The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - Chiefs dynasty OVER? Kelce & Mahomes WASHED? Jerry Jones calls Cowboys SOAP OPERA

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Nick Wright responds to the skeptics saying the Kansas City Chiefs dynasty with Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and company is already a thing of the past. Then, Nick reacts to Jerry Jones saying he wants the Dallas Cowboys to be a soap opera and weighs in on the expectations for Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears starters this weekend. Later, Nick discusses the New York Giants and Cleveland Browns QB battles and predicts when Jaxson Dart and Shedeur Sanders will become the starters. Nick then reacts to Rashee Rice's disciplinary hearing being set by the NFL and breaks down why it's beneficial for the Chiefs. Finally, Damonza has a big announcement, and Nick answers your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And this episode, as always, brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. So here's the deal. I'm just going to be totally transparent with the audience. I am so ready for actual football season. saying the last few weeks it's football season because we have turned our attention to football. The problem is there's no news. Like the news we get is this, we hear, oh my God, and I think it's in the show somewhere, but I'll discuss it for a moment anyway.

James Cook, 30 million guaranteed with the agents credited in the first paragraph of ESPN.com story. And then, of course, a day later, it's like, well, actually, it's really 15. million guaranteed and he already had five million guaranteed so it's really just 10 million extra guaranteed but way to get those agents that pub like that's not real i guess he's back in camp that's the news um the a major story in sports media today is joe burrow got knocked down like that's where we're at in the camp calendar which is why we take vacation next week And then we come back full-fledged, first things, first prediction week on this show,

back-to-back, preseason gambling extravaganzas. So all of that is coming in short order. But today does feel a little bit like the, you know, 17th lap in the 15,000 meters. Like, man, we're trudging through. So I understand I maybe shouldn't say that to the audience. Maybe you're turning off the podcast. Please don't do that. Like, great subscribe review, do all those things.

I'm just being honest with you guys. Which is why I was so thrilled that yesterday we got actual news in the what's right universe, which is Demonsay. Would you like to share with the audience? What happened yesterday? Yeah, those snakes finally popped out. Yesterday was the day. 55 or 56 got home, saw some little heads. Did the routine check, saw some heads popping out of those eggs.

I mean, look at this picture. Yeah, they looked like a little blanket. But, yeah. It's really unbelievable. So let me, can I, all right, sorry, I'm going to put you on Front Street a bit here. Did you cry? I did. I think something's wrong with me.

what you think something because you told me you thought you would a hundred years ago. Yeah. When DeMonte started this journey of teaching himself how to breed exotic snakes, he said, he was like, I'm going to be honest with you. He's like, if it ever happens, and they actually, there's actually one that they mate and they get pregnant and there's eggs and they're born.

He's like, I think I'll cry. And so I was, it was, I was. So it's very excited. Super excited. No tears came out. But, but yeah, I mean,

I think I always just start screaming. I think it's like my default. Oh, so you, you yelled? Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. 100%. All right. Love it. Love it. And I also love that we have locked in

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Yeah. Yeah. So that's great. So that's honestly the most exciting thing. I'll be totally transparent. My most exciting part of this podcast just happened, but we'll try to entertain all the same. Straight to voicemail brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Like I said, tempers flare at Bengals Camp because Joe Burrow got knocked down.

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He called his cowboys a year-round soap opera and said, if we're not being looked at, then I'll do my part to get us looked at. He also called controversy a good thing. What's going on over there in Dallas? Well, so, and he yesterday said he may or, may not talk with Micah with Micah's agent pardon me and then he's like that he's under contract so we're gonna we're gonna try to hit 10 topics say i'm gonna try to do them fast um i just want to hone in on this one point here there is no justification or explanation for my for Jerry not

talking to Micah's agent none we can argue about a lot of this we can argue about whether or not It's smart for the Cowboys to pay Micah. I don't think that's a huge argument, but if someone was like, you know what, they already have the most expensive quarterback, one of the most expensive receivers. They're probably not that close. Their better path is make them play out this year,

franchise tag in order to trade. Like if somebody wanted to make that argument, I would listen to it, okay? I would disagree that I would listen to it. If there are a lot of things that you there are legitimate opinions on both sides on with this thing there is not a legitimate opinion that involves agreeing with jerry jones decision to never talk to micah's agent and if the justification on jerry's end were well there's nothing to talk about because we are not signing

Micah to an extension, the problem with that argument is Jerry's claim is we already agreed to an extension months ago. Jerry is not claiming I don't want to sign Micah. Jerry's claiming I did want to sign Micah. I had an agreement with Micah. Micah now essentially reneged on it. Even if that is the case, then there is no justification for not calling Micah's agent and saying, hey, here's the the offer and that I think through missed through all of the Jerry Jones nonsense has been the very simple fact that he has not had a conversation with David Mulegetta Micah's agent and that to me is the only possible rationale for that is he wants to exert and show who's in charge and who has the power here. They're trying to hold over them. And here would be my biggest, and then we can move on to other topics.

But my biggest concern if I were a Cowboys fan, that Jerry quote about basically we want to be in the news 365 days a year, you know, we're a soap opera. It's my job to drum up interest. Say what you want about Jerry. he is a brilliant marketer. That part is undeniable. And if Jerry is looking down the horizon,

it might occur to him that if they sign Micah, there's no other like football adjacent intrigue controversy left to satiate the masses next offseys. DAC is done and has a no trade. CD is done. If they have, if they sign Micah and they go eight and nine, what is the Cowboys news that keeps them in the lead block of shows during the dog days of summer? There's not another train coming down those tracks.

and so if Jerry is being earnest that his real goal is to keep the Cowboys front page, the easiest strategy there is, dare Micah to play out this season, franchise tag him next offseason, and run this entire storyline back. I don't think that is the likely outcome, but I always. also think at this point it would be dumb to dismiss it as a possibility because the fact that we have gotten here is a testament to the fact that Jerry is not leading with smart football team management he is leading with generating buzz and you sign Micah it's hard to generate if you sign mica and you're just average next year where where does the next buzz come from

dac's done micah's done cd's done micha will be de facto untradable the first year after signing a contract because of what the signing bonus will be DAC is literally untradable they there's not a lot of paths and you just hired a brand new head coach like not going to fire a car coach after year one, like what is the sizzle that the Cowboys can create other than just being awesome football, an awesome football team? And I don't think that's likely. UFC 319 is blowing back to the windy city. I bet Colin's going to be there for the first time in six years. I'm just saying that. I would be shocked, actually. I think we're going to, not only is Colin going to be there, I think we're going to see Colin with six seats on pay per view. Check out

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I en du placee. I wasn't trying to do Italian. I don't do accents, but I would, I'm guessing, even though he's South African, that that is a French name. Duplessi strikes me as, no, listen, the, uh, I was not going to say anything about it. Yeah, I mean, I, listen, that's a production error. And that's also a Ron Burgundy style error by you. Just because it's written in the dock doesn't mean you got to read it. Like you got to every once in a while, I've got to have some discretion.

Yeah, you're allowed some discretion here. All right, go ahead. Eddie Reed downplayed all the naysayers saying that the Kansas City's window is closing for the dynasty. Colin was also one of those naysayers saying that the winning is over. Do you think that the dynasty is continual? If they win the Super Bowl this year. Well, hold on. I don't even think that's obviously if they win the Super Bowl this year,

the dynasty is in progress. I want to focus more on, listen, I think it's well established how much I adore and love Colin Cowherd. His Chiefs takes. Now, I mostly blame JMAQ. I think that like the proximity to JMAX historically bad Chiefs takes have somehow, there's been an osmosis of take that has impacted Colin. But they've been to three straight Super Bowls.

They had the best record in the NFL last year. They got to at least not go to the last one, right? They made it to the last Super Bowl. Like, I think they have to at least not make a Super Bowl for the dynasty to be over. Well, I would think so. Right. Yeah. And by the way, like, when we talk about dynasties in the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steelers is probably the most famous one.

They won two Super Bowls. They then went two years without making the Super Bowl. forget without winning it without making the super bowl and then they won two more we look at that as one dynasty the the patriots is an interesting one i don't consider the pants one continuous dynasty but if you do it went like this one a super bowl missed the playoffs then won two super bowls then gosh, I'm going to have to do this off the top of my head. 06 going for the 3-Pete, lost their first playoff game. I'm sorry, wait.

0-5 going for the 3-Pet. It's going to be hard to do off top my head, but I'm going to try. Lost their first playoff game. 06, lost in round 2. 07 lost the Super Bowl. 08 missed the playoffs. 0-9 and 2010. lost before the Super Bowl,

2011, lost in the Super Bowl, 2012, 2012, 2013, lost before the Super Bowl, 14 won the Super Bowl, 15 lost in conference title game, 16 won the Super Bowl, 17 lost the Super Bowl, 18 won the Super Bowl,

19 lost in round one. So if we want to do that as one long dynasty, then it's going to be impossible to say the Chiefs, dynasty is over. If you consider the Patriots one long dynasty, the Patriots went a decade without winning a Super Bowl. The chiefs have gone 16 months. And so that part's just ridiculous. It's just fundamentally ridiculous to say, I'm declaring it dead when the chiefs are in the midst of or just I guess you would say the greatest three-year stretch in the history of the league and

they have been to three consecutive Super Bowls and seven straight AFC championship games. It's now if you if your take is they're just not good enough anymore. It's a bold take maybe like I there's no evidence for it. But if it's just your gut feeling, um, then so be it here is here is what i find the most damonze ridiculous about this chief's fatalism stuff and then we can move on every team in the afc that is chasing them if this year they have the exact season Kansas City had last year. Best record in, last undefeated team, best record in the NFL, beat the chiefs in the

AFC playoffs, make the Super Bowl, lose the Super Bowl. It will be considered evidence that that team is getting closer and the best season any of those teams have had in this era. The Chiefs having that year is considered evidence of implosion. But I am here to tell you, if the Baltimore Ravens are the final or the Buffalo Bills or the Cincinnati Bengals or the Los Angeles Chargers or God forbid the Denver Broncos or any of those teams, if they are the last undefeated team, if they are 15 and 1, if they are 15 and 1, with the one seed locked up.

They then beat the chiefs in the playoffs and then run into, I don't care who, call it Philly. Or no, because Philly then would go back to back. That complicates things. Call it the Lions and get blown out in the Super Bowl. If that were to happen, and then I were to go on TV and be like, this year was the end of that team. they're done now they it's time for a new chapter people would say that dude you're just a

hater and this is also an element of my a lot of my my holmes frustration in and i'm going to talk about this on the tv show today in how he's discussed do you agree to Monzee that all Lamar Josh and Burrow the year they had last year elevated them

even if not in their actual ranking but people elevated them their standard and and that people felt their seasons combined with the year Mahomes had narrowed the

gap for best quarterback and some people flipped it. You agree with that, right? Yeah. That's like conventional wisdom. Okay. And this is where the point that I make that Mahomes is not judged against his peers, I think is crystallized. Let's pretend Patrick this year had any of their seasons last year. Okay. Let's start with Joe. Patrick puts up insane numbers and the chiefs miss the playoffs. Does that help or does anyone be like, okay, that helped? Patrick's back. No.

Dynasty is definitely over. Okay. So, all right. Let's do Lamar's year. Patrick puts up insane numbers. The chiefs are the, you know, a good but not great seed. They're the three seed. and for the first time in his career,

he does not make a conference championship game because he loses in round two to one of the other rival quarterbacks. Does that help or hurt Patrick standing? It would hurt him. It would hurt him. All right. Stu Josh. Patrick wins league MVP.

Team has a really good record. They get the two seed. And then to go back to the Super Bowl doesn't come through at the end. And Josh beats him. Is anybody then being like, okay, Patrick has reclaimed it or they're like, oh, MVP, be damn. Josh beat him. Now, do the flip side for any of those guys, all three of them, DeMonse, give them Patrick's year last year. they have mediocre stats,

but lead the league in game winning drives and comebacks. And he beats two of those guys in route. I'm sorry, any of the, those guys are the one seed and beat Patrick to get to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Imagine if I then went on TV and was like, yeah, but his touch there you know Lamar's touchdown interception ratio wasn't that impressive I'm actually dinging him it's just insane and so I know I'm the Kansas City guy I know I have the

tattoo that I still don't know how to show on camera I still don't know what I'm supposed to do here it's just a disaster there we go I see I don't even know what I'm there we go um everybody just hates greatness man um well it's just here's the thing it's just boring it's just boring and i i also like just one other thing because what has become very in vogue and bruce says it a lot and he and i talked about this not like to like to talk about it but discussed it on the air um the other uh the other day which is because it's become very in vogue to say something on lines of like oh mahomes is doing brady's career in reverse where brady in the beginning won but didn't have the stats and mahomes and then later in his career

had the crazy numbers my homes are but it's just inaccurate and here's what i mean my homes early and every year of his career except the last two first five years, won and had MVP caliber stats. And the last two years, he's won, but he hasn't had the crazy numbers until the playoffs, right? But this idea that Tom Brady post 2007 was just year in, year out,

this statistical monster, it's just not true. So Tom Brady, 2007 at that point, the greatest quarterback season ever. He then misses 2008 due to injury. 2009, Tom Brady's team was 10 and 6, and he had 28 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, and they lost their first playoff game. Then 2010, he had one of the greatest statistical seasons ever,

36 touchdowns, four picks, and 2011, he was in line. with it. 39 touchdowns, 12 picks. And then 2012, it's down to a 98 passer rating. And 2013, 25 touchdowns, 11 picks, and an 87 rating. That's in 2013. And then, obviously, 2014, they win the Super Bowl. 2015, he has an all-time, 2015, 16, 17, all-time stats years, where he has a combined doing the math on the fly, 96 touchdowns, 15 picks, a 108 rating over the course of three years. But then the very next year, 2018, they go 11 and 5. He has 29 touchdowns 11 picks, but they win the Super Bowl.

2019, 24 touchdowns, 8 picks, an 88 rating and leaves the Patriots, and then goes on the sick run in Tampa. The point I'm making is this. even peak Brady had these season like the season where it's like oh 29 touchdowns 11 picks 24 touchdowns eight picks 25 touchdowns 11 picks it was not every single year statistical excellence it was every single year when the division make the playoffs and it is at the tail end of his Patriots tenure every single year make a conference championship game but it's just it's we've got to be honest about what real expectations are,

and we've got to be honest about what the guys who are allegedly in Patrick's league, if Patrick had the season they just had and they just had the season Patrick just had, how would we view it? That's all I'm saying. All right, let's talk to bills. Buffalo just extended James Cook. They gave him that top of the market running back money. Yeah, kind of.

Kind of the top of the market. Again, it depends on the reporting, but yeah, he certainly got a deal that appears at least a little better than I would have done. Go ahead. So with limited cap room going forward, if Buffalo cannot get it done this year, do you think that their window is closed for the Super Bowl? No, listen, I think if I had to bet, here's a fun exercise. Super Bowl. I don't want to do this right now. I was going to say like divvy up Super Bowls over the next five years.

Between teams? Yeah, like, I would say the chiefs get two. Josh gets one. Ravens got to be in there at some point. Does Baltimore break through? Does Baltimore get one? And then is there, you know, didn't see that one coming? Am I underrating Philly?

You know what I mean? But I don't want to actually do that exercise. Like, I'd have to think more about it. If Philly were to repeat this year, how about that? If Philly were to repeat this year, I would have to be. repeat that's all then we get into a whole different ballgame everybody's got a dynasty well back to back by itself's not a dynasty but when you add to it they did make the super what they did make the super super bowl two years prior right you know what i mean i think you've got to have three in the NFL

typically you've got to have at least three championships so like the people don't consider to the dolphins of the 70s of full-blown dynasty dolphins lost a super bowl then won a super bowl won a Super Bowl. That's, you know, so the, how did I rank the dynasties? I think I did this once. Let me see if I can find it, find it. Dynasty tiers. Do I have that somewhere?

Some Google Docs in somewhere. Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. I'm trying to look for it. Hold on Dynasty. No, I don't have it. I did do it at some point. The Daniel thinks he can find it. That would be great.

But the, the dynasties that are undeniable are either one or two for the Patriots. Either way, they have three championships. You know, if you want to go 01 to 18 with six titles with a gap in the middle, or 01 to 04 and then 14 to 18, either way, that's a dynasty. The Niners in the 80s from 80 to 88, or in the 80s, I should say, they won four Super Bowls. The Cowboys in the 90s winning three and four years.

Obviously, the Steelers in the 70s. Those are the only official real, in my opinion, dynasties. The other ones that are close, the Broncos who went back to back in 97, 98, the Packers went back to back to start the NFL. Now, the Packers would be higher up if we're doing pre- Super Bowl Europe because they won championships there. The Dolphins, as I mentioned, who lost the Super Bowl,

then won back-to-back Super Bowls. Like, those are the ones that are closer. So the Eagles, if they were to win this year, would be in that tier with the Dolphins of the 70s, the Broncos of the 90s, the Cowboys of the 70s,

those teams, the Raiders from, mid-70s to early 80s, but they wouldn't, in my opinion, be a full ball. But they would then have DeMonse a wide-open window to get that third one and to be considered. You know what I mean? If they win this year and then three years later, they win another one, then that

definitively would make them a dynasty. But to get to the question about Josh Allen and the bills, here's, Here's where I stand and tell me if you think it's unfair. I think Sean McDarmint's a good coach. I think if they lose in the playoffs this year pre-super Bowl again, they probably have to fire them. I just don't, especially if they lose to Kansas City. Yeah.

I just don't think you can, I think you would need something to make the team believe going into the next year. that this year will be different. And if for the fifth time in six years, you lose to the same team. And honestly, I mean, but what if it's just that guy on the other side,

man? Like, what if it's really, that's why I said, tell me if you think it's fair. Like maybe, maybe you just keep running it back. I don't know,

but I, the stat that should worry, this is a thing that Scott Casmar, tweets about a lot and I do think is interesting. The stat that should worry Bill's and Ravens fans is there has never been a coach quarterback combo that won a Super Bowl that didn't win their first Super Bowl in their first five years together. Do you follow what I'm saying?

So there has never been a coach quarterback combo that actually won the Super Bowl together that didn't win their first Super Bowl within their first five years of being together. So like for Reid and Mahomes, this is their ninth year together. But they won their first Super Bowl in their technically their third year together, but really their second year together, second year starting. For Lamar and for Josh with Harbaugh and McDermott, this is year eight together. That part is, and for Burrow and Zach Taylor, by the way, I think it's year six. So now, maybe that's, you know, a nonsense stat. But the fact that it's never happened in 75 years of the NFL is noteworthy to me. So I think the bills, I would, I am in a position, DeMonsay, where if you were to tell me,

I've seen the future and the Kansas City Chiefs are not in the Super Bowl, who's in it and who wins it, my answer would be Buffalo. They would be my number one pick. I think they're good enough. I think Josh is good enough, even if I wouldn't have necessarily given James Cook multi-year guarantees. He's obviously a good player and helps him this year. I like their secondary worries me a bit, but I like the team a lot.

But I just don't go ahead. I've got a follow-up in here. Like, where do you think that this bill's team ranks amongst other bills teams going into the season? I think there's very similar. I think, listen, I think they're very similar. And I think that those teams have been, I think, like, I think, like, Last year's team was good enough.

I thought a few years ago those teams were a little overrated. But I think last year's team was good enough. This team should be as good as last year's team. And as long as Josh continues his trend of not being, you know, last year he was great on not turning the ball over. They're going to be right there. Roller coaster Josh Allen. No, because it hasn't been the case.

I've had it a long time. No, that's right. Listen, I'm just fair. and I called him a roller coaster when he was. I didn't last year because he wasn't. Ever signed up for a phone plan thinking, wow, what a price. And then a few months later, it's like surprise,

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast

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iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. All right, Damante, let's go to the Giants. So Daible named Russ the starter earlier this summer, but Jackson Dart came out in that preseason game was using his legs, throwing some darts. With Giants' front office and the head coach on the hot seat, how soon do you think that they'll want to throw dart in if things start going wrong? Listen, Daible's sure also seemed.

to really, you know, he was more complimentary of Jackson Dart than you've heard him be of a quarterback in a long time. Here's what I think. I don't think they are going to want, I think that they're going to try to ride with Russ for the first half of the season. I don't know if you've looked at what the Giants opening half of the season. the season schedule is. But not a lot of soft spots.

They go at Washington, at Dallas, home for the Chiefs, home for the Chargers, a brief respite with home for New Orleans, then Philly, Denver, Philly, San Francisco. And so,

and though, you know, playing Philly twice in three weeks with a rookie quarterback seems like a nightmare. But then after that, as far as defenses you'll be facing, after that Philly, Denver, Philly stretch, San Francisco, Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit, New England, your by week, Washington, Minnesota, Vegas, Dallas. I would imagine they are going to want to give Ross a time to see, you know, if he can just be fine. And the team. can be alive.

The ideal spot, if they're not good, to go to DART, they play Philly on a Thursday, and they then have 10 days until the next game, that would be a good spot. The problem is that team they play after those 10 days is Denver, which should have one of the better defenses in the entire NFL. And so I think eventually, let me put it like this. I will be shocked

if post-by-week Jackson Darts not the starter but and I think there's a very good chance and the by week for the day of the last by week they're by week's week 14 I think there's a very good chance they go to him earlier than that I do not think it is realistic that he is the week one starter

I don't think that is in line or even on Dable's mind for that to happen. But do I think that Brian Dable might be, you know, if week nine they're struggling, the way to kind of potentially keep the job, go to the rookie of the rookie show promise and be like, hey, that's what we've got coming next year?

I think that's on the board. All right, let's keep going. Should Dura suffer an oblique injury of practice and his status is currently up in the air? So Gabriel's in line and start in the next preseason game if he's healthy. So with Chador being fourth on the depth chart right now, how big of a ding is it for him if he misses a game? All right.

You're going to really, really, you're going to make that face you make when you think I'm being unfair to people. Okay. I think one of the best things that can happen for Chador's chances of moving up the depth chart is the whole world. Not playing in the next game? it's about everyone seeing Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett actually play. I think that having Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett play against Philly

could be the best thing possible for Shador Sanders to move up that depth chart. Neither one of those guys have gotten a full training camp because of the injuries they've suffered. Gabriel, whatever Philly starters that they're playing, and that is a deep team in preseason game two is a little less vanilla. I think Gabriel, who yesterday, according to the ESP and Cleveland training camp stats, was six of 19 in 11 on 11 and 7 on 7. I just think that assuming Shador's injury is very minor and he's able to practice by Monday. I think that him sitting and picket and Gabriel with the Browns offensive players against the Eagles defensive players, the Browns backups against the Eagles backups, and those guys, in my opinion, picket never and Gabriel not at this point being NFL starting caliber quarterbacks.

I don't think this is the worst thing to happen to Shador. Now, if it's a long lingering injury, I think that's disastrous. but I don't. It does not seem like that is likely the case. All right, let's go to Caleb. So after watching that preseason game, week one from the sideline, Caleb and the starters will be in this next game, according to Ben Johnson.

So what do you need to see from Caleb in this game? And what do you not want to see for them? Well, I just don't want to see them running around. I just want to see if, listen, I think people have gotten too far down on Caleb. I think people are pre-panicking about Ben Johnson overloading him with information. I, again, I think Ben Johnson, you know, knows what he's doing. And he at least is executing the plan that he had.

Ben Johnson was very judicious about which head coaching job he was going to take. He waited for this one. He took this one. He could have coached Herbert. He could have coached Washington. He had other jobs he could have taken. and he wanted this one so he clearly thinks Caleb's style can work with him. But he is also trying to make Caleb have to process a ton early before they pair it back later.

So I would just like to see Caleb look sharp. And I still, I believe in Caleb. I think there has been far, far too big of an overcorrection on how good is Caleb Williams actually. and I will say this, DeMonze, if Jaden has earned the benefit of the doubt of until proven otherwise, he's the best player from that draft class at the quarterback position, which he's earned that. Like, you can't, Caleb, Bo, Bo actually had a good rookie year. Caleb and Drake May both struggled. Pennix barely played.

JJ didn't play. And J.J.N. had arguably the greatest rookie season ever. So if we take Jaden outside of it, if you were to ask me, who, what quarterback from that draft class, other than Jaden, who do you think is going to have the best year? Caleb, Bo, Drake, Pinnix, or McCarthy, I would pick Caleb Williams, and it wouldn't be that hard for me.

You guys know I'm not a believer the way other people are in Bo Nix. We've seen almost nothing from Pinnock's. JJ, we have seen nothing from. and Drake May, I just don't I don't think they have the offensive personnel for him to thrive this year. So I will I believe that Caleb is going to have a better year

than people expect. And I think that he is, that Ben Johnson's approach of overload him now, then make it simpler later when the games actually matter. I think that's pretty smart. All right, let's go to,

go ahead, pal. you expect it out of the game. I mean, I know it's a preseason game, but I mean, the all I so they play the bills on Saturday on Fox. I think that the Lions passing offense should look good. I think the bill's secondary, as I said earlier, is already their weakness and their, you know, so that's their starting secondary. They're going to be playing backups at some point. And then five days later, they play the Chiefs in a game that I think is, while it was my Super Bowl pick last year, I think it's very possible that Caleb does not play in that game. I think Caleb could get a lot of work this Saturday night and then doesn't play in the final preseason game. So listen, I expect them to look good. We'll see, but I expect them, I expect them to look good. All right, let's go to.

to the Blazers sale. Yeah, so the Allen family is selling the Trailblazers and setting their valuation at over $4 billion. Yeah. So here's, so here's why this is news. The news is Celtics sold for six. The Blazers just sold for four. The Lakers obviously sold for 10.

Do we now know what an NBA, the generic index, NBA team costs. And my answer is, I think we do. I think that the generic NBA team now costs $5 billion. Because I think the Blazers, because of market size, are a below average value NBA team. And it is in line with Adam Silver wanting the expansion fee to be $6 billion. And but here's the thing.

And I will give after, you know, even though I disagreed with this quarterback pyramid, I will give Bill Simmons credit on this. Simmons is usually way ahead of the curve on like NBA ownership and league office going on. And he keeps more than alluding to that they are pumping the brakes on expansion. Now, what does that mean for LeBron's ability to own a team? And what does that mean for, you know, the potential competing, not quite competing, but, you know, other league? I'm not certain. But $4 billion for the Blazers is a great number for the other 29 NBA owners. As summer winds down, it's nice to get back into a routine.

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and i think his aggressiveness um on fourth downs is that's a dan campbell not a ben johnson thing and i think that instills a real edge for them but here is my overarching take so to speak that i think um that i said on the show yesterday that i hadn't i thought of why we were within the segment. And I was like, you know what? It just was kind of a eureka moment. I was like, I think that's right. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.

And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember

I think it was on a call about what we should call it And we were thinking I'm originally calling it One of the early names of our band Before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes I have a very different memory of this We were talking about a thing

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Because once your team is competing for championships, once you do have really good players, there's a lot of self-starting and self-motivation and the culture is set. once you get to that point, then I do think the coordinators who are more your tacticians, those guys have an increased value when you're actually trying to win a championship. So I have four significant concerns about the Lions this year. One is what you're talking about right there,

the loss of coordinators. The second one is how does golf respond to, that playoff meltdown. I think that's a fair question. Three is, is this the worst offensive line golf has had and the lines have had since golf has been there, I should say, and how does that impact him?

And four is the, this schedule plus the toll of being so close two years ago, having the best record in the conference last year and not making the Super Bowl, does that, is it just too much to over? overcome. So with all that, for all those reasons, like, do I think it's on the board? The Lions go from the number one seed to missing the playoffs? I think that's on the board. Is that going to be my pick? I don't, I'm not sure yet. But I think that that team, they could take a major step back this year. And I think the coordinators are not all of it, but a big piece of it. All right, reminder, like, rate, subscribe, review. We, we, iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, all of that. All right, DeMonte, let's go to Zach's question.

Yeah, that's pretty good. If the Ravens have an MVP at quarterback and one of the best rosters in the league each year, when, oh yeah, when does Harbourn starts to get on the hot seat for not winning anything in years? I mean, honestly, a lot of what I said about McDermen. The culture, right?

Oh, well, no, about McDermin, about like if they lose again, even if he's a good coach, do you have to make a move? Would apply to Harbaugh except with the Ravens prior to last year. Folks were people didn't blame Harbaugh. They were just like Lamar didn't. Yeah, for real. Now last year, again, we don't have to relitigate it.

But Lamar wasn't horrific. You know what I mean? Like there was a lot that went into. Oh, wow. that there's a lot that went into um the the raven's playoff loss but here is some news yeah wow this is shocking to me so rishi rice news and i don't know how i feel about this to be honest with you um all right so rishy rice is expected to have his disciplinary hearing with the nflal on two Tuesday, September 30th in New York.

This means Rice is likely to be able to play the first four weeks of the season before any potential discipline is imposed for his role in a multi-car crash last, you know, in the 2024 off season. With Rish, this is from Schefter. With Rishi Rice is hearing now on track for September 30th, that would make him eligible play in, the Chief's opening four games, the Chargers in Brazil, the Eagles, at the time. the Giants and the Ravens. All right. I got to tell you,

assuming that he's not going to get 10 games, and I don't think that's likely, I think it is probably going to be four, five, or six, that would be my guess. This is kind of ideal for Kansas City. for three reasons to Monce. One is that opening month is brutal. You know, neutral sight against the second best team in the division.

Home game Super Bowl rematch, week two, week three at the Giants. And again, the Giants are going to have a great pass rush, but they're not a very good team. And then home for Baltimore to have that be, to know, Rice is going to be there for those games when the next handful of games are at Jacksonville, home for the Lions, home for the Raiders, home for Washington, that stuff, at Buffalo, they lose that game every year, then a buy week. Like, that timing I like a lot. That's first of all. The other one is this, I like the idea of the Chiefs being able to start the season whole. Like, see what I mean. see what it looks like and then you treat the suspension like a pulled hamstring.

Like, oh, he's going to be out six weeks. That's a bummer. But we already saw it. So I expected the suspension to be, you know, at least those first four games. It's now not. I mean, if he's not having his hearing until September 30th, he definitely, now the concern would be if the NFL like throws the book at him. and all of a sudden he misses the entirety of the rest of the year. Like what if the league gives him a 12 game suspension

and now instead of being back for the final month of the year, he's out until the final game of the year. But I don't think, I think when Jordan Addison got three games for DUI, I think Rashid, Rashis was different. Like it was wildly dangerous. and irresponsible.

There were minor injuries, but he also wasn't impaired. At least they, you know, wasn't proven to be. So I don't, so I think it'll be probably double Jordan Addison, you know, four or five or six is what I think will happen. But the timing of that's really, really lucky, um, for Kansas City. Start your chief's conspiracy theories now. Like rate, subscribe review. Appreciate all you guys.

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