The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What’s Wright - Best Of - Jalen Hurts DISRESPECTED in QB Rankings, Nick ALL IN on Raiders to NFL Playoffs, Chiefs BIG CHANGES?

Episode Date: August 23, 2025

Nick Wright reacts to Jalen Hurts being ranked the 9th best QB according to NFL executives, coaches, and scouts. Is Hurts being disrespected after winning the Super Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles? Later, Nick ranks his top 10 QBs in the NFL including the Kansas City Chiefs' Patrick Mahomes, Baltimore Ravens' Lamar Jackson, and Buffalo Bills' Josh Allen. Later, Nick shares his favorite futures bet ahead of the 2025 NFL season including why he's all-in on Geno Smith, Pete Carroll, and the Las Vegas Raiders. Later, Nick breaks down why he has his doubts about Dan Campbell, Jared Goff, and the Detroit Lions following their 15-2 record last season. Lastly, Nick reacts to Patrick Mahomes saying the Kansas City Chiefs offense must get more aggressive downfield during the 2025 NFL season. Nick breaks down what has held back the Chiefs offense from being as explosive as it used to be and whether he expects Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Andy Reid, and co. to return to their old form. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right with Nick Wright. The best takes and moments from this week on the show. Enjoy. So the yearly top tens have come out. First off, we've got the quarterback, so executive coaches and scouts all vote on this. Patrick Mahomes, your guy was at number one. Weirdly enough, Jalen Hertz was number nine. Nick Seriano was asked about this and a affiliate carried Jalen Hertz to the Super Bowl. So you're only called BS. So what is this? Is this disrespectful? Obviously, Hurts has two Super Bowl appearances in the last three years. It's 37 and 10 in the last three seasons.

What's going on with that? Justin Hurdle was a problem? Yeah, so I do think it's disrespectful. And I think that people have to be willing to move their opinion based on things that happen after you have formed your opinion. Like, it is totally fine, and this is maybe self-serving of me to say, because I'm going to describe kind of my opinion evolution on Jalen Hertz. I think it is totally fine to be like, listen, there were times last season that I thought

the weak link of the Philadelphia Eagles office. was their quarterback. That, and that can be, that was actually the exact, that exact opinion of mine, it was the subject of the animated, more than a little awkward conversation. I had the night before the Super Bowl, or two nights for the Super Bowl, one of them,

with Jalen's mother, when she confronted probably too strong approached me and I at first didn't if you guys didn't hear the story we were at a Super Bowl party I'm standing there a woman walks up and she's like me ask you a question I said yeah and she was like why do you talk so bad about Jalen Hertz and then I'm like well I don't know that I talk bad about him and we and she's like no you do and then, you know, I give my defense of my take. She comes back and then about six, seven minutes into it. I say, miss, may I ask you a question?

She said, yes. I said, are you Jalen's mother? And she said yes. And I was like, oh, boy, we're in a, we're in a trickier spot than I had thought. And one of the things that I said to her, I was like, listen, I just, I want you to know the things I have said and the things I haven't said, right? for good or for bad. I was like, and something I have said that I'm sure you would think is totally unfair,

as I did call him the weak link of the Philly offense. I was like, now, contextually, you should know, I did say that within the framework of, they have a top three offensive line, a top three receiving corps,

and a top one, but top three running back. So if he just simply is not a top three quarterback, in that framework, he would be the weak link because everyone else is. But it, so it wasn't that I was calling the weak link of a bad team. However, I was saying last year that I thought they were going to get in a spot de Monzae when they had to throw the football and they weren't going to be able to throw the football. Like those, that was, and so that, and I would have last year. year had Jalen Hertz pretty firmly outside of my quarterback top 10. I absolutely would have. I don't think it is at all contradictory to then say, but then I watched the NFC championship game

and the Super Bowl and his performance in those two games by itself. made me totally reevaluate. And his consistent ability to play his best in the biggest spots, which is the most valuable trait a quarterback can have, made me reevaluate. And so I think people far too often get tied and married to their prior opinions. Coward's the best at not doing this.

And, you know, shamelessly is the wrong word, but almost like, he will have a adamant, strong, vociferous opinion. And a week later,

be like, change my mind. Like, and so, new information. Right. And that's what he said. He's like, I got new information. And so, and I think that so again we've got to be careful about what we've said and whether so if I said and I did not

but if someone has said I'm telling you this player will never be a top five quarterback then it is a little tougher you can still come back and be like I was wrong you know but it's a little tougher I don't think people at this point are fairly evaluating Jalen Hertz based on his ability to play his best in the biggest spots. And I think that that should whatever credit that people want to take away from him, I think fairly because he is not a guy that. over the course of a season, if you built the offense around Jalen Hertz passing game, I don't think you'd have an elite offense. I think, and I do think that's fair to ding him for. I don't think that the negative credit he gets for that, what I believe is a fact,

should outweigh the positive credit for the fact that we've done. seen him now on two deep playoff runs and you can't point to a single game on those two deep playoff runs where you're like a hurts wasn't good enough for them to win hurts didn't do enough like you just can't and he had to go two years ago toe to toe with patrick in a super bowl he had the one fumble which is why i thought patrick outplayed him but still he played an A minus level game. The offense scored 35 points. He accounted for four touchdowns.

And then last year, he had to go toe to toe with Jaden Daniels in a playoff game when Daniels was the hottest quarterback in the league. Philly's offense scores 55 points. And then in the Super Bowl, he has the fourth and five pass down the sideline. He, wait, I think he's the NFC. championship game, he had the fourth and five pass down the sideline. The Super Bowl was the kill shot start of the second half. He was great. And so go ahead, pal. So where would you have him? Like you, because you said you had him from the outside of the top 10 last year with the information that you have now, where would you have them? So I have a, I've developed a new opinion on how we have to rank the quarterbacks. I don't think that. It is fair anymore to say it's a big four and then we can debate after that.

That because, so here's to me where I'm at going into, and it can obviously change when a new season comes, like the new season has to matter. I believe the top three has to be in this order. Patrick, Josh, Lamar. I think that is the only, because what is the knock on Lamar? And at this point, there's only one left. He does not play his best in the postseason. And I'm not going to harp on that.

I think that is, you know, two years ago folks were mad at me. I was making too big of a deal of it. Last year, folks were annoyed with me. I was making too big of a deal with it. Going into this year, folks, begrudgingly without saying it's like, okay, yeah, Nick clocked this the whole time. That it was, and he shows some...

I was just about to say Lamar didn't play badly, though. Lamar played pretty well. You might have had a rough first half, but... Yeah, I mean, rough first half, the cost of the game. But it was still... I mean, you're right. It wasn't as bad as some of the other... But again, this is what I'm about to say here is actually a defensive Lamar.

The point I'm making is this, DeMonsei. I do not think it is fair to penalize Lamar so much for bad playoff performances that he drops beneath the player who has not been in the playoffs the last two years in Joe Burrow. Like for all we know, Joe Kuhl had his Emperor as no clothes moment with the playoff loss to Patrick Mahomes, and from now on in the playoffs, Burroughs just going to be a shaking shell of himself. But we haven't seen it because he hasn't been in the playoffs since then. Now, to be clear, I think the odds of that are almost 0% that Burrow all of a sudden

is going to freak out in the playoffs. My point is, you can't say Lamar playing poorly in the playoffs is worse than a guy not even getting to the playoffs. You just can't. And one of the other reasons that two years ago I had Burrow ahead of Lamar firmly was Lamar's injury risk. Lamar the last two years, aside from his annual bout with the flu. He's a little cold. Lamar's been incredibly durable and Joe's missed time and been banged up.

So I think it has to and the, I don't think. I need to defend Mahomes being number one. But the argument against him is he hasn't had the last two years gaudy regular season numbers. The problem is anyone you want to put up against him, he then has played in the playoffs and thoroughly outplayed and beaten him. So it's not just his team is won. He has played better than Josh in both the playoff games the last two years. He has played better than Lamar. He is, so it's just not, it's, Mahomes has to be won.

I think Josh right now, do you, DeMonza, you're the Lamar guy. Do you think it's fair to have Josh too? Yeah. I do. I think it's fair. I think it's pretty close, but yeah, and then Lamar after it's, it's fine. And we just beat him on the playoffs. Right.

And last, you know, Josh won MVP, Lamar could have, you know, the, so. So that's where, so here's my point and the reason I said all of that. I think it is fair. If somebody says Joe Burroughs four, by the way, I probably agree with them for the record. But if somebody says DeMonsei, Jalen Hertz is four. And what you're losing in the prolific stats, Joe Burroughs, Joe Burroughs, Joe Burrow gives you, you're adding in toughness, availability, the tush push, and huge playoff moments, and Joe's biggest accomplishment ever is being one-in-one against Patrick in

AFC championship games, and Jalen's one-and-one against Patrick in Super Bowls. So my, the point I'm trying to make is when you say it's a big four, you're saying you can't argue anyone outside of that top four is better than anyone in it. And I don't think you can make a credible argument, even with all the flowers I've given to Jalen Hertz right now, that Jalen's better than Lamar, Josh, or Patrick. I do think you can make an argument over Joe.

And I love Joe, but he starts here slowly. He does have, now Jalen has this as well. obviously. Embarrassment of riches on the outside catching the ball. And I do think that there is a, he probably has a, the fact that Josh, Patrick and Lamar are three of the most dynamic and successful rushing threats the position has ever seen has to count. And people might say, Nick, Patrick's not in that class. Not in the regular season. But if you look at quarterback career yards per carry,

playoff yard, rushing yards, playoff rushing touchdowns, if you remove kneel downs, Patrick's right there. And he's had iconic, you know, so that he's kind of more... Tactical with it. Choosy. Yeah. Say it again? He's more tactical when he chooses to run.

Yes. Well, and I just don't, he's not as fast as Lamar. No. And he's not as bruising and big as Josh. So he has to be more. So if you're here is what my rankings would look like if I were doing. I would go one Patrick, two Josh, three Lamar, four Joe, five Stafford, six Jalen Hertz, seven, with an asterisk of

it's probably too early but I give it to him Jaden Daniels 8 Baker and then it gets trickier. Did you say golf already? Did you say golf? You didn't say golf? I didn't say golf and I didn't say Herbert.

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I mean, that would be like one of my greatest achievements. I was not a hidden 73s in a row at that one time in 2017. Oh, yeah. We did. That's a sidebar. We can get to that in a minute. But it would be. great and it would also be awesome for some of de Monzae's high school and college buddies who are regular

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A couple years ago, I told you guys, one of my. favorite preseason win totals was the Broncos over five and a half wins. I can't stand the Broncos. And by the way, I think they're one of the most overrated teams in the league this year. It actually kind of plays into why I like this bet. But I thought that they were great value over five and a half wins. They ended up winning, I think, eight games. The sixth longest odds of any team to make the playoffs,

far worse odds than the Panthers. Better odds than only the Titans, the Jets, the Giants, the Saints, and the Browns are a team that I believe is going to make the playoffs, and I believe these odds are going to, between now and the start of the year, drop from plus 330 to like plus 290. And that is the Las Vegas Raiders. the Las Vegas Raiders going from a head coach in Antonio Pierce that was just out of his depth to Pete Carroll, going from maybe the worst quarterback situation in the league to Gino Smith,

with Brock Bowers in year two and Ashton Genty in year one, and Carol coaching up that secondary, and a last place schedule that includes games against this is not just all strength of schedule games, but on the Raiders schedule are the Patriots, the Titans, the Browns, the Giants, the,

I skipped over a couple, oh, well, ones that I won't necessarily think are easy, but you guys might. The Bears, the Jags. Colts.

I, the Texans late in the year, a team that I work, about a bit. Four games against maybe the slightly overrated chargers and the considerably overrated Broncos. Did I mention the Colts game in there? They have on their entire schedule, aside from the chiefs game, oh, they play the Cowboys.

Like, here's the Raiders schedule. Patriots, Chargers, commanders, bears, cults, Titans, Chiefs, Jags, Broncos, Cowboys, Browns, Chargers, Broncos, Eagles, Texans, Giants, Chiefs. They have three monster games, Chiefs and Eagles, five simple games, in my opinion, and then nine we'll see games. That team absolutely can get to nine or ten wins and sneak into the playoffs. And if the chiefs are in a good state at that year, at that time of the year, it could be a free game for them well that's the other thing if you are in the a fc west

you always hope that one of your two chiefs games is that week 17 chiefs game because about half the time the chiefs are resting people that week half the time they got to go for it like it could be bad let where oh man the chiefs need this game for you know playoff positioning but it about half the time they have everything locked. The Raiders, putting the cheese pretty well anyways, too, I feel like, pretty like they have they hang around with them. Sometimes, yeah. Yeah, and they beat them on Christmas two years ago.

So the Raiders, plus 3.30 to make the playoffs, that is my early first NFL season long bet. Lions are confident this is the year that they get over the hump with David Montgomery calling it. They're a year of reckoning. How do you see this season going for Detroit? I'd be a little nervous, DeMonse. So here's, so listen, I don't think, I think they have too much talent to be bad.

But here are the, to me, ominous signs, so to speak. First one is one that always matters. Lost both coordinators. Like, that is one that during a season. when a team is struggling, we're like, oh, change coordinators. But we don't do a good enough job in the offseason of, you know what I mean, reminding folks, lost Aaron Glenn, lost Ben Johnson. So that to me is first concern.

Second concern, their center retired. They lost their best guard in free agency. So it looks like they're going to slide their worst offensive lineman, who was their right guard last year, whatever guard Zeitler wasn't, over to center, and then be starting a second year sixth round pick and probably a rookie second round pick at their two guard spots. So they, where offensive line has been maybe their single biggest position of strength as of, you know, in this Jared Gough, Dan Campbell era, now that interior of the offensive line might be the biggest weakness of the team. And that can, nothing makes Jared Goff go from, man, Jared Goff has been really good

to pumpkin mode like up the middle pressure because he just doesn't have the athleticism to escape or be creative. If it's on time and it's what it's supposed to see, he's really good. But if you can get pressure on him up the middle, it can be really deadly for him. And so that's a concern. The tougher division this year to me is a I shouldn't say tougher because last year it was really good. Vikings were excellent. Packers were good. But another tough division. That's concerning. And here's the other piece to Monzae for a team last year that was 15 and 2. here's their opening seven games, which is before they're by. At the Packers, home for the Bears, Ben Johnson, at the Ravens, home for the Browns layup,

at Sincy, at the Chiefs, home for the bucks. Man. And by the way, it's just a schedule that you never can take a breath. Like there's their first seven, then a bye week, then home for Tampa, home for the Vikings, at the commanders, at the Eagles, home for the Giants, okay, home for the Packers, home for the Cowboys, at the Rams, home for the Steelers, okay, at the Vikings at the Bears. And so could I see the Lions going from 15 and 2 and the one seed to 10 and 7 in a wild card? Absolutely.

And so I think they're good. I think they're talented. Gibbs is a star. Having Hutchinson back will be great. But I don't look. I think the Lions losing both coordinators, the loss of the offensive linemen that they've had, I still feel like they,

I'm not as big on Jameson Williams as maybe others are. I wonder how that horrific playoff game has sat with golf all off season. I wonder how back to back years of just gut punch postseason losses, you know, has sat with them. All of that is concerning to me. And that loss last year was, we had a graphic on the TV show yesterday of number one seeds the last decade to lose their first home playoff game. And it was the Cowboys Dax rookie year, the Ravens, Lamar's first year as a full-time starter, the Titans with Tannahill,

and the Packers with Aaron Rogers in that, his second of last year there in the crazy like 13 to 10 game or whatever in the snow against San Francisco. go. So by the way, three of those teams the next year missed the playoffs. The Ravens made the playoffs and lost in the divisional round. So you have a 17 point lead in the conference championship game. You blow it. You come back the next year. You're even better. You're the one seed. And a rookie quarterback comes to your stadium and waxes you. And your quarterback plays his worst game in a couple years. That's all ominous if you ask me for the Lions. Do you think that's fair? I know you think you thought I'm a little too low on the Lions historically.

Oh, well, no. I do think that, I mean, you said they lost their interior alignment, but just, just Jared Goff as well. Like I thought it's like a, I don't want to say ominous, but a limitation to winning the Super Bowl. It's what it sounds like they're talking about.

And like, you need to see him, you know, win that playoff game. Or just like, that was a rookie that you got that done to by, but, but yeah.

And it was, and it was, I mean, Washington just outclassed. They were, blast them that game. Yeah. I mean, and that was the lion.

Now, the Lions defense was devastated by injury. And we know that. But I also am a little worried what version of Aden Hutchinson we're going to see at least at the beginning of the year. So I think all that's fair. Hey, guys, we're talking about my friends at Boost Mobile. Ever signed up for a phone plan thinking, wow, great price?

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. So Mahomes has come out and said that he wants Kansas City to get back to that deep passing game. what he had to say? I think for me, I've got to be better at throwing the ball down the field. I mean, obviously, that we weren't good enough there. We've had success in prior years, these last few years. We haven't done that. And in order for our offense to be great, you have to be able to complete those passes.

It opens up everything else. And so if teams are going to challenge us at the line of scrimmage, if teams are going to challenge us to throw the ball deep, we have to show that we can do that. And if we can do that, it first starts with me and giving guys chances. But if we can do that, I think it's going to really open up the offense and make us a better team in general. So with the combination,

of him saying that and Xavier were these comments from a little bit ago, if they can't do it this year, is it time to sound the alarm as a little bit of a problem? Because it's clear that they want to do it. Yeah, I think that's fair. That if they can't, so it's very interesting. So let me kind of go through the timeline of the Mahomes, what we on first things first call light show and the Mahomes eras, right? So obviously, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, it's just laser show, throwing deep, you know, all this stuff. 2021 ends with overtime against the Bengals, Mahomes throws deep to Tyreek Hill, hits Tyreek in the hands on third and long. and Tyreeks it in the air. Bengals pick it off.

Bengals go to the Super Bowl. Then Tyreep gets traded. 2022, with a Juju-Smith-led receiving core, along with obviously Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes throws for more yards in a single season than any player in the history of the league, is the first player to win League MVP and Super Bowl MVP in the same season since Kurt Warner.

and the Chiefs win their second Super Bowl, scoring 38 points against the league's number one defense in the Super Bowl. Okay? That year, they were a prolific offense, but it was a lot of short stuff. It wasn't so much bombs because they didn't have the personnel, but the yardage and touchdowns and scoring was crazy, so nobody really paid attention to it.

2023 there is and obviously I don't know if I said this part they trade Tyree kill you know after 2021 and so the offense changes in that regard 2023 the chiefs have you know their first bad two months of the Mahomes era they lose five out of eight I think it was um they have to play on the road the receivers set records for drops. And then despite that, Mahomes plays a perfect postseason, culminating in and back-to-back drives in the Super Bowl at the end of regulation and then in overtime that are just surgical dink and dunk short passes up the field resulting in the walkoff touchdown, right?

then last year happens and last year's a little bit of everything beginning of the year De Manzay Mahomes was just off if you remember it was like five games in a row where he threw a pick but they were they weren't

unlucky picks they weren't oh like he was trying to do too much it was like where were you throwing it like what did you see that you know it was very un-Mohams, like, but they won all the games anyway. They then, they went into last year saying, we're going to have, you know, a legitimate receiving core again. They sign Hollywood Brown.

They really liked what Rishie Rice was doing at the end of the year. They draft Xavier Worthy. And then by week four, Hollywood Brown's been out, hasn't played for him yet. Rishie blows out his knee. and Xavier worthy, God love him, but at that time of the year, if you remember, couldn't figure out where the out of bounds line was on the field. When they did go deep, Mahomes would throw it,

he would catch it, and they need to have a foot out of bounds or not get his feet and whatever it is. So you had Mahom's struggling for the first time in his career of his own doing. You had the most injured receiving core in football, where they have to bring Ju-Ju-Ju B. back after he gets cut from the Patriots. You also have a rotation at your left tackle position and the Chief's worst tackle play of the Mahomes era.

And then you also have on top of all of it, this quest for a three-p and this odd season where the defense kept as long as the offense didn't kill him and even when the offense did kill him. The defense kept him in every game and then Mahomes was my homes late and it seemed like he was just like you know what I don't want to I can't trust the offensive line. All my receivers are older. Kelsey's getting older. Yeah, all of this and I'm just going to dink and dunk and I'm not going to take any all of that. So it was a perfect storm of a boring offense for a 15 and one team. team. And that seemed, by the way, to change immediately come the playoffs.

Right. When they put up big numbers against Houston and Buffalo and then it all fell apart in the Super Bowl. So all of those things to me had to happen. The pressure of going for the three Pete, the rotation at left tackle, the wide receiver injuries, Mahomes, and again, fair's fair. I would imagine of Mahomes' entire career, the offseason where he was maybe, if we were to rank them from most dialed in to least,

I would imagine the offseason after the back-to-back championships, nobody, you know, the, we, everybody thought we were drawing dead, couldn't win on the road, and then I clipped everyone. And by the way, my best friend, is now dating the world's most famous woman and we're all partying together. You know what I mean? And maybe there was a little feeling of nothing could go worse than last year in 2023 for us.

And we won the Super Bowl anyway. So all of that to me led to the offense that we saw. So I would think and I would hope that none of these things. apply this year. So how dialed in will Mahomes be? Well, how dialed in has he been in the few seasons that haven't ended in massive success? Cut his hair. He cut his hair, but also 2018, lost in the playoffs.

The next year came back one league MVP. 2020 got the crap kicked out of him in the Super Bowl, came back and was awesome, and then had that bad half against Cincinnati, and at the end of the AFC championship game, and came back in 2022 and had one of the greatest seasons any quarterbacks ever had. So I think Mahomes will be dialed. I think the chief's getting Josh Simmons,

at Pick 32 as a potential franchise left tackle is as big of an offseason move as any team made. Xavier Worthy came into his own at the end of the year. Hollywood Brown is now healthy. They will at some point have Rishi back, and it feels like Kelsey should be a little sprier than last year. All of the, and I didn't even mention last year, the Chiefs were down to their fourth string running back so quickly. to bring back Kareem Hunt. So, you know, barring a spate of injuries or me being wrong about Simmons, I say all that to say, yeah, if the offense is mediocre and boring again, then yeah, I probably, where would I sound the alarm? Probably the coordinator.

because I don't think anyone's going to think, like, oh, my home's not good anymore. And so, but I don't think that's going to happen. And I think that there was, and it was such a weird thing to Monzae last year because it was, it would have been, the offense was not playing great. Mahomes was not playing his best. They had all these issues, but they had the best record in the league every single week of the season. So it would have kind of felt weird to be like, let's change it up significantly. You know what I mean?

What they were doing was working and they were peaking at the end of the year. And then it all came crashing down. Big debate last year. Say it again. That was a big debate. Like them playing all those close games. It was like, what's going on? But I mean, because you said that you would put it on the coordinators.

If you had to make an accountability pie on who was responsible, like if the on the deep game. Yeah, so, I mean, no, to be clear, I'm saying if it happens again, I would put it maybe on the coordinator because so last year to me, the single biggest, um, culprit was actually the tackle play. So that's, I attack, because my homes just didn't, because people don't say, ah, the receivers got hurt. And that's true. But I've seen Mahomes when he has time throwing bombs to Justin Watson and to Marcus Robinson. So I would say the biggest slice goes to the tackle play. which is why they made a big investment in that. And their biggest offseason signing was Jalen Moore.

And they drafted Josh Simmons in the first round. The second biggest reason would be the Rishi Rice injury and the other receiver injuries. The third biggest to me would be Mahomes not being as sharp as he wanted at the beginning of the year. And the fourth biggest would be just kind of the building pressure of the three people. Hey guys, it's us The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.

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