The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What's Wright - Predicting NFL win totals, NBA Playoffs field + Florida-Houston reaction

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Nick Wright is back talking football after the release of the NFL preseason win totals. He breaks down every team’s total and gives his picks for overs and unders. Then, Nick recaps the National... Championship between Florida and Houston, as well as Duke’s collapse. Later, Nick recaps LeBron James, Luka Doncic, and the Los Angeles Lakers' win over the Oklahoma City Thunder from over the weekend and shares his predictions for the Western Conference as the NBA Playoffs approaches. Finally, as always, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 What's right with the Great Episode 317, fresh off a wild NCAA tournament championship game. And maybe wilder. Western Conference Playoff Bracket as we head into the final five days of the season and we have right now five teams all with 32 losses both of those topics shortly on the show and then as promised last week we will do our annual NFL over unders NFL win total show these these are not locked for us we will do our preseason gambling show post draft obviously it's post free agency late in training camp where we actually make these bets now the heads up for the gambling stuff we're doing shortly there might be a few that we like so much that we just say we're going to bet them right now if we say that we will mark those down and count those toward our season long ledger that we, you know, do the accounting for the very end of the football season.
Starting point is 00:03:31 But some of these are just leans in one direction or another. We'll do all of that. Before we get to that, welcome in DeMonsei. Demonsie, how are you? I know this is the single most banal topic of any phone call or even a podcast, but I am curious. What is the weather like in Los Angeles right now? That's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Pretty good, I'd say. It is still. It's April 8th. The Masters starts Thursday. It's 40-something degrees in New York. I am, it has gone on long enough that your mother came downstairs today and just said to me, I think I need to go away for a month. Not me, her.
Starting point is 00:04:18 She's like, I just, I just need go somewhere warm for a month. She said the weather is just sapping my. energy. So at some point, it's got to get warm in New York. At that point, it's man, usually April's like a top tier New York month, whatever, nobody cares. All right, here's what missed the cut. Alex Ovechkin breaks a record that I did not think was breakable, the Gretzky scoring record. Now, let me also say something else. I don't, I think it's very important on this show to not pretend to be an expert on everything. and get themselves in trouble.
Starting point is 00:04:59 You pretend to be an expert on everything. You might all of a sudden find yourself talking LeBron in the morning, Ovechkin in the afternoons, and the Gaza Strip at night. No one would do that and then seriously say they're going to run for president and then be wrong about all three. I try not to, you know, pretend that I know, make some tariff stuff in there as well. Be an expert on everything. But I'm a diehard sports fan and I'm enough of a diehard sports fan to know,
Starting point is 00:05:27 Gretzky is the only athlete I've ever seen that if you go to his Wikipedia page, even though the internet is endless and a page can just scroll forever and you're like, hey, what records does Wayne Gretzky have? You have to go to a separate Wikipedia page where it's like actually all of Wayne Gretzky's records are here. So I just assumed this was unbreakable. And then when I heard Ovechkin broke it or when I obviously, I knew he was going to break it. the last month or so it's been in the news. And I just said, again, folks can say bad sports fan, Nick, for not knowing this. I assumed Ovechkin must be like a Bobby Orr style guy that played until his mid-40s.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And then I saw Alex Ovechkin after he broke the record. And I was like, oh, confirmed, this guy played until his late 40s. Turns out Alex Ovechkin is 39 years old. That is a hard 39 for Alex Ovechkin. He's younger than me. Now, and incredibly wealthy. Say it again. No, it's not just the, it's not just the gray.
Starting point is 00:06:33 It just, and maybe it's the, you know, the, the, that coming up, you know, in Russia is tough. I don't know, man, but Alex Olvechkin, for a guy that rich and that successful, you know, that's a hard 39, but unbelievable. He breaks Gretzky's record. Everyone thought it was unbreakable. Here's something almost as unbelievable. Gino Oriima de Manzai has coached in 13 national. championship games that in and of itself is remarkable he's 12 and 1 in those games 12 and 1 in the national championship games i'm so happy for page i i think she you know that her recruiting class the top 5
Starting point is 00:07:14 for her high school class page angel katelyn oh the bink brink Cameron brink Yes, and then Cardosa. Those five. All of them champions, oddly, except for Caitlin. And Paige had to stick around a year longer because she blew out her knee. She got her title. Hopefully, Juju can have the same trajectory. Gets delayed because you blew out the knee, goes to win the title.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And then the other big game this weekend that didn't miss the cup. We'll do it quickly. and then we'll get to it more in the West Playoff Push segment was the Lakers dog walking the Thunder. And my, what, what's your little, what, what, Thunder are done with their season? They weren't in that game. I mean, they played all their guys.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah. And the, I said on the TV show Friday that the perfect weekend for the Lakers was beating the Thunder, I'm sorry, beating the Pelicans, beating the Thunder, and then sitting everyone Tuesday and when they play the thunder again tonight. And I don't know if you've seen the point spread in that game,
Starting point is 00:08:34 but it's OKC minus 15 because Vegas thinks that's exactly what the Lakers are going to do. And basically denying the thunder the opportunity for any get back, leaving in the back of their head, wait a minute. Luca knocked this out of the playoffs last year. They just crushed us this year, Luca's team. We still have no one to guard him. That to me is absolutely ideal, particularly when the other reason I said they should rest guys
Starting point is 00:09:12 is they play, they being the Lakers, play the Mabs tomorrow. So the Lakers since Saturday will have played the Thunder, the Thunder again, and then the Mabs. the Mavs have not played since Saturday. So the Lakers, it would be their third game in four nights. The Mavs would be their first game in four nights.
Starting point is 00:09:33 So now they're letting their guys rest and be ready for that game knowing, and again, more on this in the Western German playoff bracket stuff, if the Lakers go two and two in their final four, they lock up the three seat. If we just chalk tonight up as a loss, what it means is Mavs, Rockets, Tanking Blazers final game of the year, if you win two of those games, you lock up the three seed, which is gold for the Western Conference. My other takeaway for Thunder Lakers before we get to last night's championship game, the Thunder more so than any team in the Western Conference have so much depth defensively. and even the thunder found themselves in a spot where it's like, hold on, if my best wing defender is on Luca and my second best wing defender is on LeBron,
Starting point is 00:10:35 then who the hell is guarding Austin Reeves? And when you look at the Western Conference playoffs and you look across every team the Lakers could play and say power rank their wing defenders. All of these teams have at least one really good one. A couple have two pretty good ones. Only the Thunder have three really good ones. Everyone else, Austin Reeves, is just going to be feasting on a mediocre or bad defensive defense.
Starting point is 00:11:16 player. And you, the Rockets have two awesome ones in Amen Thompson and Dylan Brooks, but who's the third? And so that's going to be a sneaky, huge edge for, um, the, the Lakers in any series. As far as I am not going to act as if because of that game, oh, there's, you know, systemic issues with the Thunder. Thunder are going to win 67 games. They're awesome. The concerns, however, would be as follows. The youth is just never seen a team this young make the finals much less winning. Everyone has said that. Is your second best guy good enough?
Starting point is 00:12:02 That's a Jalen Williams Chet Holmgren question. We'll see. How will the playoff whistle impact Shea? He seemed to get it this weekend against the Rockets and the Lakers, and it impacted him a bit. And then this is the last piece of it that I have not heard enough people make the point of when it comes to Handicapping the Thunder for this championship one of the reasons the Thunder have this insane point differential is they are They are legit 12 quality NBA players deep and so even when they have guys out and
Starting point is 00:12:39 Certainly when they go to their bench their bench is so much better than the other team's bench in the playoffs How good your 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th guys are is mostly irrelevant. Because you're really just playing 7 or 8 guys. So will that edge be muted a bit? Those are all legitimate questions. Remember, like, rate, subscribe, review. We're just this close to 200,000 on YouTube. That would be awesome to get there during, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:12 maybe the play in of the NBA playoffs, certainly in the first round. and you can watch us live on YouTube. We'll also, by the way, be doing these emergency kind of reaction shows throughout the NBA playoffs. You can get those not just on YouTube where we'd love for you to like, rate, subscribe, and review. It helps us a ton, but also on iTunes, Spotify, everything. But now to the championship game last night, DeMonte, I was pulling for Houston because of our ties to Houston. I also like Kelvin Sampson. Tell us what happened.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Well, yeah, I mean, Houston went from winning that crazy one against Duke on Saturday. I mean, I've been pulling it for Houston, but that rep should be investigated from that game on Saturday. Okay. But, yeah, so they lost the crazy one to Florida yesterday off of the potential double dribble or whatever. What are your thoughts on the tournament and how it ended? I mean, I have a lot of thoughts here. Houston did not get a shot up. not on the final possession on their final four possessions they didn't hit the rim seemingly
Starting point is 00:14:29 for the last two minutes of that game and somebody had a tweet that I wish I could give him credit because I thought it was really funny and actually pretty kind of profound almost talking about Houston style because they're just such a ferocious lintless, tough defensive team where they said, I imagine Houston's practices are just three hours of suicides and punching each other in the face. And that kind of is how they played. But there's downside to that, which is they never,
Starting point is 00:15:08 you never felt like they were against a great team going to be able to definitively put them away. had opportunities against Florida to put them away when that defense was just giving Florida fits, and Florida's, you know, stuck around just like Houston did against Duke, just long enough to where you see the college kids tighten up. And Houston's kids tightened up. Walter Clayton Jr., you know, had a great final flourish in this game after, you know, with five minutes left in the game.
Starting point is 00:15:48 this game, it looked like this was going to be the first game in two years. He had a 61 game streak of hitting a three. He didn't hit one until late in the game. He obviously didn't score his first basket until late, late in the first half, or was it early second half? I don't even remember. But Florida was able to stick around and then steal it at the end. Not getting a shot off in that spot is just the stuff of absolute nightmares for a coach. But they didn't get a shot off Like, it was, if you just look at what Houston did over the final two minutes, because one of the possessions, they did get a shot up, it was essentially an airballed layup. They were getting no good looks.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And when you go to the waning moments of the game, after L.J. Crier made, missed a layup and then tipped in his own miss with 2.30 left. here were Houston's possessions made a free throw then missed a free throw badly missed a three offensive rebound miss jumper offensive rebound turnover turnover
Starting point is 00:17:07 turnover turnover turnover turnover to not get a shot on the rim in the final two minutes of the, or 90 seconds of the game is just so crushing and you feel so sick for Kelvin Samson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But my, I mean, because again, he's almost 70. Say it again? The turnover before that. Oh, yeah. No, I'm talking about the coach. You're talking about L.J. Pryor. L.J. Crier had the back-to-back turnovers
Starting point is 00:17:45 and then Emmanuel Sharp had the back-to-back turnover is late. I mean, but for Kelvin, who was a great coach, got a show cause penalty and got run out of college basketball for a while, came back. And what he's done at Houston is remarkable. Since he's been there, it's, our buddy, our buddy's probably too strong, but the kid we root for, Quentin Grimes, you know, was there. and they were a legitimate contender since he's been there.
Starting point is 00:18:20 So Calvin Sampson took over a mediocre team. His first year, they're 13 and 19. His next two years they're in the NIT. And then since then, this is what they've done. 27 wins, and they won a tournament game. 33 wins and get popped in the sweet 16. Then COVID year. then 28 wins final four 32 wins elite 8
Starting point is 00:18:47 33 wins sweet 16 32 wins sweet 16 35 wins lose the championship game by 2 and you know you you hope he has another great shot you don't know if he's going to have another great shot he turned 70 next season. He'll keep coaching. But man, oh man. As much as they stole one from Duke,
Starting point is 00:19:23 they absolutely let one get away. And so I had two recurring thoughts in that game. One was Duke had to be watching this game like, you got to be fucking kidding me. Like, we should be in this game. And, you know, they, they, their collapse was different than Houston. I know you put it on, you, you hated the rep for the call. But like, it definitely didn't.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I mean, it's a bad call. That call. That's a bad call. College reps are bad. And the review process in college basketball is truly, truly awful. And what nobody ever acknowledges when they're like, oh, they have to get it right. And, oh, we've got it. The tenths of a second could matter.
Starting point is 00:20:07 and I bring up every time. You know what also matters? Fatigue. And this idea that being the better conditioned team, you should lose all edge from that in the final two minutes of these games because every out of bounds call, there's going to be a one to four minute break to review it. I hate it so much.
Starting point is 00:20:33 But set that aside. My other takeaway from really, this entire tournament, but certainly the final four. We had four number one seats. We had by Kinpom rankings, four of the best college basketball teams of the last decade, all playing. And despite that, you've never seen a better illustration for the glaring and massive gap between the talent and skill level, between guys who are good enough to be starters and big-time players
Starting point is 00:21:17 for the best college basketball teams in the country and guys who are good enough to play in the NBA. Like college basketball in the modern era where guys don't stick around typically for that long, the best players never do. do and teams don't stick together. The gap between that and the skill and talent and ability it takes to play in the NBA is the widest it's ever been.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And it's why a guy like Walter Clayton Jr., who is going to be, goes into the tournament, a fringe first round pick can just dominate and when most outstanding player. like it is I know there are some people particularly where I'm from in the Midwest that swear and I always thought
Starting point is 00:22:17 this was an odd stance to hold love college basketball hate the NBA now I'm not saying you have to like the NBA more than college basketball they're again they're different sports teach their own
Starting point is 00:22:30 but that was all always felt to me a more in a little racially charged opinion, the love college basketball, hate the NBA take, because you simply never hear that in college football. Certainly have people that like college football more than the NFL. But I've never once met a single person who's like,
Starting point is 00:22:52 I love college football, can't stand the NFL. But you do hear that sometimes in college basketball, at least where I grew up used to all the time. And I always thought that was a little quizzical. but they're just so vastly different products. Throughout this tournament, when guys made open shots, you were impressed. In the NBA, if a guy misses an open shot, you are shocked.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And this game being stuck in the 40s late into the second half, just a vivid reminder of how incredible, incredibly difficult it is for the guys who actually can make it to the league. But congrats of Florida, Walter Clayton Jr. going into this year, DeMonze, on most mock drafts, was not even a second rounder. Going into this tournament in most mock drafts was a fringe first second rounder. And now he's probably going to be a late lottery pick. He's a little older.
Starting point is 00:24:00 He's not that athletic. I think so. Man, oh man. Say it again. Late lottery pick. It's awesome. It's great. What he has working against him is he doesn't have the great athleticism and he played for five years.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And so, or four years. So people are always, you know, 22, 23, how high is the ceiling? But I wonder if he could have a Dalton Connect style draft day where when he gets drafted by a decent. team or a good team and people are like, oh man, he can maybe help you immediately, even if he doesn't have like all-star potential. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
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Starting point is 00:27:23 Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's go to the NBA, we get to our NFL over on this. So things are going to come down to the wire on the west side. Everyone from the 3 to 8 seat are separated by max of two games. And then everybody from the 4 to 8 are basically tied in losses. So how do you think it's going to go?
Starting point is 00:27:48 So first of all, credit to the Rockets for removing themselves from this group. The Rockets are, I thought the Rockets were about. gets punched in the face by the schedule. Because, and I think we talked about it last week, their final five games were Thunder, Warriors, and they played those two already and won them. And then it goes Clippers, Lakers, Nuggets. But it doesn't matter now.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Because, and this actually could work in the Lakers' face. I don't know what the Rockets will do, but the Rockets just need to either win one or have the Lakers lose one and they lock up the two seat So because the Lakers max out at 52 wins the Rockets are already at 52 wins So if the Lakers so here's why I say this could work out in the Lakers favor if the Lakers lose tonight to the Thunder Which they will the Rockets lock the two seed no matter what will that make the Rockets in game 81 against the Lakers rest some people? I don't know. Now maybe they would feel like they don't need to,
Starting point is 00:29:13 but set that aside. Credit to the Rockets for handling their business. Now to the 3 through 8, and we can throw it on the screen. The Lakers, the reason that Lakers two-game lead is actually a three-game lead is this. They have the tiebreaker
Starting point is 00:29:31 over literally, literally every single team on the screen there. Nuggets are the four, Clippers are the five, Warriors are the Six, Timberolds are the seven, Grizzlies are the eight, Lakers 48 and 30, Nuggets, 47, and 32, and then Clippers, Warriors, Timberls, Grizzlies, all 46 and 32. The Lakers have the tiebreaker with every one of those teams. That is a symptom of the fact in one of the craziest stats of the season. the Oklahoma City Thunder this year against the Western Conference are 35 and 13.
Starting point is 00:30:08 The Los Angeles Lakers against the Western Conference are 34 and 14. So why are the Thunder going to win 67 and the Lakers are right now sitting at 48? Well, the Thunder are 29 and 1 against the East and the Lakers are 14 and 16 against the East. and the Lakers are they are 14 and 16 against the east so I mean that's the difference in the standings but that is given the Lakers the tiebreaker over everyone so I think it's going to go like this
Starting point is 00:30:39 the Lakers lose tonight they beat Dallas and then maybe they beat Houston if they don't beat Houston they certainly beat Portland and they are the three and now the interesting piece of it Denver, which is falling apart, has not recovered from the Westbrook debacle. Joker can just put up 45, 15, and 15 every night.
Starting point is 00:31:06 It doesn't matter. And I don't know if you heard what Michael Malone said the other day when Michael Malone said, yeah, Jamal Murray, we hope he's ready for the playoffs. That's concerning. I think Denver is going to lose to Memphis. Let's assume they beat Houston because that'll be game 82 for Houston, and Houston likely is not going to, you know, be playing their people. Whether or not Denver falls to the play end will likely be determined by how they do against Sacramento in Denver when they play on, do they play tonight or Wednesday?
Starting point is 00:31:53 I should have had that up in front of. me, I apologize. Denver plays tomorrow when they play Sacramento tomorrow. The Clippers, again, so much of this is predicated by what the Rockets do as far as resting guys. Because the Clippers play the Spurs tonight. So the Clippers will win tonight. And then the Clippers play Houston next. But the question is, is Houston assuming the Lakers lose tonight going to be playing
Starting point is 00:32:28 their guys. If they are, then that should be a great game. The Clippers, after that, are at Sacramento at Golden State. Golden State has an absolute three consecutive layups. At Phoenix, I saw Phoenix in person at the Garden Friday night. They are cooked. So, Golden State will beat Phoenix. Then the spurs who don't want to win, then the Blazers. So Golden State is going to be 49 and 32 going into the final game against the Clippers, which the Clippers are going to need to win, potentially to avoid the play in, potentially for seating. So Warriors Clippers, Game 82, massive, right? The Grizzlies are at Milwaukee, at Memphis, and then,
Starting point is 00:33:28 home for Brooklyn and Utah. So Minnesota, Brooklyn and Utah are auto wins. Those teams are not trying. If they beat Milwaukee tonight, then Minnesota has a real chance of not only climbing out of the play in, but climbing all the way to the 4-5 line. And then Memphis, it likely comes. they're at Charlotte, that's a win. Home for Minnesota, at Denver,
Starting point is 00:34:03 home for Dallas. So let's do it like this. What are the guaranteed victories on team's schedule? For the Lakers, just won. Game 82 against Portland. The Lakers will then need to win one other game to lock up the three.
Starting point is 00:34:24 OKC, Dallas, Houston. They're going to lose OKCs. they've beat Dallas or Houston. For Denver, zero guaranteed victory. Sacramento, Memphis, Houston, so no guaranteed victories. For the Clippers,
Starting point is 00:34:41 the Clippers put them at 47 wins. They have the Spurs game. Then Houston, Sacramento, Golden State. For Golden State, three guaranteed victories. Phoenix, Spurs, Portland, and then that Clippers. game. For Minnesota, so put Golden State at 49 wins. I'm going to do this in the dock so I can
Starting point is 00:35:05 just see it. Denver, 47 with three questions. The Clippers, 47 with three questions as far as the games. The Warriors, 49. One question game. Minnesota. Milwaukee at Memphis tough home for Brooklyn and Utah they're 48 with two questions and then Memphis at Charlotte three questions yeah for exactly 47 so the games that are going to determine the Western Conference playoff bracket is all of Denver's games against Sacramento Memphis and Houston the Clippers games against Houston, Sacramento, and Golden State. For the Golden State, that one game against the Clippers. And for Minnesota, their games at Milwaukee and at Memphis.
Starting point is 00:36:14 That's it. And so, right now, I would think the most likely seating is as follows. One Oklahoma City locked, two Houston essentially locked, three lakes, close to essentially locked. Four Golden State. Five, Minnesota. Six, the Clippers. Lakers, Clippers Round won't be fun.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Seven, Denver, eight Memphis. That's how I think it's going to fall out. Is that ideal for you? Are there any matchups that you're trying to avoid? The ideal for the Lakers. Well, and by the way, the 7-8, obviously, then there's a play-in situation. The ideal for the Lakers, everybody wants Memphis.
Starting point is 00:37:17 The ideal for the Lakers is Memphis getting to the three-line. I don't think that's happening. I would, would I rather play Minnesota or would I rather play the Clippers? I would rather play, I know, Clippers been really tough since Kauai came back. Or since Kauai's been playing like this. I'd probably rather play Minnesota. Now, later in the playoffs, I'd take my chances with, sadly, Kauai not holding up, but in round one with him playing like this, they're dangerous.
Starting point is 00:37:55 The thing is everybody's dangerous, but if you're the Lakers, you can't worry about round one. If it were to play out to where, you are on the opposite side of the bracket of a okay C and round two looks like it's golden state okay C you sign up for that if you know if you if you're the lakers and you're only going to have to beat one of golden state or Oklahoma City and they have to they play each other in a war in round two while with respect you're probably playing the rockets that is the ideal situation and I think it's what they've set themselves up I think the Rockets are going to be dangerous in the playoffs. I know you say they're young and all that.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I think they have a great coach. Defense wins championships. That's fair. And they have a great coach. 100%. Dylan Brooks is going to see LeBron in a playoff series and once again be like, it's Dylan Brooks, son. And I don't trust Jalen Green.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Now, A.M. Thompson is a monster. as a young player. And Shingoon's great. Shingun's great. But I, again, the West is brutal. None of these are easy.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Right. But it's, you know, it is. I'm not saying like they can win. Okay, I know I said defense wins championships, but I think they can mess somebody's road up.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I think, knock a team out early. But you, but you're kind of treating them to Monzae like they're not the two seed. They're like true. The two seed. Playing to their seed means they're in the conference finals. I don't see that happening.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Fear. Like now, now listen, maybe they, maybe somebody clips the Lakers and they beat them or maybe they can beat the Lakers. But I, I think Houston, Houston has earned enough for me to where at this point, I will almost assuredly be picking them in their round one series. I don't know, you know what, I say that. I don't know if I'd pick them against Minnesota. I think Minnesota could be tough. Yeah, I could see going to seven. Yeah, no, they could win.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I just, but I think I'd probably pick Minnesota. This is always fun. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas, we invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:40:33 We just contributed to a podcast. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range. of podcasts around there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say,
Starting point is 00:41:05 Hey, Jonas. and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
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Starting point is 00:43:05 Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So we are going to go division by division. Now, I am not, I will address all 32 teams win totals, but there's what I, I've already looked at this obviously quite a bit. Some of these, I'm just like, oh, okay, that line is right. Like I, you know, usually Vegas is pretty good at these. And anybody that's going to give you at this point in the year a lean on all 32. That's too much for me. Shout out, by the way, double shoutouts actually.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Shout out to Zach Lowe for bringing his podcast back, the Zach Lowe show, signed on with Bill Simmons and the ringer. And shout out to Bill, who last year in his preseason over under's podcast went 27 and 5 with preseason. season win totals, which is just remarkable. So double shoutouts to those guys. All right. This is the way too early over under. Start with the AFC East. We'll do each division, basically from highest projected win total to lowest.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Demandze, give me each team, and then I'll tell you if I have a lien or not. First, we've got the Buffalo Bills. They're over under set at 11.5. Over under set 11.5 heavy juice, minus 1.1. 45 on the over. And this to me is that number is just right. And I'll stay away from it. Like the, if I had to pick one, I would go over.
Starting point is 00:44:42 However, minus 1.45 is too much. And I mean, they're smart. People expect the bills at this point with healthy Josh Allen. You're going to win double digit games. It'd be a hard under to go with. But I'll stay away from that. Next. You got the dolphins over under at eight and a half.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And with a little bit of juice on the under, minus 1.30, that is, to me, a exactly right line. I think the Dolphins will win eight or nine games. That is perfect. Last year, by the way, the preseason total was 10.5. But I am, that to me is a stay away. Next one. We got the Patriots. They're over under is eight and a half.
Starting point is 00:45:27 All right. So this is juice to the under. as it should be. It's minus 140 to the under. This is, in my opinion, an outrageous total. So now I should note, and I should have done this earlier on. You always have to look at what divisions, each division's playing. So everyone has their three strength of schedule games a year.
Starting point is 00:45:58 But then you also play your own. division and then what are the other divisions you play for the a fc east they draw one of the toughest divisions in the afc north and probably the weakest division in the nfc south so that to me you basically that's a wash and so the reason i'm saying this is whenever you're doing these preseason win totals check and see what divisions the other uh You know, that those teams are playing and kind of power rank the divisions in your own head and then figure out, you know, are they, do they get two of the easier ones, two of the harder ones? Or is it like this where you get one tough one in the AFC North, one easy one in the MC South, and it evens out? So what the Patriots have going for them is the last place schedule, they're extra.
Starting point is 00:47:00 game. Pretty bad. Well, maybe. Inside of the bills. But here's the thing. They're really bad. And they, I, I just don't know that they have done enough to have a competent offense. They upgraded it, coach.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Drake May should be better in year two. That offensive line will still be a disaster. They, for the third consecutive year, maybe fourth, do not have a single, draftable fantasy football skill player. There is not a single wide receiver running back or tight end on that team that you would want on your fantasy football team. I don't think Stefan Diggs is going to have a big impact. I think the Patriots would be thrilled to win eight games.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I'm sorry, to win six games. The fact that this team could win eight games and the underhits, is outrageous. I love the under for the New England Patriots. I will take under 8.5 and that's a bet we can put on my season long.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I think that thing drops to 7.5 before the year, especially when the draft plays out and they aren't able to get Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, not that a rookie should really move a win total. I will take under for the Patriots. Last AFC's team, DeMonse.
Starting point is 00:48:28 We got the Jets. their over under is five and a half. Yeah, I will take the over here. So they got so much better in, from a culture, stability, maturity standpoint in the coaching staff, they are not going to be under the spotlight like they were last year. I think that it will be refreshing for that team to not have the, for everyone on that team who spent their whole career with the Jets, every year of their career,
Starting point is 00:49:13 the only story, the only thing people were focused on was the quarterback. Whether it was Zach Wilson going to get it together, Aaron Rogers coming to save us. Aaron Rogers Tours Achilles. Aaron Rogers last year. This year, it's just going to be about Aaron Glenn, trying to set a culture, running the damn ball, playing good defense.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I think that they won five games last year, and I think this year they should be better, not necessarily better at quarterback, but not worse at quarterback. and better a little bit better everywhere else and not have the energy constantly sucked out of the room. And I think staying out of the spotlight because they are not going to be a disgust team will be good for them. I could absolutely see Aaron Glenn getting there. That team finding its way to seven wins.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I like the Jets over. So for the AFC East, the bills I am staying away from, the dolphins I am staying away from, the dolphins I am staying away from. I am on the Patriots under and I am on the Jets over. Let's go DeMonse to the AFC North. We got the Ravens at their over-unders, 11.5. This is a tentative over for Baltimore. Now, I would not bet the under on any year you have a healthy Lamar Jackson. He's an all-time regular season player and just guarantees you if he's healthy,
Starting point is 00:50:51 double-digit wins. The reason I'm saying tentative is not because I might go under, but I'm not sure if that's a bet I'll actually make. But I do, it does feel like last year was kind of a worst-case scenario, regular season for them, and they still won 12 games. And so that to me is, I lean over. You feel like they're always. going to be well coached.
Starting point is 00:51:23 The defense came around by the end of last year. Lamar is unbelievable. And you anticipate that they can win 12, 13 games almost every season. The juice is dead even essentially on the over or the under. The Lamar injury stuff does worry you a bit. So I would just want to see him get through the preseason and off season, everything totally healthy. I also, before I make any bet on the Ravens, De Manzay,
Starting point is 00:51:55 I have to make sure that health and human services, if that department still exists, isn't projecting like a bad cold and flu season because that absolutely can cost the Ravens a game because Lamar has the immune system of a small Victorian child, as a funny tweet said once. I mean, we're going to go there. Yeah, well, of course.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And so, but I lean over for Baltimore. Next. bangles over under nine and a half this number's just right i would stay away from it the juice is heavily heavily on the over and at minus 150 and i don't know why we would think they're going to be a much different team than last year a great offense a bad defense scored a ton of points lose a lot of games they shouldn't because the defense is bad. And so I, that to me is a stayaway. Next team, DeMose.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Oh, we got the Steelers. There are over, under's eight and a half. I'll take the under. To me, this is, now, that means I'm betting Tomlin to not continue as well. You know what? That's not true. I could win this bet and have Tomlin's record extend. because it's never had a losing season.
Starting point is 00:53:25 So 8, 8 and 1 keeps that thing going. Not that because the tie doesn't count as half a win. Sorry, drop some. Tie doesn't count as half a win when it comes to this. But I will go under because one of two things is going to happen to Monseille. One of three things, pardon me. Either Aaron Rogers is not going there. and they are starting Mason Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Or Aaron Rogers is not going there, and they are starting rookie either Shador Sanders or Jackson Dart. Or Aaron Rogers is going to announce tomorrow on McAfee or sometime in a month he is going there and bring that entire circus with him. And I think nothing would be more poetic than us finding out what's the only thing? that can end Mike Tomlin streak of above 500 or better years. And the answer is bringing in 42-year-old diva Aaron Rogers. So I will go under for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now remember last year, I was heavy on them missing the playoffs and going under and all of that. And they cost me a ton of futures.
Starting point is 00:54:42 So I could be wrong. But I will go under on Aaron Rogers or the Steelers without Aaron Rogers. either way. I think it's time for a bit of a reset in Pittsburgh. I'll go under there. Next. All right. You got the Browns.
Starting point is 00:54:57 They're over under is four and a half. I mean, we don't know who's going to be playing quarterback for them. We don't know what they're doing in the draft. That number is just really a slap in their face of number that low. Four and a half, you just don't see that very often. I'm going to stay away. I can't bet under four and a half, but I also, Obviously, I'm not going to bet on the Cleveland Browns.
Starting point is 00:55:23 So, thus far through two divisions, I lean Patriot, or I'm heavy on Patriots under. I like the Jets over. I lean Steelers or Ravens over and I like the Steelers under. Let's go to the AFC cell. Oh, we got the Texans. They're over under is set at nine and a half. That's just right.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I worry about their, injuries at wide receiver. You know, they, well, Nico is a guy who's an excellent player. He's dealt with injuries in his career. Obviously, Tankdale's going to be out all year. They didn't bring back digs. They traded away Tunsel. So you worry, they just changed offensive coordinators.
Starting point is 00:56:06 But the defense should be really good. And D'Amico's excellent. And C.J's really good. So it feels like a nine or ten win team. I'll stay away from it. Next. We got the Colts. They're over under seven and a half.
Starting point is 00:56:17 You know what? I don't have a ton of cults opinions this year. I don't really want to spend a lot of time thinking about the cults. I'm not that interested in the cult seven and a half sounds right. We'll stay away from it. You don't have to bet everything. Shends out to Jordan Libman. To who?
Starting point is 00:56:33 My co-worker. He's a big fan of the cults and he always says that everybody says the cults are just like nobody. He's correct. Yeah. Yeah, there's there. I mean, basically that's this whole division. Both of the Souths. just get totally, you know what I mean, disregard.
Starting point is 00:56:52 But next. Oh, we got the Jags. They're over under seven and a half. I'm back, baby. Jags. All right. Over. Better head, new head coach.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Trevor Healthy. Brian Thomas Jr. in year two. All of these things. I think the right ways. Definitely go. over here, but if they finish with less than that, what happens with Trevor Lawrence after this season? It's not great. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah. No, no, no. Then people start, they start talking about, you know, how can we get out of the contract, like all that stuff? It's not great, which is why it's not going to happen. Trevor Lawrence is returned to glory this season. He's, listen, I know people don't, you know, are sick of me saying this, but it is true. Trevor Lawrence He's just 25, man
Starting point is 00:57:50 25 years old He's the same age as Bo Knicks basically Like I He had a brutal rookie year His second year Led them to win the division And a great playoff comeback His third year
Starting point is 00:58:07 They were eight and three Until he suffered injuries To three different parts of his body in three consecutive weeks and had to miss time and their season fell apart. And last year, season from hell, I'm not quitting you, Trevor, over Jags, put it in pen. I'm betting that one. They are getting back in the playoff mix. That's all I'm saying, just in the playoff mix.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And Liam Cohen, I don't care you said Duval weird. You got the best out of Baker? I like you. I am with the Jacksonville Jaguars over seven and a half. Next. With you there. You got the Titans. They're over,
Starting point is 00:58:47 under is five and a half. See, with plus 125 on the under, and they're going to be starting a rookie quarterback from day one. Give me the under. Like, give me the under with Cam Ward, even if he's good.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I think that there's going to be a lot of growing pains. I don't know that I trust Brian Callahan. It's, and I'm getting. plus money on it like now this one I will admit I am going to bet this but I am going to wait to bet this because since it's minus 150 on the over all these lines obviously by the way courtesy of our friends at draft Kings I should have been saying that earlier plus 125 on the under this might move to six and a half and I love
Starting point is 00:59:40 it at six and a half I like it a lot at five and a half I will bet this at some point, just not this moment. But starting a rookie quarterback, shaky head coach. And, oh, by the way, lines and odd subject to change, I need to tell you guys, but you guys all know that. You're if the Titans can get six wins, Cam Ward. I mean, they can. I mean, they can. He was going to go to the Super Bowl last year. He's a rookie quarterback. Yeah, but the, so a couple things. The Bears were coming off a seven-win season, not three and 14. I was wrong about the Bears coach. The Bears ended up having a dupus coach. And Caleb's way, way, way, way, way better than King Ward.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, it's not even close. All right. Finish it off on the AFC West. So we got the Chiefs. They're overrunners 11 and a half. This is insulting. Insulting is the highest wind total. Projected wind total. Yeah, it should be 12. They won 17 games last year. They won 15 in the regular season. And everyone told me they weren't that good. they they they they they they they went 15 and one last year in games my homes plagues they sat out week 17 the oh i haven't been giving you guys the division stuff darn it here's the other thing that i really like for the whole a fc west they're division games a if they get all four
Starting point is 01:01:07 teams in the AFC South, awesome. And they get the NFC East, which is only as, in my opinion, one great team in the Eagles. Now, obviously, the chief strength of schedule games are brutal. Their strength of schedule, so they get their own division, plus the AFC South and the AFC East, and then the strength of schedule games are Baltimore, Buffalo, Detroit. So that's, the strength of schedule is, you know, outrageous. but the chiefs have games against Texans, Colts, Jags, Titans, and then four more games against, or two more games, I should say,
Starting point is 01:01:50 Cowboys Giants, there's six games. They win, they go five and one in the division every year. There's your 11 games. And so then let's say they only go four and two in the division this year. So now you're at 10. That would mean of the following games, Detroit, Baltimore, Buffalo, Philly, Washington. He's got to win two of them.
Starting point is 01:02:23 And so I, the betting the Chiefs over every year since Malmes has been there, hell, since Andy's been there, but it's been super profitable. Since Malm's been there, they've hit it six of six. seven years. The only year they didn't hit it was two years ago, and they made up for that by winning the Super Bowl. So, yeah, I'm not, that's an over. The Chiefs face the Eagles next year, and it's going to be in Kansas City. When in the season would you want to see that game? When would you want that? Great question. First game of the season. No, because... Just like they did the Ravens. No, because the Chiefs don't get to...
Starting point is 01:03:10 well first of all that can't happen because the eagles are the defending champs they get to host the you know season opener on thursday so it can't be the first game of the year here's what i don't care when it is i just want both teams to be on regular rest i don't want one team to be coming off a weird schedule i you know what the whatever it is there are some rumors of the the the that the the that the the Chiefs could start the year in Brazil. But I, so I don't know. But just, I just want both teams on regular rest. All right. By the way, you know what, let's do this. Before we get to the rest of the AFC West, I want to talk to you guys about our friends at Draft Kings.
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Starting point is 01:06:42 We have some big news. What's the news, news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a...
Starting point is 01:06:52 We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
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Starting point is 01:09:33 We just did the Chiefs over 11 and a half. Give me the last feel. We got the Chargers. They're over and there's nine and a half. So, and I'm going to lump the Broncos in with them as well. They're also at nine and a half. To me, both of these are stayaways. I think both of these are going to be very trendy vets.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I think a lot of people are going to like either or, both of these teams to hit double-digit wins. They both hit it last year. They both made the playoffs last year. I, now they have the same benefit the Chiefs have, which is the NFC South and the NFC East. But I think people are a little too high on the Chargers who I don't think are going to have the turnover numbers they had last year.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And I think people are a little too high on Bo Nix. Now, again, if I thought people were, way, way off, I'd be saying go under. But I think both those teams are going to be hovering around at the end of the year, 8, 9, 10 wins. So I would stay away. And then that gives us the Raiders to Monzae. And they're over under 6 and a half.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I love the over for the Las Vegas Raiders. I know that probably shocks people. But when you combine the following things, they had a bottom three coach last year. they replace him with the top 10 coach and Pete Carroll. They had a bottom three quarterback situation. They replace him with top 12 quarterback and Gino Smith. They have a last play schedule.
Starting point is 01:11:16 They are going to be able to draft an impact player at number six. Pete, I think maybe Ashton Genty. Pete Carroll wants to win right now. Everyone is going to be all over. the Broncos or the Chargers. I think it's the Raiders that could finish second in the AFC West. I think Pete Carroll has the Raiders fighting for the final wild card spot in the AFC in year one. I like the Raiders over six and a half.
Starting point is 01:11:51 So my AFC bets that I like, Patriots under eight and a half, Jets over five and a half. Steelers under 8 and a half, Ravens over 11 and a half. Jags over 7 and a half, Titans under 5 and a half, Chiefs over 11 and a half, and the Las Vegas Raiders under 6.5. In the least surprising news ever, DeMonse, I went way too long and we're going to do the NFC on Thursday. So I don't want to rush through the NFC.
Starting point is 01:12:31 But you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, we have a ton more to go. So I liked how we did this. Do some NBA news and everything Thursday to start the show, then do the over-unders for the second half of the show. I thought that worked well. And so, AFC, we just gave them to you.
Starting point is 01:12:53 NFC, we will do on Thursday. Uh, let's ask some listener questions. De Manze, you have a question. Well, yeah, I mean, I saw on a Twitter that they were bringing back Dyerwolves. Um, I hit Daniel up about this and said it should go somewhere else in the show. It was really bad take. But I think it's, uh, what's going on? I don't know what's the take.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Let me hear your take. I think that's insane that they're, that they're messing with stuff like that. I don't know what reason we would have for it unless it's, like beneficial for the I don't know so are you it's not a bad it's not a bad take that's first of all
Starting point is 01:13:35 second of all hand up not afraid to admit things I thought dire wolves were always make believe I didn't know that was a thing I knew they were in Game of Thrones but I thought they were make believe like dragons like I thought it was
Starting point is 01:13:52 just something from fantasy I didn't know like I obviously knew, well, that's a separate discussion. There is did dragons ever exist is not as dumb of a question as some people think. I will say that, but set that aside. I obviously knew
Starting point is 01:14:13 like, you know, like woolly mammoths existed and the Megalodon existed. I didn't know that horse-sized wolves existed. I thought that was purely from Game of Thrones. So I know that this is a little Jurassic Park-ish
Starting point is 01:14:33 and that didn't go well. But I think it would be sick, man, if we could reanimate some of the giant animal life from
Starting point is 01:14:49 world history and put it on an island somewhere and like see it. And like see it. As long as they can't fly. Man. As long as they can't fly and can't swim,
Starting point is 01:15:03 I think I'd be, I'd love to see a dire wolf. I think that'd be awesome. I also didn't know they existed. I get it's a little scared. I understand me. And I'm not necessarily for the dinosaurs coming back. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:15:16 I mean, I just saw, like, I don't think it was a teradactor. There was a specific name for it, but the beak was probably about as long as this room. And like, just to imagine that thing was in the air. Like people have not grown up. The producer asking that I was stop watching Jurassic Park after 40 minutes. They made a lot of grievous errors there.
Starting point is 01:15:36 And creating the ones that can fly obvious. The fly and swim ones are, to me, that's a big mistake. But if we had, I keep you reading about these islands that no people live on that we just added tariffs to. I didn't even know about these islands, head island in the place all the penguins live or whatever. There's these islands that no one lives on. What have we reanimated them there? I'm not against it. Hayes asks a question that, you know, people have been wondering.
Starting point is 01:16:08 So go ahead. Hey, Nick, are you still training for the triathlon? And if so, what is it scheduled for? That's over. It's not yet scheduled. It's not over. It's not over. My training has hit a hiccup.
Starting point is 01:16:24 I will admit. But I've got a lot of time. I've got a lot of time. And so am I as gung-ho as I was? Not quite. But your mom has been bullying me because we have this family trip scheduled for early July. And she's been going to the gym every single day. And she just comes home and body shames me.
Starting point is 01:16:53 And her latest thing is she is just convinced that she is stronger than me. Like we were, I know. I know, man. So like yesterday, we just bought a new couch and it's getting delivered today. So yesterday we reorganized the living room. And so I had to like move around the chairs and everything. And every chance she got, she was just like, oh, do you need me to move that? Is that too heavy for you?
Starting point is 01:17:24 Like just constant bullying. It's right for the manhood. That is all below the note. but you know what's what's new with my mother uh yeah uh all right go to chris's question uh chris says how do you predict win totals if the schedules ain't even out yet you got to factor in weeknight games consecutive road trips etc no so that's fair like we know who people are playing we don't know when they're playing so that's why i said these are i think there were only two that i said i'm betting right now one is the patriots i don't care if the patriots got 17 home games
Starting point is 01:17:59 games. They're not winning none. And so I like the Patriots under, but you're right. You do have the fact of like rest advantage, things like that. But we do know who everyone's playing. We just don't know when those games are. So I think, but it's, you know, so I, it's a fair point. But I think NFL's done a really good job of making schedule release feel like a huge event, even though we already know who everyone's playing. All right, everybody, like, rate, subscribe, review. Please do that helped us out. We will see you guys on Thursday. Great job DeMonsay. Great job. Everyone
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