The Joe Budden Podcast - Episdoe 770 | "Mr. Plus 1"

Episode Date: October 26, 2024

The JBP kicks off the latest episode with questions for Ish after he was spotted courtside with Marc Lamont Hill at the Sixers & Bucks game earlier this week (22:25) before Joe discusses speaking at S...teve Stoute’s SelectCon NYC event (27:44). Lil Durk has been arrested over an alleged murder-for-hire plot as the room shares what information has been made available to the public (30:30) and the difficulty in podcasting about such stories (57:30). In new music, Summer Walker drops a new single ‘Heart Of A Woman’ (1:35:36), the crew debates if the Menendez Brothers should be granted parole (1:46:15), as well as whether Joe had any disagreements with Punch TDE’s tweet about Hip Hop Journalism (2:01:55). Also, **TRIGGER WARNING** a mother is suing an AI company over the death of her son (2:33:20), E. coli outbreaks (2:48:50), Part of the Show (3:03:19), and much more.  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden  Sleeper Picks:   Joe | Babyface & Muni Long - “The Recipe” Parks | REASON - “Whatever” Ish | Tailz. - “Free Time” Melyssa | Elmiene & BADBADNOTGOOD - “Marking My Time”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart. Or our own. Enjoy the show.
Starting point is 00:00:28 It's said that I can't live with you as a grown man. Nigga. Yo, y'all niggas just love y'all dads. That's all. I love it. Y'all love, no not you. You're stripper, you're loving it. You're loving it.
Starting point is 00:00:39 We've been around. Yeah, we ain't talking to you. We're talking to J-Wan and Ish. I don't even know what you niggas is talking about. Ish, yes. J-Wan did an interview. We interviewed his dad. Fire. He could not stop showing his teeth the whole time.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I was high. Like, with every story kids told, J-Wan, even the Diddy story, yo, I was at the puff party. J-Wan looking up just like a proud son. Yeah. Teeth wouldn't stop showing. Man, you had dimples. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:09 You had dimples in your face. You ain't look hard to me. You look like a proper student. You look like, yo, I love my dad so much, and he just wasn't around for me. Yeah, he wasn't around. And then he went and had more kids than he fucking held down.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Then he said that powerful on yeah Oh, and then he was about to cry you tried to see you tried to hit him. No, not you Well, yeah you when you try to not you well, yeah, yeah you you tried to hit him with the trick question But kids from the old school. Yo, what's your greatest gift? kiss it You know Get the fuck out of here with this trick, annoying ass question, you. Now, I love you, yo, goddamn.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I know you mad about some shit, bro. Stop it, that shit. No, we didn't, they had them already open. Yo, don't interrupt with the truth. You did, yeah, and on top of that. We don't give a fuck about something like that. We going with the laws? Yes, and on top of that, you ain't know he was gonna say that.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Did you know that you was his greatest gift? No, I thought he was gonna say something else. Exactly, nigga, we know that. Cause we saw you. Clap it up for J-Wan being Jay the Greatest Gift. When he said that, J-Wan. The Diddy party shit, I expected that. I started dying, I couldn't help that one.
Starting point is 00:02:17 When he said that, J-Wan, it looked like it was Christmas time for you, nigga. Like, you know when you're a kid and you get that big gift, you just look happy. That shit made me feel good. That was the big box. I'm like, yeah, Jay. Mami, ish. I don't know if you're the greatest gift. I that big gift, you just like happy. That shit made me feel good. That was the big one. I'm like, yeah, Jay. Mommy, it's shh.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I don't know if you're the greatest. I know I was the favorite child out of everybody. But I ain't even talking about the kids. I don't know if you're a greater gift than his rapping ability. Look. That's what you would have said. What's your greatest gift?
Starting point is 00:02:39 That's what you would have said. How you gonna tell nigga son that? No, that's what he would have said. I don't know. Jaylee, what's your greatest gift? So what's your greatest gift? So what's your greatest gift? I mean, my children. And when you have kids, you'll understand that there's dad answers.
Starting point is 00:02:54 When I ask my mom who her favorite kid is, she say, you for six months and you for six months. Yeah, my mom's good at it. That's the appropriate parent answer, but in real life, in their head. Whoever needs my love at that time. You gotta remember, he gotta say his children, because listen, Ed Trey has a history of dissing a nigga on record. And yo, Pops.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And he getting nicer with the band. I'm not your favorite. He getting nicer with the band. Well, that's not fair. I started dissing him on records first, and his mama. That's some cheap shit. So that's not fair. I didn't know that, Joe.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I'm sorry. So I think that he should be able to clap back. Because some of my haters be like, oh, his son's been dissing him forever. Well, my son got the clap back gene in him like his dad, and I'm proud of that. Facts. Yeah. Facts. It's fucked up when you're writing those songs about their parent, like when they grow up
Starting point is 00:03:43 and get to hear the songs. Yeah, but now you know what's going on now. Yeah. You know, you're 23, you know what time it is. You in the game, you being targeted. You being targeted out there. You having your woman woes. I love when they experience what we experiencing. Oh yes.
Starting point is 00:03:58 What? That's bad. Yes. Oh man. I love it. Why is that bad? Because. Thanks, man. I like it. Why is that bad? Because. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Give us some game. I remember that happened to me in my relationship in college. I have on pops like on some Trey Joe shit, like, yo bro, why you even tell me you should get like that? Nigga ain't even respond. I said, wow. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I mean, I feel like there's information and you know, that you can pass down to your kids. But then there's other things that they just have to experience. You know, bump their heads up on the wall and check like that. They ain't gonna listen to you anyway until they go through. Exactly, that too.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Hey, I wanna ask you, since we're talking about dads, I wanna ask you a question. You love your dad too, nigga. Yeah. Who said I did? Did you ever have a conversation with your dad? Like, were you one of them niggas that- I lived with my father before. Yeah, but as a grown man, you said.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I lived with my father as a grown up. Yeah, did you have a conversation with him, like, yo nigga, what's up? Like, were you one of them niggas that, were you like, what happened, what went wrong, or you just left it as it is and you lived in the moment? Yeah, I ain't really go through all that. Because he was...
Starting point is 00:04:54 You didn't do that, you didn't go back. Oh, you lived in the moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. He was short. I wasn't. That might be a short one. You said that you was 5'1", until you caught your growth spurt.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I was 5'3", in 12th grade. That's very small. But when I lived with my father, I was grown. That's not tall enough to bucket your dad. You was that height in your graduation picture? You think 5'3", is tall enough to bucket your dad, for real? No. Yeah, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:05:18 That's like your daughter height. But this nigga, you so- You know why you're so gay? You know what it is? You so macho that, nigga, you didn't even have a conversation with your pops at a moment of vulnerability, nigga. That's how macho you are, nigga. Let's live in the moment, nigga.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Go cook. I'ma cook some food. I just got shot pops. I don't wanna talk about none of that emotional shit, nigga. Let's live and have fun. Did he check on you? Like, yo, you there? You know when a nigga come in from work, knock on the door of your room.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah, I was 20 something years old, my nigga. What that mean, Ish? My door shut, I'm near. What you talking about. Yeah, I was 20 something years old, my nigga. What that mean, Ish? If my door shut, I'm near. What you talking about? Yo, you there? No, nigga, go sleep. I'm good. That don't mean you there,
Starting point is 00:05:50 that your door's closed. Are you talking about when he got shot? No, I'm just saying, like, usually, even as an adult, if you live with, with my experience, if you live with your parent, your parent will come, when they come in the house, they'll check on you. Yo, what's up?
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yo, you there? You in the room and shit like that? I'm asking him if he experienced that. He said his dad's door was closed. Yo, what's up? Yo, you there? You in the room and shit like that? I asked him if he experienced that. He said his dad's door was closed. No, my door was closed. If my door closed, nigga, I'm gonna sleep. I'm sleeping.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Did you knock? On what? On your dad's door. Stop. You get tight, stop. I'm not gonna get tight. He'll curse us out. He's a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Because him and J-Wan wanna see it with the truth today. I don't care about what they talking about. I care about what I like to party. Yo, daddy, are you there? Yeah, I can't. I I can't snitch, but you can tell them niggas. He made a left and a right. I can't snitch, but you can tell them niggas. Your pops are going to pull these laws. Yo, we doing it for the dads today. That's the issue, man. Oh shit, oh shit. My bad.
Starting point is 00:06:59 You too. You love your dad. Shout him out. Yes, of course. I love my father. Your father passed away when she was young though. She still got a rep, what that mean? No, she said he was her hero.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Cone head. She said that until she learned some things she said. Yes, but I still love the memory of the man, very much so. Right there, we can't play with that. Shout out for you standing there. Leave it alone. Let's bring the joke back that way. You go over to here. You can already hear it.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Grab it up. Anyway, back to you. All right, glad you're all in a good mood. Brother Freeze is not with us today, but he's here in spirit. Always. Hopefully he's good. Ice, we love you if you're listening. Yo, Mel, just that fast. You heard it.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It was sweet. She was about to cry with us. I wasn't gonna cry. She was about to cry with us like we was poor minds. I swear I wasn't gonna cry. She cried on the show? Yeah, she cried. She cried on Poor Minds.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Shout out to Lex, shout out to Dre. Lex Dre, what up, baby? We were all crying, okay? We were all crying. Based off your story? Well, no, shared experiences. You've been doing some serious shit. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. to Lex, shout out to Dreya. Lex Dreya, what up, baby? We were all crying, OK? We were all crying. Based off your story? Well, no, shared experiences. Well, you've been doing some sad pot. We'll be doing some pot. We'll be doing some pot.
Starting point is 00:08:12 You look like Eddie. Let me just say this, and I love you. Shut up, Cory. Let me say, if pot and bottle is going to be like that, count me out. Please, don't fuck with me. I want to come up there. I want to come up there.
Starting point is 00:08:24 OK, OK, and guess what? And guess what? When Wifey starts going through Menopause and you don't know what the fuck is going on, check in, you are going to be checking in with Hot and Bothered. My mother called me this morning about you, I'm gonna need you, I'm gonna come up there. Nobody cares about when Wifey is going through.
Starting point is 00:08:40 We know you don't. We are financially manipulating our wives. Nigga, you think niggas care? They gotta worry about their bills being paid and trying to get jobs and MTAs and whatever they got in Houston. Yeah, I'm sick of that, Lionel. Would you like it if I did the same? That's just a fuck up.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Fuck up. Do it then. Why? I don't want to do it. What the fuck are you talking about? To be honest, I wouldn't mind if you was paying all my bills. I'm good. That was ish. That was ish.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Everything? Okay, rock out. That pin on your bills come with some stipulations and people don't want to accept it. And dude, it's rules. It's rules. If I'm n***a paying $15,000 a month in bills for you, n***a, this rules. N***a, I want shit. I want shit.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. I want shit. stipulation
Starting point is 00:09:45 To highlight and I'm glad that I didn't highlight Ass If your bills are being paid to the degree of all of them 15 20 grand a month. Yes, talk about a joke. There is fine print on that contract. There is. You need to take that to your attorney or your girlfriend. Who don't got that. And then get it together. Now we can't say that somehow because femininism. I can't even say the word. What's the word? Feminism? Feminism. Femininity? Femininity? Femininity. Stupid ass word. Got a stutter built in.
Starting point is 00:10:29 He's right. He's right, Mel? Mel, you know he's right, Mel. Mel, when a nigga paid your bills, you almost went into a cult. Nigga, you was down. When a nigga paid your bills, you was down with the cause. Bitches need to follow your rules. Follow your movement. Give me pounds. Mel was definitely in the cold. I can see it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 She was in the cold. Now she come up here to rebrand. Yeah. Now she come up here and talk about Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh And Quincy is the king. Quincy is the king. The Christ the Lord. Yeah. That's your end. Now she want to come up here and talk about menopause.
Starting point is 00:11:13 No, it's the niggas who are preaching the house, nigga. She was in. We don't want to hear about menopause. We want to hear about the sex cult. We want to hear about that. Oh, shit. When you was in the mountains of Utah. Another story for another day.
Starting point is 00:11:26 She would never tell. That's why niggas love you. That's why she's the best. That's why she can make U-turns. That's why she's the best. A lot of women can't U-turn like Mel. Unless they, I can't say that part. But Mel make U-turns because she hold it down.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Like when they bump into her like, oh you ain't blow me up about that cult shit. Even though I was wild ass. Even when I press the nigga, the nigga say, I love her. I said damn, she cool like that. You blow me up about that culture You held it down about that culture I'd be holding it down on some fucked up shit You do man you do Yo Shout out to the woman out there that hold it down about the cult. The other women get offended when we say that
Starting point is 00:12:06 because you're not supposed to say that. Yeah, they saying that, yeah. You're not supposed to say that, that's horrible. Yo, male is your J1 boy. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, What? I think it went to the bathroom man. He said that the first time it went to the bathroom. Alright we got a great show lined up for y'all maybe. Maybe. Uh. What's a lot of shit going on?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Let's start with some Randy's comedy man. Oh oops. Oh! I can- Hey hold up that's Randy coming out the pawn shop without his chains and his watches? Oh he done sold them shits! He's broke! Ha ha! He's broke! Ha ha!
Starting point is 00:12:45 He's popped again, ha! Yo, Brokey, I mean, yo, Randy, what's up? Yo, what up, yo? Yo, what happened, Mr. Money Man? You coming to Oscar Stone Pay Me Now? Where your chains at, blood? Nah, I just, um, I just had them hold it for me for a second.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Hold it? Hold it? Bro, what? You mean you let them have it, cause you broke now? Now you can't flex, right? I needed some extra cash! Oh, that's powerful! You mean you let them have it cuz you broke now now you can't flex right? I needed some extra cash. Oh 30 bands both 30 bands. It's worth it. Nah gang. I just clock your tea you really pop right now
Starting point is 00:13:22 We was waiting for this yeah, I was waiting for me to go broke Yeah, we was you stay showing off the bitches stay gravitate towards you now that I could cover my you no more now. I think is nothing I'll pray you up to them 30 bands Mac and I'm not letting you borrow nothing, bro It's gonna be a cold winter. Yo, yo, yo, what the fuck poppin man to drama kick, man. Yo, who that? Who that? Who that? Fuckers. Ooh, Breast and Beats can't stand. Always. And damn. My chick 121212. That's the sound of the man prepping that thing.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Waking up out there. Waking up out there. Yo, tomorrow we was taught not to say who shot you. Yeah. Shit flash, heard the shot, you feel it burnin', I got you. Uh-huh. Said, pray for me if you care for me, cause I'm on the edge. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I rock a lot of ice, I dare you to scheme on me. The fifth got a rubber grip and a beam on me. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head. I'm finna pull a shell in a nigga's head. I'm finna put a shell in a nigga head I rock a lot of ice, I dare you to scheme on me The fifth got a rubber grip and a beam on me
Starting point is 00:14:10 Homie they took the hit on me, couldn't shoot They say I'm skinny now, but I look big in the coupe My cousin Uzi out in L.A. Queenz what up 50 what up I shot the fuck up, turned up, and won't make it I write my lifestyle, yo niggas is cheaters Your lines come from feds, fellas and don'ts You roll you the black hand of death
Starting point is 00:14:27 Then why your name ain't preacher? You a pamphlet stank, or the Ozone treat So you wanna ball like Kirkman? Always for the ladies, always for the ladies Problem chat, I'm familiar with problems I know how to solve them Semi-automatic or your trade revolve them Shoot them off problem, In the hope you're starving
Starting point is 00:14:45 You don't want problems, promise y'all Why can't you be mad enough To tell me where you're coming from Why can't you be mad enough Why can't you be mad enough Why can't you be mad enough Why can't you be mad enough Can't really figure this clown out You checkin' this town, call this one brother child I shot some of the G-Rod in, to the Mario So keep creditin' me Yo, can't really figure this clown out
Starting point is 00:15:09 Where is he from? Jamaica, Queens, Cali or down south? Not gonna let a L.A. gun hit him A great street already told me you payin' to run with him I could let a New York knife poke him with one of my throwaways But I don't wanna see no cop smokin' Somebody tell Paul we ridin' Get ready to auction off a car you dyin' Whenever we bump heads, since you like havin' people with you
Starting point is 00:15:31 Get you a hospital with bunk beds Without Dr. Dre, you would just make slow jams Come up outta that witness protection program Oh, don't really respect you, gettin' your place If Big was alive, he'da probably spit in your face Now you been doin' just fine without you Ask was alive, he'da probably spit in your face Nah, I've been doing just fine without you Ask him, I probably woulda made an album about you So I guess that just leaves me here to get rid of you
Starting point is 00:15:52 And rock him and them, they don't even consider you And know you ain't got nothing for Jada And I know he appreciates all the money you made him It's 2005, nobody fights fair I just know an instrumental's your worst nightmare But you tough and you bad, too bad, you mad Probably been in your old hood more than you have Yeah, you sold more records than me
Starting point is 00:16:12 But in the streets you can always be second to me We was damn near feelin' you Even though your career is based on somebody damn near killin' you Shit you be doin' and even consider rappin' to us This is probably the best thing that happened to us The best wankster, internet gangster Magazine monster, shit on your whole roster If I need to say Hail Mary's and All Fathers
Starting point is 00:16:34 Get out your black suits and hard bottoms Ha ha, don't worry I got em We ain't a problem child, just a child with a problem And why can't you tell me? Problem child with a problem Yeah! This is what the fuck is going on here! This is wicked! Damn me! Stay down baby, we can't rest! This ain't gonna make it! Hey! Shout out to everybody outside this wicked!
Starting point is 00:17:11 Hey you on the concrete! Everybody's rambling, everybody! Motherfucker! Hey! Queen! Hey! Alright, nigga! Hold your hands up!
Starting point is 00:17:20 Fuck! Yeah, how we playin' this? What up, what up, what up, what up? Sit down, let's do this! Yeah, we playin' this! What's up, nigga? I'm a man, but they hard to go Now you could be a victim But you could not go 42, so the dust net ain't my wall Hold me a second, I'ma holla I'ma say what's up I got my face in my hand Got my pistol in the trunk I'm popping ass up nice
Starting point is 00:17:34 Baby, you lucky in my hood Niggas got love for me But I don't go nowhere without my strap In my hood A little throw, a little head to see it Niggas just don't know how to act In my hood Niggas ain't crying me I'm in a good mood, goodbye, I'm in a good mood You know feeling good feeling great Good move I'm in a good mood good vibes Violent music for a bright-ass
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yo, and I know they cost some money I'm gonna look like a thousand dollar fresh N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n- Both. Wait, it's twins! Ah! You hop out of cake, nigga, you lit. $500,000. Microphone check. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, what episode is this? 770. Welcome to episode 770 of the Joe Budden podcast, brought to you by Fuel, by Power, by PrizePix.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, with some really amazing people to my right. Big Melissa Ford is in the building. Queen's Flip is in the building. Isha's in the building. J-Wan is in the building. Parks is in the building. Poe is in the building.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tanner are here by remote and last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you are out there. Now, back to my gender reveal, Alvin. I wore this to- Daisy Age, your De La Soul shirt.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Word. Three. I wore this to Girls Love Karaoke the other night. I heard you. I heard you. Dressed like a little nancy in a room. Let me see your socks. I heard you was in there and I heard it was all right.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah, I heard you. Let me see your socks. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's definitely what that is. What type of socks is that, nigga? Tough girl. Mm.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Tough girl socks. Nigga ain't the brand. I was a karaoke. What did you say? Girls love karaoke. Shout to Maddie, of course. Shout to AG, Finesse. Girls love karaoke.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It was night. Hey, hey. And they do. They do. They absolutely do. And they do. They do and they do they do so yeah with a real good time over there I got there early I got there at about I want to say 1030 my guy Monty met me over there shout to eat oh yeah did a duet
Starting point is 00:20:17 yeah yeah yeah nice crowd nice crowd on the early vibe shout to all damn who what who's the DJ killing that shit? Who was it? First class? First choice, I think. First choice. First choice. First class. I'm old school. Shout out to First Choice. He was absolutely, and shout out to First Class. But he was smoking, you know, people are still coming in, R&B set, like a real R&B party set. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:41 So I was in absolute heaven for a few hours a lot of girls kept coming in here But then you cut a rug. I didn't know I didn't cut a rug. I sat there like the G did I be? And no I left before anybody's are saying wow I was sitting there And I hadn't taken the old nigga nap And I hadn't taken the old nigga nap. I hadn't taken a nap, you guys. Why don't you just go hit the... Yo, 44 is fucking me up. Why don't you just go hit the truck for a little quick 30.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah. Can't eat the same. Cause I don't have to live like that today. Go in the truck, take a nap and then go back out. Like I'm never that thirsty for the party. So I'm sitting there, I'm getting tired. I'm hungry. I'm never that thirsty for the party. So I'm sitting there, I'm getting tired, I'm hungry. I'm hungry, I'm sitting there battling the discipline
Starting point is 00:21:29 to eat after 10 p.m., 11 p.m. So I left, I went home, went to bed. Didn't hit a strip club, didn't see Bernice sing, didn't see nobody sing a thing. Damn. See, was there when Tiana came in, shout out to Tiana Taylor, good crowd in there, good vibe, Davies, everybody. But yeah, I'm going to bed.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I'm going to bed. I see that's one of them things I got to come to at midnight. Probably. I got to come here late. Yeah, it's New York. But really good crowd in there. Just real nice time. Look like it.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Real nice time. Real nice time in there. Nice. good crowd in there. Just real nice time. Look like it. Real nice time. Real nice time in there. Yeah. Nice. You look like it. Why you keep making that little stupid face? No, just it looked like it. You had fun.
Starting point is 00:22:13 No, a couple people hit me. It was like, yo, I seen Joe come in. Why you with Joe? I was like, oh. Was that the? No, no, no. I was like, just did you tell him you don't be with Joe? Like why are people?
Starting point is 00:22:22 He was at the game. It was at the day that you went to the game with mark. Oh shit floor seat. I thought that that was AI The picture it was floating around Antoine ish is AI and initials when you break it down. No, for real. So why you gonna let her get that shot? Let me ask you a question. How did that happen?
Starting point is 00:22:55 What? How did you end up? The basketball date. Yeah, the basketball, the bromance. The bro vision, how did it happen? Done, Mark hit me. He's like, yo, what you doing? I'm like, shit, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:23:07 He said, yo, I got tickets to the game, you wanna go to the game? I was like, who they playing? He said the Bucks, I'm like, hell yeah. So you drove down there? Yeah. So you went to the game, but you spilled coffee on my clothes in your car when you dropped me home. And you put my shit in the cleaners and you didn't, but you on the floor at a game, nigga.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I got you. On ESPN. On ESPN. And you look good. Thank you. I didn't like that. Don't thank me. I wasn't happy.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I'm trying to get up. I was hating on these two stupid niggas. I was hating on y'all niggas. Look at these fools, nigga. They sent me the picture. I'm like, aw, come on, Ish. You didn't even invite nobody, neither. Well, he was the best one. Yeah, I was about to say, I'm going to invite somebody. I'm getting out of here. I'm getting out of here. I'm getting, come on, Ish. You didn't invite nobody, neither. Well, he was the best one.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah, I was about to say, I'm going to invite somebody. That's the problem. Everybody invites you places, but you don't invite anybody. It's a pattern. That's your bag. That's how you get away with shit. Yo, I was invited. Why you didn't invite me?
Starting point is 00:23:56 I'm a plus one. That's your shit. You missed a plus one. There you go. No, nigga, make me your plus one. All right. You ashamed of us. Yo, make me your plus one.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Ugh. You missed it. I got you. go. No, make me your plus one. All right, I'm gonna... You're ashamed of us. Yo, make me your plus one. You missed a... I got you. And it speaks volumes that people prefer you to be their plus one. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I know what you do. You do that stupid lip trick. Yeah. You was doing that on the course? Yeah, you did that on the course. Sitting there talking a hole in Marc Lamont. Eww. No, not a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yo, fuck off. Fuck off. Y the fuck up. It was Mark Lamont. Yes. Y'all had a super bro mass after that. Yeah, I knew what I said. Holy shit. Y'all were really twitted. They bonded. Yeah, that's stupid, yo.
Starting point is 00:24:33 No, the game was a runaway. It wasn't really close. So we were just kicking it. Like the game wasn't fun. It wasn't, you know what I'm saying? Cause it wasn't close. They was losing by down to 20 half the game. You talking about Philly was losing? Yeah. what do you talk about at a game like that?
Starting point is 00:24:47 They're pod really basketball shit for the most part on the court while a game is going on you Analyzing yeah, that's literally what was going on. I got nigga not that good you overrated. Yo Again a league is overrated or not. I watched the game Catch a vibe courts court side look cool. I hate Joe Lee. Why you can't just look. I hate him too. Nah, just look cool.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Nigga, the cameras is about to pan your way. I didn't even know the game was on ESPN or none of that. I didn't know that. Superstar-ish. Did you know it was the season opener? Yeah, but I didn't know that. I mean, well, Philly Bucks would be. Two of the biggest teams.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah, Philly Bucks would be televised but I wasn't thinking about that. Did you see Stephen A right there? No. I'm joking. I ain't saying. But it's cool. Stupid.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Did Stephen A see you? I don't know. Stephen A was there? I don't know. I ain't seen your game, nigga. You think I seen you on my TV? I don't know, nigga. I seen you on Reddit.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I only seen you on Twitter. I seen you on Reddit, nigga. You think I seen you on my TV? Stay off the know, nigga. I seen you on Reddit. I seen you on Reddit, nigga. That's how I see you on my TV. Stay off the internet, y'all. See you on Reddit. You looking good, though. You look good up there. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I appreciate it. You running into a lot of fans? Yeah, a couple. A couple. Okay. Philly is. I didn't know you and Mark was that close. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:25:57 When y'all exchange numbers. When y'all exchange phone numbers. Yo, dog, what's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's close? It's cool. Huh?
Starting point is 00:26:05 When y'all exchanged numbers. When y'all exchanged phone numbers. Yo dog, what's wrong with you, son? It's a valid question. Why is it valid? Cause Joe said it. That conversation looked deep as hell. Cause the only reason we didn't congratulate you
Starting point is 00:26:18 when he announced you on the pod was. It wasn't personal. That is what he was saying for pod shit tips. Yo, Nas, you really agree, you great helped all of us on camera. Don't argue with the community, they just gonna hate you. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna give them some pod tips while the game is on. The game is playing, bro. I didn't know we was on TV.
Starting point is 00:26:43 He didn't stay for Patreon, nigga, so we don't know when the numbers swing. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna get down to the bottom of this shit, that little bromance you had going on. I told y'all, I told y'all. Oh, Mark is here on Wednesdays. One day off for everybody. Wednesdays? For a month.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, well, Tuesdays. Tuesdays, but Wednesdays, pot. That's it. But nothing to figure out. Nothing to figure out. Everything is cool. I'm good. I got three days off.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I'm fine. I'm fine. Look, look. She don't like that shit. Hey, yo. Your girl. What did I do now? You know what you did. She don't like that shit. Hey, yo, hmm. Yo, girl. What did I do now?
Starting point is 00:27:27 You know what you did. I swear I don't. You texting me, you trying to press me this week. Oh, nigga, I'm done with y'all. I'm done with y'all. Got it. No, it's nothing bad, nothing bad. Got you.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah, it's all love. All right. No, it's all love. And then I went to speak to Steve Stout, uh, shit. So I was at the other day that was. I saw a little snippet, bud. Saw you up there shining. What do you mean shining?
Starting point is 00:27:53 That, the lights was bright. I bet. Oh, he had it all out? What, what? Like titties. You want to? You want to? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:00 He had it all out. I don't want to change his line. You wore the ring? Yeah. He wore the ring, he. He wore the ring. He pulled the sleeves off so they could see it. You know, because you know, I got nigga brain. You know, I got my gut.
Starting point is 00:28:11 My gut tell me what to do. You know what I mean? I'm be in these rooms and the money, you know what I'm saying? Be all over. I heard your corny joke. It be all over the place. You know, my gut, you know, I got to rule with the gut. I come from the nigga streets outside the streets.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You be watching my clips. You be watching my clips from the gallery, nigga. You're stupid. I had a good time. I don't normally speak on those types of panels and things of that nature, but Steve called his favor. And he had a good time. That's my man. I showed up. Had a good time.
Starting point is 00:28:41 A lot of people there. Was it just you and Steve on the panel or no? It was just him and I that spoke at that time gotcha think he spoke to 50 I think he spoke to can't all cam clip to I think I saw a cam clip. I saw a 50 clip But and the ride in the Brooklyn wasn't so bad it was an hour, but it was an hour in motion You took that scenic route. We were talking about the party It was in Brooklyn it was at the office. It was in Brooklyn the party? No, I'm not in Brooklyn. It was at their office? Yeah, it was in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It was in Brooklyn. I don't know whose office. I don't know. I get the address, I give it to the driver, I go. But there was no traffic. Rich shit. So that was smooth. Dumb of us. Stupid us. And I went to the Black Owned restaurant over here that Mel gave the review on.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Which one? On that other part. I'm not going to say, but the one that Mel spoke about. Oh yeah. It was good? And that was cool. Yeah, that was real nice too. This?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yeah, some paella, it was good. Oh, that was that big ass paella. Yes. That shit was huge, pause. Yeah, it was good though. Did you bump into anybody at the Steve's Town event? No. It was crowded?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah, there was a lot of people in there. Gotcha. How would I bump into somebody? I don't do communal green rooms. I thought you did, I'm sorry. I do those things, never that. It's two people. It's a peasantry firm.
Starting point is 00:30:00 In a communal green room. Think that's how I got punched in the face. Yeah. I'm one of them fucking communal green, anybody just walk's how I got punched in the face. I didn't say I wanted a fucking communal green room. Anybody just walk in the door, hey, there you go. There you go. Yo, you had said. Yeah, I ain't. Stupid, yo.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Communal green room is exactly where they want to come talk about what I said on the part. Never that. Oh, no, but good times. Chow's a Steve Stout, man. Fun, fun, fun. All right. Let's get right to it. Let's get right to it.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Where would you guys like to begin? Dirk? Yes. Okay. So we start with Dirk. The fed snatched Dirk or the marshal, the US marshals snatched Dirk. In Broward County. That's Florida, right?
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yes. Broward County. Broward, yes. Dirk or the marshal the US marshals and snatched in Bower County that's Florida right now Broward Broward guess yeah y'all know any holes over there probably y'all definitely know some Broward County County homes for sure possibly they need a segment on a patreon shout to y'all out there? Embraer County? Yeah. Special? Yeah. Better than Dade? Different from Dade.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Different from Dade. What cities are Embraer? It's all Miami I think. Oh is it? That's the, ain't that like the south end of it? I don't know. It's a way. South of the loop.
Starting point is 00:31:19 That's where Kodak from. It's down there. Exactly. Kodak from. So it makes sense. Just take Kodak and Dade. Exactly. It's down from. It's down there. Exactly. Kodak from. So it makes sense. Just take Kodak and then they- Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:27 This is down there. But anyway, so they snatched him in Florida along with five other people. That's Chicago, yes. That are from Chicago. And this is Murder for Hire. This is sad. That's his charge. That's the allegations here.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Supposedly he organized a hit. Yeah. On the... said that's his charge. Yeah, that's supposedly he organized a hit. Yeah. On and they're saying that this goes back to when King Von was life was killed. One of Quando Rondo's and in and in the car. Yeah, Quando Rondo's man died with him in LA, right, during that shootout. So the feds are saying that plane tickets and rental cars or whatever were purchased and rented through OTF cards.
Starting point is 00:32:17 They're saying they have more information about who paid for this murder fire, but they haven't released that yet. All signs are pointing to, they're gonna try to pin this on Dirk. That's what I got for you. If that's blurry, then Google it. I'm not here to be a journalist.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I'm here to talk about the real aspect of it, which is just what the fuck? What the fuck? I feel like, you know, with respect to Dirk, I feel like he knew something was coming because during his birthday he paid homage to all the fallen soldiers in Chicago. I mean, he's been trying to really change up the image and the whole Chicago drill dissing ops. He put everybody on the screen on his birthday. He did a birthday concert in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And even the people, I mean, everybody was on that picture. He had the ops up there? Yeah. Everybody just paying respects to all the fallen soldiers. And in retrospect, when I think about it, it's like I felt like he knew something was coming. And he just wanted to distance himself from that, whether they were investigating, whether he got wind that they were looking into things,
Starting point is 00:33:28 just think he wanted to move himself from that and portray a cleaner image. Oh, he probably felt that inside. He probably felt inside that it's time for me to get away from that because too many people are dying. Because they've been through a lot. You know what I'm saying? It could be true what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I think also when you get removed from the jungle, you know what I'm saying? Like you lose some of that. And then, you know, when you start getting a certain type of paper, cause I'm sure he's far removed from the hustling hustling days, you know what I'm saying? So, and then you start surrounding yourself
Starting point is 00:34:00 with some more positive people. I'm sure some of the OGs talking to them, you know what I'm saying? You start seeing that this shit is self-destructive for us as a people. You know what I mean? So you start trying to pivot away from that and kinda you owe it to yourself
Starting point is 00:34:12 to instill some shit in some younger people. You know what I'm saying? So they don't make the same mistakes you made. So I think that's where he, like I've heard him talk a couple of times. That's the type of time he was on supposedly. He lost a lot of people in his life. Yeah. And unfortunately, when you're around these people, we've been around him a lot on supposedly. He lost a lot of people in his life. Yeah. Unfortunately, when you're around these people,
Starting point is 00:34:26 we've been around him a lot of times. He's a nice guy. And sometimes our environment makes us who we are. That's true. Our environment, we're trying to get away from that. You'd be surprised how these people who lose so much people and seen so much in their life when you just have a conversation, they're just like you and I.
Starting point is 00:34:43 You know what I mean? And sometimes environment, circumstances and whatever. The jungle. Just the jungle. You in the jungle. Make you who you are. You're going to be a wolf, you're going to be a lion that's surviving the jungle, but once you're removed, you might become a, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:57 Just a regular standup citizen, I think that they might, a lot of us, you know what I'm saying? Kids grow up in an inner city like that on some survival instinctive shit, and then when you get removed, you change your tone. And it's hard to talk about, for me, it's just hard to talk about these things, but it's not hard, even if you have a relationship because you don't know who you're affecting on the other side.
Starting point is 00:35:17 So you have to be mindful in... when people have accusations against them and how you speak about them. I can speak from personal relationships, but I don't wanna take away from anyone who may have suffered or feel that they allegedly suffered from the situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'm tired of seeing up and coming rappers either lose their lives or get incarcerated to shit like this. And I'm tired of seeing all the, I saw J-Wan tweeting earlier and I see people responding to it. And it it's like why does everyone know so much about it about it and that was one thing like like this should not be happening a and if it is happening it shouldn't be public information on the internet that
Starting point is 00:35:56 everybody's talking about like sports center it's fucking weird yeah yeah that's the part of it I don't like like it's no reason we should know so much before the case is even over even would it be in public and people making whole videos it makes it like it's in the name of content I don't think problems like this should be made in the name of content like you feel me like that's almost cop work that's like we we all come from where we come from we see niggas saying your bride we ain't talking about that right now you feel me wait till it almost cop work. That's like we all come from where we come from. We see niggas saying,
Starting point is 00:36:25 yo, bro, we ain't talking about that right now. You feel me? Wait till it happen. Then we talk about it. But you got poindexters and nerds on social media just talking about it from a standpoint. And then you got people who's just looking at it like, fuck him, throw away the key. And some people may feel like that. But then it's also looking at it from a standpoint of like like he's lost people They've lost people to just think now. They got the money forget all about is like It takes the human side out of it like money shit isn't gonna make somebody forget about all the friends and family members They lost and no longer grieve. You can't tell a person how to grieve just because they got money
Starting point is 00:37:05 No You can't tell a person how to grieve just because they got money. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mel? What? She on your time, man. She's... You mean what? She be outside, nigga. She trying to think. I am not outside.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I'm just... I was just asking what you thought of everything. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with her. Yeah. She was thinking about Ariana Grande, nigga. I am not thinking about Ariana Grande.
Starting point is 00:37:21 She was thinking about Ariana Grande. I am not thinking about Ariana Grande. I am not thinking about Ariana Grande. I am not thinking about Ariana Grande. I am not thinking about Ariana Grande. I am not thinking about Ariana Grande. I am not thinking about Ariana Grande. I am not thinking about Ariana Grande. I'm just asking what you thought of everything. Yeah, yeah. I'm with you, yeah. Yeah. You think about Ariana Grande. I'm not thinking about Ariana Grande.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I'm not thinking about Ariana Grande. I'm thinking that you guys hit the nail on the head. Parks' observation and Jaewon's observation is correct. Like, the fact that this is fodder for everybody to talk about before all the facts are out, it's just, this isn't, we have created this atmosphere in which content is everything and it really actually isn't because so many of the facts get mixed up in fiction
Starting point is 00:37:52 and it just kind of dilutes the whole situation. So that's just my perspective on it. It's by design though, right? Like we have to acknowledge that. Facts. It's by design. These drama filled crimes. Hey, crimes. I'ma kill you. Hey, Freeze.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I'ma kill you, boy. Yo. Yo. Hey, Freeze, when you make it to work, I'ma kick your ass. It's so stupid. I got a trick for these niggas. Now.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Ooh, those are nice. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So what y'all was saying, we praying for Dirk and it must be hard to come from where he come from. What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:38:33 What y'all was saying? Yeah, all that. We said all that. Right there. Said it's by design. Okay. Next topic. You don't have an opinion?
Starting point is 00:38:52 I have quite a few opinions, but I don't know if this is the room for them, now that I've heard y'all. Maybe y'all are right. No, no, no, wait, hold on. No, nigga. You can't, you can't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:39:00 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, He'll have his day. He'll have his day in court. So we'll see what part he has played in any of this. But that to the side, like I was telling J.J.J. Wong earlier, King Von and Youngboy Beef wasn't over nothing. It wasn't over absolutely nothing. So it start there for me. I ain't got to get into where everybody came from and what we've seen and what we witnessed and who shot and who got killed.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Y'all niggas don't be fighting over nothing. That was nothing. So now for that to escalate to the shit we witnessed in the parking lot with Vaughn and it was going to be carryover from that. We saw a Quando Rondo reach out to fucking... Um... Um... What's that? Big U? Big U. We just seen him...
Starting point is 00:40:10 We seen him for a few years look afraid for his life. We seen this all. So, I mean, I don't want to add... We know too much. These niggas is putting it in songs. These niggas is putting it on Instagram reels. These niggas are detailing and laying these things out, and the cops have always been online since online been there.
Starting point is 00:40:30 That's true. They're watching. Like, niggas at some point have to hold themselves accountable for the part they play in a designed ecosystem. I agree with that. That's what I'm saying. So this is real unfortunate. And these are some of the same details
Starting point is 00:40:46 that came up in the YSL case. And these are some of the, listen, the Rico lady down there said, yo, we coming with Rico's now. Like if that didn't send a memo to people, hey, we are aggressively targeting y'all, entertainers and rappers that are blurring the lines with your companies
Starting point is 00:41:08 and your street ties. I'm on the other edge of this. Have at it. I'm mad I even got to come in here and talk about some of this shit. But the only reason I'm on the other edge of this is because we seen like from the older artists, right? And we seen and experienced oh them
Starting point is 00:41:25 they not like that they're not like that you feel me we always hear this that artists not like that they not on that now you see in a generation where artists are actually doing the things they saying and it's like now you have the older artists saying oh them niggas are stupid but for years we heard y'all calling each other out saying oh he ain he ain't knowing that, he ain't like that. And there's no guidance, there's no, yo, don't do it that way, let me show you how to do it. The only person who tried to do that is Wallo
Starting point is 00:41:53 and he was not even able to give guidance because he's in a position now where he can tell you where everything already started. There was no artist that took none of the younger artists from when they came in and was like, yo, hold on, I've been down that road. Let me guide you and show you how to switch it around. And that's why I have a disname for, I would say some of the older artists or the people on social media judging how everything's playing out because you got to remember, we all around the same age,
Starting point is 00:42:20 at least me and these artists, there's no, yo, little bro, this ain't how you do that. Like, you feel me? They wait till it happen and then chastise us. But a lot of times the young niggas don't listen anyway. Niggas are listening to an old nigga who's coming from a, like, where it feels sincere. When it don't feel sincere and it feel like you talking at us, then you're gonna get that push back. So how do you deliver a message if I'm speaking to you from what I know and my experience
Starting point is 00:42:45 and this is the way I know how to convey the message. Why take it so personal instead of absorbing the knowledge? I had niggas do that to me where at a young age I took it personal until I realized like nigga no he was just that was the way that he conveyed his message and I should have listened because he ended up whatever he said ended up happening. No I feel like there's two ways to answer that. One, it's hard to listen to a nigga who you feel you may have more money or motion than. That's one.
Starting point is 00:43:10 That's big. Two, and it's how the message is said and the tone in which it's conveyed. It's always, we had this conversation last pod. It's the tone in which a person addresses you and brings it to you. I would say from how I've seen it, and we've seen different interviews
Starting point is 00:43:25 Well all the artists be like all these niggas are stupid It's how they say it the only one we've really seen come from a place of like it sound like they cared Sincerely was wallow and we see them do that with thug in them and with dirt in them It's really a matter of I don't even like you saying that by the time you get to wallow something's wrong No, by the time it got to Wallo. That was my point. That's what I was saying. It really was in motion. We know that that's the problem. We already are murdering niggas.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah. You come in to Wallo to promote your album. You're coming to Wallo to do a podcast. It just so happens, he gonna give you, he gonna give you the good word while you're here on your album rollout. That means that this shit that's been in place, the problem has been in effect. I don't know what all this shit y'all saying has to do with senseless killing to me. Like, it's just senseless now. Yeah, I don't think you should need 50 cent to come and say, don't pay people to murder nor do, right, like, oh my God. And, but, if somebody gotta say, yo, don't rent a car in your name
Starting point is 00:44:31 and give it to somebody to kill somebody, we pass mentorship. That's true. Not just that, if you a real. We pass mentorship. One, and two, you talking about, it's hard to respect things when you got more money and more motion, we've had this talk up here before too.
Starting point is 00:44:46 What they're doing in the streets today is going off how many bodies you got. So now you're asking, listen to what you're asking for old OGs to do. You're asking for us to go and insert ourselves in the fray of niggas with five, seven, ten, fifteen, twenty bodies. Yes. Who is volunteering to do that? At eighteen. At nineteen.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Who is volunteering to do that? Not I. And I think, I just think, I think with Jake, I'm not disagreeing with what he's saying because that's happening, but this ain't about hip hop. These people were already in this life prior to becoming rappers, I'm assuming. You get what I'm saying? Like they're saying about hip hop. These people were already in this life prior to becoming rappers, I'm assuming. You get what I'm saying? Like this ain't about hip hop. So like I said, these is niggas that's in the jungle, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:32 When you in the jungle, you gonna live by jungle rules and that's what they doing. So I don't want to blame this on the old hip hop artists and think that they are lacking in their ability to, you know what I mean? Get a message across to young hip hop artists, this ain't about hip hop to me, this is about inner city shit that's going on all over the country. No, I'm not placing the blame on only older artists, I'm saying like just in our culture overall,
Starting point is 00:45:54 like you feel me, like it's all, hip hop was based on the principle, really off the streets, like you feel me, everybody had to be the toughest, the hardest. And then it got to a point where we start seeing niggas really live in their raps. But there was a lot of niggas back then real quick that was doing what they do. And a lot of them is coming home now that was that was living like that. It was just wasn't on the Internet. And they did it different.
Starting point is 00:46:16 It wasn't braggadocious. The rappers pretended to be the guys that they watch do it. Right. They pretended to be that guy. So they were around that they were around them niggas that was catching 10, 15 bodies, but they were just acting like it was them. And... D got shot over ghetto Koran. No, we don't sound like...
Starting point is 00:46:34 No. No, we agree with you. Senseless killings and stuff like that. Ben, what's the next step? We agree. You coming from a standpoint to me like, yo, nigga, yo, he gonna have his day in court. It happened. You niggas put yourself in that position. That's how I'm receiving your message.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yo, you niggas put yourself in that position. You should have known better. And that's how I'm taking your message. So that's why I'm talking on the other side of it. If you don't mean that, I apologize. You know what I mean? But that's how I'm taking it. I see all angles of it.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I agree. I understand what you're saying. You're not wrong, nigga. Like, nigga, this shit is over nothing. This shit is stupid. Niggas got a lot of money. You n all angles of it. I see all angles. I agree. I understand what you're saying. You're not wrong, nigga. Like, nigga, this shit is over nothing. This shit is stupid. Niggas got a lot of money. You niggas made it out the hood.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Why the fuck you niggas is killing each other, shooting each other, senseless killing? I'm with you on that as well. I'm with you, Joe. You ain't even killing a nigga in your backyard. You hopping a plane. No, but bigger than that. You boarding a plane to go and shoot
Starting point is 00:47:22 in broad daylight by the mall in LA. By the mall. And what you? Stop, yo. At some point, adults gotta start sounding like adults. I don't want to hear this teen summit shit y'all talking about. I agree with you. The same thing when them niggas got to busing right
Starting point is 00:47:38 by the Renaissance Hotel in LA, broad daylight. Broad daylight. My same point about consonant and Union Square on a Friday on a much different note exists here it's something no you can't just grab a gun and start shooting and broad daylight with people that don't have nothing to do with your beef your anger your hurt your hood problems your I'm a demon I seen too much so now I'm a demon nigga then go move that shit somewhere I grew and if you're gonna do that
Starting point is 00:48:12 This gonna even sound niggas been doing that since the beginning the time This is the point and they hoods and they jungles niggas is doing that You might not do that in these white people neighborhoods cuz you're gonna get caught niggas give a fuck over here You know I'm saying but not that, if you got enough money to get a nigga killed, get a nigga killed the right way. Get the ninjas. This gonna sound bad. It don't cost nothing to get somebody killed, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be associated with it in no way, shape or form. It's not gonna be no ID, it's not gonna be no rental car, it's not gonna be an airplane ticket, it's not gonna be nothing that could remotely come back. That's gonna come back to me. It's not gonna be nothing. I forget we're talking about niggas who are,
Starting point is 00:48:51 don't come from the greatest education system and not that smart. I take the other side in that argument. I take the other side too. I take the total other. If you're a legitimate street nigga, niggas in the street was getting niggas murdered at 17 and 18 years old in a manner that they didn't want
Starting point is 00:49:06 To be a tie to it. Yeah, dirt dad is his dad Like he probably has had the greatest education on The effects of what this does It's a good point Yeah, it's a good point You had a front row seat I ain't, yeah, that's a good point. You had a front row seat. I'm just sick and tired of us.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And again, I'm not really talking about him cuz he'll have his day in court. I don't know. I don't know nothing about none of that. They're gonna have to try and tie that money, whatever they're trying to do. And I certainly ain't about to say it helped no case. I don't know nothing about nothing. I'm just tired of seeing young black successful people, successful people get the opportunity and lose it like that, like that because of where we came
Starting point is 00:49:55 from and the things we've endured and experienced. At some point somebody has to be, break the cycle. But wait, but wait, when you said, hold on. Yes, I agree with you. A lot of times these things be retroactive, right? We know a person the shit would serve, free our brother. Like, the shit that he got involved in was retro. He changed by the time that they came and looked for him. A lot of shit be, be, a lot of shit be retro.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Well, it happened before. And to me, a lot, sometimes you do stuff in the moment, I'm not making any excuse, I do agree with him, but sometimes you do shit in the moment of 2016 or 15, it's the situation that you're in. Then you see something from a different perspective, you get around niggas like you, or get around niggas that's showing niggas a different light
Starting point is 00:50:43 and be like, yo, you know, I wanna do better.. But that stain is still there and you have to deal with it. Not in this instance, but you are. And not in the surf instance either. Free to wave, surf, I love them. But surf would be the first to tell you. I said my nigga moved to Africa. Not Africa. But when he got away.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Hey, stop and go now. Go. Because yes, if you in the same environment, Hey, stop and go now. Go. Because yes, if you're in the same environment, yes, something retroactively that you did in your past is gonna come back. I could not stop thinking of Chief Keef this whole time. As an example of, or at least the only example
Starting point is 00:51:20 I could think of, of somebody that did it the right way. Did it the right way. I don't know about his past, his street ties, none of that shit. All I know is he got a record deal, word spread fast around the industry about who he be like it normally does. He wowed out for a year, maybe the first year and a half, and then he boogie. He moved. He moved and we never heard a thing again. And yeah, he took advantage of the opportunity, rebranded and is now recognized as the godfather of that sound and the fucking musical genius that he is. True. Nobody mentions his name with none of this other shit. Know why? Because he got an opportunity and seemingly stopped. And guess what? If he didn't stop, it wasn't in a song, it wasn't
Starting point is 00:52:10 in a reel, it wasn't on YouTube. Live streamed. Yeah, it wasn't that. It wasn't that. I don't want to hear this shit from these men. I don't. I don't. Hey, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If I went out there and did it, and I'm a little older, but if I went out there and did it, the world would be a little different from the people that love me. Nigga, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:52:33 What are you doing? I'm fucking leaving my dad house. Leaving my dad house, I make a left. It's me and I don't forget who I was with. Oh, it's my little brother. We make a left right there on, eh, it don't matter. But they had a memorial and news reporters all over there, big crowds, I'm like, yo, what happened over here?
Starting point is 00:52:56 My brother's like, yo, you ain't hear the lady left a four-year-old in the house for five days or a baby in the house for five days and the baby died. Like, wait, what? Like, my brain can't compute some of the stuff that is happening out here. And in hip-hop, yeah, another one. This is another one of those things.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It's another one of those things. And y'all are in a system that's part of a system. Who do y'all think y'all be talking to on these microphones, in these booths, on these songs with these fucking choruses and bars? Where do y'all think y'all, who do y'all think is hearing this stuff? I just don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:53:34 They just cut they iPhone off. I don't understand it. And be recording theyself with hammers and all that. But, yo, you know we don't play over, I'm like, they do. You ain't lying? It ain't too many people that figured out a way to have one foot in and one foot out.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Very hard to do. I'm sad. It's damn near impossible to do. It's like a whole generation of fucking hip hop music and culture that is being just wiped off the map by dumb shit. Yes. It's sad.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yeah, and then they're gonna try to put like this type of behavior, it's like an indictment on it. There is an indictment on hip hop. Yeah. True. Going on right now. And they're gonna try to put this behavior in there when I don't know if this is that. It's not that.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I don't know if this is that. It's saddening, it's disappointing. I don't wanna talk about none of this shit because I don't live my life in a way that's conducive for me to understand it. So I shut the fuck up about it. You know, maybe there's some points on the other side as to why people think that this is rational behavior,
Starting point is 00:54:38 but it is not. And unfortunately, everybody got a phone, so we got to stare at this shit and look at this shit. If you're out there, choose your heroes wisely. That's what I have for you. Choose your heroes wisely. Be care. You pick the person that you want to adore and admire with discernment and care. Listen, you cooking?
Starting point is 00:55:02 I'm done. I ain't got nothing on it. Prayers for all. Prayers for all. See, but I'm talking about me in my 40s. I go to sleep thinking about just senseless death. I do. It ain't gotta be somebody shooting somebody. I go to sleep thinking about the guy that just went to the bodega to get a sandwich, and the car just went and plummeted, bow! And now that's the end.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Like, wait, that's not fair. That's not fair. That's not right. On the news, I see mad deaths. So I'd be like, for that guy, that's not right. Shit, Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds, right? Denver wire receiver that just got shot in his head
Starting point is 00:55:37 and his arm, leaving the strip club. Like this shit is sad and it's fucking depressing. I'm sorry that so many of y'all feel like you need to bust your gun to feel safe. I don't think this- I don't even know if it be about safety now. Well, rather be- It be about machismo.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Well, they always say rather to be caught with it than caught without it. I'm talking about for those people. For those people that Flippers talking about where something might retroactively pop up for something you did back in the day. I get, I get that. You said it's what? For those people that flippin' storm out with, something might retroactively pop up for something you did back in the day. I get, I get that.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I said it'd be about my cheese mode now. Like niggas brag about having it on them. Niggas brag, you know I don't play nigga, I let this thing go. Like it's a cool thing now. I feel yeah. I feel like it's just, it's deeper than any of the things we would ever know, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:56:27 I read a book, one of them books, psychology shit, it was basically on the urban community and it was like, one of the quotes is, how we flip suicidal thoughts is homicidal impulses. And it makes a lot of sense. When I look back in Yonkers and look at all the little bros and all that when one pass away how everybody's all sad for the week two weeks everybody's crying and all of that a lot of these young niggas is in their homes suffering from a lack of love appreciation and all of that and they think when they die or they go to jail that they're gonna get that that one week two weeks of praise is real love and they don't realize that it's not. A lot of these niggas are really suicidal and they're flipping it into homicidal wind pulses.
Starting point is 00:57:11 That's sad. I can't argue that. I can see that. I can't argue that at all. I can see it too. It's sad. I can't argue that. Well, you know my problem is, this is my problem.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I swear to God, I hate, God I'm sorry, that I hate coming in here on pod days to discuss shit like this. I swear I do. It really grinds my problem. I swear to God I hate, God I'm sorry, that I hate coming in here on pod days to discuss shit like this. I swear I do. It really grinds my gears. This irks my soul to have to come in here and speak to some of this shit. But a few things. To J-One's earlier point,
Starting point is 00:57:39 let me be the one to tell y'all out there, you don't have to live your raps. You don't have to do that. I don't care what they told you in the 80s and 90s. It's art. You know what I mean? Lies I told in raps. Mad lies. You don't have to get on there in chronical... Crimes. Chronological order. You don't have to name like Rest In uh, rest in peace, Fulio.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Somebody on my algorithm, a Fulio joint song popped up and it was hard. I wasn't too familiar with Fulio's music, but this song was hard. And the whole thing was him naming the niggas that died. Like the niggas that got all of the ops, every one of them, it was three minutes of death. We got all of them niggas. The internet now is pulling up old, dirt songs that sound a certain way and paint a certain picture. The niggas album cover had a scoreboard up there
Starting point is 00:58:45 of us versus y'all and nigga we winning. Like how many niggas we murk versus how many niggas y'all murk. And that's what's going on. That don't mean that was true though. It don't, we don't know, nobody knows. We not that close, thank God we not that close to the situation to know if it's true or not.
Starting point is 00:59:04 But it looks the way. The optics. It looks the way. That fucking song with the choir saying, all my life, all my life, and that of it, man. Yo, dog, who the fuck do y'all think y'all are fooling with this stuff? All of this key to the city.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yo, you know what my problem is? Let me talk and then you can go ahead. Like some of us come from hoods where we know killers, we've spoken to some of them, some of them got good hearts, so we understand. Some of us come from places where some killers, we understand, so we do have an empathy that is not present in modern day society.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And that's how they could tell that we from where we from, because we kinda, in a sick, twisted way, get some of that. Irrationalize. Some of that. And I'm not saying that's okay, but that exists in some of us. We have to draw a line between that and just romanticizing bad killers.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Y'all niggas, whoever this applies to, are not good at killing. Y'all are missing your target, hitting another target, going to rap about it, killing a kid, killing a mom, killing in the daytime, killing at a mall, killing in very crowded fucking areas, killing over nothing. You niggas are killing over absolutely nothing. And then rapping about it.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah, so that's my problem. Like I want to I want to separate the people that have that type of empathy that I'm speaking about because those people that I'm talking about I never spoke to one of them and they was like, I'm also about to run this bodega and just let everybody in there have it. Since Elon Musk purchased X my for you tab is nothing but those types of senseless murders It's dudes running in check cashing spots with AR 15 and just wiping everybody out like
Starting point is 01:01:25 This shit is a mess out here. And thirdly, if there was anybody who we would totally understand, you making a decision to change your life around and live differently and maybe turn your back to some of the things that was going on previously, it's Dirk. It's Dirk. What else needs to happen? They've killed people close to you.
Starting point is 01:01:45 They've killed your family. They've run in your house while you and your queen were sleeping. If he would have said, hey, you know what, dog? I'm cool. I'm gonna take my $60 million and my children and go to Colorado
Starting point is 01:02:06 and rap from there, never to be seen again. I think everybody would say, hey, you know what? I get that. I get that. That's never the fucking choice. That's never the route chosen.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I don't get it. Again, he'll have his day in court, so I'm not really getting in to again. He'll have his day in court, so I'm not I'm not really getting in him They'll have to prove that what they're saying about him is true But for the niggas that they nad they talk about they got somebody that was wearing a wire for 12 years No, he came home from 12 he had it for years though He came home from 12 had a wire on him, and was wearing the wire for years. Got it. Got it. Damn.
Starting point is 01:02:52 For the niggas that they nabbed though, they got the shooters. They got the shooters already. Hey, there was 20 million cameras over there on Sunset at 3 o'clock that day. You boarded the plane with your name. We got the text, we got, you receiving the money. That's where the problem is. It's not that it was just a murder for hire. We have the money being paid. Unlike,
Starting point is 01:03:14 unlike Dolph, where they was talking about it was a murder for hire, we never got paid. So that made it fuzzy. These people got received money. Whoever these people are. So now they gotta track it. The crazy should be, people got received money, whoever these people are. So now they gotta track it. The crazy should be you got the money on Zell or Venmo
Starting point is 01:03:29 or Cash App or some wild shit like if that is the case. Yeah, it's just not. These are senseless crimes that don't appear to have much thought going into it other than violent emotional reaction and response and It's a shame to keep seeing it happen to the people that that that found a way to the people that hit the lotto that's These opportunities we talking about don't just pop up for peace. It's like it is like hitting the lotto I
Starting point is 01:04:06 just pop up. It's like, it is like hitting the lotto. I wish that we would cherish it more. I wish that we would value ourselves and each other just more than to keep doing that. That's all. That's all I'm done. I think that, you know, I'm in the middle, Joe. I'm realizing that podcasting, the job that we have to do is filled with hypocrisy. And I say that to say because when we talked about liking that same Dirk song, you push the fact that you didn't want to hear that you wanted to hear the regular Dirk shit that he normally does. And on top of that, everybody's not as fortunate and as smart
Starting point is 01:04:38 as you to take an opportunity. I'm pretty sure that when I hear a story about how you sat in your truck and somebody tried to take you, do whatever, and the gun jammed, I'm pretty sure that when I hear a story about how you sat in your truck and somebody tried to take you, do whatever, and the gun jammed, I'm pretty sure if you didn't have the maturity and the success you had or just being the person you are, if that nigga was outside playing around and you had the opportunity,
Starting point is 01:04:57 based off, in my opinion, the environment you come from, something could have happened to him if he didn't go to jail, because he tried to take your life. The guy that broke my jaw in the park, I looked for him for, that shit bothered me every day. Looked for him for over 10 years, sitting in the park, laying there on the bench on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:05:11 can't find this nigga because I got snuck and my jaw broke and it was around the neighborhood. Until I interviewed Soul B and he was able to, I had to sit down across from this guy, and this is a simple, broke my jaw, snuck me from behind. So I'm saying that we experience some of these traumas and we are not as fortunate as you. And it is an excuse, but we're not as fortunate
Starting point is 01:05:32 to think how you think, to have like... But you are. That's the problem. I am now, I am now. Before I got here, before I got here, around you and C, I thought different. No, you were still blessed. No, but I thought different.
Starting point is 01:05:47 You were one of the lucky ones, the way I was one of the lucky ones. You're absolutely right. Somebody put a gun inside of my Hummer on Gifford and Bergen and pulled the trigger, point blank range, and it didn't go off. That's luck, part of being good is being lucky. But that's luck. That didn't make me say, that's kind of my point is we have to value ourselves in a way where I'm not now trading in my
Starting point is 01:06:17 life to cancel yours. I don't think that's a fair exchange. I think God blessed me in that moment, so let me be wise enough to go and meet my potential and all of the things that I'm capable of, versus getting with the 40 niggas that I was with at the time and figuring out how to go handle that in a different way. Even if you were gonna handle it, it's still, maybe it's me,
Starting point is 01:06:44 I'm still not gonna handle it, well it's just gung ho. How many experiences you have to go through for you to say to yourself, yo, let me make a change. This is what we're all forgetting. Like some people need a certain amount and unfortunately it may end up death or jail but when you in the streets, regardless if you got money or don't,
Starting point is 01:07:03 that's what come with it. That's the only options. You used the word, yes. I wasn't in the streets regardless of you got money or don't that's what come with it. That's the only options You use the word. I wasn't in the street. That's not true either Even when you're in the streets, you just not gonna say yo fuck it and I'm gonna just crash out the smart niggas That's making money in the streets and that's doing things in the streets Yeah, some of them niggas is getting niggas killed but they not just getting niggas killed on some yo go kill that nigga on Main Street At two o'clock everybody in the streets not making money. Some niggas are just in the way in the streets. I didn't say that either.
Starting point is 01:07:26 It's some niggas in the street game that's just not dumb. We trying to make it seem like, yo, the niggas that live that life, that's just how they are. And that's not true. There's a generational gap. Y'all were raised different. Chicago is different from New Jersey, from New York, from Yankees, from Queens. Like, it is a different world up there. None of the murders I'm talking about happened in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:07:50 No, they didn't, but the niggas that are committing them, allegedly, are from Chicago. I'm talking about that bullshit that happened in Atlanta where we all could have left the hookah spot peacefully. I agree with this. I've been in a parking lot. Yo, if you've been outside, you've been in a parking lot before
Starting point is 01:08:04 with some niggas that am-ing. You know they was horn bullshit? Yeah. And you move accordingly in the parking lot. I'm talking about Atlanta and Florida. I don't care about where y'all come from. I understand that Chicago is a different place, which is why you never hear me talk about
Starting point is 01:08:18 Chicago. I'm not there to know or speak to it. Once you get your rap money and invest that in vests, bullets, ammo, guns, the joints with the switch and bounties, dog, we're getting you for the bounty. You cannot just run around and put money on top of somebody's head because you got money. Sorry. That's not how this works. Is there ever a time where niggas be like, yo, you know better?
Starting point is 01:08:52 Does that ever stand? Like yo. That's what I'm saying. When you in jail. That's when niggas have that conversation. When you in jail, yo bro, you know better. Niggas don't have that conversation on the street. I'm talking about within yourself. When they are in jail.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Did you have it after you got shot? Yeah, I had it before and after. You see, you had it multiple times. But when I got shot, it wasn't based on something that I was doing necessarily dumb. What I'm saying is this, when I was a kid, I knew better. When I'm an adult, I knew better. I agree with this.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I'm not blaming it on nobody. Anything that goes on in my life today, whether it's in business, whether it's in personal, bro, I hold myself accountable for every decision I ever made in my life, bro. We are a combination of our decisions. That's a fact. So cool, I'm not going to blame this.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I'm not going to blame that. When I was running around, I was still smarter than most of the niggas running around because I thought different than them. They was doing dumb shit. I ain't wanna do it, I ain't do it. That's right. And thank God coming up,
Starting point is 01:09:53 the niggas that was doing dumb shit protected niggas like me. Not all the time, but even when they, I still would say, oh, that nigga on dummy time. We see. I'm going over there. We see dirt hold itself accountable. I'm just saying, they let old boy go to the park and work on his jump shot You got a chance young boy. Yep. Good man. Go get your shit off while we out here
Starting point is 01:10:10 Like I'm with ish People that know better no more that ain't true. We just ain't coming around you niggas that shooting 20 niggas a month Fuck y'all No, it ain't that many niggas saying that right now. On my block right now, and Carl can tell y'all this, there's a bunch of young niggas that have no reason to be out there. They're not even from over there. And every time I come outside, I keep asking,
Starting point is 01:10:33 yo, why are they here? Like, what is their purpose? And what's the response? And nobody has a response. I've been asking for the last month and a half, yo, why are they here? Like, what the fuck are they doing? Like, what is their purpose?
Starting point is 01:10:48 And you know what the common shit is? They just outside, they wanna be outside. And that is it. It's not for the person, it's always the entourage. A lot of the times that be a problem behind a lot of shit. It takes a village to raise a child. Even me trying to be outside. Remember my mother coming into clubs looking for me, right, at a young age. Or nigga Webb and Nitty having a conversation aggressively.
Starting point is 01:11:16 But, you know, nigga, you're not doing that, little TJ. Go in the house. You got a good mother. You got a house. Go to school. Giving me money. You don't need to do that. Here, take the money. Go buy yourself some sneakers. And this is what happens. Sometimes you just watch it and you want to take accountability.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Because I had niggas tell me that. And thank God I did. Thank God it was a group of niggas that. And I asked them this question as an adult, like, yo, what did y'all see? I asked Nitty when I sat down with him, yo, what y'all niggas saw that y'all didn't even give me a pack or say, go do a dummy mission. Because in my mind, I was more than capable of doing it because I was doing it on my own. And he explained to me that, yo, a lot of times when we grow up, there's always those special ones that we throw the extra mile and we cherish.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Like, nah, you go to school. I miss my opportunity, I miss this. So it is niggas out there that will do so. I had that experience, you know what I mean? I had that experience. So- And I mean? I had that experience. So- And y'all just today, y'all today, man, y'all kids today. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I do like my forties. First of all, aging is a gift. It is. I wanna remind the audience of that. Getting older is the blessing. One, and two, the stunt today is different than whatever y'all are putting on Instagram. The stunt today is Niddy hitting me to say, happy Father's Day.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Love you OG, remember back in the day we made it, you kids, my kids. Just talking to father, dad, family, what you're doing now that we don't have to do none of that no more. That's the stunt Y'all are confusing the stunt out there Y'all are I Played it y'all. I pray that y'all get guidance from some way whoever this applies to whoever this applies to again Dirk will have his day in court and
Starting point is 01:13:03 Because I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, I hope that they can't prove none of that stuff that they attempting to prove on him. That's the hope. I feel it. I agree. All right. I mean, in more hip hop court news. I mean in more hip-hop court news. You know what I mean? No. It's a weekend, man. I was in a good mood and a good vibe.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Y'all coming here with this hootenanny. Come on, man. Let me call on the Power Luther real quick. Yo, man. Let me call on the power of Luther real quick. Yo, man. This life thing is good. It's precious. This life thing is good. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:13:55 It's fragile. It's delicate. It's to be treated and handled with care. Care. Damn. This is a long intro. Yeah, he knew the beat was This might be my favorite Luther song too. He knew the beat was black. Just let it run.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Let it run, I ain't ready yet. Luther was getting some coffee or something. Fucking some nigga in the back. No! Why would you say that? What? You think Luther never fucked no dude in the studio? You are my shining star, my guiding light. Not right before doing this.
Starting point is 01:14:29 George Michael, you think some of these slaps come from gay sex in the back? Yo, yo, yo, a nigga slapping them and pulling out a gun on them and telling them to go record. Remember that producer that they said that was doing that? Niggas was forcing a nigga to record. Under the stress, nigga. So yeah, I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Somebody pulled a gun on Luther? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no That meant they was butt ass. Wake me up before you go, nigga. That mean they was butt ass recording that. What? Luther ain't no droz on doing this. Yo, man. Listen to it. Hey. Wait a minute now. Yeah, it's good vibes and good energy in here. What?
Starting point is 01:15:14 They ain't gonna do the gay, man. It wasn't confirmed. I don't do it for fun. Yes, it was. By who, nigga? I don't stop that. Luther was gay. It's confirmed. And your home is now too far away I just don't wanna stop too much
Starting point is 01:15:30 Never too much, never too much, never too much He died. A lot of niggas don't confirm they gay. Luther was gay, nigga. Why you wanna dance with your father? I told ya. No, that's not gay. That's not gay. Why you wanna dance with your dad? If JR come in our house, your dad, let's dance. You gonna look at him crazy. Listen, that's not gay.
Starting point is 01:15:52 No, I'm not. No, I'm not. And that's one of my favorite songs. That's not gay. Call him right now and ask him if he's gay. I'm not calling him right now. No. No.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I never did dance. Yo, you got trauma, son. You got trauma, and that's what I'm saying. I like dancing with my pops. And the podcast let you let it out. But you got trauma, and I feel for you. And that's what I'm saying. And the podcast let you, you know, let it out. But you got trauma. And I feel for you, my nigga. So good. I feel you got a generation that got trauma.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Yeah, it ain't just him. It's them. But I like that about you because you're expressive. You express it. But you I'm letting you know, if you trying to hide it, nigga, you need to be better to hide it. Go see. We got it. We want to hide it. I don't care. I hide it. But how does Pop feel, when you express that, how do you think Pops feel?
Starting point is 01:16:27 If he watches it and say, yo, whenever my son feel about me, it comes out on camera or it comes out on the mic. How do you think he may feel about that? I'm saying it personally to him. Okay, I didn't know that. That's the relationship. This is like, these are my grievances or issues.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Got it, okay. Like, you feel me, Wee? I got you. I got you. And we gotta stop allowing him to come up here and get Jay to kiss Tromba. Word. That is true.
Starting point is 01:16:48 You can't just take the gig and say something bad about the legend. They sell some coffee. Your dad is a legend. You are not. You gotta be a legend. I'm a legend. You gotta be a legend
Starting point is 01:16:57 before you start talking about legends around here. I'm a legend. That's the problem, these kids with voices. I watch a video of you at home coming, blowing the whistle, dancing. I'm like, nigga of you at home coming blowing the whistle, dancing. I'm like, what the fuck? Oh shit. Big alpha.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yo, shout out to the law abiding citizens out there, god damn it. Indeed. Thank you. That's you? Indeed. These days. I ain't tell you, when I got my car to go up the street the other day, I felt like I had warrants.
Starting point is 01:17:27 I got paranoid. Yeah. How the clip looks. That car hot. I don't mean hot as in nice. I felt like, oh shit, let me make sure I'm good. I like it hot, the ones that don't tell me to stop. I haven't had to think that way in man long.
Starting point is 01:17:43 That shit look like a police maggot. Yeah, that shit good. That shit is a, bop bop bop bop bop bop bop. They gonna get up, see that pink hoodie on. You dropped slow, that nigga. That's Luther, son. Yeah, that shit. Oh, whoa.
Starting point is 01:17:57 That's good. Yo, nah, nah, nah. He's good. Yo, that shit. Oh no, I think I smoked a karaoke look with my, yeah man. And if you got the cigarette between these two fingers, you gonna look sassy and shit. You know what I'm saying? I think I smoked a karaoke look with my man and if you got the cigarette I think I smoked these pants. They're not just out but
Starting point is 01:18:14 You wouldn't do this, but the Balenciaga How about this at least say they look like Joe pants those are Joe Joe pants. Those are definitely Joe pants. I think the Balenciaga niggas made them for you. You ain't got to, that's what I said when I said it. They might have made them for you. I'm like, oh shit, that's wild. And now. I don't know. I like them shoes.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Not me. They for me. They for me. Style should be unique to everyone. Hey, what's that shit you got with your back hold? With my what? Scoliosis. Scoliosis.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Having that car and Scoliosis is fly. When you get in the car, I know you get in that shit fly, nigga. I watch nigga. Having Scoliosis, you fly right into that shit. You know, a nigga with a straight back can't go. Them shit ain't comfortable. Yeah, you get into that shit fly. I know niggas is like, look at this nigga.
Starting point is 01:18:57 I don't want to rob you. It's gonna be when you're in there, but getting in there, you just have to learn how to get in there. I mean, you 5'9", that's different. You just got whatever, you five-eleven, whatever you are. I'm five-eleven, yo. Hold up, let me crack on him. You like the fucking bitches that went and get lipo
Starting point is 01:19:13 and now they appear to be a bad bitch but they brain and shit is still on. They still on. You still toxic. Yeah, he still got short nigga brain and personality and heart and soul. He developed into this. All you gotta do is accuse him of something nigga.
Starting point is 01:19:27 That Napoleon shit come right out. Yeah! Oh shit! I took over the land! Napoleon! I took over the land! Yo, you're a- No I'm not wrong, you wrong.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Who the fuck you think you're telling? You're wrong! Put your mouth at least in my room! Nigga at the game was like, yo, you tall as hell, my G. You feel good. No nigga. I know I'm tall I ain't tall as hell anyway, but you like you don't look like that on the couch I said, yeah, the couch is 18 inches high stop dissing the couch When it cut this anything around you know, he wasn't always taller here size eight. I'm not a size 10
Starting point is 01:20:03 They don't even make that sneaker for niggas that wear 11 and up. They don't even make that sneaker. Yeah, those are girls' niggas. You listening to them. I don't know. You listening to them, stupid ass. Yo, my feet growing too, yo.
Starting point is 01:20:16 At this age, you're gross. Dead ass. Yo, nah, hold on. I'm dead ass. Benjamin Button ass. Yeah, you good, bro? Yo, A.I. Yo, my shit.
Starting point is 01:20:23 A.I. You good, this shit?. Yo my shit. AI. You good? I hate to break it to you. I'm dead ass. I swear. I ain't lying. Yo pause.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Nothing on you is growing. There's nothing on you that's growing. Now listen to me. That's the old nigga swollen. That's a swollen foot nigga. You ain't got one of your knees. I was like yo should I tell the pod. When you sleep with your feet up like this nigga.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Elevator is a thing. That's a swollen foot, nigga. You have one of your knees. That ass. I was like, yo, should I tell the pod? When you sleep with your feet up like this, nigga, elevate your toes, nigga. That's what it is. This nigga's stupid. It's just swollen. Your foot's not growing.
Starting point is 01:20:55 That ass. It's no. Me too. All right. What do you mean they're growing? They're not getting swollen. No, they're not swollen. My feet growing.
Starting point is 01:21:03 My sneakers don't fit me no. All right, yo, never mind. They're sweaty and hot. I know I shouldn't have bought this in the pot. I'm around a whole bunch of children. And this the problem with having children at an old age. You start seeing them grow. You think you growing. You trying to live. My daughter is growing. Wait, I'm growing.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Nigga, this not Peter Pan lane. You with green tea, I'm in this. No, for real, my shit growing. It's okay, Ish. Okay, well, congrats. Yeah, it's gross. Nigga's hating. Like, what does, my shit growing. Yeah, that. It's okay, it's okay. Well, congrats. Thank you, yes, girls. And you go.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Like, what does he want us to do with that new information? Right. Like, his foot is growing. Hey, you know one day though. I ain't buying it. Spy on this nigga one day though, son. I want you to decide the shit he be doing to you. I want you to reverse it on that nigga.
Starting point is 01:21:37 One day when he going a little flash with his slide in, just take your car and follow behind him and see what he does, nigga. Come back and tell us. Spy on this nigga, son. Most of what he done. He got it now. He, nigga. Come back and tell us. Spy on this nigga, son. Most of what he done. He got it now. He do some fly shit sometimes differently, son.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Spy on this nigga. He don't do everything the same. That nigga's like, ain't nothing to spy on me. I ain't doing nothing. I live a boring life, yo. No, you don't. I live a really... I saw those stories, nigga.
Starting point is 01:22:00 You was having fun at that karaoke, huh? Oh, I was home in bed by the time I posted that story. You don't gotta tell me that. I'm not even in a shot. You don't gotta tell me that. You see me posting stories. I don't sing. What's that song you sing? I was long gone. Yeah, I was long gone out of there.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Let me say, you just did a good, just look fly. Look nice. The view you had. It was nice, and it was a good vibe. It was a good vibe. I thought Mel was gonna be in there. I was asked to go, but I couldn't. Ooh, shout out, get it. I wanted to go, but I couldn't.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Got you. Who asked you to go? Who asked you to go? Doreen. Okay, hey Doreen. Hey Doreen. So I'm gonna go in the next time. Next one.
Starting point is 01:22:41 You gonna go with me? Come on, we can sing Fire and Desire. That trick has gotten many a man at this part, but not I. Hey. Not I, Squire. That one little trick right there made many fail. That's funny. Not I, no it's all right.
Starting point is 01:23:03 I'll see you there. All right, fine, fine, fine. Oh you wanna sing? She want the ride, nigga, she want the ride. That's what. Nah, nah, no, it's all right. I'll see you there. All right, fine, fine, fine. Oh, you want to sing? She want the ride, nigga, she want the ride. That's what she do. She do the shit for the ride. Look, she don't care about going with you for real. She gonna leave you aside.
Starting point is 01:23:13 We have fun when we go out. But you gonna leave her side, because you mixy, you ill. You just want the ride. Yo, so, pull up, pull him off the block. No, I can't. That was funny, she don't really leave my side. I don't. Oh, she don't? She don't leave my side when we go out. Because he's somebody, oh, I got it. Hey, I can't. She don't really leave myself. I don't know. She don't.
Starting point is 01:23:25 She don't leave myself. We go out because he's somebody. Oh, I don't know. He's somebody and they're like flipping. You know, you're good. You know, actually we go, you walk to the top. You do laps. I want to have I want to have I'll meet you right here. Right here. Right here. Ready? Break. That's fine, you only, okay. I don't think you fucking know me. Anyways. And then the one time she did leave my side at that Angie barbecue, I tore her fucking head off for how she did it.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I went to the bathroom. I know, it's a shame you don't know how to go to bathrooms. No, it's true. But there's a way to go to the bathroom. That's learned behavior. It's like hood shit. But that comes from hood shit. For women, there's a way. I seriously can't even remember.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I feel like I had security take me? No, you had some strange... Random niggas. Hey, you know where the bathroom is? Oh, it's this way. Take me! Take me there! I wanna go there. Take me there. I want to go there. Take me there.
Starting point is 01:24:27 I want to go there. Take me there. This nigga's stupid. But you fucked up for watching and not stopping it, nigga. You watched the shit happening. If something went down that bathroom, you was complicit, nigga. You watched it. You watched her go.
Starting point is 01:24:39 He made you the point. You would say, yo, come here, man. You take money. You've been to a level. I gave her the look. She was fucked up. But she didn't recognize the look, come here, man. You take mine and you bend it to a level. I gave her the look. She was fucked up. But she didn't recognize the look, so she went off.
Starting point is 01:24:48 But when she came back and homeboy went wherever he went. I gave her the thrashing. She got it. Yeah, I did. She got it. I hate that I have to do that to Mel. It's OK. I learned my lesson that day.
Starting point is 01:24:57 She understands. That won't happen again around me. It's just Mr. Plus One. You know that, right? And you've got to stop that Plus One shit. You know that, right? And you gotta stop that Plus One shit. You get that shit off like you, as a man to be known as Mr. Plus One, you really comfortable with your sexuality,
Starting point is 01:25:13 your masculinity, you just comfortable. You a Plus One. You walked up the stairs as a Plus One. You went to the game as a Plus One. You went to the- I'm not mad at him going to the game as a Plus One. The Plus One is, okay. Give me some Plus One times'm not mad at him going to the game as a plus one. The plus one is okay.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Give me some plus one times. Y'all just say anything up here on these mics. Okay, cool, I can give it to you. The dinner you went to a while on them niggas, you was a plus one. I never went to dinner a while on my life. Duh. Simba.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Why was I a plus one? So Simba was a plus one, oh you invited him to dinner. Well, I'm asking you, because you're saying it. The point I'm trying to say that you are mr. plus one and you don't have well you told us about one time he was a plus one and it's sensitive so I'm joking on it but you told us one time when you said you was man you said that up here no Mandy said that and you brought it to the pot. Damn, Mandy, are you hearing Mandy? Mandy said, yo, it was my plus one, then you came in the pot.
Starting point is 01:26:07 And you gonna snuff me over. I'm not at all, I got a smile on my face. I'm not even remotely happy. You snuff somebody smiling? No, I can't. It ain't gonna hit hard. It ain't even gonna hit him hard. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Y'all just be making up shit, y'all. I think it's fly you get it off. And it says that the niggas don't want me to be their plus ones, I'm not, I'm not, it's, it's more from a jealous point of't want me to be there plus once I'm not ish It's more from a jealous point of view I'm company mandate consider this a company wide email. We're not letting Mel and Ish walk to the board together anymore nor we let Mel and Mark Lamont Hill walk to the board together anymore. Off mic she just spazzed on us. She said, motherfuckers, I'm the only one that
Starting point is 01:26:50 raced on the board. That is motherfucking right. The times that I have come in here and sat my ass down, guess what happened? The board stayed blank. Now that part turned out. Fucked up. Fire, right?
Starting point is 01:27:01 Absolutely. This is not her only time doing this. She ratted on niggas before i did not and we walked in the nigga called the meeting on the balcony you did rat i don't think that was ratting not only did wait wait how was that we waking it up not only did she rat and i called the meeting on the balcony about people's participation with the board then at the end of the meeting I tried to be a civil responsible dude. I was like, all right, does anyone here have anything that they would like to address the staff with?
Starting point is 01:27:36 I remember that. And nobody said none. And I looked at Mel and I was like, Mel? She, she's like, no. That was so foul. I'm good, y'all. I said, this fucking bitch. She act like, yo, Mel, yo. Hold the fuck up. I have addressed them before when
Starting point is 01:27:55 I was standing at the board. And everybody was just talking amongst themselves. No, she did that. She did do that before. Listen to me. Hold my hand. Yes. If you wasn't fine,
Starting point is 01:28:06 if she was, do you know how your life would be? If you was resprue, sir? Yo, if you didn't look the way you look and you pulled some of this shit, did you be trying to pull? Mel, you great. Mel, you sat there, I remember we all. My sister in Christ.
Starting point is 01:28:20 You, yo, yo, you're a saint. Yo. No, for real. Mel sat there like she didn't bring it to the niggas attention. He just called her random me in. He looked like the best. She sat there. That was her reading.
Starting point is 01:28:33 She was like, if like. Yo, he was hot. He was hot. Hold on, man. Wait, wait, let me just finish this. She was sympathizing with us because Ice, me-ish. How the hell did this came from? He was looking at me.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Ice was offended. And she just said that. Mel sat there and let me argue with people. You know what Ice got to argue. Ice didn't like that shit. Do y'all remember the time I was standing at the board and the three of you were just like chatting it up. I was like, I am not standing here
Starting point is 01:29:02 for the good of my motherfucking health. Can you guys help me with this fucking board? We thought you was having another one of your hissy fits. That's it. We just ignore it. I hate that it gets packaged like that. It's a hissy fit. We ain't talking about some business.
Starting point is 01:29:16 No. Am I standing here and you guys haven't seen me? This is talking to us now doing our shit again. It's not even because of that. You ran off mid-party pride before. A of that. You ran your mid-party pride before? A couple times. She ran off mid-party. Yo, why are you walking like that?
Starting point is 01:29:30 You gotta see more. She just shut my bar, Joe. Come back, man. Come back. Tell her about your work, Joe. Oh, shit, I'm supposed to be doing an ad. That has not happened in a long time. That is our time to sexualize you at the workplace, too.
Starting point is 01:29:41 You a different man. No problem. When you go to the bar. Your fast walks be fucked up. It don't look the same when the mark, mark Lamar walk up. You're like,. You a different man. No problem. When you go to the- Your fast walks be fucked up. Mark Lamar walk up, they like, nigga move, see what you're doing. Look at Mark now, day one, invested in the board.
Starting point is 01:29:53 With your baggy jeans. Hey. That's hate, that's hate, that's hate. A little bit, right? That's hate, that's hate. That's a little bit of hate. Actually what I did was I brought him over to the board. I said, now this is what happens when we come in today.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Okay, so this is what we do. When we come inside, we come to the board with our topics. And now today, you just want to walk to the board, would you? No, he came to the board last season. You don't even be here, you know? I'm ignoring you. Of course he walked to the board, but Mark was here.
Starting point is 01:30:22 He started to contribute, yes, I love it. He wanted to check the table. He came in. He went to check the game in with subjects Mark took him to the game made him feel better Your co-workers standing with me You're doing a night you free nigga What's wrong with me? You course I'd go on it Yo, you free tonight, nigga? What's wrong with me? Let me take you core side. Let me take you core side to the gas.
Starting point is 01:30:47 You ever been core side? You look good though. No, no, hold up. They gonna catch us on TV. And that nigga drove over there with gas prices at a, look at me about to pretend like I know we're gas prices. I don't know. But they got to be high. That nigga took the I-9-5.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Listen, man, me coming to the job is nothing against you. Yeah, I mean, I'm just here, I'm here to do a gig. I don't want you to feel intimidated by my presence. Yeah, I don't want you to feel no type of way about me. Nigga, I knew her before. We had great. I knew Mel before you, nigga. I met her first.
Starting point is 01:31:21 When I was a professor at L.I.U. That'd be my question. How did I get involved in at NYU. That'd be my question. How did I get involved in this shit? That'd be my question. I'm not even involved in this. How did she get to the pool? Yo, how did she get here? She know the managers.
Starting point is 01:31:33 This don't have nothing to do with her. How the fuck is she? All right, yo, it is time for my. Not a key fob, not a nothing. Not a nothing, she ain't got the code to the door, but she get in some shit. I'd be like, how did Mel get in this? She know the manager.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Just like Ish, I can be a plus one. You know, you queen plus one. Yeah. No, you a queen plus one. People like me. But you call for the plus one. I'm not even. They call Ish for plus one.
Starting point is 01:31:58 You call and invite them. No. Are you going to? Don't let him spin the narrative. I'm sorry. Don't let him do it. All right, it is time for my favorite part of the show. It's Price Picks time.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Woo-woo! Hey! Hey! Price Picks is the number one daily fantasy sports app in all of the land. Super easy, very simple to play. All you have to do is select two players across all sports I repeat all sports look at their projected stat line and pick more or less for your chance to win big
Starting point is 01:32:31 There's season-long games. There's all types of big money games over there But for this week, I am gonna go with let's see Justin Jefferson played already and got more than that 83 yards Let me see I'm riding got more than that 83 yards. Let me see. I'm riding hot hand again. That game pissed me off, carry on. Why?
Starting point is 01:32:47 Because of all the non-calls against the Vikings? The non-calls, I was hype. I'm like, oh, they got one last chance, a minute, 50 seconds left. I started. Dragged him down by the whole face mask. I'm like, oh, you killed my vibe right now. They killed me too.
Starting point is 01:33:00 I started Sam Darnall in fantasy because of that Jaden Daniels injury last week. I wasn't sure. So I started Sam Darnall in fantasy because of that Jaden Daniels injury last week. I wasn't sure. So I started Sam Darnall and I really would have liked him to cook up some magic on that last time. Yeah, at least give him a shot. And the rest are standing right there during that face mask. Face mask is one of the easiest shits to see. The whole helmet turned. His whole body turned around. And dude was running away like, oh I can't believe I got him by the face back like right now is not the time
Starting point is 01:33:25 Yeah, you can discuss it, but I have a good idea as to why some of these calls are yeah carry on Let's uh, but anyway, I'm going with say Kwan Barkley for more than 67 and a half rush yard Of course, I'm going with Tyree kill for now I'm a lower that number to for more than 80 receiving yard in I'm going with Jordan Love, your two is back, right? I'm going with Jordan Love for less than 257 and a half passing yards and I'm riding the high hand of Drake London. I got him with a touch down and more than 60 receiving yards. He's been heating up for me in the last four weeks.
Starting point is 01:34:00 I'm five and two got a big match up this week. Download the app today and use code J.B.P. to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup. I repeat, download prize picks today and use code J.B.P. to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup. Good luck to all participants out there and run your game. That's a fly line. Run your game. Smooth. Yeah, I like that. It's in the game. It's not like EA sports. It's growing on me, but... Yeah, run your game.
Starting point is 01:34:34 It's what? It's growing on me, pause. Like your shoes? My feet, nigga. Now my shoes ain't growing. I need to be 49 years old, so my foot is growing. This feel like a 12 a.m. drop. I'm feeling it, like the energy is good. Chasing it. Yeah, of course, I chase it. Chasing the midnight drop.
Starting point is 01:34:49 He like that midnight drop. It don't feel good when you outside moving around and this shit's all like, oh shit. That's just a weekend vibe, but you know how I feel about that. Don't chase it though. Don't chase it, it might happen, it might happen. Don't fuck it up though,
Starting point is 01:35:03 cause you, don't be Mr. Chaos today. No, no, I'm in a good mood. Yeah, let it flow. might happen. It might happen. Don't fuck it up though. Because you don't be Mr. Chaos today. No, no, I'm in a good mood. Yeah, let it flow. I'm in a great mood. I ain't got... What's up, man? It feel like a 12 a.m. dropped to you too, sis? Do you like the midnight drops? I love the midnight drops.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Do you know when it drops? Yeah, because people hit me that it dropped. Yes, just like all y'all. I get calls and texts when the shit drops early. Well he proves his shit. This thing got a whole, he proves his. Y'all niggas is ill. That's it.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Legend. Alright, we have brand new music from Summer Walker. Okay. I didn't hear this yet. Heart of a Woman. Like they hear it. Here it goes. of a woman The question is why I do the things I do
Starting point is 01:36:13 Answer I may never find but I'll always choose you Wanna give up on you but damn I know I can't I put the blame on me, forgive me your chances of the chance I Need love but you can't stand me And I try to be strong But how much can I put your words on Like this time And I hope your lips ain't lying cause
Starting point is 01:36:40 Only thing that's saving you Is the heart of a woman Yeah, oh yeah The only thing that's saving you Is the heart of a woman And let y'all do the review. Alright, what's the verdict? I like it. That's fire. Sounds good.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Older Phil. I absolutely love Summer Walker. I stand for- what music? I love Summer Walker music. I stand for Summer Walker music. Same. I think that she's got two classics under her belt. That's me. I'm not telling y'all to agree. And I think that the third installment and final installment,
Starting point is 01:37:33 I think this is finally over it, over it, still over it, finally over it. I think this is going to be more of the same. She's about to absolutely smoke this and fire at that Larry nigga this whole album. Larry, hey Larry. You made that nigga famous. Don't cop this. No, she made him famous.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Hey Larry, skip this drop my brother. She is about to kick your back in and fuck somebody better. Larry might be back in the building. Larry's not in the building, stop it. This is that same shit you try to pull with Offset and Cardi. I'm done with you. Where's Offset?
Starting point is 01:38:08 I don't know. Hmm. It's okay. You know something? Nope. You got some tea? Nope. I drink coffee. I look forward to hearing the Summer Walker project.
Starting point is 01:38:19 I was about to hit somebody to find out when it dropped. That's how thirsty I am. But it's just good to feel like a fan again. That's how thirsty I am. But uh, just good good Feel like a fan again. Yeah, give me some music It's been a few years since the last album this sounds fire very first Singlish or first drop ish from this but I can't wait to hear get getting her fuck Larry back That's it that's what I got for some of Walker That's what I got for Summer Walker. Sounded good, sounded good.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I didn't floss. I didn't do none of that crazy shit. I don't start looking. Did you pull out a lint brush while I'm on air? Yo, fuck with you, I didn't mean. Okay. Now don't do that, don't start the okay shit like, because I know what that means.
Starting point is 01:39:02 In subordinate? Okay, yeah, don't do that. Don't put that under my, don't put that in my that. Don't put that under my don't put that in my file How did this happen anyways, where'd all the fluff okay You know, I think that I speak for everybody were we're glad that you have, you know such impeccable hygiene habits But like why on camera? I don't know you've been checking me about that shit way before I can't believe you ratted on me last time, because you pulled me to the side. They were about to see it, and I didn't want to risk,
Starting point is 01:39:28 you know, some shit flying out of your teeth and landing on me. I understand, ma'am. I'm sorry. But you're trying to help get rid of me, so I see it bad, because all my day's off, you're just trying to call shit out. Yo, you got a lint brush?
Starting point is 01:39:43 Yo, you flossie your teeth. She did. Yo, whatever y'all doing, leave that at the pet farm. Hey. Whatever y'all doing, take that shit to SeaWorld or wherever the fuck y'all was at. Animal Kingdom. Yo, y'all got a pet farm around?
Starting point is 01:40:00 Yeah. Here, we talking about Summer Walker, not your lack of hygiene. What the fuck? Yeah, it was dope. Here, we talking about Summer Walker, not your lack of hygiene. Which one y'all think? Hmm. Summer Walker's lit. Let me weigh this out. Do y'all have any thoughts on the new Summer Walker project
Starting point is 01:40:16 and not Flips hygiene? Summer Walker, the song that I heard was nice. It reminds me, it's an old school feel, 90s feel like it said, whoever said it. Jay wants it to sound like Brandy. Yeah. That shit was nice. It reminds me. It's the old school feel 90s feel like it said whoever said it and Brandy yeah, that shit was fire. He gives it a little bit of a brandy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm jacking it I'm jacking that too Hard of a woman these young niggas. It's a heart of a woman bro. What was wrong with that? Nothing. That's good lingo All right. Okay, I got you.
Starting point is 01:40:47 What you? Summer is summer. Shout out to summer. Let's just be careful with our Brandy references. No. He loved Brandy. You think that's bad? I think that was a compliment.
Starting point is 01:41:00 She knocked him out of the oven for me. It's a compliment. It is a compliment. To one of those people. It gave me that it's a compliment to one of those people to one of those people like I think you should say it's slowed down a little bit to one of them who might be the heir to the Whitney voice throne talking Talk about how their relationship, I'm not talking about our father, their relationship. So yeah, let's cool it now just a little bit.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Let's let summer be summer. Miss Norwood, y'all should have a little more respect. I wasn't talking about the vocals. I was talking about the production. The sound. Yeah, say it though. Say it though. I wasn't talking about the vocals. I was talking about the sound. Yeah Say it though Miss Norwood is not to be played. So the nuances are needed. You know what we have had a lot of new hires
Starting point is 01:41:58 We had to let mark know about how we feel about Jay-z up here We need to make a list. I'm gonna make a list of the people that y'all need to just Treat with a little have a little more reverence for when we talk. I mean, Miss Norwood is on that list for me. Let's just be careful is all I'm saying. Think in another life you might've married her, yo. Well, yeah. If I could act right? Yeah, cause I don't think she tolerating that.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Imagine him and Ray J as own brother in laws. Holy shit, Thanksgiving would be insane. Y'all would be outta here. Like if I get cuz I don't think she tolerating that imagine him and Ray J as own brother-in-law's Goldmine you niggas would be out of here what Mona Scott would have been rich. Yeah, you know what's funny Don't like I do have I do have a theory and I'm wit what y'all are saying I also think the brandies and some of them, the Whitney's, some of them that are buttoned up. Be with the shit? All the way with the shit. I can concur. All the way with the shit.
Starting point is 01:42:53 You'll just never know it. Yeah, I just carry myself classy. Yeah, they just got class. But you think that Brandy or the likes of Brandy don't like a dick with some toxicity? I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all. Not that I'm in a pussy business.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I love Brandi. I love Brandi too much to even put her through the Joe Budden experience. Like, I don't think that's right. I don't think that's right. Sometimes you got to save people from yourself. Like, sometimes you can look at somebody and know the damage that.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Yeah, this is a piranha over here. Get out my water, please. Go ahead, girl, and sing them songs. Yeah, don't overdo it. Get out my water. Yeah. Cuz, and the reason you don't date them chicks that's all buttoned up like that,
Starting point is 01:43:41 anything they say publicly, they write. They could be dead ass wrong in the house. Like that whole Kiki Palmer and her man shit. I'm on my business, but I got some thoughts. If Brandi say Joe Button did some shit in the house, nigga, I did some shit in the house. It ain't no fight in that. I love you, Randy. Anyway. Anyway. Anything else in music? Not a ton. Anybody from your Backpacker Boys came out?
Starting point is 01:44:10 Shane Newell dropped a great project, self-produced, Lotus Child. Megan Thee Stallion dropped a deluxe, which is a whole 13 new songs. So it's a new album. I don't understand that. I'm never listening to Megan Thee Stallion. It sounded pretty good.
Starting point is 01:44:23 I only listened to like two or three songs. It sounded pretty good. I just don't understand two or three songs. It sounded pretty good. I just don't understand why you wouldn't put that out as a new album. It's weird. If it's that many songs, yeah. Yeah. And I'm saying that but her last album did have some songs that I f***** would. I play some of them.
Starting point is 01:44:35 You would probably like some of those. I play some of them snake sounding songs. I just think she needed to change up the tempo of some of the songs. Yeah, the tempo and the rhyme style is a little consistent, but I don't have a problem with that. Well, me neither. I'm not going to listen to her consistently enough
Starting point is 01:44:50 for that to be a problem. I get you. I get you. But shout out to her. Yeah, shout out to her. Who else? Who else? Y'all don't give a fuck about music when it drops, right?
Starting point is 01:44:58 Like, Friday comes, y'all don't even check the iTunes store. Look at these niggas. We don't. It was a pretty quiet week in their defense. We looked at Pauks, Ice ain't here. We wish he used to have it. I'll speak for Ice. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:12 The East Side has dropped. I'm excited about that. Snoop presents the EP. Still East Side, or still Eastie. West Coast. And speaking of Ice, I think Gucci dropped a record. Oh, he did? OK.
Starting point is 01:45:24 With somebody. Hem and Sexy. There you go, Hem and Sexy Red. I think Gucci dropped a record. Oh, he did? Okay. With somebody. Him and Sexy. There you go, him and Sexy Red. I'm sure that's fire. I'll wait for Ice to play it for me before I hear it. I'm gonna listen to everything tonight. Not I. Tonight, crazy as hell. So you ain't gonna sit by the night?
Starting point is 01:45:38 No, no, no, no. You on punishment? No, nigga, chillin'. You on punishment? He don't, chillin'. You want punishment? He don't need to go outside no more now that he got the love from his father this week. That's what it was. I was outside trying to get you love. He ain't outside trying to fill that empty void.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Timmy, where have you been? Father! I love this game. Alright musicians, have at it. Have at it. I have absolutely nothing else in music. Yeah,, musicians, have at it. Have at it. I have absolutely nothing else in music. Yeah, it's a pretty quiet week. All right.
Starting point is 01:46:09 It's a pretty quiet week. What else we got? Do you guys want to talk about Menendez brothers possibly getting parole? Shout out to them. OK, well, the district attorney in California has basically said that he is going to recommend to the judge who is going to...
Starting point is 01:46:25 Resentencing. Yeah, well, he's recommending resentencing. You on top of this Menendez shit. You're like, Dem Kardashian. No, I mean, I think... You ain't Mr. Beat with this shit. Well, I mean, like, it's hard not to because it's all over our televisions.
Starting point is 01:46:37 I mean, first we had the Ryan Murphy, you know, series, and then we have their voices talking about their perspective of everything. They've been in jail for, like, uh, series. And then we have their voices talking about their perspective of, of everything. They've been in jail for like over 30 years. 34 years. And they did a 2020 on these dudes recently. I watched that as well. And there's HBO, it's everywhere. And then in light, exactly in light of all the new evidence, um, from the former member of Menudo talking about the sexual assault that he experienced in the hands of their father. Now the district attorney is basically saying, I'm going to recommend that they get parole eligibility immediately.
Starting point is 01:47:13 That's huge because they were like facing life imprisonment without parole forever. He also was down a couple of points. He's up for reelection. One of the- Yeah, the district attorney. Yes. Yeah, Gascon. Yeah, he was down like 30 percent.
Starting point is 01:47:25 How do we feel about that? I think they should get free. I think that they should be eligible for parole because they're not a danger to society. And I think that that's one of the considerations when it comes to being eligible for parole. They're not a danger to society. And with the circumstances around the fact that they may have been telling the truth about being sexually abused and that not having been taken into account during their trial Yeah, I feel so cracking a naked shit
Starting point is 01:47:56 I think if that second if the second doctor came out it was valid and the shit that was Left out of the trial is true. Then it would have been probably a manslaughter charge. They still killed people at the end of the day, mortally. And I think that their time would have been. So I feel sexual abusers should be tortured to some degree. So if their father, who's supposed to be their hero, sexually abused them. Come on, let's skip this guy's dad trauma.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Nah, this ain't. Can we skip this? My dad should be Yeah, not it's a good we skip All the time what the fuck And respect the 1v1 man, let them clear out you see is cracking his neck I think it's bullshit. You think what's bullshit them get early release It's been 34 years. You don't give a fuck would it been. You is the niggas that have gone to jail for less, did life. And if we are going to allow somebody's trauma to justify them committing criminal acts, then free the whole ghetto. I'm not mad.
Starting point is 01:48:58 Oh, great. I'm free to get off. I'm not I'm not a fan of that. I think it's bullshit. I think that the media attention and the spotlight that's been put upon the case has now allowed them the benefit of getting sympathy from the masses, but the sympathy don't give us masses
Starting point is 01:49:15 when we do violent crime. And that's true. But you don't identify with trauma anyway. Who don't identify with trauma? Let me just say that. From conversations, it don't seem like you really take the trauma serious. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:49:27 It's therapy, it's therapy that he doesn't really believe in. My apologies. I'm saying that speaking to you and coming from you, I would expect an answer like that because you're just a macho man. That's not, I didn't say- That's how I feel. Nah, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:49:41 I feel like watching them, you know, if they father did that, I do understand what you're saying, but if they father did that to them, a lot of, back in those days, they didn't feel like men suffered from those things like sexual assault. It wasn't really highlighted when it came to men, you know, it was shunned, it's only women experienced those things. So I feel like- It's still taboo.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Yeah, it's taboo. So I feel like, you know, these, a lot of times if a girl is kidnapped and she kills her killer, not killed, kills her kidnapper, you know, she does time, but a woman, she gets out- Or sex trafficked. Yeah, sex trafficked. She gets out at a decent-
Starting point is 01:50:18 Good point, great point. You know, time. So, but I understand what you say, because I felt the same way until I saw the story and then I watched the documentary, I'm like, okay. You empathize with them a little more. Yeah, empathize with them a little more, yeah. So do you feel they shouldn't be released
Starting point is 01:50:31 because of the killing part? Or because of the way they did it? I think that their killing was graphic. I think that their killing was premeditated. And I think that, again, not saying that those guys didn't have, if those things were accurate and that that stuff really took place they definitely had a right to feel you know contempt and disdain for their family I just think that it sets a precedent like what about all the people that did
Starting point is 01:50:56 similar shit that just didn't have their case televised they still locked up so I think it's unfair to let go some and not let go all. I think it's unfair that we are talking about the resentencing, that we're talking about the television shows as it pertains to the resentencing and not some of the new evidence that they found. I don't believe that a television show alone is going to get people granted new trials. Steven Avery's still in jail. But if there's new evidence and he ain't getting out, I don't know why he thought Trump was getting him out of jail. Doug, we just had a case less than a month ago where somebody was executed.
Starting point is 01:51:40 The district attorney begged for him to not be executed. The quote unquote. The prosecutor. The victim's family that they thought was a victim begged for him not to be prosecuted under the guise of new evidence that exonerated the gentleman. He still got executed. You understand what I'm saying? I do, but I don't think that you should hold... Just because he didn't get the right thing done.
Starting point is 01:52:07 It's a proper thing. I don't mean I shouldn't get proper. But he's saying that unfair treat... He's saying that... It's unfair justice. It's unfair justice. I don't understand what he's just saying. But to that point, how you saying, like, basically saying the TV and everything gets given... We just had this conversation a few pods back.
Starting point is 01:52:22 They did that with Diddy. They're using the TV and shit to make him look a pain away. So regardless how it go, it can be in your favor or not in your favor. True, true, true. I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying that y'all asking me why I'm paying on the case.
Starting point is 01:52:35 I'm just saying, I think that, you know, it's drug sellers that got life that didn't do a violent crime. They got life for selling drugs. I just think-'re too violent. Oh, you're not able to look at this isolated. Yeah. That's what it sounds like.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I'm with you on that part, by the way. Like drug dealers should not probably serve life. Yeah, I agree. I know people personally that got life that's literally doing life right now. I don't think someone else shouldn't get fair justice because somebody else isn't getting it. But because you think drug dealers shouldn't get it, like, there's people that think what
Starting point is 01:53:05 drug dealers do is bad, just because you don't think it's as bad as killing. That's their opinion. I'm not knocking their opinion. So new evidence, you're saying that new evidence was found and that's what we should be focusing on. Well, I mean, the fact of the matter is that- You can't fuck the Manudo boy. Like, what do you do?
Starting point is 01:53:20 They're as blind as that. Like, dog. And they found an old letter from the kids to a family member. Yeah, a letter to his cousin. I want him to get out. I do want him to get out. 34 years is 34 years and your parents doing their abuse, it's like I can't speak to what that means. And not only that, when we talk about prison, you know, they talk about the whole, you know, re- Oh yeah, you did time.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Well not, shut up. You did do time. You went to jail, you went to prison for some reason. I did not go to prison. Speak city experience. I did not, I didn't go to prison. I was in jail. There's a big difference between the two, okay?
Starting point is 01:53:53 But when they talk about prison, they talk a lot about rehabilitation. And a lot of times that's just really bullshit. But these guys have been exemplary prisoners. They have gotten college degrees and they run prison programs, and they do all this stuff. Why did that sound so anti-black? What? I don't feel like you should be able to say that.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Say what? Like that all the rehabilitation talk is bullshit a lot of times. Like, do we have facts to support that? Well, yeah. It depends on what angle she comes from. In this country. It depends on where the angle she's coming from. Go ahead. You all want to be in touch. No, I'm talking on what angle she comes from. In this country. Yeah. It depends on what angle she's coming from.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Go ahead. You all want to be in touch. No, I'm talking from the angle that, like... Y'all don't think the rehabilitation programs work in prison? No. Are you serious or are you joking? I'm dead.
Starting point is 01:54:36 No, I'm not even talking about rehabili... They faking jacks? I'm not even talking about rehabilitation programs. I'm talking about being in prison and it being a rehabilitative experience. That's bullshit that's what I'm saying I would say for some for some though that's totally not bullshit what side are you standing on that prison does rehabilitate or can I'm
Starting point is 01:54:58 not saying okay so do you want to talk about So I just don't think it's fair to state factually that prison can't rehab. That's true. I don't think that that's a fair assessment. I agree with that too. And prison can make you worse. It can as well. So that's why I don't- So I think this is case by case basis.
Starting point is 01:55:17 It can as well. So I don't want to apply it as a blanket statement. It just jumps out at me when it is a blanket statement because prison rehabbed my dad. Indeed. That makes sense. So I don't want to issue it as a blanket statement because prison rehab, my dad. Indeed. Mm-hmm. That makes sense. So I don't wanna issue it as a blanket statement. I wanna issue that as a generalized statement. So let me just be clear on that.
Starting point is 01:55:33 That's better. So when it comes to the Menendez brothers, they're not a danger to society. Yes, they did a heinous crime, but it was directed to the people that, they've given examples of the fact that they like abuse them. And so I don't know, I'm just on the side of them getting parole.
Starting point is 01:55:48 And also, I don't know why it's now, but we've read and seen lots of documentaries about them over the course of like the last 20, 30 years. This is not the first time that they've produced documentaries based on the Menendez brothers. It's just now new evidence has come to light in conjunction with a lot of media attention. This had the best acting, this had the best budget, this had the best production. Yeah, but I also think that the fact that the main factor that you know what you guys were saying
Starting point is 01:56:18 about men you know and male children exactly the taboo of male children being abused it's a different era in which we're living, it's a different conversation. We have a different mindset when it comes to that. Whereas, maybe 20 years ago, it was still very much something that just didn't want to be, you know, people just didn't want to talk about. Yeah, and you know, now people with power, with money and power, you know, they're trying to highlight a lot of times that people with money and power do power, you know, they're trying to highlight a lot of times
Starting point is 01:56:45 that people with money and power do whatever they want and get away with it. So you have to be fair all around the board. That's just my stance on it. You know what I'm saying? If they, you know, the parents were rich and they were being sexually abused by their father, they felt like they had nowhere to go.
Starting point is 01:56:58 They didn't, you know, it's just, we hear about these stories and, you know, free them. Gotcha. Free the bros. Well, not our bros, but free the Menendez bros. Yeah, yeah. Boom! You brought it up? It is. No I didn't. No I didn't bring it up. She brought it up. You brought up the vibe. Niggas say free the gang and that's it.
Starting point is 01:57:27 It's over. It's a Friday. It is the fucking weekend. Some people are traveling, some niggas are doing shit that's lit right now. Here we go with all this depressing shit. Fuck out here. I want to say something too. I'm going to say something too.
Starting point is 01:57:35 I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too.
Starting point is 01:57:43 I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. I'm going to say something too. Some niggas is doing shit that's lit right now. Here we go with all this depressing shit. Fuck out here. I wanna say something too. Ooh, I wanna thank you for, you just woke me up real quick. And I wanna, it's about something with women and dating. I have something that I wanna say, Joe. I'd love to hear about that. Whenever the hook, you know, this shit's a long.
Starting point is 01:58:03 So this is the time he was getting fucked, bro. This is the time he was fucking, bro. Let me fuck before the verse come on. I can catch it. I can catch it. I can catch it quicky and fast. Count me in. Count me in.
Starting point is 01:58:18 That's what he was doing. Yo Quincy, where you at, nigga? I wanna talk to that nigga, yo Joe, interview that nigga. Quincy Elycha, fuck it up. I to that nigga, Joe Joe, interview that nigga. Quincy, I light your fucking ass up. No, I don't wanna smoke with him, he's a legend. See, he only know you're talking to Quincy, a legend. Yo, it's all right, shoot that Quincy, Quincy, I light you up.
Starting point is 01:58:31 You know how little smart glasses we got? Gotta be fast, gotta be quicker than that. Shit hurt my heart. Gotta be fast, young blood. I don't buy them shit. That's why I'm buying. Cause I lead them shit some way, hats and glasses. I gotta limit up glasses too. They don't stand a shits. That's why I'm buying them. Cause I'll leave them shit somewhere, hats and glasses. I got to limit on glasses too.
Starting point is 01:58:47 They don't stand a chance with me. I bought a fucking cashmere, dope ass cashmere beanie. I wore that shit about four times, I was tight. I don't, that's why I'm buying. I was gonna get you big glasses when I got these, but they was Ray-Bans and then I felt bad. I didn't know. Ray-Bans is cool.
Starting point is 01:59:02 I didn't know if Ish would wear the Ray-Bans, so I just did. Why you didn't get him some fly shit like you had, didn't know it's issue with weird Ray Bans. So I just did it. Why you didn't get him some fly shit like you had? Let's get him some nasty ish. They wasn't a bad pair of Ray Bans. Ray Bans are classy. What's your classes? These?
Starting point is 01:59:12 Yes. Those are Louis. These are Louis. Don't buy me Ray if you gonna buy Luke. Yeah. Oh shit. Same thing with the car and the old school shit. You ain't gonna buy a nigga less than that.
Starting point is 01:59:22 I love when we bump into a topic. You ain't proud of the baby, gotta have proud of him. I love when we bump into a topic by mistake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that the rule on gift giving? No. No. No. It depends.
Starting point is 01:59:32 You just freestyled that rule. That's not true. Now he's gonna try to defend it. Nah, I'm just saying that depends. I'm not going, if I'm buying some, at the same time. That's the problem. If you buying some shit at the same time,
Starting point is 01:59:43 like me and my man go out to eat, I'm not to get my man pizza and I got a fucking Tomahawk. But you're not shopping together, that's the difference. I'm not going to bring you parts back. If I'm like, yo, I'm going to get some food, you want something, you're like, yeah, get me, bring me something. But he was just bringing you a gift. I know. He didn't have to know that he was buying the food at the same time.
Starting point is 02:00:01 But he just told them. Yeah, he shouldn't have let me know. Black people have. We have. We got it. We got it. We got it. Spend your money.
Starting point is 02:00:11 It's human decency. I would say thank you for the sunglasses. I would say the same thing. I would say the same thing. But not wear it, right? But don't show it to me when you do it. Like, yeah, when I bought you these Ray-Bans, I bought these Louis. Well, then that's what, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 02:00:21 That's what I'm saying. That's what he did. No, he didn't buy them sunglasses at all. No, he said, yo, I was going to get you something when I got you these. I was going to get you something when I got you these. I was going to get you something when I got you these. I was going to get you something when I got you these. I was going to get. That's what I'm saying. That's what he did. No, he said, yo, I was gonna get you something when I got these. And I said, oh, what's those? They were in the same section? No, of course not. The Ray Ban store was, I passed it to get to the Louie store. Got you, because I know you went straight to Louie. You didn't go to those little shits in the center of the mall. No, I didn't go to the kiosk. You ain't going to the kiosk.
Starting point is 02:00:45 I ain't going there. Exactly. For a pineapple. And I dubbed the dude at the kiosk too. And I didn't feel bad about it, but maybe for a second. I was running in one of the stores, he'd come and look at it, yo, yo, check out my upper cover, I ain't got this right here. Yo, yo, look at this. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:06 Recently? And on my way out, the other day, and on my way out, he was right there when I came out. Yo, yo, check it out, check it out. No. They got you on tape doing that shit. I'm not coming to check nothing out. My checking out days are over.
Starting point is 02:01:24 I'm sorry, young boy. My checking out days. Over. Over, I'm sorry. Yeah. First of Fab Boys break up. I wish you well and good luck, but I'm not coming to check out. If you wish me well, nigga, spend $27 over here. No. Call no. $27?
Starting point is 02:01:39 Some of that shit at the kiosk that the niggas be, I'll buy the socks, I'll buy the socks a lot. I'm getting you some break bands, fuck that. I am, now that I heard your response, I gotta have this thing. All right, so let's get to it. Is hip hop media just not worthy anymore? Worthy of?
Starting point is 02:01:58 Of getting to have interviews with our favorite artists. Are the days of Ed Lovin, Dr. Dre, Fab Five, Freddie, are the days just audio? But Donnie Simpson, is it over? This is from a Punch tweet where Punch said, I gotta find it, but he said, basically, we're not sitting with y'all. Yeah, I would think that-
Starting point is 02:02:22 This is coming off the heat of Kendrick doing the Harper Bazaar interview and him catching some flack for it being Harper Bazaar and I guess not- Not a black room. Yeah. And Punch said that we done fucking with y'all basically. Punch Tweet says,
Starting point is 02:02:39 I respect hip hop journalism and feel it's needed in its truest form. It helps keep the culture alive, but it's only a few real ones left. Most of you guys are trash, just my opinion. That's why artists don't wanna talk to you. I feel them. That's what he said.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Would've been interesting if he said who he feels the real ones are that's left. He went through it like on Twitter. Punches a class out of you, not gonna do that because then you're gonna gate other people that you might have a relationship with. He went through it on Twitter though. Punches a class out of you, you're not gonna do that because then you're gonna gate other people that you might have a relationship to. He went through it on Twitter though, gave certain people they praises like subliminally.
Starting point is 02:03:08 That's what I mean, without saying who he thinks is shit, he can just say who he holds in a high regard. And the people that you don't. There's so many, there'd be so many. Mel just confusing rap rules. She's rapped so much that she don't even know what is in the back. What's that you know what's not?
Starting point is 02:03:24 Yeah, that's, sometimes you can rap. And you got relationships know what's not? Yeah, that's sometimes you could rat. And you got relationships with some of the niggas that you might think are trash. Hold up, sometimes you could rat by elimination. Jaewon, what did he say? Who did he highlight? He didn't highlight one person specifically, but he did respond to one person and say,
Starting point is 02:03:39 this is not in regard to them. Eric, Eric Die App on Twitter said, just talked about Punch's tweet in therapy because it made me that upset. I think we need to start using this app for more positive conversations about rap journalism, like talking about our favorite pieces from this year or songs that we liked.
Starting point is 02:03:58 It is so negative on here. Punch retweeted that and said, a couple of people sent me this post earlier and I thought about it. My comments made you so upset that you spoke with your therapist about it. Imagine what artists must go through when things are written about them.
Starting point is 02:04:13 He cleared the fuck out of him with that. That's why my original post asked, is it okay to criticize the critics? End quote. I fuck with him for that. What? I fuck with him. What? What? I fuck with them. What?
Starting point is 02:04:26 Talk to your therapist about it. Yo, man. Some Twitter shit is. That's some bitch shit. If my post made you talk to a therapist, imagine what the artists are talking about in their therapy sessions. When y'all say negative shit about them
Starting point is 02:04:37 or when y'all critique them, I think that... This is a conversation you usually had, like amongst artists, when they say like when they do their vlogs or whatever like older, um, the critics or the blogs, they say, and this and that it didn't blogs to say, man, shut up, be an artist. But then you see, now you see the higher ups in the labels, the punches, the other, the other higher ups engaging. Now it's like y'all being harsh of us, but it's like, don't hold up the mirror
Starting point is 02:05:06 if you can't look at the mirror yourself. So I feel totally how punch feels. And I think you're right. I think that nowadays anybody with a microphone in front of them thinks that they're a journalist and that may not necessarily be true. Like journalists- It's oftentimes not true.
Starting point is 02:05:20 99% of the time it's not true. Journalists go to school, dog. They learn techniques on how to interview, they learn techniques on school, dog. They learn techniques on how to interview. They learn techniques on how to write. They learn techniques on how to do certain shit from people that are. Some people just got it. And they're also just creatives, by the way.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Real journalists are creatives. And if I'm sitting down with Drake, I'm going to think of an angle to talk about things that he's not going to go to. That's going to make it interesting. Exactly. We don't have to restrict this to journalists, because he said hip hop media, which is not just the journal. The journalists deal in facts. I don't have to restrict this to journalists because he said hip hop media, which is not just the journalists.
Starting point is 02:05:46 The journalists deal in facts. I don't. But they don't necessarily either. They'll ask questions for engagement. You know what I'm saying? Like shit that they may not even know to be factual or to know to be true. They'll take, like Park said, a certain angle
Starting point is 02:06:00 to invoke shit out of the guest or the artist. Nowadays, everybody is just spewing gossip, you know what I'm saying, or trying to be salacious, or because it's the internet generation trying to get clicks. So it takes away from the necessarily, the integrity of journalism and media in itself. A lot of it comes off disingenuine. Like, we'll see often times certain pods or radio hosts
Starting point is 02:06:24 or journalists say, oh, this artist ain't due here, but you go through their timeline. They kick the artist back in for weeks, months. They shit on them. So I feel like it's really just a matter of niggas being mad. They're not getting certain interviews they feel they should get or are entitled to. And it's like, why do you feel you're entitled to this? Why are you more deserving than this person is?
Starting point is 02:06:47 I think the media space is just, cause niggas is monetizing it, that they just doing whatever they gotta do to get clicks and that don't necessarily be in the best interest of the artist. That's a fact. So I agree with him a thousand percent, a million percent. I think it's a crock of shit. What punch that? I think there's truth in it
Starting point is 02:07:08 but the truth is buried under the crock of shit and I've had this talk with punch before so I mean I don't really feel the need to have it publicly. Well let me see let me go to what you said. What was some of the criticism that Kendrick received doing the Harper's Bazaar article? The criticism was, you keep talking this pro-blackity, blackity, blackity, black shit and how Drake is a culture vulture and yet anytime you get a chance to represent culture, it's normally through a white outlet. Didn't they try to criticize you too? Well, they've done that forever, but for what?
Starting point is 02:07:48 They said you praised Kendrick for his interview and doing it, but you kicked Drake back in for going on the other side. So they tried that with you also. I saw them say that I kicked Drake's back in for doing the interview with Yachty. Yeah. And they came for whole two with people. Yo, y'all idiots can't never speak for me. Y'all try your best because of that little absence check
Starting point is 02:08:13 y'all get on the 21st. But y'all can't speak for me. My brain is way too warped, and I have way too many multiple personalities for any of y'all out there to just assume this is what Joe Budden was thinking. I absolutely love Drake sitting with Yachty during the interview. My disdain came from Yachty being allowed to go to the studio after that. He did say that. I said it then I'll say it now. I love seeing peer to
Starting point is 02:08:42 peer communication. I don't need some of those peers in the studio while some of them are cooking up. I don't need that. As far as Kendrick goes, anything I say here, they're going to say I'm chasing an interview because I bigged Kendrick up for so long during the beef. I could give two fucks if Kendrick don't sit with me and that's why I have a problem with what punch is saying. When you say hip-hop media there are way too many options to choose from for you to lump all of those people
Starting point is 02:09:20 under one umbrella of hey y'all talk bad about the artist and the artist feel away, so they don't want to talk to you. That is a crock of shit. You can't tell me that. Now, many of us in hip-hop media choose to speak about you rather than to you because the gig is the gig. But where I come from, the hip hop that I know, even those things led to more anticipation
Starting point is 02:09:48 for an amazing interview, right? Like when Chance came up here and did the part, I was kicking Chance's back in for months about that fake independent shit, about the three hats, about so many things. And he was listening and he said, you know what, I'm gonna face you and I'm gonna we're gonna have the discussion and we did and it was important at the time who else Big Sean when I sat with him most before
Starting point is 02:10:13 that I was kicking his back and some I've had a lot of interviews where I was kicking somebody back in and they came right to the smoke rather than say hey this person's been talking about me, and my feelings are hurt, so I don't want to go. I don't even like his point to homeboy that had to go to therapy. Homeboy that had to go to therapy is a dude sitting at home somewhere who knows what he
Starting point is 02:10:36 works and where he works and what his home life is like. He is not performing in front of millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people. He's not required to have the same tough skin that some of our entertainers are required to have today. But is that an unfair requirement to punch his point? Is that an unfair requirement that these are still human beings, one, and just because my career puts me in front of a million people, that doesn't mean that I can be disrespected
Starting point is 02:11:10 or I should be disrespected and just have to tolerate that. But see, and that's where we conflate points. Yes, I agree with that. I also don't think everybody in hip hop media kicked one person's back in. There are too many people in hip-hop media. Find the person that is true and aligns with whatever you're trying to do
Starting point is 02:11:33 and talk to that person then. I just think it gets real murky when artists today won't sit with anybody. I agree with that. And I said that about Harper's Brothers Hall. I said, I thought it would have been a negative if they didn't let SZA interview him. I think that we basically beat the critique
Starting point is 02:11:53 by allowing SZA to sit with Kendrick, as opposed to some white media person or some white interviewer that fucking grew up in Connecticut. No disrespect to Connecticut. And it's possible he wouldn't have done the interview if SZA was the one that wasn't conducting it. I didn't knock that, but let's say this.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Why couldn't we have SZA interview him for a black media publication? Is it too much to assume that whatever mediation or artist does align with isn't getting the numbers or won't get the response, and that's why they don't do it. I mean, that's one of the critiques. But that's part of, I want to focus on what you're saying, because that's part of my critique, right?
Starting point is 02:12:33 J-One is right. When you're talking about appealing to the masses and you talk about stars and a certain level of audience, that includes white people. True, thousand percent. Like if you're talking only blacks, then we're talking about playing with a quarter of the Monopoly board. So I'm not mad at that, but the same way that you go and speak to them, I think it should be equally as important to find the person in hip hop, hip hop specific, not just black, hip hop media that you can sit with. I think if Kendrick never sits with anybody, we are well within our right to kick his fucking
Starting point is 02:13:03 back in. I also don't see a world where Kendrick won't sit with a big boy, or sit with a sway, or sit with, I don't see, they have to show me that he won't do that for me to believe that. See Drake I know that about, because of how he's going about interviews
Starting point is 02:13:22 since that Elliot Wilson interview, how that interview went, how the interviews, like I know that about him now. Like even recently, not recently, but a few years ago, he tried to do some shit where all the media people come up here, we'll do the interviews, I edit it up, slice it up. No, nigga, no, no, no, this ain't going like that.
Starting point is 02:13:37 I don't wanna talk to nobody that, that ain't interview. Sure. If you just gonna dictate the questions, the answers, the footage and everything, then that don't count for shit. I think Punch is right that a lot of hip hop media is trash. But I think Homeboy is right. There's a lot that's great about hip hop media
Starting point is 02:13:59 that's not highlighted by the people that we need it highlighted by, because you all represent very sensitive artists and. Because y'all represent very sensitive artists and y'all have to deal with very sensitive artists. I don't think that part is highlighted enough too. Like I'm sure that Punch and some other executives have stories upon stories upon stories about how they've had to walk a artist off the ledge because of something that I said or something that Axe said or something that somebody in hip-hop media said and when you on that
Starting point is 02:14:28 side of it why wouldn't you protect your artists by saying no we're not talking to nobody and we don't need to true but I want to I want to point that they don't need to but I mean does it come with a certain optic you fucking right it does two things to I'm a grand two things I think that we get caught up in judging people as opposed to judging their art And I think that if you judge somebody's art from an objective standpoint you could say yo, I don't like that album I don't like that person necessarily as an artist I think what we get caught up is we start getting into personal shit about these people that we don't know but that also goes both ways.
Starting point is 02:15:05 A lot of times artists, and I can speak as being a part of projects that someone reviewed, sometimes you take it personally and don't like that outlet when they're critiquing the music. And a lot of fans, when they have critiques of what we say about Drake or Kendrick or whoever, are like, oh, you don't keep that same energy for Drake or whatever.
Starting point is 02:15:21 And it's like, we're talking about the music. See, and sometimes, sometimes we're not. If we're talking about the music. See, sometimes we're talking about the music. Then I think that person is just need to get over it because dog, I might've liked your last project. I might not like this project. It says nothing about you personally. Stay right there because that's an important distinction to make. Oftentimes you be talking about somebody music and that person be listening and hear you. And now they take offense to what you're saying.
Starting point is 02:15:46 I think that's on them. Yeah, but, yeah, yeah, but... I think that's on them. No. The last two times I've hit SZA, or not I've hit SZA, but that I've had communication with SZA, it don't even have to be about nothing,
Starting point is 02:15:58 but she remind me that I seen that nigga Ice and whoever up there talking shit about my project and it's up for life with them niggas We could be talking about Easter But she makes sure to say hey, I remember that Ice never said nothing personally about True, but a lot of times like an artist will look at their art as an extension of themselves possibly It's definitely true. Listen, what I'm saying is I think that's on them. Me personally, if you start attacking a person,
Starting point is 02:16:28 you start attacking their character, you start attacking stuff about them personally, we have this thing that, yo, the gig is the gig, and you signed up for that. And somebody might not have signed up for that. That is something that is almost always said when you start attacking somebody. It's like, yo, my nigga, you a multimillionaire,
Starting point is 02:16:44 why the fuck do you care what I say? That's people's perspective. Ice used to say that when he was a troll. Yo, dog, you winning, you up, why the fuck you care what I say? That's not necessarily, people got feelings, my nigga. When you become a millionaire, I don't mean that your feelings go away.
Starting point is 02:16:59 True. You get what I'm saying? So I think that it's on the artist, if we are objectively, objectively critiquing their music or their project or their acting or that movie, because you could not like Denzel in one movie and you can love Denzel in another movie, it don't say that you are personally attacking Denzel Washington.
Starting point is 02:17:16 Well, sometimes they do add personal attacks to it, and that's what I think the problem is. Saying your music isn't good, but then trying to get into what's currently going on with them is attacking their personal life. Like, yo, he would do some joke shit like that. I can see why people be mad. Yo, I don't know what's going on. You need to go back there to that nigga
Starting point is 02:17:35 or go back and do that. That's a personal attack to the person. That's also a privilege I have because I don't solicit interviews. True. I don't look actively, look for them, ask for them. I turn most of them away. That's true.
Starting point is 02:17:50 I live and die on that. True. And right, I think the artists and punch have a right to say all hip hop media is trash and we're not doing any of it. Okay, then you go be black media then. You become, because these people are already powerhouses amongst themselves. Kendrick could sit with punch and we watching it.
Starting point is 02:18:14 Sure. For sure. Or go find a young black journalist that just graduated from school or. Yeah, unearth somebody. It's possible. Unearth somebody, but this whole stance of all hip hop media is trash, so yeah, artists are well within their right to fucking not talk to anybody. Yeah, but then deal with what comes with that.
Starting point is 02:18:34 Deal with what comes with that. There's a lot of amazing journalists. You know what's crazy though? From based off everything you're saying, especially about the critique and aspect, I think media, you would say, tend to forget how artists view their art. And Lil Tecca just said this in an interview, you could work on a project for a year, two years, sometimes five years, for one day for that to be
Starting point is 02:18:59 when it released and everybody just shit on it. So artists really hold a personal, a personal, what would it be? Love and attachment to their work. So when it's not received how they would hope for people to receive it. That's what comes with the gig. Now I think that's the gig. But that's where it becomes murky.
Starting point is 02:19:21 No, that's artists having the gig fucked up. I think that's the gig. Once you release the art, it's not yours. Sure. It's yours while you're doing it. Once we get it, it's ours. Open for interpretation. It ain't for you to have this attachment to,
Starting point is 02:19:38 to whereas you about to hate people to have something negative to say about it. That's a crap of shit. But that's artists. That's how artists act. So it's really, you either gonna deal with it or you not. As an artist and as media. Sensitive thugs, you all need hugs.
Starting point is 02:19:51 That's what I say. But it kind of goes back to the early conversation in the podcast. Which early conversation? The dark shit. Well... I don't remember. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:20:02 Just the whole situation, like... The sole interpretation. Yeah. Shout out the punch, but it's kind of confusing to me. Oh, the dark shit. Yes. Got it. It's kind of confusing to me because Kendrick has had a hell of a year. So I'm kind of confused on the stance right now.
Starting point is 02:20:20 You know what I mean? It's not like he had, like niggas was dissing him and then everybody's been praising him and praising what he's done. So... But he might not have forgot the negative shifts from two years ago. Sometimes that happened. Because everybody didn't appreciate, well, some people did, but everybody wasn't bigging up the Mr. Morale.
Starting point is 02:20:39 True. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, true. So a lot of people had some negative reactions to that. But I just think that if somebody not attacking you personally as an artist, then that's the gig. I don't have to like your last project. You know what I'm saying? And again, I could have bigged you up for three projects in a row.
Starting point is 02:20:56 This one ain't hit like them. Right. That's art. I think you're going to look at it. And then but we respond to that, too. Like they need to say a whole bunch of positive shit about us. We're not going to respond. We, we gonna charge it to the game. And as soon as they say the negative shit, we gonna jump in and wanna respond to them.
Starting point is 02:21:11 That's just how society is made. That's also human nature. Yeah, it's human nature. Niggas like to attack negativity. Like, you feel me? And I think that's just what it is. It's easier to attack and go at the negativity versus embracing the love,
Starting point is 02:21:26 because it sometimes feel like the negativity is the true feeling versus when a person's like, oh, you did good. And we see it even in the community on Twitter. They'll compliment people hammering it, but the negativity is usually what gets attacked. Gets attention. I know I attack it,
Starting point is 02:21:42 but that's because it's easier to spot. But you another nigga that need to put his phone down sometimes. Fuck that. Yeah, put your fucking phone down. You are going crazy over there. And I'll say this in closing, I think that punch speaks from a position of privilege. I think that punch, I think that punch, a few reasons, I'll tell you why. I think punch is fortunate enough, and not just Punch, TDE.
Starting point is 02:22:08 They are fortunate enough and lucky and blessed enough to house two powerhouses that only ascend up. By the time they fall off, music will be in a whole nother place. Kendrick and SZA are going up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up,
Starting point is 02:22:29 up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up everybody else. So punch is able to say J rock. I can't imagine kids about press like that same with absole same with fucking schoolboy that crew was just on some family shit if the press come it come but if it don't this is how we move in them to the side that ain't the case for everybody else. That ain't the
Starting point is 02:22:59 case for everybody else y'all that have the the the the king or queen on the chessboard, if y'all not moving a certain way, media and press take that out on the rest of your acts. And the rest of your acts normally want the press and need the press and can use the press. So there's a dance, there's a waltz that has to happen that TDE is the exception to that rule. So he get to talk like that. The rest of these niggas can't talk to press and about press like that. Carney do it because she don't have no music coming out.
Starting point is 02:23:34 Like the people that do it, I could tell you why they're doing it. But to the people that are actively putting music out and trying to grow their brand in their business, it's not wise to do that. It's not wise to come out and say, yo, all the hip hop media, fuck y'all, suck my dick. That ain't smart. True. The rest of y'all get out there and think that y'all could keep trying this shit that Punch and TDE is doing and see how it works.
Starting point is 02:23:54 But why you not address the hip-hop media as far as being more... Responsible? More responsible and respectful in how they, you know... No, I'm not doing that. I'm I'm hip-hop media. So I lead I am the example that I want to see I'm not responsible for how anybody else move Hip-hop media just like hip-hop. It's so no no notice to there's too many different things Going on I don't have to agree with how every outlet is moving.
Starting point is 02:24:26 But there's enough of them out there to where artists could find one that they rock with and get to it. There's too many different ways. Today, they doing docs about you, so you could go get with, what's the dirt of one of the doc niggas if you're not trying to be seen?
Starting point is 02:24:44 They doing the long walks in the pasture. They like to date the media just even looks different. So you could pick you could pick how you want to come off. If you were street nigga and you ended that, you can go see Gilly and them niggas over there. If you were OG and a vet with some stories, you can go see Norrie over there. If you want some backpacker nerdy shit,
Starting point is 02:25:06 we can see Rob Markman, we can see Sway. There's just too many people. If you Atlanta-based, you could go see my niggas over there. Ray Daniels. Ray Daniels and the other one, the other one, the other one, the big one out there, I don't remember right now. They was on Revolt and now they not. I got a brain freeze.
Starting point is 02:25:21 But it's too many places for me to just hear anybody say, yo, all hip hop media is trash, so this is why we moving like that. Nick, please, knock it off. Knock it off. All hip hop media is not trash. Not at all. Carmela going to sit with fucking Shannon Sharp right now.
Starting point is 02:25:37 Yeah. Just announced. Don't tell me that all hip hop media. Is that hip hop media? Yes, he's hip hop media. He just won the hip hop award at the BET Hip Hop Awards. And even if he's a retired football player, he's interviewed enough rappers to be hip hop media.
Starting point is 02:25:52 Enough entertainers, comedians, actresses, athletes, he is hip hop media. He may not be a hip hop podcaster, but that's my point when it comes to media. There's too many people to sit with, sit with an athlete. Yeah. Word. You can't tell me that the vice president is doing hip hop media and the president, the former president is targeting hip hop media to reach a certain audience, but all
Starting point is 02:26:14 hip hop media is trash and we're not coming to talk to you about music. Oh please, I'm not rolling with that punch. Punch wouldn't say that to me. He's going to say that to y'all. Yeah, I feel like the tweet was just kind of in response to Kendrick's, to the criticism Kendrick's facing by doing Harper's Bazaar. So it was like a really broad stroke. Like you said, there's so many different facets of hip hop media to sit with or speak to that it's just like the blanket.
Starting point is 02:26:36 And I don't believe, I'm sorry, and I don't believe that if Kendrick never does an interview with hip hop media that he'll have less culture in him. I don't wanna confuse that for what I'm saying. Like Kendrick is Kendrick whether he does hip hop media or not. Hip hop media is saying it'd be nice for our greats to not overlook us for all of the white outlets. It's all a big ecosystem.
Starting point is 02:27:05 Everyone feeds each other. Podcasters get shit from journalists to talk about. Podcasters get shit from music people to talk about. Music people use shit set on podcasts to fuel their rhymes. So objectively. It's all a big ecosystem. So if you stop feeding the ecosystem, it's not a great situation.
Starting point is 02:27:22 But objectively, if you're not, Kendrick having the year that he's had, and a lot of that year is predicated on hip-hop media the year he had definitely was helped by hip-hop media just this platform in itself helped the year that he had so now to now if you're saying it's an ecosystem. Yeah but he helped us. No, it was, that's the, that was the part. It was a symbiotic, reciprocal kind of situation. That's my point. No, I was getting there. Y'all let me rock.
Starting point is 02:27:49 It's like, no, I'm playing. But that goes to your point. Yeah. That is, it's a circle, it's a dance. So now you can't say that all hip hop media is kaka. Did he say all hip hop media or he said most? Most. He said most.
Starting point is 02:28:03 He didn't say all. It's different, okay. He said most. He didn't say all. It's different. He said most. Because most is very different than all. But you take two to tango. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I agree with that.
Starting point is 02:28:14 And most of you hip-hop niggas is weird anyway. Artists or people? Yeah. Like I think that's a wild stance for the artist to take when most of the artists are weirdos. See, but again, this is my skewed thinking. You think they think they're weirdos? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Like you're one of the few people that'll be like, yo, I'm weird. I think a good percentage of the artists out there know that they're weird. Especially the great ones. I don't think Kendrick run around thinking he's normal. I think he think he's weird in the head. I think that artists have a tick,
Starting point is 02:28:52 you know about my tick theories. There's the artist tick. Some of them recognize that tick and just know that they think differently than the masses. Also, I'm pretty sure any great artist has been told literally that since they're four years old that they're fucking weird. That they're a genius. You're different.
Starting point is 02:29:11 You're weird. You're different. Gotcha. Speaking as someone who has an artistic bent and has since I was a kid, people thought that was weird. And speaking, just artists, people think are weird. People think that artists are weird. I don't think you're weird, dog.
Starting point is 02:29:21 You're my next. As an artist, you gotta be a little weird. Well that's where the phrase comes from with from genius breeds eccentricity. To be an artist you have to be a little weird any creative. Well and I'll take it a step further to cover you niggas out there we got to be a little weird. That's true too. I think I think that a lot of hip-hop media is weird and artists ain't respecting hip hop media is weird the way that media respects artists weird. Hip hop media is weird.
Starting point is 02:29:50 It's not normal to have to wake up every day and cover y'all. It ain't. Creatively too. Yes. So, Shout The Punch, I'm not gonna call him because he wouldn't answer on a Tuesday anyway, or Friday, whatever today is. Yeah, but that is a crock of shit, but I've had this talk with Punch before, so I'm gonna shut up. And I didn't take it like he was talking to me, I wanna be clear on that.
Starting point is 02:30:16 I didn't think he was talking to me at all. I don't think really what he said was that bad, to be honest. Me neither. His voice is too powerful to only have something to say when hip hop media is bad. His voice is too strong to come out and say, most of y'all are ass. Well, that's true. But follow it up with something good.
Starting point is 02:30:40 I agree with him. Just follow it with who you think. You can't do that. What you think. You can't do that. But see, that was what I literally said. You can't. I know, but you say with who you think. You know what I mean? What you think. You can't do that. But see, that was what I literally said. I know, but you say it like a rat. You don't say it like a nigga.
Starting point is 02:30:49 That's your interpretation of it. You can't do that, because when you name five people, then the other 1,000 people are going to feel like you referring to them. You can't name five people, because even if you make a mistake and leave somebody out, now they're offended. You can't do that. You don't necessarily have to single them out, but you could say some of these people
Starting point is 02:31:07 are great, but some of them, most of them are trash. I want my name to be some of the some. And then if you don't, then you know what I'm saying? Like I just think that him making a blanket statement that most of y'all are trash got his point across. And then when Homeboy replied, I thought that punchers reply was genius. I want to, I hated that reply. I thought it was amazing.
Starting point is 02:31:26 But I'm not mad at anybody that likes it. Taking a tweet to your therapist is kind of like, nigga, grab your dick. Yeah, I disagree with that. I disagree with that. If the tweet resonated enough with you and you felt passionately about the matter enough to tell your therapist and tell your therapist. I'm not familiar with Eric but if he is a journalist too, journalists especially since
Starting point is 02:31:51 the general journalism has taken a fucking hit in the past five, six, eight years I guess it's been now. Yeah. Faith news and then all these outlets closing and firing people and laying people off, everyone's 1099, it's all fucked up. I also feel like you know going to therapy is like the antithesis to the whole grab your dick kind of thing. Because I'm pro therapy and all of that.
Starting point is 02:32:13 I just feel like there's a thin line between when something is you need therapy for something or you're depressed or you just are being a bitch about something. And I felt like in regards to that, not calling him a bitch But that was like some it wasn't that serious that could have been a conversation He could have had with another journalist or a friend to figure out
Starting point is 02:32:32 How that serious if he's a journalist I was gonna say it could be wildly triggering it may not be Specifically punches shit just the entire ecosystem summed up in a punch tweet that made him talk to a therapist about it Do what works when I first read the the tweet I also thought that seems kind of bitchy. Drastic. I wouldn't have tweeted it. Yeah. I would have just told my therapist. Or to therapy. I wouldn't have tweeted that I went to therapy about this. Actually I don't normally tweet about the things I'm in therapy about. Like that's a little... There's something in there.
Starting point is 02:33:08 Something's off with that. Shout to him. And to the journalists. I did want to talk to you all about this case that I found pretty interesting. A mother is suing one of those AI companies, saying that the company was complicit in her son's unaliving of himself. I hate the word unaliving, but self transitioning. Mother says AI chat bot led her son to kill himself.
Starting point is 02:33:41 Character AI, I guess that's the company, faces lawsuit over the 14 the 14 year olds, I mean over the 14 year olds death. Now, they released text messages between the child and the AI. So trigger warning for anybody out there that this is heavy for. In the final weeks, I'm getting this from complex, in the final weeks of his
Starting point is 02:34:06 life, Sewell Setzer III, a 14 year old from Florida, communicated via text with an AI character inspired by Dana-ree and I don't know. Daenerys. Daenerys, I don't know. Daenerys Targaryen. Daenerys Targaryen. Oh, from Game of Thrones. I don't watch Game of Thrones. Okay. See what I'm watching, Game of Thrones. Sewell knew that Danny wasn't a real person. He was reminded by the app
Starting point is 02:34:28 that everything characters say is made up, but he developed an emotional attachment anyway. Earlier this year, his parents arranged for him to see a therapist after he started getting in trouble at school, but he preferred talking about his problems with Danny. And I'll read the text exchange. Uh...
Starting point is 02:34:50 The dude says, I think about killing myself sometimes. AI says, my eyes narrow, my face hardens, my voice is a dangerous whisper. And why the hell would you do something like that? He says so I can be free. AI says free from what? He says from the world, from myself. AI says don't talk like that. I won't let you hurt yourself or leave me. I would die if I lost you. He says I smile. Then maybe we can die together and be free together.
Starting point is 02:35:27 AI says, please come home to me soon, my love. And the last response from the young man was what if I told you I could come home right now? February 28th, Sewell ended his life, 2024, February 28th, 2024, Suell ended his life. Today, Megan Garcia, Suell's mother, filed her lawsuit against Character AI, claiming that Character AI intentionally designed their product to be hypersexualized and knowingly marketed it to minors.
Starting point is 02:36:00 Sheesh. Character AI put out a response that says, we are heartbroken by the tragic loss of one of our users and want to express our deepest condolences to the family. As a company, we take the safety of our users very seriously, and we're continuing to add new safety features that you can read about. Here. I thought this was a very interesting case.
Starting point is 02:36:21 It is. I did. It doesn't sound very convincing. It is. I did. Doesn't sound very convincing. It's a hard one. I'm suing too if that happened to my kid. Are y'all not? I start with that. If that happens to your child, are you taking action against the company?
Starting point is 02:36:38 A thousand percent. Of course you are, right? Yeah. You sound like you're a man. I don't know. I don't do that. I don't know if I do. Because I would be looking internally at the part
Starting point is 02:36:46 that I played in that and looking for my own accountability as opposed to blaming it on the company. Well, let me read something in addition to what he said. His parents tried to help him with therapy sessions just days before his death. His parents took away his phone after he misbehaved at school, which led to Sewell's desperate attempts to reach AI through other devices.
Starting point is 02:37:04 So what do you do as a parent when it seems like your kids have an addiction to, you know, social media, AI, and their electronic devices? Like, you really... I don't know, but it seems like you guys are in a really tough spot. I think the problem is deeper than that. I think if your kid is going to that for consoling, I think the problem is something different.
Starting point is 02:37:27 That's my personal opinion. But the thing is, is that, you know, it says that his parents took him to go to therapy. So listen, we all know about teenage angst. We all know about teenage anxiety and depression. It's probably a lot worse than it was in our day. But it seems like his parents were proactive in trying to figure out a way,
Starting point is 02:37:45 you know, a work around this particular situation by taking him to therapy and removing the devices. But how proactive were they prior to the weeks leading up to this? Because he could have got addicted to that from their lack of not paying him attention, their lack of them influencing him like, you know, maybe you should go outside, go to like, so I don't see how you can, and from Joe reading the text out loud, the bot isn't saying about you should do it.
Starting point is 02:38:14 It doesn't at all sound convincing. It's trying to discourage him more or less. So I feel like it's a hard thing. I'm not a parent, but from all that's placed out right there, I wouldn do that you have to look inward and be like that's what I'm so what did I do as a parent? How did I feel my child? I wouldn't place the blame. It's um, I wouldn't place the blame on our company So I would be literally destroyed right now What I don't know suing means placing the blame. Yeah, we are su showing them you held them in. You're complicit.
Starting point is 02:38:45 You play a part in that don't exonerate them from any blame. I don't I'm assuming that these are parents like normal parents that don't want to see their kid die. Of course. Right. I also believe that if someone wants to self-transition, there's nothing that's anybody else can do to stop that. I'm operating under those two beliefs.
Starting point is 02:39:10 So with that said, I'm assuming that they tried everything from long before, maybe the year before, years before, then you know when your kid is troubled, you're trying some shit. So let's just, because we got to be mad sensitive, so let's just say, go with that line, that my kid has been having some issues and some problems for three or four years. Let's say the boy started talking to, he was 14, so let's say the boy started talking to, what is the name of the company?
Starting point is 02:39:37 The chat bot. The chat bot. At 13, these issues already presented themselves prior to. So if that's the case, then I don't necessarily know how you can hold this particular company complicit for your kid self transitioning. AI is relatively new. And so I think that like what their response was
Starting point is 02:39:58 in response to her lawsuit about safety protocols, et cetera, et cetera, there is a possibility that they were not completely up to a standard of which they might get to now that this has happened. Understand it, because he read all the texts, but then the last one saying, come home to me, was directly related to something that he said
Starting point is 02:40:20 when he's talking about self-transitioning. So it's... like, AI AI is like, is learning you. The precursor is what we put in the front of the pod. Like this pod is for entertainment purposes. And when Joe first started, he said that, that when you log on, it states that boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I don't know. I don't have the exact verbiage that you said. When you first, first started reading,
Starting point is 02:40:42 it said that when you log on, it that yeah you know they put something in yeah the terms protect us from these potential types of situations if you're targeting miners who said they're targeting that she did that's that's what she mom said in the suit that's all I'm going by I don't know what I'm not familiar with the company but if the parent thinks that you're targeting minors, then their brains are not developed to a point where they have a full understanding of even your little obey the law paragraph. Why would she not tell him character.ai?
Starting point is 02:41:20 Why wouldn't she tell him he can't use that? Where does parent accountability come in? It's a sensitive topic, but where does parent accountability come in with that if you think this particular vice is targeting children in a negative way Then it's your job as a parent to potentially shut that down put a block on it Did you keep conflating what I hold up arts? I agree with that. Okay, I agree with that But that's conflating two things I don't think that this lawsuit says that this parent is not going to sleep with guilt every single night.
Starting point is 02:41:49 I don't think because they're suing means that they don't take some responsibility in what's going on. They're not just passing the buck on AI. That could be, the two things could be true. But they also took his phone away, right? A couple days before. Yeah, but he tried his best to reach out to AI through other people, other devices.
Starting point is 02:42:07 So when I hear the story, the AI said, don't do that, correct? So then now if he said, coming home to you, maybe he took him out to the house. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like when you come home from school, whatever the case may be. Yeah, that's how I took it when I heard that. Like, once they took the phone away,
Starting point is 02:42:22 he probably told the AI that I don't have my device. I'm reaching for me and then come home. That's how I took it. You know what I mean? But we have to take it differently when somebody transitions. I got it. Because I said the same thing. I'm like home.
Starting point is 02:42:36 Come home with me. I ain't got to be come home with me. But now look, now you are expecting AI to be developed and mature enough to establish what home means in context. And you're talking about somebody, the human, needing to be mature enough to understand what is going on here, right? I take you back to the vape doc. The whole entire premise of the vape doc was you are specifically targeting this to children and they are getting hurt. The vape shit said all of the dangers that come with it. None of that mattered because y'all are advertising to kids and they are getting killed. So that is the thing.
Starting point is 02:43:18 And secondly, remember that case where Shorty was, she went to court. I think she was found guilty, y'all Google it yourselves, I'm not here to fax, I'm not a journalist. Shorty that told her boyfriend to kill herself, kill herself and he did it. That was a big thing in the true crime world. Yeah. And she went to court and argued, I was never saying do that,
Starting point is 02:43:40 but that changes when you did that, the context of whatever you were saying. Or if you're in an argument with somebody and they be like, yo, go play in traffic, or yo, kill yourself, you loser. And then somebody goes and does it, that might not have been your intent, is what you're saying?
Starting point is 02:43:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying there's been cases where because the act was done, we have to look at the steps prior under a different light, is all I'm saying. But if I'm not mistaken, because I'm not familiar with AI all the way, to look at the steps prior under a different light. But if I'm not mistaken, because I'm not familiar with AI all the way,
Starting point is 02:44:09 isn't the whole process of AI to basically- Get to know you. Get to know you, but enable human behavior, conversation, X, Y, Z. So it can be speaking from the guise of a parent. Like a parent would tell their kid, or a friend, or a sibling, like come home, like I don't think.
Starting point is 02:44:27 See, and that's where I think the parents have a case. Mind you, I dropped out of school and I'm not an expert in any of this. But if it's me, right? And I feel like I've curated a household where my kid either feels comfortable enough to talk to me about some things or he's in close enough proximity for me to see some things and if there's some shit going on that I don't see fit, then I'm taking the phone getting that out of you, right? So in the parent's mind, if the kid don't feel that bond with the AI, then I don't know
Starting point is 02:44:59 what may happen and I don't know how I may handle it. But my kid had a bond with this thing. This thing marketed to my kid, spoke to my kid, and though I went through every step to remove it, yeah, the same way I'm going to bed with this guilt every night, I'm holding your foot to the fire, too. And I'm not saying they'll win, but it's a very, very interesting case, and I think the first of its kind.
Starting point is 02:45:23 I don't think this is the last time we hear about something like that. It's not, but I just think that, we going of its kind, I don't think this is the last time we hear about something like that. But I just think, I think that, we going in circles. I just don't think that you can prove that I marketed to your kid just because it's available. That don't mean I necessarily marketed. Usually when it's facing it over, there's a warning label
Starting point is 02:45:36 and it will explicitly say. We don't know if it's not. You can't prove it if somebody marketed it. I don't know about this, this case has to play out. Like in the vape thing, like when you walk in the store and now they got cherry and grapes and all this bright colors, somebody can say that plays on the senses of a child.
Starting point is 02:45:51 Well, they said that and they won. Most social media and stuff like that, you have to put in like an age. And yes, of course you can lie, but if this thing didn't require any sort of age to sign up, I can see that being problematic. Or it could. Because again, we in the dark with some of the stuff.
Starting point is 02:46:10 Marketing to kids is direct. When you walk in Target and they got the candy down there right at the checkout at two feet high, it's consultants that get paid big bucks to do that shit. They tell you what product placement and all that shit is most effective. When you walk in Target and it's them little $2 toys right there, that's to catch a kid on a walk in. They want to put that shit in the cart and play with them. All of that stuff
Starting point is 02:46:30 is done on purpose. By design. By design. With this particular thing, you have to prove that it's marketed to kids, not just a lady saying it. I'm not saying that it is or it's not, because we don't know what the- How do you feel about it if they are able to prove that? If they are able to- Does it change your stance at all?
Starting point is 02:46:44 It changes my stance, now you plan on a child that may not have the mental capacity to differentiate between the two. All right, so you with me. All right, so you just with me on the thing. I feel like it's 50-50 still. We unpacked it already, I'm not, it's over. No, I wasn't going, I just feel like it's 50-50.
Starting point is 02:46:57 That nigga come right on to end with some shit, it's over, god damn it. I wasn't going. Best in peace to the- Yeah, for sure. 1000% Persons on family. I keep talking about the AI shit, you keep in peace to the... Yeah, for sure. ...1000% personal family. I keep talking about the AI shit. You keep, you on the other side, you gonna join me soon.
Starting point is 02:47:11 Why? I just think it's gonna be more problematic. I think that the conveniences of AI are gonna not justify the potential detriment. Like they, a new hospital in China just opened up. It's an AI hospital. Deadass. And they're having AI perform surgeries and shit on people. I just think that human instinctive shit,
Starting point is 02:47:34 it's something in that. You get what I'm saying? Like, there's just certain shit in that that you can't necessarily get from a robot. Like, empathy, certain shit, like when you're just doing the X's and the O's is cause that you make at the last second based on your gut. Back to your interview gut, man. Based on your gut. It's just certain shit that you do. It ain't always about X's
Starting point is 02:47:58 and O's. It ain't always about logic. And I'm the logic guy. It's not always about that. And I think some of this shit is just going to be programming. Robots would probably make decisions based on ratio and statistical information versus a human being saying, fuck the statistics, I'm still gonna try and like save this person. I'm gonna go save this person, but the probability. You just said that.
Starting point is 02:48:17 Yeah. That's exactly what you just said. I'm just helping. You got it. Okay. Don't be a alley-oop. But yeah, I just think it's gonna just be more problematic It's scary to me
Starting point is 02:48:32 Hey parts to what cuz of that that right there, you know why I Don't have anything that I think is really important. so we really could have dragged it if we want uh Quarter pounders are killing people No, no, no, no literally E. Coli breakouts E. Coli E. Coli break out and in McDonald's and a Lot of people have been injured and there's been one fatal Boards head in two months They put in the listine and all the food.
Starting point is 02:49:06 All that shit. Cola and all the food. The food is killing us. Oh yeah, I'm still ordering fucking Jersey Mike's. For real? I stayed away. He want that lunch meat. I stayed away.
Starting point is 02:49:16 I miss turkey, man. Jersey Mike's is good. We grew up on lunch meat. Yeah. You want us to not eat sandwich meat? I miss turkeys, man. I had to leave that shit alone. I call. What kind of turkey you got? Not boar's meat? I miss turkeys, man. I had to leave that shit alone. I call.
Starting point is 02:49:25 What kind of turkey you got? Not Boar's Head, right? All right, cool. Who would that somebody have to tell me? There's another turkey brand? Yeah, it's mad turkey. No, you know, Boar's Head, nigga. Nobody buy it.
Starting point is 02:49:35 Boar's Head used to be the fly shit. Yeah. So imagine what Boar's Feet is using. Nah, there's no key food turkey brand. Y'all think, but okay. I'ma go with that. Oscar Mayas. All of them.
Starting point is 02:49:47 Oscar Mayas, those in the pack. The little bologna bullshit. They probably make the log. Yeah. It's a dog. No, no, no. Turkey log. Yeah man, keep fucking with it.
Starting point is 02:49:58 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna eat a turkey today. If I get sick, hold me down. I love sandwiches. Sodium is terrible. Yeah, sandwiches are good. A good sandwich? Yo, my people's at Kidney Stones,
Starting point is 02:50:09 and they was like, yo, you eat a hot, they asked him what he ate, niggas eating them fucking turkeys and cheeses damn near every day. They said that shit's so high in sodium, it fucked them up. Cheese, cheese is plural for cheese. Turkey and cheeses, like the sandwiches,
Starting point is 02:50:24 ass your dog? He still eats sandwiches right? Yeah. He try to go out with a bang, leave him alone. He try to. Sandwiches are so good. He can beat E. Coli, he can beat it. He can beat that.
Starting point is 02:50:42 Sandwiches. Oil and vinegar. I almost called my mom the other day and asked her to make me some tuna fish. Tuna fish is the truth. Tuna fish is cool. Tuna fish is cool. But that sandwich needs... What type of store?
Starting point is 02:50:53 Can you stop talking to Corey who's not even on this broadcast live on air in front of millions of people? Can you let him just talk to the acoustics of the room? We can hear him though. Ignore Corey. If Corey were a qualified voice, he would be on the microphone. Don't listen to him.
Starting point is 02:51:13 Did you eat a tuna fish sandwich the other day, yes or no? From Jersey Mike's. All right, nigga, it's dangerous. Stop eating sandwiches. It is for your blood pressure. It ain't tuna. All right, you came here with a fucking,
Starting point is 02:51:23 a wrapped hand, you came here sick. You couldn't even shoot him. Not sick, but you came here, you came here with a fucking wrapped hand. You came here sick. You couldn't even shoot. Not sick, but you came here, you came here to shoot right. Oh man. You're eating shit. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna take my pepsi. Niggas care about you.
Starting point is 02:51:33 Look, look, look. That's cousin Jersey Mike's. Look, look, acid reflux. Yeah, you fucked up in the game. It's so good. Gassy motherfucker. Oh shit, you threw a shot at the apple. He is so gassy.
Starting point is 02:51:41 You be throwing shots on the back of niggas. That's some old lady shit. Calling nigga gassy. That's why I let you sit there with lipstick on your teeth this whole show. Oh shit, you throw a shot at the end. He is so gassy. You be throwing shots on the back of niggas. That's some old lady shit. Calling nigga gassy. That's why I let you sit there with lipstick on your cheek this whole show.
Starting point is 02:51:49 See, that's why I let you sit right there. Oh man. Gassy. I hate you. Is there anything else up there that is super important? No. It ain super important? No. Not necessarily. It ain't, right?
Starting point is 02:52:07 No. I don't believe so. Dirk is gonna consume the entire newsweek, and that's the news month. They now reporting that once he's seen his mans get snatched, that he was trying to take the private jet to Italy. Yeah. He booked a ticket to Switzerland and Dubai, but didn't get on the flights. He moved slow. Yeah. Yeah, I'd have been over there a month ago.
Starting point is 02:52:30 And I went to Italy. Months ago. You gotta pick a non-extradition country. Indonesia. Some shit like that. Tokyo. What you gonna do over there in Indonesia? I'm getting out of Chicago. Where am I going?
Starting point is 02:52:40 Hey, fire up the jet. No, he was in Florida. I'm going to... What? Where you going? Some shit we never heard of. Bali. I see you in some shit we never heard of.
Starting point is 02:52:50 Just to be like, oh, I was the first one there. I was a plus one there. 350 pounds with some blonde dreads. With an accent. You crazy. It's smile on my face. What's going on with the guan, man? You crazy.
Starting point is 02:53:04 Nigga, but you may get away, but once you start doing this stupid, mm, you got it. I'm gonna cut you off. You gotta cut your tongue off, nigga. That ain't me, sir. Yeah, what? Damn. That ain't me, sir. Yeah, that's not me.
Starting point is 02:53:21 That's hilarious. This nigga tried to get on the jet. It's over. I ain't mad at him. Let my attorneys work it out. I'll holla at y'all. Deadass. Now, granted, when mom told me if I put my hand by the stove,
Starting point is 02:53:40 I'll burn myself, yes, that was not enough to keep me from putting my hand by the stove. Now, if mom said, if you touch that stove, it's gonna be either life in jail or the death penalty. I think I'd have stopped. It's not human nature. I think I would have stopped doing that. That's what I think.
Starting point is 02:54:06 Listen, my mama told me, hey, once them boys get a hold of you, there's nothing I could do. They got a hold of you, right? Chow's board. They got a hold of you. Chow's board. That's the only time you ever been locked up? Yes.
Starting point is 02:54:22 Oh. Well, no. Okay. There you go. Yes No, okay Go ninety ninety seven percent of the times. I've been arrested have been Child support related the other three are probably drug related crimes got perks got you They could snatch me with the purse, but it wasn't like a violent It wasn't a violent crime or weapons wasn't the life the life you lived. Any of that stuff, yeah. Human nature says that we could beat the odds. Yo.
Starting point is 02:54:52 Your ego says you could beat the odds. Stop killing people, man. What? How about that? I don't give a fuck what your ego tell you. Stop fucking killing people. How about that? Go to the fucking studio.
Starting point is 02:55:00 Go to the studio. Yo, anything that go bad in a rapid life, all you gotta do is just go to the studio. You don the studio. Yo, anything that go bad in a rapper life, all you gotta do is just go to the studio. You don't have to go and kill. I did not fucking kill. Allegedly. I ain't talking, I'm talking about whoever need to hear it. I'm not just pinning this on them.
Starting point is 02:55:18 Again, Dirk will have his day in court. Puff will have his day in court. I don't think, I don't think Thug has his years in court. So I mean, we'll see how it plays out. This next season of America, that's what I got for you. I've been saying it. This shit like Game of Thrones for real. Next season of America is not about to play.
Starting point is 02:55:39 It's some more unbelievable shit that's coming. Mm-hm, for sure. Actually, we just seen it. You seen Denzel snap on them niggas? Yeah. When you seen Denzel just start snapping on them niggas? Oh, he's not doing it. Pabarazzi.
Starting point is 02:55:48 Pabarazzi? Denzel? He had enough of them. Denzel is usually cooler than a cucumber. He told him, I'll be back outside. No, not that. You know, they were accusing him back in Funny, like, you're not showing no love.
Starting point is 02:55:59 And he, you know, he turned back around and said, yo, look, listen, I'm a man, and I'm speaking to you as a man. And I said, when I come back out, I'll holla at y'all and saying all that stuff is not good, and we could do it this way. Or I won't talk to you when I get out. And then what?
Starting point is 02:56:13 We can handle it that way too. Either way, yeah. And Denzel, nigga. Yeah, he said we can handle it either way. Dirty Mount Vernon, nigga. Yeah, Denzel's one of them. Yeah, yeah, it's true. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:56:23 Shout to Denzel. Shout to Denzel. It's my uncle in my head. Of course. Yeah, it worked. It's my uncle in my head. Some of them. Yeah, yeah, it's true. You mean shout to Denzel shout to Denzel. Of course Yeah, it works my uncle in my head some great advice. Yeah, that's crazy Denzel burnt up on the yeah This will go to Portugal I'm not going nowhere where y'all think I would go I'm gonna go somewhere where the last thing on their mind would be he over there in Iceland. Africa.
Starting point is 02:56:47 Antarctica. You bugger. He'll never be in Africa. Let's check. Let's check over there. I got peoples over there. 2025 I'm going to Africa too. Are you aware?
Starting point is 02:56:59 Sure. What part of Africa? Enough is enough. We're gonna first. Okay. Buy something. Ghana first. Oh, I'm playing on it. Yeah, buy something. I'm definitely copying what're gonna first. Okay. Buy something. Ghana first.
Starting point is 02:57:06 I'm playing on it. Yeah, buy something. I'm definitely copping with it. Seriously. I ain't even joking. No, me too. Yeah. Me too.
Starting point is 02:57:14 My man, yo, maybe 2,000. I'm gonna find the best pussy of it. Ghana. The Ghana escort. You're gonna be losing your mind over there. Soon as I land. Yo, that's your bag. Soon as I land.
Starting point is 02:57:22 That is your bag. I'm joking. I'm misrepresenting myself as a Ghana escort. I'm joking. I as I land. Yo, that's your bag. Soon as I land. That is your bag. I'm joking. I'm misrepresenting myself for content purposes. Wink, wink.
Starting point is 02:57:33 Nah, but buy something. It's natural. My man told me to buy some shit in like, 06. They had lots for 3500 and 06. In the bougie park. Long gone in those days. So definitely pick up something. Oh, you mean like property, you're saying those days. So definitely pick up something. Oh, you mean like property, you're saying?
Starting point is 02:57:47 Yeah, land at the very. I thought you meant. Why you ain't just say property? Yeah, why I ain't just. Buy something. I thought he meant like going on a tour. I thought he meant a key chain. What did you think I was talking about?
Starting point is 02:57:58 Sunglasses. Yeah. I knew what you was talking about, but it's just like, the listeners don't know what you talking about. What you thought I like The listeners don't know what you talking about. I heard You just said boss up my box no, oh, thank you. Yo you are by what though? I hope all the strippers rented out that dr property today purchased all of years ago. Oh, that's that was a story I bought a property
Starting point is 02:58:22 I bought a private EDI. Girl. Give me this pussy a shout out, girl. I ain't do, I ain't do, yo. This nigga's an idiot, yo. Who is watching this episode that I don't know about? What? What are you talking about? Why, Mel sitting up being fruity tooty.
Starting point is 02:58:43 What's up? Nothing, I'm chilling. You ain't get your lean on today. What you doing today? I am chilling, I am chilling. Nobody's watching that I know anything about, I swear. I'm just chilling. You got a date?
Starting point is 02:58:57 I do not have a date tonight. We ain't had a date in a while. When last time you had a date? Since we had some people. No, it's been a while. That's a long ago. Gotcha. We can have.
Starting point is 02:59:10 You look too good to keep striking out out here. I'm not striking out. You are striking out. Don't talk like that. You look good. She's too fired to keep striking out. Hold you down, Mel. You gotta find your match.
Starting point is 02:59:20 Mel, tag me in, man. I'll hold you down right now. All right, cool, listen. Nigga came in, cleaned it up, cleaned her up, and now she got that act right, so she want to be able to not misrepresent herself in front of her shorty. She was dirty before, you saying?
Starting point is 02:59:33 No, but when I mean cleaned her up, it's like, you know, she was like, now a nigga checking her. Like, she checking shit. Watch how she's standing outside. Nigga tell her, yo, I saw that. I saw that pic. She got a nigga that's checking shit. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 02:59:46 Oh my God. Oh my God. I am such a fan of love that that made me feel warm and good inside. That's so great when you're in the beginning stages of things and you have to establish your territorial nature even though you don't have a right to. Hey girl, I'll you put that picture.
Starting point is 03:00:05 You better tell them stop playing with me. But she from the old school. She don't stand here. She ain't by about those rules. Hey, you better stop playing with me like that. I'll fuck them niggas up. So you agree with that? I mean, he's younger.
Starting point is 03:00:17 So I just kind of let him get it off. Everybody's younger. Shut the fuck up. I thought it's like your body, your choice. I mean, it is. So I let him get it off. But you know. He the fuck up. Let's go, man. I thought it was like your body, your choice. I mean, it is. So I let him get it off, but you know. He probably got knowledge. It is.
Starting point is 03:00:29 Your femininity and your integrity and all of those other things that men and their insecurities and their lack of emotional intelligence that would prevail, you just discarded all that. Niggas with big dicks, get it off, nigga. Okay, well no. He's exaggerating.
Starting point is 03:00:44 It was not about. That nigga dick ain't big? No, Okay. Well, he's exaggerating it was not about nigga dick ain't big No, that's not what he's exaggerating about Exaggerating about the fact that it was it was pictures the pictures weren't a problem. Yo, Mel you stood no, man I mean that's how I caught on. Mm-hmm. I thought it was something else But my radar was wrong. If you say I understand you started standing different You don't stand close to niggas you You standing forward nigga like a 3D pic. You standing up like a holographic.
Starting point is 03:01:09 That nigga checked you. I'm giving the picture dimension. Now that nigga checked you, yo baby. Yo listen, I don't wanna see that. And I get it, I'm down with you. I'm down with the cleanup. I'm down with act proper. He has had a lot of questions about narratives.
Starting point is 03:01:22 Yeah, I know nigga. Pause given, don't come up here. Don't come up here, pause know, nigga. Pause giving, don't come up here. Don't come up here and pause giving. I'm still debating. Don't come up here, all that shit. I'm on his ass. I'm on that nigga in pause giving. He think that it's just an act to bother male fuck.
Starting point is 03:01:37 I'm on his ass. I'm on his ass. Queens flip. I saw you, I know you are. I'm on your fucking melon top. And this is why I'm debating. I have to. I don't want niggas think I'm just picking off bad ass
Starting point is 03:01:48 because I'm, everybody getting it. Beginner stage is something. All right, you better let them bitches, you better let them bitches know that it's my time now. Don't be glad, that's all we care about. You better let them know that it's my time now. Tell all them bitches you was entertaining before. Tell them now, it's not even the time for that.
Starting point is 03:02:07 The beginning stage is great. That is the beginning stage of toxicity too. Oh shit. Why is that your way? Why is that your early too? That is true. Don't do that joke. That is true. You don't be able to go home and think about some shit.
Starting point is 03:02:18 By the way. Yo, that jealousy and insecurity show his face early. Ooh. I'm gone. Insidious. Because all it does is grow. The longer y'all together, the more entitled you will get. Nigga, I'm jealous and insecure, fuck it nigga.
Starting point is 03:02:30 I'm not gonna lie to you, I told my own. I mean, I told family that shit nigga. I'm jealous and insecure nigga. Oh fuck yeah, I fixed that. Yo, you told all the family? I told all my family members that shit, nigga. I don't know what the fuck. But I say all of them, my family members.
Starting point is 03:02:49 I'm with you, my nigga, you're hot. No, I'm just saying, I told them, when they see me around my family and I'm acting a certain way, I'm jealous and insecure. No doubt, no doubt. Acting what? I'm with you, killer. I think it's funny.
Starting point is 03:03:03 All right, if we don't have anything else, which I don't think we do, but I'm just going to check anyway. Part of the show? All right, we have a part of the show from Malachi 6 Music. And boy, is he cursing me out. Damn, Joe, shaking my head, LOL. I can't believe you blocked me. I am the guy that has been tagging you in those remixes
Starting point is 03:03:32 all the way from Decatur, Georgia, Zone 6, future went to my high school, Columbia. For someone like you who claims to love music and is for the culture and for your fans who happen to be talented and also supports you and your membership fees to even get this response to you all the way from Decatur, Georgia, East Atlanta, Zone 6,
Starting point is 03:03:55 would at least appreciate the work of musical art from your fans on social media who tag you and supports everything else that you do, even mentioning that I could see you in standup comedy. I remember you said that. No, you don't owe me anything and you can block whomever you want. However, I expected your frequency
Starting point is 03:04:14 and your energy to your fans who try and get your attention would be a little more graceful and grateful. God's frequency and appreciation and gratitude for your fans even watching your podcast and For even wanting to write to you because honestly Joe I don't do shit like this writing letters or submitting questions to celebrities and this will probably be my last It's all love though. I'm not mad and I'm still a fan
Starting point is 03:04:41 Just disappointed and I'm still a fan, just disappointed. That was to you. Malachi and anyone else that needs to hear this, I love and respect and appreciate your fanfare. That does not mean that you can spam my account 90 times on Instagram with whatever slap you just made. If you do that I'm blocking you so I never have to see it again. I'm looking at it. Yeah, sorry. That don't mean I don't want you to win out there, but sending me 90 clips of your song
Starting point is 03:05:41 when I think the baddie that I just followed might be hitting me and it's you. I just sent something to something nice. I get 90 replied real quick. And it's you with a song blocking you. You're blocked, buddy. Good luck with everything. Good luck. Sleepers, sleepers, sleepers. I'm going with. I am going with this joint off that Babyface project that he put out.
Starting point is 03:06:09 This is Babyface and Money Long. And this record is called The Recipe. You know Lil' Chu made it Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Walkin' back, so Louis on the floor Soon as I get home
Starting point is 03:06:38 First thing you ask me, why you been going through my phone? I was like what? You was like what? I was like boy I ain't got time Have you lost your mind? Are you trying to make me lose mine? Focused on my paper every day All you do is argue and complain When you gon' quit playing in my face Just leave me alone I need some space Soon as I get home Light me some candles, turn the lights down low Soon as I get home Just take a sip and take it nice and slow
Starting point is 03:07:13 Soon as I get home You can't keep resting me and think you give the best of me Soon as I get home Baby, quit stressing me I'm giving you the recipe Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Soon as I get home, soon as I get home The recipe, yeah Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Need you to love me, trust me Think it's so important that we communicate
Starting point is 03:07:43 Cause end of the day, I need you supportive Can you respect me? Will you protect me? It's only gonna happen if you let me So let me just tell you what's been in my head So many things I should've but I never said You got me crying in this empty bed I really wish that we were making love So that I get high
Starting point is 03:08:09 I'll make you candles turn the lights down low So that I get home Just take a sip, take it nice and slow So that I get home You can keep pressing me and think you'll get the best of me Soon as I get home Baby, quit stressing me I ain't giving you the recipe, yeah
Starting point is 03:08:35 I said I'm giving you the recipe Soon as I get home Light me some candles, turn the lights down low So, as soon as I get home Just take a sip and take it nice and slow So, as soon as I get home You can keep resting me and think you'll get some rest in me So, as soon ain't get home Baby, quit stressing me
Starting point is 03:09:09 I'm giving you the recipe So nice, I ain't get home Brand new old music or kinda old That was Babyface featuring Money Long That record is called The Recipe Available on your phone and on DSPs right now That's that Babyface project where you worked with all of the girls.
Starting point is 03:09:26 Absolutely smoked that. Bold to do the soon as I get home flip, but Money Long is Money Long. Sounds good. Love it. Shout out to both of you. Sounded great. I'm going to a friend's show.
Starting point is 03:09:36 This is Reason, Whatever. This is his first song out as a indie, and I fuck with it. ["Reason, Whatever"] Indie and I fuck with it. Young enough to keep doin' all of this stupid shit, boy Ayy, yeah It's like nigga, I write to be killed Nigga want ice, it's grilled Nigga want life with meals
Starting point is 03:10:18 Nigga want life so ill, god damn Niggas only try and get paid Niggas only try and get paid Hope he hit his dreams one day, lil nigga whole life change Look a nigga wanna speak to masses, hope to hear a chance while we reach for glasses Swear I had enough but I keep surpassing, goals that I set cause I speak with passion Niggas burn bridges everyday, hit my line and they wanna explain I don't speak semantics, swear this shit what I least imagined
Starting point is 03:10:41 Had hoop drains and the dreams was canceled, fucking move on like U-Haas, nigga too strong Nigga went from coupons, putin Jews on, on the green like croutons Do some niggas in the field like Foosball It was twisted with sticks, tried to stay out the way but my niggas was lit Swear as a kid only images live was a hoop nigga, rap nigga, trap nigga shit Ain't much change, did a march to the same lil nigga Swear for your pain lil nigga, so we got the same name lil' nigga, I trayvon a briana, I lay down that night in deep sweats as I ponder, praying that's never my son or my daughter,
Starting point is 03:11:10 know I was grown from the dirt of my fathers, know we ain't perfect, we striving regardless, know we ain't perfect, we striving regardless, yeah, nigga old enough to know better, but young enough to keep doing all of this stupid shit or whatever, man, nigga old enough to keep doing all of this stupid shit But whatever, man Nigga old enough to know better But young enough to keep believing all of this stupid shit
Starting point is 03:11:31 They tell us, yeah No matter how rugged the road is Tread through the deepest of waters, I'm Moses The picture ain't perfect but chosen God knew he painted the toughest of soldiers The blood on the bristles I'm using I got it from victims of shooters Had a crib to go to but they ruthless Bullets travel through air like acoustics
Starting point is 03:11:47 Was a badass lil' nigga but grew to be rich, feel like Boosted Took some hallessas but used them I learned to get through your problems It's like cleaning blood, just find your solutions All of this talk about ditty, ironic, I also put faith in the music We look up and get by those powered and quickly surprised when they turn into music Shit, young niggas, old enough shit I guess that we not how you tell me that we ain't got steak in the hood When I watch my whole family pay bills on them blocks Look, I watch some of my loved ones get killed on them blocks See mothers and fathers lose kids on them blocks
Starting point is 03:12:15 Love streaming for nights and feel cost tonight Like looking for parking, we been through a lot Shit, all of these bodies has fallen and niggas won't rap about drops Just met with a relative killing it we sat and rapped about plots Do your whole rollout in hoods to head to the hills and the safest of homes I see the path that you walking just praying one day that y'all take better roads My patience is gold my future ain't stopping I shake till it goes now one fable told no hammers or tools I made it from lows
Starting point is 03:12:43 Look, I'm still young and stupid, but older and wiser I'm plottin' and dreamin', I fought that depression I'm boxin' and bleedin', got rid of them ghosts Feel like Tommy Egan is sold I can't quit, it's too much hope, boy Rest in peace, Donutia Family hurtin' I'll just soar with all this rope on my back That is whatever, by reason, in front of the show
Starting point is 03:13:04 That's all Congrats, Reason, front of the show. That's all. Congrats Reason on your new joints. I'm going to, gentleman's name is Tails and the song is Free Time. Tell me what to do, tell me what you like I can do it right if you wanna do I'm changing my flight, I won't leave tonight I'll come to your crib, just let me in your room If ten minutes in the pain is all it takes Just to make it up to you then girl I'm on it Said I've been so away, you've been stressed for days Baby I get it not going like I feel away
Starting point is 03:13:57 You've been up to something, falling Nowhere else I'd rather be, yeah I wanna take my free time Spend it with you I just wanna spend some time with you I gotta make time For just me and you Me and you
Starting point is 03:14:18 Girl don't take it personal You should know I don't want nobody else Girl don't take it personal You should know, I don't want nobody else Girl, don't take it personal, you should know All you talk so hard, yeah What do you want, my baby? You roll my blood, pour us a cup and we get nice and wavy You wanna fuck, I give you love, that's every night and daily You tryna write a story while I'm just returning pages slowly
Starting point is 03:14:45 You've been up to something, falling Nowhere else I'd rather be I wanna take my free time, spend it with you I just wanna spend some time with you I got a main time for just me and you, me and you I wanna take my time, spend it with you Forgotten me time, for just me and you, me and you Girl don't take it personal, you should know I don't want nobody else
Starting point is 03:15:27 Girl, don't take it personal, you should know No, you're talking about my life That is Tails' free time. Fuck with it. Big Mel, what you got? Mine is called Marking My Time by, help me with this, Elmian-y? We figured this out once but I've forgotten.
Starting point is 03:15:57 Elmian, Elmian? Imani. It's not, okay. And Bad Bad Not Good. Yes. Uh-huh. Send me the prayer I'm missing. Because I need the sight
Starting point is 03:16:28 And even though I'm listening It's gonna take a while Water set my soul on fire Get me out this hole, I'm tired Won't accept my soul on fire Get me out this hole, I'm tired Won't accept my soul on fire Free me from this world I've found so frail
Starting point is 03:17:00 Won't accept my soul on fire Free me from this world I've found so frail Won't accept my soul on fire Free me from this world of clouds of fire I wanna set my soul on fire Get me out this hole, I'm tired to stay I wanna set my, wanna set my, wanna set my Oh, I, oh I've been out of thrive Blood knives on my sky That is our reality
Starting point is 03:17:29 Holding my breath I've been dying Oh, babe, oh, my life That is our reality And deep Now every line I question Am I afraid to be Someone who learned the lesson So what are they saying? Amongst the evergreen Won't accept my soul on fire Living from this world I've found so frail
Starting point is 03:18:22 Won't accept my soul on fire Free me from this world, I fell so free I wanna set my soul on fire Get me out these walls, I'm trying to stay I wanna set my, wanna set my, wanna set my Oh, I, oh I've been out of thrive Blood knives on my sides That is our reality Hold my breath up and I Obeying all my lies That is our reality
Starting point is 03:19:04 Cause I, I've blind, I've tried I've loved, I've lived, I've died I will survive I, I'm blind, I've tried I've loved, I've lived, I've died I will survive I've loved, I've lived, I've died, I owe you Survival baby Marking my time on walls
Starting point is 03:19:37 Feeling my own skin crawl Marking my time on walls My old advice is killing me My old advice is eating me Yeah, something that we're all missing I'm missing That is El-mean, is how we pronounce it. And Bad Bad Not Good, marking my time. Alright, I see the male-ish battle continues. The war wages on. Ish, that was a fire sleeper again.
Starting point is 03:20:21 Your streak of fire sleepers this year, you're on a remarkable run, man. You have come a long way since you first started this job and your understanding of what a sleeper was back then. And Mel just won't let you breathe, man. You shooting 100% from the field, Mel, of listening to a sleeper right before the sleeper segment and it being fire. That's like that being the first time
Starting point is 03:20:43 that you've heard a song. That is so not what I'm doing. I had that selected. It's been two years. I already had that selected. I have a whole sleeper section. I know. Shut up. I know you do. I got some theories about it. other stuff? Um, I'm done. I don't have nothing to say. Yo, Lord Biden citizens out there, man. It's your time to shine. I ain't gonna let the kids keep disinfo- Know what fun in my 40s look like? I'm glued to the niggas cleaning the carpet on Instagram.
Starting point is 03:21:26 When they pull the rug out and it's just all black and dirty and nasty, I'm like, ooh, he'll never get this one. The niggas put their little phone on there. So a power wash niggas. No, no. They get to rust off the old shit? No, the power wash niggas that be doing the concrete. Oh, no, the concrete beam-up. When the yard be fucked up? When they doing the concrete. Oh no, the concrete be my nigger.
Starting point is 03:21:45 When they do the yarn, the yarn be fucked up. When they do the yarn. Oh son. They do the edges all nice and shit. It's like woo. We bum. Ain't it fun though? Yeah we bum.
Starting point is 03:21:55 But ain't it fun to be that bummy? The power wash. I tried the power wash two times and shot the shit out of myself with that. Hey, they didn't lie about the power part in Power Watch. That guy's an idiot, yo. Yeah, that's fun. Carpet dude the other day, the Halloween edition, pulled out a pumpkin carpet, but boy, it was filthy.
Starting point is 03:22:16 I was like, you'll never be able to restore this. And little did you know. Oh, he got that shit. Why would he take the whole car apart? That's ill too. He got that shit to bright orange, boy. They take the whole inside of the car apart and deep clean that shit. Or when they take the whole car apart, that's ill too. He got that shit to bright orange, boy. When they take the whole inside of the car apart and deep clean that shit.
Starting point is 03:22:29 Well, I haven't seen that. Woo. I haven't seen that one. Nigga, take the seats out. Yeah. The seats are fine. I've seen a guy. An old ass car, though, like a 99 Camry.
Starting point is 03:22:37 Yeah. I've seen a guy that just is destroying cars to show how destroyable cars are. That one, I don't really understand all the way yet. That's a little uncomfortable. Destroying cars to show how destroyable cars are that one. I don't really understand all the way uncomfortable and while I'm on the Halloween edition of things because I went and got my manicure and Allison them be having the Food Network showing every time for 20 years now So I'm forced to watch them white people that's on the Food Network
Starting point is 03:23:04 Take a glizzy and make it into a fingernail that's bleeding and put it in the hot dog bun. I don't want that. Ew. I don't want it. That's right up your alley or no? No.
Starting point is 03:23:18 Oh, I was about to say. I think that these people are morons and fools. I like the baking shows when I'm getting my nails done. That's very cat lady a show. But usually the baking shows, they have to like, you know, create some kind of like, I don't know, some shit that don't look like a fucking cake or anything like that.
Starting point is 03:23:36 That is true. Yeah, it'll be like a race car. Pocket book or some wild shit. Yeah. Well, that was the little Halloween episode on the Food Network, spooky ideas, right? Oh, yeah. So they pulled some shit out the fridge of a dead face
Starting point is 03:23:49 in like a pickle jar. It was like, ooh. And it jumped. Then it was a hand coming from the baker's cake. It was like, yo, dog, what are y'all doing? And the one black girl they got on there with them white people, I'm looking in her eyes with my black people intuition.
Starting point is 03:24:06 And I know what you thinking, but she can't say it. She can't say it. She's just got to do her job and watch the white people just do whatever they want. Like Flip, look at Flip out there on the phone. I wish I could have heard him on the phone too, what he was doing out there. I can't say what he was doing. I hope he caught Flip awkwardly look back and scramble.
Starting point is 03:24:28 Fat niggas don't have the cool lean back on the phone. Like fat niggas just got to be funny at all times. You stupid ass nigga. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about niggas that's fat. Why you doing that? Why you telling me to come outside with me? Why didn't I?
Starting point is 03:24:42 Come on, what's up? Why you telling your man? You see? To work? You was just with me. We was just together. I came back once my sleeper break was done. Got it.
Starting point is 03:24:57 You stayed for the extra. I'm used to employers like you from Sears. My Sears days. Milk in the break? You supposed to get a 45-minute break? Y'all want to go to the food court in Newport and sit there? Extra hour and change?
Starting point is 03:25:11 You got so much shit going on, you gonna dish your man a ton. And I heard what you were saying out there. That's the troubling part about it. What about it? Nothing. It'll stay between us. I'ma hold it down.
Starting point is 03:25:23 Nah, you can't use that shit. I got you too. I heard you out there. Baby. Never, never, never. You better chill. Niggas can read through all that bullshit. Stop. Yeah. I'm a far boy fighting with my girl.
Starting point is 03:25:32 What you gonna say? I'm not fighting with mine. Still? Yeah, because if I didn't feel like I won off the last one, then it's coming back. We ain't done. What you gonna say? I'm not, I'm not. I'm fighting with Ryan. Still? Yeah, because if I didn't feel like I won off the last one, then it's coming back. We ain't done. We shouldn't have failed one. We ain't finished yet.
Starting point is 03:25:52 I'm doing some ill-reversed psychology shit. I just feel like you don't even like me. And the timing could not be better. You love me, but you don't like me. That's the best thing. Yeah, I'm getting deep with the mind games. You ain't him out, though. You gotta beat these people that's in your phone 24-7. I took a shot. What'd she say? I didn't hear what she said.
Starting point is 03:26:13 She take a lot of shots that you don't be able to. No, I don't. The timing couldn't be better. I didn't get that. I'm trying to be cheap. The birthday. She went with that car, too. We're in Scorpio season. The Berth season. She still want the range? I wouldn't know.
Starting point is 03:26:27 How would I know if she still want a range? I'm telling you, did the car change? I don't know. If you ask again, then you want the hook. I don't ask. Once I heard her say I want a range load, shit. All right. Ain't nice, right?
Starting point is 03:26:44 It is nice. It's nice. Yeah nice little vehicle No, I'm a fucker ahead of him buy some stock and a company what's the range before she to grow up? Yo, what's the by any some stock and you just put two ages rip it up Doing this for us. How was it with my grandma, dog? Rest in peace to my grandma. Rest in peace. I didn't understand that Campbell stock that she gave me.
Starting point is 03:27:10 I had $5,000. I went straight to the stock office. Hey, what's this worth? Hey, what's this? Sam Hunter, let me get it. All right. You take this. You take this Campbell shit.
Starting point is 03:27:20 Hey, give me that hard cash. Su? Thanks, granny. Yeah. That was Apple. That was Apple. Hey, give me that hard cash. Soup? Thanks, granny. Yeah. That was Apple. That was Apple. Campbell Soup.
Starting point is 03:27:30 I know what I understand what you're saying. Campbell Soup for our grandparents. I know. God, it was Apple. I got it. Now for me, don't die and leave it to me. They still had, they still got this shit over there me, don't die and leave it to me. They still got this shit over there, not Cherry Hill, but what's the shit in Jersey?
Starting point is 03:27:50 I went to whatever little wealth management building that was on 48th Street over there by all that overpass shit. I didn't know where I was going. What floor can I trade this? Wait, yo. Hey, what floor? I want to give y'all these papers. What floor is these papers?
Starting point is 03:28:05 They said, sit right here Mr. Bud, we'll be right at hell with your cash. What? If you would've kept it, what would happen? Who knows? I don't know. People still eating Campbell's? Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:28:21 Well, they might own some other shit. Word. I was not. Word. I know, the last thing on your mind was other shit. Word. I was not. Word. I know. The last thing on your mind was some soup. 29. Some soup. Damn.
Starting point is 03:28:29 See that thing my grandma died in 2011. Yeah, I'm 29 or something. Fuck that soup. But rest in peace. Rest in peace. I'm looking it up. He was up too. You had your fair share.
Starting point is 03:28:40 This nigga traded in a Campbell soup stock. He was a cold. That grandma left you a cold. Yeah, you may get that rage. Salute. I got your back. You do it. I guess I need a radio. Well, I did. You have five thousand. I don't know when I'm going to be.
Starting point is 03:28:59 I don't know how the fuck would I know when I'm going to be. I hate Scorpio. Honestly, Scorpio's need to. How the fuck would I know when her birthday is? I hate Scorpios. Honestly. You know what I mean? Scorpios need to, oh my God. They could just go to like, they could be the first ones to Mars. The Scorpios should take,
Starting point is 03:29:16 what they call that shit, the submerser? What's that shit? Oh, Joe, that's enough, enough. Enough, nigga, enough. You hate it, hate it. Submersing people. I do, I'm just watching him because he's been with- Unnecessary hate. Yes, exactly. I don't fuck with Scorpios. We might be his favorite people. Sadly in love. You hate him. I do. I'm just watching him. Unnecessary hate.
Starting point is 03:29:25 Yes, exactly. I don't fuck with Scorpio. We might be his favorite people. Sadly in love with a Scorpio. We might be his favorite people. We are. Pause for including yourself in my Scorpio talk. I ain't talking to no dude, Scorpio.
Starting point is 03:29:37 Oh, you hate Scorpio women? I ain't talking to dudes. I'm talking to no dudes. How I even know that you was a Scorpio? Nigga, you a dude. I'm talking about division This one and the rest of them were amazing I hate y'all what you're supposed to say. Yes the guys y'all just have Mesmerizing sex that's sex. That's it.
Starting point is 03:30:07 That's what they're known for. Tyrese Conhocapen. I'm at a Scorpio. Yeah, and he had to take a pause. He didn't do that with any other time. What was he saying? I don't know what her birthday is. I don't know when my girl birthday is. You know when her birthday is.
Starting point is 03:30:27 And I'm trying to book a little work trip during that shit. I'm trying to be out of town. The tour, right? Yeah, something important. The tour. I got three weeks, two weeks for something big to pop up. And let me tell you, she keep on her story posting all the girls that get like a whole bunch of gifts with that little baby girl that got all the bags the other day, we had
Starting point is 03:30:51 her name in the lights and Turks. Every girl that got 900 gifts, she keep posting it in the story. I muted that shit. I muted shit out that story. You setting yourself up for a massive failure. You about to be so, girl, you about to be so embarrassed on your birthday. Joe, that's not the truth. Don't stop.
Starting point is 03:31:13 No, I'm gonna do something because I am a great gift giver. I don't know what it is though. It ain't gonna be arranged, I'll tell you that much. It's gonna be a range of things. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 03:31:22 That's it. That just rove her around your heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, nah, for sure. Oh shit, I love you, baby. Hopefully you've enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Till the next time, I bid you a due farewell.
Starting point is 03:31:52 Adios, to Reva Durche, ayes to LaVista, arre voie. So long, goodbye, or a simple head not a suffice. Ego. Ego. When the rain stopped, I'ma lay down. Always like a turn like the hands of time. I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go. I
Starting point is 03:32:15 Might have to go out tonight. What y'all doing this week? What y'all doing this weekend? What's up? What y'all on this weekend man? What's up? What's up? Don't smile at me nigga. What's going on? I? Want to go to Zion them game Where are you? Why you ain't tell us that in an hour and one? You're an idiot, sir. You can't go to two games. Oh, shit! That's the fight I'm having in my house because of your stupid ass. Me? Yes.
Starting point is 03:32:55 What I got to do with you? I'm dying because we came in here and talked about being in a relationship and going out three nights in a row. Oh, shit. And what that means. And you came in here and lied, and my girl believed it. I don't think any nights in a row and what that means. And you came in here and lied and my girl believed it. I don't think any man in the relationship should be outside.
Starting point is 03:33:10 And when you start lying, I start lying too. I was like, yeah, man, that is bad. I think any man in a relationship knows he shouldn't be out three nights in a row. Why did I say that to the relationship police? Well, I have an entire record here of when you went out. 24th, 29th, and 26th back in 2020. I said, ah-bap-bap, that can't be true, your honor, I mean, girlfriend.
Starting point is 03:33:34 Your honor, girlfriend. Your honor, girl, because I don't go out Sundays, I don't go out Mondays, and I don't go out Thursdays, and it's eight, but seven days in a week. So how could that be your honor girlfriend? And she said, she tried to move to GoPos. Well, what do you think about if you go out Tuesday and Wednesday and then skip Thursday and then it's Friday and Saturday?
Starting point is 03:33:58 I said, ah! It's not 319. Ah! Not 319, no wrong. Ah, back that fuck outta here. Skip, you said skip. Fuck outta here with that, yeah, buddy. Yo, you said skip. Fuck out of here with that. Yeah, buddy. Yo, you went to a game, you used your game pass already.
Starting point is 03:34:09 He did. And was on TV showing your teeth looking good, trying to bag Philly bitches. Your girl was like, your girl was like, enough, come on. Come back home. Come on. They're going from Philly to Houston? Sheesh.
Starting point is 03:34:26 They had them. There was some things in there. The Zaire from Philly to Houston? Sheesh. They had them. There was some things in there. The Zaire game is here, right? Mm-mm. Where? Houston. Oh yeah, oh yeah, cause I went to the one right.
Starting point is 03:34:34 You talking crazy today, nigga. What? You thought you would fly to Houston and go to a Zaire game after you was in Philly with Mark Lamont Hill courtside on television showing teeth? You thought you could, honestly, I'm dead ass. I ain't trying to get you in trouble. You thought you, I ain't trying to get you in trouble.
Starting point is 03:34:49 Did you think that you could do two games in one week? I contemplated it, yeah. How did she set you straight? Just got something to do over the weekend. Just gotta tell you what they don't do. They just tell you, yo, we doing such and such. We're on at 1130 on, you be like, oh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 03:35:07 You lost. Damn. So you're not going to the game? Nah. And I don't like the rest of they schedule. Are you? Nah, you're looking for shit. I'm serious.
Starting point is 03:35:16 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 03:35:24 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, All the only game that I really want to go to is this one Houston game Yeah, the rest of their games is whack like I think I am them fuck around finish 12 and 4 Optimistic I mean 13 and 4 I don't see it for but The rest of the games is definitely that tick is already nah Why you just tell it not this weekend whatever you got planned planned, we'll do next weekend. Nah, you can. Good luck with that. You got that? All right, let me try to think of something else
Starting point is 03:35:49 you could have told her. Good luck with that. Why don't you tell her that this was a real important game to be at? The tickets are open the gate. Why don't you tell her come with you? Yeah, there you go, that's what I'm saying. Why don't you tell her come with you?
Starting point is 03:35:57 You could have got your ass kicked. Yeah, but then we gotta make baby accommodations. And then you gotta be with your girl. When the bitches is around. Now my girl likes football. I don't know why I wanna be with a girl when the bitches is around. Houston. Houston.
Starting point is 03:36:10 Houston girls. No, she the nanny. You bring your girl to Houston. You go to the game. You stay right here. And she stay right there with the kid, the baby. Oh man, that's crazy. Nah, I'm listening to you, Katnabby.
Starting point is 03:36:26 You gotta book two days. Yo, the Colts still gotta play the Vikings, the Bills, the Lions. Who the fuck wanna go to- I don't see it for the Colts. Who wanna go there? Not that, anyway. That's good games.
Starting point is 03:36:37 Nah, that Indianapolis and Texas game, that's where the bitches are gonna be at. Your girl did the right thing. Your girl did the right thing. He used the wrong pass. He tried to get the shit off, too, didn't he? You mentioned the football game early in the... And y'all plan on going to this one, then you said, but Lamar shit was the last minute shit,
Starting point is 03:36:55 you know what I'm saying? We wasn't doing nothing. I already had this planned. Nah, it didn't work. These girlfriends and wives are insidious. I tried to get that shit on for the football game. No, nigga. Nah, it didn't work. These girlfriends and wives are insidious. I try to get that shit on for the football game? No, nigga. I went to Girls Love Karaoke, this nigga popped up the next morning, first flight.
Starting point is 03:37:17 You lie. No, I'm not lying. You won't be humming no tunes around here, nigga. And I'm just making it look a certain way. We planned for it to be here, but I mean, coincident. So she's around. Yeah, I think she's here for the next one, too. But it's fine. Look at that.
Starting point is 03:37:34 Look at God. Yeah, you know. Blessings. God loves karaoke. Yo. Ignorance. God loves karaoke. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 03:37:48 Oh, my girl's in that store. Wait, wait, what? My nigga, don't be no idea. Let me get up there. Yeah, son. I ain't gonna say nothing. See, look, if it was me, you would be going. I'm partying right now.
Starting point is 03:38:06 I'm only partying. I'm partying. And for the next one, yes, you'll be here for her birthday. You got no choice. Oh shit, I'll be around you. They cut the music back on. You my man, son. I'm trying to get out of so much shit.
Starting point is 03:38:14 Angie talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here. I'm trying to get out of so much shit. Angie talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here. I'm trying to get out of so much shit. Angie talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here. I'm trying to get out of so much shit. Angie talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here. I'm trying to get out of so much shit.
Starting point is 03:38:22 Angie talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here. I'm trying to get out of so much shit. Angie talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here. I'm trying to get out of so much shit and you talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here to see me. Alright, stupid question. You got a paper it? Yes, you. Yes, you is the answer.
Starting point is 03:38:41 That's exactly what my brain was. Is that true? The answer is yes. No you don't. Do the question Outfit though Why you put that in the air? Oh, they have to be. She's gonna gotta buy the birthday outfit, though. But she's gonna say, hey, we're going to Mark's steak house at 7 PM to give you a little hint. Keep going. He has to buy that.
Starting point is 03:39:10 Keep going. The cake. Keep going. The dinner. Oh, keep going. The flight. No flight. They home.
Starting point is 03:39:17 Go ahead. Oh, shit. You gotta feed all 14 of them. Nah, they gotta pay for themselves. No. 91, 14, buddy. Oh, wow. They got a what? You want to?
Starting point is 03:39:26 You want to? Yeah, breathe hard, nigga. You making all this money off niggas' backs, nigga. Breathe hard, nigga. You laughed at me at the door. T-shirt, yeah. Good, nigga. Shout out to big ass, nigga.
Starting point is 03:39:34 Yeah, she gonna find that new friend. One fat one. I love this nigga so much. Oh, man. Because his mom be going everywhere, so he be like, yo, wait, what? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
Starting point is 03:39:42 I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm Yeah, she gonna find man new friends. One fat one. I love this niggas though. Cuz his mom be going everywhere. So he'd be like, and if he let it slide, he'd be like, wait, what? He's like, he called back like that. Wait, what you got to get?
Starting point is 03:39:58 The niggas don't have no rights. They don't nothing. And birthday dinner. What does that look like? What's the restaurant? Do you you choose the restaurant fire? No, if you pay for you can't mail He got no, there's no authoritative right We financial abusers and manipulators not me financial abusers and manipulators, not me. You can give a budget. You can give a budget.
Starting point is 03:40:25 Who could give a budget? He can. He can't give a budget. I'm only giving y'all niggas $1,500. What's the budget look like? $1,500. Nothing. You ain't gonna sell it.
Starting point is 03:40:36 Yo, look, I know you're still thirsty, but you can't get no more wine. Or you could call ahead to the restaurant to create like a preface kind of situation where it's like all, everything's just included. So what you do when they start ordering shit that's not on the pizza?
Starting point is 03:40:49 Nigga, they gotta pay me on the hook. And you let them know, don't order anything you ordered that's off the menu. I look like a pre-fixed menu guy. They gonna say, damn this nigga. No, not a pre-fixed, but you can create a menu. You had a menu, it was extensive. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:41:03 It was extensive. They tried that pre-fixed menu shit shit with me I scoffed at them I turned my nose at them. No my friends should be able to choose between the brand Zeno And it's take the birthday Hey, you can stick and appetizer and some soup and some crackers if you go home. I Hate a bad prefix menu. Add some shit that you know niggas wanna eat that they took off the good menu.
Starting point is 03:41:30 Come on, don't do that. Yours was fantastic. You gotta wish. That's why he asked you about your shit. He gone through it. Look at our son, look. He going to come. Nah, I ain't going to, I'm chillin'.
Starting point is 03:41:43 Buy that shit nigga, pay for the dinner. Then after her birthday, I gotta have the co-parent birthday Lex party. Oh yes. To spite. Lex. And then her twins birthday is in December. And then Christmas.
Starting point is 03:41:57 Ooh. And then New Year's Eve. And then New Year's. And then Valentine's Day. Wait. And then Valentine's Day. People get gifts for New Year's? No. No. Oh, you gotta do something. No, but plans.
Starting point is 03:42:06 That's what you do. Y'all can't wait till you really get some good money? Not to say that you don't have it now. No, look. I want to hear all this macho shit come out. Bro, what do you gotta do for New Year's? Plan something. Dinner, drinks, trip, party, trip, something.
Starting point is 03:42:24 If this is what marriage sounds like that shit sucks this is what loving your girl sounds like it sounds like being extorted loving your girl well it is being extorted not worth it because you're paying whatever you paying your girl or the dinner or whatever plus 50% cure brown things we do for what you make just because of your tax situation but you don't want to be that guy to explain to your girl what taxes mean for one dollar and how it's really 50 cent good luck to you so you're spending a dollar 50 for every 50 but love
Starting point is 03:43:11 mic check we going man y'all hold it down everybody enjoy their weekend stay blessed stay safe Enjoy the weekend. Stay blessed. Stay safe. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Lies like this, I wish the rain would stop coming down. Come and melt my heart. Red and gray, hearts grow cold. Bitter leaves. Y'all stay here for New Year's? I'm meant to heal.
Starting point is 03:43:41 You make sure. Think I might try to go somewhere. Gotta get on it now. After this chorus we go, y'all hold it down out there. Wow! Hey, hey, shout to the Patroni, shout to the subgroups out there! We'll be back same time, same place next week! Oops! Wait up everyone! It's a sunny day Oops Oh, no I'm the reason I'm down to lay down
Starting point is 03:44:48 Always act like a dude with the hands up high But I'm not the one to blame You're the one You're the one Nights like this I wish The rain was some kind of doubt But I'm not the one to blame The rain was so cold You know the vibes.

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