The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - Nick Wright REACTS to USA's GOLD MEDAL vs. Canada, 2026 Winter Olympics + Jaylen Brown NBA MVP?

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet.   Nick Wright reacts to the 2026 Winter Olympics including Team USA's stunning victory over Canada in hockey's gold medal game as well as Alyssa Liu's gold medal figure skating performance that nearly brought Nick to tears. Later, Nick discusses whether Jaylen Brown should be the NBA's MVP and what a Jayson Tatum return could mean for the Celtics. Next, Nick breaks down what he thinks would happen had LeBron James stayed with the Miami Heat and what the ceiling is for the Lakers. The show ends with Nick sharing stories from his wild poker night in Las Vegas. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are from a hotel room on the West Coast as I maybe just live here now. Who knows? It would appear flights may resume tonight. I'm not certain of it. It could have been worse. Old KW, I think avoided being caught literally in the epicenter of a Mexican cartel war by 12 hours. And so he just as, you know, there have been, you know, from what's, hey, DeMons, they good to see you.

Hey, good to see you. I've had a great weekend with you, buddy. Yes, sir. So, you know, it could be worse. I'm not, right. Legitimately scary stuff going on south of here. This is just a pain in the butt travel. And so I do think I'll be back in our regular studio for TV and the regular studio for the podcast.

By tomorrow, maybe, by Thursday, I would be surprised if not. And again, if it's Friday and I'm still here, I just might move here. De Manzay's on this coast. My daughter's on this coast. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, who knows? My wife's family is out here. So that's what it is.

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Take it away, Pops. So here's the thing. And this is, you know, I joked about this with KW on TV. yesterday that he always says I love sport not sports I love sport and there are moments in the Olympics in particular where that is proven to simply be true and I will get to the hockey in a moment which should have just been an awesome story but because we just live on the dumbest timeline. There's, you know, a tiny bit of controversy attached to it, I guess. And I guess there's maybe even people could find a way for there to be some controversy in the Alyssa Lou figure skating gold.

But here's why I wanted to start with this. I do not know anything about figure skating. When I'm watching, I can see if somebody did more rotations than, the previous jump but I don't know if something's a double or a triple I certainly don't know the difference between a toe loop and an axle and I know that the guy who got nervous and kind of screwed up his individual they called him the quad god and I learned you know I didn't learn that was because he could do a quadruple axle I you know I did I do remember watching the figure skating movie the cutting edge when I was a kid and I remember obviously Carragon Harding and that controversy, okay?

With that said, there is something that would be a little like sanguine, if not corny here, but I don't mind. There is something truly beautiful and touching about athletic feats that have the ability to transcend the understanding of a sport. So if you watched Alyssa Luce 4.5 minute gold medal winning routine, cold, as I did, I watched it, bleary-eyed on a plane from Vegas to San Francisco at 6.30 in the morning after having slept for maybe a combined two and a half hours in the previous two days. and I was scrolling Twitter and it seemed like every fourth tweet was this four and a half minute video. So I was like, I've got to watch it. And I'm not lying to you. I say two minutes in, I was like, am I getting choked up? By the end, I was, I almost had tears in my eyes and I immediately watched it again.

I don't know why. I can't explain it. I don't, I can't define what made that breakthrough to me as, oh my God, I'm watching something specifically excellent. And there is something to sports where

you can walk into an art gallery and maybe be taken, taken aback by something, but very often the best art, someone kind of has to explain to you why it's great. You can hear music and really like it, but very often the best, like, oh my God, this is historically excellent. Someone who's an expert has to explain why this was, you know, why this composition or whatever was so difficult or so important. I think a lot of people have read some of the greatest books ever and walked away from them and like, okay, I thought that was good,

but I don't totally understand why this is a classic. There is something about feats of athletic brilliance that the human brain just intuitively recognizes as, great. And I watched that young lady do that four and a half minute routine. And it was literally breathtaking. And then afterwards you read about her story and about how, I mean, she was quite literally born to do this. Her dad really, really wanted, you know, I don't want to get it wrong, but it seems like her dad was a Michelle Kwan figure skating superfan and tried to have, you know, a daughter that could follow in those footsteps.

And then she competed in the Olympics at 16. And then the pressure of this is the only thing I've ever been, you know, allowed to do or told to do or I was built for. She retired and then came back at 18 and is a very, you know, it's very individual. doesn't really have the look from body type hair piercings anything to traditional figure skaters and she was just out there with utter incomplete joy crushing in the single biggest moment of her life and i thought it was just spectacular and so i i don't listen i understand There are actual figure skating experts that are, you know, said, well, you know, she used, she blade edged on one of her jumps or this. I don't care.

I've watched that performance four times. I'll watch it again. And it was a truly beautiful feat of athleticism by a young woman who the figure skating community was intimately familiar with. I was not, and I thought it was a privilege to be able to see. So that was the, you know, the first, for me, holy shit moment of the Olympics. And then you have, for the first time in my life, for the first time since the miracle on ice, team USA hockey wins the goal over Canada. Canada, you know, the best hockey nation in the world. Team USA lost in the four nations gold medal game to Canada,

and now we beat them in overtime of the Olympics. After they beat us in overtime of the Olympics in the gold medal game, when Sidney Crosby hit the goal, I don't know, was that 2010? I'm not quite certain. And that was just awesome. And our women's team won as well. And here is what I would say about, here's what I would say about the, when I say the controversy, the folks feeling, folks, some folks who share my politics sometimes feel very funny about being USA USA. And I'm here to tell you, again, you feel however you want, but I shouldn't say you shouldn't.

I wouldn't feel that way. And I would say, pardon me, I'm not getting choked up, I promise, my voice at 630 in the morning over here. There is something to be said for being proud and prideful in what you know. a nation is supposed to represent and can represent and what its foundational principles are built upon, while being upset and disappointed, that you feel it is not living up to that promise each and every day, or some of our political actors on the largest stage are not fulfilling that promise, you can feel that way and still feel pretty awesome that Team USA hockey as a huge underdog went and beat Canada.

And that type of patriotism wrapped in sports, I think can be really. profound. And it's not, you can feel that way and feel prideful about it, even if you, you know, feel a different type of way of the director of the FBI, taking the FBI's jet to chug beers in the locker room after. Like those, you can hold those ideas in different parts of your brain. Um, and so, listen, I just, I love the Olympics. I love the Olympics. I love the Olympics. I love the Olympics. I think Simmons's idea of if instead of every four years

winter, summer World Cup, if we found a way to get those three international events on three year rotations, so every year we had one of them would be sick. But this year, because there are on four year

rotations, yes, that does mean some years we have neither, but this year we get both. This year we have the Winter Olympics, and then in a few months we have the World Cup. And so I thought it was awesome. I know you have a couple follow-ups here to Monk before we get to the other stuff. What's the best sports comparison you could think of for USA beating Canada in hockey?

Well, I do think it would have been like, and I know the Team USA did in basketball. You know, we did lose a gold medal. So I think that's probably, what year did we, was it 04? It was Team USA basketball by the Olympics. It was 04, right? Was it 0408? 04 was, sorry, 04, that's right. Because everyone, I should have known it was 04 because people blame LeBron even though he was 19.

Why didn't you carry us, kiddo? And so the I think that's probably where a country, you know, you can lose, but it's stunning when you do and you lose to a nation where that isn't their big thing. Like that's the, it's like if Canada, the U.S. was better than, I don't know, again, I'm talking a little, I'm a little over my skis, no pun intended here. you know, Finland or Sweden in hockey. Um, I think maybe. Again, I pick one of the countries. You've got to be better than one of them. But that's their main sport.

Um, so if Canada maybe had lost to a nation where it was, they were a bigger favorite, but it was that nation's main sport. Yeah. That is a different feel than it's like, this is like our sixth sport in the U.S. And we won. Uh, and it was evidently. it was controversial. Are we that much worse than Canada and hockey, though?

Yes. That, well, okay, I thought we were a little bit closer. So, I mean, I mean, all, Canada is. I know it's their sport, 100%. I mean, I think since, hold on, I should have looked this up. I apologize. Gold medal winners hockey Olympics. So we won Monset in 1980.

Yeah, that was the last time we won gold. Well, I mean. So, no, but I'm just saying. since then this is who is who's won is in 84 it was the Soviets

in 88 the Soviets in 92 I guess the Soviets the unified team 94 Sweden 98 Czech Republic 02 Canada 06 Sweden

2010 Canada 2014 2014 Canada 18, Russia, 22, Finland. Canada, you know, Canada has nine golds. Yeah, Canada's got nine golds and five silvers. The U.S. has three golds and eight silver. So just historically, you know, and it's their biggest sport by a mile. Right.

And so that's what it is. And then this is a great question about Hellebuck. which i had not thought about you think it's going to be weird for hell about going back to win a big so i didn't believe i didn't think of this yesterday when we were talking about on the show that he plays for a canadian hockey yeah now it is so again i am i am very honest with you guys when i parachute into a sport like i am not a hockey guy i'm not pretending just we went and did the daytona five hundred ten days ago i take my job very seriously i prep really hard I really care and I want to learn, but I'm not going to pretend.

If I pretend it like I was an expert on everything, then the things I actually am an expert on, I think you guys wouldn't take me seriously on. And hockey is not my thing. But I, again, I can research and I can read. I had no idea that Hellebuck, that Team USA just had the best goalie in the world. That three times he's won the Vesna Trophy, which is goalie of the year.

in hockey. And last year to Monzae in the NHL, he just flat one league MVP, which it's, I think, is relatively rare for a goalie to win. You know what I mean? And so, but he, the Winnipeg Jets are not very good. He hasn't really had playoff success. He hasn't won a Stanley Cup. And so for him, MVP of the Olympics. Yeah. And for him to stop 41 of, you didn't have to be a hockey expert to know that guy was kicking ass in that gold medal game. And I thought it was like 47. Two shots. No, it's 41 to 42. I believe. And the other cool thing, so there were brothers, de Monzae, on the U.S. Men's Olympic team. Their mom, I believe, won gold for the women's team years ago. One brother scored an overtime game winner in the quarterfinal, and the other brother scored the overtime game winner in the final. That's sick. That's sick.

That's really sick. That's really like it's that. So there's just cool Olympic stories like that. And then also, and I know this lady is maybe like politically controversial for some. Eileen Goo, the skier, because she's an American with Chinese heritage who skied for China. Again, I don't know. I have not fully researched on any of that. And I'm not trying to run from it.

I just really, I didn't spend time on it. She gave one of, in fact, you know what? I'm going to do something on the fly here. Guys, see if you can pull up. It's a 90-second sound bite. See if you can pull up Eileen Goose answer. when the beginning of the question is do you think before you speak, which sounds awful, but the question ended up being awesome.

And then just tell me in the dock if we win, if and when we have the ability to play it. It is one of the most profound. I was going to send it to Monsei to our family group chat, but you guys, but it was for you and your sisters to see. But I don't think, I think you're the only one who watches the videos that I sent.

Um, but it is such an awesome response from a legend in her sport. And so your mom, by the way, is walking around this hotel room. Just, just telling me to shut up and making fun of all my profound commentary. No, she was sitting there. That's insane. Yeah, she's five feet away. Um, so you guys just tell me in the dock if we get it. I think all that.

And I think Lindsay Vaughn being like, I'm going out on. my shield. I got a torn ACL. I want to compete in one more Olympics. If I get hurt, I get hurt. And then she ended up, Damase, she almost, she could have lost her leg. Her leg. Yeah. Like for, um, and the other tricky thing about that is like, I don't exactly know how it works because she was injured in Italy. Her, you know, the surgeon she has worked with in the past, her doctor, all that stuff, are U.S. certified doctors. It seems like they let her. doctor come over to do the surgeries? I don't know. You know what I mean? You any stuff like that foreign country, there's different rules and stuff. So what the,

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And LeBron came out and said after they blew the Lakers out that Jalen Brown should be in MVP talks. Where do you think he stacks up in the MVP race right now? Demandze, I, before I even answer that, I want to say this. Because I have always thought Jalen Brown was a good. You know what? This is not even fair for me to say. I've always thought he was good.

Like I obviously never thought Jalen Brown was bad. But when they gave him his first contract extension, I tweeted, congrats on the Celtics for signing a homeless man's Kauai Leonard to a max. You know what I mean? So the, and he has just consistently exceeded my own expectations. Okay. He's a finals MVP.

Even given that, what he has done this year, year is beyond belief if if you had told me he jalen brown was going to be averaging almost 30 points a game i would have said the celtics must be awful yeah like that that you know what i mean that yeah that's fair but that i would have thought they you know they ended up trading even more piece kind of doing what indiana's doing this year like just take take it on the chin one year and then you know reboot for when tatum's back and that you know he's average he's you know good stats bad team it would have been and i don't mind admitting when i'm wrong like i

it would have been incomprehensible to me that jalen brown could play at this level for in the team be this good yeah yeah so go ahead i think well with the way with the way that people always talked about Tatum and Brown and I feel like it was confusing who was the number one but Jalen Brown was always the guy who I feel like was a little bit more aggressive and I mean obviously it's rough that Tatum

is hurt right now but I do think this gave Jalen Brown a chance to be his like actual self listen and he's he's always said maybe more often than he should how much he has sacrificed for the team in the past

Simmons pointed out He was like Jalen probably had three too many comments along the lines of, man, this is so much fun. And three too few, man, we can't wait till we get Tatum back. So like there is a little bit up, but I don't, I don't, I first want to give Jailen. They have a good relationship at the end of the day. So I trust like I trust it. They aren't guys. Yeah, but there, I think, but it does.

I think they are both very competitive. Yeah. And I think that. you know, I think it's very clear Jason Tatum is the better player, but I don't think that Jalen, and I'm not saying you should feel this way. I just, I don't know that Jalen Brown feels that way.

Yeah, and so this year and the success they're having and all of that is, you know, a real validation for him. And so I'll give you the Tatum piece in a moment. To answer your question, I would have Jalen Brown third in the MVP race. I would have Yokic, Shea, ahead of him.

J.B. 3rd. And I would have Jalen Brown third. And then I would have Ked 4, Wimby 5, or Wimby 5, Ked 4. They played last night. You know, one game doesn't flip it, but maybe. And my guy, Luca, on the outside looking in at 6. But Joker and Shea might not be eligible for it because of the games. Like, Joker can only miss, I think, two more.

She has more wiggle room on that, but not a ton. Man, if the Celtics are the top two seed and Jalen Brown's just out there doing this night in, night out, he's got to have real MVP consideration. He deserves it, man. And it's got to be about what you've actually accomplished rather than, you know, what bucket we put you in beforehand. And what do you think our ceiling is with that? Well, so this is, no, this is where it gets complicated. Right. So I do not believe the Celtics can win the championship as presently constituted without Tatum.

Okay. But I also feel sick for Tatum because it feels like... Yeah. Like how do I get back in? And let's just walk down the different paths, right? The safest thing for Tatum is wait till next year. Yeah. That probably avoids the most criticism.

Porto's Achilles in the playoffs, I don't think. But there would still be some level of, oh, man, if he could have just come back for the playoffs, could we have won the title? Right. It also does, waiting till next year, open up the tiny possibility. and I don't even know what you do with this if this happens, that they win the title. Without, which, listen, I am not speaking for Jason Tatum,

I am speaking for human beings. People can want, people they love to succeed without them, without necessarily wanting them to, get the ultimate greatest success imaginable without them. You know what? Like, you can, um,

if, you know, if I, if I, if I left the TV show, I would want Wilds and Brew to do really well. If they all of a sudden ripped off a couple Emmys in a row when we never won one, I would be like,

damn. What the heck? What the heck? Right. That's kind of, that's kind of tough. Um, And so the and so like that's just human nature, right?

Yeah. But then there is the element of if he comes back, I think they could win the title with a 75% Jason Tatum. Me too. They're that good like this. But if they don't, are people going to be like, oh, man, did he mess it up? Messed up the floor. Did we have a good thing going?

Whatever it is. There's also this. he comes back he already has that thing hanging over him that he didn't win the finals MVP the one time he comes back he's not himself they make the finals and he has a rough finals he would be like oh

I mean come on I don't think I want to make this clear I am not saying this is fair stuff also should I close the curtain behind me tell me in my ear guys if I should It's just the reality of sports and the fans. Right. Fans in the media.

Hold on one second to Monty. Daniel, tell me yes or no. I didn't hear you. Yeah, thin curtain. The Hotel Thin Curtain has been requested. Hold on, guys. Let's see if this looks better. Hotel Thin Curtain activated.

All right, I'm back. And so, I don't know if that helped at all. And so I just, I feel. Jason Tatum is a very thoughtful and introspective guy. I think we all know that. He cares a lot. He also cares a lot about legacy. I think that's fair to say.

And he is in, his success in this rehab has put him in an impossible position. Because if he had rehabbed more according to a traditional timeline, everyone would simply be targeting the beginning of next season. Because he's so far ahead of schedule, he now, like, and because the team, it'd be wondering if the team were right now the eight seed. And it's like, but because the team's playing well, and he's ahead of schedule. And I don't know. I do not envy the position he's in. Yeah. And, and it is, it is, I don't know.

Play it safe. But I do go ahead. I just say, play it safe. I mean, you've seen how that can. I feel, Clay Thompson, Carrie Irving. I mean, Carrie Irving is an older guy, but I like how he's kind of, he's, he's done. I think that you don't want to sacrifice later for. especially if we're already doing well right now

but I mean see how you feel in a couple months or a month and a half, whatever it may be. Buddy, I think it's on the board he's back in two weeks. Yeah. And I think I think he either comes back in March or not at all. That's my guess.

I think that it's either I'm coming back with some ramp up before the playoffs. Before the playoffs, right? If he's not there about playoffs, he's not coming. Right. And so but here's the other thing. I do think you guys can win the title if he comes back. Yeah.

It's a lot of, and I don't think you need Tatum at peak Tatum. You know what? Like, I think that your guys, your guys coaching in math edge, like you said. Yeah.

Yeah. Is enough if you just drop him in. All right, before we get to Spurs Pistons and some LeBron stuff, we got a lot to do. The show's going longer than I thought today. and all my poker stuff. I want everyone to listen to this Eileen goo.

Did we keep the question in it, guys? If not, the question is, do you think before you speak? And then the questioner went on to explain, because you answer so quickly, but you're so thoughtful. Let's go ahead and play this. And everybody really listen to what this woman is saying. Do you think before you speak? because you answer questions so quickly and so comprehensively, whether it's about geopolitics or your sport or aerodynamics.

Like, can you take us into your brain? Thank you, Charlotte. That's very kind. Oh, man. Do I think, I think overall I'm just a pensive person. Like, I'm a very introspective. I'm an introspective young woman. Like, I spend a lot of time in my head. And it's not a bad place to be.

I journal a lot. I break down all of my thought processes. I think I apply a very analytical lens to my own thinking, and I kind of modify it because it's so interesting. You can control what you think. Like, you can control how you think, and therefore you can control who you are. And especially as a young person, like, I'm 22.

So with neuroplasticity on my side, I can literally become exactly who I want to be. How cool is that? Like, how empowering is that, right? And so the fact is I get to become every day the kind of person that me at age eight would revere. Like I would be obsessed with me today. Are you kidding? I would love me.

And I think that's the biggest flex of all time that you can have like little younger you be proud of you today. And so I guess for me it's like yes I spend a lot of time in my own head. Yes, I think a lot. But it's not really like in an egotistical kind of way. It's in like a tinkering like a scientist kind of way. I'm always like trying to modify. I'm trying to think how can I be better?

How can I approach my own brain the way that I approach my craft of free skiing so that I can be better tomorrow than I was. I think that is so awesome. That was awesome. That is awesome and I'd never heard the term neuroplasticity. Yeah, that's yes. But then I looked it up after and so what she's talking about is for young people and this applies to you to Monzee. It certainly applies even more so to your brain is more valuable right when you're younger? Yes. exactly and it's still forming and so what she's saying is like if i want to be a certain type of

person i can just make myself that type of person i can just decide i want to be this type of person make the make it a self-fulfilling prophecy and rewire my own brain into that is just who i am and I think that in some ways is true for everyone at any age it is definitionally true for young people yes and so what she is saying there I thought was just like a good message it's a great message um and so and again I know some people really don't like that woman because of the she skied for China instead of the US again I I this is not me trying to like avoid criticism of china this is purely something where i am simply going to say i i have done i have done as much research on that topic as i've done on

uh hellas skiing and which is to say none i know and so you call me ignorant for it it's fine i'm just talking about that message right there i know it was awesome and the other thing she said that I this is where I'll show my ego a bit that I really took to heart but I think is a really cool idea for people to consider as they make life choices or as they hit a fork in the road is am I making the decisions and living the life or on the path to being the type of person that young me would admire. Like I think that's a really, like I, when she said young me, eight year old me would be obsessed with me right now.

I think it's because eight year old her was a diet, wanted to be the greatest skier in the world. She is the greatest skier in the world. She's like, I would be my own superhero. And so I just think that was awesome. And that lady's question was great. And it was, she's right. It was like that was a very extemporary.

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Hold on real quick. Before you do it. Because in our rundown, and I swear I'm not trying to put anyone on blast. I'm trying to see if this was intentional because I like that. If this was intentional, I'm envious of it. And if it was an accident, I'm stealing it. Because the word written is hypotheticals, which is either a mistype or it's a word that should exist. like, because I thought, like the, oh, they just laughed and said it's a typo, type.

I thought it was like hypothetical theatricals. Theatrical hypotheticals is what it was. And I thought we were going to create a new bit. Honestly, that's what I, a new segment, hypotheticals. All right. Okay. So again, I wasn't trying to be a, uh, uh, a annoyance there. I just thought we stumbled upon brilliance.

All right, go ahead, DeMonte. Now we can do it. So Pat Riley had a statue unveiled in L.A. this weekend, and him and LeBron had a little convo about what it would have been like if LeBron had stayed in Miami for a few more years. How do you think, hypothetically, that that would have won? Yeah. I think eventually LeBron would have won at least one more championship,

but I think LeBron was smart. strategic and lucky in leaving. I think he was smart in leaving in this way. He saw more than anybody that Dwayne Wade, who's one of the 30 greatest players in the history of the sport, was done as an elite player. That in 2014, in the regular season, they load manage D Wade.

He still only averaged 19 a game, and then they did that, so in the playoffs, he would be peak D. Wade, and in the playoffs, he averaged 18 a game. His, you know, his style of play, DeMonse, I don't know if you remember, you're so young, but when he first came into the league,

seen the falls. But, yeah, but also, there was an ad campaign for his shoe company I think it was Adidas but it was DeWay driving to the basket and getting knocked down driving to the basket getting knocked down

and the ad campaign was not get knocked down seven get up eight with the idea being just be relentless and that was his style and he was a brilliant player but when that's your style your career can get

compressed and that's what happened to him So this is not a criticism of D. Wade. It's just a reality. And LeBron saw, you know, up close and personal, when this guy is, this guy's time as an elite player is not ending. It has ended. And so there was that piece of it.

The good fortune is, I said, LeBron, this is not good fortune. So I want to retract that comment. LeBron obviously did not know Chris Bosch was about to be diagnosed with career-ending blood clots. So that's bad luck for everyone involved. But I'm saying, had he stayed, it's not like Chris Bosch wouldn't have gotten the blood clots. Like, he still would have had to deal with that. So it was strategic in seeing what was happening with D. Wade,

the Chris Bosch thing happened, which would have really been probably, was problematic for the heat. And then the legacy piece was, let's say he would have won two more rings in Miami. They would not have weighed nearly as heavily as the one in Cleveland, much less the one in Cleveland plus one more than with the Lakers. So yes, I think LeBron, you know, still would have,

you know, he had multiple years left. After he left Miami, he had the next four years, he was by a wide margin, the best player in the sport still. And you could argue up until the year after the bubble, he was the best player in the sport. But leaving Miami was smart, but I do think he... He would have got another one. Yes. Like Pat Riley's too good and Miami's too much of a draw for that they would have. But in the short term, they were going to be handed.

by the blood clots from boss that you didn't know was coming and by what had happened to D. Wade. Let's talk about LeBron's current team for a moment here before we get to some NFL stuff. So, yeah, the Lakers are the five seed and two games out of the playing. It's a tight over there in the West. But you don't seem too confident in the Luca LeBron-led team. What are the Lakers season? Or what is the Lakers sealing this season? Absolute.

Everything breaks perfect. ceiling is the conference finals. Realistic ceiling is win a round and losing round too. I and this is tough man. Well, and this is where this is where the Lakers should be

really concerned. Okay. So they're off, you know, they're I think seven and 11. I had this. You know what? I didn't say. I think I can just tell you exactly what they are because Josh, our great stats guy, sent it to me yesterday. Sorry, I have to go through 50 flight emails before I can find. Here it is. So the Lakers this year against teams one through 10 in the West. So the other West playoff or playing teams are 9. 13 being outscored by seven points per game. Not good. The Lakers against the top four in the east and west. So the top eight teams in the league are two and 11 getting out scored by 17 points per game.

So when they've played the big boys, they've gotten clocked. Now they are the best clutch team in the league and they are 25 and oh. when leading after three quarters, which has been a trademark of LeBron's, last year in Cleveland, that Cavs team, I believe, was playoffs and regular season. I believe 54 and O when leading after three quarters.

LeBron had a Lakers team that was like, I think with AD when they won the championship, they were like 44 and one when leading after three quarters. They're like, that's, if the game, game is going according to the Lakers script and LeBron can control the chess board at the end. They're in great shape.

But otherwise, they're in bad shape. And here is where, and I know, I know folks are like, well, this albatross of a LeBron contract, guys, I'm not going to revisit this too much. If LeBron had opted out this offseason and walked away and taken his $54 million salary off the books, the Lakers would have opened up $0 of cap space. Okay, so like I've explained that multiple times. It is just the facts. People don't want to accept it. That's fine.

And you also have to contend with the fact that LeBron is not the problem with the Lakers. He's either the second or third best player on the team. And if you were the Lakers, DeMontzay, and LeBron leaves, here's my question. Because the Lakers pending free agents, because it's not just Braun. It's also arguably their fourth best player, Rui. They obviously have to re-sign Austin Reeves.

And their other free agents are Kleba, who cares, Luke Kennard, and Jackson Hayes, with player options for Marcus Smart, DeAndre Aiton and Austin Reeves who they're going to resent. Okay. If LeBron walks away, DeMazze, how many championship level starters do the Lakers have on the roster? Well, I mean, Luca hasn't been.

No, but not, no, no, no, no, but like guys, you could be like, they could be a starter on a championship. Luca Dodgers. And Austin. It also, yeah, AR2, yeah. It's fair. Two, three. guy. That's it, though. You got to find three starters. You got to build a whole roster.

And you have now, you had Luca before last year's trade deadline. You stood pat. This offseason, you punted. This trade deadline, you punted. And I look at the West Desmondse. And I'm like, so how are the Lakers, forget this year, next year, going to, to be better than Oklahoma City. How are the Lakers next year going to be better than San Antonio? How are the Lakers going to be better than Denver? How? Like, what is the process for this to happen?

And if the answer is get Janus, fine. But if you, first of all, I don't know if that fixes everything, but getting, you, you have Luca and Janus, you can win the title, obviously. But if it's not get Janus, then the hell are you going to do? And so I just think they are, I think there is no player in the league more stylistically similar to late stage LeBron than Luca. They did such a terrible job at putting the right pieces around late stage LeBron that they don't have the right pieces in place for Luca. Like had they built a roster that was perfect for Braun, defensive guys and shooters, then guess what? When you trade for Luke, it's like, ready to go.

You modeled your game after Braun just without the athleticism. They didn't. Do you think there's an actual path to them getting honest? Like, what would that be? Yeah, there definitely is a path. Yonis telling the Bucks, I will only go to the Lakers. that and by the way that's the only path

anything else is not a path they can't make the best offer they can't create the best package it would have to be Jan is forcing Milwaukee's hand and Milwaukee being okay with it okay all right

let me before we get to our poker stuff we much well let me just say this on the front end I still think the Tush push is getting banned next year to Monzae I know right now the reporting is it won't be. With all the rough officiated and stuff, it's, it's ugly. It's ugly. Nobody can officiate it.

The Eagles don't even like doing it anymore. I don't, and so I just don't think, I don't think, sorry, your mom just walked back in. I don't think that it's going to, I know right now the reporting is nobody is proposing a rule change. so far it's only been two years right no that they've done it four three four I don't know man it's been a big story for three but I just want to remind the audience

last year this time of year they were trying to get rid of it Goodell realized they didn't have the votes to get rid of it he tabled it until later in the offseason then they voted on it in May and it almost got eliminated I just wonder if there's going to be a late push

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So last week you were playing and poker goes, no gamble, no future game. So you won some big hands. You got some beef. There's even some story you said you wanted to tell. How was Vegas last week? Pretty amazing. All time 48 hours. Before I even get to the game, I want to just shout out some.

people because the poker community in Vegas has really embraced me, and I really appreciate that. And so in it, I'll get to the no gamble, no future streamed game that you guys hopefully watched on this channel. But then after that, I would like to shout out Crazy Mike for allowing me maybe foolishly on my behalf, you know, more than three, less than 11 McAllen's end of the night to briefly join his 400, 800 mixed game at Resorts World, where I look to my left. I'm like, that's Chino Ream. That's Jesse Lones. That's angry John Manette. I, yeah, you know what? I probably shouldn't be sitting in this game and I left, but they let me sit there briefly. Shout out to them. The next day,

I stumbled over to Bellagio to play a different 80160 mix game. My pal Peter runs that. I don't know if he runs the game, but it feels like it's his game. The table was full. He allowed me to sit in for maybe he thought it was going to be a bit. I played for nine hours with my buddy Eli Elisra, who's just a legend of the game, won a little bit in that game. and then into the night,

going back to my room at Aria, I'm like, well, I got to go stop by the poker room at 1 in the morning, 6 a.m. flight. And I see my buddy MJ running his 25, 50, no limit game. I'm like, ah, I'll sit in that game for a bit. And he played there until about 3.30 in the morning before I had to get on my flight. So shout out to all those folks and shout out to their games. I appreciate the different properties we've played. But I went to Vegas for the no gamble, no future,

cash game, streamed cash game. And this was initially going to be a 2550 game where people bought in, for around 10 grand. Then my pal Antonio Esfondiari got his hands on it. He ended up setting the lineup. He ended up setting the game. They played the day before as well. Somehow it turned into a 100, 200 game,

and somehow Antonio in the first night of it lost. I mean, it's documented. He won't mind me saying $380,000. And so night two, it's certainly not going to, he's not going to play smaller. and now it's a 100, 200 game with like a $400 straddle, sometimes an $800 restraddle. And when Antonio had something to say about it,

a $600 re-restraddle. And by the way, every two hours, they wanted to do 10K PLO flips, which means everybody puts $10,000 in the middle. We all get four cards. The dealer then runs out a five card board. You do nothing. You turn your cards over and whoever has the best hand gets the 70 from the middle of the table.

Right. And so to say this game played bigger than I expected it to would be an understatement. However, I love the poker go crew. I work with the poker go crew. More on that in a moment. I love Antonio. And there was a guy in the game that they call Senior Tilt or they call him Kee-Kee-Kee. who your tilt is tough that's a nice nickname right there I well yep that's nice

who I find wildly irritating and I told my buddies forehand I was like listen I'm me send the table with this guy for seven hours at some point it's gonna come out that I find him irritating and added bonus de Monsei was he no fault of his own on this but had no clue who I am none like I think he thought

I was like a mid-stakes aspiring professional poker player correct um like at one point he said like the only like one-on-one interaction we had at the table early in the night he was like

he's like so somebody told me like you have you do a podcast or something like that's cool. I'm like yeah. Uh, that's right. And, uh, and, and he kept throughout the whole night. So the night before, DeMonte, when Antonio lost all that money, he was the big winner. Okay. And he left the game early. There was a dinner break. Everyone went to dinner. Everyone came back to keep playing. And he never came back. That is, Can you do that? Is that like frowned upon in the poker community? You can do it, but it is frowned upon.

Right. The general kind of rule is, if there's a game that's supposed to run for a set amount of time, if you're losing, you can leave whenever you want. Nobody's going to make you, if you're losing. But if you're winning, you tip the etiquette is. Right. Don't go a big and then just dip. Right. Exactly.

But Monday, he did. or not Monday, the first day of the game. So day two, the whole time we're playing, he keeps referencing how he has to leave early again. And he's saying because my plane leaves at seven. My plane this, my plane that, my plane. He keeps saying my plane. He keeps saying my plane.

And he also travels. He travels everywhere with two security guards and a camera crew. I'm like, okay, man. Like, in these games, they're legitimate, like, billionaires that play. They don't, they don't have, they don't have multiple security guards. The only person I've ever seen at one of these games brings, like the level of security this guy brings is Kevin Hart who's one of the 30 most famous people in the world um so I so and but he keeps saying my plane you're

until um and in my head I'm like well if it's your fucking plane you can stay as long as you want whatever you want right so I finally I was like hey I have a question is it your or not? And he immediately, immediately got defensive. And let me add one other thing. This guy is an ultimate needler. He's a little bit of an,

he's a little bit of an angler, if you ask me. I watched a game where he cut out $150,000 bet, put it over the line to bet it. It was a bluff, saw the other guy was about to call, and then pulled it back,

which is stone. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I don't even play poker like that. Yeah, I don't. No, no, no. So that, that if, in a real, in a regular casino, the other guy could call the floor and be like, that bet stands. But in these games, it's kind of a gentleman's game, but that was not a gentlemanly thing. And he also, like, is big on needling guys for not playing enough hands, even if he is playing the same amount of hands as them.

There's a lot of stuff that I just don't like. And so finally, we were about 45 minutes from his supposed departure. And I didn't want him to leave because he was once again one of the big ways. Yeah, right. I need that money. I was up like five, six grand or whatever. He was up like one 10. And I was just like, hey, buddy, is it your plane?

And he's like, what do you mean? No, I don't have a plane. I have a charter. He's like, I have a chartered jet. And I'm like, okay, but it's, okay, fine. But you're the only person on it. And I was like, you and your security and camera crew. It's your, your people.

He's like, yeah, I'm like, well, then can't you leave whenever you want? Like, if it, you're, whether you, like, it's not going to leave without you. Keep saying, your plane. And he's like, no, well, then I need to do departure slot in a new landing slot. And then he's like, oh, sounds like, sounds like right. Is in the market for a plane, boys. Let's tell him how it works. And I'm like, no, I'm not saying that.

Dude, what I am saying is, dude, I'll send you the video. And people can watch it on our YouTube page. I mean, I did instigate it. I was like, no, I'm not in the market for a plane. I, however, am someone who speaks for a living. And I would just give you the advice in the future. say my flight unless it is in fact your plane right because when it's not your plane and you have to leave it a certain time and you keep saying my planes that of my flight it almost gives the impression

you're trying to sound like a big shot who has a plane when you don't have a fucking plane um and and so he was and so then he was like you know what i'm grounding my plane tonight I'm going to stay. And I just and I said mission accomplished. That's all I want. But nobody, everybody kind of always lets him get away with this shit. And I just wasn't into it. And so that a few minutes later, he couldn't deal with the fact that the table laughed at him.

And he was like, you know what? I think I should buy a plane. and without missing a beat I was like bro that's a great idea that way you have something to sell when the money runs out you have an asset and

and I referenced a different guy who similarly to him about a couple years ago burst onto the poker scene was kind of Mr. Big Shot everywhere and is nowhere to be seen these days because the money ran out. and now listen maybe this guy's got infinite money a lot who knows i don't know um but then right after that damonze he packed up his chips and left oh and left once again to his credit left winner in

the game but here's the other here's the addendum to the story so oh he also did a whole he did the whole thing to me about you know how many hands are you playing you're only playing aces, whatever, and I knew he was wrong. I was like, I guarantee you and I have played about the same amount of hands. We can bet anything you want. And he, of course, didn't bet it. Um,

but I also knew what the stats were. Um, but then yesterday, so then he, then he's like tweeting through it. He's all mad. He's the, but doesn't matter. Fine. It's, it's no problem. Um, but then yesterday, he posted the stats from the two nights,

the two games, and how he's the big winner and what everyone else wanted. And I saw my name on there, and I'm like, that's not, none of this is, it's not even close to accurate. And so I did a little research. This guy posted the final stats for the game for as if the game ended when he left. Yeah, when he left.

because and here is the you know the end of the story this game that was too big for me that I shouldn't have been playing in that I brought backup money to but I ended up buying in for $25,000. Antonio bought in for a quarter of a million. I bought in for 25. I cashed out for 162, which made it the biggest win of my life by a decent margin. Me, your guy Nick Wright, the biggest winner of the night on day two. And it was announced at the end of the broadcast that for future no gamble, no future episodes that I'm not playing in, I'll be broadcasting. I'm going to do it with my guy, Brent Hanks, which is so exciting. Yeah, so all of that is really great.

And I have a nice little poker rivalry. And if somebody sends this to Kiki, a word, just a friendly piece of advice, man. You would be stunned, man, how much of the poker world must be sick of your shit. because folks who I've never heard from got my number sent me the clips and thanked me for it so maybe maybe tone down the look at me louis stuff maybe i don't know to each their own but wildly successful weekend and as the producers put it because i was i was funny and I was targeted, but I was kind of a jerk. And you know what that entire plane bit culminated in?

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