The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 109 | "Pause"

Episode Date: April 26, 2017

Episode 109, the guys discuss Chance's anti-label artwork, Kendrick's numbers, Nike vs Adidas, Summer Jam lineup, and more! Sleeper Songs Of The Week: Joe: Ré Lxuise "DM Me" EP | https://soundcloud.com/relxuise/sets/dm-me-ep Rory: Kyle Dion "Hold On To Me" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRjSboHFODI Mal: Brent Faiyaz "Poison" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giNRG6ttw80

Hey Really miss my nigga That's right White people you can sing it to just Come on Rory Miss my wigger This shit is hard Just say I

Really miss my wigger What's wrong with you? Honestly Back to the song? That wasn't the song? Back to the song Back to the song? That wasn't the song? Back to the song Hold up, there's bars My nigga said yeah And I said no, no, no, no, no, no

No, nigga Go, go, go, go, go, go Reached out to his ghost in slow mo I reached out to his ghost in slow mo Is. I reached out to his ghost in slow-mo. Is this not some of the greatest audio ever recorded? That is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. You hating. Pat, you engineered that?

So, wait. So, nobody missed their niggas? Yes, I missed my niggas, but God damn. Come on, man. Forget it then, man. Mic check. One, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two.

I will psych your mind. That was crazy. I actually forgot we renamed the podcast. I was going with it. How can I forget with all these Nimrods in my mentions reminding me? This is the Joe Budden Podcast, formerly known as I'll name this podcast later. Episode number what? 109.

One-oh-nine. Fuck. Nobody. Episode the bag. Joe Budden Podcast, formerly known as I'll Name This Podcast Later, episode number what? 109. 109. Oh, fuck. Nobody. Episode The Bag. Y'all stop, because y'all have had people saying that stupid shit all week. Why is that stupid? Why is the podcast not called For The Bag? Because why would it be?

You know, that's stupid. Yeah, the bag would shrink. The bag would shrink. There'd be no bag. The bag would just disappear. Episode 109, the Joe Budden podcast, across from me is Rory Lanes. To his left is Maul. And Chris is here.

Hey, Chris. Shout out to Pat, our trusty engineer, and we are rocking. How is everybody feeling? Wonderful, even despite the weather. Mask off. Fuck it, mask off. We know, we got it, bro.

Mask off. What is the mask exactly, and why does he have it off? I don't know, but that shit's good. I don't know, but I want a mask. You want a mask? I want a mask for the bag. I need a bag and a mask. Why?

So I can take the mask off. What are you on? What vices are you on? I need a bag and a mask. Why? So I can take the mask off. What are you on? What vices are you on? I need to know what version of Maul I'm getting this episode. I'm chilling, man. There's a lot to discuss. Is it? I feel like there's always a lot to discuss when it comes to you, though.

I feel like there's always some shit we can discuss when it comes to Joe Budden. He's been pissing a lot of people off this past week. Complex is going to walk you right into a hell of right hooks. And I know I'm going to be with you. I'm going to be with you when it happens, and I'm going to have to get into some shit. Like, I just know this is going to happen. And then I'm fucking everybody at Complex up. Like, yo, this is y'all fault.

You know what I'm saying? Now, why do you say that? Because you out here just starting shit, man. I ain't going to say starting shit. Is that what you think? And I want you to use your words carefully. I'm trying. And you're forwarding of the culture.

By starting shit. Oh, so you're mocking me now. No, I'm just saying. Because this is what you said you're doing at Convicts. All right, I'm listening. So, and you forwarding the culture. You're ruffling some feathers out there. You know what I mean?

Good. I don't know if that's good though It is though Is it? Why, how's it not? How would it not be? Because I feel like you could forward the culture Without ruffling feathers a little bit

No, no, no How? Every artist is sensitive Every artist is sensitive Right Which means you know that going into it I've had an entire career of ruffling feathers In a fashion that I thought was pretty malmannered

Even in all of my beefs feathers in a fashion that I thought was pretty mal-mannered, even in all of my beefs. Well, you know that because you've been with me as most of my beefs have started, so you know that I was on my end thinking that anything was good and I ain't do nothing wrong. Yeah, but you know rappers and artists are sensitive, though. That's great. I'm going to speak for the artists, and I'm going to inform fans on my show. No, I think that's dope.

That part is dope. I just think that in that, somewhere in that. Who's sevens am I ruffling? Yachty today was really upset. Not the suits. Some of the suits, I'm sure, are ruffling. I don't give a fuck about a suit. I'm not saying you do.

I'm just saying you have to understand that. I don't give two fucks about a suit. Who else is mad? I just said Lil Yachty Lil Yachty got the shotty to your body Don't resist Or you might miss Christmas What's the rest?

That's my favorite Guns I make number ones Alright, alright, alright Don't try to play me, nigga That was on Broccoli? That verse? No, I don't think so, bro

Oh, that wasn't Lil Yachty Do y'all want to start with Chance? Because I don't think so bro Oh that wasn't Lil Yachty I'm sorry Do y'all want to start With Chance Cause I think this is big About dissing all the labels? He's ruffling some feathers too You always so against Ruffling feathers I'm not against it

You're supposed to be From the Bronx I'm not against it I'm calling it what it is He's ruffling feathers I'm just calling it what it is I'm not against it I'm not against you Ruffling feathers I'm just letting you know That you's ruffling feathers. I'm just calling it what it is. I'm not against it. I'm not against you ruffling feathers.

I'm just letting you know that you are ruffling feathers. Do you think feathers don't need to be ruffled? Not that they don't need to. What do you think? Give me your stance on what Chance did at the first stop in his tour with all the labels. I thought it was creative. I thought it was, you know. with all the labels.

I thought it was creative. I thought it was, you know. For those that don't know, he remixed the logos of famous labels like Def Jam and said don't sign instead of the Def Jam and shit like that. He just remixed them to make it look like you shouldn't be part of them. Yeah.

For those that don't know. To me, that's like a cool way of like ruffling feathers. Shit. Yo. Running up and down the complex hallways is not No I'm always so intrigued by Maul's perspective I don't know why

You don't think that that was a dope way of ruffling feathers? It's a cooler and more subliminal way Than screaming Performing your hit which is talking about not signing And then your background being all the labels It's doper It's just a cool way Yeah it's a cooler way of ruffling feathers

That's my Your way of ruffling feathers. That's my, your way of ruffling feathers is fuck you, nigga. Which is also cool. I don't want to talk about me right this second. I have to talk about you. You're talking about ruffling feathers. You're a king of ruffle. You're a ruffle king.

On a side note. You are Joe Ruffle. Do you know somebody called me the other day, and that person shall remain nameless since I'm ruffling feathers. Somebody called me the other day, and that person's shall remain name was, since I'm ruffling feathers, that somebody called me the other day. And said what? And said, yo, did you get a phone call because some niggas want to do something to you? Mm-hmm. Man, if y''t get this thing on. Damn. I hung up that phone so fast, I was disgusted at the times.

I said, is that what's happening? Are we warning people before you attack them? Yeah. If you don't get the fuck out of here with a warning, my nigga, see me if there's an issue with me. It's so you can record the conversation and put it on Instagram and then call you pussy. Now, I just thought that was cute at times. Some niggas want to see you. Then why are you telling me about it?

Get off my fucking phone. So they can screenshot it and put it on Instagram. Tell them to see me then. What was I talking about? Chance. Chance. All right. So y'all have a real.

Is that all the analysis y'all have a real Is that Is that all the analysis Y'all have on this Cause I'm about to go ham On this one Whose feathers Whose feathers is it Ruffling that matters In his life

Like I don't see how This gives him any flack He's not Living and dying by them Even though you think he is He's not Well I wanna get into that too Cause this may have changed

Some of my position Okay On him But y'all are done here that's as far as it goes but but they're just cool and bold

alright but it's not something I mean that whole record is about that I don't care about the record I don't care about the record I don't care about that okay

I'm I have delved way too deep into this one I can see you ready for it? There's not much more.

Well, I mean, y'all already know where I stand because this is where I stand. I mean, this is not a shock to anybody. So where I stand and how I feel about this, y'all already know, and we have discussed this. This is what I'm saying. Okay, follow me, podcast people, because this is where I get really nuts. Oh, they know that. I want to say that Maul was with me in my Escalade, making that right on River Road in 2000 and whatever year it was.

And there were rumblings of who Drake was going to sign to, right? And it was announced. When it was was announced I think that's around when it was announced and I was really disappointed and I said damn it if he would have stayed independent it shifts it changes the entire everything right all right so that never happened water under the bridge that's fine cool um so now i keep saying i keep talking about the the landscape of hip-hop and where it will be in 2025 because though that sounds like it's a far a long time from now seven eight years ago was 2010 and in eight years that ain't that ain't much time. So we right there. In hip-hop, I think one year is five years in the regular world.

That's what I'm saying. I mean, come on. Eight years is a long fucking time in hip-hop to me. So now in business, looking at the trajectory of who should be where in 2025, I've been saying that I think Chance is being put in position to be number one The only number one in 2025 That's a long time I would say sooner if anything

This is hip hop No, I'm saying at the top of the top of the mountain, maybe maybe sooner. OK, so let me change. Let me rephrase what I'm saying. Even even if what you're saying is correct and he's at the top sooner because you're absolutely correct. The ramifications of him being at the top, I think we will feel in 2025. Let me tell you what I mean. I think that we are witnessing hip hop have a seizure. me tell you what i mean i think that we are witnessing hip-hop have a seizure it's swallowing itself that was a bold fucking move y'all say that i am erratic in all of my years of saying fuck def jam fuck the labels fuck whoever right didn't matter because it's me.

My voice is only but so loud. Now you have a totally different monster. Now you have someone who's arguably already number one. Well, on pace to be. On pace to be. In 2016, you could make a great argument he was number one. Yeah, he had a great year. 2016, you could make a great argument he was number one. Right.

Yeah, he had a great year. So now you couple that with what I think but can't prove with his business dealings with Apple, whatever they are. Who cares if he's independent or not? That's to decide. But we know that he has some type of relationship with them. We can say he's shaping the way artists made now sign. Yes. Even if he's not independent, that's not what we're going to argue here. Yes, yes.

We don't care about that. He's shaping how artists are now going to put their music out. Yes, yes. So I was talking about, was that you? When we were talking about all the attributes that work in his favor, that how he's so much safer than Drake, which I thought I would never see. Yeah. Anyway, my point was for somebody to be number one,

and this is why I think everything that's happening in hip-hop is so interesting right now. In order for somebody to be number one, the number one has to move, right? For a long time, I couldn't envision a hip-hop that Drake did not have a stranglehold on number one. Enter now. Enter now.

Kendrick Lamar. He didn't just outsell Drake. He didn't just outsell Cole. He didn't just outsell people. He outsold people by a lot. I think that's important. With just hip-hop, might I add. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's 2017 hip-hop. Come on, Rory. He got some of those Barefoot records we love on there. Yeah, but it's not pop. He didn't risk himself. It's 2017 hip-hop. He didn't conform. That Rihanna record I love.

That is a great record. I kind of wish him and Drake weren't beefing because he would have been amazing with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is easily Kendrick's best bop on an album. Yeah, I'll give you that. Yeah, I thought so. Oh, but I'm off on a tangent. I don't want to talk about Kendrick right now.

Kendrick outsold people by a lot. Couple that with what I think Migos' trajectory is. Couple that with what I think Ray Schremer's trajectory is, just a few people's trajectory, they're going to be in the same ballpark. The vast difference in the competition is shrinking, I guess is what I'm saying.

So couple Chance's objective, and I'm long-winded here, with what I think Apple's objective is, and trust me, Apple wants to rid these fucking labels. All of them. All of them. All of them. Every last one of them. So when I see Chance do that, oh, shit, chess move to the center of the fucking board.

He is going full-fledged now at trying to recondition the people reprogram the people reprogram the minds of all of the artists to come after him he's encouraging people to not sign to these places he's showing people how you can have success without them yeah and I mean it was great timing too because of course you've had other people do the independent thing,

whether it be Joey Badass or Odd Future, etc., etc. But back to the safe thing, having someone at this spot with streaming moving in at this exact moment, Jimmy Iovine obviously showing interest in Apple, Lior going to YouTube. It's a lot of things. It's like the perfect storm at that moment,

and Chance caught it at the perfect moment. So I don't really see this changing at all but forward towards Apple. Me and Lior are scheduled to do lunch soon. I cannot wait to do lunch with Lior. Do you know that adult Joe Budden cannot wait to do lunch with Lior Cohen, who is the head of YouTube? He's up there. Now, nobody see God's sense of humor in any of this stuff? Is it only my brain?

All right. Anyway, off of that. He's sense of humor in where you guys are going to go. Like, where are you going to take him? The Brownstone Diner? who I spent my 20s with telling him the direction of the internet and its effect on music. Yeah. Is the head of YouTube.

Well, because he's a great businessman. I want him to text me and say, you're right. But that's beside the point. I just want to do lunch with him now and eat. Back to fucking This chance Drake Kendrick trifecta

I thought it was bold I think people are watching I think people are scared I think this Has Plays a large part In a lot that is coming That's what I think

I can see that I can see the change coming Well I mean Even with back to Lior And him Todd Moskowitz And Kevin doing That's what I think. I can see that. I can see the change coming. Well, I mean, even with back to Lior and him, Todd Moskowitz, and Kevin doing 300, while it wasn't completely independent, it had backing from Google financially, it still took all the major executives out of the Warner Brothers and the Universal and said, all right, we're going to try this thing on our own, which has Migos on it and a lot of the younger kids.

So slightly if you look at the top, top artists outside of that megastars like the Kanye's, et cetera, yeah, I would say everyone besides Kanye and Drake is really moving into that independent way. And while Kendrick is technically on Interscope, TDE has done its best to stay as independent as they possibly can. And they come off that way. Yeah. It appears that way.

I don't think Interscope has any control in their creative process at all. Much like Marshall always appeared with Shady Interscope. Yeah. Shady never, I mean, it never appeared like it was an Interscope movement. It always appeared like Shady was running the shots. Y'all going to do what we say because y'all know what we sell. Kendrick is in that same boat.

It helps to be best friends with Jimmy Iovine and Dre who are leading it. That definitely helps. When you have that type of relationship. It's a bag. Thank you, Maul. Relationships. That's all I have Thank you, Maul. Relationships. Relationships. Yeah.

That's all I have for that, by the way. Yeah, no, I want to know who books his tours, though. He must have, like, a bigger agent. Why? Chance. I mean, come on. Why do you say that? Unless his day-to-day manager is that good.

I don't understand. Who's putting these huge tours together? Because, no, we're used to always seeing independent artists, well, not independent artists, do much lower venues that a regular management

could do. When was the last time a completely independent artist did arenas as a tour? When has it ever happened? I'm saying. I'd like to know who's behind that.

Did it happen recently? Is Chance not doing arenas? Is Chance independent? You think Apple's booking is torrents? No, no, no, no, no. I don't know. I'm talking shit. I would say an agency would be doing that.

I'm torn now on how to feel about Chance. Honestly, if you want me to be perfectly transparent here, now I'm really torn. Now he totally has a total mindfuck. But that's why I think you're nuts because you talk about this independent shit your whole fucking career and then people like Tyler, Creator, and Chance do it, and you hate. Hate, of course, is not real hate, but you discredit them when they're doing exactly what you have been arguing about for 15 years. You got to hop on board, man.

Baby steps. If Apple makes you independent, baby steps for a little while. Let them put your music out. There is no universal. I'm just torn. You them put your music out. There is no universal. I'm just torn. You own your own music. Apple just puts it out. I'm torn because it appears, I'm torn because

Chance and Apple have the same objective. That's what makes it confusing for me. To sell records? No. To get rid of labels. Which you've also been trying to do

for 15 years. Right. Are you now a label man? Has Complex made you label man? Are you upset because of all

the relationships Complex has with Universal and Warner Brothers and Interscope? No, actually, that's why I like Complex because they don't

have to have these relationships with all these people. I get to go in there and do the fuck I want to do. But, all right, off of that, what else happened? I'm done because I don't want people to think that I'm psycho-obsessive about hip-hop, even though I am. Listen to 107 episodes of this. Right. What else was on our list?

You did the list for the first time. Coachella. Let's talk about Coachella for a second. I didn't even know there was a second weekend. Who was on the bill for the first time Coachella let's talk about Coachella for a second I didn't even know there was a second weekend who was on the bill for this people are so corny nowadays man with this Coachella shit oh yeah I challenge I challenge anybody to show me a picture of them at Coachella before Frank Ocean said I met her at Coachella anybody this is a story that will go I'm dead serious I'm dead serious I I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. I challenge anybody.

Send me a picture of you at Coachella before Frank Ocean said I met her at Coachella. People didn't even know what the fuck Coachella was before Frank said that. I had no clue what Coachella was about. No, a little bit before he said that, but it was around the time he said that. Listen, man, niggas jumped on that wave right after Frank said, the next summer, Coachella, all of a a sudden all these chicks and all these niggas is at coachella didn't he say he was going to see hove though did hove headlining at one point i don't care who headlined what i'm saying is oh yes he did general public like now all of a sudden everybody's going to coachella did he i don't know all right well what's wrong with that that's corny

well no what the fuck you mean what's wrong with that? That's corny What the fuck you mean What's wrong with it? That's corny nigga No more Just the people you hang out with I'm looking now They got It started with like

Rage Against the Machine And Jurassic 5 I'm not talking about I'm not talking about The artists performing I'm talking about the people That are just going Well yeah

Then Coachella started to cater more Cause they had to Cause rap was taking over They had to go more Towards there to keep Listen Coachella, they over-trendied. Y'all over-hipstered

Coachella. Y'all commercialized it. No, it started hipster. It's been hipster. It's now worldwide. That's what I'm saying. When you over-hipster it, you commercialize it. No, they're under-hipster hipstering it. What else? Art Basel. Art Basel. That's another one y'all totally fucked up.

When the hoes get a hold of something, man. South by used to be cool. Oh, South by is over with. Sorry. Art Basel was the funniest. Hate to be the one to tell you. South by. Sorry, dawg.

South by is like Grant's tomb now. Remember Grant's tomb? Sorry, Chill Moody. Like, it's just nasty, man. I hate when niggas get a hold of something, man. They just run it into the ground. I hate it. The fact that they thought it out, Art Basel was one of the funnier ones.

Southby, you kind of saw it coming once they got bigger acts. But Art Basel, y'all killed? Yeah, man. That's nuts. All of this is Yes Jules' fault. Somehow. Somehow, right? Somehow.

Oh, wait. Shout out to Ice. Wait, we didn't even talk about Yes Jules. Yo, Yes Jules is a legend. She, wait. Shout out to Ice. Wait, we didn't even talk about Yes Jew. Yo, Yes Jew's a legend. She got Ice the fuck out of here. Is Yes Jew selling vibes? I'm buying them, if so. Don't.

No comment, man. No comment. So, yo. Yo, y'all are so soft. I don't know what Yes Jew's are selling, but I know that shit I saw her, told my 15K for 15 minutes was wild. The coffee, to have coffee for 15K, that was crazy. Now, Yes Jules is a friend of the show.

Okay, absolutely. She's on this show. I was not here that week, let's make that clear. So anyone that wants to call me a culture vulture, I was not here. What else? Yes Jules and her artist, Shaq, who's from New Jersey, are both at Def Jam now. There was rumors that she was consulting for Def Jam, which I think she shot down with a tweet because then it wouldn't be more cool and lucrative. But is Shake at Def Jam now?

I have no idea. Def Jam has like four people over there. Either way, I want to learn how to sell vibes too honestly that's a fact and it was so ill at the end of it wait that's my point if you pay 15k you'll learn about the vibes for 15 minutes you're so ill that i think and i could be wrong jewel so if i'm wrong text me call me come to the show but if i'm the end of that shit said, and if you're lucky enough to be chosen, then if you pay us, you can enter. Yeah, get it off.

Get the bag. That's the bag. The bag. Jules is a bag hunter, man. Hey. She's a bag hunter. I don't know enough about Yes Jules. Jules is great.

I just know Twitter shits on her all the time. I can call Vlad a culture vulture because I know a lot about him and what he does. I don't really know shit about Yes Jules, but this shit, y'all retweet. It makes me laugh. She's a bag hunter, man. I don't give a fuck what she is. If you could sell a vibe, yo, you are the illest. Go get the bag.

I'm trying to tell you, niggas. She's selling vibes. That's crazy. There's mad vibes uptown I could sell. What else bag. I'm trying to tell you, niggas. She's selling vibes. That's crazy. There's mad vibes uptown I could sell. What else happened? I'm trying to get these shits off. Wait, can we buy the vibes from her and then double the price and resell them in New York? Get it off.

If you can. She's the connect for the vibes? She got them. Oh, we about to flood all of Fordham Road with the vibes. That's a fact. I like what Charlemagne is doing. What is Charlemagne doing? Well, he's got a book out.

Mm-hmm. I saw him on ESPN yesterday. I just like what he's doing. Okay. I like how he's evolving. Okay. I know that. I'm still waiting for the punch, but go ahead.

That was random, and it only comes up because I was thinking about Hot 97. They released the Summer Jam lineup so we should talk about that. Then I was thinking about mine and Ebro's little fake argument

on the timeline. I want to get into that too. And then that led me to the disparity between Ebro and Charlamagne who are very much alike.

Oh yeah. Well I mean they're very much alike. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I... They're very much alike. They'll never admit it, but that's why Ibro came in on that morning show to compete with Charlemagne. Because his personality

was similar to Charlemagne's and that seemed to be working. I know they'll never admit it, but it's pretty obvious. They're very much alike. They're not allowed to admit that. But I think... And I say that with good qualities, too.

I don't say that in a negative way at all. Yeah, yeah, me too. Me too, me too, say that yeah me too me too me too me too they're both great in what they do Charlemagne seems to be able to branch out better or more than Ebro seems to be allowed to is what I'm saying yeah I think Ebro is just he's not into or he's not interested in a lot of that. Or he's older. And I think he has a mind frame of a program director because that's what he was for a very long time. And I think Charlamagne being with Wendy Williams and doing a whole bunch of other shit his whole career, not just radio, he's just programmed to do that. Like I can branch out and do other things.

Okay, but now. Ebro is at heart a great program director, which he was for years. Y'all are right. Y'all are absolutely correct, to which I will reply with, now let me take it a step further. Most of the people that work at Power seem to branch off well. Mm-hmm. They have an eye heart to you.

Most of the people at Hot seem not to. What I'm trying to figure out is if there's like a... Some of them branch off to Power 105. Well, and there might be a reason for that. But I mean, I'm trying to figure out if maybe there's some type of reason that is just on the way that we don't know about.

I heart media. But whatever. Summer Jam lineup. Did I read your tweet incorrectly? Did you have some disdain for the festival stage no no no i loved i loved everybody that they had on the festival stage my my complaint will always be when hot tries to appear to be organic okay so people call me bitter people

call me angry and bitter about it and i turned turned to my girl and I said, yeah. Well, they're saying, me saying, Hot has all the New York acts on the festival stage. So when I chime in and say, that's great. I wish y'all would have done that 10 years ago. They get defensive immediately because I'm attacking, they feel I'm attacking them. Well, they're the most defensive radio station in the world. They're very sensitive.

They're very sensitive on that morning show sometimes, when it comes to me anyway, maybe because we know each other. Everyone. Well, I don't know, but, what was I just saying? They should have done this 10 years ago. So they attack me, thinking that I'm, I mean, they get defensive thinking I'm attacking them.

And then people just start calling me angry and bitter. But yes, I am angry and I am bitter because I was the guy at Hot 97 all of last decade saying, hey, pay attention to niggas online. Hey, y'all have New York talent here. Why don't y'all do it for us like they're doing in Atlanta? I was the person saying that. So when I'm looking now and I see y'all championing the New York Axe, you fucking right I'm happy. I'm a New Yorker at heart.

I'm a Knick fan still 20-plus years later. That has to end too. It's over. It's over. It's over. It's over. Was it everyday struggle when you were talking about Hot 97 and Power 105? Because I think a lot of the stuff you said on there, we've all said on this podcast very often that Hot was very late to the party on.

Yeah, I mean, it's okay. It's okay. And that's why the Breakfast Club, outside of them being great, did so well. And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm glad y'all came around. I'm glad y'all are doing what y'all do. I'm happy about all that shit. I just come off harsh with my delivery, I guess, sometimes.

But what do y'all think of the lineup? I saw people. I love it. I absolutely love the festival stage. The festival stage, I don't think it's up for debate. Everybody loves that. I'm talking about the main stage. Was Young and May not on there last year? On where? On the festival stage, I don't think it's up for debate. Everybody loves that. I'm talking about the main stage. Was Young M.A. not on there last year?

On where? On the festival stage last year. That could be the only reason where I would say they was late on. I mean, A Boogie now has Drowning as somewhat of a hit, even though I think A Boogie Drowning would be a smash record if it came out of any other city in this country. You said that before. I think New York fucked that record up, all of us,

not just the DJs and not just Hot 97 and Power 105. That's right, Rory. But Dave- Nail emoji. Hey, I rock with A Boogie Man. Nail emoji. A little bit of sass on him.

Eh, you know. Go ahead. I'm at you. Dave East, I mean, this past year was his year. I would have loved him- Dave East is where? On the festival stage He had a phenomenal year

A great album The festival stage Is a great stage There's nothing to talk about Your next guy Lil Yachty's on there What do you say about that? I understand

I understand Uh Dron P and B I'm being I'm facetious With all of my Yachty shit He's a kid He's not

It's not for me That's all You just mad he dissed you Me And reminded us Of the greatest Joe Budden Diss of all time with T-shirt and buttons by Lil B. Which is true. That is true. That shit is hard.

Yeah. Called you a nasty old man. Can you give us the fucking lineups, please? And the last one, Casanova, who has an amazing record now and is doing great for New York. So I'm all for it. That festival stage is dope. Shit, this will be the first year I'm getting there early? Yeah. I'm definitely going for that festival stage. That festival stage is dope Shit this will be the first year I'm getting there early Yeah

I'm definitely going for that Festival stage is dope Alright now to diss The main stage Now to diss The main stage I see Torey's on the main stage Are we dissing the main stage?

Is that a fact already? Nah I'm not I don't know who's on it yet Here's my thing about Summer Jam Besides the people Y'all told me I was on it Every time I go to Summer Jam

I have a blast No matter who the people are. It's always just a good show. But I'm here to just talk shit about the festival stage. I don't understand why Chris Brown is on the festival stage. I know that sounds nuts, but what was the last Chris Brown record? Why do we need to see him every single year at Summer Jam? I don't get it. And I love Chris Brown.

I just don't get why. Do we see Chris Brown every year at Summer Jam? Oh, my God. He's definitely been in four of the five last Summer Jams. Had to have been. I don't know if that's true, Rory. All right. Well, why is he on it this year?

He's on tour. For what? I mean, Chris Brown is just a little guy. What do you mean, for what? What is Rory saying? What was his last album? His last album? With royalty?

Yeah. He's touring for royalty right now? He's torn because he hasn't toured as a solo act the last brown has never toured for i said he hasn't toured as a solo act i mean recently he did that tour with trey and it was all types of malfunctions on that because of his legal problems so this is this is primarily a chris brown. This is his money for him to keep. I don't understand why Chris Brown. I don't understand that question, why is Chris Brown on tour. He's a radio hit-driven artist.

Pause. I'm always cool with seeing Chris Brown. Who is not? That's why I'm confused about Rory Stans. Out of all the artists that you could have paid, because Chris Brown gets a lot of money to perform because he comes with a whole show, not just himself and a mic. You could have put someone else on there for that. Who should they have put there is what I'm asking. Well, obviously Kendrick and Travis you couldn't have done because they'll probably be on tour. Yes.

See, so you eliminate them. Oh, Chance just went on his tour. You eliminate him. Oh, I could think of someone that wouldn't be Chris Brown, though. Tell me. I should be more prepared because I forgot Kendrick and Travis Hedges. Migos is on there. That was my only gripe until they...

Migos is there. Who's headlining? Migos? Migos. No, no, Chris Brown is headlining. I'm sorry. Chris Brown is headlining. Yeah, but for the last few years at Summer Jam, they've done headline by committee.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that don't even matter to me anymore. I still just don't get it. Chris Brown, the last album, when did Royalty come out? Two years ago? I know he's Chris Brown, but it's just odd to me that that's your headliner in 2017 for Summer Jam. Nah, you pushing it.

I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at it. Listen, I look at it like this. I would put Khaled or Migos over Chris Brown as a headliner in 2017 in a heartbeat. Rory, we're not arguing the headliners we just want to talk about all of the acts and

in totality alright I don't need Chris who else could they have added I don't the people that speak about being disappointed what are you shocked at

I'm not familiar with Charlie Black talking about D.O.U are you guys who's Charlie I don't know it's reggae shit oh okay the other one yeah which I like I think it's cool don't know. It's reggae shit.

Oh, okay. Him and the other one, yeah. Which I like. I think it's cool that they're putting in the reggae shit. Khaled is there. That's big. Khaled and Friends. That's big. Khaled and Friends in French Montana and Friends is great.

I just think they have the same friends. So I don't know how they're going to have to split that up. They're going to organize the friends. They're going to do it like how Nikki did it that year when she bought out, you know, Drake and Wayne. But Khaled and Friends is big. French and Friends is big. Both them niggas got a lot of friends.

And that's not necessarily true because French rose with Puff. Puff don't really fuck with that whole Khaled wave on record. Do we think Puff is going to be involved in the 20 years of B.I.G., though? I thought the same thing with the bad boy shit with French. But I was like, all right, well, they're going to save that for the big shit? Hot has some type of something planned. Well,

they always do. It's a plan. Yeah, I mean, they had Drake on the bill when Nicki was there already in mind. They just didn't announce it.

Tell me more about Classic Man. I'm saying that because I don't know how to pronounce his name. That was going to be my next one. Jadayna. Jadayna.

Jadayna. Off the Chris Brown shit, did he just drop the album or did not? Who? Jadayna. I think he did. I'm not sure. I think, and I or did not Who Jaden I think he did I'm not sure

I think And I'm not sure either But I think he did And And To his credit I've seen him Just by

Chance Perform At At least Four different events And he's an amazing Performer He's an amazing performer

And he has a lot of music Shit One time We went to la marina and the nigga was up there for 45 minutes i said oh shit look at classic man classic man got other joints and he ain't got a suit on oh shit look at classic man it's a wild thing to say in la marina yo joe is fucking stupid man i swear to god man oh shit look at classic jo Joe would be at La Marina

And Classic Man Is there that day Only Joe Only you Rory was with me It might have just been Joe and Jidenna Rory was with me

And when we went To see Michael Paul That's a lie Yeah exactly Exactly That wasn't Jidenna Rory and Jidenna Got the same bed

That wasn't Jidenna That was just They got the same No He got the same beard As That wasn't Jidenna. I was just talking about school. They got the same nose. No, he got the same beard as Joe. Fuck out of here. Nah. That's my beard or your beard? That's your beard.

Fam, that shit is... How about turn your brightness up on your laptop? That's your beard, nigga. That's your beard. Oh, whatever. Yeah. That was funny. I like Jidenna, though.

I like him a lot. I like him, lot I like him too Tory Lanez Totally get Well deserved To be up there Tory gonna try to jump off The top level

I was gonna say Tory's gonna jump off Something way too high Joey Badass is phenomenal Tory's gonna kill that Tory's gonna kill that Joey Badass is an Amazing performer as well

He's gonna kill that Trey Trey I like Trey. Trey. I like Trey's album, and I think it'll do well. Trey is one of those people who probably have a very underrated discography. You'll be surprised. Yeah. I think so.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I think Trey could give me 20 minutes of hits. Yo. Wait. Hold on. All right. In the context. Wait, hold on. All right. In the context.

Yo, hold on, hold on. In the context. Hold on. I got on that one. That was fucking insane. Don't ever, ever say no shit like that. I'm going to own that one. And I don't even play the pause game like that, but that was fucking crazy.

Trey can give me 20 minutes of it Joe that's nuts everyone settle down bro you my nigga but that was crazy I'm gonna chill out but that was wild 20 minutes of hit records

everyone settle down you can't even clean that up only because of his cadence. Yeah. When he said it. 20 minutes of it. I didn't even say it like that. I don't matter.

That was funny, man. Oh, man. That's wild. But to your point, Rory. To your straight point. Right. 20 minutes of songs. I do think that.

I think he could sing at a performance. Oh, man. I was funny. If Trey get up I do think At a performance Oh man I was If Trey get up there Let me tell you something What was his start record I Can't Help But Wait Yeah

And what followed that I Don't Wanna Leave If You Gotta Leave I Don't Wanna Go If Trey get up there And start from back then Trey got songs That you forget about

And then when it comes on You're like oh shit That was my shit So I think that Summer Jam He could steal a couple From Fab too that you forget about and then when it comes on you're like, oh shit, that was my shit. So I think that Summer Jam. He could steal a couple from Fab too that he had hooks on.

I mean, he definitely gonna bring people out. He could steal a lot of hooks as well. Why is Fab still dressed nice like this? I am so confused by this.

Fab, Fab is every day This nigga is an anomaly to me. Every day is Easter, man. an anomaly to me Every day is Easter man That takes a lot of energy I mean not really Because I think I don't care if he got a stylist

It still take energy No not even a stylist He's gained such a notoriety For just being fly It's like You can't not do it Yeah it's like It's second nature

Man You can't just say fuck that No but even that His fuck that days Is fly days though It does take energy though It does take a lot of energy Yeah

His little dress down days I have I have some gentlemen That I think Fab I know I probably Get killed for this But I think that

Sugar Jay could dress Really well Yeah Yeah I think Ocho Cinco Dresses really well Okay just trying to get as somebody who doesn't know how to dress I'm saying I look at people to see what yeah I think I've been fresh for about 20 years through every era of fab like every day his baby shower I saw a picture yesterday

he was getting on the tour bus I my eyes told me the colors didn't match, but the long guy looked at it. It just was the best outfit. Well, Fab dressed like the young kids and don't look stupid. That's also a hard thing to do at his age. Because I've seen a lot of older artists dress down like the kids, and they look really stupid. Fab doesn't. This is what I'll say about Fab, and I can't say much about Fab,

because Fab is family for me. But Fab has never toured in his career. So to see him out there with Chris, I'm watching that. And that's an interesting dynamic because Chris is so hit-driven. Fab has never toured? Like I saw a clip.

Fab has never toured. Really? There was no Losos Way tour? I feel like Fab has toured I feel like after His first album I'm sure Def Jam Wouldn't be like

Nah you're fine You don't need to tour Find me the Fab tour I'm almost tired I can't find my tickets Across the country Just get in the bag Fab gets to the bag

I'm talking about tours When have you ever seen Fab even promote a tour? Ever Can't remember He just go get the bag. That's always been my thing with Fab. I'm like, damn, if this nigga would tour... He a bag hunter, man.

Yeah, but, so it's interesting to me. I saw a clip of him performing Breathe in front of these fans. Last night at Barclays? Was that there? Yeah, last night it was at the Barclays, I believe. If that was at the Barclays, then they should have went way more nuts for Breathe. Breathe is one of the fab best songs.

Sneaky, that's one of hip-hop's best songs. That's one of the best songs last decade. Yeah, I agree. Just did that beat too, right? Yes. So, speaking of Just, let me get into my Bink story. Oh, you don't want to talk about Designer? Because I was curious why he was on the main stage when he had a hit last year.

Rory got beef. You say I'm ruffling feathers. I'm just curious. You want to talk about it? Let's talk about it. All right, so I... All right, let's talk about it. I'll go to Summer Gym

just to see Desiigner perform Outlet. I don't even know what record that is. Outlet is the new record. The new one that they're putting Everything behind And it's sounding

Like something Is it good? I love it It sounds like He's on to something That's all I'll say But still Maul

That's how many records I can't say that Because I've seen him At South By Perform Panda 50 times in a row And it kept getting better That's when the record

Was at it's peak So that's also why. If that comes on at Summer Jam tomorrow it's going to be like Oh yeah. It'll do really well. I'm not taking away

from that record because it's a hit and it hits last. He's a performer though. You have to put him on a main stage. His energy requires that. Is he going to bring out

good music? He got people he can bring out. Where's Big Sean at? Well that was another one that I wanted to say. Thank you for bringing it up. That's what I forgot.

Sean should have definitely been on this. Sean, I think, has done touring and had a hit and an album just passed. So I was shocked that Sean wasn't on there over Chris Brown. That would have been a great place to disc Kendrick back. For real. Remember when Summer Jam used to unveil shit? Used to be surprises? Remember the good old days? Michael Jackson came when Summer Jam Used to unveil shit Used to be surprises Listen Remember the good old days

And Michael Jackson Came to Summer Jam That put some respect On fucking Summer Jam's name man On Hov name That wasn't Summer Jam That Summer Jam screen I don't think anyone's nervous

To get on that Summer Jam screen though Yeah social media Yeah 50 put me on that Fucking screen I was working for I-97 See that's how Complex gonna do you too Yo

I was working I-97 I was running I was running around To meet my mom somewhere I turned around I was on the screen Yeah

So what the fuck Who allowed this I'm in the pamphlet Yeah I'm in the pamphlet Y'all's how it happened I'm in the pamphlet Y'all hand it out Yeah, this got cleared? Stormed into HR

On Monday morning Oh man, I was tight But then that's when Smurfing them did that bullshit So then all was well Oh yeah, when it was fighting and shit Yeah, that kind of took away All that shit

Yeah, it took a little I don't know, I thought Throwing the chairs was kind of cool I thought it would add A nice aesthetic to the performance Well, whatever I figured Whatever I thought I was going to do,

Smurf and them probably had a tougher version of it to do. Joe was behind Smurf and them. That was my logic at the time. You might have threw one of them chairs. I got to go to that video and look closely. Look at the back.

Look at the chair all the way from the back that didn't make it far. Joseph clumsy-ass tripped on his way to throw it in. Word. I think that's it. Migos, of course. What do we think Faith is going to do for 20 years of Big? Just play records?

I'm disappointed in Faith about that whole Stevie J ordeal. That was super wild. I had to see that shit From my own eyes Cause I didn't believe Anyone when they said it I got some love In hip hop theories Cause I don't

I can't believe I don't know if y'all Up to date I don't know what's Going on on that screen Oh I stopped watching Yeah After the past two episodes

I'm cool As you should've So what were we talking about Before I just got off On that bullshit After that Fat Joe and Remy Ma I'm cool

Listen this is fine. I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with their lineup. I mean, given the circumstances, what else could they do? To anybody who has a problem with the lineup... Big Sean, the only one I can think. That's my only question.

Take out Chris, put Sean. I'm not taking Chris Brown out. I'm never taking Chris Brown out of anything. So listen, let me get to my Bink story really quickly. That he seemed to threaten me over Twitter over. On Twitter over. That was a tongue twister pause. Give people a backstory on who Bink is.

Because not everyone knows who Bink is. Bink is a producer. A phenomenal producer. An immensely talented producer. Let's be very, very, very clear. Bink is just hot. He's just hot. Google him.

His work will come up. He's one of the more talented producers. I can say that. We're on a grand scale, right? So quick, long story, not so long. Ross' album comes out. Bink is on it. And it's just amazing music.

So any rapper would say, I'm going to hit Bink. So I hit Bink, right? And this is my thing with Bink. Bink, we hadn't heard from Bink in a while, musically. I hadn't seen Bink in a while. And it's all on this podcast, so this stuff is documented. You can go back and check. Fuck, what was I just saying?

Bink. Okay, so we reach out to Bink. We reach out to Bink. We reach out to Bink. We reach out to Bink. Bink lets me know that i have an outstanding debt with him my memory is bad so that was news to me so i said refresh my memory he reminded me of a song called for you that uh was me and royce and this was during those amalgam days. And this is when hip-hop was really like the wild, wild west.

So I wasn't even mixing records back then. So I think I asked Royce about the record. I don't know. The record ended up on one of my projects, and we put it out. But we didn't pay Bink. Not because we weren't trying to pay Bink, but just because the business was bad back then. Right? So bong. That's what happened. So Bink says you have an outstanding debt. Me, all these years later, being a mature adult, I say, let's fix it.

Let me. What is it? What is it for? Send me a number. Let me call you and let me send it to you immediately. Now, here's the caveat. Ten stacks. I don't think that that beat was worth ten stacks at all. Especially at that time. Nor was it worth that to that project. But I'm such a stand-up guy. And you're correct that I'm going to send that money to you, right?

Send him my number. I never hear from him. Or ask him for his number. He never sends it. Never sends it. Now I just keep seeing a bunch of passive aggressive just sub shit coming from Bink and I'm confused

about it I'm confused because I was hitting Bink to try to do music right so now ever since he did not reach out for me trying to pay him he keeps sending me messages like DM saying I knew you was a fake nigga all this type of shit I'm confused by it is my point.

Wait, what? Yeah, hold on. I'm sorry. He sent you a DM saying, I knew you was a fake nigga. After you said to send me the number. I hit bank. I said, yo, I had no knowledge of what you're saying. Send me your number.

Let's fix it. I'm a man of honor, and morality is important to me. And then after all of that he said i knew you was a fake nigga he never sent the number he never sent the number so then a few days later i said question mark question mark question mark uh i don't know he said some bullshit then i got i knew you was a fake nigga i knew you wasn't real i got a bunch of bullshit is what i'm telling you yeah i don't know after I got a bunch of bullshit is what I'm telling you. Yeah, I don't even try not to. After you asked for the number?

Yes, small is what I'm telling you. I don't understand. That's crazy. That is what I'm saying to you. Without me fucking exposing any more here, yeah, that's what I'm saying to you. So now that adds to my theory about Bink because Bink is so talented and he stays in his way. Bink, we haven't heard from, I think, because he out-businessed himself out of the game

in moments like this. That is what I think about Bink. Bink, you are more than welcome on this show. More than. More than, sir. The floor would be yours. But I think Bink out-businessed himself out of

a job, basically, as one of the elite producers in music. That's what I think. So when I heard him on Rush album, I'm thinking, okay, he's back. He with the shits. Of course I want to reach out to Bink. Bink is one of the most talented people in music. Unfortunately, some of the most talented people in music outsmart themselves right out of business and that's the end of my big story okay well I think I think Bink I could be wrong

here but from what I've heard he didn't sign the to be the in-house producer for Rockefeller when Kanye and just blaze did and it kind of blackballed him out of a lot of opportunities he could have gotten had he signed that in-house deal and I think maybe he thought why would he signed that in-house deal. And I think maybe he thought, why would I sign an in-house deal? I'm talented enough to work with everybody. I'm already working with Jay. But who knows? Is Ace Hood blackballed?

Is Ace Hood blackballed? I don't know enough about his situation. I would have to know more about him and Khaled's friendship now to know if he's blackballed. Because everyone in the world is Khaled's friend friend and he's intertwined with every last label. So if Khaled don't like you, yeah, you might be Black Ball. And y'all know how I feel about Ace Hood.

I think he's... He could rap his ass off. I'm on here saying it. But who doesn't Khaled like? That doesn't even sound right. It gotta be some business. Yeah, something is in the way. Gotta be.

It's definitely not the talent. I just wish somebody would tell us more. Well, do we think Khaled kind of brought him to a lot of those hits? Outside his talent as a rapper and a songmaker, because I think he could do that on his own. A lot of his hits did come from that Khaled. I think A's Hood is fully capable of going in the studio right now

and leaving with a hit. Of course he is. With or without DJ Khaled. Is he still on Def Jam? Was he on Def Jam? I have zero idea What he's doing I just know that

It's on my bucket list To rap with Ace Hicks That's your guy though I love Ace Hicks I'm pretty sure you can get that story I don't want to get it It seems like You know

It seems like one of those Like you say I ruffle feathers I don't do stuff like that To not ruffle feathers Well in 2012 You signed to Cash Money So that might have something to do with it I didn't do stuff like that To not ruffle feathers Well In 2012 He signed to Cash Money So that might have Something to do with it

I didn't know that Neither did I What the fuck Is that Post Bugatti Bugatti was I was in college

For Bugatti So yeah And what's his other hit Hood I feel like Hustle Hard Hustle Hard Big hit

He got another Slow one too I think with Chris Allen Body Oh and Welcome to My Hood Was his as well No that was Callen's

Oh okay I thought Ace was like I'm so hood He was the lead I love Ace Hood Ace Hood is nice Do y'all want to talk about The MTV people

Wanting Internet trolls To meet up With each other? Because I think we just saw that with the Troy Ave situation and Tack Stone. That was the black people version. So now MTV wants to come and think they'll make a great show out of this? I think if it was on HBO and it was controlled in a boxing ring, it'd be phenomenal.

That would be my TV show. If they produce this show, we're going to watch it, right? Absolutely. Of course. Oh, my God. Why? Why wouldn't we? Because I think everyone in the world deals with Twitter trolls and think,

hey, if I could just meet this person, maybe they wouldn't be saying these fucking things. No, because they're going to do it the ultra-white way. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's why I said they're going to go talk about their feelings. It's not like this show is on Vice. Yes. It's going to be. What's the two dudes on Catfish?

What's their name? Who knows their name? Neve. Neve, there you go. Oh, my God. Judging Maul for knowing their name. That's my guy, Neve. What type of Bronx nigga are you?

That's my guy, Neve. That's my guy, Neve. Is Maul really from the Bronx? Honestly. Because I know Neve's name? Stop saying it. That's his name. I don't care.

I'm just telling you his name, bro. Why the fuck do I want to hear Neve? Neve is not a friend of the show. He's a friend of the show. That's his name. I don't care. Tell him his name, bro. I don't want to hear Neve. Neve is not a friend of the show. He's a friend of the show. You don't get to call the friend of the show. That's my guy. I think that's a bad idea. I think those two gentlemen are way too nice to have anyone fight. Even though they

did snatch that phone out of a dude's hand and throw it in the river. That was pretty funny. Neve. Neve gonna fuck Joe up on that. That's pretty funny. Neve. Neve going to fuck Joe up on that international show, too. Listen, all right. Quick, abrupt sidebar and segue. Y'all called me crazy, especially them all,

and I'm bringing it back up because I keep seeing Nike sneakers being produced that look like Adidas. No. Because Adidas was producing a lot of shoes. That's how they got back in this. Granted, I like a lot of stuff that's coming out of Adidas. Would you like me to find a picture of a Nike shoe that looks like an Adidas was producing A lot of shoes That's how they got back In this Granted I like a lot of stuff

That's coming out of Adidas Would you like me to find A picture of a Nike shoe That looks like an Adidas Their whole little A new one Their whole little boost wave That brought Adidas back

Is a fucking rip of Nike Yeah What are you talking about It's the other way around bro They've been killing They've been killing with the tech That's how Adidas That's how Adidas

Got back in the game What are you talking about They jacked the whole Like the The The Presto Like the Yeah

And the Roshi And all that shit They took all of that Are y'all serious right now? Deadly serious They just had the ultra boost technology Wait time out Are y'all serious?

Yes The boost is ripped from Nike Even their Even their Even their lifestyle They do the tech They do the tech sweatshirt shit now The tech sweatshirt

Like Adidas does that now. They're doing very well at it. I see the Nike shoes. Show the camera for our YouTube people. Let me show them all. Okay. Those are dope. There you go, YouTube.

Those are dope. Those listening, you'll just have to tune into YouTube as well. Y'all are still going to defend this. Well, one shoe instead of a whole line. No, they got a whole line of shoes like this. But what I'm telling you is. Oh, come on, Maul. No, listen.

Adidas had the Ultra Boost. Oh, my fucking God. They got the Ultra Boost technology, right? They had the Ultra Boost phone. Yo, what Bronx nigga has ever used the word technology? Technology? Damn. That's how you know Maul is wrong.

You can't kill my burro like that. Don't do that. Maul is mad, bro. Finish telling me about the newer technology. I'm telling you what it is. That's what got Adidas back in the game. That's what got them back in the game. Needs actually introduced the technology.

Yeah. It was Needs. Y'all are saying that the Presto is comparable to the fucking Ultra Boost? No, what I'm saying is Adidas had to— Because it's the same technology? No, Adidas had to introduce that technology to put a dent in that market. Nike was running— I don't want to use words like technology.

The Ultra Boost is kicking their ass. That one fucking sneaker that's not to mention the Yeezy, that's not to mention the NMD. I think that when they look at projections, not now, I'm not that ignorant. No, but nobody's arguing that Adidas is killing right now. They're doing very well. No, that's not

my point, though. What is your point? Because, of course, you can't argue that. There are numbers that support that. I'm saying, I'm seeing a change in how I have seen Nike present itself. This is one of those changes. That's a Nike shoe. I see that shoe and think Nike without the check. So show me any Nike sneaker with that ankle. Show me any of them.

All their cleats. Show me. All their cleats that they put out have that. That's a Nike thing. That's not an Adidas thing. You talking about with the cloth? Yes. Come on. Roy is have that. That's a Nike thing. That's not an Adidas thing. You talking about with the cloth? Yes. Come on, Rory.

That's a flip. Come on, bro. I'm talking about the ankle. You're just not in the know. The ankle. Yeah. Yes, that's a Nike thing. All their cleats.

You're telling me about cleats. I'm talking about a... All right, great. You made it a hot line. I made it a hot song. I don't care about what they did with cleats. Now you're changing your argument. I don't care what they did about cleats, Rory.

I'm telling you that Adidas has taken something. Nike did that with their shoes, too, just not the shoes you were wearing. So show me a sneaker. That's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking. Show me any Nike sneaker that's not a cleat

that is this style. I'm not pretending to be... You have one in your hand. What are you talking about? That's a Nike shoe. This is a new sneaker. That's my point. That's not the first sneaker

they've had like that. Yeah, that's not the first one. So show me an old one before the Ultra Boost that has this Adidas ankle. That's a Nike ankle, bro. This is an Adidas ankle, man. I don't care what y'all say.

I don't care what y'all say. Neither do we. No idea is original. This is jacking at its finest. If we're going to talk about jacking, then Adidas is the king of jacking right now. Oh, wait. I'm not waving my Adidas flag. It seemed like it.

But Nike has had a fucking stranglehold on the game for so long. And much like, who was that that let Mike go and he ended up signing over there? It was Adidas, right? Mike who? Was that LeBron? LeBron. LeBron. Yeah, when he was in high school, he was doing all the Adidas shit. Adidas, right? Like Mike who? Was that LeBron? LeBron. LeBron. Yeah, when he was in high school, he was doing all the Adidas shit.

Adidas. So much like that, I think that Kanye is like that for Nike. Oh, yeah. And I think the boost introduced that shit, and the boost is a rip off the Roshi. So while y'all are telling me that the Ultra Boost revived Adidas, I'm crediting a lot of that to Kanye. Yeah, which he ripped from Orochi. So it's still Nike's bad for letting Kanye go. Yeah, I mean.

And I think they're regretting that, right? I think they said that. Obviously. And I think that we should see more companies and corporations allow rappers to be the front man and the spokesperson and the lead person for your brand in the same fashion as athletes. They're doing that. Nike was just so arrogant that they were saying, Kanye, you're not worth the headache.

We're well bigger than your brand will ever be. And Adidas was like, oh, fuck that. We'll take this in this rebrand. But I think if Adidas is doing what you had on on Everyday Struggle, Nike has nothing to worry about as far as fashion. You know, a lot of people killed that suit. A lot of people didn't. With the Adidas jacket?

But it was a suit. That collar was wild. That collar was probably the hardest thing on that thing. Was it Alexander Wang? Yeah. It was Alexander Wang was the whole suit. But I understand the people that said I looked crazy because you couldn't see the whole suit, really. And in the angle, you really couldn't see how fly the top was.

But that whole outfit, it's fly. It's fly. But I get it. So I'm not mad at any of the jokes. It was like the collar Joe Pesci had on in Goodfellas. That shit was the size of your chest. You had a made man collar on?

Damn, that's crazy, Joe. That collar was hard. Now y'all made me forget what I was about to say. I don't know if I want to get into the Knicks transgressions just yet. Transgressions. I will say, I know Boston wished they had Carmelo Anthony. That is very much true. Oh, come on, Maul.

Why? Maul. Because they're about to get out the first round as a one seed. Yeah. Come on, Maul. Come on, come on, come on, come on. And the tragedy of Isaiah Thomas' family. To face Cleveland tomorrow.

I mean, to face their Bulls. But no, they're going to beat the Bulls, though. Yeah. They're going to beat the Bulls. Without Rondo, the Bulls have no chance. What are you talking about? I love Maul. They have zero chance without Rondo.

They proved that the other night. I just want to let the viewership and the listeners know that I am definitely finding the audio from last week when Maul told me that series was over. The Celtics have no shot. No, but you said, no, no, no. You said that. And then you also said that the Bulls, you said that the Bulls would beat that Celtics team without Isaiah Thomas, and I told you you were crazy for thinking that. I said the Celtics would beat that team without Isaiah Thomas.

Yeah, and I told you you were crazy. I might have been crazy. I might have been crazy for that. No, no. Whatever. Let's get to French and this Lala story. We don't know if that's fake.

OVO reports that that whole shorty saying she's pregnant story is fake. I heard that too. Yeah. Good for Drake.

Good for Drake. Good for him. Bad for hip hop. That would have been great to watch. No, that would have been tragic, man. What?

That nutty, psycho looking chick running around with the baby of the best artists in the universe you don't think that would have been fun for the next 10 years with a single handedly killed hip-hop oh my god that would have been great oh my god i was looking forward to that no honestly i don't wish that on nobody yeah it's too close to home for just to watch a man have to go through that i yeah i wouldn't even wish that on my worst enemy but of French, why is French always with someone's ex like a week after they break up?

French is a sniper on the low. I'm not saying he's fucking any of these women, but he is with them a week after every breakup. Yeah. He leave the league in rebounds. He's clearly. He do. He be waiting for that shit to come off the last year. French ain't bullshit.

He watching the rotation on the ball. Okay. Dennis Rodman. Yeah. But I don't know if he's with Lala, though. I'm not going to pump that up. We can't pump that up yet. Well, that's why this is so great, because we never really know with any of them.

Yeah, that's a fact. Until we know. It's been French Sanaa. It's been French. Kardashian. What's the white girl's name? Kardashian. Not Khloe, but it wasn't the other one.

But what? Azalea. Oh, Iggy. Iggy. Oh, that's right. It was him and her. God. French is really awesome.

It's been quite a few of them. Yeah. He doing what he's supposed to do. What is he supposed to do? Line them up and knock them down. That's what you're supposed to do. Is that what you're supposed to do, What is he supposed to do? Line him up and knock him down. That's what you're supposed to do. Is that what you're supposed to do? Maybe he's offering them

comfort in their breakup. Maybe he's actually a really good listener. We don't know what French is. You know who French is. French is, he's, what's my guy's name

in Wedding Crashers, man? Neve. No, dickhead. Why do you know All these obscure names No No the actor

In Wedding Crashers Vince No Look The other one That no one knows Will Ferrell Will Ferrell

Oh You know when he was like Consoling the women At the funeral Just so he could hit That's who French is He consoles him At the breakup

Like damn That nigga was wild You know Yeah but he do it so fast That's how you gotta do it What you mean If I was Carmelo I would feel the way French's. He consoles him at the breakup. Like, damn, that nigga was wild, you know? Yeah, but he do it so fast. That's how you got to do it. If I was Carmelo, I would feel a way just about seeing that. I would judge my ex. I would judge your ex.

Okay. Maybe not today because I'm happily in love. But it's certain ex rules. No, it ain't. Yes, the fuck it is. No more rules, man. On paper, maybe. It's no more rules, man.

These women now are savages, man. They are savages. Elaborate, please. There are no rules, meaning as soon as y'all call it quits, a day or two later, they will be with another nigga. No. What do you mean, no? And they'll do it even if they're not fucking. Before, they wouldn't do it.

Now, they can show you. I'm not saying they're sleeping with him, but they're going to be out with the nigga. They could take a picture and put it everywhere for the whole world to see. Now, it's payback. It's payback. Yo, Maul is so jaded. I am. And so is Rory.

I don't know why Rory's jaded. A lot of my jadism, whatever. Is that a word? We're making it a word. A lot of my jadism is valid, though. Prove me wrong. He rolls his eyes at me. Prove me wrong. That's what I want to say. Prove me wrong. He rolls his eyes at me. Prove me wrong.

That's what I want to say. Prove me wrong. What's on your X rule? You don't want to get Joe started with his X rule. How much time we got, Pat? I definitely do. Pat, where we at? I definitely want to get him started.

We don't have a time problem because Joe doesn't have Xs, number one. You have a song called Xs. What are you talking about? That's not even about exes but my point is there should be some type of etiquette should being the key word should after after in the relationship and that's why it's right exactly we shouldn't cheat as men but ain't nothing better than pussy other than new pussy We know that No I don't live by that I don't know And I don't agree

With you men I hate when you get In a relationship I don't agree with you men I can't even have a conversation Say something to my nigga To say when he get in a relationship No I want you to get

In a fucking relationship It only been 20 years I tried it It's overrated I tried it I tried it A lot of music Has come out though

A lot of music Has come out Music comes out It's an album Coming out right now Frank Ocean Is dropping a lot of music has come out music comes out every album coming out right now frank ocean uh is dropping a lot of music i like the young thug record he has uh i forgot the name of it but i like it and that was the older record yeah another one came after that which is cool too i like i like music out every 10 minutes man thug kind of bodied that shit young thug has been on the street man i think i'm a young thug fan yeah i've been a young

not to think about it for me yeah i've been a Young Thug fan. Now to think about it for me. Yeah, I've been a Young Thug fan. Thug is kind of nice. Jeffrey did it. Yeah. Which record is he on, on More Life with Chains and Drake? Sacrifice. Yeah.

He cleaned both of them up. I hear a lot of people saying that. A lot of people feel like that. He killed that shit. A lot of people feel like that. I kind of like Drake's verse a lot on that record. A lot of people feel the way you feel. I like everyone's verse on there.

Everybody did a great job. That was a great record. But people, I think, are flocking to Thug's verse because it's audible. It just sounds good. I think the casual listener is not used to hearing him be audible. Yeah. Yeah. Just that motherfucker.

He killed that. Now that I'm playing it over in my head, he killed that. He did. Motherfucker said the word Sig doper than I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. Th that motherfucker. He killed that. Now that I'm playing it over in my head, he killed that. He did. Motherfucker said the word Sig doper than I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. Thug is nice. I get why Andre 3000 says that's his favorite rapper now. I never understood that before.

I'm starting to get it. I get it. Why is Adrian Peterson going to the Saints? Because they offered him the bag. No, they didn't. They gave him three mil. That's a bag. That's not a bag. You can beat your kids That's a bag. That's not a bag.

You can beat your kids. For one year? That's not a bag. Shit. At Adrian Peterson's age right now? Why is that not considered a bag? The greatest running back ever. At his age right now is what I'm saying.

His age my ass. You check his last season? Yeah, but I'm just saying right now. The numbers don't lie in sports anyway. Yeah, but I don't think Adrian Peterson is worth much. Maybe he likes gumbo. I don't care enough about it. Maul, give me the Knicks breakdown of Porzingis going to join Team Latvia

without getting consent from the Knicks. He don't really give a fuck. He's on some rogue shit right now. Yeah, he won't be back. Wait. Wait, what? He won't be back. He's not coming back to the Knicks?

He's staying in? Yeah, he's staying in the NBA. And there's nothing the Knicks can do about it. So good luck with it. You know what's going to be funny to watch? What? The Knicks get a top three pick. I don't think they're going to get a top three. I think I saved the percentage.

Or top four. Or top four. They're getting a number eight pick per usual. Nah. Y'all going to draft another former kid that we didn't hear about. Alright, so the chances I have the percentage the chances of a top three pick

are 18% for the Knicks. And for a chance of a seven through ten is 57.2%. I don't care about what the percentages say. Because you hate technology and that's the problem.

No, because I've been alive long enough to know that percentages mean nothing. I watched Cleveland get the fucking number one pick in back-to-back years. I watchedlando get the number one pick two out of three years yeah but the knicks it don't matter where they they're gonna fuck it up they can get we know that yeah they can get the number one pick and they're gonna somehow fuck that up all right

but just know if the knicks get the number one two or three pick be ready for a good summer in new york why you say that because boy the headlines in the media for the shit show that's about to ensue. Yeah. It's going to be a shit show. The Knicks are in trouble, man, for a lot of years. The Knicks are, oh, my God. I want to find James Dolan, man. I'm telling you.

No, find Phil Jackson. Why are you trying to find James Dolan? Find Phil. He's on a city bus right now in Manhattan somewhere. That nigga's in in what's that town his house is in out there in LA Laguna Beach

or some shit some nice sexy tranquil shit smoking a spliff 100% Laguna Beach bullshit triangle nonsense

alright let me see what else is going on do we care that Jesse Williams is leaving his wife for a better looking woman? Oh my God. Is that okay with your ex rules?

Are they just divorce? I don't have exes. You keep trying to get me trapped. It's not happening. I don't have exes. Hey baby, I love you. You could have ex rules. I don't have exes.

What do you mean? What does that mean? I don't have exes. It means I don't have exes. Okay. Is there recordings that we could find? Do we care that Jesse Williams...

Can we log on to YouTube? Our hero... I mean, what's wrong with that? What's wrong with breaking up with somebody and moving on? We have got to end this podcast. Why is divorce so sad? Two people want to be with each other. You fall in love, you fall out of love.

We should be happy for both of them. They want to be divorced. Marlon's to be divorced maul is crazy we have to hurry up you don't fall out of love because we're gonna say some shit that's gonna get us out ousted i'm just trying to like is it not possible to fall out of love i would not know because that's how in love i am see now that i've answered that i hate and you've never been in love So why do I want to talk about love With somebody who don't even know what love is I know what love is Define it Love is an emotion that you get, right? Like when you like

With Neve and technology Yeah, like when you feel like This is a story that will go down In the love and hip-hop history books Yeah, that's love But what is the truth? What is a lie? What is a lie?

And that's love, right there Thank you truth? What is a lie? What is a lie? And that's love right there. Thank you. In a nutshell. I appreciate that, Maul. I ain't ever been in love. We don't care that Bill O'Reilly started a podcast because Fox kicked him out. Fuck Bill O'Reilly. Fox is giving people a lot of money to leave there.

I don't care about Bill O'Reilly. He ain't going to do all right. All right, fine. We won't talk about Bill O'Reilly all right fine we won't talk about Bill O'Reilly here all right that's all I got I'm pretty much done anything else important happening in the universe TV wise anything going on no nothing to slam any movies out nah nothing popping no movies no I haven't seen I haven't been to the movie did oh here's a documentary that that that I recently are recently started watching called The 7-5. Have you gentlemen heard of it?

That is about the precinct in Brooklyn, right? Yes. I saw it before it went on Netflix. Oh, yeah, them niggas was wild. It's a little old, but now it's on Netflix for free. I rented the shit. Them niggas was wild. I think Showtime had it before.

I think that's why I saw it. That's a good doc. It's a great doc. It's a good doc. If you haven't seen it, watch it. Other than that, I'm at a loss as for what to watch as I'm playing fo before. That's a good doc. It's a great doc. It's a good doc. If you haven't seen it, watch it. Other than that, I'm at a loss as for what to watch

as I'm playing footsies with my girl going to bed too. So what do you want me to tell you? How's corporate life? We see you on YouTube. We want to know what's going on behind the scenes. Listen, listen, listen.

I'm trying to keep, I mean, keep that off of here. I mean, I'm trying to separate the entities. Hey, even though we're, I will say we are fast,

I ain't gonna say that because they already think we sell out. Yo, what was the flack we got about a damn name change? They hate it.

They fucking hate the name change, boy. I think they just was like, damn, that's what y'all came up with?

People hate change. People hate change, number one. Number two, of course, most of them know that I'm more creative to come up with, I'm creative enough to come up with something more creative than the Joe Budden show. So if it's called the Joe Budden show, it's a fucking reason. It's called the Joe Budden show, dickface.

What do you think, we didn't think about all of that? Jesus, man, just ride with us. Support us. It's free. It's free. Listen, we can name this show Blue Dog Shit Fall Out Kid for the bag. I don't give a fuck. All right, so closing on the bag because I'm trying to secure the bag, but Maul. I want all bags.

Maul is telling me that because I'm ruffling feathers, I'm not going to make it to the bag. So I told Maul, that's fine. As long as my friends live on to spread the good word and share my story as I'm called home, everything will be fine. And then Maul says to me, you don't want me to share your story. I'm the last guy you want to get up and share your story. The story of Joe Bud narrated by Maul is insane. Let me just tell you.

That might be the bag right there. Yeah. That's the bag. I got some shit. I've seen some shit. Is it a bad? I'm tuning in. No, no, no.

It's not about like real stories and what you've seen. What do you mean? I got to get real on your way out. If I'm not going to be real on your way out, when am I ever going to be real? I'm telling everything. Would you say dope stuff? Of course. See?

I always say dope stuff. I'm cool. I'm cool with that. As long as it's dope shit, I'm cool. Yeah. I'm cool. We got sleepers.

I have nothing more to say. Shout out to everyone. Joe loves everyone. Do you? You have a weird way of showing it. I don't give a fuck

about any of these people. See? Look how fast. I mean, I have no fucking corporate ties. I don't care what these people are talking about.

If the viewers and listeners remember last week, I said I was going to Atlanta for Henny Palooza and then Maul said, yo, that's wild because I'll be in Atlanta too

for the Wizards game. So naturally, when I land, I text my mans because I had some, we had a really, really nice house. We were all cooking. There was some hoes over there. So naturally I would never want my man to miss something like that. So I text more. I say, yo, with like three O's, not even one because I had the hoes.

When you have the hoes, you always add more O's to your yo when you're reaching out to your mans. That's a fact. More than three O's mean nigga, answer back right now. It's lit. And Maul was Snapchatting that he was at the game. And then what happened? I was not.

I didn't go to Atlanta. I went to D.C. I didn't go to Atlanta. So then who had your Snapchat? The what? Who was controlling your Snapchat? I don't have Snapchat, bro. Your Insta-Snap, Maul.

I had my phone. What are you talking about? I could have swore, bro. Your InstaSnap, Maul. I have my phone. What are you talking about? I could have swore I saw you InstaSnap. Hey, out here. Get the fuck out of here, man. I've never done no shit like that before.

Yo, Maul's the funniest nigga if you catch him on his InstaSnap. You have never seen me on InstaSnap saying, hey, I'm out here. Never not once in your life. Holding the shit just like this.

Get the fuck out. The point of view. I definitely saw them all on InstaSnap take pictures of tickets to the game. That's a little thottish. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. That was DC, though.

That wasn't DC. I don't give a fuck. Is it thottish or not? A J's. Are you male thottish? No. Am I male thottish? give a fuck. Is it thottish or not? A J's. Are you male thottish? No. Am I male thottish? Wait a minute.

Oh, my God. Is that the only thing that makes me a male thott? Wait one second, damn it. Oh, shit. Oh, uh, oops. Hold up. Technical difficulties. Yeah, see, look.

Technical difficulties. I thought you ain't know that word. Wait a minute, damn it. No, no, no, no, no. Because this is great. Uh-uh. This is great. What makes me melt up?

Is this a case of NDCs having his cake and eating it too? Because when he wasn't with Yandy, was he with Erica? Listen to this. If he wasn't in D.C., was he in Atlanta? Because if both women carried the term, the pregnancies would have some overlap. and carry the term. Yeah, nigga.

Pregnancies would have some overlap. So, if you are a longtime listener of this podcast, and I just thought of this because Maul is an Instagram male, male Instagram thot. Male Instagram thot, okay. Anybody that takes pictures

of the tickets to the game, you gotta accept it. So, big shot A. If you're a longtime listener of this show, you have heard me applaud the tickets to the game. You got to accept it. So, Big Sade. If you're a long-time listener of this show, you have heard me applaud Big Sade on this podcast. Big Sade? I don't know who that is.

I've been on this podcast for a long time, and I don't even know what you're talking about. Big motherfucking Sade. Now, I've learned a little more about Big Sade. Who is Big Sade? All right. As I tell this story, this is Big Shot A Mall.

You can pass that to Rory as I tell the story. But, so this girl, I learned about her. She's a rapper. No, she's not. It says rap artist under her name.

Mix tape dropping. Oh, that don't really count, though. I'm just, bro, listen, I'm just telling you what's going on. Cardi did make the IG. I have to hear Sade's song before I roll with that.

But listen to this. So I followed this woman, and I noticed that at 4 o'clock in the morning, her Insta lives are the best Insta lives ever because she just keeps it a buck. She's raw. She's honest. I remember you told us. She got jokes. I remember you.

All of that right and I am a fan of shit like that right give me my phone back okay but she's at it she's at it again I just want y'all to listen to big shot a good bitch shot a beat listen is this your sleeper pic? Hmm. Gucci man post more than these bitches. You post more pictures than Keisha posts. You post my goddamn five pictures a day. I ain't even really mad at Gucci because Gucci just got out. So he just trying to figure out what's, you know what I'm saying?

What's in. Oh, okay, this music in. Okay, rapping like this is in. Okay, we just got to cut this shit out and let the females do what the females do. I was on a trip with a nigga. The nigga asked me to take a picture of him. I'm ready to take the picture, right? I'm like, you know, holding it up about to take the picture.

I'm looking at this goofy ass nigga like, you really serious? Are you posing or everything? I'm fucking just like, y'all fucking getting out of hand now. We've been tolerating this fucking music. And now we got to tolerate the fucking Instagram model niggas now. And I'm not even competing with bitches no more. the fucking instagram model niggas now and i'm not even competing with bitches no more i'm competing with niggas nigga i gotta compete with my hair with these niggas my motherfucking manicure and pedicure with these niggas my motherfucking

brows be on fleet y'all niggas dying your hair you feel me you guys want fucking goddamn bleaching your skin as funny as that is, she's not lying. This is great. That's crazy. Man, boy, this is great. This is wonderful. In Maul's defense, though, everything she just said, I don't think. Maul's not bleaching his skin. I'm not doing none of that shit.

I don't post like that. I don't do any of that. I think Maul might take a picture of his sneakers on the hardwood when he's at the game. Well, time out. But that's as far as we'll take it. You say it's your birthmark but your skin's a little bleached that's my birthmark

what do you mean? I don't know it's my birthmark how do we know? I don't know I wasn't there when you was born okay

what the fuck does that mean? you could be bleached or your skin no dickhead fuck you mean fuck you mean fuck you mean what's your problem?

I forget it then Forget it Fuck you Bitch What's your problem? Forget it Forget it Who says forget it then? Alright

Alright sleepers Nah Maul gotta explain himself Why I wasn't in Atlanta Cause then he pollutes his brain Wait what? Why Maul wasn't in Atlanta? Yeah What do you mean's great Wait what? Why Maul wasn't in Atlanta? Yeah

What do you mean I gotta explain myself? Holy shit What was you doing instead? I was I don't know I was home I was talking shit

I was Oh shit Shout out to YG Who came out To Henny Palooza Which was great And did a phenomenal job I feel like YG

Is at every Henny Palooza He's never been The funniest shit was He's long overdue He's supposed to be He wasn't at the one in LA? No he's always Supposed to be there

For the one in LA And never does So it was great That we caught him in Atlanta And he did a phenomenal job Fuck I'll be dancing His ass off when he rap I don't know how

He does that shit Listen we ain't Talking about it last week I ain't respecting Nothing for Henny Palooza Until Drewski get touched The funniest shit was I did Nah nah last week. I ain't respecting nothing for Henny Palooza until Drewski get touched. The funniest she was.

I did a... Nah, nah, nah, nah. Let's get to that. Damn. Let's get to that. Where the fuck is Drewski out here taking your lane? Where's Neve when you need him? Never let a nigga ride your wave. Y'all finished or y'all done?

Listen, Roy. I ain't got no more time. You being the muscle for Henny Palooza. I addressed all of my Drewski discretions on the baller alert. Copping, please. Whoa. Sound like please. Please.

I didn't hear what you said. Copping, please. And for the listeners that didn't hear that you said Copying Please And for the listeners That didn't hear that That doesn't count It didn't come out yet Oh so you can say it again Our platform is too big

To address that bullshit So I did it on the Baller Alert podcast Get your shit off Rory No disrespect to The Baller Alerts podcast But I wasn't talking I'm not plugging that bullshit

On this podcast So people can talk about it more Plugging what? Exactly Shout out to Steph I saw you on there Oh we had a blast We killed too much Jameson

That's gonna be a funny podcast When it comes out It looked like you guys had fun I won't do it Cause you won't put it out Until like three months After you record I hate people that do shit like that

She said I might put it out on Friday I was like We did this shit last Friday Yeah Steph is crazy So listen Sleepers, right? We can do that. Music.

I'm going to go first because I'm going to play this song from this young woman. And after Maul and Rory play their Sleepers, I'm going to end the show with a song from her. Oh, this is payola for sure. No. Two records. from her oh this is payola for sure no unlike you and mall unlike y'all passion fuels me does that refuse you have a blast with that man passion huh he says passion he says okay i'm a passion fruit wait wait we can't no no. No. No, please, God. This shit is going up the rails.

No. No. Please, God, no. Please, God. All right, so listen, listen, listen. I had such a good Quentin Miller joke that went un-laughed in my group chat. You can't make a Quentin Miller joke. He has one leg.

Someone said, can you put down Quentin Miller's name on the list? And I said, well, he could write it down himself for me get it Ghost Rider nevermind I see why I got no laugh Jesus Christ Jesus Christ I fucking laughed

it's called sleeper pics not sleeper jokes for every Jesus Christ god damn it was supposed to be corny that is a bad it was supposed to be corny that's a corny corny joke

that was supposed to be corny underneath corny yeah that was like god damn it's supposed to be corny it's not joke. That was like underneath corny. That was like, yeah. It's supposed to be corny. It's not rock and roll. That's what makes it funny. So this young lady, I can't pronounce her name,

but I will tell you how it's spelled. R-E. Well, when she sent the check, she didn't say how to pronounce it. L-X-U-I-S-E. Re, I don't know, because I dropped out in the 10th grade. But. Just call her and ask her. This EP, I did get her information.

I'm sure you did. Because I was blown away by this EP. The name of the EP is DM Me. I don't know if that means that she actually wants anyone to DM her. More will. But, uh... She bugged out on this whole EP.

Hold up! She signed a bracelet to him? He did the OEP Where that producer? I think that sound is in O. The drop is in O. Oh yeah, that sounds a lot like Quentin Miller's producer. Not Quentin Miller, Bryson Tiller. This ain't even my favorite song on this beat. For a while, like a six-month trial, I caught a case for it. Baby, I'm amazed by him.

I even caught on to the web. I made a change. That's funny. For the better, made it better for you, man. And baby, I just want to know, are you still down? Unfortunately for you guys, my favorite part of this song is toward the end, so I'm letting it play. Now it really seems like I got payola. That song's dope. sounds like some trap song

oh yeah i'm beer foot on. I kick my uggs off. Rory's definitely kicking his jellies off. His jellies. You know, I haven't really liked today's podcast. Wait. I'm starting to realize jellies a nigga having no jellies that's funny though

I didn't realize today was fuck the glory day 100 episodes 109 episodes which is fucked up because I really tried I was trying to I'm turning the laptop volume down and playing from my phone alright so what's today I was trying to, I'm turning the laptop volume down and playing from my phone. All right.

So, what's today? It's definitely past my bedtime. Joe got a bedtime. What type of niggas I associate with? Grown ass niggas with bedtimes. This nigga here, man. Rory, what's your sleep about? So, I get the fuck out of here. I kind of just want to go home. Joe got a bedtime. Joeigger head, man. Rory, what's your sleep about? So I get the fuck out of here.

I kind of just want to go home. Joe got a bedtime. Joe got a fucking bedtime. Yeah, nigga. You don't have a bedtime? No, I don't, nigga. All right, so what time do you go to bed? Whenever I go to sleep.

Be like that in the fall. No rush to get to that full size. Got me fucked up. I'm kidding. Alright, come on. What are we doing? That's funny. I need the ox cord. First of all, don't full size shame. Don't y'all full size shame.

Everybody has had a full size. You were full size shaming. Alright, but I'm phony. I'm jumping back on the other side. Rory, you got the aux, right? No, you have it. Mm-mm. Oh.

Is Maul about to play some fucking hard hip-hop shit? Because I don't want to end with that. My shit is super slow, so. You said you're playing another song anyway. Oh, yeah, that's true, that's true, that's true, that's true. Yeah, you got to get the back end of the check. No, I want to know. The back end of the check. No, I want to know. The back end of the check. That's wild if Rory even know how payola goes.

You got to watch you, man. For real. Or just how business goes. But, you know, we know you in business. Anyways. Basically, that's Bing. This is Kyle Dio. Hold on to me.

Don't say that Trey 20 hits line Over this song Listen bro Can we just move on Yo can we record Next week's podcast No we definitely gonna We definitely gonna move on

But that was crazy I'm feeling very insecure About today's episode I just wanted to say that Man this sounds good Since you went away All I do now is sleep Sounds good. Oh, he killing Imani.

Heavy R&B nigga is against Imani in my brain. This sound like Imani if we pitch slowed him down Sound like I'm like fucking M Kelly Wait Imani man, why you trying to reinvent yourself? Don't get out of here, E. That is definitely Amani. Amani is now Kyle Dion. Amani knew shit hard.

Damn, he should have been making this shit like this. How he just keep the joke going? Yo, turn this shit off, man. I'm getting horny as hell. All right, now I think you're on. Get this fucking... Yo, get this nigga Out of my ear Pause Pause

What the fuck What the fuck Is going on in there That just beat my Fucking terrible Trey Songz comment Y'all are fucking crazy This shit is going

A whole nother way today Yo I might not even Post this episode Yo Y'all got another Two hours to re-record Holy moly

I'm saying Get What shit. Holy moly. I'm saying get... What you mean, holy moly? I'm not taking the rap. Forget this nigga out my ear. What you mean? His headphones. Oh shit, I put the headphones back on and guitars are playing.

I'm gonna text him. I'll try to clean it up. I ain't texting. I'm trying to clean it up. Fuck you, baby, when you come, come on Right now, now, right now Am I the last guy you loved? Are you somebody else? Am I the only one you still remember When you've given up on yourself Yeah, do you hear me? All right, come on, all this woman empowerment he's doing.

Listen, man. You've given up on yourself. I support you. I love you like nobody else. I will see you. The contracts that I had to play to open. Yeah, true. And there you have it, brand new from Imani's alter ego

Alright Kyle Dion Hold on to me Oh I got a bunch I like Kyle Dion I'm making all these jokes I got songs of his in my Kyle's great

Joe is an idiot man What I did now What I did Mom can't wait for me to get punched in my face again Wait what? What you talking about man? I can't wait for me to get punched in my face again. Wait, what? What you talking about, man? I can't wait for you to get punched again. Maul can't wait.

Maul one of them niggas that died to fucking tell you he told you so. I told you now, fucking go on in that complex. That's 100% what I'm going to say, too. 150%. I told you. Ain't going to be nothing to say, nigga. When I let that yap. Oh, boy. I told you. Ain't going to be nothing to say, nigga. When I let that yap. Oh, boy.

Here we go. Wait, so while Maul finds his sleeper, it's supposedly true that Aaron Hernandez had a gay lover and they're releasing the letters? I don't believe that shit. Was it in jail or out of jail that he had the gay lover? In jail. In jail. In jail.

Oh. Apparently, the gentleman's name has been released. He's 22 years old. I mean, that doesn't matter. I'm just saying they're going to release his suicide letters. Oh, they are. Well, I heard there was one for his wife and one for his mother as well. And the gay lover was the third one?

Yeah. Yeah, I heard there were three. Again, I haven't fact-checked any of this. This is just stuff I heard in passing. Well, no, more importantly, is that whole thing that since he died, his daughter may be entitled to that $15 million? Did that get disputed yet? I don't think that was true.

I'm sure there's some truth to that. It has to be. If he killed himself because of that, that's super hard. It's in his contract. What's in his contract? To kill yourself? No, that his kids will get whatever his contract was worth. I think we were more so disputing the Massachusetts law.

Yeah, well, that would be part of it. Because he didn't exhaust all his options legally because he still had an appeal. So if he dies before the appeal, he hasn't exhausted all his legal options, so now she's still entitled to that money. Yeah, that doesn't really make too much sense to me. We should fact check it is what I'm saying. I don't think anyone is really fact checking. That's just what the Internet says.

But if he killed himself because of that, that's dope. That's an ill-ass suicide. No, it's not. I don't care how you slice that. That's nuts. That's not dope. That 30 for 30 is still going to be the craziest 30 for 30. Wait, wait, wait.

It's not dope that you are going to spend the rest of your life in prison. We don't know if he was. I'm saying this hypothetical. Of course we don't know. That if you kill yourself, your daughter's now going to get $15 million while your wife and her are sleeping in a one-bedroom apartment now? Instead of me just

sitting, rotten in jail, I can get you $15 million? Rory's kind of right. That's the hardest way to go out. That's kind of why I never kill myself. All right, here's my sleeper pic, man. I'm just... Me killing myself didn't change enough. Bro, listen. Too much was the same in my head afterwards.

I was like, you might as well just live. I didn't have a clause in a contract. I didn't have more to think about this decision like Aaron did. Well, you did have the gay lover, so you had that going for you. You know what's crazy? Why do niggas clean up before they kill themselves? Why does a nigga get up

and make up his bed and shit like that? Is that a thing? Yeah. Some niggas go about their day. Why do you go to work and then kill yourself? Why do you get up,

get dressed, and go to work? That is kind of wild. I would want to go to work. Why? To say goodbye or say fuck you niggas and then kill yourself?

yeah get the fuck out that's stupid you do that complex and live why is that stupid? what do you mean? why is that stupid? just kill yourself

don't come here and say bye to niggas you know what one day you could have said bye last night one day when you two are not so like surface

I would like to get I would like to get into some afterlife theories about what you guys, what you gentlemen think happened after we perished from here. Honestly, because you're already intriguing to me. Oh, thanks.

I know you think it's like a heaven afties. Yeah, for sure. It's lit. It's definitely lit. All right, I'm asleep. I'm a little immortal. I think it's lit after you die. Hell yeah. I think it's lit It's definitely lit Alright, I'm asleep I'm a little immortal I think it's lit

After you die Hell yeah I think it's lit too I think it's lit too You can't think it's lit And laugh when you think I think it's lit No, I'm laughing at you

Thinking there's an afties Yeah, it is An after hour In heaven I just don't think that What time's it close? You don't sleep You don't sleep in heaven

So you lit the whole time That is not true Why are you sleeping in heaven? It's probably a good sleep. You see all the fucking mattress commercials. They act like it's a cloud. I got to rest. What am I resting for?

That's true. Spirits don't get tired. And they're always haunting at night, unless they're sleeping during the day. Mad hookah. That's actually a good theory. You are hookah smoke as a spirit. Is the earth flat? Yo, here's my sleeper.

This is Belly from Toronto. Yo, yo. Nah, I ain't gonna play Belly. I ain't gonna play Belly this week. Some new Belly shit. He just sent this to me. You like academics. Nah, this is Brent Fires Poison.

Oh, this better be fire if you got fires in your name. Brent. Brent is just a funny name. Yeah. Brent is a funny name. Oh, man. Now I like it. I've heard this. I've heard this

I've heard this too Are you sure this is Brent Fires? This is Imani again Imani keeps trying To reinvent himself It's okay You just stop bro I've heard this song

As something else No you just You just heard the word damage a lot In your life You're damaged I don't know I feel like this is the same song I just played It's E You play the same song I just played.

It's E. You play the same song every week. He's just not that high pitched. Rory just keep remixing all his sleepers. That shit's working. And the fans are like, yo, Rory's cleaning, y'all. Yeah. Yeah, it's the fucking EP of one song. You stole my sleeper last week.

Mad different mixes. Yeah, you should have played it. This shit is hard. I have more music diversity than you, so I let you have that one because I have more. Thank you, bro. You are too kind. Is the volume up on your phone? Oh, you're doing a lot, dude.

I'm not trying to sleep and see the chick. I wonder if Rory think he heard this song. Rory wrote this shit. For real. He's welcoming a girl to do damage to him because he loves it? Is that not Rory? That's 100% me. No argument over here. That is Rory.

I laughed a lot when I said who was the next Roc Nation signing and I said Rory. That's happening. That was funny. Rory is the next Roc Nation signing. I believe it. Right, Rory? I just need a dad hat and not the snapback. Maul's the only nigga with all these exclusive dad hats.

Maul does have some great dad hats that I've seen and wanted. Fuck me. All right. We're getting the second half of your check here. Come on. Don't look at me like it's already hard. Oh my God. I got to get out of here, man.

Jesus Christ. I don't know if this is over. I have a blast. What happened? Y'all have a fucking blast. What happened? I'm not, I'm not, this is episode. What happened?

What happened was, I was playing, I was trying to play this beautiful song. Y'all sign up. What happened was, I was trying to play this beautiful song. I signed up. What happened? And then I looked up at Rory, because I thought this was a song we all would enjoy. And he said, don't try to look at me like it's already hard. Oh, my God. What happened in there? Oh man. Good show today.

I'm going to listen to this one a lot. This was funny. See, this is the barefoot music. And this is good exit music. that's how we fell in love way that the story goes got me so inspired I had to let the whole world know that I just wanna be a I just wanna be a yo what she look like? This is the Covered Her project.

I've never met her or seen her before. She just wired the money? No, you know where I first heard her? If you want me to be honest, I first heard her on a L.A. project. One of his older projects. He had an interlude that was named after her. Okay. And that interlude is fire.

So, shout out to LA I just want to be your muse I just want to be your prototype Pretty brown eyes Forever your lady That's when it got to know you That's how you feel Roy, you didn't even touch on Black and Apple, by the way. Oh, we didn't. We can.

It's not that long of a conversation. It's good. As soon as this little beat drop acapella part come on. Got me so inspired. Had to let the whole world know. I just want to be your, your, your muse I just gotta be your muse Baby, let me inspire you Cause I just wanna be your muse

I just wanna be your muse You are listening to The Smooth Sounds. I just wanna be your muse Bring the music from it. Pretty brown ass Forever your lady So Rory's informing us that you're breaking this news for me. Well, yeah. I was watching TV in Atlanta.

I was watching SportsCenter and some shit. And I see this amazing black commercial. And I was like, oh, what is black doing on TV TV and then I see at the end it was the Apple logo and I was like that was interesting and really dope of Apple to bring black on a commercial and then a couple hours later I'm refreshing my timeline I see black has an interview with Zane Lowe so then I log on to my Apple music and black is at the top of my page which led me to believe that he is the new artist that Apple's giving that chance deal to there goes so black warming at our pool party black is the fuck out of here as he should because he's extremely talented but also tells me I don't think they'd be putting all this money into him

had he not had music coming up soon. Black is amazing. Black is a friend of the show. Should I have Black performing at the pool party? When I was trying to play with the idea of a performance at the pool party, Black was one of the names I thought of. L.A. was one of the names I thought of.

Tory probably won't be around, but just somebody with that vibe. Jules. Yes, Jules? If Jules is performing in front

of the center. If Jules could sell us a vibe. But that ambiance, I mean, you already know the type of shit. Why don't you have

Shorty that you just played since, you know, she That you just played Since You know She gave you a check Give her a check back She didn't give me a check But I am gonna work With that young lady She's immensely talented

No she's very dope But no I think I think it was great That Black is To me I'm just happy He's a fan Cause I think that means New music is coming

Shortly Hey anybody Any of you niggas I'm ruffling feathers Any of you niggas Wanna do something to me You gonna have to wait Till after the pool party You heard Cause it's litas, I'm ruffling feathers. Any of you niggas want to do something to me, you're going to have to wait until after the pool party.

You heard? Because it's lit. You think I'm missing the pool party. For the right price, I'll give you the address. That would be a bad idea to do it there. Until next time, cocksuckers, beat it. Pause.