the wall. I liked him being humbled by Carolina basically saying, hey, man, figure out a way to get out of here.

We're good. We're going to sign Teddy Bridgewater. I love all of that. And so I like him in this position. Back against the wall, people doubting him. This is when you have a chance to see the best Cam, but it may be too late. his body may not support what his mind may want to do. This stuff is so fascinating to me.

You know, it's, we both love football. Jason Whitlock's joining us at Whitlock, Jason. You know, we're both NBA. I think we're football guys first, but we love the NBA. I said last week, I think it was Thursday, I came on the air and I said, I don't know anything about the coronavirus, but I've talked with two CEOs, one in New York and one in Seattle, I bumped into skiing. And both said the same thing.

This is not a three-week story. This is a spring deep into the summer story. If that is the case where social distancing is going to be a four or five-month deal, Jason, you're going to have to cancel the NBA season. And LeBron's just going to throw this season away, which just, boy, how many great years does he have left? What do you put the odds? What would you make if the NBA canceled this year? We've had some great stories.

And this year doesn't even exist for LeBron. Listen, I'm known as a LeBron critic. I'm really not. I just go wherever his actions take me. So I'm known as a critic. This would be a tragedy if he's denied an opportunity to get a fourth championship this season. What he did this season to me was phenomenal. And I think if the season ends, I think he's going to be the MVP.

Should be. And that'll be a hell of a reward. Oh, God, yes. Oh, God, yes. Hell of a reward. But he needed that championship, I think. And look, maybe he can claim a mythical. So we can go back to the old college football state.

He can claim a mythical NBA championship. Well, he would have won it. The last time we saw him, they destroyed the L.A. clippers and blah, blah, blah. But I think it's a tragedy that we're denied because this could have been LeBron's. sticking the landing in his 17th season, winning the championship, winning the MVP. And don't you think Kyle Hurd, he's going to be the MVP? Oh, I think he, I think that weekend against Milwaukee and the Clippers cemented it. You know, I come down to this.

We always want it. Who's the next Tiger Woods? God, if I had to hear another Rory McElroy story, I'm over it. There is no other Tiger Woods. There is no other Ali. There is no other LeBron James. Okay, Yonnas can't shoot. he is good but can be marginalized.

Listen, it's even today 17th year. LeBron's a better passer. LeBron's a better ball handler. LeBron's a better shooter. And this team, Milwaukee, had a winning record when Yonis didn't play. When LeBron left the floor for this Laker team, Anthony Davis's plus minus was minus. They were a losing team when LeBron went to the bench.

That's with Anthony Davis. I think he's been MVP, but I think Jason, you and I complain about this. The story is better if it's the new story than the old story. And writers like new stories. Well, I think LeBron's been the story of the NBA this year, even starting with the terrible note he got off to on China to just seeing this Lakers team exceed expectations,

and then us starting to recognize like, damn, LeBron is exceeding expectations. and that's really hard for him to do because our expectations are really high. And then to see him just skyrocketed and become the MVP of this league and to have people like me who thought there's just no way they can beat the clippers with all that depth. And I still kind of believe that. But I'll say, let's say the NBA started in late May and said, you know, we're going to have a playoffs.

We're going to take the top four teams from each conference or the top two teams, just had some sort of playoff. I still am not there that the Lakers would beat the Clippers in a series, but I would lean that direction, I guess, because all that load management that Kauai did would be rendered irrelevant. Everybody would be fresh for the playoff. LeBron would be as fresh as anybody. And so it kind of makes me think if they did somehow have some sort of playoff series in May or June,

the Lakers and LeBron, if I had to bet, I'd probably bet on LeBron. Jason Whitlock, we may bring you on again this week. I just absolutely love this. Loved it. Appreciate it anytime. Jason Whitlock. More on Tom Brady around the corner. Charlie Weisle join us this hour too.

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There's 80 across America. You know, it's just crazy what's happening today. I mean, Peyton Manning, there was a contingency plan, Andrew Luck. Joe Montana, Steve Young. Brett Farr, Aaron Rogers. With New England? None? I don't know.

I think they got a plan in New England. I say this. Brady's the most committed professional athlete of all time. And don't tell me Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was smoking cigars, drinking wine, and playing golf. Tom won't have a beer in season. He eats vegetable ice cream. Okay, Michael Jordan had a steakhouse. Tom Brady has pajamas that make you sleep better.

Brady's the most committed athlete of my life. And ask anybody who owns a business or runs one, you're always seeking employees who are totally committed. There are a lot of talented people out there, a lot of smart people out there. But are they committed to your business? Tom's the most committed athlete of all time. New England, I'm supposed to believe,

has no contingency plan. It's called tanking. Veteran newsman John Goulet. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the her. line news. Okay, Colin, one veteran quarterback who is not leaving is Drew Breeze.

He has signed a two-year, $50 million deal to remain with the Saints. The deal is basically the same deal as he previously had, although in a way it's a better deal for the Saints because the price of quarterbacks keeps going up and Breezes does not. He has repeatedly said he's not going to play for another team. It'll be the Saints or retirement. You are saying where Tom Brady is going. I'm telling you what my non-football source is saying. Your source is saying he's going to Tampa.

That's the same division as the Saints. That would give us two Breeze Brady matchups a year. That's a lot of fun, no? Well, yeah, I mean, it's... That's the one team, right? The option for Brady that we kind of look at as the Chargers, but man, that puts him in a division with Patrick Mahomes. That might be tough.

To see a Brady Breeze game twice a year, and that to be really his only competition in 8. aging Drew Brees. That's probably one of the selling points for Brady ongoing to Tampa, is that that's the only team you have to get through is the Saints to get to win the division. Listen, Dallas is my favorite choice. Mine too. Chargers, I think, is the best choice.

They're near your house. Why not? But Tampa is where I'm being told he's going. So let me make it clear. Dallas is what I'm rooting for. The Chargers, I think, is the best fit. And Tampa is where I'm told he's going. So that's, that's, that you got every.

I believe in one sentence. Speaking of the Cowboys, their former cornerback Byron Jones is now the highest paid corner in the NFL. Jones signed a five-year, $82.5 million deal with the Miami Dolphins. Leaving the Cowboys was expected. They didn't have the money to match anywhere near

that kind of offer after franchising DAC and giving Amari Cooper $100 million. Byron Jones is a very good corner. The one knock on him is he doesn't really take the ball away. He has two career interceptions in five years. Yeah, I mean, there's not. He keeps the ball away from the receiver. But he's not a playmaker. Not necessarily.

Yeah, he's not like Ed Reed was at safety. He's not Dorel Revis. He's not going to end a year with six pick. It's just not how he plays. He's going to end with a ton of deflections and you're going to have a very low completion percentage throwing against him. Yeah. The dolphins now basically have two the highest paid corners in the league. As you mentioned before, they're clearly going with, we're going to shut down the receivers.

And we'll figure out the rest later. But that's where they're clearly starting. This is the problem with the Cowboys. giving away all this kind of money. They've now lost their best secondary player in Byron Jones. And Robert Quinn, who they got for nothing and had for one year, he signed a big deal with the Bears. So a bad defense just lost their leading sack guy and their best secondary player.

That's not great. And finally, the Indianapolis Colts have acquired defensive tackle DeForest Buckner from the 49ers. This happened yesterday. They gave the Niners the 13th overall pick in this year's draft. Buckner has already agreed to a new deal with the Colts. that makes him the second highest paid defensive tackle behind only Aaron Donald. It's going to make $21 million a year.

This trade made a lot of sense for both teams. The 49ers were low on top draft picks, right? They have their first rounder. They had nothing after that for a couple rounds. This gives them two first rounders, the ability to trade back. And they have a ton of defensive line talent. They'll be fine. The Colts, this also tells you what they're planning to do at quarterback.

They're going to go Phillip Rivers. Because if you're trading away that 13th pick that says you're not going to draft a quarterback and make him your starter. So what do you think about the trade? And what do you think about them pretty much? This has to guarantee. They must know that Philip Rivers is going to be a cult, right? Yeah, I think that Tom was not going to,

I don't think Indy was a perfect fit for Tom. They have weapons issues as well. It's T.Y. Hilton and Cross Your fingers. Eric Ebron left and their backs are good but not special. Right. You know, I love their old line and their GM and their coach. But forget the Peyton Manning thing. The Chargers and the Buccaneers,

and the cowboys have the weapons. Yeah. But Dallas isn't going to happen now because there's just no money. But if you're just talking where Tom can go in warm weather and throw to a bunch of really talented people, it's the Chargers one and the bucks too. Yeah. That's the news.

Veteran Newsman, John Goulet. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. I am texting some very funny people right now. Hold on one second, folks. I have to. All right.

Hold on real quick. All right. Sorry. I apologize for that. Listen, when you are America's media icon, you'll get a lot of texts. Charlie Weiss. Buddy at Tommy Brady next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

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So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good to have you in. Charlie Weiss, a former Patriot assistant coach, offensive coordinator, a lot of rings. You know them at Notre Dame as well. I listen to him in the morning, opening drive with Bob Papa. And I haven't talked. I, Charlie and I text occasionally, but Charlie is joining us this morning. Well, Charlie, your first reaction to Tom leaving New England. What was the first 60-second emotional reaction for you?

Well, actually, I can't say I was shocked. Okay, but I know the first thing I said was when I saw it, I said I'm a little stunned because it was like that it's kind of like even when you know that this might happen, getting that first slap in the face. It was like, it was like, wow, like a slap in the face of reality that this had actually happened. You know, but, you know, for about the last month, you know, I've been, I've been saying that, although I hope he goes back to New England, I'd like for him to go back to New England. The closer and further and further along you're getting,

you know, the less the possibility was that that was going to happen. And the two people that were looking for dance partners, I really thought we're Tampa and the Chargers. And here we are. It looks like they're the two looking for dance partners. Well, I was told an hour ago I got a text from what I would call an iconic source, Brady's going to Tampa. their weapons i could i could definitely see that i could definitely i could definitely i could definitely

see that and when i first brought up tampa a month ago i got laughed at by a lot of people and then i went on and gave the reasons why i mean they're loaded with off it they're loaded with offence skill people okay they they have a head coach that is versatile enough to adapt to a veteran quarterback and kind of let them integrate you know be part of the of the integration of the offense. Okay, he's not in the AFC. I wasn't too fired up about him being in the AFC West going to the Chargers and going against Mahomes.

Yeah. You know, the reason why I thought the Chargers would go hard after him is because I think that the Chargers really needed him to sell seats. Oh, they do. That's indisputable. Dean Spanos wants him. I don't know if everybody else in the Chargers organization does. Spanos does.

Well, but that's the reason why I thought that they would get them. Yeah. You know, they also have weapons. Yeah. You know, they do have weapons. And, you know, but, you know, you got to go against Mahomes twice a year. I mean, Kansas City is the prohibitive favorite. But just last year at this time, at this very time, the team's sitting 12 and 4 and

everyone's looking at looking at them as one of the best teams in football. Now, granted, it fell apart, but that's why I thought the charges were a viable alternative, but I thought that, you know, if I were Tommy, I'd get out of the AMC, I'd go, if I were leaving, I'd get to the NFC and go somewhere where they get a bunch of offensive weapons that you might be able to do some serious damage with. Gary Myers wrote a book called Brady v. Manning, and Tom Sr. had told Gary Myers that Belichick didn't have a personal relationship because Bill tried to stay emotionally distant knowing one day he'd have to tell Tom to move on. So Bill knew this day was coming. You know, I've said before,

I wish Bill would put his arm around him occasionally. But, you know, you've been a head coach. I mean, did Bill kind of, in your opinion, stay a little bit away emotionally because of today? Well, people would see, you know, players all saw the personal side of Bill. But Bill is probably more matter of fact business than just about any coach I've seen. You know, and, you know, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's the bester, bester, I've ever seen. You know, there might have been a coach better than him, you know, before I was born, but in my, I mean, as good as I've seen.

And part of that is the fact that he can separate church and state and business is business and personal is personal. You're right. You know, I'm more emotional, Colin. I mean, I'm, you know, in that case, and that could be a detriment in that case. But I think Tom Sr. is not that wrong in the fact that although they'll always be on friendly terms, it'll never be buddy, buddy. How much does Tom have left? I mean, you give him Mike Evans.

That's a great player. I mean, how much does Tom have left, in your opinion? If he can stand in the pocket, if he can stand in the pocket, if he can stand in the, the pocket and throw the ball down the field, he could play for a couple years. I mean, I mean, because he's never been an, he's never been that athletic. You and I both know that. That's not his deal. Okay, he's as good as I've ever seen it moving within the pocket.

He learned that from watching Dan Marino, Dan Marino. When he was young, we used to watch Dan Marino tapes all the time about his movement in the pocket. Cool. And then work on drills. in the pocket. Tommy still can move in the pocket. The issue is more moving from the pocket, but that's not his deal. And no one in the league can re-coverages any faster and go through progressions any better and still be able to throw accurate passes. Yeah. Charlie Weiss is joining me. The, God, you look at Tom's career. Do you talk to Tom at all anymore? I mean,

listen, he's so, yeah. Yeah. We're in technology age, Colin. It's, It's all text, as you know. You know, we text often. Do you know? As a matter of fact, last week, you got me in trouble. You know, we're in a text conversation. And I say to him, I said, well, my man, everyone knows what you're doing. He goes, no one knows anything.

And he didn't use the word anything. Okay, so just okay. Okay. He goes, no one knows anything. I said, well, I mean, I'm watching him. I'm watching him. He goes, well, then clean it up. He goes, why don't you go and clean that up?

So that morning I went on the air and said, look, for all you people who are listening to all the experts say they know, well, they don't know. Because the hurt horse's mouth has informed me that no one knows anything. Yeah. So, you know, I really don't believe that as recently as yesterday, he knew for sure what he was doing. Oh, that's, you know, Charlie, I said it this morning. He wanted to see if they could make a deal for a Stefan Diggs or a D'Andre Hopkins.

And I believe this morning, if Stefan Diggs signs with New England, Edelman's a two, sinews a three, Nikiel Harry's a four, I think he could stay. I've left the job four times. You wait for signs. You don't know. I mean, it's too good there to just. no two months ago. I think Tom waited for signs and when a lot of

the weapons left the market, he said, I don't want to do last year over again. Yeah, I think they need a number one live receiver and a front line tight end. That's what the now I think that that's the one thing that's still missing because that's security. When, you know, I think that

Grancowski not being there last year was such a big blow that, you know, that people it's understated to how big a loss it was. Grandkowski not being his other security blanket. All the left him was with was Welker. He didn't have another guy that could be his go-to guy. So, I mean, you're right.

I think that if DeAndre Hopkins, I mean, it looked to me like all he had to do is throwing a ham sandwich and you could have gotten him. Yeah. I mean, that was highway robbery right there. I mean, so, I mean, so he's a guy that was very getable. But I think if they could have gotten a front line, receiver and the tight end. Maybe it's been different, but we don't know that because we don't know the terms.

We don't know, we don't know the ramifications why, you know, why he decided to go. I mean, so it'll eventually, it'll all come out eventually, but I don't think it'll be anytime soon. Charlie Weiss, great talking to you again. Love hearing your voice. I miss you, my man. Good talking, Charlie. Take care.

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What a day. What a day. So we've had Albert Breer. I told him what I heard about Tampa. He did not disagree. Charlie Weiss said just now, he mentioned Tampa three weeks ago and people laughed at him. Go look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive deficit. chart online. It's silly.

I mean, they got two star receivers tied end out of Alabama. I loved, who was the number one tied into the country in high school and college. They've got backs. And they got, how many draft picks? They got a bunch of, you know, Bruce Ariens knows offensive personnel. They're not done building.

O-line's okay. They still have Todd Bulls running their defense. I like Todd Bulls. I like Todd Bulls. And that division's winnable. Breeze is old. Carolina's got Teddy Bridgewater. Atlanta's got, you know, Matt Ryan's winnable division, warm weather division. We keep hearing warm weather matters.

Chargers, Tampa, it feels like those are the two. I'm being told Tampa. Mark Dominic, former Tampa Bay Buccaneer GM, still has ties there. Joining us, live hour three. Next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Number three live in Los Angeles. This is the herd.

Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Boas said guys are great at pickup lines, but they're lousy at breaking up. Guys are great at building their careers, but they don't know how to retire elegantly. Guys get us into wars. They can never get us out of wars. You know, we are great at getting into stuff. We're not great at getting out of stuff. Tom Brady is leaving the New England Patriots.

It's not going to be perfect. Multiple sources saying, Chargers, bucks are the leaders. I'm being told Colts leaning to Philip Rivers. Carolina's already inked the deal with Teddy Bridgewater, Drew Breeze going back to the Saints. There's just not that many openings. Marioita gets picked up by, was it the Raiders?

There's not many teams that need a quarterback. Tampa has moved off James Winston reportedly. They're looking for one with weapons. The Chargers don't have a starting quarterback. They got a bunch of weapons. There you go. I'm told it's Tampa. From the very beginning, what I was truly rooting for

retirement. I mean, the four retirements that were perfect, Elway, Jeter, Kobe, and Brady would be perfect. I don't want him like Johnny Unitas, and I don't want him limping around. I don't want to see a Brett Farve to the Jets. I don't want to see that stuff. I'm not interested. Tom Brady has had two decisions to make, the first one he's made. I'm not staying in New England. The second decision is, where do I go? I retire it would make me very happy. You could just wrap an absolute bow in it. I mean, it would just be 77% of games he played he won, 17 division titles,

four Super Bowl MVP's, nine appearances, six Super Bowl wins, 20 years. Thanks for flying United. It would be perfect. Just, it would be Jeter, be Kobe, B. Lway. Well, he threw a pick six in his last throw. Winners don't care about that. You think Michael Jordan remembers his last jumper? That's a loser's paradise.

You're not, nobody's defining Tom Brady's career off a pick six against Tennessee. It is interesting. I was reading yesterday, the Patriots don't have a ton of cap space. They had like 32 million. Well, Devin McCordy counts as 10. Joe Thuny got 15. Matt Slater got three. Adam Butler is 3.26.

That wasn't a lot left for Brady. They don't have any weapons now that Brady's gone. AFC East is getting better. They just, I mean, let's be honest about it. New England doesn't have much offense. So I don't buy into this. They think they can beat Baltimore. Baltimore's better today.

If you look at just personnel in the AFC, Baltimore's way better. Kansas City's way better. Houston's better. Cleveland's better. Pittsburgh's better. I don't, you know, by the way, I've seen Bill Belichick without Tom Brady, 36 and 44 in Cleveland, and 5 and 13 in New England. I've seen, well, Matt Castle won 11 games.

They were 16 and 0 the year before and a favorite in the Super Bowl. Tom left for a year, couldn't make the playoffs, did not win the division, didn't make the playoffs and had were blown out and nothing against Matt Castle but whenever I hear well he won 11 games when you have the best team arguably of all time one year

the following year you don't make the playoffs remember a lot of those 11 wins came against the crappy AFC East you're going to win a matter of games just on Belichick's coaching so it's an athletic quarterback driven league and a weapons league and we see it all the time the NBA used to be

a big man league then it's a wing league. Now it's a shooter's league. It doesn't matter if you're a center. It doesn't matter if you're Luca. It doesn't matter if you're Steph Curry. It's a shooter's league. The NFL used to be a running back league. It's a coach's league. Now it is an athletic quarterback and a weapons

league. You saw the money being handed out yesterday. You saw the people. This is a great wide receiver draft and yet Buffalo's very smart front office. Look at what they gave up for Stefan Diggs, who's often hurt. I mean, it is a It is a quarterback that can move and a weapons lead.

You know, it used to be in baseball. I've argued Dave Kingman. I grew up with Dave Kingman. He played, it was like the New York Mets. Kingman was a home runner, a strikeout. He'd be so incredibly valuable today. Dave Kingman was mocked because he struck out too much, left too many men on base. Today, nobody cares.

They just don't want you to hit ground balls. Dave Kingman today would be getting $300 million. He was considered odd, a liability, sort of a one-dimensional player. Dave Kingman today is a rock star. So sports change. Sports change. A very, you know, boxing may not change. Mono-emano, two guys in the ring, but almost everything changes.

Team sports all change. Baseball now, home run, strikeouts. Nobody wants ground balls. Bullpen as valuable as starters. Defensive shifts. NBA just got to be able to shoot. Can't have two guys on the floor who can't shoot. Doesn't matter how good they are.

You can't have two of them. Clint Capella, good player. Houston, out. NFL, weapons league. Why? Because you can't touch anybody. You can't touch the quarterback. You can't hit the wide receiver.

And non-catches in the last year, legislation has changed. Non-catches are now catches. And you can't touch anybody at the line. You can't jam them. That great Ray Lewis, Baltimore Raven defense 20 years ago wouldn't exist today. It would be all penalty flags. You'd spread it out and force Ray Lewis to cover people in space, which was never a strain.

It wouldn't be nearly the defense. So you're seeing what's happening. New England's got no weapons. And Brady's like, I don't want to be part of it. You know, Albert Breer came on earlier today. And I told him, I said, Albert, a non-football source, a celebrity source, way up the food chain, texted me this morning. and said it's going to be Tampa and it's going to be tomorrow.

And Albert Breer, I asked him. I said, okay, you know, I've had sources be wrong before. And I'm not a, I'm not feet on the ground like all these other reporters. But my source is way up the food chain. And I said, Albert, he says Tampa. Here was Albert's response. It makes sense. And I think there are a couple reasons why.

Number one, one of his greatest frustrations in New England last year was what was around him. And that wouldn't be a problem in Tampa. The number two thing is flexibility within an offense. Number three, I do think Burraterian's previous experience with older quarterbacks, in particular Carson Palmer, is a selling point there. And number four, and I don't think you can underrate this one, the fact that it's actually a plane ride, the two, three hours from Tampa to New York,

I think will be a factor based on who they were going up against, and that's the Chargers. And so you roll all four of those things into one. on and Tampa does make some sense. I asked Albert, I said, if I said, you know, before I told you this, who were you leaning with? And he was like, yeah, probably Tampa. And I also believe this to be true, because I've moved around the country four times,

is that you're really, it's very hard to leave success. It really is. I mean, I've said it before. It was not easy to leave ESPN. It wasn't. It was, I had made a lot of money, a ton of success, helped build me up. I was a bean. They were Starbucks.

It was great. It was hard to leave, even though, and I kept waiting for signs and signs and signs and signs and signs. And finally I got one in a meeting with a manager who's now gone, nice man, and I was looking for him to say something he didn't. I walked out of that room. Boom, I was waiting for a sign. Nobody wants to leave success. Anybody, man, woman, anybody listening right now that's ever changed jobs, if you were in a good place, you're kind of praying your good place takes care of you. Nobody wants to move with their family. It's hard. We're all creatures of habit.

I mean, Brady's a huge creature of habit. And he was waiting for Stefan Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins weapons. Because we saw him yell last year. He was tired of it. He wanted weapons. I mean, I'm not, that's well documented. I'm not telling you any information you don't know. So I do believe Tom sat around, watched Stefan Diggs go in division and said, I'm done.

Called Robert Kraft, which has been confirmed by Kraft. went over to his house last night. About an hour after that move, two hours after that move, he's at Robert Kraft's house. I don't think it's a coincidence in Albert Breer. He agrees that Tom would have stayed in New England if they made the right move with weapons. Brady would have stayed under certain circumstances.

I can tell you that as fact. If certain things had lined up, I think he would have been very open to it. The other piece of this is, you know, I think, you know, the Patriots did work on that. Like, and they did explore all options. And I can tell you that over the last two weeks, they've been very active in talking to different teams

about receivers, about tight ends. In fact, Campa was one of those. Albert Breers, pretty good source. Agreed with me. Tom would have stayed, got a sign left. This is hard to explain to somebody. If you've, like, had one job or you've stayed in your hometown, a lot of people do. 40% of Americans never leave the area code they grew up.

in. You want to stay close to mom, dad, grandparents, whatever. But if you're one of the 60% that have left and part of the 15% that's left multiple times, you know, it's hard to leave good, easy to leave crappy. You know, I used to work in Tampa. It was crappy TV station. Easiest place I ever left. Harder to leave Portland, well run. Harder to leave ESPN. Had a lot of success. I had great success in Vegas. Great owner recently passed away. Hard to leave places that are, even though I knew my career would benefit, hard. Hard to leave friends, hard to leave good bosses, hard to leave smart people.

Easily crap. So New England, Tom was waiting for signs. He didn't get them. His sign went to Buffalo and he'll catch like 80 catches and 12 touchdowns from Josh Allen. Mark Dominic, friend, former Bucks GM, joining us next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHard Radio app. Spring cleaning that underwear drawer, toss out the ratty stuff, upgrade to Tommy John,

revolutionary men's underwear brand and women's redefining comfort. Tommyjohn.com, code heard H-E-R-D, 20% off. Used to work with Mark Dominic, former GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a city I was in for a few years. He was the Buck's director of scouting for four years. Then he was the GM for a long time, a decade, or more than a decade. And we used to work together. one of the nicest guys I've worked with.

Mark Dominic is now joining us. So, Mark, first of all, it's great to talk to you. From day one, I said I thought the Chargers made a lot of sense, but I thought he would stay in New England because it's hard to leave smart. It's hard to leave successful. It's hard to leave friends and family. I just read a story this morning that Robert Kraft thought last night, Mark, when Tom knocked at his door, he was going to tell him he was staying,

and they sat and cried and it was highly emotional. were you shocked that Tom announced this morning via social media he was leaving? I was a little bit, Colin, because I thought the same thing you did. I really thought in the end, you know, players staying with one organization, one franchise, but the more I started digging into it over the last two weeks, the more you felt a lot of, I would say, a little bit of a disrespect of what he's been able to bring to the franchise versus what they've ever offered him. And I think that's always been something that it hasn't been, hey, look, it's because I need more money,

it's because it just has been a lack of some of the respect that I think Tom sees that he has. And he knows they're going out there in free agency. He would be courted. And so to see it this morning to actually know for the fact that he's leaving and moving on is a surprise to some extent. But I thought the charges were always an interesting mix as well. The only problem I had is going to the charges is the fact that you knew as great as Tom is the goat. You're still at best, the second best quarterback in that division alone. And so to make the postseason, you're going to have to have to.

at least be a wild card, and that's hard enough. So I think that I could see why the NFC would be more appealing. Yeah, and boy, between Baltimore's upgrades and Kansas City and, you know, you worked in Tampa and I lived there. I, you know, when I heard Tampa, my takeaway was, Tom's brand is so damn big. Tampa's, I mean, they're not the Dolphins as a brand. I don't even know.

I just, I never really bought into it. I was texted this morning, and I've said it on the air, from not a football source, a celebrity source, that knows Tom, that he's going to go to Tampa. Now, Mark, Tampa acknowledges their GM. They have talked to Tom or his agent. They've got weapons. It's warm weather.

It's a winnable division. Listen, this is what I'm being told this morning. I never thought it would be Tampa. But when you line it all up, two-hour flight to New York with his kids, Doesn't it make a little sense? No, it makes a lot of sense. I mean, if you can't go to Miami, because, quite frankly, Miami is, sadly, from a talent perspective, not attractive enough, I think, for Tom Brady to go to.

But clearly, there's a division that's the easiest to win, right? You look around, I mean, there's just as a collective quarterback that'll be in the division could be Joe Stittled and Sam Donald and Josh Allen. You know, you're going to have to go to a division that's probably going to have, obviously, it sounds like Teddy Bridgewater could be in Carolina, and we've got Drew Breeze and Matt Ryan, but Tom Brady. And I felt Tampa, because I've, you know, look, I've worked for the bucks for 19 years. I know the owners very, very well. I know Splash means something.

They've been down in the dumps for a long time, sadly. It's been, you know, a decade since we won 10 games back in 2010. And I could see them saying, hey, look, we need something to get energized again, something that's going to change the franchise. And this is where I think James Winston and his representation might have overstepped their bounds a little bit in terms of what their value is. And I think this opens the door for Tampa to say, let's explore why. And this doesn't stop Tampa from drafting a quarterback somewhere in a couple

early rounds, but it also sits there and says maybe in the first time they take Jonathan Taylor, too, out of Wisconsin. And now you sit there going Tom Brady and Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and OJ Howard and Cameron Gray, maybe a Jonathan Taylor running back. Wow. You know, that's a lot of firepower in a quarterback coach or a head coach that likes Holder I mean, I know he's younger quarterbacks, but he's always

appreciated what Carson Palmer did for his career, and Jason Light knows that they need to win. It all lined up to me to make a lot of sense and they have the room to do it, and I think you'd see a uniform change with it. Jason Light, I don't, I said this a couple years ago. I like him as a drafter. He's done very well in

offensive pieces. Tell my audience about Jason Light. What would he do if, If Tom Brady announces tomorrow, which I'm told Tampa tomorrow is the place, what would he then do with his draft? Well, I think you go with offensive tackles, a big thought process going into it right away at the right tackle position. I think the interior line is pretty set in terms of who they have. But I do think the right tackle spot with DeMar Dodson has been there for over

decade. They may be looking to move him. I also think the running backs in play just because they want a featured running back in that system that they haven't been able to find that guy over last, you know, X amount of years. And so I think running back would be in place. So I think you would see early on, I think you're going to see a running back and a tackle come off the board. And then I think it's going to shift all over the defense and trying to, you know, continue to add weapons to the defense decides to get to the quarterback attacking guys to go with Shaq. Verreve's their franchise

tag. So, you know, I would do everything I can to make sure Tom Brady stay upright and healthy. And to me, that's having a good run game and that's obviously a little more protection on the line. The Glazer family's interesting. One of the last. The Glazer family's interesting. of the things I was told very early because I do think the Chargers have always felt like a natural fit, although they are the second. I mean, this town's got so many big brands, Dodgers,

Lakers, now Rams, USC football. Chargers are really, it's a very apathetic city I live in in terms of the Chargers. They're not selling tickets. I was told Dean Spanos was very interested in Brady. He solves a quarterback issue and he sells tickets. He makes them relevant in a city. Everybody's

fighting for the front page of the LA Times. Similarly, the Glazer family. I know them. I like them. I didn't see Mr. Glazer much. I saw the kids a lot. You said they like a splash. Explain that to my audience.

Your experience with them. I think that what they like to do is like they always saw as time went on with me as GM, that if you could sign one big name pre-agent, that's kind of what your fans are looking for. They want at least one thing to sit there. They say, ooh, look at that. They signed this player or that player. or, you know, look who they brought in.

And I think that's, it's not in name recognition that they're looking for. It's talent, but it's also a first-line talent. It's kind of a terrible analogy, Colin, but it's like, if you ever collected baseball cards, right? Right. Let's say you love baseball cards and you're, you know, what it was, 1988, 1999, 1990. You could have five, gritty 1990 upper decks. Those are great cards. They look good.

Or you can have one 89 upper deck rookie. What's going to have more value? And so that's the way they look good. too. As I talked to them, I'm like, we could buy four or five, two million dollars, or you can get a $10,9 player that's going to make an instant impact. The fans are going to get really interested around that. So that's what I mean by an instant impact. And I do think that because the cap room, because of the fit, and I also think because of the simple fact that I can see where Tom would be more intrigued there. And I can also sit there

and say the chargers financially aren't in the same spot as the Glazer family is from a financial standpoint, the team isn't, and also, you know, the charges are just getting there with the six pick going, boy, we could take a young quarterback there instead, where Tampa's not quite in that same position, part of a little bit further back in the draft. So to me, it lines up really good. It's when I kind of started talking about about a week ago, that I thought this is a real possibility to closer got to it, the more I realized that I heard more information coming out New England, that I think he was just ready to move on and go to somewhere else that was, you know, loved him a little bit more from a different perspective. Yeah.

Explain something to me. So the Cowboys have the second highest paid offensive line, the highest paid running back, the second highest paid wide receiver this morning, the highest paid defensive end. Unless they're using a Swiss bank that I'm not aware of, it feels very much like the Rams Vanity model, and they're now begging to get out of the girly contract

and the Brandon Cook's contract. I don't love it. I don't, they are getting, they look perilously top-heavy to me, what do you make of signing everybody into these massive deals and yet DAC has been franchise tag? What does that tell you? It told me that they were trying to play, prove it.

I've got your rights. I've got you at a great value. I can afford to keep all these other players on my football team right now because of it. And therefore, if I keep you at your minimum salary last year, your salary and your fourth year of your con-rokey contract, I still have a franchise tag over here for two more years. I've got complete control over this contract, so what's the rush of me doing it? Because I'm going to be paying market value for all those years.

If it goes and plays out the Kirk Cousins way, and, you know, I'd get six years out of you and you leave, well, then that's the way it's going to be. And I think the one thing with Dallas is as good as the offensive line has been. I think the discipline's hard where you have to realize as much as you like all five. In this day and age, even at a cap that's almost $200 million now, to pay more than three offensive linemen is very difficult, very hard. and Dallas paid a lot over time. And that's come back to haunt them a little bit.

But, you know, I think that they're going to have a good conversation with that Crescott. I think there is a chance that they'll get that contract done, but it won't be until, you know, we get closer in the summer. By the way, how big is the market for Cam Newton today? Not great. It's really not. I think it's the same market as James is looking at. Because when you start to, if Teddy Bridgewater does end up in Carolina,

you start to go, who are the teams that are really looking for a quarterback? that really needed it. I mean, I think the Raiders turned around and took Marcus Mariotto just to make sure that they're number two settled in a musical chair that's not going to end well for a couple players. It's just not because there's just not enough spots out there to sit there and say, I've got to add this quarterback. I don't know where James Winston ends up, you know, just from that simple fact.

I don't know where Cam Newton ends up because you could put them on the trade block. It's hard to find that team that you're going to sit there and say, this is the guy they're going to build around. I don't, you know, everything you look at New England and go, well, And, you know, is that the fit what Bell wants? My gut instinct is no. And so I think there's going to be a couple of quarterbacks that would be sitting there in about a week from now going, wow, this is a weird year. The first time we've ever seen a glut of quarterbacks where a Philip Rivers is trying to figure out if Chicago is really the right place to be the number two because you've got a chance to be a start of a bit of these struggles.

You know, those are the things that I think it would be very interesting to see over the next, you know, obviously 48 to 72 hours. Wow. Do you live down in Tampa now? No, we moved to Nashville, so we live in National now. But you still have a lot of connections in Tampa? Yes, I do. Yeah, lots. Very tight.

Why don't you get on the phone there and start texting him about that thing I heard? You're a little tech that you've kind of gotten a little information on? Yeah, I'm told Brady signs with Tampa tomorrow. That's what I'm told, and it's a non-football source. It's a wealthy celebrity source. You know how it is. Well, call. Here's what I'll do.

I've got your number. Yes. I'll do some digging, and I'll text you a little bit later. That's pretty good. Sounds like a deal? That sounds like a deal. Hope you and your family are great. You too, buddy.

Good talking to you. All right, Mark Dominic. Listen, people say, you don't like Cam Newton. Nobody does, apparently. I mean, tell me where the market is. Carolina said not interested. They know him better than anybody.

They're not interested. You're always worried about what I think. What are the teams think? Carolina's not interested in Cam. He's too much drama. I've been telling you this. for years. Like Jay Cutler, too much drama. James Winston, Baker Mayfield. The leash gets very short. Once that you're wearing people out in a room, when Baker Mayfield ripped the medical staff,

I was told inside that building, even Dorsey was pissed. Like John Dorsey drafted him and Dorsey was furious. Like so when John Dorsey is thinking, I've about had it, what's the new GM thing? They have no loyalty at all to Baker. In fact, they went out and got Case Keenham yesterday. So behind the scenes, Cam's got so much going on in his personal life that's not public. It's just a lot of drama. Veteran newsman, Andy's French, Jean Goulet.

This is the herd line news. So I'll get to Cam in a second because he said something this morning. But first, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, Teddy Bridgewater is working on a three-year $60 million deal with the Carolina Panthers. The anti-CAM. Yes. Deal not done yet, but it seems inevitable. They're just working out some of the details.

Remember, he has a connection with their new offensive coordinator Joe Brady. Brady was with the Saints when Bridgewater was there before he went to LSU and obviously became the greatest offensive line of all time. You are, you love Bridgewater. You are higher on him than most. Yeah, he is. I was higher on Garoppolo than most. I'm higher on Bridgewater.

Unlike Cam, he's talking. totally focused on football. He doesn't throw picks. He is accurate. He's a very good audible at the line of scrimmage. You can give him a highly complex offense and Teddy will get in and out of plays. I've heard he's one of these guys that walks in like Andrew Luck, you know, two weeks later, he's got the playbook down. So you're talking about a guy that's a grown up, he's mature, and he doesn't let, he's not going to take hits. I mean, Teddy's one of these guys knows his limitations, whereas Cam can go big time over the top. Teddy doesn't. Teddy is very much Alex Smith. I don't.

I don't think he's quite as athletic as Alex Smith, but you know what you're getting with him. Sure. And I think I love this. And you're going to get a bargain on it. If you're getting him at $20 million, it's great. And here's the other thing. You can still draft the quarterback. Teddy's a good mentor like Alex Smith.

He's a grown-up. You just, I've been told this for years by people in the building in Carolina. He wore people out. There's a lot of drama. I mean, ask yourself if you're listening to me right now. You ever had a cousin? You ever had a friend that you like? but God, there are a lot of drama.

Cam's got just stuff that wears you out over time. Speaking of Cam drama. Oh, boy. So the Bridgewater news comes out earlier. It kind of makes sense because earlier this morning, it came out that the Panthers and Cam's reps had decided that he could mutually agreed he could seek a trade. Cam, however, was not happy about the way that was portrayed to the media.

He said on Instagram, Stop with the wordplay. I never asked for it. There is no dodging this one. I love the Panthers to death and will always love you guys. Please do not try and play me or manipulate the narrative and act like I wanted this. You force me into this. Love.

Yeah, they're over him. And I will defend Cam on that. They're over him. I don't know if that's defending Cam. Yeah, well, I mean, you're defending the Panthers. Yeah, I mean, they're just, they're there. And by the way, going out and getting Teddy Bridgewater tells you. what drove them crazy about Cam.

They don't want to worry about the quarterback position. You draft Teddy, you're good. Yeah, and it's not just that, though. By seeking Bridgewater, the pendulum is swinging. They're telling you, we want low maintenance, perhaps limited offensively in terms of talent, but somebody that can be dependable and accurate. He is the opposite of Cam.

I love it. After you date the party girl, you want to date the librarian. That's right, because you've got to get some sort. sleep at some point. Now Pro Bowl tight end Greg Olson, remember his departure from the Panthers was not all that smooth. He responded to the comments on Instagram saying sounds

familiar. Listen, this to me just sounds like the Panthers players, the old guard, the Cam and the Greg Olson, they didn't love that they fired Rivera. They know everyone's getting, like this is a team going for a rebuild. So this is going to happen. Players are going to have to leave before they wanted to. It's just part of the deal.

And finally, the Browns continue to make smart and sensible moves to improve their offense. Yesterday we talked about how they signed tight end Austin Hooper. Then later in the day they signed Titans right tackle Jack Conklin do a three year deal. This is what teams

do when they're trying to help a young quarterback. You protect him on the offensive line and you get him a slot receiver or a tight end that can get open quickly and you can throw the ball to him kind of like a safety blanket. How do you like these moves for Baker first of all? Well, I think

you can't hurt. The old line has had to get better. You had to do something. I think they're a better team next year. I didn't like their GM. I didn't like their coach. Baker still wears me out. But I like their personnel. I think in fact, I would make the argument that one of the things I worry about is they have so many weapons now offensively, two good backs, two star receivers, two good tight ends. They may want to pair off one of them and get more O-line help and secondary help. They're also thin at linebacker now. That's what I was going to suggest. If you look at the moves and, you know, Stefanski, when he ran the Vikings offense, very run-centric, right?

As he's running the Browns offense, you go, okay, they're working on the O-line, tight end, they have great running backs. Do you need OBJ, or is that a great piece to trade to solidify the, if they're going to go with a we have a good defense and we're going to run the ball and we're going to play a ball-control offense, what does OBJ bring to it? That's not what he does. He's a deep threat guy. They said they weren't in the market to trade him, but the Texans also said they weren't

trading DeAndre Hopkins, so it doesn't really mean much. Yeah. Veteran newsman, John Goulay. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. All right, hold on. John, I've got a text I have to answer from a reliable source.

If you could while I'm texting, could you offer something for the audience? I wish people could see you today and know how much you've been on the phone during the show. I'm generally not on the phone. You're basically Schefter today, just constantly checking with sources. So when John plays this, that is me, America's media icon, talking to a highly play source. All right, I'm done. I've had so much fun doing these radio shows today. God, I wouldn't miss this for the world today.

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Walmart, two times longer than other blades. All right, I'm, this is what I'm told from a non-football source. Tom Brady is going to Tampa. He announces it tomorrow. What I was hoping for was the Dallas Cowboys. What I think is the best fit is the L.A. Chargers. But I'm being told it's Tampa Bay. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I'll still be on the air tomorrow. This is, I never took Tampa seriously. I didn't think it was a fit. I lived in Tampa. It's nice, but it's not Tom Brady. I didn't think it feels like him. And by the way, I talked to Albert Breer earlier, and I said, this is what I'm hearing.

You know, I'm not an NFL reporter. I'm not Jay Glaser. But I'm hearing it's Tampa. Here's what Albert Breer said to me. It makes sense. And I think there are a couple reasons why. Number one, one of his greatest frustration in the way of him last year was what was around him.

And that wouldn't be a problem in Tampa. The number two thing is flexibility within an offense. Number three, I do think Burraterian's previous experience with older quarterbacks, in particular Carson Palmer, is a selling point there. And number four, and I don't think you can underrate this one, the fact that it's actually a plane ride, maybe two, three hours from Tampa to New York, I think will be a factor based on who they were going up against, and that's the Chargers.

And so you roll all four of those things into one, and Tampa does make some sense. Now, I also know that Dean Spanos wants him. I think the Chargers are a great fit. I think L.A. feels more like Tom Brady. So if tomorrow the Chargers announced they have Brady, I won't be shocked. And I've said before, I'm kind of hedging my bet.

I got a non-football source that said Tom's announcing Tampa. It came down to the Chargers, Tampa Bay, and he considered the Miami Dolphins. That's what I was told. He considered the dolphins. He liked Brian Flores. He liked the direction. But it's a rebuilding team and the roster's not close.

Tampa Bay's roster offensively is great. The Chargers roster is very good. So this is what I'm being told. And I also said this, and I believe this definitively, having left four different corporations. Tom would have stayed if he had assigned Stefan Viggs. I think he would have stayed. I really do.

And Breyer talked about that, is that Tom absolutely was on the fence. And I don't think it's a coincidence after Diggs signs with Buffalo in his division. I think Tom called up the owner and said, can we meet in two hours? He didn't even would have stayed under certain circumstances. I can tell you that as fast.

Like, if certain things had lined up, I think he would have been very open to it. The other piece of this is, you know, I think, you know, the Patriots, did work on that. Like, and they did explore all options. And I can tell you that over the last two weeks, they've been very active in talking to different teams

about receivers, about tight ends. In fact, Tampa was one of them. So that's where we're at. The GM of Tampa said, we have talked to Tom. So he acknowledged that.

So that's been confirmed. I've been told that. They talked yesterday, yesterday afternoon. So, and I, know, when I say I've changed companies enough, Tom and I are dudes, you know, he's 40 and I'm in the 50s, but, you know, we both are professionally driven and into family, that similarity.

And I've moved a bunch of times. And I'm telling you, I know how you think you're looking for signs. And I think Tom would have signed if they would have added a Greg Olson and a Stefan Diggs. I think Tom would have stayed. It's hard to leave success. It's hard to leave smart. It's hard to leave winning. It is.

It was hard for me to leave ESPN. It was. I'd had a great 10 years. I had great people around me. I had friends. I'm a creature of habit. It was hard. But I kept waiting for signs. I had some misgivings. Just like Brady, my last year was frustrating. And then I waited for signs and I had an interview and somebody said something I didn't want to hear. And I got on the phone 12 seconds later before I hit the elevator and told my wife, let's roll, L.A. And that's how it works. And I don't think it's a coincidence that Tom, after two high profile receivers, DeAndre Hopkins went to Arizona for a deck chair, and Stefan Diggs goes in the vision. And I think they're looking there thinking Tom's like, all right, I'm waiting for a sign. March 16th, 18th. That's the tiny window. We've got to sneak these moves in. For the record, both Kraft and Belichick have come out today saying they love Tom. Could have done that earlier, Bill. Now, for the first time ever, Belichick's like, he's a goat. Yeah, a little late.

By the way, the Texans, everybody's freaking out. Oh, my God, they let go at the Andre Hopkins. First of all, the Texans as of this morning, have Will Fuller, Kenny Stills, and Randall Cobbett receiver, Deshawn Watson at quarterback, Carlos Hyden, Duke Johnson at running back, Darren Fell's a very good tight end. They're not going to lose because they can't score.

Why pay huge money for a receiver if you have a legitimate start, quarterback you got to pay. Russell Wilson, Brady, and Aaron Rogers and Carson Wentz make their receivers. The receivers don't make them. That's what the great quarterbacks do. If Deshawn Watson is great, moving off D-Hop is not a terrible idea. Payton Manning made his receivers. They didn't make him. Now, do I want more than a second round pick? Yes. Should the Texans receive more than a second round pick. Yes, they got a second and a fourth. If they would have gotten a second and another second, I would have been, I would have liked the idea and the execution. I like the idea. I get the idea. I didn't like the execution. Well, they also had to incur a very expensive contract for a year.

And they're going to resign David Johnson. I said Duke Johnson. They're going to resign David Johnson next year if he has a great year, which means the deal wasn't as bad as everybody claims. Yeah, just wouldn't cut him. But, I mean, they're going to have to pay a lot for one year. Well, they need more running back help anyway. But the idea of moving Hopkins, go look at who's winning Super Bowls. It's generally not the team with the best wide receiver. And they got to pay D. Sean Watson and Laramie Tunzel.

And they're like, we're not going to pay a star wide receiver. And it's a huge wide receiver draft. And we got a second pick. and we got a fourth round pick and we got a running back that for one year will fortify our backfield. They're not going to lose because of offense. The Texans are not

going to lose because of offense. They're going to lose because they can't stop anybody. They can't stop Kansas City or Baltimore or Cleveland or whoever. Yeah, they were up 24 nothing. They couldn't stop. Offense isn't their issue. So moving off a great receiver, Will Fuller, Kenny Stills,

and now they acquired Randall Cobb. That is top six. wide receiving groups in the NFL. And I'm going to lose because of that. The idea is fine. They just should have gotten another pick. They should have gotten a second, not a fourth. Two seconds, I'm all in on it.

A first I'm in on it. A second and a fourth, not so much. But they keep getting to the playoffs. Bill O'Brien's not a great GM. He's not. But I do think he's a better than average coach. There's a lot of stiffs out there.

Tom Brady's no longer a patriot. What a pleasure it was to do today's show. Albert Breyer, Charlie Wise, Mark Dominic. We had it lined up. Dave Coelho, our guest booker. We got a former Tampa Bay Buccaneer GM based on my little tip, Charlie Weiss, Albert Breer, and Jason Whitlock. Yeah, April 15th.

What'd you say? April 15th, 2000. Last time Brady wasn't a paycheck. Good, Lord. You know, it's one of those, where were you when you heard the news? I was driving on the 405 North. I would have just drove past the exit. I usually take to be on TV.

I don't have TV this week. FS1 is not on not broadcasting this week. That's where I was. I remember the brown couch I was on during, I won't even get into it. There's been a lot of massive tragedies and a lot of massive stories. I remember colors and places where I was.

I think I'm going to remember the Brady News. I literally just went, wow. I mean, it was like in my car by myself. I think I said, wow. But we knew this was the window. We knew March 16th, 18th. We knew it was the window. This is where they had to threat it.

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