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Episode Date: July 29, 2025

Nick Wright discusses what a slimmed-down Luka Doncic means for the Los Angeles Lakers and their title aspirations. Then, Nick theorizes what went down between LeBron James, Maverick Carter, and Nikola Jokic’s agent in France over the weekend. Is it possible that we see LeBron joining the Denver Nuggets? Next, Nick discusses Aaron Rodgers' GOAT case, or lack thereof, Patrick Mahomes’ being kicked out of the Madden 99 Club, and Lamar Jackson's perception around the NFL. Finally, as always, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, welcome in. What's Right with Nick Wright episode 353. And this episode of What's Right with Nick Wright is brought to you by Boost Mobile. A ton to get to today. Some very fun topics, a very serious topic right off the top. Before we get to any of that, however, let me welcome in Damase. DeMonze, great to see you. Good see, boss. It, the major development, it feels like in the ongoing saga of your soon to be snake family,

which is you added a surveillance camera to the, uh, to the incubator. Yep. That's pretty cool. So you like, can you watch it from your phone when you're at work? I can watch it from my phone when I'm at work. Uh, the motion sensor thing's a little messed up. It just, it, it shows motion when I'm looking for egg motion, but it's like, the lighting has changed in the background.

So we got to figure out how to tell. Yeah, exactly. But I mean, too sensitive was probably good. Quick question. And then we'll get to the important stuff, now that this isn't important. Do if you check your phone and there is a snake being, I don't know, hatching, I guess. Do you think you'll leave work? Yeah.

Will you leave work? No. Here's the thing. I live really close enough that you could just be like. Oh, you got to go out for a second. Yeah, yeah. Go in and then come back. Whatever it is, I'm very excited about it.

100%. Me too. I'd think, uh, but yeah. No, I would leave it there. I wouldn't leave just because it would need time to come all the way out. If there was a problem. Got it was a problem I'm leaving. Like if something.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. It'd be almost criminal if you didn't. And what do we think? Like two more weeks? Uh, like, uh, what's it, June, August 15th. Yeah, so two weeks. Like the latest, yeah.

Um, last. Last question. So you spent time this weekend, getting the surveillance set up, checking on the snakes, all of that. Did you write your little sister a letter? Why did you do this on the podcast? I know it. Nobody's written her letters. I've sent her emails.

The only person who's written her letters is my mom who's written her letter every day. But that's not. So it is what it is. She hasn't written us letters. So you know what? She's having fun. I got the report. She was doing great.

Yeah. I'll give it out there. It's all good. All right. Time now for straight to voicemail brought to you by our great friends at Boost Mobile who also bring you this entire episode of what's right in the great. Here's a serious but uplifting note. Dion Sanders found out while he was being checked. So Dion Sanders has like some vascular issues, which is why he's lost some toes. So he gets checked on that regularly. In the check on that, they noticed something maybe a little amiss. So they sent him. sent him to a urologist. They did a check there. They noticed something really amiss. They're like, you have aggressive bladder cancer. He then had his bladder removed, I guess, and says he's totally cancer-free and then used

his platform to really encourage people to go to the doctor to get checked out all of that and had an unbelievable quote when one of the reporters asked him about staring death in the face. And he said, I didn't stare death in the face. stared life in the face. And then he had such a Dion quote where he's like, I'm God's guy. It was so funny. It was like such an outrageous thing, but also awesome.

And he was like, God put me here for a reason to entertain and inspire and teach. And he really believes it. And by the way, if you've led the life, Dion is led, which is one of the greatest college football players ever, one of the greatest, maybe the single greatest defensive NFL player ever, while also being a pretty damn good baseball player, very successful, charismatic in the media, and then reinventing what's possible in collegiate coaching from the HBCU level to Colorado. And oh, yeah, he's got a couple of sons trying to make the NFL. I don't blame him for feeling like, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm special like that.

Yeah, I'm God's guy. But I, that's the, those are the things from Dion that not only make it impossible not to like him, but you just root for him. And I thought he used that platform really well yesterday. So I like that. Travis Kelsey was in Happy Gilmore, too. I have not seen it. And now we have a potential controversy.

So Lamello Ball, who was, you know, posted that he got hot Cheeto tattoo feet. I don't need hot Cheetos. It would be the worst tattoo I've ever seen in the world. the worst it would be tattooing all five of your toes the exact color of hot cheetos with little flames above them um and it was put out there by a tattoo artist later that day the tattoo artist said you know this is we were just trolling we did do a full leg sleeve on mellow but we didn't and he then showed that but we didn't do the toes here's all i'm going to say donise I have two takes on this.

One is, you know how like the Raiders just cut Christian Wilkins? They're trying to not pay him is guaranteed money. And it's because of very shaky reporting about odd locker room behavior plus not rehabbing his foot. And they're like, you know what? You're not good for the team. If I had a athlete, if I were paying, if I owned a team and one of them. and one of my players got that tattoo, I would try to avoid their guaranteed money.

I'd be like, you can't be trusted in any way, shape, or form. I just, sorry, you just can't. Like, I don't know what we're going to call it, but we're going to have a grievance. So, but here's the thing. The tattoo artist said, I was trolling. I did give Lamello a leg, sleeve, but I was trolling. I just want to be on the record that I am giving it a less than 10,

but greater than 1% chance that Lamello did actually get those towed hot Cheeto tattoos, tattoos, saw the reaction to the tattoo artist posting it was like, bro, you've got to tell people that was fake. And he's now just committed to never being shoeless in public again. Because when we saw, when we saw the leg sleeve,

I just noticed two important context clues. One, he was wearing socks, so we were not able to see his feet. And two, the red in the leg sleeve looks identical. Like it's going into the red. Well, it just was the same color. It just is the same shade. So I'm just getting on the record that I am, I think it's unlikely. Mello got the worst tattoo I've ever seen.

But I'm not saying it's impossible. So I just want to be on the record about that. Does that all seem fair? I know Lamello's your guy. Lamello's my guy. He's a gifted Uber, but yeah. All right. Remindered everyone, like, rate, subscribe, review to the YouTube channel, iTunes, Spotify.

Hit the thumbs up, hit the bell, do all those things. It helps us quite a bit. I want to quickly address right off the top the shooting in New York City yesterday. It's a very scary and incredibly sad thing that happened. So the latest reporting is as follows. A young man who pretty clearly was dealing with some significant mental illness and was believed, I guess, that football caused it, showed up to the NFL headquarters, at 345 Park Avenue with a semi-automatic rifle and tried to go to the floor the NFL

headquarters are at, went to the wrong floor and killed a handful of people before killing himself. There is, this is, you know, as bad and as sad as it gets, there was a police officer in the lobby who was killed. There were obviously a handful of innocent. people who were killed and I am not I always feel conflicted to the wrong word but the guy who the murderer here is obviously a massive villain but also someone that at least I don't know you almost empathize with in a weird way because he was lost you know what I mean his brain was

broken. Well, I don't know why his brain was broken, but his brain was broken and he lost his mind. I'm not going to do my, you know, what some of you might expect me to do, which is give a whole thing on my feelings on the accessibility of people, any people, much less people with documented mental illness to be able to get those types of weapons. I'm on the record about that and I don't need to get into it further. And I'm not going to act like I have any, there's any real insight over whether or not, you know, his mental illness was caused by C.T. as he thought, as he wrote in his little manifesto or letter or whatever it is, because I don't really actually think that matters a ton in the moment in the here and now. What I will simply say is it is an unspeakable tragedy.

and you I I as cliche as this sounds man the and I know I've said this a handful of times before and it maybe I should have ended the show instead of starting the show with this and we'll just spend another 60 seconds on it because I don't have any deep profound insight but I felt like an idiot if I didn't at least acknowledge it it happened in the city I live it happened you know we're going to be talking about the NFL

later there was someone that works with the NFL who was shot but it looks like he's going to be okay. Just check on your people and tell him you love them. Not because the someone, I'm not saying because some of your people might be in the position the shooter was in. What I'm saying is because, man, life can be cruelly random and cruelly short. And everyone hearing this right now and every, you know, me talking right now, we are, you know, we are fortunate in that that that that wheel hasn't spun and hit us and so in the meantime take advantage of those of those moments that's always what i think about when something like

this happens just the utter randomness and when you hear like this guy just went to the wrong elevator like went to the wrong floor but i it's the wrong floor i know that sounds ridiculous the point is it's just totally random just the people who were killed yesterday it was just Just totally random, some, a million sequence, a million items and a sequence of events had to happen. And now their family's lives are changed forever and they're gone. And so just incredibly sad and thoughts. And if you're the prayerful type prayers for anyone affected by that yesterday here in Manhattan. All right.

Sorry, tough transition, but I did want to do that off the top. you know, as I'm redoing this in my head, should maybe if I was going to actually do it off the top, should I have done it before we did five minutes on hot Cheetos tattoos, probably. But you know what? Work and progress on the pod at times. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.

And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's actually. extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Demandze, let's talk about the boat picture heard around the world. Yolkits, Yolkich's agent was posted with Maverick Carter and your guy LeBron James on a boat in France. The photo caption was the summer of 2025 is the perfect time to make big plans for the fall of 2026. Very specific. You said there's a zero percent chance that he goes over to Denver. Why is that? Why can that not?

Okay. Because it's not going to happen. so here is well i'll explain what's up with the caption but this is one of those i am going to need the audience to just trust me that when i say i rarely say i know this for a fact but when I say it, it's not speculation, and it means I have about something like this, information that is not publicly accessible, so to speak. I'm not like reading someone else's report. I know for a fact that the idea that LeBron next offseason is going to sign

with the Denver Nuggets is pure and utter fantasy. Now, if you want to say it would be awesome, sure. If you want to say he should, no problem. If you want to say it'd be fun, why not, all those things, I'm here to tell you. And by the way, as me, someone who obviously would like to see LeBron win it, you know, every year he has left win a championship, I wouldn't hate it at all.

I'm simply telling you it's not going to happen. So, and I'm here to tell you that caption was not about LeBron. And this is where it is, so that, so all, everything I have said there is are things I know, unequivocally, definitively. I know that LeBron will not be a Denver Nugget next year. I know that that caption was not about LeBron James specifically. I know those things. What I say from this point moving forward is call it informed speculation, but not something I can say unequivocally I know.

So what was it all about? and the answer to that is maverick carter who at times gets i think unintentionally like dismissed as you know maverick carter lebron's best friend or maverick carter lebrons business manager but those are accurate titles but it far undersells who maverick carter lebron's business manager but those are accurate titles but those are accurate titles but it far undersells who Maverick Carter is at this point in the sports world and really the business world.

And so now listen, again, I try to my job's never not to be unbiased. My job is simply to, you know, make sure the audience knows my biases. It is absolutely fair and the audience should know. I consider Mav a dear friend. I can separate that from what I'm talking about here, but you guys should know that if you didn't already. And of everyone, I know there's a lot of like internet speculation about my relationships with LeBron and the people, you know,

in LeBron's orbit and Rich and Randy, Mav specifically. Unequivoc, and even though I do a little business, kind of with rich that the person in that circle that i am far and away the tightest with is matt um and so you guys you can have that information uh but it does not impact what i'm about to tell you here what i'm about to tell you here is um mav has established himself as a legitimate force in the business world if you were I don't know that he has a LinkedIn, but if you were to check the board of directors that he's on, the long list of them, the people that he has real relationships with outside of inside and outside of sports and what he has built himself professionally. The reason I say all of that is to say he is not fucking around with this league he is attempting to build.

This F-1-style traveling event-based basketball league. And so, when you see Nikola Yokic's agent, who is also the agent of another dozen or so NBA players, and maybe more importantly, more than 100 European basketball players, talk about the summer of 2025, is a great time to make plans for the fall of 2026. That is not about LeBron and Joker playing together. That is, and again, this is my speculation. This is not something I know, but this is my read. That is about the league Maverick is trying to put together.

And the full details on that league are at this point a little hazy. would that league be trying to directly compete with the NBA? My guess would be no. But again, I don't, I want to be very careful on this stuff because I think people will assume on certain things people assume I know way less than I do, which is always fine. That doesn't bother me. But where it can get tricky is if people assume I know way more than I do and they read more into my speculation as reportage, which this part, is not. But that was about trying to set up what would be a very interesting new way to present professional

basketball. And now, and this is the blindest of all the speculation, I couldn't help but look at, and poor Daniel, our producer, who's a diehard Denver Nugget fan, who maybe started this pod with the hopes that LeBron and Joker were going to one day play together for the Nuggets, and now I'm going to end the second. I don't know if Daniel wants him on the Nuggets.

Well, I, I, Daniel, you can put it in the chat. I don't think Daniel wants to do that. Well, let's see, you know, another season where they don't make round three, maybe you'd feel a little differently. Um, and so, uh, but regardless,

here's who I here's what I do know. Daniel definitely wants Joker on the Nuggets. And yeah. You know, did I watch Joker overcome with emotion watching his horse win that race and think about, you know what I bet Joker would really enjoy a job where he's not in Denver eight months a year? And if there were a way for him to one day continue to make huge money playing professional basketball while having a lighter schedule and having more and not necessarily being stationed and anchored to the Midwest of the United States for more than half the year, could that be a attractive to him, maybe. And so I think I'm very curious to see exactly what MAB tries to build.

And I'm very curious as so many of the best players in the NBA start to skew international for how many of those international guys at some point in their career or for a year of their career or at the tail end of their career, they might be like, yeah, that, that is more attractive to me than the current setup. I don't know because I don't know exactly what the setup of Mavs thing's thing's going to be, but it's real and it's coming down the tracks. All right, you want to the, you can ask me those couple follow-ups to Monse. Yeah, so I mean, they were on the boat and they were catching fish. You were on the boat this weekend.

Hold on. Don't worry about the fish one. You can ask me about, you ask me the first couple. I mean, why can't LeBron go to Jim? So he can. So this is the thing I want to make clear.

He could. He's not going to. Like there is the, if the Lakers and Nuggets were to have in 20, this year, similar years they had last year, both make the playoffs, you know,

both get knocked out. relatively early. And the nuggets, even though I like the offseason they had this year, you know, they don't have a ton of flexibility as far as salary cap space and all that stuff. They would, of course, he could go there. It's just not going to happen. And a reminder to everyone that when everyone was criticizing LeBron for opting into the contract that he had signed with the Lakers when they were saying,

oh, you know, he could have opted out and signed with anyone for the minimum. And I said, had he done that, he would have been immediately across the board criticized for some fraudulent ring chasing stacking the deck. You got to see a little sneak preview of that for a few hours this weekend when people thought that's what that caption was about. And the immediate reaction was that would be a fake ring. That wouldn't count. Even Daniel wrote in our doc, he can come ring chase if he wants.

Like, got it. Like, so we all, we all knew that that would be coming, but we got to see that in very real time here. All right. My next one is, is it a crime to be emotional, emotionally invested in your hobbies? I mean, he cried after this horse run the race. He was like, we go home now. after we won the finals. Yeah.

No, it's, listen, it's not a crime. This is what I would comp it to. And I don't think this is that outrageous at all. And I'm, I'll just come,

even though, you know, this is going to sound, I am not comparing myself to Nikoliyokic, but I'm using myself as an example. If you work your entire life for something, you obviously love it if you work your entire life for something and you get great at it as you obviously have a passion for it but if you work your entire life for something and it is the

focus of your life after you know 10 15 20 30 years of doing it a new challenge can all of a sudden be more exciting even without knocking at all, you know, what your main thing is and what has been the pursuit of your life. So that's how I view, I don't view joke, like some of the jokes of like, Joker just plays basketball to pay the bills. This is its true love. I, I don't feel that way at all, but I do feel that this is something not new because he's always been into horses, but an exciting new challenge and something that he hasn't yet mastered. So the reason I said I would compare it to myself is I, you would, like, if I were to ever win a world series of poker bracelet, you would see a level of like emotion and gratification

from me that I don't think you could ever see from any like broadcast to come. And that's not because like you love like you love your hobby more than you love your main thing. It's because it just activates a different like dopamine and different part of your brain. So that's what I see with Joker. But I do think he has a true passion for his horses. I think he truly really loves, loves his horses. And I think there's a there's an extra thing when your hobby involves a, living creature you know what i mean like where you feel like you have real relationships i know that

sounds weird but the anybody that's ever had you know i've never been no horses i think are really feeling feeling animals too think they're very personal creatures so oh i would imagine and i was just going to compare it to like if you're hunting's kind of a bad example here i'm talking about the sacredness of animals but i was going to say like having a hunting dog you know what i mean like a dog that you that you yeah yeah that you and then gets the job done correct um i i feel like there's some of this maybe with you with your snakes but snakes are so different animals because not very personable creatures they're not personal and you can't really like read their emotion

yeah the way you can so many mammals like they can't like like with dogs and with horses sometimes you feel like you can like read the look in their eye and you know they certainly can show you a little rest their head on your shoulder and stuff they don't really do that to everybody right and so i totally i'm not mocking joker at all i think it's really cool but i also do think that when there is something you really really love that you literally can't be a part of at all for the majority of a year every year because your job takes you halfway around the world, that does certainly play into the math on how long you plan to do that job. I do feel that way. And so that's to me, that's the end of the Mav Joker's agent, LeBron,

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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama,

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So you've had some opinions on Aaron Rogers in the past. Yeah. Have you ever thought of him as the best quarterback ever? Well, so this, there was a point in time where I thought Aaron Rogers was the most talented quarterback ever. And I still think he's probably the second most now to Patrick. And there certainly was a point in time where I thought Aaron Rogers at his apex was the highest level the position had ever been played. So I buy that. But that is such a huge delta between that and the best.

and the best quarterback to ever play the position. And I thought, listen, credit words do, I thought Kyle did a really nice job in that interview. And I thought Aaron came across as downright charming. And so, you know, it doesn't change my opinion on what the Steelers season's going to be like, but I thought that was a really good 10 minutes of media. With all that said, this is one of those opinions, DeMonsé, that I think is not an allowed opinion.

I, and I know people don't like when I say that. So like everyone's entitled to their opinion. Certain opinions, like you, there are certain opinions that are so far outside anything that is legitimately arguable that you can't have it. So like, there is, go ahead. Go ahead. I mean, you thought he was like the most, like, why can't, how was that one? How can you not even make that argument that's a take that you can't have?

Like it's, I don't wonder. Well, because there is. You were saying he was the best, you thought he was the most skilled, skill, skill, at a point in time, but then someone more skilled came along. So the. There's one guy. Right. So you can't be the, so here's the problem.

The problem is, in order to make an argument that, someone is let's take basketball for a minute okay there are six people that you are allowed to have the opinion are the greatest of all time and it might just be five but all i'll extend it to six and those six are and the reason that i'm saying there's only six you're allowed i really think it's only three, but I'm trying to be as liberal as possible with this here, is because there is, you can point to something as their thing that they were just the best at, head and shoulders. You know what I mean?

Like that that's, that's what I'm hanging it on. So if you want to say Bill Russell's the greatest ever, you can just kind of start and end with the 21 and O in elimination games throughout his career, you know, and winner take all games. 11 championships, eight in a row. It's like, okay, simple. You want to argue wilt. It's just like, dude, average 50 a game and more than 48 minutes a game in a season, squared 100 points in a game.

You know what I mean? Like intuitively, you understand the argument for it. Kareem, greatest high school player ever, greatest college player ever. Most MVP's of anyone ever, you know, super long career success, all of it. The Jordan LeBron arguments we've all had. before we don't have to get into them right now it's obvious what those guys are and then the sixth that i would add if you really want to squint hard enough magic greatest pass or ever changed the game career cut short due to a virus that you know they had nothing to do with basketball

the the instant impact as a rookie being the best player in the deciding game of the championship round like those are the guys but if someone tries to like make the art argument and I'm not like I'm not picking let me not even start with him someone tries to make the argument Larry Byrd's the greatest player of all time the problem is there is not a single thing you can say Larry birds the greatest day not one thing you know what I mean if somebody tries to make the argument um Steph is the greatest of all time that there is the now there is something you can say he's the greatest that greatest shooting, but the other gaps in the resume compared to the guys he's competing against prevent it.

With Kobe, who some people try to make the case for, the problem is it's very, very hard, if not impossible to make the argument that Kobe was better than the guy that he modeled himself after in Michael. You know what I mean? Michael hasn't kind of clocked in every category. So how are we, you know, how are we getting? there. So when it comes to the greatest quarterback ever, what is in 2025 the argument for Aaron Rogers? There isn't one anymore. Oh, his regular season accomplishment with Peyton's got him

killed. It's certainly not the winning. And if it's just like I tell I test raw ability, creativity, Mahomes laughed it. So like, he has nothing to hang his hat on anymore. The spiral on the ball. Again, Dan Marino might have him in that. There's not, for real, like, you just have to have, there's got to be something that is ironclad about your case. And then the rest you can massage if you want to have a viable. opinion. And so I just thought calling Aaron, who doesn't have the greatest stats of any

quarterback ever, they're great, but it's not the best, doesn't have the most MVP's of any quarterback ever, it's the second most, it's not the most, certainly doesn't have the wins, doesn't have the raw athleticism of any, the most raw athleticism of any quarterback ever, doesn't, and no longer holds the, title for you know most natural ability so how could if you weren't ever the best of anything how could you be the best ever this is not a viable opinion um and so i know that's going to sound dismissive but it's just not a loud opinion sorry there has to be some standards we live in a as i said to the guy two years ago who was walking his dog watched his dog

go to the bathroom, look at it, and then walked away. As I said to him, I will say now, we live in a society. You have to do your part. Like, what are you shaking your head about, DeVosze? This guy, this guy, hold on. This, I know the, that incident that I'm discussing there is this guy would every day walk two blocks from his house to the block we live on. have his giant Paine Corso

use the bathroom and then walk back home and I finally caught him and I was like you know what we're just going to have it out man and he apologized and then pretended to clean it up and then

hurriedly walked away when he thought I was gone so I did I chase him down and say hey man we live in a society I did I didn't know what else to say. I'm not going to say like I'm going to fight you. I'm going to try to just guilt you.

We live in a society. We live in a society. Do your part. Do your part, man. And in the sports take game, we live in a society. We all have, we can't, you can't just come out there with takes that are indefensible. I'm not saying the takes have to be right, but you have to be able to defend them. That's all.

All right, speaking of indefensible, I guess this is semi-defensible, but I hate it. The Madden rating. Go ahead. I don't know about indefensible, but the 99 club came out for Badden 26. Yeah. Your guy Mahomes was snubbed. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are the two. They both have 99 ratings. How do you feel about this?

Is this legit? I think it's pretty fair. I think that Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are much more Madden-type quarterbacks than Patrick Mahomes is like Patrick Mulham. is more of an improviser. Lamar Jackson's obviously like super fast. And Josh Allen's like a freak athlete. He's huge running through dudes.

So it's like as far as games, like if you want to play Madden, like you're thinking like you want to play, you would rather play with Lamar Jackson or Josh Al. Okay. So that's a really interesting way to look at it. And I, if that's the argument, that so be it.

Listen, Mahomes coming into this year in the six Maddens post his rookie post his first year as a starter. He was a 99, four times. He was the highest rated quarterback five times. The one time he wasn't, he was the third highest rated quarterback behind Brady and Rogers. And that was after the AFC championship game lost to Cincinnati.

And he responded by having more yards than any player in the history of the league, winning the Super Bowl MVP, winning the regular season MVP. and having arguably the greatest quarterback season anyone's ever had. So I'm not even mad at Madden. Maybe they motivated him. I actually, I want to use this as an opportunity. And listen, Josh just won Super Bowl, or I'm sorry, regular season MVP had, you know, for a team that a lot of people thought was not going to be good. Some people who had always been called a Bill's hater for just being right about the bills.

then last year thought the bills could be really good, and that person was me. But it was because of Josh Allen. So it's fine. And Lamar has had basically back-to-back perfect regular season. So you want to give them a 99 rating. It's fine. I actually want to use this time here to talk a little bit about Lamar and the Ravens.

Because I was on Mina's podcast. and she was a gag that I was skeptical of the Ravens. And Mina, you know, said Lamar didn't play poorly in the playoff game, which I find unbelievable, and said that basically she thought I was being, unfair to Lamar or the Ravens by not, I guess, chalking up the same exact thing happening every single year to just dumb luck, and said, oh, I didn't know you were a Ravens hater. And this is where, as I said with her, I will break K-Fabe for a moment.

I adore Mina comes. I know I call her my rival that I want to vanquish. I think she's outstanding. It's the only reason I went on a podcast with her at 7 o'clock New York City time on the night before I was going to the Bahamas for a few days. And I think she does great work. But I, there are two major points I want to make here. The first one is this.

At what point, Does someone stop being a hater if they are constantly one of the only people prove incorrect? At what, I'm just curious for the media and internet at large, at what point does hating transition to accurate skepticism? Or is the answer never? Is the answer, nope. If the whole world acknowledges this guy is just, you know, close to a perfect player who's had a couple perfect regular seasons,

who's just bad timing for these awful moments. And now, 23 for Lamar, it was an awful game. 2024, it was not an awful game. It was a couple really awful moments that ruined and otherwise, really good game by him. But I am, and so, because I didn't think Lamar was terrible in the divisional round game against Buffalo. What I did think was a guy who was historically good all year about protecting the football,

having two turnovers in the first 20 minutes of that game, made it to where the best grade he could get for the games, like a C plus. and especially because they end up losing. And so the question I truly have for the audience is, is that hateing, is, and I'll use the thing as an example, every single year. people called me a Bill's hater. Now, I was a Bill's troll to a degree, and I said drop the banner,

and I poked fun, and I did all that stuff. But I was also right every single time. And then this past year, when I thought the pendulum had swung too far in the other direction, and I said, actually, the bills are going to be excellent. I think they're once again, the biggest threat to the chiefs. And that's the opposite of hating, and it was just correct, right?

So then the, and yes, guys, when I say Mahomes at the most yards in the single season ever, that's that is exactly the, it's exactly what I'm saying it is. It's total yards for the full season, everything all put together. The most yards any players ever accounted for was 22 Patrick Mahomes. So the Lamar stuff to me is interesting because I, I it's not only that I don't think I'm a hater but I think a lot of other really smart people who cover this league are in willful denial because they like it and because they want it to be different

than it is and because and this part i really empathize with because they detest so much so many of his his original actual haters the people who said he should change positions coming in the league or he'd never be any good or any of that stuff and so all of that has created this very odd world where folks patronize him a bit in a way they discuss what is the only hole on his resume, but it's the hole that matters the most, which is in that league for that position, how you play in the postseason. And so this is the question that I would just have to everyone. Folks on Ravens Twitter who are mad at me because they think the team is absolutely stacked and I have questions about its receiver position and folks in the media that think I'm unfair in my skepticism because one of the other things that happened when I was talking again, I think Mina's outstanding with Mina was. Stafford came up

and I talked about how if I were like I kind of been prompt to was talking about how he might be my third pick of any quarterback in the league to have in the postseason that would go Mahomes Alan Stafford and she seemed legitimately aghast

that I was not including Lamar in the math for that and I was legitimately aghast that she possibly could include Lamar in the math for that specific question. You can have any quarterback for a playoff run. Like, well, I'm not going to pick the guy who's literally never like shown us that he can do that. That would seem silly to me. You might be like, well, Josh hasn't shown it. Josh has had plenty of playoff runs where he's played excellent throughout.

The team wasn't good enough. Where did see that from Lamar? But that's fine. this is kind of old hat. We've talked about this each the last few years, because each the last few years, it has gone exactly like this. Unbelievable regular season that I look at with a quizzical eye,

because I want to see how it works in the postseason, then Lamar has one of, if not his downright worst game in the postseason. And then everybody has this moment of clarity for about three days where after the year people are like, damn, Nick was right, without saying Nick was right, and then come this time of year, It's like, no, this year will be different.

So this is my question. Because Ravens Twitter, Ravens Twitter thinks the team is absolutely loaded. So obviously, like, there shouldn't be any excuses there. But my question in the media is this. If it were to happen again, same beats as the last couple of years, is Lamar going to win MVP? He is the MVP, top two MVP, all of it. And then once again, the Ravens don't play to their seed. or don't play to their talent or, you know,

and it's because of massive quarterback mistakes early in a playoff game that puts them in a hole that they can't quite dig themselves out of, will this year then be enough? Is it like, well, before the sample is too small? Or will it still just be, yeah, randomness? Dumb luck of the playoffs. I find it really fascinating

because it is absolutely true. true that the only thing standing between Lamar and being in the discussion to Monzae as one of the six or seven greatest quarterbacks of all time is one great playoff run. That's all that's standing between. It's just one because the regular season stuff is so unbelievable. but the only thing standing between him and being in a very unique class of all-time athletes in a in a not great sense is deja vu all over again one more time and it makes this year one of the most fascinating it makes makes the Ravens and Lamar

one of the most fascinating stories of the season And it also, I am, I'm really excited to watch it. And I am really excited to see how people react, myself included, to how this full season plays out. And so, like, it was, it's back-to-back years. It's all been right there. All been, and that's one other thing I want to say, because one of the things Mina pointed out was DVOA has,

over the last quarter century to Monzae, the two best teams, the two best five-year stretches by any team to not make a Super Bowl are the last five years of the Buffalo Bills and the last five years of the Baltimore Ravens. And the point there that Mina made, made was, you know, basically that's an Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes stat. And it's that these two teams were good enough to be all-time great. They were just blocked by one of the greatest, if not the greatest duo in NFL history.

And I pushed back on that too. Because I think the bills being on that list is a Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes stat. Because the bills have lost to the chiefs five times in this stretch. I'm sorry, four times. I don't know that I feel the Ravens being on that list is a chief stat because only one of those years have the chiefs been the team to block the Ravens. They haven't gotten to that level yet. So we'll see.

And listen, you believe in the Ravens this year. Brew believes in the Ravens. Go ahead. 100%. NFL is wide open this year. See what he does. Yeah. No, we'll see. I have a feeling it will be like every year.

Unbelievable in the regular season. They lose a couple games. They probably shouldn't lose that are a little odd, but it is jaw dropping. And then come the playoffs, we're going to be like, wow, this team sure looks different.

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All right, let's talk Skinny Luca to Monzae. Luca was on the cover of Men's Health magazine looking very slender. He came out with a quote saying, just visually, I would say that my whole body looks better. How are you feeling about Luca's transitions? So a couple things. One is, first, sorry to, I pointed this. out on TV and I'm not trying to pick on anybody but this to me is one of the main takeaways from the article remember I told you guys AI doesn't know sports and

that AI hallucinates sports this article got marred a bit by the fact that the author included in it an anecdote about how Luca when he came into the league had a 42 inch vertical that was measured at the NBA combine. The problem with that is twofold. One is anyone that's watched 10 minutes of Luke at Anschich at any moment of his career knows he never had a 42 inch vertical. The other problem is Luke at Ancich did not go to the combine. So there is no place to measure his vertical.

So what happened there? The most obvious answer is figured out by some internet sleuths. Was if you Googled Lukadanschich vertical, the top AI result was that Luke Adanchich had a 42 inch vertical measured at the NBA Combine, which then links you to an article about Dante DiVincenzo's 42 inch vertical at the NBA Combine. but AI hallucinated it. I guess they saw the chah in both names, white guys, same draft class, and they just made it up. So again, I'm not saying AI can't be used for things.

I'm not saying it's not, you know, the next, the future, all of that. I am saying for some reason AI does not know sports and can't figure it out. That's first thing. Second thing is this. My other takeaway from that article to Monzae, I'm going to read you a lot. line in it, which I found fascinating. The facility, which is located in the town where Donchich has vacationed every summer since he was a team.

That's important. The facility, which is located in the town where Donchich has vacationed every summer since he was a team, didn't have weights until earlier this month when he had dumbbells, barbells, barbells, weight plates, and med balls trucked in. So here's why that's noteworthy to me. Luke every summer goes back to this town in Slovenia and trains, but his training has always just included hooping. You know what I mean?

He plays ball and does drills all of it. Weight training was never a big part of it for him. And so now you guys know I feel like the go ahead. Oh, no, it's just so cool, just being able to get a bus of weights. Oh. Just brought to wherever you have. Yeah, of course. But the, the, I felt that the whiplash effect of, you know,

Lucas fat out of shape, drinking problem was far too strong considering that without ever being in peak physical condition, he had one of the greatest opening six-year stretches of a career ever. This is where I am contractually obligated to remind the audience that Luca Donchich already has made more first team all MBAs than either Steph Curry or Chris Paul and only has one less than Kevin freaking Durant. He's 26 years old. That's how great he's been. Now, he did have a down year and part of it was he was a little out of shape. he was also sad he also got hurt he also got traded um and all of you know all of those things so i think

that is i think that is important um it's not giving him an excuse but i just thought 12 months ago today before lucca got hurt before lucca got traded when lucca was coming off a finals appearance nobody and thought and he had beaten in round two Shea and in round three Anthony Edwards and it averaged 34, 9 and 10 in the regular season. Nobody thought Shea or Anthony Edwards was better than him. Now, I think it's like conventional wisdom that those guys are better than him. And Shea certainly has earned it, I guess. Anthony, I don't think quite has, but whatever. The point I'm making is this.

Luca in non-tip-top physical condition was already well on his way to being one of the greatest players ever Luca like this should be the early favorite for league MVP Well you don't And you don't think with his play style that him being a little bit thinner might affect it Like you know he's like a slow kind of get you on his hip Yeah but I think I think that if he is I don't

don't think he's going to be skinny. I think he's going to be lean. You know what I mean? I think if you just replace some of what was fat with muscle. With the Lakers. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I would bet he weighs about the same, but look. I mean, if not more. Yeah, I mean, muscle weighs more than fat. Right. But I mean, he looks a lot thinner than he was. He looks a lot thinner. You know what I mean? So I just, yeah, I don't think you want actually skinny Luca. Right. But thinner, Luca. Um, I think what is helpful and i think that he has taken this you know what happened last year to heart and this was the thing that i warned the mabs about after the trade that even if they were going to be right they're going to be wrong even if they were right that if they didn't trade him and

they signed him to an extension he was just going to get fat and out of shape and all these things he by trading him and motivating him and insulting him, they then put this extra chip on his shoulder. Now people can say, why didn't he do it during the year? I don't think you can do this type of thing during a season. You know what I mean? I think you have to this, you need an off season.

And he's about to be playing a ton of ball at Eurobasket for Slovenia. And I, right now he would be my early season pick to win league. MVP next year. And if he just torches Dallas every single time they play and it just doesn't even matter. God, I can't wait. I just can't wait if that were to happen. Also, by the way, shout out to Marco in the chat, watching from Slovenia. Yes.

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And then we get to the listeners. Yeah, so Matt Everett has been dealing with some backswordness and is set to miss another week of camp. You've been high on the Rams. Does this affect it at all? I think the guy just doesn't want to go to training camp. He's old. Oh, I hope that's it. That would be great.

That would be an awesome result here. If it's just old guy doesn't want to practice. So here is before training camp. there was one story of potential contender that hit my radar. And that was the CJ Stroud shoulder soreness. I was like, ooh, that's something to watch. C.J. Stroud, you know, like that he wasn't able to do full throwing practice or whatever. I'm like, that's something to watch.

That seems to have subsided, okay? But it was, it hit my radar. in training camp we've been lucky so far fingers crossed there hasn't been the like devastating superstar injury and there hasn't been the contender that has just been hit with a bunch of contributor injuries at least not yet so there have been to me two major stories out of training camp so far for contenders one is a positive one one is a worrisome one The positive one, and people can say this is, you know, Chief's colored glasses, but I'm not wrong about this.

The Chief's rookie first round pick, who was considered a top 10 talent who fell because people thought his knee was not right, and he might not be healthy for a good portion of his rookie year. Not only being healthy the first day of camp, but being slotted as the starting left tackle, not competing with Jalen Moore, who they signed to be the left tackle for that spot, and just being their left tackle from day one of camp to right now

is one of the biggest positive stories for any true contender this training camp. Because if they have that spot locked down, and then you have Jalen Moore, the guy they side from San Francisco and Jawan Taylor, the right tackle who's been a bit of a disappointment with Kansas City since they signed him from Jacksonville competing on the right side, then all of a sudden the chief's offensive line is totally different.

So, and there was, everyone agreed that Josh Simmons had the talent to potentially be the number one tackle in his draft class, but the injury was so worrisome, he slid. If the knee is really right, then the chief's dealing, taking care of one of the most important in one of the most expensive spots in football by drafting a guy at 32 is a game changer. That's in the positive direction for a contender. In a negative direction for a contender, it's this Stafford story. Because aside from confidence for your team's secondary, there is nothing positive that comes out of Jimmy G. practicing and playing in training camp.

And you need desperately a healthy Matt Stafford in order to contend. And I think the Rams can contend. I like Devon. Now, poor Devante Adam. He's like, you got to be kidding me. I got Matt's, I got Jimmy G throw me the wall again. I love Puka. I really like their D-line.

I obviously love McVeigh. I think Devante is good as a number two with the Rams. but it all comes undone without Stafford. And Stafford is 37. He got the shit kicked out of him for a decade in Detroit. He has been banged up at times with the Rams. I am, it's not the biggest story, but I am not going to ignore it as a potential big story.

So it's just something to watch. All right, let's get reminder, like, rate, subscribe, review. Let's get some listener questions to Monze. Curtis asked, are the Vikings, the NFC's versions of the Chiefs, great ownership, well-run. They have their Andy Reid and Kevin O'Connell, and now JJ is looking like the next one of homes based off training camp. It's one of the worst. I honestly think this might be one of the worst listener questions ever. I'm not yet ready to call Kevin O'Connell, Andy Reid.

Andy Reed in his first stop coaching early in his career, early in his tenure in Philadelphia, made four consecutive NFC championship games. Kevin O'Connell is 0-2 up to this point in his career in the postseason. And those losses have come to Daniel Jones. And who was it last year? Was it Jaden Daniels? Um, and I don't know that JJ is looking great in camp.

So I, I, I, now where they are like the chiefs in that, they had a solid starting quarterback in cousins and then I guess darn old as well. Um, but they wanted higher upside. So they drafted, you know, they they drafted a kid and said, we're going to roll the dice, but that's where the comparisons sadly end. All right. All right. Uh, Brandon, Bradnance. Brandon asked the Rams in round one, not not to the walk. Go ahead.

Brandon asks, Nick, would you say Joker is the player in the NBA, which you've changed your opinion the most on? Just in the fact that you were big time late to the all-time great party on them. Yes, 100%. Yeah. And, yeah, I did. Right when we first started the pod. Yeah.

When he just won all the MVPs despite having none of the accomplishments, which I still don't love. But yeah, I mean, he is an all-time great, and he does have the accomplishments now. And I also find him really endearing. So, yes, there's no question he's the player I've changed. Very well, dude. Well, and in the other direction, it's hardened.

Because for a long time, I was a hardened defender. I was like, you know, it gave him, cut him slack because nobody could beat the warrior. Honestly. You know what I mean? I thought he was. I thought his regular season dominance was like underrated. But then it was just- Lamar Jackson.

I know. So maybe that's one of the reasons I'm so hard on Lamar's because I got burnt by Hardin. Because I was like, he's not going to fit. It's not going to happen every year. But then it, you know, then it did. All right. I honestly think James Hardin's meltdowns in the postseason are worse than Lamar Jackson's, though.

I will say that. I said they're the same thing. Probably. But yeah. And there's certainly more of them. Right. Tamman asks, is there anything Bryce Young can do this season to change your opinion on him? Yeah, be good. Yeah, of course. If he's good, it will change my opinion of him. That's all. I just don't think he is going to be able to be good for a 17 game season at his size. That's it. I could be wrong. Yeah, like the games, the games and results matter. So yes, like guys can change my opinion of them. He has to be good. Next.

Chris asked I was listening to Thursday's episode of First Things First and you were talking about your heart skepticism being because of his great pieces why don't we give the same treatment to Burrow? So here's the thing. I think that Burrow does get a bit of the curve

of he has these great receivers but not to the same degree that Hertz has. Now I think that's fair in this regard. Burrow has two great receivers, the best duo in football. Hertz has two great receivers, the second or third best duo in football. Burroughs, though, I would say are better. But then Hertz also has, compared to Burrow, exponentially a better offensive line and exponentially a better running game.

So, like, that's part of it. But the other piece of it is, fair or not, man, for a lot of people, a huge piece of how they judge a quarterback is, third and nine, can he pick it up for me with a dart? And that is the one piece of Jalen's game that people still have some question of. Fair or not, they have some question of,

and no one has any question of it with Borough. So that's the answer to that question. All right, next. Noah asked, when you and Danny were doing radio together back in the day, did you ever talk about one day being on TV together? Or was that never a thought? never thought he and I both thought we were radio lifers um yeah i mean we certainly always talked

about you know working together and doing something collaborating but yeah i mean tv the tv piece of this is one of the more shocking kind of turn of events of my professional life uh to be totally honest all right last one uh joel asked where did nick go fishing saw the maize and want this and what's the story i'm a bit of a fisherman myself So fishermen to fishermen. So how did he see the mahis? I'm trying to figure out. Did your mom post it?

DeMazze? Did we put it on the pod? Yeah, I was about to say it might have been something podcast. Oh, you know what? I know what it was. The walk-in video from first things first yesterday. Oh, that's what it was. And I held up my phone.

I was in the Bahamas for a couple days. And we didn't have the show Friday. And so I went down. I've got to tell us. I'll end the story on. this i have to tell you this this is unbelievable so i had an amazing time in the bahamas by the way shout out um to the people of the bahamas who are huge first things first viewers oh yeah like the people they couldn't believe it like shockingly popular amongst the workers um it was crazy

but so short version of this story as best as i can because i got to go um because i'm going on the herd today with danny actually which is really cool a year year ago, I won Hank Azaria's charity poker tournament with the Mets. It was at City Field. It was like a hundred people playing. I won it. Top prize was four days in a super nice suite at Bahamara in the Bahamas. Okay.

I think kind of forgot about it and then found out that that thing was going to expire in like a month. So I reached out to Bahamara. I was like, hey, I have this certificate. I'd like to use it this coming weekend. They're like, oh, that sweet that you're supposed to have is not available, the days you're talking about. But a different one might be and blah, blah, blah. So we go back and forth. And ultimately, they're like, listen, they were super nice and super helpful.

And shout out to them. They're like, we can give you the suite for Sunday to Wednesday. But I obviously got to be at work. but your mom and sister could go. So I'm like, all right, I'll go down Friday and leave Sunday afternoon. Your mom and sister can come down Sunday morning, have a little mother daughter four days in the Bahamas,

and they can use the suite anyway because there's two of them that's just one of me. I'll just get whatever the cheapest room possible is. And so I went down there two days by myself, golfed twice on Friday, went fishing, that's where I call it the Mahi, my gambled eight by myself. Who's great? Met a guy named Allen, who used to be an investment banker, made a bunch of money,

and now is a literal treasure hunter, like literally, like hires crews to like scour the ocean floor, and he's making a TV show about it looking for a $30 billion wreck somewhere. Like, it's really cool. So I had a great time. I didn't pick your mom and sister up from the airport, driving back, we have lunch, and then I go to the airport. Your mom then facetimes me and shows me the room that I won in this poker tournament, but I did not set foot in. This room, DeMonte, a hotel room, has a pool table, two kitchens, a theater, a peloton. four balconies three one two three 24 hour butlers to help set things up for you it is i realized

after the fact the reason this was a prize in the charity poker tournament was someone i think who was in the charity poker tournament is a casino whale and got gets comps oh you know what i mean like because they want you to come down and gamble or whatever and so they had them include it um it might be the nicest hotel room i've ever seen in my life i'm not using it your mom and sister it could be 10 people it's just your mom and sister you're like your your your mom to called me she's like i texted the butler he set up a massage and reservations for us and we're doing this i'm like this is unbelievable they're just living the life but i do have to say no free ads um But I would do ads for Bahamara.

That place was great. I'd never been there. I'd been to Atlanta a few times because that's where the World Series of Poker is. The World Series of Poker Paradise, same island, but, you know, different part of it. I'd never been there. We should go sometime. DeMonte, the next time you come to New York, because it's a short flight, I'd go again for just two days. It was a ton of fun.

I really enjoyed it. Same. We went. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. No, we'd never been to the Bahamas. Oh, okay.

I thought that was the area. No, we went to... Caribbean. It's all in the Caribbean. We went to what you're thinking of is Grand Cayman. We went to Grand Cayman, but we didn't go to the Bahamas. But it also has, and I didn't take advantage of it, like, a massive water park. A bunch of slides, everything.

All right, no more free ads. I'm not... Lazy River? It's just like, was there a lazy river? Too. Everything. It was pretty sick. All right. Yeah.

And short flight from New York. All right, I will say volume and blue duck folks. Let's send this off to the Bahamara people. This is the one free ad they're getting, I guess. But let's get a partnership going. All right, like, rate, subscribe review. Thank you to volume, Blue Duck, Draft Kings, Boost Mobile, Mando, all that. I will see you guys on.

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