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Episode Date: March 21, 2025

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Build you from the inside out. Now, here's Jay Glacier. Glaser. Welcome into Unbreakable Mental Wealth Podcast with Jay Glazer. I'm Jay Glazer. And the guests I have him right now, last time I had him on, is Andrew Whitworth, who's probably best-looking guest I have ever had on this show by far. Now, if you put the hat on it, we lose the effect. No, no, I got, now I'm hiding it. But when he was on in the past, it was a mental health podcast. And then what I found was guys like Witt, guys like myself, guys like Lane Johnson, Michael Phelps, we're trying to show people that mental health is not all gray.

It's not all depression, anxiety, all this. But I just kept still walking into these roadblocks where people are like, I don't know if I want to come on and talk about darkness or talk about depression. I'm like, that's not what mental health is about. So I changed it to mental wealth. And the reason why I did change in mental wealth is the whole point of when you talk about mental health, it's not just like, hey, this is where we are. We talk about mental health so we can build ourselves up so we can build mental wealth.

And, you know, Andrew's guy, for all these athletes out there, those six inches between your ears, that mental health, at least a mental wealth, that leads to generational wealth for your grandkids on that field. And I want to, you know, for every athlete out there, every businessman, I want to really take people through. We started training Witt 12 years ago or something like that. One of the early days in mixed martial arts for him to help himself turn football into a fight. But now witch training guys is a place called the village up in West Lake Village, right? Yep. Yep. The West Lake Village.

So he's taken now, he's become the grasshopper has become the, what is the thing from Kung Fu? The Grasshopper becomes the teacher. I'm not a Kung Fu guy, but you're spending some wisdom on me right now. I know. Grasshopper becomes the teacher. Is that what it is? So we're going to kind of go over together today. A lot of our training methodology, all between the years, behind the rib cage of what really

leads to greatness. And that greatness, again, it's not how famous you're being famous ain't the same as being great. It's not, you know, what you start with, and how much work you put in. And the hours that you put in to work when no one's watching. So that's by the longest introduction I've ever had. First all, how are you, buddy? I'm good, brother. I'm happy you have me on again, man. This is great. I love it, man. No, obviously. Yeah, last time I had you on, I think it was like my third guest. Yeah. back in the day back of the startup i love it it's been awesome to follow man i mean it's really cool to hear people's journeys and and really just you know seeing successful people and people who've gone

you know rode the roller coaster that is life and uh found out what their happy place is and what their mental you know healthy spot is and and you know when you're really chasing that mental wealth uh what does that look like and and how do you find that routine it's it's cool to hear that we're all really sharing the same experiences and things, although sometimes we may not open up about it. It's really been really neat to hear the journey that different guys have gone on. I think so many more have opened up about it than from the time you did it to now. Look, I did a feature of the Super Bowl with AJ Brown, right? Well, we just, hey, we're mental health buddies now. That's how we connected. We would never connect it and something like that. I think it's actually,

we're talking about leading to mental wealth. The more you open up your mental health, these relationships, A, they form, B, friends, come from friends to brothers, right? Or friends to sisters. You become family. I think it makes you a lot deeper. Yeah, there's no doubt because I think when you really talk about what is mental wealth, it's no different than when we say, hey, the difference in, you know,

some of us that came from nothing and all of a sudden you get a couple bucks, you think you can spend somewhere and you think you're rich and then you meet somebody who's actually wealthy. I think the difference is when you really talk about mental wealth. I think it's a combination of all those moments you've been through chasing mental health and chasing, hey, how do I get healthy? And then how do I put all those things together to find what is the best version of me when I'm in that space? And I'm in that spot where I know this is where I'm meant to be. These are the people I'm meant to be around.

What's that circle that I'm involved in that really makes me feel of, we call it all the time, J.R. locker room. But what is mental wealth? It's a combination of that entire journey and all those things coming together. and that's what really makes you wealthy is that, you know what? Yeah, you're going to have mental health days. You're going to have days where you're down. You're going to have days where you're frustrated with yourself. But that ability to build mental wealth will get you through those moments,

either through yourself in ways you know how to reflect or through your circle. And the people who are in your circle, they're going to stand there right with you and help you get back to that wealthy spot. Yeah, look, mental health-wise, gang, adversity is a gift. Like, there's no podcast or books out there. for when the times are good. We don't need that shit. Yep.

We just need them how to navigate through when those waters are rough. And that's where I think there's, you know, things like this now that are more readily available, which wouldn't have been a few years ago. All right, here's what we're going to do.

We'll dive right in here. All right. And again, first time I met Andrew, I said, man, for all you athletes out there, say, A, you got to make football a fight. Okay, that game starts,

that cage door locks. And you better make that dude across when you beg to get out of that cage, from you. And it's so funny. I would tell Witt and all these other players. And it's a complete opposite. I tell everybody in life now. If you are hurt or tired, you will never, ever, ever fucking know. In that cage, inside those lines, you don't fucking show it, right? No hands or hips. Neutral face. We don't show it. We don't show it. Now, conversely, I now talk to groups saying, all right, that mentality is needed for the field. It is needed for a cage, for a ring.

but that same mentality gets people like me to fucking crawl up in the corner of my room crying in the middle of the night or want to throw myself off a bridge so throw that out for the rest of life that's the mental health part we need you to be able to compartmentalize

and say okay I can be two different people I could be this savage inside lines and on that field and in that cage and I could be the guy who shows himself compassion and can show that pain and be vulnerable often but let's get back to a warrior

Glaze, Warrior Andrew, and I bring this up because we've taught players over and over and over and over. If you're hurt or tired, you don't show it. You don't show it. If you watched Andrew Whitworth, and I bring this up to every athlete we have, Andrew did not go in the huddle like everybody else. Right? Instead of putting your head fully in the huddle,

you ducked your ear in, and what you say is, let's see who the fuck is breathing heavy. Let's see it's burden. Let's see whose body language is given up. Take it from there, Andrew. Yeah, I just, you know, it became a switch to where I wanted to stare down, much like in, you know, in fighting and a lot of aspects of martial arts, you know, you never turn your back to your opponent. So I became someone who I'll never forget Sean McVeigh taking the job in 17. He's like, why are the hell do you not turn your body into the huddle and put your back to the defense? And I was like, I mean, I can listen, but I want to watch.

I want to stare at them. Obviously for reasons that I want to see football-wise of communication they're doing and things that can give me tails, but mainly I want to be the psychopath that they're like, man, why is this dude staring at me this entire 20, 30 seconds where we're waiting for them to come in a line of scrimmage, where I just kept eye contact at all times with the D-line and the linebackers and those guys because I felt like it was a mental message. We're both exhausted. We're both tired, but I will not break eye contact with you. and we're going to be engaged in this battle the entire day no matter what. And so it always became something. I'll never forget one of my favorite moments ever my career. Obviously, I shared the Derek Barnes story from the Lions game

and my Walter Payton, in the year's speech, of just not realizing that that connection from way back in my rookie year, but my favorite one is we're in Washington playing the commanders, and Chase Young is looking at me stare at him, and literally my mindset sweat walks over there, and they're like kind of having a conversation and I can hear Chase Young and go, yeah, right. And so he finally just screams across the huddle. He goes, bro, are you really 39 years old?

And I'm like, yeah. And at that time, I think Chase is 22, 23 years old. And it just blew him away that this old 13 year old man is just staring him down. And it was like, it was the greatest moment where he's like, wow, this is cool. This dude's a gangster basically. It was neat. Yeah, I fucking love it, man. And look, we, the story I was trying to tell when I meet with or any of these players

were trained is our, my partner in all this I started with was Randy Couture, who was six-time world heavyweight and led heavyweight champion the UFC and did it when he was 47 years old. But man, Randy has this fight against the guy named Mike Van Arsdale for the number one contender job. And no one, a spot. And nobody knows. Randy has a staff infection going to that fight. Dude literally has a pick line in. Cannot train.

but the way our players and our fighters go at it is we don't even really give a fuck if we win or lose. We just want that round, that fight, that minute to be the worst round fight minute of your life. And we get off on that. And if you could take that ego out of, oh, fuck, I got a fight not to lose or I better make sure I win

and makes you a lot more dangerous. We just want to be this torrential downpour of violence. And whatever happens happens, let's roll the dice. So Randy goes out, and does what we do and just, you know, play by his own set of rules. You know, there's sometimes you can have it in there something called a grappler's agreement. Like, you do this, okay, they respond that way.

They respond that. Randy's doesn't do that way. Like if you grab Randy's leg, you're going to get an elbow in the head. If you try and come up top, you're going to get a take down over here with an elbow to the head of this. It just, it just doesn't, nothing congruent. And rightfully, so, like, fuck you. I play by my rules. Yep.

But Randy wears this dude out so bad. But Randy has staff infection. So he comes over to his stool and it's the only time my boy was really going to sit down in his stool. He's about to die. And he turns and he sees Mike Van Arsdale plop down on his stool. And Randy just had this whole other fuck. I'm not going to show it. I'm not going to show it.

I'm not going to show it. His birth of life raising his arms to the crowd and all this stuff. and really he just broke him and he broke him because he never showed that he was about to fucking die and he just kept out

Van Arsdale was a stud a total stud and yeah he broke him and that same and by the way the fight was over by 30 seconds later yeah

and if you don't show it like I like what's saying the same thing as somebody going to their stool not taking a seat and then looking and Andrew Wilworth, like, why fuck is this guy not sitting down? Why is he not taking the stool?

Why is he not tired like me? And I think, Whit, I tell players this now, everyone signs up to play a game. The rare sign up to fight. I agree. I think that's the part of this game that has changed. And I wouldn't say that it's changed in a totality. I think it's changed with certain guys. And I think that now the guys who are really about that life and really want to play that style of football stick out like

there's so much greater than a lot of other guys in this game right now in the game of football because that is kind of a lost start. And it is something that isn't the, you know, the mentality of a lot of guys. And so the guys who are about that life now stick out a lot more because there was a time when you got, when I got in the league that that was this part of life. You want to be a lineman in the NFL. Like it was a fight. I'll never forget, you know, my, my second year in the league having to go in the game against Jared Allen as the left tackle was our left tackle went down and like I was playing left guard that season and moved over during the game and I always tell people like yeah I don't know if it was good bad or indifferent you can get a sack any of

that but what I do know is for the 40-something snaps we faced each other it felt like I was just in a bar in a fight like that's that's all we did it's just swinging at each other trying to get each other in the ground and you know and I played him a couple times after that once I became the left tackle from then on and that's always what it was and that's how we played football back then and so it just was a bar fight. There was no talking. There was no chatter. When I played Terrell Suggs or James Harrison, we never once spoke to each other because it was just a fight. And then later in my career, it's like I'd have full-on conversations with guys at timeouts because they'd want to chit-chat, you know? And it just, the mentality of that changed a lot. And so it is way different.

And I think it sticks out in this game. The guys are really built with that kind of lifestyle. And really, man, they like to make it nasty. They like to get after it. I think you really sticks out in the game. You think we can teach guys to turn into a fight? If you turn into a fight, it's right, tell guys, you make it a fight. 90% of the guys from you're going to hit their helmet and tap out. They want nothing to do with it. But you also have to put all this fucking work in when no one's watching.

That's the sacrifice that it doesn't just come naturally. You know, you've got to put this work into she become this fucking animal. Yeah, I think that's the biggest part to me, Jay, is that what I see. And there's some guys now that I'm, you know, try to help and I'll reach out to with the gym and say, hey, man, listen, this isn't something that's some big business venture for me. This is like my life. Like, this is what I love to do. And it's who, like, when I wake up every day and I think, you know what, I'm the protector of my four children and my wife.

I've always said this. I was famous when I was in Cincinnati. I said, I have two contracts in my life. I've signed two deals. One is to protect Andy Dalton and one is to be, you know, married to Melissa Whitworth. And I treat both of those with the same kind of respect in the sense that I'm the perfect. protector of those people and I take a lot of pride in that. And what does that mean? It doesn't mean just jumping in a moment like oh somebody pushed Andy Dalton and now you got to stand up for him or

oh somebody was disrespectful with my wife and now all of a sudden in the moment I'm going to do something. It means that every single day, 24 hours a day, my mentality is I'm in the kind of shape. Am I in preparing myself for when that moment comes? So like even right now, like hey, you're retired. You played for 16 years. I played 17,000 snaps in the NFL. Man, at 6 a.m., I'm pounding weights in the gym. At 7 a.m. I'm taking my kids to school. At 8 a.m. I'm on a machine doing cardio. At 9 a.m. 10 a.m. I'm boxing on the heavy bag. Then I'm going to sit around in the gym, hang out for the guys to come in. And then later, when my kids come in, I might get in the sauna. I might hop on a rogue bike. Like, whatever it is, it ain't

about burning calories getting a workout. And it's about, man, how can I just continue? What's that 1%? What does it look like? Like, am I going to sit on my ass in a chair and watch TV? Or am I going to just, man, what if somebody took me to a little deeper water, I think I could go, can I handle it? Like, I don't know when that scenario is coming. Maybe I think gladiators coming back at some point or, you know, 3,000. I don't know what's going to happen. We're probably not going back to those days, but my ass is going to be ready if we do.

And that's kind of the mentality I live with is that those moments don't just happen. I'm prepared for those moments because that's how I live my life. And so I think when I look across the league today, there's too many guys that are enjoying what it means to look like an NFL football player, but I don't know if they know what it means to chase to be a good NFL football player, to be a great one. They just enjoy the lifestyle and they enjoy being able to say they do it. You know, hey man, you want to come work out? Yeah, come on. I'll be gone for like two or three weeks, but I'll be back. You know, it's like, no, man, like this has got to be your life. If this is what you want to do and you want to be great at it and you won't do it for a really long

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And it gets confused nowadays. So I've been covering the league for 30, this is my 34th year coming up. And man, I used to go to the pro, It was my favorite trip every year. It used to be after the Super Bowl. But the only way you really got endorsements back then is to go to the Pro Bowl. Nobody missed the Pro Bowl.

Oh, my God. Not only that, being the insider, all these guys would call me, like the day or two before. It was the Jared Allen's and the Tony Gonzalez's and the Michael Strayant and the Brian Erlackers. Did I make it? Did I make it? Did I make it? Did I make it?

And I used to ask the league to give me the list of my guys early. so I can let them know. So they'd have to worry about it for an extra 24 hours. But they cared that much. It was about being great. It's about being recognized as being great because that's the only way you're going to get recognized. We're now TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,

all that stuff, X, whatever you can call it, right? You're famous. And it's like, you know, going into a fight with a full belly. You know, it doesn't work on it. It's the same as going and starving. You've got to now play mind games for yourself to be starving. Starving is an Andrew Weirth putting these hours in starting at 6 o'clock in the morning gang when no one's watching. The secret of greatness is putting in work when no one's watching.

Lane Johnson, who we've had for fucking 12 years, and some bitch took off fucking one week and started power lifting right away. The only time you know about it is when he fucking posts about it. But he is, it doesn't stop. It's a sickness. The Aaron Donald's of the world. It's a sickness. And you know what's better than being great? Fucking nothing.

Yeah. It is, Jay. And you know what's interesting? man, it's one of those things that, you know, and I say this to my kids all the time when they ask these questions, because they're obviously hitting that age as being in teenagers and they're curious. They want to know why this guy's good or this guy's good. And I always say, like, you know, it's really one of those things that we forget sometimes that the majority of our day are decided by habits we've either intentionally created or, you know, what, passively allowed. And when I was

at LSU, something that really taught me, I wasn't a hard worker in school. I was a big kid. It was really athletic. I played basketball in high school. And I got to LSU under Nick Saban, and I still to this day say the greatest coach I've ever been around. You know, I've used a lot of his influences to help when I mentored Sean or been around Sean in my career because I see a lot of those two guys that similarities and a lot of who they are. And Nick used to always say to the coaches, like he wasn't just hard on players. Like people say all this stuff about him being hard on players. No, his sense of urgency every day was on every single person that came across his path. And it was coaches, players, and everything.

And if you were in a practice and I messed up who I was had to block, or I was tired throwing up and I had to be taken out of the drill, you know, he wouldn't say come after me. He would go to my O-line coach and he would rip that O-line coach right in front of the whole entire team. And his philosophy was always you either coach it or you allow it. And I have used that principle to me to one of the things I love to do, and I always say this, is like, you've got to be able to take things you learn and go,

you know what, how can I apply this? that in a bunch of different ways. And I think when you find things like that, your ability to really apply to a bunch of different ways in your life is really significant. And so to me, I apply it this way. Every day, I either am choosing and coaching myself to be a certain human being or I am allowing myself to be this way today. And so I got to make a choice every day. Like, hey, you know what? I can allow myself to say, today kind of feels like a lay in the bed day. Today kind of feels like a drop the kids off and go have a couple drinks. And I'm going to end up tomorrow, even though it might be a fun day,

I'm going to end up tomorrow being mad at myself, right? I'm going to end up being mad at myself. That's right. And so I got to choose every day, do I coach or do I allow it? And so I've always applied that to myself because that's really what we're trying to do. And for people that want to do that, man, it's not as crazy. Like you just heard me list my day. It's not as crazy as you think.

It's about choosing that, hey, tomorrow, I'm going to start. a better habit. Like I'm going to start, whatever it is. Maybe I'm a cold plunge. Maybe I'm going to get a sauna. Maybe I'm going to go walk. Maybe I'm going to just take a few steps more than I normally do a day. Whatever that is, just create that habit. You'll start to get that positive feeling, those vibes from it that you'd be like, oh, man, I feel a little better about myself today just because of that. And then that'll become contagious. And then you'll get addicted to that feeling. And then all of a sudden, you'll start to add little things along the way. Think of it as creating new habits and not some big, huge, oh, wow, how would I ever get to this stage that they're

talking about? Because it seems like, man, I could never do it. You can. You just got to start to create one little good habit and let it lead to another. Look, the work ethic we're talking about, there's also different ways to fight, but this work ethic, it's pressure, pressure, the way our fighters fight, the way Whitworth plays, it's pressure. Every time he puts his hands on you, you don't make it hurt, right? Every time I get hands on some of it, right? Right. You're going to make it hurt. Yeah. And the other thing, and there's got to be little things in your life that show that.

You know, like one of the things I was famous for when I played. Like, you know, our special teams coach would always show the guys this when we'd have our kind of situational master meetings. He'd be like, hey, he'd be showing a clip to teach the guys. He'd be like, hey, I want you to notice something real quick. Because I don't know if you guys see this every single week. But regardless of the score, regardless of the situation, regardless of what just happened on the drive before, every single time we take the field,

Whitworth sprints to the hashes and he beats every player on the field of the huddle. Like every time we could be down 40 points, we could be up 40 points. He's sprinting no matter what. And I always would say when guys would be like, why do you do that? I'll never forget Cooper Cup and Tyler Higby like ask me that when I was a ram. And then there'd be little moments where they try to beat me in a game like in a pot. All of a sudden they'd like sprint with me. And I would laugh because it's like in their mind, it'd be like, oh, we beat you.

And I'd be like, no, you just did exactly what I hope happened. I got you to do it, yeah. I hope that you do it too because what they didn't realize is that I was, I was 38, 39, 40 years old than my career, Jay. Like, I get that these guys are looking up to me. But what could I easily do? Hey, man, you've earned the right. You're old. You've played this game forever.

Everybody looks up to you. Like, I'll be the last guy in the huddle. I'm just going to walk out there. I'm going to take my place because I've earned it. I can sit on the throne because I've earned the right to do that. No, no, no, no. I don't ever want you to see that side. That side means I'm taking what I got and saying,

you know what, I want to enjoy it. No, I'm going to be the first one to beat your ass out there so you can be like, wow, this dude's played more snaps than me, he's got more injuries than me, he's got more reason to walk, and he sprints his ass out there every time. And to me, that starts to getting guys' heads like, man, am I as committed as that dude is? And so for my teammates, it means something.

And for those guys that you're playing against, they're like, man, I don't know. if I want to go as far as this guy wants to go, right? And so that was a message that I always felt like I had the opportunity to send, regardless of whether we're up or down or what the feelings or emotions are. I don't choose emotions. I choose what is my mentality every time I walk in the ring. I really want people to hear that because we're talking about it for pro athletes,

but you could use this for anything. Yes. We're talking about this pressure, pressure, pressure, right? Like, we don't let up. We don't let up. You throw one punch, I throw five, right? Runs on the field. So that pressure, pressure is a bitch.

Pressure really breaks people. But what it also does. So A, you know, the secret of success is you're outwork in the world, right? Not by a little, by a lot. Ask Tom Brady what it did for them. Yeah. That's really what it was, right? I used to tell everybody all the time, find out who the best is and do more than them.

That's it. But also, it provides you a measure of chaos. Most people cannot handle chaos. those of us crazies who do things like this, and we talk about our anxieties, we're not great in a lot of public settings, but because we have this anxiety, this chaos that we create,

we are great in chaos. Most people aren't, whether this business or sport, and you create this chaos, and you're comfortable in it, most people will tap out, business or sport. Yeah, and I think that's the thing,

is like you just got to figure out, and that's why I meant by taking some of these things and saying, all right, how can I apply it to what I do? do. Like, I'm still able to take a lot of those principles and apply it to working on Thursday night football. I'm able to apply it to doing a podcast. I'm able to apply it to those things because what is pressure? Like, pressure is, is I'm willing to go places I don't think other people will go. Like in my career, outside of training really one-on-ones with yourself and renting some of those

guys and then, like, you know, later in my career at the very end, I trained with Ryan Sorenson, but I never worked out at facilities. I never went in big groups and worked out because I love feeling like I don't know what every other guy does, but I'm going to go as farther or farther than I think they'll go by myself. And like that always helped me when I'd show back up with a team and be like, wow, okay, I'm in better shape than these guys because it's like almost it was a positive to not know. Well, in life and business and everything else, like it's not about, oh, man, all right, I'll be the first one to work and then I'll stay longer than anybody else. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying things that are like not really positive. But hey, what are things that I can

do to get ahead? Like is it reading up on information? Is it applying pressure by every single time I walk in a business meeting with people, I'm going to know as much or more than any person that's in that room. I'm going to be over prepared for situations like at all times. And so that is applying pressure to people you're around. I'm going to ask them questions. I'm going to be a fantastic listener. I'm going to listen to people and I'm going to say, hey, how do I actually sit in a meeting and do I listen to respond or am I just waiting to talk? Like how do I apply pressure? A pressure isn't some negative thing. It's a great thing. You could be making a room so much better by applying pressure of being the best question asker in that room, the best listener, the best that

have an empathy and understanding the situation and what we're trying to accomplish as a company. I can apply all those principles as being great at something by applying pressure to everyone around me. The way I'm going to do something, hopefully other people will do it as well. And that's only going to make us better if we're all putting pressure on each other to be great at whatever it is we're doing. Look, as an NFL insider, my job is to break news or have inside information on a Sunday. It witness. I probably make a thousand calls a week. I don't stop. It never stops. It never stops. And you know, I don't do the Twitter breaking news stuff anymore because it doesn't make sense. Who could tweet fastest. But on Fox and a bell Sunday,

that you always hear something that you don't hear anywhere else. And that's a thing that's, I think a true insider, but I put in literally thousands of phone calls per week for, you know, five minutes of TV each week. And that's fine, that's what you have to do. That's the amount of work you have to put. So when Witt was playing, or when it was training with us,

and I kind of struggle with players now with his Witt. His workout with us was we did like five minutes of hips for him every day. He did a fucking hour and a half lift. Then he did an hour of mixed martial arts. needs an hour of fucking recovery. It was every day. And now I got guys going, hey, can I come up once or twice a week? And I'm going, I don't think I can make you a fighter once or twice a week.

It doesn't really work like that. It's fucking fight can't, man. It's changing your life. You know, and it's hard to get guys to understand. And it kind of always, I've marveled at it. Because, like, when Max Crosby last year, and he said, I always ask people to come in. When I start at 6 a.m., like, I'm in, he says, no one ever comes. You know, Lane Johnson, who we've had for fucking.

in 12 years, he's like, nobody wants to do this shit. And I don't understand why you wouldn't in such a short period put that extra work if you do what you've done saying, shit, it's going to suck during the time, but it's going to suck way more. If they close that glass and my team photo for the rest of my life, my grandkids see someone average. There's no doubt. I can remember even after, you know, we lose a Super Bowl in 18 and I'm like, man, I still want to keep playing, but like, am I stupid? I'm like, is it ridiculous at 38 to want to play NFL football still like you know I want to commit to it and I want to stay in I think this is the right decision and I remember I ran into Wayne

Gretzky at Sherwood where I live here he's he's a member here when plays golf there all the time and it's recently moved but he was here he's playing golf and I saw him and he was like dude so much respect for you love watching you play but let me let me just leave you one thing before I go play and I said yeah what's that way and he goes man make them ripped that jersey off of your back. And I was like, man, that's what I needed to hear, is to hear an all-time great who has accomplished everything he could possibly accomplish. And even him, he's like, man, I wish I had one more chance to skate on that ice. Like, you make them rip that jersey off your back. And so that, that really, I never forget him telling me that.

And I've always told guys that is that, you know what, like make them rip that jersey off your back. Like, this is one of the greatest things you'll ever get to do. Being a part of something way bigger than yourself is one of the best feelings in the world. It's like it's why to me and you and I've had this conversation recently, like even playing football, like being in that locker room, going through a season, Thursday night football,

same thing, traveling with our crew, like being invested in these games, like loving it, you know, doing all those things. And all of a sudden when you get these breaks, it's like,

man, I tailspend because it's like, man, I, oh, where'd all that go that I was pouring into? And then you go, all right,

shoot, like what is my rhythm? What's my vibe? and those things are your struggle. But the truth is that you're realizing actually it's a great thing because it's like I'm realizing how special that is, man. I'm actually, you know, you're in the moment and you're thinking, man, I can't wait for the off season.

But really, man, you freaking love it. And that's why you feel that way is because you absolutely love the crew you're with. You love what you do that you're so invested in it. And you're chasing those thousand calls every week that really what you're feeling is shoot, man. I miss that other love of you. my life that really I don't realize how much passion and energy I put into. And it's helped me to really like understand that and go, all right, that just means I

need to go pour my passion and energy to this other thing. And so I think for me, it's like that. It's like, man, I just wish guys would understand like the more you actually put into it, the more you'll actually fall in love with it. It's like any other relationship, your significant other, your kids, everything else. Like, the more you pour into it, the more you'll get out of it. it. And I think some guys just missed that because they're jaded by probably a way the lot of things have changed in high school with money with NIL in college to where it's all transactional. And man,

transformational life is way better than transactional life, man. Like I don't want to say when I'm done, football, media, everything, like I was successful. I want to say I was significant. I want to live a life of significance. I want people to go, man, I'm so glad Andrew Whitworth was in my life. I'm so glad that I got a chance to be that dude's teammate. I'm so glad that I had a chance to be his friend. That is significance. That's not success. And so I think success will happen if you live a life of significance in the way that it's meant to for you.

And so for me, man, that that's what I see and guys. I just hope guys understand that that is bigger than the check. It's bigger than the notoriety to have that opportunity one day to feel like you lived a life of significant. You made a difference for people. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, again, there is a method to this madness too. If you guys want to, any pro athletes want to come train with wit and I out there. It's up here at a place called the Village. You can DM him, DM me, but it's fucking all in.

We have a guy running sorensen who's going to train you every day. We're going to do MMA with you, three, four days, five days a week. Which is going to work with you, but it's a fucking commitment. You're all in. Not, hey, can I, let me get a couple workouts in with Ryan or let me, I want to learn a hand fight. It doesn't work like that. We don't spar one day going into a fight. It doesn't work like that.

And I want people to understand the level of commitment that it really takes to be great. And don't leave those fucking regrets on the floor. It's up to you. Nobody else. It's up to you. You're not going to get lucky and have a great career. It doesn't work like that. It does not work like that.

And you may have a lucky catch, maybe a lucky pass, but you're not going to get lucky and have a great career. And if you have a really good courier, but you're skating by, you're going to fucking regret that too. Yeah, you're going to regret it one day. You could have put a gold jacket on. The gold jacket guys were friends with John Lynch's and Tom Brady's.

They weren't then coming out. Yep. Right? They put that working Andrew Whitworth. Okay. you could turn into that. Lane Johnson, you could turn into that guy. It's never too late to do that. So really, man, understand whatever it is you're doing,

whatever you're passionate about in life. Turn it into a fucking fight and outwork that person. Every hour of every second of every hour of every day of the week, make it your passion. As Andrew said, fall in love with it. It's your other relationship. Before I let you go, tell me, now that you started coaching guys, tell people out there kind of some of the stuff that you like to key in for them again for our stuff we work on your hips work on your hands work on your hand violence

and work on your your mentality a lot of that between the years stuff that that fighter mindset tell everybody out there the stuff that you've been able to improve over the years that you can now pass to these guys yeah i think for me it's it's really creating a space where you know when i when i came up with the concept of building the village uh you know it's about creating something that i felt like man all right, how can I combine all the things that I felt like went into who I became and what I was able to accomplish in my career and see also people have impact with? How are all the different ways that I trained and the things I dabbled in? Because a lot of people who don't know my history, like from my entire career, I never really stayed that consistent with the exact plan of how I was going to train. I loved to dabble and find. I always said I was on this search.

and I was going to find what is the best optimal way to train my body and get prepared. I mean, I've done everything from CrossFit to heavy power lifting to, you know, one year I went into like swimming. I thought like, all right, I'm going to take pressure off my body. Like, I'm going to learn how to swim like an Olympic swimmer. Like, so I hired a swim coach and I trained at a swimming pool gym in Louisiana Tech. And, you know, I've done everything from MMA, all the hit training. I've been to facilities and trained.

I've done everything you can really think of from that aspect. I mean, I used to hike mountains and backpack and ruck and everything else. So I said, hey, how can I combine a lot of the knowledge and things that I've gotten from all those things and say, all right, anybody that walks in this door, I can help them. I don't care if they're a skill player, a lineman doesn't matter, a quarterback. I can help them on their journey because I've tried a little bit of it all. And then obviously Ryan Sorensen's a really special trainer.

He's one of the best I've ever been around in a one-on-one setting. And so I was like, man, this is a no-brainer. I'm going to help Ryan with his knowledge and what he already knows. We're going to put together a lot of thoughts we have. And people who want to come out here and live in a world of whether it's one-on-one or a smaller group-type training setting and really get that holistic approach. Like, you know, the infrared saunas, the workouts, the walks, the training, all the things it takes that I think is from the head, the brain, to the heart,

to what you do, the specifics of how exactly your body moves. in the best optimal way to take care of yourself. I think some places may stress your conditioning. Some places may stress your strength. To me, strength, mobility, conditioning. None of them gain if we don't all gain. And so we're chasing how do we find this balance? Because I think that's in life,

whether we're talking about in a weight room or not, we're all looking for a balance. Like what's that blend that's our blend for being happy and finding our spot? I'm trying to help people's bodies find that blend. And what is that perfect cocktail mixture that puts you at? Yeah. The biggest thing you give also?

Yeah. If you're a cruelty, go to this man and learn the answers to the test. What I mean is go learn how to watch filming from him. We'll learn some technique. You know, again, I know more than 99.99% about football, but I'll never know more than him. Or my friends, the Howie Longs, they're Michael Strayhands. I would sit with these guys.

They're watching film. And they're looking at the littlest fucking things. And they're like, oh, look at this guy's foot. when it's, you know, third and two and his foot is out and needs to draw. I'm like, how fuck do you see that? But they can teach you that. And actually, I learned it early, and I started having you guys try and teach the fighters that because fighters weren't watching film besides Couture is the first guy to do it.

So it's kind of mixed. Like, hey, we're going to teach you the fighter mindset. You'll teach us the sport IQ. So go learn from this man. How to watch film. You'll get the answers to the test. Yeah. You know, I think of a.

I can give you all the answer. just the test. Yeah. I think just last year, man, we, you know, we had Parris Johnson come in, the left tackle for the Arizona Cardinals, and who just had a great year. And, you know, he comes to us with me and Ryan. And it's like, hey, man, you know, there's some pattern things in your body, how you're moving and little things that, like, we got to fix.

And so it started with changing his body. And then that led to how he's moving and how we get those hips rolling and all those type things because you're doing some things that are going to lead to problems for you. And we can see it. But let's fix it. and now he has, you know, a year where he's healthy and he plays well. And then that turns into, hey, let's go do some drills and let's talk about stuff. And those kind of things start coming out.

I'm never forgetting me like, whoa, I have worked with people. And I took him to dinner. He's like, I've worked with people. I've trained with everybody. I've chased all these things. And in two days with you, I've learned more than I think I've learned my entire time. I've been chasing all this for all these years. He's like just these little things that I just didn't even know.

And that was just so a wrong. rewarding, cool opportunity. And that's the kind of stuff I'm into, man. It ain't about my benefit in it. It's about, man, how can I help somebody else reach this goal they have? Because the game of football has changed my life significantly. It has made this an awesome impact on my kids, my wife. All of us have a better experience in life because of what it's done for me. I just want to see other people have that same opportunity. And that would be a freaking cool reward. Like I said, a life of significance to be able to make an impact on somebody where they feel like, man, you know, you helped me get to where I want to go. Then like me, for me, that's, that's the greatest

impact I can have. I'm right there with you. And I think it's probably where we're brothers. I've been doing this since 2007. Jared Allen's the first guy trained in M.A. and went from there to Patrick Willis and Brian Cushing and then Clayton. Well, I can thank you because my kids love that I have literally just bone scars of tissue on both forearms. from years of people chopping my bones off. So, yeah, I have some nice, good little bumps and my forearm bones. So I appreciate it, Jay.

Oh, hey, things like that, that's what I'm talking about. Like, we were at the Pro Bowl one year, and Joe Stelly goes, hey, dude, fuck you. I'm like, what? He goes, fucking Clay Matthews, damn there, broke my arm in a fucking game. And the NFC championship game, I'm like, I've never been more proud of a guy in my life.

Like, I'm so happy. because you use that hammer fist we taught. But my point here is, I've never gotten paid for all this stuff. We take money, but I've given it to my fighters. I've given it to my coaches. I've given to my trainers. I just love to change people's lives, their kids' lives, their grandkids' lives. That's what it's been about for me.

That's what a guy like Whit, make sure whoever you're going to have coaching you, that's what it's about. It's about making you great. It's the selflessness. When you're a coach, man, there is nothing like seeing your team base succeed. And I do that and everything in life, man. like loyalty is a dying art. And I am, for anyone is kind of wondering like, hey, why is he talking about the village? I actually sold Unbreakable to my coaches,

which is really cool. I got to pass it on to them. With the fires and everything that happened here in Malibu, I couldn't drive it to West Hollywood anymore. Man, it takes two and a half hours now. So I said, it's time to just pass it on, which is great. I'm happy out here in Malibu. And luckily, Brother Witt opened a place at 10 minutes from my house. I'm like, great, we'll just start doing it over there. So it's the village. Again, reach out to him, reach out to me.

What's the village on Instagram? Yeah, it's the village ATG on Instagram. Before I let you go, one last thing. I know we started this. Normally I asked somebody to give me their unbreakable moment. And you already did it because you were on the show. But I had one today for this weekend. And we said we started with mental health.

I'll finish with mental health. And this is what you're supposed to do. And this weekend broke me, you know, but no, it didn't break me. It fucking beat me down a lot. And to the point where I was saying some really, really, really, really dark stuff. I normally don't come out of my mouth about not want to be alive and things like that. And, you know, I would never, I promised you and I promised everybody else, I would never take that route. Because it's selfish me.

I'm not going to do it. But you just kind of, I just got one of those really bad ditches where, man, you're just hoping you just don't wake up. And it used to happen a lot more until I started talking about mental health and happens less now. So when it happens now, maybe it's a little bit more staggering to me because I have these rituals that Whit and I are talking about. Finding these rituals, finding your finding those things. And when I kind of get out of them, for whatever reason, and I don't sign up for the shit in the first place. So I don't know what's going to happen. But I made a promise to Witt and Michael Phelps.

And when I get like this, I'll reach out. I'll hold myself accountable. And I did. And I didn't break because I have brothers that I would reach out to. And even doing this pocket, you know, here's the thing, too, gang with mental health. I'll never take a fucking day off from it because I'm not going to let it win. I don't do that shit. I'll fight you.

I'll make it hard. I ain't going to do that shit. So that's the truth of it. But I want to finish on that because I want people to know what these. brotherhood to do and that you make a promise to someone you got to keep that promise so i appreciate you man and i still going through but you uh probably at least 50% better from just coming on doing this shit and talking to you earlier and being able to unpack it you know yeah i appreciate your brother you know i love you and uh you know that's like i said that's that's the difference to me when we talk about

just chasing mental health and then finding being mentally wealthy and and you know what jay like you're going to have these moments because that's how we're wired. We didn't sign it for it anyways. And, you know, you and I have shared over the years, times like that when they happen. And for me, a lot of the times, you know, there's certain things that trigger it over time. And sometimes we know it's coming. Sometimes we don't. But becoming mentally wealthy is being able to have these moments that we've created like this, where we got a brother to share it with and we got somebody that we can be accountable to. And that's being mentally wealthy is that you now have a much bigger team. you've done an awesome job of creating those things so when i talk about life of significance man the

impact that you've made on multiple people and in a massive amount of people through your book through this podcast through everything else uh you are mentally wealthy brother and so man you are needed you are significant and uh that's what you got to know about yourself you know i love you but we all have them man and you know it's it's one of the reasons i stay so active and work out so much is because, you know, I'll go back to, you know, those things, those, those crazy roommates will start telling me things that happened 20 years ago or 15 years ago, 10 years ago and beat me up about it, you know, and then I'm like, wait, you know, like, no, no, no, like go do something, get that out of your system, let it go. And we all got to find what it is

that it makes us mentally wealthy. And friends like you, man, definitely help me do that. And I hope you realize how significant and, you know, how big, how big, you. your mental wealth is, man, that you've created with this podcast. You've got a lot of people that look up to you every single day for the example you lay forward. That's why it's my obligation to talk about it when it's like this. By the way, you can hear it through my voice. It's just, man, it's kicked my ass this weekend. And it happened. We were at Nobu Malibu, middle of the afternoon, having the greatest day. And then the fucking sky just fell on me. Been laying kind of lifeless ever since, trying to fight it through and try to get myself going

yesterday, but again, it's my obligation, A, to stay alive because that's, that's it. Like, I'm not not, that's it. And I got to use my pain to help others through theirs. So next time you hear me, I'm sure I'll be a lot pepier or lively or I fucking pulled it off today regardless. But this is also like for anyone listening out there, like, these are the conversations you need to have. You heard Andrew's reaction to me. He didn't fucking call me a push, he didn't fucking tubby suck it up. He didn't do any of that shit, right? And that's why you got to leave him to your teammates.

So, brother, I love you. I appreciate it. I'd only do that if you put your hands on your hips, okay? That ain't fucking happening. I appreciate you, man. I love you, brother. Appreciate it. Thank you for this weekend for life.

Yes, sir. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called,

Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.

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