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All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.   Nick Wright breaks down the NBA's MVP battle between the Oklahoma City Thunder's Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, San Antonio Spurs' Victor Wembanyama, Los Angeles Lakers' Luka Doncic, and Denver Nuggets' Nikola Jokic. Next, Nick reacts to an ESPN article where several members of the Philadelphia Eagles anonymously bashed QB Jalen Hurts... is Philly in danger of imploding? Later, Nick breaks down where the Kansas City Chiefs' Patrick Mahomes, Buffalo Bills' Josh Allen, Baltimore Ravens' Lamar Jackson, and Cincinnati Bengals' Joe Burrow will ultimately rank among NFL QBs historically. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right with Nick Wright. The best takes and moments from this week on the show. Enjoy. All right, about two weeks remaining and the MVP race is getting spicy. So SGA is still the favorite at minus 300, followed by Wimbi, Luca, and then Yokic, all with great cases. Two questions. Is this the greatest MVP race that we've ever seen? And why is Lucas case so polarizing?

Okay. So we will, the main course of this is Luca. The little Amu's Bush appetizer is, is this the greatest MVP race we've ever seen? And the answer to that question is unequivocally, absolutely without argument, no. Because there is, it, I, to be told. totally fair. I didn't do pencil to paper go through every MVP race to see if this one has an argument for second place because it didn't seem like a good use of my time. Because I knew it did not have an argument for first place. Because the greatest MVP race of all times and one of the

most ridiculous is, and we've talked about it once before on the show, but we will talk about it once more here. The 1962 NBA MVP race is one of the greatest one of the greatest pages on the internet. On the whole internet, Al Gore's entire internet, one of the greatest pages that exists is the basketball reference, 1961, 62 MBA Awards voting page, where if you go there, you will see that season.

Coming in sixth in the MVP race, bullet Bob Pettick, who averaged a tidy 31 points, 19 rebounds a game. He got two first place votes. He came in sixth. Coming in fifth in that MVP race was Jerry West, who averaged a nice and tidy, 31 points, eight rebounds, five assists. coming in fourth in that MVP race was Elgin Baylor, who averaged 38 points, 19 rebounds, five assists, however, only played 48 games because he was in the military and could only play part-time. He was going back and forth between, you know,

I don't know if it was the weekends he could play or the weekends he couldn't, whatever it is, but, you know, while he wasn't in the, U.S. military, he was a part-time basketball player, giving you 38 and 19. However, third place that year was Oscar Robertson, the first year anyone in the history of the league ever averaged a triple double. Came in third. He averaged 31 points, 13 rebounds, 11 assists, a nice, tidy third. And second place, with only nine first place votes.

was Wilts Chamberlain, who that season averaged 48.5 minutes, meaning he averaged more minutes than there were in the games because he never subbed out essentially the whole year and played overtimes. And while averaging 48 and a half minutes, he actually averaged more points. a nice clean for wilt, 50.26 rebound a game average on 48 and a half minutes a night. However, that was only enough to finish a distant, distant second to Bill Russell, who averaged 19 points and 24 rebounds. Folks, I wasn't there. I can't tell you how it happened.

I just know that happened. I know that Bill Russell. That was an insane way to finish it off. Bill Russell ran away with it. averaging 19 and 24, Will was 50 and 26 playing every minute of every game all year. The Big O averaged 31, 13, and 11. Elgin gave you 38 and 19 while also serving the country. And that so I don't care.

This top four is pretty sick. It doesn't quite match up to the 1961, 62 NBA awards voting. Now that that is taking care of and out of the way, we will discuss what is happening right now with Luca, which is bordering on a little insane. Okay. Because folks are in real time, I fear, recreating the history of this season and also recreating. creating their own belief in what these Lakers could be. Because going into the, the Lakers have already smashed the over on their win total.

Many people, smart people that I respect, thought this Lakers team would stone miss the playoffs. They already have 50 wins. They have already clinched a playoff spot. They are a huge favorite to be the three seat. They also have a very decent chance of finishing with a better record than every team in the east except for Detroit. Right now they're sitting at 50 wins. The Celtics are sitting at 50 wins.

And they have done that despite the fact that they made no major moves at the deadline. and austin reeves and lebron james have missed a combined 47 games which means they have done that based on the overwhelming strength of luca danchich offensive wonderkind and there are two things happening with the luka MVP discussion three things actually one Folks are pretending the Lakers were expected to be this good. They were not. And early in the year, when they were the three seed and Luca was averaging 33 a night, the discussion happening in real time was, well, they've beat up on some bad teams.

They've gotten very lucky in close wins. The clutch numbers won't sustain. this team is not as good as its record suggests. Before the year, they were a behind, almost universally behind. OKC in projections, OKC, obviously. Denver, no problem. Houston, having added Kevin Durant, Minnesota, yes, the Los Angeles Clippers were a much more popular regular season pick. Now, they were not behind the spurs for most people because the spurs have greatly overachieved their expectation.

And part of that is a testament to Wimby, no doubt about it. And that's just in the Western Conference, much less where they would stack up throughout the league as a whole. So that happened. People reframing what they thought the Lakers. expectations were this year. That is happening in real time. Another thing that is happening in real time, people pretending like Luca just started having an awesome season. He was the Western Conference player of the month for January. Luca's month by month numbers this year are October. He started the year off averaging 45 a game, okay? But that's three games.

in October. In October, he averaged 45 a game. In December, or I'm sorry, in November, pardon me, sorry, when the Lakers lost two games all month that he played in, Luca averaged 33, 8, and 10. That's December. That's November, pardon me. December, when the Lakers weren't that good and when Luca missed a couple games due to injury or just missed a couple games he was down to 31 7 and 7

then January rolls around he's player of the month with 34 7 and 9 March was the one bad month the Lakers were back It wrapped around the All-Star game. He was He dealt with the injury And was 27 and 9

And then March rolls around and for the month of March He's 38 8 and 7 and the Lakers have lost twice And if they gave away player of the month for March I don't know that they do. I think they might combine March and April, but it would be him again. So folks

pretending as if he just started being excellent is not true. Now what is true is if you had asked me in mid-February where he was, and I think we did it on this show

in the MVP race, I would have had him sixth. In mid-February, I would have had Shea. I don't know if Wimby was quite there. Shea, Joker, Jalen Brown, Cade and Wimby all ahead of him. So, which is why I have not gotten on here and said he's clearly the MVP. Shea has been that consistently excellent all throughout the year. But I do think Luca is gaining massive, massive ground.

And the last plank of this is folks have simply overstated how awful his defense is. Is Luca Donchich an excellent defensive player? Obviously not. Is Luca Donchich a good defensive player? I don't think so. is Luca Donchich one of the worst defensive players in the league? By no possible metric, can you feel that? Now, do Luca's defensive lowlights rank among the worst of any player in the league?

Absolutely. The plays where he's just out to lunch defensively. Yes, and that is a fair criticism of it. But my pal Manix, talking about individual defensive rating as if that is a real thing when it really isn't. That's a team and a lineup stat, I think is unfair. And also, how much he rebounds? Do you think it kind of reverses that at all? I mean, I shouldn't say at all, but like I feel like the fact that he's such a good rebounder playing point card.

It should play a little bit into that. Well, yes. And I mean, that's been a big part as Daniel about. you look up the the advanced metrics tell us that you know Bill Russell you were great but the greatest defensive big man of all time is Nikola Yokic all of us know that's nonsense but the reason for that is because the advanced metrics really value defensive rebounding ending a possession and so I understand Luca is polarizing okay

I get that I understand that I understand that Luca annoys people I get that and I understand that at times Luke is his own worst enemy I get all of that

but we are moving the goalposts on this player in a wildly unfair manner the Lakers do not have a great defensive roster. And Luke is obviously a part of that.

And they right now have tied with the clippers for the 19th best defense in basketball. And that's, you know, not very good. It is ahead of Denver, by the way. And it is improving and has been improving particularly over the last month. But for us to, in real time, try to change what the historic qualifiers for League MVP are, in my opinion, in service of one guy's candidacy in Victor Winminiama, and against another guy's candidate. see in Luke Adanchich, which is an award that has

never been 50 defense, 50 offense, changing it up, I think is disingenuous. Would you say that? Go ahead. Is a percentage of it that's defense, though? Of course. Like 70, 30.

No, of course. Right. Listen, I think historically, if you look at the winners, Historically, it's been 90-10 offense defense as far as what is valued. Right. Now, there are outliers, and interestingly enough, one of them was the 62 MVP race. Where there was a guy who averaged a 30-point triple double, a guy who averaged 50 a night,

and then a guy who averaged 20, what was it, 19 and 24 or something? Yeah, no, 26 rebounds, 19. points, but he was so devastatingly impactful on defense that he won the award. Now, he also was a champion considered the, you know, greatest winner in the sport had, you know, at that point Bill Russell had accomplished more than Wembe, which plays, you know, a bit of a factor into it. But there are guys that can change the rules on. All right, it's 9010 for other guys, but this guy's defensive impact is so overweigh.

overwhelming, so overwhelming that he should win the award. So I understand folks saying Wimby's defensive impact is just unlike everyone else's. That is a fair argument. It is not a fair argument to say, I'm not even considering Luca because he doesn't play both ends of the court. Not if you voted for James Harden, not if you weren't throwing your entire body in front of Steve Nash going first, first, second in MVP voting not if you were part of Steph Curry over LeBron multiple times don't don't don't tell me you're you're weighing this on two-way impact and here's the other thing about Wimby's specific candidacy you it is in my again not always so humble opinion

outrageous to give him extra credit in the MVP race for how few minutes per game he's playing. If you want to give the Spurs extra credit for how much of a contender they are,

because it's like, well, shit. What about when Wimby is playing 38 minutes a game instead of 20? totally makes sense. If you want to talk about what this means for Wimby's upper limit potential, what about when he plays the minutes

all the other candidates play? I'm all for that as well. There are a lot of things where Wimby's minutes per game should come into the conversation. But his ability to win the MVP award, is not one of them when a stat that I think

will absolutely blow your mind, Monsei. And I want to get this exactly right. This year, Victor Wimbunyama has played 90 fewer minutes than LeBron. Victor Wimbenyama this year,

year is 100th in the NBA in minutes. 100th. Now, you can again say that means, oh my God, he's going to win six titles and 10 defensive player of the year awards and the spurs are going to be unstoppable, all of that. But what I don't think you can say is, what I don't think is accurate is, is the that Wimby's the gap between Luca's offense and Wimby's offense is 20 points created a game conservatively. Lucas points plus assists versus Wimby's points plus assists and there's more to it. And I know all of a sudden Wembe's, we've created a new term called roll gravity or lob gravity or something.

It's like, oh, the corner three is they're generating. I've watched an NBA for my entire life. I've never heard this term. Great. But the gap between, so you have this size gap between Luke and Wimby's office. Now, you can say you have an even bigger gap between Luke and Wimby's defense. No problem. But is Wimby's impact in 1,755 minutes, his defensive impact, his defensive impact,

that much greater to where it overcomes the fact that Luca has played 500 more minutes the equivalent of for again at Wimby's minutes per game 29 500 minutes is an extra 16 games it's not it's not enough for me And again, if someone, I think there are, and I haven't even talked about Joker on this, and we'll get to him in a second. If someone makes the, argues for, here's why Wimby's the MVP.

Nobody thought the Spurs would be this good. He's so far in a way the best defensive player in the sport. I think that is a legitimate argument. Shea obviously has a legitimate argument. Joker who will get to obviously has a legitimate argument. What I find so galling, and I probably overuse that word, is folks, a lot of folks, are acting as if Luca does not have a legitimate argument. You're a goddog right, this guy.

A guy who's averaging almost 34 a game. For an overachieving three seed, whose second and third best player, both have missed a third of the season, that guy every year in NBA history had a legitimate argument for the MVP. And Luke is not going to come close to it. And I think that's unfortunate. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news?

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And so go ahead, Demandze. You want to go to these matchups? Oh, yeah. So over the course of the next two weeks, yeah, we'll see five games where two of the candidates so the MVP race will face each other. So first we got OKC, they'll play the Lakers twice, and Denver wants. Denver will play the Spurs twice and OKC once,

and the Spurs will play Denver twice, and then the Lakers will play OKC twice. Yeah, those two times. Yeah, so listen, I think, I think Shea, one of the reasons I believe Shea is a huge favorite to win this award is, and we're talking more about OKC and a few. I think Shea has a floor of second place on ballots.

So I think Shea is going to get firsts and seconds. And I think Wimby is going to get first, second, third, and fourths. And I think Joker is going to get not a lot of first, but second, third, and fourths. And so I think that there have been instances in the history of this award with the guy with the most first place votes doesn't win it. That happened to Barclay. It's happened a few times. I think Shea probably gets the most firsts and wins the award. But I also think there's a world where Wimby gets the most first and doesn't win it.

because Shays is all firsts and seconds with a couple thirds. Wimby is firsts, seconds, thirds, fourths, and that drags, that drags him down. I also just, I think that this only becomes a very close conversation if the Spurs finished with the one seat. And I have just... So you don't think in those games, there could be any... any taking of the torch. Well, the problem is the spurs don't play the thunder.

Yeah. And the spurs did, as Wemby mentioned, the spurs dominated the thunder when they played them earlier this year. Wimby was playing, in a couple of those games played like 20 minutes, was not like, was not the, which again, all of these arguments could be arguments as to why they're going to win the title, all these things. but the MVP is not a hypothetical award. It's not well what they could have done.

And so I just don't, Luca's in a weird spot. And it'd be, I want to say, one other thing about Luca and then we'll talk Joker. It's also really weird that he is treated this way, despite the fact that he has been every year of his playoff career, an absolute playoff killer. Just a killer is first year in the playoffs against what everyone thought was the best team

in the league. Kauai Paul George Clippers in that playoff series as a huge underdog puts up 31, 9, I'm sorry, 10 and 9. they lose in six his next year in the playoffs again against Paul George and Kauai Leonard he's being guarded 100% of his possessions by Pete Kauai and Paul George

they lose in seven as a big underdog he averages 36 8 and 10 his next year in the playoffs they're underdogs in round two against the favorite sons. He makes Devin Booker cry almost. Gives you 32, 10, and 6 that playoff run.

They then missed the playoffs one year. And his next time in the playoffs, he carries the Mavs to the finals, beating Shea, then beating Aunt. And then last year, obviously, wasn't, you know, he wasn't, he was 30 points a game in those playoffs again, in the one round against the Tim Rolls, that was a disaster for the Lakers. There's no doubt, no way around that. But it's just, is he a perfect player? No. Does he deserve more respect from the people and more,

and folks doing a closer introspection on, wait a minute. I didn't think the Lakers had any shot at contending. I thought the Lakers might miss the playoffs. Again, not Nick Wright, but folks, out there. They've got 50 wins. They've the same number of wins as Boston. They are, they've been the three seed, a good portion of the season, and are a huge favorite to be it. Bron has taken on another role. Austin suffered a major injury. The team is leaning heavily on DeAndre Aiton and Mark is smart. And Luke is just out there fire breathing every night. What's that worth?

All right, go ahead on Joker. Yolkich will average a triple double and be the first player to lead in rebounds and assist ever. If he hadn't already run a bunch, do you think that he'd be the front runner for the race? If he had zero MVP's, probably. Right. And listen, Daniel put in this, I'm not going to call it a whining question, but it felt a little whining from Nuggets fan Daniel when he says, Yokic is leveled up every year.

So is he just ineligible to win at this point? He's not ineligible to win. And he's having an awesome year. And if folks want to make the case that Yokic this year is having a more impressive season than some previous years when I didn't think he should have been MVP and he won it. So be it. But they are any

the nuggets I think by a hair as a team have underachieved this year. They have been awful in the clutch. They don't feel like frontline A-list contenders at the moment. And

Joker has three. MVP's. So I don't think people are when the three guys in my opinion ahead of him in the race, four if you include Jalen Brown, I don't

as far as ahead of Joker. All have better records. All their team and, you know, seems to be in a better position to win a championship. I'm not, I'm not

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Hertz and Siriani were scrutinized very heavily. More A.J. Brown frustrations came to light. Is this way worse than what you thought? I don't know if it's way worse than what I thought, but here's what I... Confirms it. Well, I also find it interesting that this story can exist. meaning that you had 10 people with the Eagles in various ways, kind of throwing shade at their franchise quarterback or their head coach,

that this story can't exist in Kansas City. You can't write it. You're not going to find three people, much less double-digit sources. They're going to be like, here's the problem with Patrick. This story can't exist in Buffalo. This story kind of existed in Baltimore. And the head coach got and that, but the head coach got is out.

Right. You know what I mean? Like the, um, it stories like this don't come out of thin air. And here is. So it just kind of rapid fire takeaways on it. You said more AJ Brown frustrations came to light. I looked at it a little bit differently. I looked at it as this story to me, DeMonsay, is a little confirmation as to why A.J. Brown being such a pain in the ass the last two years did not seem to hurt his popularity in that locker room or standing amongst teammates.

that even if AJ Brown's methods of messaging were clumsy or unprofessional, that it seems like there were enough people in that building that were like at least someone's saying something, that it, you know, created, inoculated him a bit from what I think could be problematic. if nobody was if everybody was like man a j such a diva just wants his stats everything else then i think a j would not still have been as stable in that locker room as he seemed to be so that you know that to me jumped another thing that jumped from this article was them really zeroing in on Jalen's there's leadership style and play style.

We'll start with play style. Jalen's allergy to playing the position certain ways, more under center, more play action turning his back to the defense, more pre-snap motions, those types of things that can make things easier for receivers and quarterbacks if they're willing to do it. and the way that truly limited their passing game. And Jalen not wanting to adjust from there.

Another piece of the story that I thought was really fascinating was one of the most criticized moments of the Eagles season, late in the year, 10-7 against Green Bay, when Siriani decided to go for a fourth down, and I'm going to pull up the time score situation exactly, because I remember us seeing when it happened, I came on the show and I couldn't believe it, that Siriani not only went for the fourth down,

now that obviously is his call. Oh, it wasn't late in the season. It was early in the season. Pardon me. I mean, the exact midway point of the year. year. But so here's the time score situation. Green Bay is out of timeouts. It is fourth and six for the Eagles at the Green Bay 35 yard line. So, and there's 33 seconds left. And so Siriani chose not to kick the field goal, which I think probably was smart because you miss

that field goal, you know, all of a sudden they're near midfield and felt they were too close to punt. I disagreed with that piece of it. I thought you punt, try to pin him back, whatever. He decided to go for it, which was, I thought, questionable, but then what we really criticized was the play call was a bomb down the left sideline from Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown. This article revealed, they just called that on their own. And that Jalen will occasionally just call stuff on his own or draw up routes essentially on his own. That was not what they'd practiced or what the play design was. Man, if you're going to do that, you need to have higher success rate at it than Jalen has had certainly last year.

I think that's fair. and then here is another criticism and then the big picture piece of it. They said in the article that Jalen's, you know, has this Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan's style of leadership. This is maybe going to be a controversial take. And I want to make sure I say it right. I don't know that Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan's leadership styles were good. I think they were effective. for them specifically.

And it would that leadership style is not in general the right way to be a leader and can only work if your individual excellence is unimpeachable. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, I was about to say because it's Kobe and Jordan. Right. Right. One of ones. Exactly.

So I just think that, again, people roll their eyes at my home stuff, but it's all true. It's not at all Patrick's style of leadership, the Kobe or Jordan style. But he's probably the only quarterback in the league that if it were, could get away with it. Like, what are we going to say to this guy? You know what I mean? He's the best. He is going to go down in history as the greatest or on the very, like Kobe on the very, on the very, short list of greatest. What are we going to do?

So I just, I think that could if I used the wrong comp on the TV show yesterday when this came up, but I want to use an NBA comp. Like, I don't think the Kobe or Jordan style of leadership would, if when, no, I can't use him because they didn't they they didn't have any success and jalen obviously has had a lot of success if tyrese halliburton was like the i have a cobia lebron style or cobia jordan style of leadership i think people might be like yeah okay yeah listen you're really good don't get me wrong but we're not quite there yet. And then here's the football read on it.

It's very simple. And this is where the Russell Wilson comps just continue a pace. Because Russell Wilson, like Jalen Hertz, went to two different colleges because one place didn't want him anymore. Like Russell Wilson, Jalen Hertz, has won every one. where like Russell Wilson, went to two Super Bowls very early, winning one, losing one.

Like Russell Wilson, particularly early in his career, had real questions about what a precise thrower he is. With that said, the one type of throw that from the very beginning he was excellent at was the deep ball, like Russell Wilson seemed to have very odd relationships with teammates. Like Russell Wilson, there was a real debate about,

how much credit he should get for winning a championship on that team with that style. And here is where Russell Wilson, to his credit, in the second half of his Seahawks career, adjusted, once Russell Wilson stopped being this dynamic scrambling running threat, he did develop as a better passer. Jaylen Hertz, his first full-time year as a starter ran for 785 yards. And the TD numbers are weird because of the tush-push piece of it. So I don't even know how to calculate those. His second year as a starter, he ran for 760 yards.

His first year, it was 5.6 a carry. His second year was 4.6 a carry. His third year as a starter, he ran for 605 yards. 3.9 yards of carry. His fourth year, fourth years of starter, he ran for 630 yards at 4.2 at carry, and last year he ran for

421 yards at 4.0 at carry. If you are going to no longer be a true dynamic on any snap, dual threat quarterback, you must do what Rust did and greatly improve

as a passer. Russell Wilson, his second year, third year as a starter, ran for 850 yards. By, you know, by 2018, his seventh year as a starter, that was down to three, he went from 850 his third year to 376 and no rushing touchdowns, his seventh year. But that year he threw for 35 touchdowns, seven and seven. interceptions had a 110 rating. The next two years, he had a combined 105 ratings, 71 touchdowns, 80 picks, and threw for more than 4,000 yards each year.

So if the running is not going to be as big of a part of your game, he's got to get better as a precision, fully developed passer. Or he's got to lean into the running. more like he used to. And this is the last thing I'll say on this to Mose. Siriani is obviously on the hot seat. Jalen Hertz seat is warmer than a guy who is

14 months removed from winning Super Bowl MVP's seat has any business being. Does that make like the, you would think he had a third. three year minimum grace period. Yeah. And it feels like it might be two year minimum grace period and then some. Did this not at all take away?

Uncomfortable conversations. Go ahead. This didn't take away any flack on Siriani. Like you don't think his seat got a little bit cooler with this? Well, it seems like some of the criticisms in the article was that Siriani. doesn't you know won't criticize jalen or won't you know isn't going to so i don't know i it did in that i i do give seriani credit on that play that i talked about against green bay

right he went to the press conference and said he called it right and uh you know throw him so i do he is good at taking blame for other guy stuff i and i think that's one of the reasons his players love him. And so I will give him credit for that. All right, we're going to talk about another quarterback in a second. But first, Boost Mobile is proving that you don't have to overpay for great wireless. Unlock the savings with the $25 a month forever unlimited plan. It's a permanent price with no contracts and no price hikes. You can keep your phone and your number, but you save up to $600 a year compared to the major carriers. Stop overpaying and switch to a fair price at boostmobile.com today based on average annual single line payment of AT&T Verizon and T mobile customers compared to 12 months on the Boost Mobile Unlimited plan as of January 2026 for full offer details visit boost mobile dot com

Hey it's us the Jonas brothers and guess what we have some big news what's the news news news news we created our own podcast called hey Jonas we invented a podcast well we didn't invent it we just contributed to us people to do podcast Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.

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Well, so they're all-time rank. So let me see if I can find. my all-time QB pyramid just to give it some context here. I'm pretty sure, hold on, I'm pretty sure an all-time mountain, I think, is what I called it. I have it in my docks.

Let me see if I can find it real quick. I apologize. Up the top area, like would they all be in the top ten? No. No. No way. No, no, no, no. So listen, Mahomes is, in my eyes, already too.

And the running down Brady is going to be hard. I understand that. I believe he can do it. But the smart bet for Mahomes is that he'll slot in it too. Right now this moment, who do you think is higher all time, DeMonze, Alan or Lamar? I'd have to give it to Lamar. I mean, obviously. I do, too.

Totally unbottised opinion. I agree with you. I agree with you. I think that even though um, even though Lamar has struggled, uh, in the post season, I still think that he is,

he, his two MVPs, his regular season numbers are so magnificent. And, I think that he is, okay, I finally found it. I think that he is ahead of Josh. I don't think he'll finish ahead of Josh.

Because I think he's more likely to win an MVP or to win a Super Bowl. Josh is than Lamar. So I think that Josh will finish like right around where. Steve Young Kurt Warner are which is for me like right outside the top 10

modern era and by modern era I mean post merger so I'm not counting Star Unitas Graham Baugh those guys are out so like the oldest

quarterbacks that I'm ranking are Staubach and Bradshaw but for me, the top 10 post-merger quarterbacks, again, not including the super old guys, Brady Mahomes, Manning, Montana, Marino Elway, Rogers Faw, Farr, Stawbach Bradshaw. That's your 10 with Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Troy Aitman, Drew Brees, and, you know, Lamar with two MVP's got to be. in that mix at the moment. I think

that Josh Allen is going to finish right around of the, you know, post-merger, Steve Young, Kurt Warner area. I think Lamar is going to finish right around

the Big Ben 15-16 area. And I think that Burrow is going to finish in the Matt Stafford area. Like 20, 22, something like that. Okay. Like outside, that's how I think it's going to go. And I don't know if that's going to be fair to Burrow,

but I think Burrow drew the nut low on franchise to be drafted. To be honest. Listen, I think Stafford's a great, I think what he's done. done with the Rams is unbelievable. But I can't put Stafford's career ahead of Big Ben or Drew Breeze. You know what I mean? I'll put him ahead of Philip Rivers, put him ahead of Eli Manning.

But like right now, I think Joe Burrow is an underdog to make the Hall of Fame. I just think that the injuries plus the lack of team success. and the, you know, that is just so putting, Stafford right now, I think just cemented himself as a Hall of Famer this past year with the MVP. So that's where I, you know, if we're doing all the time, that's a great question. I like that a lot. All right, next. Asa asks, do you think Lamar has overachieved everyone's early career expectations,

considering the fact that everyone, including his own team, passed on him in the first round? and also why does everyone love Joe Burrow more than Lamar? Well, I don't know that everyone loves Joe Borough more than Lamar, but there is a faction of folks that when they say who are the best quarterbacks, and I fall into this sometimes, what they are saying is who are the best passers. Yeah. Like they are removing, right, they are removing,

they are giving, like the credit you get for what you do with your legs somehow doesn't fall into like the quarterback rankings. And listen, I'm guilty of that sometimes. That probably is affected my feelings on Burrow, my feelings in the other direction on Jalen Hertz. For Lamar, I, you know, everybody knows my big hang up with Lamar is the postseason stuff that I just think he gets in his own head and doesn't play nearly as like himself.

But has he overachieved everyone's early career expectations? by a mile. Like, yeah, I mean, he, he was the final pick of the first round. And his first full-time year as a starter, he was unanimous MVP. I, so he has way over, he, he's, he would have overachieved people's early career expectations if he was the number one pick of the draft. He, and so like, I mean, he is. And I know this sounds. like damning with faint praise.

He is one of the greatest regular season players ever. Like, full stop. He is that, which is why he only needs one great playoff run or even one playoff run where he's not great, but the team wins anyway, to just be

stamped. Not that he's not already stamped, but that's... I know, right, but he... So, yes, but he has shattered expectation. Shattered. All right, next. Curtis asked, Nick, what is your Mount Rushmore are the greatest sports moments in history? So I am going to, there's two ways to answer this question.

One way is to like, just remove me from it. Be like the greatest sports moments ever. And then you're like, well, Jesse Owens making, right. So I, so I'm going to kind of like, like, if it was just like, like hey nick give me the definitive four greatest sports moments in history you'd have to be like well a lot of them are not even really sports it's like jacky robinson breaking the color barrier jesse owens making hitler look like a fool at the olympics in front of him um the miracle on ice it's a lot you know a lot of olympic social political things but he asked me me my so i'm going to do it my goosebumps favorite greatest sports moments that i've seen in my life

and i'm going to like so tiger winning his final masters in 2019 when he you know he hadn't won in a decade it looked like he was done that is on there for me LeBron's block in game seven of the finals on Iguodala leading to that championship, that is on there for me. The drive in overtime down three in the Super Bowl for Mahomes and the Chiefs to cement the dynasty and win back to back against the Niners. That's on there for me. And Usain Bolt at the Olympics,

just pounding his chest while finishing the 100 meter is on there for me. Just those are, those are, when I say, say them, I get goosebumps again. Those are, those are for me, my four favorite, watched it, can remember where I watched it, how I watched it, what I was doing moments for me as a sports fan. So, for whatever it's worth. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

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