The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - NFL Reaction: Micah Parsons WANTS OUT, Caleb STRUGGLES + Luka & Lakers EXTENSION

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Nick Wright breaks down what the Cleveland Browns should do with Shedeur Sanders ahead of their first preseason game... and why Shedeur should be eyeing a trade to the Los Angeles Rams. Later, Nick re...acts to Micah Parsons demanding a trade from the Dallas Cowboys and the potential landing spots for the star pass rusher. Later, Nick discusses Caleb Williams’ training camp struggles with the Chicago Bears, why everyone is too high on the Denver Broncos, and if Baker Mayfield has a shot at winning MVP with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this season. Then, Nick breaks down the Luka Doncic extension with the Los Angeles Lakers, what it means for the team, and how it affects LeBron James’ future. Finally, as always, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:00:12 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you.
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Starting point is 00:01:42 And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis keep coming to you. He's like, you know, I love you, dog.
Starting point is 00:02:01 You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome in, episode 355 of What's Right with Nick Wright. And as always, this episode is brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. So much to do. Amazing weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I wasn't able to say what I was doing beforehand. And I'm not able to say the results yet. But if you guys remember back in the day, the NBC heads up poker championship, 64 person March Madness style bracket that plays down six rounds to one champion, $25,000 a person entry, top prize. I think back then, I don't know what it was. This time it was half a million bucks for top prize. Everyone in the Sweet 16 got 25K Elite 8, got 75K final 4, 150,000.
Starting point is 00:03:01 K, second place, quarter million, first place, half a million. I was in it and got the nut low draw. I had Chino Ream in the first round. If I were to win the first round, I was staring at either Eric Lindgren or Jason Coon, and in theory, it just got harder from there. But that's what I was doing this weekend, and it will air on Peacock in October and on Poker Go afterwards. So once it air, like no spoilers. It's like taping a season of Survivor, except, you know, either more cool or less cool, depending on what you like.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Where I know the results and I can't discuss them. And again, no spoilers. But if on, you know, if on the next pod, I'm wearing a new watch, maybe I did well. What I will tell you is it was an unbelievable experience. I can't wait to really be able to talk about it. but that's what I was doing over the weekend um here is another thing that happened over the weekend de monse this is this is you'll love this you'll love this and the listeners should love this as well i think so i played in uh yeah i think it's fair the i played in a pretty famous
Starting point is 00:04:20 private card game uh in Vegas and i don't want to say whose it was because all of a sudden card games they're getting you know just ask gilbert arenas that can go sideways on you this of course that none of those uh you know unsavory elements but whatever it was some of the more famous card players in the world and there were two people there i didn't know but were um you know big time card players and my first day there after about 20 minutes one of the guys came over to me and and i'd love to say who these people were but it's privacy and whatever so I'm not going to. And he says, I want to show you something. And he opens up his podcast app. And the podcast he was listening to on the way in was you and me, our last episode from Thursday. And I was like, that is so cool. And this is on what day, though? This is Friday. This was on Saturday night. Saturday night. He was listening to Thursday. Thursday pod. Yeah. So cool. Then like two hours later, this British guy that I've been sitting next to for hours, he has a similar, he had a similar chain
Starting point is 00:05:35 as me. And so we were talking about it. And he had talked about where he got his and, you know, whatever. And I was saying, you know, hey, if you're ever in New York, like, I've got a pretty good connect, you know, that I, at least, you know, because whenever you buy like any diamond jewelry, unless you're a diamond expert like it's you just risk getting totally scammed you know what i mean like are these real are they not am i you know are you're saying they're v v with this i think it's that like like who the hell knows and he was like he's like man i really might take you up on that he's like i've had this forever and then he just drops in he's like but i think your two chain thing looks so cool on the pod with de monzae i'm like
Starting point is 00:06:22 I didn't even know he knew who I was. A dude that lives in England, but he's watching. So shout out. So it made me feel great about the podcast. So that was awesome. And I, as always, I can't thank Brent Hanks, Jeff Platt, Mory, and all the guys of poker go. And the guys at poker stars, Gary Gates and such, for getting me in the field. It was an invitational only field.
Starting point is 00:06:47 So it was really, really awesome. And so really appreciate all those guys getting me in there. And in October, we'll be able to talk about it. Like, I didn't even Instagram or post that I was there because then people would be like, oh, how'd you do? And I'd be like, well, I can't tell you. And so I'll promote it when it's on, but it's great. Curtis, by the way, says, Nick, crazy to hear it's episode 355.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I've been listening since episode one. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. And the other thing we'd appreciate is if you would like great, review, get the alerts on YouTube. Put some reviews in on iTunes and Spotify. That would be wonderful and subscribe there as well. All right. Let's get to straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile. Game of the year is the first game of the year. And I'm not just saying this because it's on Fox, but one versus two, Texas, Ohio State in August is pretty freaking sweet. the fact that August 30th, this month that we're in right now,
Starting point is 00:07:51 you have a massive, massive college football game is sick. Darren Fox signs a max extension. I don't know about that one. That was, you have Castle, you have Harper, now you have Fox, who is a player. I've always liked a lot. But Fox at 60-some million a year or a little bit under, the question, Daniel writes,
Starting point is 00:08:16 in the dock is is it because he's a trade piece my question is is he more or less tradable on this extension or was he more tradable on an expiring i don't know i like fox a lot but is daren fox ever going to be a top 10 player obviously not is he clearly and unequivocally a top 20 player not clearly and unequivocally he's like in the mix for that so that's that's just worries me a bit if I'm being totally honest and noel Lyle's quest to just being totally unlikable continued you know what I mean in full force uh and uh the of course Kenny Bednarik shoved him because he ran into his lane like I just don't get Liles I don't think there was some stuff going on between those two before the race I agree no there clearly was
Starting point is 00:09:15 but you still can't cross over into the dude's lane. Just ran 100 meters, basically as fast as a human being can run it. You're not going to be able to throttle down immediately. Amazing weekend for track. 16 year old ran a minute 42, 800. A 16 year old just ran a time in the 800 that would have won the college national championship last year. it is un it's for the track nerds out there they said it's one of another poker guy chris brewer who was a collegiate track guy said it's one of the most impressive track accomplishments ever what that
Starting point is 00:09:55 guy did and one of the thing that didn't quite make the cut and i didn't want to do a full topic on it but uh president trump says saquan barclay's part of the president's athleticism counselor whatever say Juan barclay's like then afterwards it's like i am shocked no i am not and i can't believe he would say that without talking to me to which i would say this is why some of us kind of said buddy like you can say you're just you know you play golf with everybody and everything's fine and you don't have a take but you know you get in that orbit a bit and all of a sudden maybe you get you get scammed a bit i don't know just just my take i'm not that i'm not that shocked that that went down that way and Sequin, I think's too smart to where he shouldn't be that shocked either.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Now, to the biggest story in the sports world, the six quarterbacks on the Cleveland Browns. Let's get to it, DeMonse. Yeah, so the Browns have officially released their quarterback hierarchy and it goes as follows. Flacco is number one. Pickett, number two, Gabriel, number three, and Shador, your guy at number four. And so they're bringing in Snoop Huntley because of injuries to Gabriel and Pickett. You wanted to leave with the show with this. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Okay. So here is what is so interesting about where I have found myself with the Shador Sanders conversation. Before the draft, I was one of the biggest skeptics. If you remember, like I said almost immediately that I did not think there was any real, like who which quarterback's going to go first overall debate it was cam ward clearly and unequivocally i then also talked about how i thought there was a very real chance that the pittsburgh would be able to draft shadore without trading up in one of my very first mock drafts back
Starting point is 00:11:57 when chador was mocked in going top five i had him sliding all the way way to Pittsburgh. Then when the in the in the 20s when the this is all pre-draft when the reports came out that Pittsburgh was flatly just going with Aaron Rogers. I said on the TV show and on this show, sorry, I just rolled over Dexter on the TV show and on this show that I thought it was a very real possibility should or slid out of the first round entirely. And I was discussing how I did not think that was because of personality stuff. Now, maybe I was wrong about that, but I thought everyone was focused on Shador the person
Starting point is 00:12:41 when I thought Shador, the player, just wasn't a dominant player the way some people thought he was. That was my pre-draft take. My pre-draft take is good, not great athlete, not a super strong arm, you know, like that. I didn't know that he was a blue chipper. Those are still all my takes on Shador, by the way.
Starting point is 00:13:04 But what's happened in Cleveland, he then ends up going to a team where the quarterback options are the second oldest quarterback in football Joe Flacco and injured first round bust in Kenny Pickett, a wee little fella in Dylan Gabriel and him. And so the point I made on last week's pod was the only guy on the round. with actual upside even if it's very small is Shador and since then all Dylan Gabriel has done is have awful practice after awful practice where the beat writers covering the team are talking about how it you almost feel badly for him and gotten hurt Kenny Pickett has also gotten hurt so here's why I want to talk about the Snoop Huntley thing so the Brow Play Friday night.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It looks like DeMonsey Pickett and Gabriel are not going to be able to play. Okay? So those snaps are gone. Flackos 100. I would imagine they never planned on him playing preseason game one. So the only quarterback they've got is Shador. So if that's why they signed Snoop Huntley, just because they need
Starting point is 00:14:37 insure, you know, you want to be able to run your offense, even in the preseason game, so other guys get reps. And what if something happens to Shador or something like that? So be it. That's fine. There's no issue with that. But Snoop Huntley should not be taking more than five practice snaps from Shador. and the plan for Friday should be whatever you want to do with Flacco, you do,
Starting point is 00:15:13 whether that's playing one series, whatever they, Flacco's their starting quarterback and going to be their starting quarterback, and they don't want to just punt the season before the season starts, even though their depth chart, have you seen, like, the Brown's offensive depth chart is something to be, You just stare at it. Right now, it's Flacco at quarterback, David and Joku, who's a very nice player at tight end,
Starting point is 00:15:46 Jerome Ford's their starting running back, Cedric Tillman, Jamari Thrash, and Jerry Judy are their top three receivers, with Deontay Johnson being their number four, and an offensive line of DeWan Jones, Joel Botonio, Ethan Poaching, Pachik, pardon me, Wyatt Teller and Jack Conklin as their offensive line. It's impossible.
Starting point is 00:16:10 So we know they're going to be bad, but they don't want to say off the top they're going to be bad. So be it. So whatever you think you need to do to have flacco ready, you do. After that, Shador Sanders should play the entirety of that preseason game. If Gabriel and Pickett are hurt, there is no reason whatsoever. On Friday for Snoop Huntley, who is. is right now the sixth quarterback on the Browns roster. Because Deshawn's on the roster.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I know he's not playing. For Snoop Huntley to get a single snap. And again, this is not a knock on Snoop Huntley, who sneakily has a Pro Bowl to his name and started a playoff game for your Baltimore Ravens, you know, a couple years ago. And I'm glad Huntley's getting another look. I promise it's not an indictment on Snoop.
Starting point is 00:17:03 but you this is the opportunity to see how Shador looks in a big sample against a live defense and there are local Browns fans and media have gotten a little conspiratorial about, you know, what the team does and doesn't like about Shador's whatever it is. and are they trying to kind of, you know, slow as progress? Is it weird because the coaches didn't want them, but the owner did? I, you know, I don't know. You don't think they're getting ready to, like, trade them or anything. There's something, something lurking.
Starting point is 00:17:44 So if that's the case, then that's even more of a reason to showcase it. Right. Like, if here's one that I find interesting and that I think actually, could be like a best case scenario for Shador. Best case. If I'm Shador, I am hoping beyond hope. I get three quarters,
Starting point is 00:18:13 maybe the whole game. Because if Flacco's not going to play, then Shador in theory should play the entire game. That I look decent and that the Los Angeles Rams call the Browns. and the Los Angeles Rams call the Browns so I can be their third string quarterback as odd as that sounds because that's right
Starting point is 00:18:39 the Rams story right now is Matt Stafford's got a bad back and that is really concerning and their backup quarterback while a fine backup quarterback has his own injury concerns which is Jimmy Garapola if I'm Shador
Starting point is 00:18:58 and I can't like getting to Los Angeles no there will be no media attention like should he be the starter Stafford's there and for the Rams it gives you a chance to maybe have a answer at quarterback even if it's a long shot again I I've never believed Shador is a surefire NFL starter but he's got a shot have an answer at quarterback after this year, if this does end up being Stafford's last year, and maybe more importantly, not more importantly, but equally important as to why you would do this trade now rather than the offseason, whatever it is, if Stafford, you know, isn't ready for the start of the season, because yesterday, McVeigh was talking about Stafford and he's like, he's doing some light cardio. He's walking around.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like what? Like that's that's not great. So let's just say Stafford's not available the very beginning of the season. And let's say Jimmy Garoppolo gets clocked during week one. Then all of a sudden you're staring at Stets and Bennett. And so like even if it's just a little short term gap starter. And we saw McVeigh get Baker ready in one day for a start. like he could have so i do hope that and if you're the browns if you spent a fifth on should or
Starting point is 00:20:34 and just trade him for a fourth you won it's like great job that's great great process you know what i mean so but i say all that to say i am not a conspiracy theorist but if we get this Browns practice report and Snoop Huntley was taking a lot of reps and on Sunday Shador plays a half and Snoop plays a half that's my conspiracy theorist
Starting point is 00:21:07 a 10A will pop up as Wilds does on TV because that makes no sense for anyone involved for anyone involved so that's why I wanted to lead with the Browns I'm actually fascinated by it. We also, the only other, we, the court, we don't really have quarterback competitions this year, except for the saddest one ever in Indy with Anthony Richardson or Dan and your guy, my guy, Anthony Richardson and your guy, Daniel Jones. I think James Jones is one of that battle right now.
Starting point is 00:21:41 It seems like, oh, the Saints as well. You know what? I tend to forget the Saints are an NFL team this year. And I think that one is sadder. By the way, you want to know an unbelievable fact that I want to make sure is a fact before I say it. So the Saints, yeah, it is a fact, and by a lot, actually. The Saints quarterback battle is Spencer Rattler, Jake Hainer, and their second round pick Tyler Shuck.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Oh, yeah. Tyler Shuck, who was their second round pick, this year, De Manze, you're going to laugh at this, is eight months older than Trey Lance. Yes. Think about that. He's eight months older than Trey Lance, who by the way, shout out Trey. Yeah, we're a nice little. Hall of Fame game.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Still, though, he just needs to get, you know, like, he's, it, it, it, it, Trey just turn 25. So like he's been in the league forever, but again, he's younger than a second round pick this year, which is so weird. Also, the Saints. What are you doing? The, the, Demons, what year did you graduate high school? 2017.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So Tyler Shuck, who was the Saints draft pick this year, he graduated in 2018. he's won and he's just like he finished college four months ago that's a long that's as long as long as it takes um all right uh we'll keep going by the way if you can't tell from the leading with the browns and the tyler shuck discussion in the a block it is the dog days of summer which means it's time for the boys of summer to kick it into gear and the best way to cash in on your Baseball IQ is with Draft Kings sportsbook. Stretch drive begins. Draft King's Sportsbook has you covered with live betting, home run props, odds, boosts, and more.
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Starting point is 00:28:28 All right, DeMonse, let's get to the news that broke right as I got to Vegas, which is the Micah Parsons News. Micah Parsons officially requested her trade he was on Friday, Saturday. And he said,
Starting point is 00:28:42 unfortunately, I no longer want to be here and Jerry followed it up with. I'm not in any way revising the mentality that I have about how I go about negotiations. What do you think about the drama in Dallas and Jerry? Yeah, here's the deal. I find the way Jerry tried to go about these negotiations, whether he meant to do it like this or not, but to be unethical. And I don't appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I think I think that it is totally fine for a manager and a employee to be having a conversation, compensation or a contract or something comes up and they start discussing it. I think that's fine. And I think that if you're, you know, the, if you're Micah, you're smart enough to know that if, if you weren't comfortable having any part of that conversation, that you can just say, hey, I'm not talking money here. That's what my agent's for. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Um, and I think it's fine to try to work on a framework from those conversations. I think that is totally fine. And I think that it's even reasonable at times for, uh, I think it's reasonable at times that you might actually come to a real agreement. That it might be like, yeah, yo, you'll pay me that. That's what I want. That's what you want. That's what you want. Great. Sure. No problem. I think it is outrageous. for the management side to think whatever is said in that setting is binding in any way, shape, or form. I don't think it's outrageous for the player to think what the manager is offering is a real offer because that the Jerry Jones is the person negotiating for the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Micah Parsons is not the person negotiating for Micah. And so here is the way I understand it. This went. Jerry and Micah got together in March. Micah thought they were having a general meeting about team leadership. During that meeting, a potential contract came up. It seems like Jerry threw out a number or they had an idea. And Micah in the moment was like, yes, sounds good.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah, that would work. Micah then went to his agent. And his agent said, okay, that's fine, but I think we can do better. I think we will do better. They need to talk to me. And the Cowboys stance from that moment forward has been, we don't need to talk to you. We are not talking to you. We have an agreement in place.
Starting point is 00:31:57 That's unethical. That is, when you know someone has a professional that they pay massive amounts of money, to negotiate for them. And it is outrageous to then assume any negotiation that is done without that person's involvement is binding. And Jerry now saying, and there's another piece of this that I also really, really don't like, which is I do not view rookie contracts the way I view second contracts. contracts. So let me give you an example from my team and a guy that I love. Chris Jones. So Chris Jones had a rookie deal of let me, I want to four years six million bucks, right? He then got
Starting point is 00:33:04 franchise tagged and then they worked out a new deal four years, 80 million dollars. Okay. During the going into the final year of that deal, he wanted a new contract entirely. And the chiefs made him an offer. They were, you know, they made him what they thought was a fair offer. He disagreed. That led to his holdout. Remember, he missed week one against the Lions.
Starting point is 00:33:34 He's watching it from the box. And then they end up giving him a little extra money to make him happy. but not a new contract. Just a little slight bump in that final year. They held the line on what they thought was reasonable. And they never used these terms. But it was, listen, man, like, we negotiated a four-year deal. We're in year four.
Starting point is 00:34:03 We are open to renegotiation. But if we need to have you play this out, we're okay with that. because we agreed to this contract. That's not how the rookie contracts work at all. Rookie contracts, there is no negotiation. There is no agreement. There is no back and forth. You are drafted in a certain spot.
Starting point is 00:34:25 You are slotted in that spot. It is a four-year contract. If you're a first-round pick, the team can then add a fifth year to it, that again, you have no say in. you have no ability to negotiate to change that I don't want to pick it up so that is why every single first round pick from Micah's draft class that has performed at a high level has gotten their next deal because it's the first deal they actually get to negotiate and they have it is why again whether you think it was
Starting point is 00:35:07 you know, some of these deals you might think was done by the team. But Trevor Lawrence got a new deal after year three. Jamar Chase got a massive deal this summer. Jalen Waddle got a new deal after year three. Pena Sewell got a massive deal. J.C. Horn, Matt, top of market deal. Patrick Sartan, top of market deal. Devante Smith, great deal after year three.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Rishon Slater just got a top of market deal. market deal. That's everyone. So I just went over 10 guys taking in the top 13. Here are the people, maybe it wasn't 10, but here are the top 13 picks from the 2021 draft who did not have not gotten huge second contracts. Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Micah Parsons. It's out That puts it in a perspective right there. Yeah. Yeah. They got so top 13 picks who from that draft class who have gotten new deals. Oh, I apologize. I left one guy out. Kyle Pitts has not gotten one. Sorry. Um, but that may, again, that be so the ones who have gotten it. Let me do it again. Top 13 picks. Trevor got a deal. Jamar Chase. Jalen Waddle, Pena Sewell, Jacey Horn, Pat Sertan, Devante Smith, Rishon Slater.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Those are the eight with new deals. Here are the five without them. Zach Wilson, who's been on multiple teams. Trey Lance, who's been on multiple teams. Justin Fields, who's been on multiple teams. Kyle Pitts, who's shown flashes but hasn't, you know, achieved up to what people expected. And Micah Freaking Parsons, who's the first player in NFL history to be top three defensive player of the year voting in each of his first three seasons. And for them to be holding him hostage based on we had an agreement in March is insane.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And Jerry, now, do I think they're going to trade him? I do not. Do I think he ultimately will get paid? Yeah, probably. Do I think this is going to be another year where Jerry, because of the way he does business, gets the headlines, gets the discussion, and, you know, and then it's much ado about nothing, maybe, but it is not in anyone's interest for Micah to not be out there practicing. They have a new head coach.
Starting point is 00:37:57 They are, he's the best player on the team, and this is not a, in my opinion, I don't love in general the honor the contract stuff in the NFL. because teams obviously can cut players at any time. We are so ingrained in teams cutting players that when a new contract, think about this is where the media can be unintentionally a little insidious. Hold on one second. If you're watching on YouTube, yeah, Dexter, you're blocking our Boost Mobile pillow. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:38:29 You got to move, Dexter. There you know. People of Boost Mobile pay good money to sponsor this show. And Dexter, you're laying up on their pillow. I'm back. The way, think about how when a new contract is signed in the NFL, it is framed. You'll hear this. It's a five year, $110 million deal with $45 million guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And the team can get out of it after three years. The day it's signed, it's looked at as, okay, it's five years, but really, if it's not a good contract, when is the team able to cut ties? How quickly into it? Because we know that's how it works. So I'm not a huge fan of asking players to honor the contract anyway when nobody gets mad when players get cut by teams. But it is particularly outrageous to ask players to honor a rookie contract that they did not get to negotiate. that they had no saying. And especially a first,
Starting point is 00:39:44 if Micah was just a slightly worse college player, he would have already been paid because the Cowboys wouldn't have had a fifth year option on him and he wouldn't have been a first round pick. So I think he gets paid. Go ahead. Oh, because on the subject of fifth year options,
Starting point is 00:40:00 do you think the fifth year options have you taken away if you make a pro ball or all pro? So it's interesting. I think, That the idea behind the fifth-year option, in my opinion, was, I'll give you a great example. You know who the fifth-year option is really good for? Kyle Pitts, because he has not achieved at the level they wanted him to, but he, they spin a top five pick on him.
Starting point is 00:40:43 and he has shown flashes and they don't want to, you know, just move on immediately, right? So I think that that is a fair compromise in his instance. So what I was going to say is I think the player should be able to decline the fifth year option. But that's probably tricky because then every player would probably decline it. Should you be able to achieve out of fifth-year option eligibility? Yeah, I think that because you have to declare fifth-year option for a team after year three. I think an all-pros spot is a very high threshold, but I think that's probably fair. if this pro bowl is too tricky now because what is and what isn't a pro bowler you know what
Starting point is 00:41:44 I mean you could maybe you could say on the original pro bowl team you know what I mean like one of the not an alternate not a replacement whatever exactly some um but certainly so this is what I would say if a player in their first three years makes at multiple pro bowls or a singular all pro team first or second team then yeah 50 your options out of there like if you want and by the way the team still has the franchise tag right uh you know the but at least and for micah because he has been an all pro the the price of the fifth year option is the same as the franchise tag so you might say what good would that do well you can only franchise tag a player ever twice.
Starting point is 00:42:41 The rule is three times, but no one's ever getting franchise tagged a third time because the third one is so exorbitant. And so at least if the Cowboys right now were threatening to franchise, Micah, he would then know, okay, fine, you could do this once more than I can never be franchised again the rest of my career and I have ultimate leverage like Dak ended up getting.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But yeah, so, I don't like how the Cowboys are doing this, and I don't like that Jerry, I think, knows better about what ethical negotiations are and isn't really honoring that, in my opinion. You said that you didn't see Michael Parsons getting traded, so you want to do a likely maybe what if? What do you think the situation is that will end up coming?
Starting point is 00:43:31 So it's likely that he gets let me pull up t j wott's deal t j wott got three for 123 with 108 guaranteed 41 million a year i think it is likely that mica gets four for 170 with a hundred and seventy with a hundred and 10 guaranteed. So 42 million a year, the first three years basically fully guaranteed, and the fourth year is a, you know, basically a team option.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That's how I think this will play out. I think that's likely. I think maybe, maybe they don't come to an agreement. And he plays the, year out that's probably the least likely and the what if is what if a team says what if buffalo just says you know what salary cap be damned the fact that we tried this with von miller before didn't work out be damned we are not shaw mcdermott's like i lose to patrick mahomes
Starting point is 00:45:02 in the playoffs because we allow 30 points again i i'm out of here anyway you know let's figure out how to make this one. Would that scare you? I would not want the Chiefs to trade for Micah Parsons. And I think Micah is arguably the best defensive player in football. I just think if you have the superstar
Starting point is 00:45:32 quarterback, which the Ravens have, the Bills have the Chiefs have. Well, you have to. It's not you can. You have to. You just can't like. And, you know, the chiefs already have a super expensive Chris Jones. You know what I mean? And so like they, I don't think it would be a good idea for the Ravens to trade for Micah. If the bills, the bills maybe have to change something.
Starting point is 00:46:04 You know what I mean? So what it's scare? Here's the answer on would it scare me. It would certainly bum me out for this season. but I think if we're looking at the Bills, chief's rivalry as being over the next five years minimum, I think that is the type of trade that they would long-term regret. Yeah, even if Micah wins defensive player of the year twice in that time frame.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I just think you'd have to give up so much and pair away so much of the rest of the roster that, you know what I mean? You wouldn't. So scare is maybe the wrong. Here's a team that I think, you know, should might want to say screw it and do it. The Raiders. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Like, we got no, we got no secondary, but we could have Max and Micah. We're trying to win right now anyway. Why not? You know what I mean? Like, that is, that's one. I think there are a few teams that might make sense. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Let's go to Sean Payton. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?
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Starting point is 00:49:56 So, yeah, the media has been super high on the Broncos. You have not been. So is Sean Payton. He came out and said the short-term goal is winning the division. But this is the team capable of winning the Super Bowl. I've coached six teams that I thought could win the Super Bowl. This is my seven. Yeah, so should we believe in this?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Is he too high? Too low. He also said Bo Nix in the next two years going to be a top four or five quarterback in the world. He also said he's going to be a superstar. Also, by the way, check out when you're subscribing to What's Right with Nick on YouTube, there's another new channel you can subscribe. to on YouTube. Did you see this, Damase?
Starting point is 00:50:40 What is it? Bo Nix's new YouTube channel. And my take that Bo Nix, my take going into the draft was Bo Nix was Mac Jones. For those of you wondering how that has, how that looks so far, well, Mac Jones in year one with the New England Patriots made a somewhat fraudulent pro bowl as an alternate. Bo Nix check. The team won 10 games kind of surprisingly made the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Bo Nix check. The team played the Buffalo Bills in round one, lost by four touchdowns. Bo Nix check. And Mack Jones, that offseason, trademarked Mac 10 and all this silly stuff because he was a future Star go follow Bo Nix on YouTube. Here is my problem with the Broncos hype and discussion.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Gosh darn it. Dexter. You know what? I actually think it's value add. It draws attention. It draws attention. Exactly right. Here is what I think people are not recognizing.
Starting point is 00:52:06 when they are talking about the Broncos as content. Broncos have an excellent defense, and that matters. Now, Dre Greenlaw is dealing with a quad already, and Hufanga, who I love as a player, has been injured every year since his rookie season. Those are their two big additions. The other problem is this. Last year, DeMonze, they won 10 games, okay?
Starting point is 00:52:33 The first game they won, they beat Baker Mayfield. Salute. That's a real thing. That's good one. Who's who they beat after that? Okay. Aaron Rogers, who the Jets then got rid of. They then beat Spencer Rattler,
Starting point is 00:52:54 who is in a quarterback, the saddest quarterback battle of the year. They then beat Bryce, before Bryce got hot. They then beat Kurt. cousins right before they benched him. They then beat Gardner Minshu. I left that out earlier.
Starting point is 00:53:13 They actually beat Gardner twice. They then beat whoever the hell was starting for the Browns at the time, James, who is currently, I think, a third string quarterback. They then beat Anthony Richardson, and they then beat Chad Henning. That's all their wins. Now, we are now saying they're contenders. Well, to be contenders, let's just start with the conference. How did you do against playoff teams in your conference?
Starting point is 00:53:48 Well, you played Pittsburgh week two and lost. You played the Chargers week six and lost. You played the Ravens, week nine and lost. You played the Chiefs week 10 and lost. You played the Chargers, week 16 and lost. You played the Bengals who weren't in the playoffs, but that was a playoff level game. that game because they were still alive, week 17 and lost.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You then played the bills in the actual playoffs and lost 31 to 7. Why am I supposed to believe that team all of a sudden is going to be great? Now, folks out there like, oh, Nick, you always just hate on the Broncos. Last year, preseason gambling show, our favorite win total of the year, Broncos over five and a even though I didn't believe in Bo Nix because that number was too low they had a last place schedule Russ it was so terrible for him I'm just calling it as I see it and right now is there any other team this year or any year that you can remember that had the pretty universally accepted worst quarterback in their own division
Starting point is 00:55:08 that we were like, yep, that team look out for them. Like, let's just look at the other teams across the league who have the worst quarterback in the division, what we think of them. Justin Fields and the Jets, were we afraid of them? Whoever's starting for the Browns, Joe Flacco, how are they looking? I get enough division. the cults with Daniel Jones the giants with Russ the Vikings with JJ and again that's harsh on him but he's just young now maybe Domazza is like I'm it's Caleb again I don't think I don't think people is even though Caleb stock is dropping have JJ ahead of him in the south the saints with whatever their deal
Starting point is 00:56:09 with and in the west Seattle with Darnold or Arizona I guess with like I I just they just believe in I am they're believe say it again they're believers I they believe in themselves Sean Peyton has talked a lot of shit though yeah and yeah and listen this is a tricky one because Sean Peyton as great of a coach as he is he must be a better hang because the media loves him so many of my colleagues at fox just from the one year of working with him they love him i i think peter shreger my pal he loves him and we kind of give sean peyton a you know like he walks into denver does the interview about what a clown show it was under Nat Hackett and by week three, the dolphins are hanging 70 on them.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Last year, after sneaking into the playoffs and then getting absolutely demolished by Buffalo has the audacity to say, if we had won this game, we really liked our next matchup, which was going to be against the Chiefs. a chief's team that then beat the Buffalo team that he lost two by a hundred. And now he's like talking division isn't big enough for us. We need to be talking Super Bowl when that team has not won the division since the last year, they won the Super Bowl. I just,
Starting point is 00:58:03 I just, a weak NFL right now. I think is what's going on. Maybe. And here. is the other thing, Damase. I am very, very prepared for
Starting point is 00:58:16 a month into the year the Broncos to maybe be 4 and 0. Yeah. And people are firing stuff back at me. Like, because their softest part of their schedule
Starting point is 00:58:35 is the beginning, in my opinion. Home for Tennessee. at the Colts, at the Chargers, which is a home game, home for Cincinnati. But I'm curious how the rest of that's going to go for them. And we'll see. But I am, this is one where I have put my money where my mouth is. I'm in the process right now of negotiating a real Broncos bet with poker legend and one of the best sports betters ever, David Baker,
Starting point is 00:59:14 I think I'm going to give him Broncos to win the division at plus 320. And I think we're also going to what, DeMonset, you look flustered by that. He wants to bet and give you money for the Broncos winning the division. Well, I got to give him plus 320. So, you know what I mean? If we bet a thousand bucks, he can win $3,200. but yeah he wants that bet and he but i'll also i think bet him make miss playoffs and so like maybe i'll be wrong but i'm i want this take understood and i want to see and you know what maybe i'll
Starting point is 01:00:06 make a third bet with david if we can find a fair price on this and have it be and either or and if it's neither, then it's no action. Which is, the Broncos are so much more likely to finish last in the AFC West than finish first. They are, like, I think the Chargers are better than them. I know the Chiefs are better than them. and I think the Raiders, because of schedule, coaching, quarterback, I think the Raiders can pop.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Now, the most likely outcome is the Broncos finish third. I understand that. But I see no outcome whatsoever where the Broncos finish first. And we'll see. We'll see how the future superstar Bo Nix looks. come November. Maybe I'll be wrong. I doubt it, though.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And Boss AJS says in the chat, show us the team and quarterbacks the chiefs beat. It's not that impressive. Last year? I mean, we can do that. That's pretty funny. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Who are the teams and the, who are the quarterbacks the chiefs beat last year? Lamar Josh Allen cousins Herbert car Purdy Minchu Baker nix Bryce Minchew Berber Herbert I thought I said Burrow um oh Cleveland whoever was their quarterback then um CJ whoever the Steelers quarterback oh Russ then C. J again than Josh Allen. So every single good quarterback in football. Denver in week 18 though.
Starting point is 01:02:14 38 to 0. Yeah, they didn't play their guys. Yeah. They said everyone. And, uh, and I, and then they got crushed in the Super Bowl. They beat every. So in other words, they beat every single good quarterback in football, except for Jaden, who they never played, Hertz who beat them and Stafford, who they never played.
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Starting point is 01:03:16 deal. In store offer only $35 device set up fee may apply requires credit qualification, ID verification, and activation on a $60 plan. Tax is extra, 5G speeds not available in all areas. All right, DeMonsei, let's keep going. We're going to go faster through these next ones. Camp has been slightly unfortunate for your guy, Caleb Williams. He went five of 17 with three interceptions. Can I say something real quick? I'm putting a slight asterisk on this five of 17. I saw one person tweet it.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And then I saw articles written that cited the tweet. So I'm not certain that was the exact number, but he obviously struggled in front of the fans. Now keep going. He had delay a game penalties. And he was throwing a ball at this net. And he could not get it in the net and he got really mad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I thought that made it. All right. Do we want to play this? Yeah. Okay. So, Demons. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Okay. Do you remember when we had the dart board out on? on the back deck. Yeah. That final throw reminded me of when I would be playing darts and barely miss my first two attempts. And then the third one, I would just rear back and fire it and sometimes miss the board entirely.
Starting point is 01:04:55 And so here's the serious take. The little pout reaction after is, in my opinion, more concerning than the throws. Like, we know Caleb Williams can make short, quick pinpoint throws. Like he didn't there, but we know, like, it's not like, oh, man, this guy, he's not, when he is not deep in his own head, he is an accurate, precise pass. The problem is the getting in his own head and the problem is, the body language
Starting point is 01:05:38 and the emotional stability of him as a player. Now, I think Ben Johnson is, and I'm going to talk about in this drill. I'm talking about the delay of games and the, I think Ben Johnson is intentionally trying to break him down a bit to then build him back up
Starting point is 01:06:05 and trying to, throw. Yes, and trying to throw as much at him as possible. I know there was a, I know there was a clip, or not a clip, but a report that Ben intentionally cut out the communication between Caleb's headset to see how he reacted to that. He's doing a lot so they can then, when it's time for the actual games, streamline it and things will feel easier than they actually are. I think that's smart as long as Caleb doesn't get too down on himself. And as long as Caleb can handle it well. And I do think one of the, I didn't love the commentary about Caleb after he cried in college.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Because so much of it felt kind of lowest common denominator. And there was a lot of like winking and a nod to paints his nails, carries a murder. and now he's crying and it just felt like we know what you're trying to imply and like it and so so i stayed out of it i do think though there was something to the taking a loss that hard and not being you know able to compose yourself that was like oh that you know that's something you know just like it does what i didn't like was it felt that you know it felt that you're That I would have felt the exact, my opinion would have been the exact same if instead of crying, he had gone to the gatorade table and thrown that and broken stuff or whatever,
Starting point is 01:07:48 but it felt like the general reaction would have been very different because they were basically saying he's feminine. Like that's what the attacks were. And that part, like that's bullshit. But the inability to like keep your cool. Deal with the loss and keep your composure. 100% that part's real that part's real and that's like a fair concern um so i i still fully believe in kaleb i do think that he has to he doesn't have to be excellent week one on but he has to He has to either be solid all year or, you know, the final two months, a la Jordan loves first year with the, you know, Packers, where it like looks pretty shaky early.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Like, oh, man, is this guy not the guy? And then bam. You know, it's like, oh, shit, he just won offensive player of the month. You know, something like that. If he's the guy I think he is, he has to give you a, a, a, a, tangible reason to believe it in year two um which by the way to be pretty good over that i think he needs to make an effort in that department because the say on him right now it's not great like with the attitude thing i think it's a it's a much bigger thing that would it needs to be right now outside of just i agree with you i agree with you and i think you know from your you know to smile our experience together yeah in in sports how important i think that is i think that when you are a team's best player
Starting point is 01:09:39 and calab's not you know maybe he's not their best player yet but he's the starting quarterback and number one pick like you're the de facto leader right it people take their cues from you and this is something that i you know i used to give de monzae so much shit about that he that he that that he wore his emotions on his sleeve and i thought that opponents saw it but more importantly like it people that are the leader of a team or the best player on a team you're less the the teammates of yours that aren't as talented as you take their cues from you so i'm not going to you know play favorites here like he's got to be better about that and it is one of in my opinion something Patrick, Josh, and Lamar do exceptionally well.
Starting point is 01:10:36 It's always, first of all, you're pointing thumbs, not fingers, and Burrow as well, by the way, is great at this. And it's, we got it. You know what I mean? We got it. And one of the things that you see a little bit, again, I'm not trying to pick on anybody, but I think it's accurate. Jalen, by the way, also obviously is a great leader in this stuff. But one of the things you see a little bit from Lamar in the postseason is some of these. The frustration.
Starting point is 01:11:10 It leaks out a little bit. Yeah. Like where it feels like he feels like, oh, my God, it's happening. Grabbing his head. Yeah. In a way that never happens in the regular season. And so like I do think that stuff really matters. And so, yeah, he's got to get better about it.
Starting point is 01:11:29 He's got to get better about it, no doubt about it. All right, let's go to Luca. So Luca signed us three year, 165 million extension with the Lakers over the weekend. We've all been waiting on that. So now that that's finally happened, do you think that it's time for L.A. to really press the gas on trying to succeed in the now? Well, listen, I said after they didn't resign Dorian Finney Smith that I thought there was a chance. I put Lucas signing the extension.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Was it 90% I have? at it, I dropped it to like 75%. So I do think this is good, important, real news. I also think that because he signed the extension, they are able to slow walk this a bit if they want to because Luke is not going anywhere over the next three years. And by the way, the next deal he'll sign to Monzae will be the league's first million dollar a game deal. Super Max, yeah. Well, was that what he was supposed to, was that what he was coming up on in Dallas? No, he was, no, not quite that.
Starting point is 01:12:36 He could have signed, no, the, he would have gotten the biggest deal ever in Dallas, but it wouldn't, we wouldn't have gotten that threshold yet. But three years from now, his contract will average more than 82 million a year. And there's 82 games. It's a really remarkable thing. Here is, though, my general Lakers take that no one, even the biggest anti-Lebron folks, haven't been able to explain to me where I'm wrong on this. I think it is overwhelmingly likely that over the lifetime of this extension, these next three years,
Starting point is 01:13:20 Luca never has a teammate better than LeBron is right now. Now listen, maybe they're going to get Janus and I'll be wrong. Maybe they're, you know, they have their eyes on Joker and I'll be wrong. But Shea ain't going anywhere and Tatum's not going anywhere. And now we're like running out of people who are better than LeBron right now. Okay. so I would if I were the Lakers prioritize trying to win right now
Starting point is 01:13:59 because if they think this is their last year with LeBron I do not know that Luke is going to have a better running mate than LeBron over these next three years now again if they have real intel that if they keep the cap sheet clean in two years Janice plans on just coming their free agency, then so be it. Then you know what?
Starting point is 01:14:25 If they, like, then see, you know, it's not like they're drawing dead this season. Like, they've got a nice roster. Then, then keep it flexible. But that's a hell of a gamble to take. Like a hell of a gamble to take. Do you, are you worried at all that there's like a, a rift potentially forming between Luca and LeBron or do you think that Luca knows that it's between? I don't think. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I don't think it's between. between Luca and LeBron at all. LeBron was Luca's all-time favorite player. Lucas the guy LeBron tried to sign to his shoe line. Luke, like, I don't think there is anything between them at all. I think there is some obvious frustration for LeBron, fair or not, that the Lakers are not pressing the gas even more on this season. Now, you can say that's unfair that they shouldn't, whatever.
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Starting point is 01:17:32 Thank you to seat geek. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?
Starting point is 01:17:45 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 01:17:57 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast.
Starting point is 01:18:17 We could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&Lenberg. Nell's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends
Starting point is 01:19:01 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs' tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening. at Roland Garris, every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Jenchian went. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface, because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Damanzet, let's run through the very end here because I got her go. Yeah, so Baker Mayfield came in into that number 50 in the NFL Top 100 list. He answers this year as the eighth best odds for MVP in Tampa Bay also just drafted Amika Agbuka, and they're getting gotten gotten back from his injury. What are your expectations for Baker this year?
Starting point is 01:20:47 Expectations are he has another really good season. him. Sealing is he is a frontline MVP candidate and they are a true contender in the NFC. Okay. Like, I think that's on the board. And here's the thing. In order for them to be a contender, he has to be an MVP candidate because that defense is not going to be great. They are going to have to outscore people.
Starting point is 01:21:11 But Baker had 40 touchdowns last year. He was a badass, man. Yeah, I mean, he was a badass last year. I'm so and he right now has, I want to make sure I'm right about this that I didn't miss it. Yeah, he's on the best non-rooky contract in the NFL. Three years, a hundred million bucks for Baker Mayfield. He is one more good season away from getting a $250 million deal. He's been that level of player.
Starting point is 01:21:49 And I'm just happy for him, man. Because the shit went so sideways on him. Yeah. And his teammates love him. He is true to himself. He's tough. He is a legit, awesome playoff performer. Like, this is the thing that people, I think, underrate with Baker.
Starting point is 01:22:13 He has played, I think, five career playoff games. I'm going to tell you what he did in him. first playoff game ever the cleveland browns go into pittsburgh hang 48 on him baker throws for two 603 touchdowns a 115 rating second playoff game ever his only ever bad playoff game he's against the two-time defending a fc champion uh oh i'm sorry he's against the defending super bowl champion chiefs and he's 23 to 37 for two hundred yards, one touch, and one pick, 75 rating. But he's in Arrowhead in round
Starting point is 01:22:52 two against the 2020 Chiefs. Like no shame in that. He then makes the playoffs with Tampa, his first playoff game ever against Philly. And again, it's so crazy. This is Philly. This game was in January
Starting point is 01:23:08 of 2024. Yeah, exactly. 32 to 9, three touchdowns, no picks, a 120 rating. The next game against Detroit, 350 yards, three touchdowns, two picks, a 95 rating, they lose by eight. And then the game against Washington last year, a wild one where he only throws 18 times, but he's 15 of 18 for a buck 85, two touchdowns, and a 147 rating. In his playoff career, he's got a 106 rating 12 touchdowns three picks.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Like, I mean, he's just been awesome in the beginning. rider it gets better. Yeah. So I, yeah, so I'm a baker believer through and through. Um, all right, uh, let's do these last two real quick. James Cook is holding in as he looks for his contract extension. Uh, after a few years of big dollar running backs paying off. It seemed like the debate was put to rest, but, uh, that conversation opens back up again.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Or do you think cook is just not that guy? Well, no, I just, I think cook's really good, but I, the bills have no cap space. he's under contract for $5 million. They know they can franchise tag him for not much. And even if you think he's awesome, do you think he's going to be awesome four years from now? So like, go ahead. Isn't he a huge part of their offense last year?
Starting point is 01:24:34 Like what? Huge. Buffalo. It's the last two years. Right. I just think they think he's going to blink, bro. I don't think it's that they, you know what I mean? I think that they think we'll give him a little more money,
Starting point is 01:24:47 but not long term. You know what I mean? Nothing long term. Or maybe a one year extension. But the report is he wants, you know, I don't know if it's what he wants. I don't want to get this wrong. But I saw four years, 40 million bouncing around, which is only 10 million a year. But I just think they think at that position, his style in two years, he could be done. And they just, it's just such a tough business for running backs, man.
Starting point is 01:25:12 It's just such a tough business for running backs. All right. Like, rate, subscribe, review to the pod. Let's get to some of these listener questions quickly, if we can, please. Justin says Fox is getting paid more than LeBron. Is he ever going to be better than the year 40, LeBron? How was his contract not holding back the spurs? Like LeBron's contract holds back to Lakers.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Yeah, I mean, that's the, so that's one of the reasons the LeBron contract discussion was so absurd. Like, no, people, again, he is, LeBron is demonstrably better than Fox. and most people, I'm not one of them, most people like the Fox contract a lot. I'm a little skeptical of it. Like that's, it's just so much of LeBron discourse, just so stupid. Indy ass. Oh, go ahead. You about the indie ass.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Nick, can you compare the first 21 playoff games from Patrick versus Tom Brady? I think people need to see just how great Pat has been in the playoffs. I can do that another time, but Pat's 17 and four in the postseason. and the all-time highest pass rating, all of the numbers are just bananas. Nobody's, no resume is going to compare well to that. There's just no question. All right, next.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Matt asks, is flat, is flatly, okay, is flatly your favorite word? Do I use it a lot? I must. I have some verbal tics like that. So maybe the, the, yeah, so I didn't know, but go ahead. uh dust it says nick i watched all of the m1 movies i don't know what m1 is mission impossible oh okay mission impossible movies after your colonial recommendation and love them how would you rank all eight all eight movies uh that you know that is
Starting point is 01:27:04 i will do that another time i i can't do that the very end of a show it deserves too much you know, it deserves an impossible quarter. Yeah, I mean, they're just, I mean, it's just the greatest film franchise ever. All right. Adam says that it's his 26th birthday. He got eight tickets to see the socks play the Royals in Fenway
Starting point is 01:27:32 with our seat geek code. How about that? Appreciate that. He said, much love from New Hampshire. Happy birthday also, Adam. All right, like rate, subscribe review. Appreciate you guys. I've got Colin in about an hour
Starting point is 01:27:43 and then first things first. at 3 o'clock. See you guys there. What's right? Oh, wait, wait, wait. Thank you to volume. Draft Kings, Blue Duck, Boost, Seat Geek, and of course, our friends at, did I get everybody? Did I leave anybody out? I think I got everybody. Thank you to everybody. Talk to you guys. Let's you guys. It's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 01:28:14 We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's, Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends
Starting point is 01:28:56 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs' tennis podcast for no nonsense of the biggest matches, the toughest players,
Starting point is 01:29:15 and the moments set to find Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French frame. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lernerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
Starting point is 01:29:36 What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast Point Game. playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying. You just understood.
Starting point is 01:29:52 That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come until he's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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