The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - NFL Week 2 Reaction: Chiefs IN TROUBLE? Baker & Buccaneers BUZZING! Burrow INJURED | Nick Wright

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Nick Wright breaks down Week 2 of the NFL season, starting with the Monday night doubleheader where Baker Mayfield's Tampa Bay Buccaneers stunned CJ Stroud's Houston Texans as well as Justin Herbert's Los Angeles Chargers defeating Geno Smith and the Las Vegas Raiders. Then, Nick discusses Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and his Kansas City Chiefs losing to Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles in their Super Bowl rematch, and how the Tush Push has gotten out of control. After, Nick touches on Joe Burrow’s injury for the Cincinnati Bengals, Caleb Williams’ stock plummeting with the Chicago Bears, and a crazy Dallas Cowboys win. Later, Nick and Damonza dive into quick hitters on teams around the league and answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but for our listeners because the great Nick Shulman, the what's right boxing expert analyst correspondent, did an hour with us last week and gave us every single reason to bet Terrence Bud Crawford in an upset, and Terrence Bud Crawford dominated that fight, and we were rolling. And even early Saturday after, really is just the chiefs game.

Like, what am I talking? like everything it's just cheap's game i got a little i feel unlucky with my five picks where i ended up going two and three this weekend one of the losses was the jags plus three and a half they lost by four in a game they gave away just card in total jagsy and fashion gave away and another loss was Arizona laying six and a half. They're up 27 to 8 late in the game. Like late, late in the game, Kyler throws a pick. They allow a touchdown. They allow what might be the only successful onside kick of the year. And all of a sudden, not only do they not cover, they almost lost the game outright, but as the kids say, we move, we're going to be okay. We'll get

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Bad couple first few weeks for the skinny football players out there. Xavier Worthy's got his shoulder popped out. Devante Smith looked like he might have gotten hurt in the Chiefs game and Jaden Daniels dealing with a knee sprain. That is certainly something to monitor. It is, you know, fortunately for him, unfortunately for the rest of the league, not even close to the most dire of the quarterback. injuries this weekend. We'll get to that. Crawford defeats Canello and gives himself a real

argument that if you want to call him the best pound for pound fighter of your lifetime, you can make that case now. He's 42 and 0. He basically jumped three weight classes to beat Canello and it was an all-timer. And I didn't think the fight was as close as the judges did. And then if I wasn't having a tough enough week, and I got to be careful, you know, I'm not trying to take shots at the NFL. But NFL social media tweeting out, never a doubt on what was the backbreaking touchdown for the Eagles over the Chiefs felt pointed and felt personal. I'm just going to be honest with you. Now, you can say that is egotistical. I don't think it is.

I think that was very niche. That's niche right there. Well, whatever it is, I didn't love it. I got to tell you, I didn't love it, and it felt like a low blow. Now, maybe I'm just a little on tilt because of what happened in Chief's Eagles. So, de Manzay, let's not delay anymore. Let's get right into it. Go ahead.

Yeah, so the Super Bowl rematch was rough for Chiefs fans and you. So there's a few things going on. The Tush Push is still alive and well. My Holmes is struggling to throw the ball deep, it would seem. And him and Kelsey have had a few miscues that have potentially cost them games. Where would you like to start? Okay. So we're going to start with the Chief's side of things.

And then we'll get into the Eagles. and then we will do a tush push discussion, okay? So I cannot, and producers tell me if the mic sounds a little better now. I am not going to sit here and act like everything's fine with the chiefs right now. It isn't. There are some, I want to focus on

the concerning things that have occurred in both games. Okay, so for instance, week one, the secondary, which has been a strength of this team, looked hugely problematic against Herbert and the Chargers. Week two, I thought the secondary looked really good, right? So, like, that's one good game, one bad game. I'm not focusing on that.

Here is what through two weeks looks problematic, and I don't know where the solve for it is. The Chief's running game is as inept right now as it's ever been since Patrick's been there. Pacheco sadly, just does not look like the same player he was before he broke his leg. And what's odd about it is his biggest problem through two weeks doesn't seem to be exploded. it seems to be vision and hitting the right hole you wouldn't think that is related to a lower body injury but he just hasn't been effective kareem hunt is who he is he if you need one yard more way more often than not he will get it for you but he has no chance of getting you 10 and they brought in elijah mitchell nothing's happened there they drafted breschard smith in the

I think seventh round. He's a seventh round rookie. Like they just right now don't have the horses in the running back room. And that is a spot that I would not at all hate for them to be active on in the trade market. I think we have, there has been a lot of discussion of should the chiefs trade for Tyree Kill. The wide receivers are coming back. Okay. If I were doing a trade with Miami, I might be equally, if not more interested in Devon A. Chan. Like, I think there are, running backs will be and should be available, and that might be a spot that they have to bite the bullet and spend some draft capital via trade on.

So that's one piece. And here's another one. as good as Josh Simmons has been at the left tackle spot, Patrick still doesn't feel totally comfortable in his protection. Now, some of that's been, the left guard spot's been really problematic, but Creed's great, Trey's great, Simmons is really good, Joanne Taylor when he's not committing penalties is fine, and Patrick just seems like he doesn't trust it right now. and I am as confident in Patrick Mahomes as any player that's ever played in the league

that he will figure stuff out and there have been times this season where it has felt like he's out there I don't want to say by himself but nobody can get open they can't run the ball which has forced him to and this is the part of the season that I have liked the absolute least it has forced him to activate playoff running Mahomes in weeks one and two, and I despise that because it obviously it puts him in jeopardy, which is the biggest concern. But the other thing is one of the reasons he has had the postseason success that he's had, one of the reasons he has been so much more dynamic and effective,

statistically and from a winning perspective on a per game basis than any other quarterback in the history of the league come the postseason is because every single postseason, he adds a huge weapon to his game that is not there in the regular season, which is the quarterback runs, the scrambles. And if he's using that during the regular season, it has just multiple concerns. one is he can get banged up.

Another is you're not getting that auto postseason boost. Like Josh Allen and Lamar are unbelievable runners at the quarterback position. They do it starting in week one and never stop. So it doesn't add an element to their game come the playoffs. It has for Patrick. And the last, listen, issue on offense is the greatest tight end in the history of the league has had a real really rough two weeks. There's no way around it. Third play of the season, I thought it was Xavier's mistake. He says it was his mistake that he ran the wrong depth of his route and Xavier's hurt.

Later in that game, he and Patrick aren't on quite the same page when they're down nine about to score. They don't connect on what would have been a touchdown. And then obviously the Eagles game, they're about to take the lead. and he bibles a pass and it turns into a game-changing interception. That's all highly, it's been highly damaging. I don't know if it's yet highly concerning, but it's highly damaging, okay? So there is that piece of it. On the defensive side of the ball, the only complaint I have after week two is they,

cannot seem to get pressure without sending a blitz. Like, if they rush four, they just cannot get home. So I don't know if that means the rookies, Ashton Jalot, or Omar Norman Lott need to be more effective. Certainly Charles Aminahue needs to be more effective. Mike Dana got hurt in this game. That didn't help. George Carloftus just got paid by this team.

He needs to be more effective. like Chris Jones is a man on an island at times. And so those are real problems. Okay? And right now the chiefs don't deserve to be anything close to Super Bowl favorites. I'm not going to sit here and act like, ah, they got unlucky, they got this. No.

If anything, it is surprising that they have had a chance to win both of these games when they haven't played well, they've missed kicks in both games, they haven't forced a turnover. So that is the true and fair, sober analysis of where the chiefs are through two weeks. Anything past that is nonsense.

Anyone trying to pedal, wow, should they be worried about making the playoffs, I think has lost their mind. Now, is the division for the first time in jeopardy? Yeah. When you're 0 and 2 and a team that beat you is 2 and 0 with a divisional win, it's understandable that the chiefs are no longer the favorite.

it's in the division to Monzae and where where does Hard Rock bet have them at right now? They've got them at plus 240 to win the division. Should you should you hammer that? I mean, listen, as it's not surprising to you probably, I have a lot of exposure already on the chiefs, you know, futures and season and win total. But I think plus 240 is good value right now when I do, right now, if I had to pick it, I would still pick the chiefs to win the division. And part of that is some concerning stuff. I saw. Houston?

No, from, no, from the Chargers. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. The, Houston doesn't apply here. The, from the Chargers last night late in that game, and we'll get into that when we talk about the Chargers. I thought the Chargers almost went out of their way to try to keep the Raiders. in that game and it's what's true for Patrick is true

for all these quarterbacks. Any quarterback that's running a ton early in the year I get worried about and Justin Herbert's running a lot and you know, that, I think that and he took a wicked shot yesterday and then

they also had him late in the game when the game was decided to do another quarterback run that I totally didn't understand. And so I still believe the Chiefs are the best team in the AFC West. You can't right now say they're better than Buffalo or Baltimore. You can say, however, right now in a span of two quick weeks, after for the last few years, the AFC clearly being the better of the two conferences, the NFC right now seems

far superior and far deeper. Like Damase, who are in the AFC East, Buffalo, Miami, New England, the Jets. There's one team you believe in in Buffalo. The AFC North, Baltimore, Sincere, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, there's one team you believe in. The AFC South, right now, there might be zero teams you believe in. unless you or the generic you to the audience really does believe what the cults are doing is sustainable. I don't know that I believe it. The AFC West on the other hand might have a bunch of, you know, the Chargers, the Broncos, the Chiefs, the Raiders.

Still, like, it is, it's remarkable to me how open the middle part of the conference is. And so I think it's fair to say the chiefs have based. not punted, but given up the opportunity to be the one seed, I would, you know, I think that's fair. I think there's, you know, there are real things they need to clean up. I also feel this way. They are potentially 12 days away from everyone saying how silly we should feel for writing off the Chiefs because you beat the Giants this weekend. You didn't have a game against Baltimore that if you win, you're right back to being the Chiefs. And all this stuff about, oh, the mystique is gone or this or that.

That's gone like that. And that conversation is gone. And so big, but big next few weeks and big stretch of time before Rashid comes back, Xavier might be back this weekend. He'll definitely be back for the Raven game. And listen, they need to have a receiver that can beat man-to-man coverage. And the idea that like Mahomes is being exposed without a dynamic receiver is belied by the fact that he won league MVP. with a receiving core led by Juju and MBS,

and the next year won Super Bowl MVP with an even worse receiving core. And last year, they went 15 and 2 and made the Super Bowl with Rishi missing basically the whole year. So I think that's too reactionary, but somebody's got to get open at some point. All right, before we get to the Tush Push, do you have another one more follow? if you want to ask me. Yeah, with how Philly fans are treating you, do you think, treating you in person? Are you thinking about taking MMA lessons?

So I know we're joking. I'm going to be serious about this just for a second. The grown adult Eagle fans that live in the New York area, and I have more sympathy for folks, when I was in Kansas City and ran into Eagle fans, I'd love to tell you the vast majority were great. They were not. The vast majority were obnoxious assholes.

A few were great. But I had a group of four grown men in golf outfits at 8 in the morning, Friday morning, in front of the hotel we were both staying at. uh, yell, like scream at me. So like that, but, but I actually give those guys, not a pass. You're, you flew to town for a game. You're all right, like you're in game mode, whatever it is. Like, that, that is what it is.

The Eagle fans that see me on the street in New York and accost me for lack of of a better term are just out of their mind like what like on it like like like you're just out of your mind what are you doing right now dude say it again what are you doing with your time right now well it's just you're just you're just like what are you doing you're you're not on the team and i like the like the this is it is forever i've said that Whenever DeMonse says to me, like, oh, you're getting killed online or people are mad at you or whatever, what I've said is, no, they're not. Like, maybe they are, but it doesn't matter because I don't see it. In order to tell me your feelings, you've got to see me in person.

And 99% of the people who see me in person, no matter what they've said online, they're incredibly gracious. it is really surprising the level of like angst and vitriol a team that is the defending champions their fans have and I find it honestly not worst fan base but worst fan base to you like I felt like Buffalo was up there at one point but Buffalo fans were here's the thing I think I was I hoped to Buffalo fans

way more than Philly and Buffalo fans were always awesome always um edies and Buffalo fans by the way never won they never like the and the archetypes of Eagle fan is already

like a type of way I feel like like they're already yeah it's it's odd I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not making too big of a deal over it but I'm not going to act like it's not noticeable that these like

38 year old IT pros on their lunch break that see me walking in the city like hey Nick Wright fuck you like hey man like we're just like that's a little weird like it's just it's just and I and I the

I just have a auto response of congrats on the Super Bowl. Like, I don't know what interaction you think we're going to have here. I mean, that's just held up, pent up anger. But what I'm saying is, what are they, you got, they won. I don't know what they're mad about. I think that there is an element of their identity as sports fans is, anger and they don't know how to deal with the fact that they won. And so it is, I'm not going to like, I'm not going to pretend it's not weird.

And people, the producer is asking if it happened with nine or fans or buck fans, I'm telling you, and I am not exaggerating, it's never happened with any other fan base across any other sport to me. Like there are some true, diehard Kobe fans that really disliked me particularly right after Kobe's tragic passing because in that time, any, anybody that had, you know, tape, if you will, of what they thought was being unfair to Kobe, those got shared a lot, you know, in the moment after his passing. None of those folks, if I were to make a list of the 20 worst in-person interactions I've had with fans since I've been doing this, 18 of them would be Eagle fans since they won the Super Bowl.

Damn. It's really weird. and so like yeah and so it just you're out on these two part of that might be geographically yeah you know what I mean

there's a lot of things but it is it is odd which is why this thing we're doing next which is shining a light on the total bullshit that is the cheating of the

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the tush push stuff. So you went on a rant yesterday on TV. Some people would say you went on a wine about the tush push and how unfair it is. You've had 24 hours to reconsider. Are you going to walk it back or are you still sour on it? Listen, and you have to be my eyewitness on this, DeMonse. Okay. Okay. Well before the Eagles and Chiefs ever played in any Super Bowls, before the Chiefs beat him in the Super Bowl, before the Eagles were a real top flight contender, When we were doing the show from Trentage, your mom's store in Harlem together, I hated this play. Can you confirm that that is true?

100%. I don't think there's never been a point that the push existed and you didn't. Not like it. Right. And it started in October of 2021. And my argument had always been multi-layered, but the basis of it is, it's against the spirit of professional football because it's a rugby play. It's bad TV and it's a rugby play.

And Simmons made this point, and I agree with them, where it is in the same family as if a team started having guys go piggyback on each other's backs to block field goals at the line of scrimmage. Like, oh, is there a specific rule against that? I don't know, but it doesn't feel like what we're supposed to be doing here. There was the old Reddit post of what if the Warriors signed four, like, bodybuilders and had those four guys lock arms and Steph Curry stand in the middle of them and then shoot threes where nobody can get through. Like, is there technically a rule again?

against it. I don't know, but it feels against the spirit of the sport we're playing. So that's why I've always hated it. It's not because, and by the way, the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs in one game that really matters to me, the Super Bowl, and they didn't need the tush push in that Super Bowl. They crushed us. They needed it in the first Super Bowl, but the Chiefs won. I don't give a shit about the regular season games. So you're just going to have to take my word for it. Okay, that that has always been my longstanding opinion. I have had three kind of additional prongs to the opinion,

which is, first of all, if everyone got good at it, it would really hurt the NFL. If third and short or fourth in short were no longer exciting or intriguing plays that hurts the watchability and intrigue of the league. The second prong was, if the Eagles got better at it, it would snap ruin the sport. And by better at it, I mean, is right now they can basically get two yards

whenever they want. All that has to do is change to four yards. And for Philly to be like, okay, first play of the game, first and 10 from the 30, tush pushing the next 12 plays down the field. And you'd have to change the rule mid-season. But the third prong has also been this. Because one of the Eagles' defenses is, well,

it must not be that easy because they're the only ones who can do it that well. because they're the only ones that on 80% of them, half their team is off sides, and the guards are firing early. And thankfully, Tom Brady and Dean Blandino shined a spotlight on that. It is hard enough to stop as is.

But when every other snap of the game, Just think about how you're watching football. Every other snap, you can see the ball from the above shot because it's in front of the center. And then the offensive line is in a slight arc where the center is the furthest out, but his heads behind the ball. The guards are a little bit behind him and the tackles are a little bit behind them, except for tackles like Lane Johnson for the Eagles or Joanne Taylor for the chiefs, who are quite a bit, you know, behind.

Do you get a little early jump? The tush push, you can't see the ball because the center is, the ball is behind where the center is. Like where the center's head is. That's the illegal. And you don't know when the ball's been snapped because you can't see it,

which for the refs makes it impossible to tell, wait, did the guards go early to get an advantage just for? by a quarter of a second. And you might say, well, it's a quarter of a second. We see every day in the NFL, an offensive lineman just barely shift back in a stance. It's a flag. That is happening on steroids, 80% of Eagles pushes.

Go back and watch the Vikings try it on Sunday night football. And what you'll see is they're lined up like a regular play. and those can be stopped. So you, if the commissioner of the league doesn't want it, 22 of the 31 other teams don't want it, at the very least, can it be officiated correctly? At the very least, can,

because here's the thing, DeMise, a false start penalty on push-push-push plays, is devastating. Yeah. Because they're going for fourth downs they wouldn't otherwise go for. You know what I mean? It's not like a false start on first and ten is not that big of a deal. A false start on fourth and one when you're either at the goal line or on your own 35 as the Eagles are wanting to do any of those spots totally changes the math entirely.

And here is why they're cheating. Well, I'm not going to call him cheating because they're doing what the refs will let him get away with. I'm asking, here is my belief. A little over two years ago in Jawan Taylor's first game as a chief, I think it was his first game. I know it was the first game of the season, regardless. Against the Detroit Lions, Chris Collinsworth made a point to harp on on the broad. he is jumping early and it's something he had always done in Jacksonville before he came to

Kansas City it had never really been a problem but Collinsworth pointed it out on the broadcast and all of a sudden every ref was attuned to it and he snapped became the most penalized player in the league what I wonder is is will Tom Brady having focused on that they are jumping early on the tush push? And then Dean Blandino coming on the same broadcast and saying, yeah, guys, I'm done with the tush push. It's too hard to officiate. Will that make the officiating crews across the country more aware?

Oh, this is something we have to watch. Because if Philly starts just even occasionally getting false starts on it, it massively kneecaps its effectiveness. And my prediction is that, oh, I didn't see this. I didn't know that. I missed that last night where the refs made the Chargers O-line adjust. how they were going to push push because of how they were lined up. I'll watch that.

Thanks guys for doing that in the in the doc. But my guess is they're now aware that what they're doing is not allowed. And it certainly is going to be banned after this year. I think there is no doubt about it. But I just wonder if it's going to lose some effectiveness during this. year. Luckily, Philly will be fine without it because Jalen Hertz is such a prolific

downfield passer this season. Yeah, that graphic was pretty crazy. I mean, and that's not that different from week one, where now he hit the one deep ball to Jahan Dotson in week one, he hit the

one deep ball to Devante Smith in week two. That's boring. Jalen, listen, Jalen Hertz is not a dynamic dropback passer. He is better than what we've seen through two weeks. And to not be giving him the opportunities to hit A.J. Brown down the field is odd. and I think that there is right now what is keeping that a float is not a float

but under wraps is that they've won because I think AJ is not all too pleased about not getting opportunities and I say that because AJ Brown told us himself. Let me see if I can find it. There it is. He's going to have the Quran

told us himself. What'd you say, Damase? So they said he was going to have the Quran memorized by the end of the season. Oh. So here, AJ Brown on Instagram, four days after the Super Bowl,

quote, I tried to feel how everyone made it seem to be a champion. And fortunately, it was short-lived. Two days to be exact, LOL. I've never been a champion at the highest level before,

but I thought my hard work would be justified by winning it all. It wasn't. My thrill for this game comes when I dominate. It's the hunt that does it for me. It's when the DB drops his head and surrenders because he can't F with me.

That is A.J. Brown's own words. So I don't know how happy A.J. Brown is with what has been the Eagles offense up to this point. All right. Let's get DeMons A.2 the Joe Burrow injury in the Bengals. Joe Burrell was knocked out early with a turf toe injury. So he's going to get surgery and he's going to miss at least three months. And this is his third major injury. Where did the Bengals go from here without Burrow? all right remember our rules guys on NFL injury announcements okay if the initial reporting is

he's fine it means he might miss a week if the initial reporting is escaped major injury he's probably out a month if the initial reporting is the team is high highly concerned, he's almost assuredly out a year. In the new age of NFL insider media, for some reason, there is this, I would imagine it's a request by agents to always put the sunniest possible timeframe on injuries. So when the initial reporting is at least three months for Joe Burrow, you should read that to mean he is done for the season.

Okay? You like there. And here's why the reporting stuff on it matters. So I saw some people yesterday like doing the math. They're like, all right, three months. So October, November. So he could be back by mid-December. If the Bengals are already 2 and 0, if they can, you know, just play 500 ball.

Then he's back for the stretch run, gets a few games under his belt before the playoffs. No chance. not that's that's not realistic sadly joe burrow is almost assuredly done for the year and there is this was not a fluke this was this was i don't want to call it predictable but all off season and you guys know this if you listen to this show. And by the way, we appreciate everyone who does, and please subscribe on iTunes and YouTube and Spotify and all that. Leave us a review if you'd like. Certainly give us five stars, if you don't mind. The Bengals conversation was simply a, well, if the defense can just get a

little bit better, we know the offense is going to be great. And I said more than once, one of the reasons I was not a Bengals believer was I thought their offensive line which already had been shaky was worse this year potentially than it was last year and through two games really a game and a half you saw Joe Burrow getting the hell knocked out of them

and so part of that is a team failing, right? Here's another thing. And this is something that it's just the reality. It demands that you might think this is harsh. I don't mean it to be. But I think if you watch the Bengals, this is something Joe Burrow needed to improve on and didn't. He is so, he is so often hunting the big play.

downfield. Even when there's guys diving at his legs, like the pockets breaking down, he has, and it's one of the reasons he's so great is because he's going to stand in there and, you know, as opposed to, honestly, like the way Patrick played last year, which is, nope, get rid of the ball. Get rid of the, you know. He, the example I gave, and you're too young to really have watched this guy. Burrow oddly plays within the pocket a lot like Big Ben did, where it is, there's going to be guys hanging all over me, and I'm going to, but Big Ben, he was named Big Ben for a reason.

You know what I mean? He was huge. He was incredibly durable. That's not, so like, I'm not blaming Joe Burrow for being hurt. What I'm saying is the style, he hasn't adjusted his style of play given, how critical he is to that team having any shot. And so now this is a player who, and this is the worst, I mean, the worst accolade imaginable.

He has a real chance, DeMonsay, to become the only guy in the history of the NFL to win the comeback player of the year. three times. He's already won it twice. You don't want that, man. That's like, he blew out his knee as a rookie, came back and won it.

He got his elbow torn up a couple years ago, came back and won it, and now he's going to have played a game and a half this year. And so... Saving grace, it's like a toe thing, though. At least it's, you know, a knee... Oh, not his elbow.

That's unfortunate he's injured. It doesn't, you would not expect this at all to have next year impacts. Yes, I agree. You know what I mean? You expect him to come back the exact same player, right? The flip side of that is he's now had three catastrophic injuries to three totally unrelated parts of his body. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like the is yeah, I mean, you, you, you've had some similar. Yeah, just everywhere. Stuff there. Right. The where it's like, man, I've got, I've dealt with a shoulder. I've dealt with an ankle. I've dealt with this. Like for Joe, he's dealt with an ACL, some weird elbow ligament thing.

And now turf toe, which never happens to quarterbacks. And so I, and this idea that producers, if you guys don't mind. check on Hard Rock what the Bengals are right now, yes, no to make the playoffs. Because there is, I guess, a level of, well, they are 2 and 0 with two divisional wins. Like, can they overcome this? And Jake Browning, obviously, when he played a couple years ago, played well enough, and they went 500. I just think their next month,

de Monzae of defenses, three of these games on the road. They're at Minnesota, at Denver, home for Detroit, at Green Bay. That feels like one in three at best and a real possibility, and I hate to say it, but a real possibility that Browning doesn't make it through that.

Like, with that offensive line the way it is, and they signed Sean Clifford to the practice squad today, which they have to. Like, I don't know. I'm trying to see. Oh, they already, on their practice squad, they already had Brett Rippin and Mike White. Like, go and get Anthony Richardson from the Colts or something. Oh, that's interesting. Kirk Cousins. Kurt?

Tray Lance is out there somewhere? Trey Lance, interesting. I mean, I don't know. Like right now, Jake Browning's a better option than all those guys definitively except for maybe Kirk and maybe Kirk as well. Browning's fine. But, so they're on Hard Rock bet to make the playoffs no minus 210, yes, plus 165. That seems a little optimistic. That also, though, speaks to the power.

being 2 and 0 with two conference wins and 2 and 0 in the AFC right now. All right, let's follow up here, pal. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember

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happened there. That was such a horrifying loss for the Jags. I mean, Browning threw three picks, including one, that just has to end the game. So the

when the Jags are up 2724 early in the 4th, the Bengals go three and out. The Jags then have a nine-play drive. They end with a punt. Jake Browning then

throws an interception that is returned to the to the Bengals 12 yard line. The Jags have the ball, they're up three. They have first and 10 from the 12

with five minutes left. And they lose, man. They, they, I, I'm not going to kill Liam Cohen for going for that fourth down. You guys have heard me say before. I oddly prefer sometimes to be up three than up six.

I hate the up six. Like up three, it feels like the other team's a little more conservative. They will obviously kick a field goal. So I didn't blame him saying a touchdown wins us this game. If we don't pick it up, you know, we're giving it to you at the eight. and you're less likely to be so aggressive. And maybe they should have won. Sorry, my allergies are killing.

Maybe they should have won because I thought the Travis Hunter pass interference was a bad call. But you cannot find a way to lose that game. And early in the game, Trevor with a vintage Trevor mistake, it's 7-0 Jacksonville, the Bengals go three and out, the Jags move the ball right down the field, and on third and goal from the 8 Trevor just throws

a hope and a prayer that gets picked off now his other pass that got picked off was Brian Thomas Jr. who had a alligator arm situation the whole game but in Brian Thomas Jr.'s defense Trevor's got to stop throwing these hospital balls, man.

Like, that was a great opportunity for the Jacks. And to lose a game when Joe Burrow gets hurt and Jake Browning throws three picks. And by the way, Trevor throws for 270 and three touchdowns. You run for a buck 40. It's just such a Jags loss. Just such a Jags loss. Shout out Paige Beckers. She won rookie of the year.

Breaking news. Shout out Paige. Who do you think was more wrong? Head coach Liam, Colin, for telling his quarterback. were to throw the ball or Trevor were waving his coach off. Liam. You can't. You can't.

Listen, you just, you can do that privately on the sideline. Barking at your quarterback when he is trying, like, he's still like, has to call a play, run a play. There's, that, that to me was ridiculous. All right, DeMonte, let's quickly, we've got a lot more to do here. So let's go, we'll go quickly. through the rest of the games before we go to our Monday staple, all the games that didn't get their own section, we're going to give them, you know,

20 or 30 seconds each. So we had every game in the league this weekend. Oh, so the Bucks moved to 2 and O after a late score led by Baker late in the game. Is betting Baker down a score late in the game as much of a lot? It's good of a lot these days. Yeah, listen. Shout out producer Daniel,

who texted the group. when Baker got the ball back down five, you know, is this an auto bet? And I think we, you know, I bet it. I think he bet it. I also had the Bucks parlayed with the Raiders. So I'm glad I bet it because I ended up losing that one. So this made up for it. A couple things about that.

One is about the specific game, and then I'll get to. Baker. I never feel like teams or very often announcers make a big enough deal of the two-point conversion to go up seven. So last night, the Texans, Nick Chubb breaks off this great run. So they score with how much time is left when they score. Two-10 left. and that two-point conversion they go for there is just so wildly important because you get it and likely overtime's the worst-case scenario. You don't get it and you almost feel like, man, do we wish Chubb hadn't of scored? Because if Chubb had gone down and then you're in a position where, because they were

at the time Houston was down what would they have been down? They were down four, right? I'm an idiot. Why can I not get this right? The, hold on, they got, why am I so dumb right now? The score of the game was 14, 13.

Yeah, Jesus. They were down one. What the hell just happened there? And if Chubb doesn't score, all of a sudden, Tampa's having to use its timeouts. You're kicking a field goal, you know, potentially later. But Chub does score. That's great. You want the seven, but what you need is the eight.

They don't get the two-point conversion. And now Baker's in business. All three timeouts, two minutes can get going. With that said, Texans had him in fourth and ten. And then Baker did some really cool Baker stuff escaping the rush, running, seemingly got hurt, then got saved by the fact that Chauncey Gardner Johnson was talking trash and all of a sudden he wasn't hurt anymore and he popped up to talk trash right back to him. Baker's just the best and Baker absolutely can win league MVP this year.

Absolutely can. And the Bucks absolutely can be the one seed as predicted on this show. Bucks. So you're not easing off of that. No. Why would I? 100%. I mean, they have played two road games against teams that were considered either possible or likely playoff teams. They could have lost both.

And Baker made game winning plays in the waning moments of both. Now they get the Jets, then a tough home game against the Eagles, but they play the Eagles really well. Seahawks, Niners, Lions It's not easy, but No, they've got a real You're missing a couple of guys on offense right now too Yes, absolutely. Godwin's going to be coming back.

No. Now, I think they lost Excuse me. Coliza can't see in that game. That's concerning. But no, the bucks are for real. Now on the Baker piece of it, it really gets

lost in the shuffle. DeMonze, not lost in the shuffle, but I just want to reiterate this. The Cleveland Brown spent the number one overall pick on Baker Mayfield, watched him in his second year win a playoff game for them. And then they were like, yeah, he's not good enough for us. They're like, yeah, we can do better. You're the Cleveland Browns. And you decided that Baker Mayfield was not, and I said in his second year he won the

playoff game. It was in his third year. He won the playoff game. Pardon me. You decided a guy who won a playoff game as a Brown's homegrown starting quarterback. Wasn't good enough for you because Odo Beckham Jr.'s dad put out an interesting. Instagram mixtape ripping him. In a year he played hurt.

And now you're just in hell. It's really, really unbelievable. And I love seeing Baker have this success. I love it so much. The flip side, DeMonsé is panic meter is at a seven for the Texans and for C.J. he needs to stop basketball pre. Like if you're losing, like, he shouldn't bring it out in the third game. He's done it the first two games.

He shouldn't be out there. I don't even know. I'll be honest. I don't even know what you're talking about. Okay. Yeah. It's probably more on my algorithm. Well, CJ's like doing between the legs, walking up and down the field.

Maybe if you're throwing it to your receivers or something, you guys need to be more in tune. But, yeah, while losing that, you can't be doing that. I just feel like, come on a six to. No, I like it. I mean, I like your critique of it. But yeah, like you said, ever since he said that thing to Caleb Williams, it's just kind of been on a downward slope.

Contractually obligated to give you guys the numbers on this one. C.J. Stroud, let me see if I can get football reference to cooperate with me. C.J. Stroud, through that game with Caleb Williams. in the regular season in his career 11 and 6 26 touchdowns 5 picks a 101 rating C.J. Stroud since he told Caleb Williams come here young fellow let me teach you a thing or two 8 and 9 18 touchdowns 13 picks and 85 rating life can come out with your fast man and the Texans offensive operation just does not look good.

The defense is still awesome. But what the Texans have going for them, obviously, is the division they're in. And if you don't believe in the cults, that division's going to feel winnable. But they're at Jacksonville this weekend. Big game. That's it for both teams. Big game. Big game.

Then they get a little respite against the Titans. Then it's at the Ravens, at Seattle. It's tough, man. And so, yeah, I'd be a little, more than a little nervous if I were the Texans. All right, let's get to the other Monday night game. Well, the Chargers looked good again for the most part last night with another divisional win. Do you think this is the cream of the crop in that division? Listen, I think the Chiefs will end up winning the division,

but I have to give credit. The Chargers have looked really good. Now, I thought the Chargers at the end of the game, as I said earlier, made some really, really poor game management decisions. And I don't understand, like, the Chargers, it's fine, I guess. But it is odd to me that both the Chargers and Otter for the Raiders, spent such premium draft picks on running backs and don't want to give him the ball.

Like, the Raiders' refusal to get Ashton Genti involved and it's like because he's not good in past protection, we'll just have, I understand you don't want to tip your hand on, oh, we're running this guy's, you know, on the field. But you can't spend the sixth pick of the draft on a guy. He was, you know, and give him 11 carries in a game where Gino's having the, worst game of his career. He just can't do it.

And my, the Chargers defense looks awesome. And Herbert's been really good. My only Charger concern is, I think Herbert's running it too much. And that is concerning. The other piece of that game is, and do we have any reporting

on what Kaleel Max's injury was? I know that he was in a sling and he was holding his arm, and so that didn't look good. That could be really damaging as well. The Raiders, it would have been amazing if the Raiders could have started

3 and 0, or I'm sorry, 2 and 0. They, but they'll take 1 and 1, especially because DeMaze, Raiders next 4 at the commanders in a game Jaden might not play,

then Home Base. bears at cult's home titans raiders really need to make hay this next month and gino will bounce back that was a really rough gino game and we talked a little bit about the chargers earlier all right guys i am so excited and that i might for the first time in years go to a chief's road game you know why because the chiefs are playing in the New York area when they play the Giants and all of a sudden a must win game against the New York Giants

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I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. All right, DeMonse, we've got to really hurry up. We're going too long. I'm going to miss my spot with Colin. We've got to keep going. Let's get to the other games. All right, so the Lions are looking good. Or back to looking good again. They demolished the Bears 52 to 21. Your guy Caleb saw his stock plummet a little bit more.

The bigger story here, the Lions domination, or how bad the Bears are. Listen, I actually don't think Caleb Stock took a hit in this game. I didn't think he was great. I thought he was fine. The story, when a team allows 52, the story can't be the team who allowed 52 their quarterback. The story can either be their defense or the other team's offense. And I think the story is the Lions kind of having a, A, don't write us off, you know, after one bad game reminder.

And golf looking really good. And Dan Campbell getting a little get back. And so that to me is the story of that game. Is Detroit steadied itself after the playoff game goes terrible, week one goes terrible. and they know they're staring down a game in Baltimore this weekend. So had they started 0 and 2, it get late early for the Detroit Lions. Instead, they demolish the Bears,

and the Bears, on the other hand, are feeling like, man, oh, man. You know, how far away are we from just being a good team, much less a great team? and right now they look really far. Again, I did not think this was a Caleb game as far as the story. He had the one horrific pick. He had another decision that could have resulted in a pick. I'm not going to freak out about that.

I am going to tell you that they have Cowboys Raiders, Commander Saints is their next four. And if they don't come out of that, at least two and two, and probably need to be three and one, they're in real trouble. They're like, and they might already be in real trouble. I think it's, I picked them to make the playoffs.

I don't think they're dead on that front, but they're in quite the whole. Listen, when I picked and make the playoffs, I thought through two games, they'd be one and one. So it's, you know, they're only one game off that pace. But how they've looked,

and this is where blowing that, Vikings game keeps you up at night. All right, next. Yeah, so over there in Dallas, there were five lead changes in 41 points scored in the fourth quarter alone. Aubrey sent it to overtime on a 64 yarder and then at the game winner on the fifth possession of overtime. You left this game angry with Dallas.

Thoughts, why was that? Yeah, well, listen, Brandon Aubrey is one of the most valuable players in the league. The fact that the Cowboys were, it was going to be a 60s. year field goal, they had time to try to push the ball down field. And they're like, no, we'll just hand it off because we're now well within his range is so bananas. And, you know, DAC looked great. The reason I left the game angry with Dallas is because what we have seen from the Cowboys through two weeks tells me I was too low on them before the Micah trade. And had they kept Micah Parsons, that team could be really interesting.

And Jerry's whole narrative that the media ran with that we're, you know, Mike is actually so bad against the run that this trade helps us long term and short term. We've now seen the defense in two games without him and they can't do anything. That's the best game of Russell Wilson's whole life until he threw the pick at the end. Like the, we were talking about that being the final start of Russell's career. It ends up being maybe the best start of his career because that Cowboys defense is that bad without Micah. All right, let's go to the Niners. So last week, you soft launch that you were rooting for Mack Jones, and he passed for 279 yards and three touchdowns.

How was this game about you and Jimmy Gee? Well, listen. And for anyone, for the folks, if they're watching this pod at the first things, first offices, turn it way up. or have Wilds come down to the conference room so we can hear this because it is so galling to me that my colleagues really Wilds can't just say out loud on the show all right Nick was right all along about the Niners quarterback position being needing to be judged differently than everyone else is because of the Shanahan system. We argued for three years about Jimmy Garoppolo.

With my take being, he's actually not good. Oh, he's been into a Super Bowl, been in a conference championship game. And my take was, he's not good. That's the Shanahan system and the weapons. And a lot of quarterbacks could have that level of success. They then drop in the final pick of the draft He goes to a conference championship game in a Super Bowl and we now then argue for two years That actually that guy's really special too

That guy's really good and then we while we see Jimmy G leave there and immediately become a backup We then see that last pick of the draft get hurt They drop in Mac Jones who's been horrible for three years, he looks really good. And the answer is, well, maybe Max's a new player. Jesus, guys, I know I can be obnoxious. I know I can be annoying at times.

Sometimes, though, you just got to be like, damn it, Nick was right. Turns out, Shanahan, certainly Shanahan plus McCaffrey, can inflate a quarterback stats in a way that EP, per play can't judge.

And the whole I wouldn't pay Brock Purdy $55 million a year well when you can get that production from a guy making $5 million that's why.

So I was always and have always been right about this and folks are just keep doing that. Yeah. They just keep paying a quarterback less money. I don't know.

That's... That's... That's perplexing to me. I don't know why they... They feel like they need to spend money for just average talent at the position that you're paying them like they're an elite talent because of what you do to make... I don't know why they do it. But at this point...

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Be out in five. Apologies. All right. I want to hit every game. So, Falcons beat the Vikings. The story of that game is J.J. McCarthy got hurt. The real story of that game is J.J. McCarthy looked totally out of sorts. And we are now at seven of eight quarters.

He's looked awful. Unbelievable fourth quarter game one. But quarters one through three, quarters one through four of week two, he looked way over his skis. That's a concern. So that's a real worry. And now it's a Carson Wins time in Minnesota. Don't love that. Ravens beat the Browns, 41-17.

Were you ever nervous to Maze? It started off pretty slow, but I wouldn't say that I was ever nervous. Joe Flackold just gave it to us at one point. But yeah, dude. Yeah, I mean, it was a weird game because the Ravens didn't have a ton of yards. Derek Henry did nothing. And the Browns moved the ball, but the Browns just browns did repeatedly. Got a pump blocked flacko mistake, like, you know, just bad, bad errors.

And the Ravens, you know, last year, the Ravens lost to the Raiders in week two, started O and two. So this, for them to put it on them like that, I thought was great. beat the Jets. My only concern there is Josh Allen, it looked like broke his nose. Like the little nosebleed. Yeah, I thought it was worse than just nosebleed. Like I wondered what happened to him there. But the bills looked awesome.

Josh didn't have to do much. The Jets defense all of a sudden is a huge concern. The Steelers score 34 and the bills score 30. Speaking of the Steelers, Seahawks to beat the Steelers, 3117. What everyone's focused on in that game is the Steelers kick returner for getting the rule and the Seahawks getting a free touchdown out of it. You're shaking your head.

What are you focused on? Is it Aaron Rogers just completely blaming the guy after the game? Or is it? Well, the kid Calvin Austin, who's your age, DeMons A's a great kid. He's a great kid. He's freaking through the game. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, Rogers was really bad in this game. and he doesn't he doesn't know how to accept that he is no longer good and I think the week one mirage probably made it harder for him to accept it but the Steelers defense now on Pumpkin Watch just like the Jets defense is and the Steelers offense I don't think Roger is going to save the day I don't know

let me look real quick who did the Steelers have next the Steelers. Oh, wow. Steelers at Patriots. That's a huge game for both sides there. So Steelers at Patriots, that's an interesting one. They then get the Vikings who should be playing a backup and the Browns, and then the schedule really gets hard. So the Steelers need to go at least two and one in the next three.

I don't know if I'm optimistic about that. Patriots beat the Dolphins 33, 27, one of the more exciting games of the weekend. Drake May was awesome. Tuo was not. Mike McDaniel seems ready to be fired and DeMondsey. Mike McDaniel could get fired this week.

Because they play Thursday in Buffalo. That could be a bloodbath. And if that happens, I don't know, you know, Tua's, two and Tyreek are still not on the same page. It's just,

it's really ugly in Miami. What'd you say? I've seen from Miami. I don't know how that game is anything, but a blowout. Like, I don't, Miami's. Yeah, I mean, divisional game on a Thursday, but still, it feels like Buffalo's going to mollywop them. Called to be the Broncos 29, 28, thanks to the rarely called leverage penalty

after a 60-yard missed field goal. Listen, the Broncos deserve to be one-in-one. They had no business winning week one. They did. They should have won week two. They didn't. also Bo Nix was terrible week one and they won so nobody cared he was awesome in week two he threw one bad pick but he am I right about that I think he threw the pick late in the game um but he was unbelievable in the first half but they lost anyway again I picked the Broncos de Monzae to miss the playoffs and I said I thought they were going to start awesome I picked them to miss the playoffs anticipating a 2-0 start. They're now one-in-one and yet to look good.

And they still have that brutal end-of-season stretch of Chiefs commanders, Raiders, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers. And next week, they're at the Chargers, winner potentially in first place, or will be in first place in the division. And Jacob in the chat wants to admit Daniel Jones to the truth. I'm getting a lot of Saints last year Derek Carr vibes from this cult's Daniel Jones

2 and 0 numbers amazing and Saints last year started 2 and O car looked unbelievable then it all fell apart and Cardinals defeated the Panthers and one of the worst NFL games ever played. All right great job to Monzae appreciate you. Great job to Blue Duck

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