The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - NFL Week 16 Reaction: Chiefs LEAVING KC? Caleb & Bears THRILLER + Ravens on the ROPES | Nick Wright

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.  Nick Wright recaps Week 16 of the NFL season, starting with the New England Patriots and Drake Maye defeating the Baltimore Ravens and a banged up Lamar Jack...son. Then, Nick discusses the Chiefs reported plans to leave Kansas City for Kansas and what it means for his fandom. After, Nick weighs in on the craziest comebacks of the week, including Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears' OT win over the Green Bay Packers, and gives his predictions for the hotly contested NFC West between the Rams, 49ers, and Seahawks. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:23 some of our great producers at volume and blue duck about a real life scenario that i will tell where I, 40-something-year-old, longtime professional, grandfather, national television and podcast host, had to borrow money this weekend to gamble with from DeMonze. That happened. And so, and it was, just the way it should have gone, it was so close to being so great. And yet instead, it was just a toss and turn.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It was really right there. It really was right. You know what? How many stories have started like that? I was right there, but such is life. So that story coming later in today's show. Right now, we will get to straight the voicemail brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Draymond Green ejected himself after an argument with Steve Kerr.
Starting point is 00:04:30 The juice is still worth the squeeze with Draymond, but man, oh man. There's a lot less juice and the squeezing's getting a lot tougher and that you can kind of see how that could end. Anthony Joshua knocks out Jake Paul and I'll be totally honest here. We talked about that more. Did we talk about that at all? We did. On Thursday. We did.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Okay. Yeah. about the gambling opportunities from that. And that one came through. Now, the knockout rounds one through three did not at minus 130, but the knockout overall at minus 370 did. And two thoughts on that quickly. One is I was nervous watching that because I bet Joshua for knockout or TKO.
Starting point is 00:05:27 like but I would not so I would not have won the bet if it went to the cards which I did not think it was going to first few rounds obviously Jake's running around I didn't love that but I felt like but I also would not have won the bet if Jake got decued and I was worried with him like consistently like wrestling and falling that they might deque him but Joshua caught him with a clean right broke his jaw in multiple places and now I have to listen to people telling me, you know, how tough Jake Paul is. Listen, I don't doubt that he's tough. Doesn't change the fact that he is a clown. And the tongue wagging and the whole, he put himself in that position to get his jaw broken, got his jaw broken.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And people are like, wow, you can't question that guy. I question that guy plenty. I'm glad for Anthony Joshua. And then D.K. Metcalf. So he's been suspended for two games. That's going to cost him more than half a million dollars in salary. It might cost the Steelers. Now, the Steelers, if they win against the Broncos,
Starting point is 00:06:39 I'm sorry, against the Browns, the Steelers have three ways to make the playoffs. Way number one, they beat the Browns. They're in. Way number two, the Ravens lose to the Packers. Then the Steelers are in. number three is Steelers beat the Ravens in week 18. But D.K. Metcalf obviously won't be playing in those games. So that hurts them a bit. I still think they'll be able to beat the Browns.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I don't think it'll be a problem. So I just want to spend a moment here talking about what D.K. Metcalf did. So, and remind everybody, like, great subscribe review. It'd be a great Christmas present to us if we, as we inch closer to a quarter. of a million subscribers. We're right short of 230,000. We're not going to get to a quarter of a million by New Year's, as was our goal. If we could maybe approach it by the Super Bowl, it'd be great. We'd have to really pick up the numbers on YouTube, but much love to everyone who subscribes
Starting point is 00:07:43 already. If you're just watching or listening on iTunes or Spotify, I'm not subscribed on an audio platform and or on YouTube, it'd be greatly appreciated. So you know, de Monza, my general feeling on a few of these topics. One is this. There is almost no one more embarrassing to be around or be associated with than the full-grown post-college adult that goes to games to nastily taunt pro athletes. I don't like that guy in any way, shape, or form. I think that is embarrassing behavior.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I think it is shocking. Listen, I think booing is fine. I think making noise. I think the occasional well-timed wise crack, if it's actually funny and witty. I think there is a room for that in sports. But the 30-something-year-old, and I'm not saying that's what this guy was,
Starting point is 00:08:49 but just generically, the 30-something-year-old or older, drunk idiot that is just being obnoxious and making it uncomfortable for those around him, I don't like that person. I also have a controversial belief, which is society as a whole is better if people have a somewhat healthy fear. might get punched in the face I think that like there is the the furthest logical conclusion of this is I find no one more abhorrent
Starting point is 00:09:35 or a certain uphorrent might be the wrong word obnoxious than the streamer idiot kids that walk around malls and stuff pulling pranks messing with people in public messing with people with their own security because they know
Starting point is 00:09:52 I can't get punched in the face and I do think that there is a healthy self-policing that can be done of if folks know hey yeah maybe I'll be able to press charges
Starting point is 00:10:09 maybe I you know maybe it's going to ruin the other person's next few months but if I act in a certain manner I might get punched in the face not shot not stabbed not kicked in the head while I'm on the ground but a quick little jab the if everybody knows that that's on the board I think people will conduct themselves with more grace and courtesy and we've lost that a little bit
Starting point is 00:10:36 just a little bit we've become a little too I would say liberal with words that are being allowed while a little too conservative with punches that are allowed. Just my personal, that's not, and I don't mean that in a political sense. I mean, I think that old sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never harm me. Nursery rhyme did a little damage to a generation. I think that I, and so, and so, I do think there are, say it again. So they're moving like chihuahuas, you know. Yeah, I do think there is.
Starting point is 00:11:16 run away. Correct. I do think there is a, at times, certain things, you deserve to get punched. Like I, and have the facts come out about what was said? Like, D.K. was saying that he might have called him something that you never call a black man. He was saying that he just called D.K. by his original name and D.K. isn't like his original name. Um, so I think that. The video that I have seen with audio. He's just calling him his name. Makes it sound like the guy with the blue wig. is telling the truth. Yeah. That he didn't say anything about his wife, his mother, he didn't say a slur.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I think that's also a problem on DK's side, because I understand, like, the fan shouldn't be there heckling, but you also shouldn't put that on the fan that he said that, just because you wanted to go over there, punch him in the face, because you didn't like how you're, yeah. That's a whole other thing, which is the, if you tell me, and I don't, you know, the, if you tell me no matter what race, creed, ethnicity, religion, you are. somebody weaponized that against you in the form of a slur. That definitely checks the box for me of. You're allowed to punch that person.
Starting point is 00:12:23 100%. Right. Again, like I said, you can't shoot them, can't stab them. Can't if they're unconscious, kick them in the head. But one quick punch to the face, they deserve it. And I don't think a jury of your peers is going to hold you accountable. I think just like, you know what? I'm going to tell my story.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So I, now the flip side to that coin is claiming that happened when it didn't happen is an extra type of dirty. And that that is from the same branch of something you've heard me say before, which is folks' inability to take an L these days. Or folks' inability to be like, I screwed up. Like that. So again, I am, I want to be very careful here. because I also have not heard D.K. say that's what the guy said.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I think it was Ocho Sinko reported that D.K. told him. So I don't, again, I have, I don't know. I definitely don't know what was said definitively. I just know what the audio shows and the video shows seems to back up blue wig guy. Guy wouldn't have walked up there like that if he said that, I feel like. And I also feel like, I also feel like there is. is again, you can sometimes tell what was said by the reaction of folks around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And the, and so I, my body was like, oh my gosh. Like, yeah. It didn't seem like that. And again, so I would not, I don't have enough evidence yet to make my own full mental ruling, but I know which way I'm leaning. Okay. So now that I've laid all this out there, I want to I want to make this point, which is of course D.K. Metcalf got suspended two games. The NFL, there are very few black and white lines that the NFL in particular has to maintain.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And one of them is you can't hit the customers. And I feel more strongly about that honestly in the NFL than the NFL. even though the NBA, they're on top of the court, because this is, I think you have to get in such a different mind frame to play pro football. They're gladiators, and these are regular games. While you're on the field, I think you have to like cite that it needs to be really, really instilled that you can't take that into the stands. Because I think it can go massive dude. It's a massive dude who's in like a in that moment like warrior mentality. Like you know, the we've seen plenty of these guys who in their day to day life are just like soft spoken, quiet, you know, peaceful people.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But they have to get into. So I just think the size plus the mindset all of that, it becomes like legitimately dangerous. Not fake dangerous, legitimately dangerous. And so I As soon as it happened, I texted Bruin Wilde. I was like, he's going to be suspended a minimum of a game, maybe multiple. Now, maybe, and I know it voids his guarantees, I actually don't think that matters that much because he's still a really good player.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You only don't want your guarantee, like, the Steelers want to keep paying him. So that's not going to probably be a problem. Now, next year, if he's terrible or if he suffers a terrible injury, then those voided guarantees could matter, but that's my general take on the D.K. Metcalf situation. Now, we have an even more nuanced conversation to be had about my hometown Kansas City Chiefs and where they're going geographically.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And some of this is going to be boring. You know what? I shouldn't say it's going to be boring. Some of this is going to be just real geography, and some of it's going to be real, politics. And some of this is going to be municipal spending. But I'll make it all good. So go ahead. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called,
Starting point is 00:17:11 Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we, how do we, how do we, actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys. I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it
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Starting point is 00:21:31 All right. First, let me explain to people what it means. Kansas City, for all intents and purposes, when people hear about Kansas City, they are talking about the Missouri side. It is where I'm from. So weird kind of border rivalry, Missouri or Kansas. but I grew up one block off state line road. That is exactly what it sounds like. The line between Missouri and Kansas.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Now, confusingly and oddly, the Missouri side of state line road is Kansas City. The Kansas side of state line road is not Kansas City, Kansas. That's a different part. Like there is a small part of Kansas that touches state line road, but most of it that touches state line road, line roads like Leewood or Olathe or different municipalities.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Okay, you guys don't care about that. What you what does matter is this the chiefs are moving about 20 minutes west of where they currently play. So this has no impact on them being the Kansas City chiefs because they were in Kansas City proper. Yes, but they are still in the greater Kansas City area just like the San Francisco 49ers. playing Santa Clara, the New England Patriots, which people consider Boston's team, play in Foxborough, like this is, the Detroit Pistons used to play at the Palace at Auburn Hills. This happens. This is not a team moving the way teams move like Baltimore going to Cleveland, that type of,
Starting point is 00:23:08 or Cleveland going to Baltimore either. That's not what this is at all. Now, it does for me as a native Missouri and someone who's lived lived his whole life, my dad was a Kansas City Missouri firefighter. I lived in on the Missouri side. And whenever people say to me, oh, you're from Kansas, I correct them, say, no, I'm from Missouri. I hate that the chiefs are leaving. I don't hate that Missouri was not held hostage by pro sports owners.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And this is where we get into a little bit of tricky stuff. and then we will talk about the football piece of it because there is a real football piece of it. But this is, so teams, because the state of Kansas via star bonds and other stuff is going to pay more money for this chief stadium than any local government, which means taxpayers,
Starting point is 00:24:10 have paid for any stadium in the history of America. $1.8 billion. And, I have always believed that the call it 15 biggest cities in the country, all of the mayors slash governors of those states, should have gotten together a long time ago and said, folks, we need to have an agreement amongst ourselves. We are not going to pay for pro sports team stadiums.
Starting point is 00:24:49 because they want to be in our cities. So New York, L.A., Dallas, Houston, Chicago, San Francisco, your major markets, pro sports teams want to be there. The idea that they are going to leave is a bluff if you are a major, major market. So you should never pay, never pay if you're in one of those markets. if you're in a smaller market, it does get trickier because we have seen teams leave smaller markets, and one can't argue, and I have argued for a long time to use my hometown as a example, that the thing that makes Kansas City different from Des Moines, Iowa,
Starting point is 00:25:46 or Omaha, Nebraska, is that we have the chiefs and the Royals. That's it. We're a two-sport pro-sport city. And there is real economic and civic pride benefit to that. And Kansas City is not a huge market. So you can't just dare a team to leave the way L.A. could or New York could or Washington, D.C. could. because they might leave. Kansas City has lost teams before.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And so I don't think it while I understand the argument of there are better things to be paying taxpayer dollars for, that is correct. I agree with that in general. I also understand why if you're Memphis, losing the Grizzlies is scary as shit. and it might be worth taxpayer dollars to make sure they stay. And so I think the math is not the same for mid-market and small market teams as it is for major market teams. That's just my opinion.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I think I have data to back that up, but it's my gut feeling on having grown up in one of those places and feeling like I'm from somewhere and because we have pro sports teams. And so this doesn't change that for Kansas Cityans. They will still be the Kansas City Chiefs. Nobody, half of the country thought they played in Kansas already anyway. And I don't think, I understand the gut reaction people have, and I'm with you politically on this, that it is shameful. The public subsidies, we will give billion dollar sports teams. when I mean the city the state of Kansas has no public transportation none
Starting point is 00:27:53 don't get mad at me governor Laura Kelly like I'm sure there's a few bus routes but like there are there's there are things that money could be used for that probably would help a greater group of people I get that but I also do think that if you're in a city the size of one that a team might leave, losing that team can be devastating to the community. So I do think you have to weigh that. The problem for the chief that the chiefs were able to play into specifically is because they're on a state line, they could play one state against the other and get basically de Manzay the benefit that. you normally only get this type of i mean 1.8 billion it's the biggest public subsidy ever you normally
Starting point is 00:28:51 only get that something like that if you are threatening your fan base with we are moving like we are going to we the seattle supersonics are going to become the oklahoma city thunder because kansas city that is on a state line they were able to get the benefit without ever having to threaten they were never threatening to move to san antonio right just like we'll just jump across states right but you still get to play the states against each other and this has been a problem for border cities this is a bigger problem when it comes to business taxes and municipal funding and again this is the part that could be boring but i'm going to give a very simplistic of what's happened in my hometown because it's on a state line, you'll have a business,
Starting point is 00:29:51 not a sports team, a business that is based in Kansas. And then politicians in Missouri, because they want to say we added jobs to our community, will give that business insane tax breaks to move its headquarters 15 minutes east over to Missouri. And that business can then not pay the taxes it was once paying. It has no impact whatsoever actually on who has the jobs. You're not adding jobs to your community. You're just stealing them off the books of Kansas to add them to Missouri or Missouri to add in Kansas, vice versa. But it's the same human beings working there. And that has, you know, that's a problem for mayors and city councils of border cities all the time.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Like how do we, because it ends up being a, not a zero-sum game, a zero-sum for the overall community, but a huge win for the, a zero-sum for the employment of the overall community while being a huge win for the bottom line of corporations. But that's a sidebar. Now to the football piece of it, because here is the tangible effect. The chiefs are going to play in a dome stadium starting in 2031. Hey, that's awesome. I don't know how you feel about that.
Starting point is 00:31:16 That's awesome. I love the domes. I hate it. You needed the snow games, that real effect of the weather? Yeah, I like that. Patrick Jones is going to be lightened up in there, man. So, this one's the other cornerback. Here's that, so very short term, very selfish.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I like the dome. for Patrick's late 30s. Oh, and then the new guy is going to be playing in the dome the whole time? So if we are just talking about maximizing like Mahomes' career, having the fact that his age, 35 and older seasons will be in a dome is probably good. Okay? that's probably good. That to me is not worth the trade-off of football slowly but surely eliminating weather as a component.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Like I think we are moving towards a reality of in a decade, there are maybe three or four stadiums in the country where weather plays a part, and I don't like that for football. I think football is a game made to be played in the elements. I don't mind domes in warm weather places because it feels like that's actually, like the elements aren't going to be a big issue there anyway. so it allows you to host more events fine. And I don't mind the dome in Minnesota,
Starting point is 00:33:21 only because that specific place can get so, maybe it's just because I'm used to it, but it can get so much snow that they've like canceled games. But I guess Buffalo, so it's probably just because I'm used to it. But I don't like football removing the elements and the idea that because they build this stadium, Kansas City is going to get a bunch of Super Bowls is just not true.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I think they will probably get won and people will complain about the Super Bowl being in Kansas City. And you know what? They should. Because the Super Bowl should not be in Kansas City. Super Bowl shouldn't, I'm from there. I love it. Super Bowl should not have ever been in Minneapolis. It shouldn't have ever been in Indianapolis. It shouldn't be in Kansas City. Super Bowl should be. What does it need to be in New Orleans or wait, what happened? New Orleans, Miami, Vegas, L.A. That's where the Super Bowl is. Elitist. Okay. No. Cities, it's, yeah, I guess. I mean, New Orleans isn't a big market. It's just awesome. Yeah. And the, and so I think we have seen cities that can do, and I'd be honestly okay with L.A. not being included. I don't. I be fine with it just being Vegas, Miami, New Orleans. Like that being the rotation.
Starting point is 00:34:49 You can make the argument for Phoenix. But I just think they're not, the idea that Kansas City is, because they're at this, is going to be a part of a Super Bowl rotation, that's not going to happen. And it's not going to be every 10 years, the biggest sporting event in the country headquarters in Wyandotte County in February. It's just not happening. But my biggest thing is on the field, I don't like, I like that weather matters. And I like that the Buffalo and Kansas City and Baltimore and Pittsburgh and New England
Starting point is 00:35:35 have to be able to play in multiple settings. So yes, I think it will be. good for the end of, you know, the last quarter of Patrick's career. But it's to me a bit of a bummer. And the other bummer is this. You're going to go from 80,000 seats to about 68,000. And I'm going to be very interested. And I really hope that they, that they find a way. Because I think the tailgating will be great no matter what. One thing Clark Hunt said yesterday, that's true, is parking lots don't tailgate people do that's correct i think the tailgating pregame stuff i trust they will make sure that stays sacrosanct because when like if there's ever a reason to go to a
Starting point is 00:36:26 NFL game going to arrowhead to tailgate before the game is one of the greatest things in the NFL and i think that will stay but i wonder if they're going to be able like and the but the other thing clark said is seats and concrete don't make noise fans do That is true. But certain stadiums are more conducive for noise than others. And Arrowhead has been the loudest open-air stadium in the country forever. And I just hope they are able to recreate that. Is it going to have a new name?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Well, it's still going to be Arrowhead. I would imagine they'll still call it Arrowhead. They've already kind of sold on that because it's technically GE-H-A-Field at Arrowhead. And I've never totally understood naming rights sponsorships. Like, I don't know that anyone has paid more attention to the Can City Chiefs. I really don't know that anyone in the world has paid more attention to the Can City Chiefs than me. Certainly, since the, because the stadiums don't even name that for like five years of the field.
Starting point is 00:37:40 In that time, Twitter. And I still don't, but I still don't. know what G-E-H-A is. Yeah. You were like, I have no idea. I have no clue what the, I don't know. Do they sell insurance? Is it, are they a con, I have no, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So it's always arrowhead to me. But that's the positive and the negative. That's what it is. Now, we'll Kansas City get a final four? Maybe. Like, will they're, like, having a domed stadium, there are benefits for it. GHEA is government employees health association.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Still don't know what it means. Does that mean they, does that mean they compete with the company that Gronk advertises for? So it is. They're the competitors of Gronk's company. What's that, what's the Grunk insurance company where he's like, I wasn't in the military,
Starting point is 00:38:44 but my granddad was. It's USA. Okay, so G-E-H-A and USAA are competitors. All right, good for them. Do you think there's, I'm sorry, just cut you off. Do you think there's going to be any teams that hold out on this open-air stadium closed team? Like, could you see Green Bay being like the last team with an open stadium in 30 years? Well, Buffalo's building a new stadium.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And Buffalo's new stadium doesn't have a roof, right? Fact-check me on that. Okay. I'm pretty sure it does. Yeah. Yeah. And it's Buffalo Yeah, it's Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And it's Buffalo. But I, I don't know. The Chiefs playing in a dome feels weird to me. I'm sure I get used to it. And if old Mahomes is just lighting people up, maybe I'll be fine with it. But. Maybe because I'm not a savant and like a football historian.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I just don't see why you would want, Like, and this is, like, I hear a lot of people that's their take. They want there to be snow. They inclement weather. Why would you not just want them to perform to their best ability like any other sport? Like, I feel like there's no other sport. Because football's an outdoor sport. It's because that's, so that's where.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Go ahead. I'm sorry. I disagree with you. No, what you're saying, a lot of people feel that way. It just, it just depends on how you look at it. I look at being great at football. intrinsically meaning that you can have different types of game plans and different abilities in different weather because I think that is part of building a team.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I think part of building a team is teaching them how to exploit different weather conditions. I think that is as intrinsic to the game as kick returning. Like that's part of it. And I think removing it, people, a lot of people feel like, Oh, you remove it and that then makes it more pure. I feel like it makes it less pure. And I understand in basketball that doesn't exist. Hockey.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Like soccer? Like, I mean, I don't know if they play. Soccer, it does. They play soccer in the snow. Or like light snow. They obviously can play in like heavy rain. That's fair. But the soccer's an outdoor sport and being able to handle heat is a bigger thing. in soccer.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Like, um... Yeah. Yeah. The... Yeah. Yeah. I guess I'm always looking for the light show. I've seen these games.
Starting point is 00:41:27 No, that's fair. It's going to be a slower game. That's the way the NFL's moving. That's, it just bums me out. I mean, but again, I'm a grand paw now. And I'm sorry to those historians that stuff has changed.
Starting point is 00:41:39 No, it's fine. I just so many of like the great moments in NFL history are playoff games in the elements. And that'll be a bummer for me. But, you know, nothing to cry about. I just, I don't love it. That to me matters a lot more than the fact that they're moving 20 minutes west across state lines. Want to know where I bet on sports during the holiday season, Hard Rock bet.
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Starting point is 00:43:51 So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
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Starting point is 00:47:33 Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I Heart Women's Sports. All right, DeMonse. Let's get to Sunday night football and some of the other games. Ravens hanging by a thread. Drake May was looking poor in the first half. Rallied.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Lamar Jackson came out of the game with, I think, like, a rib-endry. We lost the game. Now we have a 7% chance of making the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. Who do you think this is bigger off? The Ravens are Patriots, I think. Well, listen, I think you say, let me start with the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And what was, I'm trying to remember, because there was a clip from last week's show. Was it about Lamar? What was the clip? Maybe the producers saw it as well. There is a clip of, I did some take that I don't even know if DeMonze agreed with. But it was massively aggregated. And it was aggregated with DeMonsei and I split screen. And I always find this funny because I wasn't, do you guys remember what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Was it my one? Was it last week? from it was from Thursday's show. I can't even remember what we talked about on Thursday. But regardless. Lamar's health, Nyquil and sickness and stuff. But there was something else other than that probably. That's what I'm trying to remember what our,
Starting point is 00:48:54 if I had our rundown from last week in front of me, I could, I could think of it. I was trying to think if it's Lamar, because the reason I thought of that is it might happen again this week. But, uh, the, let's start with the Patriots. I think that was a growing up moment for Drake. I think that Drake was playing one of his worst games of the year. And for him to rally the way he did and make the, I mean, he obviously had the one great deep pass that was robbed from him on the Miss DPI, but didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:49:33 He had already, the touchdown pass he threw to the front corner of the end zone. Yeah. Was unbelievable. I thought that was great. And I think that on top of that, hold on. I think Paul just texted to me. Oh, this is what it was.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Sorry. It was the, thank you, Paul. It was the wimby stuff. It was me saying, I don't need to be lectured by a 20-year-old French kid. That people got super mad at that take, and you're just sitting there, like, listening. Like, it's just super funny.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Thank you, Paul. The, no, the people got mad at, I think my Lamar takes from TV, but sorry, I'm interrupting myself. I thought the Drake May, touchdown pass was unbuilt, the bomb was unbelievable. The fourth and two play,
Starting point is 00:50:30 which kept them alive to go win the game. It was just a pass to the sideline, but it was an absolute laser. that I thought was going to be knocked down. He was excellent. And Drake May's the real deal. Yeah. He is the real deal.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You can't deny that at this point. And the Patriots, they had to win that game because while I thought sometimes the schedule stuff got a little overblown, if they had played that soft schedule and then lost to Buffalo and Baltimore, it'd be like, okay. You know what I mean? Who are we? Really? Yeah. They're ahead of schedule. They're better than all the JV teams,
Starting point is 00:51:12 but they're not an A-lister. And I think they proved their A-listers. And so I think that is, that's the Patriots piece of it. And they've got... They got their quarterback. The guy looks like, I think that guy's going to be in the league
Starting point is 00:51:27 for a really, really long time. Great? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I... Solid. Man, I think he... is just going to be a top five quarterback moving forward. He's legit.
Starting point is 00:51:43 He is without a doubt, legit. And then you get to the Ravens. And there's a lot here. They blew another big lead. Everyone's blaming Harbaugh. They didn't give the ball to, they didn't have Derek Henry on the field for their last two possessions. people are understandably blaming Harbaugh. Another, can I call it without people freaking out,
Starting point is 00:52:16 weird injury thing with Lamar? I do feel strongly that he could have came back in the game. Watching the, like, and it's a rib injury. I do think he could have come back in that game. And I don't like doing that or like being like, because I don't know what the guy was feeling. But I don't know. Like he was moving around.
Starting point is 00:52:34 He's like on the side. Like I, like, I've had. had a rib injury before and i just i don't know i felt like he could have kept especially in that situation we have the game we just need you to manage but i so listen i hate that you're the one that said that instead of me because and i want this if this gets aggregated people to understand this is damonze's favorite team and the guy he's ridden with more than anybody yeah but i was shocked he didn't go back in and when he didn't go back in let me rephrase that.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I was not shocked he didn't go back in. We didn't go back in. I assumed we were going to get the news yesterday that he broke his ribs, that he had cracked ribs, that even though the hit didn't, the knee didn't look that bad, but you never know how that is. And so I just assumed like, oh, man, there's, like, he's, he probably isn't going to play this.
Starting point is 00:53:36 coming week and that's it's a wrap and when harbaugh came out yesterday and said it's just a bad contusion and he's day to day i was stunned now again it's weird because lamar is obviously tough and obviously he's plays he cares he's also like a type of quay a hundred percent so i so that's why I'm saying it's just another weird injury thing with Lamar where now he has suffered a hamstring injury that nobody saw when it happened but obviously was a real one like a not real as opposed to real versus fake I should have said a significant one to where he missed multiple games including a game after a buy that his coach thought he would be back for and then had knee ankle toe injuries that made him mispractice but not miss any games but
Starting point is 00:54:41 he then wasn't effective in the games then his you know annual december cold had a miss practice and now what looked like a relatively banal play knocked him out for the most critical half of their season basically playing an elimination game it's just weird and i'm not trying to be like kg with my analysis here i'm not trying to hint at anything but i'm also not going to act like it's not weird and it's very, very hard not to go to the other quarterbacks in Lamar's tax bracket and echelon and not ask yourself, do we think they would have, an injury that the next day their coach calls day to day and expects them, play the next week that we wouldn't have seen them back on the field at least trying seeing giving it a go and then maybe okay this isn't going to work i don't know i feel like you would have and so
Starting point is 00:56:10 it's just odd and i go back to baltimore see like so with the situation harball whatever it is let me tweak that there you go i don't because i said this a few weeks ago i don't think you wants out I think he might be over Harbaugh. And that this has run its course. And that Lamar is resigned to the fact that this is a lost season. And it is a lost season. And this was the biggest thing I said yesterday on TV that I think people, maybe took issue with, but again, we won't know for five years, but I think this will age well.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I am not saying Lamar will never make or win a Super Bowl. What I am saying is, I think when his career is over, we will look at the best chances he had were these past three years. They were the solitary Super Bowl favorite at multiple points. in each of the last three seasons. They were the Super Bowl preseason favorite this year. And to come out of these three years with two total playoff victories, come out of the 2020s so far,
Starting point is 00:57:48 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 with two total playoff victories is stunning. And now I think you... Start a new era with a new head coach. Demonset, before we move on to the Pittsburgh side of it, I want to give you some news. Zay Flowers, named to the Pro Bowl this morning. Now, go ahead. I know you have a potential Zay Flowers take.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Just run straight, ma'am. Please just run straight and just be a little bit tighter with the football. I just think that there have been a couple of big situations and the biggest point of the season. I think the guy is loose with the football. He's trying to play like backyard football or something, making these cuts backwards.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And that's not like the only time that I've seen him do that. But just in the bigger instances, it's like, dude, just be tired of with the football. Don't try to get it all in one play to go down or something. It's just kind of frustrated to see sometimes. And he has said he was going to do that. Yeah. And then he has.
Starting point is 00:59:01 not done that. He's loose. Just loose. And it's the end. He doesn't fumble a lot, but you remember the fumbles. Yeah. You're they you remember there big moments. All right. This also got, you know, there's extra bad for Baltimore because of Pittsburgh's great win earlier in the day. I know you have a question about that. What'd you think of the end of that game, Pittsburgh, Detroit? So I thought it couple things. One is this. You're the Detroit Lions with Dan the man Campbell. You're biting
Starting point is 00:59:38 kneecaps. You have first and goal from the one with 22 seconds and a timeout. Run the ball. Run the ball. You ran a little fancy little pick play. You got OPI. Like you're supposed to be this big, strong, tough smash mouth team. Run game was getting cooked that day. No, I understand. It's the one yard line. I get it. But you're the one yard line. Um, So that's first point. That was on the first OPI. The second OPI, I don't know if I love that OPI call.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I also don't think that should have mattered because Amman Rae St. Brown, by any definition ever, was short of the end zone, on fourth down, and here's the critical piece, had his momentum stop. his forward progress was stopped. Now, they didn't blow it dead, but that was asinine. Had there not been a called OPI,
Starting point is 01:00:43 and that Amonara St. Brown lateral, which happened three seconds and five yards after he was first hit when he was pushed backwards, had they not said that play was blown dead, that would have been an outrage. Because the reason you know his forward momentum was stopped, and everyone thought the play was over, was the other Steelers could have gone up and hit him as well.
Starting point is 01:01:10 There were two pushing him, but they didn't because they knew obviously that play was supposed to be over. So I didn't think Detroit got screwed. I do think Pittsburgh, where I have to give him credit, DeMonsei is they're playing their best ball. Rogers is playing his best ball. And here is the important thing for Pittsburgh. If you beat the Browns,
Starting point is 01:01:34 your old-ass, team with your old-ass quarterback, you can give yourselves a buy week. That's super valuable because you beat the Browns and week 18 is truly wholly and entirely meaningless for you. You will have locked up the four seed. You will not be able to improve your seed and you can just rest Rogers, rest whomever else. D.K. is going to be resting either way. And you'll be at home for two weeks leading into the playoffs, which is a home game.
Starting point is 01:02:15 So Steelers beat the Browns, and they all of a sudden, depending on who they draw, are live. Now, I don't think they're live against Buffalo, but Buffalo's not guaranteed to be the five-seat. and so that's a great weekend for Pittsburgh. All right, let's go on to the other game. Actually, before we do that, DeMonsei, let me do this. You ever notice how everything keeps going up, rent's going up, streaming services going up, your favorite burrito spot, thinks Salsa should cost extra.
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Starting point is 01:03:19 We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas, we invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a podcast. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 01:03:33 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. We could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title. Oh, wow. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 01:04:53 and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. We're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real.
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Starting point is 01:07:26 I heart women's sports. All right. Let's keep going with these other games. Caleb Williams and the comeback over Green Bay. I saw some beautiful stuff from this guy over the weekend. Jordan Love got knocked out of the game with, I think, a concussion. It didn't matter, though, because Willis came in and he was cooking, too, so I think there's still a solid win. Cook the onside kick in overtime, some dots into the end zone.
Starting point is 01:07:49 What should Bears' fans' expectations be at this point of the season? Well, listen, that was. was an unbelievable win and post onside kick Caleb was unreal the fourth down throw to keep the game alive was perfect the overtime touchdown pass was perfect now you do have to acknowledge all of Caleb's great moments happened after an onside kick and that means by definition, they were incredibly lucky that they had a chance for those to happen. Like onside kicks just, you cover 10% of them. And so, but that's football.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Like that, the, sometimes you need that little opening to redeem yourself. And now the bears are locked into the playoffs, feeling great. and I think feeling like we can play better because Caleb's highs have been unbelievable, but he hasn't been consistent yet. That is like a fair critique. Is it fair to say that he hasn't been like really bad either though? Like I feel like he's kind of right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Either mid to great. I think that's a great way to put it. He has had high highs and high lows. Right. but he has not had enough like last year solid
Starting point is 01:09:27 yeah fair so and he just hasn't been consistent enough but you see it and and if you're you mentioned Malik Willis I want to say something about him and Matt before like Malik Willis has been excellent as a backup for them
Starting point is 01:09:44 he might get a look somewhere next year because of this um and There is a real benefit to now having the track record that Matt LaFleur built with Malik Willis, which is you should always have a good backup quarterback now because quarterbacks that are trying to rebuild their value will want to go to Green Bay. And he clearly can coach these guys up. So that has like a real long-term impact and effect.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I'm checking right now. I think Malik Willis is a free agent after this year. Yeah, because he was still on his rookie deal. So Malik Willis could be looking at like one of those one year, $10, $12 million deals from a team that stopgap situation. Like could the Colts sign him while they're waiting? on Daniel Jones to recover, something like that. Like, I think that's on the board.
Starting point is 01:10:55 So I think that is interesting. I also think that because of Detroit's loss, Green Bay is going to be fine, but the injuries are just piling up on them. And they're not, here's the scenario for the lions to get in and the Packers to be out is, Very simple. The Packers have to lose out and the Lions have to win out. Now, that's not outrageous when there's only two games left.
Starting point is 01:11:32 It would mean the Packers have to lose to Baltimore and to Minnesota. Two seven and eight disappointing teams. I know in our head one team's way better than the other, but they're not. So the Packers would have to lose to Baltimore. Baltimore and in Minnesota, and the Lions would have to beat Minnesota and Chicago in the final week of the year. So Packers aren't in, but it would take a disaster, and that also means lions are basically out. All right, let's talk about my favorite game of the weekend, DeMonte. So your Jags and Trevor Lawrence went and hung 34 on that top rated defense in Denver.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Nobody's believed in this team except for you through and through. are you ready to take a victory lap or are your sights higher for them in the postseason? Sites are higher, man. Let's roll. Trevor's playing out of his mind. Nobody has looked good against that Denver defense. Nobody. And Trevor carved them up.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Yeah. And they now, they have a sneak, not sneaky, but they have a, a pass. to the one seed. So let me tell you, explain what it is. They have to win out, obviously. Who do they play? They are in indie, which just saw essentially their season end last night,
Starting point is 01:13:06 and home for the Titans. Two and O, no problem. So if they do that, we go to the old athletic playoff, Victor, if they go 2 and 0, they have a 30% chance of the 3 seed, a 52% chance of the 2 seed, and a 18% chance of the 1 seed. So how do they get the 1 seed? Again, this part's pretty simple as well.
Starting point is 01:13:44 The Broncos are going to beat the Chiefs. we can't ask for the Broncos to beat the Chiefs to beat the Broncos. But if the Broncos then lose to the Chargers in week 18, then what the Jags would need to be the one seed is the Patriots to lose. It's hard. I'm not going to lie. Either to the Jets or the Dolphins. and then so what the what the Jags need is the Patriots and
Starting point is 01:14:20 Broncos to lose at least once and they'll be the one seed what I am more interested in is how do they get the two seed because I think that's more realistic I think it's the same thing actually they need the
Starting point is 01:14:38 they for them to get the two seed they need the Patriots to lose once. Wait. Is that not right? Hold on. Maybe I'm confused here. Let me, let the, I might be confused on this one because this says
Starting point is 01:15:01 the more likely if the Patriots win. Oh, because they get the, they have the tiebreaker with New England. And hold on. Is this correct? I have to look this up real quick. Sorry, I care about the Jags. I'm the only person.
Starting point is 01:15:14 The they do have they they would have the tiebreaker with New England but New England I'm so confused by this right now hold on let me let me figure this out real quick oh hold on you know what this is bad podcasting I'm not doing the regardless they're in great shape and Trevor's playing great and Liam Cohen's been awesome There's just no way around any of it. If they go on a deep playoff run, do you think it would ease the pain of your chief season this year? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Absolutely. Can you imagine? I got to tell you. Just like right back up. How obnoxious I'm going to be if Trevor makes a Super Bowl before Lamar and Josh. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, my goodness gracious.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Oh. All right, let's talk Thursday night football quick. So, yeah, that game, Seahawks ended up pulling out, pulling out the comeback. Last night, 49ers made sure we didn't forget about them, and they beat the crap out of the Colts. I got to be honest, I turned that game off the Seahawks. Was it Seahawks Rams? Darnold threw the pick. Oh, and they were up 16 and the fourth.
Starting point is 01:16:38 It was like 30, 14, yeah, 30 to 14 and nine minutes left. They came back. Yeah. How are we feeling about the NFC? Yeah. Listen, I think the Rams are the best team. But that's a devastating loss. And
Starting point is 01:16:51 Darnold was awesome in overtime. And maybe that'll be a fork in the road moment for him. But every concern you had about Darnold going into that game, he lived up to those concerns for the first three and a half quarters. Seattle is such an excellent team. They were able to overcome it. Rashid Shaheed's punt return was great. and but I still think the Rams are the best team
Starting point is 01:17:22 and the Niners credit to Shanahan credit to Purdy who was great last night again every the somehow we're going to have another I'm going to be drawn into more Brock Purdy arguments even though we saw Mac Jones step in for him and be a B plus version of him which proved everything
Starting point is 01:17:41 I always said about that offense and that team but whatever it's just my destiny to have to always are to have to argue about the 49ers quarterback, be proven right through an odd real-life NFL experiment and then have folks pretend that it's just coincidence, that everything I said would happen is exactly what happened. But Purdy was excellent. I don't think the Niners defense is good enough for a playoff run,
Starting point is 01:18:06 but their offense is elite right now. So I would power rank at Rams Seahawks Niners. What is interesting, though, is the Seahawks and Niners are the teams that control their own destiny for a one seed and the Rams ability. Because the Seahawks have two games left. Bears, Niners. If they win both, they get the one seed and the buy.
Starting point is 01:18:33 The Niners have two games left. I'm sorry, I said that wrong, by the way. The Niners' two games left are Bears Seahawks. If they win both of those games, they get the one seed, they get the buy. The Seahawks have two games left, Panthers, Niners. If they win both those games, they get the one seed, they get the buy. For the Rams to get the one seed, they need a very specific set of things to happen. Obviously, they have to go 2 and O.
Starting point is 01:19:06 They play Falcons Cardinals. And then their smoothness. path would be the Panthers beating the Seahawks and then the Seahawks beating the Bears, but then they also need the Bears not to... Seahawks beating the Niners is the last thing. I apologize. I'm explaining this poorly. I'm going to try again.
Starting point is 01:19:42 For the Rams to be the one seed, they need to go 2 and 0. And then their easiest path would be, Panthers beat the Seahawks, Seahawks beat the Niners, and then either the Bears lose to the Lions or the Bears lose to the Niners. So they need somehow, essentially, if the Rams do, the Bears, Seahawks, and 49ers,
Starting point is 01:20:16 to all lose at least once, which is tricky because they play each other. And so the Rams ability to get the one seat is quite slim, and I think that matters because, again, weather matters. They would have been in SOFi, they'd had the rest. So I think they're the best team, but that loss is devastating to them. And I still can't believe they lost the game the way they did.
Starting point is 01:20:45 All right, let me quickly go through these other games. Eagles beat the commanders and Marcus Marriota slash Josh Johnson. Saquan looked great. Jalen played really well. Eagles big test this weekend against Buffalo. Panthers beat the Bucks in a game. I can't, I'm not going to explain all the ends and outs of it. The short version is this.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Given the way Sunday football went, had Baker not thrown that interception, I would have taken the money that DeMonse had loaned me earlier in the day that I talked about earlier and spun it into $41,000. That is not an exaggeration. That is not a, oh, you needed all these things to happen. It's very simple. Had the Bucks won that game, thanks to a very savvy bet I placed with our friends at
Starting point is 01:21:57 hard rock i would have hit a nice little christmas forty one thousand dollar bonus are you done and baker through one of the worst picks of them was a really bad pick and he was like peeking or he was peaking around his old lineman i can't i can't talk about i can't talk about bills beat the browns 2320 in a game josh allen didn't have to do anything which is crazy because all i hear about is how josh allen has no help i don't know having the freaking rushing champion james cook seems like a little bit of help. But what do I know there? Chargers beat the Cowboys in a game.
Starting point is 01:22:33 I got dead wrong. Justin Herbert played great. I think, you know, he was just named to the Pro Bowl, by the way. It's Josh Allen Drink May, Justin Herbert. Shout out Herbert. Texans beat the Raiders in a game that nobody watched, but the Texans looked awful. And the Texans offense has been shaky all year long, all year. Bengals beat the Dolphins 4521.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Quinn Yor is not really an NFL quarterback. and the Bengals ripped up the Dolphins defense. Vikings beat the Jets 16, 13 in the game. I didn't spend a second watching, but I saw Jackson Dart through for 33 yards and played the whole game. That seems weird. Saints played the whole game, DeMonsay. Saints beat the Jets 29 to 6.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Tyler Shuck continues to play well, and Falcons beat the Cardinals 26 to 19 in a game that happened, but I have no proof of it. All right. Thank you to everybody. We're going to step aside here. We have a week 17 gambling show coming to you tomorrow. We will bring that to you guys tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:23:34 We're going to have the firing into these lines early in the week. See how we do. We'll do that tomorrow. Thank you to Volume. And Blue Duck. Thank you to Hard Rock Bet, Boost, and Zen. Talk to you guys tomorrow for the gambling show. What's right?
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