The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What’s Wright - Best Of - Nick Wright's MAJOR Caleb Williams concerns, Lamar & Ravens Super Bowl hopes in JEOPARDY, Eagles-Chiefs REMATCH

Episode Date: September 14, 2025

Nick Wright reacts to Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears' stunning loss to J.J. McCarthy and the Minnesota Vikings on Monday Night Football to end Week 1 of the NFL season. Nick reacts to Ben Johnso...n's rough coaching debut and shares why he is officially concerned with Caleb for the first time in his NFL career. Later, Nick reacts to Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens' 4th-quarter collapse vs. Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills during Week 1 of the NFL season. How concerned should Baltimore fans be with their late-game struggles? Next, Nick shares his thoughts on Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs rematching Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, and the Philadelphia Eagles following Kansas City's Super Bowl loss. Will the Chiefs get revenge? #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:10 Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right with Nick Wright. The best takes and moments from this week on the show. Enjoy. All right, Monday night football de Monzae, and we might have a problem. Yeah, so the Bears came out looking pretty good. Caleb had that nice drive in the beginning of the game. Seemed like they were controlling it. Even JJ McCarthy threw a pig six, but they still turned it around at one.
Starting point is 00:02:30 So obviously Caleb Williams lost last night. What was your biggest takeaway from this game? All right. I'm officially a little concerned about Caleb. I was not at any point last year, but the sequence of the last 96 hours where I, listen, I'm a subscriber. I was already a subscriber to Tyler Dunn's substack. It's like 50 bucks for the whole year. year support real journalism he he is the guy if people are like i oh let me it's go long t d
Starting point is 00:03:12 let me see if you go to go longtd.com if that takes you there i actually don't know the answer that no so hold on let me see what the actual was so oh no it does oh maybe yeah go longtd dot com but it's on sub stack he is the guy who broke the story a year ago de monse that sean mcdermit tried to rally the troops by being like the 9-11 hijackers thing he has real sources he is a real journalist he's totally independent so i was already a subscriber of this he has released a three-part book on Caleb's first year with the bears it ain't great and it is to me highly it also discusses it's a the person who comes out looking the worst is Ryan Poles the GM Caleb doesn't look great though in it either and it talks about a shaky work ethic
Starting point is 00:04:16 not necessarily galvanizing leadership and then a shocking statement from some of his sources that there is a belief within the front office that was kept from the coaching staff that Caleb might have the learning disability dyslexia, which there is obviously no shame in that at all. However, one of the ways dyslexia can manifest itself obviously is you transpose words or letters and that one of the reasons they postulate he might have trouble translating the play call from his headset to his wristband getting it in getting plays in on time is a confusion about what he's reading and that is not something that is you know you can't overcome But it is something that has to be accounted for and the reporting is that the front office kept it from his coaches last year
Starting point is 00:05:31 Now obviously Ben Johnson one would think has all this information and if you watched last night You saw most notably that play on the sideline when Caleb spun out of trouble went to the sideline and then ripped an absolute laser to i don't know if was dj more rome i'm not sure why the talent damonzee is undeniable and hypnotizing it it just is like and you saw that obviously throughout his remarkable collegiate career but his right now deficit on the pre-snap parts of being an NFL quarterback, to me, are going to slow his development. And you saw that left and right last night, that getting plays in was still a problem. Motioning guys, when there's a few seconds on the shot, on the shot clock, on the game clock, or play clock, was still a problem.
Starting point is 00:06:50 was still a problem. Like some things that he really needs to be at this point, in my opinion, better at, those things have become one game in have not improved. And you don't think his decision making at all improved a little bit from last year? So I do think his decision making improved. I'm talking about the pre-snap operation. I'm talking about getting the team out of the huddle conveying the play call in time doing the things necessary to prevent these five-yard pre-snap penalties. That was brutal the whole night.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Just was. And while his decision making, I thought was better and he was quicker getting the ball out, his accuracy was shaky. Yeah. He's putting a lot on him. putting a lot on them putting a lot on the lot on the ball and also just missing there were a couple spots he missed guys wide open and so if i am being fair which i have to be i i still believe in caleb williams i am less certain that super-sufficient stardom is in his future.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And I think that is for me as a guy who said he would come into the league as a top 10 quarterback, a tough pill to swallow. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:08:40 But you don't think it might be a little early with it being game one? Like if they were to go and put it on the Lions, would that change stuff immediately? Maybe I'm going to look back on this and say i was you know 10 hours after the game it was reactionary but i am like i am i am i understand most of the audience has not read the tyler dunn story
Starting point is 00:09:07 and again his sub stack is go long td.com i i highly encourage people it's it's worth the six bucks a month there's less than that four bucks a month um it's worth it just to read this story to be totally honest with you um it that story shook my faith in a real way and then this game you of court listen he started 10 of 10 it started great it ended so poorly and listen he's not the only culprit in this which brings us to ben johnson where there were, I didn't like Ben Johnson's decision early to not kick the field goal. I just think you don't have the Lions team from last year. You're also playing a team that is going to be hard to accumulate points on,
Starting point is 00:10:18 as evidenced by the fact your offense, you know, struggled to score points throughout the night. I know they finished with 24. one touchdown came with two minutes left and another one was a pick six. But JJ at that, you know what I mean? There was reason to believe JJ would struggle early and he did. But the bigger problem is, and evidently Peyton Manning peeped this on the Manning cast because of course he did. I was surprised Joe and Troy didn't.
Starting point is 00:10:50 But this is going to, this is a coaching note that is simply, it's, Listen, nobody's in the Brian Callahan category, more on him later. But this was a mistake by Ben. So here's situation. He understood we've got to score before the two-minute warning. Caleb almost ran it in before the two-minute warning at 204 or 205. They end up ruling him out of bounds at the six-inch line. They then do a quick pass score.
Starting point is 00:11:22 They score it 202. They have one timeout. With the two minute warning and one time out if you force a three and out you're going to get the ball back without a minute left down three points and be alive Without the two minute warning and one time out you're going to get the ball back with about 20 seconds left and be dead It's that simple the two minute warning must be retained in part because I think Ben challenged to play because he didn't understand the rule now that's a tricky rule because let's so let me back up to it the rule is if someone is knee is on the ground and you touch them they're down immediately what ben saw or his guy in
Starting point is 00:12:15 the booth saw is oh we didn't touch the player with who was down we punched the ball and we punch the ball so cleanly, it did not, we never touched the player until the ball was loose. So is that a fumble? And so he challenged it. And the answer is, no, it's not. Even just touching the ball when a player is down on the ground, he's down. So that's like a nuance of the rule. Head coach needs to know that.
Starting point is 00:12:53 So like that was. So that's why they only had one time out instead of two. But now we get to, 202 left. And Cairo Santos, who missed a field goal earlier and is not known for the strongest of legs, de Manzai, Ben Johnson tells him kick it out of the back of the end zone to retain the two-minute warning. Kevin O'Connell tells his guy, if you can return it, return it. Don't worry about the yardage. Just return it to burn these two seconds.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Sidebar, no one's ever done this, but I would encourage it. The actual sharpest play there for that returner, if he only has to burn two seconds, is to catch it and run sideways staying in the end zone to burn as much time as possible and then just step out the back of the end zone. for a touchback or kneel it for a touchback then you still get the 35 yard line you don't risk a fumble you burn more time because the guys have to get to you but again that is phd level coaching of which you know not everyone is is is here yet that's fine kevin o'connell did a great job with it but here is the nuanced part that matters in particular with the new touchback rules to monson The new touchback rule is If you kneel it in the end zone
Starting point is 00:14:31 If you kick it into the end zone and they kneel it They get it on the 35 They did not change the fact That if you kick it out of bounds You get it at the 40 So If the only The single most important thing to your team
Starting point is 00:14:51 Is that they not be able to return this kick and you don't have a cannon-legged kicker who can kick it out the back of the end zone on command, then you don't ask him to kick it out the back of the end zone, which he might not be able to do. You ask him, fire that thing 45-degree angle right out of bounds, which everyone can do. You give up five yards, who cares, you guarantee, so instead of the 35, it's the 40,
Starting point is 00:15:24 That doesn't matter. What matters is now that next play happens at 202. There's nothing they can do about it. That was a mistake by Ben Johnson. I saw it in real time. Peyton Manning on the Manning cast evidently saw it in real time. And I thought that that was a mistake. So listen, I thought, I don't think that was like an awful first game by Ben Johnson,
Starting point is 00:15:54 but the bad challenge and the trusting that Cairo Santos can just boom it out the back of the end zone were very costly mistakes. So what are you giving him as a grade in his first game? Blew a big lead. Offense didn't really get going after the opening script. Those mistakes, C plus. C plus. C plus, giving him a C plus. All right, let's spend a second on JJ.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah, I was about to say, so after seeing that performance by JJ, what do you expect from him moving forward? Well, listen, I think that the comeback and his role in it and the confidence he's going to get from it, you know, if they didn't get that comeback at the end and it was just he threw a pick six and they lose, I think the next few weeks could be real rough. instead a guy whose rep coming in was just a winner makes big plays galvanizing force just adds to it in his first ever NFL game pretty good like that part is really good so I didn't think he was that impressive I didn't think he was that good but he had the moments which I think are you know super relevant and super you know useful and so I want to give him credit for that am I
Starting point is 00:17:31 am I sold entirely that like you know he's gonna be a franchise quarterback no of course not yet after one game but for what his rep was de Manzee that was an awesome start that was he's his description in this game yes for sure Um, well, you're giving, let's, oh, go ahead. Oh, okay. Will, will, we'll be getting similar treatment to the prince? You know how, uh, Trevor had bad coaching and then he had his coach. And that was officially his first year.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Well, let's listen. I mean, if Trevor does what the prince did, which is have an awesome second year, make the playoffs, win a playoff game. Then yeah, we can just say, or if Caleb does, sorry, if Caleb does what Trevor did, we can just say, yeah, it was, it was all on. on Iber flus and I think a lot of it was on bears dysfunction, Iber flus again. I'm not saying like I'm out on Kalin. I am saying that the stuff, some of the stuff that I wanted him to be just a little tighter on, I didn't see. And that's just, that that just is what it is.
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Starting point is 00:23:42 That 15-point lead erased. Harbaugh is now blown 17 double-digit second-aft leads. A bigger story here is the bills win or is it the Ravens loss? What do you think the bigger story is? The bigger story here is, oh my gosh, the Ravens got to stop shooting themselves in the foot. The penalties and just... The penalties are just so frustrating. The penalties and just how we move when we need something, the bills have the momentum.
Starting point is 00:24:15 They're coming back and we're running into rounds with Zayflowers. Just rather get a first down. Um, well, I'm glad you, did you bring up that end around with Zay Flowers? The, the, because I, from what I said on the show yesterday, or did that bother you organically as much? Yeah. That, that play de Monzae is like lost in the conversation surrounding the game. That was insane. Like, you need one first down to win the game.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Derek Henry is killing them. I understand Henry got stuffed on first down. You cannot use one of your downs on Zay Flowers. You just can't. It's got to be Lamar, ball in his hands, you know, if see someone open, throws it or run, or Derek Henry. So that I agree with entirely. And I also agree with you, the bigger story is the Ravens loss. Because the bills, listen, Josh Allen is an unbelievable player.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And since he stopped turning the ball over, he stopped being. a roller coaster and I stopped calling him one. Like, I've been fair about Josh. Josh always had this amazing talent. He was a little too high variance of a player early. He removed some of that variance and now he's just a killer. So the Bill's coming back is not that shocking. The Bill's defense looking as bad as it did for the vast majority of that game is actually
Starting point is 00:25:44 a little concerning. Like, weirdly, if I were a Bill's fan, DeMonze, I would be over the moon. thrilled about the win and you have the tiebreaker and you have the easier schedule. You've never had the one seed since you've been, since you've had Josh Allen. You now have a real shot at it this year. Like all of that is super positive. But deep down, I'd be like, yikes, that defense. Like that's a bit of a concern.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But the story is Baltimore once again inventing a way to lose. Because this is what they do. And I know Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh. Harbaugh tried to make the point essentially that Harbaugh tried to make the point that yeah, we've blown a lot of big leads, but we have a lot of big leads. Like how fair, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:37 Like we're in this position more than most. Mike Sando has these figures. I think it's good. since the start of the 2022 season, there are seven teams, DeMonse, who have had multiple score fourth quarter leads at least 20 times. Okay? So seven teams have had multiple score fourth quarter leads at least 20 times.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And Harbaugh is right that the Ravens have the most of them. The Bengals and the Bills have 21. The Lions have 22, the Chiefs have 24, the Niners have 25, the Eagles have 28, and the Ravens have 31. So that is a lot. Here's the problem, though. Record in those games from best to worst. The Chiefs are 24 and up. And honestly, I just did a home of homes thing.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I don't need to do it again. that's the least surprising stat in the world because while it's been a while since the chiefs have been able to generate some big lead the idea i can't even conceptualize what it would look like for the chiefs to blow a big lead yeah no for you know what i mean for the chiefs to be up 13 in the fourth and lose like yeah like with patrick it just doesn't happen like they're not going to make those mistakes and he obviously deserves credit for that too but the chiefs are 24 and The next best is the Eagles, 27 and 1. Then the Lions, 21 and 1.
Starting point is 00:28:26 The Bengals, 20 and 1. The Niners, 23 and 2. And the second worst is the Bills at 19 and 2. And then the Ravens at 25 and 6. So yes, the Ravens, have had more slightly more opportunities but the chiefs have never lost in the last three years in that spot the eagles lions and bangles have lost once the niners and bills have lost twice and the ravens have lost six times that's not nothing it's just not nothing and i don't i don't know
Starting point is 00:29:18 that the harball lamar combo is going to get over the hump man i just don't. And it's, Lamar's obviously, you know, just getting better as a player, getting better in the playoffs. Like, I also thought, Demons, how did you feel when you saw Harbaal was punting on fourth and two and a half? I mean, it's easy to say looking back at the game, like, definitely got to go for that. But also, we weren't stopping them. So it probably does make more sense to go for it in that situation because the bills have just been they've been doing everything they want it. So it's not fourth and five.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Well, and here's the other piece. We got Lamar and Derek Henry. And I know Lamar said he was cramping, but what you can do there is because the bills used a timeout. They use a timeout. You get two minutes there to kind of recover. You then trot your offense out. Try to draw them off sides,
Starting point is 00:30:18 40 seconds to recover. If you don't call time out, another two minutes. to recover and then you got to go for it because if you if you don't get it you might get the ball back you know what I mean if you don't get it and they score you get the ball back and if you do get it the game's over and here's my only criticism of Lamar from that game my only criticism when he threw the pass on third and nine where he did three yards short of Zay over the middle.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I assumed, I think it was actually the Hopkins. I think that was the Hopkins. He walked over and talked to it. Yeah, it was. Yeah. I assumed he threw it there because he, like, obviously they were going to down. Correct.
Starting point is 00:31:12 But he was comfortable throwing it short of the sticks because it's four down territory. You know what I mean? Like that's what I assumed was the case. If you're not, if you don't know you're going for it, You can't in my you can't throw short of the sticks there like you've got to try to go get the first down I also have a question for you to Lanzai and if the answer is that nothing to do with the game that's fine you sent out a tweet an hour into the game that said that that had a superhero a bowl of ramen maybe and then a trophy
Starting point is 00:31:53 I before you tell me what that is I have a question is that a bowl of ramen in the in the picture oh yeah it's a well yeah it's a bowl it's a bowl raw yeah water yeah like was it specific are you are you going to tell us what that was it had nothing to do with the game I was about to eat I knew it I was gonna guess okay pops pops stop I mean let me come out and be fair yes yeah everything to do with the game. I was tweeting Super Bowl champs. I thought the Bravins is going to win the game. That's why I left it cryptic. But, yeah. Super Bowl champs. Yeah, it's a Supergirl.
Starting point is 00:32:35 It's a ball. Oh, I had it totally wrong. What did you think of us? I had it totally wrong and I thought our producers were going to laugh. What people don't know about you is, while you're not what I would call a chef, you do consider yourself a bit of like an elite ramen food. Yes, savant.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like adding eggs and different ramen. And I honestly thought you were watching the game and made yourself like a great ramen meal watching it. And we're like calling yourself like the king of making ramen noodles. I swear to God, that's what I thought. I'm the champ. Another ball down. Now a super bowl champ. That's pretty good. All right. That's pretty good. Um, okay. All right. Uh, do you have a, you have a Derek Henry tweet for me or to not tweet, but question. Oh, yeah. Um, yeah. Oh, yeah. So aside from the fumble, Henry looked good as ever, obviously. He had 169 yards and two touchdowns. Um, do you think that it's safe to say that the cliff isn't coming this year? She said he was getting old. Sure, sure doesn't seem like clips coming. Holy moly. That guy is unbelievable. And that's scary for me. He's just. He's just. He's not.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Just an unbelievable player. Yeah. All right. And I have no problem with Lamar shoving the fan. Me neither. Fans shoved him first. I have no problem at all. And not only him.
Starting point is 00:34:08 They didn't talk about it on the broadcast. Bill's fans. Stop throwing shit on the field. They were the originators of throwing sex toys on sporting event fields before it caught fire in the WM. NBA and when Lamar when Derek Henry was running for his touchdown they threw a water bottle on the field they famously threw snowballs at the chiefs like icy snow like they stop throwing stuff on the field like I have to listen every year to how Buffalo's got the greatest fans in the world because it's cold there and they shovel the stadium for him like stop throwing stuff on the field all right ever sign up for a phone plan thinking wow amazing price. And a few months later, surprise your bills higher. Boost mobile, you pay $25 a month forever. Unlimited talk, text, and data starting at just $25 a month. No price hikes, no contract forever.
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Starting point is 00:35:35 What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
Starting point is 00:35:48 But this one's extra special. So how do we... How do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title. for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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Starting point is 00:38:00 I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jen should win. I mean, she went down in three to Roebuckina, but I'm delighted. Yeah, she's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lernerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now.
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Starting point is 00:38:53 The Eagles obviously won, but they probably did win in the fashion they wouldn't like. And the Chiefs lost. How close to the Super Bowl, how close to the Super Bowl game do you think this will be? Oh, I don't listen. I do not think Kansas City is going to get blown out. I will, if Kansas City gets blown out, I will be concerned. okay i also spoiler alert don't think kansas city's going to lose and i think that the chiefs being home dogs with patrick being healthy is a slap in the face especially because i do think it's fair
Starting point is 00:39:38 to say philly did not look overwhelming in week one you know what i mean i philly looked fine but they looked kind of lucky, not lucky, but fortunate to get out of that game with a win against a Dallas team that there were no expectations for. Okay? So I also think that those of us that have been hoping for or planning on, you know, the Mahomes light shows, Brew calls it to come back, going to have to wait some more time. because obviously they knew they weren't going to have Rishie Rice in this game, but now they also won't have Xavier worthy in this game.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And so I think it's going to be a lot of ball control, a lot of short intermediate stuff, and a lot of Mahomes make some magic. But I think you have a pissed off, uh, urgent Patrick Mahomes. And I think he will deliver. I'm going to add to it that where my,
Starting point is 00:40:44 where my control, concern comes in this game is, is Jalen Hertz going to have four seconds to throw and that chief secondary not be able to hang in there? Now, I know Jalen threw nothing but short except for the one bomb and had nothing but time against Dallas. But I also know that Justin Herbert had nothing but time and carved up the chief secondary. The part of the week one game that was most dispiriting and most concerning to me, DeMonse, was how the overall pass defense for Kansas City looks. Now, will Philadelphia take advantage of it?
Starting point is 00:41:29 Okay. Like, will Philadelphia lean into that part of their offense? I don't know. I mean, A.J. Brown went 58 minutes in week one. without a target. And they still moved the ball and Jalen was brilliant scrambling. But that's another piece of this game that does concern me. Designed pass plays, Jalen drops back.
Starting point is 00:41:55 They wait, they wait. The times the coverage holds up, no one's open, Jalen's able to run. So I think Philly will be able to move the ball if they lean into the passing game. I think the Chief's run defense has been one of their underrated factors the last couple of years. And even in that Super Bowl, when the Chiefs got annihilated, the run defense was obviously really impactful. Or I did a good job. I should. Impactful is the wrong word.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Did a good job against Sequin. The story of the Super Bowl was the disastrous offensive line play from Kansas City. and now I'm excited to see it because the Chiefs upgraded at left tackle, obviously, and the Eagles don't have the edges they had last year. Now, they still do have Jalen Carter in this game, as we talked about. He is suspended for this game, but he's playing in this game. And how will those matchups look? If Patrick has even a modicum of time,
Starting point is 00:43:11 I believe he will be able to make hay against this Eagle secondary that I believe is going to be a work in progress throughout the year. Obviously, Dijin is very good and Quine and Mitchell is excellent. And maybe I should call Dijin excellent and Quinnian Mitchell very good. But they're both at the very least very good players. But there isn't a single other person in that secondary that you trust. I as far as DeMonse you know
Starting point is 00:43:43 will you panic should I panic if the chiefs are oh and two I the answer to that is unequivocally no and here is the thing that it is frustrating is the wrong word but annoying
Starting point is 00:43:59 that folks don't seem folks speak with authority and don't have have the memories, I guess, that I do on what the Chiefs have actually been in, you know, the Mahomes era. In 2021, the Chiefs started three and four, three and four. Coming off, getting blown out in the Super Bowl by Tampa, they started the next year,
Starting point is 00:44:32 three and four, and then found themselves, as they always do, at the absolute worst in overtime of the AFC championship game. In 2023, the Chiefs in November to December lost, they had a stretch where they lost. One, two, yeah, five out of eight, including within that stretch where they lost four out of six, and in that where they lost three out of four, and the only win came against the wulfle Patriots where they didn't even look that good. And they responded to that by winning the Super Bowl. The idea that they've never had, that had just been seen, and even last year, even though
Starting point is 00:45:22 they never lost games, people hated how they looked at various points in the regular season, and they found themselves in the Super Bowl again. So it is just flatly inaccurate. to say they haven't faced any regular season adversity or downswings during this time. It's just that the baseline is so high that they have been able to obviously more than overcome it. But I, so I wouldn't panic. I will come on here, you know, Tuesday, if not before. If they get manhandled by an Eagles team that I don't think as good as last year as Eagles team,
Starting point is 00:46:07 it is time for real concern, not panic, but concern. If it's a really good game and they end up coming up on the short end of it, I won't panic at all. But I think Kansas City is better than Philadelphia. And I also think this, and this is the... Like without the... Without rice and worthy? Well, so here's the thing on that.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I think that when Rice and Worthy are back, Philadelphia will be better than they are right now. Because I think Philadelphia's defense has so many new pieces, it's going to be a work in progress, so to speak. I also, like here is, and again, people can disagree with me. People can say that I'm, you know, waving pom-poms, as Bruce says sometimes. And the, you know, with the pom-poms, when I wave them,
Starting point is 00:47:10 all I see is you've been right every year. But I firmly believe that given how Philadelphia played in week one, that had they been playing the Chargers, they lose similar fashion the Chiefs do. And given how the Chiefs played in week one, had they been playing the Cowboys and that defense, there's no concerns about the Chief's offense right now. Like, I don't think Philly or Kansas City
Starting point is 00:47:41 should be happy at all about how week one went. Now, I know Philadelphia is 1 and 0 and 1, and Kansas City's 0 and 1, but it feels to me like both of those teams had to be pretty uneasy about their performances. The only thing Philadelphia, I thought, did really well in week one, was Jalen, I thought Jalen's scrambles were just elite. You know what I mean? Jalen's ability to make something out of nothing was phenomenal. And the only thing the Chiefs did really well in week one was the Mahomes kind of magic, broken play craziness.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Like nobody on the Chiefs or the Eagles outside of their quarterback should feel great about week one. And so we'll see how they both respond. But to your point, de Monze, about without rice and worthy for Kansas City, if Kansas City wins the game, without rice and worthy. That is a shot in the arm. That's panic time for Eagles? Well, listen, I think Philadelphia's got the infrastructure and the too much talent.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I don't think, like, there's not a lot of panic that should happen in week, you know, in week two. If, like, if Baltimore. I mean, with that just being like your top competition and they don't have, like, two of their best offensive guys. So here's the thing, though. I don't, this is for Philadelphia or Kansas City. I simply don't believe in cross-conference rivalries in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And I don't believe in your top competition ever being someone in the other conference. Because it has to be such a perfect storm for you guys to play in a game that matters. Like, let's just say for the record, or for example, I should say, that Philips, that Philips, does blow out Kansas City. Just annihilates them. It looks just like the Super Bowl. While that would reasonably shake anyone's faith that the Chiefs can beat the Eagles, it to me should barely shake your faith that can the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Because, like, the Eagles would have to get there as the Chiefs would have to get there, obviously, but the Eagles have to get there. You know, so the, in a weird way, like, like that charger game and how the chargers exploited what were Chief's weaknesses was a bigger concern than anything that could happen Sunday. Because the Chargers are direct competition. You play them again. You could play them in the first round of the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like Philadelphia maybe, you know, has Kansas City's number, but the Packers clip them and it doesn't even matter. And so that the, it is very. that a cross-conference rivalry be the rivalry, it has to be almost NBA LeBron Cavs, Steff Warrior style, where it's like these two teams are just... It's inevitable, right, where we're going to end up, and that's just not, to me, realistic here.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I know you wanted to ask me about how I'm watching the game. Yeah, what's going to be your plan? for the game to set up? Are we kicking people out of the house? I think I'm going to be back home. I might stay in Kansas City for the game, but I think I'm going to be back home. There is a chance. I stick around and watch the game in person, but I don't think that's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:51:31 So I don't have, I guess, a good answer there. Go ahead. It would be high stress for you. Well, it would be a home game. like I certainly would never watch this a game like this on the road. Right. And again, if people don't know, the reason we're recording this Wednesday, the reason I'll be in Kansas City is we are doing the show live,
Starting point is 00:51:53 the TV show live from Power and Light 2 o'clock central time on Friday. And I would love any and everyone in Kansas City to stop by. And again, anyone that shows up with a first thing's first, related sign, I'll buy you a beer. And so the logistics or legality of that, I don't really know, but I'm just going to come there with a pocket full of 20s and hand them out to people who have first things, first signs. So that's the plan.
Starting point is 00:52:26 It'll be great. There is a level that would seem like of trepidation from some other folks of how big the crowd's going to be. I think the crowd's going to be pretty big. Hey, guys, it's us and the Jonas brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.
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