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DeMonse, good to see you. How are you this morning? Good to see you, doing great, feeling
refreshed. I, uh, good. I'm glad you're feeling refreshed. I'm finally, I think, caught up on sleep
after a weekend in Vegas without much sleep. I also have some quick little business to handle
before we get to the actual show. On today's show, by the way, we will talk about the potential
collapse of one of my Super Bowl picks, the Philadelphia Eagles. The only saving grace for me is
all off season.
I was like, hey, could see him going 14 and 3, could also see him going 7 and 10.
Now I did end up landing on the 14 and 3 go to the Super Bowl side of it.
But it was, this was always on the board.
And we'll discuss why and what they do from here later.
We will also, this Thursday night football game tonight, that the Cowboys can kind of just end.
Another one of my not Super Bowl picks, but playoff picks, the buck season.
A little worried about that game for the Cowboys.
We'll just a tiny, whenever your defense is that bad,
an upset is always on the board, is what I would say.
Even against a backup quarterback, if you have just a terrible defense,
all it takes is one mishandled kick return.
The other team gets back-to-back possessions,
and you're playing from behind the eight ball the whole game.
So we will discuss that.
and a little sports media
on Budsman on what's right with Nick Wright,
a little media commentary after some viral takes yesterday.
But before we get to any of that,
I have been dealing with for years
the taxed Amaze of at some point on some pod on this show.
I did a power ranking of my,
my children.
And I put, I said in that very moment when you were asking me, your youngest sister was in
last place.
And she has, I forgot even what she had done.
It was something.
I thought it was, I thought I was being as they would say cheeky.
She has never taken it that way.
She brings it up quite a bit.
Oh, she saw that.
I guess.
I don't know, man.
There are two things she brings up all the, not all the time, but way more often than she should.
One is six years ago, seven years ago, I guess actually, when we were moving into the house we currently live in and I was building an IKEA closet, she came by as a five or a six year old and asked me for a hug.
and I said not right now
because I was like lifting something up
and she to this day
will be like don't say I can have a hug
whenever I want remember the time in the closet
and she'll bring up the power rankings thing
so with that said
today happens to be
and this is kind of horrifying
for me
my baby girl's
13th birthday
your little sister
is a teenager now
And so if you were to ask me this very moment, this second, power rank the kids, she is in pole position.
You are in a strong number two and nothing against Deora, who's very often the favorite, but she left me on red yesterday on a text message that was good advice.
So right now she's in last.
Everybody's getting left on red by Dior.
It's crazy.
What is she doing?
I mean, she's just out to lunch.
She just won't even come see us or won't even talk to us.
It's really unbelievable.
So happy birthday, baby girl.
Happy birthday, I love you.
I'm going to tell you one other quick thing before we get to the real show.
She sent us a birthday list that was like a Christmas list.
It's like, you know, calm down a bit on this.
But one of the things on there was for me to talk to my.
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Drake May is not certain we landed on the moon. Tyrese Halliburton returns from his Achilles injury.
Probably upset that game wasn't all, you know, on ESPN national television. And Lamar, I, unconventional ankle sprain.
Now, Schaefter came out yesterday and it was like, maybe he'll play. I, the, I, Lamar's injury stuff is always.
a little murkier than most.
I do not expect him to play this weekend.
The odds makers don't expect him to play this weekend.
Go ahead.
You think that it's always weird for Lamar with his injury stuff because he doesn't have an agent?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
That's exactly.
I don't think that's the only reason.
But I think, no, no, no.
I think that's part of it.
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I just want to paint the picture over.
time down three playoff game there's four and a half seconds left ryan ruko on the call doing a great
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She's like, I don't want to blame the reps, but it's very frustrating when, because Atlanta was at the free throw line leading up to it.
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Can we advance it?
And both of them told us we were out.
So they wanted to advance it.
They asked if they could.
The refs both told them no.
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The refs told us no.
And then they did have one.
That's a brutal mistake.
And even if you're like, well, it's up to you to keep track of that stuff of the coaching staff, you almost would, even if you're certain you have it, be like, well, the refs who are the ones to determine this are telling us we don't.
You get a technical for that.
Yeah, you get a technical in the game's over.
So that's a really tough spot for a team that, you know, had a huge upset in round one.
And it's just a tough spot.
Okay.
This has been a rough few days for Eagles fans.
It was compounded a bit yesterday, it would appear, by Stephen A's jocular,
what many people perceived as
mocking
Lane Johnson retiring for mental health purposes
the too long didn't read version of it is
Stephen A, not at all to the amusement of his panel
you know, it was like, uh, basically,
Eagle season's so bad, this guy's saying it's bad for my mental health.
And then he kind of
softened it after Kimberly Martin did him a solid and he's like some people might think you're making
light of a mental health situation. Then he went on his podcast and after promoting the TV show
where he said it and then spending two and a half minutes explaining about his own struggles,
he explained why the audience might have misconstrued what he said. You're an Alcotta.
So there are three points I want to make on this. The first one is, and all of you,
these kind of, I'm going to try to make them
how I view it, how it applies to me, so it doesn't feel like
an outward attack, even though I'm sure Paul's going to put on
YouTube on the thumbnail on this, Nick Wright,
eviscerate Stephen A. Smith.
Not really what I'm doing, but maybe it is.
One thing I worry about for me is, and I try to be aware of,
am I spreading myself too thin?
I do the TV show for two and a half hours every day.
I do this show three days a week,
and this show has gotten longer and longer and longer.
I might start doing this show even more often.
I am, you know, side-questing,
trying to become a semi-professional poker player.
I have different stuff.
I'm thinking about doing on Sundays during NFL football.
And there's only so much time.
There's only so many hours in a day.
I obviously have wife, kids, family.
And I worry at times.
Not am I spreading myself too thin?
Like, am I going to wear down?
I don't really worry about that.
I'm 42.
I'm an old 42 because I'm a grandfather.
However, I'm a young 42 and kind of how I live my life.
I'm not worried about that.
I am worried, Damanze, am I not going to be quite as informed?
Am I going to talk more about things?
And because of that, I am less informed about the things I'm talking about.
Does that make sense?
Like, am I, am I so, am I on the air so much that I have less time to like consume the info,
watch all the games like I love to do?
And am I going to, are you going to have an emperor has no clothes moment of like,
this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
So that is why I am so much more hesitant these days than I was 10 years ago or maybe even
five years ago to talk politics or real life stuff.
Because if I make a mistake or if I'm not fully informed on,
nonsense fun carnival sports stuff i can you know it's embarrassing i hate being you know having fact
errors but i can i can deal with that but on real life stuff that impacts people or affects
people i really don't want to give my opinion if i don't feel totally a hundred percent buttoned up
on things, which is why on this show, really never on the TV show anyway, but on this show
or on Twitter, I only venture into the real life stuff that I am super well informed on,
that I am super passionate about, and I feel totally buttoned up about, because I haven't,
I haven't followed the day to day of the closing of the straight of Hormuz.
I haven't followed the day to day of the upcoming midterm elections.
I think I followed it as much as the average American has, but not in a way that I feel comfortable giving opinions on it because it's real life stuff.
And where I think, not where I think, where I know Stephen A steps on a rake somewhat often is however much I'm working, he's working more.
he is on so many shows on multiple platforms that he owns that ESPN owns that
serious owns other people shows on CNN on Bill Marr all of these things and he is you know
what he's talking about today whatever the hell the big news of the day is across the board
and you simply cannot be super well informed on everything after
all times, which is why it's so dangerous.
Dangerous is probably too strong.
But it can be problematic if it's like, oh, what's the big topic to, listen, I'm doing
my political show.
There's a lot of stuff going on.
Watch the football this weekend.
It's a Wednesday.
There were no games last night.
I was catching up on this.
What's the big story?
O' Lane Johnson retired.
Oh, he said it was for mental health.
Man.
Eagles sure must suck.
So, I got it, you know what?
I got it.
Don't worry about it.
I got it covered.
I got a good bit on this.
The Eagles are so bad right now.
It's hurting guys mental health.
That's funny.
Without having the time or the wherewithal to know the background.
That Lane Johnson thought about retiring in the off season.
That Lane Johnson, I'm not going to get into the specifics on this because it's been lightly reported, but it's not really my business.
he seems to have family that is in failing physical health,
that he is truly dealing with things outside of the day-to-day stresses of an NFL season.
Had, I believe, had Stephen A. known that?
Had he had the time to research it?
or if he had just been dialed in enough to just sports.
Like, I wasn't, I didn't know all the, when we saw Lane Johnson retired,
I didn't know all the specifics of everything.
I know more of it now.
But I'm dialed in enough to the day to day sports that I remembered,
oh, he thought about retiring in the off season.
I think he has a family situation going on.
He missed this Sunday's game because of last minute person.
reasons. I saw someone report he was contemplating retirement. So it gave me a context of if I had to be
on the air the moment after he retired, which by the way, he retired Tuesday. This was Wednesday morning
that this happened. So it wasn't like live on the air reaction. You had time, but regardless.
I would have at the very least known, err on the side of caution here.
Some, you know, there's other things of play.
But if you're doing 100 different things at all times, you don't have that context.
So that's first point.
There is a tax to spreading yourself this thin.
I'm not even saying you shouldn't do it, but you might have a responsibility to the audience
if you are going to do it to really, really make sure you're coloring with
in the lines once we're not talking about is DAC Prescott overrated.
It's first point.
Second point is this.
And this is something that again applies to me personally.
And you guys have heard me talk about this a bit.
If you go back and watch the initial clip that everyone got mad at, watch it through the
eye of and asking this question, is Stephen H.
trying in that moment to do a good television show or is he trying to create a good viral clip also under
the context of he did not in that moment think he was doing anything wrong or being harmful or hurtful
i'm not saying and this is if you are at one of those tables on tv it is such a different medium
than how i am right now right now i am talking to you right
now I occasionally do things that I'm like, you know what, this will be good as a 90 second breakout on social media.
It is not communal.
It is when DeMonze and I are riffing back and forth, that's somewhat communal.
But this is a lot of me monologuing, you and I bouncing off each other.
It's very different than the TV show, which is we're out there playing jazz going back and forth.
and there is a there there there there are moments and this again it is why in my opinion that tv show is not as good as it once was and it once was the best
there are moments on that show and there are other folks some very very popular folks that consistently do this on their TV shows which is
I'm not trying to have a communal experience that'll be a good segment.
I am trying to have the hottest, most viral take of the day.
There's a very popular sports media guy who you can't go a week without him for two minutes,
staring down the barrel of the camera, delivering some rant,
semi, you know, straw man angry about something that exists on a TV show, but it is not for that
TV show at all. It is for him to be able to put on Twitter. And it felt like that's what Stephen A
was doing yesterday. It felt like he didn't care that nobody was laughing with him. He didn't care
that the room wasn't with him. I don't think he recognized how much he had stepped in it, but he's like,
this is going to be good. They're going to put on the internet. The Eagles are
are so bad. Stephen A. says
they're wrecking guys mental health.
You know, laughing emojis.
And it'll, and I,
it's surprising when someone
does that when they have a separate
platform like this. I used
to do that a lot when the TV
show first started.
When it was, I was not doing right by
Chris Carter and Jenna Wolf when I did it, which was
I would, there would be,
I would put stuff into the show
that I didn't even necessarily think was
going to be good TV. But I'm like,
shit, man, that's going to be a good clip.
Like, I've got a good 90 seconds on it.
But now I have this.
So it's surprising to see Stephen A. doing that when he has these other platforms to do it.
And then last but not least, and then we will move on.
And this is something the last time we discussed Stephen A that I made the point of,
and sadly it still really applies, you've got to see.
simply be able to take an L and actually apologize.
Not I'm sorry for how this was misconstrued on my TV show that you can watch 10 to noon every day on ESPN
and then try to garner your own level of sympathy or whatever it was by explaining your own
very real struggles with mental health after a very real personal tragedy.
It is not that hard, folks, to simply be able to be like, hey, earlier today, I was on TV.
You guys know I do a lot of stuff.
I have a lot of responsibilities.
There are a lot of things I'm following.
I did not have the full context of everything Lane Johnson was going through.
it's my responsibility to have that context that's totally on me it's not on any producers it's not
on anyone else i thank kimberly martin for having my back in it but it was my my responsibility and
my screw up i thought this was a lighthearted moment and i was trying to be funny now that i do have
the full context i realize that was wholly and totally
inappropriate for the situation. I've reached out to Lane via the Eagles to apologize,
and, you know, I will try to do better to make sure that when real life stuff happens,
that I triple check I have all the facts, rather than assume I have all the facts,
and just go with, you know, trying to be entertaining and funny and that stuff. So I'm really
sorry about that. I screwed that up. It's not hard. And the audience appreciates it. And it doesn't make you a lesser
man. It doesn't make you a lesser broadcaster. Doesn't make you any of those things. To just be like,
I screwed that up. Here's why I screwed it up. Here's what I will do in the future to try to make sure I
don't screw that up again. And we roll. But putting it on the audience, I'm sorry that you guys didn't get
what I was saying and then doing an appeal to authority fallacy of actually here's how tuned
into mental health issues I actually am because of real life stuff I had to deal with myself
that ain't it man just not it it's not the biggest thing in the world but he is the biggest person
in the world in the space and there are a lot of folks that take little pot shots at you know what
the craft I have dedicated my professional life to because of stuff like that.
And so it's worth 15 minutes from me off the top of the show.
That's it.
This will do shockingly well on YouTube because people love media on media crime.
But Moni said on a podcast yesterday that he thinks his podcast might do bigger numbers
if it was just this stuff.
If it was only, if he just did, like, was the ESPN ombudsman
and just commentated on what was going on there, might be right.
I don't know why the algorithm loves it.
They love it.
I, that is not why I did this.
I try to do it sparingly, but it was a big story.
I thought it deserved the time.
Now we can talk about the actual football implications, pal.
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Let's bring the Monzee back in, go ahead.
Yeah, so along with Lane Johnson retiring, Cam Jurgens, guys.
traded to my Ravens.
So they're now down three offensive linemen from opening night.
They've had some weird situations, but still going on to win the Super Bowl and a couple
years past.
Does this situation, situation feel different?
It feels really different.
So Lane Johnson, do you remember a couple years ago, not a couple years ago, a year
ago to Monzae, when Micah got traded and we showed the Barnwell staff,
Cowboys with Micah on the field, top three defense,
Cowboys with Micah off the field, bottom three defense,
and like over the course of his career,
and just the impact that one player had,
those same exact stats just on the offensive side of the ball
exists for the Eagles with Lane Johnson.
Their offensive efficiency, their passing game,
their running game, their win percentage,
all of it has hinged on whether,
he is or isn't playing over the years.
He is a dominant all-time player.
And so him walking away is devastating.
The fact that the Eagles team, more than any team in the league, is built inside out.
And now all of a sudden it's Jordan Milata and a bunch of kids is devastating for the Eagles.
the fact that this is happening in the midst of what I think is fair to call the biggest slump of Jalen Hertz's career since he's been an established starter is problematic in the context of Sequin Hurd's hamstring, Tank Bigsby's on the IR, Devante's dealing with something, this could be a system failure.
this could be an absolute unrecoverable spot for them.
And I do wonder if that is one of the reasons.
Howie Roseman decided, you know what,
if we're going to move on from Cam Juergens at some point, do it now,
second round picks a good return.
He wasn't playing great anyway.
The Ravens really need a center
as they were like down to their fourth string
and this season might really get away from us.
I think that's on the board.
I said before the year that when I picked him
to go to the Super Bowl,
they had the biggest variance of any team in the league
and that I could see them winning seven games
and Siriani hot seat or maybe mid-season fire.
it certainly looks like they are closer to that than they are to rally.
They've played four games this year.
First game against what I believe will end up being a below average Washington team.
Washington has a two-point conversion to force overtime.
Next game, the Titans dare them to try to beat them through the air.
The Eagles take that dare.
The Titans win it for 58 minutes and then Jalen to his credit.
and the only reason this season is not totally off the rails is because Jalen's final drive in that 90 seconds against the Titans.
You then get annihilated by 38-year-old Case Keenham and the Chicago Bears,
and then you blow a game to the Rams where you have negative passing yards in the second half.
All of that plus the injuries and the retirement and the trade.
And so I don't, I don't see how they pull themselves out of this.
And it is stunning, De Manzee, to see the Philadelphia Eagles as seven and a half point neutral field underdogs.
Like, I, that is, with Jalen Hurts playing, that is a wild, wild situation.
I mean, they're doing weird stuff.
Team doesn't look great.
So understandable.
Go ahead.
Philadelphia now is two firsts and two seconds in the 2028 draft.
Do you think that a rebuild is on the horizon?
And if so, do you think that they should keep Siriani?
Well, at this moment, I would be surprised if Siriani is, right now, yes or no,
will Siriani be the head coach to Philadelphia Eagles in 2027?
say no um and this is where we have to do quickly some nerdy salary cap stuff okay so many times the eagles
have signed a player or done a contract some folks in the media have been like see salary caps fake
look at what they're able to do the way they manipulate the cap with void years all of it
and it is true that if you have an owner like geoffrey lorry who does not mind forking over a ton of
cash up front you can temporarily render the salary cap effectively meaningless
via option bonuses pro rated signing bonuses and void years
but that bill 100% of the time comes due.
And by what I mean by that is every single dollar you pay any player shows up at some point on some year's salary cap.
Now I understand folks are like, yeah, but the salary cap's always raising.
And sure, you can look at it as not only an interest-free,
loan, but a plus money loan where you're taking a loan and it actually costs you less to pay it
back in four years than it does right now. So you can look at it as a smart way to do business to a
degree. The Eagles have done business to such a degree like that that they have sitting waiting for
them a massive salary cap dead money. Time bomb is
too strong, but potentially catastrophic situation in the year 2028, but really the year
29, where you're talking about 90 some million in Jalen Hertz void years that if you don't extend
him will accelerate onto the cap. A Jalen Carter deal where he averages nearly $40 million a year
in salary, yet his cap hit in each year of the extension is 8.5, 15, 22, and then 29.
So you have 70 million in void years for Jalen Carter.
You have so many of these guys that they clearly, what the Eagles have done historically is,
supercharge a run, tear it down, and then get back at it.
The fact that they now have multiple first and second round picks in 2028 gives you a little idea of when they think they are going to need young cheap players because all of these bills are coming due.
I am here to tell you and we'll see if I end up being proven right.
We don't have to spend too much more time on it.
It is very, very on the board that whether it's next year or the year after,
that the Eagles go into a season with more dead money on their salary cap than any team in NFL history,
that they have a hundred plus million in dead money, try to take the whole pill at once,
then use those new draft picks, the edition of draft picks, to reboot the whole thing.
They are a great organization.
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good infrastructure, but they have kept putting things on the credit card and being and basically
doing it the way, shoot, I used to do it in Houston, DeMonsei knows this, the audience may or may not.
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Yeah.
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And I know what the number exactly was.
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I was going to guess like 20.
When.
No, no, no, when at the time, I wasn't making much more than that annually.
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Florio news, I guess.
Oh, yeah, so Sean Payton sounds like he's taking back over the play calling from Davis Webb,
from Vic Lombardi here says that Davis Webb will meet with the Broncos media today.
He will be asked about play calling duties.
I'm told Sean Payton will be playing a bigger role in those duties, how big remains to be seen.
Yeah, so, this is, so hold on, let me see.
So this is not...
Oh, yeah, Florio is.
So I'm going to read directly from Floreo's article,
which came out like 45 minutes ago.
The Davis Webb experiment is over.
Webb, who was promoted offensive coordinating the offseason
and given the keys to the play calling car,
we'll have those keys rescinded this weekend
when the Broncos face the Chargers.
Former NFL receiver Brandon Stokely,
who was now part of the morning show
in 1043, the fan in Denver,
was the first left the cat out of the bag.
he said i'm hearing that sean peyton is going to be taking over play calling this week stokely
tweeted wednesday night florin back to florio we've since confirmed that indeed
peyton will be calling the plays again uh he then you know writes you know all about the context of it
my immediate reaction and this is again this show is kind of a life advice show at times
man if you have an opportunity and i'm not sure davis web did or didn't but if you have an opportunity
to take a great job a big promotion and you have to leave where you're at to do it and then in
order to convince you not to leave the place you're at offers you things they never previously
would have offered you, you maybe should just leave.
Because it probably means they are offering you those things under duress,
and they might not really want to offer them to you.
That's what happened with Davis Webb.
Davis Webb, now maybe he wasn't going to get it,
but Davis Webb was being considered for the Bill's head coaching job.
Davis Webb was a hot head coaching candidate,
and he did.
not, if I am remembering the stories correctly, fully pursue them because Sean Payton's like
stay here and in addition to being OC, I'll let you call plays. And it took one half of one game
for Sean Payton to publicly regret it. It was half time of week one against the Chiefs
when he was asked about it. And he said, ask me after the game and I'll tell you how I feel.
Sean Payton loves calling plays.
It's what Sean Payton does the best.
And so this is, I'm not even saying Sean Payton is wrong for doing it.
They have scored 13 points in the first half of games, 13, 3.3 points per game in the first
halves.
You were bad in the first half last year, though, weren't they?
That is true.
Yes.
I felt bad for Davis Webb in this situation.
All the public criticism and when something's going wrong, they're like, oh, Sean Payton going to take, like, he gave him the job.
I hate how it was like dangling it in front of him and how it's like, oh, he maybe shouldn't deserve it.
And it's like, this is not much different from what was going on last year.
It's just like you gave the guy the job, show him some respect.
I totally agree with that.
I totally agree with that.
And even if behind the scenes, Sean Payton instantly.
regretted it and was like, shoot, this might not work.
You have to publicly be totally back your guy.
Even if behind the scenes, you might end up knifing him.
But it was, it was humiliating for Davis Webb.
Just consistently humiliating on that.
And it is not a couple things.
One is Sean Payton's the head coach.
It's a lot.
It's not like he doesn't have any say.
He's an offender head coach, have any say in the offensive game plan.
The opening script, the opening couple drives of these games are scripted.
That's not even play calling, really.
Like, you can have a huge say in that, and they've scored no points on the, I mean,
they've scored 13 first half points, the whole thing.
The other piece of it is your quarterback might not be that good.
And that could be a huge piece of it.
And it's your handpicked quarterback that you took victory laps about how you
tricked the Vikings into trading up for JJ.
You always wanted Bo Nix.
You had this, remember his unique independent algorithm on evaluating quarterbacks and
Bo Nix checked all these boxes.
Listen, Sean Payton's a fickle.
Brilliant offensive mind and has a very good coaching resume.
I don't have a ton of evidence that, how do I put this gently, that I would enjoy
hanging out with him.
Now, he might not enjoy hanging out with me.
But doesn't just strike me as my type of guy.
And so we'll see if it fixes it.
They're playing the hapless chargers.
All right, let's talk NFC East here.
NFC East is wide open.
We talked about the Eagles and their struggles.
The Cowboys play tonight and they cannot figure out the defense.
Washington has Jaden Daniels back,
which might be a bad decision.
New York has James Winston starting a quarterback
and is at the top of the division.
Who do you trust in this division, if anybody?
Right now, nobody, and this is stunning.
But I think, DeMonset, this is the worst division in the NFL.
It might be.
Um,
like, think about it.
NFC South has some friskiness to it.
No, yeah.
The Panthers are a real team.
The Falcons, since they got pinnicks back, are a real team.
The AFC South, I would say, is the closest.
Yes, however, the Jags are excellent.
Jags are legit excellent.
The Colts, it's like, hey, we lost the Ravens and the Chiefs.
Like, we beat the other teams.
And the Texans are bad.
but it's hard to accept in your brain they're bad.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like the Texans is like, come on.
The CJ's playing good.
And so the Giants are three and one.
But James has been really, has really struggled.
And so the giants I can't fully believe in.
We just talked about the Eagles ad nauseum.
You then have Washington.
We'll see with Jaden back.
and they did beat Philly.
I mean, sorry, they did beat Seattle.
So credit to Washington on that front.
However, I didn't think they were going to be a, you know,
a good team before Jaden once again got hurt and we'll see how healthy he is.
And then there's Dallas, which I got to,
it would not shock me to Monzee if Dallas wins by 30 tonight.
Let me be clear.
You're playing an undrive.
crafted rookie free agent quarterback out of Kansas for a team in the box that is dating back to
basically week seven of last year has just been totally lost and Todd Bowles I'm sure is you know
checking out like sick European cruise options in November because he thinks he's going to have
time available with that said when you have a defense as bad as Dallas is you
always can get got and typically the the bugaboo if you will of young untested quarterbacks is
they get absolutely undressed by good defenses they get semi often tricked by decent
defenses, but against bad defenses where their first read is open, they can look good.
And so I am, if I'm a Cowboys fan, I am semi-anxious about this evening's game because it's now three
straight years of the Cowboys defense just being utterly hapless.
And they allowed 28 to Jackson Dart, 20 to the commanders in a game where Jaden goes out,
34 to Baltimore, 30 to Houston.
And so the answer is no, I don't trust any of these teams.
I will say if the Cowboys don't win the.
the division this year, it's a catastrophe for them.
Giants law.
And also, let me add one other thing.
If I'm a Giants fan watching all this, I am sick to my stomach.
Dart is hurt.
You're sick either way, but particularly sick because, geez, man, Philly's falling apart.
We're already, you know, we've proven wing beat Dallas.
Jayden's going out there with the inspector gadget thing on his arm.
like, it's not, if you're a giant fan, I do, and the Yankees just lost yesterday. Yikes.
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All right, DeMonte, let's talk about America's Game of the Week 425 Eastern on Fox this Sunday.
We got nineers who have looked great, undefeated.
You've got to think that the injuries are going to come back to bite them at some point.
And then Seattle, he's got Donald.
Yeah.
Who's got Darnel, who struggled since he's been back, but they are missing.
Kenneth Walker. Who do you think has more to prove in this one?
Oh, I think the Niners have more to prove, but I think Seattle's going to win.
The reason I say the Niners have more to prove is Seattle is the defending champ who won games with its backup quarterback had kind of a weird loss to Washington and then bounced back last week.
And that was a weird Seattle game last week. Now, I will admit this is a game that I saw.
saw very little of live because I was at the Chiefs game.
Now, in the suite I was in, they did have Red Zone on a TV.
So during breaks in the Chiefs game, I would catch moments,
but I had to go back and kind of catch up back up on the late afternoon window Sunday.
But Seattle was in total control of that Chargers game.
They're up 27 to 6 midway through the third.
And then I, you know, lost to me.
it appeared a degree of concentration, and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, crap,
we got to pick up this third down or the Chargers can get the ball back down seven.
Seattle, I think, is excellent.
The Niners have been absolutely outstanding,
and the Niners' defense has been, to me,
one of the biggest shocks of the season.
A bigger shock than Purdy playing great is how well the Niners have played.
we have the
yeah
bucks for the Niners on
play the Dolphins
play the Cardinals
the Broncos
offense
and yeah
and right
so there's a lot of
the
again
you beat the Rams by 20
you beat the Broncos
who were supposed to be good by 10
like so those
those are good wins
the context of them is the Rams seemed to instantly be like, you know, our travel plans ruined us.
Plus, basically no Miles Garrett and no Aaron Donald.
Like that was a Stafford played poorly.
Now, some of that they did to him.
I'm not, I am not, it sounds like I'm hedging here.
I'm not trying to hedge.
What I'm trying to say is there are nits you can pick in the 4 and 09ers,
just like there are nits you can pick in the 4 and 0 Chiefs.
And the Vikings, it's obvious.
It's not a knit to pick.
It's that their offense is awful.
Like, that one's staring you in the face.
If the Niners go to Seattle and win,
they're just the best team in the NFL.
I am, I don't think it's going to go that way.
And as great as Purdy's been,
I could see, maybe I'll be wrong,
I could see Brock Purdy,
who's been sacked zero,
times and has thrown one interception all year having five combined sacks and interceptions in this game
along. That Seattle, something to prove, and they, you know, the fact that they are chasing
the Niners, and the Niners, the Niners come into this game like, hey man, we already beat the Rams,
we beat Seattle. Both our division opponents have two losses.
and we have the head-to-head victories.
It's also a little hard for me to get out of my head.
We saw these two teams play in the playoffs.
Seattle beat them 41 to 6.
We saw these two teams play at the end of the regular season last year
for the one seat on the line.
Seattle beat them 13 to 3.
Now the 13's not great, obviously.
But they have played twice in 2026.
you know, twice this year technically,
and the Niners scored a combined nine points.
In the 13 to three game, Brock Purdy was 19 of 27 for a buck 27,
zero touchdowns one pick, a 65 rating.
And in the 41 to six game, I think he was worse.
In that game, Purdy was 15 of 27, a buck 40, a 54 rating,
zero touchdowns one pick.
That defense, which is a little different this year, but mostly the same, really annihilated the Niners attack.
So I lean that that could happen again.
Is Purdy jump Josh Allen with a win here in the MVP race?
I think Party is already the favorite.
I know he's not in the prediction markets and stuff.
I understand the prediction markets are saying who we think.
is going to win.
That is different than who is the MVP right now.
Like if there was, if there was a quarterly MVP vote,
I think the prediction markets would have Brock Purdy as a strong favorite and
Kenneth Walker is second.
It's like, hey, everyone's voting today on MVP through four weeks.
Purdy would win and Kenneth Walker would be right there after him.
and third would probably be Trevor.
Like Josh Allen would not, listen, there would be some folks that vote Josh first because some folks vote Josh first every year.
But he would not win.
What they're anticipating is that he's going to have a great year, that the Niners intergress a bit, all of that.
Speaking of Josh, let's go to the bills, please.
Yeah, so we got some complaints.
Defensive Act D. Alford was talking about the new stadium saying that it's,
super loud to the point we were not able to get the play in as fast as we need it.
Their defensive coordinator, Jim Leonard, came in and said,
it's always harder to communicate at home than it is on the road.
If we complain about that, we are A-Holes.
Yeah, so you want to talk, what's going on?
Listen, the Bill's defense is right now a problem,
which is crazy because they have a great D-line.
Greg Rousseau leads the NFL in Sacks.
It's just everything after their D-line has been,
problematic, particularly their secondary.
They do seem to miss
Sean McDermott in that regard.
Defense complaining about it being so
loud when they're on the field. It's one of the most
ridiculous things I've ever heard in sports.
It's just not a thing.
It literally
it's the biggest piece of home field
advantage. I feel like as a coach
or as the owner, you got to tell your team
you can never publicly complain about how loud it is
inside of our home stadium. No.
Especially because it's beneficial.
Because here's, again, I don't want to, it's not that complicated.
But defensive calls are relatively basic.
There's only so many coverages you're going to run.
Most of them can be communicated via hand signal if need be.
Offensive calls are very complicated.
You got to tell every single eligible receiver what their job.
is and shout out protections and very often need to change on the fly which is why when a team is at home that it very often says on the scoreboard quiet please offense at work and when they're on the and when a team's at home and they're on defense they put the little decibel meter thing up and people are supposed to get crazy like it's a ridiculous complaint I also am really curious to Monzae I don't
know if you saw it.
Max Harrison,
who was their first round
pick two years
ago.
I want to make sure I have this right.
Maxwell Harrison was
the, yeah, their first round
pick in the 2025 draft.
It's third and ten.
There's a minute left.
The Pats do a dump off to Hunter Henry.
If the bills have
timeouts, if the bills get a stop,
they're going to get the ball back down three with around 50 seconds left,
like very alive.
Maxwell Hirsten,
I simply does not attempt to make the tackle.
We're not allowed to, like, show NFL footage on this,
so I can't, this is something you should see.
I showed it to coach Manjini.
I thought he was going to pass out.
He was so mad.
And then Harrison after the game skipped media.
It was a really, I just wonder how much friction there is in those bills defensive meetings.
And now they have the Rams and they'll be on the road.
A Rams team that Stafford has looked not good this year and a Rams team that is very fortunate not to be one and three.
We'll talk more about that game in Friday show.
But whomever loses that game is,
different type of panic.
The Rams lose and it's like, are we not that good?
And the bills lose and it's like, oh, okay, wow,
familiar feeling.
Everyone's loving us for the best team in the league, the first couple weeks.
Then we have an October swoon that puts us behind the eight ball for the one seed.
Then we get hot in December.
We're the two seed.
We kick somebody's ass in the wild.
card round and then we're back where we've been.
So the like for real.
And so huge, huge Monday night football game.
I lean Rams because while Stafford hasn't played great,
I think he'll be able to exploit the bills.
Um, secondary.
Yeah, and poop.
Yeah, puka getting healthier.
And so and the Rams did get a jolt of energy by stealing that game against
Philly.
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