The Herd with Colin Cowherd - What’s Wright - Reaction to LeBron & Lakers beating Timberwolves in Game 2 of NBA Playoffs 1st round
Episode Date: April 23, 2025Nick Wright reacts to the Los Angeles Lakers beating the Minnesota Timberwolves in Game 2 and tying the series at 1-1 in the first round of the NBA Playoffs. Nick highlights one of the key plays from ...LeBron James, grades Luka Doncic’s performance, and picks apart what went wrong for the Timberwolves. Nick also quickly breaks down the Grizzlies going down 0-2 to the Thunder and why Memphis has virtually no shot. Nick also explains his biggest worry about the Milwaukee Bucks after another loss to the Indiana Pacers. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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games. Listen, Grizzly's Thunder just sim to the end. We'll get to that briefly at the end of the
pod somewhat interesting momentarily or at least briefly interesting game between the
bucks and the Pacers a 15 point lead trimmed to two in the waning moments but the
buck's not able to get over the top and what that means for Janus but the game of
the night which turned into the rock fight of the night Lakers 94 Timberwolves
85 I don't think anyone is actually surprised by the result home team loses
one they are going to come out more urgent more focused better in game two and the
Lakers did and blitzed him in the first quarter 34 to 15 and then really just
held on the rest of the way culminating in a fourth quarter where neither team could
hit shots where the Lakers were just kind of limping to the finish line and everyone
seemed a little out of gas except for the oldest guy on the court and we can do
big picture stuff shortly.
And I understand
that some folks
will hear this and be like, you got to be kidding me.
LeBron scored 21.
His jumper wasn't falling.
He was 8 of 19 from the field, one of five from
three, and you're
going to wax poetic about the game LeBron
James had, and the answer is, yes, I am.
Because
there was one play
late in the
fourth quarter that, to me,
symbolized who LeBron has been since they acquired Luca and who he has been is
whoever they need him to be that night I will mold my game accordingly three
minutes left Lakers with the smallest lead that they've had since it was 15 to 8
they are up nine the the Lakers were up at least nine points for the final 40
minutes of this game and the Timberwolves however in the fourth quarter were slowly trying to make it a
game and the Lakers had a bad possession Luca got caught up in the air through the ball to basically
nowhere and Luca was excellent more on him in a moment and all of a sudden the Timberwolves are in
transition three minutes down nine chance to cut it to six or seven and all of the
all of a sudden, all the pressure will be on LA.
And LeBron circles around to where Anthony Edwards is getting the ball at midcourt
in a semi-transition situation, steals it from Anthony Edwards, burst to the basket, lay up,
up 11, game over.
And what is to me so remarkable about the best player I've ever seen, if people,
are being honest, the best player anyone's ever seen. This year has been his ability to the
instant they got Luke Adanjic, him saying, okay, I have to be a totally different type
of player because we're a totally different type of team. After, for the entirety of my
Lakers tenure, which at this point is as long as he has ever stayed.
with one team consecutively seven years he had to be on the ball ball dominant running the
offense his transition from that to a do-it-all-it-all-tray-of-all-trades player who in this game said
defense is what we needed to lock in on.
Defense is what we drastically needed to improve on.
And in the Lakers' best defensive game of the year,
at least as far as how many points their opponent scored,
he was the best defender on the court.
And get in where you fit in on offense,
crash the boards,
try to get other people involved,
and lock down defensively,
the tune of Anthony Edwards, not that he was on Anthony a lot, after having nine assists in game
one, zero. No one other than Julius Randall getting going at all. And the Lakers winning a
game they had to have where they only hit six three-pointers. Now, the Timberwolves only hit
five where neither team could hit a three because it was their best defensive game of the year.
best defensive player for the Lakers by it Jared Vanderbilt was excellent in his
you know very limited defensive moments he only played eight minutes but the best
defensive player for the Lakers was LeBron James and you can get away with
LeBron only scoring 20 no one else scoring more than 16 and hell other than
Austin 16 Rui who might have broke his nose in this game which is something to
watch because guys do not like wearing that mask.
The only player who seems to not mind wearing that mask is Jordan Goodwin, who's been wearing
it for months.
If he has to wear that mask the rest of the playoffs, that's a concern.
But the reason they were able to win that game when no one had it going offensively was
because they locked in on the defensive end, led by LeBron, and because they hit all their
free throws.
Now, I understand folks are going to bitch and moan about.
the officiating. I thought the officials took too big of a hand in this game. However,
it was so physical and such a slog on offense, I don't know what it would have been if they
would have let them play even more. If for folks that care about the actual numbers,
24 fouls on LA, 22 on the Timberwolves, 20 free throws by the Lakers, 25 by the Timberwolves.
Now, the Lakers went 20 of 20 from the free throw line, which was damn important when the term rolls are trying to cut into the lead late.
But I am, I have just been really taken aback by LeBron having the opportunity kind of unexpectedly to prove to the world that what he has said,
his entire career, I'll be whatever player this team in this moment needs me to be, ego aside,
that that is actually exactly who he's going to be. Usage rate plummet, being on the ball,
plummet, and he just then can expend that energy in different places. And so I,
I thought, I have thought for the last few years, this, I, the, the fact that there is more
commentary about LeBron James's defensive failings than two of the other, probably not
two of the other, the two other, all time legends in our midst, who carry a massive offensive
workload for their teams and because of that and because of for those guys their own physical
limitations, they're downright negative defenders. In Steph Curry and Yokelyukic, nobody gives
a shit. Everybody just recognizes, well, Steph's undersized and he is expending so much energy
on the offensive end. He's got to kind of hide him defensively. Joker is, he's, you
is doing everything for the Nuggets offensively and is so limited athletically that you got to just kind of work around that on the defensive end.
Those guys, nobody ever complains about their defense.
LeBron, who has played 20 some thousand more minutes, maybe 30,000 more minutes, not 20,000 probably, more minutes than Steph, who's damn near a decade older than Joker,
who for the Lakers pre-Luca
carried the exact same
offensive responsibility
on his team as those guys did on theirs
half the commentary seemingly
around the last couple years as well
he's not the defender he once was
and what he is showing you in real time
is
yeah that's been out of necessity
but if that role
or responsibility shifts, he can still ratchet it up to not the defender he was in Miami,
because he's not the athlete he was in Miami, but still an excellent, impactful, disruptive,
versatile defensive player. And the Lakers had to have that yesterday. I'm still waiting
for the Lakers' offense to show up to this series. Now, the Timberwolves have done a
great job of getting out on shooters, of not letting anyone other than Luca really kill them,
of staying connected, they have been able to hide Mike Conley, who had a really rough game.
And other than Mike Conley, anyone and everyone they put out there is somewhere from
Passable defensively and Julius Randall on the scale from Passable,
to excellent.
Jaden is obviously excellent.
Rudy is obviously excellent with a few, you know,
glaring weaknesses, but his strengths are just massive.
Nikiel Alexander Walker, when he gets out there is great defensively.
Anthony Edwards is one of the best two-way players in the league.
So this is, and by the way, in the next round,
you are going to be playing an excellent defensive team.
If you're the, whoever wins this series,
no matter whoever wins that series because the Rockets and the Warriors might be the two best defensive teams in the league not named Oklahoma City and in round three you're probably playing Oklahoma City and so
the Lakers locked in defensively got just enough from the offense had a first quarter that the Tim Rolves were not ready for and then held on the rest of the way on Luca
I give Luca an A-minus for this game, and the only,
Luca was really strong defensively himself.
Everyone on the Lakers, everyone on the Lakers should feel good about their performance yesterday,
honestly, except for Jackson Hayes, who at this point, you have to,
I think you keep giving him a chance, but that sequence at the beginning of the fourth quarter
was just as dumb as it gets.
A totally unnecessary illegal screen in the back court.
And then following that up with one of the most obvious gold tins on a shot that had no chance of going in
and then seeming shocked by it, that's a maddening sequence.
He played nine minutes, had five fouls.
It was just brutal.
But what I was trying to get to before I interrupted myself,
on Luca.
Luca, the reason it is only an A-minus is because, and you saw it bubbling,
he almost let the refs take him out of this game.
And I'm not saying Luca got a bad whistle.
Luca got to the line 11 times.
But there was a sequence when he thought he was getting hit, didn't get the call,
and then in a borderline dirty moment,
Jaden McDaniels is on the ground
and with his own ankles grabs Luca's ankle
and Luca tumbles and Luca was livid.
And I thought he was going to get a technical.
If I'm being honest, probably deserved a technical.
Maybe the ref knew he had missed it
and so he didn't want to give him a technical after the ref missed what was.
Honestly, in today's NBA, a flagrant foul.
That's a non-basketball dangerous play.
And Luca, you saw him starting to unravel a bit emotionally.
And the Lakers, I think then called timeout.
His teammates got him under control.
But aside from that brief moment,
Luca was unbelievable.
Now, he needs to stop trying so often to just embarrass Rudy Gobert.
I think that takes the Lakers out of their offense to a degree.
But 31, 12, and 9 in a game, his team scored 94 points.
And he was the engine and the catalyst and the guy that had it going in the first quarter.
he had to have almost outscored Minnesota himself in the first quarter.
I'm going to actually check that real quick.
The Timberwolves had 15 in the first quarter.
The Lakers in that game, in this game, I should say.
Let me just go.
My friends of basketball reference are good with this.
Quarter one, Luca had 16.
So he didn't almost outscore the Timberwolves in the first quarter.
He did outscore the Timberwolves in the first quarter and we've now had
13
Playoff games this year
The best one anyone has played is Kauai's game two against the Nuggets
The second best one
Anyone has played given the context of everything
Was either Steph Curry's game one against the war against the rockets or
Luca game two against the Timberwolves
Now, Janice might be like, what more do I have to do and more on him in a minute?
Because the answer is, I don't know what more he can do, man.
And you feel sick for him.
More on Janus just momentarily.
But the Lakers now have the opportunity to take a breath.
They, because of how the schedule falls, they don't play tomorrow, which I think is nice.
travel today or maybe they travel tomorrow actually i don't know who who cares when they'll travel
but they play saturday night is that right no what day is today sorry today's wednesday they
play friday so they go saturday tuesday saturday for their friday for this series i'm screwing this
up i apologize it's early in the morning point is they give
two days between game one and two and two days between games two and three
game three is Friday they then have one day between game three and four and then again two
days between games four and five and then it's every other day however much
longer the series goes so I think those will be two important days off I think
offense needs to get rolling. I'm going to check with our friends what the updated series
price is. This opened Lakers minus 200. Then it quickly shifted obviously after the game one
win to the Timberwolves as slight favorites. It is now a pick them series. So you would expect
it not to have shifted a ton from where it was before game two because the Timberwolves
were series favorites despite the fact the Lakers were big favorites in game two. My, if you guys
remember, what I said was my favorite bet of the Lakers minus a game and a half in the series,
meaning Lakers to win in four, that's off the board five or six, was plus 120. It is now after last
night back to plus 255. I still like, I still think a Lakers in six is very on the board.
They obviously need to win Friday in Minnesota and then a quick turnaround because they
play Friday late night and then Sunday afternoon. We'll see how that one goes. But this was a huge
win. I thought LeBron was exactly who they needed him to be. I thought Luca was.
was exceptional.
I thought Austin
after a rough first quarter
got it going.
Now Austin's got to stop trying to throw these lobs
13 feet in the air.
As Dragonfly Jones wrote,
he's trying to throw lobs to 2009, LeBron.
That guy's not walking through the door.
And they got to figure out
what they're going to do with Jackson Hayes.
On the Timberwolf side of things,
it is,
even though I didn't expect them to feature,
do you go bear offensively.
It is remarkable to me how little they will give him the ball when he has a mismatch.
And I think that's good for the Lakers.
Dante wasn't able to get into this game really because of foul trouble.
Now, the foul trouble was hard to figure out because Reggie kept telling us guys had four
fouls and then the graphics kept telling us they had three.
I didn't know who to believe, but Nas Reid got in foul trouble as well.
Julius Randall obviously was exceptional, exceptional strong.
Julius Randall was the one guy on the Timberals that had it going.
They as a team had 14 assists.
He had six of them.
The rest of their starting lineup had two assists.
Jaden with one, Conley with one.
And their ability, which is what I begged them to do before the series, to
Listen, aunt, you're going to get to the basket sometimes. We'll deal with that. We are not going to collapse on you to all of a sudden leave other guys open. I thought they did a way way better job of that which made aunt have a quiet 25.6 rebound zero assist game and so that's the Lakers game. Let me remind you guys the NBA 82 game grind is done now the real.
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All right, the other, and again, I'm not going to spend much time really at all
on Timberwolves, Grizzlies.
Just quickly, if you didn't, that game was on simultaneously with,
I said Timberwolves Grizzlies, sorry, Thunder Grizzlies of Pacers, Bucks,
I was watching much more of Pacer's bucks,
so I don't really have great analysis for you,
except for the fact that Shea,
after the, you know, not scoring 20 points for the first time in like 75 games,
it scored 27, but on 29 shots,
he actually has had a rough couple of games start this series,
and it does not matter at all,
because the Grizzlies have no shot and don't seem to have a ton of interest.
in competing in this series.
So that one's done.
The question is, will the Grizzlies get a game?
My answer to that is almost assuredly not.
If you look at the Thunder this year against the Memphis Grizzlies,
it is start to finish all year long, utter domination.
Game one of not this series, but this season, Thunder Grizzlies.
Thunder by 24.
Game 2, Thunder by 13.
Game 3, Thunder by 17.
Game 4, Thunder by 21.
Game 5, Thunder by 51.
Game 6, Thunder by 19.
The Thunder against the Grizzlies this year have scored
1.30, 125, 120, 125,
131, 118.
So the Grizzlies drawing dead in the series.
And then we get to Pacer's Bucks,
where if I'm a Bucks fan,
I'm really worried.
And it's not that I'm worried
that I'm going to lose this series.
I'm worried about something far more important.
And so Dame came back.
I was saying on the TV show all week,
once we heard dame might come back imploring people that we need to not act like when a guy is missed a month he's going to come back and look like himself
i know dame hit you know a couple big shots late but he's four of 13 he's two of eight from three is 14
seven assists he was fine but it's going to take him time that they don't have to get back rolling
Kuzma after the 20 trillion game showed up and Portis played a really good game.
Portis had almost 30 off the bench. Not a really good game, a great game.
But the Bucks do not have the ability to guard the Pacers.
And it's why the Pacers scored 40 in the first quarter,
123 for the game.
And yeah, there was a moment.
because it was 115 100.
I think I have that right.
I'm going to double check,
but I was,
I think it was 115 100
with five minute,
five and a half minutes left.
And then Milwaukee goes on a 13-0-0 run
culminating in a deep Lillard three
to make it 115-113.
It's like, oh my God,
they might steal it.
Then Siakam hits a three,
Nimhard hits a three in game over.
And so here's where I'm talking about
being concerned.
Yannis had 34, 18, and 7.
Okay?
Janus in this series is averaging 35, 15, and 4 on 65% from the field.
And they haven't really been competitive in either game.
Again, they cut this one to two with a few minutes left,
but the Pacers were in, have been in firm,
control for 90% of the minutes played in this series.
And if Janice is, you know how after the game guys usually have the box score in their
hand?
If he's looking at the box score and he's like, Tori and Prince is in my starting lineup,
Kyle Kuzma's in my starting lineup, Brooke Lopez, who I won a championship with,
God love him, but was in the 2008 draft and is 37 years old is in my starting lineup.
My best guy off the bench, other than Gary Trent Jr., who's a nice player, is Bobby Portis.
He's 30 years old.
We're leaning on Tori and Prince.
What is my Kevin Porter Jr. has become.
shockingly important to this team.
Ryan Rollins, who played real minutes in the first game of this series, because Dame was out,
now that Dame's back, he's a DMP coaches decision, A.J. Green's part of the rotation.
Jericho Sims, who was like the number four center for the Knicks a couple years ago,
he's in the road. My roster's not good enough, and it's not going,
to be good enough.
And I understand
I am not a guy
listen, you guys know this. I'm from
Kansas City, Missouri. I'm not
into trying to
force
guys out of small markets.
And Janus
has two guaranteed years
left on his contract with Milwaukee
before a player option.
But
Janus, if
it is, it's been a
long time since Janus won a
playoff game.
The last playoff
game Janice won
was on the court for a win
was
the 22
Eastern Conference
semifinals game
game five to go up
3-2 on Boston.
The next year they lost the heat
in the first round in five. He missed
the one win. The next
year he was injured for the playoffs. This year they're down 02. And I just, I don't know the right
place for Janus. And I'm not saying he definitively is going to ask out, but I don't know
how credibly he can feel about the Bucks as contenders next year. When Dame turns 35, Brooke is
37. They, they traded a bunch of their stuff to win that championship. They then made
probably a trade they would like back in the dame trade if for no other reason. Then it
facilitated Boston getting Drew Holiday and they're stuck. Now I know people say, you know,
Brooklyn has been preparing for Janus. I get that. Why, if you're Brooklyn,
you'd want it if you're Janus how does that make you closer it probably doesn't
there are not many teams that have the stuff required to get Janus that then would have enough
stuff left to compete for a championship oddly this is where sorry salt and the
wounds I don't mean to do it if Dallas had played it out this year with Luca and then this summer
said you know what we don't like him we think he eats and drinks too much and maybe this year
they get popped in round one I don't think they would have but whatever and in that
alternate universe where Kyrie's not playing 40-some
it's a game and it has the super high workload
right before the ACL injury
maybe Kyrie doesn't have the ACL.
If Dallas calls Milwaukee
and
Luca for Janus one for one
that's a conversation
and if you're honest you're like oh
okay
I have Kyrie
we have these good centers
that that's interesting
but that's obviously gone
so you look around
Cleveland could create a package that they could still compete at a super high level.
Boston obviously could, but Boston, I don't, that's not the business Boston is going to be in.
The Knicks fired their gun early to get Mikael Bridges and Carl Anthony Towns.
Oddly, the Pacers are an interesting one, but do we think Janice,
is gonna force his way out of one small market for another.
There's always the Miami smoke.
Miami would have nothing left.
Like Janice and Tyler Hero is assuming Bams in the trade,
that doesn't get you there.
So I think it's a weird spot where I don't see the obvious move
that puts Janice in a better.
position and the one he's in right now.
So maybe that leads to him staying.
But man, oh man, I cannot imagine.
Janice feels realistically like this team is even close to being close.
And so those are my takeaways from night, what was that?
night four of the NBA playoffs tonight is a nice night to potentially you know take your
significant other your kids or whomever out for dinner and just be like we just got to be home by
around 930 if you're on the east coast magic Celtics tonight even without tatum the magic
are not going to be able to score 90 points 90s certainly not 95 points
Celtics will win. Heat calves is a don't need to watch and then Warriors Rockets will be awesome.
But Magic Celtics, heat calves are two early ones that I think you're safe skipping.
And then tomorrow night, and it is, tomorrow night's weird in this regard.
Nick's Pistin 7 o'clock TNT, awesome. Thunder Grizzlies 930 TNT.
why Nuggets Clippers 10 o'clock NBA TV sure feels like if you can you should flip-flop those two
and put Nuggets Clippers on TNT and again most people who have TNT at this point probably have
NBA TV but it's still they I think they misjudged what the real people might be like
I the Thunder deserve a prime spot it wants the playoffs actually start for them they might
But tonight, one big game, Warriors Rockets, absolute, unequivocal, literal must win for the Rockets.
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