The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - NFL Week 6 Reaction: Bills UNRAVELING, Chiefs BEAT UP Lions, Bears WALK-OFF Commanders | Nick Wright

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.  Nick Wright recaps Week 6 of the NFL season, starting with his Kansas City Chiefs beating the Detroit Lions in primetime and the ensuing postgame fight. Next, Nick reacts to Bijan Robinson and the Atlanta Falcons' upset over Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills and what it means for the MVP race. Then, Nick breaks down Caleb Williams-Jayden Daniels II and whether or not there is a rivalry brewing in the NFC between the Chicago Bears and Washington Commanders. Later, Nick and Damonza go rapid fire around the league in Quick Hitters and answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, signs. That makes so much more sense, guys. Okay, I was so excited. I was like he sings on her album. No, he signs. Okay, that's actually kind of cool. That makes a lot more sense. Titans fire, Brian Callion.

How about that? Tomahe. Yeah, now we can bet on them, huh? We can bet the Titans again. I might this week. I'm telling you right now. right now they're getting seven against New England. They got to be a little juiced up.

If that gets to seven and a half, that could be in one of Nick's picks. Red hot Nick's picks, by the way, four and one. I told you, I promised on Demonsay's life. I'd never bet on the Titans again until Callahan was fired. I didn't realize, so he finishes his head coaching career,

and I think it's fair to say career, because I don't know that he's getting another shot. Four and 19 straight up, which is horrible, but somehow worse than that. that four in 19 against the spread Vegas knows the Titans are bad That's pretty bad. That's bad.

And Tua, we might actually do more on this at some point in the show. Tua holds this press conference and it's the, I don't, I think the guy's name's Nathan Robinson. There's that meme where a hot dog car drives into a. Oh, yeah. from, I think you should leave. And the guy's wearing a hot dog suit. And he's like, who crashed it in here?

And he's like, who did this? That's, does two and not realize when he stands at the podium and he's like, our players only meetings have no leadership that he's the hot dog suit guy? Like, buddy, you are the quarterback, which makes you a leader, the highest paid player on the team, which makes you the leader. You are the leader. That was crazy. Him and McDaniel, like that tandem, like quarterback. coach tandem's got to be the funniest one in like recent memory huh man shout out to big cat who made

a point other people were afraid to make but he was correct which is much like i don't know if you guys remember um when it looked in 2016 when it looked like the calves were about to get dusted by the warriors in the finals before the greatest three games by the greatest part in the history of the league um lebron went to one of the press conferences he had bought matching superiors suits for everyone on the team, but they were Tom Brown suits. So they were suits that the pants were shorts. And so now they're down 3-1. It looks like they're going to lose again.

And he's doing this press conference in this kind of odd-looking suit. And it was like, man, like it doesn't really play as well coming off a loss. That's what Big Cat said about Mike McDaniel and his Capri pants. And I got to tell you, I don't think he's wrong. Like shout out to Big Cat. You got to switch those out. Yeah. All right.

Here's the thing, before we get to the actual show. So I, you know, there is a great, actually, you know what, I don't even know if it was the Chiefs Receipts account that tweeted this. But regardless, I'm scrolling Twitter. And I sees one of these aggregators has posted the latest ESPN NFL Nation power rankings for the NFL. and I'm so certain that it's bad information that I then just go to the website myself, Google, ESPN and NFL power rankings. And again, I am not trying to take a shot at the good folks at ESPN. And I don't want to overstate anything, which is why it pains me to say,

this article that was posted at 6.45 this morning that leads with welcome to week seven of the NFL season. Jets are still winless. Chiefs bounced back. The buccaneers are shockingly still atop the NFC race. How do all these teams fit in our updated power rankings? We restacked the NFL heading into week 7, goes on to it, our panel of more than 80 writers, editors, and TV personalities. Evaluated how NFL teams stack up against one another,

ranking them from 1 to 32. Late breaking, 80 person sample, watched the NFL this weekend, saw what the Kansas City Chiefs did to Detroit. They had them at 7 going into last week. and dropped them to nine. They watched football this weekend and said the chiefs are, going into the Lions game,

we thought they were the seventh best team at football. We've now seen it. They're ninth. Detroit is two. Buffalo, whose wins have come against teams that are combined three and 21 is three. I don't want to overstate it when I say, this is the single worst power ranking in the history of sports media.

I've never seen anything like it. Week 6 result, beat the Lions 30 to 17. Week 6 ranking 7 and then a little red arrow down. What is happening? You had 80 people on this? Nobody threw their body in front of this bus. Like, guys, I don't think this one's going to pass the smell test here. Might have been an error.

It's not an error. Green, listen, Green Bay, Green Bay, Green Bay last week was eight on this thing. The Chiefs were seven. They watched Green Bay, Eke passed Joe Flacco and the Bengals, and the Chiefs dogwalked the Lions, and they're like, Green Bay, you're six now.

You jump them. What are we doing? I don't know. I don't, I don't, so, okay. Amazing night of Monday night football. But we're not starting there. We're starting with, well, go ahead, DeMonze. Well, yeah, sick double header last night, and that led to two upsets.

But yet you wanted to start with the chiefs who were three and three lasted Rishi Rice's suspension, state of float. But they still have some ground to make up as they are third in the division. Okay, all right. Here's the deal. All is right in the world again. Yeah, pretty happy this one. He's amped. It's just everything's back the way. it's supposed to be you guys check the latest MVP odds who's the favorite patrick go on hard rock bet

check the latest super bowl odds who's the favorite the chiefs everything's everything is the way it's supposed to be and what is so gratifying about this is we don't i thought the way this was going to go was all the folks that wrote the chief's obituary three weeks ago were going to have to answer for that commentary in January. Instead, because of how can, even with the loss nine days ago by the chiefs. Because of how the rest of the league is looked and how Kansas City looked on national TV Sunday night, all those folks have to eat it immediately.

We're not to Halloween yet. And they all have to be like, all right, I'm dumb. You're right. I'm wrong. It's so good. It's so much fun. And the fact that they're winning this way, with the offense humming,

back to, you're shocked when they don't get a touchdown, Patrick doing Patrick things, and they don't have their best offensive weapon not named Patrick Mahomes yet. And then you just, you watch the rest of the league, and we'll get to these games. But you watch the Broncos do everything they can

to try to lose to one of the worst teams I've ever seen in the Jets. You watch the Chargers, do everything they can. Great play at the end by the Chargers, but the Chargers struggle with a Dolphins team that seems to actively hate each other. You watch the Bills what they did last night,

the Eagles that are ripping themselves apart at the seams, the Lions we saw them play. And the other reason I'm happy is, you know the one team DeMonze that you can hold up next to the Chiefs right now? and be like, hey, what are you, what are you going to say bad about this team? And I'm going to say, no, there isn't anything. The Bucs.

Tampa, yeah. The Bucks. Who are my pick going into the year? This guy, man. I'm feeling good. I had to eat it a lot those first couple weeks. I had to come on here, talk about all these concerns. I had to listen to the great, my beloved Kevin Wilde.

act like Andy Reed and Travis Kelsey are not essentially family and worry about the fact that Andy bumped Travis. I do all that. And less than a month later, you know the other way I know we're back? Because we're back to the refs. We are so, the chiefs are back. I was just about to say, yeah, it seemed like the rest might have taken a night off there. Okay, so let's talk about that real quick before we get into the actual game. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers.

And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers

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And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. Wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks.

Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? I would hit a go go? Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just take it. What are y'all doing? Microphones?

Are you making a rap album? I would. Come on. How did you believe? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky.

I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. I'm lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Zero penalties.

There were five penalties called in that game. So let's talk about the penalties part first, because that's what people are whining about. Five penalties were called in that game. One was called on Kansas City, for the record. It was declined. So they did throw a flag on the Chiefs when Chris Joe. jumped off sides, it was declined. The four penalties called on Detroit were as follows.

They didn't know the rules on their stupid trick play, and that was a black and white. You were not set after being under center, have to call it. Then the lions were so thrown off by the fact that that penalty was called, they got a delay of game. on the extra point attempt because they didn't know what they were going to do. So that's two. The third one was a clear-as-day, took three steps and hit Mahomes in the head by Aidan Hutchinson, and the fourth one was a judgment call, but obviously the right call, a pass interference on Detroit.

So it did the most subjective calls that there are. illegal contact, defensive holding, offensive holding, illegal man downfield. Those ones where you can be like, that happens every play or whatever it was. There were zero called on either team the entire game. So the level of whining, I expect it from some of the media and certainly fans. But did you see Kirby Joseph? First team all pro last year. Kirby Joseph for the Detroit Lions sent out 24 tweets after the game whining about the refs.

Get it together, Detroit. He's one safety. It was a study that came out. It was a study that came on. By the way, I have never seen. Can I just say something? That U-TEP, I paid the eight, and here's, so that U-TEP study that, by the way, No one has read.

Everyone has just read the news article about it. You know how I know? Because to read that study, you got to subscribe to that journal, which either is going to cost a couple hundred bucks or you can pay $18 for 24 hour access. Guess who paid the $18 for 24 hour access? This guy. Hand up. Guess who didn't? Everyone else.

It's one of the most ridiculous studies I've ever seen. The too long didn't read version of it is The Chiefs have played the most playoff games And therefore their opponents have been called for the most penalties That like give you it is but but I don't even give it I don't care about that I do care about high leverage spots again The games are on TV

30 million people watch them find me Find me the call we're all mad about But I don't even want to talk about it I don't. I'm going to get mad. That's not what today is for. It's not for the idiots in El Paso. So one lion's safety took the loss so well.

He went on Tweet Storm tweeting out Photoshop's of Mahomes kissing a ref. The other lion's safety took the loss so well. He hit Juju Smith-Schuster in the face, and now he's going to have to miss a massive game against Tampa. And then goes in the locker room. And I don't know if you guys watched that video. But it sure seemed like he was about to cry while saying, and I quote, they were bullying me out there. End quote.

Are you bullying him now? What? You were bullied out there? Is this Sunday night football with the big bad Detroit Lions? Or fourth grade recess? What are you talking about? You got bullied? Should Juju have to sit by himself at lunch?

Is Patrick going to have to miss the, not get a juice box tomorrow? You got bullied? You're supposed to be the bullies. and instead of being the bullies on fourth and goal to set the tone on your first drive of the game and handing the ball to david montgomery from the six inch line you pop jared golf out wide on a play because you're that you don't even know the rules on and throw him a pass you got bullied that's a big that's a big that's a big that's a bit of the rules on and throw him a pass and throw him a pass you got bad look, buddy. That's a bad look.

And if you are, listen, the Lions are obviously a good team. I thought Chris Collinsworth made a correct point, which was, there's a lot of cracks in the foundation if they're not playing from ahead. If all of a sudden it becomes a drop back passing game and Jared Gough and those hands the ball is put there, it's, it's shaky. I think they're a very good team, don't get me wrong. And I think Dan Campbell was absolutely right when the way he said, I love Brian Branch, but that's unacceptable.

Of course it's unacceptable. It's the professional football is very unique in this regard, de Monse. You almost never see post-game. fights during the game sure and pregame occasionally but the moment the game's over what you normally see is embracing yeah guys pray together they come together and it's it is similar to boxing in that regard where guys can be going at it until the bell in the 12th round and then immediately hug Because there is an element of this shit is dangerous, man. And the, you know, we have to.

The respect factor. Right. The respect factor of, all right, games over. And so what Branch did, and for it to be, that level of cheap shot was bizarre. It was really bizarre. It started with Patrick trying to shake his hand. He didn't want to. And then Ju-Ju, I don't know what Juju said or what happened.

but he hit juju in the face go ahead yeah no i mean he shouldn't have he shouldn't have done that i didn't really see it as a cheap cheap shot i think juju knew that dude is probably coming up to hit him in the face dude i think he knew it no way no way i mean never see it yeah i mean i don't think so but all right i want to talk about the chief side of this quickly before we um move on the only listen officially worried about Harrison Buckker. There's no way around it. And that makes me very concerned for a high leverage playoff spot.

Oddly, for the regular season, and I think you saw it last on Sunday night, there is a benefit to Buckker struggling. It is going to force Andy into being a little more aggressive on fourth down. So the Kansas City Star had an article.

Since Patrick took over, going into Sunday night, the chiefs had faced 86 different, fourth and three or longers inside their own 30. And they had kicked a field goal all 86 times. And then they went for it Sunday night.

Now, part of that might have been because the lions are such a potent offense, but the other piece of it is, Bucker's not automatic at the moment, and I think the Chiefs being aggressive on fourth down is a net positive. I still think they need to trade for a running back, but Patrick now has full confidence in his offensive line,

and Patrick with full competence in his offensive line and is semi-competent, much less what is about to be an excellent receiving core, immediately makes the Chiefs the most dangerous offense in football again. Immediately. Yeah, and with that, Kelsey's had probably arguably his best game of the season. What are you expected to see you from him when Rice gets back and you got the whole gang? Well, so that's, so now you're going to, listen, Juju has been awesome in his role. Yeah.

But that's going to be Rishi. Rice's role. And now you're going to have Rishi Rice doing some intermediate stuff. Kelsey doing intermediate stuff. Xavier and Tyquan Thornton, both being deep threats. And Patrick, with protection, dialed in being able to hit any quadrant on the field. Again, Pacheco's got to be better. And I wish they had just a competent running game. I think I think Pacheco is who Scada Bacadabu is who Pacheco thinks that he is. I think that when he runs and how he feels his physical makeup, he feels like Cam Scatabu. By the way, and Pacheco's faster than Scatabu.

Yeah. Or he was. And Pachaco was that. And then he broke his leg. The tubular thing. Yeah. Yeah. And he just hasn't been the same ever since then.

also not this isn't me being a padant and i don't want to be annoying but i just i i don't have it you combined oddly you combined the two bones in the leg into one it's fibula and tibula no no fibula and tibia tibia i think it's tibia and fibula and i think you did tibula which is actually not terrible because i don't know which one he broke of the two but they are two different bones. Tibia and fib. I think it was, I think it was,

I think it was fib, but might have been Tim. Who knows? But regardless. The, so, no, the offense is go,

they need a little bit more consistent pass rush, but they're just the best team. And, and they now get the incredibly rare. I think the I think the

first time all not yet definitely the first time all year the chiefs play a non-descript 1 p.m. Sunday game week seven and they still get nansen Romo because they're the chiefs but they have gone from Friday night Brazil Sunday afternoon Super Bowl rematch

with Tom Brady in KC. Sunday night football against the Giants. The 4.30 p.m. CBS game with Nansen Romo. Monday night against the Jags, Sunday night against the Lions. Now, just a regular

1 p.m. game, but it's still Nancy Romo. And then it's back to normal for Kansas City. When the next weekend, they're on Monday night football against the commanders. And the next weekend, they are on the big 425 CBS game with and Romo. And sure feels like they're going to be five and three going into that Bill's game. And I feel really good about it.

All right. Tailgator says that I need to stop bullying Brian Branch. I did feel a little badly about that. I'll be honest. Like just now? Like on the like what you saw? The pod? Yeah.

when I was doing it I was like the guy really did seem sad it's like when you're bullying him even more like you're actually bullying him now yeah I am but I don't know maybe that was maybe that was mean but I really didn't like him hitting juju in the face juju's nose yeah I was just about to say he had a nose

I mean that was like a real hit man and what I really didn't like was Patrick seeing it and then running to the fight. And then there was a moment where, like, Patrick gets lost in the rise of bodies. Yeah. Yeah, that was, I didn't love, I tell you, I didn't love that. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet,

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.

Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall.

And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get to fly. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the bar.

Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah. You figure it out. quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the balls. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcasts presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne.

Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast.

We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? They had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just take it.

What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? I would. Come on. Can you believe? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake.

That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. You are. I'm not a killer. I love this team.

And I'm really. trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Damase, now we can get to the Monday Night Football doubleheader. Yeah, so who would have saw Atlanta upsetting Buffalo? I guess you kind of did, and you were right. Well, I mean, not entirely.

To be fair, you saw it kind of coming. I would have. I didn't even include it. Atlanta plus the points is one of my picks. But I did think they were live. And I also thought Atlanta was the hardest team in the league to kind of get a beat on. Because week one, they play a, you know, a tight game comes down to a miss field goal against the bucks. They get annihilated by Carolina.

But Carolina's oddly been a good team at home. They beat Washington, but Washington doesn't have Jaden Daniels. and then there's one other game they played. I forgot what it was. And then they had a buy. And so I just thought Atlanta was a little bit of a, I don't want to say unknown. Oh, they beat the Vikings 22 to 6 in a weird game when Wintz, like, no, when J.J. McCarthy was in and then J.J. McCarthy's been hurt since then.

But go ahead. Sorry. Oh, yeah. So Bejohn and Drake London accounted for 396 of 443 yards on offense. Buffalo has dropped their second straight and Josh Allen's and Pee odds are up to plus 300 he's number two by my homes

Is it time for the Josh Allen is the best player in the NFL chance to come to a similar? All right so again Hold on let me find the exact quote Let me see why I should have looked this up beforehand Okay so

This is You guys know that I actually have been pretty pro bills the last couple of years. Last year, I, when everybody thought they might be in a rebuild, I thought they'd make the AFC championship game. I thought they'd be really good. They were. This year, I once again picked them to go to the AFC championship game,

and I've been pretty consistent that I think Josh is the second best quarterback in football. I with that said that Josh Allen hyperbole on some of these things has always mystified me and the example of it this year is three weeks ago after a Monday night football game against the dolphins when Josh was good don't get me wrong but it was against the dolphins and it was against the Dolphins and that game, if you remember, was really close late. And it was coming on the heels of a Jets game where they annihilated the Jets, but he was a James Cook game. Josh had thrown for 140 yards and no touchdowns. Greenie on Get Up says, quote, I'm watching that game last night.

and no one has ever played that position better than Josh Allen. Again, the quote is, no one has ever played that position better than Josh Allen. And it just seems like we are so eager to anoint the next guy when we're in the midst of the guy that we sometimes you know, get a little ahead of ourselves. With that said, listen, Josh's had a rough couple weeks. I still think he's the second best quarterback in football. I also think that it was likely unsustainable the streak he was on, on not turning the ball over.

And now all of a sudden you've seen he's turned the ball over four times in the last three years. games and the bills, in my opinion, have real, real question marks. They have four wins. They beat Baltimore, which at the time we thought was an awesome win, the defense allowed 40, and they needed that late comeback to beat them. Baltimore has won one game since then. they beat the Jets in one of the weirdest games of the year because they outscored them 30 to 10 despite Josh and they outgained them for it not weird but they it was they just ran all over

them. They outgained them 400 to 154 and the Jets had no shot. The Jets by the way of won zero games all year. They beat the Dolphins in a game Josh played great but in a game that also was. tied with they were tied with the dolphins with seven and a half minutes left. The dolphins have won one game all year. They beat the Saints in a game that the Saints thought they took the lead in the fourth quarter only to have a touchdown overturned. They had to settle for a field goal and that game was a two point game in Buffalo with

seven and a half minutes left. The Saints have won one game all year. They then lost to the Patriots. and got thoroughly handled last night by Atlanta. And were, in my opinion, lucky to have a shot to steal that game because Atlanta, after doing anything it wanted for the first three-quarter, first quarter and a half, the offense kind of went comatose on them. And the bills are now in a spot where they have squandered already,

DeManzette. what was supposed to be their biggest edge for this season, which is an incredibly soft schedule that would lead them to their first one seed since Jim Kelly was the quarterback. And now they wake up this morning, and they're not even leading their division. And they still have games left against the Chiefs, against the bucks, at the Patriots, against the Eagles, at the Steelers, at the Texans.

And you just wonder, is this going to be another year where Buffalo, I still think they're going to win the division, by the way. Like, don't get me wrong. I would obviously bet. You wouldn't put a taste on New England winning the division at plus 185. it's only plus 185. Is that right? I guess Vegas thinks so too.

No, I mean, no, that's, I might put something on Buffalo minus 230. I like, no, I, I still think Buffalo, I would have thought Buffalo is minus 300 to win the division. Not believing in New England? No, but, but no, I mean, I think New England, I pick New England to make the playoffs. I just think Buffalo is still going to win a. 11 games at least, and I don't see New England. You know, and so, but regardless, my point is this, it sure looks like it's going to be a season like we've seen a lot with the bills

where they win the division, but they don't get the buy, they beat the hell out of the team in the wild card round, and then they play someone in their weight class in the divisional round or the Conference Championship game and get beaten. And that was, it's really crazy how bad that defense has looked this year. Again, the Panthers only scored, I'm sorry, the Falcons only scored 24 points. They move the ball at will. Drake Mayette is coming out party against them.

They, they seem to, even though I don't know that the same. stats back it up. They just seem to be a defense that can get got. And Josh is a great, great player. But the conservative low risk style that he's been playing the last year and a half really doesn't fit if you don't have a defense that you can rely on to get stops. I don't think they have that defense this year. And so I, right now, if I had to pick it, DeMonze, I would still say Chiefs Bill's

AFC championship game. But now we're staring at a very real possibility that game is going to be an arrowhead. When the chief, the bills were 4 and 0 with the Chiefs at 1 and 2. about to face the Ravens. Life comes at you fast, man. And the bills also need a good win. They just need a good one. What are you laughing about?

You got to get on top of your division first. Well, yeah, same with Buffalo. Yeah, that's true. I mean, same with Buffalo. And I am, well, we'll get to the Chargers and the Broncos in a minute. Let's talk Falcons just for a second. Yeah, so it's It feels like Michael Pinks

Has kind of gotten lost in the shuffle As far as quarterbacks in his drive class What do you make of Michael Pinnock's as now? Yeah, I mean, I guess he's going to still be a little lost in the shuffle with me Because I like There are certain things you really like There's also like last night When that game was wrapped essentially,

all Atlanta need do was run the ball three times kick a field goal with two minutes left, they called a pass play that Pennix made a horrific decision and it was this close being a pick six tie game when the game was basically over. So some of that concerns me, but Drake London is really good. And Bejohn is just sensational.

And I spoke highly on him. Yeah, I mean, listen, I picked him to win offensive player of the year as a rookie. Here's what Bijan's done since he came into the league. His rookie year, he had 980 rushing yards, 480 receiving yards. So he had 1,460 yards with eight touchdowns. Really good. Not not super elite, but really good. Last year, he had 1450 rushing yards, another 430 receiving yards, and 15 touchdowns. Alit. This year, he has 480 rushing yards and already 330 receiving yards, only three touchdowns, but is on pace to shatter, I think, the yards from scrimmage record for a season. He's got 800 yards from scrimmage through five games.

I don't pay to cash my bet, though. My God. What's your bet? That was, I had Bijan to score the most rushing touchdowns. Oh, that's such a bad beat. I mean, it's not a bad beat, but it's so crazy. Right, you get all the yards. Right, exactly. Yeah.

So, like, just for context on what he's doing as a receiver, he has 338 receiving yards. Again, they've already had their buy. So he's played five games. Jamar Chase, who is fifth, Chase and Abuka. Yeah. Abuca have 468 and 469 receiving yards in an extra game. So he's averaging.

That's ridiculous. I mean, that's crazy. He is on a yards per game basis. Right now, he is, where is? Oh, I can't sort by that. But I mean, he's 68 receiving yards a game. he's top 20 in the NFL. He's so good.

He's so good. By the way, the Falcons do. My NFC playoff picks to Monzae going into the year, not in order, but just the seven. Eagles commanders, Lions Packers, Bills, hold on, wait. I'm going to have something wrong. Oh, no, that's right. You know what? I take it back.

It was Eagles, Commanders, Lions, Bears. Packers, Bucks, Rams. I had the Falcons in, and then the Pinnock's trade happened, and I took them out and put the Packers in. So that's what it was. Did I say the Pinnock's trade? The Parson's trade happened. Pardon me.

When the Parsons trade happened, I put the Packers in because I had them out. That's what it was. I was like, wait, did I have eight playoff teams? But no, I think Atlanta's, I think Atlanta's at least semi-legit. All right, let's talk about the other Monday night game. So the Bears pulled out the upset. in that inclement weather. A lot of turnovers for Washington.

Some of it was the weather. Some of them were just turnovers. So we now have two good games between these two teams. What did this game mean for either one of them? Did it mean anything for anybody? Well, let's know. The Bears, I don't think played great, but they got a win. And this is, you know, last year, the Bears deserved some wins they didn't get.

They've now had back-to-back games where they got wins. by the way, in one of the most unlikely occurrences, totally meaningless, but one of the most unlikely occurrence is probably in NFL history, the Bears have won back-to-back games by the exact score of 2524. Like that, you know, that, I don't know if that was a score agami, but that is, that's not a score you see often. And they've now done it in back-to-back games.

So the Bears, they lose a hard. Heartbreaker in week one to the Vikings. They get annihilated by Detroit. And then play great against Dallas, play poorly, but win against the Raiders, and play okay, and win against the commanders and had some tough calls go against them. You know,

so maybe they felt like they deserved it. But it would have been Demonsé, a crushing loss. Yeah. You can't win the turnover battle three nothing. It would, and lose that game. You just can't.

So the Bears now, they get the Saints at home, like all of a sudden, what was supposed to be a very tough stretch in the middle of their season, look at their next four. Home for the Saints, then back-to-back road games, which going into the year, you would have said, oh, my God, that's just tough of a back-to-back road game as any team has all year. At the Ravens, at the Bengals. and then home for the Giants.

Now, the Ravens will have, he will be back. No, no, no, no, he will be back. But it'll also be Lamar's first. If you're going to have to play Lamar, playing him in his first game back would be the time to play him. And the Bengals are just stone dust. Like the Bengals are drawing to nothing.

And then you get the Giants. Like, the Bears now have a chance. I thought the running game looked good coming out of the by. I thought the run defense looked good. They are, you know, lucky for them, McLaurin didn't play. Again, I'm not trying to overhype the Bears, but they

they have started 0 and 2 and now they're 3 and 2 out of the by feeling like, all right, we're playing for something. And Caleb is again, up and down, but you're seeing some progression. Here's what I

will say about Jaden. And I don't know how closely everyone watched that game, last night, I know there were two games going on. Jaden get, take some tough hits, man. And I know I'm going to sound like a broken record on this. But he's coming,

he's, he's played two years or a year and a half. He has suffered an injury that made him mistime both years. Not a lot of time, but he's missed time both years. And yes, last night, he didn't seem to, like, be

protecting himself. That worries me. I the the interception was a terrible throw that's going to happen I'm not going to kill the guy he's take he's taking care of the ball throughout his career and the the fumble bubble or the yeah I mean I guess that's the rain it's the rain it's not good I mean it cost him the game you could argue I'm not going to kill him for that I would have cooked Caleb for doing that and the oh yeah they would have cooked him yeah yeah especially in that spot with a lead late in the game. And so, but here is what's crazy right now, DeMonsie, about where the command, the commanders are, there's obviously 16 teams in each conference. The commanders are three and three. Where do you think, don't look, where do you think they are right now standings-wise, one through 16 in the NFC?

In their division? No, in the conference. Or in the conference. One through 16. Call it eighth, ninth, between that. I don't want to say eight and ten. I don't know that's three answers, but in that range. No, no, no, it's fine.

They're 12th. Three and three and twelfth in the conference. NFC is loaded. Well, here's what's true about the NFC versus the AFC. The NFC has one team. with less than two wins. The Saints. And the Saints are oddly like frisky.

Right. The Saints, the Saints lost a close one to the Cardinals in week one, lost a close one to the Niners in week two, got annihilated by Seattle in week three, lost a close one to the bills in week four, beat the Giants, and lost a close one of the Patriots this week.

They're obviously not good, but they're not horrific. but they're the only one-win team in the NFC. The AFC, DeMonse, has five one or zero-win teams. Now, one of them's Baltimore, who we think is not really a one-win team because when Lamar gets back. But Miami, Cleveland, Tennessee, and the Jets are horrible. There's then also a two-win Bengals team. which is a zero-win team since Joe Burrow came back,

or since Joe Burrow got hurt, and a two-win Raider team that while I'm rooting for them, have not looked good. So it just feels like the AFC is, shockingly, just that all the bad teams are there. So the reason I'm mentioning that in this conversation is, for Bears commanders, the other reason this matters,

is if either of these teams going to make the playoffs, it's probably going to be through the wild card. And that head-to-head loss for the commanders is a big one. And speaking of playoff in the AFC, let me ask you this, because the only team that in the AFC that I don't know, like I'm very confident. And again, the Raiders thing makes me sad because I put so much take equity in them.

But all of the two or one or zero win teams in the AFC are just bad. That's Sensi Raiders, Ravens with an asterisk, Miami, Cleveland, Tennessee, and the Jets. The only team that has two wins that I'm not including in there is Houston as a bit of an unknown. Let's call Houston something of an unknown. And then the three or more win teams are Chiefs, Broncos, Jags, Bills, Patriots, Chargers, Steelers, Colts. So here would be my question for you.

I just listed eight teams. Let's assume. So the playoff picture, if we just, instead of even including the Steelers, we say if the Steelers fall out, it will be because Baltimore went, like that division is going to get one team. Pittsburgh or Baltimore, the AFC North. That leaves for the other three divisions, six playoff spots. Here are the seven teams vying for it. Colts, Chargers, Patts, Bills, Jags, Broncos, Chiefs.

Which of those seven is most likely to be odd man out? The Broncos. You say the Broncos. Yeah, you said Colts, Denver, yeah, I don't. I'll say it again. Bill's, yeah. Because I thought you were maybe going to say the Jags. I would also say the Broncos.

I believe in the Jags in their defense. I mean, Trevor Lawrence is, he's a little goofy, but I believe in that defense. Yeah. And what the Jags also have going for him is two games left against the Titans, a game left against the Jets, a game left against the Raiders, a game left against the Cor. Weaker division, right, as well. I agree with you. But one of those teams is going to be out.

All right. Before we get to maybe, not maybe, definitely, I think, the best game of Sunday afternoon. I want to talk to you guys about Chad Powers and our walk on Mount Rushmore. Eight years after flushing his promising college football career down the toilet, hot shot quarterback Russ Holiday tries to resurrect his dreams by disguising himself as Chad Powers. A talented oddball walks on to the struggling South Georgia catfish. Sidebar, this was something. I always wondered pre-Aakile surgery

if this was something that with the new NIL stuff and everything, I always had in the back of my head, I'm like, if DeMonzee at like 27 wanted to be like, hey, I want to try playing college basketball again, could he have done it? I don't know. Chad Powers did it. You wouldn't have had to wear disguised DeMazzee. Based on Eli Manning's

Eli's play segment from ESPN and Omaha Productions, make sure to check out Chad Powers now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle, subscribers. We're in week three of my Mount Rushmore of college football walk-ons, paying tribute to the legends who started no scholarship, no spotlight, and still carved out unforgettable careers. The first two were just stone locks, J.J. Watt and Baker Mayfield. Today, we add another guy that I think is a lock, and maybe it's a little recency bias. But Stetson Bennett, is my third on walk-on Mount Rushmore.

Stetson Bennett was a walk-on at Georgia and didn't take a snap his whole freshman season because Justin Fields committed to Georgia and Bennett decides to then transfer. So he doesn't play as a walk-on in 2017, obviously, and then transfers. He then goes to Jones College. He then goes back to Georgia.

and he sits behind Jake Frum. He then takes over the team in 2021, and I had these numbers up before. The numbers are good. Don't get me wrong. I mean, they're not unbelievable. He did lead the nation and passing yards, though, his senior year.

29 touchdowns, seven picks, his junior year. 27 touchdowns, seven picks, his senior year. But the reason he is on walk on Mount Rushmore is his junior and senior year, they won the national championship. Those two years, as a starting quarterback, they lost one game. Both of those years, Stets and Bennett, was the national championship game offensive MVP. He goes to Georgia and despite, being 510 maybe is the signal caller for two of the greatest college football teams of this era winning back-to-back national championships, winning back-to-back offensive MVPs in those

national championship games. He is our third person on walk-on Mount Rushmore. Make sure to check out Chad Powers, new episode streaming every Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball like, After you go through a training camp with that, I said, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, DeMonte, let's get to Bucks Niners. All right, so the injuries keep piling up and so do the Ws, man.

Your guy Baker is defying logic out here. How worried are you that they're peaking too early? I'm not worried at all because this was... If you guys remember in the preseason when I picked the bucks to go to the Super Bowl, the logic was, I think that they can be the one seat. And they are right now on Hard Rock Bet, the favorites to be the one seed. And you're about to see why. If we throw their schedule up and then we'll get to the actual game.

They have the next six weeks are tough at Detroit. Detroit, angry, coming off a loss is tough. At New Orleans, hard place to play should win. A bye week. Then home for New England at Buffalo at the Rams. But because they've already booked Demons A five wins, let's be pessimistic here about that middle stretch, okay? Right.

And say they go two and three. Beat New Orleans and then go one and three against Detroit, New England, Buffalo, and the Rams. right that would put them at seven and four going into a final six games of home Arizona home New Orleans home Atlanta at Carolina at Miami home Carolina they they easily can get to 13 wins this year even if they struggle the next month I I think that they have a real shot at 14 wins. And Baker, every week, every week, makes an MVP play.

Third and 14 this past week in a one-point game or whatever, I think it was a one-point game when he did it, him somehow escaping the rush and finding a scramble for 14 yards and then hitting the little guy from what, Tess. What's his name? Tess Johnson.

Tess Johnson, who de Monset weighs 145 pounds, hits him for the touchdown. Like, I mean, he was the 165. Yeah, oh yeah, Worthy's a lot taller there.

The Worthy's my height and is 165, or 165. Tess is a legit. one 45. I don't care what he's listed at. Um, and I mean, so no Mike Evans, no Godwin, Abuca goes out, his injuries on the offensive line. And I understand you're playing the Niners and they're like, we don't want to hear about injuries and poor Fred Warner. And that and the the Niners, by the way, are now done. That's not recoverable. Uh, it was unbelievable what they've been able to overcome so far.

But the defense is now going to be terrible every week, and Brock Purdy or Mac Jones aren't going to save you. So the Niners are to me, because of the injuries, a cross-off. I do want to talk about Baker and MVP, because this was a great, you should go to my, Twitter and check the replies to, I sent out last night the moment the Bills game ended. I sent out, um, uh, and just like that, your Vegas favorite for NFL MVP is dot, dot, dot, Patrick Mahomes. And the responses to that are just folks that literally can't read. Or idiots, I don't know. Not everyone, but a lot of them.

because that was not an opinion. That was a statement of fact. Now, to be fair, the odds hadn't posted yet. I just know how gambling works. And with Josh Allen being the favorite and Patrick already being ahead, like going into last night, it was Josh Allen won Patrick 2, Baker 3. And so Josh having that type of game was going to knock him down. Baker wasn't going to leap Patrick when not, you know,

week six for them was already baked in. To be clear, right now the MVP is Baker Mayfield. But that's different than they don't vote right now. But right now, if they did vote DeMonse, I don't think it's debatable. If they voted right now, Baker should get every vote.

His team's been awesome. They've dealt with a ton of injuries. He's been sensational. He's been clutch. He is. Right now the MVP. The odds are saying they think Baker's going to come down to Earth a bit and Mahomes is only going to get better.

And the other thing the odds are incorporating now is could the chiefs end up with a really good seed, which is really helpful with MVP? And so that's where, you know, but right now Baker's the MVP elite. What a story, man. What a story. I'm so happy for him. I'm so happy for Baker. All right, I want to get to the other games, including the Eagles loss on Thursday night,

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and get you all set up on Boost Mobile within minutes, no hassle. Visit boostmobile.com to get started. Delivery available for select devices purchased at boostmobile.com terms do apply. All right, DeMonsei, let's get to the other games from the weekend. Giants defeating the Eagles 34 to 17. Last week you said if Sey Kwan doesn't is quiet on Thursday, football football, it's fair to say that it'll be quiet all year. He didn't break 60 yards, so we're here.

And he had 30 on the first two plays. Right. It's weird. The Eagles are teetering. They're teetering. Now, what does teetering for the Eagles mean? They'll miss the playoffs. no.

But could they be staring at a year similar to the one the last time they made the Super Bowl where they make the playoffs and then get beat up in the first round of the playoffs because they're a team that really was never together all year, possibly. And the Giants just flat thoroughly outplayed them. And one of the concerns. for Philly all year was this really tough schedule. We gave them a ton of credit because despite the tough schedule, they found a way to start 4 and 0,

but then in what was supposed to be a bit of a softer portion of the schedule, home for the Broncos, and then one of your Giants games, you give those wins back, and you still have, on the schedule, at Green Bay, home for the lions, at the Chargers, at the commanders, at the bills, another commander's game, a Bears game, at the Cowboys. Like, not a lot of soft spots for a team that right now can't throw the ball. And right now doesn't have an offensive identity.

So I think that that and they don't have Seekwanda lean on. So yeah, I think it's, and for the Giants, listen, Jackson, Jackson, dart's going to get himself killed. It's fun. It's exciting. He's going to get himself killed. And I really did not like what Davele did in that game. I've never been like a huge, I felt really bad for Russell Wilson.

And also on top of it, you yelling at the guy whose job it is to look out for the player's safety. What if the guy is actually still like messed up? You're just trying to throw him back in the game. Oh, James Winston in the game or something. If you want to see Russell out there, I thought that was really, I didn't like how they did, most of that night. I thought that was crazy. That is a perfect take.

Everything you said there is 100% correct. Every piece of it. I think Daible should be fined a lot of money for that. Yeah. I think screaming at the doctor when you're checking a guy for a concussion is crazy. And also, listen, Daible, Daible, none of it made sense. first of all, to your point, if you are that horrified at the prospect of Russell Wilson coming into the game,

James Winston's on your roster. Now, they couldn't put James in because he's the emergency third quarterback. So if you put him in, you can only use your emergency third quarterback. If you use your emergency third quarterback, your previous two quarterbacks cannot go back in the game. They're done. It's like a baseball player who gets taken out. But you could have just made Jamis the backup and made Russie. Exactly.

Third quarterback. That's first of all. Second of all, if you don't trust Russell Wilson that much, then don't on the second play that he's in there, call a pass play. And this was the most damning. You saw once Dart, and then I'll get to the doctor part, once Dart went out of the game, you got a real test of how terrified you were without him. Yeah.

On the next drive he was back in, he called two. Quarterback runs. Like, what are you doing? So that's the football piece of it. The ethics piece of it is the head coach screaming at the team doctor can simply never happen. Especially when they're checking the guy for a concussion. Like, that just can't happen. And I thought that was a terrible look.

Correct. I agree with every single thing you said. All right. Let's quickly go through the other games. The London, we got the Broncos to feed the Jets 13 to 11. One of the worst football games in recent memory, I guess. That was pretty bad. Truly one of the worst football games ever played.

That was really bad. And listen, Nick Benito is one of the best players in the entire NFL. That Broncos defense is awesome. every single thing I've said about Bo Nix, not only is correct, it might have been too nice. And the Jets game management is just, Aaron Glenn is not covering himself in glory on this. But in his defense, Justin Fields was unplayably bad in that game.

That's one of the worst games I've ever seen. And there is no one in the world that with a straight face can say they feel better about the Broncos for getting that win. that team's offense is really a problem for one of the seven teams Sean Payton's ever coached that he thought could win the Super Bowl next. We got Panthers defeating the Cowboys 30 to 27. All right, we just have to accept this weird fact for the moment. The Panthers at home are a decent team.

I don't know what, I don't know why, and I don't know what the explains the discrepancy. But on the road, got annihilated by the Jaguars. They lost to the Cardinals. They got annihilated by the Patriots. At home, they beat the Falcons 30 to nothing, beat the dolphins and beat Dallas. And Rico Dowdow all of a sudden is unstoppable.

So, and the Cowboys, on the other hand, is have the worst defense in the league. Yeah. And every day you see more example of how much Micah Parsons was holding together by himself. Next. Speaking of that. Charger, no, no, no, we got Seahawks defeating the Jaguars 20 to 12. Yeah, the Seahawks are probably the best team that I haven't really talked much about. They're just a good team.

And this was a weird game. The Jags games have been so weird because they only scored 12 points and they lost. And it was, I think, one of Trevor's better games. Like, they've scored more points. and won and he hasn't played well. But Seattle's just good. Now Seattle's wins before the Jags game. No, that's not true.

They beat the Steelers. They've beaten the Jags. They beat the Saints and the Cardinals. They lost a game to the Niners that they had a chance to steal late. And they lost a Baker in one of Baker's crazy late game heroics. Like the Seahawks are just a good team. And Donald's playing awesome. Credit to him.

Like, Donald's playing really good. And the Jags, Brian Thomas just hasn't been right. Trevor hasn't been right. The defense is really good. And they're not getting enough out of Travis. They haven't figured out how to use Travis Hunter yet. Next.

We got the Chargers defeat the Dolphins 2927. That would have been a horrifying loss for the Chargers. Justin Herbert made an unbelievable play late in that game to shake off the rush and find McConkey. And that's a great win for the Chargers. You know, I do think that last AFC playoff spot, Chargers, Broncos, Jags, two will be in, one will be out,

so all of these games matter. And then after the game, we talked about the top of the show, but to his press conference, where he's like, who's responsible for team leadership? Is he like the reason? Yeah, that's the mean.

That's exactly right. Is he the reason McDaniel's not getting fired right now? I don't know. It's like, oh, if the quarterbacks, how come we really blame the coach? I don't know, but Tua's lack of accountability is jarring. And I... Every time he gets up there, it's the deflection.

Like, every single thing, it's deflecting towards the fans. Is this an unfair take? Is this an unfair take? The media gives Tua something of a pass for these post-game and pre-game comments that we wouldn't give other quarterback. because we all kind of feel badly about his concussion history. Yeah, I mean... You're shaking your head, so maybe that means you don't think that's a fair take. No, I mean, I just...

I think that, yeah. I just feel like criticism of Tua, it almost falls to me in my brain, like, if there's a weird almost like, Damar Hamlin feeling to it, which is like, man, this guy is, we, we have seen this guy go through so much. And the, so it feels like criticism is unfair. Like with, can you imagine if someone like, again, he's not a quarterback. But like, nobody would go on TV and be like, it's not the problem with

the bills. That's safety. Like nobody's going to come after tomorrow. Yeah, that's fair. Like, we saw him. And I feel like there's an element of that with Tua. Yeah. Where. 100% and yeah it can't be like I mean I don't want to say it can't be like that but at the same time

there has to be some type of accountability and if you can't grade him on the same scale constantly is throwing his teammates onto the bus constantly in games where he plays terribly

he threw three picks um all right next game uh we got Rams defeating the Ravens 17 to 3 oh my God Lamar Jackson means a lot to this organization

you think Yeah. Now, I mean, glass quarter full, the defense finally had a pulse. Yeah, because I definitely thought the Rams were going to carve them up. Yeah. Glass three quarters empty, one and five might be unrecoverable. Yeah, and you kept saying like our path is to win the division, Pittsburgh, it weird. No, they need pit. My point is they need Pittsburgh to fall apart. Yeah. You need Pittsburgh to fall apart.

Colts defeat Cardinals 31 27. Yeah, listen, I guess the cult are the other good team that I don't talk a lot about with the Seahawks. I mean, the cults have just been really good. And by the way, I now have a new kind of ideal if the chiefs can't get the one seed, which it's going to be tough. I hope the cults do. The cults getting the one seed means Arrowhead invitational is back on the table. I think I I'm serious

Colts get the ones the loser first playoff game Arrowed invitational back Like the that that exists But the cult up to this point Look really good Now flip side to the flip side Jacoby Brissette scored 27 on them

So that's not ideal But the offense and Daniel Jones look good next Patriots defeat the Saints 2519 The story of the Patriots right now is Mac Jones deserves real like bottom of the ballot MVP consideration. Like fifth place right now. He's been awesome. And he's a dude, man.

And so I don't think they have a ton of great weapons. And he is chucking that sucker downfield and carving up defenses. The Patriots got a horrific whistle in that game. Had some phantom calls take away huge plays. They overcame it. Next. Steelers defeat the Browns 23 to 9. credit the Steelers man off of by continuing to win um Dylan Gabriel looked terrible like really bad

and you see the thing that he did when the guy hit him he like pushed him like the guy hit him it wasn't really a late hit he threw it and then he hits Gabriel and then Gabriel grabs him by his shoulder pads and like mushes him into the ground like he like he got like a little angry at Dylan Gabriel size yeah I didn't see that the browns are terrible Steelers I I need to pay more attention to the Steelers. I have thought it's kind of smoke and mirrors, but they're now four and one. They have the second best record in the AFC.

I got to give them credit. Next. A Raiders defeat the Titans 20 to 10. That's just a horrible game. I mean, good for the Raiders for winning it, but the Titans are just like, we'll see what the Titans look like now that Brian Callahan's been fired. Next.

Packers defeat the Bengals, 2718. Not a great win by the Packers. I mean, a win's a win. But they haven't looked great. Off a buy. They haven't won a game. They hadn't won a game since September 12th or something.

And I mean, they controlled that entire game, but not great. And now this from Levitard show, these sons of bitches. Go ahead. Oh, wait. Is this a vampire or a werewolf? How dare Dan Lebitard send this tweet? You kind of do with like Hotel Transylvania. A little bit.

Okay. I sent Levitard's crew a video recapping my... Long story short is this. Dan and I bet five grand on Chiefs Lions. He then, for some reason, thought we were betting a white Corvette because the guy does... I don't get it. I then wanted my money. He then felt bad because it seems like he thought...

it was a gag, but I made the point of, if I wasn't betting with him, I would have bet that elsewhere. So like now all of a sudden am I going to lose money? But I had told Dan, I was playing in a huge poker game last night. And so I said if I won in the poker game, he could distribute my winnings from him to the rest of his staff. And I sent him a video saying, sadly, I lost in the poker game. I need my five. So I'm going to need that money. I'm going to need that.

I'll run me that money. I'm going to need that money. So that's the long story short of that. If you haven't been listening to my, you know, I don't have occasional appearances with the Lovetard crew. All right. Let's quickly do some listener questions before I go. Corrin says if Chiefs ended only getting a wild card and went all the way and won the Super Bowl,

what would the media's take on it be? Well, I mean, in the mean, in the very short term, it would once again be you can never doubt the Kansas City Chiefs. And then come about mid-September next year, we'd get new round of is the dynasty now over? Like, they're just going to step on that rake every year. Next. Christopher says no talk of Seahawks in the discussion for top teams, despite number two quarterback this season, number one wide receiver and number one defensive line. Listen, Chris, that might, I don't think I would quite have Darnels, the number two quarterback, but he's been excellent. And that's an obviously Jackson Smith and Jigva has been unbelievable.

The D-line under Mike McDonald's been really good. The Ravens Stevens hadn't been the same since he left. That's a fair critique, man. It's a fair critique that we've been under discussing Seattle. That's fair. Next. North asked, do you still have the Ravens win in the division? No, I'd have Pittsburgh playing it.

I mean, the odds, DeMonte, it's not, the Ravens have better odds right now to win the division than the Patriots. Yeah, like that's crazy. Yeah, Lamar, he's hopefully can come back and scorch it. Come back and just got to get on like an instant five-game winning streak. Yeah. Anaki says, hi, Nick, follow you from Spain. I have a question. What's more shocking for you watching the sports compared to 2000?

Athleticism of almost any quarterback or automatic 50-yard field goals. No, the quarterback stuff. I think I would have thought that, you know, field goal kicking is going to continue to progress. but these I mean these superhero quarterbacks are unlike really anything we had in the past alright last one uh Kofrika asked should the Bengals have traded for James Winston instead of flaco that's what I would have done

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