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Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Nick Wright breaks down the newest anonymous QB rankings from The Athletic, including Jalen Hurts' position among tier two quarterbacks and which QBs he sees rising and falling this year. Is it defensible to have Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, or Joe Burrow ahead of Patrick Mahomes? Then, Nick discusses the biggest stars of the preseason, from Cleveland Browns QB Shedeur Sanders to Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. Later, Nick weighs in on Caleb Williams not starting for the Chicago Bears before reacting to breaking news from the NBA. Finally, as always, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But it'll be great. So all that's going on. And I'm fired up today. I'm fired up today because how do I say this respectfully? People are either dumb or lying or just think that we don't have access to their previous takes. And or just, you know what I mean? the maybe the most the biggest indictment i could say just trolling for views or clicks or content i don't know what it is but i do know that i'm just letting you guys know right now we have eight topics

listed for today's show topics two through eight are going might be bite-sized because topic one could take a while but before we get to that straight to voicemail again brought to you by our friends at Boos Mobile. Cam Little, 70 yard field goal, two takes on this, DeMonsay. One, that is now the record. I don't care. There's the preseason. That's the record. That should be in the record books. And two, I just up to the Jags to 11 wins. I had him at 10. I now got him at 11. If you get to midfield in field goal range, I mean, what a weapon. Um, I, listen. your guy chet i say this with respect it's just he's got it he's got to grow up the fit was a little go ahead it was a little outlandish but why is every guy that's doing

something like bad or not great why is it always my guy i feel like you i feel it's not always that's what i feel like i well here's the thing do you or do you not feel like i have been too skeptical of Chet because I don't like how skinny is. Were you or were you not more pro chat than me? So on this show between the two of us, he's your guy. He's certainly not my guy. Anti-Chet. Well, I'm not anti-Chet either, but I'm getting there.

And also the Wilds was a big chat guy. And then Wilde read an interview with Chet where they asked him about his favorite books. And his answer was just all coffee table books. with a bunch of pictures. He was like, I was like, I've got this book on Rolexes, which is just a picture of Rolexes.

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Liam could have got legit hurt there. Yeah. Like that little, that whip lash thing. Back went all the way up. Yeah. That was a scary. that was a scary moment.

How about that rest, man? Weight room. I know. The ref is running full speed, probably. Running full speed and runs into him. Yeah. And CD, you know, is limber enough. So I thought the ref was fine.

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Just give it five stars. That's all YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, all that. All right, DeManzai, it says the first topic is assinine quarterback rankings. Go ahead. Yeah, so a couple of QB polls came out, quarterback rankings, whatever you want to call them. So Bill Simmons debuted his quarterback pyramid, and he had Josh Allen at the top. Dan Orlovsky came out with a bunch of traits that quarterback should have, was about six, and had Patrick Mahomes, number one, and about the same amount of categories.

is Daniel Jones. So which one of these is enraging you more? Which one do you want to end up first? Oh, it's definitely Simmons's and we're going to deep dive on it because it is not lost on me that my pal and I like Bill, Bill and I have a good relationship, but it is not lost to me that Bill Simmons kind of kicks off his full NFL coverage with a podcast. that debuts a quarterback pyramid and whose main guest is Kevin Wilds. I'm not saying that Bill's, that this was a direct shot at me and, you know,

trying to pull apart first things first, but I'm not saying it wasn't. So I'll get to Bill in a second. But on Orlovsky's thing, I, listen, I'm not going to, I'm not going to argue with Dan. Dan obviously knows the quarterback position better than me. What I am going to say is this. Armstrong. He has Josh Allen won Patrick 2. No problem.

I actually agree with that. And I actually think you could be tricky with that one. There might be, you might be able to say Herbert could be ahead of Patrick. Hell, I don't know if Joe Milton's eligible. like he could be like just the raw arm strength. Josh Allen won is totally fine. No beef whatsoever. Then it gets dumb.

Ball placement. Patrick Mahomes, five behind Joe Burrow. Again, fine. Jaden Lamar and Josh. You know, I think it's a good take. I think a lot of people watch Lamar, Josh and Jaden and they're like, they can just put it where they want better than Patrick Mahomes. I was just thinking like how much of Burroughs is the fact that he has those crazy wire receivers.

They're just going to. Well, no, I think Burrow is like dumb accurate because he has to be because he's not very fast. Right. And he doesn't have the strongest arm. So the only way he can be as successful as he is is like I think Burrow would maybe win the contest of. that net drill that Caleb failed the other day. If they did that but like made it harder and harder and harder, I think Burrell might be my number one pick.

But call me crazy in that drill, I wouldn't take Lamar over Patrick. Again, maybe I'm a hater. Next one, we get to mechanics where you list 10 quarterbacks and Patrick's not one of them. And let me tell you, again, he has Lamar four. Yeah, I watch Lamar play quarterback and I'm like, man, if only Patrick had as clean of mechanics as Lamar does, I do. Like I feel that way. I think it's a good take. The other ones and again, again, like the, if Gino, DAC and golf have better mechanics than Patrick, then maybe mechanics are overrated.

But mechanics didn't, again, Patrick didn't make the top 10. Decision making with the football. That was warm. Came in stiff. Again, and then this is the one that really I couldn't, I couldn't get over. Pocket presence. Burrow one, Lamar, two, Patrick 3. Okay.

Like, whatever. I'm not going to, I don't even know what we're doing here. But fine. That's Orlovsky's list. He has a more fine-tuned eye for quarterback than me, I suppose. I think it is, I disagree with some of those, but that's not my real beef. My real beef is with Bill. Because Bill debuts his quarterback pyramid and has Josh Allen at the top.

And the problem with that is, and here's the problem with having as long and as successful a career as Bill. Simmons has had and a career that so many folks myself included obviously literally grew up reading every single one of your sports takes because Bill's column was must read for every sports fan of my generation for more than a decade the problem with having that level of influence and being having that long of a career is earmops kids we remember what you fucking wrote and for teen years bill fought tooth and nail against the idea that anyone would ever under any circumstances consider Peyton Manning better than Tom Brady even though for the entirety of those 15 years, Peyton had a strong, a far stronger case to be considered

better than Peyton Manning. I'm sorry that let me back that up. Peyton had a far stronger case to be considered better than Brady. then Josh would have right now to be considered better than Patrick. And this is where all of these quarterback rankings are going to be self-defeating. But let me just quickly, off the top of my damn head, give you the Peyton versus Tom first decade history. when again, a reminder, my pal Bill built part of his massive empire on the take that Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning. If we go 2000 to 2005, Peyton has peeled MVP's, but Peyton is 0 and 2 in the playoffs against Tom.

Tom has three championships. Peyton has none. Peyton has never been to a Super Bowl. So even though Peyton Manning, statistically speaking, was the far superior quarterback with MVP's, he had never beaten Tom in a big spot. The championships were three to nothing. Then in 2006, Peyton not only wins another, I'm sorry, he's already won two MVPs at that point, plays Tom in the AFC championship game. Tom's up, I think, 21 to 3 at halftime. Payton comes all the way back and wins the Super Bowl.

Wins it. Beats Tom and the playoffs are now 2-1. Peyton wins the Super Bowl. And Bill, I think justifiably, is still, even though in that moment, all pros, Peyton has multiple time has zero. MVP's, Peyton has multiple Tom as zero. The playoff win-loss record is 2-1. The rings are 3-1. Bill is still strident, steadfast, correct. Tom's better.

Seemingly vindicated by the fact that the next year, Tom finally wins his first MVP, team goes undefeated, they look like one of the greatest teams ever, until as double-digit favorites, they get beaten the Super Bowl. In that moment, even though the rings were 3-1, the MVP, were 2-1, the all-pros were 2-1, or 3-1, I'm not sure, and the playoff win-loss record was 2-1 in Tom's direction. In that moment, if anyone had debuted the take, Peyton has passed Tom because Tom didn't win the Super Bowl last year, Bill's head would have exploded.

And then, by the way, over the next decade, Tom never beat Peyton in the play. off again. There was a brief time in Denver where it looked like maybe Peyton had kind of overtaken the argument. And then Tom went on that unbelievable 2014 through 2020 run to submit himself as the goat. But every single football take we have heard for 20 years from Bill Simmons has value. Playoff performance, doing it in the biggest spots, and if you've got the belt, someone's got to come take it from you. So when I saw the clip yesterday where the rationale for elevating Josh Allen, who is, again, unlike Peyton Brady, where Peyton had the stats, and Brady had the wins.

Mahomes has more all pros, more MVP's, better career numbers, five trips to the Super Bowl to zero, three rings to zero, and is four and O in the playoffs against him. When I hear the argument that, uh, Mahomes played so poorly in the Super Bowl. Bowl, he falls down a peg without the obvious follow-up being, why wasn't Josh in the Super Bowl bill?

Because he couldn't beat Patrick again. And that is where, and again, I think Josh is the second best quarterback in the league. now that Josh has a league MVP, I'm comfortable calling him a future Hall of Famer. I think Josh eventually is going to break through. I think Josh's ability last year to cut down on the turnovers and still carry a team that wasn't all that talented at the skill position, certainly on the outside, was wildly impressive. but we have to stop acting like these have been unfair fights or Josh hasn't had his chance

in back to back years in the playoffs once in Josh's building once in Patrick's building Josh has gotten the ball late fourth quarter down three points the first time he can only get them to not the edge of field goal range, but not a gimmie field goal, 44 yarder if I remember. And that would have only gotten them the tie with a couple minutes left.

Has a chance, finish the game, ball in your hands, don't let Patrick come back and get it. They come away with zero points. Then last year, down three conference championship game plenty of time can't get to midfield so do not do you cannot and this is why the quarterback ranking stuff right now can be so frustrating for people has patrick played in the regular season his best ball the last couple of years no but who are again And I've said it before, I will say it again.

If you want to argue, you know what? Jalen Hertz is the best quarterback in the league. I don't think anyone actually believes that, except for maybe Jalen's lovely mother who dressed me down a bit the night before the Super Bowl. I don't even think Jalen believes that. But if you want to argue that, at least there is a case you can make. but for the other three guys, as I said a moment ago, the argument becomes instantly self-defeating. Burroughs claim to fame is what he did in the first two, the first postseason and a half of his career.

Going into Arrowhead, beating Patrick, getting to the Super Bowl, then getting back to the AFC championship game. And then he had a pretty miserable second half with a chance to go to a second straight Super Bowl, got the ball, it's high game, go get a field goal, got negative yards, loses, and has not been back to the postseason since. There is no time in the history of pro football when there have been multiple first ballot Hall of Famers active in their prime, where we would say a guy elevated himself to best quarterback in the league in a two-year stretch where he plays zero playoff games.

Not eligible. Lamar, who is in the midst of arguably as good of a two-year regular season stretch as any player at his position ever, when that player, to varying degrees, this past year was the most positive sign has come up against the other two guys who he is in the debate with for who's the best and both games gotten outplayed by and lost to season, Patrick two years ago and Josh last year, he's not going to have it. And across all of

sports, except for maybe there were some people arguing Jerry West was better than Bill Russell, but with respect as great as the Mahomes Reed chiefs are, they are not the institutionally top to bottom more talented team like the Russell Celtics. We have never made an argument that when every single year for a half decade one guy beats and outplays another guy in the postseason that the other guy's better. It's again, for the entirety

of Peyton versus Brady when Peyton was a cult that whole decade plus they only played in the postseason three times and it was 2-1 Tom and it was still framed correctly as if Tom held over him in the postseason

imagine if they played four times and it was 4-0 and so again this is what I would ask my pal bill if Tom had beaten Peyton in 06 and then gone on to lose that Super Bowl and he was up 3-0 in the playoffs and the ring count was 3-0 and the Super Bowl count was 4-0 and someone made the argument that Peyton Manning was better based on Tom playing poorly in this make-believe 2006 Super Bowl. What would your reaction have been?

And the answer is we know. So can we please, please have a level of consistency on this? That's all. Honestly, that didn't go quite as long as I thought. And again, I'm not trying to act like I invented the pyramid-style ranking of quarterbacks. What I will say is, if you're going to really do it, each level has to be one player bigger than the previous. You can't go one, two, three, four, five, five, five, five, five. That's not the idea.

That's not how a pyramid looks either. And, I mean, it's just not. I mean, I don't do that. That's a crayon. That's how a crayon looks, not how a pyramid looks. That's first of all. Second of all, my buddy, KW, could have given you pointers on that when he was on the pod with you. UFC 319's blowing back to the windy city for the first time in six years. Check out the fight card and get in on all the action at drafting sportsbook.

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This is voted on by execs and GMs and coaches, so this is the real deal year. The survey, HydroGrod Mahomes and Burrough tied at number one with Alan, Lamar, and Staffordy at Tier 1. How does some voters not have Alan and Lamar as Tier 1 guys? So here is what's crazier about that, DeMonze. And this, I don't know if you remember. Last year in this poll, coming off the league MVP, Lamar was tier two. Yeah, I do know.

This is the first time in Lamar's career. He's been tier one. Last year, Lamar got 23 tier one votes, 26 tier two votes. votes and one tier three vote at tier three votes an out yeah that's just an outrage um this year he got 46 tier one votes and four tier two votes josh got 47 tier one votes and three tier two votes i'm not listen i am not going to oh it's it's as close to unanimous as you can be without being unanimous.

There's clearly, listen, what you saw is some of these executives, and you saw it kind of throughout the voting on this, really when they are judging quarterbacks, they are almost entirely just removing improvisation and running. and that's they are purely asking themselves and they even describe it a tier one quarterback can carry his team each week

all right so Josh and Lamar obviously are in that category the team wins because of him Josh and Lamar are in that category he expertly handles pure passing situations so I think that is where people found a way to discount Josh and Lamar, who are obviously tier one quarterbacks. My response to them would be, those guys, first of all, they're excellent passers as is.

Now, I'm not Jim Harbaugh saying Lamar's the greatest pure passer to ever play. I think that's probably a step too far. But they are such dynamic. runners that even in pure passing situations, they can make the play with their legs. So like, I just think those are bad opinions. You know what I mean? Like, say it again. Games changing.

Yeah. Games changing and their ability to, they, they can just beat you in a bunch of different ways. Like, it is you, you can't, if you wanted to argue as I have in the past, there is only one there's a there's a tier above tier one and that's the tier mohomes lives in fine but if we're saying there's just tier one it those four guys well you know what let me back it up Patrick Josh and lamar have to be in it I think burrow definitively deserves to be in it but if someone wanted to construct a case which is kind of the reverse of what we're talking

out on Burrow, which is, yeah, he expertly handles pure passing situations, but unlike the other three guys, he can't beat you. Well, he kind of carries his team. I mean, he carries, he carries his team while he's on the field. Like I don't, the, you can't control what's happening. Terrible is tough, but that, that's not on him. Um, but he can't, all the other guys can beat you with. their arm and their legs.

Burrow can only beat you with his arm, but he's so good with his arm. Like, listen, he's clearly tier one. And then it gets a little tricky, which is, and so, like, listen, I just think those three or four voters that didn't have Alan Lamar's tier one, like, it wouldn't surprise me at all if some of them had, like, how many tier one votes did Herbert get? Let me look real quick. Herbert got 13 tier one votes. So I bet those three or four voters that didn't be.

vote Josh and Lamar did vote Herbert and that's just stupid. I mean, that's just flatly dumb. All right. Hertz, he was square in the middle in the tier two, with 12 voters giving him a tier three vote. So is the Hertz debate put to rest? Well, so Hertz got three tier one, 35 tier two, and 12 tier three. and he so in let's just give it some context here right after we said we said Lamar got three after he won

league MVP yeah yeah um after the super bowl year that they lost when he came in second MVP voting okay so that was when he came in second MVP voting to mahomes that year he got 10 tier 1, 38 Tier 2, and 2 tier 3. Last year, after the Supernatural Funk year and the collapse at the end of the year, he got one Tier 1, 33 Tier 2, and 16 Tier 3. This year, he got two more Tier 1s up to 3, 2 more Tier 2s up to 35, and down to 12 tier 3s, um,

down from 16. I think having Jalen Hertz listed as a tier three quarterback is stupid. I want to make that clear. I think that now the description of tier two, if you care, a tier two quarterback can carry his team sometimes, but not as consistently. He can handle pure passing situation in doses and or,

possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above tier three. He has a hole or two in his game. I think that's a perfect description of Jalen Hertz. I think the actual description of can carry his team but not as consistently, can handle pure passing situations in doses and possesses other dimension that are special enough to elevate him above tier three, has a hole or two in his game, that to me is a perfect description.

The hole is he has never proven he can be a high volume passer that leads to team and individual success. But everything else he does at a super high level. And whatever demerich you give him on pure passing situations, the absolute cheat code of the tush push that, you know, is unique to him, it would appear. When I say cheat code, I mean that in a complimentary way. I'm saying, go ahead.

Like that would be a con, like that would elevate him? That's elevates him. Okay. That what I'm saying is, I was curious if you go ahead. No, if you're going to knock him for, this is a point Wilds made yesterday, and he's right. if we're going to knock him for in third and nine, would you rather have Matt Stafford, then we have to give him credit for the fact that it's fourth and one.

You'd rather have him than any player in the league, right? Yeah, but is that, is that him or is that the team? A combo. I mean, I do think the fact that he is so strong and so tough and has mastered it, you know what I mean? Like I saw Tanner McKee try to do it in the preseason.

It was ugly. We've seen other teams, you know what I mean? So I think it's, you know, I think it's not all him, but it's part him, part the team. But with all that said, I, the guys above him, I can like Matt Stafford's number five on this list. I love Stafford. Now is if Stafford's number five with an asterisk because we're saying if he, you know, if he's healthy. That's totally fair. And if you want to say you're going to knock him

because Jalen gets hurt and just plays through it. Now, Stafford's played through a bunch of stuff, but we are worried at this point with his age of him missing time. So be it. But I would rather have a healthy Matt Stafford than a healthy Jalen hurts.

So I think Stafford being ahead of him is fine. Jaden is tricky because Jaden, the sample size is just so small. You got to see another year. Right. So you know what I mean? Like Jaden is, it was the greatest rookie season ever, but the sample size is so small.

And it feels like Jalen is a safer bet, but Jaden has, you know, Jaden has a better chance of one day being number one on this list than Jalen, right? Herbert, we've talked about, I think having Herbert above Hertz is an outrage. I think that is just purely based on an idea. I would not have, and then barely ahead of him is Jared Gall. I would rather have Jalen Hertz than Jared Gall. Because I think they are very similar in that under the right circumstances can be very dynamic and a huge part of winning. But I think Jalen could thrive in more circumstances than golf. So I think Jalen's toughness and wrong.

running would translate better to a bad team than Jared. So I think Jared on a bad team plummet. He's getting pressure 100%. Jay that might be able to run away. Exactly. And so, um, and so I understand the, so if I were doing it, if it were mine, and I know, I know that this is one where I've probably kind of over the last. six months flip-flopped a bit because at one point I said that you can't like it's my

homes Alan Lamar and then if you're going to say it's a big four with borough it's got to be a big five with Jalen but even when I was saying that deep down I was like but I think Stafford's better so if I were to just do the Nick Wright rankings pure just me who I would like for this season, assuming health. Patrick, Josh, Lamar, Joe, Stafford, I want to make sure I'm not leaving anybody out. And then I would put in Jalen.

I would put in Jalen at 6. Jalen 6, Jalen 6, Jaden 7, Baker, eight and then it gets and then it gets and then after that we could have a debate about Herbert versus golf but that's where I would you know I mean that's where I would have it and then after them we have a debate about CJ versus love versus DAC and then obviously I'm going to start elevating my guys Caleb and Trevor but they got to And so that's where I would rank them. And I think that is, so I didn't think any of these were crazy out of line.

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I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down. Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,

and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman

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Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds, I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's go to Rogers. Yeah, I was about to say, do you want to talk about Rogers going from tier one to tier three? So I was shocked that Rogers was tier one. Oh, so he, so this has been, wow. Wait. Okay, so this is what's interesting. So here is Rogers over the years.

So Rogers going into his final year in Green Bay, unanimous tier one, obvious. I think he was the back-to-back defending league MVP. Unanimous tier one. Rogers going into his first year with the Jets. 30 tier 1, 20 tier 2. That again to me was fair. I would have put him tier 2 because I thought his last year in Green Bay,

you saw the writing on the wall. And you saw it in evidence by his stats, you know, the team success, a lot of that stuff. But he was still just a year removed from being a two-time MVP. going into last year with the Jets, this was a very interesting looking back on it, voting. Going DeMonse, going into last year,

again, where he was coming off the blown Achilles, he got 23 Tier 1 votes. It's like, oh, poor guy, he tore his Achilles. And he's going to be fun, right? He's going to come back with a vengeance. 18 tier two votes Seven tier three votes and two tier four votes I'd have to ask Sando and I could probably go back and read the article I'm not gonna do it right now live on the air

Was he the first player ever To get multiple votes in four different tiers To get you know multiple tier one and tier four votes So last year going in the last year i he so he ended up averaging out that was interesting last year he got more votes for tier one than any other tier but he averaged out to a tier two player quarterback and this year he so weird now guy that gave him a tier but he got one tier one vote this year too by the way oh i clicked the wrong thing okay not so weird so this year he got one

tier one vote that guy's out of his money yeah i mean that's just that's just that's just idiotic he got 16 tier two votes i can't call that idiotic but i disagree 27 tier three votes just where i would have him and then four tier six or sorry six tier four votes which is folks that think that he's just finished right um but where he is as far as in the hierarchy So tier three quarterbacks are in order. Kyler, Aaron, Tua, Trevor, Gino, Knicks, Darnold, May, Caleb, Bryce, Kirk. Those are the tier three. For me personally, the quarterbacks I would rather have than Aaron every single one of the guys tier one and two.

So that's 14. And then I would rather have this year, Gino, Drake, Caleb, Trevor, Tua, and that's probably it. Not Bo Nix, not Kyler, and not Darnold or Bryce or Kirk. So I would have him closer to the middle of tier three. Go ahead. Apparently, Rogers was actually number two in tier two, number seven overall. Yeah, last year. Oh, okay.

Yeah, last year. So he, that's what I was saying. Last year, he, last year he, last year he got more votes. He got more tier one votes than any other tier. But because he also got tier three and tier four votes, he, he, he got, you know, dinged down and dropped to tier two. Um, but yeah. So I would have him close to 20. they have him 15.

The Kyler one's interesting. Because I think having Kyler at the almost a tier two guy and ahead of all those other guys, the young players that you expect to pop ahead of Geno, ahead of Rogers, I think is interesting. I mean, I just wouldn't.

I just don't. He's like low tier three. Yeah, to me is, but maybe I'm low on him. But I, I just, you give him credit because last year he did, he was able for the first time in four years to play all 17. But I just feel like at this point, we kind of know what we're getting from Kyler.

And he's a player that. once you don't like them it's too small well there is that but it's also true that once you start seeing thanksgiving decorations up at the stores you know he's not going to be playing well i mean it's just who he's been for his career he's good for about the first half of the season and that to me is like i don't know why that would change. Like, the,

and so I think that I'm not as high on Kyler. I, I respect the talent, but I care, you're right about this, DeMonte.

I care about raw talent way less with very small players. Yeah. I just do. I mean, that was like the best high school football player like ever.

Football quarterback. Yeah. The best. Yeah. I mean, no, use the best. And he was a hell of a college player as well.

And he's had moments in the pros. And maybe it was as simple as high school and college seasons or 12 games long. You know what? Mark this down. If we ever have another strike shortened NFL year, I might bet on Kyler. They come back and they're like, oh, it's only a 10 game season, plus the playoffs this year. I might be a Kyler guy that year. Um, sense.

Uh, but, uh, But that is, but for the time being, I would have him low tier three. Do you want to get to that last one or I want to just go ahead? What are some quarterbacks you see and going up a tier this year and who are some quarterbacks you see going down a tier? All right. So let me look at the full list again. I've opened this thing up so many times that now I've got, I've got too many tabs. I do this sometimes.

All right. So let me maximize this so I can look at this better. I think that going up a tier, so gosh, this is a tough one. I think that Caleb will be tier two going into next year. I think that Rogers will be off the list

because I think he'll be done. I think that Purdy will probably be Tier 3. He's hanging on for Deer Life in Tier 2 right now, and I don't think the Niners are going to be excellent this year. And I think that who do I think could jump into Tier 1? You know what? I might go all in on this team this year. Fake show.

Oh, okay, yeah. I think the, I think the, the, the bucks could have a monster offensive season. And I think potentially could elevate Baker. And especially if, if Stafford is dinged, you know, if staff, I think staff, it was very weird for Stafford, who had been tier two to Monzae for 11 straight years. And then this is the year he gets elevated. Um, when he wasn't great last year's. regular season. It was awesome in their two playoff games, but wasn't great in last year's

regular season. Jordan Love. I love it's here. I mean, but two to one. Two to one's hard. You know what I mean? Like, that's the, I am curious, like, let me ask you this. And the answer might be none of the above. But no, I'm not going to allow that. You have to say a name. Okay. won't be mad. Of the four guys who were all either unanimous or close to it, Tier 1, Patrick, Joe, Josh Lamar, who do you think is at most risk? Most risk to move down. I think it'd be Joe Burrell just because if they don't make the postseason again this year, then what are you, like, what are we going to say at this point? I mean, maybe it's the defense again, but.

I agree, but I think it's for a different reason. I think the only thing that could move Joe down is if he gets hurt again. And I think given their offensive line and given his history, I think he's the most obviously of the big four. He's the most likely to miss time. Yeah. Yeah. You know what?

And so that would be my answer. All right, let's talk to Chador. Chador, he looked pretty good. I mean, he looked fantastic, but he looked pretty good for a quarterback who went there and did his thing. head coach Kevin Stefanski still hasn't committed to Shadour. So do you think that he showed everything he needed to do to get the starting job? What are you?

Well, he's definitely not going to be their week one starting. That is going to be Joe Flacco. I don't even think, by the way, if I were Shador, I know he can't say this. I wouldn't even want to be the week one starting. Like I would, the, the Brown, open with the Ravens and then they play I'm sorry the Browns open with the Bengals so I wouldn't actually hate that because the Bengals defense but then they go Ravens Packers Lions Vikings Steelers like those are not defenses I'm interested in playing right off like a lot

will get beat up a bit exactly and I understand that the Browns just released their latest depth chart and Shador is still number four they did not move him up at all I don't believe it. I think that Chador has now, if we are being fair, he has taken, it is now Dylan Gabriel who is chasing Chador in the quarterback competition instead of vice versa. Like, the, you know, the old adage, you don't lose your job due to injury is total BS. happens in sports all the time. People lose their job because of injury

and because the guy who fills in for you shows something, he didn't have the opportunity to show before. And so if Flacco was just entrenched at one, which I think he is, Kenny Pickett was two and is two on the lay step chart. He's been hurt the last couple weeks of camp. It doesn't look like he's going to play at all. in their, he didn't play in their first preseason game.

Doesn't look like he's going to play in their second. Dylan Gabriel is three. Gabriel, according to all reports on the ground, has been bad in practice and was injured for the first preseason game. Shador's four. He's practiced well. And I thought made four very high level throws in that game. And it really only made a couple bad mistakes.

Yeah. And so I think that is enough to where he should have taken the lead on Gabriel. And the goal for either of these rookies flatly needed to be beat out the other rookie. So when Flacco inevitably gets benched, I'm the guy they go to. Now, maybe they'll go to pick it, but I think that would be assonite. and so now I also think this DeMonse. I think Gabriel will

and should start preseason game number two and then you know he can if he plays well Why don't they just give both of them a half I think that's what they'll do. I could even see him go DeMonsei quarter quarter quarter quarter

quarter okay you know what I there are about like I could see Gabriel playing then Shador then Gabriel back in then Shador. That way, you know what I mean? You get more time with starting caliber players or, you know, guys that are actually going to make the team or they each get it. But I now think Gabriel, I think Shador is now amongst the rookies in pole position. And I also think that, and this is why, so I thought after the game, him saying something to Tony Grossie was totally fine. And I,

people don't recognize how common that is. That guys saying after games in locker rooms or in the tunnel to reporters, like, hey, what was up with that? That has happened forever. That used to happen to me. I remember Matt Castle saying to a different media member, we're both standing there when he realized that media member. You know what?

I think it was to Mark Carmen, our friend, whose birthday was actually yesterday. I think it was to Karm that he said to him, this is your buddy about me. He's like, yeah, he's like, he sure talks a lot of shit, doesn't he? Like, did not like some of the things I had said about him. That's super common. So I have no problem at all with Shador having that moment with Tony Gross. At this time, though, because that really what you need to be worried about. So here is the thing on that.

I think the smile and the laugh at the end made it over. okay. And I think that like charisma and charm and a great smile can really carry people in certain. Yeah. And so like that to me was fine. I thought the walk in was a misstep. I didn't think it was a grievous error. But I thought I'm not asking you to be someone you're not, but turn down the volume on literally on the boom box, I guess, and also figuratively. Now, I understand those were his teammates, not his entourage, but still, you're the quarterback. The guy carrying the giant walking stick staff in the boom box, I might have been like, can we not do that?

And if you really want to walk in like that, maybe I'll go in, you know, a little bit after you. Because it's, he is, if the Browns won't elevate him. him on their real depth chart, then he also wants another team to trade for him. You know, and so I just don't think that helps. But I don't think it's a huge deal. You'd certainly rather him play well and have an awkward pre and post game than be perfect pre and post game and play point. Go ahead.

No, I mean, with that take, you were saying that maybe he should show. out for the Rams or maybe the Rams look at him because words like a mortal chamber are being thrown around and it's very serious. Yeah. I don't love it. So do you think that's more of a possibility now? Like it's more or more serious. I think that right now he's probably worth he was drafted with a fifth. I think he's worth at least a fourth. You know what I mean? And so, but I don't, I think the Browns want to keep him. I think Stephansky might be coming around if he wasn't already there. And I think you had to be impressed by how he handled himself and how he played this Sunday.

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and Headwriters.

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And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jen she won. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface.

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Let's go to Caleb. We talked enough chiefs earlier, so we can move on to Caleb if we can. Caleb Williams did not play it down in the preseason game, and Ben Johnson is not worried about that at all. He said, in quote, there is no substitute for real-life bullets. I get that. But at the same time, when you can accumulate 70-plus reps in a day, that's a lot. pretty good. If live action is the best option here, then why, why not? Playes, guys. So listen, I, I think, and I've said this on TV a dozen times, so I will,

you know, repeat myself here. I think in certain, sometimes you hear like, ah, you know, it's a copycat league. Certain things should be copied. The way Andy Reed handles training camp and preseason should be copied. The chiefs every year are sharper to start the year, then most of the rest of the league. Andy runs a tough training camp. They hit. They have long practices. And Patrick plays in the preseason.

And the starters play and they're ready to go. So I would copy that, all right? A lot, you know, Sean McVeigh, who I, you know, I think is the second best coach in football, does the exact opposite and has for years. puts guys on ice and, you know, that's that. So there's obviously not a perfect way to do it. I would copy Andy's. With that said, everyone is making this a Caleb story. Ben Johnson did not play.

They have four, left tackle is not determined yet for the Bears, starting left tackle. So they played everybody who's competing for that. There are other offensive line spots, left. guard, center, right guard, right tackle, we know who the starters are. Those guys played zero snaps. They're starting running back played zero snaps. They're starting tight end played zero snaps, and their three top receivers played zero snaps. If you are deciding institutionally, the starters aren't playing, then you obviously can't throw Caleb out there. Now I'm going to throw kale about there behind your second and third string offensive line and be like,

all right, figure it out, buddy. Now, like Drake May played, he threw five passes. I do think when you do it this way, it means preseason game two. Caleb should play a fair amount. And do I think that they are hiding Caleb? No. Do I think that Ben wants nothing but positive vibes headed into the season? And after using the training camp to kind of break guys down a bit,

he wants a little more time to build them back up before we, before people see them. I do think that. But do I think that there was that this decision was based on how Caleb has played thus far this training camp? I do not. And so. I think that he had made his decision on how he's going to play his guys this preseason, and he's trying to stick to it.

Now, we'll see how well that works, but I, you know, Colin had a great take on this, even though I disagreed with it, which is, let me read you the exact caption of it, because. I thought it was so funny. Hold on. And then there's a good Shams, little Shams note that I'm going to read you guys in a second as well. So here's what Colin said yesterday about Caleb. Gosh darn it. Sorry.

Oh, when tech companies delay the release, it's usually because you're still in the beta stage. Collins way of saying he's not ready for the bright lights. I think that is probably too harsh. And I think that I, but I do think that the first month of the season could be a little rocky. I do like the regular season. I don't think he's going to come off. I, you know, flying out of the gate.

Maybe you will. But I think that I believe in Caleb's talent. And I think Ben Johnson's very sharp offensive. And I think the Bears patched their holes on the offensive line. So I think they'll be fine. But I, uh, not doing their best to make it the most fine. He could possibly be. Well, I don't know about that.

I mean, again, he, he obviously wants them to be as good as possible, as early as possible. Maybe he's wrong, but he thinks that this is the right path. We'll see. Um, so, Shams just. tweeted. Whick Grusbeck will no longer stay on as governor of the Celtics as part of the Celtics $6.1 billion sale to Bill Chisholm. Plan had been for Grusbeck to remain through 2028. Chisholm assumes governor title and the transfer will be finalized soon. Guys, this is, Cuban sells the team and he's like, I'm going to run it though. And he's out immediately.

Gru Speck sells the team and it's like, no, but I'm going to run it for the next couple years. And he's out immediately. Jeannie Bus sold the team. And everyone's like, oh, but she's going to stay in charge for five years. We'll see. People tend not again. I am not a business psychologist and I don't run in billionaire circles. but in my limited experience people don't spend 10 11 figures on something to not be in charge of it it's just not

people don't buy a $60 video game to not play it they don't buy a $6 billion basketball team to let someone else make the decisions. And so I was skeptical when I saw Cuban say it years ago. I was even more skeptical when I saw what Grusbeck say it. And I am extra skeptical about Jeannie Bus running the Lakers for five years after all of this. For under two, though, two years. Oh, Damase. a look at this throw it on the screen oh my god packers quarterback jordan love is undergoing a procedure

on a ligament issue with his left thumb oh left thumb suffered the injury in green bay's preseason opener the team is hoping love can return to practice next week the packers expect to be ready for the regular season opener left thumb is not as much of a concern A surgery on the right thumb would be highly concerning. Here's the thing, though, as I've said before, I don't trust insider injury reports. Every surgery's out of schedule. Every body avoided disaster. Everyone's going to be ready week one.

I just, I have a hard time digesting it. Anybody seen Najee Harris? I saw a picture of Najee Harris. Looks like you can't open an eye. and so I I'm just no for real that picture of Najee Harris was scary looking looked like he really hurt his eye with the fireworks and so I just that I hope he's fine because last year got a little derailed is too strong last year got off to up he didn't have the year a lot of people thought he was going to have and a lot of people thought that was because he suffered that injury early on on.

All right, Damande, let's go to the listener questions. T.S., where do you think Alan Lamar rank all time, right? This moment, just as quarterback talents. I'd say both top 15 side question, are the smelling salts going to ruin your life? Smelling salts are not going to ruin my life, but, you know, strong recommend if people haven't tried him yet, especially if you're like maybe trying to kick caffeine or something. Like I haven't read into the potential downsides of Huffinamonia occasionally, but it sure woke me up. Where do Lamar and Allen rank just as quarterback talents?

What an interesting question. Top 15 sounds right. Like if I were ranking just core, just raw talent. Quarterbacks ever? That's what, yeah, that's what they're saying. Saying all time. Mahomes Rogers are, to me, the top two. Omar's got to be like top ten at least.

Same thing, but I feel like both those guys. Those are electric dudes as far as just talent. Like, not maybe not winning Super Bowl and stuff. No, yeah. Those are. Yeah, so I think safely. So raw talent, Mahomes Rogers

Farrve has to be up there Manning has to be up there It's a compliment to Brady That we're not even like saying him With all of his success Because you know He maximized everything about his physical ability Marino's got to be up there

I always have had a soft spot for Steve Young John Elway's up there And now we can start talking Lamar and Josh. You know what I mean? Like, so yeah, the, in that bottom part of the top 10 firmly in the top 15, I think that's right. All right, let's go to Ethan. Ethan asked as a poker expert who understands the principle of the plus EV, I'm curious if you take the same approach in the sports gambling or if you trust your own personal bias over Sharpbooks.

I don't look at, um, I don't look at sports betting the way I look at poker, just for the record. Like, I don't, I don't, while I do try every year to give out winners and to, you know, make you guys money, I, I am. A little bit more conservative with poker? Um, no, I don't know a bit. No, I just look at it like, poker, I am trying to make the, best decision at every point. Sports, I have a very hard time betting against my takes.

You know what I mean? I won't always bet on my takes, but like, I, it's why I'll never, even if I'm getting points, bet against the cheaps. You know what I mean? So like, there are just certain things that, so that's, but I also, I, and I, this is how would recommend it for other people. Look at sports betting as a recreational endeavor, not like, hey, this is how I'm going to make extra money.

Poker's different in that regard for me. All right, let's keep going. Michael asks, is Jackson better than Prime Vig? Yes. Love Mike, but yes. Lamar is a far already, a far better passer than Mike ever was. Just, you know what I mean? He just is.

And I love Mike, but that's, I think Mike would tell you. with that. Um, next. Indy, uh, Nick, do you think that everyone is just so skewed by fantasy football? Josh and Lamar have been excellent fantasy quarterback, so people assume that they are the best. Yeah, I think that absolutely is something to do with it. I absolutely think that the crazy fantasy numbers impact this, 100%. Um, uh, Noah. Yeah.

Noah, asked, when is the future show going to happen? It's like soon, like two weeks. Yeah, so we have a show Thursday. Then we're off for a week. And then our futures and our gambling show will probably be a two-part thing Tuesday and Thursday next week to get us ready for football season right in line with predictions week on first things first. And Diego says has snakes, enthusiasts Kevin Wilde's weighed in on Demandse's reptiles. That's a good first thing's first joke and I appreciate it. All right, remind it everyone, like, rate, subscribe, review, leave five stars, leave a review if you'd like.

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