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Episode Date: November 19, 2025All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. Nick Wright recaps Week 11 of the NFL season, starting with Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs being upset by Bo Nix's Denver Broncos ...and the threat of KC missing the playoffs. Then, Nick reacts to another underwhelming Philadelphia Eagles win over the Detroit Lions and breaks down Shedeur Sanders’ NFL debut in the Cleveland Browns' loss to Lamar Jackson's Baltimore Ravens. After, Nick discusses what version of Josh Allen the Buffalo Bills need to make it to the Super Bowl, and if it’s time to panic for Baker Mayfield's Tampa Bay Buccaneers after their second-straight loss. Later, Nick answers your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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a state of unease surrounding my hometown beloved Kansas City Chiefs after a game that I just never saw coming.
And we will get to that in full.
There are a couple quick little things that I would like to get to before we get to that.
And here's why.
I'm obviously, I'm not running from it.
I had to deal with it on TV yesterday.
I'm going to have to deal with it with Colin and more on TV today.
And we're going to spend a lot of time on it here.
The reason that we're going to get to these other small,
but I think really important stories just quickly off the top is actually because
God only knows how long the Chiefs Broncos part of the show is going to take.
And I want to make sure we have time to get to these other things.
But it will be given its full accounting of what happened on Sunday,
what that means for the chiefs for the rest of the year,
why they actually might be in a slightly tougher
playoff position as far as making the playoffs
than I think people currently understand.
And where I was appear to have been wrong about the Denver Broncos,
who I said would go into their buy at 6 and 5,
and they go into their buy on an 8-game winning streak at 9 and 2.
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The Cowboys annihilate the Raiders on Monday night football.
Yeah, my Raiders are going to be the second best team in the in the AFC West take is just a classic three instantly wrong.
They'll always have week one of beating the Patriots, which right now registers as the most bizarre outcome of the NBA, of the NFL season.
City of Lame and George Pickens benched for the opening drive of that game.
It didn't matter.
They were dominant after that.
Quentin Williams was great as the Cowboys get to four, five, and one.
Maybe a couple minutes on this game later.
And Wimby out weeks with a calf injury.
Huge bummer.
And excuse me, you understand them being cautious with him,
but it also means for the gamblers out there,
if anybody took some long shot defensive player of the years
that weren't, obviously, Wimby wouldn't have been a long shot,
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So I don't know who, you know, what,
bets people made but if you made a a kind of a bummer bet but i don't think wimby's going to
play enough games that was good foresight and i'm i you know the sports books might not have even
fully adjusted where he might still be a huge favorite but he shouldn't be um the so yeah wimby is now
four to one and chet is plus 130 i'm just i think there's probably value on
on everyone else in the marketplace.
Because Wimby at 4 to 1,
I think Wimby probably should be, like, you know,
close to off the board.
I just don't think he's going to hit the 65 games.
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So two quick things before we get to the Chiefs Broncos.
And the first one is, believe it or not,
for one of the first times in this show's history,
we are going to start with Shador Sanders,
but we're not actually starting with Shador.
And so that sounds silly,
but here's the point I'm making.
So Shador came in,
he obviously was terrible.
He was four of 16.
It's the worst completion percentage
by a guy who threw at least 10 passes
in four years in the NFL.
It was a game that the Browns could have and one would correctly argue would have and should have won with just typical bad quarterback play.
Instead, Gabriel was terrible and then Shador came in and was somehow worse and they lose.
And the Ravens escape with a win they did not really deserve, despite Miles Garrett, who might get 25 sacks this year,
just playing at an all-time level.
But the reason I'm starting with Shador
is because this morning Twitter was down for a bit.
And I think Twitter has,
I want to make sure I use the right word,
warped people's brains and ability
to discuss Shador Sanders
in a way.
it's such an
what you have
and what Twitter
has rewarded
from content creators
is the most
idiotic Shador
Sanders takes
being so
amplified and being
so
force fed
to anyone who has any
type of sports algorithm
that you have
folks who know better or at least should know better polluting the public discourse with just
nonsensical misinformation and so you've got and it's it's on and this is one of the rare things
where it is really a both sides problem you have folks who gain traction and get engagement
by finding anything imaginable to criticize Chador for up to and including where he's sitting on the bench
during and after a game because that gets engagement.
And then you have on the other end of it folks acting as if it takes a grand conspiracy
for a fifth round pick third string quarterback to,
to not have reps with the starting offense.
When it is totally reasonable that during training camp,
a guy who was not actually ever,
maybe you think he should have been competing for the starting job,
he wasn't.
The Browns, again, you can make the argument
that the Browns simply don't know what they're doing.
I don't know what the biggest Chador fans out there,
how they can make that argument.
I don't know how they square the fact that the entire league
said he's not worth a first, second, third, or fourth round pick.
And I understand there was some league-wide conspiracy talk.
It's all so stupid.
But set all that aside, in training camp,
the Browns looked at Joe Flacco as their starter,
and Dylan Gabriel of the two young guys as the higher priority because he was the higher
draft pick. That's how that works. And then once Dylan Gabriel became the starter,
they looked at their third round rookie as a guy who needed as much practice reps as possible,
so they were not splitting practice reps, which is totally and completely reasonable.
life is a fifth round pick in this league is hard it is supposed to be hard and it's not always fair
you get thrown into action and you have to look better than shador did and it feels like
deep down people who know better know that but deep down folks also know oh my god
this really gets people going
And it's just so dumb.
And so now what we will get is this week, Shador is going to get a real look.
He will be the starter against the Raiders.
He will get the full week of practice.
He will get a game plan to his strength, you know, catered to him,
and we'll see what he looks like.
and typically in sports,
if you're good enough,
none of the other stuff really matters.
And you don't have a lot of,
as a fifth round quarterback,
you're not going to have a ton of better opportunities than this one.
Knowing you are the starter all week long,
going against a bad team,
that is on a shorter week themselves and an opportunity to remake, at least temporarily,
that Brown's quarterback discussion, because Gabriel has been really bad.
And if Shador goes out there and balls, maybe he gets another week.
But the, my colleagues in the media that know,
it's not at all outrageous for should or to have no reps with the ones and implying or outright saying
differently because either they want to be in good with prime or it's what they think their
particular fans or followers will appreciate or just because they think it'll get the most
motion on the internet,
it's so bad.
And it really is a good example of,
this is a real example of social media
at times making the discourse dumber.
And so that's why I want to spend a few minutes on it off the top.
We don't have to spend more time on it.
We will see what he looks like against the Raiders.
I think Dylan Gabriel has been the worst starting quarterback in the league this year.
and the only reason that you wouldn't bench Gabriel for Shador
is if when he has a full week of reps in practice
and is ready to go against the Raiders,
he looks at all like he looked in that Ravens game.
Because in that Ravens game,
he looked like a guy who was wholly unequipped for the job.
And I didn't, listen, I didn't, I didn't love him
coming out of school, but I certainly liked him more coming out of school than Dylan Gabriel.
And in that game, he looked like a guy that was a ways away from being a ways away.
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The other quick story before I get to Chiefs Broncos is Braun should be coming back tonight.
Sneaky, double-digit point streak watch.
which he has, you know, the longest by multiple seasons in NFL history, or NFL NBA history.
And as my wife comes in mid-pod, you want to pop in?
You want to say hello to the people?
You know, you must think you look real cute and fancy today.
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you're welcome see you baby um so
brawn is supposed to come back tonight
the
the i don't even know what number
the double digit point streak is at guys
if you guys could put that in the dock don't check
don't trust a i
go to get an actual number
um and what second place is and what that number is
it's just noteworthy now am i mentioning i'm mentioning
that for
a couple reasons.
One is because I do think if he's on a minute's restriction,
you know, coming off an injury,
it could theoretically be in jeopardy.
And the other is fresh off an unbelievable week
where he's had back-to-back 40-point games.
Sadly, Steph's double-digit point streak reset back to zero.
So he's going to have to keep going for another 17 years
if he wants to catch Brown on that record.
That's either here nor there.
I am really excited to see what this Lakers team looks like with Braun.
They obviously need him to have any chance to compete with OKC.
Now it's possible nobody's going to compete with a healthy OKC,
but Luke is playing so well, Austin's playing so well.
Obviously, adding LeBron will make that team that much better,
and I'm curious how much he's going to help them defensively.
bronze number by the way is at 1,292,
which is just a little more than 400 clear of Michael Jordan's second place was at 866.
And so that's something to watch tonight as the Lakers more than survived the time without Brown at 10 and 4.
Now, the other thing I wanted to do, and I promise that I'm not doing some gag,
we are doing Chiefs Broncos in three minutes,
is, did you guys see the Draymond court side interaction?
So, Draymond approaches a fan in New Orleans, who was sitting courtside.
And the fan looked like he was taller than Draymond.
So this guy's got to be like 6.8.
It was really bizarre to see the guy staying up and Draymond come, you know,
almost nose to nose with him and the guy's bigger than him.
And Draymond was clearly very upset,
but it was interesting because they didn't kick the fan out.
And almost always, if a player gets that upset with a fan,
that fan gets removed, but they didn't kick the fan out.
So then Drayman was asked about it after the game,
and he said, the guy kept calling me a woman.
and it's like, wait, what?
And then Draymond clarified,
he kept calling him a specific woman.
And again, it's like, wait, what?
And then the fan explained, oh yeah,
he missed a few layups, got his own rebound,
so I started chanting Angel Reese.
Now, you can say that's mean or disrespectful to Angel,
or it's low brow.
But it is clever.
And it is interesting that he could yell,
just repeatedly say Angel Reese,
and everyone, Dremont, including,
can know exactly what he's saying,
exactly the dig he's trying to get at him.
and additionally, I think that is totally in bounds.
I think that that is the type of heckling
that should not get a fan disciplined at all.
And I'm glad the New Orleans staff did not try to kick that fan out
or do anything to him.
And Draymond's entire, you know, basically I've got a wife, I've got kids, you can't, buddy,
that was not over the line disrespect.
And if we really wanted to get on a deep level,
the fact that you kept saying calling me a woman was that you felt that disrespectful,
that's like kind of sneaky reveals a little more about you than maybe about the guy.
But that type of heckling is the exact type of heckling that you, that is in bounds.
And if I'm not a heckler, if you're going to heckle, it's the type of heckling that you should do.
It's no profanity.
There's nothing truly personal or offensive.
But it gets under the opposing team skit.
So that I thought was solid.
Like that, kind of witty by that guy.
Okay.
I wanted to get to those stories because I wanted to be on the record about them.
And I don't know how long we're going to talk Broncos chiefs.
And I didn't want to not have time.
And the people in the chat saying quit stalling and get to it.
Guys, I am, I do about more live media than,
at least sports media than anyone in the field.
I'm not, you know, I'm not, I certainly don't do more media than everyone who does sports media
if you include their asinine and ridiculous political talk shows.
But when it comes to actual sports talk, I do quite a bit.
I'm not going to be able to run from any story.
And I certainly can't run from this one.
The Chiefs went to Denver and,
arguably their biggest regular season game of Patrick's career
and got thoroughly outplayed
and blew a more than winnable game multiple times,
blew a fourth quarter lead,
and in that singular game,
Bo Nix played better than Patrick Mahomes.
That is what happened.
I could not have been more shocked watching a game than I was watching that one.
Because I, the Chiefs are healthy for the most part.
I know they don't have Pacheco.
The Chiefs right now are a healthier than average NFL team for this point this season.
They were off a buy.
They had full motivation, a lot of familiarity.
with that opponent
and Patrick was off
and the defense
could not get a stop when it mattered.
And so
on the offensive side of things,
first, second play of the game,
you have Xavier Worthy open for six.
Yeah, it's a tough throw
because it's 60 yards in the air,
but those are the throws
that partly made Patrick
Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes, he missed him.
That would have been a chance to just basically set the tone for the game immediately.
Missed that opportunity.
Obviously, you know, they had a sequence right before the Patrick interception.
And this might have been the single biggest swing of the game.
Patrick throws a little swing past to Kareem Hunt.
gets down to the two yard line they're going to have first and goal from the two joan taylor
illegal formation lined up too far back instead of first and goal from the two it becomes first
and 15 two plays later Patrick makes a terrible throw and instead of at least being without the
penalty it's probably going to be 13 to 6 with the penalty it's still
should be at least 9 to 6.
throws a pick. Denver drives down and scores.
Despite all that,
Kansas City fights back,
scores a couple touchdowns, takes a lead,
has the ball in the fourth quarter with a lead.
Go down, score a touchdown game over, three and out.
Then gets the ball back.
Tie game.
Four minutes.
Perfect.
not going to cover the three and a half but still drive down the field kick a field goal win the game
three and out and then on the defensive side of the ball first drive of the game first play sack
have them in second and 16 which turns into third and seven give it up later in that drive
have them in third and 11 outside a field goal range give it up and on the final drive of the game
after those two offensive three and outs,
you instantly have Bow Nix in third and 15.
And you can't get a pass rush
and you give up a 20-yard completion.
Three plays later, it's third and six.
Still not in field goal range.
And you give up a seven-yard completion.
Denver made the high leverage plays.
Kansas City did not.
and Denver now is a stranglehold on the division.
And I can think what I want and still think about Bo Nix
and his long-term viability as a franchise quarterback.
But the fact of the matter is, on Sunday,
he played, in my opinion, the best game of his career,
and the second biggest game of his career.
The only game that would have been bigger is the playoff game.
and he was excellent.
Excellent might be strong.
He was good.
Certainly more than good enough.
And Denver now has a buy
and then back-to-back soft games
at the commanders at the Raiders.
And then a very tough final month of the season,
but they should go into that month 11 and 2.
then Packers, Jags, at the Chiefs, home for the Chargers.
So tough month, but three of the four games are at home.
The one road game is Christmas night at the Chiefs.
And so Denver right now is the one seed.
I would not, my money would be on Denver finishing as the two.
Right now if I had to, if I had to, if I had to,
to handicap it I would say New England won Denver two indie three but Denver deserves
credit and Sean Payton talked shit at halftime to Tracy Wolfson and backed it up
said I like where we are there at first half team we're tight I thought it was
outrageous what he said he backed it all up what's so what's interesting is
internally, the chiefs still feel like this team can be and should be better than last year's
team, with the offensive line being so much better, and the wide receiving core being
healthy.
And maybe it can be, but they are butting up against that potentially not matter.
And here's what I mean.
they're five and five.
Obviously, if they go seven and oh, they're a lock for the playoffs.
And at seven and oh, they actually would have a chance to come all the way back and win the division.
But it would be, and even though they're favored in every game remaining,
given the fact that they're five and five, just sitting here saying they're going to
rip off seven straight would be overly optimistic even for me.
But 7 and 0 definitely gets them in.
6 and 1, which would put them at 11 and 6, almost assuredly gets them in.
But 5 and 2 probably does not.
And that is the thing that.
I think if we're going to have an honest conversation about where the chiefs are,
what has to be acknowledged is they probably only have one more loss to play with,
barring a true collapse by the Jags or the Chargers.
And that's the anxiety-inducing part.
Because I, listen, I, yes, of course, you'd rather win the division.
You'd rather be the one seed.
You'd rather all these things.
But as the Chiefs proved a couple years ago, they can go on the road in the playoffs
against a gauntlet, a far tougher AFC that year than what potentially exists this year,
and win playoff games in Buffalo, in Baltimore.
they can do that.
So being even the seven seed in the AFC this year wouldn't be devastated.
Like if I'm right about how the bracket falls, if you're the seventh seed, what you're staring at is a rematch of that game we just saw this past weekend in Denver, third time playing each other.
and then a trip to New England.
Again, you don't love any of those spots,
but historically the seven seed in the AFC,
what it would mean is they are going to Buffalo
and then either to Baltimore or two Kansas City
against those MVP quarterbacks.
This is a little different.
So as the seven seed,
I actually wouldn't hate the past.
If the bracket holds the way I you know it likely should the the concern is if the chiefs just after starting five and five just go five and two the rest of the way and it puts them at 10 and seven will that will because of tiebreakers they miss out because here is what is no
right now. The chiefs have lost head to head to Jacksonville. They also have four conference
losses already. They have lost head to head to the chargers. They will get the chargers again,
obviously. But the chiefs are one and two in the division. The chargers are three and oh in the
division. The chiefs have two AFC losses. I'm sorry, four AFC losses. The Chargers have two.
So it is going to be very difficult for the Chiefs to make it in over the Jags.
Well, impossible over the Jags if they have the same record. And very difficult for them to make it in over the
chargers if they have the same record. So then again,
you start counting wins.
And the Jags, this is what they have left.
At the Cardinals, at the Titans,
home cults, home jets,
at Broncos, at Colts, home Titans.
So if we just say, and again, the Jags are known to blow a game or two,
I understand that.
But if we just give them
the wins against the Titans
and the Jets,
that puts them at
nine. They would then just
need one win
against Cardinals, Broncos, and
two Colts games to get to 10.
And again, a 10-win
Jags team gets a spot
over a 10-win Chiefs team.
the Chargers are sitting at seven wins.
They play the Raiders.
They're on a buy.
Then they play the Raiders.
Then home for the Eagles.
Then at the Chiefs, at the Cowboys,
home for the Texans, at the Broncos.
And that Broncos game is a tricky one
because it's possible that in,
that game Denver is locked into its spot.
Now, again, it's too many moving parts to that.
But it's possible Denver goes into that game where they can't get, they can't be the one seed
and they're not going to fall below two or three and maybe they rest guys.
I don't know if they would, but that that charger game at Denver, it's at least
on the board they're playing the Denver backups.
So they're at seven wins.
If we give them
the win against the Raiders,
which puts them at eight,
Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans, Broncos,
if they can win two of those,
that puts them at 10.
And again,
it's not guaranteed,
but
a 10-win Chiefs team would not, in all likelihood,
have the tiebreaker over a 10-win Charger team.
They would if somehow like one of the Chargers' losses was to the Raiders instead of the Eagles.
But if the Chargers get to 10 wins by beating the Raiders, the Texans,
and
Week 18 against Denver
and loses to
the
Eagles Chiefs Cowboys,
the Chiefs don't have that tiebreaker.
And that means a 10-win
Charger team would get in over Kansas City.
So, here's, and I'm not even going to,
I know some people are trying to force Houston
into the,
playoff conversation.
Houston is at 5 and 5,
their next three are Bill's Colts Chiefs.
Obviously, if the Chiefs lose the Texans game,
they're probably screwed anyway.
And if the Texans lose the Chiefs game,
they're screwed.
So I'm not worried about the Texans.
It is, though, right now,
unless the Chargers or Jags really fall apart.
the Chiefs have to go 6 and 1 down the stretch.
That's where we're at.
That is the reality of the tiebreakers, the head-to-head,
the awful loss to Jacksonville that should have never happened
that is kind of looming over this season right now
and not being able to make plays in the winning moments this year.
Crazy stat from Scott Casmar.
the Chiefs, the two years, full seasons, prior to this one,
so the 23 and 24 seasons, they gave up two total, third and 10 or longers on defense
in the fourth quarter of one score games.
They've given up one of those in four of their five losses this year.
That's how, at this point last year,
year they were nine and one despite scoring fewer points per game allowing more points per game
and having a worse turnover margin than the team does this year they're not making the plays when
it matters and that's a huge skill of being a championship football team now if that's enough
doom and gloom what definitively is true is if they are able to rip off six
of the next seven.
They will go into the playoffs
incredibly dangerous
and with a higher ceiling
than last year's team.
But that means you've got to
obviously
beat the Titans and the Raiders on the road,
beat the Cowboys on the road.
Those are your three games against teams
with a losing record.
And then
Colts, Texans,
Chargers,
Broncos,
all at home,
you got to go
3 and 1.
With, I guess,
the game
you would like to lose of those
the most
would be the Broncos game.
And so that's the
spot they're in.
and we'll see how they respond.
It is, I am not going to engage at all.
And there seems to be a very concerted effort from folks in the media that are diehard Patriot fans to try to use this 10 games of Mahomes.
his eighth season as some Brady Mahomes
referendum or some Chiefs
Pat's dynasty referendum.
It's obviously idiotic
and it obviously
just
recreate history
as far as what
you know, the ebbs
and flows of the Patriots run
actually were.
I I am so I'm not going to
spend time on that in the first eight years of Tom
they missed the playoffs twice
just flat missed them twice that the
I think that is we will see how this year goes
and then we can do an accounting of
the dynasties whether we want to start
from oh one to 08 versus the first eight
for Patrick or if we want to compare it to their best eight years, which was 11 to 18 versus
these eight years. That 11 to 18 team is the only, you know, they made eight straight
conference championship games. The Chiefs record right now is at seven straight. At the end of this
season, we can do a dynasty for dynasty accounting, doing it right now and pretending like by
Tom's eighth year
he hadn't already missed the
playoffs twice, missed one entire
season due to injury
and only like
is just disingenuous
but
it informed me in a way
I didn't realize
that there was a lot
of
dynastic
insecurity
potentially imminent
from New England about what the Chiefs could potentially do to how people view the Pats run
versus the Chiefs run. I didn't view it that way. I think the Pats run is one of the greatest
things in the history of the sport and very unique as far as do you view it as three separate
eras, 01 to 04, the 10-year Super Bowl drought with the undefeated season in the middle of it,
which is insane of 05 to 13,
and then the unbelievable run from 14 to 18 on the back end.
Is that how you view it?
Do you view it as one long run?
Do you, like, there's, I think what the Patriots with Tom and Bill did
is going to be almost impossible to duplicate as far as the longevity of it.
That's separate from what Patrick's.
and the chiefs are doing, but we'll see how this year goes and we can do like a, you know,
greatest dynasties ever tale of the tape.
But there was just a lot of from folks that I, a lot of chirping.
Maybe it's because the Patriots are good this year out at New England that feels a touch
premature, just a touch.
And I'm going to talk to Colin about it today on TV.
we're three weeks removed from the Chiefs and Patrick both being overwhelming MVP and Super Bowl favorites.
And now listen, we are where we are.
I just laid out the scenario where they could miss the playoffs.
I'm not going to act as if that's not real.
But I'm also not going to act as if, let me fix this a little bit.
I'm also not going to act as if the sky has fallen.
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So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
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This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
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Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip.
Just a little bit bigger hips, wider.
This is a podcast.
We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey.
With all the snacks and drinks.
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Well, then you got it.
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That sounds delicious.
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All right.
The Eagles, as I've been saying all year, in a lot of different ways, remind me so
much of last year's chiefs.
The defending Super Bowl champs that keep winning games and people keep saying, yeah, but that
wind didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy the way I wanted to, but they keep winning.
and even also as an added bonus, some controversial officiating mixed in as well that people get upset about.
To be clear, it obviously was a bad DPI call that ended Eagles Lions,
but also to be clear, anyone that watched that game and thought if Jared Goff got the ball there,
the Lions were going to go score is being disingenuous.
That Eagles defense dominated the Lions up front.
front the whole game. So here are my biggest takeaways from Sunday night football. Start with
the Lions quickly. If that offensive line doesn't start playing better, they are going to be in
trouble against the best D-lines and Jared Goff can't sustain that. And the Lions who looks so
fast and so dynamic indoors their path now right now they you know lions chiefs hold on
lions chiefs ravens Texans all on the outside looking in of the playoffs right now
I don't know why the tech oh that's what I was thinking lion's chiefs or sorry chiefs Ravens Texans
along with the bills have been the final four in the AFC each of the last two years,
three of the four on the outside looking in.
But Lions Chiefs Ravens, three of the five Super Bowl favorites going into the year right now
all on the outside looking in on the playoffs.
But that's not the Lions path now potentially being on the road
with what is all of a sudden a good but not dominant offensive line.
is concerning for them. The Eagles defense got healthy, added Jalen Phillips, and now, after being
a major question mark to me early in the year, is the strength of their team. The criticisms about
the offense are fair. The offense has been bad. Saquan is not explosive. Jalen Hurd seems,
I don't want to say afraid, but overly cautious or hesitant to throw the ball unless it's
wide open or third and forever and he has no choice.
All of that is really concerning and then you add to it.
Lane Johnson being out for what is being called four to six weeks,
which I don't know if you can trust that,
is super concerned.
Them scoring 26 points in their last two games is problematic.
With that said,
they have the division locked up already.
They have plenty of time
to hopefully get Lane Johnson back before the playoffs.
And with how tough the Rams' remaining schedule is
and the bucks going on this little losing streak,
it sure feels like Philly
is pretty well positioned to be the one seed
have the playoffs go through the link
and the offensive struggles be damned
that defense in January playoff games
you've got to like their chances
so I'm not going to act like the offense
hasn't been problematic
but I am going to
acknowledge that I do think winning is a skill
I think Philly has such a deep,
talented roster
they can overcome a totally anemic offense.
And if they get the one seed and they're at home resting,
while the Rams is the two seed potentially,
have a wild card weekend playoff game of, you know,
Green Bay coming to town, that doesn't sound fun.
So Phillies position themselves really well.
winning these games even if they're winning ugly.
Jalen hasn't been very good.
The offense has not been good.
It has not mattered.
A quarterback who has been good is Josh Allen.
And listen, I am used to the Josh Allen media narrative, which is if he plays poorly or they lose,
we kill the roster.
And when he plays like he did Sunday, he's the MVP in the best.
best player in the league. I'm used to it. We've been doing it for five years. I'm fine with it.
What they did Sunday is what I've been encouraging them to do all year. And you might be like,
oh, you encourage them to score 40 points? No, what I'm saying is the dink and dunk ball control,
run the ball, Bill's offense does not work with a Bill's defense as bad as this one.
so instead you have to full-on unleash Josh Allen
you're going to get a few of those just idiotic
turnovers like the two-handed chess pass out of his own end zone
which was just absolutely bananas
you're going to get that and you just got to deal with it
just the cost of doing business
because it's
it unleashes him
and that version of Josh
is as scary as any player in the league
and so
that's where and I argued with Wilds
about this yesterday
he
he thinks the bills have no real shot
and I just disagree with him
they are far
you know far from a perfect team
but
when you let Josh just go
sorry for the cringe here
full yolo
they can beat anybody
and my bucks
that's a game you could have stolen
and I got to tell you
I
really thought
Todd Bowles
made a big mistake
so here's
what the bills had done in this game. Here's what their drives were. Interception, touchdown,
touchdown, interception, touchdown. A three and out where they went three and out because
Josh, while scrambling through 12 yards past the line of scrimmage, tried to lateral, but threw
it forward. So lost it down. They had to punt. They then muffed their own punt so they didn't
get a possession field goal touchdown touchdown and in that moment when Tampa has stopped the bills
once the entire game without forcing a turnover they have forced one punt the whole game
it is the fourth quarter there is seven and a half minutes left you're down five
you have a fourth and two
and Todd Bowles punted it away
and I hated it so much
because not surprisingly
the bills respond
eight plays 85 yards
just
immediate touchdown
and
it ended the game
and so
the bucks
listen I think I still
still think the Bucks are really good.
And six and four, given the injuries, there's no shame in that.
Losing the last two games, the way they did, though, test against the Patriots,
they don't, take the lead early, and then the Patriots kind of dominate them the rest of the way.
And then a Bills game where they had plenty of opportunities, and they, they couldn't,
get over the finish line.
Now they go to the Rams,
and this stretch, we set all year,
they can go one and two in this stretch.
O and three would be rough.
So a huge game against the Rams for my bucks.
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All right, let me get to a few like the other games in some quick hitter fashion.
So, Rams Seahawks was a unique one because I actually came away even more impressed with the Seahawks defense.
I know the Rams are the defense that forced the four turnovers, but the fact that Darnold could not stop turning the ball over and the Seahawks defense kept the Seahawks in this game, I thought was remarkable.
right now the Rams do look like the most complete team in the NFL and it definitely
excuse me would not surprise me if the Rams make the Super Bowl um you guys know how much
I've liked this scene the last couple years and how much I like Stafford and Stafford's
still the clear MVP favorite but the Seahawks are for real which is why it's a
shame that we are now getting a growing volume of evidence that Darnold in big spots just plays
his worst ball, man. And that's a shame because he's played so well for the last two years.
But his bad games in big spots are not like, ah, he wasn't that good. They're meltdowns.
and that is a if you're a Seahawks fan
that's going to have you're going to have a little pit in your stomach
the rest of the year worrying about that
the other games from week 11
the Patriots blows out the Jets on
I don't even know if I call it blow
the Patriots beat the Jets on Thursday Night Football
the Jets are now benching Justin Fields
that game was gross
the Dolphins beat the command
1613 in an even grosser football game where Mike McDaniel I but some of the game management
stuff at the end of that game like not kicking a field goal in the final minutes of a tie game
against Marcus Marriota I just don't understand and I'm typically aggressive by nature
but you you're not a power running team you're playing Marriota
They ended up winning anyway, but my God, Miami.
Packers beat the Giants 2720 in a game that it feels like.
If Jackson Dart were playing, the Giants maybe could have stolen.
I don't think you watch that game and feel great about the Packers.
Bears beat the Vikings 1917 to go to first place in the division.
Another final second comeback that they should not have needed.
You're up 16 to 3 on J.J. McCarthy in the fourth quarter,
and you almost blow it.
Listen, credit to the Bear.
for getting to seven wins.
That was an ugly one.
A lot of ugly, close but ugly football this weekend.
Texans beat the Titans 16-13,
and Cam Ward had one great drive.
The Titans are just a total mess.
Texans defense, unbelievable.
Offense seems like with Stroud or Davis-Mills,
it's just capped it around 16-17 points.
Bryce Young plays the game of his life in the pros,
400 and some yards as the Panthers stay right in the thick of the playoff race,
get to 6 and 5 beating the Falcons in overtime, brutal loss for the Falcons
and bigger loss, pinnics out for the year.
And remember, the Falcons don't have their first round pick because they traded it to the Rams.
That might end up being the 6th, 7th pick of the draft.
Steelers beat the Bengals thanks to a bunch of defensive scores.
has a small fracture in his left wrist,
but he wants to play.
We'll monitor that.
I don't think there's a huge difference right now
between Rogers and Rudolph, but the Steelers, you know,
keep the Ravens at bay for now.
And the Niners beat the Cardinals in one
of the most bizarre football games ever played
where Jacoby Brissette now has the all-time NFL record
for completions in a game with four.
But Purdy comes back in, looks great, and the Niners get to seven wins,
and they stay right in the thick of the playoff hunt.
Jason asks, Nick, at the end of the season,
where do I think Jackson, Smith, and Jigbo be viewed in terms of top receivers in the league?
Top three.
Somewhere in the top three, along with Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase.
Rough weeks for those guys, by the way.
Justin Jefferson having a down year, and Jamar Chase spitting on it,
Jalen Ramsey.
T.
asked, do you think it's a coincidence that Braun is choosing to come back with almost exactly 65 games remaining?
No.
Well, yes, I do think it's a coincidence and no, listen, I don't think he's going to be eligible.
So what T is implying is that, you know, LeBron is giving himself the chance to make the 65 game threshold.
I would be shocked
because he's missed 14.
The most you can miss is 17.
I would be shocked
if
LeBron only sits
three games the rest of the year.
First of all, he has to, in year 23,
stay fully healthy
the rest of the year, and then they
also have to not rest him ever,
really, except for three games.
So no, I think that the all-MBA streak,
which is at,
what is it at,
22 straight, 21 straight seasons?
This is year 23.
He's made the all-MBA team ever.
Yeah, so 21 straight years of being an all-N-B-A player,
that is not dead, but certainly on life support for Braun,
with only three games play with.
And I just don't think he's, I think he's going to,
I think he's probably going to play closer to 55 than 65 games this year.
And for those of you wondering,
21 all-N-B-A teams.
What's second most?
Duncan, Kareem, and Kobe,
tied for the second most with 15-age.
Jay says,
is it on the board that Browns Kevin Sofansky
do not know how to develop quarterbacks
and is he still getting too much grace
out of that coach of the year
and the greatness of Miles Garrett?
I don't understand at all.
I don't understand at all.
The Kevin Sifansky, Andrew Barry,
of. That team has been
Miles Garrett's unbelievable. DeVint is really good. They can't win games and they've been there for a long
time. And they have absolutely year after year botched the quarterback situation. So no, I, I,
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