The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - Lakers-Mavericks Reaction: Luka Doncic DOMINANT return, LeBron & LA nearing 3 seed

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Nick Wright breaks down Luka Doncic’s emotional return to Dallas and the Los Angeles Lakers statement win vs the Mavericks. Can anyone stop Luka, LeBron James, and the Lakers in a playoff series? Next, Nick reacts to Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors' "terrible loss" to the San Antonio Spurs and explains how it will impact their playoff seeding. Then, Nick weighs in on the Denver Nuggets cleaning house and what it means for Nikola Jokic’s future. Later, Nick makes his final predictions for the NBA playoff push. Finally, as always, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. 0:00 - Intro/Missed the Cut4:02 – Luka’s revenge in Dallas28:17 – Western Conference playoff possibilities44:22 – Nuggets SHOCKING HC & GM firings51:40 – Nick’s NBA player picks53:24 – Reaction to Ja Morant’s grenade celebration1:08:15 – Nick and Damonza answer listener questions  #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's right with NickRite episode 318. What a sports week, man. What a night last night. you know it's a big game with real emotions attached. If you're watching the game, you didn't find out until after the game was over with the postgame hugs. Wait, Patrick Mahomes was courtside the entire time, and they didn't show them once because they had to show the crowd. And they had to show Luca. And they had to show the Lakers.

And they celebrating Luke. and they had to show Nico Harrison with his Mamba mentality, hiding in the tunnel surrounded by security in his own home stadium. They had to show Mark Cuban. What a night. And then it got even crazier after that.

Oh my, Warriors lose to Devin Castle. Draymond's defensive player of the year push takes a big hit if people are watching. Play in picture messed up. Playoff picture weird. All that. plus our NFC over unders plus in what missed the cut de manse welcome in and i don't know if you are even that aware do you know i'm aware what starts today i'm aware yeah what what starts today

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Oh boy. Right on the dog. We have found ourselves boxed in a bit. However, we will deal with that when we get to that. In the meantime, I'll tell you right now, the best app in sports, the Masters app, open, loaded on the phone, watching holes four, five, and six. Keep an updated. One of my favorites, just an unbelievable weekend that got started on a Wednesday night

with some unbelievable basketball. The other thing we missed the cut. Aaron Rogers did not make his big announcement at Pat McAfee's thing. Shador Sanders is visiting Pittsburgh. And LeBron's getting a Barbie. I don't totally get it. He seems excited about it. Seems dope.

Whatever. Now, please like, rate, subscribe review. Watch us live on YouTube. Listen to the podcast feed. This is what you should do. Right now, if you're listening to this on audio, make sure you unsubscribe to the low post, because that's gone. subscribe to Zach's new pod, the Zach Lowe show.

I don't think he got to carry over his subscribers. So subscribe to Zach Lowe's new show. That's a different network. That's different company. But it's so great to have Zach Lowe back for the playoff push. And while you're doing that, go ahead and subscribe to this show, even if you watch it on YouTube. Now, DeMonze, let's get to last night. Yeah, a very emotional game last night.

It was a Lucas first time returning. to Dallas since being traded originally. The fans are super hyped to see him. It seems like a lot of fans are wearing the thank you for everything in Slovenian shirts. They're cheering for him. I basically have to every bucket. They still got the love for

Luca and then he torched them score of 45 points. What did you think of this whole game, this whole situation? I was amazed by what Luca did. And one of my

go-to beliefs in sports is a very simple phrase, but it explains a lot. And that is legendary players do legendary things. And Luca, watching what I thought was almost a too well-produced pre-game video. I thought that was almost too well done because it really hit home if it hadn't already how outrageous the trade was and how blindsided Luca was by it and how great he was. I was wondering how they would approach it, how they would approach this video. Would they? include the step back three over Rudy Gobert and the conference finals to give them a stranglehold on making their first NBA finals since Dirk was there since their championship in 11 and the answer

was yeah we're going to do a real tribute to Luca as if this franchise didn't spend the last six weeks calling him an out of shape alcoholic that we couldn't trust with 350 million dollars they did and it really affected Luca he's crying he and so again up for those of us i'm sure there's some people listening or watching that cry all the time and there's some people listening or watching who never cry i think most of us are probably in you know the middle part of that bell curve where we're not never ever cryers but we are incredibly rare criers. Think back to the last time

something affected you so much that you were brought to tears in public and then think would you have been at your best professionally 90 seconds later? I wouldn't have been, he was. He lit them on fire from start to finish.

while dealing with the unbelievable and indescribable emotion that honestly, almost no athlete in modern sports history has had to deal with quite that. A guy that good, that young, in that sport who didn't want to be traded, who thought I'm going to be here forever. who gets the rug pulled out from under him in the middle of the night and then has to deal with learning secondhand that oh evidently a lot of these people that I worked for didn't believe in me didn't like me didn't trust me

are totally fine with trashing me anonymously or on the record dealing with all of that, and then he scores 45, is the best player on the court. 31 in the first half, channels it all into his individual greatness. That is as legendary as you will ever see. And I saw the stat, and it's a great one, that Luca becomes the first player. You'll like this, DeMonse. the first player in more than 50 years to score 45 plus points for a team and then 45 plus points against that team in the same season.

And I'll tell you who the guy was who did it before. But think about what the needle you have to thread for that to happen. You have to be good enough to where you have multiple 45 point games. You also have to be traded during the year. The last guy that did that, the only guy to do that, was Wilt. But Wilt was a bit of a nomads too strong, but he moved around. He also was similarly to Luka, I think, unfairly maligned or not fully appreciated for how great he truly was.

But Wilt didn't get traded against his will. Wilt didn't get blindsided by him. And for Luca to be able to do that, and for the Lakers to embrace him the way they have, LeBron is, you know, cheering on the crowd when they're chanting Luca Luca, Luca. The embrace with his teammates right after the introductions. Everybody kind of taking a step back and saying, this is Luca's moment. If you're a vibes reader, the Lakers vibes are absolutely off the charts right now.

And you now can tick, tick, tick your way. through the Western Conference potential playoff teams, and you are going to find that nobody has an answer to this question. What defense can deal with that dude? And the answer is none of them. The Thunder with their 10 awesome wing defenders, nope. the Mavs with all of their sinners healthy in that size, nope. Nobody, when he is dialed, the only player in the league who has a similar offensive impact is Nikola Yokic.

And Yokic's second best player is dealing with a hamstring and we don't know if he's going to come back. And Luke's second best player is LeBron freaking James. And so I said it last night. I will say it again. The Celtics can beat the Lakers. I don't know that they will. They can. I don't think anyone else can beat this team as presently constituted

four times in seven games. because Luca going 45, 8, and 6 is not like, oh man, when's he going to do that again? Probably three or four times in the playoffs. He already, and I'm going to risk messing up the internet here, and I apologize, but I'm going to look this up on the fly

because this is one of my favorite stats, which is Luca, who's, again, has not played seven full seasons. Find players. I have to find the fine totals from all games. Most games and combined seasons. There it is. Career 40 point playoff games.

NBA history. And the top of the list is what you would expect. But what's going to shock you is where Luca all. already is on it. So, top of the list, Jordan, LeBron,

Jerry West, those are the only people with even 20 of them, okay? Next highest is Elgin, Baylor, and Kevin Durant with 14. So again,

14 is fourth most in NBA history. Wilt had 13. Kobe had 13. Shaq had 12. Kareem, who played for 20-plus years, and was the all-time winning score had nine.

Luca's got eight. Luca has more career 40-point playoff games already than. He is the same number as Steph. He has more than Dirk. He has more than Bird. He has more than Barkley. He is more than Kauai. He is more than Joker.

He is more than Magic. The only players in league history with more than him are Kareem. Iverson, Harden, Dream, Shaq, Kobe, Will, Durant, Elgin, West, Braun, Jordan. That's it. So Luca dropping 40 on your head like he did last night, that's going to happen a few times in the playoffs. LeBron, thanks to Luca being there, being able to do exactly what he did last night, which is, I'm going to go at about half. speed for three quarters. And then I'm going to be the best player on the damn planet in the fourth quarter on both

ends of the court. That's going to be available to the Lakers. And what's going to determine do the Lakers look like the best team in the league or do they look like a team that is slightly vulnerable is going to be, do Doreen, do Doreen Jimmy Smith, Gabe Vincent, Rui Hachamora, hit the wide open

spoon-fed threes that Luke is going to deliver to them. Because that's what they're going to live on. So the Lakers are the most dangerous team in the NBA because of that guy. And I think DeMonse might think I'm overstating this a bit.

And so I'm open to the discussion on it before we get to the Anthony Davis side of it. But go ahead. Well, yeah, I mean, I think the Celtics are the most dangerous team in the league. And then the Lakers fall like shortly after that. I mean, we just obviously have the death and we definitely have the defenders to deal with Luca Donchage. I mean, obviously, you're not going to hold Luke at a 2015, 15, whatever. But, you know. So here is the thing.

about that. So, listen, the Celtics are unbelievable, unbelievable. And the argument is a pretty clean one, which is the Celtics played Luca in the finals last year and they won. My counterpoint to that would be a relatively simple one. Luca in those finals was 29, 9, and 6, despite in those finals not being able to hit threes.

24% from 3 after 43% the previous line, or the previous round. The number that to me is the most noteworthy on that Luca stat line is not the 29 points, but it's the only five and a half assists a game. And that was a symptom of not, not shooters. Well, he had the shooters.

They just didn't hit shots. And so what happened in those finals is Kyrie, eight of 29 from three, PJ Washington, six of 22 from three. Derek Jones, Jr., again, you can't really rely on him big time for, three of 12 from three. The team as a whole, 31% from three.

So I don't know that we saw the Celtics cut Lucas water off. What they did was, and with their great defenders, make the role players really struggle. But Kyrie in those finals was 19, 3 and 5. 5 and as I mentioned 27% from 3 LeBron ain't doing that if you guys match up and so again I am not acting like the

Lakers deserve to be some big favorite I am not acting like the Celtics are not a deserving champion what I am saying is Luca gave you a little glimpse last night of what playoff Luca looks like and that alongside

what appears to be for one of the only times in his Lakers tenure, fingers crossed, two games left, a LeBron James that is going to be rested and healthy going into the playoffs? Look out now. LeBron was healthy going into the 2020 playoffs. They won the title. LeBron was healthy going into the 23 playoffs. They made it in the conference finals.

All right. We're saying he's healthy now. We'll hear nothing about it growing later. know, things he... Well, I mean, if he... Again, if he... Right, no, he is healthy now. Now, guys can get hurt, obviously.

But I'm... But no, you're right that if he doesn't suffer an injury, and then, you know what I mean, plays poorly, you can't put it on injury, but that's... The thing is this. It simply doesn't happen. So, like, we have 20 years of evidence

that healthy LeBron doesn't play poorly in the playoffs. All right, let's go to the other side. of this game for a moment. Yeah, so on the other side of it, Anthony Davis was playing his ex-team as well. And that doesn't really seem to be making noise. Well, so here's why. I think because it wasn't in L.A. I think because nobody felt like, I don't think anybody felt like the Lakers betrayed A.D.

Because it's just a trade you have to make. I also think this. Last night was a great example of why AD is such a frustrating, great player. And last night was also a good example of the gap between all-time great and legend. Because Anthony Davis, in that game, with, the Lakers not having a real center and him fully healthy, you would have liked to see him be like, listen, one way or another, I'm getting my 30 or at least 25 and putting my imprint on the game. Instead, listen, he was good defensively, and he had 13 points.

and it's why AD is again, as great as he is, a frustrating guy at times because he doesn't seem to always have that extra gear that you would want and the right... He is not a guy that you can just say, oh, the moment calls for it, therefore he's going to be brilliant, at least not on the offensive end.

Now defensively, everybody still brings up the Lakers free throw edge over the last few years and all of these things. That's an Anthony Davis stat. Not because he's drawing so many fouls, but because he is and has been and it's criminal. This guy's going to go his whole career without winning a defensive player of the year. but he has been the best rim protector in the league for a half decade plus now and he can protect the rim without fouling, which is what led to those free throw discrepancies. And he was able to do a lot of that last night. But 13 points in that moment is just a bummer. All right, but one other thing.

Let's do one other thing on Luca. Luca's ejection on Tuesday. What are your thoughts? How do you feel about that? What are your thoughts on it? My thoughts on it are, I do think that I watched your show a little bit yesterday and something resonated with me. I do think that Luca Donchich is, he needs to be available throughout games,

and I think that he should stop taking himself out with the whole whining and complaining about the call. I am not on the ref side in that instance, but I would like to see Luca stop yelling at the refs and just get back on defense. it's occasionally. It's like, uh, one man.

Okay, that's a fair critique. It's also never going to happen. Uh, and so it's just like, it's just, he has to play aggrieved. It also

was such an outrageous ejection and so easily fixable when you realized what had happened. that I, Bruin Wilds got mad at me, but I said that I don't think that J.T. or the ref who did it should be roughing playoff games,

if that's the type of ref he is. I then read this morning, J.T.R. in his 13 year career has refed a grand total of one playoff game. So it looks like the league maybe already recognized that. But it was, say it again. He made it personal. He made it personal from the very beginning.

When you tell Jared Vander, both texts he gave Luca were totally unreasonable. One, Luca's running up court arguing not on his behalf, but on Vanderbilt's behalf, because Vanderbilt got hit in the face. He's not in the ref's face. He's 15 feet from him, gives him a tech, then tells Vanderbilt, I'll talk to anyone but Luca. And the next one, here's why I found it so outrageous. It was not a reasonable misunderstanding because Luca didn't get, there was no potential foul on the play. It's Luca had made the shot.

Luke, so the context of it is really important. Luca had just come in from off the bench. So it's not like he and the ref had been going back and forth, you know, over the last few minutes. He had just come back in the game. There was no contact whatsoever on the shot. So it wasn't one of those, I made the shot, but I should have gotten an and one, bleep you for not giving it to me, which you do see all the time.

Or maybe it was like a FU I hit the shot. Like that's what the ref perceived it as. Like he's talking, he's talking trash after he hits the shot, like FU ref basically. Yeah. You better be damned certain. Who he's. talking to and what he's saying if it's the fourth quarter of a huge game and a guy already

has one technical and part of being in very very kind of simple terms mixed metaphors a bit being an official we give you a ton of power and we try trust that even if you have pulled me over a dozen times before, and each time I've said, F you, hate you, bleep you, that when you walk to my car on the 13th time, you are going to act with the professionalism and demeanor of someone who's first meeting me. And you might be like, that's unreasonable. That's the job. That is the job.

And you, when you have a disproportionate power over another person, because you are the enforcer of the rules, you have an obligate. to leave your baggage court side. And not everybody can do it. And so if you are going to go ahead. I was also thinking about like how after Drayvon gets a technical one and how much leeway he gets. It's the opposite. Yeah.

Like it takes a lot for him to get that second technical. It was like a, just like a meeting. No. And so it was, but whatever. I mean, the Lakers got the, the worst case scenario would have been. and I actually think for the thunder, here's the part of that ejection that sucks for the thunder.

The thunder don't feel great about that win now. The, the, and the thunder could have won that game. I don't know, I don't think they were going to because you were just about to get rested Luca down the stretch, but maybe, but now the thunder are like, man, they beat us in our building bad.

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So are we potentially looking at Lakers and Golden State playing in the first round? So I know this, the standings make it seem like that because of last night is less likely. in reality, because of last night, it's more likely. I'll explain that in a moment. But first, let me talk about that Warriors game. That's a terrible loss. And it had a lot of the warning signs of bad Warriors losses from the past,

most notably horrific turnovers down the stretch. So if you weren't watching that game, I want to just give you the play by, pardon me, the play by play of the last few minutes. Because the, let me actually back up a little bit more. The Warriors were up big, up double digits early. The Spurs then have a monster second quarter to take a lead going into halftime. But that doesn't matter because the Warriors beat the Spurs in the third quarter, 37 to 21, and they go into the final period up a dozen.

So it's a game you've got to have. You're up a dozen on a Spurs team that, you know, does not necessarily want to win. and despite that, they find themselves in a dog fight, tie game after a castle three with five minutes remaining. And then this is where you get to, in my opinion, the concern points for the Warriors. Okay? So I'm pulling up the play-by-play here once we get to.

All right. Two and a half minutes left. Spurs turn the ball over, Warriors up one. Draymond Green, bad pass turnover. They then exchange buckets. Minute left. Draymond Green, bad pass turnover. 30 seconds left.

Steph Curry, bad pass turnover. Sandwiched in the middle of that after a really good Dremont green defensive play in transition. Kelton Johnson goes right at Draymond gets a layup. Kelton Johnson then goes right at Draymond and gets another layup. For a guy who's doing a full-blown media blitz about how he's defensive player of the year, that was a rough sequence. And all of a sudden, they're down two.

And then the spurs screw up. The spurs are up too. with five seconds left and Harrison Barnes panics and basically hugs Dremont. They've gotten the ball out of Steph's hands. He fouls Dremont as if he thought they had a foul to give. They didn't. You're up to five seconds left. Dremont has the ball.

You foul him. He makes both. Credit to him for that. I thought he was going to miss one. He makes both. And now you're staring at overtime. And then Harrison Barnes, former warrior champion

bangs home the three. And all of a sudden, the Warriors now, and now we can show the Western Conference standings, here's where we're at. The Lakers are 49 and 31 with games against Houston and Portland remaining. Win one, and they lock in the three-seat. So the Lakers are going to be the three-seat.

Maybe they beat Houston. If they don't beat Houston, beat Portland in game 82 that Portland doesn't want. So they're locked. We now have very tricky setups. Denver and the Clippers both 48 and 32. Memphis has three games left. They're 47 and 32. The Warriors 47 and 33 and Minnesota 46 and 33. So here's what the nut nut nut of this really is. On the warrior's side of things, let's assume they're beating Portland. That gets them to 48 wins. If they beat the Clippers, I would then expect the Warriors to end up the six-seed

and playing the Lakers in round one. The schedules for the following teams are for the teams are as follows. Denver has Memphis and then Houston. The Clippers have Sacramento and then the Warriors. Memphis has Minnesota, then Denver, then Dallas. Golden State, Portland, and the Clippers. And Minnesota at Memphis and then Brooklyn and Utah. So Minnesota right now is the eight,

but they have two auto wins to end of the year. So if Minnesota wins tonight, at Memphis, they are going to finish 49 and 33. It is very, very difficult to handicap exactly what's going to happen. What you can handicap is this. Denver has one super meaningful game left against Memphis. The game at Houston, I just wonder if Houston's going to be sitting guys. My guess is they will.

the Clippers have one super meaningful game left at the Warriors. Memphis has two super meaningful games left, home from Minnesota at Denver, and then obviously the game that will likely determine, not likely, definitively will determine a huge amount in the Western Conference, is Clippers Warriors Game 82 3 30 Sunday afternoon probably on ABC

The loser of that game Probably probably goes to the play in The winner of that game Is going to be either the I think Well not it is going to be the four the five or the six here is the part that might surprise the audience.

If I'm the Lakers, I would rather play right now Golden State than play the Clippers. I think that the Clippers with Kauai having a week off between the playoffs because of the play-in and then playing so well right now and Zubots being a real force

when the Lakers don't have a center, I think that is a tougher matchup than a Golden State team that reminded you last night. Yeah, we can beat anybody, but we can lose to anybody in big spots. And so I, it's almost impossible to handicap how it's going to fall exactly. I know that Minnesota right now is sick.

Because Minnesota, if they didn't blow that 26-point lead to the bucks night before last, they're sitting there at 47 and 32 with games against Brooklyn and Utah remaining, and they are in great shape to get up to the 4-5 line. I'll tell you something else. The Warriors being in the play-in is devastating for them. You can be like, oh, well, you know, as long as you win your play-in game, you get Houston. Houston fully rested.

That defense is not, go ahead, Demonset. Oh, it's a young and energetic. Yes. Going to stay coming off of that. It's tragic. Yeah, that's not going to be fun. You lose your play-in game. and all of a sudden you find you find yourself in a one and done you'd win it i would imagine

but now you're going to oklahoma city and this is also where i remind you the warriors history in the play in is not great the the warriors in 2021 lost two play-in games and missed the playoffs. And the Warriors last year, again, in things that we just memory hole, we just vacillate between the Warriors are, you know, Steph is in the goat conversation and disregarding the fact that last year, the Warriors in the play-in, Lost to Sacramento and their season was just over.

Lost to the Kings and a one and done season over. Good night, good luck. So the Warriors historically have played three playing games. LeBron hit the three-rim three over Steph to beat them in their first. The young upstart grizzlies, back when the grizzlies were fun, beat him in the second one, in Golden State to knock him out of the playoffs and last year

the Sacramento Kings beat them to knock him out of the playoffs and so again like since Durant left the Warriors seasons have gone missed the playoffs

missed the playoffs, won the damn title lost in Round two to LeBron missed the playoffs, and now this year, if you froze the standings right now, they're in the play in again. And by the way, there is no team in the league that wishes you could freeze the standings right now like the Lakers, where they get Memphis in round one, which is the dream. Denver and the Clippers and the Thunder are all on the other side of the bracket

and the Warriors have to play play in games. That is the dream bracket. It's not going to stay like this though because too many of these teams play each other. But that is the standings as we sit here today. By the way, for people watching live, a couple of times. things one is we appreciate you uh second is please like rate subscribe review do all those things it really does help us and it you know leads to us you know being doing more of the kind of surprise shows or instant reaction shows they asked me yesterday paul texts me he's like hey you want

to do a snap reaction right after the game quick i was like you know i would But tonight was a bottle of wine night while I'm watching the NBA. And I just don't. I just don't think it's a good idea. But also people watching live, you can throw questions in the chat. And we'll get to them, get to them later. So there was, gosh, darn it. Oh, there was something.

Oh, Edwin. Edwin in the chat says, don't sleep on playoff Jimmy. So again, this is where the producers are going to get mad at me because this is where I do open up a bunch of. basketball reference pages and it might mess up my internet a touch. Here is my only pushback. Anybody that's watched the TV show over the last few years has known no one has prayed at the altar of playoff Jimmy more than me.

That I've said he's a different guy. When they made the finals against the Nuggets, I did a whole thing about how if he wins the title, His resume versus James Hardin's resume is one of the more fun NBA Roershark tests of all time, all of it. But I do think there is reasonable reason for concern that the playoff Jimmy we are used to might not be around this year. So here's what I mean. In 2022, Jimmy Butler was. 21 6 and 6 in the regular season and then bumped that in the playoffs to 27 7 and 5 so he was a 22 point of game

guy who bumped it up to 27 in the playoffs the next year in the regular season he was 23 a game and all NBA second teamer and then in the playoffs he bumped it to 27 a game here's the point I'm making historically playoff Jimmy means bump my scoring average by about four points this year he's a 17 point a game guy and he's with the Warriors 46% from the field and 28% from three so even if you get the playoff Jimmy bump, he does not appear to be

quite the player he was when he would, what Jimmy would do is go from being a B plus guy to an A guy. What if now that means he goes from a B, B, B minus guy to a B plus guy?

That's a concern. So that's my only pushback on that. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news.

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Go ahead. So right after our show on Tuesday, Denver, they fired their head coach Michael Malone in Calvin Booth. which is just really weird. They're in the playoffs. It's just a funny time. And then last night they got the win. They took care of business against the Kings. And Yolkich had this to say post-game.

People said we were vulnerable, but I think the beast is always the strongest of the most dangerous when they are vulnerable. So maybe Josh Kronk woke up the beast. Josh Kronki, the owner of the team. But yeah. No, that's what's going on in Denver right now. So listen.

I don't think it's a good sign when you fire your coach. Now, I, it also, there's other reporting, shocker, that the GM and some players were frustrated, that Michael Malone kept playing Russell Westbrook in big spots. Like, man, tough spot, but I've seen that movie before. because they won last night, people I think are trying to convince themselves, oh, well, maybe this was what the team needed. I don't buy that at all.

I'm not saying this was a disaster. I'm not saying it's crazy to fire Michael Malone. What I am saying is that they have, and last night Daniel points out, is the first game since December 5th that Westbrook played. fewer than 20 minutes. Got it.

But what the Nuggets need, obviously, is Jamal Murray to come back from his injury, but what the Nuggets also need that Jamal Murray coming back from his injury is not going to have an impact on, is to have a passable defense. And they don't. So as great as Joe,

I watched that game last night because I had a nice, little Lakers, Thunder, Clippers, Kings, five and a half to one parlay. And the Lakers won, the is all money line. The Clippers won against the Rockets backups. The Thunder won despite playing their own backups because the sons have quit. And then I was like, all right, we'll see how the Nuggets react to the firing.

And the Nuggets did react well to the firing. but they still just can't guard anybody. And so I don't, I don't think, I think they're scary because they've the best player in the world. I don't think they're dangerous when it comes to a deep playoff run. As far as DeMonsei, what it means for Joker, they don't have a ton of flexibility. They can try to trade for Duran.

I think the only way that would happen would be if Durant demanded to go there because they're not going to have the best package. They could go ahead. Yeah, I don't know what Jamal Murray's like contract situation is. Shouldn't they just try and shop him? Get some assets for Jamal Murray if that's possible. I don't know if his... I mean, the contract situation is a max deal that has not gone into effect yet.

Right. And I think that they probably feel like the Yokic, Murray combo they want to keep together. It's Michael Porter Jr. That they would be trained. That's fair. And listen, I am pretty confident that if they wanted to, they could get Paul George. But that contract seems to be underwater.

Yeah, well, but they just don't have a ton of flexibility. Yeah. Like Daniels, our resident Nuggets fan, hates the idea of Paul George. I would call New Orleans over the summer about Zion. Yeah. I still, you're, it feels to me, we have these two multi-time MVP, one-time champion, one-playoff appearance, generational, international superstar, top 20 all-time guys in Janice and Yokic. and they've now both dealt with the coach firings. The nuggets are yet to make the panic trade.

But you do it because you don't want the guy to ask out. And Yokic doesn't seem like he would ask out, but it would be reasonable. Well, from the... Go ahead. Well, he said on the firing, he knew a little bit before everybody. and he told me we made a decision so it was not a discussion. It was a decision and they told me why.

So I listened and I accepted it. So it's not like them firing Michael Malone would have determined Yon. Like it didn't seem like he was tired of Michael Malone. Well, so listen, I don't, I think that Yokic probably, if he desperately wanted them to keep Malone, they kept him for the rest of the year. But I don't blame, listen, he was there for 10 years. if they thought the message was stale or whatever, it's fine. I have no issue with that piece of it.

My point is whether or not Yokic feels like this is the best place for, they're going to give me the best chance to win a championship and whether or not the Kronkies, thriftiness and not keeping KCP costs us a chance at winning this championship. I mean, Geth asks in the chat, do you think the Nuggets fired Malone because they were worried they might go on a run, which would make firing him harder later. Listen, the owner said something along lines of.

Sometimes, you know, there's real issues and wins cover up those issues. I think that's silly. Like, what are we saying here? That the Nuggets were, like, worried they were going to win the championship and therefore not be able to fire the coach. If they win the championship, you don't want to fire the coach. They're saying they were worried that they were going to win a couple rounds in the playoffs and then not be able to fire the coach sure you can't you're the damn four seed and fired him

three days for the play three games for the playoffs like so i i don't really buy that rationale i do think that this is a very interesting summer for joker uh and just is what it is it's a really interesting summer for joker uh before we get to the jaw stuff and i we might we might do the nfc stuff next week. I know that we said we were going to do it today, but we might have to do the NFC stuff next week, which kind of might make more sense because next week during the play-ins, there's not going to be as much action to discuss. But speaking of action, who's scoring big in the NBA this season? You are with all the new ways to get in on the action at Draft King's Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NBA. From Monster Slams, Dish in the Rock to Clean in the Glass,

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So obviously, John Moran's had the problems with the gun celebrations in the league. Find him. I think it was like $75,000 or something like that. So he debuted a new celebration, and it's a grenade toss into the crowd. How do we feel about that? Do we think the league should deal with that? How do you feel about it? I hate feeling the way that I feel about it, honestly.

But what do you mean? I just don't like, exactly. Yeah, I don't. like being a killer of fun and all that stuff but it's just job of rent specifically and his history and it's like and like they're fighting him he's like

all right so now I'll throw a grin at it's like dude it's like do why are you being such a child dude it's like come on dude it's like all right maybe I can get away with this like all right so so we feel almost the exact same way I think it is a sign of your own maturity

that you are not playing the false equivalence game other people are doing hey here's a compilation of folks doing gun celebrations why is it different for jaw i don't know man let's let's pretend this happened okay because you know guys like

doing the ice in the vein this thing well that is an illusion for being honest to shooting heroin okay i don't know if everybody knows that but like he tap the vein okay

So let's say you have a bunch of players that do that. But then old bird man, Chris Anderson, people remember him. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. He got kicked out of the league for a year because he was doing heroin. He was doing hard drugs. I think it was heroin. I don't know.

He had the heroin tats. But regardless, if he, you gave me a funny look like what's heroin tats. The weird thing, there's like a I knew Bourbonne was coming up as soon as this whole thing I knew Berbett was coming out. I didn't even know you knew who he was. He was before your era.

Yeah, I mean, I probably, I knew he played for the nuggets. I feel like I've seen him with the nuggets. I mean, I might not have to be too conscious, but he played with the heat as well with LeBron. Yeah. But okay, regardless. So if the only guy in the league who's been suspended for hardcore,

drugs, comes out and starts doing this celebration all the time. And the league is like, a man, chill. So then he comes out and does a new one where he ties off the vein and does like a fake injection. Be like, oh, what's the problem? I'm getting vaccinated. What guys, like so not everything is the same for everyone. And you made your bed with that, man. Right.

So here's, so this is where, so I think the reason de Manzay said, I hate feeling the way I feel about this is because, objectively, the video of Jha doing this is hilarious. We can all acknowledge that Jha, that the fact of the matter, that the timeline being this Jod does the gun celebration the league says don't do that

he then does it three more times so the league finds him he then hears Gilbert Arinas and say he should pretend to throw a grenade Gilbert Arenas, who, by the way, once brought a gun into a locker room, got in trouble, but not huge trouble.

And when he came back from his suspension, in the intros, did the Yosemite Sam guns in the air, and that is what got him in huge trouble. that guy says pretend to throw a grenade and he does it that's the timeline but here's the more important timeline and by the way Birdman did test positive for drug use but we don't know which drugs it was

I guess in my head I just always thought it was heroin but it could have been anything don't sue us Birdman I also love him so here is the timeline for John Morant he is the only NBA player who has gotten in trouble for showing up on Instagram live in a club with a gun. He is the only NBA player who has gotten in trouble in the NBA for showing up on a different

Instagram live in a car with what appeared to be a gun. He is the only NBA player who in the last few years has had to go to court. Because a high schooler who lives on his block says we got into a fight and he came out of his house with a gun He is the only NBA player who got into it with another team and then after the game got in a fringe car and that team says from that car pointed at our bus was a red laser site, the likes of which are typically attached to a gun. So, yes, he might be the only NBA player that Adam Silver says, let's tamp down on the munitions-related celebrations. even if we all think it would be kind of hilarious in the moment

if in tonight's game against Minnesota, Jah hits a three, and then all of a sudden Desmond Bain is like on a knee holding what looks to be an artillery shell and he's loading it. We all like doing it. If all of a sudden he like roadrunner in coyote Dunks on somebody and then runs the other end of the court And does the old TNT

Kaboom Yes, I get it But here's the other piece of it And this is why I was again Sorry to be corny and sorry to be the old man But proud of Demonsay as a father And DeMontze's Jaws age You're a few months older than him

um proud of your answer because everyone just knows in their gut this shit could end really badly and it's not because we think John Morant is all of a sudden going to actually have a grenade

we don't think that but we do know that if you are acting a fool get called out for acting a fool get consequenced for acting a fool and then increase the acting of fullness

that very often you end up fucking up that's what it is and it would appear to me that jaw every once in a while and

anybody that used to go or you know if you're in your if you still go out to clubs and I was I was actually just in a club in Memphis the night after the Lakers game so I'm 40 years old I was the old guy in the club

what a bummer but uh the but think back to your heyday, college days, post-college 20s. You can always tell if a guy in there is acting a certain way to impress the women there, or if he is acting a certain way to impress his buddies. And those are two very different types of guys. And those are two very different types of guys. And those are two very different risk profiles the guy that actually wants to impress women or pick up a girl one of the safest guys to be around it's like nah like he's gonna you know he's gonna tamp

down on situations he's gonna you know all that he's that's why he's out he's out there trying to a girl the guy who said he went out to go pick up a girl but is actually going out to try to be the biggest baller in the room or to try to impress his buddies that guy you got to be careful about because that guy will escalate situations and that guy will the ego and the ego and And the testosterone and all is dangerous. And I, by the way, for a lot of us, probably both people on this show right now, at various points, we've been both of those guys. Depending on like, for real.

Like they're the, I'm not trying to speak for you, but I, but I mean, I think I can. At both points, we have been the, man, I'm trying to. have a good time i'm trying to meet somebody and we've been the man i'm uh you know excuse me excuse me excuse me except on my shoe i and uh and so i the reason i tell that anecdote is it feels to me like Jaws doing this stuff to impress his buddies. They ain't going to tell me what to do. I'm going to show... And that...

That is... You're in the NBA, man. Say it again. You're in the NBA. You're in the NBA. That's the thing. Guess what, man. Your buddies are impressed.

You pay for everything. You go everywhere you want. You have access to everything you want to access to you have your own shoe and your own commercials and for all intents and purposes your own city and so it does worry me I'm not I'm not trying to be a scold it does actually worry me and so that's that's why as objectively now speaking of celebrations that I wish had happened I was talking with wild about this yesterday, how great would it have been if after Luca's first three, he had done like,

cracked a beer and then chugged it? Yeah. And like after his second three, like pantomimed hitting a hookah, like lighting it. Hell yeah. Like a whole thing. Whereas if Lucas entire celebrations were related to, you guys called me a fat alcoholic. And he was just throughout the night, like pretending to shotgun beers. Did a keg stay?

Like Austin Reeves come over. They help him do a fake keg stand. He just leans into the whole thing. Now, Lucas too mature for that, I guess. But that would have been the dream for Luke to be like, you guys say I'm an alcoholic. And also, the other thing that definitely should have happened is at that press conference. he should have been drinking the exact type of beer that Michael Finley took out of his hand after the conference finals last year.

I wish he would have leaned into that more. Now the Gatorade ad, you saw the Gatorade ad? Gatorade ad. This is a little 15 second Gatorade commercial. Luke is sitting there, dribbling the basketball, and then gets up and walks away. But the way they have positioned, the Gatorade towel around his shoulders,

it looks like it spells out traitor. And it's awesome. It's awesome. But Luca took the high road. He did. He did. I also think he's like still really, really hurt about it.

I don't think he's really hurt. Did you hear him after the game when he said, when he said, I get to sleep in my own bed? Yeah. He's like, I get to sleep in my bed. Like he no he is really hurt and I it's why what he did last night was so impressive. All right.

Let's do a few listener questions. Noah asked Nick, do you think the Lakers would be better right now if Mark Williams, if the Mark Williams trade that went through? I, Jesus. Yes. You okay, buddy? I'm sorry.

Turn to Monzae's mic off for a bit. These guys choking. I, Mark Williams has been awesome since the trade didn't go through. Really what that question is, do I think Mark Williams would add more value to them this season than Dalton Connect? Because that was the player in the trade.

And the answer to that's probably yes. But saving those first round picks for a bigger move might be better for them long term. But we'll see. And we'll also, again, Mark Williams never play. played playoff basketball. Neither's Dalton Connect. They're telling me there was a ton of Orlando Magic talk in the chat, so they wanted me to say something about the magic.

Great job by the Magic last night, beating the backup Celtics, and I say that sincerely. And in what maybe is a playoff preview, except it won't be backup Celtics, here's what I'll tell you. The magic offense is terrible, but the defense is just enough of a, pain in the ass that if you're Boston, you would prefer, prefer Orlando lose their first play in

game so you get Atlanta or the Bulls or the heat in that round one matchup. What else do we? Andrew says, everyone says Luca needs to play mad, but do you think it's not solely anger, but also other emotions he can use his fuel? Maybe. I don't know. you probably have to ask as a psychologist. I think anger does it for him though.

And that's why the ejection made me so mad. And this is, we'll leave it on this. The, if you need to channel your anger and your vitriol at somebody, you, you have, the safest bet in the arena

is find an annoying, famous heckler and do it to him. I channel it at another player I can get in trouble. I channel it another coach I can get in trouble. Channel it at the ref I can get in trouble. Channel it at my teammates blows us off. The absolute nut high of what you should go after is,

oh, this clown who talks about the game within the game and heckled me during the playoffs last year, he and I are going to go back and forth, and he got thrown out for it. All right, Eric has a question for you to Monze. himself. I know. And then he didn't interview.

Before we go, Eric has a question for you. Eric says, I want to ask it. I want to ask you. Celtics are in the finals. It's game seven. Western Conference finals.

Thunder Lakers. I want to be playing the Thunder. You would rather play the Thunder. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I think that's, and by the way, Eric, thank you for that.

I'm going to put wilds to that same question today on the TV show. Speaking of the TV show, I got to go. Great job, everybody. We should, we'll have the regular schedule next week, but also we will have, if the Warriors are in the play-in, we'll probably do a, you know, reaction pod to those games. Other than that, we might do some play-in reaction stuff. I've got an anniversary this weekend.

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