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Episode Date: December 27, 2025

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.  Best of Nick Wright's weekly reactions to Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs 2025 NFL season starting with Nick predicting Andy Reid a...nd KC to win the Super Bowl to Mahomes' ACL tear and KC being eliminated. Buckle up, it was a wild ride. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:57 Under Andy Reed, it has failed to happen one time, and they made up for it that year by winning the Super Bowl. The Chiefs win total. Getting even money over 11 and a half wins, that's an easy one. I will take over 11.5 and a half every day with Kansas City, 12 and 5 would disappoint me. I expect 13 and 4 or better. They are not going 11 and 6. The Chiefs, we don't need to spend more time on it. Everyone knew I was going Chiefs over because it is the right bet. I am going over with the Kansas City Chiefs. Our annual tradition, Super Bowl Exacta, three years ago, we had Chiefs Niners and the Niners found themselves in the conference championship game.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Last two years ago, we had Chiefs Cowboys, and the Cowboys found themselves with 12 wins. Last year, we had Chiefs Bears, and the Bears had a season from Helen miss the playoffs. This year, the Super Bowl exacta at 55 to one is, drum roll please, DeMaze. We got Kansas City versus Tampa Bay and the Super Bowl exacta plus 5,500. How about the, and then obviously, spoiler, Super Bowl exactly with the winner. Right. Kansas City to defeat Tampa Bay at plus 11,000. Indeed. So, Demonsie. Here's something I didn't even think about when I made this pick.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Brew mentioned it. The Chiefs with Mahomes have been to five Super Bowls. All rematches. Played Philly twice. Played San Francisco twice. The one other team they played, Tampa Bay. Another Super Bowl rematch. Bake show against Patrick?
Starting point is 00:05:02 revisiting the greatest, the craziest college football game ever played. Do you know about their college football game, Damase? Well, Mahomes and Baker against each other? Yes, you do. I'm sure they probably put each other up. Hold on. Well, let me, De Manze, so let me just tell you real quick, 2016, because they have played in the playoffs before.
Starting point is 00:05:28 All right, so the final score, De Manzay, let me, I'm just actually, hold on. me just go to Patrick Mahomes college stats. Final score was 66 to 59. So that gives you a little bit of a preview. It was Texas Tech where Baker started against Oklahoma. And hold on, where is it? Here it is.
Starting point is 00:05:53 The final stats are as follows. Joe Mixon was in the game. He ran for 260, okay, and four touchdowns. but that wasn't the story. The story was Baker. Baker was 27 of 36, only through 36 passes. For 545 yards, seven touchdowns, no picks. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Okay. Okay. Patrick, Patrick was 52 of 88. Oh, he was slated. For 734 yards. five touchdowns. They didn't have a running back? Well, no, they did have a running back go.
Starting point is 00:06:40 12 carries for 85 yards and two touchdowns. That running back's name was Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes in that game combined for 810 yards, seven touchdowns one pick, Bake show in that game, never ran the ball, through for 545. and seven touchdowns on just 36 attempts. Mahomes threw it 88 times. It is an all-time legendary college football game. Sounds like a phone.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah. Yeah. October 22nd, 2016, all-timer. And so they played in the playoffs before Patrick got hurt against the, when Baker was there in the Browns. And yeah, that's my. that is my Super Bowl exacta. I am not going to sit here and act like everything's fine with the Chiefs right now.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It isn't. There are some, I want to focus on the concerning things that have occurred in both games. Okay. So for instance, week one, the secondary, which has been a strength of this team, looked hugely problematic against Herbert and the Chargers. Week two, I thought the secondary looked really good, right? So, like, that's one good game, one bad game.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I'm not focusing on that. Here is what through two weeks looks problematic, and I don't know where the solve for it is. the Chief's running game is as inept right now as it's ever been since Patrick's been there. Pacheco sadly, just does not look like the same player he was before he broke his leg. And what's odd about it is his biggest problem through two weeks doesn't seem to be explosion. It seems to be vision and hitting the right hole. You wouldn't think that is related to a lower body injury, but he just hasn't been effective.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Kareem Hunt is who he is. If you need one yard, way more often than not, he will get it for you. But he has no chance of getting you 10. And they brought in Elijah Mitchell. Nothing's happened there. They drafted Richard Smith in the, I think, seventh round. He's a seventh round rookie. like they just right now don't have the horses in the running back room.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And that is a spot that I would not at all hate for them to be active on in the trade market. I think we have, there has been a lot of discussion of should the chiefs trade for Tyree Kill. The wide receivers are coming back. Okay. I if I were doing a trade with Miami I might be equally if not more interested in Devon A Chan like I think that there are you so running backs will be and should be available and that might be a spot that they have to bite the bullet and spend some draft capital via trade on so that's one piece and here's another one as good as
Starting point is 00:10:25 as Josh Simmons has been at the left tackle spot, Patrick still doesn't feel totally comfortable in his protection. Now, some of that's been, the left guard spot's been really problematic, but Creed's great, Trey's great, Simmons is really good, Joanne Taylor when he's not committing penalties is fine, and Patrick just seems like he doesn't trust it right now. And I am as confident in Patrick Mahomes as any player that's ever played in the league that he will figure stuff out. And there have been times this season where it has felt like he's out there. I don't want to say by himself, but nobody can get open. They can't run the ball, which has forced him to, and this is the part of the season that I have liked the absolute least.
Starting point is 00:11:18 It is forced him to activate playoff running Mahomes in, weeks one and two, and I despise that because it obviously it puts him in jeopardy, which is the biggest concern. But the other thing is one of the reasons he has had the postseason success that he's had, one of the reasons he has been so much more dynamic and effective statistically and from a winning perspective on a per game basis than any other quarterback in the history of the league come the postseason is because every single postseason, he adds a huge weapon to his game that is not there in the regular season, which is the quarterback runs, the scrambles. And if he's using that during the regular season, it has just multiple
Starting point is 00:12:17 concerns. One is he can get banged up. Another is you're not getting that auto postseason boost. like Josh Allen and Lamar are unbelievable runners at the quarterback position. They do it starting in week one and never stop. So it doesn't add an element to their game come to the playoffs. It has for Patrick. And the last, listen, issue on offense is the greatest tight end in the history of the league has had a really rough two weeks. There's no way around it. Third play of the season, I thought it was Zayb.
Starting point is 00:12:54 mistake. He says it was his mistake that he ran the wrong depth of his route and Xavier's hurt. Later in that game, he and Patrick aren't on quite the same page when they're down nine about to score. They don't connect on what would have been a touchdown. And then obviously the Eagles game, they're about to take the lead and he bibles a pass and it turns into a game changing interception. that's all highly it's been highly damaging i don't know if it's yet highly concerning but it's highly damaging okay so there there is that piece of it on the defensive side of the ball the only complaint i have after week two is they cannot seem to get pressure without sending a blitz like If they rush four, they just cannot get home.
Starting point is 00:13:57 So I don't know if that means the rookies, Ashton Jalot, or Omar Norman Lott need to be more effective. Certainly Charles Aminahue needs to be more effective. Mike Dana got hurt in this game. That didn't help. George Carloftus just got paid by this team. He needs to be more effective. Like Chris Jones is a man on an island at times. And so those are real.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Problems. Okay? And right now, the Chiefs don't deserve to be anything close to Super Bowl favorites. I'm not going to sit here and act like, ah, they got unlucky, they got this. No. If anything, it is surprising that they have had a chance to win both of these games when they haven't played well. They've missed kicks in both games.
Starting point is 00:14:54 They haven't forced a turnover. So that is the true and fair, sober analysis of where the chiefs are through two weeks. Anything past that is nonsense. Anyone trying to pedal, wow, should they be worried about making the playoffs, I think has lost their mind. now is the division for the first time in jeopardy yeah it when you're o and two and a team that beat you is two and oh with a divisional win it's understandable that the chiefs are no longer the favorites in the division de monse and where where does hard rock bet have a mat right now.
Starting point is 00:15:52 They've got them at plus 240 to win the division. Should you, should you hammer that? I mean, listen, as it's not surprising to you probably, I have a lot of exposure already on the Chiefs, you know, futures and season and win total. But I think plus 240 is good value right now. When I do, right now, if I had to pick it,
Starting point is 00:16:19 I would still pick the chiefs to win the division. What I do think, though, and I told this story on the TV show, I'm going to tell it again here, because having an encyclopedic memory about the Patrick Mahomes era for the Kansas City Chiefs can pay dividends. So let me tell you guys a quick story. In 2020, the Chiefs were the defending champions, went back to the Super Bowl and got blasted by Tampa Bay. the next year, not only did they start out three and four, but Mahomes had the first real slump of his career. This is with Kelsey, this is with Tyreek.
Starting point is 00:17:01 They get blown out by Buffalo. They get blown out by Tennessee. They then play the Giants and need a field goal with a minute left to be an eventually four-win Joe Judge Giants team. to get to three and four. The very next week, they play the Packers in the game Aaron Rogers can't play in because of, that's how we found out he didn't have the COVID vaccine
Starting point is 00:17:32 because he was on the COVID list. And Jordan Love and his first career start comes to town, and it's one of the ugliest games ever. And with two minutes left, it is 13 to 7 Kansas City, and Mahomes has played terribly. Okay? And it is third in 10,
Starting point is 00:17:55 and a first down wins the game, and they don't get a first down, and they could lose outright, and fall to three and five. And Patrick, play breaks down, Patrick scrambles to his right, off one leg, zips in a laser down the sideline to ice the game.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And I went on TV the next day, said, I believe that's the moment Patrick snapped out of his funk. I believe that is the moment that the Chiefs will be the Chiefs again. And the rest of the season, they lost one time and made it to the AFC championship game where they did lose to the Cincinnati Bengals. But the rest of it, from that moment forward, they were as good as any team in football. This year, they get blown out in the Super Bowl. They look terrible through two weeks.
Starting point is 00:18:53 They are playing the New York Giants. It is a tie game approaching halftime. Patrick attempts to swing past Isaiah Pacheco who runs in the wrong direction. The ball is live. It is about to be Giants 13 to 6 and the Chiefs are going to be in dire straits. And Patrick Mahomes runs down. the Giants player who's about to scoop and score takes the ball back from him, steadies the team, and from that moment forward in that game was Patrick Mahomes again.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I do think we are going to look back on that moment as the moment the chief steadied themselves. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We've created our... own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we, how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly
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Starting point is 00:23:35 and relieved about the Chiefs. Let's get right to the game of the weekend. Yeah, so we all saw what happened on Sunday. Your Chiefs crushed my Ravens. We were obviously riddled with information. injuries, our quarterback went down very early into the third quarter. But she said after starting O. And that is not, hold on, your quarterback did not go down early in the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It was like eight minutes. At the end of the third quarter when he tapped out when they were down 17. But go ahead. You said your chiefs had the chance to rewrite history after starting O and two. After this game, do you think they did so? Well, listen, they studied themselves. And the O and two start, what they had. to do was beat the Giants. That was an ugly game that obviously turned on the tackle that turned
Starting point is 00:24:23 the tide. And then they had to go take care of business against the Ravens and take care of business they did. And not shockingly, the moment the chiefs had close to a competent receiving corps, the offense looked good again. The last, and we don't have to do this full history in depth, but it is worth mentioning that the chiefs traded away Tyreek Hill. Mahomes snap in an offseason changed the way he played based on the receivers they had, one league MVP. The very next year dealt with more drops than any quarterback, literally,
Starting point is 00:25:15 in modern NFL history, figured it out by the playoffs. won the Super Bowl. The next year dealt with the most injured wide receiver and running back room in the NFL, got all the way to the Super Bowl. And the next year, which was this year, walked into the season with his number one receiver suspended for six games and his number two receiver knocked out of game one three plays in and it looked shaky for a bit. and I told you guys that I knew real like, I guess, insight that that Chargers week one game plan,
Starting point is 00:25:59 Xavier Worthy was the epicenter of it and him being knocked out three plays in, threw everything off. But this, the fatalism surrounding the chiefs from almost everyone else in the media was, and I don't want to be a scold, and I don't want to be more annoying than I naturally am, but it was embarrassing. And it was so fickle and so myopic, myopic, pardon me, as if they don't have a Hall of Fame head coach, a Hall of Fame caliber D coordinator, and the most talented quarterback to ever look, live that they couldn't figure it out. And it was as if they were getting boat raced in these early games or as if they were playing terrible teams and losing. Neither were true. Now, I want to
Starting point is 00:27:01 make this clear. I don't think the chiefs are, you know, quote, fully back. If back means being the highest scoring team in the league. I don't think that's who they're going to be. I don't think the chiefs have solved all their issues. I still think the running back room leaves a lot to be desired and their ability to get pressure on the opposing quarterback without sending a blitz at the moment leaves a lot to be desired. But you look to, if you going into the Baltimore game, if you looked around the AFC, see the only team that really you could say had no holes to poke at it was the Chargers
Starting point is 00:27:51 going into week four but they already were dealing with some potentially mounting injuries that sadly they dealt with more of during week four in a game they had no business losing but lost and so the bills were undefeated but the Bill's defense had looked shaky and they had and have played three consecutive games against just bottom feeders. The Ravens were given this huge benefit of the doubt despite having the same record as the Chiefs. And then every other team that had a good record like the Steelers or the Jags, you had real reason to be concerned about. I didn't really sleep last night. I didn't got up this morning, took your sister to school, picked your mom up from the gym.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I don't know if I said 10 words to either one of them. I then just laid on the couch, which I never do in the mornings and tried to like take a nap. That didn't work. You know how I can tell your mom knows I'm in a teetering emotional place? I could probably get, what is it? Well, here's how I know that she knows and that she's empathetic. because there were she's doing like a whole giant house cleaning thing prior to her birthday I knew it well no hold on there within the 90 seconds when I came downstairs there were three things
Starting point is 00:29:26 I saw her do that she had asked me to do previously and she wasn't even mad at me yeah I was like, oh, she legit feels bad for me right now. She's like, she, she is really showing a real amount of empathy because I was supposed to put those coffee cups away. I was supposed to throw that backpack away. I, and she's doing all of it. And she's doing with a smile on her face, which means she has correctly clocked that I'm not doing great.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Hopefully this will be my catharsis. Let's get to Monday night football. Shout out to Madre. So we saw what Trevor Lawrence did to the Chiefs yesterday. It was also his 26th birthday, and he walked out of there with a dub. What do you want to talk about first, your Prince's success or your Chief's downfall in this game? Okay. As much as I'd like to start with Trevor, we have to start with the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And here's the reason that game is so, so much more upsetting than, the Charger game or the Eagle game. And so much more upsetting than any recent memory regular season loss. One thing about the Chiefs being the Chiefs is they simply do not lose games like that. Now, they get outplayed sometimes. the offense we've seen over the last couple of years get stuck in the mud. They, you know, there are ways that they can lose a game and other people panic or, you know, talk about in what bad shape the team is in.
Starting point is 00:31:18 And I do not because of the full confidence that by the end of the year, Patrick will have figured stuff out or the team will get healthier or whatever it is. losing a game like that last night, they don't blow two touchdown leads. Every other team in the league, might. They don't. They did last night. While the Chiefs don't blow teams out the way the other excellent teams in football do
Starting point is 00:31:49 over the last few years, they just simply never beat themselves. And yesterday they beat themselves. yesterday is the first game in four years the chiefs have won the turnover battle and lost the game there have only been three games in the last four years where they have won or tied the turnover battle and lost the game week one against Detroit a couple years ago the pick six week one against the chargers this year neither team turned it over and then this week with a pick six um and so all of that just it it's just a horrible loss all is right in the world again
Starting point is 00:32:42 yeah pretty happy this he's aved it's just everything's back the way it's supposed to be you guys check the latest MVP odds who's the favorite Patrick Go on hard rock bet. Check the latest Super Bowl odds. Who's the favorite? The Chiefs. Everything is the way it's supposed to be. And what is so gratifying about this is we don't.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I thought the way this was going to go was all the folks that wrote the Chiefs a bit three weeks ago, we're going to have to answer for that commentary in January. Instead, because of how, even with the loss nine days ago by the Chiefs, because of how the rest of the league has looked and how Kansas City looked on national TV Sunday night, All those folks have to eat it immediately. We're not to Halloween yet. And they all have to be like, all right, I'm dumb. You're right.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I'm wrong. It's so good. It's so much fun. And the fact that they're winning this way with the offense humming back to, you're shocked when they don't get a touchdown, Patrick doing Patrick things. And they don't have their best offensive weapon, not named Patrick Mahomes yet. And then you just, you watch the rest of the league.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And we'll get to these games. But you watch the Broncos do everything they can to try to lose to one of the worst teams I've ever seen in the Jets. You watch the Chargers do everything they can. Well, great play at the end by the Chargers. But the Chargers struggle with a Dolphins team that seems to actively hate. each other. You watch the bills what they did last night, the Eagles that are ripping themselves apart of the seams, the lions we saw them play. And the other reason I'm happy is, you know the one team de Monzae that you can hold up next to the Chiefs right now and be like, hey, what's,
Starting point is 00:35:17 what are you, what are you going to say bad about this team? And I'm going to say, no, there isn't anything. The bucks. The books. Who are my pick going into the year? This guy, man. I'm feeling good. I had to eat it a lot those first couple weeks. I had to come on
Starting point is 00:35:37 here, talk about all these concerns. I had to listen to the great, my beloved Kevin Wilde's, act like Andy Reed and Travis Kelsey are not essentially family and worry about the fact that Andy Bumped
Starting point is 00:35:53 Travis, I'd do all that. And less than a month later, you know the other way I know we're back? Because we're back to the refs. We are so- The Chiefs are back. I was just about to say. Yeah, it's seen like the rest of taking a night off there. The level of whining, I expected from some of the media and certainly fans.
Starting point is 00:36:14 But did you see Kirby Joseph? First team all pro last year. Kirby Joseph for the Detroit Lions sent out 24 tweets. after the game whining about the refs. Get it together, Detroit. He's one safety. It was a study that came out. It was a study that came on.
Starting point is 00:36:33 By the way, I have never seen, can I just say something? That, that, that, that you tap, I paid the eight, and here's, so that you tap study, that by the way, no one has read. Everyone has just read the news article about it. You know how I know? Because to read that study, you got to subscribe to that journal, which either is going to cost a couple hundred bucks or you can pay $18 for 24 hour access. Guess who paid the $18 for 24 hour access?
Starting point is 00:37:07 This guy, hand up. Guess who didn't? Everyone else. It's one of the most ridiculous studies I've ever seen. The too long didn't read version of it is the chiefs have played the most playoff games and therefore their opponents have been called for the most penalties. That like give you it is, but, but I don't even give it. I, I, I, I don't care about that.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I do care about high leverage spots. Again, the games are on TV. 30 million people watch them. Find me, find me the, the call we're all mad about, but I don't even want to talk about it. I, I don't. I'm going to get, I'm going to get mad. That's not what today is for. It's not for the idiot.
Starting point is 00:37:52 in El Paso. The, so one lion's safety took the loss so well. He went on Tweetstorm, tweeting out Photoshop's of Mahomes kissing a rap. The other lion's safety took the loss
Starting point is 00:38:08 so well, he hit Juju Smith-Schuster in the face, and now he's going to have to miss a massive game against Tampa. And then goes in the locker room, and I don't know if you, you guys watched that video but it sure seemed like he was about to cry while saying and i quote
Starting point is 00:38:34 they were bullying me out there and quote are you bullying him now what you were bullied out there is this sunday night football with the big bad detroit lions or fourth grade recess. What are you talking about? You got bullied? Should Juju have to sit by himself at lunch? Is Patrick going to have to miss the, not get a juice box tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:39:10 You got bullied? You're supposed to be the bullies. And instead of being the bullies on fourth and goal to set the tone on your first drop. of the game and handing the ball to David Montgomery from the six inch line, you pop Jared Gough out wide on a play that you don't even know the rules on and throw him a pass. You got bullied? That's a bad look, buddy.
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Starting point is 00:41:26 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:42:08 or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman, Help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel,
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Starting point is 00:44:57 So Patrick, for just the second time all year, made a costly mistake. The pick that Latimore got was at the time his third pick of the year. Two of what the, the Jags pick and the Latimore pick were, you know, bad throws and or bad decisions. And then later in the first quarter for the second time all year, Patrick made a great throw to Travis that Travis bobbled and got picked. And because of that, the commanders were able to hang around. Luckily, the chiefs are back to being the chiefs in full. And because of that, it flatly did not matter. They had a drive in Demons.
Starting point is 00:45:45 They had a drive in this game that was a hundred. 19-yard touchdown drive because they got it started on the six and they got penalties on it to where they had to recoup those yards. And as I have been screaming from the mountain tops for the better part of two years, all Patrick Mahomes needs is a competent offensive line and a league average. receiving court, which now they have above league average. And now they do have DeMonsay a real AFC playoff team gauntlet coming up. Sunday at the Bills, then a buy week, then at the Broncos, then home for the Colts.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And that will, that three-game stretch will determine the AFC West. It will go a long way to determining the AFC East. for the bill's purposes, and it will go a long way to determining the number one seed in the AFC. And so I could not feel better about where this team is right now. And oh, yeah, by the way, the defense has allowed seven points in the last two weeks. Let's get to Bill's Chiefs. All right, it's that time.
Starting point is 00:47:10 So the Bill's won their Super Bowl against your Kansas City Chiefs. There you go. Kansas City is heads into the buy five and four as the eight seed. And the bills are the favorite to win the one seat. How are you, how do you want to do this one? How are you feeling? Well,
Starting point is 00:47:27 I mean, well, they did get the first one. They got the first one. So now they'll get them in the post season if the rules are. I mean, that's, that's the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:47:36 But I, let me give Buffalo credit because I got, listen, I picked the chiefs. I bet the chiefs. I did not think the best. Bill's defense, even if the Chiefs had their typical regular season against Buffalo vanilla game plan, I did not think the Bill's defense would be able to keep up with Kansas
Starting point is 00:47:54 City. And not only they keep up with Kansas City, they dominated most of that game. And Josh played great, and Patrick played really shaky. That was the first game in Patrick's entire career. He completed less than 50% of his passes. and they pressured the chiefs at will, and the bills were the far better team. It was a miracle.
Starting point is 00:48:20 The chiefs had multiple possessions down seven in the fourth quarter. And that last possession, when McDermott chose to go for a field goal, was coaching malpractice. You have to punt there. Like, going for that field goal and giving the chiefs a short field when they're only going to have 23 or 22 seconds, if you punt is just insanity.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I couldn't believe he did it. But set that aside. Buffalo steadied themselves. Buffalo stayed very alive for their division as the Patriots have just a cake schedule moving forward. And Buffalo ran the ball great. Josh was awesome. And the defense, which was my concern with them,
Starting point is 00:49:07 uh, more than stepped up. So all of that is true. That can be true while it's also true that this does not change my opinion 1% about what a Chiefs Bill's playoff game could look like. And I thought the Bill's young secondary players Cole Bishop and Xavier Hirsten after the game talking about the tells they saw on tape was a big unforced error. Save that info, kids. Like you're, you're probably going to have to play this team again. And so listen, Kansas City has its work cut out for him. But the whole, if the playoffs started today thing is just meaningless to me. The playoffs don't start today. they have eight more games to play if i now did this hurt their chances of winning the division sure
Starting point is 00:50:15 do i still right now would i still pick them to win the division i would and i think that the chiefs are going to vizu slums as the super bowl favorites oh yeah because they're the best team and I don't know how long we're going to talk Broncos Chiefs and I didn't want to not have time. And the people in the chat saying quit stalling and get to it, guys, I am, I do, I do about more live media than at least sports media than anyone in the field. I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm not in, I certainly don't do more media than everyone who does sports media if you include their assinine and ridiculous political talk show. but when it comes to actual sports talk, I do quite a bit. I'm not going to be able to run from any story.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And I certainly can't run from this one. The Chiefs went to Denver and arguably their biggest regular season game of Patrick's career and got thoroughly outplayed and blew a more than winnable game multiple times, blew a fourth quarter lead, and in that singular game, Bo Nix played better than Patrick Mahomes. That is what happened.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I could not have been more shocked watching a game than I was watching that one. because the chiefs are healthy for the most part. I know they don't have Pacheco. The chiefs right now are a healthier than average NFL team for this point this season. They were off a buy. They had full motivation, a lot of familiarity with that opponent, and Patrick was off, and the defense could not get a stop when it.
Starting point is 00:52:30 matter. And so on the offensive side of things, first, second play of the game, you have Xavier Worthy open for six. Yeah, it's a tough throw because it's 60 yards in the air, but
Starting point is 00:52:50 those are the throws that, you know, partly made Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes, he missed him. That would have been a chance to just basically set the tone for the game immediately. Missed that opportunity. Missed that opportunity. Obviously, you know, they had a sequence right before the Patrick interception,
Starting point is 00:53:17 and this might have been the single biggest swing of the game. Patrick throws a little swing past to Kareem Hunt. He gets down to the two yard line. They're going to have first and goal from the two. Jowan Taylor. Illegal formation. Lying. up too far back. Instead of first and goal from the two, it becomes first and 15. Two plays later. Patrick makes a terrible throw.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And instead of at least being, without the penalty, it's probably going to be 13 to 6. With the penalty, it still should be at least 9 to 6. Throws a pick, Denver drives down and scores. Despite all that, Kansas City fights back, scores a couple touchdowns, takes a lead, has the ball in the fourth quarter with a lead. Go down, score a touchdown game over, three and out. Then gets the ball back.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Tie game, four minutes. Perfect. Not going to cover the three and a half, but still drive down the field, kick a field goal, win the game. three and out and then on the defensive side of the ball first drive of the game first play sack have them in second and 16 which turns into third and seven give it up later in that drive have them in third and 11 outside a field goal range give it up and on the final drive of the game after those two offensive three and outs you instantly have bow nix and third and 15.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And you can't get a pass rush and you give up a 20 yard completion. Three plays later, it's third and six. Still not in field goal range. And you give up a seven yard completion. Denver made the high leverage plays. Kansas City did not. And Denver now is a stranglehold on the division. And
Starting point is 00:55:44 I can think what I want and still think about Bo Nix and his long-term viability as a franchise quarterback. But the fact of the matter is, on Sunday, he played, in my opinion, the best game of his career
Starting point is 00:56:04 and the second biggest game of his career. The only game that would have been bigger is the playoff game. And he was excellent. Excellent might be strong. He was good. They're, They're five and five.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Obviously, if they go seven and oh, they're a lock for the playoffs. And at seven and oh, they actually would have a chance to come all the way back and win the division. But it would be, and even though they're favored in every game remaining, given the fact that they're five and five, just sitting here saying they're going to rip off seven straight. would be overly optimistic even for me. But 7 and 0 definitely gets them in. 6 and 1, which would put them at 11 and 6, almost assuredly gets them in. But 5 and 2 probably does not.
Starting point is 00:57:15 And that is the thing that I think, think if we're going to have an honest conversation about where the chiefs are, what has to be acknowledged is they probably only have one more loss to play with, barring a true collapse by the Jags or the Chargers. We start with the Chiefs saving their season because while they would not have been mathematically eliminated, and I probably would have even convinced myself, well, if they just go 6 and 0 down the stretch, they'll make the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:58:12 which is true, by the way, 11 wins almost assuredly will get them in. And 5 and 6, they would have still been alive for 11 wins. That would have been a season ending loss. dominating the time of possession, dominating the yardage battle, and just not making championship plays, would have signaled that this chief's team simply doesn't have the juice of chiefs teams in years past. Thankfully, however, they are the chiefs. They do still have Patrick Mahomes and Chris Jones and Andy Reed. and despite fumbling inside the five-yard line while trailing by 11 in the fourth quarter,
Starting point is 00:59:08 they then played perfect defensive football, good but not great, offensive football, and it was enough to potentially derail is probably too strong, but really throw a wrench in this magical indie season. and give Kansas City a chance to in 48 hours be for the first time or just the second time all year, two games above 500 really have their head above water and be able to have the mini by, take a deep breath before a very difficult stretch run of final five games, two of which are cupcakes, the Titans and the Raiders, and three of which are teams fighting for exactly what the chiefs are fighting for,
Starting point is 01:00:10 AFC playoff spots and AFC playoff seating with games against the Texans, Chargers, and Broncos. So how did they do it? Because right now they are still the 10 seed. They went into the week, the nine seed, but they come out of the week despite the win, the 10 seed, because the Texans won, the Chargers were off, the Jags won. We'll get to those games later. So how did they do it?
Starting point is 01:00:39 They did it because the defense absolutely shut down, start to finish Jonathan Taylor, in one of the most impressive defensive performances any team has had all year. They allowed 20, but seven of them were on a drive that started at the three, thanks to Patrick's interception. And so to essentially hold the highest scoring, highest yardage, most efficient, offense in the NFL to 13 points, without forcing a turnover is just a remarkable job by that Chief's defense. And for the Colts to have the ball up 11 and go run pass pass and then have the ball up 3 and go and then have the ball up, pass, pass, and then have the ball up 3 and go pass,
Starting point is 01:01:49 the ball up three again and go pass, pass, pass before you go to overtime and you go pass, run, run. It's just, it is a testament to the fact that the Chief's defense was able to convince the Colts by the fourth quarter of this game, you're simply not going to going to get Jonathan Taylor going. But it also, and it also was a testament to the fact that the Chief's defense right or wrong simply said, Daniel Jones, go ahead and beat us. We don't think you can. And he couldn't.
Starting point is 01:02:39 And that gave the Chief's offense and Patrick just enough bites at the Apple that they were able to overcome. really sloppy game. Not just the turnovers, but the red zone inefficiency, the missed open guys, and the herky, jerky nature of
Starting point is 01:03:05 the offense. And Rishi Rice in the second half of that game, really for the first time, maybe since his suspension, certainly since his first game back,
Starting point is 01:03:22 from the suspension looked like the player that we saw at the end of his rookie year and the beginning of last season before he got injured, which is just a dynamic elite yard after catch player. Xavier Worthy made a huge play. Noah freaking gray made a catch while unconscious, which is still one of the more remarkable feats of this NFL season. and the Chief's offense did just enough against the Lou Anarumo Colts defense to where they're now stabilized. By the way, that is now four consecutive wins by Patrick against Lu Anorumo, his alleged kryptonite. Four wins in a row. after losing the first three games he faced against him, he's now won four straight.
Starting point is 01:04:29 But the story of the game is the defense. The fact that the Colts had 13 three and outs all year going into that game, which is remarkable. And I don't know how many they had total in the game, but I do know they had four straight to end the game. and Chris Jones, who has been, I think it's fair to say, underwhelming this year, picked a hell of a time to make his biggest impact.
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Starting point is 01:05:29 minutes, no hassle. Visit BoostMobile.com to get started. Delivery available for select devices. Purchased at BoostMobile.com. Terms do apply. Chiefs are a rough spot. You've always said with the combination of Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes that they've always had a shot. But now your chiefs are six and six in two games out of the wild card, not two games out of the Arrowhead invitation of the wild card. Yep. They have no, none of the key tiebreakers with the head-to-head teams. How are you at the state that the chiefs are in right now? Well, listen, I mean, you've got to be really concerned.
Starting point is 01:06:06 The only way they guarantee themselves a spot in the playoffs is by winning out. And I am, listen, some folks are, it is not a mathematical certainty that winning out gets them in, but winning out gets them in. And so they are alive, and the AFC to me does feel as wide open as it has at any point in my life. Maybe since 2008, the year Brady went down with an injury and it wasn't a great Peyton Manning year. and so certainly the most wide open it's been in more than a decade. So if they were to get hot, play their best football, get in, I think that they would be immediately the Vegas favorites to win the conference.
Starting point is 01:07:07 The problem is getting in is going to be very difficult because of those tiebreakers they don't have that you mentioned. Now, if they were. to beat Houston and then the Chargers, which are their next two, then maybe they could lose to Denver and sneak in at 10 and 7 because they would have a tiebreaker over the Colts, tiebreaker over the Ravens, which won't matter, and a tiebreaker over Houston. Maybe there would be a path there, but the only certain path is,
Starting point is 01:07:49 winning out. And right now, it is very difficult to trust this team, even though Patrick's had at least a five-game winning streak every year of his career. It is very difficult to trust this team to win five straight because, quite simply, they can't get off the field. And this was a problem in week one against the Chargers. It was a problem against Josh Allen. It was a problem against Bo Knicks.
Starting point is 01:08:26 And it was a huge problem against Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys where historically what the Chief's defense would do really well is one good run stop
Starting point is 01:08:46 on a drive to put you in second and nine. One forced in completion to put you in third and nine and then dial something up to get you off the field. All game long and all season long, this team has been forcing third and longs and then been totally unable to get off the field. And that is why, despite Patrick playing at the level that he is, and he was brilliant on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:09:31 And he's currently, he's third in the league in yards, fourth in the league in touchdowns, second in the league in QBR, the ESPN stat, first in the league and the nerd stat that I don't love, EPA. He's having an awesome year. But poorly timed turnovers by the Chiefs in previous games and the total inability all season long, aside from the Colts, fourth quarter against the Colts,
Starting point is 01:10:08 to make impact plays on defense, might wreck the season. It's very precarious. It's the most precarious it's ever been in Kansas City. There's no getting around that. Now, with that said, I know myself, and I don't think it will be unreasonable or irrational. That if they win Sunday, and I'm telling you right now, with that offensive line situation,
Starting point is 01:10:49 Chiefs minus three and a half are not going to be one of my picks this week. If they win Sunday, then I will feel like, all right, beat the Chargers next week, and you're going to go to another Super Bowl. That's how all feel. I feel like they're a win away from being a win away,
Starting point is 01:11:13 if that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. And so, I have not, my hope, I have not given up hope or given up belief, but my confidence has been shaken because it should be. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 01:11:57 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast.
Starting point is 01:12:16 People could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
Starting point is 01:12:45 This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and Headwriters. or street or sidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game.
Starting point is 01:13:07 This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.
Starting point is 01:13:29 The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
Starting point is 01:14:03 I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jen Chinchin win. I mean, she went down. three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
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Starting point is 01:15:11 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Chiefs are six and seven. mosa. Yeah. It's grim. They have lost now four of their last five after that game with Houston. This is the first time. I think it kind of looked like the cold was affecting the Chiefs. O'Line was cooked. Kelsey had some drops. Rice had some drops. Mahomes was limping around. Is there any type of silver lining or any type of hope that you're holding on to after those last game through the end of the season? All right. Well, listen, the hope is like, do they have a path to the playoffs. And the answer is yes, technically.
Starting point is 01:15:56 But, and the simplest way to explain their path to playoffs, and then we'll get into what has happened. But let me just get this out of the way. They have to go 4 and O. Home chargers at Titans, home Broncos at Raiders. The Colts can't go 3 and 1. Not worried about that. they're there i mean they're thinking about starting philip rivers so the the cults part of it to me is easy because the cults have seahawks niners jaggs texans so the the let's just say the the cults are out and then the chargers have to go either oh and four or one in three with one of the losses being to Denver in week 18.
Starting point is 01:16:52 The simplest way to look at, can the Chiefs make the playoffs is, they have to beat the Chargers this weekend, they then have to beat the Titans, the Broncos, and the Raiders, and the Chargers have to then lose to Denver in week 18 and to either the Texans or the Cowboys
Starting point is 01:17:17 in week 16, 17. If that happens, the chiefs make it. Chiefs lose, Chiefs eliminated, Patrick injured. One of the weirdest, saddest reason I've had to do for this show is very strange. Chiefs eliminated from the playoffs after the loss of the Chargers. Patrick Mahomes with a torn ACL and LCL. They're done. Yesterday, you said that this was the end of a chapter or end of the chapter.
Starting point is 01:17:42 So I'll get into that part in a second. First, I want to say this. this is pro football and this yes this is my hometown team and yes i have a personal relationship for pat with patrick uh and so and he's the face of the league and one of the defining players of in league history all of those things make this extra gutting in the short term and we'll see what it means in the long term. But I don't want to overstate the, how do I put this? Because the devastation of the moment is real. The sympathy or empathy that folks should have for me or for Chiefs fans or whatever right now, I think that's over. I think that's over
Starting point is 01:18:53 stated because this is pro football and this happens. And it was the chief's turn to have the year from hell. And it was sadly Patrick's turn to roll craps. And he was fighting through a knee injury the last few weeks. He was on the injury report the last few weeks. You saw him laboring. we said after week one, man, he sure ran a lot and sure took a lot of hits. And there's a tax to all of it. There just is. And there is a cost to the 20 game seasons. There is a cost to the offensive line injuries.
Starting point is 01:19:44 There is a cost to Patrick's refusal to sit out a game when his, knee was obviously bothering him. There is a cost to the chiefs being in, must win, got to have it, elimination games this early in the season. You extend your body, you extend plays, you put yourself out there and this happens. This is not, I am sick for Patrick. I'm sick for myself, but I'm also the Patriots and their fans watch Tom Brady go down the first week of Z. I'm sick of season. The cults and their fans watched Peyton Manning miss a whole year with a neck injury. The Packers and their fans watched peak Aaron Rogers knocked out for half a season with a snapped collarbone. Like the Ravens twice have had Lamar late in a year get hurt and never come back.
Starting point is 01:20:47 The Bengals and Joe Borough have had multiple seasons derailed by the guy getting hurt. Like, this is pro sports and this sport in particular. And so I am trying to balance how much it sucks that Patrick is going through this, how much the reality of we now have a line of demarcation, in Patrick's career that's going to be before and after the ACL, and we're going to see how he recovers from it, how he attacks it, how it changes for good or for bad, the player that he is. And I can recognize that.
Starting point is 01:21:52 And do me a favor, guys, don't put questions in the rundown. near the top of it. Sorry, this is a production note while we're doing it. I lose my train of thought. And I can recognize all of that while also not feeling like, woe is me as appropriate. This has been as good of a seven-year run as any football fan base has ever gotten seven-year of conference championship games, five Super Bowl appearances, three Super Bowl victories,
Starting point is 01:22:40 that you can put it up against anything, any team has done in the history of the sport. This seven years matches any seven years the Patriots had, any seven years the Niners in the 80s had. And the Steelers in the 70s is a weird one because they won four Super Bowl. but they didn't get to the conference championship game every year and they didn't get to five super bowls that that's a tomato tomato thing you can say that one was better but it's at least in the argument and and now the chiefs recede back into football general population and then see if they can emerge once again. And I hate that.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I have talked about this comp so much, and now it is even more apropos. But you guys have heard me whenever we have done the Brady Mahomes career stuff, talk about in his eighth year as a starter, Tom blew out his knee, and then that team, team had its only real low.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Obviously, they missed the playoffs the year Tom missed. They still won 11 games, by the way, which is shout out to how unbelievable the 07 pats and 08 pats were as a roster. And then in 2009, Tom wasn't his best. They won 10 games and got annihilated in round one of the playoffs. And in 2010, Tom was exceptional. that team was 14 and 2 and then they lost one of the weirdest playoff games ever to mark sanchise and the new york jets and then in 2011 they started their run and i don't know what is
Starting point is 01:24:48 i here is as far as this not being what's the right way to put this in a weird way I feel worse for Packer fans with the Micah injury than for Chief fans with the Mahomes injury in this regard. I was wrong about this team. They didn't have it this year. And so had they been 11 and 3 in that game, and that game, and, or I guess 10 and 3 because that was right. Do I have this right? I'm all scattered.
Starting point is 01:25:43 10 and 3 going into that game and had looked great. It was like, man, this is another championship level team. I think this would sting even more. But it was pretty clear. It became, I came to terms with where this chiefs. team was about an hour and a half before Mahomes's injury. The final drive of the first half, up 13 to 3, letting the chargers drive the length of the field, the combo platter of not being able to punch in the Herbert interception and
Starting point is 01:26:30 getting seven, and then later in the second quarter, allowing them to go, the length of the field in 40 seconds to take what could have been a 17 to 3 or at the very least 13 to 3 or worst case scenario 13 to 6 lead into halftime in a must win home game letting the chargers whose offense right now is not very good go the length of the field to make it 13 to 10 and then watching the chief's offense do nothing the entire second half. They didn't have it. And so this was not the Chiefs leaving, oh, man, left a potential championship on the table because the quarterback got hurt. They were not good enough this year.
Starting point is 01:27:26 And I was wrong. I talked a lot of shit, poked at a lot of folks, as soon as they looked like the Chiefs, again. That was a brief mirage in who this scene was this season. And I do feel, DeMontz, that they are about to have a mirror held up to some of their structural issues that Patrick was holding together over these last three weeks of the year. Because I think they are going to lose to the Tennessee Titans.
Starting point is 01:28:09 I think they are going to get beat up by the Denver Broncos. Oh, okay. And then we'll see Week 18 Raiders chiefs in Vegas,
Starting point is 01:28:24 you know, who shows up for that game. But I think with these old line injuries, this lack of a running game and one of the bigger disappointments of this season is the lack of development from the wide receivers, I think you're going to see what this offense looks like with bad quarterback play.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Because I understand Mahomes' numbers after the buy, the Cowboys game notwithstanding, were ghastly. the Cowboys game is the one thing propping them up. I think you're about to see what actual bad quarterback play would look like with the team right now with its issues. And I do think that there needs to be some real soul searching is too strong, but some personal personal accountability by, everyone involved in the team and hey how do we make sure the next time Patrick takes the field this team doesn't have as many glaring weaknesses as it had in 2025 and listen it's hard there is a reason only one team ever's gone to four straight Super Bowls there is a reason
Starting point is 01:30:09 only one team ever has gone to more than seven straight conference championship games. There is a reason only three other teams ever had gone to three straight Supermoles. What the chiefs accomplished was certain things were unprecedented and certain things were only, you know, had only been accomplished by one or two of the other greatest dynasties ever. But you saw some of the wear of the late draft picks of guys not developing, of some, a draft miss here, a free agency miss there, a poorly timed injury there. And they couldn't run the ball and they couldn't rush the passer all year. long and these receivers who I like I think Rishi Rice has the ability to be excellent I saw him be exceptional for the second half of his rookie season I know the talent Xavier worthy has but those guys not developing into fully formed legitimate man beating wide receivers hurt this team a lot too
Starting point is 01:31:45 those are the things that you address moving forward for the chiefs and then you see what version of Patrick we have when he comes back I believe the type of competitor and legendary athlete he is that there is a very good chance he comes back as a better player as a player that if he especially if he can't early on rely as much on his athleticism is even more precise in the pocket and traditional dropback sense than he's been the last couple of years and so i'm not worried about patrick and i would put i understand it was a terrible injury and he tore two ligaments, I would put all my money on him being back for week one next year. It's right at nine months and I think he'll do it. And what will the
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