The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - NFL Week 7 Reaction: Chiefs BLOW OUT Raiders, Lions STIFLE Bucs, Commanders COOKED? | Nick Wright

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.  Nick Wright recaps a whacky Week 7 of the NFL season, starting with Patrick Mahomes and his Kansas City Chiefs returning to their peak form against the Las Vegas Raiders. Then, Nick breaks down a Monday Night Football doubleheader between Baker Mayfield's Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Jared Goff's Detroit Lions, and CJ Stroud's Houston Texans and Sam Darnold's Seattle Seahawks. After, Nick debates if everything is fixed with Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles, and whether or not Bo Nix and the Denver Broncos should feel good about their historic comeback vs. Jaxson Dart's New York Giants. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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coming up. We might have to do something special for that. DeMaze, great to see you as always. Good to see what's right with Nick Wright shirt, which I didn't even know existed in the wild. Looks great on you. A ton to do today after, let me just say this on the front end.

The World Series is now set. Basket in fact, just, you know what, let's do this. Straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile. Hoshou Ryu, I think I pronounce that properly. won the sumo grand championship in amazing fashion.

I really do want to go see sumo wrestling in Japan live. When I was in Japan a couple years ago, I was not able to. I think it would be unbelievable to go. I think it's super cool. Blue Jays Dodgers World Series is set in the NBA season tips off tonight. To give a perspective of how football-centric I am, mentally this time of year is, well, the perspective is given by the fact that the Dodd, the World Series being set and the NBA season tipping off tonight is missing the cut

rather than being its own segments. I am, during October, I am just, the football still feels like I'm just so happy it's back. I'm excited. And I'm actually, I've actually been really into these baseball playoffs, but, and I thought the ALCS was unbelievable theater. And George Springer put in the dot guys where George Springer ranks in all-time playoff home runs. It's got to be crazy. I bet he's top five in the history of the sport in post, and maybe I'm going to look like a total moron, but in postseason home runs, because he had all.

All those playoff runs with the Astros, one of World Series MVP, and then last night, hit one of the sickest home runs in recent baseball history. His Blue Jays are going up against Otani's Dodgers, and Otani's obviously fresh off maybe the greatest baseball game ever played.

Three bombs, 10 strikeouts to clincher World Series' birth, and I'm still, oh, Hubs just text me. Hubs, shout out to the first thing's first crew for watching the pod. They said tied for third. Oh, this is big. So Hubs text me tied for third. Daniel says either tied for third or number two. They're going to continue to research.

All right. Springer is just an all-time postseason performer. With that said, it's a little unfair back in the day. day like when Babe Ruth was playing and then through Mickey Mantle and some of the all time legends the only playoff series you played was the world series you had the regular season then into the world series you have as many opportunities but still Springer a legend um so that's all super exciting the NBA season starts tonight that's super exciting uh Stephen A seems to want to rekindle uh his beef with LeBron that's less exciting I with all that said

I can't get into any of it, really, and he is tied for third. Thank you, guys. Because how many home runs does he need for most all time? I'm curious. I think he's at 23. And who is most? In fact, tell me who's first and second. Manny Ramirez with 29.

Holy smokes, Manny. All right, so he's not going to get there. But I'm not doing really any of that because I'm so into football right now. With that said, and the first of that. Jose Al Tuve, one of his teammates in Houston's in second with 27. With that said, I feel like

the last 48 hours a little too much football. I'm just from 9.30 in the morning, London game. Yeah. That was a must watch, Rams Jags, even though it

turned into a laffer. Yeah. Then the 1 o'clock slate then the four o'clock slate then a sneaky good Sunday night game falcons niners and then last night one of the most important games of the year is at seven this all eastern in bucks lions and then a texan seahawks game that ended at 1 30 in the morning we ended at 1 30 in the morning so let me just do this in in real time right like it from between 9 30 in the morning sunday morning to 1 30 in the morning tuesday morning that is exactly 40 hours right is 9 30 yeah it has to be that's exactly 40 hours of those 40 hours 930 until 11 30 there's 14 and then 7 30

Of those 40 hours, I spent 20 and a half of them watching professional football. Call it 20 even because the half hour in between Sunday night football kicking off and the end of the 4 or 30 games. So 9.30 a.m. Sunday to 1.30 a.m. Monday night slash Tuesday morning is a 40 hour window. 20 hours. I'm watching football. It was too much, man. Texans, Seahawks needed to end. And especially because the Texans had no interest in competing. Well, that's not fair.

Their defense was interested in competing. Their offense is broken. You'll get more to that. But I just, I feel like my eye. Now part of that also probably DeMontza has to do with is a long, as you know, you know, we are in the waning moments of your mother's birthday week. And that can really get. Yeah.

It's a lot. It's a lot of going out. I have the daily tasks up a little bit. It's a lot of people in the house. It's a lot of women here. It's a lot of can you run to Zabars? Can we do this? It's a lot more tequila than I in my older age, you know, typically enjoy.

It's a lot of weight. You're taking a nap just so you can then get up. and go out and then so it's been it's been a long few days but luckily one thing is back to normal he's are back and that is the chiefs reminder to everyone like rate subscribe review to the pod itunes spotify uh youtube demonsay the chiefs are the chiefs go ahead the chiefs are back in business man uh so rishi rice is back he dropped two touchdowns. Mahomes is thrown for 250 plus for two straight games.

The trick players are back in full effect. Is this the version of the Chiefs that we should start expecting to see from here throughout? Well, listen, 31-0 and I don't want to spend a ton of the Chiefs are so back that I almost thought should we even lead with them

because them demolishing the Raiders doesn't even feel super news. A shutout though. But a shutout. First shutout of Andy Reed's career. How about that? Oh, that's a surprise. Yeah, first shutout for Can City since 2011, a game against the Raiders.

By the way, Mahomes has played eight games in his career to Monzae where he beat the opposition by 28 or more, five of the eight against the Raiders. The Chiefs had 31st downs. The Raiders ran 30 plays. It was like 83 yards of offense, the Raiders had. I mean, it's just awful. Now, despite that, nobody believes me on this until they go look it up. And I don't, listen, awful announcing is probably going to clip this or what I did on TV. They'll clip it.

And the good people at pro football focus are going to be mad at me. But pro football focus needs to have an all hands meeting where they do some real soul searching. and I will you know what let me see if I can find the exact story Charlie Batch Total QBR best game is what I um okay this is

so when ESPN I'm going to tell a quick story when ESPN first rolled out total QBR their proprietary metric that was going to basically be like a far greater passer rating okay so people get these things confused passer rating is not QBR passer rating is a formula that's existed forever it's really weird a perfect score is 158.3 25% of your score uh is based on your completion percentage 25% is based on

your yards per attempt 25% is based on your touchdown percentage 25% is based on your interception percentage that's it it's static you can you can take any quarterback any game type it into the formula and it spits out people get that conflated because it's called passer rating or quarterback rating with qbr which is espm's proprietary stat that when it's proprietary like other people can't recreate it that is supposed to DeMonse take everything into account. Basically, so one weakness to pass a rating is you get no credit for anything you do with your legs.

So QBR takes that into account avoiding sacks. It's a lot of stuff. Time with the ball home. Is that also in there? Say it again. How quickly you're getting a ball out or is that not matter? No, I think it's, I'll be, it's right there, so I don't know. I think it's all of it.

Oh. And they, when they first rolled it out, 10 years ago, people were excited. Like, hey, this is a cool new way to grade quarterbacks. And Florio discovered, to his credit, that based on their proprietary algorithm, that graded every quarterback game played, I think they dated, you know, they did it, they went retroactive when they rolled. it out. The single best quarterback performance of the 2000s by the initial version of ESPN's QBR

was a Charlie batch game where he threw for 186 yards and two interceptions. By their proprietary metric, that was the greatest quarterback game played on record. And so you know what ESPN's, end did once they realized that they said hey there's a flaw in our proprietary algorithm we're going to pull it back tweak some things and figure out why why that game ended up being called the greatest game ever 186 yards two touched it or two interceptions pardon me and that was smart like i understand that folks sometimes like we believe in the algorithm we should and tweak it, but if something is so on its face wrong, you have to admit there's a problem in your process. I tell that long story to say this. I think the people at pro football

focus in general do good work. I think they're valuable. If they are not having meetings this week where they say, guys, what is wrong without? our quarterback grading system because something must be wrong with it. And this is the piece to Monzae you're not going to believe. Pro Football Focus's quarterback rating system said on Sunday, Gino Smith played a better game than Patrick Mahomes. He's to be tweaked. They published that.

They put that out to the world. They said from a passing perspective, on Sunday, Gino was the 12th best quarterback in the league with a 67 grade. And Patrick Mahomes was the 16th best on Sunday with a 62 grade. It is that single fact means the way you're doing it is broken. there is no there is no way to massage it or work around to where if in a game in that game you spit out the answer that actually when you really look with a discerning eye gino through the ball better than patrick it means your system's broken and it is important in all facets of life when you are presented with unequivocal evidence that part of your process is wrong to reevaluate your process.

And again, I like pro football focus in general. One of the original PFF guys, Sam Monson, who now does his own thing, does a great podcast called Check the Mic. I like him a lot. I have a lot of respect for these folks. But it will show a organizational and institutional. arrogance if they don't try to correct course on this. And again, I'm not talking about a season long grade. I'm not talking about the way I'm saying this very, you should have a moment where you say,

guys, what's going on here? If we're supposed to be the smart folks and our information says, Gino Smith threw the ball better in that game than Patrick Mahomes. and I'm interested to see if they do it. So there's that. Now to answer your question, is this going to be the standard for the chiefs? And this was so much of my frustration

about the concern trolling over the last couple years about Kansas City. All Patrick's ever needed is an offensive line he trusts and receivers will be in the right place. You give him that, and they're the best offense in the league. period point blank. Now, I will say, Josh Simmons, the rookie left tackle,

who's just been gone for two weeks now, and Andy Reid is giving us no information about it, it's concerning. Omar Norman Lott, their second round pick, tore his ACL, so that's your first round pick, who's gone, and don't know if and when he's coming back,

and your second round pick who's lost for the season. That's not ideal. They need pass rush help. I'm not going to act like they're, a perfect team. Luckily, you don't have to be the perfect team to be far and away the best team in football. And right now, they're far and away the best team in football. Because the Detroit Lions last night, and we'll get to them, looked pretty awesome, dealing with all the same defensive injuries they had against the Chiefs, plus a suspended Brian Branch. And the Chiefs

beat them handling. So Kansas City is deservedly the big favorites now, the favorites and everything, the Monzae, the Super Bowl, the AFC, the AFC West, and Mahomes the favorite for MVP. And it just feels great that we've kind of gotten back to what is equilibrium for the NFL in 2020, which is it's the Chiefs and then everybody else. Just need a running back now. That's all. I don't think they're going to trade for one.

I think if they trade for anyone, it's going to be a delinement. Well, with Mahom saying that we want to be better than what we are now, what improvements would you expect? I guess that's the improvement you would expect it to make. I mean, they need to get a better pass rush, and I'd like a more consistent running game. But the reporting is they're not trading for a running back. And folks are, the other thing they want to know is what of those,

what's the best bet right now for people jumping on the bandwagon? And the answer is the best bet's probably one you should have made a few weeks ago. I mean, you could have gotten the Chiefs for real. You could have gotten the Chiefs at 12, 13 to 1 to win the Super Bowl. You could have gotten them at plus 300 to win the division. If I were going to make any, if the Chiefs to win the AFC West at minus 130, feels like the safest bet of all those. my homes at plus 125 is just it's just not a good enough number a week ago you could have gotten

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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Genschen went. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck.

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Big deal. Just real quick, let's talk about Mike Evans. One of the coolest streaks in football history is done now. Mike Evans, who it's 11 straight. eight years of a thousand yards, came in the league in 2014, had a thousand yards receiving or more every single year. And a, I mean, his fourth year, De Manzae, he had a thousand and one. His seventh year, he had a thousand and six.

Last year, he had a thousand and four and got it on the final play of the season. I remember you. They were trying to get it for him. It's, it's so funny. He's, he's has, I'm trying to. get this exactly right 11 straight years with a thousand yards four of those five of those 11 he did not get to 1100 and then he had two 1100 yards seasons a 1,200 yard a 1,300 yard a 1,300 yard a 1,500 yard, a 1,500 yard um and you know so he had one monster year with the 1,500 before brady got there but he's just been wildly consistent

it's now over. And his seat, depending on how bad the collarbone break is, his season could be over. You got to hope he can be back for the postseason. This is my Super Bowl pick. As good as a Bucca's been, they need Mike Evans back. So that's important. And they, you know, the, the, the bucks to their credit dealt with all the injuries as well as any team and football could have. and it was really important.

They got the, you know, the win against the Seahawks, the win against the Niners. The loss, beating the Lions would have really put them in the catbird seat and the NFC. Losing, they're still okay. And they were in it. I feel like they still did it pretty good. Like the defense kept them in the game,

Baker just couldn't really get anything going on offense. Baker couldn't anything going. And I, before I get to the Lions, I want to say just one other thing. What? No, I thought nothing. I know Gibbs is. carving them up.

No, Gibbs is unbelievable, but I want to say something about officiating. Okay. Because the Lions spent all week crime. Fans more than the players.

But about correctly called, a correctly called play. And Lions Media, I got Mike Valenti on the ticket in Detroit saying the NFL's wrestling and their script writers

and all that. And then you saw last night where just a horrifically officiated game. And I don't blame officials for anything. I'm making an observation, including an instance where the referees said, we review to play, here's our ruling. Wait a minute.

We're going to review it a second time. And in fact, change our ruling and tell the Lions, we're going to give you your challenge and timeout back. The point I have made for three years and I will make again. for everyone that hyperventilates about the chiefs and the refs is a very simple one. Officiating professional football is very, very, very difficult. And I think guys are doing their best. And I can't even say they're not good at it.

They might be the best you can be, but it's hard to do. and if you are in a stand-alone national TV game, you are going to see a lot of questionable calls. The Chiefs play more standalone national TV games than anyone, and they usually win the games. Therefore, there's a lot of moments you remember of, oh man this bad call helped kansas city and if you look at if you change your perspective and just say is there awful officiating in every standalone national tv game it makes you a lot less conspiratorial

because last night's officiating was a wreck the whole time and it's just because it's because it's really hard to officiate in this league. So the Lions went from two weeks ago. The Lions are mad or a week ago for a correctly called play that they thought they got help from New York on. Last night, they benefited from a double review, which I'd never seen. Guys, it's just going to be happening.

It's just officiating in the NFL. It's not one team versus another. Now, as far as the Lions team goes, that was a great win, De Manzai. If they lose there, they've lost to Green Bay and Tampa and they have three losses. Now, instead of that, they have the head-to-head tiebreaker with Tampa, and they're just a half game behind Green Bay. So that's a great win for the Lions. My concern would be this.

Does, is it fair to you? Do you think it's fair for me to say, golf just seems a little shakier this year? I know his numbers have been great. But it just feels, he doesn't feel quite as crisp as last year. But Gibbs is unbelievable. I mean, Gibbs is an unbelievable player. But that's my, And they have a whole other guy.

Their roster to me is ridiculous. He just got a lot of stuff over there. Brad Holmes serves a ton of credit. They've drafted so well. And he's taking unconventional positions for great players. I mean, everybody killed the Gibbs pick. People didn't love the Laporte of pick. That is awesome.

Gibbs is unbelievable. And he's always fresh because they use Montgomery. Exactly. I mean, they have, you know, Gibbs is a great football player. All right, what's your Packers follow up here?

The four win Packers are somehow the one seed after this game. Does that feel kind of weird through seven weeks of football? It feels weird just from a record perspective. There's been seven weeks. They have four wins. They're the one seed because they've had a buy and they have a tie. And there's no other one. lost team. The other reason it feels weird is this. I don't feel like the Packers have played

great post week one. I thought they played amazing in week one against Detroit. And since then, they've just been okay. And so yeah, I mean, long season. All right, let's get to the long night part of last night, the late game. So the Seahawks moved to five and two after taking care of the Texans who could not get it done on offense. With that said, how seriously should we be taking Seattle. I'm going to take them seriously at this point. So I think here's a take, DeMonze. I'm curious how this lands with everyone.

Seattle, the seriousness that folks, some folks are demanding, the level of seriousness that some folks are demanding, we take the cults, I will take the Seahawks. I think the Seahawks, I understand the Colts are six and one, and the Seahawks are five and two. I think the Seahawks are a more sustainable team and a scarier postseason team than Indy. Because what the Seahawks have right now is just a brilliant defensive coach with a defensive front that is just annihilating people. William has been unreal all year. A quarterback that's super competent,

maybe a little too confident at times in Darnold. And Jackson Smith and Jigba is really making a case that he is the best receiver in football. Like I still would have Jefferson and Chase ahead of him. And, you know, he's right there with Puka. but every week he feels like he's the best, like that's just based on track record. He has been absolutely phenomenal this season.

So the Seahawks, that defense, that coach, that receiver, that's a real team. Now, and by the way, like, in FC West, Demandze, Rams 5 and 2, Niners 5 and 2, Seahawks 5 and 2. Holy smokes. So you take the right now at plus 275? No, I, no, I wouldn't. I would take the Rams still.

I would still take the Rams, but I don't think, let me, I think the Seahawks should, they're undervalued at plus two, I think they're more likely to win the division than San Francisco is. I know they lost to San Francisco head to head. But the Seahawks now have a buy. Then they get the commanders in a game Jaden may or may not play. Then it's the Cardinals.

Then a huge game against the Rams. And then they have the Titans. So they're staring at very realistically being eight. eight and three going into the stretch run. So, yeah, no, I'm taking the Seahawks very seriously. All right, you want to talk about Houston? Yeah, who should the finger be pointed out over there in Houston? What's going on?

I think the GM's got some answering to do. Can't figure out the offensive line. I think that the offensive line has some answering to do. And I think that, um, C.J. Stroud has just not been good in a year now. And I think he's in a rough position. I understand that, and I'm not trying to kill him

because I do think the offensive line's really bad and the wide receiver corps banged up. I get all that. But last night's game, if people didn't watch, the the texans defense did absolutely everything you can do to keep your team in a game at they fell down they fell down 14 nothing early did the texans okay the texans offense by the way i had two possessions before they were down 14 nothing those two possessions they ran a total of plays for a total of five yards.

The Texans offense then, after being down 14-0, ran another eight plays, this time for a total of 14 yards. The Texans defense then gets a pick and sets up a field goal, blocks a field goal, sets up another field goal, then gets another pick, And forces a, not another pick, pardon me, then forces a Sam Darnold fumble in the end zone for a touchdown. And then late in the game, forces a fumble, gets another interception, and the offense just can't do anything.

And so the Texans defense never quit fighting. It was, I mean, they forced four, turnovers in the game. They blocked a kick. They, and the Texans offense was just, I mean, they were two for 15 on third down. They averaged 3.8 yards per pass. I mean, CJ threw the ball 49 times for 220 yards. And I just think, I think sadly, the Texans at this point, Demons, they are a right off. They have two. wins this year. They're not doing anything with that team.

Okay, you agree. Yeah, I just don't think they can do it. They can't make a postseason run with the stuff that they have. No, and their two wins were the Titans, when Brian Callan was a coach and Cam Ward, and they destroyed Cooper Rush and the Ravens. Right. But it's so crazy, though, because that defense is allowing 12 points a game. The defense has been so.

good and the offense has just been so bad and so and they by the way games left against teams that are above 500 Niners Broncos Jags bills Colts chiefs Chargers so you got your two and four with seven games left against teams with the winning record tough year man and I just, yeah, I think they are, I think Domingo's a really good coach, and I think that defense is excellent. That offense is broken. They fired the offensive coordinator a year,

this offseason, that hasn't fixed it. CJ's got to take some of the ownership of it. He just needs to be better. The offensive line needs to be better. They're in real, they're in real trouble. And for a team that's on the division, two years in a row, that's really disappointing. Hey guys, eight years after flushing his promising college football career down the toilet,

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2822 over the Vikings. Hertz had a perfect passer rating. AJ Brown and Devante Smith were combined for 300 plus yards and three touchdowns. It seemed like those were the only two guys you're throwing to. Yeah.

Is the concern? Yeah, is the concern quieted down for Philly? It's got to. And here's the thing. DeManzi, I think this is going to to be the way they have to win games. Not him having a perfect pass rating. Like that, I thought that was...

Just throw into the dogs. Yes. I thought that was the best game Jalen Hertz has ever played. Now, it... That sounds weird because he's played awesome in one Super Bowl and really well in another. But if you removed the stakes of the Super... If you just said, hey, watch this Jalen Hertz game, all games have the same stakes so. to speed. What's the best he's ever played, the best he's ever operated. I thought it was Sunday.

I also think Sunday kind of adds to his big game quarterback rep because had they lost that team spiral, three straight losses so that it wasn't a playoff game, but it felt like it had more playoff implications than a regular, regular season game. And he, And here's the other piece of it. Sorry if you guys hear those sirens in the background. The reason I think they're going to need it is I just don't think they're going to get a good Sequin year. I don't think this is a slump.

I think this is who he is this season. Now, I want to be very clear with what I'm saying. I am not saying Sequin is washed. Washed means you're never going to be good again. What I'm saying is I think this is going to be a down year from start to finish. Right now, DeMonse, of the 48 running backs who have carried the ball the most this year, he's 47th in yards per carry. He has no big runs.

He's basically almost half the yards per carry he was last year. year and that to me is a combination of the offensive line not being as good and him being a little beat up from last season. And so for Philly to win at a high, they're not, their defense is worse than last year, Sequin is nowhere close to what he was last year. Their path is going to be their Super Bowl MVP quarterback throwing to the stud receivers. Like that's what it's got to be. and we can throw up the Eagles schedule. They have a brutal schedule all year, which is why this game was so important.

They now get the Giants, and I'm very curious. We'll talk more about the Giants in a bit, how the Giants react to that type of loss, but the Giants obviously just beat them. And then they get their buy, and then it is Green Bay, Detroit, Dallas, three really tough games.

And so they're going to have to win this one. way and I give Jalen a ton of credit. I thought he was brilliant on Sunday. And doing that, by the way, against that defense that never allows deep passes,

the Flores defense, I thought was really, really good. All right, what else you got here? So the tush push, the little strange turn, Minnesota did a strange little lineup. I think they got a guy on all fours. The guy laying down. The chiefs tried this.

in the Super Bowl with Chris Jones. I mean, whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. They're going to do this. This just needs to go away. I don't need to. We've spent too much time talking about the social push on this show. This is even more, it's just not football play.

And it just is what it is. All right, what else do we have on this game? Yeah, put your, so put your tinful hat on. What do you think is going on with J.J. McCarthy? I mean, he's hurt, but I, you know, Greg Rosenthal keeps calling it a soft benching. I think that's probably right, but at some point you got to put him back out there. I also, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to cause any beef or anything, but when I tell you guys, you guys remember, of course you remember, but I'm a, I'm a, I'm a try to cause any beef or anything, but, um, I'm a try to cause. try to find it real quick. Here it is. I talk about the injury, the injury report inflation,

that if they say escape major injury is going to be out this, that they always put the most optimistic glean on injuries. I find this interesting. Shepter after week two tweeted, Vikings quarterback J.J. McCarthy is expected to be sidelined two to four weeks with a high ankle spring. Again, Schefter tweeted, right after the injury, J.J. McCarthy is expected to be sidelined two to four weeks with a high ankle spring. Okay. Shepter Sunday morning said and tweeted. When JJ McCarthy suffered a high ankle sprain, doctors expected it to be a six-week injury. Nothing has changed.

It still looks like a six-week injury. Buddy, that's not what you told us. so i don't see a third option here either the initial reporting was what most of these injury reports in quotes are which is overly optimistic for reasons i still don't totally understand or something has changed, which is either he's not recovering as well as they would like, or it's the soft benching of, eh, Wintz was playing okay and we're trying to win these games.

I don't know. I do know that I don't feel great about Adam Schaefter reporting it's a two to four week injury, and then Adam Schaefter on Sunday morning, going on TV and tweeting, doctors always expected it to be a six-week injury. Nothing has changed. Something there does not line up.

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founding partner of iHeart women's sports all right damonte let's get to the craziest game of the weekend giants age is showing they let the Denver Broncos for 33 points in the fourth quarter for a We got NBA teams that don't even draw 32 points in a quarter. Crazy. Yeah. How should the Denver Broncos fan base be feeling after this one? Well, listen, Denver fans should be thrilled. They escaped.

And now it's just so weird. And then I want to talk about the Giants. Like, I'm not going to be wrong about Bo Nix. I think even the biggest Bronco fans, everyone except for my buddy poker great David Baker is recognizing, Bo Nix ain't the guy and probably isn't going to be the guy. With that said, he has been unbelievable in fourth quarters multiple times. They have been so bad.

The last three games, De Manzay, they have 13 total points, quarters one through three, and they're three and up. They're averaging four points. Let me put it like this. The last three games, they are averaging barely more than one. one point a quarter until the fourth quarter and they came back to beat the eagles they held on to beat the jets in an ugly game and then one of the wildest comebacks in NFL history to beat the um giants now i am mark this and you guys if i'm wrong i'm wrong they are five and two i am here to tell you

I believe they are going to go into their buy six and five. They have the Cowboys, the Texans, the Raiders, and then the Chiefs before the buy. I believe they are about to go one and three in that stretch and be six and five. We'll see if they prove me wrong and we'll see if they prove me wrong, make the playoffs. But I am, the defense is awesome. Bo Nix is to me not trustworthy. With that said, I have to be. to talk about the Giants because Brian Dables' game management at the end of that game was so

unacceptable. I just want to focus on one thing specifically and then two minor things. You're up 10 with five minutes left, 513 to be exact. You run the ball and Denver uses a timeout. It's second name. You run the ball again, and Denver uses a timeout. It's third and five. There is 4.56 left. You're up 10. You're on your own 35.

The other team has one timeout remaining. In that scenario, as long as you don't turn the ball over, you have essentially turned this game into an onside kick game, which in the modern NFL, an onside kick game means you win. So what do I mean by that? What I mean is if in third and five you run the ball, don't pick up the first down, and Denver uses its timeout. They now have none left.

They're down two scores. there's less than five minutes remaining. If you punt the ball and Denver would then get the ball back with about four and a half minutes left, no matter what they do, unless you allow an 80-yard one-play touchdown, even if you let them go get a touchdown, they are going to be in a position with no timeouts left, and less than three minutes remaining where they have no choice

but to kick an onside kick or the game's going to be over. The fact that Brian Davel with a rookie quarterback in his fourth career start called a pass play there is just such egregious game management that you deserve to lose.

Now there were other things after that that he screwed up as well. That because you threw the pick and then gave up a touchdown so quickly, you now, now the next time you have the ball, it's no longer an onside kit game. And now you actually do need a first down to win the game. And he, of course, does two straight give up runs and then a bomb when a first down ends the game.

That was a mistake. Then you get let off the hook by the bad pass interference call that put you on. the goal line when you score that touchdown i think the heady play would have been since you have a backup replacement kicker who's already missed an extra point you actually probably should go for two there so a field goal can't beat you but or tie you regardless that one call calling a pass with your rookie quarterback up 10 and the other team and this is the important part being down to its last time out, it cost you the game. And if you're the Giants, when you had a chance to get to three and four, and instead, DeMonsay, the Giants next six, Eagles, Niners, Bears, Packers, Lions,

Patriots. I don't know how many more wins you're going to get. You cannot, you can't make that type of mistake. And just unbelievable. All right. Let's, oh, you want me to rank team. Sorry, go ahead. So with that win, Denver joins Indy, New England, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo is the AFC teams with two or fewer losses.

I rank those five teams in terms of how much faith you have. I would go, Buffalo one, New England, two, Indy three, Pittsburgh, four, Denver, five. And in New England, you could convince me to flip flop. Okay. And listen, Buffalo, it's just when you have a superstar quarterback who's been there before, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Now, Drake May's playing out of his mind.

More on him in a second. All right, let's get to our last game. We're doing long form before we get to the quick hitters. All right. So CD came back. He's adding to that potent offense. They are looking good. They beat the commanders, by the way,

but you think the bigger story here is Jaden Daniels, who has kind of been a little injury prone since he's hit the league a little bit so far. That's always been a concern of yours. Yeah, the hamstring is hard to blame on him being so skinny. But the fact of the matter is, he's played one of the third NFL seasons. He got knocked out of a game with bruised or cracked ribs.

He missed time with a sprained knee. And now he's going to miss time with a hamstring. That's three separate injuries, 20 games into his career. That's concerning. And I know the commanders are not ruling him out for this week. You know who is, though,

a hard rock bet that has the commanders as 10 point dogs to the chiefs. Like, the, they are, Vegas is saying we think that's a Marcus Marriota game. The other thing that

the reason, the cowboys are who the cowboys are, DeMontze. Like, they are going score at will and there are games that I mean they can beat anyone because of that offense and they can lose to anyone because of that defense they're going to be fun to watch they're not trustworthy Dax playing out of his mind thus far I have to give credit I try to be fair you know I've not been a George Pickens guy he's been awesome so but the cowboys to me are not like a real they're a fun team they're just a different version of last year's bangles they can't do substantial, but they can score a bunch of points and they're fun to watch.

The commanders are in a different boat. I think they're just done. They're three, like throw up their schedule. They're three and four. And the next three are Kansas City, Seattle, Detroit. Yeah. Like, I just think it's over. Is that crazy?

Yeah, I mean, those next three aren't looking good. if the other games were maybe reversed. They're the three they have after that. And then maybe give them some time. Can City, Seattle, Detroit, plus two left against Philly. And you already have four losses. The commanders, the Cowboys think they're still alive for the playoffs. And they are.

I don't think they're going to be a playoff team. And the Bears are still alive for the playoffs. You've lost two teams that are just fighting for the same real estate as you, one of those wild guard spots in back-to-back weeks. I just think this is a very disappointing, very disappointing first half of the year for the commanders, and I don't see it getting better. And I am worried about Jaden.

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That was an awesome game. Good game. Shout out Joe Flacco for just being like, I'm just going to throw a Jamar Chase every single time. And shout out to Rogers, who played really well. Like that, to me, the Steelers won a game like this in week one against the Jets, 34, 32. And now they lost a game like this against the Bengals, 33, 31. The Bengals, though, sneaky alive.

A little bit of life. It helped the Ravens too, but also Bengals a little bit alive. Next. London game, Rams defeat in the Jags, 35 to 7. Jacks are done frauds I don't love it and Trevor hasn't played well this year

there's no way around it I might yeah I was about to say like what I might have to give up the ghost I might it might have to be I might need Trevor might have to be my Sam Darnold for Colin which is I'll always hold on a little bit

and then maybe one day he'll get to a functional franchise Like, Trevor Lawrence as the, Trevor Lawrence is the, I'm trying to think of, 2028 quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like, maybe that's something. Like, that could be the, you think it's Jacksonville.

You think it's Jacksonville in their system? I think it's a lot. I don't know. They can't figure out how to use Travis Hunter. Char hasn't been good enough. I would love the Daniel. I think a lot of teams are probably struggled to figure out how to use Trevor. I mean, not Trevor Lawrence, Travis Hunter, given what he wants to do.

Yeah, but those seems probably wouldn't have traded away the fifth pick and a future number one to draft him then. I mean, they gave up so much to get him. Yes, I'd love to see if Trevor got on the Niners. He would cook, but he just hasn't been good. There's no way around it. Next. Patriots defeat in the time. Titans 31 to 13.

Drake May dealing. Did that ruin your teaser? Yeah, it did. Yeah, it also, yeah, that job by us there. The Titans are just the worst team in the NFL. I mean, the Jets. They're just so bad. That's by the Jets, but they're pretty close.

I mean, but the Cam Ward is dropping the ball. But listen, Drake May was awesome. Drake May has been awesome this year. No way around it. He's been awesome. And they don't have great weapons. It hasn't mattered. Next.

Panthers defeat the Jets 13 to 6 There's another loss for me Here's how I knew I was in a bad way The Jets scored a touchdown to go up 10 to 3 And I said to Deanna who was sitting there with me I was like oh that probably just ends the game And it was the first half She's like what do you mean?

I was like I don't think the Jets can score a touchdown And then when I saw Justin Fields go out I actually got excited. I was like, oh, now they maybe could score a touchdown within Tyra. I just started throwing picks. Just a disaster. Just a disaster.

Next. Browns defeat the Dolphins, 31 to 6. That might be a wrap. Might be a wrap on everybody. The coach, the quarterback, the GM. That might be a salt the earth and start over situation. Next. Yeah.

Bears defeat the Saints 2614. Caleb didn't play very well. didn't matter because Rattler was that bad and the running game was that good. Bears on a four-game winning streak despite Caleb not playing great. Now, the question is, is Caleb going to, you know, this little blip and he's going to be better? If that's the case, they're dangerous. If he keeps playing at this level, then they're not as good as the record to adjust. Next.

Colts defeat the Chargers 38 to 24. Colts offense has been unbelievable. Chargers, Herbert with a ton of yards, but a couple backbreaking picks and the Chargers is just the Chargers. You know, remember when the Chargers were going to take over the division? I do. Next. We got the Colt. No, no, we got Packers defeating the Cardinals 2723.

Really sharp play by LaFleur, fourth and two, two and a half minutes left down three, was going to kick a field goal. And then I think thought better of it because he realized if I kick this field goal, my best case scenario is overtime. I'm just going to, I make it. It's a tie game. I didn't give Cardinals two and a half minutes to drive down and they were moving the ball really well. Went for it. Gutsy, picked it up. And then they held Jacoby out of the end zone when, by the way, Jacoby Brissette moved the ball well.

Cardinals now lost five in a row all in kind of different excruciating fashion. All right, next. Lastly, we got the 49ers defeat the Falcons 20 to 10. This was a stone missed by me. And Mac was not good in this game, and they won anyway. Shout out to Robert Salah, no Fred Warner, no Nick Bosa, all those injuries, and they really shut down a Falcons team. It's a tough loss for Atlanta.

All the sharps were on the Niners. I didn't believe in them. I believe in the Falcons. and the Niners controlled that entire game. All right, let's go to the listener questions. Chief Fan says everyone blame Nagy for the poor play calling. Now that they are rolling, did Andy influence the play calling or did Nagy bring the creativity?

Yeah, listen, I've never been on the like get on Matt Nagy train. And first of all, Andy's in charge. Second of all, it can't just be when it's bad, it's Matt Nagy, when it's good, it's Andy. The offensive line is playing well and the receiver core is healthy. That's what's changed. Next. Caleb says, thoughts on Mike McDaniel to the Giants to complete the frat guy trifecta of him,

Dart and Scataboo. I don't think Dart and Scataboo are, I don't think Mike McDaniel's their type of guy. I don't look at Mike McDaniels. That's not the vibe I get from him at all. Next. Ronnie, Ronnie asked Nick, are you going to amend your Super Bowl? pick with all the injuries to Tampa. I don't know if they can come over them.

No, no. I'm not going to. And I think Tampa, Tampa's given themselves enough of a cushion and has a soft enough end of season schedule. I still think they can be the one seed. And they'll be, I think that it's not a lot of season ending injuries for Tampa. We'll see about Mike Evans. But no, I, I still think Chiefs bucks looks great. Reminder everybody, if you would, like, rate, subscribe, review. So you know when we go live, whenever we have a special episode,

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