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How are you, pal? Good to see you, pops. I'm doing amazing. I'm feeling good. Listen, for the father of, you know, a newborn, I think newborn is the classification until we get to three months. I think three months infant, yeah. And then around one becomes toddler.

For father of a newborn, you seem like you're doing just fine. You also, yeah, chugging along. I got to say something and then I'll get back to the show. And I'm not going to reveal details on this. But there's sneaky proud parenting moments. And I have a lot of them. I have a lot of proud parenting moments that aren't like sneaky. It's just like, oh, that's when you're supposed to be proud.

But the other day, DeMonze hit me up. Because there had been, I'm just going to, I'll be as vague as possible, an issue with his bank account. And money wasn't missing, but money was not where it was supposed to be. And the fact that you were so, I don't want to say nonchalant, but that it was not like, man, if this money doesn't show up, like, I can't pay my car payment. was really a great thing. And that's like really the having enough of a buffer. For real.

That's like a real partner 20s. Having enough of a buffer that if, you know, if Citibank or whomever screws something up that it doesn't cause a catastrophe in your life. It's like a real, it's like a real moment.

It's a nice feeling. Nice feeling. I appreciate it. Absolutely. It wasn't a, you know, a nothing. some of money. It was a real amount of money, but it was like, I mean, you know, I'm not, I'm not paycheck to paycheck, uh, which by the way, no judgment on that for folks who are.

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Boost Mobile, a little extra time on those. So the Knicks win the NBA Cup. They won't hang a banner. I have two, I have three NBA cup takes. First one is this. It was nice to see someone could beat the thunder. Shout out to the Spurs for doing that and maybe giving even if it's false hope, some hope to the rest of the league. My other Spurs take is, and I guess I'm going to be a man on an island on this. It seems like me and the great writer Jay Caspian Kang are the only people that feel this way. But I don't need to be talked down to or lectures about ethical basketball or which teams have sophisticated offenses from a 20-year-old French kid who's never won anything.

And so, like, I, Wembe has shown more than flashes of greatness. He is, you know, bordering on just being a great player already full. stop. He obviously has seemingly limitless potential, but I'd love to see the guy, you know, accomplish literally anything before he's telling us about which teams have a sophisticated offense and which teams play ethical basketball. Well, he was asked about the Knicks, and he was like, well, listen, they don't have, you know, the sophisticated offense like the heat or the thunder, but they play really hard. And it was like a nice little pat on the head.

He's a lot. And then he was asked about the spurs. And he talked about how they play an ethical brand of basketball. And that it's the Spurs way. And he thinks tactically correct. Listen, call me a Neanderthal.

I think a slightly more tactically correct thing for the Spurs to do might be get Wimby the ball more so he can at 7-6 dunk on people a bit more. That's just my take. Um, he also had some spicy takes about the best player in the league and whether or not it could be Yokic because of the defensive end. Like, just a lot of, he said once I give back, it's me. Yeah, a lot of talking.

Um, I mean, the world loves him. Can you blame the guy? I mean, it's probably, I don't want to say it's gotten to his head because I don't think Wemby's that type of guy, but it's like he's, no, he is, he is espousing wisdom like the Shaolin monks he spent time with. The thing is those guys are 60. And so that's all. So that's first, that's first from straight to voicemail. Second one is dolphins benching Tua Tuaua. And here is, so obviously this is a move that had to be made.

Obviously, folks, the old Tuanon folks and the folks that were really in, no, actually, do you guys remember some of the Tua arguments? It was stuff like, no, you don't understand how he moves defense. with his eyes. There were so many now in retrospect, ridiculous to a defenses. Folks were really convinced, if he were right-handed, you'd respect him more.

They showed us those flipped videos, and they're like, no, when in reality, it was always that. He was an undersized, not very strong-armed player who, tragically, because of the injury history, became totally immobile, and that drastically limited his effectiveness. You then added to it that he might be the worst quarterback I've ever seen behind a podium at press conferences, and what you had was a $54 million a year albatross.

And here would be, here's where I think people haven't gotten there on what, what's next for Tua? Because Miami's going to have to either cut him and eat $99 million of a dead cap hit. They can split that up 67 and 32 for next year and the year after. Or DeMonse, when he has a $54 million guaranteed salary next year, they can trade him. But in order to trade him, in order to get someone to pay $54 million for a backer, quarterback, you probably have to attach multiple second round picks. Like I, and so I don't know if my, I think Miami'd rather eat the dead cap hit than lose the draft capital.

So if they're just, if no one's going to trade for him and they're just going to cut him, I think it's on the board that he's done. And here's why. I the quarterback reclamation projects for the most part de Monzae those guys had never been paid

so they still had something to go chase Baker hadn't been paid Gino obviously hadn't been paid Darnold hadn't really been paid Daniel Jones had been paid but he also you know maybe correctly felt like I just got hurt a bunch

I'm good I just got hurt a bunch Tua got paid top of market. So will he be interested in playing for $4 million? Yeah, I mean, if that's what it takes, if he wants to play, I don't know. So that's the thing. I don't, when he's been paid like that and been a starter, interested in making the least money you've ever made.

And there might even be an offset in it where he makes the. same amount of money no matter what. Like if someone pays him $4 million, then the $54 million Miami owes him just drops to $50. So I'm not even sure if he makes an extra dollar. Be a backup. And here's the other thing for other teams. There's a reason for, you know, simplistic, I'll use this example. Like Tyler Huntley is Lamar's backup. Because you usually want your backup quarterback to be a poor man's version of your starting quarterback. There's no starting quarterback in the league like to him. Like he doesn't seamlessly step in.

First of all, he's left-handed, which does hurt him as far as being a backup. Pinnix is a lefty. Pinnix is a lefty, but the, so the left-handed thing already is going to work against him a bit as far as being a backup, just in that, the way your play, action works, the way your runs, like everything is reversed. The other one is, because of his size and the limitations on his mobility and all that, there is a very specific style of offense he must run that nobody else is really running. So like, could he be the backup in San Francisco? Sure, like, that's where Mike McDaniel came from, except for this part of him.

the one trait you really need of backup quarterbacks is turability. Yeah. Because if you're like you, nobody wants to go to third string. You have to go to third string. All of a sudden, you're pulling Philip Rivers out of retirement. So I just,

I don't know what's next for Tua, but I think this is a, this is a top one. And then the last thing from the straight to voicemail brought to by our friends at Boost Mobile, uh, I didn't tweet about this. this but i appreciate the show putting it in there um awful announcing which last year gave first things

first their annual award for best debate show um gave me the award for best debate personality uh and the here's thank you to the people awful announcing it's very nice uh here is what i will say do you want to say something to monta it looked like no i was going to say it's pretty freaking cool i mean i I read through the thing. I thought it was, you know, it was very nice write-up. It was a very nice write-up. And I don't want to, I don't want to act like it's nothing. It's not nothing. I also felt like tweeting it out would be, I'd look like a dork. Like, hey, look at this thing. And so I didn't want to do that. But what I do want to say is this. This is very, I have, I have been very honest with you guys and with anybody. when they talk about like career goals and that when I got into this field, I had a very, it wasn't nebulous, but it wasn't, it was going to be very difficult to ever prove I achieved it, which was for there to be a moment in time where if you asked family feud style,

and this is what I've always said, 100 sports fans, who's the biggest sports talk guy in the country, that, um, I get, the most votes, you know, that I, I'm the plurality, if not the majority. I want to be very clear. Not only have I not achieved that, it's undeniable that I've not achieved that. That question, if it was asked, right now, Stephen A would win it and win it rightfully. But I do think maybe that if that were asked right now, I might come in second. I certainly would be one of the handful of people that would get, you know,

I'd show up on that board. And that maybe that's shallow, maybe that's vapid, maybe that shouldn't matter. But it's a career goal. And so awful announcing, stamping me as, you know, the best was very nice. And it was touching and it was like, it was kind of the culmination last week ended up being a pretty random but very cool week for me. Oh, I, you know, I mentioned it on Tuesday. I was on Bill's Pod for the first time ever, which was a career goal.

I had the little moment on Levittard show that people seemed to really like. And so I started the week in a hospital bed on the show. So it was all really cool. So I appreciate that. So a fun kind of end of 2025. And you know, the only thing that can make it better to Monzae. If people subscribe to our YouTube channel and subscribe to us on iTunes and Spotify, the only thing.

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Next week's schedule, the next two weeks, because we usually do shows on Thursday. This year, Christmas Day is Thursday, and New Year's Day is a, of course, at Thursday. So each of the next two weeks, we're going to do our regular Tuesday show, and then Wednesday, we will drop our weekly gambling show.

And so there will be two episodes a week instead of three episodes a week each of the next two weeks. But this week, we have this show, obviously, and then tomorrow's gambling show. With all that said, let's get into one of the games of the year tonight in the NFL. Massive game tonight, Rams Seahawks with the one seat on the line. Rams are potentially playing without Devante Adams. I think they should be playing without Devonty Adams. But with the stakes being...

I pulled his hamstring three days ago. Exactly. You can't ask him to play on a Thursday. It'd be insane. With the stakes being clear, who would make a bigger statement and a win here? So, whoever wins this game will become the favorite in the NFC, whether they should or not. Because what it will mean for the one,

one seed. And if the Rams win it, Seattle is basically eliminated from anything but a wild card. And they obviously would get a wild card. If Seattle wins it, it's a little trickier because then they'd have a split. They would have the same divisional record. And so we wouldn't know what would happen except the Seattle would have the upper hand record-wise. Here to me is the story of tonight's game. The story of tonight's game is Sam Darnold must play well.

Because Seattle's a really good team. I think they have an excellent coach. I know they have an excellent defense. Jackson Smith and Jigba's been the best receiver in football all year long. And Darnold, to his credit, has been for the first. the majority of the season, excellent. Like, he was excellent last year. He's been excellent this year.

With that said, if Darnold plays poorly tonight, absolutely no one will believe in the Seahawks. And I wonder if even internally there will be some doubt. Because, and it's not fair entirely. It's not entirely unfair. But it's also not entirely fair. That for Darnold, because week 18 last year with the division on the line, you know, all of that on the line for Minnesota, he played poorly,

and then had the disastrous playoff game. And then this year, their first game against the Rams, which is who the playoff game was against, he threw four picks. People are just ready for him to go pumpkin. And if he plays poorly again, no one's going to believe in CF. But the flip side to that coin is this.

If he tonight, at home, in a standalone window, can bounce back and play not just fine, but really good, then you have to start looking at Seattle and saying, hold on a second. They're in the driver's seat for the one seat. They Darnold just kind of slayed the one team he has had so much struggle with in the Rams. That defense at home in the playoffs with that crowd is going to be a monster. for teams to deal with in one of the only stadiums left that has a real home field advantage.

And that defense has been, since they lost to the Bucks, 38, 35. They allowed 12 to the Jags, 19 to the Texans, 14 to the commanders, 22 to the Cardinals, but that's a misleading 22, because that game, they were up 38 to 6. seven at half. And so, you know, they were in coast mode the rest of the way. 24 to the Titans, but another game that's a little misleading because they were up 17, 3 at the half, zero to the Vikings, nine to the Falcons, 16 to the Colts, and the one loss in that stretch, they allowed 21 to the Rams in a game. The defense was awesome to only allowed 21. because Darnold was so bad with the four picks.

So that to me, DeMonze, is the flashing red light story for tonight. Can Darnold play a high-level game in a high-leverage spot and really stamp Seattle as legitimate A-list Super Bowl contender? It's the biggest question on the field, no doubt. 100%. So I know we got some follow-ups here, so go ahead. So we've got the gambling show tomorrow, but in this game, where would you lean with the line being Rams at Seahawks?

Seahawks is one and a half-point favorites. With all that said, I'd take the Rams because I don't trust Arnold. But like I ain't the, and no DeBonte matters. Right. And the Rams had some travel issues, which I don't love, especially on a short week. They had some issue with their playing. but I would

I wouldn't I'm not going to bet this game tonight I don't feel strong enough about it better quarterback here but that yeah and I do think the Rams are the better team I think Seattle's excellent but I think the Rams are the best team all year

keep going on this could you think Stafford could lock up MVP before you can get to the Sunday of week 15 or 16 sorry a monster Stafford game tonight in a win and I think MVP's his. Okay.

I mean, his numbers this year are stunning in the overall. I mean, 37 touchdowns, five picks. He should hit 5,000 or 4,000 yards tonight. A 112 rating for a team that if they win, DeMonsei is going to have the best record in the entire NFC by themselves. That to me... I mean, when they came in, they were saying the guy's shoulders messed up.

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are on the top teams of the AFC. You tie that in with Kansas City and Cincinnati missing the playoffs. Is there a new class of the AFC? So, I, listen, I don't, I think this is a weird year. Yeah. And the, in a lot of different ways.

Because it's not just the chiefs. And we've talked to, and every year there's big turnover. But there's not typically this level of turnover year to year where the, the best teams in the NFL last year, the teams. And we've talked about this a bit. The 12 plus win teams last year, Detroit 1-15, they're on the outside looking in on the playoffs. Kansas City won 15. They're eliminated from the playoffs. Minnesota won 14.

They've been terrible. Baltimore 1-12. They're on the outside looking in on the playoffs. The commanders won 12. They've had season from hell. The two 12-plus win teams that have maintained to some level, is Philly, which I think it's fair to say is not the caliber of team they were last year, and Buffalo, which might be.

You know, Buffalo's surging at the end of the year. So that part is odd. I have talked a lot about how this year reminds me a lot of 08, sadly, and that the Patriots coming off, the undefeated season, Brady blows out his knee. they missed the playoffs. Peyton Manning, with the Colts, they're a wild card team

because the Tennessee Titans, God, I think that was the Carrie, was that Carrie Collins, Tennessee Titans? They end up being the one seed overall. And it feels like there's a lot of upheaval, which then led to one of the weirdest Super Bowl's. where the Steelers make it, which isn't that weird, but they were a pretty clear going into the season,

third choice, if that in the AFC behind the Patriots and the Steel and the Colts, with really the Ravens being right there in that conversation. And then in the NFC, a nine-win Arizona Cardinals team made it. And that was that Super Bowl. So I say that because then the next year, things kind of went back to normal. The Patriots won their division again. The Colts won 14 games and won their division again.

The Steelers ended up missing the playoffs. In the NFC, it drew Breeze and the Saints were dominant. So it was things got back to normal to a degree. So this is a weird year, and there are now, you do have to take more seriously, the young gun quarterback-led teams in the AFC, but I don't think it's a full-blown changing of the guard. So that's first of all.

Now, let's talk about this game specifically. Come? I'm going to start with Lamar. And I do not care if people think I'm a hater. I just don't. This is going to sound bad. Whatever. Got to grow up, man.

Can't get sick every year and miss work. Just can't. What other quarterbacks to Monzae? What other quarterback since we've been doing the show? Can you remember us talking about, oh, critical playoff push time and he's sick again? I can't. It's every year. It's honestly, it's, every year.

I'm thinking, yeah, I'm thinking something else is going on. But yeah, I mean, every year. You can't get sick every year when it gets cold outside. Every year when it gets cold out if you're a pro athlete. You just can't. It's every year the guy is sick. And we could, you can't be like, ah, well, what does it matter? He plays on Sunday.

Like missing practice this year has hurt him. He missed four weeks of practice with different injuries or four weeks of, In four weeks in a row, he missed a practice. He didn't was, you know, then last week, he missed a practice because of a rest day. Yesterday, flew like symptoms. Like, I'm sorry. And I know that this is, this is me being an old man. And I understand, I say this walking into it, knowing.

that Ravens and Lamar fans are going to clip this and see it and say, this guy, he's the only quarterback in the league that would get criticized for getting sick. And it's like, you know what? That's true because it's every year. The guy got COVID a dozen times and then, and since then, every year has the seasonal flu. Can't have it. so that's like I know I'm right I don't care if it sounds bad I know I'm right so that's first of all second of all I'm not sure whether or not Lamar healthy or not is back I this past week was such

a weird game because he's eight of 12 but it's for 150 yards but he threw one pick but that wasn't really his fault but he also took four sacks and four sacks and four When you throw 12 passes means sacked on a quarter of your dropbacks. So that part's a little concerned. Also, Pittsburgh winning all these games, these last couple games, has really put the Ravens behind the eight ball. So none of that makes me feel good about Baltimore, which leads me to the Patriots.

So go ahead and ask you me the Patriots question because these two tie into each other. Should Patriots fans be concerned if, they drop a second game in a row. Yes, because Baltimore's not that good. That's the, I think that the Patriots were crushing these bad teams. And the one knock on them was, you haven't played anybody.

And they're like, but we played the bills and we beat them. And then you're up 21-0-0 on the bills, and they walk you down and beat you. If you then respond to that, by Sunday night football national TV, a Ravens team that has been shaky, you lose that game, then to me I am putting you in the category of awesome season,

something to build on, not real contender. Does that, you seem like you think I'm being unfair. Yeah, I think the same thing with the bills, how the bills just came back and beat them, just because I just think they're older guys,

I think they're more experienced. Same thing with the Ravens. I don't think Patriot fans should be, point if they lose to the Ravens. It's a good squad. You've seen how Lamar Jackson can play. And if Lamar Jackson comes back and he's good in this game, I think that it'd be pretty understandable. So I guess here's the thing. Here's would be my counter to that. You're right. There's no shame in losing to Baltimore. It doesn't mean you're a bad team. Right. But if in your two playoff dress rehearsals, you play

playoff caliber teams and you lose them both. Do I then think you're going to win three straight playoff games to make the Super Bowl? I don't. If the Patriots, you know, fall to one in three on the year against teams above 500, which is what it would be, that's... Well, because at first I felt like you were saying, like, all the Ravens are cheeks, like, you know, if you lose to them, like that's a bad look. Listen, it's a bit of, it's not that the rate, and I won't call them that.

I'm sorry. I was born in the 80s. It's not that I think the Ravens are terrible. It's that the Ravens, we have seen over the course of the season, I think it's fair to say, they're not a great team. You know what I mean? I'm just holding. Ravens are a high upside team.

but we just haven't seen that upside. And even last week, the defense was awesome last week. But they scored 17 offensive points against Cincinnati. Like that's not a game that afterwards you're like, man, we are rolling. And so I'm very interested to see it. This game will be featured in Nick's picks in tomorrow's show. All right. What other follow-up you got before we move on?

I mean, do you think that the Ravens are likely to get a new head coach next year for Lamar if they crap out this season? If they miss the playoffs, I think the Harbaugh is out. Right. I just think that you can't have a new team doctor. Yeah, new team doctor as well. Yeah, maybe. Or maybe have Lamar put a coat on. I don't know.

Code on. He's playing football outside. What do you mean? No, I'm talking about what I don't. I have a theory. as to why Lamar gets sick so often, but I'm not sharing it. You don't think he dresses appropriately for the weather? I don't know.

I have a theory, but I'm not the, I'm, this is, okay, it's too hot of a tape. So I'm saving it. Let's go, speaking of cold weather, let's go to Green Bay, Chicago. So a few weeks ago, Caleb, through a game inning interception in Green Bay. He gets his chance to get revenge back on Green Bay this weekend. Jordan Love has been looking pretty shaky.

He's thrown three interceptions and he only has six this whole year in the last two over the last two weeks. Two weeks, yep. Which quarterback do you trust more at this point in the season? Listen, I trust Jordan Love more. And I don't think Jordan loves all that trustworthy. But I do think that he went the first dozen games in the year and only through three pick, so I'm not going to kill him for the last couple weeks.

And one of them was an unbelievable play by Pat Surtan, just an unbelievable play. Another one got popped up in the middle of the field. I think Caleb has higher upside than Jordan Love. I think Caleb showed you that he is starting to put it together. Because the second half of that game against Green Bay, he was all. awful in the first half. And then in the second half of that game two weeks ago, he was sensational.

And then he threw a game losing pick. So, you know, it's weird. I see the vibes look better over there in Chicago. It just seems like they're meshing more. And also, I think that's Ben and Caleb getting on the same page. They're winning, the run game rolling, defense forcing these turnovers. And Green Bay, Micah's done for this. the year. And it's just devastating.

Yeah. And is it surprising to you that they're favored in this game with Micah going down? Vegas still really likes Green Bay and doesn't really like the Bears. And I understand it to it. Like the Bears, Caleb has not been steady enough this year to where you fully trust him in a big spot yet. With that said, finish the game. against Green Bay as I mentioned playing great made the one mistake played awesome the whole game against Cleveland and I know Cleveland's weird because Cleveland's a bad team but the defense

isn't bad and Caleb was excellent if he then follows that up with a great game against the Packers then you do feel like oh man he is peaking at the exact right time as we head into the postseason and by the way, the Bears, the Bears right now everything feels all good. You lose this game, and things start to get very, you start to get very nervous. I feel like there's a ceiling on you.

Well, it's not just sealing. It is 10 and 4 going to become 10 and 7 and miss the playoffs. so here's why I know that sounds crazy, but DeMonsie, here's their, again, if they lose this game, here's their next two at the Niners, home for the Lions in week 18. A Lions might be fighting for their lives. Well, definitely is going to be fighting for their lives.

I mean, well, let me rephrase it. The Lions' best case scenario is they're fighting for their lives. Yeah. But, so the Lions have home Steelers this week than at the Vikings on Christmas. Do we think the Lions are going to win those two games? They're favored in both of them. So that puts them at 10 and 6.

The Lions annihilated the Bears earlier this year, 52 to 21. So if you're If you're Chicago, if you lose this game, you run the very real possibility of running into the Lions when you're both 10 and 6

and the final playoff spot is on the line. And so that would be my that would be my concern. And I'm trying to see what the playoff, who do they think? Oh, it's the Packers. That's what it was. Because I was trying to see, because even if the Bears win this game, DeMonze, and you feel like, oh, then they're 11 and 4, they're golden.

Yeah. But they play the Niners and then the Lions. If they were to lose both of those games and fall to 11 and 6, the lions can get to 11 wins. The Niners would be at at least 11 wins, and those teams have the tiebreakers over them. So you feel like, oh, man, would they be in trouble there? But I think the answer to that question is,

as I'm doing it kind of in real time right now, is if the team, if the lions, you know, rally down the stretch, the team that would be at risk of being on the outside looking in would actually be green. bet and that would be a devastating spot so like this the nfc playoff picture is tight really unsettled as far as the nf the three nfc north teams all three of them could still in theory win the division i the lion's shot of winning the division is very

slim. But like, I think it's like 20%. And all three of them could miss the playoffs. And so Packers Bears becomes just one of the biggest games of the year. And obviously, shame Mike is not going to be there. And I'm very curious to see what Caleb looks like.

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Solid team. Yeah, they're not my Jazz. You're not my Jazz. You're your Jags. They've been humming. But they got Denver this week. Well, obviously, has that excellent defense. How high would your confidence be if Trevor came out of this game

and dealt with that defense with a win? Well, here's the thing. It's not just that my competence would be high. They win this game. They are super alive, De Manzee, to be the one seat. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're next two Colts Titans.

So let's just go ahead and ship them those wins. Then all you need is for Denver to slip up once in the final two weeks. Now, that's going to be hard to do because Denver faces what's left of the Chiefs on Christmas, and then the Chargers in a game, the Chargers might not need. So in that regard, you know, that it's unlikely that Denver falls, you know, loses one of those two games, but it's possible. The other thing for the Jags is this, and I do think for Trevor in particular, that matters. If they win this game, they have a great chance of not necessarily getting the buy, but being the two seed.

So why does that matter? I don't think Trevor and this Jags offense, which all of a sudden is super potent, wants to go. to New England, or I guess in theory, Buffalo in round two. Like, they want it in Florida. Like, that is where for this team, I think staying out of the cold as long as possible is a real benefit. And Denver just came off its best game of the year. And Denver is playing its best football of the year. And I've talked about this enough.

No one can say I'm running from it. I am staring in the face potentially being as wrong about Denver as I've been about any team going from where I was on them going into the year to the end of the year. You can say, you know, it's kind of Denver and the Raiders right now are the Raiders, though, I was just stone wrong on. But, and maybe the audience agrees with me on this, I don't know. I feel like a team that everyone expects to be bad that you think can be good. and then they end up being bad is not as embarrassing a type of wrong as a team that a lot of people think

can be really good. Everyone thinks will be kind of good and you're like they're going to stink and then that team ends up being awesome that's like the most embarrassing type of wrong and that's what I'm staring at with Denver. I, but if the Jags go to Denver and win that game,

you have to start opening up the possibility that don't know why coming out the AMC for the Super Bowl. Yes. Yeah. That don't know why it took Trevor this long for it to click in for him. But post Thanksgiving,

he's got 10 touchdowns, no picks. They're scoring 35 a game. He's been awesome. And they, Liam Cohen has just done an awesome job. And Trevor, by the way, was not playing very well earlier in the year. They were winning earlier in the year despite him.

And so this would be obviously just a massive, massive win. Now, the flip side is this. They lose this game to Monzae. and it becomes on the board that the Texans run them down for the division. So like that's the other. So this is a huge, we're talking about could the playoffs go through Jacksonville? Could they be the two seed? The flip side to all of that is if they lose this game,

the Texans path to winning the division opens up quite a bit. Because they split, right? They got one and one. They did split, and it's a bad split. Because the Jags beat them early, and then when they played again, that was the game the Jags were up 26-0-10 entering the fourth quarter against Davis Mills. And they lost that game. That is heavily of note.

Yes. Oh, yeah. That's a huge spot. I mean, it's just an absolutely huge. spot that because had they just held on to that game de Monzae then they would be playing this weekend to be the one seat right they would be 11 and 3 Denver sitting at 12 and 2 and then you beat Denver and get the tiebreaker and basically lock up the one seed so yeah that loss is brutal for them but aside from that game the Jags have been what they here's what they

done since that game. They beat the Chargers by 29. A pretty lucky, ugly overtime win against Arizona. Annihilated the Titans, annihilated the Colts, annihilated the Jets. Now, if you're looking at that, I mean, like, that's a lot of bad teams. Agreed.

But early in the year, they beat Houston, they beat San Francisco, they beat Kansas City. they have the best, if such a thing exists in the NFL, they have the best losses this year as far as who they played. They lost to Cincinnati in week two when Burrow was still there. But I guess Browning, you know, Burrow got hurt in that game. They lost to Seattle. They lost to the Rams.

They lost to the Texans. So they don't have, they haven't lost to any awful teams except for Cincinnati. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Cincinnati. But Cincinnati was with. with borough at least he burrow started that game the most part and they so this is massive spot for them and on the bronco side of things i mean they've just been excellent all year i just i got to call it like

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we didn't talk about today in the gambling show. All right, let's get the listener questions. So the producers ask what happens if these are producers? What happens if Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua this weekend? What are you going to have to say all that?

So here's the thing. Right now, and maybe the producers can put in there what this is on Hard Rock at the moment. Last I saw it, It's like Jake Paul's like around 8 to 1, I think, and Joshua's like minus 1, if this is a, oh, hold on. And so Paul is, I mean, this is crazy.

So Jake Paul's 5. So it moved. Jake Paul's 5.5 to 1 and Anthony Joshua's only minus 800. I don't want to tell people to bet this because the fact that there is a line and the fact that it's not Joshua minus 40,000 makes me worried that this is a work and not a real boxing match. If this is a real boxing match, I would put every dollar I'd, have available to me on Anthony Joshua minus 800. I would, if this is, if you were to, if someone were to like tell me beyond a shadow of a doubt that this, there isn't, this isn't, you know, just made for TV, there isn't something

worked out behind the scenes, that this fight is on the level. I honest to God would feel comfortable. I would bet if I could get, if I could get the bet down, I would put $80,000 on Anthony Joshua and just take the free tent and be annoyed I didn't put more down. Like I, I'm going to reach out. I'm going to tell our boxing expert, Nick Schulman, because I've got to imagine like he I

if he has bet this game I could see I bet this fight I could see Nick putting considerably more down than what I just said like just all the cash he has access to if he thinks it's real like this feels like a once in a lifetime

gambling opportunity yeah and I just said minus 800 right and I understand minus 800 it's a lot of shoes but that's still a a 12.5% return on your money. 12.5%

people kill for that in the stock market over a year. Just get it in the night. With that said, I don't trust it. I would trust it more if it was Joshua minus 50,000. Minus 800? I don't know, man.

That feels that feels something feels weird. But, but But if it's a real lot to do you put a little taste on Paul plus 550. No, see, no way. No way. I'm not betting a fight that I can, I'm not making a bet that I can only win if it's rigged.

I'm just, I'm just not doing that. Paladin says Duval welcomes you on the wagon for the playoffs. Let's get the, you know what, great take. Dusty's watching, I'm sure. Dusty hubs, he says we should get the prince or Liam going on the show. Absolutely get them on the show. 100%. And Daytona's asked, does Herbert finally get a playoff win?

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