The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - Bills INSANE press conference, Nick's Lamar Jackson Ravens-Raiders TRADE, NFL Awards | Nick Wright

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.  Nick Wright reacts to the wild Buffalo Bills press conference held by Terry Pegula and Brandon Beane - how should Josh Allen feel about the Bills' owner and ...president throwing shade at Sean McDermott & Keon Coleman? Later, Nick debates who has the better head coaching vacancy between the Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens, and if Lamar Jackson could be traded. After, Nick breaks down what the Chargers hiring Mike McDaniel does for Justin Herbert, and where LeBron James stands with the Los Angeles Lakers. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:34 well now I'm interested because I'm certain you don't know what it's about so now I'm a little curious what you thought it was about but we can save that maybe for off the air because what I am because this is after all year long you embarrass me by crushing your teasers while I just scuttle along as a 500 picker of games you then come the playoffs decide you're going to start picking games too and you're crushing me. It's just a total debacle on my end. What's happened?
Starting point is 00:03:13 And so, yeah, I mean, that's not, I'm certain. Well, that's what I think. I think maybe next year we each do five picks unrelated to each other and maybe I also start doing a teaser. Maybe I drink your milkshake
Starting point is 00:03:31 a little bit. um and so uh so there's that oh i mean it's a line from my favorite movie of all time uh and so i drink your milkshake uh so here's the deal oh there you go um tomorrow's show is our gambling show and our picks show there are only two games so that would be a very very short show so we are what we would typically do here we're previewing this weekend's games on Thursday, we're going to save most of the preview of the two conference championship games for tomorrow. Wrap it into our pick show.
Starting point is 00:04:13 So that is why the docket is what the docket is today. So today, you know, there's still plenty of news to get to, and we will get to all of it, including some really interesting Lakers reporting that we will get to later in the show, and the NFL awards ballots, the awards finalists, I should say, coming out all of that. But we're going to start the show with the Bills Press Conference disaster class from yesterday. But before we do that, let's go straight to voicemail brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Warriors General Manager Mike Dunleavy with, I, listen, I just got to say it.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Oh, good, a legit bar when talking about Jonathan Cominguez trade demand. quote, in terms of demands, when you make a demand, there needs to be a demand on the market. Damn. That's a nice lot. I feel bad for Jonathan Camingo. What's going on over there with him and the Warriors? I mean, this is like the seventh different iteration of them being unhappy with each other. As good as that line is, I do wonder if Dunleavy had he known Jimmy Butler was going to go down with a torn ACL if he would have.
Starting point is 00:05:28 maybe kept that in his holster a bit. The Knicks have a player's only meeting and then beat the nets by 54 points. And Baker Mayfield welcomes Kevin Stefanski to the NFC South by saying he's still waiting on a call and text from him after he got shipped off like a piece of garbage. Can't wait to see it twice a year, coach. Very quickly, important. This very succinct. tweet there's some real wisdom that can be learned from it and that is always make the uncomfortable effort
Starting point is 00:06:15 because if you don't it will sit with you and with the other person like that is i'm not going to trying to be too deep i'm not but the the the everyone you always end up let me rephrase it you never regret the final chapter phone call text note email whatever and you almost always do regret if you can never get the stomach up to do it and i've done i've done i'm I've had both sides of that coin where I have or I haven't. Now, people might be thinking I'm like giving relationship advice here. This isn't like romantic relationship advice because that's something that I don't have like experience in. Like I've been I've been in one relationship for basically the entirety of my 20s and all of my 30s and I'm now in my 40s.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But the, I have had people that I worked with very closely for years that then left and I no longer worked with them. And I, I know the sick feeling I'm sure Kevin Stefansky had of, man, do I need, this is not going to be a fun conversation with Baker Mayfield. but years later, I'm sure he wishes he had done it. And you, the sense, and I have been in the spot where there's a couple people that I never made that phone call or text. And I, to this day, I'm like, well, I mean, it's obviously too late now. And you just feel badly about it. And you always feel better on the other side of it, having done it. even if the actual experience of it is uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So, you know, I know this is maybe a little deeper than we thought we'd start the show with, but I saw that and I was like, man, that's a, that is, there's a life lesson in there. And, you know, it was, to me, it's one worth spending a moment on. All right, reminder everybody, like, rate, subscribe, review to the show, because not only do you get, I mean, just the greatest sports takes around. but occasionally you get like wow maybe that actually will improve my life a little bit of i wouldn't call it life advice but just you know wisdom from someone that's made a lot of mistakes on things like that and wants people to do better um and so subscribe to the pod it helps us out we really do appreciate it
Starting point is 00:09:09 uh damonze the bill's owner and new grand poohba CEO of everything brandon bean had a press conference it was interesting i could talk about this for six hours yeah i'll try to limit it to like twenty minutes let's get into it the bills have given you some more fire some more stuff to talk about um so the bill season ended last week and the owner came out and threw mcdermon in the second year keon colmer or i receiver under the bus saying that that was mcdermott's guy that was his thing um as a former bill's hater this has got to make you pretty happy huh well i mean no i'm not going to it makes me happy. It was a window into, I had been saying that I think the Bill's job is better than the Ravens job.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And the reason I am focused on, by the way, on these job openings is, and I do not think this can be reiterated enough. these types of jobs, de Monzae, never come open. MVP quarterback who's not yet 30, that job being open in the last 55 years of the NFL, there has been one other MVP quarterback in his 30s, had a head coach opening. He was Brett Farr. And Farrv's job came open for very different reasons.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Mike Holmgren was the coach of the Packers. They won a Super Bowl with Fav. They went to another one. He then wanted more power. He wanted to be the GM and head coach. The Packers wouldn't give him that job. So he resigned. And so that created the opening.
Starting point is 00:11:09 He went to Seattle to, to go do it there, and they hired a guy named Ray Rhodes. Ray Rhodes lasted one year. They then fired him, and they hired Mike Sherman. So prior to two weeks ago, the only MVP quarterback in their prime, in their 30s, who had ever dealt with a head coach vacancy was Brett Farve and it happened twice, but under very different circumstances. They didn't want to move on from the initial coach, and then they hired the wrong guy they felt in Ray Rhodes.
Starting point is 00:11:45 We have two of them right now. Lamar and Josh Allen. And so it is Aaron Rogers having a head coach opening when they moved on from Mike McCarthy to Matt LaFleur when he's in his mid-late 30s was surprising. if not shocking. Peyton Manning in Denver and you might be like, wait,
Starting point is 00:12:15 they changed coaches in Indy with Peyton, but he hadn't won an MVP yet. Like that was when he was very young. So this is stunning that this exists. And I just, it is a seismic event
Starting point is 00:12:29 in the NFL for one of these jobs to be open, much less two of the jobs to be open. To get back to what I was saying, I had been saying the Bill's job is a better job than the Ravens job. But man, Steve Boshadhi gave a press conference, and you're like, oh, I can see why that guy is so successful. Matter of fact, seems to, you know, own the room, very assured of himself, knows what he's doing. And I watched Terry Pagula, and I was like, oh, boy, it's not great.
Starting point is 00:13:04 and so that I don't know if it's enough to jump the Ravens job in my mind ahead of the bill's job but it is instructive the other thing that was very instructive and I want to be again I don't know if Terry Pagul is telling the truth or not telling the truth but you got to take him at his word on at least some of this stuff or let me rephrase it you have to at least be open to the possibility that he's telling the truth. And Terry Pagula confirmed something that I hypothesized on TV and on this pod earlier this week, that he determined they had to fire Sean McDermott essentially because of how devastated Josh Allen was. and that's why I hammered and focused on Alan crying.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And I knew it was, I was running the risk of either sounding like a Neanderthal guy, like men don't cry. I've cried on this pod multiple times. Like, that's not what, that's not what I was trying to communicate. And I'm certainly, as a guy that wears makeup and talks for a living, wasn't, at trying to act like I'm Mr. Tough Guy compared to Josh freaking Allen. The reason I was hammering on, he's that distraught that he is sobbing in the locker room, reportedly, and teary-eyed at the press conference, is that is a massive signal that that team might be broken. and Terry Bagula comes out on Wednesday and says when he walks in the locker room and Josh Allen doesn't even acknowledge him because he's, quote, sobbing, that's when he knew they had to change the coach.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Which also, again, this is why it's a tough press conference to Monzae. That's even if that's true, that's a shitty thing to put on Josh Allen's shoulder. Alders. Oh, yeah. And also, but he, Josh Allen played poorly in the game. He was crying. But it's probably because of something that he did, though.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I mean, they lost the game, but, I mean, I don't feel you have to fire McDermott because the, the result was so bad, but the result was so bad directly related to Josh Allen. Right. Like, I guess I'll put a fine point on what you're saying, I believe. It would be more damning for, the, you know, kind of trajectory of the team, had that been Josh Allen's reaction after they lost
Starting point is 00:16:10 in a game he played awesome? Where it would have just felt, I think, like what you, what I think you're getting at is Josh Allen was that emotional because he felt like he let his team down. Not necessarily that we're never going to get over the hump. But I'm, you know, this, for these three hours, I wasn't myself. I wasn't good. I let the guys down. And that's, and so I think that's, listen, that makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:16:41 There's, the, and Pagula was, you know, said he did not, going into that game, he did not think he was going to end up firing the coach even if they lost. But then after the game, when he saw the reactions, that's when he knew it. it. But he also seemed very clearly to believe they lost because they got robbed. So that logically, it doesn't
Starting point is 00:17:10 really, he said at the press conference, we lost because of a bad call. And he said to Josh Allen, I thought it was a catch. So those things, oh yeah, that's insane. Yeah. And so if you're Sean McDermott, you're like, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:17:27 So you're saying we thought, you thought, you thought what I thought that we won, but I'm fired because of it. And so the whole thing seems, let's call it haphazard. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
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Starting point is 00:21:50 even if the press conference was an embarrassment, that potentially, changing the head coach had to be done. Because in 2020, you reached the AFC championship game ahead of schedule. Josh Allen explodes onto the scene in his first real superstar year. The chiefs clock you, but that was peak, peak early chiefs. Defending Super Bowl champs, that year they lost one game where Mahomes started, that, you know, trying to go back to back. And in the off season, you say, your GM, Brandon Bean, says,
Starting point is 00:22:33 we are obsessed with Kansas City. We are building a team with them in mind. That's, so 2020 is not a, even though you lose in the AFC title game, you feel great about the year. And then after that, your seasons end as follows. The 13 seconds game, which they're still not over. Clearly. Still not over.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That was five years ago. Still not over it. The next year, you have the Damar Hamlin situation late in the year and then go into the playoffs and Cincinnati comes into your building and just clocks you. And it does kind of feel like that because that Bill's performance in that particular playoff game was so. disparate from how we'd seen them in playoff games before that you wonder if having a teammate die in front of you on the field against the bangles in the regular season and then playing the bangles in the playoffs if it was just too much then the next year you finally have the chiefs in your building for the first time in the playoffs and you miss
Starting point is 00:23:55 a field goal to tie the game and then the next year you're back in the AFC championship game for the first time since 2020 against the Chiefs and you come up short and then the next year the Chiefs finally aren't in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:24:12 you're playing a Broncos team you have the lead in the fourth quarter and you lose an overtime and feel like even though you're incorrect on this you got screwed so I do think there's just too much scarc
Starting point is 00:24:28 tissue. You probably needed to move on. But the messaging was so clunky. And here's where the Keon Coleman thing, I think, is most interesting. Because obviously, De Manze, like, they torch the kid. And the owner torches. He's still on the team and all of that. He's still on the team at a position you have no depth. he is cost controlled, he's young,
Starting point is 00:25:02 he's still obviously has potential, and maybe, and you would have wanted, in theory, DeMonsei, the next head coach to evaluate him and make a decision, do you think, you know, you can, he's basically playing for free as a second round pick on a rookie deal,
Starting point is 00:25:23 or should we cut bait? But now, because of, what was said about him at the press conference where people are like, no, the guy who's still here didn't want him and the guy who's not here did want him. So that's obviously clunky and bad for all involved and Brandon Bean tried to clean it up after. But here is what to me is instructive about that. Forget the fact that there is plenty of the bills that have you seen any of on Twitter to Monaster? say the the clips of the bill's draft documentary from the keon coleman draft um no but it is it seems like it contradicts what the uh owner was well brandon bean certainly seems excited about being able
Starting point is 00:26:15 to draft keon coleman like that and so and it again maybe he's putting on a good brave face do I believe that maybe there was a player available at 33 that Bean had slightly higher than Keon Coleman, but sure. But it doesn't, at no point does it seem like Bean is, you know, exactly right. And it is his decision. The other piece of the, and I'm going to get back to the Keon Coleman thing, but this is important. The other piece of the press conference that was noteworthy was Brandon Bean getting very animated. talking about how devastated he, his wife, his family have been by some of the commentary that he stabbed Sean McDermott in the back and questioning his character and
Starting point is 00:27:08 not who he is, any of those things. And I'm not alleging he stabbed anybody in the back. I am saying this. Somebody told the owner of the team at some point this year. The front office, meaning Brandon Bean, did not want Keon Coleman the coaching staff did somebody told him that
Starting point is 00:27:37 and the most obvious answer as to who would have told him that is Brandon Bean now at the press conference Brandon Bean then tried to clean it up and he's like they're all my picks like it's my responsibility and blah blah but I don't I'm not
Starting point is 00:27:54 saying that qualifies as stabbing anyone in the back but there was a level of that wasn't my pick that was the coaching staff's pick. But here DeMonse is where, and this is the piece that I think people have skipped over,
Starting point is 00:28:10 it makes it even more dysfunctional. Sean McDermott is a head coach, obviously, but he's a defensive head coach. He calls the defense. That's his side of the ball. So if the coaching
Starting point is 00:28:29 staff really liked Keon Coleman, The loudest voice about which receiver we should take in the draft of the coaching staff likely would not be McDermott. But would be the offensive coordinator, Joe Brady, who is still on the staff and interviewing to be the head coach. So when the owners like the GM didn't want the player, the coaches did, in all likelihood, the coach who wanted the player that you're so out on, you're flaming at this press conference, you are interviewing to maybe be the next head coach. It ain't great. It's all over the place. I mean, it really, it ain't great.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And I honestly think that it will be good for Keon Coleman in a weird way like here in this type. because I do think he's a little, a little childish, and his production obviously wasn't what it needed to be this year. And I think that, I think that that might work out in a more positive way than negative. He maybe ends up leaving the team or they end up getting rid of him.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But I think if he's on the bills next year, probably have more production. Wherever he is next year, whether it's bills or elsewhere, this right now is a fork in the road moment for that young man's career. And fork in the road doesn't always mean good. sometimes you take the fork in the road cadaris tony took after the chiefs gave him chance after chance after chance and you're no longer cadarious tony NFL wide receiver your young joker failing rapper and like that's the uh you know it's like but the
Starting point is 00:30:15 the and sometimes the fork in the road moment or yeah or i mean I we even outside of sports a lot of us in our early 20s both people on this pod in our early 20s had moments of immense failure and embarrassment and it was all right is that enough for me to be like grow up yeah and you know what I'd be like for real and that is like and so I the for Kionn Coleman again the how do you move the glass half half full is
Starting point is 00:31:00 I can prove all I can prove everyone wrong whether it's with Buffalo or wherever I am I am going to the I've become a punch line and I am young enough and healthy enough that it wouldn't be I
Starting point is 00:31:21 want to make sure I keep saying he's 22 I want to make sure, and I don't want to spend it. Yeah, I mean, Kiann Coleman is, he's played two years in the league, but he came, I was right about this. He came in super young. He's 22. He turns 23 in May. So like, he's younger than some receivers that will be drafted this year. And so he just has the opportunity to be like, I've got 10 years of NFL football ahead of me to make this be, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:53 a sidebar of my story. And the other fork in the road is, he can watch that press conference. Be like, man, F those guys. I'm going back to bed. And I don't know. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I'm not going to.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And so that's, but it does make, everything about this bill's job is so interesting to me. And here's the other piece of it, DeMonze. That as I'm talking to you, Brandon Cooks is on Good Morning Football saying at the end of the day, it was a catch. Yeah, guys, you got to get over it. You can't. That doesn't move you forward. He didn't even really act as if it was a catch during the game.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Well, that's the other thing. That's the other thing. disappointed. That's the other thing. He did not respond like someone who thought they had caught the ball. He responded like someone correct. A hundred percent correct. And we can't, I don't think we have the rights to show, and I know we don't have the rights to show like old NFL footage on here. But it's worth a, it. It's worth a, it. It's worth a Google or throwing into YouTube for folks. During the game where 90s playoffs, Packers Niners,
Starting point is 00:33:35 the game where Terrell Owens made one of the greatest catches, young T.O. catches it in the end zone and gets annihilated to win a playoff game against Brett Barb's Packers, Steve Young throws him in the past. On that drive, or certainly in that game, Jerry Rice, catches the ball, has it stripped. Like, when he's upright, the ball is stripped. And the ball basically rolls right down his leg. I'm doing this from memory, but I know I'm right.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And he just kind of nonchalantly grabs the ball, signals first down, and jogs to the huddle. and his lack of reaction is why nobody realized it was a fumble. Like his, he was so, like, he didn't, like, it was no panic, no even quick, like, anything. And so, like, the bot, now, that's a, he could have gotten the ball and just kept running to the touchdown? No, no, no, no, no, he was down. But I'm saying he fumbled before he was down, but did not react like a player who thought there was a fumble. and so the refs didn't even stop to look like, wait, was there a phone?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Is it natural? Now, to get us back on track quickly, the most interesting piece of this left is we haven't heard from Josh Allen yet. And I don't know when we will, but the fact that we haven't means maybe we won't. At least, yeah, obviously at some point he'll talk. But I find all that interesting, and I find the Bill's head coach search, very interesting. But this to me is one of the best jobs, two of the 10 best job openings that the NFL has had in my life are open right now.
Starting point is 00:35:48 and if Brian Dable goes from being fired by the Giants to the head coach of the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen, I don't know what the comp for that is in my business, but I feel like it's like being fired from being one of the hosts on the Beast games to all of a sudden you're the lead anchor of 60 minutes. It's like, oh, shit, this worked out really great for me. I don't know how it happened, but check me out. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I don't think hiring Davis Webb, who claims he's Josh Allen's best friend is the way to go. I don't think running it back with your offensive coordinator, Joe Brady or your former offensive coordinator, Brian Dable, is the way to go. Luana Rumo, first time head coach would be the former D coordinator for the Bengals, is interesting. But it's, you know, I said Belichick, everyone in the world hates that idea except me. Tomlin's not coming. So I don't know where you go.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And Tonyo Pierce is out there somewhere. That would be a disaster. You can't hire Antonio Pierce. So I don't know what they do. but I'm super interested in it. All right, today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet, Florida's Sportsbook. Folks, these playoffs have been unbelievable, and I hope you've been cashing in on the unexpected moments on Hard Rock Bet.
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Starting point is 00:39:29 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide. range of podcasts throughout there.
Starting point is 00:39:42 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the
Starting point is 00:39:56 early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:16 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Side, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam, it's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
Starting point is 00:41:25 he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing That man, hell get the flying.
Starting point is 00:41:42 He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly, he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy. But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like?
Starting point is 00:42:29 No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever, because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:43:02 or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, DeMonze, I threw out a trade on TV yesterday I don't think it's dumb seems like I'm in the minority and not thinking my own trade idea is dumb go ahead and let's talk it through
Starting point is 00:43:27 all right so we're running out of games to talk about so it's rumor slash trade talk time of the year people are throwing around trades and rumors a trade or rumor that you co-signed was Lamar for Max Crosby and the number one pick which will probably be Mendoza to the Raiders? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I would not like that. So listen. No, well, you might just become a Raider fan. That'd be hard. You can just follow Lamar. But yeah, Lamar and Gentile would be pretty cool. So here's the deal. I don't,
Starting point is 00:44:03 I'm not saying this. And I didn't just create this out of thin air. The ESPN did like bold predictions for the offseason. And one of them was, could Tom Brady and the Raiders make a play for Lamar Jackson? I don't know that I think the Raiders, after watching them and believing in them this year, are close enough to make a move even for Lamar Jackson. However, I am more interested in this from the Ravens side of it.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And I don't know who the next Ravens head coach is going to be. but whomever it is I think in the universe where this was available you get the equivalent I believe of demands a five first round
Starting point is 00:45:05 picks the equivalent of five first round picks for Lamar and by that I mean Max Crosby on the open market is worth two firsts and we know the number one pick given the Bryce Young trade, the equivalent that it's worth is a little more than three,
Starting point is 00:45:27 you know, middle, average first round picks. I know number one pick is literally one first round pick, but it's, in order to get it, you would have to trade like the 15th pick and two future first to move up that far. So this is the equivalent of, you know, call five first round picks. and you would not be like, all right, well, now we're in the quarterback wilderness, because, no, you might end up being if Mendoza's not the guy, but you're not trading for the number one overall pick blind,
Starting point is 00:46:01 saying, you know, or trading for a future year pick when you don't know who the players are that you'd be taking. You would know you are taking Fernando Mendoza. And the point that the reason I find this interesting from the Raven perspective, this theoretical fake trade that ESPN alluded to it and then I put a fine tooth comb on, or a finer point on, I should say. I do think that it is a legitimate discussion. What is a better path to winning a championship? Young quarterback on a rookie scale plus max,
Starting point is 00:46:47 Crosby plus the extra 40 some million dollars of cap space to build out the rest of the roster. Or Lamar Jackson, who will enter next year undoubtedly as the highest paid player in the league on a 60 plus million dollar a year contract. And it is worth noting the two super super. Super Bowls the Ravens have won. They won with cheap quarterbacks and stacked rosters. The Denver Broncos are attempting this right now. I know Bo Nix is now out, but young quarterback, all this talent around them.
Starting point is 00:47:37 The Patriots, I, you know, don't think they actually have all that much talent around them. I think the job May and Brable have done is unbelievable, but they, they, spent money this off season. They have more money to spend this next off season. I'm not breaking news that good young cheap quarterback who gives you franchise quarterback play on rookie quarterback salary at a bunch of pieces has been a very successful model. And then when you add to it, what I think could be some squeamishness for the Ravens of a brand new contract for Lamar after, at the very least we can call it, an injury-riddled year,
Starting point is 00:48:32 I think it's worth a real discussion. And it is, I also want to make this part clear. this is not an insult to Lamar because if I were the Raiders I would not again this is we're playing in double hypothetical worlds here but let's say the Raiders offered this to the Ravens Max Crosby and the number one pick for Lamar and the Ravens said no thank you
Starting point is 00:49:11 and then the Bengals heard it had been offered. And they called the Raiders. And they said, we'll take it for Joe Burrow. If I'm the Raiders, I wouldn't do that deal. I don't think Joe Burrow is worth the number one overall pick plus Max Crosby. Because even with Lamar having an injury riddled year, Joe, to me, is an even bigger injury risk than Lamar. and Joe has not shown consistent regular season,
Starting point is 00:49:50 first team all pro level play, the way Joe has one year like that in his career, the way Lamar has. So it is, there's, there are only three veteran quarterbacks in the league that if I were the Raiders, I would offer this package up for. Lamar, Josh, and Patrick. Obviously, the chiefs and the bills, there's nothing you could offer those teams
Starting point is 00:50:24 to get them to trade Josh or Patrick. The Ravens, given how this last year went, the new head coach, Lamar's pending contract situation, I just wonder if the door is creaked open. To the point of, if the Ravens were even considering this, why would they have fired Harbaugh again now we're in like quadruple hypotheticals what I will tell you is this they if they wanted the Harbaugh-Lamar relationship that partnership could not continue and had they kept Harbaugh then Lamar really has a hammer because he also does have a no trade clause in his
Starting point is 00:51:14 deal so you might say Nick you're talking about a trade he has no trade clause players again, can waive those and can make it, can decide, you know, kind of steer where they want to go potentially because of it. I just think it is not, I think the Lamar contract is going to be a big enough story this offseason that this is, of all the fake trades that exist, Amaze, this is not, not total whole cloth. Like that, I do think that there will be some of that discussion over the offseason. So you're saying, I'm not predicting it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Crosby, Mendoza, and no more picks? Like, that's it for more? No. What I'm saying is. What I'm saying is, right? No. No, no, no. What I'm saying is the number one overall pick to acquire that by itself usually takes three first round picks. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And to acquire Max Crosby would take two first round picks. So I'm saying this is the equivalent and value of five first round picks. But the trade would be essentially Fernando Mendoza and Max Crosby for Lamar Jackson. And so you're out on it. Most people are out on it. Yeah, no. I mean, if it were multiple, I thought it was going to be multiple. But I see what you're saying in it being multiple first to equal the number one pick of the draft.
Starting point is 00:52:47 but yeah um but yeah no that's not enough i need some more retooling if we're getting rid of lamar um but so well that's the thing is this i don't think and by the way i guess you're off the books you get all the get all the money off of lamar's contract right and it wouldn't just be here's the other thing you wouldn't be doing this being like all right we're rebuilding you'd be doing it saying we have we saw the windows right now the commanders the patriots the patriots the Bears and the Broncos in the last two years have all made the divisional rounder further with a quarterback that was either a rookie or in his second year. Like we are going for this right now.
Starting point is 00:53:31 All right. I want to discuss this Baxter Holmes, Lakers, Jeannie Buss-Lebron's story. You guys tell me, I don't mind DeManzai's background being off. We can fix that later. They're oh, it's back. Look at that. Go ahead. So yesterday, Baxter Holmes of ESPN dropped a story about the sale of the Lakers and the piece.
Starting point is 00:53:54 He also discussed how Jeannie Bus grew frustrated with LeBron and didn't even want to sign him to a new contract in 2024. You even talked about shipping them off to the Clippers. What do you make of all this? Okay. So a couple. And Jeannie Buses today came out and, you know, basically refuted some of this. Let me say this on the front end. The thrust of this story.
Starting point is 00:54:18 story is not about LeBron. And everyone should read the story. It is superb reporting by a superb reporter in Baxter Holmes who does great work, really great work for ESPN. And, you know, it is very long and very good about the bus family and the sale of the Lakers, okay? If I were doing Los Angeles talk radio, that would be one of the, the major topic of the day. On this platform, I don't know how many people care about the palace intrigue of the bus family sale of the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:55:09 So I'm going to focus on the LeBron piece of it because I am interested in that. But again, I just want to give credit to the story and to Baxter for, and say on the front end, this is not the general plot point of the story. But I'm going to read you the LeBron section, and then I'm going to briefly explain why it enrages me. From Baxter Holmes' story. Team sources told ESPN she even began to turn against the Lakers' start. player LeBron James. Jeannie privately grumbled, people close to the team say, about what she felt was James's outsized ego and the overt control that he in clutch sports, which represents both James and Davis, exerted over the organization. She didn't like that James was considered a savior for a floundering
Starting point is 00:56:08 franchise when he arrived in 2018, and that it was he who chose the Lakers rather than the team's leadership receiving praise for landing him. More on that in a moment. Team sources have been adamant for years that James's camp informed the Lakers as early as 2017 that he was coming to join them when he became a free agent the following year. The distance between Jeannie and James widened after the Lakers traded for Russell Westbrook in July of 2021. The team had made the trade in an effort to appease James, but the acquisition backfired in catastrophic fashion. L.A. went 33 and 49 missed the playoffs and James seemed to wash his hands of his role in the acquisition. Jeannie privately bristled about what she felt was his lack of accountability and the way James would shift blame onto others after the Westbrook trade, people said.
Starting point is 00:56:57 In 2022, in the aftermath of the Westbrook trade, multiple people said Jeannie privately mused about not giving James a contract extension, even about trading James, with the Clippers floated as a possibility. This was before James received a contract extension with a no trade clause for two years $104 million. And when the Lakers drafted James' son Brani with the 55th pick, Jeannie privately remarked that James should be grateful for such a gesture, but she felt he wasn't. That summer, as she discussed new contract for James, Jeannie seemed more resigned to the fact that they'd have to do it, almost begrudgingly accepting they'd take a massive PR hit by not doing so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:44 reason this that's the that's the piece and now this is me not reading the piece just talking the reason lebron james considered himself a savior for a floundering franchise was simply because he was a savior for a floundering franchise it's not complicated it's not weird it's not weird it's not hard to fucking parse. The reason LeBron considered the Lakers a floundering franchise is because before he got there, they were a floundering franchise.
Starting point is 00:58:30 And the reason he considered himself a savior was because within two years of getting there, they won the championship. The Los Angeles Lakers had never been bad. Back to Minneapolis, DeMonse. Their second year in existence in the league, actually no, pardon me, their first year in existence when they went from the Detroit gyms, who were bad, to the Minneapolis Lakers
Starting point is 00:59:04 with George Mikan, they won the championship. They then won a bunch more championships in the 50s. Then in the 60s, they went to the finals almost every year. year, lost to the Celtics, a bunch. Then, in the 70s, they got Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and then in the 80s were the most successful team in the NBA. Then in the 90s, they had their one tiny downturn, which was a 33-win team that missed the playoffs. And shortly thereafter, they got Shaquille O'Neal and drafted Kobe Bryant or traded for him and they were awesome again.
Starting point is 00:59:53 The Los Angeles Lakers, I'm giving the full context here, prior to the 2010s de Monzae, here is the full list of years they were not in the playoffs. Either Minneapolis or Los Angeles. 1958
Starting point is 01:00:13 Okay 1975 and 76 That's when they traded for Cream 1994 and 2005 That's the list From the 50s Until the 2010s
Starting point is 01:00:36 They had always been excellent flourishing And then in the five years before LeBron got there, they missed the playoffs five times and won the following number of games. 27, 21, 17, 26, 35. So all of Lakers history,
Starting point is 01:01:09 five years missed the playoffs from Minneapolis to L. across damn near 65 years. And then the five years before LeBron got there, they missed the playoffs five times. Their finishes in the Western Conference, again, 15 teams in the Western Conference. The five years before LeBron got there, 14th, 14th, 15th, 14th, 14th, 14th, 14th, 14th.
Starting point is 01:01:42 They were arguably the worst team in basketball for a half decade. That is a floundering franchise that was saved. One, some people think that if you save something or someone, you might consider yourself a savior, by LeBron James wanting to move to Los Angeles. not by Rob Belinka or Jeannie Bus's fancy PowerPoint presentation. So that is what happened. Now, does LeBron have an outsized ego? I've heard that.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Does Clutch Sports exhibit a lot of influence over the Lakers? Seems to be, did LeBron James want Russell Westbrook? Yes. Did that work out? No. But LeBron James wanted a bunch of things. LeBron James wanted Ty Lou to be his coach. They said no to that.
Starting point is 01:02:56 LeBron James wanted Paul George on the Lakers. That didn't happen. LeBron, there's plenty of things LeBron wanted they didn't do, and plenty of things LeBron wanted they did do. The Lakers choosing to say yes to the request for Russell Westbrook, because the Lakers brand is stars when they had said no to other things and yes to other things and then acting like LeBron is the one who called it into the league office and washing their hands of it entirely.
Starting point is 01:03:33 But then also whining about LeBron, helping them get Anthony Davis, which then allowed them to get Luke Adanches and win a chance. championship is laughable. And complaining to people a year after the guy wins finals MVP for you and you win a championship that you don't want to give him a contract extension and you might actually trade him, only to give him a two-year max contract extension with a no trade clause, is laughable. Dr. Jerry Buss was one of the greatest owners in the history. history of pro basketball.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Jeannie Bus, by all accounts, is an incredibly nice person who has a lot of friends in the media. The new owners of the Lakers are going to get the team back on the track it had been for Dr. Jerry Bus's entire tenure and the track that. It had fallen off of entirely until LeBron James came to Los Angeles and saved the damn team. Are you thinking about upgrading to the all-new iPhone 17 Pro? Designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever, but you're also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all your data. Good news.
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Starting point is 01:05:57 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's the one's... extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 01:06:11 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas. And I'll it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 01:06:39 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam, it's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
Starting point is 01:07:49 he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying.
Starting point is 01:08:05 He running the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad. But secretly, he became someone else, a master. of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea?
Starting point is 01:08:38 It seemed very crazy. But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life?
Starting point is 01:09:05 That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Damazzi, let's go down to the NFL. awards piece of this because we're not going to have enough time
Starting point is 01:09:37 to do everything that I want to do. So let's do that here. So the list of finalists drop for NFL awards. You still do not have a vote, so you have to make your picks here. So what would your picks be for the awards? Okay. So listen, MVP, the finalists are
Starting point is 01:09:53 literally, and this makes me happy, the five finalists I would have had. Stafford, May, Alan, Christian McAfre who I'm very glad to see was a finalist and Trevor Lawrence. And so all of that is, I maybe would have flipped in Miles Garrett for Josh, but I probably not. These would have been my finalist.
Starting point is 01:10:17 My ballot of these five would be Stafford 1, Drake May 2, Christian McCaffrey 3, Trevor Lawrence 4, Josh Allen 5. And I'm so happy for Trevor that he's an MVP finalist. That is sick. All right. Next one, DeMonte, tell me the category and the nominees. So you got Coach of the Year. We got Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen, Mike McDonald, Kyle Shanahan, and Mike Raywell. My vote for this would be Kyle Shanahan.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Yeah. I thought the fact that that team was playing for the one seed, the final week of the year. I know the playoffs don't count in this, but they ended up going to Philly and winning a playoff game, dealing with all those injuries. There are, I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:10 the other four candidates, all five of these guys, DeMonsay, have an unbelievable case to me. Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen, and Mike Brable, all taking four or five win teams from last year and getting them,
Starting point is 01:11:29 they all won their division. They all, you know, were two or three seeds. Like that was remarkable. Mike McDonald, getting 14 wins with Seattle, but my vote would be for Shanahan. Next.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Next, we got assistant coach of the year. Brian Flores, Clint Kubiak, of Vic Fangio, Josh McDaniels, and Vance Joseph. I want to say this on the front end.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I am surprised Robert Sala was not nominated. It was not one of the finalists. Yep. I thought, that he had done an amazing job, and the league agrees, he got a head coaching job out of it. My vote here,
Starting point is 01:12:10 so if people don't know, Brian Flores, D-Corpsator for the Vikings, Clint Kubiak, offensive coordinator for the Seahawks, Vic Fangio, de-coordinator for the Eagles, Josh McDaniels,
Starting point is 01:12:21 offensive coordinator for the Patriots, Vance Joseph, defensive coordinator for the Broncos. My vote here would be Josh McDaniels. I think that when you have a second-year, quarterback and Drake May and you cater an offense so beautifully to his exact strengths. I don't think they have great receivers or great running backs.
Starting point is 01:12:43 They scored a ton of point like they were just an elite team all year long offensively. So I would say Josh McDaniels there. Next. Offensive player of the year, Puka Nakua, Bijan Robinson, Christian McCaffrey, Jackson, Smith, and Jigua, and Drake May. gotta be Puka guys unbelievable this is pretty tough
Starting point is 01:13:10 it's tough for me it would come down to Pooker or CMC okay um JSN 3rd Bjean 4th and I like
Starting point is 01:13:23 I also by the way this is the first real signal we have de Manze other than first team All Pro that Matt Stafford won MVP. Oh, the Drake May is an offensive player of the year as well? I think that is a signal that people who voted Stafford MVP... Like, we got to get May something.
Starting point is 01:13:52 He bought out. Correct. Gabe Drake May offensive player of the year. Right. And so, like, I don't know what the betting odds are right now for MVP, but this piece of news to me would put Stafford at minus 500. I think Stafford, like, I am, I'd wait for a lot of money. You parlay, uh, probably not. No, but I don't think, listen, I don't think Drake May is going to win offensive
Starting point is 01:14:23 player of the year. Offensive player of the year typically is another way to say best non-quarterback. Um, and so Puka or CMC, would be good with me. I would give it to CMC just because I thought he was the Niners' offense this year. All right, next.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Defensive player of the year, we got Miles Garrett, Micah Parsons, Will Anderson, Jr., Aiden Hutchinson, and Nick Benito. Micah Parsons is eligible? Well, I mean, he played 13 games. You know what I mean? No, there's no minimal. in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:15:05 There's no, they just, it's whoever, you know, where people got votes. But I mean, Miles Garrett's going to win it unanimously. So it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Like, Miles Garrett's obviously the answer here. Go ahead. We got comeback player of the year. Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey, Stephan, Diggs, Trevor Lawrence,
Starting point is 01:15:25 and Aidan Hutchinson. I'm going to say Aiden because I think Aiden came back from the worst injury of all these guys. Like, remember in the off season, you saw his two legs, and one looked way skinnier than the other, and, like, and he was excellent. So I'm going to say Aidan.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Next. Next, we got offensive rookie of the year. Yeah, I'll just go through the, sorry, I'll just, because I didn't realize how late we were. My offensive rookie of the year would have been Tett McMillan, and my defensive rookie of the year would have been. probably Schwessinger. Schwesinger. I'm going to say it wrong. From the Browns.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And also, they're supposed to be protector of the year, the ovens of the linemen of the year, and I haven't seen those finalists, so I don't know where they are. All right, let's get to the listener questions quick. Math Magical says, seriously, there will be blood. The worst movie I've ever seen phenomenal acting,
Starting point is 01:16:37 gorgeous cinematography, all for the story that wasn't worth telling. Damn. Can I just say something Mathematical? You wrote a comment that said a movie had phenomenal acting
Starting point is 01:16:54 and gorgeous cinematography and was the worst movie you've ever seen. Those seem to be a little in conflict. I mean, aside from the acting and the images, that movie sucked.
Starting point is 01:17:08 What? I love them. I hate it. I mean, I think it's the, I think it is arguably with respect to the Godfather one and two. I think it's arguably the greatest movie ever made. All right, next. Pradovi asks, if the Chargers don't have a top five offense under the new OC, do they start thinking about moving on from Herbert?
Starting point is 01:17:31 No, Herbert's not the type of quarterback you move on from. But we are running out of people. No, so these are different. Herbert, you wouldn't get, I would certainly trade Herbert for the number one pick and Max Crosby. Like, you know what I mean? To be clear, that's a fair point. My point, so let me tweak what I was saying. Herbert is not the type of quarterback you move on from because it's like, ah, he's not quite good enough.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Like the, and Lamar, you wouldn't be moving on from Lamar. Like, I'm not the. Because he would be going and starting somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah, and he would, so, right, the, the, the, when you're like, okay, this guy, Tua is Kyler, or are the guys, it's like, they got paid, they don't have it, we got to turn the page. My point is, Herbert is in a class above that. Lamar is in a class wholly above that, where it's not so much about, like, nobody's ever like, we need to move on from Lamar Jackson. It's, oh, my God, look at the offer we just got for, Lamar.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Mark Jackson. So to be, I'm glad you made that clarificate to that point. But it doesn't really matter what the sorry of Chargers. It doesn't really matter if they have top five offense or not. The only thing people are going to, if the Chargers' offenses stinks all year long, and Herbert finally looks halfway decent, let alone good in a playoff game, people will feel great. And if the Chargers have a top five offense and Herbert looks the way he's looked in all those other playoff games again, then people will feel like he's just never going to get it.
Starting point is 01:19:18 And so the, you know, that's just where it is. All right, next. And JJ asks, how much, how come Lamar always ends up in trade rumors when DAC hurts Joe make more sense? He's the only one of those guys that's ever demanded a trade. Lamar Jackson demanded a trade three years ago. When they weren't giving them a contract extension? Correct. Yeah, that's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:42 I mean, that's why. Like those other guys, and DAC, by the way, there absolutely were DAC trade rumors around the time he was negotiating a contract. Like Hertz and Borough, they've been on smooth sailing. So that's why. Like, the Lamar contract stuff has been tricky in the past. I'm not making stuff up. Remind her everybody, like, rate, subscribe review,
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