The Joe Budden Podcast - After Thoughts | "Cut Off"

Episode Date: March 9, 2018

Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxVc9cfOkBA

I was asking y'all for afterthoughts. We didn't talk about J.R. Smith versus Damon Jones. And I guess that story was really interesting to me because I used to hang out in Miami at a time where the only people that were really big and doing it big were Big Meech and Damon Jones. That's what it seemed like to me. What I'm saying is if you were hanging out like in the clubs and whatever

year that was, boy, Damon Jones used to be icy. Well, explain to people that may not know who Damon Jones is. Damon Jones is a basketball player who used to play for the Miami Heat. This was on D. Wade's Heat before LeBron. This is that team.

Shaq, Dwayne, Wade. But I used to see Damon Jones all the time in Miami. This is when Fat Joe was out there. This is around that time. And Damon Jones used to always look great, have a great car and all that shit. I'll only even think about it because it's like, damn, that nigga's Damon Jones used to always look great, have a great car and all that shit. I'll only even think about it because it's like, damn, that nigga Damon Jones, I didn't think he was the illest player ever. And it reminded me of when the Knicks signed Jerome James

after he had that monster playoff run with Seattle. Knicks signed him some huge contract, and he was super trash, but every time you saw him in the new york club he was heavy he was living with two he had two girls he was he was he was he was he was very much so yeah this was before the lou will phenomenon but anyway so this is this is the uh miami that i was talking about right so that's why i thought this story was interesting why is damon why why is jr smith throwing soup at Damon Jones? What kind of soup was it?

That's the first question I asked. Was it fresh out of the kitchen? Like hot soup? I need to know what kind of soup he threw. You're not just throwing any kind of soup. A good soup, I'm keeping that. Well, why are you ordering soup in Miami? No, this was in Cleveland.

Oh, I'm getting soup in Cleveland. Damon Jones now is an assistant coach for Cleveland or something like that. I thought we were still in Miami. That's an odd choice. At a rehearsal. Well, I would be eating soup in Cleveland. Yeah, I like soup in the hot weather. In Cleveland.

Well, J.R. Smith might have been in the league when Damon Jones was still playing. Damon Jones is definitely far removed from the NBA. No, he might have been in China towards the end. I know. still playing damon jones probably no he might have been in china towards the end i know i i get that so i probably i mean damon jones is one of those he's uh uh he's one of those guys that he talks a lot of shit if you you know guys in the league tell you damon jones is legendary for shit talking but you know he was he's a cool he's one of those cool guys and he probably you know they probably got into it because Damon Jones is, you know, he has a slick mouth. He talk shit.

And they probably just got into some words and, you know, he just threw soup on them. More, more, more, more. And you know, he just threw soup on them. Yeah, we probably, I'm eating, we arguing, I throw the soup on you. That's where this conversation goes sideways a bit, and that's where I get a little confused. So help me walk through this. If you throw soup on me, that's the end of our friendship.

Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. And for you to throw soup, soup is hot. What foods would you allow to continue the friendship? Not soup and not grits. How do you feel about pancakes? What old singer was that that got caught up with the pot of grits? Al Green, I think.

Al Green. Yeah, I'm not playing them games after that Al Green story. Soup, you're going to throw a nice hot bowl of Campbell's on that? You're going to throw the nice microwavable Campbell's can was it like a tomato soup where were they they had practice he already sweating the nigga JR probably ran

the microwave the soup too yeah and you know how hot Campbell's soup is out the microwave it's not like regular hot soup what if it's oodles and noodles? Now the long ass noodles all drooling down your face. Those are paws. Those are sticky noodles too. Yeah, no, that's disrespectful.

They got to fight. That little one game suspension ain't doing it. I'm fighting a nigga that is throwing soup on me. Correct. Do they have a press release? That might be a... I don't know that might be

JL might have really gotten some real trouble for that though like if if Damon Jones decided to press because I think if you do that like

if we do that in the workplace with somebody like they can press charges you think hot soup carries a charge it does like there's been I think so

it carries a charge if you throw if you throw any any type of hot liquid on somebody... That would be the best deposition of all time. What? It would not be better than Lil Wayne's deposition. A deposition of J.R. Smith talking about throwing soup in someone's face?

That'd be up there, I guess, yeah. I'm sad that niggas took that moment to really look at J.R.'s greatest moments. He has a lot. Non-basketball related moments. They are a lot. I like the DM. You trying to get the pipe? Yes.

That's legendary. In his defense, though, they was going back with a lot of small talk that was getting nowhere. And it was like, all right, B. Are you trying to get the pipe or what? I'm not going to go back and forth about my game with you. And he got right to it. Didn't waste any time. Yeah.

So I'm going to ask y'all. I'll ask y'all a question since we can't figure out what soup J.R. Smith threw at Damon Jones' head. And I'd love to know if Damon Jones had a shape up when that happened. I know that means nothing in the story, but I just love to know if Damon Jones had a shape up when that happened I know that that means nothing in the story but I just want to know

but all for that I ask this question no it does when you have a shape up you wear some clothes that probably a little bit flashier than you typically would

and you kind of feeling good about yourself with a fresh with a fresh shape up confidence your walk is a little different that ain't really when I want

we just talking about Having the shape up Not being the best time To get soup thrown at your face Oh shit speaking of shape ups I think I broke up with my barber What Jose did Yeah man

That's a fucking sad story Jose? I like Jose What happened? As I eat more chips Hold up I'll tell you Maul Let me find Jose? I like Jose. What happened? As I eat more chips. Hold up, I'll tell you more. Let me find a... You have a breakup song for your barber?

Yeah. That's a big relationship, though. That's why I'm... That's not like a... That's why I'm bringing it up. See, we need a chip sponsor. No, that's the thing. Because that's a good chip.

Yeah, these niggas don't care. They own these chips, but... No, I'm listening. This is pretty important. I'm a good chip. Yeah, these niggas don't care. They on these chips, but this is pretty important. I'm listening. I'm listening to this story. Fuck the song. Though I would never want you and Sin to break up, but I would quickly ask what's up with the barber breakup before I would ask. I won't lie to you, man.

I saw myself leaving Sin before I left Jose. What happened? Le Bonier just refilled real quick. You know what happened, Maul? No, Joe. Well, before I get into what happened, because this is a serious thing, can I ask y'all what are some of the reasons

that you guys would break up with your barber? I can't think of much. It would have to be. He would have to have cheated, right? Yeah. It would have to be something.

Yo, I mean, other than me going to another barber and thinking that that barber is better than my current barber. But when does that ever happen with dudes? That don't happen.

Nah. It doesn't, but maybe if I go to the shop and I know I got seniority and he just putting like some- Putting a young brand of niggas in front of you. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah.

No, he getting snuffed and fired. This is a true story and not a troll because I just moved. I moved close by because my barber was there. I wasn't leaving the area of Jersey City I was in because my barber shop is there and I can't leave that area. I respect it. One day, right... Shout out to Rock.

Shout out to Rock. He's your Rock. He's my Rock. One day I went to see Jose and I was feeling sad. I was down and out. Let the music go for the story. Yeah, let me put it on.

He sided with envy. That's what this is about. Wow. This is a difficult moment for me, guys. Just bear with me. Take your time. All right, before he comes on. I went to Jose feeling really sad, right?

And I wasn't having the best day. I may have been depressed and suicidal. And I was really reliant on the feeling you get from a brand new, fresh haircut. I even may have gotten dressed pre-haircut so the haircut could be the finisher of the... And you could just go out. Hey, once this cut gets here, oh, this outfit's going to look totally different. I was doing that. So I got there feeling sad.

I hop in the chair. Jose puts on one of his custom capes on me. He's smiling, playing John Legend in the home, in Alexa. He clearly is in a great mood and great spirit, right? That's really important in my story. So he starts the haircut and he's talking to me

like we normally talk and I'm not looking in the mirror because I've only been going to you for 10 years. Right, you don't look in the mirror once you've been... Yeah, like I'm not looking in the mirror. I know what you're about to do.

I feel when you're doing something different oh hold up fan the blade don't be there with it i'm kind of judging you if you if your barber just don't know what you get when you sit down oh yeah you're a different type of weird guy like i sat down and jose's talking for an hour and long story less long at the end of the cut. I noticed that the two sides of my beard on my face were really, really uneven. They were like really bad, but that's not why I broke up with him because that can be fixed. I think it was the fact that I was really sad and he was really happy. And he didn't know that he fucked my beard up really bad and wears glasses. So now I'm looking at you wearing glasses in a good mood with a custom cape on me.

Like he stepped away from the chair after the cut was done and went to like do his own thing. Like he didn't even check. He didn't hand me the mirror. He ain't do nothing. He just knew that this was good. He flapped the cape. He flapped the cape on me and then just went to do what he was doing. And I had two different beards on my face.

And then he said Enjoy your weekend How? And I thought that he was In such a great mood That I wasn't willing To ruin his mood With how trash I thought That this beard was So I didn't

You're a good friend I just stopped calling him You're doing one of those Breakups? Who gave you that cut? The new dude. Tell us about the new guy. Okay.

All right. Now we're getting somewhere. So how do you like the new guy? And I put him on. Tell us. I like him. Are you going to see him again? Are you going to see him again?

You just perked up. I like him. Let me tell you. Is there another date coming? Yeah, I've seen him four times. Okay. I've seen him four times. Getting serious.

That's what I'm saying. He's been great every time so far. Right, right. He's been doing a real good job. I'm enjoying him. Okay. He talks a little too much for me. Well, you know.

He's one of those small talk barbers. Boy, that's the worst. He's one of those, hey, you see what the Yankees just did? Nigga, if you don't... Right. Jose, don't worry. He's gonna know what he had. No, but wait. So listen, that's not even the funny part. You gotta let him flirt for a little while

so you know. I'm running around with Ian the other day and fucking Jose calls my phone. Damn. I answered it. We're friends. We're friends. Damn. I answered it. Because we're friends. We're friends. It's been a while.

It's been 10 years. So you guys still want to remain friends? I answered it. You're still going to be cordial. Yeah. After we've spent so much time with somebody, you should still be able to be friends with them. Yeah.

So I answer the phone when Jose calls. And I could tell that Jose might today was a bad day it wasn't like a happy day like that other day this day he was like hey man I ain't seen you in a couple weeks because they know your haircut cycle

he said I could tell I see you got somebody else and I'll be honest with you I'm hurt like he was trying to have that talk with me. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Did you maybe put a new haircut on Instagram to try to show him that you had a new dude? Well, he definitely Instagrammed this shit up today. No, today I did, Rory.

Today I did. So, y'all public now? Well, no. Y'all public, like. Well, since you're asking me. You know Joe goes public pretty early. That's his style. Well, when he was giving me the cut, I flipped the camera around on my phone.

So already I felt a way. Already I felt a way because as a guy, when you got to hit the flip cam and look at yourself. So your father, he got tattoos in a rollie. When he was shaping you up, he saw the tattoos in a rollie. Wait, wait. That's what I'm saying saying so I flipped the camera around right and his face

was in it so I was like whoa I'm giving him too much I can't show Jose the face of my new barber right wait hold on

how does your new guy feel that you're still in contact with the ex he doesn't know with your ex barber I didn't tell him come on man I didn't tell him I didn't tell him. Come on, man.

I didn't tell him. I didn't tell him. So you just posted a video. That was your way of telling him. This is my new barber. You have no barber breakup etiquette. You got to at least tell your old barber. Flaunting the new razor.

Flaunting your new razor, your new clippers. He know his cape. He know that ain't his cape. Oh, shit. Wait a minute. Now that you say that. Oh, man. Does the new guy make you laugh?

The clippers that Jose. No, no, no, no. Jose is funnier than him. The clippers that Jose gave me, it was like eight years ago. I guess it was too much hair on them, and Jose wouldn't get them fixed for me. So I gave them to the new guy. You fixed them? I shaped them, fixed them right up, those bad boys, them all.

Oh, my God. Y'all swept you off your feet. Y'all go together. Y'all go together now. Now y'all go together. Hey, those clippers are the sharpest things ever, man. And then the new boy, he notices. He says, yo, I was going to make them sharper for you,

but I noticed someone else already did that. I was like, yeah, but don't even worry about him. Well, at least everyone's understanding. That's what it's all about. Yo, so yeah, you got a new barber. I like him. Do you like this cut? Wait, hold on.

It looks pretty good. When are you going to introduce him to us? What? I'm just saying. You're not looking at me, though. I'm trying to check it out. I'm okay. My beard is cool. Yeah, you smiling a little more and shit. You're not looking at me, though. I'm trying to check it out. I'm okay. My beard is cool.

Yeah, you smiling a little more and shit. You know what I mean? Word, I'm showing both profiles. I see what you're doing. Erickson, you want Erickson to get both sides? I'm showing both profiles. Word. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I see you. I see you. And your legs Is together Yeah Y'all so extra Your posture's different So when

You gonna introduce This guy to us Yeah I'm not When do we meet him No you're not Gonna get to meet him Oh okay

Alright That's the end of that Cause yeah You don't want him To get the wrong idea Too quickly So at the end Of my O.J. conversation

Are you still coming To O.W. tonight That's crazy Make sure you come by Bring whoever you want So at the end of my Jose conversation, are you still coming to Owa tonight? That's crazy. Make sure you come by. Bring whoever you want. Bring whoever you want. Bring whoever you want.

Yeah, so Jose, I love you. And go on, but not forgotten. The first time I met Jose, I went with you to the barbershop years and years and years ago. And I was just sitting. I was just with you. I think we was going to hit the streets after you got a haircut.

I had a haircut. Jose goes when that shit's done yo i ain't got time to cut your man i'm sitting there with a fresh cut like what the is my shit i'm looking in the mirror duke you needed a little cleanup i think i opened my phone and did the camera at myself like damn yeah you know what's funny about Jose in just this conversation period, though? Like, Jose's a great barber. But you know, like, when a coach could lose the locker room? Like, I think I lost him. Like, I think that I've been sitting in his chair so long that he just didn't give a fuck about what I had to say. So he was getting content.

He was getting comfortable. Yeah. Come on, man. I'm like, Jose, yo, this mustache is like flat. And then this other side is like, man, he ain't care. You always got to keep the relationship spicy, man. He should have bought a different hot towel treatment, something. He should have did.

That's what I'm saying. The new dude is putting some sea breeze. I mean, he's putting some shit on his hands like this yeah take some accountability joe joe winning maybe getting the same haircut all the time maybe not doing like the goatee or or keeping jose on his toes yeah you gotta keep the relationship spicy man you gotta spice up the relationship no that's true that's a good point i only didn't he gave me some fucked up beards before but you gotta try to you can't just fire your barber and not have the right barber on deck yeah that's true so i'm going i'm going to see my guy and my beard is looking a little way and chef john

comes strutting every morning with fucking salon face beard. I'm like, hey, man, who's your barber? You got to start asking people who their guy is. But anyway, shout out to Jose. I love you.