The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - GIANNIS TRADE COMING? Cowboys season IN JEOPARDY vs. Lions? Texans-Chiefs MUST-WIN | Nick Wright

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.  Nick Wright breaks down the latest out of Milwaukee after Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly met with the Bucks to discuss his future. Nick also predicts where he thinks the disgruntled NBA star could be moved in a trade... including Jalen Brunson's New York Knicks & Steph Curry's Golden State Warriors? Then, Nick previews Week 14 of the NFL season, starting with the Thursday Night Football game between Dak Prescott's Dallas Cowboys and Jared Goff's Detroit Lions, with both teams' seasons on the line. After, Nick weighs in on the playoff race in the NFL and what needs to happen for Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs to sneak into the playoffs, including Nick needing to cheer on the rival Philadelphia Eagles. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I understand that it would appear Lawrence Frank has just a ton of friends in the media. But at some point, someone be like, oh, he's been running that team for a decade, has had limitless resources in a huge market, and they've never competed for anything. this year's team has been an embarrassment from the word go. They did create a dynasty potentially, but it's in Oklahoma City. Like anybody going to be like, hey, Lawrence Frank, let's check the ledger on good move, bad move, franchise altering disaster move, and you guys can't figure out, I understand if you guys were good and Chris Paul was a nuisance, it's one thing.

But when you're 5 and 16 to be like, yeah, Chris Paul's been a pain in the ass behind the scenes, Well, maybe you should just listen to him. Like, what's the worst going to happen from just being like, ah, we'll try it Chris's way. So there's that. Reminder everybody, like, rate, subscribe to view. Demonset, let's talk, Janice. Yeah, so on Tuesday, we talked about how impossible it was for Janus to be catching LeBron on that all-time season points. Today we're going to be talking about how possible it is that he's leaving Milwaukee.

Do you think that's going to eventually happen? His agent and the Bucks are talking about his future there. Yonis seems a little fake, too. What do you mean? I don't know. I feel like he says one thing and he always means another thing. Like, I feel like he did the same thing with the, like, Drew Holiday Trade. I feel like he did the same thing with this offseason.

Instead of he wants to be there, like, he kind of hasn't wanted to be there the entire time. So this kind of goes back to the Lane Kiffin thing. It's very important in life to learn at an early age. Nobody gets everything. nobody gets everything and there is there are trade-offs that adults have to make where they do the old cliche pros and cons list and you determine what matters most to you and what will make you happiest and act accordingly. And when you say Janus has seemed a little fake,

what I think is causing that is he wants to be beloved in Milwaukee and doesn't want to play for Milwaukee anymore. And he, I think, recognizes those two things might be in conflict. Now, I don't think he would ever be. reviled or hated in Milwaukee at large. He's a franchise legend. He delivered them their only championships since Kareem. He has been a great NBA citizen and an even greater NBA player or vice versa,

however you want to look at it. He's one of the 20 greatest players ever. All of that is, that cement is dry. But I think he understands. that in whatever is left of his prime, which could be, you know, up to four years maybe, you might have that much longer in his prime, this buck seems not going to be able to compete for anything. They have mortgaged and second mortgaged and taken out payday loans on the future,

and those bills have all slowly but surely come due. and so I think it's pretty clear he does want out and I think it's also pretty clear he doesn't know exactly how to do that because he doesn't want to just straightforward do a trade demand but we are inching towards it so in today's NBA there and by the way it should also be noted last night it looked like he might have suffered a catastrophe injury, the dreaded non-contact look back, did someone kick me reaction, which everybody

these days knows that is part and parcel with an Achilles tear, but we've now had back-to-back big-time athletes in a couple weeks have that exact reaction to what appears to be that injury, and for both of them, it was the far less serious but still very scary cashier. strain to what happened with Sauce Gardner a couple weeks ago, to what I'm with Yannis last night. And so I talked with, yeah, I'm allowed to say this. I actually, oddly, randomly, no, I'm not going to say who it was. I talked with one of the greatest athletes ever in real time about Tyrese Halliburton's Achilles right when it happened. And what that person said was in our game, the calf strain is the new, I think he said,

ACL. Not in that, you're out a year with it, but it's the most dreaded injury. And it's because there's no way this. again, this was this guy's opinion, but he would know. There's no way to rehab it. You simply have to stay off it. So I think Janus, like, here's the thing that I think is noteworthy and why I wanted to start with this.

It is very possible that last night was Janice's last game with the Bucks. That's on the board. I might even go as far as to say it's the most likely reality. Because if he has to miss weeks, maybe up to a month with a calf strain, and obviously he and Milwaukee are going to want to be incredibly cautious with this, Then come December 15th, you know, that's 11 days away. And that's when everybody who signed this offseason is eligible to be traded. More people are eligible to be traded starting the beginning of January.

And this just could happen in the next month. And at this point, I think it is going to happen in the next month. What do you think would be the best landing spot for him? so ESPN credit to them did a good job putting together five trades and this is why I'm I really want to credit them because with the new CBA in the aprons it is very difficult to construct trades that actually work so these five ESPN trades Bobby Marks has given them the stamp of, yes, the CBA would allow it. The off-the-board, most interesting one, that I actually think might be the most win-win, have a chance to compete, go on deep playoff runs, and you could sell it.

to both fan bases and sadly is the least likely to happen is Janus to the Hawks. So here is ESPN's trade is as follows. Janus and Cole Anthony for salary reasons. Four, Trey Young and Risa Shea. So the number one overall pick from a couple years ago in Risa Shea, Trey Young, who's got a couple years left on his deal, and then some really juicy picks, most notably, the first round pick the Pelicans traded to the Hawks.

Which keep in mind, here's why that trade is so interesting for Milwaukee. That first round pick, the Pelicans traded to the Hawks, DeMonsay, is the better of New Orleans's pick this year or Milwaukee's pick this year. Yeah. So what Milwaukee would, right, what Milwaukee would then allow for is if by trading Janus, you fall apart in the short term, you then have the Pelicans ping pong balls and your own ping pong balls. and your own ping pong balls, right? Right.

And whichever is the best of those two, you get that pick in this draft. Atlanta also has 2027 first round pick, top four protected in this trade. That is again, well, this is the worst of the pelicans and the bucks. but maybe you could sweeten it to the better of. And then a couple other picks. So that to me is really interesting. If you keep Jalen Johnson, you keep Dyson, Milwaukee then can maybe flip Trey Young as well.

And Risa Shea was the number one pick of a draft. And Atlanta, which has proven they're just as good, with or without Trey Young this season, maybe better without him. Janus, Jalen Johnson, Porzingis, when he's out there, to a very interesting team in a wide open east. And with flexibility moving forward. So that's the one that makes the most sense for everybody. I don't know that I think that one is

realistic in that. I don't know if that's something Janus would sign off on. Yeah. And, but I think that's the best Milwaukee can do. And it has seemed like Janice has wanted to play for a big market team. So the way that he talks. And that might be hard, but. Right.

And Atlanta is bigger than Milwaukee, obviously, but it's not like the marquee market. I also think Atlanta is more attractive to American-born NBA stars than international. So I think that, but from a basketball perspective, you stay in the Eastern Conference, the team keeps really good pieces. I think there's a lot of reasons for it. The next trade ESPN brings up is the one we talked about all summer, which was Janus to the Rockets. Here's the thing. So this is Janus and his brother for Shingoon and Van Vleet, who's obviously out for the year with an injury and one first round pick. I don't love this for either team.

Yeah. To be totally honest. I don't think that's quite enough. Demonsi, if you're Milwaukee. As much as I love Shingoon, that's to me not enough because you've traded away so many of your own future picks. Like, you need more draft capital. and if I'm Houston, I'm like, man, I'm all of a sudden getting really old. Like I already have Durant.

Now I'm adding a guy in year 13 in Yon. Chingoon's got a lot of promise younger. Yeah, right. It doesn't, right now as is, we have the number one offense in all of basketball. And we're doing it without a point guard because Shingoon kind of plays that. So that's just if I'm Houston and the other thing is if I'm in the West this year I don't know that I want to push all my chips in this year because I might feel like O KC's just sitting there anyway.

So I loved that this offseason. I don't love it as much now. The next trade ESPN had and again, I usually like to make my own trades, but the CBA is so restrictive, and there's only a handful of teams that this would make sense for, that it didn't make sense for me to, I would have come up with these,

everybody's talking about these same four or five teams, and if we're talking about the same teams, we're all going to be talking about the same players, so I'll just give Kevin Pelton and Bobby Marks their credit, for getting this out there and crib off their work. The next one to Monzae is the Knicks. Janice and Sims, again, for salary reasons, Sims back to New York, by the way.

For Carl Anthony Towns, Colac, Diodette. So it's really Janus for Towns, plus a 2026 first round pick that won't be a first round pick because it's the Wizards pick that's top eight protect. and where are the wizards so like that that one's that's a fake good pick like let me just look at the standings real quick yeah the was where i thought they would be where they always are dead last

so that that that the and then some pick swaps um and and just really just pick swaps so that's the the problem for Milwaukee getting to getting yonnes de monseh i'm sorry the nix getting yonis is it's really just yonis for town straight up with likely no extra picks right man that's a tough sell yeah that's a really tough sell if you're milwaukee yeah go ahead well yeah it was supposed saying you might i think car Anthony Towns is the better shot. Obviously, Janus is a more physical, imposing player, but... Oh, Janus is a way better player.

Oh, yeah. It would change. You would lose shooting. You would lose some spacing. There's no doubt about it. But if the Knicks could flip towns for Janus, and that's the only rotation pieces they're trading, they become the overwhelming Eastern Conference favorites.

Over the Jalen Brunson and Yannis running and pick, Like, there's overwhelming. I just, they traded all those picks away for bridges. Um, and so the only way Janice goes there is if the, he says that's the only place I want to go and Milwaukee bends to it. So there's two more. The spurs, they can include a bunch of picks. and again it would be a real negotiation are you including Castle or are you including Dylan Harper are you and are we trading de Aaron Fox that's the one that if if I were

Milwaukee I would be interested in if I could get Harper instead of Castle and if I were San Antonio, I might look at it like this, man, I do not know how long Wimby's Prime is going to be. Like I think that is, I think because of his size and already the injury stuff,

I think that like you can't treat Wimby's timeline like Cooper Flags or like a treat, traditional. So basically saying he's untouchable when it comes to trading? I can actually think about putting him in or are you saying? No, no, no, no, no. I'd never trade him.

What I'm saying is I think sometimes when you have a great, really young players not yet to his prime, you're like, let's wait to make the move. Oh, okay. So you're saying, like move now, act now. I'm saying accelerate. I'm saying if you're San Antonio, it might make sense to accelerate because you don't know if in 10 years what you know your best chance to win might be right you know the next four years or something so that to me is an interesting one but again does yonis want to go

uh from milwaukee to san antonio and does yonis want to spend the end of his prime as maybe the second guy on a team. I don't know. And then the last one is Golden State, which I just don't understand why Milwaukee would do this. This is Draymond, comminga, and healed, none of which are at this point in their careers, useful players like at a high level without Steph, without, you know, somebody that creates the offense. Draymond's super useful in his role, but on a bad team and then a bunch of first round picks, I totally get why the Warriors would do this, but I don't, I don't, I don't know why. And I don't, I feel like Drayon going to another team.

that definitely stunts it how much longer he's in the league. I think they'd buy, yeah, 100%. And I, you know, Dremont, you would then maybe flip Dremont to a contender that could want. Right. Because he's, Dremont's still super useful if you're playing big basketball games. Yeah, because I IQ and all that stuff.

But, yeah. And so, and if I'm Milwaukee, I don't know that I want a bunch of first round picks from Golden State when I know Golden State's got that ownership. that coach and going to have Janus, even when Steph is gone. So Atlanta's the best trade. Houston's the most interesting. The Knicks are far and away the worst trade and would only happen if Janus demands it. And Milwaukee acquiesces.

And then I don't see the Warriors and the Spurs one really depends on how aggressive the Spurs want to be. So, but I think Janice, my big takeaway, DeMonset is, I think we now, it is more likely than not that the next, because of the injury last night, the next game Janice plays in the NBA will be for a different team, which is crazy. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. Big news. Hard Rock Bet is now live in Michigan sign up today place your first $5 sports bet if it wins you get $150 in bonus bets on top of your winnings and if you're more into casino games new customers can get up to a thousand dollars back in casino bonus if you're not up money after your first 24 hours playing slots win money or get a casino bonus back plus you also get 200 bonus spends winnings paid in cash not sure what to place your first bet on head over to hard rock bet staff

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So it's very simple. Dallas needs two more wins than Philly, the rest of the way, in order to steal the division. So if Dallas goes 5 and 0 and Philly goes 3 and 2, Dallas wins the division. 3 and 2 are worse, obviously. If Dallas goes 4 and 1 and Philly goes 2 and 3, Dallas steals the division. Even if the Cowboys lose tonight, they then go home Vikings, home chargers, tough at the commanders short week Christmas don't know you know what the commanders will look like at that point should have jaden back and then at giants I think the cowboys even if they lose tonight

have a chance to go four and one and Philly on the other hand has a handful of oh well given how they've been playing they could lose that at the Chargers Monday night I Obviously, they could lose. Home for the Raiders, you can't lose. But then at Washington, at the bills, and then home for Washington. So even if the Cowboys lose tonight, I don't think we're going to be done talking about them, even though at that point, if they lose tonight, they're going to have to basically, you know, draw to an inside straight.

But I think they've got, they would have, like you said, 10% chance, maybe a little better than that. because I do think the Cowboys are playing at a super high level right now. So here are, and I expect the Lions to win tonight. I just think asking a team to beat Philly, beat Kansas City, then beat Detroit, the last of which is on the road is a hell of an ask. And the Lions are, you know, they haven't lost two in a row since, like, Dan Campbell's first year there. They've been incredible. They've been the best team in the league

at bouncing back from losses. And you mentioned if they lose, the athletic playoff predictor has them as the Cowboys at 10%. If the Lions lose, the athletic playoff predictor has them at 12%. So, and they don't have

just one team in front of them in the division that they would need to collapse. They have the Packers Bears in front of them in the division. and those teams play each other twice. So either one of them is going to go two and oh or they're going to split. So, you know, they are, as they sit here today, DeMonte, the lions are 4% to win that division. And with a loss, it's basically dead to win the division.

Now, I think the Lions win tonight. But it is, go ahead. I think, yeah, I think it's going to be pretty frisky. Well, the Cowboys look great. Yeah. Dack is playing out of his mind, and Dack with a great performance tonight and a win can maybe open up the MVP race to a third person. Yeah. Right now it's Stafford in May, but Dack, if Joe Burrow last year ended up getting votes,

and finishing fourth or fifth for a team that missed the playoffs. If Dak gets this team back from the dead and they end up, you know, running down Philadelphia and winning the division, then I think he might be, you know, him Stafford, and May will be a real discussion. And I think what people will say is Stafford's got a great defense. May's got a really good defense. The Cowboys defense, the first 10 weeks of the year, was a train wreck. And so that's how they will offset the records of those two guys.

I just, it's hard for me to believe, Demandze, that the lion's season is going to end tonight. It's not hard for me to believe the Cowboys. Listen, the Cowboys, they traded Micah, they've lost some bad games. They're hot right now. But are the lions going to in what is supposed to be their championship window flat, you know, miss the playoffs this year, which would then mean in consecutive years, they win a grand total of zero playoff games? they're going to go from up 17 in the conference championship game to the one seed and getting clocked in their first playoff game to out of the playoffs entirely.

And by the way, even if they win tonight, they might do that. Like if they win tonight, it is, and then they lose next week to the Rams, they're back down to 35% to make the playoffs. And the lions, the lions basically have to go four and one the rest of the way to make the postseason. If they do that, then they almost assuredly should be in. If they don't, then they almost assuredly are out. their games are home cowboys at the Rams, home Steelers, at the Vikings, at the Bears. It's not easy, man.

And so I don't, let me check. Oh, I saw it yesterday. Amon Rae St. Brown is listed as questionable. The, I think obviously they need. Yeah, I think he's going to play. and so if he were out with Leporta already out and some of the other injuries they have, that might be enough to push me to Dallas. With him playing, I, and the fact that I just don't, Dallas has looked amazing.

I'm, you know, I saw it up close and personal. Dallas has looked amazing the last couple weeks. But the week before that, you know, they lost to Arizona. they have they they they got i forget the other game because they lost back to back games but regardless um i don't i've got the lions tonight um but if the lions lose they're just done and that would just kind of be going out with a whimper that i don't expect even having lost the coordinators, which again, every year we, in the off season, we gloss over the coordinator losses. The lion's offense hasn't been the same without Ben Johnson. And the Bears' offense

running game has been unbelievable with Ben Johnson. The Lions defense has been fine, but they seem to miss Aaron Glenn, and the Jets might want to give him back. But it's just, it hasn't. And Dan Campbell taking over play calling didn't, you know, just snap fix everything. Are you thinking about upgrading to the all-new iPhone 17 Pro designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever, but you're also thinking about the hassle of getting to the store or what if you can't transfer all your data correctly? Well, good news. When you order a new phone online with Boost Mobile, they'll send an expert to your home

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Like the, then next, if they win or lose, next week's even bigger, honestly. So if they win, then next week against the Chargers, you really have a chance to get back on your feet. So if the Chiefs win and they, get to 7 and 6 and critically de facto pass Houston in the standings because they'll both be 7 and 6 but Casey will have the head dead tiebreaker and then you play the Chargers you have a chance if Philly beats the Chargers to also then draw even with the Chargers and be 8 and 6 with a Titans game coming up a Raiders game is your final game of the year and feel like okay you know, we can salvage this thing.

If you lose, then next week's game against the Chargers is a playoff game. And you kind of know deep down, even winning out, there's a very good chance. It's not enough. So the Chiefs can make the playoffs. They will make the playoffs if they run the table. table. They can make the playoffs at 4 and 1, but who that one loss comes to is wildly influential. So if they go 4 and 1, again, I'll just use the athletic playoff predictor, if they go 4 and 1, but the losses to the Texans, they're 40% to make the playoffs.

if they go 4 and 1, but the losses to the Chargers, they're 43% to make the playoffs. If they go 4 and 1, but the losses to the Broncos, they're 53% to make the playoffs. And that's because they're not trying, one of the teams trying to take that last playoff spot isn't the Broncos. It's the Texans or the Chargers. So, like, oddly, the team that,

If they go four and one, but the loss is to the Titans, they're 70% to make the playoffs, because that wouldn't be a divisional loss and the Titans don't matter. Regardless, point remains, losing either, the next two weeks for Mahomes are the biggest regular season games of his career, which are obviously, he's played in 21 playoff games. He's 17 and 4 in the playoffs. They're not, you know, they are, so they are the 22nd and 23rd biggest games of his career, but that's still something.

Here's the thing, though. All week long, De Manzay, I've been talking about, and folks seem in the national media, to also now be talking about that Chief's inability to get to the quarterback has been their problem. third down defense. My pal Mina Kimes had this. I'm going to read directly from her Twitter. She had the stats. From 2022 to 2024, when the Chiefs blitzed, they ranked first in yards per play,

second and pressure rate, third in sack rate. First, second, third when they blitzed over the last three years. this year in those same categories when they blitzed. They are 31st, 28th, 31st. So they have gone from the best blitz team in the league to the worst blitz team in the league. Their third and long defense has gone from great to awful, and those are hand and glove directly correlated.

With that said, DeMonze, that's not my biggest concern for this game. My biggest concern, go ahead. It's the whole line, I imagine, that defense coming up. Yeah. So Josh Simmons is out. He's on the IR.

Even if they make, I don't know, you know, they haven't given us an indication on if they make the playoffs, would he be back for a playoff run? God willing, if they make the playoffs, I'd hope so. But they've dealt without Josh Simmons. Jalen Moore is not as good as Josh Simmons, but they signed him this offseason. Simmons missed that time with the family issue. They've had someone else play left tackle this year and been okay.

But Jawan Taylor is also injured. He did not practice yesterday. Trey Smith is also injured. He did not practice yesterday. if Josh Simmons and your right guard and your right tackle are out against this Texans team, it is going to take one of the most brilliant Andy Reid game plans of his life and a 10 out of 10 even by his standards Patrick Mahomes performance to be able to move the ball. and so that's that's what i am scary oh yeah most missing reinforce now now the flip side is

this texans offense has been you really a mess all year and this is an opportunity for spags in that defense to cook a bit but this would be my number 32 draft pick of teams I would want to face with the offensive line in this in this shape. Yeah. And Wanya Morris has just been so problematic his whole career. Now listen, he's your third string left tackle. Nobody has a good third string left tackle. But man, that is, so that's my concern.

Is it fair to say that you need the running back? kind of step up in this game? I know like, yes. Yes. You're right. But the, I mean, the running backs, though, need good blocking too, but yeah, this is a game where you would love if you could hand the ball off 35 times. Right.

You would love it. I don't know that the Texans defense is just so good. And so, yeah, I'm concerned. Now, hopefully Arrowhead Sunday night, that crowd helps the defense. But I need to see the Thursday and Friday practice reports before I can give, because they can deal without Josh Simmons. It won't be great if they can deal with it. No Josh Simmons and no Joanne Taylor and no Trey Smith.

That might be a bridge too far against this defense. All right, let's, you know what? Let's get to, yeah, let's get to Eagles Chargers to Monzae. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

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I think he just got surgery. So he's day to day. So how is it going to feel this weekend when you're rooting for the Eagles? It's going to feel weird, man. I don't even know, like, because I, it's not that I have, like, lifelong disliked the Eagles. Most of my life, I didn't really care about him. I did, however, I liked Donovan because he was a Syracuse guy. I loved Vic when he was there.

I did root for them in the Super Bowl against Brady, just because it was fun seeing what Nick Bowles was doing. But now they are, you know, you play my team in a couple of Super Bowles. Your fans regularly accost me on the street. And so I've been, you know, pretty ardently not a big fan of Philly. And I think I've been fair in that. I mean, their team goes three and out more than any team in the NFL the last decade. They clearly have some issues. Can you believe that stat?

Yeah, that's wild. They have the highest three and out rate of any team in the NFL in the last 10 years. Yeah, I mean, how is it? The Titans are played. Right. So all of that, with that said, and maybe. this is a little heart overhead, but I don't think so because the Eagles are favorites. I think the Eagles D-line should be able to disrupt a battered Justin Herbert, assuming he plays enough

that they can win that game with their defense alone as bad as their offense has been. and man oh man do i need them to win that game now we don't know this is monday we're doing this thursday morning they're not we're not going to get a real update on herbert probably until the weekend um if tray lance beats the eagles it it's a five alarm fire in philly and it's devastating for the chiefs and i like tre lance um yeah but but and you know harball has got some something cooked up ready for him too. Yes. We saw him this offseason.

All right. Let's talk a little Hall of Fame here. Yeah, so we teased it on Tuesday. We ran out of time here. We're going to show the Hall of Fame semifinalists. Who do you think is going to get in? Who are our picks this year? All right.

So let's do this. And if you guys can keep a running tally in the dock, that would be helpful. Let's do this the way we did this before. which is, first let me tell the audience who are new to the ballot. First ballot possibilities are Breeze, Rivers, Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald, and Jason Whit. Okay. Now, let me tell the audience who was on the ballot last year and made the semifinals last year. Okay, or I'm sorry, last year was a finalist.

So got close last year. Eli, Fred Taylor, Holt, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Vinatary, Willie Anderson, Jari Evans, Marshall Yonda, Keakley, Suggs, Darren Woodson. Now let me tell the audience, folks, that our semi-finalists this year are not new to the ballot and were not finalists last year. Heinz Ward, Lomas Brown, Richmond Webb, Steve Wisniewski, Robert Mathis, Vince Wilfork, Kevin Williams, Rodney Harrison, Earl Thomas. Okay. we are going to snap do two things we are going to snap say breeze and fitzgerald are in so that's two of our five in we are also going to snap say rivers gore and whitten are not going to be first ballot guys this is their first time on the ballot any of those guys might event

make it. They're not making it this year. So we're going to eliminate those guys. By eliminating those guys, I am also going to eliminate finalists from last year, Fred Taylor, because I think Gore gets in before Fred Taylor. I think people think Gore had a better career than Fred Taylor. And if they're not going to put Gore in, I don't think they're going to put him in. So he's out. I am also. going to say that Heinz Ward, who was not a finalist last year, Lomas Brown, Richmond Webb, Mathis, Will Fork, Williams, Rodney Harrison, and Earl Thomas. They weren't finalists last year.

I don't think in a stacked class they're going to go from final it, from not even a finalist to end, so they're out. So for three spots, that then leaves us. Quarterback Eli Manning, wide receivers, Tori Holt, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, kicker Adam Vinatary, offensive lineman, Willie Anderson, Jari Evans, Marshall Yonda, linebackers, Keakley and Suggs,

and D-back, Darren Woodson. Okay. So there's that. I am, I don't, I don't necessarily, I don't think this is going to happen. But I do think when I'm looking at this, what would be kind of cool would be if they said, Vinotary, Will Fork, Rodney Harrison, you guys are going to, wait and if you're going to get in we're putting you in with brady and kind of just having an entire class of the patriots dynasty i think that would be pretty cool i don't think that's likely the way

they're going to go so of those guys that we have not yet eliminated i am now going to take off i'm going to eliminate Steve Smith because I just don't think he's better than these other guys. I'm going to eliminate Eli Manning because I don't think he was better than Philip Rivers. And that then leaves Tori Holt, Reggie Wayne, Adam Vinuterry, Willie Anderson, Jari Evans, Marshall Yonda, Luke Keakley, Terrell Suggs, Darren Woodson. I believe, and we already have Breeze and fits in, so we have three spots. I believe Luke Keekly gets in. Just too high of a peak and I think it's undeniable how Grady was. I think they are going to want to put in at least one offensive lineman, and I think it will be Willie Anderson.

And in part that's because I don't think they want them all to be kind of relatively new. And then that would, and you know what, I think they are going to put Venetary in with Brady. I think they're going to make him wait. I don't think they're going to put in, multiple wide receivers so Halt and Reggie Wayne are out. I don't think they're going to put in

multiple offensive linemen. So that then means it comes down to Terrell Suggs and Darren Woodson. And I think that so Keekley is going to have the argument of my peak was so insane. I played eight years.

I was a five-time first-team all-pro, a two-time second-team all-pro, and a defensive player of the year. I think Terrell Suggs's argument would be, I also was a defensive player of the year. I won a couple Super Bowls. I want it. Do I have it here? How many total career sacks he had?

I have 139 career sacks. And I think that rather than directly compare the two, they put them both in. So Terrell Suggs, sorry Darren Woodson, is not in. So Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keekley, and Terrell Suggs, along with offensive lineman Willie Anderson. That is my projection for this year's Hall of Fame. I love doing this exercise. I'll never go four for four again.

I also want to go ahead and plant my flag on. I think it'd be pretty damn cool if they could find a way to get a Patriots class. So the problem is going to be that gronk is going to be eligible before Tom. Gronk's final year was 2021. Tom's final year was 2022. But if just maybe

you could and Gronk deserves to be first ballot with a bullet. But Vince Wilfork, Rodney Harrison are deserving at some point to be Hall of Famers. Adam Vinnett

at some point we'll get in. Grunk is eligible next year. If you could just tell Grunk, wait one year, and we're going to have the first ever one team class with Brady, that would be pretty sick. and just the Patriot dynasty sweep the board, I think that'd be pretty sick. We should put this on the internet since Wilds is turning me back into a Patriots hater, so all the Patriot fans know I respect what they did.

I'm planning my flag on. I came up with the idea. Convince Grunk that it's not an insult. He's not first ballot. he's going to have to wait one more, one extra year, and then everybody goes in with Tom. Grank, Vinatari, Will Fork, Rodney, Brady. And that's your Hall of Fame class in 2028? That'd be pretty sick.

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