The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What’s Wright - Luka Doncic and JJ Redick LAKERS FEUD? Giannis RETURNS to Bucks & NFL TRADE reaction | Nick Wright

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.   Nick Wright recaps a wild weekend of basketball, starting with Luka Doncic and JJ Redick’s sideline spat with the Los Angeles Lakers, and Giannis Antetokounmpo returning to the Milwaukee Bucks. Then, Nick breaks down the seeding in the Western Conference and how he thinks the standings will shake out. Later, Nick dives into the Lu Dort-Nikola Jokic drama and why it may have a severe impact on the Thunder's chances of repeating. After, Nick reacts to NFL news including a Detroit Lions-Houston Texans trade and his Kansas City Chiefs moving on from a starter. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Have a great day. I heart radio. Welcome in, What Driving NickRite episode 431. This episode of What Driving NickRite is always is presented to you by Boost Mobile. Demonsay, good morning. Good to see you. Good morning, father. A lot to do today, even though this is the slow.

there are a few ebbs in the sports calendar. I consider early March, one of them. I think early March, undeniably, and then late July to early August. Those are the two kind of target ones. Because late March, we get March Madness. Then April, May into early June, we have the NBA playoffs right into NBA free agency.

And then we have another ebb, and then NFL training camp gets going. And in the midst of all the things that I just said, from late March into April, we have NFL free agency in the draft. Right now, this really just this week, because free agency gets going and not too long, it's a bit of an ad. But luckily, we have one, I think, really good NFL story. And it's really a sports media story. It's a little, it's 30% NFL, 70% sports media, and a bunch of good, interesting NBA story. and we will get to all of them in the next 45 minutes to an hour or so.

First, though, things we are not getting to. Straight to voicemail brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Trey Young, supposed to suit up for the Wizards this week. He was ejected from a game. Also, that sometimes the coming off a bench stuff leads to a suspension. So could he be ejected and suspended before ever playing in a game? Vijay Edgecombe kicks a fan in the face accidentally. I'm always surprised there's not more things like that because court side seats are so good and so close.

Feels like they're always kind of flirting with disaster. And Doug Christie does smelling salts. DeMonse, do yourself a favor and spend 15 minutes today during your lunch break at work or whenever. Just doing a not a deep dive, a medium dive. into Doug Christie's playing career. And most notably, and this is not being misogynistic, this is just a retelling of the history, just Google Doug Christie wife.

And it's for someone who is your age and is unfamiliar with the story of one Doug Christie and his wife when he was playing, who went with him on all the road trips and may or may not have even gotten into a bit of a, fight with a player that tried to fight him in the tunnel. It was a very unique. And I think I remember something. Again, maybe I need to do a medium dive on it as well.

But whatever I think of Doug Christie, the first thing I think of is the very public and very protective relationship that he has right. Right or die. Now, with that said, I am, I can I, I have no idea the current. I haven't kept up on that relationship. So I don't know what I don't know what that is But when I saw him do the smelling salts That's what I thought of

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So Janus returned from his five-week hiatus and lost to my Celtics with no Jalen Brown. The bucks are currently three and a half games out of the playing. What is the goal for the bucks at this point? All right. First, I do want to say this. I've been very high on Jalen Brown and his MVP. chances and, you know, giving him a lot of respect. I'm now going to say something totally unfair.

His first team all-MBA slash MVP ballot consideration took a bit of a hit last night. Just a tiny one. Not because he missed the game because the guy is basically an Ironman by today's NBA standards, but because he missed the game and it was and it was just like Peyton Pritcher's like no problem. I got this. Hugo Gonzalez. Like, watch me throw up a plus 27 and 35 minutes. Patrick always has that in him though. Like if he was, you can be the guy. I didn't know Hugo Gonzalez had an 11 and 16 in him. Baylor Shireman with all the starters were in double figures. They're 20 of 50 from three and they just annihilate the bucks. And again, I should give a shout out

to the weirdest coach in the NBA, Joe Missoula, because he's cooking. The guy's cooking. And so we'll get to more of the Celtics piece in a moment. I do think the end of this season will have at least some impact on whether or not Yonis stays. So I think we can all agree that. The bucks have no, even if they were to make the play-in, have no shot of doing any damage in the playoffs.

And making the play-in is going to be hard because they're three and a half back, having lost the last two before Janus got back, and then last night's game. And the team they're chasing, Charlotte, has been flatly an excellent team for the last like six weeks, maybe close to two months. So I think they are actually more likely if they were to get in,

I don't think it would be because they catch Charlotte, who's the 10. It's because they catch Atlanta, who's the 9. And that's going to be hard. They've played 60 games, they've got 22 games left, and they are three losses behind the Hawks who are on a little four-game winning streak of their own. And so the reason I mention even any of that is, Janice, you know, doesn't, I don't think he wants to leave, but I also don't think he wants to stay. I think that he is, he wants to have something that does not exist.

The ability to stay in Milwaukee forever and compete for championships in the remainder of his prime and that that is not a world that exists. However, the fact that he has not yet forced himself out of there means I don't think he is dead set 100% on leaving. And if Milwaukee could fight its way into the play-in, play good basketball the remainder of the season, then maybe he doesn't force the buck's hand. there is a very strong argument to be made, he shouldn't have to force their hand,

that the Milwaukee Bucks leadership should say, the best thing for the franchise is to move on from Janus this summer, to see what, if the Spurs have a disappointing postseason, if the Rockets have a disappointing postseason, if the Thunder have a disappointing postseason, what the Thunder have a disappointing postseason, what,

those teams would give us for a guy who is still unequivocally a top five, almost assuredly a top four, very strong argument for a top three player in the entire world. It seems like neither party here really has the stomach to want to be the one to officially pull the trigger on a breakup. But I do wonder if in the final 23 games of their season, the first of which was last night, they go 9 and 14 and finish the year 35 and 47 and, you know, tied with or right behind the Bulls for 12th in the Eastern Conference, if they don't say, okay, it's been an amazing run. Janice has been there a long time. Janice came into the league in 2013, which remarkably means

this is his 13th year with Milwaukee. 13 years with Milwaukee. That is like context on that. LeBron played 15 with the calves and the heat combined. Both calves stents plus the heat stint. 13 years with a team is an unbelievable run. That's as many years as Michael Jordan played with the Bulls 13 years.

And so there is no, he won a championship. it's been an unbelievable career, but I do think that if the bucks go, what would they have to go probably in their final 22? If they go 12 and 8 and get to 38 and 42, no, that wouldn't be it. Hold on. What am I? Oh, they have 22.

left, not 20 left, sorry. If they go 13 and 9 and get to 39 and 43 and catch Atlanta and make the play in, I wonder if they run it back one more year,

which I think would just be a mistake for all parties involved. Do you think a bad postseason would be, or a bad end of season would be more eye-opening for Janus or the Buck's front office? I think the Bucks front office has basically decided we're only trading him if he tells us to trade him. I don't think that's necessarily the right thing to way to do it, but I think that's what they've decided.

So I guess the answer would be for Yannis. All right, let's talk Celtics on this. So yeah, that Tatum return is looking likely. Looks like it's coming later this week, actually. And he was talking to the doctor and saying he's not coming back to be a role player. How deep are you reading into that? Or what are you seeing from that? So that clip, correct me if I'm wrong, is from very early in his rehab.

It was just released, but it was from very early in his rehab. So I think what Tatum is saying to the doctor is we need, you know, this process. Well, no. So I don't think, I think people are, that's not how I read it. I don't think Jason Tatum is saying the day I come back, I need to be Jason Tatum that everybody knows. I think what Jason Tatum is saying, I need to rehab in a way so that once I'm all the way back, rust is off, I've played, you know, once I am back to whatever the peak version of me is, it's the same as the version from before the injury. Do you understand the distinction there? No, I get it.

So I think he's saying, we need to approach this rehab so that at some point, not immediately, but at some point, it's like Kevin Durant, where you see no difference in the player pre and post Achilles on a long enough time horizon, that we are not, you know, I will, you know, mix metaphors, mass. here. You tour your Achilles. It was a different type of Achilles tear, and you actually didn't have surgery. And one of the things they told you flatly was, if you don't have surgery, you will never regain 100% of the athleticism you had before. You're not a pro athlete. And you know what I mean? You were, you know, you were like, that's fine. I think what Jason, Jason Tatum is saying, we need to approach this rehab so at some point

I am 100% of the guy I was before and go ahead Do you say that he like given where the Celtics are right now and when he is going to be coming back that he is more likely to be a role player than not? I think he will definitively So I think he's coming back in the next 10 days right the next 10 to 14 days

I think he obviously will be a role player for the first month he's back. Yeah. But if he does come back in the next week to 10, you know, week to two weeks. And Simmons said he thinks he's coming back Friday. And Simmons pretty plugged in with the Celtics, obviously. Yeah. I think that gives him enough of a runway to where he can be. by the time the playoffs start, not his, not peak Tatum.

If he comes back in March, I do not think he'll be Peak Tatum until the beginning of next season. But there is a big golf between Peak Tatum and role player. Pete Tatum was first team, all NBA, you know, six, seventh best player in the league. Right? Right. So I think by the playoffs, he could be back. he could be the 25th best player in the league. You know, like that,

and then maybe by midway through the playoffs, approaching that top 15. Maybe that's too optimistic, but do I think that Jason Tatum, you know, do you look at Derek White as a role player? I don't. I look at him as a little bit somewhere between. Like a step above role player?

Step above role, step below star. Yeah. So like, and I guess maybe there's not a name for that. So maybe that is a role player. Like just a high quality starter. So I think it's like superstar, star, high quality starter, role player, bench player, you know, and then on down. That's fair. I think when, I think the day Tatum comes back, he's a.

role player. I think within a few weeks, he will be high quality starter. And I think his goal would be by round two of the playoffs, be a star and get back to superstar next season. And I think that's realistic. Yeah. I think the fact that he had surgery within hours of the injury, that he has been, everything seemingly has been going great. I think that is realistic. And I just, I've tried to dead this before, but I just want to reiterate it here. I think any discussion about Tatum disrupting what the Celtics have going is utter nonsense. Not because he won't, at least temporarily, potentially disrupt what they have going.

I think he will. But I think what they have going is worth nothing for a team that has championship aspirations. What they have going right now is a really good season and an awesome story that has no chance of resulting in a championship. And so you can disrupt that. And it's fine if at the end of the disruption, so Jason Tatea was on the Celtics last year and he's been on the T's also not like a new guy. Oh, yeah. The team is also relatively the same.

It's not like these guys haven't played with him. I mean, that's a, but I would, I would almost, again, I'll mix metaphors here. And this won't really work. but if midway through a NASCAR race, a car is leading and, you know, like appears just by that snapshot of time or near the front that they could win it. Yep. But the people in the, again, mixing metaphors on shaky ground for me, but just stick with me.

The people in the pit crew and the spotter are like, oh, man, our front right tire is wobbly. And it's, at some point in this race, it's going, we're going to lose it. Right. It does not disrupt your ability to win the race by taking your medicine, pitting, falling a little back in the pack and fixing that. because fixing that is a necessity to have any chance of actually completing the race. That's what I would say Tatum coming back is, you know, on the fly. You know what your ceiling is with the broken tire. Right, but analogous to.

You only go so far. Right. What the Celtics are right now is it's not fake, but it is not championship caliber. And so even if the next the first few weeks with Tatum are Rocky, that gives you a chance. to become championship caliber. And so I also think that... Does Jason Tatum get to be Jordan Love this year? What does that mean?

Well, you're just talking about how if Jordan Love this year over this season, he had the team, the complete team, as long as he can just be there and not mess up in a huge way, they should be a Super Bowl team. Michael Parsons obviously got injured and, you know, It got a little derailed, but I saw some similarities there. So I think that's interesting. I'm trying to think if there's another comp that I would have for it.

Because we don't have many examples of a team who all of a sudden is going to drop in this late in the season, a guy who objectively has been and is their best. player with hopes of winning the title. Right. Already there. Yeah. And so it's very fascinating. This is also where Tatum is a bit of a victim of his own rehab. And I've talked about this, so I'll move on after this. If Tatum just had a regular rehab schedule and there was no chance he was coming back this year,

I think this Celtics playoff run would have reminded the world how valuable he is to that team. That this Celtics season, when if he never came back, it ended in round two in the playoffs. Now, I understand last year it also ended in round two in the playoffs, but in previous years, we'd seen the team win the title, make a bunch of conference finals, make an NBA finals. It would, as good as Jalen Brown has been, as good as Missoule has been, as good as the team has been, remind folks that in order to be able to win 16 playoff games, hell, to win 12 playoff games, there's a requisite talent level that I don't think the Celtics without Jason Tatum have. But it doesn't look like we're going to see a playoff run without Jason Tatum,

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we? How do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the time.

podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast point game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball like.

After you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents Soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey.

And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?

Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just a hit it. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would.

Come on. Could you move? I would buy it. Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug app. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic.

You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Let's talk Little Lakers when we get to the Thunder and the Nuggets, DeMaze. Luca turned 27 over the weekend and celebrated that by cooking the Warriors, although him and JJ Reddick got into a little sideline debacle.

J.J. Reddick seemed to be trying to approach him. He walking away. You were already waived the white flag on the Lakers. Where are you at now with him? It seems like Reddick and the best player are getting into it. Well, listen, J.J. Reddick is a little petty. We all know this. And Luca can be annoy his coaches.

We all know this. I thought it was, I didn't notice on the sideline thing. Al Harrington, who was on first things first yesterday, his first appearance, really good job by him. He's going to be on again today. Pointed out what I didn't notice, which was the interaction started with Luca not wanting to tap up JJ when he was coming to the bench because he was frustrated about something.

And JJ then following him and them talking. And then at the end of it, Luca then, offered JJ his hand to dapp him up and JJ wouldn't dapp up Luca. That part I missed. And then Luca pops up and then Jared Vanderbilt

kind of stands up and gets in front of him and diffuses it. Great job by Jared Vanderbilt. Yeah. 10 out of 10 IQ awareness. Great job by him. And this is where folks can say this is hypocritical of me, but I just know I'm right.

Luca not dapping up JJ. is unfortunate but acceptable. JJ not dapping up Luca is unacceptable because the player-coach relationship is different. I know JJ used to be a player. I was but say it. Jay-J did he used to play, so I do think it's a little bit of a little bit.

But JJ's got to be the adult. So let me give, let me just give a different example. Last week, Chris Finch told Aunt you're getting double-teamed, pass out of it. Yeah. And did.

Chris Finch was like, yelled at him. I don't know if he yelled at him. It was like, pass out of it. Then with 30 seconds left, up one, aunt got triple teamed, did not pass out of it, hit an impossible three, and then screamed at Chris Finch.

Started screaming. That's what I do. That's who I am, whatever it is. that again, I don't even know if that's unfortunate, but I do know that's acceptable, right? Like that that is what would not have been okay, would have been as Chris Finch was like, you're yelling at me. I'm going to scream right back at you. After he is, or even if it had got, let's say he had shot it and missed it.

And Aunt didn't say anything. And then Finch yelled at him the way Aunt yelled at him. the way aunt yelled at him. Like I told you what to do. It would feel different. The coach has to constantly, at least in public,

be above it. And that's something where I think JJ can struggle. But I do think that you know, Luca, Luca is not a perfect player.

But he also is once again, having an unbelievable offensive season. And the Lakers have the same number of losses as the Nuggets. And there has been a lot of the sky is falling with the Lakers. And not so much for Denver, who we'll get to in a moment. Joker, we're talking about how Joker might get robbed of MVP because of games played, that issue, and that Luke has got no shot.

both teams are terrible at defense both teams have 24 losses i i'm not and joker's better than luka but it does feel like joker is not as much better than lucca as he is as much less criticized i said that very awkwardly but the let me put it like this the gap in criticism or critique of Nikola Yokic compared to Luca is far greater than their gap in impact talent and ability. And now I understand it, Joker's one, go ahead. I was about to say Joker, Joker, I think gets a little bit of a pass just because he's taking more, taking more crucial. I could see Joker complaining the dude gets, he gets attacked. But, oh, Luca, I think is.

You're talking about Luca whining. Yeah, I think Luca is a little bit different. And listen, Joker's won three MVP's, Luke's won none. Jokers won a championship. Luca hasn't. Again, I think Joker's the best player in the world, and I think Luca not evolving his game at all

has been a little disappointing. The fact that this year, with LeBron and Austin Reeves, he has a higher usage rate than any year he had with Dallas is bananas. Yeah. But he is still 32. eight and nine every night. And just a uniquely gifted offensive player, which brings us to Draymond.

So go ahead. Yeah, so Drayvon added his thoughts. He said, now when I turn on the TV, all I see is the media that crushed Nico Harrison, which essentially aided in him getting fired, regurgitating the same things that Nico Harrison was saying about Luther. So I don't. I don't know how many in the media are regurgitating the same exact things Nika was saying about Luca.

I also, we don't need for the 15th time to relitigate the Lukadanchich trade, but it does warrant reminding Draymond and others. Yes, part of it was it was inconceivable to trade Lukadansic. but what made it the worst trade in NBA history was that you traded Luca Donchich for pennies on the dollar without seeing if you could get Janus and some picks without seeing what you know if you could

what his actual market value was and we now know it because you traded him for Anthony Davis who you then gave away for nothing Nothing. So it the verdict is in on the Luca trade and that and that verdict is it is an F triple minus even if Luca is out of the league in two years, which he obviously won't be. He was still a guy coming off a 34 9 and 9 season where his team went to the NBA finals. Now on Dremond, I am surprised that Dremond has found the time to still be, you know, his real passion, sports media critic, while he is in the midst of an unspeakably bad year. And where, shockingly, ever since Steph went out, his team has fallen apart, and Draymond just completed a month of February where he shot 38% from the floor,

38%. And that was coming off a month of January where he shot 40%. from the floor. And he started off March in a bad loss last night when they blew a 17-point lead to lose by 13, shooting 20%. I mean, Draymond, who is a Hall of Fame player and a unique person in NBA history. And people can say like, oh, it's, you know, his numbers have never told the story of him. That's definitely true.

I totally get that. But that was because he wasn't one of the single least efficient offensive players in the entire league. When you're that, then the numbers do kind of tell the story. And when your team is no longer the best defense in basketball, no longer a top five, no longer even a top 10 defense. And for the year, you're at 40, 31, 30, 70 splits on eight, five, and five averages. I maybe wouldn't be casting too many stones at anybody doing anything. But that's me.

All right, now let's talk about Lou Dort and Nicola. Yokic and unhinged Oklahoma City fans. Unhinged. So, yeah, you seemed really bothered by George Cheap Shot on Yokage and said it could even impact their ability to repeat. OKC fans really didn't like that and are now demanding you go after Yokic and his antics last night. Where are you at on both of those cases? Let's start with Yokch last night. Yokic did kind of a bunch of flopping like a fish last night.

There's no denying. it. And that was a terrible game for the Nuggets against Utah. Jamal Murray was awesome and you damn near loss to a jazz team that don't want to win. I would have been an awful loss and Joker

wasn't that good. And he seemed to be bothered by how he was being defended so he responded by just kind of leaning on guys when they were essentially boxing him out but boxing him out not on a

about the idea that anybody would compare that to lewd's mixtape of obviously dirty seeming like trying to injure the opponent plays is laughable it's it almost doesn't warrant a resource response, but I find some of the OKC fans so delusional that I will respond to them. Because they found a clip of me saying from, I don't know, sometime on this pod with you, you're on the clip of me saying, of me saying, I don't like OKC. Like, this guy's always had it out for us. Listen, I'm very, very open. about teams, players, styles of basketball I like or don't like.

I found the Shea foul baiting stuff to be an unathetically pleasing style of hoop. That's it. So I, so, and I also think I found some of their stuff a little corny, the commercials and the group interviews or whatever. But I never, once denied them credit.

I never once said they're fraudulent team. I never want, they are objectively excellent. They have been incredibly well built. They're well coached. And Shea, and Shea's ascension to this level of all-time great player is utterly remarkable. So all that's true. Are they the team I root for? No.

Is there, do I find anyone on their team a uniquely captivating personality? Honestly, I think my favorite personality on the team is Caruso. Easy. Do I, you agree with me on that? Yeah, easily. Yeah, I think he's funny. I think, yeah, I like Caruso. Do I think they have any guys that are, even by, for today's era,

like truly great players other than Shea? Not yet. We'll see what Chet turns into. Right now he's a very good player who's great on defense and limited on offense despite the shot. We'll see what J-dub turns into. But no, I mean, that's what I think of that, but they are so deep and so. so well coached and so strategic and such a terror defensively, they absolutely can win the title again and still be set up. And so all of that is true. Here's what's also true. The current

undisputed, unified, universal champion of the world of dirty ass basketball is on your team, Oklahoma City and his name's Lou Dort and he this is a well earned reputation because there have been so many

ooh that didn't look good but maybe it was accidental that we just needed the one that looked awful and there's no way it's accidental for us to retroactively reindite some of the previous crimes.

So I've always, I've always defended Dort on the play Jha got hurt on, I think, in the playoffs. Like, where was he supposed to go? But Grizzlies fans thought it was dirty. I was a neutral party on the play where he ran full speed into Wimby's leg. Whereas like, I don't know, the guy just maybe is a little out of control. I can see how that looks bad, but I'm also not sure.

I have been pretty convinced that his tendency of when he shoots a three, just sticking his own foot out to try to have the defender land on his foot to be, I put it in the same bucket as when Draymond used to kick people in the groin when he was going up for layups and he's like, I don't know what you want me to do. Like, I don't know, bro. Literally anything else. No other player in the league does it. As dirty, but not provable. Provably dirty, but I believe dirty. That shit on Yokic was an embarrassment to basketball. That was a player who was not expecting contact, who did not have the ball, who was going up the court 75 feet from the rim and you stopped your motion you backed up and you threw your leg and hip into it

now I'm not gonna go as far as to say you targeted his previously injured leg but I think that's why he reacted that way because whether he thought you were targeting that leg or just being dirty for the sake of being dirty, you could have really hurt it. And it is, there are way more Damanze impactful or violent things that happen in a basketball game than the Dort play that are not nearly as dangerous. And here's what I mean. you can see a 15 minute cut up of LeBron driving to the basket

and guys doing full-blown swings that end up hitting him in the head or the side of the head or the back of the head or whatever it is. None of those are as dangerous as what Dort did because when you are and I obviously am not

but I know this from talking to guys when you are a pro athlete when you know contact might be coming you have a way to brace yourself and protect yourself

even if it's you know you're doing something else and every time a guy drives to the basket in traffic he knows might get hit here that is so different than someone jogging up the court who you snipe from behind, which is what Dort did, which is why Demons A joker flipped out.

That's why you saw the fury in Joker's eyes. And I am consistent on this because Joker once did something like this to Marquiv Morris. Oh, well, Marquith Morris started it. Yes, Marquit Morris started it. But I'm saying he hit him when he wasn't. It was a cheap shot. Yeah, it was a cheap shot. It was a total cheap shot.

He hit him when he wasn't looking. And Morris got whiplash and was out for a long time. Yeah. And I really went after Joker for that. Because when a guy is not, it's not prepared for the hit. Yeah. It's so different than a super impactful hit you are prepared for. It's the, again, I'm mixing a lot of dumb metaphors here.

But it's the walking into a door in the middle of the night. Yeah. Where you have no, you're not even going that fast, but you had no idea it was coming. And you're like, oh my, is that the worst pain I've ever been in?

As opposed to if one of your, you know, if you're slapboxing or something with one of your buddies and one gets through and hits you when you kind of know that might happen, one has more force behind it. The other hurts way more. stuns you way more. And so here's why I think this matters.

Because OKC gets away with a lot. And this, I do not begrudge them. Do business as business is being done. If the referees are going to let Kaysen Wallace and Lou Dort and J. Dub and every and and Caruso play rugby out by mid court with the opposition, because the refs don't want to call a foul on every play don't want the game to grind to a halt so be it your guys play hard enough they're good enough defenders they get away with enough it's a huge edge do it but having your best defender your most physical defender your biggest

strongest toughest defender who's always had a reputation for being at least a little dirty take a blatant, obvious cheap shot in a nationally televised game against the best player in the world, now the spotlight's on you. And I think OKC will now be officiated tighter. And I think that damages their ability to repeat. The comp I used on TV and I'll use it again.

The Eagles push push was unstop. And then one game early last season. I forget which broadcast crew it was. I think it might have been Brady. But it doesn't. I think it was Brady. But regardless, they show the overhead view and they show all the guys false starting.

And the announcer's like, well, I don't know what you do with that. The officiating expert in the booth is like, I'm done with this play. And all of a sudden, couple times the Eagles got called for a false start, couple times they didn't whistle the play dead, and Jalen ended up fumbling. And all of a sudden, the tush push was way less effective.

They were less comfortable using it. And it stopped being such a devastating. weapon. And the tipping point was the extra scrutiny from the live broadcast and then the talk show and discussions afterwards. OKC is now under massive scrutiny. And they play, don't they play Denver again in a few days? Yeah, I was about to say it adds an extra like hate factor. So other teams around the league, especially Denver team that you might end up having to see to get somewhere. So they play Denver on the ninth. Monday. They play

Oh, they play here in New York tomorrow night. Maybe I'll go. Garden crowd will be up on that. And I think that you are going to see OKC get a much. a much more similar whistle to the rest of the league, the rest of the year. And I think Dort better watch himself on, I'm not talking about other guys cheap-shotting him because there is something to be set. First, Dort doesn't do a lot of stuff where he's cheap-shotable,

like he's not flying through the lane. And there is something to be said to just being, yeah, I'm probably the strongest, toughest guy in this game. So do what you know. Have at it. No, but I think the referees are going to be on high alert for his bullshit. Yeah. And it was just so unnecessary.

And it's so much different. Dreyman disciple, ma'am. Right. So, I mean, Dremont, I mean, he's not the first guy to do stuff like this. Dremont, Pat Bev was the first team all-world at this, Dylan Brooks. Yeah, great. Dylan Brooks is the guy that, Grayson Allen is,

he really likes tripping and kicking. But Dylan Brooks is the best comp I would have. Because Draymond also, not current Dylan Brooks, Dylan Brooks a couple years ago. Draymond also, in his prime, was the best defensive player in the league

and a very useful offensive player. Like, Dort is a better defender than Dylan Brooks was, but a worse offensive. offensive player than Dylan Brooks and there to be the enforcer type. You can be the enforcer type without

throwing it in reverse and taking out the three-time league MVP. On Denver just quickly to Monzae, I still think they can win the title and getting Peyton Watson

and Aaron Gordon back is an utter necessity. But they have been decidedly mid for months they were 21 and 6

December 18th so two and a half months of basketball later they have gone from 21 and 6 to 38 and 24 which means over their last what is that

35 games they are 17 and 18. And needed to escape against Utah last night. They have the 21st ranked defense. I won't write them off, but I'd be a little concerned about them. All right, before we get to Nick Spurs,

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,

and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet.

Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we take. Our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey with all the snacks and drink.

Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white color or something here? Just a hit it. What are y'all doing? Microphones?

Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. How did you move? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict.

You are. I'm not an alcoholic. You are. You're lucky. I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast, Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play. play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard

Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.

So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, DeMonte, let's do Nick Spurs before we do a little NFL. So you were in attendance to watch the Knicks snap the Spurs 11 game win streak, New York, also beat San Antonio in the NBA Cup final. Do you think the Knicks have the blueprint? No, I don't think they have the blueprint, but I was really impressed by what they did. Wimby was really good,

but they also, Kat and OG and an obi who guarded him some and Mitchell Robinson just leaned on. He played physical basketball with them, and I'm not saying he can't handle physical basketball, but it seems. to bother him a bit. And the bigger problem was the Spurs couldn't hit threes.

And the Spurs not being able to hit threes could be their undoing in the postseason. Stefan Castle is under 30%. Dylan Harper is under 30%. Luke Cornett obviously doesn't shoot him. So you're going to have at least one and very often two non-shooters on the court. which can just make things tough over a seven-game series. And so, listen, the Spurs didn't lose in February, so you're not going to panic about them.

They've been awesome. It was more about the Knicks who were awesome to start the year, had a miserable three weeks going two and nine, and are now 14 and 4 in their last 18 with the number one defense in basketball, I think the Knicks are legitimate contenders. If we were to find out Jason Tatum wasn't coming back, I'd be picking the Knicks to win the East with respect to Detroit. Could you see Big San Antonio being a finals matchup?

Sure. Yeah, it could be. I mean, again, the Spurs making the finals would be way ahead of schedule, but they could do it. and I think the Knicks right now have the second best shot of anybody in the East not being disrespectful to Detroit. And Nick Spurs, by the way,

was one of the saddest finals matchups of my life because as a teenager, I was partial to the Knicks because the first NBA game I ever went to was a Knicks game, and I loved Ewing, and I loved LaTrell Spreewell, and the 99 Knicks in the lockout year made the finals,

and then just got dog walked by young Tim Duncan and David Robinson in those finals. All right. Some NFL news, Brees Hall has been franchise tagged by the Jets. That's shocking to me. But I guess Shepter is saying they're going to try to work out a long-term deal. And speaking of running backs, there was a running back traded yesterday. So let's get to that. Yeah, David Montgomery was traded from.

the Texans, or from the Lions to the Texans, sorry, something tells me that you're more interested in the reporting of this trade and not the trade itself. What's that about? So, well, first, let me just do something on the actual trade quickly. Okay. I think this is an ins, because they gave up a reserve offensive lineman, a seventh round pick and a fourth round pick for David Montgomery. I think that is a wild overpay for the Texans.

it is shocking to me that that's what they gave up for David Montgomery who I think is 29 years old or he will be 29 in a few months and is a good player but has never been great and I think that if you're the Lions

and this just frees up more touches for Jamir Gibbs that's awesome And the fact that you got a fourth round pick and stuff for him is even better. But I have to, and I'm sorry, I have to, and I won't be anonymous on this one. And I'm sure he wasn't the only perpetrator of this. But Ian Rappaport had one of the most ridiculous tweet sequences I've ever seen in any type of reporting. So Rappaport tweets,

the Lions are trading standout running back, David Montgomery to the Texans, landing Houston a productive powerback, per the insiders. Sure, no problem. It's very important that we always in these tweets compliment the players because the agents of the players

are the ones giving us the info. We all know the rules, no problem. So he's a standout running back and he's a productive powerback. No problem. I actually got no. issue with that. He then writes, a fifth round pick goes back to Detroit as Knuckles leaves Sonic. Okay. So Dave Montgomery for a fifth. He then tweets, update on terms. The Texans are giving up a fourth rounder, a seventh rounder, and offensive lineman juice scrugs for David Montgomery.

Oh, okay, so a little more than a fifth round pick. Like, you know, you. Kind of just a little bit. But those things happen. Like those things happen. Like the, maybe it was going to be a fifth round pick. And then when it got reported it was a fifth round pick, a different team called and was like,

don't call that trade in. We'll give you a fourth round pick for David Montgomery. So then the Texans called, or the Lions called the Texans are like, hey, now we've been offered a fourth. You've got to give us more. Whatever it is. That happens.

That is not my issue. My issue is with the, the second sentence of the updated tweet, which I will read to you in a moment. But again, I'm just going to read without commentary the tweet. And the first tweet was David Montgomery for a fifth. The second tweet is,

update on terms. It's the Texans fourth rounder, offensive linemen juice Scruggs, and a seventh rounder for David Montgomery. So, fifth rounder. value but a complex deal buddy how bad do you expect us to think juice scrugs is it's the meanest fucking thing anyone's ever said about juice scrugs in his whole life because you don't want to just say I I had the details wrong

Juice Scruggs is a reserve off into Blyman who makes the minimum. And what you're telling us is he's so bad on such an awful contract. Again, he makes the minimum that if you take a fourth round pick, add a seventh round pick to it, and then add the Juice Scruggs tax that drags the value down to a fifth round pick. Get out of here, bro. That is not what it is. That is not fifth round value or a complex deal. It's a mid-round pick, a late pick, and a backup player for the running back.

There is no universe where a fourth, a seventh, and a player on the minimum is fifth round value. Why say that? I honestly don't understand it. What is people's inability to be like, oh, little early on that one. And it's not like, it'd be one,

I would understand the embarrassment if it's like, David Montgomery to the Texans for a fifth. And it was actually David Montgomery to the Vikings for a first. It's like, oh, shit. I'm disastrously wrong. Instead, you got the team,

right you got the pick range is you know close why would you say fifth round value i don't understand it it's such a and it is so symptomatic of what so much of sports reporting is where i got to be first i got to make sure i uh pay tribute to the players so the agents let me continue being first and when that happens sometimes you're going to be wrong again it's not life and death it's not that big of a deal but to then say just got a little excited to the to to then say fifth round value it's just on its face wrong and i can't believe that that tweet is still up that tweet is not edited I I don't again a fourth round pick offensive Lyman Jew Scruggs and a seventh rounder for David Montgomery so fifth round value juice scrub who is juice Scruggs agent that guy shouldn't I'm finding out if hold on uh Jews Scruggs agent is gosh darn it uh oh Kenny Zuckerman

Priority sports entertainment. Kenny, demand an apology from Rap Report. Rather than simply saying, I got the compensation a little wrong, he told the world, your client is such a horrible player that even though he's making the minimum, he drags the value of a fourth round pick

plus a seventh round pick down to the value of a fifth round pick. it's just such a farce. People are so funny, man. And by the way, I don't even, I, and I, and I keep calling him a reserve, I want to see if I'm even right about that, because the Texas offensive line was pretty shaky. Did, um, was spending too much time on true. Wait, yeah, I was about to say, though, a reserve all right on the Texans. Maybe not great.

But he, he was their, he was a starter for them too. years ago and last year um he played for them but only started one game but give me a break i mean mean it's just so so ridiculous um speaking of offensive lineman very quickly the chiefs made the most predictable move of all time they cut uh joan taylor joan taylor is not a bad player he's a heavily penalized player but he's not a bad player he's a false start guy all the time yeah the illegal formation he will be someone starting right tackle this year and he'll make more than $10 million a year. But he was going to be $28 million on the Chiefs cap and he's $8 million dead to cut him.

So you save $20 million. So you have to do it. Of all my concerns for the Chiefs going into next season, offensive line is not on that list. Josh Simmons. So here's why. I thought you might say that. Because they just dealt with a ton of injuries last year is what happened.

But left tackle, Josh Simmons is excellent. Now, when he left the team for a few games, that was not great. But then he was great before, you know, early in the year, he was great when he came back. And then he got his wrist broken by a teammate accidentally on a block. That's not on him. Left tackle is set. Kingsley Suamataia is a fine left guard.

He's not great. He's not Joe Tuny, but they traded away Joe Tunney because they're going to pay other guys. He's fine. They have the best center in the league in Creed Humphrey and a really good right guard and Trace Smith. Right tackle. You have Jalen Moore. You have Ace of Polay. You have Juania Morris. You have three guys who will compete for that job. Again, I'm not acting like they have the best offensive line in the league. But they have massive need at pass rusher. Massive need at running back. And they might have again a need. need receiver depending on Rishi Rice's status. So it's just offensive line is not where they should be picking at number nine. And I'm not surprised they cut Joanne Taylor. So and I would be, I would be gobsmacked if they took an offensive lineman at nine. All right, let's do a couple quick listener questions before we go.

Jason says, Nick, people always say Lamar is a future Hall of Famer. if Lamar retires tomorrow, is he a Hall of Famer, or is that just a projection? No, he's a lock stock Hall of Famer. He doesn't have to play another down. He's won two MVP's three-time first-team All-Pro. I mean, it's as simple as that. Three-time first-team all-pro, two MVPs. You're in the NFL Hall of Fame.

There's no doubt about it. So I think that's pretty simple. The trickier one is, so quarterbacks, who are active right now, who if they never did another thing, are 100% Hall of Famers, is Mahomes, Rogers, Lamar.

I would say Josh is 95% because he does have the MVP. Mr. Stafford. Oh, sorry, and Stafford is 95% as well. And after that, and after that, like, boroughs nowhere close. Yeah.

And I think Russ is probably on the outside looking at. And is there anyone else, is there any other really old guy? No, I think that's the list. All right, last one. KG says, I love this. Kminga going crazy thoughts on the Hawks with him. What the heck what they doing with him over there in Goldenstein? State, man. That was crazy.

I mean, is this a bad look for Golden State at the moment? I will admit. I've never been a Kaminga guy, but he has played well for the Hawks who all of a sudden have won three straight. I will give the kid credit. And Porzingis. Well, yeah, I mean, Porzingis has like a disease or something. I don't know, an illness.

I don't want to speak. I know they've talked about it. I don't want to get it wrong. but Porzingis has some real medical issue that he just can't stay on the court. It's pretty sad, actually. But Cominga's been awesome. All right, we will be back on Thursday.

Reminder to everybody, like, rate, subscribe review to the pod. I will be on with Cowherd in a little over an hour. Also, a reminder for you guys, because I'm actually about to send them some videos on this. Let me see where we're at on it. that that splash sports march madness contest is ripping already it's march madness survivor uh it's three million bucks up top first prize uh there's already you know a few hundred entries and we're a ways away from march madness so you don't have to worry about it filling up but i jump in now if

you'd like uh again three million bucks the first place uh person in that and they put my face on it so i hope it does well 150 bucks 150 $150. Yeah, it's reasonable. It's enough to where you care, but it's, you know, not so much to where it's cost prohibitivement. And so, yeah, I mean, so if you want to do it, do it. I'll buy half of an entry for you to Monzae if you'd like,

or you've got to split the money with me. You got plenty of money these days. All right, like, great subscriber to the pod. Thank you to Blue Duck and one year at the volume. Thank you to you guys. Huge thanks to Hard Rock Bed and Boost. talk to you guys on Thursday. We'll try.

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