The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 121 | "Join Forces"

Episode Date: July 19, 2017

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No Joe Budden Microphone check 1, 2, 1, 2 We are back Joe Budden Podcast Episode number 121 I'm your host Joe Budden Across from me is Rory Lanes

And we are honored Thought I was seeing a ghost Power to the people We back to do maintenance Yeah, yeah We gonna rock like crack when it came in. Maul. Maul.

Maul. I'm going to rock like crack when it came in. Maul. Everyone simmer down. Loaded Maul. Pause. Oh, man. How are you?

I'm great, man. It's Maul's first verse? Yeah, all first verse. I'm great. You don't even know where the microphone is at. He ain't even. I'm saying. Yo, Maul's so ill.

He ain't even talking to the microphone. He ain't thinking about where the microphone is at He ain't even I'm saying Yo, Maul's so ill He ain't even Talking to the microphone He ain't thinking about Where the microphone What's up, man? I can hear me Y'all can hear me? I'll just pause

That's better? There you go For our iTunes and SoundCloud listeners Maul didn't even have The microphone paused Anywhere near him It was to the side And he was speaking

Straight forward Listen, forget about that For a second What's up, man? What we doing, man? You know what I'm saying? I've been here, you know what I'm saying? Checking the show when I wasn't here, you know what I mean? There's a lot of slick talk going on, man. You know what I'm saying?

Y'all was talking real greasy. You know what I'm saying? Now we face to face, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, B, you know what I mean? What happened, Joe? What happened? Nothing happened. 44 jeans and all that, you know what I'm saying? You don't have 444 jeans? No, nigga, no.

Never wore 444 jeans. Did you live in L.A.? No. But let's get into your swag right now, though. What's up, man? It's a little L.A. with the bucket hat and all the colors. Yeah, real. I was going Weekend at Bernie-ish.

Can you flip the brim up? Is that polka dots? Yeah, nigga. What you mean? So fresh back from the ESPka dots? Yeah, nigga. What you need? So fresh back from the ESPYs. Yeah. We have Maul. Maul is back.

Glad that you could join us, Maul. Yeah, man. A round of applause. Good to be back, man. You know. How was your LA trip? Oh, LA was dope, man. You know, I always have a good time when I'm in LA.

A little katana, huh? Actually, we ain't do katana this time around. We ain't do Katana, man. A lot of new spots, y'all. I got to let you know about. Yeah. Some low spots. Yeah.

Well, I mean. I'm doing a little Insta live. Yeah. I got to get you some low spots. You know, I know you like to be low. You know what I mean? I do. I got you.

I got some low spots for you. Not Katana. No, no. BJ put me on to some couple low spots. Not Hollywood hookah. Okay. Yeah. We ain't doing that.

Not Hollywood hookah. No. Even though, I mean, I was there last time I was in L.A. So was some Not Hollywood hookah Okay Yeah Not Hollywood hookah No Even though I mean I would do it last time I was in LA So was I Hollywood hookah Shit more was with me

Yeah You would be Y'all would be Y'all are those guys I like Hollywood hookah Nah And we plugging them too much though Once you go to a hookah bar

On Steinway You don't want to go to Hollywood hookah Yeah that's also true Yeah Nice little back area If you're chilling with your friends though They redid it yeah they did it's cute I mean not cute enough for me to yeah I'm over it uh so anything else you want to share with us about your about your uh trip oh no I mean we just went out there you know kicked it put a few moves together kind

of built a few couple relationships man you know you know. Trying to work some things, man, make some shit happen, man, you know. Bag talk. For the bag, baby. Jesus, man. For the bag. Gotta go get the bags, man. We're back to the bag talk. We ain't never left the bag talk.

You know that. Okay, so have you been keeping up with everything that's been happening? Yeah, for sure. Are you up to date enough to talk about these things? For sure. What is the first thing that we should be talking about? Y'all got to help me out here. You're media, man.

You're the one that talks about it. It's media, man. What happens every day. Let's talk about why everybody's trying to kick R. Kelly in his back for having a woman live with him. And Hugh Hefner been doing this for years, man. Couple women living with him. What's the difference between R. Kelly and what Hugh Hefner's doing? I think Hugh Hefner is paying them.

How do we know R. Kelly's not paying them? Not this shit again How do we know R. Kelly's not paying them? How? Well Shorty went on TMZ and said she was fine I bet she is But she was blinking her eyes a lot Which made me think she was doing Morse code To say help, help

She was counting the bags She's about to be 22 Booking info about to go up You know her price going up now She's about to be 22 Booking info About to go up You know her price Going up now She's about to start Doing interviews R. Kelly not letting her

Out that fucking house To go get the Walkthrough bag Alright if you think so I don't see I don't see nothing I don't see nothing wrong With what R. Kelly's doing

She's legal She's of age Wait wait wait I'm saying What he's allegedly doing What is he allegedly doing? Having all of them Stand and face the wall

And can't look at him or speak unless he says so That sound like pimp shit to me That shit been going on forever I know some regular niggas that do that I know regular niggas don't First of all we used to do that to the group Let's be clear on something Who's we?

First of all real niggas know That it was a time when groupies didn't have a voice Like if it was groupies in the room If it was rappers And ballplayers Y'all don't speak Unless spoken to Now groupies got platforms

They got social media So they feel like they're celebrities There's groupies That's the problem That's the problem now R. Kelly is taking it back To some real pimp shit I could always tell

Don't look at me Don't speak to me Unless spoken to I could always tell When Maul has been hanging out with his millionaire buddies. What you mean? No, that's real shit, though. That's real, though.

God forbid. I just don't see. We're at Joe's crib talking to women and respecting them. No, I'm not saying don't respect them, but I'm just saying I don't see what the blowup is over what R. Kelly's doing. Now, if they were underage girls, then that's obviously a problem. They're still young. But they're grown women. They're 22 years old. 21, she's 20. Now, if they were underage girls, then that's obviously a problem. They're still young. But they're grown women. They're 22 years old.

21, she's 20. This girl is 21, 22 years old. Like, that's grown. She's an adult. I'm not speaking to the law because, of course, by law, they're okay. I'm saying me, standard-wise, a 50-year-old man manipulating

21-year-old women in his house is a little weird to me. That's all. I think it's a lot. all okay so what's the difference with what Hugh Hefner has done I wasn't condoning Hugh Hefner but you definitely have condoned you don't see nothing wrong with Hugh Hefner's done or what he is are you you know about having a magazine of naked women are you comparing R. Kelly to Hugh Hefner I'm comparing the situation he has women living in his house like they're they're not just not like he's starving them and they're being held hostage.

Like, he just has women. Well, no, that's. I don't see what the issue is. That girl look like she was fucking handcuffed. What are you talking about? Come on, man. If that girl did that same interview without y'all knowing that she was, all this shit came out, y'all wouldn't have said nothing is wrong with this girl.

Now that y'all know it's a backstory, she's being, she's staying with R. Kelly. No, we got the backstory before the interview. That's bullshit. The. Kelly No we got the back story Before the interview That's bullshit The interview didn't come Then the back story Oh this nigga's crazy That's bullshit I don't see nothing wrong with it

With a little bump and grind Yeah man Y'all act like Kelz ain't been talking This shit all his life Why does this surprise anybody? Do you believe that R. Kelly is a pedophile?

Yes With that. But these women are not. That's what I said. I was waiting for you. But that's what I said. This woman is not underage. Join us on our side

of the thinking now. Okay, but this woman is not underage. Hey, that's the part where you abandon what you're thinking and agree with us. But this woman is not underage.

I don't give a fuck. Anyone that's a pedophile is a predator. They're not just specific a predator to younger women. But she's not underage. Anyone that's a pedophile is a predator. They're not just specific. But she's not underage. She's not underage. And Rory's a predator. You can't just.

But this girl ain't underage. There's nothing wrong with it, man. Lose some of the conviction, Rory. This nigga's talking that shit. Yeah, Rory do look like he's feeling some type of way. Like this is hitting a personal point for him. Rory look like he could be in higher learning, too. For sure.

100%. Yes. 1000%. I could make a case that higher learning is about you, Rory. You ran track. I'm just going to let you guys get these jokes here. Wait, you ran track, right? Go ahead.

Talk about it. Let's break it down. Some days when you want to go one against the grain with the clipper, you can look like a skinhead a little bit. You can look a little crazy. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean?

You don't really, you have black friends, but not really. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know. Wait, what happened? Nah, you're right. You are the only white boy I know that's around nothing but black guys. I got some white friends. Do you?

Yeah. Where they at? There's two white people in the Honey Blues and Steph. Those are my friends. Okay. I got some other white friends. Do you? Yeah. Where they at? There's two white people in the Honey Blues of Steph. Those are my friends. Okay. I got some other white friends. Oh, so they're like the token white guys. I got some high school white friends.

They around. Okay. Yeah. I never see you around a lot. I got some college white friends. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Well, friend is loosely based. Higher learning is definitely loosely based on the life of Rory, though. This next thought is loosely based, right? And I don't really remember the two parts. But somehow, as I was listening to the whole album over the weekend, I thought I uncovered two hidden passageway subliminal stanzas. At who? You? No.

Oh, God. We don't need that again. Period. That whole little, and I don't know why I thought about this recently, but I just heard it different. That whole little at your best, you are love part could be a little triple entendre-ish. Yo, quiet is kept. I didn't even connect those dots until you just said that.

Go back and listen to that one part because he stopped talking about Beyonce. Well, no, isn't that? And he started talking about how he used to do it. I was emotionless. That's when it came. Come on. Come on, man. You just left home now.

No, I'm listening. You just left home now. I'm listening. I'm trying to piece it together. I'm trying to piece it together. It's that part. And there's one more that before this podcast is over, I'm going to remember it. But I was like, oh, shit.

That might be kind of ill if he did that. And I don't put that type of stuff past home. But anyway, back to R. Kelly. Maul, I understand what you're saying. He has not been convicted of anything. Right. I get that. I guess in the court of public opinion all of this is

wrong it's a horrible optic it's horrible knowing what we know about our Kelly as far as him on marrying Aaliyah as far as it being as if you want to say it's creepy that he wrote agent nothing but a number if you want to say they're listening some of his music I was was interviewing the Issa girl from Insecure. I love her. She's fucking phenomenal. I was interviewing her, and she was saying that she can't listen to R. Kelly's music anymore because it's from what you're living.

So that's why it's creepy to some when you read this investigative report from BuzzFeed saying that it was very calculated. It was very detailed. So, I mean, that's all. Not saying that legally he's doing anything wrong. His ducks are in a row as far as the ages and the states. It don't sound like he was going to get caught up again. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

So I don't see the problem here. That's all I'm saying. If these women are legal and of age, I don't see the problem. What is he doing wrong? if these women are legal and of age i don't see the problem what is he doing if what her parents are saying then yeah there's an issue that this woman is brainwashed you could see that at least right her parents having an issue no no that's how this leaked the parents said that she was being brainwashed and being held hostage under r kelly along with these other five whatever women yeah but parents just don't understand no no not that. But that whole brainwash shit to me is kind of like, come on, man.

Get out of here with that brainwash shit. It's pimping. That's all this shit sound like is pimping. This the American pimp episode. That's what it sound like to me. I'm just telling you, let's keep a spade a spade. If you brainwashing a woman in their family saying, okay, that nigga's been doing that since how long? You find a girl, you tap into her insecurities.

If that's your game, if that's what you're trying to do, and you bring on your team, that's called pimping. I don't know what R. Kelly would be getting out of it. I mean, he has millions of dollars and all his success and this, that, and third. But, I mean, it sounds like pimping. You can make a case that he likes to take advantage of women. R. Kelly has a sickness. Every genius has a sickness. All right.

His just happens to be his. Listen, we get what we get. I learned that a long time ago. Listen, God, life is as such. You get whatever it is you get. R. Kelly just happened to get that type of sickness. It's a little sticky subject here. Yeah, I get it

I get why it's a fine line But in this case I mean we just have to be fair These women are not underage She's not doing anything That girl looked a little Stressed out though That girl looked like

She could use a chain smoke She looked like she could Go somewhere And you know what I mean Just have a moment to herself Really Yeah I guess I could imagine She didn't look fucked up to y. Really. Yeah, I guess. I could imagine.

She ain't look fucked up to y'all? She looks alright. I've seen girls look like that a lot, though. Yo, Moe, I'm going to LA with you. With me? No. I have to see what you've been seeing. I've seen girls look upset.

I don't know if I want to go to these low spots that he was talking about before. Like they were going through shit? Like you see women all the time dealing with shit. I would never think, oh, somebody's keeping her in the house. You see women all the time dealing with shit. I would never think, oh, somebody's keeping her in the house. Okay, but if you saw one of those women send you a VHS tape of an ISIS-like recording of her responding to an online investigative report, you wouldn't say, ah, hours after it's released. As she looked up to the upper right corner.

There's definitely a coach Behind the camera Oh yeah yeah yeah A coach R. Kelly Was behind the fucking camera She shot that shit In the corner

There was no open space Behind her Yeah yeah man You would think shit Is a little fishy man It was It's definitely It's definitely awkward

It's definitely awkward The whole interview The interview with TMZ Her on the laptop I guess she was FaceTiming. It wasn't an interview. Wait a minute. If that's what you—

Yeah, that wasn't. Wasn't somebody on FaceTime or the laptop asking her questions? That's what it looked like to me. Listen, listen. If that's what Maul— She was doing the Donald Trump avoid the question, I have a rehearsed answer waiting. If that's what Maul calls awkward— Yeah, that was awkward.

I would love to know what you call the elevator door closing and someone's rushing toward it that's funny this is awkward that's funny holy that's funny all right whatever man uh well shit it's a race point uh where do you draw the line with musicians and listening and supporting their music to what they may do in their personal life i still listen listen to Michael Jackson, so I don't know what y'all talking about. Well, how do you feel about Michael Jackson? I feel like Mike was, I don't think Mike ever molested children. I'll say that. I do think that I could see why people felt it was weird that he always wanted kids around

and, you know, the lifestyle that he lived. But I don't think that mike ever did anything to kids though i'm in a way too silly of a mood to even have these conversations honestly no that's just being real i don't think he did just like how some people thought prince was gay because of what he wore and all of that and who would ever think prince is fucking gay half the world i'm just saying but i'm not a fan of artists as people. I'm a fan of their music. So you don't listen to Ike Turner no more either? I'm blessed, Ike, every day.

What you talking about, man? One of the greatest poets of our time. What you mean? I love Ike Turner. We got it. Yo, Moe, what you trying to get our podcast banned? What you mean? I'm just being real.

I'm just being real. We came up with a lot of interesting takes today. I'm just being honest, man. All right, podcast. What y'all want to talk about? R. Kelly. Nah, he good. OJ.

Innocent. What else you want to say? I'm just saying, man. I'm being honest, man. That's just how I feel, man. I don't know how y'all feel about Mike, but I don't think Mike ever touched no kids. I wasn't invested in his personal life. I love Michael Jackson as the artist.

So I will always listen to Michael Jackson. Don't really care. It's terrible. Is that your take, though? Like, on the whole musicians and separating music from the personal life? I'd like to ask Issa Rae if she feels the same way about gangster rap or something like that. It's weird when people pick and choose the issues that they want to stop. Now, like, for example, a lot of people stop listening to Chris Brown because like that. It's weird when people pick and choose the issues that they want to stop. Now, for example, a lot of people stop listening to Chris Brown because of that,

but would still listen to a Bobby Shmurda. It's weird to me when people pick and choose those. I just stay completely out of it. Don't people get to pick and choose? They do. No, I'm not. Who's saying that they don't? But I'm asking why it's weird that people get to pick and choose what they're passionate about.

At that point, I would just separate my music from my artist. I like to listen to their music. If their music is not saying those things and doing them, it's not my business. I want to listen to the music. I'm not invested in the person. I'm invested in the music. So he's basically saying it's just entertainment for him. He's not invested in the personal side of it.

If it's great art, it's great art. If it's great entertainment, it's just entertainment for him he's not invested in the personal side of it like if it's great art is great art if it's great entertainment is great entertainment he's more about the message not the messenger and while i do think we should hold artists to a certain standard what aaron hernandez did because you're a patriots fan is it like one of those no not i think what aaron what Aaron Hernandez did was terrible. You can catch me on anything. I think what he did was terrible, but that didn't stop me from cheering when he scored a touchdown the last before his case. Yeah, I see. That's a little bit for what Aaron has because he had nothing after that.

Once he got locked up, it was like he didn't beat the trial and then go back to the NFL and become the leading receiver. I'm not going to write him a letter. Yeah. I just want to tell y'all that I pictured us starting on a way more fun note than this. I don't care about any of this stuff. Well, we can start. I don't care. I mean, we can get into the fun shit, though.

I don't care. It's a bunch of fun shit to talk about. Listen, pedophilia, R. Kelly. Listen, bro. I wasn't really rushing to put the Chocolate Factory on tomorrow anyway. I mean, but Kels is. Kels is Kels. So you're still going to step in the, but Kel's is, come on. Kel's is Kel's. So you're still going to step in the name of love.

It's cemented. It's cemented already. Absolutely. That's great. I can support music and not support people. That's exactly what I'm saying. I guess. And if I feel a way, I'll illegally download their music.

Sometimes, though, I don't want to subscribe to that. Sometimes if I meet you and you a complete shithead, nah, Duke, we done. I can't hear the music the same. Yeah, I guess if the less I know, the better. Then so be it. But at the same time, I could be called a hypocrite because when it's positive things, it makes me like the

artist a little bit better. When they do positive things outside of their music, I think that's cool. That's false. You're the guy that stuff works on. What do you mean? I always wonder, why do y'all keep giving money to these fucking charities on your release date?

Who is believing this stuff? And here comes Roy. You know, I like him a lot more. Oh, okay. Well, now it works. Now you just made something up that I was happy a rapper gave money on his release date.

It's cool. You can make up a scenario. That is funny. It works on some people, though. It does. I don't pay that shit. No type of money. Neither do I.

I just keep right on browsing. Right. But whatever. So, yeah. What fun happened? I don't know if shit fun happened. Oh, man. Let me get my fucking phone out.

Every time Rory comes in with one of these fucking... Chance in Justice League. You the media guy. You have all the topics, man. Every time you come in with one of these shirts on your laptop, you just look like you're prepared and you never are. So, well, no, sometimes you are. Oh! You should be talking. Do you have a... At this point, you should be talking. Do y'all

have a good Chance in Justice League take here? I'll let Rory go first. I was going to let Mo go first. Or do y'all want to figure it out while I prepare to say

goodbye to Michael Vick? How do I say goodbye? No? I think the idea of getting on the phone with Chance the Rapper and him saying pull up and come get your money is comical to me.

I did enjoy that part of the story. Oh, now we got to dedicate this song to Rook too. Because Rook was scared when Chance said pull up. Now we're just making shit up, but fuck it. Sorry, Rook. I told you the jokes were going to happen, man. Chance telling somebody to pull up is hilarious. Word. But Justice League going to happen, man. Somebody telling, Chance telling somebody to pull up is hilarious. Word.

But Justice League going to lose this one. It's the most fucking liked rapper in the world right now. He's just a liked fucking guy. I love Justice League. Even if they're right,

they're wrong. But Rook got to like, he got to chill, man. Come on, Rook. How do we think Chance told him to pull up? If one more nigga Try to stop me

It's gonna be so That's what he told him Try to stop me again I can picture him Holding his girl's hand His baby Like the family man That he is

And saying Well you know what You can just pull up then In a very polite way He definitely had a three hat on For sure Until he told him to pull up That's a fact

We know that's a fact He probably had some high water no matter what scenario he was in he could have been in the bathroom he definitely had a

three hat on he definitely had a three hat he could have been in the shower with his phone on speaker and that hat still would have been on

that hat sounds so trash he could have been getting a shape up with that hat on it don't look like a bad it's not a bad hat but just when you say the three hat

that's what it is it's the three hat. Which is me. I don't know how else I would describe the hat. It doesn't have a logo. It just says three. Yeah, it's the three hat. Great marketing, though.

Sold a shitload of those hats. I know that. Did they sell them? Hell yeah. Oh, I don't know if I've just seen people rocking three hats. They rocking them Maybe I should go to festivals Who would win the fight

Between Rook and Chance Yeah I don't know too much about Rook Well Rook is Puerto Rican So I mean let's break this down Rook would definitely cut him He would definitely cut Chance Where's Rook from?

Virginia I just feel like Chance I don't put anything past Virginia man Rook is like You know When you're like One of those real skillful producers You usually study different shit

So Rook might know Like a little martial arts Or something Mixed MMA type shit He might have a You know Swords hanging around the house Yeah no

I actually Producers are like that I follow you Producers are just like They collect things Yeah so He might have some nunch swords Hanging around the house Yeah no I actually Producers are like that I follow you Producers are just like They collect things Yeah so He might have some Numb chucks

Like for some odd reason Right And just be in the studio But it takes a different Level of focus To wear a three hat For like three years straight So Chance might have

This sense of focus Where he could actually See the And I think The threat coming I think Chance Wearing overalls Might be detrimental to him

Cause you could pull The overalls That's a quick thing to grab When you're trying To get someone close No but any nigga Any nigga wearing overalls might be detrimental to him because you could pull the overalls. That's a quick thing to grab when you're trying to get someone close. No, but any nigga wearing overalls in 2017 is definitely not to be fucked with. Here's my question. What is Chance mad about if he's the guy that didn't pay? I guess he's mad. I didn't see Chance's reaction.

What were his reactions? He might just be mad at the fact that Rook is even bringing this up on the social platform. It's like, come on, my nigga. You know what i mean like he might just feel a type of way about that i don't think he feels a way about you know just approach it's just where he's doing it like you trying to make it a spectacle now rook you disrespecting the three hat nigga rook definitely disrespecting three hat you can't respect the three The three? Come on, nigga You wanna catch a three-piece? Yeah, man Chance don't That's just so awkward

Like a Chance and Like Chance He be chillin' He ain't bothering nobody How you know what Chance be doing? We have never We have never heard

We have never seen Chance In any other type of like Friction Like there's never Where? Where have you seen it? With anybody? That's why I said

Even if they're right, they'll lose Cause he's the most liked fucking guy ever. Well, who? I missed it. I want to say him and Vic Mensom have been in a little... You know what I mean? A little something at one point. But that's more personal.

That's personal. They know each other. Okay. I don't know what you mean. Like, they know each other. I know. But you just said... He's saying Chance don't be bothering people.

Yeah, I'm talking about like... Oh, of course not. No, no, no. I'm talking about like for people to just pop up and start going. Oh, no, Chance don't bother nobody. Yeah, he's not like that. That's why I don't understand it. He's like that kid on the block.

He'd be like, yo, if you have an issue with him, there's really something wrong with you. He's approachable. He don't be bothering nobody. All right, but that is to Rook's point. We know that that is how Chance is portrayed. We don't know what he does behind the scenes. So Rook is saying, or somebody, Justice League is saying, that behind the scenes, this nigga's the big corporate monster

that he portrays the hate. I'm just repeating what I read in the 90 tweet tweet rant. Well, when you're as successful and in demand as Chance is right now, a record that you produced for him, I don't know how long ago this was They're saying They're saying that this is no problems Okay If he's this big corporate guy though

You not mad at him for not paying You gotta talk to his label Apple Apple's not putting that out Unless everyone's paid You know how that should go With your producers and artists If he's really independent He ain't be mad at Chance

That's like the shit you had with Bink You didn't even know You know what I'm saying The situation with Bink You's like the shit you had with bink you didn't even know that you know i'm saying that the situation with bink you didn't you had no idea what he was talking about no i didn't and then he told you what happened and he was like oh shit okay well let's fix it so i'm guessing maybe chance feels like that's how rook should have approached him behind the scenes maybe rook approached him differently like yo my nigga and he like yo i didn't i don't even remember that. I thought that was taken care of. I didn't know.

On your first album, did you pay anyone that replayed a sample? Like, personally, did you go and be like, yo, here's your money, B? No, Def Jam did. So if he is this big corporate guy, he should be mad at Apple, not at Chance. If Chance is independent, yeah, go straight to Chance. You were the one that was supposed to pay me. No. I don't know what type of agreement they had.

Yeah, you can't tell them who to be mad at. Now, if Chance had a personal agreement with Rook, then that's different. Now, what I will say, I don't really agree with Rook or whoever that was because we can't say it was Rook because Justice League has how many people? Two now? Two or three. Maybe three when they did the record. Two with an asterisk.

Well, we can't say who it was, but whoever it was, I'm not with all that attacking people's personal lives over business matters. During that tweet rant when he started talking about his child's mom or whatever the fuck he was saying. Did y'all remember that part? Briefly, I saw something about child support. It's in bad taste. It's in bad taste. It's in bad taste.

I'm not with that. That's when I clock out. Well, one could make the point that you're fucking with my livelihood by not paying me. But that's just how someone could view it. Fam, it's in bad taste. You can view it that way. But Jesus, that's in bad taste to say. You want to be aware how you come off.

You shouldn't want to come off that way. If you believe in karma, you shouldn't even want to say no shit like that about people. Especially over no music shit. Right. Yeah, that's a quick fix. I was a little shocked because Justice League has been around for so long and from what I know has always been

paid and has always not worked unless they had been paid. I was shocked that his business has been this good and you're going on Twitter to try to solve it. That was weird to me. Well, whoever it was, they said that they sent paperwork. It was being ignored. The lawyers request the label.

They said that it was being ignored. And that was the last option for them. Well, they also said, hey, at this point, we don't care about the money. Do we ever believe people when they say that? No. No, right? No. I didn't think so.

The conversation is being had about money. The cause of the conversation is not being paid. It's cool to say this isn't about the money. It's about the principle. But that's never really what it is. I was just about to say to you, you don't think some things could start at money and end at principal? I don't think Justice League

is hurting for money at all but I mean it's still money. I still think they're interested in that. Actually I think I could see this starting as principal

and now ending up about money. Actually. Well if it started out quietly just to the lawyer and trying to get paid no. That's why I think principal might I would feel a way if the nigga that owe me money Well if it started out quietly Just to the lawyer And trying to get paid No That's why I think

Principal might I would feel a way If the nigga that owe me money Got money I mean That's just the bottom line So I don't know what business dealings

They had But Chance got it Yeah cause I've done that Niggas that owe me money You see them with a new outfit on You start adding up Those $200 jeans Them sneakers about $150 This nigga owe me a rack Fuck that with a new outfit on you start adding up those $200 jeans them sneakers about $150

this nigga owe me a rack. Fuck that on 44-4 jeans and shit. I know those are expensive. Yeah, that's crazy. I need mine. Maul has the only pair of 444 jeans.

Oh, okay. I thought Justice League may have seen Chance with a pair and thought damn, he got Bray. I don't know who to side with in this Justice League Chance debacle because I don't know who to believe with in this Justice League chance debacle

because I don't know who to believe, really. Yeah, I'm not siding with anybody. Chance got money. Justice League got money. I think the enemy here is Apple. Apple is separating two great artists. Separating two great artists. Shut the fuck up, man.

Then there goes the Apple bag. Are we going to say goodbye To Michael Vick now? Why are we saying bye? Come on man Cause he told Colin to cut his hair? Yes Don't

Don't Don't Don't I mean we're gonna talk about it Let's just talk about it It's pimp shit It's definitely pimp shit But

I do Here's the thing I understand I understand It's definitely pimp shit. But I do, here's the thing. I understand what Mike Vick was trying to say. Tell me. I don't think that he should have said it. He was basically saying, bro, you got to play the game. Just change your image because you got all the talent in the world.

Just change your image. You know what I'm saying? You can still get your point across. You can still do these things like this, but you got all the talent in the world. Just change your image. You know what I'm saying? You can still get your point across. You can still do these things like this, but you got to kind of just, you got to play the game. You got to dance for master. You got to play the game. There's ways to do it. You could be, you know, this righteous activist that I love. I love Colin Kaepernick for everything that he's doing.

I salute him. But I do think he has to find a way to play the game he got to understand how to how to how to play their game yeah but doing everything that he's done and going back to playing the game kind of just makes everything he did before this kind of pointless no i don't think so see that's what i'm saying you got to learn you got to know how to play. Colin Kaepernick's strength and his message will be received better if he's, or he would have a bigger platform if he's on the field. Let's just paint the scenario. If Colin Kaepernick gets signed, right, and he has the year that he had when he went to the Super Bowl, right?

Yes. Let's just say he has a year close to that. With all of this that he's trying to accomplish, this message, do you know how powerful his movement becomes then well you don't think like right now if you're blackballed just for that exact reason so i understand he can't play and get that notoriety because now he's only known as the guy that is pro-black and is disrupting quote-unquote the nfl i mean marshawn lynch is pro-black marshawn lynch is very pro. He's never hid that.

Not in the way. You make the wildest fucking parallels. No, I'm just saying. Marshawn Lynch, he speaks out against it. He's not, y'all don't fuck with you media. I don't fuck with these outlets, da, da, da, da. And they killed him for it. I'm doing my thing.

I only fuck with who I fuck with. He told Deion Sanders when they say, me, I'll give you an interview because you know what I'm saying? You my man. In other words, we from the same cloth. I don't know all this other shit what I'm saying you my man like in other words like we from the same cloth like I don't all this other shit I'm saying there's ways to

I think Marshawn Lynch saying I'm just here so I don't get fined is nowhere near Colin Kaepernick going on one knee during the national anthem it's not the same message

if you have to stand stand that don't mean you you can tune out the national anthem Marshawn Lynch was a catchphrase you don't have to sing they're not asking him to sing the national anthem well up now Rory don't mean you You can tune out the national anthem Marshawn Lynch was a catchphrase You don't have to sing They're not asking him

To sing the national anthem Well, hold up now Rory, don't talk too down On our black heroes now Colin and Marshawn What are you talking about? Whatever, nigga I'm in defensive

I don't give a fuck How am I on your side That you made it seem like Watch your tone Watch your tone I looked up You was white Yeah

Your tone was a little crazy Your tone I just zoned out All right Sensitive subject He made it seem like I was. Watch your tone. Watch your tone. I looked up. You was white. Yeah. Your tone was a little crazy. Your tone. I just zoned out. All right. Sensitive subject. But no, but I'm saying, I think he has to, Colin has to be on the field. His message is on a greater platform if he's on the field. Right now, he just.

You know what's funny about what you're saying? At some point, he was back on the field. They gave him his job back, his starting job. And he stunk it the fuck up. Yeah. So that didn't help his cause. That didn't help. Right.

So, I mean, in your scenario, everything has to be perfect. He has to perform like he did in the Super Bowl. No, I'm not saying he has to. I'm saying can you imagine what it will do for his message if he comes back and performs at half that level that he was at before. I mean, now you got so many people looking because now everybody, you know, that's against his message wants him to fail. If he were given the chance to do that, there would be no need for him to have the message. Given a chance to play? They're not going to give him a chance to play.

That was my next question. Is he over the line now? Is he going too far to go back to playing a game? I think that's to what Joe just said. I think. Because if you can't even get a tryout, it's hard. But I think it's more difficult now because, like Joe said, he stunk it up when he came back. So now they're like.

There's a point the other side could make and say, yeah, we gave him a shot and he was terrible. Yeah, but I think that's what they're leaning more on now. It's not about what he's saying in his message. But I don't think cutting his hair is going to solve anything. No, that's definitely not going to solve anything. Well, he's a distraction. He stunk it up. And at this point, he would be a backup to third string quarterback, but he'd be a real expensive one.

So, I mean, he got a lot of things working against him. Listen, man, like you said, sometimes you too woke. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you can be too woke. Mike Vick got to shut the fuck up, though. Nah, for real. Coming from Mike, I mean, it was kind of like, damn, you from VA. You from like the hood.

Yeah, you got to chill. And what Mike Vick represented when he first got in the league. He did it his way. He was doing shit his way. Very much so. He was his own, you know what I mean? So, like I said, I understand what Mike was trying to say. But he shouldn't have said it like that.

I understand what he was trying to say. Like, cut your hair. In other words, like, fam, you got to play the game. You got to know how to massage. You know what I'm saying? Like, the situation to your benefit. And you know what else I didn't like about that? Was that on Jason Whitlock's show?

Maybe. I don't know what platform it was on. I think it was. And I didn't like that either. I'm like, really, Mike? You want to go coon out on coon boy's show? Whatever. Yo, so Game of Thrones happened last weekend or this past weekend.

On Sunday, yeah. And I wanted to just say that because it's a real big show and I know you guys are real excited about it. Yeah, can't wait. I've never seen it. I think there are like seven seasons. I've never seen an episode of Game of Thrones. I've never seen that one episode of Game of Thrones. I have no idea what the hype is about.

The last episode I seen the Game of Thrones a big fucking somebody's crushed somebody's head with their bare hands. Nice. That was like Asia did kind of school me to what

the concept is. Pardon me. I think I would watch it. I just haven't. I don't normally like shows that are set up in like the medieval times.

I was just about to say that renaissance weird I've never been into it. Harry Potter shit. Shit with magic, I've just never been that into, I guess. Like real shows. I mean, you kind of look like a wizard. Yeah, no, I get it.

I don't see why you wouldn't like magic. You have that hat on, and I look like a wizard. It's the beard. I think it's too red. Oh, yeah, I'm just noticing this little beard thing you got going on. I always had a beard. You do look like the fucking Skipper 2, the millionaire and his wife. The movie star.

The professor and Larry. Yeah, okay. Yo, I was saying something just now before I started fucking laughing at your hat. Game of Thrones. And it was important. Fuck. What was y'all just talking about? Game of Thrones.

Oh, listen. Power, right? Every week, there's been something. Something is funny about Power, man. They're rushing the writing in Power. How so? They're rushing the writing? Say that five times.

I feel like some of the scenes, they are rushing the writing in Power. Yeah. Really, Proctor? Tommy in the closet? I told you not to come out come on not for real give it to me tommy really the killer was a little weird that was a little odd to me i will agree with you there excuse me that was awkward and and how it was shot it was just funny watching him come out the shadows and stab an old boy no the funny i did kind of i didn't give a whoa moment it was more of a laughing moment.

The funniest shit to me was them saying that there was a conflict of interest with the Proctor and Ghost and Tommy. I'm like, but there's not a conflict of interest with Angela and fucking Ghost?

Like, the case? Well, I think they haven't revealed that. They know that, but I don't think the judge knows that. And then, really, Angela? All of this shit occurred? now you decide to ask for the footage that wasn't come on really i'm just telling you about what i'm seeing on the tv

you don't think some of this stuff is a bit rushed now i felt like that not rushed maybe just bad writing i think it's on pace for what it should be going, but maybe bad writing is rather. Come on, man. Listen, I said the same thing when they brought back the last season's cliffhanger of 50 kidnapping the kid with tell him we was playing. Really? Tell him we was playing on your phone? Yeah. Come on, man. Listen, I love Power Like Y'all.

It's still one of my favorite shows. Yeah, no, definitely. But it is getting a Like Y'all. It's still one of my favorite shows. Yeah. No, definitely. But it is getting a little cheesy, though. It's getting a little unbelievable. They have to catch them little spots that didn't exist really last season. Yeah. I kind of felt like that when 50 made it out that fire. Yeah, come on, man. He picked a lot from the inside and made it out.

I was kind of like, all right. Yeah, come on. They got to stop. They got to stop. And then your man said, yo, send me two shots and a bottle of effing over for my man. Nobody ever ordered a bottle of effing to a table. That was a hilarious fucking product placement. But I hate, that shit is so, that almost caused me to stop watching it.

A little shit like that bothers me. It really does. I hate that. It was great. They took the shot, and then she took the bottle back. But I hate that. They didn't even get the bottle. I hate that. I don't like, that's just so corny to me. Forced product placement. Yeah, took the bottle back. But I hate that. They didn't even get the bottle. I hate that.

I don't like that. That's just so corny to me. Forced product placement. Yeah, it's so corny. I hate that, man. So then this is what else I noticed, and this is just my brain. In the scene where the distro, the new distro, what's his name? Tommy's man, ghost man.

The Spanish nigga. I know what you're talking about. The Spanish nigga with the big tattoo on his neck. He's got the 718 shit on his neck. Is it Julio? I think it's Julio. I think it's Julio. With the 718 shit.

Yeah, I think his name is Julio. In that scene where he's having a conversation with the other dude, he was a Spanish dude with a blue jacket, about how Tommy ran over his mans. All these are spoiler alerts, by the way, if you've never seen this. Too late. But in that scene, boy, he got severely out-acted. Yeah.

Like, in some of these scenes where these niggas, the newer niggas without Ghost, the bad acting is jumping out the screen. Well, I've always said, this is an unpopular opinion, I don't think Tommy, I don't know what his real name is in real life, love the character. He has his moments where he's really shitty acting It feels a little forced

Come on Tommy Yeah I don't know his name in real life I heard a lot of people Joseph Sikora I think I didn't fact check that Yeah

I know his name is Joseph He's forever Tommy now Yeah I thought Turtle When he was drunk Was terrible I like Proctor No I love In front of Angela's door Yeah No that's the only time I haven't liked him When he was drunk was terrible. I like Proctor. No, I love him.

In front of Angela's door? Yeah. No, that's the only time I haven't liked him, when he was pretending to be drunk. Yeah. That scene was a little weird to me. Yeah, I didn't like that. I thought that was awesome. What do we think of the old mob dude in Ghosts?

Where that's going to lead to? Somehow, someway, I think they're going to join forces. They better get to the shit. Yeah, they're going to. I think they're going to join forces. Yeah, I think so. I think they're going to join forces. They better get to the shit. Yeah, they're going to. I think they're going to join forces. Yeah, I think so. I think they're going to come somehow together. Yeah, I think so.

I still think it's Tommy's dad somehow connected. I know that theory went out the way, but I think it's coming back. Yeah, I just laugh any time somebody says join forces. They will be in cahoots by the end of the season. Why is join forces funny? Yo, you are so stupid. Why is joint forces funny to you? Why is that funny?

It's funny now that you say it. Like, I'm laughing at it. Because I think I kind of understand why you're saying it. When did niggas join forces? I would love to join forces with someone. You did. When? Slaughterhouse joined forces.

Y'all joined forces with Eminem. Y'all kind of joined forces. You got a couple of joined forces in your life. Yo, you might be Mr. Joined Forces now that I think about it. Yo, I'm about to get it. Hold on. Yeah, you might be Joined Force Joe from that one. That's your new name. You join forces with Complex.

I can't even say that shit. Chris. You always go to the nigga laughing too hard. Yo, Chris, chill. I hear you. I hear you. Chris over here having a blast. Nigga.

That'd be the worst. Join Force Joe. Join Force Joe Join Force Joe That's your new name man I'm telling you Do I join forces like that? Yes man Yes

You are the king Of Join Force Slaughterhouse Who else I join forces with? Complex Pause Well Slaughterhouse Joined forces with Eminem

Wait Did he say He joined He did I'm not I'm not even getting into that Nadeska Complex You join forces with them You know what I mean? Like I mean He joined He did I'm not I'm not even getting into that Nadeska Complex

You joined forces with them You know what I mean Like I mean You were king of joined forces You and Ry guy The crew I joined forces

Yeah With Nadeska Yeah Got it I'm just saying That's who you are That's cool though You joined force Joe

Alright we got it We got it We got it Now i don't even remember the fuck we was talking about again we were talking about power and joining forces and ghost and the mob dude joining forces oh man we never talked about true religion going bankrupt i didn't even know they went bankrupt man that's real news is that real seriously that's real news? Is that real? Seriously? That's real. They're out of business.

It's over. That is hilarious, man. What news outlet did you read that on? Nigga, this is two weeks old. We late on this news. Everybody was sad about three weeks ago. Nobody ain't wearing true religion no more, man. I was about to say, you might be the only one still wearing true. Nah, Joe don't even wear true religion no more.

I gave all mine to Dill. Yeah, Joe don't wear. I haven't seen Joe Wearing true religious In dumb long Yeah no Don't catch me I gave all my True religions to Dill

And Ish is the only one That's still wearing like Boot cut jeans Hey How many niggas Y'all know That's still wearing Boot cut jeans

Any nigga still wearing Boot cut jeans Either just came home From jail Or he about to go right back. But when did bootcut jeans start being whack?

Because they don't make I know they're whack. I know they're whack. Yeah but they don't it's just the way fashion is is heavily like right now

fashion like plays alongside sneakers. So you can't wear bootcut jeans with a lot of these dope sneakers that are out now because all of these sneakers are, like, form-fitting to your foot.

They're like socks. I used to wouldn't even buy the True Religions that wasn't bootcut. Yeah, because you had to. Because you had ACGs on. That's why. Yeah, like, you was wearing boots. You was wearing big, bulky, like, LeBrons and shit like that. Now all of the dope sneakers that you wear fashionably are runners.

Like, you don't even wear basketball sneakers like that no more with your clothes. Everything is a jogger now. Delpham, I went to Barney's today. Oh, man. I now remember why I don't go shopping. Well, number one, I hate shopping. But when you go shopping. Were you trying to return something?

No. I was looking for some shit I should have been buying, but I saw some shit in there. I don't know this gentleman's name, but there's some designer out there who's making shit out of old shit, and he's sick. I should have took pictures of this stuff. I'm crying at this plug.

I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, this person is known. I'm sure. That's why I'm saying it like this. But he got a collection he did with Montclair that's... I should have took pictures. Montclair's done some great collabs over these past few years. And he's got some other shit that look like he had money written all over it.

See, fashion guys are joining forces. See? I don't like that Supreme Louis Vuitton bullshit. I don't like... They got a couple of pieces that's dope, though. I don't like the whole... Iitton bullshit I don't like they got a couple of pieces that's dope though I don't like the whole I know it's just a fad for the moment it's not gonna be here a year or two from now but certain pieces I've seen I'm like that's that ain't bad no it's funny when um me Ian and Elliot took our GQ meeting Ian and Elliot was mad at me

because I went in there basically on some Joe shit, trying to tell them what they should and should not be doing and where they should be looking for for fashion. But, you know, it's GQ, so it's older white people, and they're like, we're GQ and you're fucking Joe Budden. You're going to get your little bum ass to fuck out of our office. But a lot of what I was saying to them in there certainly is happening. I was just trying to tell them that to get with a newer, fresher, younger audience,

you got to look to where they're looking for style, which is A$AP Rocky and fucking whoever the fuck these people are. So, yeah, they didn't listen. Yeah, I'm sure they didn't listen to you, Joe. Yeah, but you know what's funny? They do their once a year. You know what's funny, though? Go on GQ's Instagram page right now, though. And that's the only reason I even say that,

because they was in there asking what the fuck to do, and I swear they posted some shit the other day. It was like, ah. Shit. ASAP trying to bring back bootcut jeans. I don't know if you've seen him lately. He's wearing baggy jeans with bootcuts at the bottom. I've not seen him lately.

He's going to have a hard time turning the tide on that one. I don't know if baggy jeans. I'm not going back. I'm not either. I'm not seen him. He's going to have a hard time turning the tide on that one. I'm not going back. I'm not going back. It's too late now. I have fully converted. Oh no more. I'm weird. I'm weird. All the way tight jeans. He wears jeggings. Yeah. Not even really denim. It's elastic. Super comfortable too. But you know what's funny about that? Like when you look at a lot of old movies That was the way they wore their jeans in the 70s and 80s They wore fitting Wranglers and Lees They were fit Like those jeans weren't baggy

That's why I don't understand Like when they get mad at the people wearing slim jeans I'm like Nigga my pops was wearing slim jeans in the 70s Like what are you talking about? Yeah You know what I'm saying? There was only an 8 year span Where there was baggy jeans that were popping.

Yeah. From the whole world. Have y'all ever heard Dolly Castro talk? I don't think so. Dolly Castro. Why do I know that name? Who is she? Wait.

Or he. Oh, that's the fitness, the model? Yeah, man. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know I knew the name. I just couldn't. I heard her talk. Did she sound okay?

Is she all right? Is she all right? The fuck are you listening to? Was this an RKATMZ interview? I heard her talk. It ruined everything, man. She doesn't sound sexy? It's over.

It's over, man. Are you that shallow, Joe? No, you're not. You're not that shallow. Wait, what? You're not that shallow. Yes, I am. No, you're shallow Joe? No you're not You're not that shallow Wait what? You're not that shallow Yes I am No you're not Yes I am

No you're not I am No you're not I'm telling you Shut up man No you're not No you're not I'm trying to come to it

I'm trying to come to it I don't believe you Why not? Because I've seen you like I've seen you in settings With different women And I don't think You're that shallow You actually get mad At a dude if he's that shallow I've seen you in settings with different women, and I don't think you're that shallow.

You actually get mad at a dude if he's that shallow. I've seen you do that. Wait, what? I'm confused. What are we mad at her about? What did I say that's shallow? And when did I get mad at someone? Okay, so basically her voice doesn't match her beauty, I guess.

So he's kind of like, it ruined it for him. It ruined the allure. I mean, not for me. I got a woman. No, I'm just saying. We're just talking about You saw this beautiful woman And then the voice

I didn't I didn't put that voice To that I get it I know exactly what you're saying Is it strictly just the voice Or what she was saying No I don't know

What she was saying He's not that See Joe's not that shallow man I don't know who this new Joe is But that's not you man Because I didn't understand Sweat

Sweat pant I just asked if you were that shallow not you, man. It's because I didn't understand. Sweatpants? I just asked if you were that shallow, and you said, yes, you are. No, you're not, man. Tell me what's shallow about that, though. Because her voice wasn't appealing? When did I say anything about it being appealing? More than the friend that be trying to get you in trouble. Because you just said it ruined.

He was like, eh, it's over. What's over? That's what I'm trying to say. So it's like, no, Lord. You're just like, ah. No, you know what it is? Let me tell you what it is. Okay, tell me what it is, my nigga.

What it is, my nigga. What it is. Let me tell you what it is. Okay. And this is about to sound mad ignorant. That's what I'm saying. Are you not this shit? Go ahead.

I am today. Okay, today. Go ahead. Listen, I feel like sometimes chicks be knowing like... I feel like I've watched 90 million Dolly Castro videos and she's never said a word. Got you. So when I hear her talk, now I start to think, oh, you've been hiding your voice. You understand.

Oh, you've been doing this on purpose. That's our insecurity. So now I feel like the wool's been pulled over my eyes. I feel like everything is a lie. The wool has been pulled over my eyes. So I don't think that's shallow. I had a girl. I've never said a word to Dolly Castro.

I know you have a girl. I know you've never said a word to her. Oh, shit, is that sin? No, it's actually Dolly Castro. Hey, don't scare me. Is that sin It's actually It's actually a Dalai Castro Hey don't scare me Is that sin Yeah I'm paranoid

So wait you found Let me see I'm on her Instagram page It looked like she was About to speak She just foreign dickhead I like the laugh I like the smile She just foreign, dickhead. I like the laugh.

I like the smile. I'm still locked in. I don't know what the fuck Joe's talking about. She just foreign. That's all. Oh, I have a problem with foreign girls. Paint that picture. Let's hear that joke play out.

Yeah. I don't know. Joe just probably had this girl six sex voice in his head for her and that's not what it was so now he's just like nah that voice is a little yeah oh it's just a real latin voice she you could tell she's like really spanish like really really spanish not like raised in dykeman spanish like yeah she's really she's really spanish like Raised in Dykeman Spanish Like really Spanish She's really She's really Spanish Like her parents Might not know English

She might not know English Like for real That's how That's how thick That Latin Like that voice is Like she She was raised in a pure

Latin speaking house I was just trying I was just being funny I know I get it I'm still locked in though Like I don't know What this nigga talking about

This nigga telling me about How way she was raised And her upbringing No I'm just saying like I'm still locked in though Like I don't know What this nigga talking about This nigga telling me about How way she was raised And her upbringing No I'm just saying like I don't care nigga I've heard that voice before You about to go find Her cam soda page

She got a cam soda page She got one Y'all with this cam soda shit Is crazy Wait who's y'all I'm just saying The only time I ever even Hear about cam soda

Is from one of y'all I hate when Maul Act like he on Cam Soda What you mean? I've never been on that shit Nigga Maul has 500 Maul has 500 coins

On Cam Soda right now A nigga got my name Man get the fuck out of here man You better stop it What you mean? That's a nigga on Cam Soda Saying it's you Get the fuck out of here man

With Maul, Mad Underscores And a million coins Get the fuck out of here man I ain't mall mad underscores and a million coins. Get the fuck out of here, man. I ain't on no fucking cam soda. That nigga was crazy out your mind, man. Cam soda? Man, get the fuck out of here. You about to fuck your laptop up.

Oh, my God. Look at you, man. What are you doing, man? Yeah. Look, you about to fucking the N button don't work on your laptop. Damn. Fucked up with my C button. Go ahead and try to type something with a C.

You became a blood? You got a blood laptop? You just got jumped in? Yeah, you hit him all with his Harlem accent. Fucking Cam Soda. Cam Soda. Nah. All right, hold on, man.

He's sleeping. Where do y'all? All right, come on. Let's be serious for a second. Oh, this is great. I was serious about Cam Soda. Tim. All right, hold on, man. You're sleeping. Where do y'all... All right, come on. Let's be serious for a second. Oh, this is great. I was serious about Camp Soda. Timbaland and Swiss. Mm-hmm.

Is it actually going to happen? Because I hope that little exchange on Instagram was not the beat battle. It's going to happen. We've had this conversation before, and I feel like both of y'all voted Timbaland. No. I've been very vocal on this podcast that I am not a big fan of Timberland's hip hop beats, which I think a majority

of a beat battle would probably be. So I'm going to go with Swizzy in a battle. I went with just over Swizz and I was wrong, I guess. But yeah, I'm taking Swizz over that.

Even if it's the same fucking snare pattern all day. I'm still taking Swizzy. I hear you, but I mean, I don't think it's gonna be like i got a lot i see a lot of people saying timbaland gonna wash this nigga no it's not gonna be like that because because swiss got production and shit that people don't even know is his his music but i think timbaland might he might he might have this one though i'm going with him if i had to choose i would go with timbaland You might have this one, though. I'm going with Timbaland.

If I had to choose, I would go with Timbaland. No, I'm not rolling. I mean, if y'all, are they in Miami? I don't care where they are. Shit. I just think with a beat battle, it's... Fuck you mean you don't care where they are? They could be right here doing it. I feel like Timbaland...

With Swizzy's drums... Shit, I think Timbaland is just great with pop and R&B. I think he's amazing at that. And I think he's just good at hip-hop. And I think in a beat battle hip-hop is really

what's winning. And Swizzy is amazing at that. I think his beats are going to hit harder in a rap battle... Or pardon, in a beat battle

than Timbaland. Timbaland's shit may ride cooler, but it wouldn't... I will say the back and forth they put out wasn't too impressive for me. At all. I wasn't really feeling that.

Yeah, I was a little upset. That who put out? Timbaland and Swizzy put out Instagram videos. Yeah, like just little teases at each other. I didn't really fuck with the Tim beat. The Swizz one was cool. I assume it would have more production value if they actually battled. And Timbo made me uncomfortable.

He was, like, trying to get those other two strange girls to agree that the beat was hard. Yeah. And he was just giggling. They didn't know. The crazy shit is in that type of shit, in that type of setting, I see A-Rap giving all of them niggas a problem. With that type of setup, like, give me my NPC, let's just go back. I see A-Rab giving a lot of these

Legendary producers a run If two people with an NPC A-Rab's probably cleaning everybody up That's what I'm saying I'm waiting for somebody to call him out And that type of shit Well that's a real beat battle Come on

A real beat battle is when you both got NPCs That's what I'm saying I'm waiting for somebody to call A-Rab out Call A-Rab out. Call A-Rab out. I don't think anyone's that stupid. Why not? It's a B battle. Hold up now.

Listen, I fuck with A-Rab. That's my guy. Yeah. So y'all... All right, let me just freestyle a name real quick.

A-Rab versus Alchemist. Here's where... Exactly. I'm just saying if you don't know yet. Of course not. But if we're doing the NPC shit, I think A-Rab's...

Because I think showmanship is part of that too. A-Rab looks nuts on an NPC. It's like watching something that's not real. And Alchemist is amazing. I would never discredit Alchemist. A-Rab is more of a performer when he's doing that shit. Yeah, I think he would go

ham with their showmanship there. I think Alchemist would just make an amazing beat. Yeah, Alchemist is going to make something and let it rock. But A-Rab going.

A-Rab going to switch that beat every five seconds. He's going to perform. It's a performance. I would want to see it. A-Rab versus Dahi. I think same thing With the showmanship

Yeah Yeah I would like to see A-Rab And like Harry Fraud That would be dope To listen to Harry Fraud would be good That would be hard

To listen to A-Rab versus Harry Fraud I would definitely I would go to that I don't even want to Watch that online I would go to that Where y' that. I don't even want to watch that online. I would go to that. Where y'all doing this at?

I want to see that. Well, that's what I was mad about, the Just Blaze and Swizz one. Because we had to watch it on a shitty stream, and we couldn't really hear it the way we, like, they should have sold tickets to us. Damn, that's what I'm saying. And streamed it correctly, get the audio great. Who wins A-Rab, Harry Fraud? Are they, again, are they on the NPCs, live? Yes. A-Rab Harry Frog are they again

are they on the NPCs live A-Rab I'm taking A-Rab that's what I'm saying y'all just gonna pick A-Rab over everybody

because he can do the fucking tricks it's not even about tricks it's like it's not like he's just banging on shit making noise he's actually going

with the beat the beats are nuts that he's playing like he ain't just making noise of course I know that they may not be great to rap over

when he does that type of shit but but that's what I'm saying they're not making beats to rap over exactly what's the better beat yeah

and granted A-Rab can make those beats but when he does that MPC shit it's just but Harry Frode his beats his music is so like

it just it's a little more laid back yeah fuck you good on that. You know, so sometimes for the podcast, I save topics by just liking the topic so I can go back to it. So as I'm reading my likes, I guess I like a bunch of stupid shit too. T-Bar's going to tweet.

This was 18 days ago. I ain't one to gossip, but I heard that new TLC album is available now on iTunes. Nigga gonna tweet. Man, y'all chasing waterfalls. See? That's what I'm saying. Like, come on, man.

Wait, is there really a TLC album out there? Yes! The one that we all paid for? The one that y'all paid for? Who the fuck is we all? I didn't pay T-Moz. I fucked up, man. T-Moz didn't get a dime. I filed it on my taxes.

From me. Sorry. Wait, so that album actually came out? Yeah. Oh, I missed all that. Let's see here. Let's see. First of all, when you start something with I Ain't Wanna Gossip, you're definitely gossiping, though.

And you've definitely done it before. That is gossiping. About your own album? Fuji's put out a new record. Come on, come on, come on. With Lauren? And Wyclef? Or did Praz just put something out?

What do you mean, come on, come on, come on? What? Nothing, man. Go ahead. I'm just not on. I'm not here for a Fuji record right now. I'm just being honest, man. I don't want to hear that shit. So you're not even going to click it? A Fuji album?

No, a Fuji record. No, I don't want to hear a Fuji record. I'm not here for that, man. Let's just be real. I respect the Fujis and what they've done and all that. There's a lot of shit I don't want to hear from. Yeah, but I don't want to here for that, man. Let's just be real. I respect the Fugees and what they've done and all that. There's a legend I don't want to hear from. Yeah, but I don't want to hear that shit, man. Okay.

Fuck. Man, no fucking Fugee record. Yo, I got to find out what more I was doing. Two fucking Lawrence and Baby Follower. I wasn't doing, I was chilling, man. This nigga was doing something out there. Nah, man. They had the Sister Act 2 on HBO yesterday, and I was just watching the training camp for artists

to end up fucking their group mates and ruining everything. I realize the same scenario happened from Sister Act 2 with City High and the Fugees. Maul definitely was in Sister Act 2 and City High. Joe is on the road today, huh? So two members Of City Howard With Whoopi Goldberg Tell me more

Joe wrote the 16 After two niggas Kicked at the head Why did they put that verse there? You wrote it What are you talking about? You still getting royalties From that

Who are you talking about? That verse shouldn't have been there That was you Wait let me play that again That was you That was not me You definitely wrote Are you down with G.O.D. You definitely wrote Are you play that again. That was you. That was not me. You definitely wrote, you down with G-O-D.

You definitely wrote, are you down with G-O-D? Because OPP was hot. He from Jerge. He gave Tretchen him a look. I get it. I see where you was going with it. Just didn't connect.

Just connect like I want to. No, I didn't connect, man. That's funny shit. All right, let me see, man. Man, if Calvin Johnson look at the fuck out of here. Wait. Calvin Johnson wants to the fuck out of here. Wait. Calvin Johnson wants to play for the Raiders.

Everybody just trying to be in Vegas, man. For real. Niggas just trying to be in Vegas. That's all that is. I wonder if Marshawn knew that shit before he announced it. Yo, this is crazy. Yeah, of course he did. That's the only reason he came back.

What? Knew what? That they were moving to Vegas. I thought he just wanted to stay in Oakland because that's where he's from. But, yeah. Nah, they know. Vegas? Oh, yeah.

So, did we find out from Ice when the Lux-Arsenal battle is or no? I think he said August, but don't quote me. I thought it was coming up, like August. Lux versus Arsenal? Yeah. Lux versus Arsenal. Yeah. Lux versus Arsenal. They're battling. I think this is supposed to be Arsenal's last battle.

Oh, boy. I know that. Is that like when the strippers say they're retiring? I hate that. We don't believe that. Don't ever say that. If Jay is still actively making music, rappers and battle rappers should still be actively making music. I mean, people do that all the time just to build hype around their last whatever.

Yeah, but you always end up coming back looking crazy. Just like, yo, I thought you was done. Just don't say, if you done, just be done. Don't ever actively put out music anymore. Don't announce it. No, I was happy that Kobe announced it. Sometimes I want to announce it. But that's different from music.

Physically, because you have to be physically in. It's August 5th is when it's happening. Yeah, I thought it was my brother's birthday, August 5th. Do we think that Arsenal can beat Lux? Yes. I'm a casual battle rap fan. Let's make that clear. It depends on which Lux shows up.

Yeah. Lux's battle was the last one against Mook, right? He hasn't battled since then? Or has he? No, he battled Clips. He battled Charlie Clips since then. Okay, yeah, you're right. I did see that.

I just feel like Lux is a little slower than he used to be. And I think Arsenal is not. I think Lux got a little gimmicky. Well, that became his thing. Yeah, he got a little gimmicky. What, kicking knowledge? Kicking knowledge. Just the way he was trying to do it.

I get it, though. I wouldn't think the kicking knowledge. I just think the props and to do it. I get it though. I wouldn't think the kicking knowledge. I just think the props and the fucking outfits. I'm not mad at that. That's all part of the entertainment to me.

But that became his thing. I just think that he always, he got into where now he was trying to break down the battle rap as a person. Like, you know what I mean?

For everybody. Yeah, for everybody. Like, yeah. It's like, you know what I mean? Like, you're going to have a couple dope bars in there because you're Lux. You can do that. But it's like, people start looking at it like, you know what I mean? You're going to have a couple dope bars in there because you're Lux. You can do that,

but it's like, people start looking at it like, we don't want to hear this. You're going to just break down every battle rapper now in their flaws

and their vices. Like, come on, man. But, I mean, if Lux just show up with bars to talk slick,

I got to go with Lux. Well, that'd be interesting. Definitely different because Arsenal's always going to come super aggressive, mad gun bars. I mean, all Arsenal got to go with that. Well, that'll be interesting. Definitely different because Arsenal's always going to come super aggressive, mad gun bars. I mean, all Arsenal got to do is watch. If you let Arsenal watch Pokemon for two weeks straight and get all his references together, you're in trouble.

Because that nigga got the craziest cartoon arcade game references ever. He just got to wake up early on Saturday. Yeah, he'd be saying shit to his boss. I'd be like, yo, how do you even remember that but that game is 22 years old ours do have a lot of cards he'd be like down left right down left up right start power be wait so he'd be doing the gun code from he still remember it he still know that I'm looking forward to that though it's in Jersey in New York you know who I really. You know who I really like? Who? Battle rap.

I like Goodz, man. I like Goodz. I watched his battle last night with T-Top. I like Goodz, but I didn't watch that battle yet. Yeah, I watched his battle with T-Top, man. I like Goodz. I like Goodz. You would like Goodz, though.

Yeah, I think that he's underrated in that battle shit, though. I don't hear a lot of people saying they like him. But every battle I listen to him, I'm like, yo, he, this nigga's alright. Like he be spitting. He got a lot of slick balls with him that I think

a lot of niggas miss. But I just like, I like his like, his delivery. I like the way he presents. I like, I like Goods. Did he win this battle?

Yeah, he won that battle. So he beat T-Top, yeah. I think T-Top might've got the first round, but then I think two and three went to Goods.

All right. I knew I was out the loop when I didn't know that Rex and Sean were beefing. That's when I knew I took a long step out of battle rap. Even watching the Goods battle, man, it's like they got too much shit. When you're watching it now, it's like after somebody raps, it's like a commercial or an ad. Oh, yeah, I'm cool. It's like after somebody raps it's like a commercial or oh yeah i'm cool it's like come on man like yeah like i don't want they're cutting like they're fading the beat in on the nigga last like bar and a half it's like y'all don't want to hear like it's like come on man i feel like they lost the casual fans after math punched uh series jones at that summer madness

nah they still was hot after that no I'm not saying they were I'm just feel like a lot of casual the summer madness is what casual fans always watched and paid attention to yeah that's true and that kind of fell off with that I think yeah who do you I think is the better artist Memphis Bleak or Meek Mill pardon me I don't know if it's fair to compare yet but I'm to go with Memphis Bleak because he has a lot more hit records. I don't think a lot of people feel like that. You got to go Memphis Bleak at this stage.

He's just proved himself. Memphis Bleak is extremely underrated, man. Okay, but you know music, so I can have the total. A lot of people don't know that, though, that Bleak is underrated. They don't think that But a lot of people Don't know that though That Bleak is underrated They don't think that A lot of people do not think that He had the best verse On 1-800-HUSTLER

Against people in their prime Like Like I think he Anytime he's featured On a record Bleak keeps up with people That are considered legends Check this out man

Some niggas wasn't outside I was outside When Miff Bleak is Was out And I don't know What was going on in New York But in Jersey City When that Miff Bleak is Was out And I don't know What was going on In New York But in Jersey City When that Miff Bleek is

Was out Yeah That What's the Dumb boys I mean not the boys What's the shit Down here

Down here Down here Down here Yeah right Round here Yeah come on man Me I'm not Miff Bleek

He got joint I ain't even get to the joints yet Why that comparison though? Like usually when you say that That's a good comparison You think so? I like that comparison Cause I was just thinking bleak and meek

Like they just rhyme I just don't think their styles are alike to compare them No I don't think their styles are alike at all But I think that a lot of people would not I think so Do you? How so? like at all but i think that a lot of people would not i think so you do you how so as far as the louder energetic their tone is similar aggressive but i don't like rhymer that can rap bleak bleak

bleak became more cooler later on that's what i yeah i was gonna say early bleak was definitely him and me definitely yeah they definitely early Bleak is a street nigga. Yeah. So I don't. They're similar to me. Mm-hmm. I just feel like Bleak has the cooler Brooklyn aggression and Meek has the Philly I'm coming at you aggression. Mm-hmm.

That's where I just feel they differ completely. What was cool about Meek's aggression on Reasonable Doubt? Meek was not on Reasonable Doubt. I mean Bleak. Bleak. Bleak. Bleak. Bleak. What'd you talk? It was cool. Oh, bleak, bleak, bleak. It was cool. Oh, please. There wasn't nothing cool about that. A G, I ride with you for free. It was cool. It was cool. That was a young, rowdy, aggressive goon. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm

saying it was a cooler, more Brooklyn style aggression where affiliates just come at you, come at you, come at you, come at you. I just didn't feel Memphis did that differently. Memphis Bleak is the only rapper that I ever followed. We followed him, what was that, Skate 22? What was that in the Bronx?

The Skate Ring. Skate Key. Skate Key. Yeah, we followed him from Skate Key to what studio? That must have been Baseline at this point, but I didn't know what it was. Back then was definitely probably Skate Key. Skate Key. Yeah, we followed him from Skate Key to whatever studio. That must have been Baseline at this point. But I didn't know what it was. Back then was definitely probably Baseline. Yeah.

It was one of those. It was either Baseline or Hit Factory. But we followed them niggas and just parked. We didn't say nothing. You wanted to battle? We trying to get a verse or rob them? You know what's funny? I didn't know what I was trying to do.

I knew I saw Miff Bleak. I knew he fucked with Hov. He was famous. He just finished performing. And he pulled off, and we were able to pull off, too. And I knew I could rap real good. That's all I knew. And then once we got to the block, I was like, nah.

I'm not walking up to a turtle top with 15 niggas. So I'm like, yo, check this verse. Yo, I was just seeing you at the skate keg. No. I'm like,

yo, check this hearse. Yo, I just seen you at the skate keg. Yeah, no, no,

I wasn't doing that. I got a few wild stories when I was trying to get on now that I think about it, but we'll save those for another time. And save those for Friday. More for Friday?

Yeah. Oh, for the live podcast? Mm-hmm. Why not? We hear hip-hop and R&B as a past. Rock is the dominant genre in U.S. music

for the first time. I'm surprised they took this one. They're so late. They're so late to the party. Thank you. We knew that in the 80s. Words.

Thank you for stating the obvious here with this. Let's see here. Oh, speaking of battles, McGregor versus Mayweather. Are y'all paying for that fight? They not getting my drones. I ain't giving them niggas a dime.

I never minded paying for Mayweather fights, but $100 for this. This is a clown show. I might click that link. I'll watch it. I just don't know If I'm paying for it I went to the Barclays

To their little Press conference shit It was fucking WWF WWE shit man You went to that You went to that shit I got free tickets

I had a meeting With the Barclays on Tuesday They asked me to come So I went Had a meeting with the Barclays You hear the Jules He be trying Drop on you

He be trying to front on you Joe a little bit He be trying to front on me, Joe, a little bit. He be trying to front on me like I'm not trying to harbor my relationships. This guy's crazy, man. This guy's crazy. I had a meeting at the Barclays. I did. That's a dope meeting.

It was. Did anything come of it? Was it productive? The Barclays playlist, huh? Yo, Barclays playlist is funny as fuck. Hanny Palooza at Barclays? Hey, that shit. They're going to turn Brooklyn out.

But no, it was such a, I mean, of course, all the boxing press conferences are show, but this one was fucking, I didn't even believe either of them. So you're definitely rooting for McGregor? I'm not rooting for anyone. I think this is stupid. Brody, you're definitely rooting for McGregor. I think this is stupid.. I think this is stupid. Brody, you're definitely rooting for McGregor. I think this is stupid. You look like him.

You're proudly related to him. That could be true. I can't give niggas my hard-earned money. I can't. I'm sorry. I don't even think it'll be a fight. It's not going to be a fight. It's going to be an event.

It's going to be entertaining. It's going to be defensive specialist Floyd Mayweather. September 15th, Triple G. No, that's the fight. That's the fight. That's the fight. That's the one I'm focusing on. Who you got?

Who you got? Who you got? Who you got? I'm not focused on Broner next week. Triple G. Triple G going to beat the carbohydrates out that nigga. Bet money. We better.

Another buck? How many rounds are going is this nigga crazy are you crazy are you drinking the juice are you drinking the juice oh you definitely triple g is gonna beat the shit out of canelo man i don't know what fights you've been watching okay all right for real you believe that i just bet you yeah real, you believe that? I just bet you. Yeah. Yes. I really believe that. I honestly believe that. All right. And Canelo can fight, but Triple G is a different.

And Canelo can fight. He can. He's a real good fighter, but Triple G is a different animal, man. He's different. I don't know if I'm buying into it yet. Okay. September 15th, if you will. I will.

That nigga start getting the memories punched out his head. You're going to be like, yeah, man, I don't know what I was thinking, man. Take this 100, man. I don't know if I believe these French projections. What is the projection? 50 grand. They have French doing 50K his first week? That's it?

With that record? I feel like the streams off the single already put him at fucking 75. Oh, my God. That's terrible. 15K physical. Oh, my God. 55 with streaming. And they spent how much making that record?

That's why I don't get streaming. How is it with some artists when their single is huge? They're like, oh, well, we added that into their album. They're already at 50K before they even dropped the album. And then with other artists, that shit don't work. Because that French record has to be streamed as much as any single at the moment. Yeah, that record is big. I don't know how those projections are real.

I can't believe that. Nah. It has to be way more than that. Has to be. Shit, 21 Savage just at 75, I think. Yeah, that's wrong. That's not. That's wrong.

He has to be doing way more than that. Way more than that. That record is huge. All right, so what do you think he should be doing? I put him right. I put him at 75. I got him doing that. Yeah, at least 80.

80 to 100. That ain't way more than 55 80 and 75 and 80 it is it is that's a jump there's a dip you know there's a little jump there yes between that 70 but i'm saying when y'all were describing the un what y'all thought unforgettable would have done i thought it would i would say i would say even 100K would probably be like, I expected more, but I could see that. Realistically, I could see 100. I would expect French to have worked his way more into the Meek ballpark. You know what I mean? Meek did what, 120, his last album? Something around there.

Something around there. This should definitely do that. That record is big, man. That's a huge record So if these numbers are in fact true There's a disconnect Have y'all heard the French album though? Yes

Have you heard it? Yes I haven't heard it yet It's good I believe it The single is great It's pretty polished Very clean sounding

Do you think it's all new music from what the last joint was? Yeah. So you think he went back in? I think he lost his audience, though. He confused them with this album. Yeah, this sounds like it's not for his audience. Well, as soon as I heard it, I said, well, Ice ain't going to like this because Ice is a huge French fan.

Yeah, a lot of French fans I know that heard it, they hate the album because it's not for... I know what French is trying to do. I think French is... I see what he's trying to do. He was doing what he had to do. Yeah, he definitely trying to cross those... He was trying to go for it.

Yeah, cross those borders, but... You think French's cult following is just specifically in New York? Well, tri-state area? Cult? Core. I would say it's core. I'm not going to say it's cult following. Because I think like...

Here in Connecticut? Yeah. And when you brought up Meek, I feel like Meek has a core or cult audience not just in Philly. And I think that's where that separates the two of them. And I think that's where... Yeah, but it shouldn't.

Because we're not saying that French should only have that core here. No, not at all. But I'm just saying that's where I think it is. Maybe, yeah. But still, why do we think that is? Like, French is out here.

I feel like that nigga been in Africa for the last two months. Seriously. Yeah, and it's not like French stayed in New York. Fucking like dated a Kardashian

and fuck it was out. But I don't know why it stuck that way. I think French is more popular than his numbers thus far would indicate. And I it was out. But I don't know why it stuck that way. I think French is more popular than his numbers thus far would indicate. And I'm not going to speak to these projections

because I don't know them to be true yet. And I don't even know when projections come out because I don't really follow them and shit. But we'll see. Yeah, but I think

that's wrong though. I'm not believing it. When I read that, I thought it was wrong too. Yeah, I'm not believing it. Yeah, 55 is crazy. But if he did do 55. He still on Epic?

Yes. That's crazy. Yeah, he did. Don't care about that. Don't care about that. Yeah, I'll talk about that. Rock Kim, she was just thoughts there. I'm cool, man.

You covered everything you had Listen I am so cool I had the longest day In the universe Number one Number two Yesterday was my first day In like a million

I think yesterday Might be my first day Since I was 14 13 Not smoking one cigarette I didn't smoke one cigarette Yesterday 91

Congrats Congrats man Thank you I'm trying I'm trying I smoked about two today 14-13, not smoking one cigarette. I didn't smoke one cigarette yesterday. Now they won. Congrats. Congrats, man. Thank you. I'm trying. I'm trying. I smoked about two today. That's it. I'm not even carrying the packs around with me.

That's dope, man. That's what you got to do. That's what I noticed. I noticed that when I have them, I smoke them. It's convenience. When I don't have them, eh, not so big of a deal. Yeah, you're definitely not hopping out to a store to go buy something. Yeah, no, you're not.

When you want a cigarette, because I think that's the thing about quitting, not letting it have, like, such control of you. So as long as you can be all right and not have to rush to a store and just get by your little moments, like after sex, after the food. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm doing all right. But with that. I'm happy for you, man, for real. Well, what you could do. Thank you, yeah, I'm doing all right. But with that.

I'm happy for you, man. For real. Well, what you could do. Thank you, mom. Trying to preserve life, man. What you could do if you do feel those urges, you go to Talkspace and talk to somebody about it. All right, Talkspace.

I told you I was going to hold y'all down this week. Hey, you know what's funny, though? Back to you quitting. I heard, honestly, I heard what helps with that is mint, like peppermints. No, like gum chewing. Yeah, I can see how peppermints do it.

Because the menthol and the peppermint is kind of like, you know what I mean? It helps. I can see that. Yeah. Pardon me,

I'll get some. Yeah, get this Spearmint Orbit. That shit tastes like hookah. Well, before we do any of that, guys, well,

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That was good. I felt like I owed him after last week, man. Yeah, you kind of Did you listen last week more? Yeah. But that was the greatest ad ever. I think that's dope

when you do it like People listen. It is dope that way anybody that gives us money for ads we're doing the ads we should be able

to be doing the ads our way until Rory negotiates it no they want us to act like ourselves it's like when Joe just insults

and mocks them and he's mad at me I didn't mock them I said it was a great idea in fucking talk space I think it's a great idea I'm mad I ain't fucking do that I said it was a great idea in fucking Talkspace. I think it's a great idea. I'm mad I ain't fucking do that shit.

Can we get some shares in Talkspace? Some what? Some shares? Maul would be the funniest person to call and be your therapist. Word. I could therapy all you niggas.

Maul definitely should be a text therapist. Yo, that's wild, B. That's a great fucking idea, Joe, actually. For real. Who do we call? Let's do it.

Talk Space. Backslash button. No, nigga, you the talk therapist. We got to call you. No, I'm just saying, like a platform, though. What platform should we do it on?

We should think about it. But I do think it's a good idea. I got it. We're going to talk about it. I got it. And you should keep

that hat on when you do it. I'll definitely keep this hat on. All right. What are we missing here? It's going to be my staple from now on. Just how the green beanie was your staple, it's my staple. My green beanie somebody stole. I know exactly what I'm going to get you for your birthday, so you're going to be dying laughing.

These fucking varmints. That's why Joe quit rap. That's not why Joe quit rap. You know in Like Mike when you can't play without the stinkers that hit by lightning? I never saw Like Mike. I think your hat

was the only way you could rap and now you don't have it. Don't even start like that you know in Like Mike. No nigga. I'm not referencing Like Mike.

I hate Like Mike. Damn. Chad Moss can't get a shout out. I know who can't get a shout out I know who can get a shout out Sleeper time Live show Friday man We told these niggas that

Rory hit the group chat And said we sold out So I mean shit Nah there was a couple tickets left Oh well alright We're not sold out So this Friday There's only a few left

Where's this Highline Ballroom? Highline Ballroom yeah Highline Ballroom Maul and Ballroom, yeah Highline Ballroom Maul and Rory have something Really special planned for you guys And I will be in attendance Will you be on stage or in the crowd? Yeah, no, I'll be on stage

I'll be on stage So make sure you come out We're going to have a great time There's going to be some food Drinks It's not going to be food or drinks Yeah, Highline has food and drinks They definitely do It's not going to food or drinks yeah Highline has food and drinks they definitely do

it's not gonna be like a barbecue but I think there's a menu you can order whatever man come I'll see you niggas Friday

that's the bottom line I'm not going through all this shit I got a sleeper so I'm gonna pick and I'm going to sleep there you go pop it off then

I'll get exhausted we'll wrap it up then close it There you go Pop it off then I'm fucking exhausted Well wrap it up then Close it Close it Y'all niggas are stupid We stupid I'm finding my sleeper Oh man

Maul had four weeks To find a sleeper I got a bunch of new music Yo so Damn I don't remember what's the name of my song I love on this motherfucker By the way I love the Her album That shit crazy right? I love it

I love the Her album I love the SZA album I love 444 Where's my song I'm looking for? I love this is album. I love 444. Where's my song I'm looking for? What? Three cups. I'm not gonna bug y'all with trying to find it. I played this. I'm not about to play it. Oh, you just take to you? Come on, you buddy, I hit it to you. I played this.

I'm not about to play it. Oh, you just let it rock? I'm looking for the song I want to play. Yeah, what's up? What's up? I'll lead this. Dej? Music nature. You belong to somebody else. I'll leave this. Dej? Music, Dej.

You belong to somebody else. This is Jaquese and Dej Loaf. All for the Fuck the Friends on our mixtape. That's on that bitch. I gotta tell nobody It's just me and it's just you And what we doing here is private, yeah Cut your phone off, make sure the door is locked It's midnight, gotta leave out by 4 o'clock Sneaking and freaking, it's Friday the weekend I'm just getting started, I don't wanna leave you I tell you I love you, you know that I mean it, you beatin' it up

And I'm poppin', I'm weepin', we fuckin' all night to the mornin' and the evenin' Gotta lay pipe until we get in I'm in and out, lovin' you most Hands on your waist, I do the most Givin' you time, girl, I done did that You say my name when I'm hittin' it I never let the past come back Did you know you got that comeback? I know you really, really want it But you belong to somebody else We both wanna be together But we can't act on it But you belong to somebody else To somebody else But you belong to somebody else Yeah, I know

How bad do we both want it? Like I loudly tease the moment Hello? Where you at? I am out of the country. Man, quit lying, man. Where you at? Pull up on me.

Nah, I'm just kidding. I'm in Atlanta. All right, I don't want to hear Dej Loaf talk sexy. Dej Loaf has a unique voice. Like, her This better be the Wild Thoughts Fab and A Boogie That's hard Fab and A Boogie can't get no love? No That's hard. Fab and A Boogie can't get no love? No.

That's crazy. I'm not playing Wild Thoughts. You a hater. Yo, Roy's a huge A Boogie fan. Like, huge, huge, huge. Yeah. Like, huge. A Boogie is nice.

Okay, Joe, we got it. Niggas too old to be huge fans of fucking 16-year-old niggas. He is 17. That was crazy. All right. I'm going to play a moody song, but the keys are dope. I can't even pronounce this chick's name. Sev Deleza, I want to say.

That means I got to take my sneakers off. Yeah. Nah, that's moody It's not really barefoot It's kind of depressing actually Whenever you can't pronounce the artist's name It's barefoot She loves to be declined There's a woman

She's every fantasy And no reality And one There's some gravity Pulling her essence down There's a remedy For the motherfuckers around There's a woman She's every fantasy And no reality in one

It brings me back to life How can I suffer without the pain? Can I struggle without the shame? It brings me back to life How can I suffer without the pain? Can you struggle without the shame? I wish I could cry I wish I could die

I wish I could cry I wish I could die I wish I could cry for him I wish I could cry forever I wish I could cry for him I wish I could grow I wish I could turn I wish I could That was Seb DeLisa. I want to say it's pronounced insensible.

That whole project is really dope. So you should check that out She sounded pretty groovy She sounded like some Shit to get hypnotized to Pretty much That's what's being played At Kel's crib right now

Hypnotize the music I am fine mom No I don't want to go out She a little kid At the birthday party Mom I don't want to go yet I'm having fun

Don't send for me Me and Robert Are just fine Don't send for me. Me and Robert are just fine. Don't send for me. Me and Robbie are doing just fine. Please stop sending. Don't send for me. It's funny.

Please stop sending the police. Robert's getting angry. Oh, man. Robert's getting angry. Oh, man. Robert's getting angry. All right. All right, I'm going to play La'Ron Smith off his new mixtape, No Distraction. It's called That Energy.

That's a long, silent intro. I'm not sure why it's not playing. Hold on. Oh, so we could have just kept joking about Robert. Here we go. Take the keys out of the ignition, mom. Don't come over here

Yeah Yeah Yeah, ay This that energy before Hove got rich Yeah, the same energy before Poe kept rich This, this that Brooklyn shit Man, don't it sound so gully Got your bitches buying 50 with that dirty money

Yeah, this is T Ty and that gold tooth When he was 17 and when he bought his first coupe Me and Koovy riding in that foreign I'm looking at my phone, that nigga Murda calling He said, don't let him do it, let him do it Man, they gon' try to break you up, dawg, don't let him do it Yeah, Murda, would you check out my stance? No threes on my hat, man, these rappers don't stand a chance

Yeah, I'm hearin' these rappers' little verses, I don't hear no hunger You can dress like me, dawg, but that don't make you younger I got a minor breath, I thought you was a runner But your mouth the only thing y'all runnin' Yeah, that is all my niggas, roll out We don't give a fuck until we go out Oh, this that energy Oh, this that, this that, this that energy

This is all my niggas roll mode One attention, we gon' give you promo Oh, this that energy Oh, this that, this that, this that energy This for my fun, I take it pop for child support For my real ass niggas that spend they life in court They married to the streets and it ain't no divorce Rains cost too much for them to take it off

Yeah, ain't no such thing as taking half If you niggas short a penny, well then, that's your ass That's why I'm from Flushing Aveave They take you out just like you're Kennedy That's Leron Smith, that energy off the No Distractions mixtape He's from Queens From Brooklyn That beat was hard That record itself was hard

What's happening this weekend? Something? Anything? We're doing a pop-up Henny Palooza to say goodbye to Webster Hall on Saturday. They closing Webster Hall? Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. You've been in L.A. too long. Webster Hall is over with.

Damn. I didn't know that. You said finally? Don't say that. Webster Hall is a staple in New York. It definitely is. For sure. A lot of staples in New York.

Niggas got a lot of staples. Niggas got a lot of staples in New York. Fucking around with Webster Hall, for sure. A lot of staples in New York. Niggas got a lot of staples. Niggas got a lot of staples in New York. Fucking around with Webster Hall, for real. Well, shit, I mean, you know, clubs close a year in New York. So that shit is crazy to see how long they own that property. But, yeah, we're doing a pop-up there. There's still tickets. They're $20.

It's a quick pop-up. Come fuck with us on Saturday after the live show on Friday. Oh, funny story. I hate, I don't like name dropping, but we had a cool little conversation with Kanye in LA. He said he got a few words in response to what Jay had on 444 the next record that's coming up so yeah did he mention when this might come out on his album on the album okay it'll be on down for sure whose phone is morning and come on relax it's the bag calling he got a bag That's Kanye calling Well that should be interesting

Did he seem upset Or was it just like Laughing I got some Shit coming back Or some malice Like fuck him I got some shit coming back It's some malice

He wasn't smiling Kanye don't smile No no no He was smiling Before that conversation started he was saying you know

like he heard him he said some funny shit he said yeah man I was next to Jay for years standing right next to him why he didn't give me

them jewels he put on that album I thought that was funny he was like damn man he could have schooled me to all of this shit you know when I was right next to you

so I just kind of you know I i was right next to you so i just kind of you know i was just looking at him like i feel you man that's what it is yeah i mean i could see why he would feel away but it's like how can you feel away he put you in this position like you know can't really feel away you can't but i understand if he you, it's like I get it, but come on, man. You Kanye. Something real big is going to happen this weekend, Paul. As far as what? I'm just forgetting something that's supposed to be happening that I waited a long time to talk about, I bet you.

Really? Or I'm just having one of my psychic premonitions again. A lot of shit that we've been talking about on this show has definitely come to fruition. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's scary. I'm going to hit the lotto. I'm out.