The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 108 | "DAMN, Are We Selling Out?"

Episode Date: April 19, 2017

As you can probably see, we've finally named the podcast, but don't worry we still will be delivering you a free weekly podcast! On today's episode we discuss the podcast selling out, Kendrick Lamar's album and where he stands in hip hop, the Cleveland shooter, 13 Reasons Why, Melo, and more! Sleeper Picks of The Week: Joe: Sabrina Claudio "Confidently Lost" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXiMKUu_1xs Rory: ELHAE "Slip And Fall" |https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SAvcLKjzEU Mal: Xavier Omär "Blind Man" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS_V9iXBtxw

Microphone check. One, two, one, two, one, two. We are live back in action. Damn it. I was just about to say it. Just about to say it. Just about to say it. But I can't say it.

We are rebranding. Oh, boy. We are. They'll know by now. They'll see the picture by now. I hate that word. We sold out. We totally did.

So? No way. No way. And when I talked to my immediate circle They were all like Nah that name was amazing And I was like Nope

Gotta rebrand Well We're moving into Doper spaces We're moving on up It's not just us talking anymore Oh see now I'm uncomfortable Cause I agree with more

Like so But Oh no Fuck that man We sold out We're here for the bigger picture, guys. I'm here for the bag. We want to continue to do this podcast.

I will call this shit anything for the bag. We'll call it the bag. I will, too. The fucking bag. The bag podcast. For the bag? This name of the podcast is For the Bag. You goddamn right we sold out.

What the fuck is you talking about? Probably two hours of fucking ads. For the bag. Hey, we laughing and joking But we have not sold out yet Exactly That is the key Motherfucking word

That lets you know Where this is headed We ain't even sell out yet And we sold out And I'm not gonna talk Too much on this Because You other podcasters

Haven't quite figured it out yet So I'm sure And you're not gonna know Yeah and so Till it's too late Till we sold out already And it's episode 109 of For The Bag 108

So we're at 108 Welcome to the Joe Button Podcast I want 108 bags Across from me is Rory Lane That's just not even that funny Why do I have to still blink Close my left eye to know Which direction is which Across from Rory lanes. That's just not even that funny. To Rory's. Why do I have to still blink, close my left eye to know which direction is which across from Rory? I'm closing my left eye trying to figure out which way Maul is from Rory. Wait, that's how you figure out your left eye?

Yeah. I'm still that guy. That's crazy. Whatever. Okay. Whatever works. Whatever works. Maul, you can never say that's crazy to me no more.

All right. And Maul is next to Rory. Because Maul do too much crazy shit To be able to say that to me Oh damn that's crazy For real And you know what got me to thinking about that What Cause now we really getting into

I didn't want to start with this Or talk about it too much But now that we really getting close To the pool party time In my head I'm just thinking Of all your greatest Yeah Pool party

You should have a DVD. I should. I wish I did. I swear to God. I wish I did. You should. I'm thinking about all of that. Right.

So, yeah. Mo, you can't ever say that's crazy to me. All right. So, where do we begin? Oh, what episode is this? 108? 108, yeah. 108.

Where do we begin? I feel like a lot has happened. I'm very, now that I do the complex shit with fucking lackademics, I really cherish the time I spend with you guys, and I'd be happy to see y'all on Tuesdays now. Yeah. Now it really just be like, you know, some people used to say, oh, I love it since Maul has come.

Sounds like barbershop talk. And I was like, yeah, I get how they say that. But now it's like that for me. Yeah. It's like, oh, yes. Like Rory's even like an adult now to me. I'll be 27 in like a week. Which I told him.

That's kind of crazy. Wait, let's address that too. I told Rory that he's about to be 27, which means he has to shed all of his fuckboy behavior now. Shit. At 27? Yes. I don't think you do. But I still don't have that little safeguard where if I do some dumb shit, I'd be like, oh, I'm young.

I'm all right. Nah, 27, that's gone. That's gone. You think he still has room? Well, where I want to end up, I think I should start not with my fuck boy shit. 27 should be the way to start. Yo, I've been hanging out with, me Me and Rory been hanging out A little bit man I see how he be moving out there

In the streets a little bit Me and Mo was at 4040 I see how Rory works Works at Ruma No wonder y'all Renamed it Rory is a fun No no no

Let me tell you about Rory Oh wait I'd love to hear about Rory I'd love to hear about me too So some dude That we went to go support Mack Wilds And his music And his screen

Shout out to Mack Shout out to Mack at 4040. So we walk in. So some guy walks us in. He's walking in. Now, I'm thinking Rory knows this guy, right? Like, he's walking in. Him and Rory talking.

Rory turns to me after the guy says, yo, we should flick it up. He asked for a flick in the middle of walking upstairs in the 4040. So I'm thinking. A packed 4040. Yeah, so I'm like, it's kind of weird. Yeah, who for a pick? Rory. Well, no, mind of weird Yeah who for a pick Rory Well no mind you

You wanted a pick with Rory Yes We walk up to the To the actual door And they say Yo I'm gonna go grab Blank whatever his name was And I'm thinking

It was Maul's Connect Cause Maul is fucking Big's brother And we're at 40-40 So I'm thinking Maybe this is a Maul is part owner In 40-40

Yeah I know Honestly For real Honestly he says For real But let me No let me tell a story. I'm thinking, this is Mars, man.

This dude, this dude is, oh, this dude is like really talking to Rory like they know each other, right? So I'm like, okay. Rory turns to me and says,

who the fuck is that? So I'm throwing off now because I'm like, what do you mean? You and this dude have been having a conversation. I don't know. For 30 minutes. Yeah, he's like, I don't know that guy. So then the dude come in. He starts talking.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then I hear Rory say, oh, yeah, Maul right here. Yo, I was doing that all night. It was great. So everybody that's recognizing Rory from the podcast, he wants to pull me right into that fuck shit. This was the great. I've never had. Now, Maul right here. That's what he wants to pull me right into that fuck shit. This was the great. Nah, Maul right here.

That's what he keeps saying to everybody. Maul right here. You ain't see Maul? I'm like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is not what we doing tonight. I'm not really a people person, even though I seem to be one. But I always want to be nice to our fans because I do appreciate when they listen.

So I don't want to be rude when people come up. But now that I have Maul next to me, I can just be like, thanks. Yo, Maul's right here. And that's my duck out. I'm the wrong person because I will spin that shit all the way around. I don't know who he talking about and who he think I am right now. That ain't me. That whole story you just said is exactly why I stay home. Right.

To avoid the weird guy talking to me for 10 minutes in 40-40. Yeah, but I watched Rory work the room and I see how he be moving out there especially at Henny Palooza right oh man

I don't work the room you need a documentary on just you I could work rooms it's not at Henny Palooza on just you just need a documentary Rory's very interesting too

I was telling Johnny right and I don't want this to be all this all this fucking small talk but I was telling Johnny, right, and I don't want this to be all this fucking small talk, but I was telling Johnny a few weeks ago that this podcast turned out dope by mistake. Yeah, it was organic. Because Rory ended up just here as a friend just holding down, right? I had no idea that you and your off-air lifestyle is cool to the hipster people.

So you brought the hipsters. Then Maul came organically and brought the NBA, NFL crowd, the Bronx bitches. The Bronx bitches, he said. Maul brought a crowd. Maul brought us the 18-year-old demographic, too. Yeah, yeah.

And I just get us in rap beef. Yeah. You're keeping the hipsters now. Yeah. Y'all pushing that agenda hard. We're not pushing it. It's really just you. It's really just you.

Nah. I'm not a hipster. Nothing about me says hipster. You're employed by the hipster. I'm getting rid of the fucking hipsters up there. I've enjoyed your rants. I've liked them. I disagree with you a bit on L.A. Reid,

but that's neither here nor there. Oh, please. Just a bit. Outside of LeFace. He did something good. He has. Outside of LeFace. Jeezy was L.A. Reid.

Jeezy was Shakia. Brought to L.A. Reid. Yeah, what did L.A. do with him? A lot of good. Oh, please. So my main point was he just doesn't have his pulse on hip-hop. He has other people to do that.

Shakia, rest in peace, being one of them. Puff being another one. Fucking Shaw Money being another one. Come on. How are you going to argue against this? I was also going to argue against you saying they exploited Bobby Shmurda. And while I kind of do feel that way, to bring up Shaw, they brought Shaw in because L.A. and Shaw are very close. Mm-hmm.

L.A. saying, I'm not really a rap guy. You are the rap guy right now. So, Shaw brought Bobby and them in. I know. So, Shaw was in charge.

It wasn't like they were exploiting it. Shaw's from G-Unit. It just so happened it was a very terrible ending. But what'd you think? L.A. was gonna bail him out? I never thought that. I think it could have ended much different had he had the backing and support of

his label all right so so if russell simmons is in charge with shot money that that's not happening what year is it now uh maybe i agree with you it's probably not happening today. All right. 1997. Oh, yeah. He's getting out. He's backing him. We're backing Bobby Shmurda in 1997. Yes. No.

Yes. No. Yes. Yeah. In 97. They're signing Sony. Hell yeah. It's fucking Sony. You are wrong, my nigga.

Yeah, we are. In 97. In 97, definitely. In 97, we're going to get Bobby Shmurda. Today, you're right. Yeah. Nah. The label's letting himda. Today, you're right. Yeah. Nah, the lady was letting him sit.

Wait, wait. If he had that hit, that hit and it worked like that in 97, he's coming home. No. Wait, and he got more in the tuck? Because you know he went in with more in the tuck. He had shit working.

They was excited. Bobby still got shit in the tuck. Bobby's going to come home with shit. And Bobby's going to be just fine. That's why I can't wait for him to get out. That's my point. So you know. Exactly. No, but be just fine. That's why I can't wait for him to get out. That's my point. So you know, exactly.

No, but I'm saying that's why they would get him out in 97. That case is being determined by the state of New York, not an exec at a record label that's

on Sony. That case has been Sony is running the fuck out of here. What you think, they bailed Bobby out now? Oh wait, you're

talking about Sony in 97. I don't care about Sony. Sony is Tommy Mottola. Epic, I don't care about Sony. Yeah, no, we're talking about Epic. We're talking about Epic. Sony is Tommy Mottola. Epic, I don't even remember where L.A. was and what was going on. He wasn't there, but I'm just saying, back then, I don't care about the label. But we getting him out in 97.

L.A., a lot of credit for Dungeon Family, too. We can wrap this up because they can watch your TV show for that. Shut up. Your TV show. That sounds real. I had to defend L.A. a little bit. I started to send a bunch of mashed potatoes up there for all that corn Shut up. Your TV show. That sounds real. I had to defend LA a little bit. I started to send a bunch of mashed potatoes

up there for all that corn, man. I ain't gonna lie. That was the oldest thing you ever said. There's a lot of corn up there. Speaking of 97. I started to send

30 pounds of mashed potatoes up there with an anonymous name. Yo, you so dumb. For the corn. All that fucking corn up there, man. It's a good show.

Yeah, it is. A that fucking corn up there, man. It's a good show. Yeah, it is. A million fucking views across all platforms daily. It's a good show. You know what that means? Oh, you bitches, I'm coming. Some of y'all don't know what that means. We're getting into that later, too.

But Kendrick, we've cookie-cutter discussed this on my cookie-cutter platform. Of course That we're ridding of cookie cutter-ness This was someone that said Kendrick is not melodic That's who you did it with But continue continue continue

I didn't understand that but okay go ahead Y'all have to understand that academics really don't know shit Axe said something very smart That I might steal from him These stands make you say bad things About artists you like I thought that's true I like when I said that that was true. He's a good sensible kid and when he learns the ropes of the business He'll get it but Unfortunately, he speaks for the call a community. Oh, have you checked the YouTube comments? No, I will not no I will not

Obviously, that's not everyone that's viewing. It's only the people that are weird enough to comment on a YouTube video. They are all there for academics. That is their God. He's a God, I know. He is a God. Is he a God? On YouTube?

Dog, it blew me away. I didn't understand that. I learn something every day. I didn't know that. Well, Complex viewed him as competition at some point. So, I mean, that says enough for me. Complex viewed academics as competition at some point. So, I mean, that says enough for me. Complex viewed academics as competition? Yeah.

I'm doing something wrong. Yeah, me and Maul, we've been hanging out a lot this week. We went out to dinner with people and shit. Y'all are losers. What are y'all doing? Maybe. Why are y'all going out to dinner? Listen, we've learned that all of the corny shit, I'm doing it now. I don't give a fuck. You're waking up at 6 a.m. to hang out with Ackman. We're going out to dinner with great people.

We've learned that all of the corny shit, I'm doing it now. I don't give a fuck. Me and Maul are going to start skits on YouTube. I'm doing all the corny shit. We was trying to be cool. Because they're giving bags for corny now. And I want a bag. I have a theory about Maul and wanting a bag.

The corny people are still going to get the bag. Yeah. So it's corniness added with going to get the bag. The corny people are still going to get the bag. Yeah. So it's corniness added with going to get the bag. You know how many talented niggas I know that ain't willing to get up and go get the fucking bag? That's correct. That's my point? That's correct.

So we can't be mad at any of the corny people? No, no, no, never mad. Never mad. I'm just going to get the bag. We can still call them corny, though. Yeah, they always be corny. Yeah, no, we can call them corny. I'm going to spoon feed and baby step walk academics to a bigger bag.

I'm going to change his life real quick like he's fucking Kalen or somebody. Kendrick. Let's get to Kendrick. That's a wild transition. Kendrick. That's a wild transition. Kendrick has the ability to stop time because Rory just reminded me that his album just came out. Yeah.

We haven't discussed it at all in this podcast, yet I feel like this is our eighth podcast discussing Kendrick's album or the build up or the anticipation. And like I told y'all, he was going to get niggas out of here. He was going to be rapping his motherfucking ass off. Well, no one died, guys. I know you say he was getting everyone the fuck out. I said he was going to deliver a great album. He did. But I will say, right now, Kendrick Lamar is the best active rapper alive, and I will stand by that.

Oh, good. This opens the door. This opens the door for my take. My take on this one. The best active. Best active rapper alive. That I specifically saved for this podcast. My definition of active is not you put a verse out every once in a while. No, you're talking about full projects. Like you are active. Yeah. You're putting albums out. That's a bold statement, but I see why you make that statement. Okay, Joe.

Hmm. You ready for it? Let's not get into, because I know. Joe? Hmm. You ready for it? Let's not get into, because I know where you can go. You ready for it? Yeah, I'm ready. Now, let me explain this to the listeners. Now that I have this fucking complex show, it forces me to think about things that I've never wanted to think about. You've been realizing things? Yes.

Yes, I have been realizing things. Right? So, as an emcee, the answer to this question has always been myself. So when I am forced to take me out of this equation and think about the field, somehow I think I've narrowed it down. I think I have narrowed down my best rapper in the world to two individuals tied 1A, 1B, both for very different reasons. And I put these two gentlemen against any two that anybody else would think of. Ready? Yeah. Number one, I go Kendrick.

Predictable Two, I go Royce Royce the 5'9 Kendrick Lamar Royce the 5'9 To me Those are the two best rappers in the world Currently Right now

Today I don't think that's a super hot take i will say you put royce and kendrick against each other on a stage and just rap royce is tearing kendrick's ass up i'm gonna remember more lines from royce it'll be wittier but if these two were supposed to make an album that comes out the same day a rap album i think kendrick is is going over royce there just from his artistry point of view and i think that's also because royce comes from old school where you rap kendrick is forced to do this melodic shit just because that's what's popping right now but he mixes it so well with rap music that i think he'd have the better album right now

but you put them on a stage royce is tearing kendrick the fuck up in my opinion interesting um lyrically i agree with you i think that kendrick may have the better performance on that stage kendrick is an amazing, much better than a lot of us. And I say us as in us, the rappers, much better than a lot of us. Well, Kendrick to me is an artist in every sense of the word. He pays attention to detail. He's very calculated. He's very conscious of how he looks and how he comes across and how his music sounds. And he blends jazz and hip-hop and all these different genres in his music.

So he's more, he's an artist. And you see that when he's on stage. Royce is very meticulous. He's a perfectionist. Yes. You know what I mean? Like, I've sat in the studio with Royce, and I'm like, Jesus Christ. He's different.

Yeah, it's like, shit. His ear is different. Yeah, like, it's like he's so, like, he hears shit, and you're like, how the fuck did you even hear that? You know what I mean? Like, he's so, like, he hears shit and you're like, how the fuck did you even hear that? You know what I mean? Like, he's very, again,

pays attention to detail and he's very calculated in what he does. I'm not mad at those two names at all. Now, Royce to me wasn't,

I didn't, that's not a popular name that people would have thought you would throw out there. At all. Because people don't really follow Royce's catalog like they should

and they don't pay attention to him like they should. Although he's been gaining ears this last year, I'm seeing more people pay attention and mention Royce. Hey, I'm going to take a second to really highlight some shit, because that's true. People ain't really watching Royce.

Often at times, because him and I are so close, I may not watch him. Right. Right? Just because you know you get caught in your own lives and shit right but really look at all of Royce's last

seven years damn near I could say right from Success is Certain to Prime to Bad Meets Evil to even recently with the slew of fucking freestyles.

That's why I feel comfortable with layers. Because Royce doesn't seem like he's letting up at all. He seems like he's getting better. Yeah, project-wise, nah, he ain't letting up steam at all. And for a nigga that has been here rapping since the 90s, yeah. There's something to be said for that type of longevity now today when we talk about who's the best emcee we don't really think about longevity that's not really important back in the day when everybody had in the world by the way that doesn't care about longevity

like that's the only reason that you know and it seems like it seems like when uh we say it it may be hate like but when you say kendrick is not in the top ten, for most people it's just a longevity thing, like where you rank him on the all-time list. Clearly his performance warrants that, album-wise. Sometimes it's not fair to do that because he hasn't had the opportunity to fail. I mean, of course he has. But to the people that are in there

we know hove has been putting out nine albums that were amazing so kendrick putting out three of course is great but yeah i kind of have to put the longevity point in there because i know this artist has done this for multiple and multiple albums they continue to deliver. I can't say that with Kendrick. I can compare Kendrick's first three albums to another artist's first three albums and come up with something there. And I can say he's the best active rapper. I just don't know if I'm ready to put him in there

or off three records. That's all. You know what I didn't even really notice until I stopped and thought recently? You know what I didn't even really notice until I stopped and thought recently? Wale, Kendrick, Cole, Sean, all of these gentlemen, right? They're like the elder statesmen now. Yeah.

Oh, shit. Is that not crazy? Yeah. Yeah. Wale has put out a shit ton are they are the veterans yeah leading the the core we better be looking at who the fuck is underneath them let me tell you something that academics kid the academics schools me on hip-hop a lot off air he does and i don't have any idea who playboy cardi is he's up and coming but my that's my point is a lot of them it's a million of them up and comers now with platforms and followings that

people people fuck with that kid like people know his music is what i'm saying like that's where the time goes This is my point. Right. I feel like time has just been like encapsulated the past decade. Like Marvin's Room

and Take Care, these are old joints. 2011, yeah. Well, hip hop moves, one year is five years to hip hop. So it moves very quickly. It's not like most genres.

And especially with the internet now, every, a minute is one fucking year now. So that you have to take into account. Is this the year that the summer anthem returns in hip-hop? That's a good question. Has there not been one?

What was it last year? Before we left Kendrick, I did have one more point. No, we're getting right back to Kendrick. Young M.A. That, to me, I think I could be wrong, just off the top of my head. And off the top of mind, I feel like the last summer anthem was Bobby Shmurda. No. Young M.A. definitely took that.

Yeah. What do you mean? Last year? Mm-hmm. Yeah, Hefany was the shit. What was the one before that? The year before that. The summer before that.

Maybe I'm thinking of that summer. All right, but either way, Kendrick. To Maul's point of Kendrick's artistry, because I know we're speaking of him as a rapper, that the summer before that maybe i'm thinking of that summer all right but either way kendrick uh to maul's point of kendrick's kendrick's artistry because i know we're speaking to him as a rapper and maul make a great point of how kendrick even though he's a phenomenal rapper has became a great artist too i think since we're ranking rappers let's rank artists is drake a better artist than kendrick yes i don't think it's fair but i'm still gonna say drake is a better artist than Kendrick? Yes. I don't think it's fair, but I'm still going to say Drake is a better artist. He has more facets to his game.

It's not even really a fair competition. He's a better artist. I think Drake is a better – I'm comfortable saying that because I know a lot of Drake people got really, really upset this weekend. I don't like to compare Drake as an artist. Drake as an artist is like Madonna. Yeah, but he's still a rapper. Right?

So he's allowed to be in these conversations. I don't think so. See, I think that's over with. I think that's over with. And that's just where I could be wrong. Drake still raps. That nigga is far eclipsed. That nigga's star is

different. He's like real like a Michael Jackson. Let me put this point then. And I'm not trying to diss him or throw shade if people just think everything I say. I don't diss somebody by calling him Lionel Richie or Michael Jackson. That doesn't even make sense to me.

That's not a diss in any way. I'm telling you, I don't know what the fans be thinking, bro. I know you're new to the podcast, but everything we say That's not a diss That's not a diss in any I'm telling you I don't know what the fans Be thinking bro I know you're new to the podcast But everything we say About Drake is a diss The fuck Like come on man

Stop it So that's why I wouldn't even So now Kendrick Alright Has Drake Taken himself out Of the best rapper Alive

Or in the top 10 With this transition Has he taken himself Out of that conversation With his success? And that, Maul, is why maybe someone would take it as a diss. Because the tradeoff for being as big as Michael Jackson is all of the purists are going to say, well, we're not putting you in the top five rappers

because you're not a rapper, really. Like, I know Slaughterhouse has done grading Drake as a rapper because he's big. He's not that. He's a different package. He's a different package. So Kendrick is at the top of rap artistry. That's how I feel.

So that's not a fair fight. I'm picking Drake against most people that you put him against their artistry. I'm picking Drake. All right. I do want to do the point that I brought up. Kendrick's first three albums versus who we would say would be in the top five. Let's just go with the basics that everyone loves. MJ, Big, throw Pac in there.

Nas. Is that a cool five just for the sake of conversation? All right, let's go through it. Pac is really not fair. Pac produced better albums later on in his career. Tupacalypse now was, I think most of us would say, not the greatest debut, but it had joints on it. Nas, what was Nas' third album?

I Am. Oh, that's a tough three. I'm going with Nas' three over Kendrick then, if I Am as the third. It's tough when you have Illmatic and it was written as your first two. Well, and this is my point, with Nas and Hov, contrary to popular opinion out there, I love both of those third albums. Well, I like volume two over volume one for Hov.

I like volume one too. I do too. I love volume one. I don't understand why hov be getting killed which one is it that hov gets killed for volume one because it had all the old oh it should have went to big man volume one is a classic blueprint two they kill him for that double disc that should have been a single disc if that were a single disc then jay is still on his hot streak but he was still on his hot streak regardless of that album or not.

He was still hot. No, no, no. I'm saying, all right, wrong choice of words. Of course he was on his hot streak. Album streak. M, Slim Shady,

Marshall Mathers, Eminem show? Am I wrong? It sounds right to me. The Eminem show takes M out of that. You think? Listen, I'm not the biggest Eminem fan. Those three albums are tough to beat.

Yeah. Am I thinking of Encore, maybe? Eminem Show was probably one of his most successful albums. What's on Eminem Show? And that's wild. Come on, internet. That's another case

where I'm so close to somebody that now I'm forgetting their catalog. And I don't mean me and Em are besties, but I'm saying. Keep talking because Ferrari's Internet's not good. Why would I ever diss Troy Ave? Do you know them niggas I have beefed with? We're going to get into that. Let's stay on topic.

But as I'm thinking about the people I have beefed with in my career. White America, Cleaning Out My Closet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sing for the Moment, Superman, Hailey's Song. Oh, yeah, no. M is back. M is back. M is back.

M is back. I'm sorry. My apologies. M is back. M is back. M is back. I'm going with M. Yeah.

All right, so I'm going with M's. I'm going with Nas. I'm going with J's. Big we can't do. And I'm going with Big's. Unless you count't do. And I'm going with Big. Unless you count Born Again. I'm not doing Born Again, but if I count Life After Death as two, then I'm doing Big too.

And do you know that people have the fucking audacity in my mentions? That's the problem with this complex show. It's putting people in my mentions to talk about hip-hop. Pun and Big are not at equal place because they were both overweight and died early. Pun is a better rapper. Big is a better artist. Pun is a better lyricist. are not at equal place because they were both overweight and died early. Pun is a better rapper. Big is a better artist. Pun is a better lyricist.

Big is a better rapper. All right, that's probably a better way to put it. But with that said, back to that whole aging thing. I don't know how great Kendrick's three albums are going to age. I can't call that. I think they're going to age well. To pimp a butterfly only sets this Kendrick back a little are going to age. I can't call that. I think they're going to age well, but I don't know. To pimp a butterfly only sets this Kendrick back a little bit for me.

To you, not to the rest of the world. Yeah, no, no, no, no. I know, I know, I know, I know. Now, wait now. Because outside of us, those first three albums would beat a lot of people we just said. I want to know who is picking Kendrick's first three albums to win against Nas, Em, or Hov? People my age, I think a good majority would. Oh, and they're not familiar.

I'm talking about people that are familiar with everybody's catalog. But that's tough because you grew up on that stuff, so it means more to y'all than we grew up. Well, not grew up, but came into our own around those albums, so they may mean more to us than Nas ones. That raises an interesting question and point. Do y'all underrate Hov's catalog? I don't know if you should ask me this. Underrate?

Not you or Rory or me, but the people younger than Rory, the people that are, you know, like the people watching sports today, they know Jordan is the man. But they don't know Jordan was the man. I think, see, the thing is for me with music is it captures a moment in time. So I think it hits you differently when you were actually out and doing things

and moving around when this music was created because you can relate to things differently. A lot of people wasn't coming outside around Volume 1. A lot of people wasn't coming outside Reasonable Doubt. A lot of people wasn't coming outside Illmatic. You know what I'm saying? So they don't really understand it. They don't recognize the greatness in it because they were too young.

You know what I'm saying? Just like a lot of people now, they think that LeBron is better than Mike. You'll have some people say that. LeBron is the greatest basketball player. That crowd is growing. Yeah, it is. By the way. You know what I'm saying?

I don't feel that way. That's because we've watched LeBron for the past 10 years. It's been tangible in front of us. That's what I'm saying. So it's like the kids growing up now, that's their Jordan. Highlights don't really capture it. Right. is going up now,

that's their Jordan. Highlights don't really capture it. Right. Like, you had to be really in front of the TV on Sunday to see the Bulls

and the Knicks when Mike was in the garden going against Pat. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, just to watch that now,

it doesn't even feel the same because you had to really be out like, really old enough to understand the game. Yeah, like, I had a little bit of money

when I showed you how to do This song came out And let me tell you It's a different feel Yes it is It's different Damn you paid them

Whole Yeah How you gave them that Yeah Yeah And like I'll listen to Like a Boogie Down Productions song

And respect it And totally understand What it means But It doesn't feel You don't feel I don't feel nothing With it Yeah And I don't mean that Disrespectfully I just wasn't even alive When it means, but it's not. I don't feel nothing with it.

Yeah, yeah. That's my point. And I don't mean that disrespectfully. I just wasn't even alive when it came out. Right, right. That's my point. That's my point. I'm going sick of you niggas with your an hour later raps.

Rap about it now. Hope you get it. That nigga. Yeah. Hov had a run where, and I don't want to turn this into Hov because the 3R is a huge Hov fan, so we'll be here forever. But goddamn, he had a runway He was just the deadliest nigga in the universe

I've said that hoax is underrated lyrically Yeah I believe that I think it's underrated lyrically I would agree I would agree Chris Rock I think put it the best Anytime

Whatever music was playing When you started getting pussy That's the music you're going to love For the rest of your life I agree That probably stands I agree In this conversation I agree I That probably stands in this conversation.

I agree. I was talking to Kaiser the other day. I told him, Kaiser, me and my father tore him and Angie up in the spade tournament. They was winning. Me and my father got a 10. Kaiser thinks we were cheaters to this day. Right? But anyway, so I told him to set up the card game with him and Hov.

And he said, damn, man, I miss old Hov, man. I miss when Hov had enemies. I said, Kaiser, I'm happy that I could, you know, I could say let's play cards, maybe get a verse one day. I'm happy to hear all that. Kaiser's like, yeah Yeah all that's great Right But I'm telling you Joe man

Remember when Hov had enemies Yeah Think about when Hov had enemies I miss that I say yeah That was a good time in hip hop too though When Hov had enemies It was

It definitely was Shit Everyone was Hov was a bad enemy to have The worst Why would you want to have him as an enemy The pettiest The pettiest

I should ask you that Yeah right I was stupid. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. Poe was a friend of the show to me. I don't know about you. I'm well documented as being the dumbest nigga ever in my 20s.

Yeah, you are. I was wrong and stupid. Yeah. Right in point and emotion. Wrong in every other arena and facet. So, fuck me in my 20s, nigga. Right. I'm fully loaded now. Oh, we rockin' now, though, baby. Alright, so, uh,

what else do we have about Kendrick? Kendrick is great. The album is great. Duckworth, where do you put that as far as stories go? Alright, so now, I got killed for saying that, uh, maybe Kendrick is the best storyteller that we have today in hip-hop, and all the Cole fans got mad at me. I don't like that, Cole fans.

I don't like that. Now I see how y'all feel about Budden fans and Wale fans. I don't like how I'm talking about one rapper, and now y'all just bring up a whole different rapper. Right. I'm not saying that Cole don't tell stories. But they're arguing that Cole may be better, but their energy is directed in I can't believe you didn't say Cole.

Right. Does Cole tell a better story than Kendrick Lamar? I'm asking you both, your opinion. Cole is a good storyteller, though. He's a great storyteller. Lost Ones was a phenomenal story. That's early Cole. This past album, which I didn't like,

the last record is an incredible story though It could compete with Duckworth It could Duckworth is nuts Because it's true No it's still It's nuts If it wasn't true

It would be nuts If it was all a lie It would be nuts It's more You're right That's the icing on the cake But if that was A false story

And he was Just made it up and wrapped it it's still hard it's still crazy now with that said Lupe I know Maul hates it every time I say that name but Lupe is a great storyteller as well because you just too cool to listen to Lupe where do you get this from I still don don't understand where you get this from. I'm telling you, one time at the compound, we had a talk, and I said, Lupe, beans. And of course you pick beans, but there's nothing wrong with that. But the way that you were so dismissive of Lupe got me to saying, damn, because you were like the voice of the streets to me, all your Bronx goonies. So that was telling me, damn, the streets ain't feeling Lupe

the way I'm feeling them? Like, that's not even a question? Lupe versus Beans? That dismissive? You thought the streets was gonna... That's an odd question for the streets. Lupe's a fucking gang member that knows karate and carries swords. Why is that?

Wow. At that time, that wasn't known like that. That wasn't known like that That wasn't known Man, y'all better go check Lupe's fucking background, man I'm not fighting Lupe I don't understand how you keep saying I don't fuck with Lupe I be joking around with Lupe

But I don't really want sauce Right, right Like, y'all better Nah, deadass Go ask about him So I wouldn't think that that's absurd If somebody in the streets would just say Like, when Kid Push came out

Before he really got super weird Joe, come on At that point in hip-hop Being on a skateboard in the streets would just say, like when Kid Push came out, before he really got super weird. Joe, come on. At that point in hip hop, being on a skateboard was just Pharrell. That was a little odd and you didn't think of Pharrell as a goon. Right. So if you bring up Beans

being one of the bigger goons in hip hop, yeah, I'm going to look at you nuts at that point and say, how would you compare those two? I was only comparing them as rappers because even though Beans is a street nigga,ccable mc impeccable mc lupe for whatever walk of life he comes from impeccable mc but anyway off to my bigger point lupe phenomenal storyteller underrated storyteller now underrated audience period yes i agree Future best storyteller. Future best storyteller. Jackie Joyner. Joyner Lucas.

Joyner Lucas. Joyner motherfucking Lucas. I'm sorry. I thought you were saying future. I thought you were bringing future up. No, Joyner Lucas. Yeah, he's a- Oh, my pick for future, in the future, best storyteller is Joyner Lucas.

Right now has one of the better. You could compare that to Duckworth. It's just not as popular. The shit about the kid that got shot in Michigan that was crazy that story was crazy with the video phenomenal that kid is really

really talented very mad that that Shaw scooped him up real mad about it I'm happy I'm team Shaw so you are real team Shaw

I would not be sitting here right now if it wasn't for Shaw Money I love Shaw too so I mean it's nothing for me to argue well I'm indebted so whatever he does I have to support it fuck with Shaw right now if it wasn't for Sean Money. I love Sean too. I mean, it's nothing for me to argue. Well, I'm indebted,

so whatever he does, I have to support it. Fuck with Sean. But yeah, I was real mad he picked up joining Lucas. Don't you fuck that up, Sean. I swear to God.

I swear to God. No, I don't think you can do that. Don't you fuck that up, Sean. I don't think you can do that. They just did a really long tour, so I think he's definitely in the right space.

And you have time, because that kid can go, for real. And when you could go, you afford yourself some time. Eminem, Stan, one of the best stories in hip-hop. So we got to throw Em back in there. True. Nas, of course, if that wasn't already brought up. But that's just getting repetitive. Wale was telling me that his Jesus Peace story, and that's what got me to remembering how old I was.

He said that perspective, like that style of story hadn't been done since Nas, I Gave You Power. Then I remembered how old I was when that song ruled my life. I was my son's age. Life is quick if you just start remembering life and hip hop oh man

this shit is fast Joe Button's a pretty good storyteller too though yeah not too bad oh yeah yeah yeah I've got underrated storyteller me I've heard some of your

greatest stories more more more more we're not talking about rap I was talking about rap. No, I am too.

There's a lot of shit that you ain't write yet, daddy. That I was there for. That's some of the greatest shit that was never heard. I'm telling you, I fucking text Lior

and he hasn't texted me back yet, but I'm waiting for him to text me back because some of that stuff I can bring to life right there on YouTube. Lior, call me. I'm telling you

We can bring those stories to life Absolutely Damn those are some good stories too But Yeah Joe Budden Underrated storyteller too Absolutely

I'm not allowed to say that But I am No you are I put three sides to a story Against any story Royster59 Oh my goodness gracious Yes

Yes Absolutely Underrated storyteller This is a good list we just did Yeah I think we just did Yeah I think we just came up with the best storytellers in hip hop Well shit we didn't even say big Big is amazing

Yeah Well I mean active Yeah I mean active Actively Because I was saying that And this is my response to the Cole fans That say Cole is a better storyteller than Kendrick

Cole tells a better storyteller than Kendrick. Cole tells a better surface story than Kendrick. If there's just a quick synopsis to be given, I'm going with Cole. Be clear that you're not saying Cole is surface. No, I'm not saying Cole is surface. No, I'm not saying Cole is surface. Cole fans, I'm not saying Cole is surface. I hate that we have to do that.

That's where we at in hip hop, man. I hate that we have to really break it down and really say what we're saying. You know nobody is saying that Cole is a whack storyteller or he's just a surface. We are in the era

of fucking sensitivity taking over and for somebody like me who's just blunt and want to fucking talk, boy, it's frustrating. All right, so back to the point. Cole, no, not surface.

But if we just want a quick summary of what happened, I think Cole will give it to us. Yeah. If just want a quick summary of what happened, I think Cole will give it to us. If we want to know what happened for real, I'm going to fucking Kendrick. Kendrick is just more detailed. And Cole fans, I'm going to pit Kendrick's entire first album

against anything y'all say. Because that's a story. One whole story, yeah. If you're not comparing record versus record, yeah. No, no, no. That whole first album is a story. That's a story One whole story Yeah If you're not comparing Record versus record Yeah No no no That whole first album Is a story

That's a story Yeah Yeah Agree That was such a bold move That concept album On your debut album I give Kendrick

A lot of style points That took a lot of confidence Yeah He do a lot of Ballsy shit man To pimp a butterfly After that Is ballsy Yeah Damn is lot of Ballsy shit man To Pimp a Butterfly After that Is ballsy

Yeah Damn is the least Ballsy thing he's done As great as that album is I actually like it better Than To Pimp a Butterfly I like it so much Because it's not so ballsy

It's like It's Kendrick chilling It's straight to the point It's good beats and rapping Yeah It's just good shit So in closing Do we have any more

Kendrick Kendrick's damn album To debut at number one on the billboard. I think 500,000. Moving almost 500,000 units. Congratulations. Hold up, man. Round of applause is fucking called for.

Very necessary. Well deserved. Wasn't really a shocker there. All right, all right, all right. Let's stay within younger rappers we had a conversation at the end of last week's podcast that never made it on air why do you hate tyler the creator i don't know tyler the creator so i don't hate tyler the creator I think that I would hate being around

Tyler creator that's funny I would hate that's cause you're an angry old man I know that sounds like a diss but I don't mean

to diss him it speaks to me you take that energy and put it towards his whole career you've thrown a lot of shots at him whether you know it or not

give them to me and I think you did well in our conversation afterwards you was make shots. I forgot what they were, but it made me write it down and say why you hate them. I love dissing Tyler,

the creator. I know. Why? He's easy to diss. Why? He just is. This started that whole Chance Independent debate.

I understand how you don't love him. He stands for everything you stood for. Independence. He's leading that independence at that point. I think he did a lot

for independent hip-hop. When I say I don't, see, this is where the line gets blurry. I don't feel I'm well-versed enough in Tyler or Odd Future to be able to have a retort for anything that you're saying. When I speak negatively on Tyler, Creator, it's just because I'm an introvert that just hates people, and watching him in his animation, Because I'm an introvert that just hates people.

And watching him in his animation, I know I would be driven crazy if I were around him. I'm not saying going to a room. So when I was in the elevator with him and I started going crazy in my head with him and Chance, and I'm looking at Chance and I'm looking at him, and they're just having a fucking fun time. Just young independent kids enjoying their life. Yes. And moving the culture forward, like you say. Yes, I hated it. And I'm sitting there with fucking slaughterhouse trying to fucking figure out how the fuck I'm getting off this tour.

How many more syllables you can fit in a sentence? Look how funny he finds that. There's something really wrong with you, man. There's something really wrong with you man It's something really wrong with you That is funny That's great So that's what I mean As far as him

Forwarding the culture And independence And all of that shit That video he did When he was eating snails I love that shit Earl sweatshirt I love him

Their show Tyler's brain, his show, like, I guess that's where it's blurry for me. Rapping, I judge him differently. His other stuff, everything about his brand, I love a lot. I love the show. I love when they diss me. I love what he does, the skits.

I love all of that shit. It took both of y'all to really school me on Donald Glover before I could appreciate him the way I should have honestly like and and that's when news just kept coming about him fucking again at different times from both of y'all Maul told me about him in fucking 2000 and whatever year that was and I was like man if you don't get this weird nigga to fuck out of my face and then you came and said yo you know he's not even a rapper i said huh he's a bunch of shit and it's like no he's a comedian wait a comedian he's an actor wait huh wait whoa see that was my point on the show today the ever we in is and i don't know if that's good for rap or bad for rap but the ever win is hybrid you got to be a

hybrid you got to be able to deliver in multiple fat you got to be mac wilds yeah you got to be who did we just name donald glover you got to be title the creator you got to be drake you got to be all these things that's what me and kaiser was talking about too when i was trying to get to the bottom of the 360 deal and who birthed it and where the fuck it came from. When I was doing my due diligence before I reported some shit, I went to fact check it, you fucking

piece of shit journalists out there. Anyway. By the way, I don't understand why you thought the 360 deal was good for hip hop, but that's neither here nor there. You mentioned that on the show. Wait, that was terrible for hip hop. That's not true. That's neither here nor there. You mentioned that on the show. I was like, wait, that was terrible for hip hop. That's not true. That's a misconception.

We would have went to Independence quicker had that 360 deal not existed because it kept the labels alive. From a label aspect, it was amazing. Great job, Kevin and Lior. You are now keeping Def Jam afloat because now you're taking their tour and their merch. That's not great for the artist. Now, time out. See, that's where it gets a little fuzzy. You be the label for a second.

And this is where I always understood. The label's thinking was, okay, you're not going to become a star unless we make you the star. You're going to have shit, zero zilch, unless we create it for you. We would want to partner in that. So, for example, Def Jam would still be eating off of Ludacris in his Fast and Furious fame if that were the type of deal that he were in. So, right, you can understand that thinking right right no i said it was great for the label so no it was great for the artists some artists too and that's where the 360 got blurry it was where it was great for some it was worse for more

i think it crippled the speed to independence to where we are now where we get an odd future that's leading the charge saying fuck every last one of these labels trying to sign me. I got execs tweeting me. I'm saying, fuck you back. I just think that's a myth. Like, that wouldn't have happened if the 360 didn't get out of here. Well, it's still here. It's still here.

It's not the most lucrative thing you can go to right now. Artists are still rushing to relinquish their rights. They're rushing at an all time high. It's not very many people that are still forwarding the waving the independence flag. So even though we have these chance arguments, I got to be pro chance, even if I don't think he's independent and pro Tyler. Well, I'm really pro chance a lot, like just the person he is. I would love to sit down and talk to him. Tyler, I would be scared to sit down and talk to

because my nerves would go. And that's me. That's not a detriment to him. I'm sure he's a great guy. Listen, I'm not an Odd Future fan. I just love what they represent. When they first came out, I heard it. I was like, all right, this isn't for me.

Maybe a couple years younger than me would like this. But I'm really happy that hip-hop is still scaring middle-aged suburban white parents because I felt like it wasn't scaring. I was like, all right, fine. White people are scared of hip-hop again. This is great. Because when Odd Future came out, parents were scared, terrified.

Those kids were nuts. The same reasons you just said. Tyler's kind of out of his mind. It's scared parents again. That's why I like them. I'm not going to go out You could be an odd future I could see you doing that I look like the older version

Of that white kid That they always put on the album cover So yeah I could see it I wouldn't know the white kid They always put on that scene Roy's a hipster But anyway

Sure So what else do we have? That was a lot of good content By mistake All of that was great What else do we have here That was a lot of good content by mistake. All of that was great. What else do we have here? Do we want to touch on? Stay on Chance.

He just did a deal with Netflix. Netflix is getting everyone the fuck out of it. They got Adam Sandler, Chappelle, just got Louis C.K., got Bill Burr. You got four of one of the bigger comedians out there. What deal did Chance do? They are going to do, like, you know how HBO, I could be getting this wrong, so don't kill me. You know how, like, HBO does the tours? I'm going to kill you if you get this wrong.

Okay. I was more talking to our listeners. Oh. Because the things you say in my mentions affect me so much. You know how HBO and Showtime and shit would follow artists for their tour, and you could watch their tour from your house? Chance is doing that with Netflix. Netflix is going to do that with his tour, which I think is amazing. Nobody wants to hear my, never mind.

Is he independent? Oh, I don't care about that. I don't even care about that. My bigger point that we won't talk about, Chance is, man, in the next five years. Oh, I know a point you want to talk about we're not talking about that we're not going to but in the next five years man oh it's happening the groundwork is happening yeah i don't want to get into it because we can't netflix deal nigga yeah he's already giving a million dollars to every boys and girls club he's already paying for geico insurance on every

car in chicago the groundwork is being laid y'all know if y'all seeing it but it's happening but anyway off of that do you want to talk about uh uh mr goodwin mr goodwin is the older gentleman who appeared to be murdered in broad daylight in cold blood by a man going by the alias of Steve Stevens, who earlier this morning committed suicide or yesterday morning committed suicide is the story. I didn't click the link to really continue reading about it. And boy, oh boy, before I saw that story, my brain was going with conspiracy theories. I was buying in. Where do we stand?

Are we rolling? I don't want to be insensitive to, because if this gentleman really does die. I haven't fact-checked enough, so I can't be insensitive yet. But from the jump, I didn't really buy it too much. The video, which I clicked by accident, because I was on it on the timeline right away. I was like, what is this video that everyone's talking about?

Before they were saying stop retweeting it. I clicked it and I watched it. As sick as it was, it still looked a little odd to me. If my phone is right there and I shoot someone in the head and I don't have blood when I turn the camera back to me or blood spray on the lens. I've never shot anyone in the head, but it's a little weird to me. But didn't think anything of it. Then the 15 bodies, but they can't find any of them.

Weird to me, too. They can't find someone with a GPS in their car and in your phone, and you're on Facebook non-fucking-stop. Weird to me. You're in fucking, you're seven hours away in three hours. Weird to me. You didn't stop at one toll. Weird to me you're in fucking you're seven hours away in three hours weird to me you didn't stop at one toll weird to me no gas weird to me that's where i stand on it all those things are

weird yeah that's why i ain't really trying to touch on that me neither but if that gentleman did pass away you know condolences to the family yeah that was really sick. And I think we need more gun control. Well, rest in peace if that was real to Mr. Goodwin. And rest in peace if that was fake to Mr. Goodwin. Because, boy, when they find out, they're going to let you have it. Whose idea was it behind that? I hate when that shit like that happens and then we got to start reading all the stories of, oh, this is just to keep y'all in the dark and keep y'all letters straight

when they trying to unveil a bigger picture down the line. Yeah, yeah. Y'all niggas watch too many movies, man. Speaking of. I'm not going to ask you if you've seen this mall. And we can time mark this by the way this is where I'm this is where I want to talk to Rory about the 13 reasons why

I don't know if anyone is definitely not seen this mall has not seen the 13 reasons why mall is one of the reasons why. Maul is a reason why. Maul has a tape. What?

Maul is tape six side B. Maul is a reason why. It's funny as hell. I don't even know what y'all talking about. All right, so Maul, let me school you so you can tell everybody on fucking Fordham. Listen. So, Mo, let me school you so you can tell everybody on fucking Fordham. Listen, 13 Reasons Why is a Netflix miniseries that seems to be taking the nation by storm.

And when I say nation, I mean my timeline. With that said, of course, it didn't make me rush to go see it, but it made my girlfriend rush to go see it. And because I live with her and we watch the same TV, I had to see it too now. And it's about a girl who killed herself. Oh, spoiler alert. I mean, you get that in the first episode. Well, some people haven't seen it, so I don't want to ruin this Like we've ruined so many good things That's the synopsis of it For people

A girl that killed herself A girl killed herself So now if you want to see this And you don't want me to ruin it for you Pause the podcast Or fast forward the podcast Or turn the podcast off now Now

13 Reasons Why is easily the worst mini-series I have seen this year. 13 Reasons Why is a piece of pure shit. I stand by that. All of the pundits that are about to come call me insensitive, you're right. I am insensitive. But that is independent of my main point. 13 Reasons Why is absolute trash.

Now, let me tell you why. What a fucking sappy after school special this was. Are you kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? That's the question. Are you kidding me? I'll let you finish have you ever seen an after-school special all right so let's do it it comes on and I'm staring at a locker and there's pictures and there's flowers and I assume the girl died and there's a voice now there's a voice now

and it's the girl's voice and this is a good concept i'm in as someone who has fought depression and thought about killing himself easily half of my life i think i'm qualified to speak on this so i loved the concept my girlfriend who also has had that that's a touchy area for her as well Also has had that. That's a touchy area for her as well. We're both excited to watch this fucking great suicide, suicidal girl documentary, whatever this is. Right now, the girl that killed herself has recorded tapes. And left them for the people that contributed to her killing herself. The reason why she killed herself.

And she left these tapes for the people to fucking hear. Are you fucking kidding me? FedEx just left these tapes at my doorstep one day, so now I opened it, and I'm compelled to play it and pass it along because the girl that died is on here? You died. If you don't get these tapes to fuck off my fucking front door... That's a lie,

but okay. Oh, please. Are you kidding me? If one of your friends killed themselves, you wouldn't listen to the 13 tapes they left behind on the line? She wasn't his fucking friend! They weren't friends! They were associates. They weren't friends at all. This is my point. If someone I go

to school with passes them to me and dies, I'll probably be like, all right, why don't you listen to these? This show was trash because it's very cookie cutter for someone who has really fought suicide and for someone who has actually really fought depression. This show, and this is where I get angry because I do like the fact that we put some type of light toward mental illness. I appreciate that. of light toward mental illness. I appreciate that. But don't fucking make it cookie cutter and this girl's killing herself because the fucking Chinese girl is gay

and wouldn't tell her and passed and told everybody in high school that she was a hoe. Guess what, Anna? That's fucking high school. That's high school. Bullying. I'm ready to give my side.

That is high school. Hey, in high school, they say all the girls are hoes. They lie on you. You're not telling me that that led to this, led to that. Oh, and this is another thing I hate. This is another thing I hate. And they do it a lot in law and order. I understand it there.

And they did it again here. And this is how I know that this docu docu series was not meant for me and my people it's difficult for us to identify with and I don't want to be insensitive here uh with being raped and still staying in touch with your rapist and still having to see your rapist. That's like a deep college type of thing. It's just college, but yeah. Well, wherever that happens. I think in the hood people are getting raped often by people in their building. But I want to let you finish because I have a lot to say to what you just said.

Interesting. I think that may be happening more. Well, I guess I got the college feel from it because it was in a school setting so you have to see someone every day to your point what you just said is kind of going to get to my point this was not for me i don't think this was set up and my hot take was the concept was far better better than the episodes every episode could have been a half hour not an hour let's just Let's just get that out of the way. 100%.

Let's get that out of the way. It dragged like shit. The shit didn't get fucking good until episode 11. But, Joe, I think when they did this, it was to focus on, because I think suicide probably is a big thing in high school, and I think they were touching upon that, which isn't really meant for you. It looked like an after-school special because the people they were trying to reach are the parents of those kids and those kids, and they recognize it.

You don't recognize it. That's why it wasn't for you. Even I was watching it like, I wish this wasn't really high school because I don't really relate to it right now. So I wish it wouldn't be recommended or under the genre of entertainment. It's like if you watch kids and said, well, I'm an adult. This is stupid. If you watch kids right now,

you will enjoy it. Kids is one of the best. Hey, any adult out there right now, if you watch kids, you'll enjoy it. If you watch City of God, you'll enjoy it. I can name some shit that's all kid, children related, and we're going to enjoy it.

But I think this was touching specifically upon bullying in high school. And I didn't get bullied. I don't identify with any of that. But just because you didn't, of course, your own personal opinion, you could call it trash, but I don't think they were saying, we need the Joe Buns of the world to come in and watch this. I think they need the kids of that age and the parents.

You're right, Rory. That's why it was cookie cutter in that aspect, because those issues now in middle america are being called a hoe that is making young girls kill themselves and that's more important to the rest of the world unfortunately the hood is not when there's a high school shooting everyone fucking stops when a kid gets killed in the hood from a stray bullet no one gives a fuck so they're going to put all their focus on these yeah we're 16 year old girls by his adderall today he's doing pretty good huh any on one his fucking eyes are red and all glossy like a demon yeah what's up bro yeah i agree you got it you got it man no one

don't smoke with you what happened yeah who touched. Who touched you? Yeah, word. I was on the 14th tape. For real. Where are you going? Hand right now. Pass that on to me. You're right, Rory. You're right about everything you're saying. And this is where I lose people sometimes.

Because the same way with Jordan Peele and Get Out, the social aspect of it, I understand and I agree. I'm able to separate that from the entertainment part. So the same with this. If this were just an educational type of thing to school people, great. I love the message.

I love what they're pushing. If it's entertainment, cut off your, cap your age group then. I don't know. I don't know. If it's entertainment, cut off your, cap your age group then. I don't know. I don't know. If it's entertainment, I hate it. I think it was designed for parents and kids of that age.

That's just what I think it was. I think it was such a well put together show that it seeped into our world because everyone was talking about it. But that doesn't mean it was for us. Yeah. Yes. All right then. So I'm mad at my fucking timeline for talking about shit that's not for us because when I see it, I'm judging it like it was for us yeah yes all right then so i'm mad at my fucking timeline for talking about shit that's not for us because when i see it i'm judging it like it's for us but very well

i gotta unfollow a lot of y'all my timeline hey let me be very clear with y'all on my timeline a lot of y'all still on my timeline because i don't remember who y'all are that's why y'all still i want to unfollow some of y'all but i don't remember if i need to follow some of y'all yeah and that's it that That's how I feel. All right, so fine. We will disagree on, well, not disagree, because we agree on the 13 Reasons Why. Oh, that's where we're back at. Yeah, we're back at that.

Oh, I forgot we punched him. Yeah, we punched him. We did some whole other shit. That was like three hours ago. I forgot what we were talking about. I know, and three hours later, because we just paused shit, listeners and viewership on YouTube to do an interview, and we don't't do interviews and the interview came out really great and then we punched back into mall start uh beginning where we left off or where we started at with him being

okay with selling out it all comes full circle for the bag hashtag hey but i'd like to know from the listeners if y'all will stop Listening to us If we sell out I don't give a fuck You have Wait see For the bag Bye bye

Checks deposited I've been real Way too fucking long If they stop listening to us Nah man I don't think They'll stop The bag's trance Nah man

We gonna keep The same energy And the same You know The same format And you know Do what we do Sometimes I would like to know I the same You know The same format And you know Do what we do Sometimes I would like to know

I would like to know The thoughts of Of the listeners Like There was a stretch Where we were trying To figure it out And I was like

Alright do we charge These niggas Like subscription based And that was scary Like I don't know If niggas is listening If they gotta pay Even if it was some cheap shit

You know niggas don't like to pay Yeah But then niggas like to demand Things when it's free Yeah It's nuts Yeah that's why you got to kind of find that medium people don't buy apps when they're a dollar right so it's kind of tough if you do that i'm the only guy running around buying apps and music nobody's doing it you stop and stream i even gave in to apple music i'm even streaming now just don't tell anyone or the 100,000 people listening. Don't tell any of your friends.

I've given in. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. I have no choice. Can they figure something out when I'm on the train? Streaming is not good for New Yorkers. It's good for the rest of the world.

Does streaming work on the train? No. No. See why that's ass? They have Wi-Fi, you know, certain stations and stuff like that

so you could connect and, you know, certain areas on the train you might still get Wi-Fi, you know, certain stations and stuff like that. So you could connect and, you know, certain areas on the train, you might still get Wi-Fi, but it's not that good. I ain't took the train since I was 17. I don't know what's going on. You should take the train some days, man. Why? It keeps you humble. Not only that, it gives you a different appreciation for like, you know. And not only that, you being that complex that complex now is actually not a bad idea

because you can park uptown somewhere by the tunnel or downtown by the tunnel and jump on the train a couple stops. You right there. Right, Coach?

Oh, all of that makes perfect sense if I didn't have a car service to take me to and from where I ain't getting in my car and driving to fucking work. Oh, well, yeah. I live to it

up and on the motherfucking train. Speaking of selling out, but yeah, go ahead. That's not a sellout move. Are the trains, is the train system in New York still nasty and disgusting? No, it's getting better. They upped the price of tokens, Metro cards and shit. That nigga said tokens. Oh, there's no tokens no more, right?

Nigga, it ain't been tokens since Big was alive, I think. Probably before that. It might have been MetroCards when Big was alive. Okay, so to my point about tokens. Period when it was tokens and MetroCards. They raised the price of tokens when there was tokens. Yeah, no, now it's- No, they raise that shit every other goddamn month, 25 cents.

I'm not getting on no damn train. Niggas only get- Famous people get on the train when it's time to promote some shit. I was going to say, I'm parking in some shit That's when Hov Hov and Beyonce Want to take the train To the Barclays Center And I'm not wrong I know you can't talk about it

Because you tight on Roc Nation But whatever I got a lot of shit Y'all just be throwing No so let's throw it to you now Because you told me that No Way Mellow will be a Nick next season I told you that

And I said you was kind of off You did tell me that. And I keep seeing things that defy rule of thumb and common thought, such as the Knicks picking up Phil Jackson's final two options on his five-year contract. And Phil Jackson saying Mello should just move on. Phil Jackson saying the things he's saying about Mello. Mello's gone, man. Now with the La La shit going on, Mello has had a really rough season.

And I love Mello and I fuck with him. It's going to hurt me as a Nick fan to see him leave. Yeah, I mean, everything runs its course, dude. I think it just ran its course, man. He tried and he gave it his years, some of his best years. I think Nick's loyal stand by that and we fuck with Melo.

I'm by Melo the whole time. Fuck the New York Knicks. They did nothing for it. Yeah, Phil Jackson, man. Get the fuck out of here. We love you, Melo. The Phil Jackson move kind of blew up.

We did nothing for Carmelo. We let a Hall of Famer in his prime die on a team. Fuck the New York Knicks. They got him in the wrong system. Well, more importantly than that, because this is not about Melo for me. Melo's career and legacy, he's secured his bag.

Hall of Famer. Yeah. Porzingis seems to be siding with Melo. Yeah, he's frustrated. I'm feeding into him liking that picture. Yeah, he's frustrated. That should be a big deal for the Knicks if they're trying to invest their future in him. Now, I'm not even thinking about that.

I'm thinking about the draft pick. Whatever the draft pick is, because I do feel like the Knicks are going to luck up, which is crazy to me. They're going to get that Frank Boyd card, and I'm going to be pissed like I was with Porzingis, but I was wrong. The Knicks are the most unlucky franchise when it comes to ping pong balls and draft position. Oh, my God.

But I do feel like this year the Knicks will be lucky enough. And when I say lucky, I mean a top six pick. Right now they're projected to land around the 13th or something like that. I don't think we're getting top six. I see the Knicks getting a top six pick. Eight lucky. Shit.

Seven, because I've already looked at all the draft picks that I think I like and I want. A top seven pick. Ain't too bad. I like it. It's a good draft. No, it's great. It's great. There's five guards that could go.

Add Jason, whatever his name is, Tatum, that's six. And I ain't even get to another big man or European prospect. I'm at six. If the Knicks get a top seven pick, cool. They're going to force the draft pick that we don't know who it is, but we'll assume they'll take a guard. They're going to force the guard to play the triangle? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. The system is staying. While we're watching all the former Knicks not run it in the playoffs and be successful. Listen, man, they got to get rid of Phil Jackson. Word. And they got to get rid of Phil Jackson. Word. And they got to get rid of that system.

They got to. Phil Jackson has to. Either Phil has to go or let the coach coach his way. Stop putting your system in the coach's hands saying this is what you're going to run. Let the coach run what he wants to run. Or you go coach. And, well, it seems like he's moving closer to that. He's not going to do that.

Well, he is doing it, really. He's definitely coaching. He's doing it. Well, of course. He's always putting Darren Fisher to be the representative to travel with the team. Phil Jackson's not traveling with a team for that many games. Phil Jackson is still trying to force Kurt Rambis on us. Yes.

Honestly. Phil Jackson's a little off. So, listen, in a hypothetical world- He's trying to sell digital fucking albums in a- or pardon, he's trying to sell hard copy albums in a digital world. That triangle shit don't work now. It's a dub for that. Not only that, you got to have the right pieces for it.

If the Knicks luck up though and get the number one pick now and take Fultz or Ball or whoever they take, are you going to force the triangle on one of these superstar guards? He is. Yes, he is. And it's easier to force it on a rookie guard because this is his first year in the league. I'm going to try and get in touch with Dolan. Honestly. Charles Oakley tried that.

No. He tried for years to get in touch with Dolan. Honestly. Charles Oakley tried that. No. He tried for years to get in touch with him. Dolan wouldn't talk to him. Well, I just was next to Dolan at whatever game that was. That don't mean he's going to talk to you. Well, he may not talk to me. Oakley was close to Dolan, too. You saw what happened there.

Well, I'm a musician. Dolan's a musician. I'm going to go wherever Blue Magic is playing or whatever the name of his band is. I'm going to kick it with him Okay I mean listen It's not far fetched Phil Jackson is worse

Than fucking Isaiah Thomas And Isaiah is my man I really hope Isaiah Don't hear this Because that is my guy Isaiah yeah I fuck with Isaiah Isaiah fucks with the hood

Yeah Phil Jackson has to go I'm off of that I don't care Does a quick hot take Does LeVar Ball do what The Mannings did with Eli? Is he going to end up at the Lakers?

Are picks going to be traded based off of family? I hope not. I don't want him in the Lakers jersey. I'm not comparing the Balls to the Mannings. You don't want Ball?

I'm saying, does he end up? No. Who do you want? Either, if I'm going to go guard. Oh, you don't want a guard because the Lakers have guards.

Yeah, we guard heavy. I don't understand why we would even be looking at a guard. But I take don't want to guard because the Lakers have guards. Yeah, we guard heavy. I don't understand why we would even be looking at a guard. Because your guard's a snitch, nigga. That's why. Your guard gives it up, tells they ain't doing all the locker room business. That's why. That's why Melo's never going to the Lakers. That is true.

Because they got a snitch on that team. Where's Melo going? Where could he go? He's going to the Clippers. I told you that. What are we getting back? I don't know. Draft picks or somebody.

They don't have no draft picks. Somebody on the bench. Austin Rivers, maybe. That might be the Clippers. I told you that. What are we getting back? I don't know. Draft picks or somebody. They don't have no draft picks. Somebody on the bench. Austin Rivers, maybe. That might be the new guard. That's what they was trying to put together before the deadline. They was trying to put that together

before the trade deadline. Blake? I'm getting depressed. I don't want to talk about sports anymore. I'm just saying, bro. The Lakers are getting Paul George.

That's all I know. You heard it here first. You heard it here first You heard it here first More say every big free agent Is going to the fucking Lakers Paul George said he wants to go to the Lakers Every athlete said they want to go to the Lakers What that mean? But he didn't sign an extension

Meaning like I'm not I'm out of here I'm going to LA So brighter days are ahead Lakers fans He would do well in LA I mean

As a person Not as a basketball player Why not? No I'm saying He'd be good out there Oh He's got the personality To be in LA

Absolutely He has the game too I feel like since we punched in It sounds like an echo in here I don't know Nah Doesn't sound right Sounds great to me

Maybe it's my headphone I want to shout out LA Shout out LA Shout out to LA.A., man. Phenomenal project, L.A. Amazing. In the midst of Kendrick's project, I listen to L.A.'s just as much. I'm actually linking with L.A. this week in Atlanta.

Are you? L.A., if you want to perform at the pool party, I don't do performances at the pool party, but I really love your project. Or if you just want to stand by me while we play your music at the pool party, I'm down with that too. For a photo op. Oh no, he said he's definitely coming to the pool party. Black. Black is another one.

Black. A lot of black will be played at the pool party. Black, if you want to come by the pool party and stand by me while I play all your songs or while D-Nice does, I'm down with that too. Speaking of black, to Joe Budden fans, I was working very hard on getting a Black feature for Joe with beats

already sent over, but then Joe decided not to rap anymore. So you guys can kiss that goodbye. But I want them to know the effort was there, because I love Black. And I think a lot of the A-Rab beats were great for him. Well, that could probably still happen. I want to highlight Antonio Brown. These athletes is wild.

What's up with the athletes? You athletes must be brand new to Instagram. No. Maul told me the wildest story about Carmelo that we can't say on air, but I'm still bringing it up. Huh? Are we snitching? Mello's in enough heat, and I hope he does well on the Clippers.

The Clippers ain't winning with him. I don't believe so either. Are you a Clippers fan or a Lakers fan, Mo? No, I'm a Lakers fan. I like Chris Paul. But you like the Clippers. And I think Chris Paul gets a lot of slack for not getting out of the second round and all that other shit.

I don't think it's his fault, but, you know, people always throw stats out. He hasn't been out of there. How many times have the Clippers won 50 games before Chris Paul got there? None. They won 50 games every year since he's been there. How many times has the New Orleans been to the playoffs since Chris Paul left? Once. And it was swept in the first round. These are things people don't point out about Chris Paul. I just like Chris Paul because I think he still is the best pure point guard in the first round. These are things people don't point out about Chris Paul. I just like Chris Paul because I think he still is the best pure point guard in the game.

Let me ask you a question. Who's a better point guard right now, John Wall or Chris Paul? Right now? John Wall. All right. Just wanted to double check. Yeah, no, that's not even. John Wall's having a phenomenal season.

Yeah. I like John Wall a lot. I'm not biased to Chris Paul. I still think he's the best pure point guard in the game. Do you guys know what sleeper songs y'all are playing? You seem like you do because as the MacBook lights your face up, I know that you pull up your eyes. Well, I got my sleeper from Rory.

Oh, okay. So I have mine. Homegirl. Oh, okay, okay. Confidently Lost. I had picked something else because I thought she was doing L.A. I'll have mine. Homegirl. Oh, okay, okay. Confidently Lost. I had picked something else because I thought you was doing L.A. I'll do L.A. then. Yeah, I thought y'all was going to let y'all rock out with the L.A.

You have something more? Because I had something because I figured everyone was coming with an L.A. record. Yeah, y'all both want R&B. I'm going to go rap, Tim. I'll go rap. All right, I'll do L.A. then. Okay, so with that said, I'm going to play a young lady by the name of Sabrina Claudio. This song is called Confidently Lost.

It's hard. This is Rory's Barefoot playlist, too. I was kind of bodying that set whatever day that was. Friday at your group. You were. You should have recorded it. She sounds like she's a very pretty girl. Yeah, she's attractive.

She has a crazy tone. This song is beautiful. Our whole project is really good. I don't need you to find me You don't define me I am confidently lost I don't need you to find me Cause I'm not hiding anything Anything Anything Made up of hope and meditation Love, imagination

Water my creations Baby, it's amazing All the days I'm facing Nothing seems to faze me Cause I am confident I'd have been came if this song is on during sex Cause I am confident in love I'd have been came if this song is on during sex. Are you kidding me?

Her voice, she's singing like I be telling sin not to talk in my ear. During sex. Yo, when a chick start using this tone close to your ear, it's over, dog. That's when you just start to got to think about plumbing, sewage. And I'm not cutting this song off because it's too beautiful. I'm going to fuck.

Oh, now it's a whole minute left, so we all going to cut off. Then y'all going to start thinking I do pay for play. But that was Sabrina Claudio. The name of the song is Confidently Lost. The name of the project is Confidently Lost. Whole project is phenomenal. Oh, yeah. Oh, I can't cut it off.

After this part, I'll cut it off. If I still rapped, I would try to sneak a verse on here. I would. Even though I can't even flow to this. I was just going to say, nigga, if you find a flow for this. I can't flow to this for nothing. Big Sean will come up And I'm back Big Sean find a flow

In any beat Alright Detroit thing Yeah Word All them Detroit niggas Can't flow right OD

I don't know where it comes from So there you have it Sabrina Claudio Let's give Rory the aux Even though I like to end with R&B, and I just know Maul's going to play some aggressive fucking hip-hop shit that fucks the entire mood up. No, no, no.

Oh, man. Oh, yeah. Because Maul only likes the hardest of hip-hop. That's not true. He never played soothing rap. I'm an R&B guy. You know that. That's my point.

I like R&B more than I like rap. I know. So when you start playing rap, you just start getting into your gutter. It's a balance, man. You got to keep a balance. Yeah, balance. I'm a leaver. Well, speaking of L.A., this is off his new project, Aura 2, the EP.

This is Slip and Fall with Eric Bellinger. This is the record. Fire. This is the record that accidentally gets her pregnant on purpose. And Quiet as Kept vibes off Eric Bellinger's last project featuring LA mm-hmm it's hard so nice tandem nice chemistry and blue should be longer It's the night time I come alive in the night time

Me too, L.A. I feel like it's the right time Oh yeah, it's the right time if I'm alive And it's night For real Genius Girl, I need ya I just want you close You know, it's ingenious. Aw, see?

You got him a girl that believes in him, too. I don't wanna let go Let you go, let you go I don't wanna let go Let you go, let you go I don't wanna let go It's a great song. I don't wanna let go I don't wanna let go I don't wanna let go I don't wanna let go I don't wanna let you go I don't wanna let you go

I lick it off I lay in my bed I'll definitely let you go. And leave. Wait, listen to this freaky nigga. I was like, hey, yo. R&B niggas always want to do some extra shit in the shower, nigga. Shower sex is mad overreacting. Yes. See? And they extra He wanna blow her back out

In a shower I'm trying to get my grips to my feet How you blow your arms back out in the shower I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet

I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet

I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet

I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet

I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm trying to get my grips to my feet I'm Imani is another one of the R&B niggas that feed into that. Bust her ass and blow her back out the first time out. Not I. You're getting average dick. This nigga is bodying the duet. They are killing this. Look, harmonies. Were they training this bitch in the studio?

Yeah. This was a train. There's something wrong with y'all. R&B niggas make a train sound extra sexy. Y'all niggas got issues. LA led the bitch to the bathroom where Bellinger was waiting in the shower. Y'all niggas is creepy.

That's a charge. There's something wrong with that. If two rappers do it, it's a charge and Reebok is pulling out of the contract. Yo, give me the aux cord, man, so we can get out of here.

I don't know what the fuck y'all talking about right now, man. What the fuck? Y'all have lost all the time. That nigga Ross started in the entire fuck. Ross started rapping about having a good time

at a pool party and lost a deal. You know the deals we would have lost if they knew what was happening in those red cups back at the compound? Anyway. Edit that out, Pat. Jesus Christ. What the fuck? I was going to play rap, but I guess I'll keep it.

Yeah, vibes, Maul. I'll play rap next week. Rory is definitely Rory Jules. Was that the name we came up with for you? I hope not. I hope not. Wait, were you talking about me when I wasn't there? Rory Jules.

I'm going to get in. This is Xavier. No, I called you Joe Jules. Not Joe Jules. Actually, this is one of LA's peoples. This is from the same camp. Wait, how much praise are we giving these guys here? No, this is his guy, Xavier Omar.

I played Xavier on here. You did? Love Xavier. Yeah, he's a friend of the show. Fake friend of mine. You know, people you run into. Did you play Blind Man? Is that the record you played?

No, I didn't. All right, so I'm going to play Blind Man by Xavier Omar. He just put out a really great record called Afraid last week that you should also check out. This is Xavier Omar play Blind Man by Xavier Omar. He just put out a really great record called Freed last week that you should also check out. This is Xavier Omar, Blind Man. I like those chords. Nah, he's nice. I'm just giving you how the brain hears music. I like him too Oh shit

Nah he's Nah he's good for real I can't love you with my eyes closed I don't lose sight of your beauty Cause your heart is fine gold baby Ryguy would love this I'ma take my time with your mind Your hand goes Wait a minute The hardest fine gold, baby Ryguy would love this. I'ma take my time with your mind Your hand will show me

Wait a minute! You love her on an R&B song with a wait a minute. I'm the only one that thinks that's a hard ad-lib. I don't care about your heart like I do Girl, I'm down for you Just the way that you're down for me Body like a queen, but it ain't about your body, baby It's about your being

I ain't rollin' up, but I'm on a high When you really think about it, ain't no wonder why I'm so down for you I'm so down for you, babe So down, I'm so down I see you from the inside I'm so down for you I'm so down for you, babe So down inside I'm so down for you I'm so down for you, babe

So down, I'm saying I see you, baby Could forget you, girl You're so beautiful Girl, I'm blind, make her love you Hey! Woo! Yeah!

Woo! Yeah! You're so beautiful Girl, I'm blind, make her love you Woo! Yeah! Woo! This is a very shallow song, by the way. A blind man could love you. See how beautiful that is? No, I think that's the opposite of shallow. You don't need to see it.

That means that he's normally very superficial. It's not shallow. If you're saying a blind man can love you, you're saying you got some other cool qualities that I don't normally rock with. I just normally look at your looks. That's not what he said. That is exactly what that's saying. He is not saying you have other cool qualities that I don't normally rock with.

He started the song saying I could love you with my eyes closed. Yeah. That's how beautiful you are. It's not what he's singing. What do you mean? saying I could love you with my eyes closed. Yeah. Her great, how she makes him feel. It's not what he's singing. Too mean. What do I, it's always, what do I mean?

You're right, all right. That's Xavier Omar Blindman. I still love it, but shit, keep it a buck. Xavier, I know you listen to the podcast.

We're working on Austin's project, so hit me back so we can do that. Oh, now this guy's getting a, oh, we have sold out completely.

For the bag. This is a mutual bag. I'm trying to get Xavier on this shit. This guy is A&Ring Austin's project. Oh, I'm putting my foot in the ass in that project. Cross-marketing. We doing all of that. For the bag.

All right, man. The Joe Budden podcast title, we will be back. We might as well. Y'all keep asking for a sleeper playlist. I'm making Austin's Project the original version of my sleeper playlist. I'm putting my foot

in the ass of Austin's Project right now. Y'all in trouble now, listeners. Rory's thinking of bright ideas. That's why they're in trouble. Rory's trying to forward the culture,

so we got some problems now. Rory trying, you trying, Jesus Christ. Yo, I got, and now. Rory trying, you trying, Jesus Christ. Yo, I got, and we gonna end with this, but listening back

to last week's podcast, I got mad when you told me that I've took the food, taken the culture back so many steps. You took it back

so many years. Yeah. Because I really think I'm doing positive shit. Now, yeah. You got catching up to do. Shout out to Angel Diaz.

Welcome to the party. Yeah, you in debt. You're getting your way up there. You're almost breaking to do. Welcome to the party. Yeah, you in debt. You're getting your way up there. You're almost breaking. You're almost out the red. Look, even in closing, Maul got to close his affiliates welcome to the party. I'm so done with you. Oh my god. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. What?