The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - Best Of - Chiefs are BACK, Lamar's big game struggles, Shedeur Sanders self-sabotage, 49ers regretting Purdy?

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. Nick Wright reacts to Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs' dominant 37-20 win over Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, and the Baltimore Ravens in ...Week 4 of the NFL season. Nick breaks down why he's not surprised to see the Chiefs offense come back to life with Xavier Worthy's return, what's wrong with Lamar in big games, and how he feels about both AFC contenders moving forward. Next, Nick reacts to Shedeur Sanders' "silent interview" following the announcement that Dillon Gabriel will be the Cleveland Browns' starting QB ahead of their Week 5 matchup with the Minnesota Vikings after the team benched Joe Flacco. Is Shedeur sabotaging his own career? How has Deion Sanders impacted the early stages of Shedeur's career? Later, Nick discusses whether the San Francisco 49ers should regret signing Brock Purdy to one of the largest QB contracts in the league. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:15 Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right with Nick Wright, the best takes and moments from this week on the show. Enjoy. Where I am, though, Damanzi is fully relaxed and comfortable and relieved about the Chiefs. Let's get right to the game of the weekend. Yeah, so we all saw what happened on Sunday. Your Chiefs crushed my Ravens.
Starting point is 00:02:42 We were obviously riddled with injuries. Our quarterback went down very early into the third quarter. But she said after starting O and two... That is not, hold on. Your quarterback did not go down early in the third quarter. He went down at the end of the third quarter. the end of the third quarter when he tapped out when they were down 17. But go ahead.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You said your chiefs had the chance to rewrite history after starting 0 and 2. After this game, do you think they did so? Well, listen, they studied themselves. And the 0 and 2 start, what they had to do was beat the Giants. That was an ugly game that obviously turned on the tackle that turned the tide. and then they had to go take care of business against the Ravens and take care of business they did. And not shockingly, the moment the chiefs had close to a competent receiving core, the offense looked good again. The last, and we don't have to do this full history in depth, but it is worth mention.
Starting point is 00:03:53 that the Chiefs traded away Tyree Kill. Mahomes snap in an offseason changed the way he played based on the receivers they had. One league MVP. The very next year dealt with more drops than any quarterback, literally in modern NFL history, figured it out by the playoffs, won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:04:17 The next year, dealt with the most injured wide receiver and running back room in the NFL got all the way to the Super Bowl. And the next year, which was this year, walked into the season with his number one receiver suspended for six games and his number two receiver knocked out of game one three plays in. And it looked shaky for a bit. And I told you guys that I knew real like, I guess insight that that that Chargers week one game plan, Xavier Worthy was the epicenter of it, and him being knocked out,
Starting point is 00:05:00 three plays in, threw everything off. But this, the fatalism surrounding the chiefs from almost everyone else in the media was, and I don't want to be a scold, and I don't want to be more annoying than I naturally am, but it was embarrassing. And it was. It was. so fickle and so myopic, myopic, pardon me, as if they don't have a Hall of Fame head coach, a Hall of Fame caliber dec coordinator and the most talented quarterback to ever live that they couldn't figure it out. And it was as if they were getting boat raced in these early games or as if they were playing terrible teams and losing. Neither were true. Now I want to make this clear. I don't think the chiefs are, you know, quote, fully back if back means being the
Starting point is 00:06:05 highest scoring team in the league. I don't think that's who they're going to be. I don't think the chiefs have solved all their issues. I still think the running back room leaves a lot to be desired and their ability to get pressure on the opposing quarterback without sending a blitz at the moment leaves a lot to be desired. But you look, if you, going into the Baltimore game, if you looked around the AFC, the only team that really you could say had no holes to poke at it, was the Chargers going into week four, but they already were dealing with some potentially mounting injuries
Starting point is 00:06:55 that sadly they dealt with more of during week four in a game. They had no business losing but lost. And so the Bills were undefeated, but the Bills' defense had looked shaky, and they had and have played three consecutive games against just bottom feeders. The Ravens were given this huge benefit of the DHS. doubt despite having the same record as the Chiefs. And then every other team that had a good record like the Steelers or the Jags,
Starting point is 00:07:25 you had real reason to be concerned about. And so who's first, I mean, I don't know if this matters. Whose first slate of games? Who do you think has had the tougher schedule through the first four weeks between the Ravens and the Chiefs? I think it's been almost identical. Okay. So like they played each other.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So if we want to call, like, I, so call the Chiefs, game, you know, a wash, so to speak. The Ravens played the Browns. The Chiefs played the Giants. The Giants are better than the Browns, but the Browns have a better defense. You know what I mean? Call that a wash. And then the Ravens played the Bills. The Chiefs played the Eagles. The Eagles played the Eagles. The Eagles play, or I guess we could do Bills, Chargers, Eagles, Lions. You know what I mean? Like, I think the bills are a little better than the Chargers, but I think the Eagles are a little better than the Lions. So to me, it's very, very similar. Like, as far as what the opening slate was, now you could argue the Chief Ravens game being in Kansas City, like the Ravens having to go on
Starting point is 00:08:27 the road for that, tilts it. But the other piece of it that was maddening to me and has been even more maddening in the after. There have been two things that had happened in the aftermath of this game that really drive me crazy. And I had kind of a rough moment. near the end of yesterday's show on TV with Wilds yesterday. I'll apologize to him when I see him today. It's not really the tone of our show, but I got angry when I should know. And I mean, I don't think he took it terribly.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like, I think he might be surprised when I apologize to him, but maybe not. But two things have happened that to me are so frustrating. The first one is, I understand the Ravens during the game lost Roquan Smith and late in the game lost Humphrey and once the game was over, over, lost Nate Wiggins. But they went into the game missing four starters. And the defense already had been bad all year. Everyone knew that and picked them. That's fine, by the way.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Like, you can pick whoever you want, and I'm not acting like that game was a lock for the way it played out. The chiefs had full control, but, you know, something goes differently, maybe not. But to know the team has those injuries going in and then afterwards be like, well, of course Kansas City did that. Look at all the injuries on defense. It's just bullshit. It's that if your handicap going into the game was, I think the Ravens at full strength are better, but they're not full strength. Therefore, I think the Chiefs will win.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And then you see that game, you're like, yeah, that's what I thought. So be it. But that wasn't anyone's handicap. The handicap was, even with the Ravens' defensive injuries, the Chief's offense, with Patrick freaking Mahomes on it, and Andy Reed calling the plays, is so broken that they're not going to be able to move the ball. I mean, Vegas had them as underdogs as well. Correct. Yeah. Like, which is so, it's so, again, two and a half point underdogs at home to a one and two team that the two competent offenses that they had played move the ball at will. And so to then
Starting point is 00:11:05 Monday morning quarterback be like, oh, well, obviously this was going to happen. That's not what you believed. That wasn't people's picks. That wasn't people's opinion. The conversation going into the game was, who needed it more at Kansas City? Who do you trust more Baltimore? Good.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I watched Dorovsky do. The Ravens are built to beat the Chiefs. What? It's like, no, they're built to beat the Chiefs and the Bengals. They're just, they're not built to beat the, I think he said the Chargers and the Lions, something. I don't know. I,
Starting point is 00:11:41 It was consent. And the other piece of it was, and this is my other level of frustration, because while Ronnie Stanley did go out during this game, the Ravens' offense is healthy. And it was that, well, the chiefs aren't going to be able to slow down a Ravens' offense that no one's been able to slow down. They score 30 plus in every game. And that, of course, is not what happened.
Starting point is 00:12:10 and so that frustrated me. And the other thing that frustrated me, had nothing to do with Brewer Wilds, but it had to do with me listening to Simmons Pod as I do every Monday morning, listening to Greg Rosenthal's NFL DailyPod, as I do every day, listening to, you know, a lot of them
Starting point is 00:12:37 watching the Monday morning shows and all of it, And I was like, I could not believe that I was going to once again have to be, I guess, the bad guy in pointing out the obvious fact that this game turned on a totally predictable, yet inexplicable, horrific Lamar pick. and the Ravens were up seven to three with the ball on first down around midfield and Lamar retribled backwards and then threw up a prayer for no reason whatsoever. A guy who has, and again, people can be mad at me, but here are the facts of it. And every year, people get mad at me. And then every year, we get another piece of evidence that I'm stone right about this. And then every year, I have to listen to folks, stick their fingers in the ears and be like, nope, actually wrong.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Lamar's the greatest passer of the football we've ever seen is the highest passer rating ever, never turns the ball over. And all the big game playoffs, games against the chief stuff is just dumb, random luck. in the last 30 games, Lamar has played. He has multiple turnovers in three of them. The AFC championship game against Kansas City, the divisional round against Buffalo, and Sunday against Kansas City. I guess that's a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:14:33 In the last 30 games, Lamar has played, he has thrown seven interceptions, which is remarkable that he's only thrown seven. He had like a 50 to 4 touchdown interception ratio, you know, in the stretch, you move the playoffs. It was crazy. The interceptions are as follows.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Four regular season interceptions prior to Sunday. Three of which, we played the video, hit his receiver in the hands, and then either got like bobbled or stolen, one of which Bateman just stopped running his route. but four passes that did not need to be picked. The only three, in the last 30 games, the only three interceptions Lamar is thrown, where it's like, what the hell was that? AFC championship game into triple coverage
Starting point is 00:15:30 in the fourth quarter against Kansas City, divisional round game early against Buffalo, and the one Sunday. He also in those three games, had inexplicable fumbles out of nowhere. To pretend like that is coincidental when we once again saw Lamar throwing his helmet out of sorts.
Starting point is 00:15:58 It's just dishonest. And I know Bill Polion was mean in his commentary towards the guy eight years ago. And I know some of the worst, actors in media, sports or otherwise, tried to pigeonhole him as a wide receiver in a pretty nakedly at times racist way. I get that. And I understand because of that, there has been a almost protectionism and a want for
Starting point is 00:16:38 folks to see him succeed at the highest level. I don't disagree with that. But why do we have to pretend what is obviously true is not? Why do we have to pretend that this is a unique thing we haven't seen across sports our whole lives? The all-time great legendary player who sadly gets tight in his biggest spots and plays his worst, in his biggest moments. That's part of sports, man. And nobody was going back and taking away Peyton Manning's MVP's and his records
Starting point is 00:17:28 because he struggled massively in the biggest spots. But we weren't pretending it was coincidental either. Talked to the Peyton Manning face. Talked about how he got anxious. Talked about how his brother was like the bizarro version of him. a wholly mediocre player for giant expanses of his career, who somehow in the biggest spots played his absolute best. And for some reason with Lamar, we got to pretend it's not happening.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I got to, listen, I don't know this guy, but I think he does good work. I think he's a smart commentator. But I, Deonté Lee, at the ringer. Before the Lamar fumble, I tweeted, Lamar has basically gone two years without making that,
Starting point is 00:18:28 this was on the pick, without making that exact type of mistake, except for in the 23 AFC championship game, the 24-divisional round, and just now against Kansas City. Probably a coincidence. And Deonté Lee quote tweets it, right, nobody can identify the intrinsic traits of a winner and loser like Nick Wright. He is the seer.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's like, no, bro, I'm not, I'm not trying to tell you. I'm not trying to act like I look in a guy's eyes and can determine whether he has the it factor. I'm just trying to act like I've watched this guy's whole fucking career. And from day one, he has been a guy who in the postseason, or in these instances now when he sees Patrick across the field, plays his worst football. And we can act like it's a small sample, but he's played the Chief seven times.
Starting point is 00:19:34 He's played, I think, 10 playoff games. Like, it's not a small sample. And my frustration is, and again, so this is the other thing, DeMonzee, and this is what I'll say before we keep it moving. And maybe, DeMonze, you'll tell me this is unfair. I don't think, if I'm a Ravens fan, I don't think the thing that I came out of that game most disheartened about was the defense.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And the reason for that is, obviously, if the defense is this bad, they are drawing dead. You know what I mean? They can't have the worst defense in football. But what to me was so disheartening about it, if you're a Ravens fan is, you're now going to have in the back of your head, even if we get the defense fixed, when we get to these moments against Josh or Patrick, are we getting MVP Lamar?
Starting point is 00:20:39 Or are we getting throwing his head back, slamming the helmet, taking terrible sacks, throwing off his back foot Lamar? That to me is the concern. Today's show is brought to you, by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. If you love betting on sports or you just love sports and want to try betting, the Hard Rock Bet Sportsbook app makes it simple, packed with great insights,
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Starting point is 00:23:24 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Starting point is 00:26:19 No, I'm kidding. Oh, you tricked me. Hold on. I was about to say, DeManzi's bike's not working. I just want, I went to see if my headset got disconnected. That was really good, mouthing of the words. You totally tricked me. All right, good job there.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I mean, that's for watching, if you're watching on YouTube, you got the bit. If you're listening to us on podcast, it doesn't really play. But good job. All right. Go ahead. So Joe Flacco has been benched and Dylan Gabriel is the new quarterback one and Shadour responded to that news and oppressor and maybe Rex Ryan with a little bit of meaming or miming action.
Starting point is 00:26:59 What are your take or your thoughts on this? Okay. So let me give the audience the very short history of this, okay? A week ago, Chidor gave a somewhat innocuous but probably poorly working. comment when he said, you know, I'm paraphrasing, but I think this is going to be close to an exact quote. You know, I watched the league and I'm better than some of those guys out there starting. I didn't think it was a huge deal. I think it, I think that one of the reasons de Monzee that I thought that comment was likely to not go great for him was because one could argue
Starting point is 00:27:57 the starting quarterback in the league playing the worst was his own. You know what I? So if he was third string for the bills and said, you know, I watched the league and, you know, I feel like I'm better. than some of the guys starting. I think the exact quote was, if you see the quarterback playing the league right now, I know I'm capable of doing better than that.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Then I think it's less of a problem. When a lot of people felt like and feel like the Brown starting quarterback was playing the worst of everyone in the league, it could have been construed as an unintentional shot at Flacco. I don't think it was that at all, but it was just a little trickier of a spot. Does that part make sense, what I'm describing there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Okay. Then Rex Ryan goes on TV and makes a fool of himself. Yeah. Like, every time I see Rex Ryan, he's just talking about how much someone sucks. It's like the whole bit. It's that Russell Wilson can't play dead in a Western. It's, and his career's over. He says he comes at people like they're the reason, you know, every problem in his life that he has.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah, I don't personally like that his style. I'm just going to be transparent on this. I don't know Rex personally. I'm not. I don't want, please awful announcing, don't make this a Nick Wright of Fisreides. I'm not trying to do that. I'm just being honest. I think Rex like goes on TV.
Starting point is 00:29:40 It's like, this guy sucks. this coordinator's an idiot I do a better job with that bang I'm out of here and so I just don't love that let me put it like this he would it just he would not fit
Starting point is 00:29:55 on first things first you know what I mean but I mean different styles for different folks and I wouldn't fit on other shows whatever I'm really trying to be kind here but be honest with my opinion pretty clearly
Starting point is 00:30:10 and oh and one of the things he said he said two things that really struck me with the shador commentary one was he basically reported that shadore is not doing the work he was like get in there and study if i know this the whole league knows this it's like wow like rex ryan elbowing shefter off the breaking news beat like i hadn't i had not i had not not seen that reported anywhere that Shador's been lazy or not paying attention to meetings. That would be news. But the other thing he said was, you know, shut up and dribble. Not quite shut up and dribble, but shut your mouth.
Starting point is 00:30:59 So, Chador yesterday was asked about Dylan Gabriel being named the starter and about how he was not elevated to second. string because that's the other piece of news here. It didn't go typically if a veteran quarterback, not always, but I shouldn't even say typically, sometimes when a veteran quarterback is benched, he then goes to the bottom of
Starting point is 00:31:27 the depth chart. He wasn't a veteran, but last year when Bryce Young got benched for Andy Dalton, that first game, Bryce wasn't the backup. You know what I mean? Like it was, he went all the way down the ladder and then so there was an opportunity that it was going to be gabriel one
Starting point is 00:31:47 shador two flacco three that ended up not happening just gabriel and flaco flip shudor stayed three he was asked about all of this and he smiled and in my opinion looked like he always does which is charming and seemingly talked without talking, moved his mouth. And I actually wonder if a professional, I wonder if he was giving real answers. He was saying something there. Like, yeah, I mean, he was clearly, he wasn't like, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:21 just speaking gibberish. Now, I don't know if the sentences were, you know, an inaudible, I was told, you know, on TV, they told me not to talk. So this is me not talking. Or I don't know if it was. inaudible. I'm happy for Dylan to be getting this opportunity. I'm still working hard, but he was clearly saying sentences, but they were dead silent. And the reason I wanted to start
Starting point is 00:32:49 the show with it is because this is just a perfect, just perfect moment for today's media and social media because if you want, which I don't want to do, to kill Shador, it's an example of just want an immaturity. I don't want to kill Shador. And if you want to blindly support Shador, the criticism he gets from this will be an example. example, the kid can't win. He talks and he gets yelled at. He literally doesn't talk and you kill him anyway. I don't want to do that either because I'm not an idiot. What everyone, every adult has a responsibility to set down for a moment their purpose. and to ask themselves this honest question. If Shador was your best friend,
Starting point is 00:34:17 if he were your, I don't want to say son, because Prime has, I think, not helped him on this, and I'll get to that in a second. If he were your godson or your nephew, or you were his high school guidance counselor, who he stayed in touch with. And he called you up and was like, hey, do you see what Rex Ryan said about me? Yeah, I saw.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And you saw that Gabriel's the starter now, right? Yeah, I saw. So when they ask me about it, listen to what my plan is. I'm going to answer their questions silently. What do you mean? You're going to like write it down? No, I'm going to stand in front of the cameras and act like I'm talking, but not make any sounds. How awesome does that, how awesome of an idea is that?
Starting point is 00:35:15 All of us would say, don't fucking do that, man. It's a bad idea. Fair or not, bad idea. Why, they've told me I shouldn't talk. Buddy, here's all you got to say. You're asked about Dylan. really happy for Dylan. You know, he and I, obviously, same draft class.
Starting point is 00:35:38 We've been working together this whole time. Joe's been great to all of us. You know, it's coach's choice to make a change. And, you know, Dylan works hard. He's a really good player. I'm excited. You know, I'm excited to watch him. Well, are you upset?
Starting point is 00:35:55 You know, you didn't get bumped up to second string. You know, do you... Listen, I believe in myself. I'm not going to lie to you guys. and act like I don't. I believe that I will one day be a starting quarterback in this league. But my job right now is to keep doing what I've been doing, studying, working hard, being a good teammate, and hopefully, you know, we can get back on the winning track this weekend. That's all you have to do. Everything else is foolishness. And anyone acting
Starting point is 00:36:33 Like, acknowledging that him doing a bit in the locker room in front of the media as the third-string quarterback is good for him or smart or productive is a liar. It's also not the third-string quarterback apparently. What do you mean? Well, it was Joe, and then it was Dylan, and then they moved him down below Joe again. Like, why do they do that? He is still third string. Like, no, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, he's third again.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah. No, he's, yeah, he stayed third. He didn't. No, they, listen, I don't, I don't know how he's looked at practice at this point. I don't know how he is in film study. I do, I, I know that. He played one preseason game looked awesome, played another preseason game, looked bad. I, like all of these.
Starting point is 00:37:41 So I don't know if in that building there are different camps like Stefanski is deeply invested in Gabriel, but the owner wanted Chador. And so I don't know any of that. I don't. None of that is relevant to this piece of it. Just control what you can control, bro. You are not right now. getting the opportunity to show what you can do on the field publicly. So all you can do is show that you can be a true professional privately or, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:33 in your role as backup quarterback. And this is what, and I did Cam Newton show a couple days ago, and Cam has real excuse me sympathy for Shador and Cam feels like a lot of what he like that you know Cam had a real hard time when he had to be a backup
Starting point is 00:38:55 and Cam felt his celebrity and aura worked against him at those things and I said this to Cam and I'll expand on it here one is while I respect the, I respect folks who believe Chador does have starting caliber talent and traits and will be a good NFL quarterback.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm not, I thought, a lot of people I respect have that opinion and fair, no problem. Cam was talking about him as if Cam and Chador were at all similar prospects. They weren't, man. like Shador is whether he should have been or not he's a fifth round pick and the other piece of it
Starting point is 00:39:53 that I really wish somebody close to Shador would really explain to him as this man you have maybe a shouldn't be this way, but it is. You have one of the only jobs left in modern America where
Starting point is 00:40:27 celebrity works against you. In almost every other job, I don't care what it is, if it's like, hey, I can do the job well. Also, oddly, I'm very famous on TikTok. That doesn't hurt you. It usually helps you. The only job where your bosses want you to be as anonymous as possible is back up NFL quarterback. And now maybe the organizations are, the organizations, are too stodgy.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Maybe that's stuck it. Maybe, you know, maybe that'll change. It ain't changing this month. And I do think we have seen over the course of these few months some of the reason that once teams, and this was the seminal moment, once he was not graded as, franchise quarterback coming out of the draft, top 10, top 15 pick, and he was graded as backup who could one day compete to be a starter. His job description changed massively, and he is still carrying himself as if it hadn't.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And I am not asking for the kid to be humbled. I hate that commentary. I'm not asking for him to change who he is at a personal level. I am asking for him to recognize that this shit works against him. and his dad, who everybody loves, myself included, Instagramming in response to this video, all these laughing emojis, and writing Good One, Son, you did that, is not helpful. Go to Monty, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I can tell you want to say something. Oh, no, I didn't know that. I didn't know that happened. But at the end of the day, you were one step. Like, I guess he was still third on the dev chart, but Joe Flacko getting pinched. You were a step closer in the direction that she wanted to be added. So there, it was unnecessary. It's just, and this is what's frustrating to me, and this is why I wanted to lead the show with it.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Because it is a, my favorite topics are when sports, a sports discussion is a microcosm for a bigger worldwide, you know, holistic discussion. There are going to be so many disingenuous fools that today try to act like, see, damned if you do, damned if you don't. You tell him to shut up. And then when he literally does, you criticize him for that too. As if we can't hold multiple thoughts in our head at the same time, and as if we're not all functioning adults. that recognize this was he was running a bit he is doing 45 seconds to stand up in the locker
Starting point is 00:44:16 room as the third string quarterback when all you've got to do is not not do a single thing that is going to add to the questions the media is going to ask defansky and then bide your time bro because Gabriel's not going to start the last 13 games. I don't think he's good enough. Listen, they are going to give Gabriel a real opportunity. There's no question about that. And Gabriel, they have a real investment in him. I just don't think Gabriel's good enough to run the table the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:44:56 So he should get a shot. He just has to be ready for it. I just, I really think. he is getting and people thought this was patronizing when i said he's getting bad advice they're like he's 23 year old grown man shut up monsie's 27 i give damonze professional advice all the time i'm 40 i call my dad for advice on things like the idea that because 23 years you're good right he's almost old enough to rent a car without paying the extra fee he's beyond advice is just idiotic Like, yes, he's allowed now at 23, he's his own man.
Starting point is 00:45:42 He can make his own decisions. He can take the advice and throw it in the garbage. I, and so, but the idea that you shouldn't have people in your life like, hey, man, that's a mistake. And I really like him. The thing is this, I think, I do think he's charming. do think he's talented. I do think he is well-intentioned. But I think there is a protectionism. He right now, to me, is in a really, and they're not a similar player, but he is risking entering the Tebow zone of your biggest fans hurt you where because you are such a celebrity and because they have more you are
Starting point is 00:46:49 you are not only a person anymore you are like a vessel for their own wants and desires that that works against you professionally and Dion and the last thing I'll say is this and this where like it's tough because you see your own kids through a parent's eyes you know what i mean through the and i i i get that deion's got to recognize man you could do this your son can't why because deon's one of the greatest players in the history of the sport and your son is not and he doesn't And you'd be like, well, Dion wasn't that until, no, Dion was. Dionne, Dion was, Deon, going into the draft was talking about, this team better not draft me, I'll bankrupt the bank.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Like that, like, guess what? People are like, all right, he might be a lot to deal with. But did you see the 40-yard dash time? Did you see him locked down the side of a field for two years at Florida State? Dion's like, I might play baseball too. They're like, we'll fly you out there, buddy, whatever you want. Dion had two things going for him that are very important that Chidor did not. One is he was a super-dooper star on the field.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And the other one is he wasn't a quarterback. Because as great as Dion was, if he were a quarterback instead of a cornerback, it would have been trickier. And so, Cam, was a quarterback and dealt with some of this. He was coming off the single greatest season in the history of college football. And so, like, he can, I just, I don't know, man. I, I legit worry that he is, he's, he's.
Starting point is 00:49:03 He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, like, wounded all the time. Oh, yeah, feelings are always hurt. And I think he kind of does it. not a deal with it sometimes. I shouldn't say, I don't know, man, but like, you know, with that type of stuff. No, I think that's a great take. The idea that he is for the first time in his football life, consistently being told, yeah, you're not good enough right now.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And when not only was he not told that before, he was the best player or second best player on every team he ever played on. Yeah. And so I think that I think there is something to that. I think the whole thing though, I just, oh, that was a mistake. By the way, if you're thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 pro designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever, but you're also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all your data. Good news.
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Starting point is 00:50:34 We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 00:50:53 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
Starting point is 00:51:12 where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
Starting point is 00:51:33 not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letter help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
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Starting point is 00:52:05 Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happens. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.
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Starting point is 00:52:59 I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jen she went. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface.
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Starting point is 00:54:00 if you're the Niners, you knew that you were playing Thursday this week. Pretty clearly was not 100% this past Sunday. They let him play anyway. The injury got worse. He now is definitively going to miss this game. And he's not even healthy enough to be like the emergency quarterback for them and could miss more time. I don't understand, especially because they did go 2 and O with Mack Jones, how they don't hold purdy out, DeMonse, this past Sunday, and then he gets four extra days before he would be playing against the Rams to heal up that toe, and then 10 days before the next game. You know, you could have eased him back in.
Starting point is 00:54:58 three games off and then he plays the Rams, then a mini buy before they play the next week. Now this is probably going to be a problem all year, which brings me to the bigger purdy conversation. Man, I said all offseason, why would you be in a rush to pay this player? he struggled at his worst year yet last year has dealt with some injuries and has no leverage whatsoever just wait and see they gave him 50 what three million dollars a year and now like it has been four games into the contract if they could wipe it away, would they? Of course. And I know that there is, it felt unfair because he had made no money at all as the final pick of the draft.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And they had been to a Super Bowl and been to a conference championship game and two of his years he had played really well. But you're not in the fairness business. You're in the football business. And the other, had they not paid him, and then this, you know, we see this opening month of the season, it's like, oh, Mac Jones, who is basically on the minimum, can be dropped into this offense without all the weapons, and it can function. Are we better off spending our money elsewhere?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Are we bet like do we need a 50 million dollar a year quarterback unless he's a true difference maker? And that's the other piece of this is we have so much evidence that that Shanahan system is relatively quarterback proof. Now listen, a healthy party is better than Mack and raises your ceiling. but does he raise your ceiling more than having three separate pro bowl level players that you could get with $50 million a year? I don't know that he does. So I have been, there are very few opinions that have spanned the course of five, six years that have aged better than my, I do not believe the Niners quarterback is as good as his number six years. that have aged better than my, I do not believe the Niners quarterback is as good as his numbers suggest. It's about Shanahan, the weapons in the system, then that take.
Starting point is 00:58:05 But once again, I think that takes going to age quite well. It also should be noted because people are putting out there the Niners wide receiver room. And I'm like, oh, I recognize those guys. Patrick Mahomes won Super Bowls with him. to Marcus Robinson, Skymore, Mark Wesvalda, Scantling. What do you expect anyone to do? I don't know, Patrick Bowman's Super Bowl. So, like, there is that.
Starting point is 00:58:32 All right, I know you want to ask me about Puka. Yeah, so where would you rank him amongst wide receivers? He's number one in yards, receptions, and yards by a lot. By a lot. Stafford loves him. He's on pace de Monzae through 16 games, not even. and 70 game season for more than 160 catches and the first ever 2,000 yard season. So here is, all right.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Here is the, it's weird to say, he has almost an ironclad case that he should be in consideration as the best receiver in the NFL. yet I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that he's better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. And I feel like he could have a 2,000-yard season, and I still would not be able to wrap my mind around it. But, you know, he's doing it with not great quarterback play. He's doing it under, I shouldn't say he's not great. quarterback play. He's doing it when he's not fully healthy. He's been able to just do it. And it's, I think he's playing at a higher level than Cooper Cup did. And so some of that is,
Starting point is 01:00:10 you know, when we saw Cooper Cup do it, now we're seeing Pooka do it, Stafford and McVeigh get some of the credit. But Pook is an unbelievable player. He is really an unbelievable player. and he certainly demands a has to be in your top five, certainly. I still think Jefferson's the best receiver in football, but Manpuk is an unbelievable player. Just an unbelievable player. It seems like a solid teammate as well. I mean, same thing with Justin Jefferson as well, but you know.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Yeah, but he doesn't, it doesn't seem like he has the like wide receiver curse, but it also helps. helps that he gets 15 targets a game. I think all these receivers be pretty happy with, you know what I mean, with those types of targets. Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it.
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