The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - Best Of - Chiefs in PANIC MODE, Giannis TRADE? Lane Kiffin doesn't get it

Episode Date: December 7, 2025

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.  Nick Wright reacts to Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs losing to Dak Prescott's Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving and breaks down why it's now or never for KC to save their season. Later, Nick runs through hypothetical Giannis Antetokounmpo trades and discusses whether the Bucks star has played his last game in Milwaukee. Next, Nick reacts to Lane Kiffin leaving Ole Miss for LSU ahead of the Rebels' College Football Playoff opportunity. Why is Nick tired of hearing about the situation?  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the 1021 podcast on the, the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right with Nick Wright, the best takes and moments from this week on the show. Enjoy. All right, De Manzay, let's get to it. The Chiefs are six and six. Chiefs are a rough spot. You've always said with a combination of Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes that they've always had a shot. But now your Chiefs are six and six in two games out of the wild card, not two games out of the arrowhead.

of the wild card. Yep. They have no, none of the key tiebreakers with the head-to-head teams. How worried are you at the state that Chiefs are in right now? Well, listen, I mean, you've got to be really concerned. The only way they guarantee themselves a spot in the playoffs is by winning out. And listen, some folks are, it is not a mathematical certainty that winning out gets them in. but winning out gets them in.

And so they are alive, and the AFC to me does feel as wide open as it has at any point in my life. Maybe since, oh, wait, the year Brady went down with an injury and it wasn't a great Peyton Manning year. and so certainly the most wide open it's been in more than a decade. So if they were to get hot, play their best football, get in, I think that they would be immediately the Vegas favorites to win the conference. The problem is getting in is going to be very difficult because of those tiebreakers they don't have that you mentioned. Now, if they were to beat Houston and then the Chargers, which are their next two, then maybe they could lose to Denver and sneak in at 10 and 7 because they would have a tiebreaker over the Colts, tiebreaker over the Ravens, which won't matter, and a tiebreaker over Houston. it. Maybe there would be a path there, but the only certain path is winning out.

And right now, it is very difficult to trust this team, even though Patrick's had at least a five-game winning streak every year of his career. It is very difficult to trust this team to win five straight because, quite simply, they can't get off the field. and this was a problem in week one against the Chargers. It was a problem against Josh Allen. It was a problem against Bo Nicks. And it was a huge problem against Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys where historically, what the Chief's defense would do really well is, one good run stop on a drive to put you in second and nine one forced in completion to put you in

third and nine and then dial something up to get you off the field all game long and all season and long. This team has been forcing third and longs and then been totally unable to get off the field. And that is why, despite Patrick playing at the level that he is, and he was brilliant on Thursday. And he's currently, he's third in the league in yards, fourth in the league and third. touchdowns for a second in the league in QBR the ESPN stat first in the league in the nerd

stat that I don't love a EPA he's having an awesome year but poorly timed turnovers by the chiefs in previous games and the total inability all season long aside from the cults fourth quarter against the Colts to make impact plays on defense might wreck the season. They are right now the fourth worst third and long defense in the league. They have the fourth fewest sacks in the league. They have the sixth fewest force turnovers in the league. That's why they find themselves in this position. With all that said, do you think that there was a move that they could have made during the trade deadline?

During the trade deadline to change that? Well, I mean, listen, the Eagles picked up Jalen Phillips. They could, like, he's the only real impact past rusher. They weren't going to trade for Quentin Williams when you have Chris Jones. And at the trade deadline, people wanted them to go after a running back. And by the way, they almost did trade for Breece Hall. But I don't, they need more. Listen, they paid George Carloftus this offseason.

They have drafted edge rushers. They're just, it's Chris Jones or nothing on getting to the quarterback, and that's a problem. And now you have this game against Houston to Monzae, where Josh Simmons, who's been an A plus as a rookie left tackle when he's been out there. He missed that month with the family issue. He suffered such an unlucky fluke freak injury that I don't know if you saw how he got hurt. He's blocking, I forget who, an edge rusher for Dallas. And the chief's running back, I don't know if it was Hunter Pacheco tried to help him to chip.

like where they throw the shoulder. Mm-hmm. And they missed the cowboy and hit him in the left arm and snapped his wrist. Oh, damn. So his own teammate just kind of friendly fire. So what is that? Is it two, three weeks for a fracture? No, I think it's, I think he's out a long, I think he might be out the rest of the year.

Um, but he's certainly out this weekend. Yeah. And they play, in my opinion, the best pass rush in the NFL this weekend. in Houston. Joanne Taylor will see if he plays. If he's just out, then they should be able to at least make due because then you have Jalen Moore

who you sign this offseason. If he and Joanne Taylor are out and you have to play Wanya Morris, who they have tried and tried and tried to make a legitimate NFL tackle, and just hasn't worked, then you're in real, real trouble. And so it is, it's very precarious. It's the most precarious it's ever been in Kansas City.

There's no getting around that. Now, with that said, I know myself, and I don't think it will be unreasonable or irrational that if they win Sunday, and I'm telling you right now, with that offensive line situation, chiefs minus three and a half are not going to be one of my picks this week. If they win Sunday,

then I will feel like, all right, beat the Chargers next week, and you're going to go, to another Super Bowl. That's how all feel. I feel like they're a win away from being a win away, if that makes sense.

Yeah, that makes sense. And so I have not, my hope, I have not given up hope or given up belief, but my confidence has been shaken because it should be, because they had to have the Broncos game and they lost. They then really had to have the Colts game, and it took a furious fourth quarter.

The biggest fourth quarter comeback of Mahomes' career to win that one. And then they had the opportunity against Dallas. And that's, again, I'm not going to bang on this. defense too much but three times this year de monseh the chiefs have trailed in the fourth quarter mahomes has led a fourth quarter comeback to take the lead and then they lost the game anyway three times via scott kasmar for context the third blown fourth quarter quarter comeback for Tom Brady in his career came in year 15, year 15, tapping three times this season. So it's the margins are that thin. And if there is one

game or one moment that to me just, stands out as if they don't go on this run and if they miss the playoffs by a game that I'm going to look back to, it will be up 14-0 against the Jags dominating that game. Trevor throws a lollipop up in the air. Two chiefs have a chance to pick it and basically end the game in the game and the first quarter. They bump into each other and it falls to the ground. They kind of laughed and like, you know, they're dominating the game. And then that led to a Jags touchdown. A couple hours later, Mahomes throws the 100-yard pick six. A little bit after that, after the Chiefs take a late lead,

Trevor falls down. Chris Jones doesn't see it. He runs it in. That's the difference right now, between the Chiefs being six and six and having none of the tiebreakers, and the Chiefs being seven and five and having a few of the tiebreakers. So that's how thin the margins are. You're saying like they're a win, there are one, there are two games away, even if you're saying they could also make the Super Bowl, if they do make the Super Bowl, are you still scared of those defensive problems with getting out the field?

Oh, I'm scared. I'll be scared. Listen, of course, listen, I don't think. that is those are going to go away what I what I do think is they have they are better than a six and six record and the AFC is wide open and if like again I have so you're expecting some teams to slip I'm expecting well a couple things one is I if they make the playoffs, it will mean they're on a five-game winning streak

and playing their best football of the year. So I will then, of course, you know, believe that they can get through this version of the AFC. And then to answer your hypothetical, if they were to then make the Super Bowl, they'd be on an eight-game winning streak. And I, of course, would feel like those things are solved.

It's also, and this isn't excuses, this is just reality. It's an unlucky year to potentially be a 10-win team. Since they expanded the playoffs in 2020, so we have five years of it, zero 11-win teams have ever missed the playoffs. Only two in five years,

10-win teams have missed the playoffs. And eight teams, and this isn't by winning a bad division, this is wildcard teams, eight teams with eight or nine wins have gotten a playoff spot. So if it were just a year, you know, but this year it's not that. This year the AFC is wide open, but there's not really a middle class. it's teams that are going to win 9, 10, 11, and then teams that are awful with really no,

it's not a glut of seven or eight win teams it doesn't look like, and that's going to make getting into the tournament really hard. With that said, all of this is predicated on, obviously, the Chiefs winning this weekend. So if they win this weekend, they have the same record as Houston with the tiebreaker, right? So that moves them ahead of Houston. They still would need to jump two more teams.

Will they play the Chargers who they're two behind, but the Chargers schedule is the hardest in football by a mile? Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans, Broncos. and Justin Herbert has a broken left hand. So again, if you're assuming chiefs can win the next two, that puts them in really good position versus the Chargers and the Texans,

and then you just need one of, actually you, no, that would do it. Wouldn't it? That would do it. Because the Steelers and Ravens take care of themselves. So that would do it. With all that said, I actually think the team most likely to full-on fall apart is the cults. I think the cults are mid-fall apart already. And DeMonse, if they lose to the Jaguars this weekend, they might not win again.

They've already lost three of their last four. their one win was in overtime against Atlanta, and their final five are at Jacksonville, at Seattle, home for the Niners, home for the Jags at Houston. And Sauce Gardner's going to be out. So the Colts, Daniel Jones has a fracture in his leg, sauce is out, Jonathan Taylor has slowed down. So the team ahead of the Chiefs most likely,

in my opinion to just fall off is Indy. And and so that's the the path for the Chiefs to make it at 10 and 7 is Indy falls apart and the Chargers fall apart

and then the Jags, Texans one team from the AFC North Bill's Patriots, Broncos, Chiefs get in. So, like, that's the, that would be the route. That's the path, but that's a, the only way to be sure they get in is win all five. And they have not yet looked like a team that's ready to go on a five-game winning stream.

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Today we're going to be talking about how possible it is that he's leaving Milwaukee. Do you think that's going to eventually happen? His agent and the Bucks were talking about his future there. Yana seems a little fake, too. What do you mean? I don't know. I feel like he says one thing and he always means another thing. Like, I feel like he did the same thing with the like Drew Holiday Trade.

I feel like he did the same thing with this offseason. He wants to be there. Like he kind of hasn't wanted to be there. the entire time. So this kind of goes back to the Lane Kiffin thing. It's very important in life to learn at an early age. Nobody gets everything. Nobody gets everything.

And there is, there are tradeoffs that adults have to make where, They do the old cliche pros and cons list, and you determine what matters most to you and what will make you happiest and act accordingly. And when you say Janus has seemed a little fake, what I think is causing that is he wants to be beloved in Milwaukee and doesn't want to play for Milwaukee anymore. And he, I think, recognizes those two things might be in conflict. Now, I don't think he would ever be reviled or hated in Milwaukee at large. He's a franchise legend.

He delivered them their only championships since Kareem. He has been a great NBA citizen and an even greater NBA player or vice versa, however you want to look at it. He's one of the 20 greatest players ever. All of that is, that cement is dry. But I think he understands that in whatever is left of his prime, which could be, you know, up to four years maybe. You might have that much longer in his prime.

This buck seems not going to be able to compete for anything. they have mortgaged and second mortgaged and taken out payday loans on the future and those bills have all slowly but surely come due and so i think it's pretty clear he does want out and i think it's also pretty clear he doesn't know exactly how to do that because he doesn't want to just straightforward do a trade demand but we are inching to it. So in today's NBA, and by the way, it should also be noted, last night, it looked like he might have suffered a catastrophic injury. The dreaded non-contact, look back, did someone kick me reaction, which everybody these days knows that is part and parcel with an Achilles tear, but we've now had back-to-back big-time athletes.

in a couple weeks have that exact reaction, uh, to what appears to be that injury. And for both of them, it was the far less serious, but still very scary calf strain. To what happened was Sauce Gardner a couple weeks ago, to have I'm with Janice last night. And so I talked with, uh, yeah, I'm allowed to say this. I actually, oddly, randomly, uh, No, I'm not going to say who it was.

I talked with one of the greatest athletes ever in real time about Tyrese Halliburton's Achilles right when it happened. And what that person said was in our game, the calf strain is the new, I think he said ACL. not in that you're out a year with it but it's the most dreaded injury and it's because there's no way this again this was this guy's opinion but he would know there's no way to rehab it you simply have to stay off it so i think janis like here's the thing that i think is noteworthy and why i wanted to start with this it is it is is very possible that last night was Janice's last game with the Bucks. That's on the board.

I might even go as far as to say it's the most likely reality. Because if he has to miss weeks, maybe up to a month, with a calf strain, and obviously he and Milwaukee are going to want to be incredibly cautious with this, then come December 15th, you know, that's 11 days away. And that's when everybody who signed this offseason is eligible to be traded. More people are eligible to be traded starting the beginning of January. And this just could happen. in the next month.

And at this point, I think it is going to happen in the next month. Where do you think would be the best landing spot for them? So ESPN credit to them did a good job putting together five trades. And this is why I really want to credit them. Because with the new CBA and the aprons, it is very, difficult to construct trades that actually work. So these five ESPN trades, Bobby Marks, has given them the stamp of, yes, the CBA would allow it. The off the board, most interesting one, that I actually think might be the most win-win, have a chance to compete, go on deep playoff runs,

and you could sell it to both fan bases, and sadly, is the least likely to happen, is Janus to the Hawks. So here is, ESPN's trade is as follows. Janice and Cole Anthony for salary reasons for Trey Young and Risa Shea So the number one overall pick from a couple years ago and Risa Shea, Tray Young who's got a couple years left on his deal And then some really juicy picks Most notably

The first round pick the Pelicans traded to the Hawks which keep in mind, here's why that trade is so interesting for Milwaukee. That first round pick, the Pelicans traded to the Hawks, DeMonsay, is the better of New Orleans's pick this year or Milwaukee's pick this year. Yeah. So what one of them's going to be down there. Right. What Milwaukee would then allow for is if by trading Janus,

you fall apart in the short term, you then have the Pelicans ping pong balls and your own ping pong balls, right? Right. And whichever is the best of those two, you get that pick in this draft. Atlanta also has 2027 first round pick,

top four protected. this trade that is again well this is the worse of the pelicans in the bucks but maybe you could sweeten it to the better of and then a couple other picks so that to me is really interesting if you keep jalen johnson you keep dicing um milwaukee then can maybe flip tray young as well and Risa Shea was the number one pick of a draft and Atlanta, which is proven they're just as good

with or without Trey Young this season, maybe better without him. Janus Jalen Johnson, Porzingis, when he's out there to a very interesting team in a wide open east and with flexibility moving forward. So that's the one that makes the most sense for everybody. I don't know that I think that one is realistic in that.

I don't know if that's something Janice would sign off on. Yeah. And but I think that's the best Milwaukee can do. And it has seemed like Janice has wanted to play for a big market team. So the way that he talks. That might be hard, but. Right. And Atlanta is bigger than Milwaukee, obviously.

but it's not like the marquee market. I also think Atlanta is more attractive to American-born NBA stars than international. So I think that, but from a basketball perspective, you stay in the Eastern Conference, the team keeps really good pieces. I think there's a lot of reasons for it. The next trade ESPN brings up is the one we talked about all summer, which was Janus to the Rockets. Here's the thing.

So this is Janice and his brother for Shingun and Van Vleet, who's obviously out for the year with an injury and one first round pick. I don't love this for either team. Yeah. To be totally honest. I don't think that's quite enough, Demandze, if you're Milwaukee. As much as I love Shingun. that's to me not enough because you've traded away so many of your own future picks like you need more draft capital

and if i'm houston i'm like man i'm all of a sudden getting really old like i already have duran now i'm adding a guy in year 13 in yonnas ching boos promise younger yeah right i it doesn't yeah right now as is we of the number one offense in all of basketball, and we're doing it without a point guard because Shingoon kind of plays that. So that's just, if I'm Houston, and the other thing is, if I'm in the West, this year, I don't know that I want to push all my chips in this year, because I might feel like OKC's just sitting there anyway. So I loved that this offseason.

and I don't love it as much now. The next trade ESPN had, and again, I usually like to make my own trades, but the CBA is so restrictive, and there's only a handful of teams that this would make sense for, that it didn't make sense for me to, I would have come up with these,

everybody's talking about these same four or five teams, and if we're talking about the same teams, we're all going to be talking about the same players. So I'll just give Kevin Pelton and Bobby Marks their credit for getting this out there and crib off their work. The next one to Monzae is the Knicks. Janice and Sims, again, for salary reasons. Sims back to New York, by the way.

For Carl Anthony Towns, Colick, Diodette. So it's really Janus for Towns, plus a 2026 first round pick that won't be a first round pick because it's the wizard's pick that's top eight protected and where are the wizards so like that that that one's that that's a fake good pick like let me just look at the standings real quick yeah the wizard's where i thought they would be where they always are dead last so that that that the and then some pick swaps um And, and just really just pick swaps. So that's the problem. The problem for Milwaukee getting to getting Janus de Manzay, I'm sorry, the Knicks getting Janus. Is it really just Janus for town straight up with likely no extra picks? Right.

Man. That's a tough sell. Yeah. That's a really tough sell if you're. Milwaukee yeah go ahead well yeah it was what saying you might I think car Anthony towns is the better shot obviously Janice is a more physical imposing player but oh Janus is a way better player oh yeah would change you would lose shooting you would lose some spacing there's no

doubt about it but if the Knicks could flip towns for Janus and that's the only rotation pieces they're trading they become the overwhelming Eastern Conference favorites over the Jalen Brunson and Yannis running a pick like there's overwhelming I just they traded all those picks away for bridges um and so the only way Janice goes there is if the he says that's the only place I want to go and Milwaukee bends to it so there's two more the spurs. they can include a bunch of picks. And again, it would be a real negotiation.

Are you including Castle or are you including Dylan Harper? Are we trading Deerrin Fox? That's the one that if I were Milwaukee, I would be interested in if I could get Harper instead of Castle. And if I were San Antonio, I might look at it like this, man, I do not know how long Wimby's Prime is going to be.

Like I think that is, I think because of his size and already the injury stuff. I think that, like, you can't treat Wimby's timeline like Cooper Flags or like a traditional transcendent player. So basically saying he's untouchable when it comes to trading? I can actually think about putting him in or are you saying? No, no, no, no, no, no. I never trade him.

What I'm saying is I think sometimes when you have a great, really young player is not yet to his prime, you're like, let's wait to make the move. Oh, okay. So you're saying, like, move now. back no i'm saying accelerate i'm saying if you're san antonio it might make sense to accelerate because you don't know if in 10 years what you know your best chance to win might be right you know the next four years or something so that to me is an interesting one but again does yonis want to go uh from milwaukee to san antonio

And does Janice want to spend the end of his prime as maybe the second guy on a team? I don't know. And then the last one is Golden State, which I just don't understand why Milwaukee would do this. This is Draymond, comminga, and healed. none of which are at this point in their careers useful players like at a high level without Steph without you know somebody that creates the offense draymond super useful in his role but on a bad team and then a bunch of first round picks i totally get why the warriors would do this but i don't

I don't, I don't know why. And I don't know, I feel like Draywon going to another team. That definitely stunts it how much longer than he's in the league. I think they'd buy, yeah, 100%. And I, you know, Draymond, you would then maybe flip Draymond to a contender that could want. Right. Because he's, Draymond's still super useful if you're playing big basketball games.

Yeah, because IQ and all that stuff. But yeah. And so. and if I'm Milwaukee, I don't know that I want a bunch of first round picks from Golden State when I know Golden State's got that ownership, that coach, and going to have Janus, even when Steph is gone. So Atlanta's the best trade. Houston's the most interesting.

The Knicks are far and away the worst trade and would only happen if Janus demands it. And Milwaukee acquiesces. and then I don't see the Warriors and the Spurs one really depends on how aggressive the Spurs want to be. But I think Janice, my big takeaway, DeMonsei is, I think we now, it is more likely than not that the next, because of the injury last night, the next game Janice plays in the NBA will be,

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I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. for people could call in and say, hey Jonas,

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So there is something. Here's a little parental, you know, to tie in Damase being a new parent. Here's something. You don't have to worry about this for a very long time, DeMonse. But this is, I take this with you some parental wisdom. Okay. Because this to me has applied mostly, particularly with my daughters more so than with you. And really the most with Deanna, our youngest, which is you give them options, both of which are things they want.

It's not like, you know, be cliche. Eat your vegetables or clean your room. It's two things that they would want to do in. like oh you can go to the mall with mommy or you can go hang out with nana it's your choice and then they seem no matter what they choose to instead of being be excited about what they're going to get to do sad about the thing they're not doing and one of the things that i've said to your little sister a bunch is you i don't want to be harsh but you're not allowed to be sad about the choice if you're the one that's making the

choice like you are you have two options they're both good options whichever no matter how much wistfulness you might feel about not being able to do the other you must feel like you're going to get more joy from doing the one you're choosing that's why you're choosing it okay so like when when you have two really good options in front of you and you are the one who's making the choice sadness should not be associated with it because you are if it really is making you that sad then pick the other one like the you're making the choice that is a lesson that more adults most notably in this case Lane Kiffin and some of his apologists in the media never learned.

Lane Kiffin had two great options. Stay at Ole Miss, coach this team through the college football playoff, get a sick raise, get an even better contract, and be a legend in Oxford. or leave Ole Miss, go to rival LSU, get an even sicker contract for a more prestigious program, and have an opportunity to create a historic legacy while knowing that will mean abandoning your team on the precipice of the biggest games it's played in program history. Please do not cry these alligator tears about how sad you are or how tough this was. You chose to leave.

That is your prerogative. You are absolutely allowed to do that. but if it if it's that devastating of a choice then you should have chose to stay and you had to know there was a very realistic overwhelmingly likely possibility that if you chose to leave they were not going to let you coach the playoff you chose it anyway again the the ridiculous lawless college football world allows these things to happen in a way they could never happen in pro sports. You could net, like, could never, if last year before the AFC playoffs started,

the bills couldn't have said, hey, Andy Reed, we'll give you $30 million a year to leave Kansas City and come to us immediately. even if Andy wanted to they're not allowed to because there's a governing body in place. That doesn't exist in college football, so this is allowed to happen. And Kiffin made his choice.

So be it. Salute, good luck. I think it screws over the players a bit, but even though they're young people, they kind of know the business they're in in college football. It's the Wild West, fine. So that's my take on Kiffin.

My take on the common surrounding it is, listen, I'm not into all, everybody's like, oh, Jimmy Sexton, you know, has all these coaches, he's the agent, that actually is true. But then there's a lot of, and Jimmy Sexton works for CAA, and CAA represents these media personalities. And so they're conflicted out. I, listen, I used to be repped by CAA. That, that bag de Monzae, that you carry some of your electronics in is a CAA sports bag. I'm no longer repped by CAA. People throw a lot of like eight.

I don't think people totally understand how the agent stuff works. Like people, people seem to think folks in the media work for their agents when we are the ones who pay the agents, like the agents work for us. So I'm not going to get into the agent part of it. because I think that is a red herring. Here's what's not a red herring.

The amount of otherwise smart people blaming a grown-ups decision on an inanimate object, this object is the calendar. Oh, it's the calendar's fault. The college football calendar. It's just fucked everybody. here that's the issue you can't play you know of course lanes is going to take the best job and

it's the is the college football calendar a mess sure does that mean we remove agency from choices adults make like to again this is not a perfect example but i've talked you know somewhat about how one of my career, I don't even want to call it bucket list, but things I'd really like to do, but doubt I'll ever be able to do it, is be a part of an Olympics broadcast, right? So the Winter Olympics are around the corner.

And I, again, I have a real contract, not these weird college football contracts, so I couldn't even do this, but just stick with me for a moment. let's say the chiefs do go on a sick run and make the playoffs and then let's say they are we're staring at a divisional round of chief's ravens and then potentially a conference championship round of chief's patriots like the first things first bonanza and in the week of that divisional round

NBC calls me up and they're like, Nick, we want you to come to Milan. We want you to come be a part of our Winter Olympics broadcast. But obviously, you'd have to be done with first things first immediately. If I said yes to that and then Wilds and Brew were understandably upset, well, you can't blame Nick. Nick, it's this stupid calendar. Like, why do the Winter Olympics have to, you know, overlap with the NFL playoffs?

Like, if only it were three weeks later, it'd be fine. No, yes, it would, a lot of things in life would be easier and maybe better if we had them planned out. Like, I talk about all the time. The U.S. Open men's final being on the first Sunday of NFL football, I hate that. It's the calendar. Change it. Fine.

But again, choices adults make, weighing all their options, they must be accountable for them. And certainly, we're not going to blame dates. Like, it's just so, and the amount of water carrying that I've heard over the last week from folks that simply

it's like I like the too long didn't read version is either I like Lane Kippen or Lane Kippin is a source or Lane Kippin and I have mutual business interests whatever it is it's just embarrassing

and again I don't even kill him for the decision I think there's pros and cons of decision I happen to think he made the way riskier decision.

He could have been a legend at Ole Miss for the next 20 years. But it's not what he wanted to do. So, you know, the contract allows for it, fine. And... It's almost like Miles Garrett with the contract that he accepted.

I'm tired of losing. And then he got the money and he stayed. Yes. And then by the way, no problem. with it. But I'm not going to feel badly afterwards. And so

I don't I don't know, man. There's a level of shamelessness in some of the coverage of these things that I find. Just not acknowledging the fact that like he made his decision. He left.

He just made a decision. It screws over the Ole Miss kids a bit. He knew it. He was okay with. it we don't need to he we don't need to pretend it was deeper than lane kiffin did what he thought was the best for lane kiffin and was able to the he he would have been more sad about missing out on the opportunity to coach ls u then he is sad about leaving the kids at old miss you and missing out on the opportunity to coach in the college football playoff. It's as simple as that.

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