The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 112 | "Good Morning"

Episode Date: May 17, 2017

Episode 112 ... NBA lottery, Mother's Day, LA Reid's legacy, Steve Harvey's emails, Bryson Tiller, is college really needed? Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Joe: Kaytranada "Got It Good" | https://soundclo...ud.com/kaytranada/got-it-good Rory: Vanjess "Touch The Floor" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBdRPIB_bFs Mal: Che Ecru "2 AM" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=690BxPKrufs

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right. Oh, I think Trey could give me 20 minutes. Why are we starting with this? No one even likes this drop anymore. All right. All right. No Joe Button. That shit is mad old.
Starting point is 00:00:10 It's just a dope drop. Why are you bringing up old shit? It's just a dope drop. Welcome back. I'm looking to the future. You keep harping on this old shit. Welcome back like we've been somewhere. The Joe Button Podcast, episode number 112, I believe.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm done with the numbers. I try to remember. 112. Listen, whatever. I think done with the numbers. I try to remember. 112. Listen, whatever. I think it's 112. One of the players 12. I remember when you. That's how I know we never did episode 112,
Starting point is 00:00:36 because I would have 100% started singing 112 immediately. So this has to be episode 112. Damn, 112 came out a long time ago. Yeah. Oh, it's over, man. What's over? It. Us. Damn, us.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Yo, so let's start with the draft. Let's start with the draft. Luckily for you guys, the Joe Button podcast had our expert analysis reporter on the scene Oh that's me? Yeah nigga I was watching your insta snaps
Starting point is 00:01:11 I seen you I seen you on the floor Seen you close enough To ref the game You know what I mean? On no floor Relax Oh
Starting point is 00:01:18 You tripped the referee? No I thought you did I thought you tweeted that I should have tripped The fucking referee last night It looked like the Wizards Had it man Yeah If it means anything. It looked like the Wizards had it, man.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah. If it means anything, I was rooting for the Wizards. You know what's funny? I think a lot of people were, though. I think people wanted to see Cleveland-Washington. I told you last week that if the series goes long, John Wall will be gassed. You did. He gave it all he had in game six.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Bill came up. He did what he had to do. You know, people laughed at me on Twitter. I thought that Mello on the Wizards makes sense. I don't think it makes sense. Move Porter to this bench. I think they like Kelly Oubre as their future small forward. I mean, I blame that game on a lot of things last night.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I think Brad Stevens outcoached Scott Brooks. We knew that was going to happen. Yeah, Scott Brooks didn't utilize his bench enough. I don't understand how he didn't play Kelly Oubre last night. I don't understand how he played Mahimi more than he played Jason Smith. They clearly needed a big that can move his feet and stay in front of Kelly Olenek. All right, you're giving me too much analysis on this old guy. I don't care about that.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Back to the draft. The draft, the draft, the draft, the draft, the draft. I'm a Knicks fan, and Knicks got the eighth pick. Yeah, like we kind of figured around that. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. I said seven. Seven was my realistic guess. My worst fear was that they would fall in the 9-10 range.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I would love to see the pick they would have got if they didn't win those last four out of the six games. I only know that because I read it in the newspaper. I certainly stopped watching the Knicks a long time ago. I'm too invested as a fan. I'm too passionate. I can't do it. But I'm not mad at eight.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Maul is a Laker fan. Rory, where does your sport? I'm a Knicks fan. Oh, yeah, you're a Knicks fan as well. So, Maul, let's deal with you because you were jumping up and down in front of the screen. You were screaming. I think you punched me at one point. Yeah were pretty excited about that punch had nothing to do with the lottery but oh i think you were pretty excited about the whole countdown magic you know he sent
Starting point is 00:03:14 the bag in for sure see all right conspiracy theorist joe and then i'm going to throw it to our expert fucking reporter here the lakers are in very good standing with the league. Honestly. The Lakers are one of the teams that the league needs to. But, but, but, but,
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Starting point is 00:03:44 but, No. The Eastern Conference playoffs need the New York Knicks. I believe that. I really do believe that. The Knicks ain't been in the playoffs. But that's a problem. The NBA has been pushing forward without them. Yeah, they're doing just fine. No, I think the Mellow thing just blew up, you know, and then filled with this triangle shit just blew up in their face. But I do think the NBA needs the New York Knicks.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's still going, the triangle. This is what I think. I think that the NBA does have or should have higher interest in some of the bigger market teams, i.e. the Celtics, Lakers, Knicks, and Sixers, right? Yeah. to do to put basketball people in the right positions with these organizations, i.e. Jerry Colangelo in Philadelphia, Phil Jackson in New York. That Lakers situation was a mess. They fixed that up. Ainge is great over there.
Starting point is 00:04:38 So, I mean, you know what I mean? It just so happens the Knicks got stuck with the fucktard. The Knicks got stuck with the hard-headed, arrogant, egotistical Zen Master. No, the only thing I think fucked up...
Starting point is 00:04:50 Who's also checked out. The only thing I think fucked up the Knicks... He's robbing us. He's robbing us. I don't think he's robbing you because he made good draft picks.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I think what fucked up Phil Jackson was... He made one good draft pick. Yeah. Let's make that clear. Him putting that no trade clause in Mello's contract
Starting point is 00:05:04 fucked the Knicks up. He gave it to him. Yeah Yeah. Let's make that clear. Him putting that no trade clause in Melo's contract fucked Nix up. He gave it to him. Yeah, but that was the one move that I think fucked everything up. He gave it to him and he courted him. Yeah. So now the way— But anybody would—I mean, at that time, Melo was, you know, you would court Melo if he was here, too. Not if you felt the way that Phil Jackson says he has always felt about Carmelo.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Phil Jackson says he has always felt about Carmelo. Now those old statements that Phil Jackson made about Carmelo when he was still a member of the Denver Nuggets have to come back to light here. They weren't such favoring comments that he made about him in his game. Was it in his book? I don't remember when it was, but they had to fix that up before Melo even, you know, before, they had to fix that. Yeah. You realize Melo has not beaten the Nuggets since he got traded from them?
Starting point is 00:05:47 The Knicks have not beaten the Nuggets since he got traded from the Nuggets. Not one time. You're trying to make me sad. No, that's a crazy stat, though. That's crazy. That's crazy. I just can't see how you would waste a Hall of Famer in his peak. They didn't do shit.
Starting point is 00:06:04 If there are any ladies listening, I promise, we're going to be done with the draft talk soon. But I do know a lot of hoes and thots listen to our podcast as well. And I know a lot of y'all hoes and thots don't really recognize the names we're saying, but on draft night, y'all going to be out. So technically, you should be listening. Yeah, honestly. And I have an interesting theory about the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You're not a fan of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is great. Yeah, honestly. And I have an interesting theory about the Celtics. You're not a fan of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is great. This is great. This is a conspiracy theory mall for the first time. I want to hear it. I think that the Celtics are going to let IT walk.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I don't think they're going to pay a 5'7 guard almost $200 million. I believe it. That's the hot take horn? I believe they're going to draft Fultz. They're going to draft a point guard. Is Maul fucking nuts? I'm telling you. They're not letting him go.
Starting point is 00:06:56 All right, so earlier you said you think they're going to let him go. They're going to bring in Gordon Hayward, and they're going to draft Fultz. Roy, what do you think about this? I kind of respect Maul's basketball knowledge sometimes. Joe, listen, though. You can't draft a point guard with the number one pick and make him a bench guy. You're not going to bring him off the bench. You're not drafting a point guard with the number one pick
Starting point is 00:07:19 to bring him off the bench. That's not happening. You're not going to do that. You're not going to do that. Why? Because why would you draft a point guard? You might as well go after an area you need. The Celtics don't need guards.
Starting point is 00:07:32 You draft the best player available. I would draft the best big available. Which is who? Probably Tatum. Tatum plays the what? Three. Three, four. They don't need a three or a four.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I mean, they're going to go after Gordon Hayward. They do need a three. Why can't they draft Fultz and then end up trading him and keep Isaiah Thomas? Why would you give up
Starting point is 00:07:51 one of the best players in the league right now? They can't score a bucket without him. Bring in Gordon Hayward. And you want to trade that and put all your chips in this unproven,
Starting point is 00:08:02 I get it, stud sensation in Fultz. Okay, so let me say this. If they draft Fultz, let me. And faults. If they draft faults. Let me just say that. If they draft a point guard, they don't plan on having IT. Man, the first 16 teams are drafting point guards. Yeah, but that's my thing.
Starting point is 00:08:17 So what are you going to do? You're going to just have them sitting on the bench? You're going to take your number one pick and have them sitting on the bench? You're not just letting the guy walk that score 30 a game since February. But it's a business. You got to think long-term. You understand? Isaiah Thomas is how old?
Starting point is 00:08:31 He'll be 29, 30, 29. All right, none of these niggas are paying me, so I don't care this much. I'm just saying that's just my – if they draft Fultz, I don't think they have long-term plans for IT. Is it a given that Gordon Hayward is going there? I think it's almost a given. He's leaving utah and i think you know i think him and age are kind of you know on the same page somehow on mother's day i ended up in bounce in nyc and i bumped in uh cj mccullough and some of his friends uh shout out to him friend of the show Let me see if I can get A round of applause For CJ Good guy
Starting point is 00:09:05 Great player Great player Yeah So then he started Lying to me Lying to me to my face I start telling him He should come to the Knicks
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Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, he got a bag. I'm going to invite him to the pool party. Yeah, you should. Yeah? Yeah. Got to watch these athlete niggas, man. You ain't learned your lesson yet. Me?
Starting point is 00:09:39 We haven't seen enough of these stories. It's not going to stop. Oh, wait, I forgot. Yo, the week feels so long. Oh, we never even touched. It did feel like a long week since we last saw each other. Yeah, it's been a long week. It's been going to stop. Oh, wait, I forgot. Yo, the week feels so long. Oh, we never even touched. It did feel like a long week. It's been a long week. It's been a long week. All right, so let's get off of that.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Let's get off of that, and we'll revisit that when we start finding out what teams are going to do. Good luck to the Knicks. Good luck to the Lakers. Wait, who do you want the Lakers to take? If we're going to go after God, I want Dennis Smith Jr. With the number two pick? With the number two pick? Yeah. I think that's where—I think the Knicks are going to end up with him. After God, I want Dennis Smith Jr. With the number two pick?
Starting point is 00:10:08 I think that's where, I think the Knicks are going to end up with him. I'm just saying, if the Lakers, I don't want Lonzo Ball. They're taking Lonzo Ball. I either want Dennis Smith Jr. or Josh Jackson. He is a Laker. Josh Jackson. Ball is a Laker. I think the Knicks are stupid enough to take some foreign kid. They got their eyes on that French dude.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I think y'all going to get Malik Monk. Nikolai French, I'll be. Yeah. I think y'all gonna get Malik Monk. Nikolai French. I'll be very happy. I think Smith Jr. I don't think Malik Monk stays on that board at number eight. Dennis Smith Jr.,
Starting point is 00:10:31 they have him going eight right now. He's not gonna go that far down. Especially if he goes to the camp. If he works out, he's not going that far down.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Malik Monk is not dropping that far. No. I don't think so. All right. So we'll find out. We'll revisit this now. What is pertinent now? Are we all tired of the L. No. I don't think so. All right, so we'll find out. We'll revisit this now. What is pertinent now?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Are we all tired of the L.A. Reid story? I know I've been adamant in it and I've spoken with lots of conviction. Yo, there's a creepy thing going on with this show, man. Like, we talk about shit
Starting point is 00:10:56 on here, man, and it comes to fruition and I'm like, man, what the fuck is going on? And that L.A. Reid shit that Joe was talking about came out of fucking nowhere. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's not even like he was in the news. Joe just wanted to hate someone. I don't even think Joe hates L.A. Reid. Yeah, man. It's not even like he was in the news. Joe just wanted to hate someone. I don't even think Joe hates L.A. Reid. I just think he needs to find someone
Starting point is 00:11:10 to dislike. That's my theory. That's not true. Y'all know that my brain is multi-layered. Y'all know I'm obsessive. You know I'm a deep thinker. AKA, you're crazy as back.
Starting point is 00:11:22 However you want to put this. I put L.A. Reid I thought I've explained this Why I'm so adamant in my position fam You made a lot of sense with it though But again I understand in my tone My delivery
Starting point is 00:11:37 I get that part Once all you suck ass niggas get past that The message be loud and clear I agree Now I never Would have correlated niggas get past that. The message be loud and clear. I agree. Now, I never would have correlated him losing money everywhere he went to hiring strippers and hoes on the company dime.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I mean, that's a regular scene. And I'm not kind of mad at that. I'm not mad at that, but no, you can't do that. And you can't do that and be in charge of the bags. See, because this is the problem. You're in charge of everybody's bag. You're in charge of the company bag.
Starting point is 00:12:14 No one has challenged you on this information you're getting that he's lost money at every place. You just keep saying, look it up. Where do I look it up? Where do I see that L.A. Reid lost money at every place he went to? Tell me why Amherst Records no longer exists, because I can tell you. Because they signed shitty artists in the last few years. That's not true. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:12:32 They signed great artists. They did nothing with them. Okay, Def Jam's still afloat with artists that L.A. was behind and pushing and signed. Let's talk about it. Rihanna, Young Jeezy. Oh, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. L.A. Reid had zero to do with Rihanna Young Jeezy Oh stop stop stop Stop stop stop Stop stop stop Stop stop stop L.A. Reid had
Starting point is 00:12:47 Zero to do with Rihanna Coming to Def Jam Okay Zero to do with Rihanna Coming to Def Jam Don't do that But developing her Into the pop star
Starting point is 00:12:54 That she is now I was on Def Jam When Rihanna got to Def Jam L.A. Reid didn't have A fucking thing to do With Rihanna Coming to Def Jam Okay I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:13:00 Fuck the signing No no no Fuck the signing part Let's stay at Rihanna Making her into a pop star L.A. Reid all day Okay I'm just saying Fuck the signing No no no Fuck the signing part Let's stay at Rihanna Making her into a pop star LA Reid all day Okay I'm rolling
Starting point is 00:13:08 Not really But I'm with you You have to give him some credit Cause he was there During the tenure Give him some credit He was there During the tenure
Starting point is 00:13:15 But he had He was steering the ship He had zero He didn't steer no Wait hold up When SOS Cause I remember They tried to give
Starting point is 00:13:23 One of those records To Christina Milian I don't That wasn't LA LA Reid was not there During SOS Hold up. When S.O.S. Because I remember they tried to give one of those records to Christina Milian. That wasn't L.A. L.A. Reid was not there during S.O.S. L.A. Reid was not there for Umbrella. So when you say that he broke Rihanna, I'm not rolling with that. Now, did he add to her career?
Starting point is 00:13:37 I'm rolling. I mean, he was there. And he's a genius in R&B. I'm not hating that. I think with Umbrella, of course, that pushed her to becoming a pop star. But her developing into Rihanna, not just a pop star. Like, Rihanna has that separation where she has that Madonna shit. Like, that happened when L.A. was steering the ship. Of course, Hov signed Rihanna, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Umbrella was a big record. It put her in the charts. That didn't make Rihanna. Umbrella, Good Girl, Going Bad did not make Rihanna. Rated R made Rihanna to me. And that was L.A. Reid all day. I won't argue against L.A. Reid contributing to Rihanna. But Joe's beef wasn't with R&B or L.A. Reid.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I think it was more from hip-hop. No, no, no. I don't know if we had the— Yeah, that is where my ultimate problem lie. But Rory made his point. He said nobody is challenging me. He wants to challenge me. Rory used to work for L.A. Reid.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I forgot all about that and don't know too much about that. I just know about my experience with him, and that's what I base it on. So my experience with him and being there for that whole switch, every so often, the entire industry does a whole
Starting point is 00:14:42 shift. So that was a big, big deal when Kevin and Lior upped. The whole industry played musical chairs. Warner, Universal, like that was the news. Yeah. So when L.A. got there to go from golden era Def Jam, Def Jam, Def Jam, to L.A. who just was fired, who just was the shit talk of the industry. Everybody in music, his name was Mud.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Right. And he came. And he came. And we was a little worried about that. We was a little nervous there. Which is why they said, okay, he got to hire a hip-hop guy. He got to hire Hov. But anyway, my point is to go from Lior to L.A. is such a
Starting point is 00:15:30 drastic change. And those changes implemented in the staple of hip-hop. Okay. Granted, I agree with you there. I agree with you there, but you have to look at where hip-hop was at the time. And in my opinion, L.A. Reid might have been the better guy there because it wasn't the golden age anymore.
Starting point is 00:15:46 It's not like Lior and L.A. switched and hip-hop switched. Hip-hop was switching already. No. Yes, it was. What year did L.A. get there? That was 05, 06? 05, 06.
Starting point is 00:15:59 05 might have been one of the biggest changed years in hip-hop history. Yeah. That might have been the biggest transition. 05 might have been one of the biggest changed years in hip-hop history yeah that might have been the biggest transition 05 might have been the biggest transition from our typical uh east coast shit that we loved to the south and the snap movement it music changed significantly in 05 and i i think it was okay that's that's a good point i'm rolling rolling. And I think LA, with which Universal was just doing in general, you have to put that in this factor as well. They had signed Justin Bieber. A lot of Def Jam artists were going to Island.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Tayo Cruz was keeping the fucking lights on at Universal. Hip-hop wasn't doing it. Neo was popping at the time. They needed a guy that was more versed in R&B, not just hip-hop. Which is perfectly fine Until that gentleman Starts calling the shots On the hip hop side Right
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah I think that's what Joe's question was I think No no you gotta take I mean he tried to hire people At the time Well That were hip hopists
Starting point is 00:16:57 Shakir God bless his soul Was amazing Yeah Somebody else was real amazing I will say that He had some amazing they had all right so when he had that with shakir then obviously he wasn't the hip-hop hip-hop guy he got lenny s he got sean money he was trying to grab people that he knew that hip-hop was his
Starting point is 00:17:16 achilles heel there even though he had outcast and fucking brought all of the dungeon family to fruition we'll just leave that to the side he He knew that. So he hired people that knew hip hop. He was a good leader at the time. It just didn't pan out very well just because I think music in general didn't pan out very well. In three different places. I'm just talking about Def Jam right now. Okay, so let's stay on Def Jam. So now you get to Def Jam.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You change the entire business model. And underneath all of this, music was changing. There lie allegations of sexual misconduct. Don't even want to talk about that. Why? Because we're talking about his legacy in music. No, that's what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I'm talking about my experience with L.A. Reid. The information that I have received from L.A. Reid. Oh, well, if you want to talk about his situation. The information that I have received from L.A. Reid, why I view L.A. Reid like I talk about him, and it's very unlike you and the rest of the people that speak to his legacy. His legacy is cemented in music. It's amazing. We never got to talk about LaFace. There's nothing to argue.
Starting point is 00:18:20 There's nothing to even debate. Well, no, you also said off-air to me that you were saying that's not just about rap When music period And I looked at you nuts No I've never said that in my life I've never said that in my life I've never said in my life
Starting point is 00:18:30 Music period I'm lying Did you just snitch? No You said he said off air to me And then you said Well yeah He didn't say it on air
Starting point is 00:18:38 Is that snitching now? You said it was said off air And you brought it on air And then you brought it on air Damn Oh shit Listen man I'm trying to give you 20 minutes Now we have to get It was set off air. You brought it on air. And then you brought it on air. Damn. Oh, shit. Listen, man. We're going to get you out of here.
Starting point is 00:18:46 You know what I mean? You're trying to give me 20 minutes of this. Now we have to get the trash in. Yeah, we got to get the fucking shit, man. Oh, my God. This is terrible. This is terrible. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So what were we talking about just now? Oh, L.A. Reid. All right. So let's not touch that. But my experience there is you took a staple. You fucking put that shit in a blender. Some other shit came out. A lot of people lost their jobs.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I watched people that I love just be unemployed. He drove that building to shit, and they shipped his ass out of there, too. Yeah. They shipped him The fuck out So when I go sit down In front of L.A. Reid And me just being Passionate about hip hop And he starts giving me
Starting point is 00:19:32 The spiel about How all of these Def Jam acts And songs Have too many words In them I feel a way about it I do
Starting point is 00:19:40 I do I do It was Again I do I don't care L.A. Reid said you were Too wordy Not me He named us It was a slew And I do. Again, it was 2005. You were too wordy?
Starting point is 00:19:45 Not me. Okay. He named us. It was a slew, and I won't get into it. But there were a lot of Def Jam acts. And you know what? You reap what you sow. Because at the time, the knock on Lyle's and these niggas was,
Starting point is 00:20:00 oh, y'all just keep giving deals to all the old niggas. Like, y'all going to give fucking, like, L.L. Like y'all going to give fucking, like Ella always have a deal here. Like Mefa always have a deal here. Like certain niggas would always have. I think so. They should. I think so, but I do understand the business side of it when you're on the decline or you're on the downside of your career.
Starting point is 00:20:18 No offense to anybody. I understand it. So that was the knock there. So I'm all with new Blood And doing things a different way But that twist And now to see where he is And what he is attached to No
Starting point is 00:20:33 No I don't credit LA for Khaled I don't Well I credit Khaled for Khaled But Having someone steering the ship So my point is That actually make the deal go through
Starting point is 00:20:44 Khaled can't sign a deal himself It takes two people So my point is that actually make the deal go through Khaled can't sign a deal himself it takes two people so my point is so recognizing that and recognizing Travis and Future to break
Starting point is 00:20:50 because Epic was Epic was shit before he got there Khaled was with him on Def Jam I know he just brought the whole crew over there
Starting point is 00:20:58 when they shipped his ass out yeah cause they liked him no cause he fucking funnels the money to his niggas I'm sorry I'm sorry what exec doesn't do that no there's nothing everyone in the world Yeah, because they liked him. No, because he fucking funnels the money to his niggas. I'm sorry, what exec doesn't do that?
Starting point is 00:21:08 No, there's nothing. Everyone in the world was at Atlantic. Donald Trump is doing it right now, Rory, but my point is you have to be able to do that. Kaiser, Julie, Todd were all there. But you have to be able to do that and meet the quota. Everybody you just named. I'm still wondering where you get this info. You're just saying it. You haven't proven it yet.
Starting point is 00:21:29 You keep saying look it up. Where do I look it up? Wait, wait, time out, time out. What is he saying that I'm not proving? That he lost money everywhere he went. What? Okay. You can Google why he is not at Def Jam.
Starting point is 00:21:42 You can Google why he is not at Arista. And you can Google what is happening at Epic right now. Future is the flagship artist at Epic right this second. He just started selling records a second ago. He been the flagship there forever. Stop telling me about Epic and L.A. Reid's fucking greatness. Stop. I don't think he's the flagship.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Epic is Sony. That's a big label. There's a lot of other people other than Future on Sony. What other rap acts? I looked them up. I looked them up. No, I'm talking about hip-hop. I'm talking about rap. Say hip-hop because you didn't say hip-hop. I'm only talking about hip-hop with L.A. What is...
Starting point is 00:22:17 I know that's your man, Rory, but you gotta start making... L.A. is not my man. You gotta start making sense here. I'm only talking about hip-hop. You was not when we originally had this conversation, so now you're saying it's hip-hop when you didn't say it before. That's not man. You got to start making sense here. I'm only talking about hip-hop. You was not when we originally had this conversation. So now you're saying it's hip-hop when you didn't say it before. You said the same very shit you always say. You said, I'm going to try to argue it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:34 All right. And I said, you're going to lose. I was there. And you said, I was there. And you didn't say hip-hop. You didn't say hip-hop. And then he told me he was there. And I said, okay, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:22:42 But I'm only talking about my experience. That's it. Nothing wrong. I mean, more will be revealed. You got to give time time. We watching it unfold. That's all. What do you give good music to?
Starting point is 00:22:57 Strictly Kanye, or you think L.A. had anything to do with that? I don't give any of that to L.A. Reid. Why do you give it to L.A. Reid? Because he was the head of the company when it was created. All right. Rory is nuts. I'm not. No, I'm not nuts.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, but that was gay, though. All right. Okay. Do you give Lior Rockefeller? You give Lior Rockefeller? No. Oh, well, then there's plenty of things that would act don't deserve credit for. Why am I giving Lior Rockefeller?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Tell me. He was the head of the company at the time. He had a lot to do with that deal and what they were doing. This is a conversation, unfortunately, we cannot touch. That'll be the only time I ever say this on this podcast. This one right here that you're trying to lead me to is the only one we cannot touch. So I'm not touching it. But I'm not giving Rockefeller to Leo, and I'm not giving good music to fucking LA.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I don't know what... All right, Rory's got an affinity for LA. No, I don't. We're just having a conversation. All right, well, it doesn't make sense. I'm just talking about the other side. So you think because he was just there that he had... No, I'm saying if all the other execs are getting the credit for all these amazing clicks and acts while they were the head of the label, why does L.A. not get the same luxury?
Starting point is 00:24:09 But you're the person that said that. I never am crediting Leroy Cohen for Rockefeller or Murder, Inc. or Rough Riders. Well, that is what made his era at Def Jam so amazing. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Then you got Lior fucked up. I don't have, well, first of all, I don't have Lior fucked up,
Starting point is 00:24:29 but I credit a lot of- That, of course, added to his shit. But I don't think- Then what's his legacy at Def Jam? Nobody is saying that Lior curated these clicks.
Starting point is 00:24:38 No, I'm not, first of all, I'm not saying that, but he put them on a label together. I give Lior credit because L Leo was a forward thinker. So at the time, he was the only person brave enough to take on entire companies and wear it. So I give him that.
Starting point is 00:24:55 That's why he's a genius. He put that faith in niggas when it was taboo to do in music. So I give him that. But Leo's greatness, I could speak to that all day. I don't want to get into that. L.A., I'm not giving him good music. So I give him that. But Lior's greatness, I could speak to that all day. I don't want to get into that. L.A., I'm not giving him good music. Jesus, man. We in Joseph.
Starting point is 00:25:11 What else you want to give this nigga? God damn it. Young Jeezy? What? I'm finished with this conversation. Shakir brought him to L.A. and L.A. Sounder. What are you talking about? I'm finished with this conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:23 All right, so then we're not giving any executive any credit ever. If that's the narrative you want to go with, we can't give any executive credit at all for anything that happens on a label. If you're leading the company and that's happening under you and you're approving everything on yes or no, you get credit for it. I give Lior credit for Rockefeller. I give L.A. Reid credit for Young Jeezy. Shakur brought Shakur brought him and said
Starting point is 00:25:49 yo this guy is nice. L.A. yes let's do it. Launched Jeezy's career. Rap music. I have a totally different recollection of that entire
Starting point is 00:25:58 chain of events that Rory speaks of. Nice. What do these chains of events you speak of Rory? I don't remember that happening like that at all I mean I get it but I don't
Starting point is 00:26:10 It's a lot of L.A. Reid ain't have a fucking thing to do with Def Jam And then what? With In The Streets popping He was nowhere near Def Jam when that record came out Why are we crediting L.A. Reid? Google is our friend Alright
Starting point is 00:26:24 Google is our friend Alright In right. Google is our friend. All right. In May 2004, Jazzy Fuzz manager sent Jeezy's demo to Shakir, vice president and artist, A&R at Def Jam. Stewart fell in love with the demo, heard it, took it to L.A. Reid. Reid recognized the talent and gave Stewart the green light to sign it. Jeezy was on Def Jam. Jeezy is a layover artist. When L.A. got there. Jeezy was on Def Jam. Jeezy is a layover artist.
Starting point is 00:26:46 When L.A. got there, Jeezy was there. That paperwork was in, in happening. And even, I don't know about all that. Let's Google when that record, when and then what hit the streets.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Roy ain't giving L.A. a lot of credit that he don't deserve. I'm just arguing the other side. What other side? I wish, that L.A. gets, like, some credit here. It just...
Starting point is 00:27:08 You're giving L.A. All right, let's say that you're right. Because we ain't got time to Google. You're giving L.A. credit for Shakir's greatness? No. Well, recognizing... Hiring someone so great to then bring Jeezy to him, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Which would be great. That's what a leader does. He hires people that are talented to then bring him the talent. That makes sense, Rory, if you're meeting the overhead. If you're meeting the overhead, if you're meeting the quota, then you're right. If you're doing all of these amazing things and you are hitting your mark quarterly. This is 05, so we wouldn't know at that point. It was his first year.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I wish I could toss it to the desk right now that's funny how i wish i could just toss it to the desk right now now that i'm done uh trying to make you understand that la deserves some credit i will say la's legacy at def jam in a negative way was he's the reason why Def Jam has no longer had any artist development. They only know how to market stars because that's what LA was amazing at, was marketing stars. Spending money, you mean. Spending money, you mean. It takes a lot of money to do that. Spending money. He knows how to spend a lot of money. Me too. I think Big Sean. Yeah, me too. I don't know how much of a genius you got to
Starting point is 00:28:23 be to spend a lot of fucking money for a long time. Big Sean did that all on his fucking own. They didn't give a fuck about Big Sean. And then all of a sudden, his shit popped. And they're like, all right, well, let's do Marvin Gaye and Chardonnay. But no, there's no artist development over there. And I think L.A. was a big part of that. But I just also think that's where music was at the time.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It was hard for labels to do artist development. They only knew how to spend money. But that was everyone. I don't think that was just L. at the time. It was hard for labels to do artist development. They only knew how to spend money. But that was everyone. I don't think that was just LA. Spending money was the music business. Lior and Kevin did it. Everyone did it. They spent a shit ton of money.
Starting point is 00:28:53 But Kevin and Lior adapted much better to it and found new ways, which makes them great. I promise the listeners that for the next, let's say for the next few months, I refrain from speaking on L.A. Reid. I've said my piece. I'm on to the next. On to the next. I don't know who the next is, but I'm on to the next. What is the next? How was Mother's Day? We didn't even get to Mother's Day. Shout to all the mothers out there, by the way. I love all of you. Mine was good. Shout to my mom. Love you, mom.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I think my new tradition is going to be celebrating Mother's Day the day before or the day after when everyone else is doing it. Yeah, the day of is always hectic. Yeah, I'm never celebrating Mother's Day or Mother's Day. Rory sent an interesting- I was going to get to that. Get to what? So I take my mother out for dinner on Mother's Day, naturally. And she's a friend of the show.
Starting point is 00:29:47 She listens to the podcast. Hi, Rory's mom. Hi, Rory's mom. Loves you both and had a question about Maul. And I said, great. I love Maul. I love questions. I love Maul and I love questions.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Be inquisitive about my friend. She said, is Maul gay? Moms love that question. So naturally, knowing mole is not gay. I was like, no. Why do you think that? Well, every time you guys bring up, you know, women, he gets like uncomfortable and dating women. He's never done that before, which is kind of a sign.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I mean, hold on, hold on. What is the hmm about? What is on. What is the hmm about? What is that? What is the hmm about? I don't know. I can't hmm? No, nigga. You don't hmm when somebody's alluding
Starting point is 00:30:31 to why they think I might be gay. No, no, no. Get the fuck out of here. No, I'm not hmm. Nah, I know you're not gay. I've seen you do legendary shit. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Relax, relax.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Oh, who's snitching this? Relax, man. Relax. Relax. Relax, dog. Relax. Relax. Relax, dog. Relax. All right, relax. Are you coming to the pool party? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Relax, my nigga. Oh, man. So I did progress. Dog. Relax, my nigga. Relax. Who really had Mendeci's heart? How did Yandy and Erica end up with...
Starting point is 00:31:00 Relax. Why is relax so funny? I never want to relax. But you never relax. When I say relax. It's like, oh, but it be relaxed already. Nah, you ain't relaxed. All right, back to Rory, man. And then I'm trying to explain to her that you are not gay.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And then she just gets into the other mode of, well, I don't care if he's gay. Like, if that's your friend, I don't care if he's gay. That's the funny part. I know he's not gay. Well, it's okay if he is gay. It's like, you know, no, mom, I'm not gay. I promise I'm not. Rory's mom always not gay. Well, it's okay if he is gay. It's like, you know, no, mom, I'm not gay. I promise I'm not. Rory's mom always not gay.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Nothing against gay people, but no. I was umming because outside of the conclusion of her assessment, she might have read you pretty good, man. No, it's just, you know what it is, y'all. Because you haven't had a relationship in a long time. I had a relationship. Not one that you'll tell people about. I had a relationship. But what I'm saying is people get that because you just put so much emphasis on that.
Starting point is 00:31:51 You haven't had a girlfriend, man. In like 22 years. That's not true. We've only been with each other for the past mad years. Where your mood music fucking 3K about? I've had a girlfriend. That was like fucking 11 years ago. Nah, Duke. What? I haven't had a girlfriend Mad years Where your mood music Fucking 3 came out I've had a girlfriend That was like Fucking 11 years ago
Starting point is 00:32:07 Nah Duke What I haven't had a girlfriend No I have Which is why Rory's mom Is fucking You know what I mean No I've had a girlfriend
Starting point is 00:32:14 Alright man And I've definitely had relationships Maybe not girlfriend I don't care As long as you come to the pool party I'm straight Shut up man Let's take a hit
Starting point is 00:32:21 You always want some bullshit to start Yo No bullshit It's happening at the pool party Yeah I think it might have to happen I think bullshit might have to happen Absolutely Speaking of pool party
Starting point is 00:32:32 I'm here to lay down the rules And the etiquette of pool parties This pool party etiquette I'm happy about this I think we should get this We should put this in the air now We're about a month out You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:32:44 We need to put this out now I like it's lit. We're about a month out. You know what I'm saying? We need to put this out now. I like it. Yeah. Actually, tomorrow will be exactly a month out. Right. So when you're hearing this, we're a month out. Right. Number one, people have to remember, if you're not invited, do not show up.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Even if you think you're invited. Do people really listen to that? No. This is why we're putting it out there. I don't care if we follow each other. I don't care if we've had conversations. If I didn't invite you, don't show up saying,
Starting point is 00:33:14 yo, Maul said, because Maul ain't said nothing. Yeah. That's a fact. Also, we have a list going. There will be no plus ones.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Your actual name has to be something else yeah and if you are a plus one for some weird reason away from this you don't get a plus one away from this we all have to sit down and look look at each other's list of invites because i feel like there's some overlapping i feel like there may be some overlapping between who someone might invite erica and someone might invite yandy everybody in in the clique is fucking wifed up. No, but I'm not, that doesn't matter. I'm talking about there still might be some overlapping in invites is what I'm saying. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I have already told niggas. Because like you might invite somebody that I'm kind of like, I don't fuck with that nigga. Who am I inviting? I'm just, I don't know. That's why we got to sit down and look at lists. Who you don't fuck with? There's a few niggas I don't fuck with. You know that.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Damn, since when? I don't fuck with niggas, man.iggas I don't fuck with. You know that. Damn, since when? I don't fuck with niggas, man. Nah, all I know is cool with everybody. No, I'm cool. It ain't beef. I just don't want to be around niggas at a pool party. I ain't trying to have fake conversations and fake what's ups. You're not trying to snap with them?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Nah. Oh, no, I don't want none of that. Well, tell me so I can be mad at them, too. This is why we have to have conversations away from the show. I'm that kind of friend. No, I'm saying, yeah, but that's why we're going to have conversations away from the show. No, fuck you, man. Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:34:26 No, fuck you, man. Yes, I am. Ah, look at Rory. Oh, man. Hold up, man. Where's my fucking... Rory sounds like he got some salt. What happened?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Oh, now we got some salt. Oh, fuck it. What the fuck was that? We got to wait to ask the department. Did you wait to... Did you hit me with the off-air? Oh, she hit the off-air button.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yo, Rory is crazy, man. You hit the off-air button on me? Rory's a wild dude, man. Joe, a little shady. Rory, you seem like you might have a little bit of beef out there in the streets, though. I got a little bit. Yeah, I know. I got a little bit.
Starting point is 00:34:57 That's... But see, but that's my point with Rory. I don't have beef. I just don't... That's my only point with Rory. I can't speak for Rory and his fucking anger management, Irish Henny Palooza ways when I'm not around. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I can only say that I've heard enough stories from enough people to make my own conclusions about Rory and his Irish Henny Palooza ways when he's out of town. So what do you want me to do? Yeah. What bad ways have I done with my anger? We can talk about that on air. What have I done with my anger? Oh, come on that on air. What have I done with my anger?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Oh, come on. Is this a case? This sound like a fucking case. This is a story that will go down in the love and hip-hop history books. I don't get in anybody's way. What is a lie? Yo, listen, and we're not doing if ladies and females got
Starting point is 00:35:41 them little lap dogs, don't bring your fucking lap dog to the pool party, yo. Okay, now let's deal with that. We're them Little lap dogs Don't bring your fucking Lap dog to the pool party Okay now let's deal with that We're not doing lap dogs We're not doing lap dogs Cause I will gladly Throw that shit to Brooklyn And let them have a ball with it Brooklyn eat that shit
Starting point is 00:35:51 Let's deal with that I have hired 15 security guards Off duty officers And vehicles Brooklyn Kenzo Harlem pussy
Starting point is 00:36:02 But I'm sure There'll be some other dangerous shit around. We ain't with the shits, man. If you're not invited, just don't come. I don't care if you cool with mall. I don't care. See, damn. See?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Why I got to beat me off the bat? Because I know you the nigga that they're going to try and get the little in with. That's why I put that out there. Because you played three on three one day with some nigga somewhere. First of all, a nigga playing three on three is crazy right now. What's wrong with three on three? Niggas ain't playing three on three no more, man. Yo, mall is so Hollywood, man.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Three on three? You think if a nigga called me right now and said, let's go play three on three, I'm going to be like, bet? Mall. Get the fuck out of here. Mall, you know what's funny about mall? What's funny about mall? Let me tell you what's funny about mall.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Okay, let's hear it. The last time that I saw mall on the court. It was how long ago? Years. Yes, it was years. So you know I'm not playing three on three with nobody. The last time that I saw him all on the court. Was how long ago? Years? Yes, it was years. So you know I'm not playing three on three with nobody. But it was a two man and we was in the park. And homeboy fucking Jade your fucking face, Shad.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Oh, are we going to talk about that? Shad. Because I forgot homeboy's name when we was. Yo, listen, if we talking about hooping, when we was at the park, what was his name? Romello? Romeo? We going to call him Romeo. I think it at the park, what was his name? Romello? Romeo? We going to call him Romeo. I think it was.
Starting point is 00:37:07 This nigga was shooting. It was Romello. Romello. This nigga was shooting. Anyone named Romello is good at basketball. No, no, no. But you don't understand. He was shooting jumpers and calling it good before it even went in.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He was Steph Curry before Steph Curry. He was turning away, running down the other end of the court before it went in. No one yelled switch after the first three? We was trying to, but you know Joe got that. I got him. I got him. He was 49 years old. I don't care how old he was.
Starting point is 00:37:29 That nigga was J-ing your face off. No? Romello had a good game. Okay. Okay. All right. Cool. He was hot that day.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Romello had a good game that day. He's like, that's good. That shit was 10 feet in the air still. I'm like, my nigga, dog. Joe, switch. Switch. I'm off the court saying that's good. Switch. Joe like, nah, I got him. I got him. Alright, nigga, we down.
Starting point is 00:37:51 We down six. The game is 10. That score in the last eight. Yeah, I'm like, switch. Nah, I got him. I'm like, alright, man. Ramello had a good game that day. He had a hell of a game that day. I ain't never seen his ass in the park since, though. That's it. I would've walked off like that, too. I want that to be my last performance.
Starting point is 00:38:06 That's how it says the game was going out. Yeah, I bust Joe Butt'n'Ass. I'm out. That's funny, though. I'm never picking up a ball again. Yeah, but you got
Starting point is 00:38:11 a few of those stories. Yeah. Mike Thug put you on... He ain't put me on skates. We ain't gonna talk about all this right now. We gonna get off of basketball. I don't even know
Starting point is 00:38:19 how we stayed on basketball this long. We talking about the pool party. We can get back to that. Oh, shit. More rules to the pool party. We can get back to that. Oh, shit. More rules to the pool party. Should I say it?
Starting point is 00:38:32 I got a lot of rules. Go ahead. Hey, listen, ladies. We not doing, you know, not getting in the pool, just standing around and look cute thing and snap pictures all day.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yo, you know what I kind of want to do? I ain't going to lie. I kind of want it to be no phones, man. It's got to be phones. No, it's got to be phones. Why? I got kids, man. I can't just put my phone away.
Starting point is 00:38:53 No, we can have a phone. I'm talking about everybody else. I think it should be no phones. I kind of want to see how people just interact with each other, man. I don't want it to be clicks here, there, there. Yo, everybody fuck with everybody. Does everybody have conversations? No phones, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:39:08 We ain't going to sit on IG Live all day. We're not going to sit on Snap all day. We're not going to do that. I think you look stupid doing that at the pool party. The pool party was never that. What? Where you just sit around and do that all day. Now, granted, there's a lot more capability now.
Starting point is 00:39:22 That's what I'm saying. And I feel like I was live streaming back then Yeah but that's what I'm saying And I feel like now It'll be like out of control It's gonna be like The service is shitty In his backyard
Starting point is 00:39:31 And the wifi Don't really reach anywhere Yeah you're gonna be Looking kinda nuts Chicks come with their own You ain't know These IG hoes Got their own hotspots
Starting point is 00:39:37 Y'all ain't know IG hoes come with hotspots No the IG hoes Are the hotspots That's what I'm saying They come with the hotspots So if I pull my Wi-Fi up, I'll see her at me.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Stand next to an IG model and see how much Wi-Fi you get. Unbelievable. That's funny. I'm dead serious. They're going to have their own hotspot. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I don't need the password for the Wi-Fi. I think there's going to be entirely too many activities to partake in. I think it's going to be too many funny people, too many great personalities.
Starting point is 00:40:02 D-Nice is DJing. I would love to see you be glued to your phone while D-Nice is DJing. I would love to see you be glued to your phone while D-Nice is DJing. I do. That means nothing to a girl that's there just to get her pictures off. And hashtag. Well, why do we let them in? Because they look good. Oh, please.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Be done. Shot some shit up and got them out of here. No, we want females. Don't let sin scare the ladies away. No, I'm not talking about females, but the type of female y'all talking about. I just want to have fun, man. Don't start doing that shit you was doing in the jacuzzi that time with your friends. Snitching.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Is this nigga snitching? Mad snitching. He told that story on this fucking podcast. This shit is crazy. No, I just want to have fun. I want everybody to have fun, mingle, associate with each other. It's going to be fun. That's what I'm looking forward to.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Y'all get your rompers ready for the... I have romper shit. I don't know. I don't get it. That's crazy. I don't understand. They really are pushing this feminine agenda on men. Tell me about this.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I don't know how it started But romper Male rompers Are now the new thing For the summer And Twitter had a lot to say What is a romper? It's like a one piece Where you have to take The whole thing off to piss
Starting point is 00:41:11 That sound like a K7 song A romper Yeah You gotta take the whole thing off So it's like a one suit Like a one piece Yeah but it's shorts And it's connected to the top
Starting point is 00:41:22 A Russell Westbrook Cam Newton type shit. Yeah, Cam Newton, I think wore one because his picture was all over the time. Okay, so why is this such a big deal today? You know, it's Twitter. I guess they trying to force that as the new fashion trend for the summer for men, I guess. Women also keep telling us where our G-spot is located. We don't listen to that either.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Right. I'm just saying. Why do we care about what women have to say about what we wear? That's just what they're pushing right now on social media. Listen, I just got hip to sweatpants
Starting point is 00:41:50 that fit properly. I'm not about to put me in a fucking room. What are you talking about here? I think I'm going to bring jean shorts back, yo. They not going to back. They left?
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yes, they left. When? They're gone. What year was it? I know it was funny for a while. No, it wasn't that long. Has it been? You're bugging Roy was it? I know it was funny for a while 2006 No it wasn't that long Has it been? You're bugging Rory Alright 2009
Starting point is 00:42:08 10 they was out of here That sounds about right That sounds about right We should bring them back What replaced them? I still have mine I didn't know I didn't get the memo
Starting point is 00:42:18 I have like four pairs I should have known it was over Because they was trues You would have true religion jeans shorts That's funny Yo there was a whole span of time Where it was Trues Yeah Trues was the game
Starting point is 00:42:33 That was a while ago It was a while ago man It was But I did like those True religion jean shorts Because they were soft Yeah soft denim jean shorts Yeah they were soft
Starting point is 00:42:41 Soft denim jean Yeah So how can that ever be whack to me I'm not talking about like The hard dungaree jean shorts are not bad. Yeah, it was soft denim jean. Yeah. So how can that ever be whack to me? I'm not talking about like the hard dungaree jean shorts. But whatever, I get it. I think we should bring jean shorts back. With the color on the pockets? I thought camouflage shorts was like out.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Nah, that's over with. Oh, look at Rory. Those were still talking. I'm not in the short game. I don't know. You wear some, you're going to know how unpopular if you wear some jean shorts to the pool park. No, no, not jean shorts. I mean some fatigue shorts to the pool party No no not jean shorts Some fatigue
Starting point is 00:43:05 Shorts to the pool party Wait alright I'ma give you bars all day When did cargo shorts And foams go out Like three years ago Foams went out When they started
Starting point is 00:43:14 Too many colors Yeah they started going crazy Yeah with the colors That was kinda cool I started seeing Master P Master P foams It was all types of shit
Starting point is 00:43:20 I seen fruity pebble foams I ain't know what the fuck It was like 2011 There was the white v-neck Cargo shorts And foams Was like The outfit
Starting point is 00:43:28 Once the niggas started Putting out just The galaxy foams Yeah And now you're just gonna Really my nigga You're just gonna Plaster the universe
Starting point is 00:43:35 On the side of the foam I'm supposed to go Crashing the waiting line For this You're gonna raffle this off Yeah they went crazy Sorry Nike They went foam crazy
Starting point is 00:43:41 Sorry Phil Yeah they went foam crazy Yeah it's over Brandon is the only person I know still wearing foams. Brandon definitely has some foams on right now. No, Brandon's looking for foams right now. What the noose just dropped. He the only one on Foamposite.com.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Brandon's at KISS right now. Foamposite.com. Forward slash Brandon. He got a username? Yes. It's in sight. He got? Yes. It's in sight. He got a login. It's in sight.
Starting point is 00:44:07 He created the site. All right, so we're off of phone pauses. What were we talking about? The pool party. That was real funny. All right, back to the pool party. Big girls, it's a one burger maximum. Stay away from the grill.
Starting point is 00:44:22 What's wrong with this nigga, man? Stay away from the grill. No, I'm just playing. No, the big joints can't get that Nah Big girls gotta defy them Yo See
Starting point is 00:44:29 See what I'm saying Why you always gotta play games man Why Why Don't ask me no questions Why I just wanna know Why you play a game
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'm done with him I'm done with him Wait I can't announce the games At the pool party Yeah Maul is hosting speed dating I am hosting speed dating I thought we announced that I can't announce the games at the pool party? yeah Maul is hosting speed dating I am hosting speed dating
Starting point is 00:44:48 I thought we announced that well let's talk about it again do you have your questions ready? not yet but I will I will you know I'm gonna have some I'm gonna have some
Starting point is 00:44:55 fire questions I'm gonna get somebody laid that night I look forward to seeing seeing people Sin said no one can spend the night Sin got me twisted I was gonna say Sin don't run shit I'm going right up to the same room I'm the night Sin got me twisted I was gonna say Sin don't run shit
Starting point is 00:45:06 I'm going right up to the same room Sin got me all twisted I'm always sleeping No fucking shots with me Okay Shut up That's such a lie I was gonna let you get that off
Starting point is 00:45:14 Nah I'm not letting him get it off I tried to mumble it Nah fuck that I will definitely be spending the night Cause night pool gonna be lit Is it? Nigga, yes. Whether you there or not.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Oh, listen, we ain't talking about shit. I'm not fucking with y'all. But we have gotten some really good feedback, though. Yeah. As far as the people that have been in attendance. A bunch of people have been hitting my phone. And I'm just like, damn. Yeah, niggas ain't showing up.
Starting point is 00:45:44 People I ain't spoken to in years been hitting me up. Yo, so do y'all want to get into, Been hitting my phone And I'm just like Damn Yeah no niggas Can't come showing up In their phone closet People I ain't spoken to In years been hitting me up Yo so do y'all wanna get into I was talking about this Earlier with Rory He didn't seem like He gave a fuck
Starting point is 00:45:51 This Steve Harvey email I thought it was pretty funny Only cause I identify With that type of language I didn't hear Well I didn't read it Cause I didn't even know about it When you told me about it
Starting point is 00:45:59 That's wild That was kinda like a big thing Alright so apparently Steve Harvey's a real nigga. Steve Harvey, who just got promoted or he got his own show, The Steve Harvey Show, or some shit. It's in L.A. He used to film his old show in Chicago, right? So he's leaving.
Starting point is 00:46:17 He's going to L.A. Apparently, a lot of his old employees are very angry and upset with him. So they're doing all they can to tarnish his image. So they released this letter that they say he wrote before this season of his show started that says, Good morning. Why are y'all laughing? That's just funny. The way you just read it, he says, good morning.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Go ahead. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back. He says, good morning. Go ahead. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back. I'd like you all to review and adhere to the following rules and notes for season five of my talk show. This nigga's ill. There will be no meetings in my dressing room. No stopping by or popping in.
Starting point is 00:47:08 No one. I'm on board already. No one. I don't see the problem there. No one. So we clear. Please, I'm going to stop. Do not come to my dressing room unless invited. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah. That's a fact. Do not. Do not open my dressing room door. Now, that's funny fact. Do not, Jamal, do not open my dressing room door. Now that's funny, that's funny. If, in caps, if you open my door, expect to be removed. Wait, there's more, there's more, wait, look. Expect to be removed.
Starting point is 00:47:40 My security team, wait, my security team will stop everyone from standing at my door who have the intent to see or speak to me. So he don't want, he not fucking with nobody. I want all the ambushing to stop now. That includes TV staff. You must schedule an appointment. I have been taken advantage of by my lenient policy in the past. This ends now. No more. Do not approach me while I'm in the makeup Wait, he has a doorbell on his dressing room? Yeah, nigga. Steve. Steve is ill. It's Steve.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Steve's ill. I'm seeking more free time for me throughout the day. Do not wait in any hallway to speak to me. I hate being ambushed. I hate being ambushed. I hate being ambushed. Please make an appointment. I promise you. I will not entertain you in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Steve is ill. I will not entertain you in the hallway. And do not attempt to walk with me. Yo. Steve sound like he fed the fuck up. And do not attempt to walk with me. If you're reading this, yes, I mean you. Everyone, do not take offense to the new way of doing business. It is for the good of my personal life and enjoyment.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Thank you all. Steve Harvey. That sounds like it was written by you. I could see you writing some shit like that. See, that's how I know I'm a little off mall. Because I read that letter
Starting point is 00:49:10 and didn't see anything wrong with anything he said. Yeah, no. I know. I know you don't. Wait, so then, so the employees,
Starting point is 00:49:19 so they put this letter out to like tarnish his image and shit. And Steve was like, nah, I wrote that. That's my letter. I meant every word of and shit. And Steve was like, nah, I wrote that. That's my letter. I meant every word of that shit.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Sent it to my new show, too. Yeah, I just thought that was rather real. Oh, while I'm at it. No, I'm not even reading that. I'm not even reading that. K. Michelle put out the rules to her restaurant that she opened. And it was written by her, I think. And it was trying to be cool and fresh.
Starting point is 00:49:45 But nah. I would report on this black youngster story her, I think, and it was trying to be cool and fresh, but nah. I would report on this black youngster story, but I don't know it. I don't know enough about anybody involved. And I heard something about 100 gunshots,
Starting point is 00:49:56 which means I'm clocking out of this one. Sounds dangerous. Sorry. Best of luck to both parties. Yeah, woo! At 37, that's signing up for that one.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Right. Let's see what else. I don't even know why that was funny. Do we want to talk about Monique? Oprah? Monique versus Oprah and Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels. That sounds interesting. I didn't hear about it, but it sounds interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Okay, so this is where I plug the aux up to the phone. Monique was doing a stand-up show. She claims that she has been blackballed. By Oprah, Talia Flair, and Lee Daniels. I was that black dick connected to that black man. So no, I was not blackballed. I was whiteballed. By some black dicks who had no balls.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Thank you, Mr. Lee Daniels. Thank you, Mr. Kyle Perry. Thank you, Mr. Oprah Winfrey. No, baby, I wasn't blackballed. I was fucked up by some niggas who had no balls. And see, I know they like to say, Monique, you talk too motherfucking much. It would kill me not to say the real shit.
Starting point is 00:51:07 All right. I had enough of that. But, yeah, that's what she's saying. Do we care? Y'all don't care. Has she been in any Tyler Perry movies? I think Monique kind of fell out of the rotation when she got on her. Because her whole thing, her whole career was be big, be proud.
Starting point is 00:51:23 You know, I'm a big girl. That was kind of her funny thing. So, as soon as she started losing weight, be proud. You know, I'm a big girl. That was kind of how funny things were. As soon as she started losing weight, it was kind of like, oh, you got it. Well, she was trying to make the transition from the comedian that joked about weight. And it didn't work. To actual talk show shit. Yeah, you can't do that. We already had Jennifer Hudson.
Starting point is 00:51:39 It didn't work. That's what I'm saying. Like, you, that was just, that was crazy. That was just staple. We're not just letting all these big girls get skinny. Yeah, it was like, yo, that was just, that was just feel your whole career. It's like, now you want to be skinny? That's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I love Jennifer Hudson too, but the jokes must fly. Yeah, the jokes must fly. The jokes must fly. Well, that was stand up too. It's jokes. She didn't necessarily mean it, maybe. Unless did she retract her statements afterwards? Did she have to apologize for her jokes?
Starting point is 00:52:11 Who? No, she didn't apologize. Actually, today a story went out of her saying, yeah, I said that shit. You know what I'm telling you, man? I'm telling you, keeping it a buck is coming back. Are you leading the charge, Chief? I'm not going to say I'm leading the charge, but thank you for finally saluting me properly. It's been all day.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Are you chief keeping it a buck? No, Maul. I'm not chief keeping it a buck. What kind of hat is this that you have on? It's called colorblind. Yo, this nigga is getting some sponsored bags, man. Word. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Because he got the straight on camera angle so he can get the hat plugged off. No, this This BJ line BJ And it is a dope hat I can't get shit I was gonna say You don't wear dad hats
Starting point is 00:52:51 You don't wear snaps Yeah no I don't wear dad hats We gonna make a fit Is there one that's not orange Cause I'm too orange already Yeah Like adding more orange Is tough
Starting point is 00:52:58 It's called color blind Got all colors man Dad hats are only cool If you're like not a dad Honestly What You can't be a're not a dad. Man. Honestly. What? You can't be a dad in a dad hat.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Why not? I'm pretty sure dad's wear dad hats. Where? That's where it comes from. Show it to me. Okay. What's going on today? Did y'all hear this story here about, all right, so everybody's doing stupid shit.
Starting point is 00:53:21 This nigga's just stupid. A Memphis musician dying after setting himself on fire on Facebook. I'm not talking about you. Fuck out of here. Chili is all lives matter. Do we care about that? It hurts because Chili
Starting point is 00:53:30 was my first crush ever. I knew Usher was right. I stuck up Usher. The Confessions album makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah, you're looking funny in the light, Chili.
Starting point is 00:53:40 You in land logic. I never... Yo, where's the album TLC promised us? Bunny in LA Chili, you in Land Logic. Yo, where's the album TLC promised us? Relax, man. Come on, man. Come on. Really, Joe? We donated to the budget.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Are you serious? Y'all ain't shit, man. You know what? L.A. Reid probably had them under a contract. Hey, listen, bro. Listen. I think this might come full circle. These jokes right themselves I think L.A. Reid
Starting point is 00:54:06 Still had them signed Yo They gonna shoot me And it's gonna be Because of something Y'all said Oh yeah us All the things you say
Starting point is 00:54:15 I could just see it Alright let's see Rosewood was cancelled Who gives a fuck there Oh Now here's a really good story This was a real good story. Warner Music cuts new deal with YouTube,
Starting point is 00:54:31 and they're not very pleased with the terms. This is a great story on Forbes, and I'll give you just the cliff note version yet again because for me, information is power. And if you if you are in the music business or have dreams and aspirations of being in the music business, I think it's important to be well informed. This reads all of the major labels have been out of contract and on a month to month basis in their licensing agreements with YouTube for some time now. But the first domino has fallen as Warner Music Group reported that it's just completed a new deal with the video service. Even though no terms were announced, it's easy to read between the lines of the announcement to see that Warner Music didn't get much of what it wanted. All right. This goes on to say, ooh, yeah, right here.
Starting point is 00:55:29 All right. This goes on to say, indeed, the music industry isn't very happy with YouTube's royalty payouts, but it's between a rock and a hard place when it comes to changing it.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Should a label refuse to license its catalog to the service, its music will still appear on it thanks to the fact that the user-generated content featuring that music will still be posted the problem here is that instead of a below industry average payout there would be no payout at all since the label wouldn't be able to monetize those user videos as it does now. YouTube is completely shielded from any threat of copyright violation. Thanks to the DC DMCA law that labels user content, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:13 air quotes, safe Harbor for which YouTube is not responsible. This was all, I mean, I guess I knew this, right? But to hear it this way now about, about the best Warner music could do was go for a
Starting point is 00:56:27 deal with a short duration our new deals are also shorter than usual giving a bottom line it says youtube is running the show even in negotiations we already knew that anybody that's doing all that licensing shit they are running the show i'm not going gonna correlate this back to Apple We don't have the time for that But That's the era that we're in The Content is the new record deal Right And
Starting point is 00:56:54 Music I mean Again Niggas is not getting paid The labels are not getting paid So How much money is getting Getting
Starting point is 00:57:02 Funneled to the axe Next five years. Just remember I said it. Well, I've been saying it. Yeah, I will say that. You have been one of the artists for years that have been pushing the Internet and the power of the Internet and where it was headed with music. Yeah, they swallowing all of this shit.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I just thought that that was great. There's a story saying that Chris Rock thinks. I hate that all the stories I get now are fucking half-argued and it complex at some point Chris Rock things did that Kanye album is the best album ever made Oh, yeah, well we it's funny. We had that debate like what two years ago. Yeah, we got that shit well before it got trendy Oh my beautiful. Yeah, my beautiful dog twist another la reed project might I add um Joe What? It was every project. He is is he serious i mean he was there he was the head of
Starting point is 00:57:50 def jam he was there la reed project yes he i think he was in creative control as well yeah i bet he was in hawaii yeah on the MPC might I add Yeah I bet Yeah I brought that To your attention Years ago That I thought You could make a case That My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Starting point is 00:58:12 Is the greatest hip hop album Of all time It is nowhere near my favorite But If you go track by track I think You could make a case That it's the greatest
Starting point is 00:58:20 Hip hop album of all time I will give you your credit You did say that I said that before It became trendy But I don't before it became trendy. I don't think it's trendy to say now. Well, it's been in conversation.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Amongst whom? I mean, you do a show on Complex. I was trying to give credit that it was in conversation, but never mind. Fuck your show. No, fuck that show right this second. No, it was on Twitter after Chris Rock said it. It was a pretty big subject on Twitter that My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Starting point is 00:58:45 was a classic it was during that little classic even in our argument even in mine and your argument years ago which I refuted
Starting point is 00:58:52 everything you said but the one thing that did sound like it made some sense was you don't even remember that argument yes I do
Starting point is 00:58:58 and now he refuted every point it was me and Dill in my old living room no it was me and Corey Dill was not there Oh, Corey Yeah
Starting point is 00:59:07 Same shoulders No, but The point eventually led to That album might be One of the best produced albums I think I think you don't see it One, because
Starting point is 00:59:22 You gotta give it some time Because the rollout was so terrible We heard the whole album Before it ever because You gotta give it some time Because the rollout Was so terrible We heard the whole album Before it ever came out Like it was bits and pieces Incomplete It just wasn't
Starting point is 00:59:30 A good rollout Everyone was over the album When it came out Because we had heard everything And It was just a mess The way it came out Does that mean the rollout
Starting point is 00:59:40 Was bad or great? It was terrible Everything was leaked I like that rollout A little bit Well I mean that rollout a little bit. Well, I mean, Kanye always has creative ones. They made the best of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:48 But I think the album is almost too perfect. Like, it's too polished. It's too great. Rory's generation really thinks highly of that album. I'm sitting here trying to think. That album didn't really... I mean, it was a good album, but it didn't... Niggas our age feel like that.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I can't remember the last time I listened to any song on that album. Like, I really can't. To me, it's like a James Cameron movie. Like, it's a Terminator movie. It has so much money behind it. Like, in the production value, it was amazing. No, I get that. It's like too polished.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I don't know if there's... I get that, yeah. I think, of course, with Blame Game has a lot of emotion on it. But a lot of it is just great production and great raps and a lot of great features. It's just too perfect. That's why I think it went over people. Like, that's why I don't like the Bruno Mars album. It's too polished.
Starting point is 01:00:36 It didn't have any feeling to me. It was overproduced. And I think that's where people in your age bracket don't like that album. But I like it. I'm sorry. Not don't like it, but don't give that album. But I like it. I'm sorry. Not don't like it, but don't give it the credit that's due there.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Do we think that that's better? I give it the credit it's due. Is it better than college dropout, graduation? Is it like... Not to me, but if you were to put it
Starting point is 01:01:00 track for track, it would. It's back to the example of Michael being the greatest basketball player, but he's not my favorite basketball player. If you put to put it track for track, it would. It's back to the example of Michael being the greatest basketball player, but he's not my favorite basketball player. If you put the stats up, I just feel like track for track, music-wise, I don't know what it did with sales, or it didn't really have that much impact either, but I just think track for track could be considered one of the better hip-hop albums ever.
Starting point is 01:01:21 How if it's not even his fucking top two album or top three to me but i understand other people saying saying differently so i mean that's just to me but how if that's not even a top two album from him we could at least agree on that right it's funny i was over the weekend listening to kyle's dropout and how it aged to me because i was 14 it was like the most amazing thing ever but i feel like a kid going back and listening to College Dropout versus My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy blows it out of the water.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Not even remotely close. But you know how the production value... But you just started that by saying a kid. I'm agreeing with you if we're talking about a kid. Pulling to another point of where people rank that. I listened to College Dropout the other day and that shit sound even more amazing to me and then I said
Starting point is 01:02:07 yep that's how a classic should be College Dropout is 100% a classic but you know how it is being an artist Joe certain shit that you create is more it'll always be your favorite
Starting point is 01:02:17 for different reasons versus the fans that listen to it okay time out College Dropout changed to hip hop I agree I'm agreeing with you with that so it's like Listen to it. Okay, time out. College Dropout changed hip-hop. I agree.
Starting point is 01:02:27 I'm agreeing with you with that. So it's like, it's not that that's why that's my favorite, but that classic did so much. I can't just roll with My Beautiful Daughter, Twisted Fantasy. Wow, it was a good album. It was a great, amazing album. I'm not saying with where it should be as far as impact because it didn't have that
Starting point is 01:02:47 and all the factors you put into a classic but I think if you literally go song by song that it's flawless like there's no weak points
Starting point is 01:02:55 in that album no not at all it's phenomenal so now Rory didn't see that oh man now Rory we didn't even talk about that
Starting point is 01:03:02 do we have to care about that I keep seeing people talk about that real Housewives of Atlanta fight with Homeboy. The muscle-bound nigga who fought the old nigga with the gray beard. I don't watch that show, so I don't know anything about it. I do know what you're talking about. But I've seen these two names enough, and the big nigga damn near lost the fight to the 57-year-old guy. Nobody cares. What do y'all do during the week?
Starting point is 01:03:23 We don't watch real Housewives of Atlanta. Definitely not watching Real Housewives of Atlanta. Me neither. So why are you so- Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I see what's going on. Yeah, we out here getting money. Everybody's simmered down.
Starting point is 01:03:34 What's going on? Simmered down, though. Don't try to do what y'all just did. What? Don't do that again, Maul. I don't even know what you're talking about. I know. Don't do that, though.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Don't try to paint me in that fucking Real Housewives of Atlanta corner. No, no, that's not what I was doing. I'm just saying. Yeah, but it seemed that way. You looked a little puzzled as to why I don't have no idea what you're talking about. No, I was about to. If we were puzzled, is that what you did? No, I was about to be defensive and protect myself because my feelings were hurt because
Starting point is 01:03:56 my friends were coming at me. I wasn't coming at you. I wouldn't. But you do watch a lot of TV, though. That's not true. You do. I don't even watch TV. Maybe not reality, but you're a movie miniseries guy.
Starting point is 01:04:06 That's what you do. You're talking about a TV show every day. Okay, wait. You don't watch reality television. That's not fair. TV today is easier to watch. You can watch it from anywhere. Okay, that may be true.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I'm not watching cable programming anymore, really. No, but you watch a lot of shows. You watch a lot of movies. American Greed is my new show. I'm stuck on it. Yeah, you're that guy. I normally watch Channel ID. If somebody is dying on the show,
Starting point is 01:04:32 I'm watching it. And trying to figure out why. And trying to solve it, yes, before the TV show tells me. 100%. I've seen you do that. I think there's a lot of people doing that. I've seen you do that for like six days straight, though.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I was worried about that. Like, Channel ID, this nigga bought about 20 tubs of vanilla Haagen-Dazs ice cream and locked himself in a room. There's a lot of people doing that I've seen you do that For like six days straight though I was worried about that Like channel ID This nigga bought about 20 tubs of vanilla Haagen-Dazs ice cream And locked himself in the room Has been sitting in style For 48 hours
Starting point is 01:04:51 I'm like though What the fuck I'm like did you figure it out He's like yep I got his ass I was like yeah I'm in the wrong decade I have to help this nigga
Starting point is 01:04:58 This nigga's crazy Y'all niggas is haters Alright so what else Is happening Nothing I'm trying to find the list It's over Forbes put out The same wealthiest Hip hop artist This nigga's crazy. Y'all niggas is haters. All right, so what else is happening? Nothing? I'm trying to find the list. It's over? Forbes put out the same wealthiest hip-hop artist of 2017 that they put out every year.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I don't care. It's always Puff and Hov. Right. As it should be. They just flip positions. Oh, I'm definitely watching the Bill Cosby special on Channel ID that's coming up, though. Oh, yeah, they got Bill looking nuts in the streets. Well, not dumb, but Bill.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Oh, the BET Award nominations. Let me look those up. How do we feel about that? I only know Cardi, and I'm extremely happy. I'm happy, too. I only know Cardi and Chance. I didn't read up on what everyone else is doing. I want to support And root for the people
Starting point is 01:05:45 That I know That are nominated Everyone else Good luck to you Who's nominated? Young M.A. what? I don't know The BET Awards
Starting point is 01:05:53 Are like a dope High school talent show Damn A very well produced High school That's what we're doing now Remember the high school Talent shows?
Starting point is 01:06:01 Kiss my BET award goodbye Y'all remember that? Of course. Winner of Rage in the Manolo. You performed at a talent show before? No, I didn't. He got kicked off the track team. How do you think he was doing in a fucking talent show?
Starting point is 01:06:15 He couldn't run right. What are you going to do in a talent show? I couldn't run right. I couldn't run right. That's another debate we had that we should have on this podcast. What? Our college debate that we had on Sunday. You are.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Do you want? What's the college debate? Do it. Tell them all right now. No, no. Tell them all right now. Give me a case. This was your case.
Starting point is 01:06:32 See, look. I defended the other side. All right, so then what was I saying? Remind me. Help me. I want to say along the lines
Starting point is 01:06:40 of college being pointless. Yes. That's exactly what I said. I said I think that college along with the medicine field two of the biggest scams in the country.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I said if my child came to me and said I have no desire to go to college I could understand. And they came to me and said, I have no desire to go to college. I could understand. That part I didn't disagree with.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah, I agree with that. I said, I know so many people who went to college and they left with a piece of paper and debt that is going to take them quite some time to get out of, and it didn't guarantee them the job that they thought they would. And then I can tell you the flip side of that, and I get it that I maybe beat the odds, but I can tell you about a lot of people that did. So I'm going to always argue for the creative side. Rory is part of, I don't know anything about the, you know, I don't want to be offensive to that type of group shit. So Rory argues the college life.
Starting point is 01:07:52 He's adamant. He's in favor of college. His argument to me was you pay for the experience. Can I give my? Oh, I'm sorry. I was first trying to explain to him, and then, of course, it just turned into a debate and argument. I was trying to explain to Joe that his view of college may be that you're really going there to learn. You're supposed to sit in class and get more knowledge, more or less, I think he was saying. But you're paying for the network.
Starting point is 01:08:20 You're paying to be around like-minded people. You're paying to be around like-minded people. If I'm coming from a very negative area, a neighborhood, 18 to 22, I think, is one of the biggest forks in the road for anyone in life. I think a lot of decisions that are made at 18 decide your entire life. So when you're leaving a negative area where people may not have ambition, I hate that word, but something along those lines of positivity, going to college and getting yourself out of a negative environment and putting yourself in a positive one with a bunch of people that have goals to move forward is a great decision to make. That's the biggest crock of shit I ever heard. Why is that a crock of shit?
Starting point is 01:08:58 That's the biggest crock. Because first of all, you introduced taking someone out of bad place. Why are we in a bad place? Why do we start? That was our original argument. No, I was saying then that you were introducing that. Why am I starting at a bad place? The bad place to me is when I get to the debt.
Starting point is 01:09:16 And you're telling me I need the debt to get this piece of paper that you're telling me will give me an advantage in the working field. I don't think that that's the America we live in anymore. Sorry. I think college systematically is a scam that you are now required because a lot of jobs won't hire you without a degree. But I'm saying that if you are in any space at 18, you can go two ways.
Starting point is 01:09:37 It's very easy to go negative 18. Let me put myself where all the positive people are. Yo, I didn't know anything about— There's a lot of negative people in college. Yeah, I don't know where he gets that from. You pick up drugs in college. He got kicked out of college. You pick up drugs in college. You pick up, you know, a lot of
Starting point is 01:09:53 There's a lot of idiots in college. So there's no drugs outside of college? I'm not saying it's not. It's the same thing. It's even. So I don't even think it's a point. No, but you made it seem like college was the safe haven where it's going to keep all of that. It's safer in thing. It's even. So I don't even think it's a point. No, but you made it seem like college was this safe haven where it's going to keep all that. Yeah. It's safer.
Starting point is 01:10:07 No, no. In a lot of instances. Nigga didn't say that. You're on your own. You can be miles away from your parents. You know what I mean? Also a great way to develop into an adult. Yeah, but you can also develop into a lot of negative things, too, that are going to college.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I know cats that went to college. Any situation. My thing is I don't base success on education. I'm not either, I know. But you can do that with any situation. My thing is I don't base success on education. I'm not either, right here. Like, I don't think you have to have the greatest education to be successful. I think that college is. I mean, it helps, but I think that college is more so, you know, like I do agree. It does put you kind of behind the eight ball because you come out, you are in debt.
Starting point is 01:10:41 You're probably going to get a job at an entry level position, any job that you get. You know what I mean? And work your way up, but you're still working your way out of debt it my thing is you i don't even know and i hate to take this here i like trade schools i like going to do something that you know what you want to do but here's the thing a lot of 18 year olds don't and you get four years or at least two two and a half to play with passions and try to figure out what you like and what you don't like find yourself when you're when you're 18 oh let me let me finish when you're 18 and you're not going to college you got to find a job most likely you're gonna have some bills to pay i'd imagine if you don't have the luxury of staying with your parents you don't have time to play with your your passions as much as someone that's in college who's paying a lot of money which puts you in debt
Starting point is 01:11:23 but that's giving you the luxury to figure out what I want to do. There's a lot of opportunities. I didn't know what the fuck an internship was until I went to college. My mans was interning at Def Jam. I said, wait, you could do what? You could just be in college and go just be there and help out? Yeah. I would have never known about that.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And I could have never done that without college. I hate to be the woke guy here but black men are already at a huge disadvantage in the working place of course current infrastructure so your experience and your views coming out of college and how you handle debt and how you're accepted into this society and how somebody like me would have went to college and then came out and handled having debt and being accepted into the working class society is not the same thing. I really don't even think you could argue the point that I'm making.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I'm saying that I'm going to always argue for the creators. I think if you really want to get to the money, get an idea. Get an idea. And I don't need to be in college to get an idea. Don't tell me about the business marketing and the course you took just to fill up some fucking credits. Don't tell me about that. Don't tell me about that.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Don't tell me about it. If you crave information and you inquisitive, you can go get it. A nigga not going to know I dropped out in the 10th grade unless I tell it to him. Know why? I like information. I didn't need to pay somebody to go get that. By 19, I was on to the money. By 20, I was on to the money. By 20, I was on to the money.
Starting point is 01:12:46 By 21, I was on to the money. I'm on to the money. I'm not owing. Joe, no one, well, you would owe your label, but... Yeah, like an idiot. I should have went to college. I should have got a business. I should have went to college so I could have fucking understood what was going on. But not, of course,
Starting point is 01:13:01 what we spoke about then, and you kind of brought it up in your point, not everyone is a talented rapper. I know, Roy. That's a tough thing to say. I know, Roy. But this is the era where you see so many creatives. This is the creative generation. Yeah, I think that's my thing.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I think now is when the creatives are running the world. In the next five to ten years? Yeah, this is the creative generation. You can do anything now. I will say now, of course. I mean, always, but now more than ever, it's in your face. It is less important than it was five years ago. Much absolutely. Which I think is great because I'm not here. I'm not being pro college here.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I'm just saying there is a good aspect of being around that like minded individuals. Absolutely. But of course, there's a lot of shitty people. I might go join a gang then. It's a bunch of like minded individuals there. But we don't want to do that. I'm just saying it's all types of different places Yeah, no, I get what you're saying though I understand what you're saying Cops, everybody can say that Every group can say that
Starting point is 01:13:51 That's why I don't like that That's the thing, bro It is a flip side to college too You can pick up a lot of negative shit Of course Because there are a lot of negative kids in college Absolutely That can't wait to do negative shit once they get away from their parents
Starting point is 01:14:03 Yes, but I will say in that environment, there's a lot of positivity. It is. I agree. And there's negative shit everywhere. Yeah, I agree. And there's not positive shit everywhere. You just dropped that line on me. There's negative shit everywhere.
Starting point is 01:14:15 There is. That's so cliche. Well, that's what you're saying there is in college. You're using that line. You're better than that line. There's no negative shit in this room, though. Hell yeah. Joe is right across from me.
Starting point is 01:14:27 I am negative, so that's true. I felt like there was so much to cover, and then I just stopped giving a fuck. Really? What else? I thought it was. Well, when y'all don't care about shit, I don't really care about shit either. No, I think we kind of covered everything, though. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Nothing funny happening in the music Bryson Tiller's new record There you go Tiller Damn he gets a growl After you shitted on my Bryson Tiller's Sleeper last week That shit was trash I know
Starting point is 01:14:55 That beat was hard The record is a good record It probably is a good record In flow of the album No I think that was Someone else's record That Tiller was featured on Yeah His name was One Take Timmy You missed that part Oh Oh okay in flow of the album. No, I think that was someone else's record that Tiller was featured on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:05 His name was One Take Timmy. You missed that part. Oh. Oh, okay. So that's why I'm judging it that way. I thought that was a Tiller record. So I'm judging it on a Tiller curve.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I missed that whole part. I apologize. Yeah. It was cool. Oh, now that record is on. Now. So when people say Tiller put out three records,
Starting point is 01:15:20 I thought that was one of them. So what's the other two records? It's a Young Thug record, one other one, and then the one I liked? It's a Young Thug record One other one And then the one I liked Oh I'm not doing all that Alright so he's Something tell me
Starting point is 01:15:28 Alright he's still not Out of the park yet more That's a lot of features How do you go from no features To a lot of features? You got one There's one feature There was one feature
Starting point is 01:15:34 Out of those three Some more features coming Of course there is That might be the name of the album More features I doubt that I like the Something Tells Me song A lot
Starting point is 01:15:41 I like that record He definitely stayed In the pocket of Trap Soul Yeah I think he has to At this point I don't want I think that's what the people want I don't know if he should be
Starting point is 01:15:50 Deviating from that too much Rory I think the people want The Trap Soul I think he tried to And that's kind of where The hole up came in No I wasn't suggesting
Starting point is 01:15:58 That he shouldn't I think he should stay With what works for him Right But eventually He's gonna have to change A little bit To show his artistry
Starting point is 01:16:05 You can't give Five trapped souls Isn't gonna work Why is he gonna have to change Why Why is it not gonna work New niggas love If you're trying to be
Starting point is 01:16:14 A top tier artist Yeah you have to show Some development in your sound Isn't he already A top tier artist You saying if you're Trying to grow it Yeah
Starting point is 01:16:20 That's my opinion I think he could sneak Another two more traps Holden Definitely Shit the sound could change How do y'all know that Sounds change
Starting point is 01:16:30 Every so many years That is true That's true So he's gotta adapt He has the sound now I just don't think He needs to be sitting Behind a piano
Starting point is 01:16:37 Singing a ballad anytime I agree with you 100% on that I don't need to hear Don't do that Please don't do that But I think he's a Very talented writer
Starting point is 01:16:44 So if you get the right Producers in there I think he. But I think he's a very talented writer, so if you get the right producers in there, I think he can adapt. I think he's staying with this sound just because it's working so well. I wouldn't change it. Eventually, you're going to have to. Bryson on every song, well, not every song,
Starting point is 01:16:56 but on a few songs, he always has a line or two that is guaranteed to make me laugh every single time I hear it. Never fails like clockwork So now in this new song that I love in the second verse when he starts talking about what his man meant male Intuition starts telling him a topic that you love good Brayson Brayson Brayson, man. What did he say? Let me help you out
Starting point is 01:17:21 How old is Bryson? 23 maybe all right. That's why What did he say? Let me help you out. How old is Bryson? 23, maybe. All right, that's why. 24, 23. Bryson, Bryson, Bryson. Let me help you. If your significant other finds a magnum on you, yes, you're going to have problems. Why is he surprised?
Starting point is 01:17:41 Did y'all listen to that verse? Yeah. Man, where the fuck is the verse? That might be my sleeper pick. Yeah, that should be your sleeper record. What is the verse That might be my sleeper pick Yeah that should be Your sleeper record What you mean that should be My sleeper record You should be
Starting point is 01:17:49 You're trying to get Tory mad at me Fuck out of here Why would Tory be mad at me Wait you don't like Bryson? I don't know I'm just talking shit Y'all gonna talk or something Y'all just gonna read your phone
Starting point is 01:17:59 On the podcast Oh no I was trying to find a list Of BET Oh my god It's not my fault You can't bring a song up in one second in 2017. Shut up. Let me get in this.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Hold up. Hey. What? Stop with that whack-ass ad-lib. I said wait a minute on everything, by the way. I like that ad-lib. A night try hate on my ad-lib. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:25 What has your intuition been telling you? He's pretty Talk about it Yes, Bryson That is why she's upset It's cause you're busy Yo You are the worst dude
Starting point is 01:18:50 That like dissect a bar That's what I'm saying You will make a verse sound A line sound so terrible Yes Wait Yes Bryson He didn't just say that
Starting point is 01:19:00 We know what he said Joe But damn Listen Drake has already bodied this. Drake is the king of this. It's like they used to say, you can't out drug deal, hove, and push. Just try something else.
Starting point is 01:19:16 If that's your thing, do something different. I'm not mad at his song. I like this a lot, but it's funny when I hear it. But that wasn't even a line. Oh. My bad, don't know how to a line Oh He said he don't know How to explain it You are such a fucking asshole
Starting point is 01:19:31 Hey you two people Pat Anybody Anybody You two people Anybody Wait Bryson I hate to break it to you
Starting point is 01:19:38 That's not intuition That's not women's intuition at all Right That's just you fucking it up dogs Right You can't go on tour and be busy And then come back with a magnum in your pocket And not expect a huge argument I'm sorry, Bryson
Starting point is 01:19:51 That was in that way before we started dating Did he do his laundry? That's a Rory line right there Wait, what was my line? Rory is the worst liar to his girl This nigga Bryson just said He just said that was in there way before us the worst liar to his girl. This is crazy. This nigga Bryson just said,
Starting point is 01:20:06 he just said, that was in there way before us. Yeah. I don't do laundry that often. Get it off. Rory.
Starting point is 01:20:13 It might work. Yeah, you got to test the water sometimes. All right, time out. Sometimes you got to quick temperature check
Starting point is 01:20:18 to see how bad I can lie right here. Time out. This leads me to a question for both of you gentlemen. Really not Maul because you have to be in a relationship at some point in your life see he can still lie to his own you're not judging your girl if she fall for the easy lie how i mean did i sell it
Starting point is 01:20:35 how well did i sell it yeah yeah that's that's the key that's did i have conviction in my what is wrong with y'all yeahall Cause some lies have worked for me And I be like I wait till I get along I'm in the shower I'm like that shit worked No you ever You ever know
Starting point is 01:20:51 A lie's not gonna work And that shit work And your whole body Just like Yeah What the fuck Do you know the intricate lengths I have gone to
Starting point is 01:21:00 Back in my lying days To lie Let me tell a funny story About a Joe lie. Wait, wait, wait. No, it's nothing. Am I going to get in trouble? No.
Starting point is 01:21:09 All right. So we was all at the crib one night. Who was we all? So we ain't going to name no names, but we was playing Monopoly. All right. Right. Sounds harmless. So now niggas don't, niggas like, yo, this nigga Joe, his nigga ain't losing no bread.
Starting point is 01:21:24 How the fuck this nigga got all this money? Niggas go to bread how the fuck is nigga those money they just go to the bathroom good decision making they just go to the bathroom y'all was playing monopoly yes because he keep he keep a whole stack stashed somewhere in the crib that's what i'm about to tell you we go to the bathroom ain't no more toilet tissue so you don't naturally look under the sink this nigga got a whole plastic bag full of new Monopoly money. You know how sick you got to be to go buy a new bag of Monopoly money and say, I'm going to stash this around the house? Oh, wait. See, that just reminded me of one of my legendary malls, Why You A Legend, man.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Here we go. Look how fast. See, whenever I tell a story About Joe He wanna come back Go ahead No you know why Cause my memory is bad Okay
Starting point is 01:22:08 So I don't remember Anything about any of y'all Okay I just wake up every day And I know we friends You might need help Y'all are stored in my phone So we just kick it
Starting point is 01:22:19 Right We see each other Tuesdays We rock right But remember fucking We ain't gonna name the name but there was somebody who flew into town right and they had a friend who appeared to be like a supermodel oh yeah yeah like she was like six nine she was that tall and flats right that chick's skin looked like it was made fresh out of leather. She was all right.
Starting point is 01:22:47 And she liked Maul. Wait a minute, mother. Don't just say that like that's a total surprise. What the fuck is wrong with you? No, but I mean she was really on Maul. Yeah, nigga. I was so amazed. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:23:00 That ain't nothing to be amazed about. What the fuck do you mean he was amazed? Nah, she was nice. I've seen Maul do some legendary shit, man. Where is she? I don't know. This nigga Maul would... She found a condom in his pocket.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Maul would be the man for a day, and then the chick would hate that nigga. So I don't know what would be... The man for a day is crazy. I don't know what would go on after that. Chicks ain't fucking with Maul. All right. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:23:22 I'm done. Chicks ain't fucking with Maul. Chicks ain't fucking with Maul. I'm done I'm done I'm done Chicks ain't fucking with mall Chicks ain't fucking with mall I'm done with Brayson Wait how did you go From that to fucking I'm done with Brayson man I just don't know
Starting point is 01:23:34 How you leave a condom This song is hard You can't leave a fucking Magnum in your That's wild No Yeah niggas Niggas ain't doing that no more
Starting point is 01:23:41 What using condoms I agree I'm done with that Here's a random Whoa wait What happened Wait what Wait Rory's being nasty again Yeah Niggas ain't doing that no more. What, using condoms? I agree. I'm done with that. Here's a random. Whoa, wait. What happened? Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:23:48 Wait, Rory's being nasty again? Yeah. Irish nasty. Irish nasty. That should be your, like, your. Irish nasty. Irish nasty. Yo, Irish nasty should be, like. That should be, like, your name when you decide to go out and just be, like, filthy.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Should be like, yo, call me Irish nasty. See, if Rory was smart and he wasn't on his college stick He would come out with a bar of soap or some shit Irish nasty You want to wash yourself with something called Irish nasty? No nigga First of all washing yourself with Irish spring Is that the name of Irish spring? Irish spring yeah
Starting point is 01:24:17 That is the worst soap Yeah that shit is Rory probably owns Irish spring They got that shit at Rikers Yeah you can clean like a project elevator with Irish Spring soap. I do my clean pots with fucking Irish Spring soap. Yeah, that shit is terrible. I seen Irish Spring in a girl's shower one time.
Starting point is 01:24:31 I knew it wasn't going to work. I said, it's either she's disgusting or it's a nigga. Yeah, nah. That's really crazy, but girl. Do y'all go in girls' medicine cabinets? Yeah. Girls got the best lotions. They got the best deodorant.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Best soaps. Yeah. I'm going through a chick's whole bathroom. What's the name? The Roots Picnic is coming up. Yeah. The festival. Wayne's.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Y'all going? Y'all going? When is it? June something. June something. I always say that. And then June 2nd comes. June 3rd.
Starting point is 01:25:03 It's June 3rd. Where is it at? Philly? We should go Joe was supposed to be on the bill But he turned it down So we could have had the whole VIP treatment But now we just got to be regular people You turned it down for real or was that a joke?
Starting point is 01:25:16 I don't know what Rory's talking about I'm a VIP so I'm just used to that treatment I know for Rory something has to be happening Rory's VIP too though I seen him move around In the streets Come on man That Henny Palooza card
Starting point is 01:25:28 Is kind of heavy in the streets It is It is Yeah This podcast too kind of The way it is shit A dude A dude ran up to me
Starting point is 01:25:37 In Boston Three dudes ran up to me In Boston last night At the game Why you ain't text me How that came up What happened No it wasn't beef
Starting point is 01:25:42 They were like Just fans I was waiting for the kicker. So what happened here? You ran up on your boss. No, no, no. I was like, hey. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:25:49 They were fans of the show, but it bugged me out. Did they use the N-word? No, definitely not. You were in Boston. But they were fans of the show. They said to tell you guys, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:57 they love what we're doing. Oh, all right. Boston guys that ran up on them all. Three Boston guys. Oh, I think Trey gave me 20 minutes. I don't even see why that was even the drop there.
Starting point is 01:26:07 What else did we need to get? Do you want to touch the BET Awards? The Cardi? Yeah, Cardi is in which fucking category? Cardi B been looking hot. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Am I just like horny? I don't know. She's best female hip hop artist. No, like she looks, I remember when she first came on Love & Hip Hop and now she doesn't even Almost look like the same
Starting point is 01:26:26 Person anymore Well money do that Yeah like her whole shit Is like Cardi was never whack No no she was never An ugly girl But add money into
Starting point is 01:26:33 Already Yeah like now she's like Like it's like Yo like you kinda look At Cardi like Her and Offset Just put out that video So that shit is hard
Starting point is 01:26:41 A little too many Motivational speeches For me now Just kinda milking it come on man I ain't mad at it relax let people change
Starting point is 01:26:47 their lives man yeah I'm not mad damn but she do look great I'm about to play her record with Offset and Matt Sleeper that shit is dope
Starting point is 01:26:54 alright she's nominated for best female hip hop artist along with Missy Nicki Remy and Young M.A. do we think
Starting point is 01:27:02 all of these people will be in attendance at the BET Awards yeah I don't think Missy will be in attendance at the BET Awards? Yeah. I don't think Missy will be there. Why not? I just don't.
Starting point is 01:27:10 She might be there. She made an appearance recently. Yeah. I think she'll be there. Yeah, so she might be there. YoungMA will definitely be there. Of course. Cardi will definitely be there. Will Nicki and Remy be there?
Starting point is 01:27:18 Chris, we don't care if you're ready to go home, nigga. I don't know if Nicki's there. Chris always start moving around extra fast when he ready to leave. He over there unscrewing the water bottle on him. Chris got a life. Yeah, that ain't no fuck, nigga. Nigga paid to fucking record. He keep dropping shit over there, so we keep looking at him like.
Starting point is 01:27:33 What time is it? Yeah, we understand we were late. Shit to drive. Right. All right, what about it? I have no thoughts on that. On Nicky and Remy being in the same place? I don't know that they're both going to be in the same place.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Remy already made the announcement that any beef or any of that shit is over with. So, I mean, what about it? There's really nothing about it. That's no fun. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be any fun. I'm more so, I'm very amused. I know y'all don't care about this. care about this.
Starting point is 01:28:02 I'm more so focused on Fetty's baby mama Masika and Fetty's ex-whatever-the-light-skin-girl name is. They both still
Starting point is 01:28:11 fighting over Fetty and Fetty got a whole new chick. I gotta salute that guy. That's what happens when you got a bag. When you get a bag? The bag does change things.
Starting point is 01:28:23 They fight over the dumbest shit when you got a bag. Alright does change things They fight over the dumbest shit When you got a bag Alright lastly They fighting over the bag Yeah They are fighting over the bag Lastly
Starting point is 01:28:31 While we're on the bag Charlamagne has a bet That my show will be over soon Charlamagne I mean you might be right Who knows This show won't be over soon Cause I am unstable
Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah Yeah this show's not ending Cause I am I am unstable Yeah Yeah this show's not ending Yeah I mean I think he knows that I think he was just talking about Well no We're gonna be replaced by academics It's gonna be Joe and
Starting point is 01:28:53 Charlemagne Let me explain something And I You know I love what you're doing Throw some claps in there When you talk to him Let him know No I don't know
Starting point is 01:29:00 I got it No no no I meant like aggressive While I'm talking I know we like Charlemagne Yeah Charlamagne. Yeah. Charlamagne, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:11 But there will never come a day where academics will replace me in anything in my life. Let me just say that. Debatable. It ain't debatable. It's not. Act kind of popping in these streets. I don't care about that. He might take your supermodel. I could have went to the Celtics game.
Starting point is 01:29:25 You're right, Joe. That's what I'm saying. He could have three guys run up on him. You're right. Absolutely. I'm talking about on this platform, though. Yeah, no, no, that's true. Nobody's leaving this.
Starting point is 01:29:34 We're doing great. I'm not paying Sean Mann any mind with that. But on the show part, though, he's right. Man, the show will be over. So I don't see it that way. I think you are severely mistaken and not really assessing things correctly. I think you are Severely mistaken And not really Assessing things correctly I think you're smarter than that
Starting point is 01:29:47 But you'll see More will be revealed They say Well I think they were joking A lot back in the day Yeah no Of course they were joking It's all jokes
Starting point is 01:29:55 I had hit Joe When I heard it And was like Nah we gotta start this beef I'm all the way in So fuck brilliant Andrew's tall He is tall
Starting point is 01:30:03 Yeah I would love to see you In Andrew's slap box That don't really mean shit In fighting's tall He is tall Yeah I would love to see you In Andrew's slap box That don't really mean shit In fighting Yeah cause Vlad is tall And boy when I see him We're gonna have a conversation
Starting point is 01:30:12 He's gonna come right down the size No We're gonna have a conversation I mean we're gonna have a good talk Yeah That's it Yeah the thing with tall dudes Cause they got the reach
Starting point is 01:30:20 You gotta get in quick And early Like right under they chin And just give them I don't know if Andrew's hand game is up. Yo, we should have slap boxing at the pool party. No, we shouldn't, Mo. Because I was slap boxing champ three summers in a row.
Starting point is 01:30:32 I'm ready to see if I still got it. That's not happening, Mo. That's not going to happen. Slap boxing is dope, though. Especially in front of girls. Mo went from, we should not have the phones there, so it's all this positive conversation. Yeah, but you have a slap. Yo, let's slapbox
Starting point is 01:30:45 yeah you have a slapbox nobody can't record it nobody can't world star it you know what I mean just keep it in the backyard you think someone's getting smacked in front of a bunch of chicks
Starting point is 01:30:52 and just eating that get your hand game up slapboxing at my mansion yo remember Hot 97 used to do that was you up there smackfest that was my idea
Starting point is 01:31:01 wait your idea was so you want to shoot down my idea but you had the idea to have people come up To Hot 97 And slap each other That was when I was young
Starting point is 01:31:07 And I didn't live in a mansion That was great That was legendary radio shit By the way Smackfest was great Legendary radio shit For those that Didn't grow up in New York
Starting point is 01:31:15 YouTube Smackfest It's hilarious That was legendary That's how you know Something is wrong with my brain No that was great I think that was a great idea I think they should do that now
Starting point is 01:31:24 With people that got Twitter beats I think they got a lawsuit That would be great by the way They just great idea I think they should do that now With people that got Twitter beefs I think they got a lawsuit That would be great by the way They just got a I think they got sued For that shit almost For Smackfest What was the pitch
Starting point is 01:31:31 Can you walk me through When you walked into the office And was like yo I got an idea I'm not doing this Take it from there I'm not taking anything From anywhere Take me from there
Starting point is 01:31:40 I'm not taking anything From anywhere So we're gonna put one guy Over here And then one guy over here. Imagine even talking to the chief like this. And then we're going to say go. Fuck the chief.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Speaking of beef, do y'all want to close with this Twitter beef that was entertaining for two seconds today that I hear started over a rap debate? I think because of Everyday Struggle is what started it. Seriously? They were debating about something on Everyday Struggle. Really? No, but we're going to say it was. Oh, okay. I'm rolling.
Starting point is 01:32:06 This sounds good. Yeah. So Joe and Ak then turned into Stone Marley. No Stone. I don't know the other gentleman. Ski, I believe his name was. Yeah. So the back story was they got into an altercation via the internet.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Stone was not having it. So Stone then got in an Uber With his mans I'm not sure if it was an Uber pool Or a regular Uber Or an XL Oh Chef Jordan First of all Getting in an Uber pool
Starting point is 01:32:31 To go dress some beef Might be the craziest shit ever You with three other niggas in the car You the only one That's going to handle some beef And still don't stop It's Chef Jordan Yeah that was crazy
Starting point is 01:32:41 That's crazy This nigga Ubered To go fight a total stranger And still ain't dropped that video Yo Stone you a G my nigga I ain't gonna lie Yeah he keeping it All the way around
Starting point is 01:32:52 Stone's the man Friend of the show man Yeah he definitely friend of the show For that shit Stone pulls up And Ski does not seem to want to come outside of his house According to Stone's timeline And then Stone went on to then question his membership to an alleged gang because he did
Starting point is 01:33:09 not want the physical altercation. If your affiliation to a gang is ever in question, it's definitely when somebody shows up for a one-on-one. That's when niggas like, yo, you ain't really no gang, man. You show up to my door for a one-on-one? Yeah. Dogs.one? Yeah. Dogs. Why?
Starting point is 01:33:27 Man. What do you mean, why? What's the problem? You're going to lose. They teach you that very early on in life, not to show up to someone else's door. But if you, you know, he didn't just pop up. He said he was going. I got shit.
Starting point is 01:33:40 I'm in my home. Yeah, but he said he was going. You are going to lose if you show up to my door for an unexpected visit, it will not bode well for you. Yeah, that usually doesn't bode well. Is this a threat for the pool party? No, no, no, no, no, no. See, Rory, you don't know. See, Rory just met me.
Starting point is 01:34:00 So he wasn't at the pool party when I told homeboy To stop conducting himself that way And then I had to hop over The fucking balcony That was before I broke my foot And landed like a fucking cat And damn they had to choke money up In that fucking pool Spanish dude
Starting point is 01:34:15 Whatever his name was Spanish man Spanish man you won't be at this one No that won't be happening That won't be happening I'm not catching a case At this pool party It's gonna be real easy breezy for me
Starting point is 01:34:23 We got sleepers? Yeah we do I think Do. We got sleepers? Yeah, we do, I think. Do I have a sleeper? You have the ox cord, I believe. Yeah, but let me see if I have a sleeper. I don't know if I have a sleeper. All right, let me see. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Oh, you know what? Let me go. That Katron song. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, this is old, and Rory has been playing shit off of this shit for quite some time. Oh, the Katron album? Yeah, that album is fire. Which album is this?
Starting point is 01:34:56 I'm trying to tell you that. That album is all the way fire. When I played it as a sleeper on this podcast. What album is this? I'm about to tell you right now, Maul. As soon as I pull up my iTunes. Oh, damn. I used to be able to hit that note.
Starting point is 01:35:15 I highly doubt that. Let me ask you what the fuck you highly doubted. Oh, yeah. I think I played this exact song, too. Oh, no, I played the Fonte song. Yeah, you played the Fonte song. Yeah, Craig David killed this. Kay Trinata featuring Craig David.
Starting point is 01:35:34 This is off the 99.9% album. It's an older album, but it's great. It's a great album. It's electronic music. This is probably the slowest joint on there. Don't worry about the tag. go and throw it in the bag, cause I got it good. And you're the best I ever had, baby, you know that you're better. I got it good.
Starting point is 01:35:58 I'm certain that you're worth it, you deserve it, girl. Don't worry about the tag, always throw it in the bag Cause I got it down Baby, do you remember when we started? Remember me and you creeping around late at night, yeah Yeah, you held me down when I had nothing And that's the reason I'm a spoiler now that I can My hand meets your hand, our love isn't plastic
Starting point is 01:36:24 But here's my credit card not gonna max it the fact is it's no stress baby I got this treat you like the queen in Buckingham Palace yeah don't worry about the tag go and throw it in the bag cause I got it good you're the best I ever had baby you know that you're bad, and I got it good. I'm certain that you're worth it. Rory hating on my fucking ad-lib. Don't worry about that, go and throw it in the bag, because I got it good.
Starting point is 01:36:56 This beat is hard, though. See, he know the beat is hard, too. I got it, I got it, I got it, I got no hands on my watch, I don't clock the time Cause when it comes to me and you, girl, our time is priceless There's no need for hesitation when you're swiping I wanna show appreciation, so I buy it Buy it, go try it Girl, if you like it, feel used to say that you're cool with nightgowns.
Starting point is 01:37:26 The tie dance, quite red, one of a kind. And do anything I can to please my highness, yeah. Don't worry about the tag, go and throw it in the bag. Cause I got it good. You're the best I ever had. Baby, you know that you're bad. I got it good. Are y'all telling girls that they're the best I ever had Baby, you know that you're bad I got it good Are y'all telling girls that they're the best you ever had?
Starting point is 01:37:48 How many times have y'all pulled that one out? That they're the best I've ever had? Yeah, I don't know I don't think I ever have I don't think I've ever said that either What? You're the best I ever had? Y'all have never told a girl that?
Starting point is 01:38:01 I don't think so Y'all are fucking not living life, bro I don't need to do that You gotta get fucking not living life, bro. Wait, hold on. You gotta get that off. You're the best I've ever had. I've never needed to get it off.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Get it off. After I've had it, why would I need to lie? But wait, are you saying it and believing it or are you just saying say it, period,
Starting point is 01:38:15 just lie? No, but I'm saying it at that point that is the best I've had. And how many times have you said that? Who's counting? No, I know a nigga's
Starting point is 01:38:22 go-to is more so yo, I feel like I've known you forever oh yeah yeah no if you say that having sex that's crazy no no i feel like i've known you forever that's that's the first night y'all meet no our chemistry crazy like this is weird it's like i don't usually feel this type of way i might be that chemistry is crazy guy i'm definitely that guy i got that off You know what's funny Who do you have chemistry with
Starting point is 01:38:47 A lot of people Name one Dickhead Who do you have Name one Name one person You gonna stop making Name one is wild
Starting point is 01:38:53 Ayo Joe I'm gonna let you get that off This episode But next week I'm letting you know now We not doing that I'm letting you get that off This week
Starting point is 01:39:01 But next week We ain't doing that I'm letting you know that Right now I'm chilling God damn it Play a sleeper I'm letting you get that off Alright my bad I'm letting you know that Right now on air Alright I'm chilling Alright cool God damn it Just play a sleeper
Starting point is 01:39:08 I'm going super I want one of them BJ's Honestly that shit's hard I got you Even if I'm weird I'm still I'll give it to my kid Trey feel like
Starting point is 01:39:20 He fucking dad hat man Now all of a sudden Alright I'm going super barefoot Just cause the weather is going to be 88 degrees tomorrow. And this is the type of shit. Alex, I'll go with duh for 500, Alex. You've been going barefoot since it was 30 degrees outside, Rory. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:37 This is the same sleeper you always play. That's untrue. Same vibe. Yeah, turn it up. Turn it up, bro. Vanjess, touch the floor. Produced by L.A. Reid. L.A. killed this shit. Same Bob. Yeah, just turn it up, bro Produced by LA Reid I like killed this shit I think Rory got a cousin who voices like this. I've been chilling on this these type of records
Starting point is 01:40:03 This is be 88 degrees tomorrow. I need to hear all this at the pool party. We're going to hear all this at the pool party. Because I got the high score. Chris ain't looked at that camera in about an hour. That shit ain't even on. That shit ain't even on. It ain't even taping nothing Me too, ma
Starting point is 01:40:27 Mm I want to see Rory's dance moves to these types of songs. Is there going to be a dance floor at the pool party? You know Irish Nasty is doing some wild shit. Yo, you know why I love and hate that? I'm going to get 50 million tweets tomorrow if I mention saying Irish Nasty. But wait, tell the truth. You're not Irish Nasty? Damn.
Starting point is 01:41:14 I'm not answering that. Irish Nasty is going to have 1,000 moves. Irish Nasty? Listen, Irish Nasty is definitely in your name now, whether you like it or not. He has all the moves. Yeah, Irish Nasty Listen Irish Nasty is definitely In your name now Whether you like it or not He has all the moves Yeah Irish Nasty Damn
Starting point is 01:41:29 Maul don't end this With some fucking Hardcore Toronto hip hop man I got some shit For y'all niggas It's gonna make you Wanna go It's gonna make you
Starting point is 01:41:40 Wanna go buy a brick Bust that shit It ain't gonna make me Wanna freestyle That's for sure Now with the rates These streaming services Are handing out these days I'm going outside. It's going to make you want to go buy a brick. Bust that shit. It ain't going to make me want to freestyle, that's for sure. Now with the rates these streaming services are handing out these days. I'm going to play a dude by the name of Che Ikru. From Boston, huh?
Starting point is 01:41:55 I don't know where he's from. He ran over me at the game. I said I had to play the record. With a demo and a bag. I honestly don't know where he's from. I bet. But this is off his project called... He's from the Boston Garden.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Yeah, or he's from the wizard. Y'all having fun? Y'all having fun? Cool. Let me get my shit on. He's from the wizard. You may know him as Brandon Jennings. What if he was on the wizard?
Starting point is 01:42:22 Something's making me spitting. Nah, this is nice. He's kinda like, it's R&B. Alright, let's see. It's off this project called Berries. It's called 2AM. I love all records titled A Time in the AM. Imani think everybody stole that from him. Sorry, Imani. This project is dope. I've been listening to it all week. I'm in.
Starting point is 01:42:54 I'm in. I'm that guy. It sounds like a noise I like. Yep. This is going good. This project's hard. Ten seconds in, three noises I like. Yeah, this project's hard. 10 seconds in, three noises I like. I'm buying it. Oh yeah. I'm all tricked us.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Mm. I just wanna make up No more messing up your makeup Tell me how you feeling baby I'ma keep it run, tell you that you all I got Catching all these feelings lately 2016 and it's time to shoot my shot I ain't even trying, I know Tears always running down the side of your nose Fighting every time that I be driving you home All the sides gotta go, you got guys like a horse Yeah, you know that Ain't another man who gon' control that I was never one to go at all This shit hard, but he still about to eat these jokes
Starting point is 01:43:54 He still sound like Bryson Tiller Tell me what you really wanna do Tell me what you really wanna do Girl, I think it's time for me and you Ain't nobody do it like I do I'm screwing like a screw And girl, I see what you can do Right I can change things, I ain't with the gang, gang I'm just an amazing, he's in my name, he's in my name, name Two in the bar, yeah Baby girl, I'm making you more, yeah Love it how you do it, so strong, yeah
Starting point is 01:44:32 Tell me, baby, do you want more, more, yeah Do it some more, yeah I know what you coming here for, yeah Tell me, baby, do you want more, yeah Tell me, someone give you some more, more, yeah Two in the bar, yeah Baby girl, I'm you want more, yeah Promise I'ma give you some more, more, yeah Two in the bar, yeah Baby girl I'm making you more, yeah
Starting point is 01:44:49 Love it how you do it so strong, yeah Tell me baby do you want more, more, yeah Do it some more, yeah I know what you come here for, yeah Tell me baby do you want more, yeah Promise I'ma give you some more, more, yeah Here we go again That's Che-E Crew, 2AM off his project called Berries. Is the project hard?
Starting point is 01:45:12 The project is. Listen, I've been listening to this for the last week. That's all I've been listening to. I'm going to check this out. That song was really, really good. Yeah, Che-E Crew. That sounded like my type of vibe. No, his album, this mixtape is crazy.
Starting point is 01:45:26 That's your vibes, chief? You know what this reminds me of, this mixtape? When Jhené dropped Sailing Soul. Like how I listened to that. That was all I was listening to. Man, Jhené owes some fucking music. Sailing Souls was like, that was the Bible. That shit was crazy.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Yeah. I'm not going to say she owes us music, but I understand what you're saying. Anything we're missing? Get the fuck out of here. Trump is selling off all the secrets for top dollar. What else is happening? What are you going to do? Think we covered everything?
Starting point is 01:45:57 Yeah. He's on his way to impeachment. Then the real problem happens. Yeah, Pence. So that's cool. We'll be back. Anything happen this weekend good? Memorial Day weekend soon.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I know we're about two and a half out. Nine. Not even. Henny Palooza on Saturday. We're about two weeks out. It's Coney Island. Coney Island on the Saturday of May 27th. Henny Palooza, Coney Island.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Sounds like it should be a good time. Yeah, we announced Kid Capri as our headlining DJ. We have one more announcement that we'll make probably towards the end of the week. But it should be good. I'm excited. It's open bar everything, not just Hennessy. When is it, Saturday? Where at?
Starting point is 01:46:32 May 27th in Coney Island. Tickets? Same spot? Same spot. Any day you and Cam want to get me my prices on the Jenga, this would be fucking awesome, these guys over here. Are you announcing the Jenga and Twister For the pool party
Starting point is 01:46:46 No I'm not Announcing anything Just yet Not yet But I am excited About D-Nice coming So we'll see One more plug
Starting point is 01:46:52 Is Miss Milan gonna be there DJ Miss Milan At a pool party It's Mech and D-Nice I don't think so Unless she does A surprise set Yeah
Starting point is 01:47:01 I want her to do A surprise set She's great I bet you do Want her to do A surprise set A few surprise sets Here you do want her To do a surprise set A few surprise sets Here we go
Starting point is 01:47:07 Alright I'm gonna get out of here now What were you saying Rory? I have one more plug Trapping Anonymous Which I put a lot of you guys on That love that podcast Doing a live podcast At SOBs
Starting point is 01:47:16 In June Tickets are available now At SOBs.com Bag talk Speaking of podcasts There's one particular podcast I'm waiting on to drop Hadn't dropped yet Oh I know which one you're talking about Hadn't dropped yet I subscribed Talk. Speaking of podcasts, there's one particular podcast I'm waiting on to drop.
Starting point is 01:47:26 It hasn't dropped yet. Oh, I know which one you're talking about. It hasn't dropped yet. I subscribed. I refreshed my podcast shit. Oh, that didn't happen? It didn't drop yet, but. You know what's funny? I would think that would have dropped and our group chat would have been a little wild.
Starting point is 01:47:37 You know what's funny? I was just saying that kind of went under the radar if it happened. Like, we didn't talk about it. No, it didn't happen yet. She getting the streets ready. Damn, son. She really letting it sit. Yeah, when you got that fire, she making sure the rollout is right. You know what I mean? If it happened Like we didn't talk about it Nah it didn't happen yet She getting the streets ready Damn son She really letting it sit Yeah
Starting point is 01:47:46 When you got that fire She making sure the rollout is right You know what I mean The rollout for a podcast is funny Listen What you want niggas to do man Until the next time Until next week
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