The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Von Miller: Super Bowl winning QBs & Josh Allen, Retiring a Bill, Chasing Bruce Smith

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

EP #8 - On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan pod, Cam is joined by fellow 2011 Draft pick and future Hall of Fame pass rusher Von Miller. In the spirit of Halloween, they discuss the good and the gross of Halloween candy. Von also sheds light on the legendary parties he used to throw to celebrate Halloween, and how this year he’s starting a new tradition that fits into his journey through sobriety. From a football perspective, Von shares how Josh Allen compares to two QBs he’s won Super Bowls with: Peyton Manning and Matthew Stafford. Von also talks about wanting to reach the 20-year benchmark, and how he plans to retire with the Bills. Cam also reflects on playing in his 200th regular season NFL game Sunday.   1:05 - Cam on Saints win Sunday over the Colts  4:00 - Cam on playing in his 200th regular season game of his career  4:47 - Cam on the trade deadline, and threatening to retire if the Saints traded him  7:05 - Cam on his family’s Halloween traditions 8:25 - Cam on the best and worst Halloween candy 12:06 - Cam is joined by Von Miller  14:21 - Von on what he studies to develop his “get off” from the line of scrimmage  16:58 - Von on being devastated when the Broncos traded him to the Rams  24:34 - Von on how winning Super Bowl 56 helped him get over being traded  26:40 - Von on which of his Super Bowl rings is more special  27:25 - Von on why makes Sean McVay a great coach  28:05 - Von on wanting to play 20 years in the NFL  29:46 - Von on the similarities and differences between 3 QBs he’s played with Peyton Manning, Matthew Stafford, and Josh Allen  32:17 - Von on similarities between Broncos and Rams teams he won Super Bowls with vs. his current Bills team  33:43 - Von on how he became a chicken farmer, and which he loves more: chicken farming or golf 36:55 - Von on good and bad Halloween candy  38:57 - Von on the legendary Halloween parties he threw when with the Broncos  40:12 - Von on his journey through sobriety  42:20 - Cam and Von on being the locker room DJ  41:48 - Von on Phil Collins being part of his pre-game ritual  45:53 - Cam on the music that gets him hyped for games  47:42 - Von gives Cam his flowers  48:47 - Cam gives Von his flowers  50:12 - end of Von interview 50:17 - Cam closes show *NOTE: Time codes are approximate  The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Radio. #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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KMJ. Car to throw, wants to go deep. He's got Shaheed out there. He's got it. And Shahid in for the touchdown. 58 yards to give New Orleans the lead. Let's just get straight to it. Here we go.

Saints win. We're back at 4-4, 500 even. Now, hopefully we start stacking them wins. We need that chance. It's about that time. We're entering November, and November is prime. It's a lot of rhymes. All right.

To take over, we have to be able to have. have games like we did this past weekend. I think Jonathan Taylor, I think 21, they did a great job. They tandem that they are going crazy the way that they did. I think they're a good team. And that's sort of what happens. We have great players on good teams and they try to take it out. That being said, we got to win.

Played Gardner, Minshue, three different times on three different teams now. That's a win and a win and a win. And I feel like I sacked them as well. But that's a whole other thing. If it is, if it isn't, we'll see what happens. It's okay. Defense will come back. My dog, Paulson Adibo, number 29 for the black and gold.

Everything in black and gold just looks great. Interception in the end zone. I was like, get down. Also trying to set up a block for him. And he then reverse takes it all the way to the far side numbers, which, okay, fine, I guess. But we're all on the near side numbers trying to block for you. Takes the far side numbers, scourges up the field for like 30 yards or whatever it is. We'll take it.

But let's talk about offense there. Offense was electric. Electric. Tuddies everywhere. Albuhram Multiple Tuddies. Taitam Hill. Tuddy. Rishi Shaheed.

The need for speed. Three catches 153 yards in a Tuddy. Tuddy being a touchdown. Come on, stick with me here. This man was averaging 51 yards of catch. Burners, wheels. Oh, and their car was putting out them deals. You get a Tuddy.

You get a Tuddy. Come on. everybody get in it's a beautiful thing it's exciting it's inspiring you know dc four time pro bowler was talking to him on the bus prior about guys that i'll i'll do my best to forget he hit me on the sideline like you go remember me i said dc you're a pro bowler i'm always going to remember you you're my quarterback now i'm always going to remember you so that's that's big game for our team that was that was really like icing on the cake the way that they were playing which makes you so so excited about our potential and we have to be able to capture that potential for the next nine

games again sitting at four four we've got a lot to fight for as we're sitting atop our division and i wouldn't say running away with it but we have a chance here we have to start stacking these wins asap starting with this upcoming week against chicago bears now let's move along and move out the way it'd be remiss of me of saying i've been so blessed to play in this league for the last 13 years. I finally hit my 200th regular season game. I think I hit a 200. I thought I hit a 200, but it was with the playoffs included. So this past weekend was my 200th regular season game. 1099 start, 99th start, which is, I feel like, which is impressive. You know, being from Jack class 2011 with so many Hall of Famers, so many goats, everybody that,

you know, from Cam Newton, the way he changed the game. enter into the field of play to, you know, right after him being Von Miller, who we're going to have on the show later. Let's just talk about it's Von Miller. Go. But then, of course, let's just talk about today, spooky season. And I just want to say, it's Halloween. So it's, it's Halloween, but it's a Tuesday and it's the trade deadline coming up.

A lot of things have already happened. You talk about, you know, the notable would be, you know, Big Cat, Leonard Williams from USC. getting traded from new york to uh the the sea hawks um i don't know maybe like said maybe i'm biased i'm just like loyalty loyalty loyalty and teams are like commodity commodity commodity it sort of hurts i don't know like said i'm biased because i've been with the northern states for 13 years i'm biased because you know my dad steve jordan uh vikings ring of honor six-time pro bowler uh was you know one clubber when i was over in Central Europe, you know, they were like, oh, you're a one clubber. I was like, sure I am. You know,

when you play for one team, you, you get a lot of loyalty or, you know, I feel like there's ties there. Like, all my kids are from New Orleans, you know, all like I met my, I met my wife in New Orleans. You know, everything that has had good to me has happened as a grown man sort of happened in New Orleans. So, you know, the city has embraced me just like I have embraced the city. So I would be devastated if I was ever traded. Now, have I seen, you know, tray rumors with my name attached to them? Sure, a plenty. You know, over the years, right before I signed my first, well, technically my second deal, but my first deal after being drafted by the Saints, you know, there was rumors going around. I could be traded and I went up top. I was like, hey, is that true?

And they were like, no, but if there's a good deal for both of us, we're probably, you know, we could be open to it. I was like, I was like, you send me anywhere cold. Like, that's it for me. And they laughed and I was serious. And, you know, it is what it is. Eight, nine years later, still a saint you know i think of uh year seven or eight or whatever that was there was some trade rumors going up there and by that time i was i'm bawling and i've made enough to never have to work again as my dad would say it i've got to leave me alone money and that's the the the abridged kinder version and i don't know what that means but it means i was able to dictate a lot of things like if you trade me i will retire and they were like no you wouldn't retire i was like no i would like right now i'm on a

legacy vibe anyways sorry that i'm gonna have to i'm gonna have to go on and what i really want to just turn to is Halloween and let's just talk about you know who sets the ideas up for Halloween my first couple years with it with a young family it was me my first uh i always enjoyed you know my older brother flying in when i first got to leave he would fly in once one year i was like superman he was bad man or whatever that was um uh my boys would fly in and we'd have great holl Now I'm a family man. The Halloween dynamic has changed. You know, now we go trick-or-treating.

And now all the kids can walk. I'm sort of excited. My youngest is too. She can walk now. She can talk now. She's going to be cute. She's going to be like a little toad from Super Mario World, whatever that is.

She's going to be a little toad situation. Cute little thing, right? Then, Nea, of course, is the little magician, wizard, cupa-trupa. Cute little thing, right? Then my daughter is Princess Peach because my oldest daughter is Princess Peach because she's a she's a queen in her mind she's a princess but in her mind she's a queen then of course

my son tank Mario wife Luigi and I'm Bowser so that's what the family situation is she did it all the last two years I've been hands off on this I get control of Christmas onesies and that's what I'm known for I let her do it last year it is what it is but that being said as we're going trick-or-treating let's just talk about some of the best candy involved here like best candy twicks payday Snickers, Sour Patch Kids, Swedish fish are good go-toes. In fact, this time of year, you get excited. Sometimes you'll find them good, you know, them relic candies, them six-lits, gobb-stoppers. On the flip side, where's candy? You'd say candy corn. Those scary people that eat candy corn, like I'm not saying that I, like you fully bought into Halloween. That's the only thought I have.

And like candy corn, how old are you to like candy corn? Like I assume your next favorite candy is Werther's originals. And then after that is that random strawberry tinfoil candy. Tell me what decade you're from for you to think candy corn is delicious. Because you just didn't have a lot of options in my mind. It was probably like 1940, 1930 something Halloween. It just like really hit mainstream and you were like, oh, this wonderful confectioner sweet candy corn. or like those weird people that put like salt water taffy out i don't even know what flavor this is i don't

want it bring me what's great snickers twigs but anyways i'm excited to speak you know i'm excited for everything that's going to happen down the night with the fam i'm excited to bring on my next guess which of course is the legendary von miller stay tuned tap in off the edge me cam jordan man, legendary, Von Miller, Von Bilsner, a hope and a hero, draft class 2011 legend. Number two overall, my man's got, you know, leading active sack leader, if that's how you word that, 123 and a half sacks in the career. Stop playing with him.

You know, I've, we clearly played the same timeline, drag for the same year, coming from Texas A&M, where you're an All-American over there, coming to the pros, where you're multiple all-prose, A time pro bowler. The accolades go on and on, you know, Super Bowl MVP, two-time Super Bowl champion. I don't even know what it feels like to wear a ring

that says I've won something at a high level because you've won them all. Bro, there's nothing that you haven't done. Appreciate you for tapping in to off the edge, bro. Man, Cam, I appreciate you for having me, man. Like you said, it's been a long time, man. You know, that intro was kind of long-winded. I'd rather you just say Von Miller a chicken farmer.

Nah, nah. Hey, take care of your mentals, take care of your chickens. But no, bro, all the McAllets, you got. In fact, I left out a couple, like, you know, 2010s, all decade, NFL team. Stop playing. Stop playing. See, that's what legends are allowed to do when you can downplay the greatness. I'm not going downplay it, bro.

I'm here to hype it up. I appreciate you tap it in just because, you know what I'm saying? The fact that, you know, you have the Von Miller-Pasra summit, bro. You started that. It's your rally point, bro. you're one of the greats and everybody wants a little, you know, piece of your time. So I appreciate you give me. Man, it's all love and respect, Cam.

You know that, man, from day one, man. We've been locked in. It's been all good vibes from, you know, here, L.A., New York, where it might even be Paris, where I might even run to you, man. No doubt. It's all good. It's all love. Man, I appreciate you for having me, man.

And if I remember, it was, you said leading, you said God leading sex. If I can remember, right, I think you was. Six behind me. Man, so yeah, yeah, like, probably six and a half at this point. Six and a half? Yeah, man. Who's keeping score, man? Oh.

Who's keeping score? That's what I say, legendary. I would have know, like, you know, like, we've talked about our mentalities at your pastures Summit Camp, but, like, I just want to know how is it that your elite is so, like, your get-off is so elite, you know? What goes into that? Like I'm always keying like play clock behind the office alignment or knowing where a quarterback likes to hike, hike within that situation. But for you, is it just awareness?

Is it reacting off of office line? Like what does it entails your getoff versus what I do? Man, you know, from going to the past first summit, you know, I look at whatever, you know, whatever information I can get, whether that's the play clock, whether that's formation, whether that's, the right tackle or the right guard or the center or the left tackle and the left guard, like I'm looking for whatever I can get to really help me with a good get-off. It might be the center's heels. He might be because sometimes these 300-pounders, they need a little bit of help to, like, get out of there.

Sometimes it might be the quarterback under center, you know, especially the tall quarterbacks. They like the, you know, crowd underneath there and they have to move before they really hike the ball to get where they want to go. So I just try to look at whatever I can get, man. And it's hard to have, it's hard to have 11 guys on the same schedule. It's hard to have 11 guys saying the same thing. You know, I like to get a little bit of information from whoever's going to give it to me.

Yeah, so you do all that during film breakdown. You get whatever you got. What Denzel say? He said, I came in here. I'm not leaving out something. I'm going to leave a song. I'm going to use everything I got. Sometimes it might just be in the game.

You know, it might just, I might, it might be all the way up to that first or second snap, you know. And then, you know, if I can't find any information, then it's, it's, I'm guessing, you know, I ain't afraid to say it. You know, I hate to word it like that. Let me worry it like this. I anticipate. Yeah. So I'm not.

Sometimes it's a little gamble, you know, sometimes you take information and I'm trying to hit that blackjack. Oh, I was doing. Man, out of all the past rushes, if I give, if I jump off sides, you know, two or three times a season, like, I'm okay with that. Right. I'm okay with two or three outside as a season. You know, that's going to help me get, you know,

two or three more sex. I will pay my taxes, man, and I'm okay with, I'm okay with jumping outside. Sorry, Coach. It'll never be, it'll never be on third and five, do I tell you that right now. It'll never be on 35. Yeah, I'll be on that third and eight,

39. I'm going to pull the trigger off the show. I love that. I love that. So, you know, trade deadline coming up. I was talking about it early on the show. But, you know, just, I've never been traded.

You know, you were a Denver legend and then got traded the Rams. What is it? And now you're over at the bills, but like what does it feel like being traded one and just the process? Like I don't even know who I'd call. You're like, hey, move my stuff, take care of my family. I got a game. I got to play next week. And everything that I know and have known for years, got to figure it out.

Man, I would tell you this. They will figure it out in a short period of time. whether it's the equipment guys, whether it's the equipment guys, where it's your agent, you know, whether it's your assistant or whoever, they, they will, I'm telling you, they will figure it out. And it feels like, honestly, it feels like, um, it feels like your girlfriend just roll over and look at you and just say, oh, I don't love you no more. I'm gonna go get somebody else, you know. That's what it feels like. It has like that I was heartbroken, man. Like, you know, I, um, you know, I felt like I was just, you know, I, um, you know, I felt like I was just. You know, I was just. You know, um, you know, I felt like I was just, you know, going to be like the Larry Fitzgerald of, you know, how Larry Fitzgerald was for the Cardinals. Like, no matter how good it was, he was there, no matter how bad it was, you know, he was there. You know, I think he played 16 or 18 years and he was there, you know, whether he was playing well or whether he was just, you know, mediocre. His whole phase, he was there.

And I thought that would be me, you know, obviously that didn't happen. But it felt like I was when they told me, so that morning, right, they, I had no idea, for one. You know, sometimes guys, they have like an idea. Sometimes they might be the agent. Rumors. A little echo. I didn't have a whisper. Me or my agent, we didn't have anything.

I didn't have any. They kept it all secret. And I go into the office right after the game on Sunday. I didn't play in that game. I was in the training room getting my ankle worked on. And the head trainer was like, hey, man, George, George Payton. He was like, man, George want to see you upstairs.

And I looked at him. Hey, won't George come down here? Like, I'm in the training room. He's like, I think, you know, George wants to talk to you up there. So immediately I knew that I was getting traded. So I grabbed all my stuff and it just felt so every single step, it just felt like, dang, what's going on, man? It felt like I was going to the principal office.

I get up in there. I sit down in the seat across from George Payton's desk. He presses a little button. So he had like a little button on this thing and he pressed it and the door closed behind me. And I sat down and he said, hey, Von. How's your ankle? I was like, man, ankle's good. He's like, so you'll be able to play this coming a week.

If you could play, I was like, yeah, I'll be ready to go. I'll just go miss one game. He's like, okay, yeah, well, that's good. Well, I would like to tell you that we are trading you to Los Angeles Rams, just like that. Just like that. How are you going to ask me about my ankle if you? You know, obviously had to see,

obviously had to check and see if, you know, I was healthy. But I was, I was healthy, man. And, you know, he told me that, you know, the Broncos are a long. way away from winning. You know, I'm ready to win right now. Gave me the whole spiel. Like, man, we send you to LA round. And I was like, man, how can I, how are you going to, how am I going to fit over there with Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey? Because I, you know, this is my 11th year in league. I know how caps work, you know, I know like, you know, I know how I go. So I'm like, man,

they got Matthew Stafford, Andrew Whitworth, Leonard Floyd, and Cooper Cup, Cup, Robert Woods. I'm like, how am I going to fit in there? He's like, oh, well, we're going to pay your salary. We're going to pay your whole salary. We just, you know, we need the drive picks. They need you to top off their rush. And, you know, it's a win-win. I was like, really?

He was like, do you not want to go to L.A.? I was like, yeah, I'll go to L.A. Basically, he was saying, you can go anywhere. Yeah, we'll find someone else. You can go anywhere, but you just got to get up out of here, well. It was, I cried. I actually cried. I had, it was like, it wasn't like,

a small tier either though it was like a 45 minute like crime spell like you had said like as you know like my whole life has been Denver Broncos I spent a whole third of my life I spent 10 I spent 10 and a 10 and a half years with Denver Broncos I was 32 I was 32 at the time has been a third of my life in Denver um won a Super Bowl there I had my first son there um had my my house there I had everything I was rooted. I had truly bought into being a colorotan. I used to go fly fishing and, you know, the whole thing. Your chicken farming out there, though. No, no, my chicken farming. It was like, you know, so they have

they was like, man, you're going to go and I got on the phone with Coach McVeigh. And Coach McVeigh, he made me feel better when I got on the phone with Coach McVeigh, he was like, hey, man, like, we need you, man, let's go win a Super Bowl. And the crazy thing is, like six, I think it was like four, four, like four and a half of six years ago. I was in a club in in LA and I had ran in a coach Mickvay. What was the coach with the Arizona Cardinals? Cliff Kingsbury.

He was with Cliff Kingsbury, Coach McVeigh, and it was another coach. They was in there having a good old time. And I was, you know, I was in the club. I was still with the Denver Rock. I was like, hey, man, like, you know, you have a couple of dreams. You just, boy, I'm just like, hey, man, like,

come on, man, pick me up, man. Let's go win Super Bowl. Like, let's go win Super Bowl. Come get me, man. Premier with AD. You know, I usually be in the club. He remembered that. And on the phone, he was like, hey, man,

come a long way from just in the club by winning the Super Bowl. He was like, come on over here, man. Let's make it happen. So he made me feel better. You know, I went home. I went home. I started looking around. Like, my whole house, like, I built it from the ground up.

Like, my whole house is all Denver had all these memories and game balls and stuff. And I had left. They kicked me out of the facility so fast that they had to come to my house. The media team had to come to my house to have me do my farewell to Denver and the Denver Broncos. So I did that. A couple more tears, Phil. I went out to, I went out to Benihana's because that's one of my favorite spot to go in Denver. You know, when you say Benihana's like, you know, but this one is top of the line.

Every time I go there, all the food is great. So this is one of my favorites to go to Benihana's, me and Melma Gordon. And he just kept looking at me like, damn, bro. He kept saying like, damn, bro, you really going. And I'm like, yeah, bro. Like, I'm really going. I fell asleep. I had a real early flight to go to L.A.

And I remember falling asleep and I woke up the next morning to catch my flight. And I was like, damn, this is real. Like, I'm really going to L.A. I hopped on a flight. When I got on the plane, I was like, man, like, I'm taking off. I'm watching all like the little mountains. And I'm telling him like, hey, man, like, when I land this plane,

I'm done with this Demo Rocco stuff. I'm just going to compartmentalize it. I'm not going to look back on it like that chapter of my life is done. When I land in L.A., I'm a Los Angeles Ram. I'm playing with Aaron Donald, and it's time to win a Super Bowl. So I fell asleep on the plane. And when I woke up, they had their social media team and the rampage, the Ram, he was there.

And everybody was so excited to see me. And I'm like, man, I'm a Los Angeles Ram. And I had spent so much time in L.A. I had spent some much time in L.A. All my friends and everybody, that I knew in LA, it was just, it was amazing, man. And, you know, we go win a Super Bowl. And you go win a Super Bowl that same year.

Yeah. And it really could have been a throw-up. Like, between you, man, Odell, Aaron, like, that first, like, it could have been an MVP tie for me. And Odell came the next week. So, you know, even if I did have like a little hangover from wanting to be a Denver Bronco, like, Odell came the very next week after that. The homies was there.

And it was like, bro, like, this is, this is where I'm at, man. I'm enjoying it, man. Like, we lost our first three games when I came. It was like, I left Denver. We was losing it. I go to the Rams and we lose our first three games. And then we got it together, man. And, you know, L.A. is always, L.A., whether you win or lose, man.

And I just remember feeling rejuvenated. I felt like the city of L.A. brought me back playing when Aaron Donald brought me back. Being on a competitive team, it, like, rejuvenating. me, man. And I enjoyed playing so far. It's the greatest stadium in our league, maybe even in the world, man. It's a great stadium. And that was my home stadium.

You've played in New Orleans. You've heard how loud our fans get. You know, Cam, it's not about loud. It's not about loud. It's so far it was never, it was never loud like that I'm just saying, like, brand new. It's a party. They got the

Boosy bellows down in the end zone. Like, it was, you know, it was bombing. Jay Z. And experience. Yeah. Because people go to SoFi to enjoy the experience. Yeah.

They're not screaming from their heart and their soul. They're screaming from like the top of their lungs. No. Yeah. I'll give you that. Even it was the Super Bowl. It didn't even feel like a Super Bowl. It felt like a dinner party.

Like it felt like you got all the rich people to hear to watch the best NFL team played and never really got loud. What a Super Bowl is a Super Bowl, man. No matter where it's at. man. It could be a Madagascar. You tell me. Look, you tell me. You can be in Madagascar.

Those juices going to flow, man. But it hurt at first. Being traded, it hurt. But that three months, I needed that, man. And it ended up being really, really good for me, man. Atio, too, which one do you like more? So it's kind of like, you know, I always say, like, it's like having two kids. Like, you got kids.

I got kids. I love them. I only got one son. I got one legacy returning. Don't believe me. You got two boys, you know what I got one boy, three, three girls. They're going to say their last name. I hear you.

So I got two boys. So it feels like they, I love them both, man. They're two completely different, but I love them both the same. Like, Val is my first born. Super Bowl with 50. I won Super Bowl MVP with the different Broncos. Super Bowl 56 victory. That's my second son.

And I got to play with Aaron Donald and Coach McVeigh and all these guys. Coach McVeigh, man, like, he is, he is a hell of a coach, but I feel like he is a, he is a, he is a, a veteran player's coach. He just understands what the guys need. He understood when we were tired. He understood when we needed a pep talk. He understood when we needed a day off when we need a half a day or coach McVeigh and the team that we had, like, you know, he could, he could do that. He could give us, you know, half days. And we would go out there and play well and win.

So it wasn't like, you know, he was just. just, you know, all my team, sorry, like, give them the Dell, so it won't be too too stressful. I'm like, we was winning. So he took the load off so we can go extra hard in the game. And it worked. It worked for it. And then you sign, I remember talking to you this before you signed to the bills.

You're like, man, I think I'm going back to the Rams. Next thing I know, you go to the bills. Yeah. I'm like, legendary six-year deal. And we talked, you know, we talked about it. Bro, you was like, I'm trying to play to year, you know, 18, 19, 20, boom, smith. You know, is that still the plan? You still, you still on that 18, 19, 20, years.

That is my, that is my, that is my, that is my, my humanly, that is my, that is my plan as a human being. You're my hero. You know, God, God has, my mom always said, if you, if you want to make God laugh, start making plans. So that's what I want to do. Whatever God has for me, I'm going to take with, yeah, I'm going to take it with my chest up and with my chest out and my head up high, man. I'm already beat the game. I'm already, I'm already won the game. Now we're going back for the extra little, like, incentives

to unlock this character and unlock this skin. Like, I'm already going to be the game. But now I'm just trying to, like, have total domination in the game. So with the bills, with the bills, it's obtainable, man. Like, we've got a great quarterback. We've got a great facility. We've got a great system. Being our gym is amazing, man.

And, you know, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen here with the Buffalo build. I will say this. If I end up having them to leave and if I get traded again or if anything else happens, I will say this. I'm done. I'm done. This is my last stop.

I'm not picking them back up and tying them up for nobody else. This is this is my last stop. So either I'm here for the whole six or whenever it's done here is done. I will say that. Oh, I'll say, so you play with, you play with Peyton Manning over at Denver. you, you know, on Super Bowl there, you play with Matt Stavre over at, over at the Rams.

For the long time, I would call him Matt Safford. I don't know why I messed up his last name. That was on me. Bro, that's something like, I don't know what I did to mess that up. And I was like, no, it's not. And I had real argument and they got corrected. But like, and now you're playing with Josh Allen.

You know, at the beginning of year, you said he's probably a front runner for the MVP conversation. Like, how do you feel about those quarterbacks? Is there a difference in terms of this huge, probably a huge cerebral difference from people? Peyton Manning because he's just one of the most brilliant minds in the game. Two of Matt's Affert to now, you know, Josh Allen. Is he still, one, do you think Josh Allen's still a MVP frontrunner?

And two, like, what was the difference between Super Bowl championship years and this year, year and now? So all three of those quarterbacks that you mentioned, they have some similarities and they're different in a lot of ways as well. I think the similarities, we would say they're all, they all have this, this, this, this, this persona about them. They all have like this, this energy about them that when they get out there,

it's never really over, even if it says it's over. Even if we're down by 17, whatever it says is never really over. It's just a moment. We're waiting on a moment for them to click and put together eight to 10 plays and the game will totally change.

All three of them have that ability to do that. And they do it in different ways, of course, but they all have that ability to do that. personalities they were totally different except for the energy component that I was talking about with all three quarterbacks Matthew Stafford was a little bit he was more quiet um paid manning he talked all the time but it was all business business business business and when you have that sense of urgency to go out there and win and the winner super bowl is okay if it's all business business business like I don't I don't mind it I just want to win I don't have no pride in none of this I just want to win and I think um with Josh Allen but he's

He's a D-Lomin, bro. He's one of the guys. Like, he's one of the guys. If you didn't know what position he played and we're just walking around and he, his personality will fit right in the defensive line room with us, Cam. Like, he's, he's one of the guys. He's going to joke. He's not going to take things too serious.

Like, if we win, we win. If we don't, we don't, he has his confidence about him that even if we do lose, like he knows. He knows the type of player that he is. We all know what type of player it is. And you're not going to win them all. And I would say the similarities to the teams that we have, the Super Bowl teams is, man, we, on all three of those teams, those two teams, the Denver Broncos and the Los Angeles Rams and here with the Buffalo Bills, we don't have, we don't have one on all three of those teams. We never had that, if I could, if I could say a lack of better words, we never had like a head in there.

Like that was all about his self and all about like his contract or him being hurt or him trying to win or him trying to. or him trying to go to the Pro Bowl. We don't have any of those guys in any of these teams. Like, everybody's all about winning. All three of those teams had a solid group of core players, whether special teams, offense or defense. And all three of these teams, we have incredible leaders. On the Broncos, of course, we had Demarchus Ware

and Peyton Manning and with the Rams. You've got Matthew Stafford. You're going to say you, man. And me. Yeah, you know, yeah. Yeah. With the rounds, we got Matthew Stafford and Aaron Donald and, and, and Andrew Whitworth, you know, big, big time OG voice in the locker room for us.

And when the Buffalo Bills, you got Josh Allen, myself, Diggs, Gabe Davis, Jordan Poyer, Micah High. So a very, very good group of high character guys, very good leaders on all three of those team. Bro, you brought up this chicken farm too many times. I need to know, bro, like, this passion. Like, I, I've seen it over the years, you know, back when you and Derek Wolf, I did a little, little interview about the chicken farm to, you know, you naming your chickens after individual players.

But you also have a huge passion because every time I see you got these, you know, you got these tight, tight jeans on about to go, about to go golfing. Which one do you enjoy more? Golfing, chicken farming. Because as much as you talk about these chickens, bro, I've seen you. Vegas and you always had your golf bags on. Like golf bag slum. All I'm going to is top golfing.

You out there hitting 18 holes. Can we got time? We got time, man. I swear to you, man. Like, it's nothing like golfing, man, especially when you develop your game and you start to get a little bit better. Now you can play like 18 holes and you can, you know, bogey the holes or whatever.

Maybe put together some pars when your game, when you start to develop your game, like golf becomes like so enjoyable, especially if you are there with your boy. even if I'm not out there with my boy I can be out there on anybody just by with me playing the game and the whole aspect of the the golfing outfit to the clubs to everything like I enjoy everything about call yeah so we're talking about what I enjoy the most whether it's football um chicken form or go we're going to take football out of there I'm not going to I'm not let me we're going I enjoy golf I enjoy golf I enjoy golf like I I if I could just if I could be the von Miller of the

golfing world I would I would take it. take that, I would take that in a heartbeat. But I love my job. Like, I love my job. I love playing football. It is, this is what I want to do. This is my childhood dream. This is what I want to do.

I'm living my dream. But there's nothing like golf. I enjoy, I enjoy golfing. And, you know, chicken, chicken farming is good, you know, and the financials are good. You know, money is always good. Like, I enjoy that. But if I don't want to be out there with chickens, you know, all day and on the chicken

farm all day, I'd rather be on a golf course all day if you ask me that. So I enjoy playing golf, and it's one of my passions for sure. Man, I enjoy top golf is what I enjoy. The chicken farm being, man, the chicken farm, I didn't grow up raising chickens. I didn't grow up on no farm. Like, I grew up hunting and fish. I started hunting and fishing when I was a little kid, but I never really was like a farmer or anything like that.

I went to Texan name. I'm not going to lie to you. I thought you always was a chicken farmer. I was in college. I took an easy class. You know, like most student athletes, I needed help with my job. GPA. Took a little quick elective.

Yeah, meat production one-on-one, poultry meat production one-on-one. It was averaging an A-minus. I take the class, and it is easy. Like, I'm falling asleep every day. Like, I'm sleeping in class. My professor would wake me up, though. He would wake me up and make me come to the front of the class,

and he would make me, like, regurgitate some of the stuff that we learned in class. And in turn, I started to listen to some of the numbers. And I'm like, man, hey, you go to college, we find your plan B. And I was like, hey, this is my plan B if I don't go to the league. You know, thank God I was able to go to the league and I was able to be a chain farmer as well. So it just started off by taking an easy class, man, for real. Chee. All right, come on.

It's Halloween. So I need to know, bro. Like, what's your favorite candy, bro? I need it. And what's your top two favorite candies? And what's your bottom tier? I would say, man, I know you're going to be a little bit disappointed in me. But I don't eat candy.

a candy. I'm not a candy guy. Like I, I, uh, you know, I never really, I never really was a candy guy, even when I was younger, but when I started playing football, like professionally, it was like, ah, if I'm going to let go, let go or something, I'm going to let go of candy. But, you know, I've had the occasional sour punch straw before. Like, you know, like, I love the sour punch. And yeah, you know, I also love, uh, whenever I was eating candy, um, starbursts. You can't, you can't lose with starbursts. anything like that. And I like the small package of the red vans,

you know, the red vines, licorice. And I would say that, how old are you for you to like liquor? I'm just saying, I was just said, when I did eat candy,

those were things that I like. And I would say my bottom tier would be just the basics. Like, I'm not really a, I'm not really a Snickers guy or like twigs or Reese's. Rhesus cups. Oh, man. They are they.

Overhite. It made my stomach hurt right now. Overhites. So you're okay, you'd be okay with candy corn. Young, young, and Ben running around the neighborhoods. Yeah, candy corn.

Yeah, candy corn, cool, man. It's cool, man. Oh, no. Oh, no. What about you? What's your top tier candy and what's your lower tier candy? Top tier, the little fun-sized snickers, you throw them in a freezer,

hitting on a different level. Then gobsoppers and, you know, skittles or something, you know, the sour punch kids. You know, they just banned skittles in Japan. Man. Yeah, yeah. Where are we? It's Merkle. Skittles go hard, too, then. I ain't going to sit here and act like I'm too good.

But I don't eat candy, but I, you know, I would agree with you on those, those candies here. Tusha. You still throw them legendary Halloween parties. Oh. I'm just saying, you know, from Denver Broncos, you had legendary joints. Let's do. So, you know, I did. I am very proud of, you know, my Halloween parties that I used to throw. Used to throw.

Yeah. I used to throw, man. That was one of my things, man. Like, I don't like to toot my horn on too many different things, man. When you try to put a function together, it's always top tier. First and foremost, man, I am a team guy. I can tube my horn on that. I am a team guy.

Not only do I know my teammates, but I love me. my teammates. And you just can't love anything. I spend time with my teammates. I know about their kids where they went to college. What makes them go? What doesn't make them go? Like background stories, man, I know everything about my teammates. So I can't chew my heart on that. And then when it comes time to entertaining, which that falls into being a good teammate. Knowing your teammates. When it comes to entertaining, like, man, like I, man, I can do that. I've studied the science of partying and entertaining. And I feel like I have, have that downpacked. And one of the things that really makes it go, like for, for me,

whenever I was entertaining was it had to be like, I give you, so I love Halloween for one reason. You can get all of these uniforms. Everybody likes to dress up and be somebody that they're not. And then you have, you have fun, you got the alcohol, and it goes late, and you got out your boys. Like, that's a function. For me, I've been sober for, I've been, I haven't had a drink of alcohol in about 98 days. So to have a really good party, you have to have, like, the alcohol element of it. And for me, not really a drinker either, man, not really, not really a, not really candy guy, not really a drinker, you know, so it's just, are you vegan now?

Like, what's up? No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm not vegan. It's just tapping into the vegan powers. To be honest, camp, man, you know, like, man, it's just something that I just want to try, man. Like, you know, the past for something we have, we have our, we have our, we have our, we have our beverages and you hang back, we've grown me in. But I just, I just wanted to try something, man.

I just wanted to try something new and different. And, you know, it's different when you got to be sober, when you got to stop drinking. It's different from wanting to be sober and wanting to not drink. And that's, it's where I am. And I got my kids. And I just wanted to try something new, man. Is it pointless sometimes?

Yeah, it does feel like that sometimes. But I'm just trying it, man. I'm just trying it, man. And I like where I'm at. man, to be honest. I think when I got traded, it was like, okay, like I can kind of let go of it. I think a lot of it was me whole known to the, to Halloween party, me not, uh, I had a huge, um, I had a huge, fomo problem, like fear of missing out. Like, I had a huge, I want to had a party like every single year. Then when you get traded, it's like, okay, I'm not like, I'm not

in charge of the Halloween party no more. And then we come here. The crazy thing is about it. When we came here, my teammates is asking me about it. It's like, so one, you're going to bring the Halloween party back in Buffalo, I'm like, I thought about it, but it's like, no, man. I'm the same to say those days are gone, man. It's same to say that those days are gone for me. That makes sense. Bro, I let go of the ox cord for the first time in like eight years.

Like, you know, locker room music, all that, have always sort of been in charge. Big boombox. I got them blast and I'm getting my guys right. Just like me, yeah. Man, and like this year, I was just like, hey, man, like, y'all play whatever you want to play. So now, you know, you got the DB corner that is strictly

sponsored by a young boy, you know, you've got, you guys. It turns into work, though. It really turns into work to try to please everybody in their musical taste. No doubt. You used to have white guy Wednesdays and like, you know, like slow down, slow down Fridays. You give out different vibes, Caribbean, Caribbean vibes, Saturdays. Have you thought about, have you thought about putting a DJ in the locker room? Have you, have thought about me? I've thought about it. I mean, Sean Sanders. Dion Sanders and what he's He has a, they have a DJ. I don't know if they have a DJ in their regular locker room,

but for every game, they have a DJ in the locker room that's playing music. You know what? If next season they make the playoffs and it becomes a winning formula, we may be able to integrate. I mean, just think about it, like, because before the game, you should have a guy in charge of the energy element of the game. Like, you, right. He's actually on a team.

His job is to get everybody hype. for the game. And we know football has a lot to do with energy, too. Like, if you have the right energy, you can go out there for that three hours and play at a level that you wouldn't normally play at. Before a game, what you listen to? Is there a specific song? Is there a specific ritual? What you want? So over my 13, over my 13 year career, obviously, you're not going to be able to have the same routine wherever you go.

You play in different stadiums at different times and, you know, different locations. game might be at 8, 15, or you might play at 1. So things, you know, things come and go. Part of my routine, some things come and go. But what I will say is I have to, what I have to do before every game, right when I get in, I have to put my pads in my shorts immediately. Like, while I still got on my street clothes, I had to put my pads in my pants. I have to put my phone on airplane mode. Like, right when I get in, I put my phone on airplane mode. I don't want any, I don't want to the urge to look at my phone under that. And the song that I have to hear

before each and every game is Phil Collins in the air tonight. And not just any, the specific time that I have to hear it, you know how we go out, with our pads on, they say, defense alarm to come out. We go out and we do our warm-up

and then we come back in. As we are walking in, I have to hear that song. Y'all can play whatever y'all want the whole time we hear. But when we're walking in from warm-ups, I can feel it coming in there. I have to hear it.

I've done that for every single game in a national football league. That was never expected you to be a Phil Collins guy before a game. I'm not. It's just that song. It speaks to you. That song. Because he was like, I've been waiting for this moment. My whole life has just put me in this mode.

Like, okay, I've been wanting to play football my whole entire life. But now I'm here. The moment is here. And, you know, I just kind of zone out and meditate. And I have to hear it all the way throughout the whole entire song. Like don't transition the song at the end. Don't cut me short. Let me ride.

Eight seconds left, it has to be zero, zero, zero, zero for you to change the song. When that happens, like, I'm cool. It don't matter about nothing else. I'm good. Okay. What about you? What's your game routine? Man, I don't know if I have one.

I usually got to calm myself down. So I'm playing like, if I'm too hype, then I got to bring myself down. I'll listen to Symphony number nine. Like, you know, if I, if I'm too low, I'll throw on whoever, you know, thug-a-thug-a-thug-I put on, you know, Broadway, Future, you know, big, big Toxic King, you know what I'm saying? Like, but at the same time, like right, right before we go out, you know, like after we do a group prayer, it's got to be something violent. So then, you know, it's either avenged sevenfold or it's young Marshall Mathers, you know what I'm saying? Eminem Kim type stuff. Or it's, you know, it's 50.

He sent, get rich, die, try, it's method man. I go into that, you know, that beast mode, like that's just that last activation. Like, all right, listen, we're about to put some hands on folks. Like, you know, me, I'm bringing hands of work, so somebody got to get blessed with these things. So I'm looking to strike first and then like, oh, yeah, yeah, time to pass first now.

So, man, like, I just, I got a, if I'm too hype, I think of that as a blessing. Like, I've been in the moments where you got to, where you feel like you got to, you got to add yourself up, But me being too hype, I love it, man. Like, I love being either neutral or too hype. I'm never, like, on the opposite side, like, where I got to hype myself up. I actually feel like it's a concert when we walk out.

I feel like, okay, because I've been in so many concerts and you see so many stars, so many big stars that have these stadium tours. And then when it's my turn, they'll be like, okay, like, this is my stadium. This is my concert. I'm going to perform for the people that's watching, man. I'm going to get sex, make big time plays that have changed people's lives. That's the type of mentality that I have out there. So it's always, I'm always on 10 and I enjoy being on 10 out there, man.

And Cam, man, like, you know, I've been a big fan of you since day one, man. You know, I can't, there's nothing that I'm going to tell you on this podcast that I haven't told you in person to your face, man. I love you, man. I appreciate you and your game, man. You're a family, man. You put family first, man. And that has been inspiring for me.

It's been motivational for me, man. You've done everything right, man. And I see all the commercials with you on there, man. Like I am so proud of you, man. And, you know, for the type of career that you've had from on the football field to off the football field doing podcasts and things like this, man, like the future is so bright for you, man. And hopefully we might have our own show when we get done and something like that,

man, be on ESPN and they pay us the same amount that we're getting paid right now to play football. But we just get to shoot after this, man. It would be great to have a TV show with your cam later in the future, man. But for now, man, keep doing you, man. Keep killing shit, man. And I'll always be a fan of you, fam. I appreciate you, bro. If you ever need me, if you ever need me for anything,

even if it's just like a little FaceTime for you to call one of your nephews or something, man, I'm open for it, man. I got you, man, forever, man. I appreciate you. Well, you've always been great like this, dude. Like I said, I appreciate you just for tapping in beyond that, bro, for, you know, being a beacon for other pass rushers, you know, edge rushers. Thank you for tapping in with me, bro.

For anybody that knows, you know, Vonn's a legend. I'm going to continue saying legend, just legendary. type things. Everything that you do, bro, on and off the field has been nothing short of amazing. So again, appreciate you tapping in. And you know me, bro. My line's always open. I ain't got, I ain't got any avenues you got to go for. You text me, I text back. I'm like, what's good? I'm in that thing. Of course, yeah, you do. For sure, man. He's not lying, guys. I don't hit him up and he'll get me right back for sure. But that TV show, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the book in, Cam and Vaughn. And we break down the,

the pass rush for every single game in the national football league. I'm gonna say the bookends, yeah. Or it could be, or it could be just, you know, we could take the Michael Strayhand Rowdy and we can have our own weather show. You know, we can have my own weather show. It don't matter what it is.

It could be me and you, man. Well, man, I'm open for it, man, and I appreciate you, man. You know, I just got my gaming computer from Hank, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, oh, I got a Vaughn special. Oh, okay. Man, he does a good job.

I'm on my gaming computer right now, man. I got the streaming PC. I'm doing a podcast on this, man. It's all love, man. Shout out hanged baskets, man. Appreciate it, gee. Facts, fact. Appreciate it.

Hey, Thomas, get my guy out, man. Man, my guy, Vaughn Miller is a legend. You know, everything that you want as a defense, as an edge rusher, let's be clear about it. Everything you want as an edge rusher, Bob Miller encompasses. We talk about great leadership qualities, but his get off, his bend, and just the amount of times he gets home. He's a disruption. He's a calamity, if you will, which I had to explain what that meant to my guide, Jamal Williams earlier yesterday, is what it is.

But he's a calamity, a walking calamity. Von Miller, I appreciate him tapping in with Off the Edge, the podcast. And that's it for the show. Thank you for tuning in, tapping in. I appreciate you guys for listening to me, listen to the podcast. Thanks, Vaughn, for always tapping in with knowledge. Appreciate it. I'm going to say, tell your friends about us.

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