The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 118 | "Two & A Possible"

Episode Date: June 28, 2017

Apologies on the hiatus, but we're back to regular scheduled programing. This week we discuss Prodigy, The BET Awards, Migos, Meek vs SB, Power, Hov's tweets, Chance, Khaled, 2 Chainz, and more!!! Get 20% off your first pair, plus FREE shipping at www.MeUndies.com/JOE Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Mal: Vado "VADO" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xnz-XCF2sU Rory: Devin The Dude "Are You Going My Way" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJJDGYjgqLA Joe: Tank "When We" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYdCZrhqok

Mic check, mic check, mic check. 1, 2, 1, 2, we live? Are we live? Pat, give me a yes in there. Yes, sir, we are live. Yes. We're starting with new edition. Because I'd like to actually honor the real new edition. Yes. Yeah. So y'all weren't with me. But this was one of the greatest performances that I've ever seen in my entire life.

You were actually at the awards? Hell no. Oh, you're talking about just seeing them in general? I gave them tickets away so fast. I gave them tickets away fast. And the motherfucker, wait, hold up. Yes, I know it's been a while. We ain't even introduced this motherfucker.

What episode is this? 118? Yeah, 117, 118. Damn, we slipping. They're gaining on us. Who? The other networks7, 118. Damn, we slipping. They're gaining on us. Who? The other networks. The other networks.

Tidal launched their network. We got to talk about that, too. Yeah, they did. Without us. This episode 118. Maul is mad at me. Look at Maul. Look at Maul ready to snuff me like Migos.

All right. Joe Budden Podcast, episode 118. I am your host, Joe Budden. Across from me is Rory. To his left is Maul. Unfortunately, we are on a time crunch today because I'm making moves out there. I'm getting out of here. Getting out of here on you niggas. I'm taking jobs. Corporate Joe. You are corporate Joe.

I'm aligning myself with these corporate companies. I don't care. I don't care what y'all say. Wearing white button-ups to the top. Yeah. You know, I'm thinking those things are meant to be worn to the top or i just don't feel cool with it unbuttoned anymore it depends the shirt i just feel better that was a nicer shirt than it looked i was a little mad about i gotta send it back to and i saw you were wearing sins jeans oh yeah i got a lot of compliments on my jeans and i will tell you guys before you make jokes i I do plan on buying one more pair of those jeans.

Listen, man. Those ball make. Just wear them at red carpets. All right, listen. Don't wear them like in the backyard. Let me tell you how phony I am.

Tell me why those jeans are bad in hip hop again. Remind me. Maul, now hold up. Before I do this, and this is totally off track of what I wanted to talk about,

Rory, but whatever. Maul was one of the first Guys that Of my friends That was on the tight Sweatpants wave And boy I killed you For a long time Yeah you did

Maul is more stylish than me Everybody's more stylish than me But what's wrong with these jeans? The ones you had on? Yeah the tight ones The like spandexy ones And they are made With some spandex

Everything you just said Is just wrong They were like jeggings They weren't They weren't even tight jeans They were They were something But I wasn't mad at the jeans

They're really comfortable Number one And number two You can really move in them That was what I was checking for If I couldn't be mobile In them On a red carpet

I didn't want to wear them And they look pretty good Which was foreshadowing For events Not foreshadowing I've been telling foreshadowing. I've been telling complex and academics for about a month and a half that at the BET Awards, that's

where everybody tries to get tough. Really, any awards, that's not the Grammys. That's where everybody's a tough guy. What do y'all think about Safari? I don't want to call that a jump because I was born before 1990. Well, I was born in 1990 and I don't think it was a jump the word jump is alarming if you were born at a certain time

once uh once safari's man hopped in it was a fair fight it was two on two somebody told me that they didn't think safari was able to see his man i don't think down there fighting oh you're rolling with that too no no i'm sayingari was able to see his man i don't think down there fighting oh you're rolling with that too no no i'm saying right at the beginning when his man first hopped in i'm never leaving my man ever i'm never ever under any circumstance leaving my man i don't care that's me not leaving my man you're not fighting by yourself while i'm down the block making sure my jewelry is on no was that his man's though was that ever confirmed or was it just a good Samaritan because he was by himself He walked out. He was by himself good Samaritan. What's the merit? What's the merit? Is that good?

You know what though that nigga didn't look small Yeah, and safaris not small But then again homeboy that said it on Safari Is not small either These was a bunch of Big niggas fighting Yeah but I mean It's I don't know man That whole situation

Is just corny to me Fighting No not fighting Fighting isn't corny I mean what you fighting for Is corny But I mean if that You know

In talking to people I don't know if that was Actually sent from Meek Like if he green lighted that Or not But if he did I don't know if that was actually sent from Meek. Like, if he green-lighted that or not. But if he did, I think that's corny. And I fuck with Meek heavy, but I don't think that was corny. Only because Safaree been asking for the one-on-one for so long. But what was the last time you saw a fair fight?

Maul. Or a one-on-one. No, it's cool. If you're not going to give a nigga the one-on-one, cool. Yeah, but don't jump a nigga. Like, don't send niggas to... So what should you do? Nigga, leave it alone. If you don't want the one-on-one, why are you don't send niggas to... So what should you do? Nigga, leave it alone.

If you don't want the one-on-one, why are you going to send niggas to jump somebody? Nah, I'm all... That's not really the case. So you cool with a nigga just sending niggas to jump somebody if he been asking you for the one-on-one? I don't want to say that this has anything to do with Meek because Meek's on probation or parole.

Yeah, like, I don't believe it. So I'm going to speak hypothetically here. If I'm Meek, and if I'm gonna speak Hypothetically here If I'm meek And if I'm on probation Or parole And if the parole officer Is a hard ass Like the rumors were saying

Nah It's shown that way Through his case Then And I have a beef with somebody And I'm high profile enough To have My uh My hometown goons with me,

and a nigga's been talking shit online for the past two years saying it's going to be violence when he sees me. What should happen, Mo? You from the Bronx or uptown? I don't really know where you're from. I don't know much about you. Nothing should happen. I would leave it alone at BET weekend

in LA when there's a million cameras around and everyone's watching nothing should happen if you saying all of that nothing should happen how old are you?

I'm 35 alright should nothing happen if you're 25 nothing should happen period with what you just said being paperwork

you're on probation all of this other shit like if your niggas is with you yo no they said somehow some way it comes back there was a rumor that they allegedly said it on quentin miller right they said it on beans clearly that's not what they rolling with they're not rolling under that that model that you're talking about they're setting it on niggas. That's what's happening. The chasers are chasing niggas, yeah.

So if I'm Safari, why the fuck am I standing around outside talking to DJ Self? Why is Safari- What do you mean? It's BET week and everybody's standing outside somewhere. Mo, what's up with you, man? What do you mean? He was on his way to an event. It was outside of an event.

Cars was pulling up. That was where the cars- That was his way to an event. It was outside of an event. Cause was pulling up. That was where the cause, that was the drop off point where he was. Maul, if he has been threatening meek for, for two years, a year, however long it's been is what I'm saying.

And now it's BET weekend and you know, these niggas are here and you are too deep. Why are you stationary anywhere? Well, it looked like, like I said, it was the drop-off point or the pickup point for whatever event they was at. Why is he at an event? So he can't be at an event? Too deep?

I mean, yeah. Come on, Maul. Why not? Come on, Maul. Come on, Maul. I don't know why you're acting sophisticated today. What you mean? Come on, Maul.

Why you can't be at an event too deep? That's not how to move, Maul. That's not how to move, Maul. That's not how to move, Maul. If that's how he wants to move, I'm saying I wouldn't move like that. That is not how he should be moving is what we are saying. But you're saying why?

I'm agreeing with you. I don't condone violence. I'm not with none of that. I'm with none of that. I don't agree how either side's moved in that situation. If it had something to do with Meek. I don't agree with either side.

Meek went in the club to take fucking pictures and with meek i don't agree with either meek went in the club to take fucking pictures and chill yeah don't ask don't act like a celebrity rapper or anyone has not been arrested or got sued or in trouble for something that their security did or their mans in them i would be afraid of that so i would be afraid of safari uh telling the police well he said it on camera he said meek's just jump me Which is like Telling the police by the way Because the police Are on Instagram That goes back to what I'm saying

With all this new This new age shit man It's like Niggas that happens That's why I'm saying You can't do that In BET weekend No matter what

But my thing is If that happens Why are you getting Right on social media with it And the way that camera Was stationed It looked to He caught Safari

At the perfect time Then panned over to Meeks Then panned right over To the jump It looked like That camera was stationed, it looked too, he caught Safari at the perfect time, then panned over to Meek, then panned right over to the jump. It looked like that camera was set there, which is also a little weird. There was a report that there was an incident with A$AP Rocky at the awards. Yeah, I heard one tweet maybe. But details didn't come out about that. And A$AP looked amazing at the awards. So how badly could he

have been attacked or whatever the word was there. Who's beefing with ASAP? He don't bother nobody. I don't know that. There's violent clips of ASAP walking around. Oh no, I know that.

I'm just saying Rocky in particular. And then it was me. And then it was me. No, it was Chris Brown too. Well, it was me first. Yeah. And then it was Chris Brown. And it was me. No, it was Chris Brown, too. Well, it was me first. Yeah. And then it was Chris Brown.

And Chris had to defend the light skins. You know what, Maul? Fucking the Meek Safari shit. Remember when we was in the club and I was trying to fight J.R. Smith? And then you stopped me, but I was saying it was about principle. And then you were saying, but it's going to look like it's over a girl. That is the same exact thing with Meek and fucking Meek

and homeboy Safari and Chris Brown and well no that's just about a girl I was about to say I don't know what principle

you're talking about with that one that's 100% that's just about a girl Chris I mean but Chris was chilling I don't even know

nothing about that I don't have too much no but that's why I'm glad that video came out with Chris just leaning on the floor. Chris was chillin', taking pictures with fans. But he doing what he was supposed to do. Like, I'm not, listen, man. I'm not about to sit here and act.

But why was anybody rowdy then? It was the entourages. Do that shit, man. It's always the entourages, man. Which, like I said, they're responsible for their entourage. You got to know who to move with. Because a lot of people will smack somebody for you just to show you that they're rolling for their entourage You gotta know who to move with Cause a lot of people Will smack somebody for you Just to show you

That they're rolling for you Which ends up being dumb And worse for you In that situation Like you gotta roll with smart goons Not ones that you know Will just pop off Right

Cause when you just Oh oh that's the person That was talking shit on Twitter Let me smack him To show this dude That I can roll with him And now you gotta It's stupid

It's normally the entourage But why Yo it's only with us, though, man. It's only in our, like, you know what I mean? Like, this doesn't happen, like you said, at other award shows. It's only us, man. It's only with hip-hop. No.

Hip-hop? No. These R&B motherfuckers be beefing, too. But they don't get staticky like that, though. Yeah, but hip-hop typically comes from an environment where that happens. That's some real R&B niggas. No, I hip hop typically comes from an environment where that happens. I'm talking about more like in the pop world

when I'm thinking about niggas wilding at awards and shit like Taylor Swift and Katy Perry. It's only, it's like we got so much, we just got so much animosity in hip hop.

Like niggas is extra sensitive. Yo, did this nigga go and get baptized while I was going to something? Why the fuck is this nigga so holy today? What are you talking about? No, it's real shit.

We just extra sensitive in hip hop now You can't say nothing to nobody Niggas is mad Like what era Did niggas grow up in Like I grew up in an era We go outside Niggas is snapping

On each other Talking shit That's part of it Like if you got sensitive When niggas is on the block Snapping And you got like real mad You was a clown forever

Niggas like Oh yeah see a clown That's true You know what I'm saying So I come from that My shit was popping off At the Source Awards it may have been

over a different it was like over serious shit though that was over serious shit from the Source Awards I take full responsibility for how weird my generation is

but at the same time I'd like to say we don't know how a lot of the 90s rappers would have acted if they had social media no I always say that I always say that

like if Pac had Instagram or Twitter, Big had... A lot of people wouldn't have came off so cool if they had social media. I get that. But I'm talking about more so, like, it's just when you try to talk to some of these, like, new era rappers now, like, and you say something slightly, like, that they might take the wrong way. And it's, like, it's extra, like, they want it to be beef. And it's like, it's extra like, they want it to be beef.

And it's like, fam, nobody even came at you. Like, what is all the sensitive shit about? It's ego, because everyone retweets it and everyone has a comment about it. I can't get used to that, man. I'm sorry. That shit is crazy to me. It is trash.

But the time you talk about where you can go outside and crack on your friends and niggas not get sensitive, that was a very long time ago. This is a very new and different generation. I get that, man. There's still circles. I have a question.

I have a question sort of in this topic, and I was forced to think about this over the weekend. Where do or did all the newer generation kids learn how to fight? On Worldstar. Looking at Worldstar clips. I know that sounds like a silly question But if you're glued to your monitor Or your phone

Or your computer And you're not really going outside very much Then where are you learning how to fight? On Worldstar Looking at Worldstar Older brothers in your house? I don't know I think I can take

Two and a half of Migos by myself Yeah? But I'm a little arrogant two and a half of Migos by myself. Yeah. But I'm a little arrogant. I'm not familiar with them. This is also the gun era, by the way. Everyone got a Draco. They don't want to fight. So that's what everybody's telling me about Migos.

Apparently, everybody views Migos as very tough guys. I must not be that familiar with their music. I still look at them like the kids. How old are they? Probably 25. 25. Somewhere in that realm. Yeah, that's kids.

You're a kid. You're 25. So they've inherited a yachty beef toward me. But what is the yachty beef, though? I'm not sure, Mo. It's different times with me. So if we're going to talk about it, let's talk about the whole thing. Was there a conversation before the interview started?

Well, in the morning. Because I'm going off academics timeline. Academics is one of the biggest pussies I've ever seen in my entire life. He should never comment on anything that has to do with physicality. But we knew that already. I don't fault him for being a pussy when you know he's a pussy well you gotta stop talking sometimes when you're a pussy

is what I'm saying I've been saying that and Charlamagne killed me for saying that I agree I agree there's nothing wrong with being a pussy but you gotta be pussy

to the corner sometimes just shut up but no I had a conversation with with P who manages or has some affiliation with he's part of QC But Now I had a conversation With With P Who manages Or has some affiliation With

He's part of QC Which is in charge Of Migos And Yachty Together Quick question How old is Academics? 27

27 With some arrested development Okay Clearly Okay So I So he's He's responsible for Migos

And Yachty I'm not sure I can't Migos and Yachty I can't tell you what Yachty's beef is honestly I think he dislikes the way that his likeness is spoken about on the show Even after he's been on the show But to me I never really ever want to talk about him ever I don't care I don't care about him But my thing is

Because after Yachty did the interview with y'all, I kind of liked him as a person. Me too. I didn't know much about him before. Me too. So I don't understand where the issue would be coming from after that interview. But then his album came out and the narrative was he didn't do well.

Okay. And then academics got up there talking about how he didn't do well. Okay. And then they put out the guy P on Instagram, put out the long Instagram post talking about how they made $13 million in 16 months or whatever. And that was confusing to me because I'm like, if you've made this amount of money,

then why the fuck do you care about this shit? About the sales. Yeah, why do you care? Why are you even paying this shit any fucking attention? I will never get that part but i'm sure that the target uh brand manager is not watching everyday struggle thinking maybe we should yeah but so academics did that homeboy post that so for me that lets me know how yadi and his camp are feeling about the show and what is said on the show. Academics want to still, he's still, like, bright-eyed.

So he still want to text Yachty and, like, be friends and, you know, he want to do all of that. So now that that has stopped, that's what I'm assuming Yachty's beef is. I'm assuming. I don't know. I don't know. But anyway, the morning of, I need some socks. I go to the mall.

I see the dude, Pete. Pete says, yo, I need y'all to lay up off a yachtie. Okay. I say. He was walking hand in hand in the Beverly Center? No, we were in, what was that store I got those socks from? Overpriced dress socks, by the way. But anyway, no, it was a store.

So he said, lay up off a yachtie. You know my memory's bad. So I say, do I know you? He says, yeah, you know me. I need y'all to lay up off Yachty. We have a conversation. At the end of it, I give him my word and say, you know, I never want to talk about Yachty. We're agreeable here.

So, yes, great. Kudos. And that was the end of that. But I had been having behind-the-scenes conversations with Complex just about interviewing Migos, period. Why would anybody want to interview migos i've never seen a good migos interview in my entire life ever well they have a reputation of not giving great interviews but that's my fucking point but they're still from a media i don't give a fuck i'm telling you why other people would give a fuck oh no i know why migos oh no i know know why they're very popular they make great music you're at the BET Awards I'm not of that ilk

you're dressed well I'm not of that I'm not from that I'm sorry but you're a media man yeah you're a media guy now which means what? which means you have to

accept certain things no the fuck that's where you got media man fucked up no I do not well what's your what's your new hat that you're wearing

no I do not ever have to talk to fucking Migos. If the show requires that they want Migos on, you do. It would behoove you to do so. Well, I did. And clearly it did. I did, but only because we're at the right carpet. That's what I just said, Joe. That's exactly it.

It's the BET Awards. He's not saying have it to Migos. Well, and they wanted to talk to Migos. Okay. So cool. Right. Talk to fucking Migos. I don't care. I don't have any plans to it to Migos. Well, and they wanted to talk to Migos. Okay. So cool. Right. Talk to fucking Migos. I don't care.

I don't have any plans to talk to Migos. So Migos get up there and they shady from the jump. They ain't dapping niggas. They got attitudes. Right. Really? This is what y'all wanted to fucking interview? Mm-hmm.

They gonna come up here and give us their fucking ass kiss? But cool. All right. Can I stop you right there just for a second? That's their personalities from what I've seen. You have done press runs, and your attitude sometimes is not the best. Do you see where they're coming from? I think that's where the problem is with you.

See, you don't know how to because you're an artist too, right? So you don't, it's like that's why people feel a way towards you when you say certain things in your interviews now with artists, because they looking at you like, nigga, you are artists. You sat in this chair and I'm in like, you know how we feel about this media shit and how the shit can come across. People hold you to a different. It's like, come on, my nigga. And I don't know if Migos is that way at all, but I'm saying, could you understand as someone that has done that in the past how they could feel that way? Like I gotta sit down, I gotta answer how I feel about the awards, whatever, whatever. And then again, you're an artist, you know. Well first of all,

Migos is bigger than I've ever been. Of course. So I was confused as to why they were even doing interviews in the first place. Well it's the BET Awards. They're performing, everyone does a quick little interview on the, for the most part. There was a lot of people At the awards That did not

That skipped the interviews All the niggas you would think Would skip them Skipped them They had a lot to do With the awards So I think It was fine

I mean that's a moot point They did the fucking interview They wanted to do the interview But I wasn't going to say a word to them I gave it to Academics Who's bright eyed And has never been In this environment

On this red carpet Dealing with this type of commotion Academics is ignoring the producers. They're screaming to wrap it up. He's doing all types of shit. And then in the middle of the interview... How much wasn't on there? Obviously it was Ellis. It was a lot of it. How did the interview begin?

It was more than that. It definitely looked like it was coming. It was much more. It was much more awkwardness. It was much more tension. In the middle of the interview the gentleman that I spoke to in the morning intervenes to say, and me and Joe, he don't know what's being said in the interview. He just jumps in.

Yeah, me and Joe had a talk this morning. All that Yachty shit is dead. Huh? That wasn't. That was a little odd to just bring up. Nah. I mean, well, yeah, you're right. I did say that the Yachty shit.

I'm never saying nothing about Yachty. But the energy is a little different now. Now I'm putting that with the mall. Now I'm putting that with Migos has come up. I'm putting that with Yachty storming by, looking mad, not saying hi back to academics. You're just putting all this shit together. And I'm putting complex And academics Wanting to interview

These niggas so fucking bad That I never wanted to talk to In the fucking first place Now I'm sitting here And I gotta stare at these Fucking accessories And fucking shiny shirts Is that what you're telling me?

Because I've decided To change my career course? Suck my dick That's what comes with it Hell no No, no That ain't the way That I do my media

I don't want to talk To nobody that don't want to sit there. No. But that happens, though. No, it's not going to happen is what I'm saying. That happened. Past tense on a red carpet. Future reference. No, no, no, no, no.

No, all that complex academics being giddy-eyed, just wanting to talk to people that's famous just for the simple fact they're famous? No. Nah, sorry, Maul. No, I mean, I hear you, but I'm just saying there's certain things you have to accept as this new media guy. How do you filter that moving forward? Because there were people that you guys had great interviews with. And I feel like y'all could have had a great interview out of that.

Well, we got a great interview out of it. No, you got a great moment out of that well we got a great interview out of it no you got a great you got a great moment out of that in in in my world oh no that's a great interview that's a great interview that moment that time that encapsulated space that's a great interview that was about as great as we was gonna get from these niggas who don't want to talk in the first place yeah i can see that but i'm saying, I think a lot of artists, they look at you because you are an artist. So they're like, come on, though.

You know how it is. Some days you might not be going through some real shit behind the scenes. You don't flex it down in the first place. Yeah, but that's not the case. These niggas just inherited a beef from a nigga that I don't even listen to or know anything about. And I still don't understand what the beef is. I think Yachty walked away from that looking really good.

Yeah, but when you don't sell maybe like you were projected to, then— So they're trying to equate that to the interview? No, I mean, that's just me speculating. Oh, God, man, you can't—that would be just not smart for them to speculate that. I'm saying, like you're saying, nothing has happened since he came up and did the interview. Nothing happened since then, except for academics talking about the numbers. So I have to assume that whatever his problem is, it's related to academics talking about the numbers so i have to assume that whatever his problem is it's related to academics talking about the numbers or the numbers period i don't

care enough about it to continue to discuss it well how'd the whole shit get diffused because obviously it cut off with the cool it didn't get diffused they they came over complexes editing team is amazing homeboy in a little blue and white shirt that looked like he trying to get aggressive with me is getting aggressive with our producer Lyric I saw him elbow He's pulling away from her like he about to do something My hand is up saying They saying yo what's good

What's really good what's going on Nothing Yo what's up what's your problem Nothing What you want to do Nothing So then Pete comes over he storms over It's just a bunch of it's just aggressive action So then Pete comes over He storms over

It's just a bunch of It's just aggressive actioning Then Pete comes over Yo yo what's going on I keep saying nothing I keep saying nothing See you know what it is man Pete we just

What? It's just The cameras are on Yeah But that's my point I'm not with all that I just seen this nigga in the mall In the morning People just don't. What? It's just. The cameras are on. Yeah. But that's my point. I'm not with all that. I just seen this nigga in the mall in the morning with my fucking basketball shorts on.

If it's something, tell me it's something early. Don't come with it on the carpet with the cops. I'm not with all of that. I'm not with it. I'm not with all of the posturing for cameras. That's not me. It's never been me. I do not care that y'all are superstars. I don't.

No, I get that. The young niggas are saying I'm a hater. I do not care that y'all are superstars. I don't. No, I get that. The young niggas are saying I'm a hater. I'm tired of that narrative too. Well, I mean, it's going to come across that way. Yeah, but it shouldn't. I fuck with Uzi. I fuck with Ray Schremer. I fuck with Vince.

Who else? It's only the... Who do I not fuck with? No, but the funny shit is... Triple X I fuck with even though he keep running around doing stupid shit. But when the clip is fucking one minute and it's you getting up, dropping a mic and going, No, but the funny shit is- Triple X I fuck with even though he keep running around doing stupid shit. But when the clip is fucking one minute and it's you getting up, dropping a mic, and going, what the fuck?

People, you got to look at perception. Joe's hating again. It's going to come across like that. After the Yachty shit. Joe's hating again. When has Joe ever cared about how it comes across? No, it's not about you caring. I'm just telling you how it's going to come across. You mentioned that everyone's saying you're a hater.

The funny shit is, I may be be wrong But I think You fuck with me Goes to him I do Yeah so I didn't I just didn't understand that That whole shit was weird They're inheriting a beef They're young niggas

It's fine They weigh about 400 It's definitely not beef It's not beef Tension Yeah it's just Tension I guess

Yeah cause we have to say that Cause people are misusing words Jump When you say jump It's alarming So I want them to find A different word That was an attempt jump

It was a scuffle It was neither of those it wasn't a scuffle it was fisticuffs yeah it was like it was words that's all it was it was something it was funny made for great gifts though yeah uh i didn't like the way the beat went about the uh i know it wasn't a prodigy tribute uh i was saying i was upset because i think it would because it's rap music it would have been really easy to get a bunch of rappers together to do a tribute you don't got to make sure they sound alike you don't there doesn't be choreography no one has to play an instrument you could have got a bunch of people and did a quick prodigy tribute pretty easy here's my thing though Prodigy passed away It was unexpected I don't know

I mean you know how These awards shows are Yeah timing Timing Everything is But it wasn't like When Michael had passed And it's like

Alright we gotta be Very careful about Who we allow to do A Michael Jackson tribute You could've just got Some legends And spit some Prodigy verses

All on stage together You can't just alter The time though Yeah it's an awards show So I'm going to give... There was some shit they could have cut for Prodigy, in my opinion.

I know how it is with these shows. Well, he just died like less than a week ago, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was like real close. Unfortunately, who else is going to do it? Unfortunately, who else?

What other award show is going to do that? They'll do it at the Hip Hop Awards in October. When is that? October. Yeah, I think that's when it'll happen. They'll do it there. The Grammys in october when is that october yeah i think that's when it'll happen they'll do it there the grammys will acknowledge it they won't do a tribute but

they won't do a tribute but they'll acknowledge it kendrick acknowledging it was was it for me on at the awards every just every time you see kendrick or hear him talk like at one of those types of big events it just reeks of hip-hop the outfit looked like hip-hop the hair back looked like hip-hop and he was the only nigga that was going to go up there in the midst of all of his glory and say prodigy taught me this this album taught me this young people this is why prodigy is important nobody else was going to do that yeah kendrick always seems to say say the right things. I believe him.

Yeah. I believe that's why he's in the space that he's in because I think that's the feeling from a lot of the older heads in hip-hop. They look at him and say, he's hip-hop. I mean, it resonates in his music, too. It sounds like 2017, but you can tell where it came from. He follows the culture. He grew up. This is what he was born to do. He follows the culture. He grew up like this was his, this is what he was born to do.

Yeah, I agree. I was very happy that P and I were able to settle our differences before he passed so unexpectedly. Speaking of unexpected passings, so I got caught up on Power last night and that was rough seeing charlie murphy the whole episode yeah that made it a little a little that changed my experience a little bit yeah we had sort of uh some of the images that had came out uh when they was filming and that um

me too i forgot about him yeah it was rough to see him was one of the security guards skinny one of the ceos and knowing the outcome One of the COs. And knowing the outcome, it was certainly a rough thing to watch. But I was glad I saw him. I was glad it was there. Rest in peace, Charlie Murphy.

Even with him being sick and looking like that, it was still Charlie Murphy in every essence of how he was speaking, how he was acting. His spirit was certainly

100%. Yeah, he was still Charlie. Even though his body may not have been. Right. One day I want to have that. I keep saying that, that I want to have that conversation on the podcast about y'all beliefs on what happens after you die. I keep saying that, and I never get back to it.

It's an odd follow-up to the Migos beef, but yeah, if we want to go there. Were we still on the Migos beef? It's not a beef. I'm joking. Yeah, it's not a beef.'m joking Yeah it's not a beef It was funny though That shit was I didn't know what was going on

My phone just started My phone just started blowing up I fell asleep early I went to sleep Niggas started hitting me like Yo is this real? Is it fake? It looks like a spoof

I'm like fam I don't know What y'all talking about I woke up to a series of text messages In order of how people received information because I was asleep. So it started with, yo, amigos, just beat the shit out of Joe on the red carpet is the first thing I see. Look how shit just gets like. Then I keep scrolling. It's like, oh, nah, nah, I guess they just got into like words or whatever.

And then it was like, yo, look at the fucking clip. Joe just stormed off. It was just an interesting way to see how people get news. I was uh I was in my hotel Safe from harm eating lasagna. No you was hiding when Irv or that When Irv from brunch bounce text me And he said yo you okay? See yeah, I'm doing I'm doing all, I'm good, man. Thanks. Checking in, bro.

Yeah, that's awesome of Irv. Thanks. While he's out there doing whatever he's doing to think of me. And then my mom hits me and she says, those boys tried to hurt you. I said, what are you talking about? And then she didn't hit me back. And then I got like six different texts saying, yo, what's good? Are you all right?

All right, all right. Wait a minute now. I didn't know where all of this shit was coming from. And I still couldn't find it for the first 10 minutes. That shit. I didn't know what was going on. I was in the club. Rumors spread quick.

Yeah. Yeah, Ma called me at 2 a.m. I think I would have been in the fucking hospital already by the time you called. Thanks. I'll be you. You in L.A., I'm in New York. It's a three-hour difference. I was in the club watching A.I. walk around with 17 chains on. Ma didn't even ask me if I was okay.

He just started, like, the conversation normal. I started laughing because I had watched the clip. So I just called you. I'm like, man, what are you doing? That clip was funny, though. What's great is it's so regular with rumors and just your antics that our group chat didn't even talk. Yeah. Like, no one in the group chat said shit.

That's funny. It's like Joe just being Joe. Another Joe day, man. The whole time I was talking about it, but the fucking eight people that are really friends with him in our group chat didn't say a word. Not a word. I just called him. Once I watched it, I said, all right, let me call this nigga and see what's going on. He picked up, you. I'm like, I said, all right, let me call this nigga and see what's going on. He picked up.

You. I'm like, man, what you doing, man? Nothing. I'm chilling. I'm like, yo, no, you're doing something. But I wasn't doing anything, Chris. I was chilling. No, you was doing something. No, I really wasn't.

You was doing something. What else happened? Don't try to just skip over the fucking power episode. I want to talk about a new edition. New edition? What are you talking about? That was an hour ago. We're back at the BET Awards.

I told y'all months ago, when are these niggas going to know that the director's yell cut? They still running around thinking they New Edition. They about to go on tour with them. I promise you. No, that's not happening. They are going on tour. Wait, what? I think that was fake.

No, I think all the editions are going on tour. No, no, no, no, no. That can't be happening. I'm not mad at fake Ralph. I'm not mad at fake Ralph. I'm not mad at fake Bobby. Do y'all know that the real new addition is still alive and breathing? I'm aware. Yeah, it's debatable.

What you mean it's debatable? After the performance I saw. After Ralph's outfit, I don't know. They're still alive, though. Like, they're still here. Have you seen them? With us, yeah. When?

At the awards. Was that them? That was them. Nah. That was them. They got older, and you know Yeah. When? At the awards. Was that them? That was them. Nah. That was them. They got older and they not moving the same, but we ain't going to just act like they not here. That's a newer edition. Yeah.

That's the newest edition. That's the oldest edition. I want to see old edition. That's the oldest. Where is old edition? That's who I'm looking for. They was on the stage. Hold up, man.

Y'all say something. Let me find some old edition shit. You not mad at fake Bobby? Fake Bobby got the whole, she got the mannerisms running around stage and shit. I like fake Bobby. I just can't. I just. Ralph.

Fake Ralph sounds. Fake Bobby is dope. Fake Ralph sounds like Ralph, kind of. No, no, no. I get it. Luke James is great as Johnny. Listen, the new edition series was dope. They did a great job.

But come on, man. Enough is enough. But you got to understand, the New Edition series was dope. They did a great job. But come on, man. Enough is enough. But you gotta understand, it was BET, BET Awards, BET did the movie, it was successful. Dog,

I feel like we've, I feel like this shit comes on every day. We have not stopped hearing about New Edition since that shit aired. If it was whack, I'd be mad,

but it was good. I tried to slander the fake DeVoe and all the girls killed me. They wouldn't let me do it. Now I know the nigga name. It's Keith Powers and shit. That's how you know

chicks is hoes, man. When they start knowing somebody's whole name. We're going to get into our chicks is hoes in two minutes. Let's do it now. Listen, I purposely,

like, okay, so. What happened? So you weren't here. So it was a lot of shit going on in the city this weekend because the NBA Awards was yesterday. Yeah, the Thoughts was watching ESPN.

So all of the hoopers was in town. So, you know, I go out. Oh, the draft. Yeah. The big three shit. I go out Saturday. Was that Saturday? No, Sunday.

I go out Sunday. So let me just see what's going on in the city, man. I just want to sit back and just look at everything. And it's amazing how once women find out that all the athletes are in town, it's like I really just sat back and was just looking like, look at this shit, man. What were you seeing? What wasn't I seeing?

I mean, Chick's trying to jump on AI back still. He ain't played in the NBA in I don't know how long. He Iverson, though. That's AI. Come on, man. It's different. Come on, man. Listen, I've been one of the gentlemen in the same club as prime Allen Iverson

trying to bag women. Oh, no, prime Allen Iverson. to bag women. Oh, no, prime Allen Iverson. It was difficult. No, yeah. No. It might have been impossible. AI and them fucking BMF niggas, I'm telling you. AI is a legend on and off the court.

And it was the same time. AI is a legend on and off the court. Like, the shit he was doing, and this is without social media when he was doing it. I can only imagine. I could definitely steal his bitches now, though. Who? I don't think so, bro. No?

I just saw it Sunday, man. That allure is still there. No, I know that, but I'm saying now it's not impossible to share a girl with, I don't know, I'm just saying, I think now, what? Oh, no. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, no, no, no. Definitely not.

Definitely not. Back then, you wasn't sharing. I mean, but that's how it is now. Everybody's sharing the same girl. Well, I'm faithful. Yeah, no, no, no. Definitely not. Definitely not. Back then, you wasn't sharing. I mean, but that's how it is now. Everybody's sharing the same girls. Well, I'm faithful. I'm not sharing anyone. Whenever I talk about guys sharing, I'm excluding you from that. I'm excluding me.

I'm just saying, like, guys, and that's why there'd be so much fake beef and tension between niggas. It's all over females. Because all y'all niggas got money, so y'all not beefing over money. Anytime you see athletes beefing with each other, don't fuck with that nigga it's definitely a female behind that one thousand percent can't be from basketball you know that's really no that's really really corny right but what i will say is it's kind of dope because that's the only time it puts us back in our animalistic habitat no man that ain't dope you can't be you can't be beefing over no no chick that's with every nigga if we were in the

jungle and our species weren't so sophisticated we would be beefing over those types of things what i'm saying is as as genders when women fight about certain shit amongst women and when men fight about certain shit, I just think it's cute. But it is corny to fight over a girl. But niggas love having

the part in the phrase pause everything. It's a very old phrase. I didn't just make this up. But niggas love having the whose dick is bigger contest. Niggas love doing that. That shit is corny, man.

It's super corny. I don't partake in those types of shit. It's super corny. And I'm looking at chicks standing at the tables with niggas. doing that That shit is corny man It's super corny I don't partake in those types of shit It's super corny And like I'm looking at chicks Standing at the tables with niggas I'm like you was just with this nigga last month Now wait a minute now If I start telling you some of these

These groupie stories No I can only They sharing at least seven niggas They sharing at least seven More than that I can name seven off the rip I would never but

it's a lot of these niggas sharing the same holes and I just be a little I be a little perturbed because they don't be the cutest of hoes I say that all the time

the times are different man I keep telling niggas these IG honeys in person look like the rappers must share the same regular build a body bitches

for the past fucking ten years. Same three. I don't know how in-depth you gentlemen would like to get here. Which brings us to the pool party. It was quite a few of those at the pool party. Just a little different in the light. As far as women that have been shared or what they look like in real life?

Yeah, just what they look like. No, just looks. And they probably being shared. I mean, I don't know.. Yeah, just what they look like. No, just looks. And they probably being shared. I mean, I don't know. It's none of my business. But, yeah, just looks. A lot of them look a little funny in the light. Yeah, but we, I mean, I'll be trying to.

That shit don't shock me no more. Yeah, I was just going to say that. Like, I've been saying that. I've been saying that. I'm not shell-shocked when I see a chick on IG. I just laugh now. Now it's just comedy for me. Like, I'm not even surprised anymore. I just laugh now. Now it's just comedy for me. I'm not even surprised anymore.

I just brag about our part and I just laugh at the people that brag about fucking those girls and then I see them in real life. That's what I laugh at. I laugh at the niggas that be online really going crazy over these chicks. Wait, time out.

Do niggas still brag about fucking women? Yes, niggas do that. What? I haven't heard that in a while. Okay. Where is that happening? Everywhere. Just open your eyes and look. Our group chat is really over. Yes Niggas do that What? I haven't heard that in a while Okay Where is that happening? Everywhere Just open your eyes and look

Our group chat is really over That type of stuff They don't happen in our group chat I don't think we None of us are those type That just be bragging about Like yo I fuck this chick But just tell me

Where people In other group chats In person They be out at parties Like yo you see her Like yeah Men do that shit I'll speak on my gender's

Behalf unfortunately And say men do that corny shit Yo niggas are fucking It happens bro Niggas are fucking trash Yes Niggas are trash I hate it

We are I swear to god I do Well let's not sound too whack There were some Some beautiful women At the pool party And I'm glad it rained Now that I think about it

Cause it would've been Way too hectic If it was like super hot Super sunny all day I'm glad it rained. Now that I think about it, because it would have been way too hectic if it was like super hot, super sunny all day. I'm glad, too. It definitely gave me the exact way that I want to go about doing the next one. Chris was walking around, catching shots. Listen, man.

I'm still waiting on the pictures from Chris or video from Chris. Chris is still hungover. It's been two weeks. No, Ice was bodied. Well, Ice died. Rest in peace. Listen, man. We ain't kill Ice enough for that.

That was ridiculous the way he got trashed that quick and was gone for the rest of the day. He left? No. He was dead somewhere, right? Yes. I got pictures, Paul. He was talking all that fly shit outside. He fell asleep in the hot tub at like 3 p.m.

That's nuts, man. He was in the hot tub going hard for chicks that looked like him, I felt like. At one point, I thought he was in there with the fellas. I didn't know what was going on. That's a lot of men in one hot tub. But he was having fun. So I'm like, Jay, just do you, bro. Do whatever on Like that's a lot of men That went out to him But he was having fun So I'm like Jay just do you bro

Do whatever works To pool party Ice is fucking crazy man Something else Oh my guy Ry Guy Ry Guy is great He uh Cause he bagged that fine girl

Well He looked like he was bagging The fine girl today But I thought it was fine Yeah She was cute And they was having a conversation For hours

For nine hours Until I saw her. Both kicking their feet in the pool. I knew Rob was all the way in too deep because he had kind of like this sweater type thing on. Yeah. And that shit was like in the water. And I was like, I know we don't know the bottom of his sweater. But when you talk to a cute girl, you don't even give a fuck.

You're like, listen, man. His phone could have been in his pocket in the morning. He wouldn't have cared. He was in his bag. I seen that nigga in the morning. I'm like, listen, man, his phone could have been in his pocket in the morning. He wouldn't have cared. He was in his bag. I seen that nigga in the morning. I was like, yo, you was really doing it.

You got the number? He was like, no. I said, huh? 10 hours and you didn't get a number? He wanted the conversation.

No, just talking. Didn't have our phones. We didn't have our phones. That's dope, though. That is kind of dope. That's dope. You love somebody

not having a phone, even though you're right. That's dope. I like that. Just kick it with That's dope. You love somebody not having a phone, even though you're right. That's dope. I like that. Like, just kick it with it. Like, nah, I don't want your number. Yeah, I think Sin eventually

did the hookup. Maul is funny. I won't say why, but Maul is just funny at that pool party. Maul is funny everywhere. I hit a couple corners of, like,

walking to get liquor or ice, and Maul was somewhere where he wasn't supposed to be and people weren't. Really? I don't remember that. I thought I was chilling. I did a pretty good job of just chilling. He was chilling. I wouldn't supposed to be and people weren't. Really? I don't remember that. I thought I was chilling. I did a pretty good job of just chilling.

He was chilling. I wouldn't say he was doing that. He was just chilling in weird areas. Yeah, I mean, that's what I do though. I find my little cut and I just stay there. I don't be doing too much. I just be chilling, man. Yeah, no, more. When's our speed dating shit coming out on Complex? I have to check and see

that was fun me and Mo and Ice did speed dating for Complex that was funny I have to see how that footage looks that was funny

why were y'all the three guys sitting there for fucking speed dating I have no idea I didn't know it was gonna be like that cause originally

when we spoke you was like host it so well originally it wasn't supposed to be filmed it was just supposed

to be people at the fucking pool party man Complex be fucking so much of my shit up then Complex was like well let's make a video

I didn't know what the fuck was going I was like they be fucking me up over there I guess we're speed dating each other cool whatever

I need to be somewhere where I'm allowed free reign to let my wings just spread and soar. At the BC Woods. On the carpet.

Yeah, I know. Why you don't let your wings spread on the carpet? Pause. My wings would have spread on that carpet. Your shirt was flowing and spreading in the wind. I'm telling you, two and a pop. All right, man. Just let it go, bro.

For real. Y'all listen to to Khaled album yet? I did Some of the songs Yeah I did Wait can I just tell y'all That I saw Assad I saw Assad

He exists I saw Assad I found some way To sneak out of the tent To smoke I found a crack In the tent To go outside

And so I was just there chilling? And I saw a stroller with at least 15 security guards around it. And sitters, a mom, it looked like. That nigga was at least 40 deep. Yeah. Wow.

But I'm like, I had just interviewed Khaled. So Assad was moving better than Safari, is what you're saying. Assad was moving better than everybody there. That's right. And I said, damn, that's kind of dope that this little kid just will not cry no matter the commotion. He's born into this. He was on the Summer Jam stage.

He's different. Khaled is prepping for this. I ain't going to lie. He's a little different. I'm starting to believe it. Khaled is definitely prepping for this I ain't gonna lie He's a little different I'm starting to believe it Khaled is definitely prepping for this Summer Jam hurts my 27 year old ears With the bass That motherfucker was on stage

Chilling Yeah I'm saying Alright Khaled Them headphones Is not getting it done They weren't on his ears They were on his chin Those headphones

Khaled is crazy Asahd's gonna have some resentments Asahd Asahd some resentments. Asad. Asad. I'm rolling with Asad going to be a legend. Yeah, we talking about LeVar Ball. Nah, Asad going to be a legend. Watch.

I'm telling you. It's all he knows. What do you mean going to be? Well, he already is. But what I'm saying is. Asad is the big homie. When he starts like really speaking and I'm telling you, it's going to be. We're going to be like, Khaled really prepared him for this.

And you know what? I'm making jokes about how Asad was moving, but don't get it fucked up. Khaled was moving similarly. That's a word, right? Similarly. I don't like how I say it. My fucking lisp. He was moving kind of in the same vein as that, him fucking Lenny.

Is Khaled, like, the biggest, one of the biggest? Yeah. He just is. yeah what is khaled khaled is the he's an artist he's the he's he's he's an executive and an artist in every sense of the word yeah he's an executive and artist khaled might be the ambassador of hip-hop right now to the world honestly I think he's that figure now You know We never have this talk And I won't have it now As you have it He's the Farrakhan of hip hop At some point When I'm

When I have more Courage We'll have the conversation I'm not I'm not having it now But Somewhere along the line I feel like Clue should have been

somewhere in that realm. I can see why you said that. I can see why you said that. How many albums Clue put out on Rockefeller? Two? I think two. The first one was real big. Why did he stop that?

Oh, the Rockefeller shit. Yeah. So why not go get another deal if you clue? I should talk to Clue about that. Yeah, I want to say. He should do a podcast.

That'd be great to have Clue. He keep texting me to come do his fucking radio show. I'm not coming up, dear. Well, you don't rap anymore. I don't rap. I ain't rapping.

I heard somebody that sounds like you on the new Slaughterhouse. I know, and I went in the fucking studio because I love Royce andlaughterhouse I know And I went in the fucking studio Because I love Royce And Royce's family I went in the studio

To do that shit I hated that hour In the studio I was like wow It didn't sound like it Is this how I was living It sounded great I wouldn't know

My ear was off I was in there Looking at Ian Saying listen man I don't know I don't know how that sounded The verse was alright Ian nodding

Saying this shit is crazy I'm like that doesn't help me You saying it's hard So that's how I felt about that You dissed Bryson Siller Nah Bryson's my guy Bryson's my guy

Give him a little shot Slim Jimmy's my guy now Fuck with him Ray Strum is my favorite group now Especially after that Migos incident I seen you not I seen you not keep that same energy

With Ray Strum Yeah I'm mad phony You are I'm mad phony I'm are. I'm mad phony. I'm thinking it's hard. I like Slim Jimmy. Maybe more than Sway Lee now.

Yeah? I heard an interesting story about, and I'm not going to talk about it here, but I heard about exactly how much that unforgettable record ended up

costing. How much was it? I'm not going to say, but I'll keep it a buck with y'all. I don't know if I would have purchased it at that price. Yeah? Well, I wouldn't have been able to afford it anyway.

This is a big record, though. I'm asking y'all because y'all have some experience in the industry. How much money y'all think that record brings back? That's a different time. In a bigger y'all think that record brings back? That's a different time. In a bigger picture or just what that record brings? That record, that one record,

how many millions of dollars come back from this record? It's going to be streamed mostly, so I don't even know if we can talk millions over on that. This is a good question. I'd like to start asking people this. It's a different time, man, with music, like the way you put music out.

Okay, I'll ask you all this. In the bigger picture, does that record bring you back millions? Probably. No, that record is bringing back millions. Yeah, no, that's for sure. I'm saying strictly off just the record. I'm looking at a paycheck from just this record, not what it does. I'm talking about what it does. Shows, either of that. Just that record, I don't record, not what it does. I'm talking about what it shows either of that.

Just that record. I don't know what's doing millions. I'm talking about what it does. That's his lead single. It's a huge single. His album drops next month. Niggas is buying that song. And I think more niggas is buying that album because of that song.

You're getting more shows because of that song. You're doing a lot more because of that song. Whatever is bringing is in a million somewhere so i'll change my question i'll ask y'all this what is the most that y'all would pay for that record and i know this conversation is probably too savvy for the fans because they don't be knowing what records cost or don't cost anyway. But records nowadays don't cost very much. Right. Especially when everyone's friends. Yeah, if they cost anything.

We'll come back to that. I seem to have stumped you guys. Yeah, that's a tough question. All right, we'll come back to it. What else do we have? Which means we won't come back to it. Oh, while I was listening to the Khaled album, I started thinking,

which, all right, Travis Scott is one of my favorite new rappers, artists, if you will. I like Travis a lot. I'm with you on that. Here comes the Travis Scott diss. Here comes Travis Scott diss. But I'm nervous. I'm nervous for Travis.

I think he's doing a little too much. I feel like every album has the Travis record. On Khaled's album, he's all over that shit. Is Travis putting his sound out there too much, too quick? Travis is hot. I don't think so. That nigga's hot. You don't think he's just, he's on every, as he should be.

Because his shit is great. He's very talented. His shows are amazing. I just think, is he putting that sound out way too, I'm not saying be Kid Cudi and disappear With your sound and then come back every year or so But I feel like There's not an album he's not on The fucking Khaled album is Travis Scott

That nigga's hot I mean that's what happens when you I don't think he's oversaturating himself If that's what you're asking Is he in that direction though? If he keeps up doing this Is that too much of Travis? Cause his sound is unique to him like he created that he's the holder of that he can do what he wants with it but if you do it

too much and give it to everybody we like are we now making that not his sound anymore all right time out i don't think he's the sole holder of that sound i like the travis sound from kanye sometimes i like the travis sound with rihanna. I like the Travis sound with SZA. Well, that was the least Travis-y thing he's done. I'm just freestyling right now, so that's where my list stops. Those are the people I like to hear Travis' sound from. I don't

think it's awkward when Rihanna sounds like that. But he is kind of a lot of places. Because when he's on albums, it's literally like, alright, we know Travis wrote and recorded and made the beat by himself and then played it for the artist and the artist is like, all right, we know Travis wrote and recorded and made the beat by himself and then played it for the artist, and the artist is like, all right, let me get on it. It never feels like a collab.

They just take a Travis record. And his ad-libs throughout the whole record and a beat from him, yeah. I get what you're saying. I just don't know if he keeps up at this pace. I just think, of course, me not knowing how to make beats should tell someone how to make beats, but I would just pull back a little bit. I don't think if he keeps up at this pace. I just think, of course, me not knowing how to make beats should tell someone how to make beats. But I would just pull back a little bit.

I don't think he's burned out yet. Yeah, I don't think he's nowhere near that. I understand what you're saying. I'm saying is he at the starting point of doing so? Name some shit he's not on, man. And it's all hot. I'm not saying it's whack because it's all great. But when you're hot, you're in high demand.

That's part of the game. I think he's above that tier where he doesn't need to do that. I think he's so talented that he doesn't need to be on everyone's project. Listen, that's meant to keep relevant. I don't think he needs to do that. I see what you're saying. Be more picky with who you give a feature to. Even if it isn't a super popular person.

You're up there. Those are your peers you're not really need to do that right now i can agree with that i was in the studio with berg a few days that nigga wiz got a record wiz always got record yeah i'm about to say wiz keep a record every time you think wiz don't got a record, he comes back with a record. Wiz got a mean, like, girl record. Jeremiah's, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. And Atlantic is up there figuring out what to do. Man, I might take a label job one day.

These niggas don't know what they're doing. But you'd have to work with Migos if you take the Atlantic job. Migos on Atlantic? I don't know. I'm just making shit up. I'm not working with Migos, by take the Atlantic trip? Migos on the Atlantic? I don't know. I'm just making shit up. I'm not working with Migos by the way. Why not?

Migos is dope, man. And you like Migos. They wouldn't mesh well. I don't think Joe knows how to tell them personality-wise. Talk about Dracos.

I mean, wait, wait, are you speaking about doing a joint with them or like working as an executive? Yeah, like executive. How many artists

get along with executives? Artists don't get along with most executives. That doesn't matter. I think we're entering an era of new age media and new age executives, though. So I think whatever

used to be done as an executive or as a media personality, I think it's about to change. Well, not about to, I'm going to change it on the media side. I'm not conducting interviews

like these niggas. I'm not doing it. Nope. Look how fast I get right back to being mad at some shit. I love being mad. That's what the new edition

shit taught me. I love being mad. Do you like being mad? Yeah, I'm never happy. I'm happy when I'm not happy. What else is there? Speaking of labels,

Chance apologized to Dr. Dre in the aftermath. Oh, back to you, Rory. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes, Rory. Yes, yes, yes, Rory. I'm Nadeska today? Yes, yes, yes.

You are Nadeska. We are here with you, Back to Chance Independent Man. Okay. Let me ask you, why is this happening? Now, do you want me to give you how I want to spin it? Or do you want to give me the truth? I could not wait to get in front of Rory to ask him, why is Aftermath and Dre the only person that he is apologetic toward?

I'm going to give you my spin answer. And then I'll give you the real answer let's do it out of all those labels well down they might can I speak good Trey is the only one while he was had a partnership with Interscope it was his label that he started amongst just artists and he was an artist so while he wasn't independent he was probably the closest thing to independent at that time so that was their apology. But in actuality, of course, Chance wants to continue to work with Apple.

Jimmy Iovine has a lot to do with Apple. So let me go apologize to Jimmy Iovine's best friend. I said he wants to continue to work with Apple. Does not make him any less independent. Doesn't make him any less independent. I'm agreeing. He has relationships with people. So let me save face.

I'm agreeing. Let me save face and apologize. All right, but this is my point and this is me digging deeper pause. He's about to

sign off, man. That was a very in-depth apology. That was a lot of tweets, my nigga. It was. That wasn't just the, that wasn't the just, yo, I had a quick talk with Iveen.

It felt the way, let me get this off right quick. Right. That was, hey, my utmost sincerity. Yo, I was, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking there, Jimmy and Dre. The apology was more than the event. Yeah, man. So that's what I'm reading into there. Somebody really, he stopped some business somewhere that's affecting things.

Even if you're independent, you got to keep your relationships with people. And Chance is great. Clearly. Chance is great. He did body the apology. Yeah. It was a way, when I was reading it, I was saying, damn, if I were in his position, I would not have bodied this apology this way. Well, Chance is saying he's very much pro-artist, and Dre is an artist more than he is a label in that instance.

He's right. So I think that's what he's apologizing for. He is absolutely correct there. But I think Chance is a student of the culture. Absolutely. I don't think that Chance was without this knowledge when he did this act in the first place. So now you're telling us about some information that I'm of the belief you already had. But that's fine because you got to do it.

I'm not mad. You got to do it. Oh, no, no. He bought it. It was great. Artistic expression. I was so proud I was happy as a fuck

diss everybody but you kinda can't diss Dre yes you cannot if there is one person

that you can't diss yeah Dre is listen when you do it with you

NWA Snoop M50 Kendrick. Nothing more to say. Throw some Pac in there as well. Wow. That ends this for me. Yeah, you can't do that. Chance, in-depth apology.

Yeah. Who has a better resume than that? Than Dre? Oh, I think it's not even a debate at all. Dre's been around forever. Dre, Hov, and Puff with the most impressive resumes in hip-hop, right? And I think the Forbes list kind of indicates that. But with Dre dominating eras, of course Puff and Hov have clearly dominated eras. Dre has dominated way more eras. Dre has eras. Of course, Puff and Hov have clearly

dominated eras. Dre has dominated way more eras. Forever. Even when Puff and Hov were dominating, Dre was right there too. So let's talk about domination for a minute. The rapper from Queens?

No, not domination. How's domination doing? He's in jail. Still? I think he gotination. All right. How's Domination doing? He's in jail. Still? I think he got 20 years. Okay. Really? That's the last I saw. I don't know if he got an appeal or something.

Don't quote me. Dom was wilding, though. Niggas was wilding. All right. No, not that Domination. Hold your head, Domination, though, if you're in jail. I don't know. your head domination though if you're in jail i don't know um i was thinking of all of the major cities that uh comprise hip-hop that hip-hop is comprised of it's just really chicago atlanta

la new york if you don't say Houston, then you're wrong. That's six. Toronto. Not counting them yet. They're dominating too, but I'm only talking about over here. Well, not hip-hop. I'm talking about... They're dominating music. Oh, we count Toronto as the U.S.?

No. But we're just talking about Toronto. Even though their sound is dominating the U.S. Yeah, no, we can't count them as U.S., but their sound is dominating. All right, so let's say Toronto. That's seven. Why is there only music coming from seven places,

really? That's not true. That's just where a majority of it is. With the internet now, there's mad, there's a lot of rappers I don't know where the fuck

they from or heard of where they're from. I know, but it seems the major labels only market or target the major cities for some reason. And the rest of the places are target the major cities for some reason and the rest of the places

are left to fend for themselves amongst SoundCloud and Spotify but it makes sense even more now with the internet because I can go

to all these cities where a majority of the people are and then the rest of the people see it on the internet did we read the article about Spotify

thugging everybody out I didn't know I read the one about Apple about giving us our fucking podcast numbers though but tell me about Spotify they're thugging everybody out out? I didn't know. I read the one about Apple about giving us our fucking podcast numbers though.

Tell me about Spotify. They're thugging everybody out. Spotify is thugging out. They're thugging out the labels. There's an article running around. I forgot where I read it and I'm on a time crunch so I'm not about to look for it. But if you do your research, they're thugging these fucking labels out, man.

These streaming services. Music is going to be in a very interesting place in a few years. Less than five. It's going to be very fun to watch. That's all I had there. Streaming Hov album on Friday. Predictions? I think it's a classic already.

I think it's going to be a personal Jay-Z album. I don't think it's going to be as stunting as Magna Carta was. I think it's gonna be A personal Jay-Z album I don't think it's gonna be As Stunting as Magna Carta was I think it's gonna be personal Finally some Old head rap I'm waiting

Yeah I think I think this is gonna be like I don't think This is like for real Hip hop Niggas I think Cause Hovind

He's in that space Where he's gonna make He can make any music he wants That he likes And that's the music he likes. Man, if I'm just going off the names that nigga was saying on Twitter, he kind of wilding. Oh, yeah.

He thanked the songwriters. First of all, congrats to him being invited to the Songwriters Hall of Fame. And then, you know, well, thanking everybody that inspired him. And if I'm going off of that list that was a real hip hoppy yeah list but he uh you know people was having fun with the thing on twitter because they was like a whole tweeting that definitely was not whole tweeting that number one i saw you tweet that that was listen man listen did you see what those periods and that was like did you see the punctuation in those tweets?

If that was Hov. I 100% think that was Hov, by the way. No. Hell no. Someone who's texted with Hov, please at me. Tell me if that's how he types. That was Tata? No, man. That was Jay Brown.

Well, first of all. I think that was either Kaiser or John Manelli. Man, if you don't shut the fuck up. I think it was Kaiser. I'm telling you, man. Kaiser. That is not. That don't think it was Kaiser. I'm telling you, man. Kaiser. That is not. That was not Kaiser, Maul.

I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you. That'll be Jay seven times before it's Kaiser. No. Or Lenny. Shit. Okay. Lenny, John Manelli.

So the next day. I could see John Manelli. Industry plug. I went to go see the bad boy shit, and I saw Lenny there. And this was the night after. And I went and I said Thank you Lenny for Mentioning my friend

In Hov's Twitter rant Lenny didn't find that shit funny At all That motherfucker didn't even Crack a smile at me Lenny's kind of funny sometimes though Nah that's my guy

I fuck with Lenny Lenny's a really good guy Those tweets were hilarious That was Hov man I ain't gonna let you come Rain on my parade That was one of I mean ain't gonna let you Come rain on my parade That was one I mean he okayed it

So it's still like Whoever it was It was still coming from Hov Damn it Hov was definitely Gunning off the names But he was not No Hov was not tweeting that

I think that was Hov No man But I don't Cause he did that Twitter rant shit before When it was really Elliot Wilson That was a joke I think it just was

And he wasn't typing like that. So why all of a sudden is he typing? That's what I'm trying to tell you. It's not Hov, man. That was not Hov, man. That punctuation was too crazy, man. And Hov...

He doesn't write shit, though. What? He doesn't write shit, though. He knows how to... Hov don't know how to write. You crazy as fuck. He's in the Songwriter Hall of Fame. Yeah, all top of the dome.

He knows where punctuate... a period goes in a sentence, man. Don't do that, man. Hov don't write shit down. How could he not? Twitter, we not going to know what to do. If he did the audio text into Twitter, it would have been fine. But he was typing for the first time.

No, but listen, man. Those punctuation marks were all over. If that was Hov, he was in trouble. And he was trying to send us Morse code and let us know. Let us know that, listen, they got Hov. Send the bag, man. He to send us Morse code and let us know let us know that listen they got Hov send the bag man

he was tweeting in Morse code did you see that shit that punctuation was crazy there was definitely some double entendres in there

and we didn't even know I just think you're hating I'm not hating did he ever call you mouse or was that just the first time he never called me anything

it was in the home that's what I'm trying to tell you man that was in the home you've definitely spoken to Jay-Z That just the first time. He's never called me. Anything. It wasn't Hov. It was your boss. That's what I'm trying to tell you, man. That wasn't Hov. You've definitely spoken to Jay-Z in your tenure in this. Anytime Hov called me, it was a diss. Man, he say, yes, mouse, you too. Button.

Ha ha. Look, you hating. I'm not hating. You want to be the only nigga cool with Hov. I'm just saying that wasn't him tweeting. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying he didn't say it. I'm not saying he didn't say it. I'm not saying he didn't say it.

Why can't other people be cool with Hov too? People can be cool with Hov. What the fuck you talking about? I'm saying. So let me be cool with Hov. Don't tell me I'm cool with Lenny S now. Listen, Jay was not sitting there tweeting that. That's all I'm saying.

But he was giving off, I believe it was him giving off those names. Man, back to you, Nadeska. I need Nadeska to just be with me everywhere I fucking go. You be waiting in line at the bank. Sir, your card was declared. Back to Nadeska. I tell Act

to close the fucking Migos interview. The perfect time for him to just say, back to you, Nadeska. And he doesn't do it. I ain't saying this shit. I ain't get paid

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Rory's getting a bag and I'm just saying something. No, where's MeMoneys going? If you checked your email, I sent it to when we was getting paid. I ain't got time to check my email. I'm getting attacked by the fucking Amigos.

You want me to check an email? I've never heard them called the Amigos before. That was the first time. I don't know. Whatever. All right, it was three of them. All right, three Amigos. All right, am I doing this now?

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Well when I watch them I'm out of me undies Then I'm back to fucking Hanes Yo how you feel about the draft? We ain't speak about that man About your Knicks Your beloved Knicks Listen

Phil As much as I hate him Why you looking at me like that though? What's up with you? I'm asking you a question We haven't kicked it No We just kicking it

We just catching up No I'm not trying to kick it. Okay. Phil, I hate Phil, but he has drafted a good European. So maybe I'll give him a chance here. But I was upset when you have Smith Jr. and Monk on the board at that time. Like when he drafted Porzingis, those two weren't available. Rory, listen.

So it was okay. The draft is all about taking the best player available. I'm aware. He was not the best player available. I'm aware. He was not the best player available. I'm definitely aware. Okay. I have been screaming Smith Jr. since we got the eighth pick. That's not even my biggest beef.

I like Smith Jr. I like Monk. But I get taking a 6'5 nigga with a 7'1. You got to be able to guard the perimeter. I understand that part. My thing is Phil ain't going to be there in two years. That's my thing. And this kid won't be ready for guard the perimeter. I understand. I understand that part. My thing is, Phil ain't going to be there in two years. No.

That's my thing. And this kid won't be ready for another two years. So you're drafting, I don't know that because they said that about Porzingis too when that nigga came in

kind of effective. Yeah, but Porzingis is a seven-footer with skill. This kid is a dime a dozen guards in the league. I'm not going to say that yet. Okay. I'm not saying that yet.

You'll see it. Where have you seen this kid? When you went to France, nigga. Let's hear it. What the fuck is Maul talking about? That's exactly my point. Yeah, but you ain't seen enough to be able to say this kid ain't in it and he needs two or three years.

But as a guard in the league, that's like the toughest position right now. You know how many guards, like great guards in the NBA right now? Yeah, which is why I understand Phil wanting to draft that guard. I don't have to see that kid, and I know he's not better than Dennis Smith Jr. Or Malik Monk. I know that. Now. Right now.

He's not. That's all I'm saying. The draft is all about taking the best player available. I think that those players that you mentioned have higher ceilings. I do. That's all I'm saying, bro. But I have that those players that you mentioned have higher ceilings. I do. That's all I'm saying, bro. But I have nothing to base that off of, so I'm waiting to get more information. I'm waiting to see Frank Nicolina.

Nicolit. I don't know. I don't know his name. Well, congrats to Russ on winning MVP. I think we all kind of knew he was going to win. Yeah, I did. Did you guys watch the NBA awards? No, I don't even like the idea.

Yeah, I think it's kind of cheesy. Yeah, it's a little wack. I gave it about three minutes and had to turn it off. They're trying to get shit popping like that. I understand they're trying to market.

Drake is a great host, though. You got to get Drake to host more shit. He's funny. He's a good host. But that's why he's going to always get those type of things because he's well-spoken.

He has humor. He has that humor that those type of gigs call for. I think he did a great job. I didn't see a lot of it but the scene certain clips I saw the clips this morning yeah Drake dropped three records and the needle didn't move at all I like I like what he did to the freaking you record that's the only one I like I don't think the one with Metro and Quavo is for me so I'm not going to comment on it it cuz I don't particularly like that music to begin with but the other record Signs throw away more life record I've heard that Drake record a bunch of times I

didn't hear it again I like that Drake record but I didn't need it again I like it too but in Colin Kaepernick Kaepernick announces retirement Louis Vuitton better giving Drake the bag for that they want Drake is getting a bag for it yeah like Drake is the bag yeah as soon as he walks in he ain have given Drake the bag for that. Drake is getting a bag for it. Drake is the bag. Yeah. As soon as he walks in, he ain't talking unless it's a bag. Yeah, that's the bag. He's not texting if it ain't the bag.

Yeah, but back to what I was saying, Kaepernick. He announced retirement? I didn't know that. Yeah, he's retiring. He still doesn't have a... That was another thing I was a little upset at the BET Awards. That he wasn't a presenter or just somebody involved in the award show? For all the flack

he's taken, right? Yeah, I thought that would be a good thing of BET to do. So do y'all think it's good to be woke or you should be careful where you're woke at? Because he's woke, clearly.

It depends what your intentions are and your goals are. But see, this is the thing I don't like about sports because they did the same thing to Chris Jackson, Mahmoud Abdul-Raouf.

He was actually standing for the national anthem. He was just praying his Muslim prayer during the national anthem. And they ousted him. He was still, to me, he's one of the greatest guards that ever played the game. That's 100% true. But a lot of people don't know about that because of the way the NBA just ousted him and blackballed him as a result of him just saying the Muslim prayer during the national anthem. See, this is another one of those conversations that I don't think we have enough time to get into. But we do know who sports is ran by.

No, yeah, I get that. We don't really seem to care just because we really like sports. But this is not really a revelation to me anyway. Yeah, but it's just. You can't be woke in the nfl especially not the nfl not there we pay you too good boy yeah but yeah we don't got enough time to get to that this is a whole that's a whole that is my point but it's very telling that this gentleman i just wish that more black athletes spoke out in support of Kaepernick. Let me just say that. We ain't got to go too deep into it, but I wish that that happened.

Well, again, me outside looking in, but I just think a lot of them see what happened to him and naturally are a little nervous to do so. They can't kick all of us out. They can't do it. It's impossible. There won't be no league. But they will never have to. But that's what I'm saying. All of us ain't do it. It's impossible. There won't be no league. But they will never have to. But that's what I'm saying.

All of us ain't about that. That's the problem. That's what I think the problem is. Mo, that's the problem everywhere. I'm just saying that that's the problem. I'm not saying it's not a problem everywhere. That's the problem. Like, more black athletes should be supporting Colin Kaepernick.

Kaepernick did get a really huge check, right? Yeah. He got $100 million, I think. I don't know if it was guaranteed, but I don't think he'll be hurting anytime soon. No, no. My thing is, when you blackballed, that's different. That's not really his that he's donating. When you blackballed, though, from the league, you blackballed from all league activities.

He can't go and he's not getting a fucking announcer job. Shut up. Hell no. If they won't let him play, you think they don't give him an announcer job? He can't even go anywhere and really, like, represent the NFL. No. Honestly. Them old white men, they handled that shit quickly.

Expediently. I do want to say that I did listen to the SZA album, finally. What are your thoughts? Great album. Bodied her performance, man. Great album. It's so great when people sound like their record. I was nervous for her because they fucked up the whole intro and the whole shit.

And I was like, damn, that's probably going to get her out her whole mind. Not at all. She got out there and did the damn thing. I saw her on the carpet, gave her a big hug and kiss, was real happy for her. Shout out to SZA. Yeah, her on the carpet, gave her a big hug and kiss, was real happy for her. Shout out to SZA. Yeah, that album was crazy. Maul's homegirl,

what was that? I saw one tweet about Azealia Banks saying that SZA stole her style or someone said that. I don't know if she said, I just saw a tweet about that. That's Maul,

I was just trying to get to the source. That's Maul's homegirl. My homegirl. That's my homegirl. Okay. You heard that was my girl. It was Wikipedia, man. My homegirl. That's my homegirl. I wanted to go to... Okay. You heard that was my girl. It was Wikipedia, man. Okay.

Okay. Can't listen to that. I hear you. We haven't spoken since her volume two came out, speaking of women in R&B. We haven't spoken since the picture of her came out. Yo, they was marketing this girl in such a way that I thought she was just ugly and unattractive. So did I. Boy, were we wrong. Yeah. she was just ugly and unattractive. Boy, were we wrong.

She is not ugly and unattractive. She's very, very attractive, actually. Somebody that tells me they write with her was in the same hotel as me. I'm going to believe him just because he was on his way to the concert. It doesn't take much to fool me.

Did he have a Roc Nation head on? No, I don't think he did But uh Don't believe him He says he writes with her We exchange information I was really happy about that Cause I'm a huge fan of her work

God damn I don't even know if I have a sleeper for the week If you would've said one more word to Migos You would've been asleep for the week Spades Two in a? Spades. Two in a possible. Spades.

Two in a possible. That's funny. Joe, that might be one of the funniest things you've ever said. How long you thought about that? I'm trying to tell you something. I think. Two in a possible.

That's the only thing in a jump. First of all, that's a weak ass hand. First of all, is it real spades? Let's just say that. If you yell out, you're like,

two in a possible. Nigga's like, we going blind. We going blind. hand first of all is it real spades let's just say that if you yell out you're two and a possible two and a possible first of all real niggas ain't never going blind so fix your spade game that's the thing about a jump you only got to take one or two down with you well how many are there man i was staring at blouses and hair and bike belts. Some very nice shit. They were very sharply dressed,

though, I will say that. Dressed like sin. They were sharply dressed. Quavo's little Crash Bandicoot chain was kind of hard. I don't even like jewelry like that. They some stylish dudes, man.

They got their own... They are stylish and they are talented. I'm talking shit, of course, but they are talented and they are stylish. The funny shit to me was, of course, they always dressed that way,

but when the Entourage goon came into frame, he was dressed just as nice and identical to them. Oh, the fourth Migo. Yeah. Yeah, the guy that was tough with lyric. He was going to be the first nigga on the floor. All right. What's next?

Two Chainz albums? Did that come out after our last? Yes, it did. Chainz album is out. Chainz album is hard. We might as well do What's Hot, What's next? 2 Chainz album Did that come out After our last Yes it did Chainz album is out Chainz album is hard We might as well do What's Hot What's Not It's a lot of music

It's the number one album Chainz album is great Number one album Go Chainz Yeah That's awesome Yep Number one album

I think that record With Monica Burglar Burglar bars That's great Shit Riverdale Road I didn't even know 2 Chainz be in's great Shit Riverdale Road I didn't even know

2 Chainz be in the Bronx But Riverdale Road Shit was super hard Chainz is too tall To be in the Bronx I just feel like That's awkward The bass on that shit

Is gonna get me Kicked out of my building The intro too Is super hard Yeah It's not beating Rick Ross' intro yet But it was a great

Great intro I was shocked At how dope Russ' album Still sounds dope Still She still Yeah His album On the way here It's not beating Rick Ross' intro yet, but it was a great, great intro. I was shocked at how dope. Ross' album still sounds dope. Still. Still. She still, yeah. I'm listening to Apple's album on the way here.

I don't want that to get lost in the mix. I haven't seen the Can't Stop, Won't Stop, Puffy shit. Oh, speaking of great projects, Ray J and Chris Brown put out a dope project. Yeah. I'm going on record and saying that. That shit is really good. That's what the group chat said. I've heard good things about it and I'm a big fan

of Chris Brown and Ray J. I mean, I'm not a blood so I don't relate to too much of it but it sounds amazing. I wish Chris Brown and Al Merriam

would come out. He got some joints on there. Shout out to Royce, man. Bar exam four is out. Yep. Alright. Royce is racing still. Super hard.

I don't know if I've heard anyone rap that way. Yo, listen, Royce is, listen, man. He's approaching that conversation. Shit, we had it on. No, we, I mean, because we just know. I'm talking about, it's going to become a more broad, general conversation on people.

Royce Da 5'9 is crazy. I feel bad for the person at Rap Genius That had to Put all that shit On Rap Genius And type it Royce is different Yeah Shout out to Royce But I think all the niggas That's different

Kinda recognize Royce As being different Oh yeah Those that know know That's all that it That's all it really matters to me I don't care what the Those that know know

What the untrained Fucking ear thinks Yeah Outside of Charlie Murphy power Any thoughts on the first episode? Those that know, know. What the untrained fucking ear thinks. Yeah. Outside of Charlie Murphy, Power, any thoughts on the first episode? Power is one of the shows I can't even grade them until five episodes in. The old white man is very intriguing to me. How so?

The jail. In jail. Oh, the guy that we're interviewing. Yeah, he was there for a reason. He wasn't just there. And I liked him. I liked his new character. Whatever he's about to do, whatever fuck shit's about to happen with him, I want to know. I think, why am I blanking?

Because I don't go to court often. The new lawyer against the fucking. Oh, yeah, the new guy. The Asian guy, right? Yeah, yeah. Something might happen to him. I don't know if he gonna make it To too many court sessions Yeah he's too efficient

He's too good at his job He's a little too condescending I think for Ghost To just let him keep rocking Yeah Here's my spoiler Homeboy to kill Greg Is 100% killing the Asian guy

That's happening Sorry Yeah I can kind of see that Yeah that The way they be looking at, I can kind of see that. Yeah, that nigga be dead. The way they be looking at each other is kind of like, your mother. That nigga walk through this.

No, no. What are you doing here as the commanding? Yeah, that nigga gonna kill him episode three. As much as I like Jay Pharoah or whatever, I just can't see Turtle

being the lawyer. It's just tough for me. That's the only casting that I'm like, eh, he's doing well, but I just see Turtle against Turtle. He's forever gonna be Turtle. He's just Turtle. Forever.'s the only casting That I'm like Eh he's doing well But I just see Turtle Against He's forever gonna be Turtle

He's just Turtle Forever He's done a lot of shit Since Entourage But I was just Such an Entourage fan I like him as Proctor And I've never seen

One episode of the Entourage It's a good series I don't know if it's for you But it's a good series You've never seen An episode of Entourage? It's one of my favorite Series ever

You don't even wanna Begin to know The series that I have Not seen one episode of I thought you would have seen Entourage. Joe just saw The Wire like six months ago. The only time I ever even needed to reference Entourage is when I was dissing Saigon because I heard he was on Entourage. Other than that, I had no interest in watching an Entourage.

You would like that show, though. Why? I don't think he would. I know the type of shows he of show He likes fucking weird crime shit That show is not Sophisticated enough for me It's a great show though I don't need to just see

Niggas running around As an entourage I was the entourage I'm not But it's not Niggas in LA You're so stuck on the word He famous

His niggas It was more shit going on Than that though It's why they wildin' in LA Nah it was about It was about the movie. That nigga crew is crazy. See?

That's not what the show is about. I've never heard you try to be so surface before. You usually try to dig deep and like it's doping it. But no, no, no. I'm only being silly right now

because when Entourage was at its, was in its pinnacle, I asked niggas, you know I asked, I said, what is this show about? And that's what they told me.

They said it was a guy who moved to LA and I was like, uh, I'll pass on that one. It's about the movie business. It's all just, it's an in-depth look

at all the parts of the movie business. It's just surrounded by these four people. Alright, so let me ask y'all this. Like Jeremy Piven in that is one of the greatest

TV characters ever as Ari Gold. Ever. Yeah, I one of the greatest TV characters Ever As Ari Gold Ever Yeah I hear a lot of people Talk about this Ari Gold person Yeah He needs his Ari needs his own show

Shit yeah A spin off of Ari Would've been great I don't think Entourage is as famous As niggas say Then why'd the movie flop? Uh

Did it flop? I didn't even It flopped It was down for 30 minutes It flopped Niggas killed it It flopped in the sense of They asked every. It flopped. Niggas killed it. It flopped in the sense of...

They asked every celebrity to come... Yeah. It was a lot surrounding it. But only because I think you can only fit... See, the series is like an hour every week. No, it's half hour. Half hour? It's only half hour.

Okay, half hour every week, right? But mad episodes. Yeah, so it's like the movie, you got to try to do all of that in maybe an hour. Is it worth going back to is my question. The movie? No, no, no, no, no. The series.

The series? Like I went back to The Wire. I didn't see The Wire when it was on. Yeah, it's worth it. I saw that. But you got to go in with the mind state of what, like, because I know you go into shows in crime mode investigative. It's just a cool show to watch.

Like you got to relax and watch it. That's cool. Now you're not at the edge of your seat when you're watching it. I like The Rock's show. Ballers? That's cool Now you're not at the edge Of your seat When you're watching it I like the Rocks show Ballers That's like a cool show To just watch Okay

That's like the same vein Go back to Entourage then Yeah But I knew going in The movie was just going To be a longer episode I wasn't going in like Alright they about to kill this

I knew what it was gonna be And I think everyone else did We were just happy To see Entourage again I'm not going Because they weren't Doing another season So they might as well

Just try a movie I'm not going to watch Pac's movie I haven't seen it yet Yeah I haven't seen it I'm not going to see it But I'm not gonna say I'm not going because they weren't doing another season so they might as well just try a movie I'm not going to watch Pac's movie I haven't seen it yet yeah I haven't seen it I'm not going to see it but I'm not going to say I'm not going to see it

I just haven't felt like going out I'm not going to the movies to see it if I turn my TV on and somehow it's on one of my fucking apps then fine

I'll watch it other than that nah I'm cool I'm not doing that shit it did really well it just got really bad reviews I don't care about LeVar Ball

Wrestling Now him running into the ring One of the funnier things I've seen Maul you know How you feel about the Lakers pick? I don't feel about the Lakers pick You the only person I know

That don't like that pick By the way I just don't think Lonzo Ball is going to be that good He can play Don't get me wrong he can play I've watched him he can definitely play ball but I just think that I would have went with Dennis Smith Jr. at two because I don't think that I don't think that Lonzo Ball is better than D'Angelo

Russell so oh that's what I was about to ask you who will have the better NBA career which is a different question actually who will have the better NBA career? Which is a different question, actually. Who will have the better NBA career, D'Angelo Russell or Lonzo Ball? And why? I think D'Angelo Russell is going to do really well in Brooklyn because they're going to give him the team. And I think D'Angelo, he shoots it better than Lonzo. He passes just as well. If that whole recording shit didn't happen with

D'Angelo, because when you look at his numbers, his numbers were great. But if that shit doesn't happen, I don't even think that the Lakers even think about moving him. It's back to how to move when you can't record your teammates in the locker room. I totally get that, and I stand by that, but I don't... Lonzo Ball's not head and

heels better than D'Angelo. He might be a little more athletic, maybe, but aside from that. I also don't think that's why that guy was in the rest of the office. He comes in with more box office. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's the thing. That's what I'm not. It's Los Angeles.

The Knicks have box office. They're going to sell out every game no matter if they're winning, losing, because it's New York City. It's in the middle of Manhattan. People just go to the Garden and watch a game. I don't want that to happen to the Lakers. I don't want just box office. I want to win.

LA's always been that, though. They've always had that guy. But we're a winning organization, though. I know, but they've always had that individual that's brought a lot of attention. Of course, it's usually come from how they played. But it translates into winning. But D'Angelo Russell wasn't that Lonzo Ball could be that. I want all Knick fans to black out the 41 Garden games next year in the event that James Dolan does something really stupid.

Yeah. I've been saying that. If they traded Porzingis like the reports were saying, I'm not paying you no mind. Okay. He won't be a Knick next year. Because you were telling me, and you were wrong, you were telling me that after this year, he's a free agent.

That's not true. It's the next two years. It's this year and the next year. And for me, that changes things because Phil is done at that time too. So if Phil is getting the fuck out of here, then I think that changes things with Porzingis. After this year, they can match. And they're matching.

You know they're matching. Come on. You think that Porzingis will be a Nick this season? I absolutely think he will be. This season? Yeahingas will be a Nick this season I absolutely think he will be this season yeah he'll be a Nick this season 100% he's a Nick the next two seasons

anything they would've done would've been before the draft the next two seasons he's a Nick after that no idea and it's really gonna hurt my heart when he leaves

cause that nigga really is a unicorn um did we cover everything I think so cause I gotta get the fuck out of Dodge I'm on Philly radio all week this week all week

being today tomorrow and Friday for y'all. But yeah we're going to have a good time out there. Cool. Do I have

I don't even have a sleeper. Alright let me see if I have a sleeper. Do do do do do do do. Mall has a sleeper. Mall's going first. Yeah get your fucking hardcore Toronto rap out the way.

Toronto rap. Man, good music came out, though. I've been playing this record. I've been playing this record all week. This is Vado off the Sinatra 2, V-A-D-O. Yo, there's some joints on that Vado mixtape.

Shouts to Vado. I see you, boy. And this is all real rap, too. That's why I like it. Mic check, one, two, one, two. I might have to get back in the booth real quick. This beat is hard.

He got a couple beats like this on the project. Phenomenal. Yeah. All right, Vado. Vado got some shit. I'm feeling where we going. You ain't said a word.

Hey. Nah. He always trees me right Rubber bands on the bundles Selling dope was the day, y'all Running under G-Dawg, E-Hall, and J-R J-Cop the bins, 420, need more 20s In and out the crib, the line long, that's all money I had the black Murmur with ACGs on Pepe jeans on, we gon' make us the theme song I squeezed wrong, the most hit, Rick in the staircase

With the tray, yeah, while we running down in my man place I couldn't stand mace, I was more of a cam fan At the time, fuck being pretty, I'm hand in hand And sham did the navi, BB's in silver Playing for the wizards, Chris Webber's his nigga Shit I remember, say the children in black top Raw, they called the shooter and total package had mad hops Final four games, was a little nigga that saw things things but wanted more things went hard and then all came damn

he killed that just a little bit about mommy About my name You don't know my name You don't know my name You don't know my name He always treats me right Had 44, fit New York with the same dope that Maine had Couldn't call it Tommy, reasonable doubt was the name tag JR never flashed, kept it cool with a plane swag

Lotta cash on him cause every morning it came fast And give a pass when other blocks was tryna plot Never had when undercover cops was tryna cop At the same time, Rel Mac had the deuce lit Used to bring hove through, drove through in CL6 Water fillin', chop was makin' the killin' Christmas, handin' hunnids to every ten in the building Made a stash in the ceiling from fiends that's tryna steal it That's Vado, VAD off that Sinatra 2, out now. Happy birthday, OG Rel Mack, too, man. That was crazy.

That was hard. Bro, you got one? Uh, yeah. I'm about to play a really weird sleeper. You'll either love this or hate it. I feel like you've said that about your last three sleepers. No, I don't think I've said that once, if you rewind the tape. Oh.

All right, fine. This is Devin the Dude, Are You Going My Way? Featuring two people that I don't know but they killed this shit Tony Mack and Lisa love who body the end of this record Yeah, yeah, yeah Hey lady Is your bus running late? I see your kids walking around with a bag full of groceries I know you don't know me, but are you going my way?

I know you don't know me, but are you going my way? Hey, excuse me. I don't usually pick up strangers, but you know it's dangerous out here. You riding on the 52 and niggas walking up. They trying to get at you. You ain't scared. You from the hood. Yeah, it's all good.

They trying to get you in the bed if they could but i'm offering a service like uber first ride free i'll spit some game to you tell your kids to grab the bags and get in i'll take you past 6 10 faster than metro let's go catch ghosts find out more about you get more info are you married married, are you single, are you private, do you mingle Do you want something about to make your spine tingle Is my truck good enough Oh shit, I think your bus is good enough Hey lady Is your bus running late

I see your kids walking around with a bag full of groceries I know you don't know me One of the songs Rory plays to keep his hipster card. Devin the Dude is hipster. Devin the Dude is hipster. J.R. though. To be fucking with you I done worked 12 hours And got four gigs So what can you do? Girl, I got a job With some benefits

And I could probably get A little daddy to fix He need some centers I could get him I could cheat shit I know your baby daddy Might not be shit Hey, lady

This is a sick-ass record right here. Yeah. Is your bus running late? Mm-mm-mm-mm. I see your kids walking around with a bag full of groceries. I know you don't know me, but are you going my way? That's Devin the Dude, Are You Going My Way, off Acoustic Levitation. That whole album is of that type of music.

Oh, so I'm going to buy it because that was really enjoyable. I feel like Devin the Dude has been making enjoyable music my whole life. I'm a huge Devin the Dude fan. This is already one of my favorite albums of his. I'm going to play a song by Tank just because I keep playing this song and I feel like when Tank drops new music, I'm the only one that knows. Tank is great, too.

He is great, but when he drops these Lucy type of tracks, he don't really care who catch it or not. He just put it out and go on about his business. So this is called When We and this is not off anything. I just bumped into it

because I'm a Tank fan. When we I like it when you lose it I like it when you go there I like it when you go there I like the way you use it I like that you don't play fair Recipe for disaster When I'm just tryna take my time, yeah The stroke is getting deep and faster You're screaming like I'm out of line Who came to make sweet love?

Not me Who came to kiss and love? Not me Who came to beat it up? Rocky And don't use those hands to put up that gate and stop me When we Fuck When we

Fuck When we Fuck When we Fuck I'm gon' be aggressive I can be a savage I just need your blessing Say that I can ask When we Fuck When we Fuck You love it when I lose it You love it when I go there

You love the way I use it You love that I don't play fast You end up calling me master Say this universe is mine Say this universe is mine When we're done it's a disaster End up like this every time Who came to make sweet love? Not me Who came to kiss and love? Not me Who came to beat it up? Rocky And don't use those hands to put up that gate and stop me When we fuck When we fuck When we fuck

When we fuck I can be aggressive I can be a savage I just need your blessing Say that I can act for you When we fuck When we fuck Brand new from Tank. I'm not going to let him say that with a podcast with two other guys sitting here face down.

Relax, Tank. But that's brand new from Tank called When We. Check it out. It's probably on his SoundCloud page. It's a lot of good shit on SoundCloud. Did we miss anything this week? Fourth of July is not this weekend, right? No, it's coming up.

It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. But it's still, this is the Fourth of July weekend not this weekend, right? No, it's coming up. It's like Tuesday. It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. But it's still, this is the Fourth of July weekend, I would imagine. Rory, one of my only friends with a job, and he don't know the date it falls on. Tuesday. I said I was the one that said that.

I think it's like Tuesday, maybe. But what are y'all doing Fourth of July? Probably laying low. Local barbecue, something small. All this shit is the same, bro. Same-sies. Yeah, holidays. All this shit is the same bro Samesies Yeah holidays Weird

July 21st We are at Highline Ballroom Live In New York City Oh yeah that's coming up too We should get together And figure something out I was gonna say

Off air we should meet On one of these days On Saturday or Sunday And brainstorm What the fuck we wanna do With this Yeah July 21st that is I mean I lied

We have everything planned It's gonna be amazing For me that's That's the mall's coming out party Let them all have fun Yeah, July 21st, that is. I mean, I lied. We have everything planned. It's going to be amazing. For me, that's the malls coming out party. Let them all have a blast. What the fuck was that? You know what's funny? In my head, I said pause.

I know you did. You would have to. Any man would have to say pause in their head after they heard that. Except for the adults who don't play the pause game. Only us kids. But yeah, mall can have a blast on stage telling all you guys his stories. Oh, oh man i will have nickel bags on sale in the back you know i mean i'm just playing no you're not this nigga was selling nicks at the pool party i think get the fuck out of here you see how you always sorry yo you don't know what's going on you so

full of shit you gotta change your wikipedia page you so full of shit, man. You got to change your Wikipedia page. You so full of shit, man. That shit says mad shit. I know. Again. We got t-shirts on sale. JoeButton.com, friend of the show t-shirts. Yeah, and they're actually being sent out and delivered, and they're of good quality. Yeah, they are good. Purchase them if you'd like to be a friend of the show. Anything else?

You're in Philly. Yeah, I'm in Philly this week, and that's about it. Henny Palooza, Detroit, July 8th. That's interesting. Yeah. it's fine I got passes man I made some calls just call Royce

I did Royce was my first call yeah you'll be okay smart man very smart man alright that's pretty good again man

rest in peace Prodigy man 100% yeah I don't even think I could have got into how much I appreciate Prodigy yeah that was

so yeah just know we love I think it's it hits harder for New Yorkers though 100%. Yeah, I don't even think I could have got into how much I appreciate Prodigy. Yeah, that was so. Yeah. Just know we love. I think it hits harder for New Yorkers, though, I think. Because that was such a. Someone had tweeted. I think Shy had tweeted that, like, Mobb Deep is our DNA. Yeah.

That's how deep. It is. They are. Like, that's the New York sound. That is New York. Mobb Deep. Like, to me, of Of course Illmatic Is Illmatic But I felt like

All the people Nas Were rhyming about Was the infamous album Those were the guys And it just felt like That was really New York At the end of the day Yeah it was

Complete shocker man But again rest in peace And prayers and condolences To Prodigy's family Yeah for real Word We'll see y'all Same time next week

Hopefully right I'm not going nowhere That's all on you B These niggas act so crazy When they don't get a podcast For one fucking week Knock it off In their defense

A lot of shit happened In that week A lot happened In the last two weeks We didn't even get into The fucking title rollout They didn't give us the bag Maul's really mad

It's alright Maul I'm not mad Let me conduct the business man Dog I'm not mad I'm mad at title I the business, man. Dog, I'm not mad. I'm mad at Tidal. I'm not particularly mad at you. All right. I'm not mad.

But I'm still kind of mad at you. The bag is on the way. Still, we're going to get the niggas out of here. What? Wait a minute. Not a bad morning podcast. All right, I have to rush the fuck out of here. Are y'all recording this?

Yes, we are recording. Regular scheduled time. Yes. Yes, Chris. As far as segments, obviously.