The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - Belichick Hall of Fame SNUB, Giannis DONE with Bucks? + top LANDING SPOTS | Nick Wright NFL/NBA

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.  Nick Wright discusses Bill Belichick not making the Pro Football Hall of Fame as a first-ballot head coach, the NFL world’s reactions, and the reasons behind it. Then, Nick weighs in on the latest reports out of Milwaukee where it seems the Bucks are finally ready to trade Giannis Antetokounmpo. Nick discusses the rumors surrounding the top trade partners for the Bucks' star including the New York Knicks and Golden State Warriors. After, Nick recaps the NFL coaching carousel, with the Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills, Baltimore Ravens, and Pittsburgh Steelers landing new head coaches. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Or I'm sure there's a third podcast streaming app that I'm just not familiar with. Wherever you want to listen to it, the audio-only version that helps us out. All right, Damanzi, let's talk all the fame. All right. So reports came out that Bill Belichick was snubbed from the Hall of Fame. And from the outside looking in, like a newer fan like myself, Belichick isn't getting in. It's a little weird at all of his accomplishments. What do you make of the situation?

So, you know, it's really interesting. I didn't know you were going to say that in the offset about a newer fan. But it is a intriguing angle to it because there are people, and you're 27 years old, your age, there are players in the league your age and younger that probably have no recollection at all of SpyGate. And I do not want, and I am not going to relitigate the ends and outs of SpyGate, I don't think that is a good use of our time. But the reason I bring it up is that is the simplest explanation as to why Bill Belichick was not a first ballot Hall of Famer.

And I understand Valle Grigorian, the columnist for the Kansas City Star who has a Hall of Fame vote, he wrote a column explaining he was one of the people that did not vote for Belichick. and it had nothing to do with SpyGate, with the cheating scandals, that it was simply, here is the way the Hall of Fame works, just so everybody understands. The regular Hall of Famers, the ones that Drew Breeze is up for induction, Larry Fitzgerald, the players that retired recently, they have this giant list of eligible people to consider. They whittle it down to 25 semifinals.

They then whittle that down to usually I think 10 to 15 finalists and then at most five people from that group make it There is then a separate procedure but with the same voters That consider five other finalists Those five other finalists come from three buckets they will consider one Contributed finalist this year that was Robert Kraft one coaching finalist this year that was Bill Belichick and three senior committee player finalists meaning guys who did not make the Hall of Fame through the initial proceeding but now are eligible again through the senior committee and those three finalists were Elsie

Greenwood, Roger Craig, and gosh darn it, put it in the dock. I forget who the third other senior committee finalist was. And the way it works is, for those five finalists, each voter can vote for a maximum of three people. Now, you can split that however you want. You can vote yes for the one contributor, one coach, and one of the one of the one of the ones. the players, one of the three players, or you could go two players and one coach or two players. Ken Anderson is the other player finalist that I forgot. Or you could go all three players.

Viagorean explained, he didn't vote for Belichick and it was because he thought those three players were Hall of Fame worthy, that if they didn't get in now, they were likely never going to get in, he thought, because. they're not guaranteed to be the three finalists next year. And so he uses three votes for them. I think there is also the possibility that this was unintentional in this regard. That people in that room de Monzae were like, you know what?

I'm sure Belichick's getting in. So I don't want to use, he doesn't need my vote. so I'd rather use my vote because I'm a big Roger Craig guy and I think he's not going to get in. That could happen. There's a lot of different ways that someone who is a deserving candidate can lose a vote or two. But in order for Bill Belichick not to be elected, he would have had to lose at least 11 votes. You need 40 of the 50. and while everyone from Tom Brady to Jimmy Johnson to Patrick Mahomes to LeBron James to Troy Aikman,

everyone was unanimous in how outrageous Belichick's snubbing was. I saw the news and I said, well, I suppose I understand. And the reason I understood was because I read it as he lost some amount of votes because Hall of Fame voters felt like this was their opportunity and maybe for some people their responsibility to punish him for at least one of, if not multiple, cheating scandal. in which he was not only embroiled, but in SpyGate, adjudicated by the NFL to have orchestrated, benefited from, and he was penalized for greatly.

They find him the most the league can fine a coach, half a million dollars, and they took a first round pick from the team. Those were massive, massive penalties. and this my opinion on this might sound counterintuitive or incongruous. I hope it doesn't. If I were a voter, I would have voted for Belichick. Spygate was not to me such a mortal sin that it overshadows what is an unimpeachable resume of coaching excellence.

But I can feel that way while also understanding that others may not. I also can feel that way, and I do not think it is contradictory for many of the people. I would not find it contradictory

if the 50 Hall of Fame voters from this were the exact same 50 next year, and next year Belichick got in unanimously. Because I do think one could argue that if you were a Hall of Fame voter, you might feel like, yes, Bill Belichick deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, but we would like to deny him the... minted distinction of first ballot Hall of Famer. That that is the penance for SpyGate. And I don't find that outrageous.

Now, there is Demonsé a real knock-on effect of Belichick not getting in this year. Because if people understood and were paying attention to the way I explained, and the way the current voting process works, each year there is only one coaching candidate that becomes eligible. That will not as eligible, but that gets voted on. So if you are Mike Shanahan or Tom Coughlin

and you have hopes of being a Hall of Famer, or I guess in theory, Mike Tomlin could be eligible next year, but I would imagine they would make him wait because they think he might be coming back to coach. If you are one of those coaches and you assumed Belichick gets in this year and then next year, you know, maybe I'm the coach who's nominated and I could get in. Well, now that ain't going to happen. Because this year, the coaching candidate Bill Belichick didn't get in. And next year, the coaching candidate, Belichick will hold that spot, I would think, as the coach that comes up for vote every year until he gets in.

So there is a real knock-on effect to it. The other knock-on effect that is what I was getting at when you first mentioned this at the beginning of the show. I do think there is a generation of people, including active players in the league, that didn't know two things about Spigate and are now learning about it. That is like, wait, so what happened? And fair or not, that will put a slightly different light on that first half decade plus of Patriots dominance. And I don't think that's unfair. It happened.

That was, and I understand Jimmy Johnson saying, we all tried to do it and this, that, again, I'm not trying to, rejudicate SpyGate. But the NFL found out the Pats were doing it, told them to stop, and they did not stop. And then even in the 2017, there was a real sketchy, were you guys pretending to film a team documentary and actually filming the Bengals sideline

during a Bengals Bears game. game before they played you guys. That happened and the league had to step in. The Patriots played with fire, whether it be deflategate, which fell at Tom Brady's feet, Spygate, which fell at Belichick's seat, or any of the other things that were more allegations than proven throughout their run. and it is not nearly enough for me to be like vacate the trophies titles strip them of the banners i'm not saying that

not even close to saying that but i understand if a hall of fame voter said this is your penalty and i don't think it is double jeopardy nor do i think it is outrageous if the voters at the Hall of Fame said, listen, yes, we understand that this was adjudicated almost 20 years ago, but we haven't ruled on it.

We have not had our say on it. And we are therefore, and again, this is the assuming that this was the reason he missed out on, at you know enough votes to not get to 40 some folks said no that the cheating bothers us because i don't think there's any other realistic explanation as to why he would miss out on at least 11 of the 50 votes and i don't oh the thought that go ahead the other guys should get in you know thinking that bill check was going to be there next year and get this guy and now it's also i think you know making it a personal thing like that?

I just think is a little, is the guy first ballot or not? Like in that guy's case that he's saying that, oh, I wanted this other guy to get in. But in that, I just think that if the guy's first ballot is first ballot, yeah, I don't like that explanation. I don't like the explanation of I'd rather make this guy wait because

this guy might not get another opportunity. Yeah, I mean, I, again, everyone's entitled to their own process on it. I don't like that explanation. I, it's bad luck for one of those guys, but with respect to Elsie Greenwood, Roger Craig, and Ken Anderson,

if we are simply saying those two guys plus Kraft and Belichick, you can only vote for three of them and the cheating is not factoring in, then Belichick must get one of your three votes. He must. And then you have to go make a tough decision on the other two. Now, De Manza, you know I promoted the idea of this year putting Kraft in, and I think he might get in.

And then next year when Grunk comes eligible, either having Grunk and Belichick wait an additional year to win Brady's eligible, or the Hall of Fame, which is going to have to do a lot of, it would appear, because my opinions in the minority, you know, kind of PR fixing over the next few weeks and months. They could also simply say, hey, we're adjusting a rule, by the way. If you win more than five Super Bowls,

we are shortening your mandatory weight for Hall of Fame eligibility from five years to four years. So Tom Brady's eligible next year. and putting Grunk, Brady, and Belichick all in together. My initial idea was, and have the other three player spots go to guys who have been multi-time finalists or semi-finalists, Adam Vinatari, Rodney Harrison, Vince Wilfork, and have an all Patriots class. But at the very least, having Grunk, Brady, and Belichick all go in next year would be sick.

And I'm all for one-off rule changes that impact one person as a testament to their greatness. Like if they said, hey, new rule, any player with five or more Super Bowl rings, you don't have to wait the full five years. That's not, it's not going to be like, oh, my God, so many guys is going to apply to. Nope, Brady. And it was, it's similar. It's of the same thought process that if Adam Silver can. came out and be like, by the way, we changed a rule over the summer that in any circumstance where the NBA's all-time leading scorer is an active player, he is an all-star that year.

And by the way, that would only apply to LeBron right now and next year. I think these one-off rule changes can be effective. Because there can be-guides are doing stuff that hasn't been done before. And you don't have to, and if that rule ever applies to anyone else, it will be because of their, you know, unfathomable greatness. And so we'd be fine with it. And so that's my, that's where I fall in this. Now, I will say this. There are two unintended consequences of this Belichick snubbing.

One I find to be positive, one I find to be negative. the positive one is this. I think this is Bill Polion's emperor has no clothes moment. And I don't mind that. I've never been a Polian guy. Bill Polion hit the jackpot in his team had the number one pick when Peyton Manning was coming out. And then in my opinion, did a very poor job building teams around Peyton

to the tune of Pollyan's whole philosophy was, we're going to build the best team imaginable to play with a lead and to play indoors, which was awesome most of the time. But you were not always indoors in the playoffs and you did not always have the lead. And that along with Peyton's own shortcomings is why they didn't win as much. Bill Pollyan also is eight patient zero of what I consider to be a near decade long, outrageous Lamar Jackson discourse because he's the guy who said Lamar should play wide receiver instead of quarterback,

which then had a rubber band snapping impact on how Lamar is discussed positively and negatively today. And Polion has made a total fool of himself in this process. He told Sports Illustrated, I'm 100% sure. He's told Sports Illustrated, I voted for Belichick. He then half hour later told ESPN, I can't quite remember. I'm 95% sure. And then the next day, read a prepared statement on Sirius being like I voted for Belichick.

So Polion being made a bit of a fool of is just a happy accident of this maybe. The other unintended consequence to Monzae that I think is a bummer is for the guys who do get in this year. so Drew Breeze is going to get in Larry Fitzgerald is going to get in and whomever else does Robert Kraft is probably going to get in the story of the the 2026 Pro Football Hall of Fame induction

will not really be about who is getting in and it will be about who is not there and that's a bummer for them and that's you know that's the it just all everybody's talking talking about this one. Correct.

And so it does, and especially for those senior committee guys, like while it won't be accurate that all of them took Belichick's spot, it will be at least somewhat accurate that one of them did. And so, and we won't know who. So whether it's Kraft, Ken Anderson, Roger, Craig, or L.C. Greenwood, It'll just not feel quite right. And so that's a shame of it. Again, I think you should be in,

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What do we make? Yes. Well, so I don't, let me just start with the Knicks. I don't see how the Knicks can make an offer Milwaukee would be interested in because they have no picks to trade. They can give them swaps. So that's the one that I don't,

I understand why, Monzae the Knicks would want to do it, obviously. But I don't know why Milwaukee would be interested. But the Warriors, though? The Warriors and Jeannie Butler. I get there. Well, so that would be to, yeah, so here's the thing on the Warriors. The Warriors at least can trade picks, and Milwaukee might want to, you know, full-on rebuild.

So that to me, though, also like Butler and Cominga plus, let me see, the picks that the Warriors have available. So I think he was multiple first, I guess, but. So the Warriors can trade four firsts. They can trade their firsts in 26, 28, 30, and 32, and they can trade swaps. So they could do, you know, a massive, massive draft pick deal. And the Warriors could, they would include Jimmy Butler because it's the only way to make the salaries work. So I think it's basically the framework of it would be Butler and Kaminga for Janus and I think Kuzma. And that's how the salaries line up.

And then you trade a bagillion picks. and I don't I don't think that is a great deal personally and Milwaukee is in this weird spot remember where them bottoming out

does not benefit them because they don't have their own picks they have traded or swapped their next four years of picks in Milwaukee so them being awful it doesn't allow them to replenish it, which is why I have been promoting the Hawks trade, which the Hawks have this benefit of.

They have the first round pick next year, or this coming year, that is the better of New Orleans and Milwaukee, which will be New Orleans' pick, and they have Milwaukee's first round pick in two years. So if the Hawks were to move the trade I came up with yesterday, Chris Staps and former number one overall pick, Risa Shea, for the New Orleans pick this year, which might be the number one pick of the draft,

and Milwaukee's pick next year, that to me if I'm the bubush, is at least interesting, but the hawks are not listed on these teams. My issue with the heat, De Manzee, is I don't see a scenario why the heat would be in a much better position. The amount of money they'd have to match right from their team. Right. So like, what is this heat team going to look like once you have made? the trade to get Janus. The only first round picks they can trade are in 30 and 32. You're I guess you'd have to include Bam, but then it's just Janus and hero and like that to me does not put Janus

markedly closer to a title. So I there I really like the Hawks one. It's If that's not what Yannis wants to do, there are, there's a Rockets one that's interesting, and there is a Spurs one, both of which I discussed yesterday on the show, but we can discuss here. So the Spurs have, okay, the following picks that they can move off of. Atlanta's first this year and next year. Okay, that's interesting. Boston's first in two years. Dallas is first in 2030.

And Sacramento's first in 2013. So the Spurs can move five first round picks, none of which are the Spurs. picks, which is the key here. Like, if you're Milwaukee, you're like, your team's about to have Wimby and Janus and those great guards, your picks are going to suck. So the Spurs can include a bunch of potentially awesome picks like, I mean, the Sacramento picks a long way down the road, but an unprotected Sacramento first round pick is gold.

Who knows what Dallas looks like in five years? who knows even what Boston looks like in three years, and then Atlanta the next two years. That to me is interesting, and here is what I think is the most intriguing about the Spurs offer to Monzae that I came up with. They can make the money work without trading any of their young guards. Barnes and Vassell get the money to where it needs to be.

So you still have Fox, you still have Castle, you still have Harper. And that to me is, if Milwaukee's like, listen, we're going to rip it down and have these other team's picks to build with. We're being in Yonis on the court at the same time. It sounds insane. Would be bananas. So that to me is worth considering. Five first round picks, none of which are. the spurs picks and the spurs so the spurs keep their own picks and they keep their young players

that to me is a legitimate possibility and then there's the rockets one which the rockets have two potentially very valuable draft assets and they're in the same draft amaze not this coming year but next year they have Brooklyn's first and Phoenix's first Now Phoenix is building a little something but Brooklyn

is miles away And so The Rockets, that Brooklyn picks very valuable And they can trade Van Fleet And I think you would then have to include Shingoon.

You think the Stephen Adams injury might force them to try to be extra aggressive, for you? honest. Or it might make them hit the brakes. They might say, we're not quite as close. But,

Amen Thompson, Tarisen, Reed Shepard, Kevin Durant, Yonis, that to me is a real thing. real interesting. And Shingoon and Yon, here's the thing, I'm sure they wouldn't want to, and if you're Milwaukee, you get Shingun, who is a star, and Brooklyn's pick in two years, and you build it up from there.

And Shingun and Yonis, to meet Amante, don't really fit together, because now two of your five best guys are just non-shooters. And so that, that to me is interesting. and then I'm going to throw one other just possibility out there, okay? And this possibility is if this postseason goes poorly for the Thunder. So this would not be a trade deadline deal. But the Thunder are in this really weird position where over the last two years, they're awesome at full strength,

but they are oddly unbeatable when Jalen Williams doesn't play. They're 34 and 3 over the last two years when J-dub doesn't play. And he has a five-year max that starts in the summer. So if Milwaukee waited until the summer, could the Thunder put together? together a package of Jalen Williams at his new Max deal plus one other guy, be it Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins, Caruso, the other Jalen Williams, you know, whomever. And then they have so many picks. They have the Clippers first round pick this coming year.

The Rockets' first round pick this coming year. they have Philly's first round pick this coming year. They have in 2027, the Clippers first round pick. They have the Mab's first round pick in 2028. They have Denver's first round pick in 2029 and of course all their own. So the Thunder could, they're not going to do anything now and they should. but if this doesn't happen at the deadline, then I would watch OKC pending on how their postseason goes.

But those to me are Atlanta, Houston, San Antonio at the deadline are all so much more interesting than any of the four teams that the that have reached out to Milwaukee. And when we talk about, go ahead. Oh, I didn't talk about the Timberwolves. That's interesting.

So the Timberwolves problem is, they just don't have the draft picks. And so I don't know how you make it work. I don't know what package you can build. for the bucks that is super intriguing and the Knicks are in a very similar bucket where I'm sorry I'm scrolling my Google Doc about the future draft assets but then let me find where the Knicks are on here the Knicks have traded away all their picks and so all they can offer you is swaps and players. So, like, it would really have to be something close to, like, Janus for Kat.

And that don't make any sense for the Bucks. So I don't know how the Nix make it happen. Do you expect... Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Do you expect the Bucks to send Yannis where he wants, or just to get the most value out of him? I think the Bucks should ask Yonis what his five...

favorite destinations are and say we will do our very best to send you to one of those five but we can't let you what right we can't let you and you know what send us your five favorite you could do it a couple different ways but i think if it's like send us five places and we will work diligently with those five teams. But I don't think you can just let him pick. Because if he picks New York, you're just screwed. And I feel similarly if he picks Golden State.

If you're one of the big keys here is Milwaukee does not own their own picks. So that's the part that I just want to emphasize real quick about Milwaukee and what, you know, tanking and what it means for them before we move on. Here's Milwaukee's situation, okay? This coming year, they, this year, they will have their pick unless somehow their pick is a big. better pick than the Pelicans pick. But they'll have, and then they'll get the Pelicans pick. This year, though, they have their pick. In 2027, their pick goes to New Orleans or Atlanta.

In 2028, their pick goes to Portland or Washington with somebody else's pick coming to them. In 2029, their pick goes to Portland or Washington. In 2030, Portland. has the opportunity to swap picks with them. So 27, no, this year through 2030, but really 2027, because we know New Orleans is going to have a worse pick than Milwaukee this year. After this upcoming draft, if they either don't have their pick at all, or they're going to have to swap their pick for a worse one.

so just stone bottoming out does not allow them to replenish their assets as quickly. So I'm not certain he gets dealt before the deadline, but if he does, the teams that can make the best trades are Atlanta, the Spurs and the Rockets, and the Warriors and Nicks, I'm sure, And let me say one other thing And I don't know where you stand on this Demonse. I don't think that

the Warriors trading Butler and Cominga and I know Butler's out for Janice guarantees them anything. I still don't I don't know that I would look at them as favorites in the West

or even favorites to make the conference final. Just because of the drop-off of not having Jim Butler as well or just is just well yeah i mean that's i i guess i look at it like this let's just say kaminga's a zero for them right the warriors with a healthy jimmy butler were miles away from contention this year is the gap between yonnes and jimmy butler so massive and it's huge that it takes them from but it takes them from miles away from contention to championship caliber.

I don't think so. And I am, you would really be testing the limits of the Steph gravity when you're playing lineups of Draymond and Janus in Crunchtime. You know, as great as it. And so I just, I don't think that is as sure. Now, obviously, if you're the Warriors, you do it, but I'm saying I don't know if it's far from contention now

and then with Yannis, it'll just be like, all right, maybe they'll give somebody trouble in like the first or second round. That's how I would feel. I would feel like their ceiling would still be probably the conference finals. Maybe not. I'd have to see a play together and Janus and Steph together. It'd be unbelievable.

But I wouldn't look at that as a, it might be a juggernaut. But I also just, if I'm Milwaukee, I hate that trade package. What you're giving me is your picks and a guy with a torn ACL. And comminga, who you've been trying to get rid of like, I just, that's not a good package to me. All right, let's get back to the NFL. So at the end of Tuesday show, we got the news that the bills were moving their offensive coordinator up to head coach. So you've had a little bit more time to sit and marinate on that.

How much closer do you think this pushes Josh? balance of the Super Bowl. I don't know if it pushes them closer at all. And I'm always nervous about these. And sometimes it works out. But this first time head coach that I'm going to be the head coach and I'm going to call plays and I'm going to, like, it's a big job and not everybody can do it.

And it was just really bizarre to me. that the rationale for moving on from McDermott was essentially too much scar tissue and too many brutal, brutal losses over the last few years. So we're just going to bring someone in who was in the building and promote him. And also, I understand the defenses have been awful in these playoff losses. I get that and you want to hang that on McDermott. That's totally fair. He's a defensive-minded head coach.

But there's two pieces that shouldn't be ignored. One is, I expect the Bill's defense in the regular season at least to take a step back without Sean McDermott. But they knew that going in and they don't know who their de-coordinator is. Ratsheet a couple days ago, you know, lightly reported they were hiring Jim. Leonard. And then I saw yesterday, Jim Leonard's interviewing for a different defensive coordinator job. So they have not hired him yet. That's pretty clear.

So the defense would worry me. And here's the other thing about those playoff losses. Yes, the defense let you down. But the offense, which was called by Joe Brady, had the ball down three or in

overtime in each of the last three playoff losses and came away with a total of zero points. And that guy's now the head coach. And so I would be a little nervous if I were the bills. I understand moving on from Sean McDermott, but it's a real risk. And so it would make me anxious.

Let's go to the AFC North coaching stuff before we keep going. A bunch of coaching stuff going on the AFC North. So the Steelers now have Mike McCarthy. We got Jesse Mentor, the Ravens, and now the Browns have our old O.C. Todd Monkin. What do you think the hierarchy in the AFC North should be with all this stuff going on? I think it is very clearly Ravens won. Very clearly Brown's last.

Oh, okay. And then I'm sorry. And then I'm not. I don't know right now. Steelers or Bengals too. Because, listen, Mike McCarthy, you can say there's a ceiling and, like, they're going to be well-coached.

And he's going to get good play from the quarterback position. Now, I don't like the idea at all of them bringing back Rogers, but I don't think that's a fate accompli. And the Bengals are just, you know, running it back once again. And so, listen, this is to me, DeMonsay, good. The other, we'll see how good Jesse Mentor is. He was the hot name. If you were going to hire a defensive coordinator, be the head coach.

He's the guy you wanted, you got him. you know, we don't know, but be optimistic, right? So the, um, and so that's fine. The Steelers making it clear, we're not interested in bottoming out to try to draft a quarterback and, you know, building something that can be a contender. I think is good for you guys. Like the Steelers will just, you know, continue to be, at least for the time being, you know, okay but not great.

Not a threat. And the Bengals just running it back with Zach Taylor again is bananas. Coach in the division. Well, I don't know. I mean, I got to see Todd Mark and Jesse Mentor. And Jesse Mentor too. But the Browns, I don't even want to talk about the Browns. The Browns process is so flawed.

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That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down,

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So that makes it, you know, if you believe in Fernando Mendoza, that makes it an interesting job. And Mark Davis will spend money. So that's first thing. Sean Payton, firing his OC is noteworthy. And that's not that plumb of a job because you don't get to call plays. So maybe they promote Davis Webb, but Davis Webb, who thought he was, might get a head coaching job, you know, might be like, I want to go somewhere I can call plays. And that's going to be an interesting job to fill.

But the fact that nobody wants the Eagles offensive coordinator job because everybody, I think the reasoning is everybody is worried Suriani is going to be fired in a year. That is something to watch. That job's been open a while. They've interviewed a dozen people. They don't have it. and I imagine Clint Kubiak is going to end up in Arizona or Las Vegas, and then I have no idea who the head coach of the final opening is. All right, let's talk LeBron for a second before we get to the listener questions.

LeBron had his homecoming last night, and that was ruined by a 30-point blowout. But the reports, a lot of chatter about the calves potentially accepting him back into Cleveland. if he leaves the Lakers, where do you see him going? You see him going somewhere else? Listen, I don't think LeBron, I know he was very emotional last night, which made people wonder, like, is that going to be his last game in Cleveland? And it certainly could have been his last game in Cleveland. I don't think it's likely.

I think he plans to play another year. But when you're in year 23, like if, and you hate to even put this in, of the universe. But if LeBron suffered a bad injury this season where it's like, ah, rehabs, you know, six to nine months, then his career is probably over, right? Like if the, and so I think he recognized it was on the board. That was his last time playing there. And that's why he was as emotional as he was. But I don't think this is going to be his last year. And the Cavs, you know, at one point, seemed to publicly be like, no, we're building this.

We're good. We don't need Braun back. Because they won 50 games three years ago and then got clipped in round one. And then the next year, they won 48 games and got gentlemen swept in round two. And then last year, they won 64 games and they got gentlemen swept in round two. and they got gentlemen swept in round three. And this year, they're good, but disappointing. 29 and 20. If LeBron plays another year and it's not with the Lakers,

and I would imagine, right now my money would be on, he's going to play another year, and my money would be on, it's not going to be with the Lakers. It's just no insight, just my gut. I think there's only two real options, and I think it's the Cavs or the Knicks. Two teams that thought going into last year and going into this year, we have a championship caliber team and are now realizing, no, we don't. And say what you want. And listen, Braun was not good last night, but he is still pretty easily one of the 20 best players in the league and can greatly impact winning in a lot of ways.

particularly if he's on a team like Cleveland or New York, that certainly is a better fit for him than the Lakers is presently constituted. So my, I think him going back to Cleveland next year is a very real possibility for a farewell tour of sorts. And I don't think the NICS is off the table. All right, let's do some listener questions here. A Lakers fan in the chat are making packages to land yonautics.

Do you give that even a 5% chance of happening? Absolutely not. There's no way for the Lakers to get Yonis without trading Luka. And while for this year and this year alone, when Austin Reeves is fully healthy, Janus is probably a better fit on this Lakers team than Luca. You would be insane to trade Luke at his age with his upside for Yonis. And so they're not trading him, obviously.

So no, there's no way to get Janus to L.A. without trading L.A. without trading Lukin, that's not happening. Jordan asked, does this Belichick snub potentially make Sean Payton not a Hall of Famer because of Bountygate? Well, it's interesting. I mean, it's certainly a set of Preston. He might have to wait. And I don't think that would be outrageous. Again, I think Belichick's going to be a Hall of Famer, but he's just not first ballot. All right, keep going. Joey asked, DeMonsie, do you think the new Ravens coach can get the Ravens back on track? I like that he was the defensive coordinator for the Chargers.

I think that with Lamar Jackson will have the offense figured out. So that at the very least. But hopefully Lamar Jackson comes with it next year. But yeah, I do think there need to be a change. I'm not mad at it at all. Yeah, it was, I think it can be true that John Harbaugh is a good coach and also true the Ravens needed a change. and I think moving on from Harvall was good for the team's long-term future with Lamar.

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