The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 135 | "Vogue"

Episode Date: November 1, 2017

These are Savon's words ... Joe, Rory and Mal had a ton to discuss this week. Starting with Chris Brown’s album and the overload of music being put out by artist (16:04). Should Nicki Minaj be consi...dered a superstar (40:50)? They also talk about the Migos fighting their security guard (1:07:40), Mal addresses NFL players after Texans owner refers to them as “inmates” (1:34:57), and one of the guys gets taken to “homie court”. Other topics include: ⁃ Album reviews - Big K.R.I.T, Ty Dolla $ign, 112, Yo Gotti, and Majid Jordan (32:08) ⁃ Kevin Spacey controversy (1:11:35) ⁃ Joe addresses Nicki Minaj’s tweets (2:09:55) Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Rory: Majid Jordan "Gave Your Love Away" Mal: JAG "The Outro" (Dalton Ave mixtape) Joe: Chris Brown "Tough Love"

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Joe Button. Man, everybody put their fucking headphones on. Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two, mic check. No, no, no Joe Button. Salutations, everybody. How are you feeling? Welcome to the Joe Button Podcast, episode 135.
Starting point is 00:00:16 I'm your host, Joe Button. Is it 135? You're on points, man. We'll go with that. I'm rocking out here. I am your host, Joe Button. To my left is Rory. To his left is Savon. To his right is Chris. To his right, host, Joe Budden. To my left is Rory. To his left is Savon.
Starting point is 00:00:25 To his right is Chris. To his right, no, to his left. To his left. I thought I was bodying shit. To Chris's left is Parks. To Parks' left is Mall. And here the fuck we are. Gentlemen, how is everyone doing?
Starting point is 00:00:39 Wonderful. Not ASAP frocky today. I see you are dressed down. It's good to see you. I see y'all were frock shopping this weekend. We were. Dwayne the frock button was out here. Wait. We were not frock shopping.
Starting point is 00:00:52 We were all frock shopping. You had some frog grandma shit on too. That's not a word by the way. Yes it is. No it's not the word. We're not using it correctly. Yes we are. Rory was definitely frock shopping. That's the case. Yes, it is. No, it's not the word. We're not using it correctly. Yes, we are. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Rory was definitely frock shopping, man. That's the case. Everybody was. I've been had the frocks. You late to the frock game. Maul caught the dope Sherilyn frock
Starting point is 00:01:13 that he don't want to talk about, right? That wasn't a frock. It's a Sherilyn frock. No, everything is a frock, nigga. That was a frock. Fucking beige and royal blue. Anything down to your ankles
Starting point is 00:01:23 is considered a frock. Hey. All my shit is a frock, dude. All my shoes are frocked in. Exactly. Why do I love to be... Yo, by the way... I feel secure that way. No.
Starting point is 00:01:31 It's just your personality. Wait, wait, wait. You know Joe went back to the spot on Saturday to meet the fucking creator of the frock? Oh my God. He went to a frock meet and greet. Guys. He's at the frock. Oh my God. He went to a frock meet and greet. Guys. He was at the frock convention. Can I just tell you guys?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Oh, Greg Lawrence. He was at frock con. Greg Lawrence. The frock con. I hear you, my nigga. Heard you. I ain't gonna lie though. You can't buy no more frocks though.
Starting point is 00:02:00 You might have 17 frocks, my nigga. Frock con. Yeah, you might have 17 frocks. The denim wool frock. Yeah, you might have 17 frocks. The denim wool frock? Yeah, wait. Frock con is funny. That's where you was at, frock con, my nigga. I did go to frock con.
Starting point is 00:02:12 You didn't go to complex con, but you go to frock con. But you went to frock con. He did have a display of frocks, that Greg Warren. I'm sure he did. And I told Sin about it, and we woke up early and went to see. Even waited to be introduced to him. You waited in line? Oh, he was great.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Did you have him sign your frock? He was amazing. Frock enthusiast. I don't know what about that Ralph guy, but Greg Lauren, and he has not paid me for this promo. God damn, he's great. Oh, I spent my whole fucking month's paycheck on him Monday.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I've been there ever since. Since, what was that, Saturday? Every single day I've been in there. I'm positive Barney's thinks I'm scamming them. Well, I was saying to you, you're mad late. You was at Barney's looking at all this shit. I was like, dog, three years ago during the scamming era, I could hook you up with all this shit for free.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It's too late, man. Rory is still a scammer, by the way. I just want to throw that out there. But you got to switch the hustle up. He's rolling with this unemployed thing, but scamming is still in his heart. Yeah, that's my number one love. No?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Don't run away from your first love. Rory, now last week, we've had guests for the past few weeks, so I haven't really been able to indulge into you two gentlemen the way that I like pause. Thank you. Now, I would like to be,
Starting point is 00:03:27 because we don't even talk unless it's Tuesday now. I don't know what our relationship is. I like that though. Maul likes it like, I do. No, no, I know you do.
Starting point is 00:03:34 You really enjoy this whole fucking, I feel like, I don't know. Why do you like that? Because I feel like it's just more, it's more of a natural conversation. It's a lot more to talk about.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah. Because if I see you on the weekend, I'll get off jokes or shit that I would... Yeah, that's why I don't come to Sunday Funday at your house. I don't want to see y'all niggas on Sundays. Oh, I always thought it, because I didn't invite you to Sunday Funday. You didn't invite me to your crib, nigga.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Fuck, I know where you're at. I don't walk in, nigga. What the fuck you talking about? And Adele is definitely unlocked, too. I shoot one of you stranger niggas, you walk in my house. But Rory, I would love to know how your unemployment is going because you came on here you announced you were unemployed i no no no no
Starting point is 00:04:11 you announced all right i announced you were unemployed i didn't announce i really love you and care about you and i know sam does too so i want to know what's happening in that world and i'm sure pretty plenty of people out there are facing all the problems that come with unemployment. That's a very real thing out here. So we joke around a lot up here. But I would like to be kept up
Starting point is 00:04:36 to date with your job hunt. Is this for his rollout? This could be. I'm happy to announce. You're so trash. Chris did 40 records. I'm happy to announce you're so trash Chris did 40 records I'm doing 45 I would love to hear Rory's bars I'll probably be alright
Starting point is 00:04:52 we'll save that for another day are you progressing out here I'm just recently told that the unemployment offices require that you fill out at least 17 applications a week I've never been offices require that you fill out at least 17 applications a week.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Now, I've never been unemployed because I've never had a job, but that sounds scary. So I signed up, not embarrassed at all for unemployment because that's my money. I paid my taxes when I did have a job. I want my fucking money back. That's what the taxes is for. Give us our shit back, government. So, I
Starting point is 00:05:24 did that, and when you sign up for New York City Department of Labor and all that shit, they email me. I get about 55 emails a day for Starbucks gigs, McDonald's gigs, construction gigs, and yeah, you have to pretend like you're filling these applications out if you want that $500 a week.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Okay. And I know none of us work for fucking unemployment. Why do they think that that thinking is so great? And you know what's even weirder? So you're forcing me to fill out applications, even in places I may not necessarily want to work, just so you can continue to give me the money I already earned for you to give back? To give you more information,
Starting point is 00:06:00 you have to send in your severance package when you get laid off. So they looked through that in detail to tell me exactly how much money i can get and when i can get it so they looked at my severance package see what i did tell me what tell me i mean tell the listeners what severance means uh when it's a big word uh beyonce sister right no more uh it's not that's the launch. When you get laid off, you get a certain amount of money afterwards as far as holidays, money they've owed you if you've been in the company for over a certain amount of years. Then it's a week extra pay. It's just more money when you leave so you don't shoot up the fucking office more or less. All right, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Now we really need a union as MCs. Wait a minute. Now that really need a union as MCs. Wait a minute. Now that I know what severance means. Wait, you mean to tell me we should get paid after they drop us? Yeah. They owe you some bread, man. We so fucking rappers are so stupid. I don't know what it's like if you get fired.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I'm not sure if you get one if you get fired. But if you get laid off, you get one because it's like, hey, we still want to keep you. We just can't. Okay. Do you report your Hennypalooza earnings to unemployment? All right, Joe. What the fuck? God damn.
Starting point is 00:07:13 No? All right. Jesus Christ. My bad. All right. So, Cardi B. Holy shit. holy shit uh but i will say now that i'm in my my neighborhood more like during the day i forgot how much i hate high school kids they're like literally the worst people walking
Starting point is 00:07:33 the face of the earth is is high school kids look what he connected unemployment to how much he hates children it's valid though it'd be like 2 30 and it's just a bunch of animals just running around the neighborhood no no it's terrifying no no no high school kids are terrifying no you are the animal for being outside at around 2 30 3 o'clock i look at that fucking time on the cable box because what do i have a rolex for when the cable box is there. I look at the time on the cable box and I'm like, oh no, Seri. You little fuckies with the crossing guard that's mad hyped to be a crossing guard. The parents
Starting point is 00:08:12 in traffic suck my dick, kids. No way. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm staying home. Sorry. Not sitting in that bullshit. Sorry, Trey. Yo, I dropped my kid dropped my yo when me and my first baby mom was getting along great
Starting point is 00:08:30 said oh yeah go now go ahead and pick your son up right from the school at 3 o'clock and I was trying to like fucking make up for lost time and shit and never again I drove all the way to pick that yo why are all these cars out here mad people picking I was a dead man?
Starting point is 00:08:45 Mad people picking their children up from school. Sorry. Nope. That's what people do, Joe. They pick their kids up. How would you know what people do? I see it. When was the last time you've been around a school?
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's a school right up the block. From here? Yeah. Who knows that? I know. Why do you know every hood? You're not from here. know nothing about a story why are you walking around schools in astoria i'm not walking around the school story not the school
Starting point is 00:09:13 wait all right listen too much too much of us we have to get into things that that matter do we not really well what matters but no music matters what does matter nothing matters is Wendy Williams okay alright wait time out cause I love Wendy Williams no seriously I wasn't
Starting point is 00:09:31 yeah she's fine she came back she came back on the air to say that her costume for Halloween was too hot
Starting point is 00:09:41 so wait was this like when Genuine was high as shit with TGT? And he's like, nah, I was just tired. Wendy Williams caught the Mahmoud Abdul Raouf shake,
Starting point is 00:09:56 fell out as the Statue of Liberty, and then cut back to say, boy, the costume was too hot, y'all. I had to go. Really. I had to go. Really? You had to go. You went.
Starting point is 00:10:08 She went. It was over. Come on, Wendy, man. I love Wendy as New Jersey royalty, but people got to start telling us their ailments. I think Wendy has been on record with all her ailments. Yeah, I think she was probably just the lights. She was dehydrated or something. She drank too much last night.
Starting point is 00:10:26 If y'all shut the fuck up. Wait, are y'all really wrong? Only white people can get overheated and get exhausted. White people get to go to rehab for shit that we can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Wendy Williams is not on set talking about I'm overheating. You're not fucking... No, I think she was dehydrated. You're not a carburetor? Yeah, I think she was dehydrated. And then being on carburetor? Yeah, I think she was dehydrated. And then being on stage and letting them lights
Starting point is 00:10:48 and in the costume, the wig, everything. That is a great observation. I think only white people get away with that. I swear to God. White people get away with meltdowns too.
Starting point is 00:10:54 We can do the craziest shit in the world. If we melt down, it's like, oh man, he must have been going through a lot. Rory.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Let's bring him back. You mean like when y'all shoot up schools? Yeah, we were being bullied. Everybody relax because this is the exact podcast that I intend for all of us as a family to get white people out of here. Y'all are really bugging now. No.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Well, why now? No. I think they've been. Oh, wait. Now? Kevin Spacey. Hold on. Now?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Kevin Spacey was the one. Y'all are really bugging again. Some more. Since Monday? Jesus, man. No, I didn't want to start with Kevin Spacey, so let's not start with Kevin Spacey. Let's get into music,
Starting point is 00:11:36 because if we just start talking about other shit, we're not going to get to the music, and then I'll be mad. So, mad new music. Let's start with Briss. Can I tell everybody that's listening, I judge all of you as losers when I see you type Briss. I do.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Really. Yeah. I'm lost. What is that? Well, I don't know, but I assume that gang culture became popular at some point, so people started replacing C's with B's and B's with C's.
Starting point is 00:12:09 People that really don't acknowledge gang culture or engulf or indulge in gang culture and because I'm old enough to remember the 90s and I've never affiliated with a gang in my life but I do respect gang culture,
Starting point is 00:12:26 so I spell words correctly. I think all of you niggas that's not in gangs that type the word bris are losers. Now that that is out of the way. Well, being a blood became trendy in this era of hip hop. It's not what it was. How did the trendy people decide
Starting point is 00:12:41 which gang was the trendy one? Really? Maybe they just like the color red better. That is a trash reason. Maybe Soulja Boy was leading the charge. I don't know. As usual. What?
Starting point is 00:12:55 He started a lot of trends, man. If this were two years ago, I would tell Rory that he's not allowed to make gang jokes because I affiliated all of the gang shit with what is it? What's the college shit you do? Kappa stuff? Oh, yeah. Fraternity. Yeah. Many years ago, I couldn't understand the difference in the two. I think it was Rory who
Starting point is 00:13:15 actually told me the difference. I don't know if I still believe it. Those are just gangs. Yeah. It's college. It's fucking funded gangs. I don't disagree. They're smart gangs. It has gang-esque shit. I mean, a lot of programs and panels with that is gangs versus Greeks. It's the dancing gangs.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It's the dancing. No, no, gang members dance now. Oh, yeah. Well, gangs, they only dance. Dancing gangs. We just dance in unison. Dancing gangs is crazy. It's the dancing school gangs.
Starting point is 00:13:43 It's the dancing gangs. Wait, what are we talking about? Dancing. Dancing gangs. crazy. It's the dancing school gangs. It's the dancing gangs. Wait, what are we talking about? Dancing. Dancing gangs. No, nigga. I don't care. I don't care about dancing gangs. Fraternities being dancing gangs is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:13:55 The Kappas are going to fuck me up. I'm sorry. They're just going to show up and dance in front of your house. Yo, I love seeing Rory when he's out and he bumps into a fellow Kappa. Oh, my God. he is such a loser. They have a dance floor? They start doing all of the capper shit. I'm like, yo, really, my nigga?
Starting point is 00:14:11 You ain't been a capper in 30 years. Really? Now you just bonding with this stranger, nigga? Excuse me, 2010. Yeah, fraternities is funny, man. They see each other from a different chapter. And they just start stomping the yard. Man, we trying to get to these bitches. If y'all niggas don't stop stomping
Starting point is 00:14:28 all around the damn club that's the bitch's mating call in college women love that that was the mating call that that is now no i would say i would say no yeah right no no no no no no no them little stomp the yard the the fucking college school dancing gang niggas, they had a different level of chick. Yeah. Well, back when I was visiting the college. Why would you?
Starting point is 00:14:54 But no, I will say, if you are over 25, Rachel. Wait, how funny is that? I lived in the dorm that is one mile up the block from my house. I mean, if we're feeling mushy enough to get like a full circle success story here, when I was attending the college up the street as a dropout, just fucking the girl there, like homeless, like crying over my baby moms, who would that let me see my kid that wasn't born yet?
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah, I lived down the block. Oh, I love driving by there. Ah! Oh, y'all are wrong. Didn't need you. Joe was definitely a bum mixtape rapper. You lived in a girl's dorm at a college you did not attend. That's a checklist.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Wait, and didn't put out no heat. Didn't put no music out. Didn't fuck her roommates. I was a loser. I was really just there depressed. Shit, you think, well, I'm not going to say the college that was because it's close to your house. But at St. Peter's, which is in Jersey City and right next to Newark, the whole hood lived in those dorm rooms and did not attend that college. All the slides were in St. Peter's.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Oh, man. Yeah, they were. Yeah, that was awesome, man. All right, this is off on a tangent. Back to Chris. Yeah, that was awesome, man. All right, this is off on a tangent. Back to Chris.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Chris Brown, ladies and gentlemen, has put out an album with 175 songs, and he wants us all to believe that he is not doing cocaine. Now, some of you have never done cocaine. I have done cocaine. So y'all don't get that joke. But how is this even possible? Now, let me tell y'all, I pre-ordered Chris Brown's album about a month and a half ago because I think Chris Brown
Starting point is 00:16:27 is one of the most talented people that we have on this earth. Totally aside from his vices, we all have our vices, right? I pre-ordered that album a month and a half ago. This morning, I wake up at 4 a.m. and I get the little pop-up thing on my phone that lets you know you got some shit you want.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Joseph, all of the music you purchased is now available in your iTunes inbox. Go listen to it now. Is it still downloading? Tell us what you think. No, it wasn't still downloading. Did you listen to any of it yet? No, I started listening at 4.30 a.m.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It is now whatever time it is in the day. I won't reveal that and i am not finished listening to it i'm not done i'll reveal it's been a full 12 hours so i'll ask in 10 minutes has anybody in this room heard chris brown's album in its entirety yet it's not gonna happen no i am currently on track number 13 i I'm going to listen on my flight. I hope it's a red eye. All right, everybody stop. Fine, Mo.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I'll ask, where are you going? I ain't even asking. What the fuck is he talking about? Oh, yo, I'm going to listen on this flight that I got to catch to Cancun at midnight tonight. Ain't it like 40 records or something like that? Maybe more. I'm not listening to that anywhere else. It's 45.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It's two hours and 39 minutes. Nope.'s a flight i'm all set before we start here how do y'all feel about too much music on an album even with the streaming shit i don't like it because we didn't know that i'm not even gonna press play on that shit i don't even know how to digest that type but like that amount of music as one album. I can barely get through an hour, like two plus. That's crazy. When I saw Janae's shit, it was like an hour and a half. I was like, hmm. Janae had about 19, 20 tracks on her shit.
Starting point is 00:18:15 When I saw Crit's shit, it was like an hour and a half. I was like, hmm. Well, it's double disc. Well, Crit released a double disc. It's good. It's good music. But that seems to be the new trend of fighting for streams. The more you provide, the more streams maybe you can get.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Now, Chris Brown is taking that. But it's a little weird in this microwave generation that only has an attention span of five records to be able to put out that much. That's why the thinking behind it is confusing to me. If we are indeed in a microwave era which we are why do we believe that the over consumption of music will fucking take the place of attention spans like well with short attention spans why do we think longer albums will fix it was going the other way because at
Starting point is 00:19:03 one point it was like this is 14 records on this album. That's a lot. That's a lot for right now. Yeah, we were getting down to 10 and 11. And mind you, as artists... I think Drake was the only one that was getting away with it, because Drake makes a lot of different type of music. Well, my memory is bad, so I forget exactly how many records
Starting point is 00:19:19 artists are actually paid for. Parks, what is the number? It used to be 10. Well, because it was $9.99. It was a dollar song song used to be controlled it was 10 back in the days before streams yeah cds it was 10 typically i mean it was all negotiable back in the days you know love loss it was 10 right and anything else anyone made sure to tell me we're paying 10 records is what we anything else you do nigga that's on you right right so i mean it was 10 then i don't know if they the rules have changed now with them changing all of the rules now but i see that that's a fast growing trend uh it is too much to consume i guess my thing too is a lot of these artists in the sound of today is
Starting point is 00:19:58 there's not a lot of diversity between the songs i'm listening to 20 plus songs that all kind of sound the same and that got me to my problem with chris brown's album as i listened he started the song with what to me sounded like classic chris brown um and as i continued to listen i did i won't lie at some point i did feel like okay i've gotten to the caribbean section yeah that's that's where i am right okay now i'm in jamaica right now i'm currently in jamaica i have not left i see i skipped my way out of jamaica i was like well and some of them shit is hard because i don't believe that chris brown will chris brown with the west i don't think chris brown will ever make what I deem to be a bad song.
Starting point is 00:20:45 I agree. Out of the 13 records that I've listened to, I've liked 12 of them so far. See, now this is where I go left on the Chris Brown song. I even like the R. Kelly and Jhene song. Shit sounds like a charge. Everyone was killing that on Twitter. I thought it was all right. Juicy?
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yeah, shit is hard, dog. Shit sounds like a charge. He has a that on Twitter. I thought it was all right. Juicy. Yeah, shit is hard, dog. It sounds like a charge. He has a song with R. Kelly and Jhene. And by the way. Over Juicy. They redid Juicy. Who did it? Juicy Fruit.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Of course it was. I haven't checked credits, but it was Berg. I think it was A1. Same thing. Berg only has one credit from what I saw on the way here. No, A1 got all the credits. But I mean, they're best friends. It's the same shit. I thought they were like partners or whatever. Same thing. Bird only has one credit from what I saw on the way here. No, A1 got all the credits, but I mean, they're best friends.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So I'm the same as shit. I thought they were like partners or whatever. They are. It's the same thing. Bird, A1. Love a hip hop alumna. Joe's part of that group too.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That's true. I don't have anybody. If I had, listen, I will be part of that group. I get 17, 19 joints on Chris Brown new shit. I will.
Starting point is 00:21:40 This is my problem with Chris Brown shit. Now, I don't agree with the people that say Chris Brown keeps making the same song. But that is a fast-growing rumor. It is. People are subscribing to that.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I do not. But the difference in Chris Brown when he targets adult audiences and when he targets children audiences is way too vast for me. And there's a lot of children, Chris Brown, on the first half of this album. I skipped a lot of it. Even on the tracks that he made available before the album became available, most of them were the kid tracks. I don't fault him or judge him for it because we have to appeal to the kids.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But I don't want to hear that, Chris Brown. I don't think they represented this album at all. In the music business. The singles don't want to hear that, Chris Brown. I don't think they represented this album in the music business. The singles don't represent this album. He's starting to get to the age where I feel like does he still have to do it? How much longer does he have to make music for the kids? He's talented enough to make whatever kind of music he likes.
Starting point is 00:22:37 We about to have that classic conversation. I agree with you. What's a kid? Trying to convince somebody else on what they need or need not to do when you're that talented I agree with you but clearly he feels like he needs to appeal to these kids right and I can
Starting point is 00:22:52 name a bunch of other niggas who I feel are established that still subscribe to I have to make it for the kids they ain't making it for fucking 37 year old Joe but I'm definitely going to edit that Chris Brown album and get all of the kid and B songs off of it. Yeah, give me like nine songs so that I can listen to it.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Even though, in a way, listen, fucking, what's that shit? What's the name of the joint where he redid the Donnell Jones Where I Want to Be joint, A1? Hold You Up? Hold Show You Up? I hope you do. I keep saying Hold You Up. Savon,. Oh, hope you do. I keep saying hold you.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Say, Vaughn, man, you're awesome, man. Listen. Intern Paul. Hope. He's definitely writing down that time stamp. Yeah. This is the shout out part. Put a gold star on his chart.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yo, fucking. Hope you do. Man. That's crazy. That's next. I know Chris was in there with the flu oh you wasn't in anywhere because you were outside with the flu which is why don't worry about it hope you do that shit is crazy Chris Brown shit is crazy I'm gonna listen to the other
Starting point is 00:23:56 85 songs when I leave here on my big speakers my big system I do not care that Chris Brown is dissing me I don't care I'm still going to listen to Chris Brown. He dissed you? Yeah, he fucking left a comment under academics page saying, shut the fuck up. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:24:12 To you or academics? I think he told academics, if you can't get no pussy, then you trash. I mean, we knew that. That's a fair point, though. I mean, no, if you can't get pussy, new Chris Brown, then you trash. And he told me that I'm obsessed with his high cheekbones. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:24:30 He said, and to Mighty Joe Buttons, who is obsessed with my cheekbones. Why does he say you're obsessed with his cheekbones? Because every chance I talk about Chris Brown, I talk about his cheekbones. Why? We're currently talking about his cheekbones. Why?
Starting point is 00:24:44 Because he's lost 40 pounds in his cheekbones. And when your cheekbones are that high and visible, what do you think that is a sign of? Thank you, Mom. We don't need to talk about it. Me and you both know the scoop. We'll have integrity and not share it here. So we'll act like we don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:00 No, I just didn't know he dissed you. Do it, man or nigga. Do Chris Brown do coke or nah? Yes. The end. No, I just love to hear when people... The end.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Now we move forward and enjoy the 90-track album. By the way, I'm a thousand percent taking Chris Brown in that fight against Joe. He could do a front flip without no running start. He could definitely whoop your ass.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Is this Chris with coke or Chris sober? Coke, Chris. Well, then Joe's doing coke. Gotta keep in the eyes. Wait a minute. I don't know if I want to see Coke, Chris. Well, then Joe's doing coke. Gotta even the odds. Wait a minute. I don't know if I want to see that, bro. You think I'm fighting coked up Chris Brown?
Starting point is 00:25:33 Fuck you. No, no. Now I'm taking a hit. And now we both taking the hits. Nigga, that ain't going to be Invincible Man versus me. Anyway. The corny movie line. Looks like we even the odds.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah, you are so trash. We were done with Chris Brown's album, right? I got to listen. I heard it. No, I have 12 fucking. Well, say something. Let me. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:01 What I can do. We didn't really talk about Chris's album. I do want to really talk about it. Slow down. I do want to play something from fucking Chris's album as soon as I move all of these pop-ups telling me I only have 10% storage in my laptop. Thank you. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Laptops are obsolete. Duh. I only use this for my fucking verified. Move. How do I get this out of here? I said later. Then actually pick something. Yes., tonight. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Later tonight. Yo, I've been hitting later tonight for seven years, Drake. I never get to it tonight. Alright. Hope you do. Man, I cannot wait to get home and blend this with Don L. Jones. Hope
Starting point is 00:26:43 you... oh, come on, Rory. Can I get more volume on this? I'm all the way up over here, Parks. I'll turn it down. You go up. I'm all the way up. Pause.
Starting point is 00:27:00 That was a wild exchange. Shut up. I don't want to run around No, that's not the word. That's the truth. The word around town. Slow down. Now I used to be pimping, be pimping, but how can I say this? Girl, I'm trying to fuck with you. Slow down for two seconds. Yo, niggas get to say so much bullshit and hide it in good music.
Starting point is 00:27:36 When the fuck is Chris Brown telling a girl? When is anybody telling a girl, hey, I used to be a pimp, big pimpin'. But now, I'm trying to fuck with you. When does that line work? Whatever. Shit sounds better with lyrics. Shit sounds better when it rhymes. Everything sounds better
Starting point is 00:27:52 when it's lyrics. Don't take no pictures. What girl, what girl agreed to this? This bitch is a mutt. Who is going to see Chris Brown not taking pictures? Next time I argue with my girl,
Starting point is 00:28:03 I might need your help to rhyme my argument together. Because I think I'll win. I can't help you. I'm the nigga that constructs your girl of arguments. I ain't going to help you. Well, you've done a shitty job. Because I'm bodying it out here.
Starting point is 00:28:16 All right, I'm turning this off. Y'all, let's do it on your own time. Boy, that song is hard. I'm turning into my parents that listened to the rap records I was listening to and said the original is better. Why are you listening to that bullshit records I was listening to and said the original is better why are you listening to that bullshit I don't really I'm
Starting point is 00:28:26 same I kind of like when they redo shit but it's getting to become a trend and it's getting a little annoying I just be getting
Starting point is 00:28:31 offended when it's like the Fugees or something that was like a huge record like it wasn't that long ago right
Starting point is 00:28:38 but it was I know it was that's the crazy part that's why when we look at the 90s they were sampling shit from the late 70s and early 80s and so it's like it's the same we don't want to be as 90 what eight yeah it's not yeah 97 98 i was thinking donnell jones that's 20 years
Starting point is 00:28:59 that that's enough time yeah harlem world came out 20 years ago you wanted to all right what happened in harlem 20 years ago i just thought about that last week out 20 years ago Alright, well What happened in Harlem 20 years ago? I just thought about that, last week was 20 years They said today is the I've read this, but I didn't fact check it They said today is the anniversary of The Dynasty album I remember that coming out on Halloween
Starting point is 00:29:19 Because I had a fucking crazy party Is that true? Why don't we count that as a whole album? Because it's a compilation album No, it's a whole album Are. Is that true? Why don't we count that as a Hov album? Because it's a compilation album. No, that's a Hov album. It has a whole single. Are you down with that? Are you down with that? There's a lot of features.
Starting point is 00:29:31 How many just J records are there? What features? The intro. I don't care. They're all J records. Yeah. It's a J album.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's one of Milford's. And it's a top five J album to me. Well, that was the next question. If that's a Hov album, I've never ranked it in there. That's up there as a Well what do you rank it as a fucking Rockefeller Insider? Dynasty?
Starting point is 00:29:51 Yeah. In Hov's catalog. Alright top 7. I'm done talking to you. Okay. Top 7. They only got 7 albums. No he has more. How many albums old got
Starting point is 00:30:07 13 not counting the dynasty I only know that because it's set on the 440 album this is his 13th album Kingdom Come is better than Black Album
Starting point is 00:30:14 I mean not Black Album what are we talking about right now Dynasty Dynasty because I know you like that album no
Starting point is 00:30:22 Kingdom Come is not as shitty as people say it is I agree no I agree now i was very wrong there it took for you and ice to read back the track list yes not 10 years later but when that album came out i was get that bullshit the fuck out of here i was there when it came out fucking usher record and that beyonce back to back that's what did it there were some really bad songs on there but and the sequencing was bad. Yeah. But it was a great song. It was definitely rushed. Show me what you
Starting point is 00:30:46 got. I still feel like... It's a good record. No, no, no. I know. I think that was Just Blaze, Get Back. That was Just Blaze's Pump It Up I Owe You To Hold in my mind. I'll be honest. I didn't even know that was produced by Just. Just did that beat. And I think he did that beat the same way
Starting point is 00:31:02 he did Pump It Up. And I think that when he heard that beat, he had my name in mind, but he called Jay first. Jay strikes again. That is what I think. Or I think just had Jay in mind. Yeah, that's always the opposite side of the coin. I think I'm going to go with that, but, you know, for conversational purposes. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Okay. What song are you talking about? Let me clarify. Show me what you got. Show me what you got. uh show me what you had a rum shaker oh that beat is hard now now hove got kind of killed for it a little bit like they didn't respect it i thought that was an amazing single and i still play that record to this day yeah i like that record when it came out yeah and now anybody did that beat is hard. We need more beats like that. And Kingdom Come has Lost Ones on it, which is one of my favorite Jay records ever.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Lost Ones. I feel like we talked about this recently. That wasn't on Bleak's album? No. No, you're thinking of- Dear Summer. Dear Summer. Dear Summer.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And the other one. Oh, what the fuck is the name of it? No, it was on Bean's album. That one Jay record at the end. At the end of the Bean's album. The other one. Oh, God. Jay used to be good for that.
Starting point is 00:32:05 He was good. That's such a good album. Jay ain't got no damn album out. We supposed to be talking about people and music out. Big K. Just put that album out. Hey! Give him a round of applause for these niggas putting albums out.
Starting point is 00:32:13 An independent album. Got Def Jam the fuck out of here. He's not on Def Jam. Not at all. Okay. The album Forever is a Mighty Long Time is out. It's a double album. It's great. He's not a double album. It's great.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He's not on Def Jam. That's great. Def Jam is so great. That's interesting because he got producers this time. He never had producers before. Yeah. Really. So this album to me, because I've, you know, shameless plug,
Starting point is 00:32:40 been working with Chris since he first got signed to Def Jam. Let me pick up this name you just dropped. Yeah, right there. It's right by your foot. I'm going to drop another one. It was when I was working with Shy Money and Shy Money found him. Oh my God. With Johnny Shipes. Johnny Shipes was there.
Starting point is 00:32:56 L.A. Reid was the president at the time. Why would he even still want to drop that name? But anyway. So when you were getting them sandwiches... Yeah, no, I did. I was picking samples for Crit, though. That I can say. And I was still want to drop that name but anyway so when you were getting them sandwiches yeah no i did i was picking samples for crit though that i can say and i was with him on the bt cypher have we confirmed this with crit you know we can never confirm niggas when niggas can start telling you what they did with niggas i gotta be have those niggas on speed dial you should call
Starting point is 00:33:20 i'm not calling crit about this uh anyways this album I felt like Because Critt was always trying to figure out If he was going to be the new southern guy The lyrical southern guy The preacher at church guy The producer guy I felt like he finally found his sound And what he wants to be It was a good mixture of that
Starting point is 00:33:37 I feel like all the other albums he was trying to search For that specific thing in every different project This was all of those combined to me He packed this shit up. Yeah. This shit is hard. Shit, the fucking T-Hive record
Starting point is 00:33:49 is super hard. And the best mixed Crit album of all time. I love that he's off Def Jam and finally found a good mixer. I've never had a problem with his mixes before. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:57 I was about to say, was his album horribly, where his album horribly is? Crit Was Here is probably one of the worst mixed records ever. Nah, that would be a scapegoat 100 but whatever you gotta grow and learn gotta grow and learn that your record should sound good if i kill these niggas with the bars they won't even hear all the distortion boy was I young
Starting point is 00:34:25 anyway but you I don't want to give away your everyday struggle thing is there anything else you can add to this what everyday struggle thing to this to crit yeah um no no I'm cool man when it
Starting point is 00:34:42 came to crit I just always wanted to know that the behind the scenes Def Jam story and I spoke to him and I got it from him and I didn't even need to get it from him because the album was good enough
Starting point is 00:34:51 to kind of tell me what was going on well Shaw was the only one fighting for him and then once Shaw left and LA left there was no one gave a fuck
Starting point is 00:34:59 about Big Crit they didn't give a fuck about Big Crit when he was there only Shaw did so Shaw would have to fight but he was still working young Jeezy projects at the time. So it was like K.R.I.T. just got put to the back burner, no matter how talented he was. He kept a low budget because he was doing all his own beats.
Starting point is 00:35:13 That's why he stayed at Def Jam for so long. Because he was like, all right, it's not a big overhead. He seems to be doing that lower tier at this time with the J.Coles, the Kendricks, and things of that nature. It's like, all right, Def Jam has one of those. That's going to be our lead guy there. But just no one gave a fuck. So I was really happy when he got off. I like Crit a lot.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah, me too. I like him. I support him. I fuck with Crit. Another album I was real excited about, Beach House 3, Ty Dolla $ign, that came out. Loved it. What do you want me to say?
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, no, that was it there was no there was nothing more to explore i haven't heard young dolph and on offset and young thug and future and more albums came out i heard majid jordan briefly all those people put an album future and young thug put a joint project out last week that I haven't gotten to. Offset and 21 Savage. I'm sorry. I fucked the names up. Offset and 21 Savage put a joint project out yesterday that I have not heard just because I haven't gotten to it. Honestly, truth be told, I have been playing nothing but 112's album since its release.
Starting point is 00:36:24 It's good. Surprisingly good. Yep. Cool. I have been playing nothing but 112's album since it's release it's good surprisingly good yep and it's good old nigga but sounds kinda current R&B it's a great album if you have not heard it go check it out 112 is still out here
Starting point is 00:36:38 112ing what else came out more I know you got some underground fucking west side fucking connection group that came out with some hard shit. Mayhem Loren and DJ Muggs from Cypress Hill. Shit is hard. Really? Yeah, super hard.
Starting point is 00:36:52 The Wu-Tang album came out. Random fact about Cypress Hill. I don't follow many celebrities, but the ones I do follow, Cypress Hill has never missed an Instagram photo. Every single one. From every celebrity on the planet. And they have an emoji for everything that happens somehow? Who is running Cypress Hill's Instagram account? They're very busy.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, they are. They do a good job. The NBA and their fucking exploiting of this Greek freak shit. Now all of a sudden he's great out of the Cleveland sky. Anyway, what else came out? Yo Gotti put out a pretty good album that not too many people have been talking about. I'm not sure why, because Gotti's popular, I think, on the timeline.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I think he's one of those guys that people just want to hear singles from. Not to say that he's not better than that. Which is weird, because I'm the complete opposite. I like the dirty, grimy shit that Yo Gotti does. I don't like the singles. I didn't know those existed. Yeah. The way better Yo Gotti records. He has a bunch on this album. So, what's the name of that shit again?
Starting point is 00:37:44 I'll have to look. check out your goddy shit all right i don't give a fuck about music anymore um a jids album i like better than the last one it was refreshing i felt like they was getting back to their shit uh i still am as the ogadio all right i i haven't heard it i haven't heard it. I haven't heard it yet, but a lot of music came out. Garoppolo got traded to the 49ers. Where the fuck have you been? Yeah. For a second round pick. You didn't see JGI went to the Eagles? I saw that as he was about to sit on my fantasy bench
Starting point is 00:38:17 for the rest of his fucking life. I guess he made it, though. I don't know. I don't want to doubt Bill Belichick. It was a little weird move. I didn't get it, but I think he's never been wrong. He was going to leave. Well,'t want to doubt Bill Belichick. It was a little weird move. I didn't get it. But I think he's never been wrong. He's going to leave.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Well, he deserves to be a starting quarterback. I mean, I guess this just means Tom Brady thinks he's going to be healthy enough for the next three to five years. Jimmy Garoppolo is not dominating the second block of our conversation. We're going with Kevin Spacey or fucking Migos. You pick it, buddy. We're not about to do the Jimmy Garoppolo deep dive here. We're going with Migos or Kevin Spacey.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Well, yeah, because that's a real big record. And that's important because you always know Rory. I knew it was coming. No, so did he. Look at Joe. He said, look at Joe. Who was that?
Starting point is 00:39:06 Joe Let's go Kevin Spacey That is definitely Tor Joe Look at Joe right there That's Joe on tour That's Joe right now He talking about Joe on tour
Starting point is 00:39:20 It's Joe on the couch That's definitely my Baby shower outfit This weekend Listen what are y'all Are we talking about Y'all wanna talk Y'all wanna get into this Motorsports tour. It's Joe on the couch. That's definitely my baby shower outfit this weekend. Listen, what are y'all talking about? Y'all want to get into this motorsports bullshit? What?
Starting point is 00:39:32 This fucking record. Oh, yeah. I've been talking about it too long. I just kind of wanted to hear what y'all had to say about it. I don't give a fuck. That's the Kevin Spacey record? Alright, well, I'll start. Everyone keeps talking about Cardi and Nicky. Can we all agree that that song is utter garbage regardless?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah. Yeah, it's bad. It's a terrible Migos record. It's really, really bad. I'm not going to listen to it. I'm very curious who heard that and said, all right, let's use this and put two of the biggest female rappers who have had a rumor. That's exactly what it was.
Starting point is 00:40:00 But you could have, Migos is dope. You could find a good Migos record to put there. Yeah, but they just using the hype now. That was nobody but Kim and fucking her mom. Yeah. Definitely let the damn Kardashians in the studio. They start making suggestions and shit. Get your ass out of here.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I don't think the Nicki verse is that bad. I don't hold Nicki to the highest lyricist shit like the rest of y'all so when i hear nikki verses like that i think they're cool and i think that's what they're supposed to do definitely tell rory has other friends right when he says things like that you can tell he's not talking to us i had to cough because i was like y'all yeah who the fuck are you talking to our listeners they do they do that yeah people hold well nikki holds herself and people follow suit she does hold herself to that she does and here's my thing with nikki nikki does have a resume that you could argue she should or could be a superstar but what nikki doesn't do because superstar to me has a lot to do
Starting point is 00:41:00 with perception she's a super she she doesn't act like one. She doesn't act like Rihanna. She don't act like Beyonce. She don't act like Hov. It's not even a female-male thing. She just doesn't act like a superstar. And I think that's her biggest problem. All right. That is a great point that you just made.
Starting point is 00:41:16 That is a fucking phenomenal point. I didn't think of that. My new question to you is, today, do the superstars have to act like superstars today? Yeah, because there's still some mystique. Does Drake act like a superstar? Yes. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 00:41:35 A thousand percent. He does. And that's why he is a superstar. Tell me some more superstars. Rihanna acts like a superstar. Wait, how does Nicki not act like a superstar? That's what superstar. Wait, how does Nicki not act like a superstar? That's what my question is. How does Nicki not act like a superstar?
Starting point is 00:41:49 She responds to too much. I'm saying that. Not Roy, I'm saying that. Her behavior on Twitter, and I mean, you could say the president is a superstar and he behaves the same way. Hold tweets once every five years. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Superstars have mystique. How they used to act. The mystique thing is what we're saying. She takes advantage of social media. Argu arguing with everyone and trying to prove like bringing up the monster verse as the rollout for this record it's like dog we get it i still think you had the best verse on monster why are you constantly trying to remind me of that a superstar would never do that yeah a superstar would keep it pushing and put out the new shit when i went to work and they introduced that that topic i was like all right this is a conversation yeah nikki had the best verse on monster we we
Starting point is 00:42:29 all know it i mean there's nothing to argue it's not even close she was set up to so what is i mean like i disagree with rory that to well i i agree with rory but i disagree in the fact that i think today like rihanna for instance I don't think Rihanna acts like a superstar you think she is one yes Rihanna go do and say as she please she'll flip you to bird she'll smoke a blunt
Starting point is 00:42:55 her pussy a be out she'll fuck every nigga that she wants to but guess what so that's Rihanna nigga well Rihanna's the new Rihanna she's the new Madonna got a goddamn thing on Rihanna no nigga. Well, Rihanna's the new Madonna. She's the new Madonna. Right. Madonna ain't got a goddamn thing on Rihanna. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:43:08 You got younger Madonna fucked up. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's a fact. Wait a minute. You got young Madonna fucked up. No, I do not. I'm speaking about totality. I bought all the Madonna shit back in the day.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I had an older brother. So, unfortunately, I have to admit, I was a Vulcan. I don't know about Vulcan, but I know Madonna was definitely. I hate when Maul, I have to admit, I was a Volgan. I don't know about Volgan, but I know Madonna was definitely. I hate when Maul do that because you used to dance too, Maul. I never Volged. But have you ever danced?
Starting point is 00:43:33 I have never Volged. Have you ever danced? Of course I've danced. So you do know that. I'm black. I have rhythm. So exactly. So if I want to Volg.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Volg is for the gays, bro. I'm not gay and I Volged. Volging, I didn't say you a gay. I said Volging is for the gays You don't know that it's 7 mall He was a 7 year old gay You didn't see men with bras on stage
Starting point is 00:43:52 When Madonna doing the same dance you were doing in your living room I'm going to smoke What you mean you're going to smoke About voguing This thing is crazy No I said Alright Joey B and I'm back, bitches. Don't try to sound tough now.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I don't want to hear I'm acting different. Same niggas be talking about me, be reaching out, and they ass kissing. Nigga? Are you done? Yes. Okay. Bars. Now...
Starting point is 00:44:21 To wrap up, Nicky, and then we can move on to the... Back to you, Rory. I understand, Nicky, because i know the environment she comes from we all fell in love with her being the new york city chick but i just think there's certain behavior you need to graduate from to go in that superstar status you can't still be the crazy hood chick from queens you can just all the negative shit that comes with that you should probably let go to then graduate to the next level in your career. That is my question for Maul.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Maul. My only issue with Nicki's behavior is that she's from New York. As a New York MC, I mean, if we're believing some of the theories that are out there most of which I perpetuated
Starting point is 00:45:07 what's the difference in what Nikki is doing and what 50 did as far as their careers or social media as far as tearing down any bitch and I say bitch loosely I apologize to our women audience to any woman that's doing it, especially those from New York,
Starting point is 00:45:28 because all the women that are present in hip-hop happen to be from New York at the moment. Remy, Cardi, Kim. And Kim is not relevant, but she is because she's such an iconic figure to the current class of female MCs. Remy has a new record coming with Kim. TMZ is full of shit. That's not a Nicki diss.
Starting point is 00:45:52 We're doing that for headlines. That's fine. So I'm asking you because you're normally the one to balance out my Nicki, air quotes, hate. Is there any grievance to that? Nikki air quotes hate. Is there any grievance to that? That as a New York, as a New York MC,
Starting point is 00:46:11 she should move differently toward the other New York women MCs or no, is it still just fair game? No, I mean, here's the thing. It's not, it's not a lot of female rappers that, you know, are in the game that are on that level where I still don't even think Cardi's
Starting point is 00:46:22 on that level, but you know, for whatever reason, people know I'm pitting them two together. Cool. I still think Nicki is in a class by herself. I still think that Cardi has a long way to go to accomplish half of what Nicki has accomplished. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:46:35 But Cardi's hot. Totally agree with you. She's hot right now. I don't think Cardi is a superstar yet. I mean, it's too early to tell. It's one record. Listen, I'm from the Bronx. I love Cardi. I love her success's too early to tell. It's one record. Listen, I'm from the Bronx. I love Cardi.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I love her success, everything she's doing. But what's going on right now with Cardi is like, come on, man. Manufacture. Yeah, they putting too much to cover Rolling Stone. I don't know if that's real or not. I'm just saying, let's just talk about it. Let's just talk about what's going on. But you do know.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I understand, but we got to talk about it because some don't. My thing is I don't fall underneath. I'm not riding that train. I'm happy for Cardi. I don't want people to get it misconstrued. I'm happy for her. But when people start, I think Nikki's, I think honestly, I think at one point Nikki was showing love.
Starting point is 00:47:19 She was paying homage to the female MCs before her, but for whatever reason, people gave her their ass to kiss. Like, yo, fuck you. I don't know where it happened and then Nicki just took a stance like, alright, well, fuck it then. I'm going to just do me. Fuck paying homage to y'all. I did tell everybody where my Nicki hate stems from. Because she unfollowed you
Starting point is 00:47:37 on Twitter? I thought that, honestly, I thought that was a reason, but go ahead. Listen. It's okay, bro. That could be from your seven year old voguing some of that could still be where does your disdain from Nicky come from never even heard
Starting point is 00:47:57 Moe use two syllable words now he want to pull out disdain I'm learning from you yeah I am I'm learning from you. I'm learning from you. Yeah, I am. I'm learning from you. I didn't like that I held on to that podcast jab she threw. I did.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Okay, so when I held on to Ebro calling me the peanut gallery. Can't hold on to that. But you can hold on to Nicki throwing a jab at the podcast? Yes. I can't hold on to Ebro saying little podcast. No. Why?
Starting point is 00:48:27 You do know Ebro knows this is not a little podcast. You know that. But he said it. I'm just going to do what he said. I understand that part. Even through his wording, we in this room know Ebro recognizes this podcast to be exactly what it is. So let's put that to the side.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I don't know that to be the case with Nikki and that doesn't matter. She don't have to. I'm gonna always go extra hard for Underdog. I hate to bring up that rocky bullshit ass story but when i'm on
Starting point is 00:49:09 twitter just tweeting and you step out of your superstar realm to then look down upon anybody who's not there i'm gonna have issue not just with her that's not a her thing that's how i feel period especially for those that have and don't acknowledge that they one time did not that's why so when i went so when she said the little podcast thing i said to myself okay mental note yeah but again man so as the guy who has built his podcast on telling the truth, and as a guy who has built his morning show on telling the truth, yes, it gives me a little extra oomph to tell the truth to the person who looked down upon. Yeah, I get it, man, but i think i think you should now is that correct
Starting point is 00:50:06 hey maybe not yeah maybe no that's what i'm trying to say so i try to be objective today because nikki's from queens niggas listen she's from new york she's a woman you should you got to respect women listen and i got to set the record i'm not a nikki fan like i don't have any nikki's music in my laptop my phone i mean i recognize her she don't make a talent for i recognize her ability but i'm just not like i'm not you'll never see me playing a nikki record i recognize that she can rap and she's dope and she's and you just think bitches need to keep her name out their mouth because she's accomplished too much not that she's not only that has she accomplished i don't think nikki bothers anybody
Starting point is 00:50:43 anytime i see nikki's name being brought up in something, it's usually a jab that another female MC has thrown at her. It's like they feel like- You think Cardi B stepped out of lust to just start throwing jabs at Nicki Minaj? I think, but I think she, here's the thing though. Nicki is the only female MC that any up-and-coming female MC has to throw shots at. See, that's the position Nicki is in. She is the only female mc that any up-and-coming female mc has to throw shots at that's see that's the position nikki is in she's the only one but i don't think cardi bothers anybody either no i'm not saying cardi does i'm just saying that if cardi was wanting to throw
Starting point is 00:51:15 shots at a female mc it would have to be nikki to that point and saying both of them don't bother anybody something had to have happened for them to just start bothering each other. Yeah, but I see I don't think Nikki, I don't think Nikki pays any attention to any of that. Yeah, me and Rory can't both just be sitting here not bothering each other and then just out of nowhere we're bothering each other. Okay, perfect example, perfect example. On the new Nikki verse, right? On Amigo's
Starting point is 00:51:38 record, right? She's saying my crown can't fit your bitches, y'all weaves and all that. People, you got the call before the record came out. People were saying that that was shots at Cardi. Why? Because Cardi wears lace fronds. What chick doesn't?
Starting point is 00:51:52 What female entertainer doesn't wear weaves? I'm just saying, what female entertainer like MC rapper or who doesn't wear weaves? Beyonce wears weaves. Everybody wears weaves. You could say it was just wordplay Some of those No that was wordplay
Starting point is 00:52:08 I don't think Nicki Be paying any of these chicks Any money Alright so explain The Boosie Uzi line I think she has to now I don't think she does Explain the Boosie Uzi line to me
Starting point is 00:52:17 What's the line I can't You bitches catching a fade Shout out to my nigga Boosie Cause Boosie got a fade. All of your niggas be dead. You definitely vogued at seven. You don't get the correlation in that line?
Starting point is 00:52:33 I'm just trying to understand. I got it now that you say it. Boosie has a fade. All of Uzi's friends are dead. He was about to vogue mid-verse right there. I'm saying. You look mad comfortable during that flow. Everyone relax.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Oh my god. Hey. No, you relax. Everyone else is relaxed. You might be the one that needs to relax, bro. Volgan. Yeah, man, but I don't think Nicki be bothered with a lot of these chicks, man.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I think Nicki's in her own world, minding her business, and chicks just gotta throw shots at her. She's still on top. I think there's definitely something to a woman rapper saying these bitches... Nicki is outselling Cardi no matter what.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Nicki could drop a blank disc today and the shit would go platinum. Listen, that's still the case but I'm saying her behavior has gone awry to what it was leading up to the stardom that she now has.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Okay, that's fair. That's a fair assessment. I still don't think that she be thinking about these other chicks like that. She has to. She should be thinking about male rappers too. She has to think about them. I'm with Maul because- To stay competitive.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I'm with Maul because a girl saying, fuck these bitches, da da da, there's only like two of them. That's what I'm saying. So you're going to assume that she's talking about Cardi or Kim. Oh, my God. No, Mo. We're not listening to Nicki Minaj versus assuming she's talking about the only two competitors. We are listening to Nicki Minaj versus and coupling that with her behavior to say, oh, okay, that's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:54:00 We're not just listening to bars. Niggas do that all the time. Yo, I kill you. We ain't going out looking for the fucking smoking gun. We are looking at behavior and our history of pattern to say in combination with these bars, in combination with the Cardi interviews, and there's a new one that dropped just yesterday. It's clearly some discomfort between her and Nicki. I can't tell you why.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I call Atlantic every other day. They won't tell me why. Nobody will tell me why. I can't tell you why. I call Atlantic every other day. They won't tell me why. Nobody will tell me why. I don't speak to Nikki. But Nikki says, and she tweeted, and I quote, hey, ever since I dropped that record, all of the people that have my phone number have texted me to say how amazing that record is. Rap critics. Yeah, all the rap critics. And I was thinking, man,
Starting point is 00:54:38 if I had Nikki's phone number, maybe I would text her too. I maybe wouldn't tell her how amazing it is. But I probably would text her the truth. To be honest, the people that have hated Nikki's decline, well they've called it the decline lately, all said that they hated
Starting point is 00:54:53 the Migos record, her verse rather. I thought her verse was good. It was a good verse for that record. I think she did her job. No, that was a great Nikki verse in terms of it was the last time outside the record up verse. Pair that with the Yo Gotti job. That was a great Nikki verse in terms of was the last time outside the Rick It Up verse. Pair that with the Yo Gotti shit. Nikki has been great for her last two releases,
Starting point is 00:55:10 and she does not release very often, so that's a good thing to say. Nikki is still the one, man. I respect the Cardi. I don't think I'm disagreeing with you. Nikki is still the top female MC. And I might go out on... Nikki might be top...
Starting point is 00:55:24 She might be top two female MCs of all time. In my opinion. Who's one? I mean, Kim. But I think Nikki is right there. Honestly. We just got to be real. I mean, look at all she's accomplished.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Look at her music. Look at her... You know what I mean? She... You can't put a bunch of other female MCs next to her and say somebody has done more and has accomplished more than she has. If you're going to start talking about accomplishments, then I tap out. You got it. And there's nothing to say.
Starting point is 00:56:00 When you say top artists, it's more than just lyrics. Of course. Of course. You got to add in everything accomplishment you gotta add in branding i disagree with that though i disagree with that though why i disagree with that because then we would put vanilla ice high it's fucking yes no no no you have to do yes yes yes it's the same thing you're saying vanilla ice wouldn't be high on the list Why not? That's like putting Robert Ory high in the NBA Because he has a lot of rights from Shaq and Kobe Why wouldn't Vanilla Ice be high on the list
Starting point is 00:56:31 If we have to look at accomplishments? Because his Lyrical ability is so poor The music was poor Whoa, I will not I will 100% Not allow Rory to say that You could say that.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You could say that. Vanilla Ice raps better than 90% of the rappers rapping today. Yeah, but a lot of these rappers. All right, stop. What does that mean? Because you're telling me he can't rap. When did those words come out? Just now. I said the music was poor.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I don't like Vanilla Ice. The music wasn't poor. No, somebody said his lyrical ability. Somebody said that. I heard that. I didn't make that up. We can rewind this. I get what you're saying, but Vanilla Ice wouldn't be high on anyone's list.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I'm only responding to you telling me that his lyrical ability was absent and the accomplishments. And by that metric, Vanilla Ice is indeed high on the list. He has out-accomplished many people far more talented than him, and he raps better than many of the people that people claim to be great today. And if you do not believe me, all right, then go read word for word. Vanilla Ice doesn't rap better than a lot of great rappers today. Then go read word for word. That's not what I said. Don't put words in my mouth.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You said great rapper today. That's not what I said. Don't move the goalpost. What did you say? You said rapper today. No, I said people that y'all deem to rap great today. And that is true. Not y'all as in the people in this room.
Starting point is 00:57:52 But the people that people say are great and vibing to today, read the first verse of Ice Ice Baby. And lyrically, it is a better verse. And I can back up what I'm saying. All right, stop, collaborate, and listen. Ice is back with a brand new edition something grabs a hold of me tightly it's like a thunderstorm daily
Starting point is 00:58:09 and nightly will it ever stop no I don't know turn off the lights yo and I glow to the extreme I rock a mic like a van dude light up the stage that's lyrics it could be whack it could be whack I vogue it could be whack all you want more but those are indeed lyrics.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's one song, Joe. That's my point. You're talking about one record. One record. Rap another Vanilla Ice verse from a different song. That's one record, Joe. And that is the record that propelled him to superstardom. I get it.
Starting point is 00:58:43 He has one record. Accomplishments is one part is what Maul was saying. You have to superstardom. I get it. He has one record. Accomplishments is one part is what Maul was saying. You have to add in everything. Y'all completely, Maul was saying the complete opposite. I mean, how many Nicky verses
Starting point is 00:58:54 can you rap though? Let me hear it. Let me hear it. I can't rap. Now go ahead and sing. I wish that I could have this moment for life. That's a song.
Starting point is 00:59:03 No, no, no. I love that song. Yeah, it's a good song. But you in the Bronx walking down the block with your little plaid spray. I wish I was my name more. What's good, my G? I don't have any Nicki songs. I wish that I could have this moment for life.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I don't have any Nicki songs in my phone. For life. In my phone at all. For life. So, I mean. I wish that I could. I'm still. I'm going to sing my song, nigga.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Nicki is the top two female MCs of all time. I don't care what you say what songs you want to want to fucking dissect.
Starting point is 00:59:30 She's the top two female MC of all time. No she's not. She better than Latifah? No. She better than MC Light? No.
Starting point is 00:59:36 She better than Lauren? She's not better than Brat. She's not better than MC Light? You're bugging. No you're bugging nigga. You're bugging.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Nikki Minaj I'm done. What are we talking about? Forget nigga. You're bugging. Nicki Minaj. I'm done. What are we talking about? Forget it, forget it. Rapping? Yes. Just rapping? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I'm talking about see, y'all missing what I'm saying. Lyte is still around. She's been out for 40 years or some shit. That means nothing. She has not accomplished anything.
Starting point is 00:59:58 She has not accomplished what Nicki has accomplished. She has not accomplished what Nicki has accomplished. And Nicki hasn't accomplished what she has. I bet she sold way more records than Nicki. no i don't think so that's a fact that is a fact wait a minute oh y'all sipping the juice mc like that's a surprise do you know
Starting point is 01:00:15 that nikki has two albums out only only only like i get it you reading the instagram catch it no no there's two fucking albums and one of them is a.5. It's two and a pop like a Spades game. I understand that, but to tell me that MC Lyte sold more records than... We can fact check it. It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:00:30 That's a check. That's a check. Marks is checking. You know the white niggas is checking. I'm looking. He can check. But listen, Maul,
Starting point is 01:00:37 I go off of skill. You know I'm not a numbers guy. Yeah. If I'm going off skill and Nikki's a woman, so I don't think it's fair i think that when we are grading women unless they have proved that they should be judged with the men then we should grade them as women and grading them as women nikki's one of the best i'm trying to catch the i only have to sound like i'm hating her when she and others like she says, let's put her with men. If we're doing that, Nikki is 350 on the list in terms of skill.
Starting point is 01:01:13 She's going to rhyme lace front with laced blunt 90 times out of 95. That's why I said female emcees of all time. Let me tell you something Da Brat don't belong with female MCs Da Brat is nice Da Brat belongs with male Lauren don't belong with female MCs Jean Grey don't belong with female MCs
Starting point is 01:01:36 Rhapsody don't belong with female MCs Latifah didn't belong to female MCs Monie Love didn't belong to female MCs Boss didn't belong to female MCs. Moni Love didn't belong to female MCs. Boss didn't belong to female MCs. Roxanne Shantae didn't belong to female MCs. Do we want to have a conversation about female MCs for real, for real? Or are we just going to pad our fucking stats with fucking features and what the feature did? So you're saying that all of these women are better female emcees than Nicki Minaj?
Starting point is 01:02:05 Emcees, yes. Okay. Not artists. So. Not artists. Okay. I got it. I understand.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Emcees. I understand. Not artists. Because I still agree with you. Not many have out-accomplished Nicki. Mm-hmm. But I don't so much credit that to her. I do credit that to her.
Starting point is 01:02:23 But I credit that to her i do credit that to her but i credit that to today the population of of of people the influx in business all around the board projections should increase a if you're listening projections should be increased at your job i don't know where you work but i know that projections are up at your job know why there are more of us in the world technology if you just are aware of what's happening you know at your job projections are why? There are more of us in the world. Technology, if you just are aware of what's happening, you know, at your job, projections are up unless you're at McDonald's. That's not true because McDonald's projections are up. Yeah, but I understand what you're saying, but you can't knock the artists for the time that they were born. No, no, you're right.
Starting point is 01:02:56 You're right. You're right. You're right. Of course not. Now, I'm off on a tangent. Let me reply to your original question of why don't I pay accomplishments anymore? Because it's all made up well that's why i accomplishments can be tangible well that's i'm only telling you why the system that's in place today and this is applicable to any conversation that y'all want to have is one
Starting point is 01:03:21 that was made up by whoever it was made up for whatever reason it was made up i because i'm an obsessive over uh analyzing virgo i pay attention to shit like that so somebody in music applied the metric and the accolade system to say if you sell a million records your art is better than the person that did not. I never subscribe to that theory. Results don't determine the art to me. There are a million different ways that the ball can be dropped on art. No, I'm only answering Wal's question on why I don't pay attention to accolades the way some other people do.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Now, in your greatest rapper ever metric, of course you have to have an accolade metric. You have to. But how important is that in your criteria? That's up to all of us. In mine, it comes way after ability. For others, it's equal footing. equal footing and i mean you can't argue against it if that nigga's metric it is so i never if a nigga tell me nikki minaj is the greatest female mc ever guess what no argument from joe she has done too much she's done a lot
Starting point is 01:04:40 and she dance boy she sounds great to joe's metric when i'm not really looking at accolades and i'm only listening to what i'm listening to and nikki minaj ain't standing nowhere where mc light is well i mean the funny shit is you're arguing maul's point from the beginning by the way he was saying you need to put all these things in there ability uh music albums lyricism he was saying you need to put all these things in there ability music albums lyricism he was saying you need to add all that in
Starting point is 01:05:08 and that's why he has Nicki there you guys just took accolades and ran with it that's not what Maul said he was saying you need to add all these things in
Starting point is 01:05:16 it's a factor and that's how she's on that list to me at number two so you guys all came to the same conclusion so we argue for nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Anyway. Kevin Spacey's a creep. Anyways, Nicki has sold 10.2 million albums total according to this from September 17th, 2017. Good for her.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I don't think MC Lyte has sold that much. I mean, just to clear that up. So you checked Minaj and you didn't check Lyte. I don't think it's going to be accurate the way Nicki's would be. So I don't think it's going to be accurate the way Nicki's would be.
Starting point is 01:05:46 So I don't think it's a fair point. But I just don't think. So all of the answers incorporate your own thinking. Yeah, that's what, yeah. I was looking for more fact-based stuff. Well, I thought he was checking Light. You think the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is a hip-hop album or R&B album? Probably not.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I think it's a R&B album. It's probably not. Yeah, it's a R&B album. Now why do you ask? I was just asking because a lot of people feel like that's a R&B album. It's probably not. Yeah, it's an R&B album. Now, why do you ask? I was just asking. Because a lot of people feel like that's a hip-hop album. No, the Miseducation is probably an R&B album. The problem is this. On the R&B album, Lauren rapped better than the dudes.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Right. The problem is on both Fuji albums, she rapped better than the dudes. And I'm not only talking about the dudes in her group. Like, we heard her outperform men on a regular basis. Go listen to fucking how many MCs. No, that's fucking how many. How many do we rip on the daily? Many.
Starting point is 01:06:40 See, I say many, many. She even ripped that fucking bullshit-ass first Fuji single. What was it? The commercial sappy one that I loved and begged somebody to buy for me because I was broke. But she ripped that. So, I mean, that's why she's like an anomaly.
Starting point is 01:06:57 She's a dude. Da Brat is a dude. There is not a woman that Da Brat should be rapping with and is going to be like, all right. This could be considered misogynistic, by the way. When your mentions are filled. This is the opposite of misogynistic. Have you heard a Da Brat album?
Starting point is 01:07:13 We're suggesting that men are way better and that these women are now considered men because they have great ability. This is misogynistic. You're mad, Woke. Because your mentions will be filled, I just want you guys to be prepared. And I'm not subscribing to this because I'm now on the Woke Twitter site. I don't even care enough about this to continue
Starting point is 01:07:36 the conversation. I just like fucking them all. This did go off on a tangent. Migos and their fight. They're going to fuck Joe up when they catch Joe. Wait, who'd they get in the fight with? Their own bodyguard. I missed this.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Yeah, and he came out and said it was just an argument. They went to the club right after that together. Which one jumped on which one's back for the piggyback ride? Because that was my favorite part. You remember in Chappelle's show when he's pretending to be puffy for the making the band shit and he jumps on his on his bodyguards back i think they were just trying to do like one of those skits on instagram where they redo old shit i think that's what they were doing so i don't think it was a real fight i think they were just redoing a chapelle show sketch hey cam
Starting point is 01:08:18 beef of security for henny palooza atlanta this thing is crazy i talk shit and go home of security for Henny Palooza, Atlanta. Word. This thing is crazy. I thought she didn't go home. What more? If you guys do want to come to Henny Palooza, it is in Atlanta this Saturday. I'll go hide somewhere. You guys can perform. If this gets them to come, I'm with it.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Pause. That was a reach. Save on. That was a reach. save on that was a reach I need that sound bite so let's make a mark of where Rory is begging
Starting point is 01:08:49 for men to come listen bro listen are you still salty from the Vogue shit yes now I don't care enough about this Migos shit
Starting point is 01:08:59 Maul I do not believe that they went to the club with the gentleman that I saw them attack he came out he posted a video I don't know he posted a video right so that would lead me to believe that they went to the club with the gentleman that I saw them attack. He came out and he posted a video. I don't know. He posted a video.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Right. So that would lead me to believe that he was at the club with them. He works with them. Would it lead you to believe he should be getting attacked by them? I mean, he said it was just an argument. See, that's what I mean. I don't know, man. I'm just telling you what these guys are saying.
Starting point is 01:09:19 All right. Listen. Do you think that they can fight? Who? Amigos? Anybody that was fighting in that not just man who have their friends all of them whoever attempted to fight i don't know listen man i i don't i don't say i think they can fight but i think i think i think niggas was drunk niggas was high i don't know, I think we just
Starting point is 01:09:45 saw a bad video man, I don't know I've never seen any of these guys fight but going off of that, that didn't look very good, no Thank you for an honest answer Yeah, I mean, because then a video might come out with, I'm just saying, a video might come out tomorrow with Offset in the ring hitting
Starting point is 01:10:02 the gloves and he might look decent throwing punches so I don't know. I'm just saying off of that clip. All right, ladies and gentlemen, make sure you stay tuned to The Dow. Never know when you'll get offset throwing punches at the speed bag looking awesome. The fuck is he talking about? It's a fact.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I don't care enough about this fucking fight. That's a fact. Yeah, blouses and all. Anyway, let's get to you white people. No, we got to play some. Which topic does that cover? Yeah, blouses and all. Anyway, let's get to you white people. No, we got to play something. Which topic does that cover? Yeah, mad years. I don't even have anything that's applicable for when white people are white peopling. Air horns.
Starting point is 01:10:41 One won't. Yeah, can it go louder? And gunshots. You know white people love them. One won't. Can it go louder? And gunshots. You know white people love guns. Alright. Rifles too. You know y'all love rifles.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Alright. What'd they do now? No Parks. What did we do? What did they do now now I separated myself years ago we have to take responsibility I'm Asian
Starting point is 01:11:07 Parks is Asian we have to take accountability for our actions listen man Rory and Parks explain to me what's going on
Starting point is 01:11:17 with your brother man which one is my brother oh oh no the garden hay worship was weeks ago when we tell y'all we're not all related and we're not all the same,
Starting point is 01:11:28 no one listens. Don't try to fucking which one of us now. You confused us. Everyone's your cousin. It was confusing. This is sad because Kevin Spacey's a great actor. Clearly. Clearly. I think that, in the words of you
Starting point is 01:11:45 I think that part is apparent Rory's funny sometimes man I mean I don't know that he's a gay he had a lot of suspect roles in his career man a lot the one where he was trying to
Starting point is 01:11:55 fuck the neighbor kid and like his daughter no that was real life Parks that's true that was a reality show he fucked mad dudes on the Netflix shit he's always been a little sus yeah there was a reality show. He fucked mad dudes on the Netflix shit.
Starting point is 01:12:06 He's always been a little sus. There was morning cards in there. Yeah. It was a slow burner, but you got it. That was all right. That was all right. Thanks, man. Listen. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here all week.
Starting point is 01:12:20 DVDs for sale right to the left. You would be selling DVDs. Nobody even has a DVD player anymore, and I'm selling DVDs for sale right to the left. You would be selling DVDs. Well, nobody even has a DVD player anymore, and I'm selling DVDs. Kevin Spacey attacked, groped, grinded on,
Starting point is 01:12:35 molested, and offered Patron to Homeboy. What's the little Homeboy name? Little Homie. Yeah, dude. Yo, this is the worst podcast in the world you can't call victims little homie and dude
Starting point is 01:12:53 well first of all Anthony Rapid what's the guy's name Savon alright everybody shut up Savon what is a homie's name?
Starting point is 01:13:06 You just bring it back to us. Homie. Anthony Rapp. See, I wasn't too far off. Thank you, Savon. Have y'all seen him? Because I didn't know who he was. He's from Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:13:19 And you trash if you love Star Wars, honestly. Honestly. All you niggas that ruled the 80s loving Star Wars. I couldn't wait to get older to tell y'all suck my dick. That shit is trash. That shit is trash. That's horrible. You niggas making 90 of them.
Starting point is 01:13:32 It's fucking 2018. We don't care. We're moving to Mars in a year. At all. So. They'll have the most knowledge. We should roll with them. Them niggas, man.
Starting point is 01:13:42 So fucking, yeah. Kevin Spacey allegedly he's not giving anyone space 20 you just had him lined up today didn't you yo we are so happy
Starting point is 01:13:53 to do a podcast with no guests I didn't know Kevin Spacey was gay though no more I texted my mother when it came out last night
Starting point is 01:13:58 I said wasn't he always gay I didn't know this was news we all knew the funny shit is he's like alright so I got caught humping a 14-year-old boy. I'm gay.
Starting point is 01:14:09 But by the way. No shit. Like we didn't grasp that from the first paragraph? Well, when you fuck 14-year-old boys, Kevin Spacey, we're simply gay. Now, we can't make too many jokes about this because this is sensitive sensitive matters here right oh man why are sensitive matters the most fun to laugh at but how are we supposed to feel about kevin spacey using the the gay flag to hide criminal acts. Where the hell is, man? Where's Jock?
Starting point is 01:14:51 We got Ja Rule on the phone. Let's see what Ja's thoughts are on this tragedy. Who gives a fuck what Ja Rule thinks at a time like this? This is ridiculous. I care what Ja Rule thinks. No, not Ja Rule, but just period. So Netflix canceled House of Cards. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Which I don't watch. Was it at a peak time? I don't watch it either. I don't watch it either. It's been kind of whack for like a season or two. But they're saying that that show was getting canceled this season anyway. That's been planned. So this is not a direct response to the allegations.
Starting point is 01:15:26 But it was good timing to say it. 100%. The gay rollout is crazy. The gay molester rollout is crazy. This went way better for Frank Ocean. The gay pedophile rollout. That's crazy. He got fucking DJ Envy out of here quick. That's crazy. We didn't even talk about Envy.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Wait, what happened with Envy? Come on, man. Oh, no, that was was fake but that was funny no that was really funny it don't matter it's fake so kevin spacey i'm gonna read this uh for the people who may live under a rock who are unaware kevin spacey released uh released some bullshit and it says and i quote i have a lot of respect and admiration for anthony rap as an actor i'm beyond horrified to hear this story i honestly do not i hear something in the headphones i hear that in the phone um i do not remember the encounter it would have been over 30 years ago. But if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate, drunken behavior. And I am sorry for the feelings he describes having carried with him throughout all these years.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Stop before you get to the next paragraph. To not remember doing that means you've done it a lot now rory is telling you that as my insider and mole to the white yes congregation we have an email server i do believe that when white people say i don't remember well shit black people too we probably got that from y'all y'all niggas say I don't remember and it means it happened that happened if you don't remember
Starting point is 01:17:11 Kevin Spacey no he doesn't know that if you don't remember groping and fucking massaging Anthony Rapp's fucking dick that it probably happened you can't say I don't remember to massaging dicks you need to say that it probably happened? You can't say I don't remember to massaging dicks.
Starting point is 01:17:27 You need to say that it didn't happen. If it's one thing you're going to always remember, it's when you massage someone's dick. That's what I'm saying. I would remember. So if he doesn't remember, he's done it so many times that he can now not remember the time it happened. The old blackout and falling some dick move.
Starting point is 01:17:42 No, Park. I'm not sure about that whole trick. Don't incorporate the word black into y'all shit. It's a whiteout. You niggas be bugging too. Now, he then goes on to say, this story has encouraged me to address other things about my life. That's wild that this encouraged you to do anything.
Starting point is 01:18:00 It's mad wild shit in here. How you attack massage a niggas dick and then you got the nerve to be encouraged that should not encourage you but whatever this story has encouraged me to address the other things about my life
Starting point is 01:18:18 I know that there are stories out there about me and that some have been fueled by the fact that I've been so protective of my privacy that is not where this is fueled from Kevin Spacey stories out there about me and that some have been fueled by the fact that I've been so protective of my privacy that's what this is that is not where this is fueled from Kevin Spacey as those closest to me know and Anthony Rapp that night was indeed closest to me he didn't say that I just added that part as those closest to me know in life, I have had relationships with both men and women. I have loved.
Starting point is 01:18:49 I hate when niggas start telling me they're gay and they've loved people. We get it. It's love. Love operates. I have loved and had romantic encounters with men throughout my life, and I choose now to live as a gay man. He chose then to live as a gay man too, Kevin Spacey. I want to deal with this honestly and
Starting point is 01:19:10 openly and that starts with examining my own behavior. Signed, with love, Kevin Spacey. That's wild that it was signed with love. Well, I added with love. Same shit. Parks and Rory. Wait, how did he sign it?
Starting point is 01:19:25 Parks and Rory. Parks and Rory. Explain this. Honestly. Y'all make it make sense for me. This is basically saying, yo, massage your dick when you were young. My bad. Yo, we was wildin'.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Keep it a bug. I don't even remember that shit. Yeah. Yo, she was crazy that night. It's fuzzy. But I mean. I don't even remember that shit. Yo, shit was crazy that night. It's fuzzy. But I mean... It was the 80s. Yeah. Were you voguing with Joe?
Starting point is 01:19:51 That's what Kevin Spacey voice. Oh, man. I would never vogue with Kevin Spacey. Are you kidding me? I think I'm trying to vogue other body parts and shit. Don't try to laugh off while I'm begging y'all for an explanation of why white people are white people i'm sorry trying to get past you voguing with kevin spacey i'll fuck him up you come try to vote with me listen are you asking me to make sense of groping young children because i'm not
Starting point is 01:20:20 going to sit here we should be more mature than to make fun of that. I just can't believe the audacity of certain white people. Honestly. Like, I know that white privilege is a real thing. I do. And I speak about that freely amongst my white friends. I don't feel as if they invoke their white privileges when I'm around. So, I don't care. They're black to me.
Starting point is 01:20:38 We'll keep it balanced. Yeah, yeah. Y'all respect me. The moment I leave your crib, though. Have a blast. Hold on. Listen. Get a cab immediately.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Like, whatever you want to do, my G. By the way, if you think just getting a cab is white privilege, you have this all the way fucked up. That's what we're fighting for. Fuck. No, but. I don't even think about the cab. Outside of. This fucking nigga.
Starting point is 01:21:04 What was we just talking about? White privilege. Yeah. I don't care.. What was we just talking about? White privilege. Yeah. I don't care. Kevin Spacey's rollout to his gayness. Harvey Weinstein is white, right? He's white. I don't think it gets whiter than Harvey Weinstein. Alright, Harvey Weinstein. Jewish white man in Hollywood is one of the whitest things you can do. That's where I was going. White privilege
Starting point is 01:21:20 is a big thing. Hollywood privilege is a big thing. When you combine the two and you get powerful Hollywood white men and they pretend to be liberals so it's even funnier. Yeah, and that's why I'm a little disappointed. I thought Kevin Spacey was down with us. I did. Honestly.
Starting point is 01:21:36 That could be ignorance on my behalf. You know, black people, when we like someone's ability, we root for them. I was fucking with Kevin Spacey. Chris Rock made that joke when he did the Oscars monologue during that Oscars so white campaign thing. He said when he was meeting with Obama at the Screen Actor Guild
Starting point is 01:21:53 or whatever, he was like, these are the nice white people. And we still can't get shit. Yeah. He did make that joke. Yeah, he delivered it much better. I was so heated when that was on. I couldn't really enjoy it. That was tense times for black people.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Don't relate to us. I was just trying to say a joke from a black guy. That's all I was doing, bro. Harvey Weinstein completed his one-week program of exhaustion or fucking sex deprivation shit. He made a mistake. He's cured now. He did his time. He's a. Sex deprivation shit. He made a mistake. He's cured now. He did his time. I was a lone wolf.
Starting point is 01:22:29 A lone wolf with the allegations. It's really nasty if you're a pervert. And I am. So I'm getting out of this entire conversation. Speaking of that, your man Tyrese is bugging. We have to continue with our Tyrese coverage. Tyrese dedicated Let's Get it on to his daughter it was a modified version dog it's called let's get it on why and why would you modify any version of any song called let's get it on and add your daughter into it I don't think you should modify let's get it on period that's probably your only
Starting point is 01:23:02 problem with this which is terrible if you If you're going to do it. That's a big problem. If you're going to do it, it shouldn't be to your daughter. I'm going to leave it alone. We fuck with Tyrese a lot on this podcast. We do. He's a friend of the show. He is a friend of the show.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I'm just, this one was. I say all the time, he texts me from time to time, but I think that this is such a serious, sensitive matter, and he really seems to be going through it and fighting for custody of his daughter that I'm going to wait for it to play out and leave it alone. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Was that a photoshopped image on his Instagram of his hospital bracelet where his name was not Tyrese Gibson or whatever his last name is. It was Black Father. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Is Odell still in the hospital? That's a mall question. Is Drake still in the hospital? That's a mall question. No Drake still in the hospital? That's a mall question. No, mall. No, honestly. Why was Odell and his mom hugging for mad long and posting on Instagram like he was dying? Well, in his defense, Joe, it was a picture.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yo, I ain't hugged my mom since I was two. This nigga is in the hospital hugging his mom. He can't hug his mom. When was the last time you hugged your mom? Honestly. And took a picture of it. Definitely didn't take a picture. That's my point.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I probably hugged my mom this weekend. Oh, you're trash. Your mom is trash. Damn, you don't see your mom and hug her? No. Hell no. My mom, you know what? And let me say, my mom wanted a shout out to my mom.
Starting point is 01:24:23 And I'll press the round of applause button as soon as I find it. Damn it, I meant to play this when we were talking about Kevin Spacey. In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. You hear that, Kevin? In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Special Victims Unit. Wait, isn't... These are their stories.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Isn't Dick Wolf a fucking pederast? No, someone he hired. Someone he hired. Oh. So, I was gonna end Law & Order forever if it was him. It was somebody that he hired that only worked on like six episodes. Okay. Yeah. I would not give Dick Wolf a pass, but
Starting point is 01:25:00 if he created an episode, you know how he does like around current events? If he made an episode about himself, I might watch it. About himself? You're saying that he, Parks was saying that he's a sexual predator too. No, not him, no. I would watch Dick Wolf do a show about him being a sexual predator in SVU. You can't be a sexual predator and be named Dick.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Or can you? I need the law and order. Right there. I was going to press it. We're all film. I was telling the fine gentleman here and fucking Rory and Maul that Trump is on his way out. I know we don't talk politics on this podcast just because, I mean, I choose not to talk politics,
Starting point is 01:25:48 religion, and I used to say music with people until that became my job. But Trump is on his way out of here. I know that people don't see the writing on the wall if you don't pay attention to politics, but the feds are involved. And when the feds are involved, things go a tad bit differently.
Starting point is 01:26:04 This morning, they nabbed his campaign manager. They said he had a wire. I don't fuck with snitching, but I fuck with that snitching. He 100% had a wire. When the feds come, they come into you saying, give it up or we're getting you, your mom, your dad, your son, your daughter, your uncle, and your aunt. It's conspiracy. We know it. Give it up or you out. Nigg conspiracy we know it give it up or you out niggas normally
Starting point is 01:26:26 tend to give it up so that's why you know more you were saying you don't think he's out of here on this but i think this goes a little different because the feds are involved and everybody with two eyes and ears knows what's going on we just got to prove it yeah it I definitely think Trump is on his way out of here now I don't know that that's the solution because then we get Pence then we can deal with how to get him out of here Pence is just a more articulate
Starting point is 01:26:57 asshole he don't talk as much I don't know if he's so articulate we don't hear from him because he's smart but when we hear from him sometimes he's stupid I don't know if he's so articulate. We don't hear from him. Because he's smart. But when we hear from him, sometimes he's stupid. I don't know if he's... No, he's not as dumb as Trump. So that's not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:27:11 I'm not talking about his politics. Just strictly human being shit. Anyone willing to be, you know, vice president with Trump is along the same cloth as Trump. Or he was using him. Why do you say that? And saw all the show happening and saw where he'd get in.
Starting point is 01:27:27 I mean, Dick Cheney to George Bush, it's similar. There's a smart guy behind seeing, all right, let me just have the more relatable guy to America lead this path and I'll just make all decisions behind that are my own agenda
Starting point is 01:27:39 and fuck everyone in the ass. Wait, is this true? Peyton Manning is being accused of sexual harassment? That's been true for a while. No, that was the old one. That's the old Peyton Manning is being accused of sexual harassment? That's been true for a while. No, that was the old one. That's the old Peyton Manning. This is from the coast,
Starting point is 01:27:49 not the Broncos. No, the old story when he was a volunteer still. I'm saying there seems to be a new story. And I like Peyton, so I'm not getting into it. What are y'all doing out here?
Starting point is 01:27:58 White privilege, man. Yo, man, you fucking white people going crazy out here. How about this? The only sane nigga. Yeah, white people, white people in, man. If I go to Harlem now, I will see so much catcalling and sexual harassment.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Get the fuck out of here. Today? Today, yeah. Not so much anymore. Old Harlem, not this new shit. Shit look like a spoof. Right. Talking whistling off the roof.
Starting point is 01:28:24 You know what I mean? Whistling off the roofoof whistling off the roof you know what I mean whistling off the roof whistling off the roof I felt Jay when he said that shit old Brooklyn new Brooklyn two different worlds
Starting point is 01:28:31 I am I for one am getting great satisfaction out of TMZ versus Bossip no the white the white
Starting point is 01:28:41 Fox there's a really big Kathy something say Vaughn find me the Kathy Griffin Kathy Griffin The white actress. There's a really big Kathy something. Say, Vaughn, find me the... Kathy Griffin? Kathy Griffin. Is nobody enjoying that? Because I am. She's giving it up. That's what she's known for, though.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Kathy Griffin don't give a fuck. What did she call Trump that got her fired from something? Didn't she get in some trouble recently? Well, yeah, she got fired for fucking holding up the Trump head. The decapitated head. She didn't give a fuck. some trouble recently well yeah she got fired for fucking holding up the um the trump head the decapitated head and she didn't give a fuck but what i'm saying is this is interesting her taking on tmz because she is giving it up she ain't holding really back and i know you people TMZ but she's spitting some truths there so I for one
Starting point is 01:29:26 am pardon me paying very close attention as that unfolds I guess I'll leave it there because our audience doesn't give a fuck about Kathy Griffin and TMZ's ongoing feud what else is that Jam Master Jay's death
Starting point is 01:29:42 has been ruled a cold case yes that happened only this Jam Master Jay's death has been ruled a cold case. Yes, that happened only this week. Just this week they ruled it a cold case. Pay no mind to the fact that the case has been cold for quite some time. They are just determining this is a cold case. Pay no fact that there was cameras in the studio. Pay no fact that there was cameras outside of the studio.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Pay no fact that they know who did it. Like, I can't believe that shit is a cold case. That's insane. Well, they and the police aren't ever the same. They always know who did it. They be knowing who did it in a heartbeat. They ain't telling them. Let's see what else is going on here.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Oh, did y'all read the, Speaking of Trump and nuclear wars and all that The Andre 3000 article that was in GQ I did I thought it was a great article He lives in a nuclear force So if you see him out Befriend him in case it all goes to shit Is he just downtown chilling?
Starting point is 01:30:39 Yeah he lives in Soho Which is wild Because usually you get rich And leave New York and buy a mansion in Atlanta. He bought a mansion in Atlanta and then moved to an apartment in New York. I thought that was a weird... I saw him on the corner on 34th by Victoria's Secret just standing there. I saw a bunch of pictures of him in Union Square.
Starting point is 01:30:58 I definitely need a verse. I need a verse. If he lives in New York, I would ask him for a verse. I literally walked past him, and it was one of those, like, is that on G3000? And I turned around, and he gave me the look like, what's up? He was like, yo, is that Maul? Is that who? Matt.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Who? Fuck out of here. The Maul in the Southern accent wasn't my name. I didn't even say nothing. I said what he said. That's not what he said. How do you know? You famous too? I'm not famous. You say, yo he said. How do you know? You famous, too?
Starting point is 01:31:26 I'm not famous. You say, yo, is that Three Stacks? He's like, yo, that man. Is that who? Oh. That's the worst Southern accent ever. That's that Three Stacks? He don't even have a Southern accent. Yo, that man.
Starting point is 01:31:39 He definitely has a Southern accent. No, he doesn't. Three Stacks? Even when he rap, he has a Southern accent. I don't think he has a Southern accent anymore, though. Three Stacks? Even when he rapped, he has a southern accent. I don't think he has a southern accent anymore, though. Three Stacks is saying that Big Boi is a better rapper
Starting point is 01:31:49 than him. Do y'all agree or do you disagree? I think he... Do I agree that he said it? Or do I agree... Or do I agree that it's the truth? So you agree.
Starting point is 01:31:58 It's definitely not the truth in my opinion. Well, no. The context was he said if there was a battle, they would choose Big Boi, which I don't think is far-fetched let's not just jump out here with that one now i understand the theory and i didn't remember the world that he comes from no no era he comes from yes big boy would
Starting point is 01:32:19 might be a better match in a battle than three steps. I definitely was play battling Big Boy when we did Wild N' Out. He didn't take it well and he shot back that Raekwon jab. I'll have to go back to that. Boy, nigga, you lucky that we playing around up here. I didn't care about all that legendary shit
Starting point is 01:32:39 then, in the moment. Big Boy is the nicest guy in the world. You couldn't find a nicer person than yeah he might mop you up word joe think he could beat everybody up that's true so you take an andre 3000 singing caroline in a battle one i mean maybe that's what i'm saying if he's battling i don't know listen andre three stacks walking about. Caroline! Caroline! I'm amazed. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I'm picking him. The crazy nigga in the grad skirt. First of all, Big Boy mopped up Caroline way better in that song than Andre 3000. Caroline! The backups on that song. The fucking backup vocals are amazing on that song. Wait. No. Shut up, Rory. Big Boy's verse he cleaned up. All right. This is a hot take. song the fucking backup vocals are amazing that's what um wait no shut up rory he big boys
Starting point is 01:33:27 all right this is a hot take i'm not paying i'm not paying any money um go back go back and listen no tell me i'm wrong i'm not doing it um kevin spacey we don't care uh pineapple belongs on pizza and that's that uh no it doesn't i don't trust anybody wait all right time out all right i will admit to you guys my cousins come over sundays now because i'm trying to be close to my family they order chicken and pineapple i went there two or three weeks ago in one of your little sunday fun day shindigs i walked in and saw the most offensive pizza i've ever seen in my entire life and went back in the kitchen to where our old girl was frying chicken and said, I think I'll just hang out here for the rest of the day. Was it the chicken and pineapple one?
Starting point is 01:34:10 Yes, there was something. Okay, I thought I was the oddball. Anytime somebody orders a chicken and pineapple pizza, I just assume Ryguy ordered it. I'm the one that doesn't eat it, and I'm the only one, and everybody tells me how great it is. I don't trust people to eat chicken and pineapple. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:34:23 How did you even learn that? Tell me what you were doing. Pineapple on pizza is just wrong. It's wrong. And chicken? Chicken on pizza is okay. Chicken on pizza is wrong. I've had some barbecue chicken pizza
Starting point is 01:34:35 that's all right. Who put chicken on a pizza and then said, hmm. You know what this could use? This needs a citrus fruit. A soggy citrus fruit. This needs a citrus fruit. A soggy citrus fruit. This needs a citrus fruit.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Who is saying that? Nobody. I don't trust any of them. I don't know how we ended up talking about pineapple pizza. Let me see. JMSJ said that. Bob McNair. Bob McNair.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Do we care? Fuck him. It's Texas. I don't know why we're all surprised. I mean, that's true. It's Texas. I don't know why we're all surprised. I mean, that's true. It's Texas. Listen, NFL players are clowns. I was going to...
Starting point is 01:35:09 I wanted more to talk because I saw more... A lot of things and I was hoping he was going to say them on the podcast. I'm sorry. NFL players are complete fucking clowns. I don't care how strong you are. Anytime I see you niggas in the club, I'm laughing at y'all from now on. You niggas are clowns. Wait, there's clubs still?
Starting point is 01:35:25 Well, yeah. In New York? Yeah. But NFL players are clowns. Tell me more. Y'all clowns. There's no way that you should still be playing football. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I don't care about your money. I don't care about you wanting your check. You're a clown. You don't care about people taking care of their family. You can take care. They don't have money already? Not everyone. None of us are professional athletes, and we are okay in life.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Well, that's the only thing. We are okay. That's all they dedicated their life to. Okay is relative. I don't care. There's other shit you can go do. That's subjective. There's other shit you can go do.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Right now, owner could come out and call, yo, you niggers will be on the field tomorrow, and they will still go out there and play. They could run any place. Owners can say anything now. They can say whatever they want to the players, and the players will still go out and play. Because you need money to live.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Fuck that money. It's other money. It's money other places, man. Look at Rory. He's been unemployed for weeks, and he's okay. It's funny. Side note. Word. He get unemployment money, and he can lose the money this guy's body and shit edit that part i just got uh an update how i was thinking i get these emails i have a material handler here for 1578 an hour i have a
Starting point is 01:36:39 packer for 14 an hour a state government,000 a year. Packer was the one when I was a kid at $14 an hour. If you can get the Packer job, my nigga, you would. By the way, this one,
Starting point is 01:36:50 barber, $48,000 a year. You can apply online to be a barber. Stop right there. Meter reader, $32,000 a year. All right,
Starting point is 01:37:00 I have a new question for y'all. Code enforcement officer. How much money, and I'm going to segue this into my question I had to y'all about women. How much money do you need to make to live comfortably in New York? I ask that question every other year. It depends on your lifestyle.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Correct. It depends on what you call comfortable. Are you saying survive? Surviving is relative. It depends on what your level of comfort is, though. Right. Everybody's level of comfort is different. I've been dead broke in New York and still made it happen.
Starting point is 01:37:32 That's my point with these football players. I got to support my family. Yeah, fuck out of here. Listen, man. Listen, if the boss at your current job called you a nigga to your face, you're not showing up to work the next day. Period. Get some Henny, throw a party. If you do that you're a complete clown if you don't believe in your ability as a man to do something other than play for the nfl team and to support
Starting point is 01:37:55 your family then you're not really a man i don't agree with that okay then you don't agree with it you don't rap no more you still support your family right or wrong yes all right then so do you agree with what I'm saying? There's other ways to make money. That's a good point. Let me see if that point still applies after I reply. That is a good point. Because I was going to say the football players have been playing football since they were five,
Starting point is 01:38:24 and they know nothing else, and they've been held on a pedestal, and held to a higher degree of standard because of their physical abilities. And because of that, they've been afforded certain luxuries in life, like not paying for college and all these millions of dollars. They're also used to, with going to college, they're used to a system where they're used. Because that's exactly what they do in college. The biggest problem is that the collective bargaining agreement,
Starting point is 01:38:51 they have no guaranteed contracts. I don't know why they don't just strike because of that alone. Now that is where the strikes should occur. Right. Peace out. Fuck y'all. They should be watching what's happening in the NBA and how the NBA lockout and that CBA went and how it
Starting point is 01:39:07 affected the players later on. They should be looking at that as the model and saying, oh yeah, lockout time. Sorry, no more football for a year. Listen, man. I understand you're a football player, but if that's the only thing you can do in life is play football, then the problem is bigger than I thought it was.
Starting point is 01:39:24 A lot of these other players, a lot of these players, you can't tell me that all you think you can do in this is play football then the problem is bigger than I thought it was. A lot of these other players a lot of these players you can't tell me that all you think you can do in this life all you have to offer this world is be a football player.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Well I'm not disagreeing with you at all but to get to that level of athletic ability that's literally all you have to do in your whole life. Go play rugby.
Starting point is 01:39:42 I agree with I agree with everything Maul is saying. Go play rugby. go play right but go to the cfl yeah i mean i i i see that much different in canada i know why everyone thinks canada is paradise it is mad racist people i'm looking at the other side of the coin only because i do believe at the top of of most systems you'll find a racist right so in music I'm trying to think if that same thing were were true in music what would happen I do believe that a lot of the the label heads at the top tippity tippity tippity top some of them may have some views that are not so empowering the
Starting point is 01:40:20 black people listen here's my thing right there's a bunch of racist people in the world right it's racist but if they're openly saying but when you are openly saying that you shouldn't accept it no there's no what what did kneeling do right let's get to it what didn't what the detection is going out kneeling before what did that accomplish pissed off the racist because i see pictures of them kneeling you know who else i see kneeling the photographers that are taking a picture of kneeling while the anthem is being played. You got to get the angle. So what the fuck? What is kneeling doing?
Starting point is 01:40:49 Like, you niggas are clowns, man. Kneeling says, we heard you call us niggers, and we don't like it. Now, back to niggering. Niggas is clowns, man. That's the bottom line. Football players are clowns. There's no way I would be playing football in the NFL. You ain't playing football in the park, nigga.
Starting point is 01:41:05 I'm just saying, if I was an NFL player, I wouldn't be playing. You think that's specific just to the Texans, though? Like, you don't think Robert Kraft is a little bit racist? That's why. All of them can be racist. What I'm saying is when your owner directly comes out and says some racist shit like that, I'm not. You cannot go out there and play.
Starting point is 01:41:22 There's no conversation to be had. You cannot go out there and play. That's the bottom line. I don't give a fuck about that. Fuck that money, man. I'm not rolling cannot go out there and play there's no conversation to be had you cannot go out there and play that's the bottom line I don't give a fuck about that fuck that money I'm not rolling with that Maul
Starting point is 01:41:29 because and this is why and no I agree with you but I have to argue with you I always say here and I be playing but I be halfway serious with y'all
Starting point is 01:41:40 you and Rory's well Rory's white so I don't count him but your support of the Patriots cause isn't it the same thing Bob Robert Kraft supports Trump Tom Brady supports Trump the same way that McNair supports Trump so just explain to me the difference you support them as a team you don't play but you support them yeah but but I support them as just as the players on the field
Starting point is 01:42:04 after Brady takes off his jersey and goes I don't care what Tom Brady does. I don't care what Robert Kraft does. You're supporting an organization that while the jersey is on, they take the proceeds and contribute them to... I think it's a much bigger problem that Robert Kraft supports Trump than Tom Brady. So tell me more. The owners run the entire league. That's the system of that league.
Starting point is 01:42:29 They are in control. Tom Brady is an employee of the NFL. Robert Kraft dictates what happens in the NFL. The owners dictate. Players do not dictate. No, players dictate. They could. They could.
Starting point is 01:42:40 That's the mentality that has to be changed. There's no NFL without the players. But they're proving now that the players don't. No, they're proving now that the players don't give a fuck what they call them and how they treat them. That's what they're proving. Rappers definitely need a union. As y'all have this conversation, that's all I can think of.
Starting point is 01:42:56 That's what they're proving. And that's my point. The owners are only sitting back laughing like, oh, we can say whatever and do whatever the fuck we want now. They're still going to go out and play. And that's the crazy part to me. So that's why from now on, all you NFL niggas is clowns. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:43:12 It is what it is. Y'all still going out there playing for these teams and this organization that clearly doesn't give a fuck about you. I mean, I thought the way they did Colin Kaepernick would have been reason enough for anybody to be like, oh, no, this is fucked up. And I do hear they're trying to invite him to the player owner meetings. His lawyer said today that he'll be signed in 10 days. Oh, did he? That was via his lawyer, yeah. He'll be signed in 10 days.
Starting point is 01:43:37 They're trying to dodge that lawsuit. Of course that's what they're trying to do. So they definitely have something there. Of course that's what they're trying to do. So they definitely have something there. And if Cap was real, and Cap is real, he should say fuck that little 10 days you'll be signed. And just show exactly the evidence that you have. Because obviously it's some crazy evidence if they're now going to sign you.
Starting point is 01:43:59 So we don't know how far we'll go. Yo, this might get much. I didn't hear that story, so I didn't even allow my mind to wander there if colin kaepernick is signed in a week my nigga the nfl i'll ask i'll ask from the outside looking in was anything kaepernick did worth it if he signs with the team and does not leak whatever information that proves what he's been kneeling for after the police brutality. Let me ask, let me ask the un-PC version of what you're saying. If he signs,
Starting point is 01:44:31 how are we looking at him? Can he sign? To block whatever evidence he has. That's what it looks like to me. Don't talk to me about no evidence. We know the legal ramifications. I'm talking about Colin Kaepernick, his stance,
Starting point is 01:44:47 his passion, his fight, and and him signing not the smoking gun not the court case not any of that can he sign with a team and us look at him well my question then would be and i think he's a hero i i do modern day hero i'm a huge cap fan my thing is if there's now an offer on the table, is it already a wrap anyway? So you might as well go take that money and use it for your backup? You're not signing to come be a backup? Until Teddy Bridgewater, somebody comes back? And then the way he gives away that money, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:16 I'm not sure if I'm mad at him. Oh, please. They ostracized him when he gave his entire check to fucking all of our favorite charities. Right. So, I mean, it don't matter what he do with the money. Damn, that's crazy, Roy. I wasn't ready for that twist.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Yeah, I just feel like if he signs with the team, obviously if you put the pieces together, he's now being offered because he's suing them and clearly has grounds to sue them. And they say, all right, fine, we give in, we'll sign. To me, what Cap has been doing is not to get back on the field. It's a much bigger problem that he's bringing back to. Okay, so they're going to sign him and then a week later,
Starting point is 01:45:50 another police officer is going to kill another black unarmed kid somewhere in America and then what? It just dawned on me. He'll never sign. He can't sign. He cannot. He cannot sign. It fucking, it ruins all the validity of his case if he does sign.
Starting point is 01:46:08 The lawsuit is over if he signs. That's definitely happening. So it's in the NFL's best interest to try to sign. That's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. But I know this is why I'm saying no, he won't. I was trying to figure out if he could. No, he can't.
Starting point is 01:46:21 The answer is no. He cannot sign. He will not sign. But what if it's already out the window because now he has offers because of this? You know what I'm saying? If his argument is that collusion is happening and now he's got a million deals on his hands. Listen, if Colin Kaepernick signs an NFL contract, he's a clown. Period.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Paul's right. He's a clown. I'll call him a clown to his face. You're a clown. Let me think about this. Not to take away what he's done, but, dog, it's like... In an NFL contract, he's a clown. He's a clown. Let me think about this. Not to take away what he's done, but dog, it's like. In an NFL contract, he's a clown. He's a clown.
Starting point is 01:46:50 What are you talking about? You are a clown. You're a sellout. Yeah. We forgot what this whole shit about him was about. You're a sellout, yeah. It wasn't about shit owners were saying. It was about what's going on in the country.
Starting point is 01:47:01 And then they blackballed him out of the league. Now because he has a case of going against them, they want to give him a contract and you're going to take it? That's hush money, man. You're taking hush money. Shut up, little black boy. Here, take this check.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Shut up. Get back out there and get CTE. Catch a concussion and can't walk 20 years from now. And trust me, anyone that's speaking out against players kneeling and obviously missing the point of why are going to run to, well, Colin Kaepernick's back on the NFL. Exactly. So there goes your case.
Starting point is 01:47:31 If he signs, he's a clown, man. Wendy Williams has CTE. All right. You got to chill, bro. What's wrong with you? I just know it wasn't overeating. That's all I'm saying. Can't even be funny on this podcast anymore.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Not when Wendy collapses, no. The collapsing part wasn't the funny part. Getting back up was the funny part. The Statue of Liberty part was the funniest part. It was the shake. Why you shaking? Body shut down. You never, you passed out before.
Starting point is 01:48:03 I passed out yesterday. Exactly. I always pass out nothing wrong passing out um let me see what else is really real oh i was gonna ask y'all a question but i mean it seems out of place we've been fucking dissing everybody but i did have a really good question for you guys from women and i wanted to hear your thoughts i'll just ask it in closing we can get the fuck out of here. When is it appropriate for women to call us broke niggas?
Starting point is 01:48:29 When we don't agree with them. No, our version. Our version. Our version of it. Not theirs. When should a woman call a nigga broke? When she got more money than me. But what When she got more money than me.
Starting point is 01:48:47 But what if she got wild bread? What if she got mad money? Okay. Then I'm broke? According to her? Yeah. But you can't have... I was expecting a little more detail. I was expecting a deep read here.
Starting point is 01:48:58 You can't have less money than the dude you calling a broke nigga. Chicks call niggas broke niggas that really have money. I've seen it. I'm like waiting that day. He's far's far from just because he don't want to spend no money on you he's a broke nigga because chicks do that if you don't want to spend money on them directly are you a bum nigga you ain't got no no that's not what my bank account says i'm okay and you know what i love when they say that they think that'll be like oh well now that you think i'm broke let me buy you something. Now I'll spend it on you. Yeah, bitch, can you get the fuck out of here?
Starting point is 01:49:29 That shit probably do work, though. Strippers love calling niggas broke niggas that ain't tipping in the club. They love doing that. Okay, in their defense, this is the only time I would defend that. You're at a strip club. You should spend money on the strippers. Shit. Yeah, but it depends if I'm attracted to the stripper.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Just because you got a bill to pay and you want to come shake your little loose thong in front of me. I stop going to strip clubs because I don't throw money at strippers. No, I stop going to strip clubs because the strippers are not worthy of my presence. I'm not paying no girl I wouldn't even give a fucking cat call to outside.
Starting point is 01:50:00 And I'm not paying you to make a Coca-Losa all night. And, and, word more, and why am I giving you to make a Coca-Losa all night and and word more and why am I giving you 200 for the lap dance when the dome is a buck
Starting point is 01:50:10 if I just stick around longer hustling backwards oh Parks is gonna kill me sorry Parks I called that yeah well shut up I knew that was
Starting point is 01:50:21 Parks has so many stains on this carpet because of just all right there, too. Yeah. That's why I think he chose this colored way. Yeah, I did. It hides.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Joe's going to come over and squish it all over the floor. Whatever. That's fucked up. Oh, no, no, no. I got to bring Maul to homie court. I forgot to mention that. Wait, let me get the music. Come on.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Let me pull some music up really quickly. This is Maul Maul is being brought to court Because he let Joe wear Their stupid fucking vests On Love and Hip Hop And the other day When they played the marathon
Starting point is 01:50:56 We were reminded Of how stupid Those fucking vests were That Maul made Joe wear Maul's denying this But Rory was there For all of it So Maul's on wear. Maul's denying this, but Rory was there for all of it. So, Maul's on the hook
Starting point is 01:51:07 for at least $3,700, the price of all the custom vests that we never got to see again. Is this a case of the best or the best? Let's find out. Judge Rory, proceeding over the proceedings.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Take it away. Maul, do you remember the vest that Joe had on in his confessional for Love & Hip Hop? See, here's the thing. Oh, wait a minute. Just yes or no's now. I'm going to answer the question. I gave Joe
Starting point is 01:51:39 one vest to wear that my homeboy made. He wore it for a whole slaughterhouse. Can I ask? He never wore it on the show made. He wore it for a whole slaughterhouse. Can I ask? He never wore it on the show. He never wore it on the show. Joe, with his addictive Joe behavior, with his addictive,
Starting point is 01:51:54 he started accepting vests from any nigga on Instagram that was making vests. That nasty ass vest he wore in this confessional, I never saw that vest until it aired on television. And I'm like, yo, Joe, where did you get this vest from? Nobody wants to tell the truth. The only reason I'm bringing you to home and court is from my understanding. Did you live with Joe at the time?
Starting point is 01:52:17 Yeah. So you let Joe walk out in the I'm proud to be an American Trump supporter National anthem singing He put eagles on his fucking vest Eagles The red, white, and blue An army vet begging for change Wouldn't wear that fucking vest Okay, so now you wanna hear the thing?
Starting point is 01:52:39 Here's the thing You wanna hear the thing? Here's the thing Hold on, this doesn't get Joe off the hook for wearing it No, no, no, here's the thing You wanna hear the thing? Here's the thing. Hold on. This doesn't get Joe off the hook for wearing it. No, no, no. Here's the thing. You want to hear the thing? Here's the thing. Joe's just in court.
Starting point is 01:52:48 It's not homie court. When you film in Love & Hip Hop, when you do your confessional, they keep that outfit. Okay. You take an outfit there, and they keep it. I never saw that outfit. They should have kept it. No, I never saw that outfit. Joe was just, again, his addictive personality. I'm playing this music all through. He just went vest crazy. No, I never saw that outfit. Joe was just, again, his addictive personality.
Starting point is 01:53:06 I'm playing this music all through. He just went vest crazy. He started taking vests from any nigga that had a vest. And was just wearing them. Do you have any vests? So that had nothing to do with me. I gave him one vest that was dope. And he just went vest.
Starting point is 01:53:21 The same thing he's doing with these frocks right now. And I'm trying to tell him, yo, dog, you're bugging. So I would compare that to- Three years from now, we we're gonna look back at frock joe and be like yo what the fuck you're the guy saying listen i gave him his first hit of crack and now he's a crackhead how is that my phone no no the first vest i gave him was dope but he wore that to describe that vest it had the um eagles no it had the... It had something to do with like... It was like graffiti on it with like music. It was something. It was like a...
Starting point is 01:53:50 It was drawn. It was something drawn on it. That post office... This is bad appropriate music for what you're saying. You had rebellious post office vest on. You look like you worked at the post office and you ripped the sleeves off because they fired you. All right, Rory. All jokes aside, are you ready for the real story?
Starting point is 01:54:05 Yes, I would love that. Because Maul is guilty. Of what? And let me tell you how I know. I heard his case. Say, Vaughn, do something with this shit I spilled. Please, if you don't mind.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Thank you. Rory, let me tell you how I know that Maul's a piece of shit. You know that, you do know that I know I'm not the best dressed right i've admitted that yes i say it all the time i know i don't care niggas make jokes all they want i only
Starting point is 01:54:30 seem like i dress well because i'm with academics daily outside of that i am well aware the right guy i'm well aware i can't dress so rory you weren't there but imagine right no i gave you the only dope shit you wore on that show was that bomber jacket no it's much worse than that though listen to me you knowing that i know i can't dress and knowing that we're about to go on television and knowing that i think maul not only is pretty well dressed but is normally the coolest person in the room when it was time for awkward introvert joe to be in front of four million people on television who do you think i went to when i laid all the vests out on the bed to say hey ma and cory which one of these you think i'm
Starting point is 01:55:20 killing them with and i never pointed at that and the three vest. And the three of us stood up over my bed, paused, to examine these three laid out vests and say, hmm. I never pointed at that vest. Maybe it was this. No. The red is what will. No. So when I wore that vest, I will come clean.
Starting point is 01:55:40 No. Hold on. No. Let me play the music here. No, no. Not how that went. I'm going to come clean. Oh.
Starting point is 01:55:46 I picked something. Let Mo reply. I picked something that was the total opposite. Joe on his shit. You know when Joe got his mom in, you can't tell him nothing. Like, yo, you bugging. You bugging. He probably said, I'm going to brand these vests.
Starting point is 01:55:59 I said, okay, cool. This is my marketing plan. I said, okay, cool, though. But I think he took three different outfits there, and they test them. I don't know how they do it. Yeah, with the backgrounds and the colors. And that was the one they went with. I wasn't there when they did all that.
Starting point is 01:56:13 I wasn't at the Love & Hip Hop place when they did all that. I see TV real time with y'all. I assumed you were right behind that camera. No, hell no. When they had that vest on, I was like, nah, that ain't the one Joe went with. He ain't go with the I am proud to be American vest. We don't even know if joe is american that's the crazy shit about this he looked mighty fucking american in that confessional okay now joe i spent my entire friday night i did not go out i watched every episode unemployed n of People. Unemployed niggas Fridays is trash. It don't matter. Friday mean nothing to me.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Go ahead. You did not go out. I watched as Kaylin and Tahiri fought backstage at BB King's. I know a backstage when I see it. I'm sorry. Who are these people? You're just going to have to. You know who they are.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Let this one go. You watched Tahiri and Kaylin fight. You watched Tahiri and Kaelin fight after you invited your ex to a fucking green room with your current girlfriend and watched them fight. Great. Cool. Lower that, please, because I'm not screaming over the people. We're fine. You then went to your ex's job the following day and said, the least
Starting point is 01:57:26 you can do, the least, Tahiri, that you can do is fuck my current girlfriend. That's actually fire. Wait, but wasn't it last week that he said... Son, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:48 He said he never asked for a threesome, which was a lie. I told y'all last week that was a lie. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Y'all niggas worship him. First of all, don't touch my fucking soundboard, niggas. Wait a minute. Y'all count that as an act? Lie!
Starting point is 01:58:01 You asked on television. Oh, boo. What does that count as? Boo. I'm booing you. I'm booing you. Y'all on television. Oh, boo. What does that count as? Never. I'm booing you. Okay, boo me then, nigga. You still asked for the threesome like I said you did.
Starting point is 01:58:11 I'm booing y'all. Okay, boo me then. Fuck it. Yo, where in your brain driving to Tahiri's job with another vest on that he picked some slaughterhouse
Starting point is 01:58:21 happy face, smiley face shit on the back that looked like it was clipped out of a magazine. You know all the ransom notes? He had his snapback snapped to his waistband walking across Dykeman and Broadway. Joe was just a mess, man. And Maul was with me.
Starting point is 01:58:36 I wasn't there. Not telling me to change. I wasn't there. I didn't see you that day. I want to know where in your brain. We lived together. I didn't see you that day. Yeah, but you was getting up eight in the morning and jumping in a white caravan and going about your business yeah they
Starting point is 01:58:49 pick niggas up in some white bum ass caravan wait a time out from the joe loving hip-hop jokes did y'all see sofia body last night i did or tell everybody she's sofia body i never see sofia body unless you gentlemen show me Sophia body. She did introduce herself as such. I am Sophia the body. Where? Somewhere. I'm glad she was the last of the wave
Starting point is 01:59:16 of just bitches putting body at the end of their name. She ain't the last. It's somebody right now waiting to get their followers up on IG. Buffy started it. Sophia ended it. That was the end of the bodies. She's a DJ now. It was not important to have a body anymore. And shout out to Sophia Body.
Starting point is 01:59:32 I salute you. Oh, wait. I salute you. You do not salute Sophia Body. No, in that American flag vest. You better salute me if you salute Sophia Body. That's not true. Why not?
Starting point is 01:59:42 Why would I salute you? Why are you saluting Sophia the body? I'll tell you why. Okay, tell me. I have a list. He wears Pledge of Allegiance vests. He's going to salute anybody. That's a fact. You're right. No, not today because I'm damn near married. Six years ago, I had a list
Starting point is 01:59:58 of all the girls that you should want to fuck but shouldn't. That's a hilarious list. No, I had a top five, too. So Sophia, who I'm tight with, I'm tight with Sophia. Okay. Like, she hang.
Starting point is 02:00:17 So one day I was telling her she's on the list of girls that you should want to fuck but should never fuck. And she asked me why, and I told her why. And then she asked me who else was on the list, and I told her who else was on the list. And she totally understood. Now, I don't know if I'm ready to divulge that list here. Stephanie Santiago is on that list. I love Stephanie Santiago. She's my people. She's like my fucking sister.
Starting point is 02:00:39 Oh, my God. But I can see it. Not the sister line. No, no, for real. No, go ahead. No, you got it. I'm just saying. Who else sister line. No, no, for real. Go ahead. Now you got it. I'm just saying. Who else is on the list, man?
Starting point is 02:00:50 You know a few of them. I'll tell you the list off air. Oh, this is a sucker. I'll tell you the list off air. Aisha Diaz. That's a three banger that's hard. That's a big three? Y'all know I can name two more. I'm following. y'all know i can name two more i'm following
Starting point is 02:01:06 y'all know we just want to know which you can name 10 i can name 3 000 in new york i'm not doing that uh y'all know what i mean shout out to sofia body listen uh who else is going to keep shouting out sofia the body i'm trying to segue into fucking i'm trying to just crack on webstar if you want to be honest but you keep bringing it back to Sophia Boddy Webstar why are you on Love & Hip Hop telling Rich the same thing that every producer with a fake woman act has told Rich for the last 7 years
Starting point is 02:01:34 of Love & Hip Hop oh that's where this is coming from Sophia's on Love & Hip Hop Graff one of the fucking illest rappers ever Graff you're great with words the fuck is going on Graff. Graff. One of the fucking illest rappers ever, Graff. You're great with words. The fuck is going on, Graff?
Starting point is 02:01:49 Why are you fighting Mandisi's mom on television, Graff? Wait, what? Oh, yeah, this is Love Man. I don't watch that. Nobody does. I'm just telling you what's going on in the streets. Safari's back. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Why is that, my man? Because he called me at 11 o'clock last night saying, yo, Joe, where can I eat at Edgewater? Got to find one with me. But everything's closed. That means nothing to me, by the way. Also, dry snitching. And because I told him exactly where to go three times,
Starting point is 02:02:20 that means nothing to me. That don't mean someone's my man. That means I know some good restaurants. That means that shit. What's your little joke, Rory? Come on. What's your joke? I know when you're trying to get a joke off. I just said it was dry snitching. That's not your man because you just snitched. Oh, no. That's not my man. But Safari's my nigga.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Salute Safari. There's a lot going on. Safari gotta come here. Remember first year of our podcast when we bumped into Safari? Well, I bumped into him and I'm saying he should do our fucking interview. Yeah, Safari gotta come here and explain himself. He dresses a lot cooler in New York. I will say that. when we bumped into Safari? Why I bumped into him? And I'm saying, he should do our fucking interview? Yeah, Safari got to come here and explain himself. He dresses a lot cooler in New York.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I will say that. It's not coconut oil in New York. What is it? Pause. The coconut oil was going on graph after he was fighting Manteese's mom. Before. That's what started the fight.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Why is Yandy putting coconut oil on graph? Why are y'all watching this? Yandy put coconut oil on graph? Why are y'all watching this? Yandy put coconut oil on graph. I was watching it. Why am I watching this? Me and Sen are fucking alumni. We laughing all these niggas. Wait, wait, wait. New York is the one I watch. Yandy was putting coconut oil on graph. And then Mandisi from jail
Starting point is 02:03:18 had his mom check in on Yandy to see what she was doing. And as Mandisi's mom walked in, Yandy was rubbing Safari's coconut oil on Grav. And Mandeezy's mom didn't like that shit. And she said something about it. She tried to snuff that nigga. Oh, nah. We gotta get out of here. Love and hip-hop gotta get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 02:03:34 And then Lil B. Not Lil B. Not the real Lil B. Rory's fucking ex. The little chicken noodle soup girl took her fucking shoe off and threw it at Bizarro, the chicken noodle soup girl took her fucking shoe off and threw it at uh bizarro chicken noodle soup girl you have to watch love and hip-hop honestly no one else is watching it but you should watch it because i'm watching it i'm not watching i can't believe there's five
Starting point is 02:03:58 more black eggs too while i'm at it man dc man dc called yandy and we're gonna assume that man dc's following all the rules and does not have a cell phone in prison. Yandy said, picked up the phone, said, yeah, I'll accept the charges. Yo, let me call you right back to Man, DC's in prison. Hey, that's a lot better than I did my Uncle Walter when he used to call me from prison. Let me call you right back. I was never pressing five. What number are you dialing, Yandy?
Starting point is 02:04:23 I was banging it on Uncle Walter. That nigga was mad. I love that water anybody you ever dissed it's the least you could do right um I think we covered everything no we didn't say any oh it, it's the least you could do. It's fuck the girl that you just fought. That would have been such a trash thing. No, we got addressed because we never talked about it. Joe's episode of The Therapist.
Starting point is 02:04:58 Oh, yeah. We need to get into that. We never talked about that. We never talked about how Joe tried to give The Therapist therapy. It was a good episode, but just because I know Joe, I couldn't stop laughing. By the way, I also find it funny when people call other doctors doc that ain't they doctor. Yeah, doc. Joe was talking to the therapist like he was in the elevator with him and they was just riding to the lobby together.
Starting point is 02:05:23 No, Joe Biden. He was in the elevator with him, and they was just riding to the lobby together. No Joe Biden. And then you tried to throw my man Varan under the bus, blame him for your craziness. Yeah, my brother pulled the hammer out on me when I was in town. And you know, that fucked me up forever. I'm like, nah, not my nigga Varan. Don't do my nigga Varan like that. He ain't the cause for your crazy shit.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Don't do that. Word. He is not the cause for any of this. You not going to do that. Shout out to Varun, man. That's who I'm shouting out. Shout out to my nigga Varun. Fucking shout out to Varun. Yeah, that's my nigga. Get out of here, Varun.
Starting point is 02:05:54 You're going to try to blame my nigga for your crazy shit. That's Joe's little shysty brain because he's been to therapy and he knows you can find some little thing from your childhood and they'll be like, that's the cause for everything. You're okay. It's that person's fault. Because that's what they do in therapy. Joe diagnosed himself.
Starting point is 02:06:10 He's like, yeah, Doc, you know, I used to get my ass beat. And I'm like, nigga, we all got our ass beat. We ain't crazy. He was asking me if I got spankings. Oh, my god. And I got spankings. And then we got to the deep-rooted issues from slavery that fucking spanking stemmed from and then i identified
Starting point is 02:06:26 with what the doc was telling me we all we grew up in black households i got my ass beat i'm nowhere near as crazy as you are the doctor says i don't care they all then forget it i don't care what the doc said you didn't care what the doctor said you had more to say than the doc said i didn't care what the doc said the doc gave me some to say than the doc said. I did care what the doc said. The doc gave me some very great advice. What? I love therapy. I love therapy. You love giving therapy in the therapy session.
Starting point is 02:06:50 I just said I love therapy. You was diagnosing the doc with some shit. You was trying to impress him. What I said to him? Because you was like, doc, why do you say that? Who impresses a therapist? Doc, doc, doc, why do you think that? Because, yeah, the last therapist didn't say that.
Starting point is 02:07:02 You realize how wild it is to impress a therapist? You hear more stupid voice. Go ahead. Doc, doc, why do you think that? Because, yeah, the last therapist didn't say that. You realize how wild it is to impress a therapist? You hear more stupid voice. Go ahead. Doc, why do you think that? Why do you think that, Doc? Because the last therapist thought the same thing. And I'm just still trying to figure out why he thought that about me. I'm like, yo, I got to tell you.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Why do I know this guy? Like, I'm sitting there looking at that. Like, I really know him in real life. That was terrible, Joe i got out to the dock shout out to the dock shout out to the doc i got a lot of great information from the doc boy was about him about his life and his upbringing oh that's interesting uh clowny wore prison jumpsuit for halloween but he's saying it's not a shot at the owner yeah he'll be out there sunday that's hard yeah that's hard he'll be back on the field sunday well i don't know if i subscribe to all right all right here's a quick question for you
Starting point is 02:07:57 is jamelle hill clown and then tell me the difference. Jemele Hill, I'm not going to say she's a clown because, like you said, they warned her before they suspended her, and she made comments again that they spoke to her about. So she went out there, and she made more comments, and she suspended. Yeah, that's insubordination. You can't really argue that part.
Starting point is 02:08:26 But the owners couldn't say the same thing? That's way different. We warned y'all. No, I agree. I'm saying if we put ourselves in the headspace of the owners, could the owners say, we warned y'all to stand and fucking whatever they're saying, and y'all didn't do it and now there are repercussions.
Starting point is 02:08:46 Not the direct way. So if you continue to do your job we're looking at you a certain way. I don't know, Mo. I don't know. It's tricky. It's just tricky. But the national anthem with the NFL, they tell you, you can stay in the back. You don't have to come out
Starting point is 02:09:01 on the field for that if you don't want to. But if you do come out on the field, they're asking that you stand. I don't know if you're allowed to stay in the back you don't have to come out on the field for that if you don't want to but if you do come out on the field they're asking that you stand i don't know if you could if you're allowed to stay in the back uh as an individual anymore as a team maybe that is always changing i i thought you could stay in the back i thought if you were on the field for the anthem they used to never even come out for the anthem yeah they never even that that's something that recently started a few years ago oh nine i think oh. Yeah. 2012, one of those years. So it's like, you know, I mean, but again, it's just funny because like somebody was saying, when you look at, you know, if the national anthem is such this big deal, you
Starting point is 02:09:34 know, when the national anthem is being played, the cameramen on their knees taking pictures, they were filming the players on their knees, like concession stand workers are still selling popcorn, walking around. So it's like, how serious, you know what I'm saying? selling popcorn walking around. It's all a joke at the end of the day. It's a joke. Jamel Hill, her situation was different. I do want to interrupt
Starting point is 02:09:55 this program. Nicki Minaj has just gone on a Twitter rant about Joe Budden. 22 minutes ago. Getting him the fuck out of here. I haven't even read it yet. You didn you know we was this is going live about me nikki's tweets read as migos weren't even on it yet just quavo the conspiracy theories are so tired relax breathe imagine me not knowing who is on a song with me
Starting point is 02:10:21 i was on the song with quavo no one else was it. He called and asked if I think we should put Barty on it. Oh, yeah, Carty with the beak, the blood on it. I said, okay, let's do it, the end. These men in our culture who simply to refuse to let it go, they don't do this to male MCs, but yo, Motorsport is number one on urban radio. Anything with my name on it gets approved by me. It can't even go on
Starting point is 02:10:46 streaming service without me hearing it and giving written approval. So Joe Bud needs to get the fuck out of here with that bum ass vest. Talk your shit. She brought the vest into it. I lied about that part. I told Maude that that wasn't the red vest we should have went with.
Starting point is 02:11:03 You told me. For real, why you want want the red Eagles vest? Whatever. And your response? None. Clearly to you. Use the word theory and men. Yeah, anytime word theory is brought up, Joe is definitely somewhere in the building.
Starting point is 02:11:21 But listen, you know what's funny about that? Okay. Okay. Joe was guessing. The guess is not far off in the building. But listen, you know what's funny about that? Okay. Okay. Joe was guessing. The guess is not far off from the truth. All right. I don't see the point. Got you out of here.
Starting point is 02:11:33 That's all. Nicki letting you know she a boss. No, nothing get approved until she say so. Nicki Minaj. Lyrics got approved. Nicki Minaj, let's be very, very clear here. Oh, God. Your album is due first quarter of 2018.
Starting point is 02:11:52 I know that because you have announced a tour in 2018. You're not touring Pinkprint. For you to even be a first quarter artist now, it's crazy to me. Let me point that out there now. Times have changed. The big dogs don't necessarily own the fourth quarter anymore. But you tweeting to Joe Budden like Cardi album and Remy our album is not do at the same exact time and like universal is not putting your album out just for product placement among other women that labels are spending millions of dollars on because they have spent too much money on you
Starting point is 02:12:30 and they're just looking for recoupment at this point i say all that to say you shouldn't be tweeting about me is she i'm the least i don't know i'm just talking shit about what rory's saying but but i know that was definitely about i do the only one that's been talking about a theory. I believe that her tweet on Sunday was to me, too, to say, hey, all the rap critics with my phone number, text me to say it's crazy. Well, I don't have your phone number. I don't think it's crazy, and I wouldn't text you that. I don't care about you trying to mold and shape public perception. You're great.
Starting point is 02:12:59 How you maneuver is not. I'm able to separate the two. I'm sorry you're too insecure to be able to do it for yourself but sorry uh so off of that nikki's great shout out nikki um i can't wait to go listen to the rest of this chris brown album uh did we get everything is there anything happened we talked about halloween we don't give a fuck about halloween right no this weekend no i've noticed something happening this weekend well halloween have you noticed that the slutty era is kind of going away? No.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Going away? It has slowed down. It has slowed down. I saw a bunch of chicks coming up. I saw a slutty Dora yesterday. A slutty what? Dora. That's weird.
Starting point is 02:13:36 Dora the Explorer. Dora. I bet she's freaky. Chicks is out here with their whole titty out and just X's on their nipples. No, listen. That was it. Every chick was naked on halloween i feel like i've seen a lot of women fully dressed up can we i'm not wrong quick question when is halloween today today because i swear motherfuckers had on costumes for two weeks now yeah me too niggas had on costumes for a lot longer than that well yeah but i mean it's like dog when is halloween like officially
Starting point is 02:14:05 you don't want me to listen one of these podcasts if i were truly woke i'm gonna invite my cousin up here one of these podcasts one of these times cousin walter's coming up here to tell y'all the true definition of halloween and christmas and all the fucking fuck shit that white people have put into the world but that's another time for another day so shouts you the white people have put into the world. But that's another time for another day. Shout out to the white people. Shout out to the white people. Shout out to everybody. Do we have sleepers?
Starting point is 02:14:32 Yeah. Nothing's happening this weekend, right? November. Rest in peace, Robert Guillaume. I'm messing his name up. Oh, yeah. Benson. Benson died.
Starting point is 02:14:42 I actually used to watch Benson. So that hurt. Rest in peace to Benson. Rest in peace to Domino. Amazing. Amazing, amazing. Legendary jazz, iconic jazz player. So rest in peace to Fast Domino.
Starting point is 02:14:55 I think we covered most of it. If I missed something, my most humble apologies, or suck my dick, however you choose to call it. All right, man. Henny Palooza, Atlanta. We're there Saturday. Come by hennypalooza.com. You have a sound bite for this
Starting point is 02:15:13 or are you picking a sleeper? I'm looking for a sleeper. All right, then I'll go. Noel. This is not my sleeper. No. A Noel? No. I knew you were going to play some of J.J. my sleeper. No. A Noel?
Starting point is 02:15:25 No. I knew you was going to play some Majid Jordan shit. Okay. Now what? None. I looked and seen the artwork. Oh, all right. This is Majid Jordan, Gave You a Love Away.
Starting point is 02:15:38 Yo. Yeah. No. Turn me into headphones real quick, Parks. Hey, remember that? Turn it down. I got to get some bars real quick. No. Turn me into headphones real quick, Parks. Hey, remember that? Turn it down. I'm all going to get some bars real quick. Yo.
Starting point is 02:15:49 Yo. Everything but a bar. Okay. It's not okay. It's not okay. You don't even wanna be friends Pretend you like me I take time for love That's right Your love takes hold of you, take touch of love, babe I tried my best to explain it
Starting point is 02:16:29 But I had to throw it all away I said I love you, baby And I, I gave your love away I said I love you, baby And I, I gave your love away I said I love you baby And I gave it I gave your love away I said I love you baby And I I gave your love away I said I love you baby And I, I gave your love away I'm in the courtyard of your mansion in Westlake
Starting point is 02:17:33 Feeling away about today with a gray Check it on, moving along, checking my phone Thought I heard you call, I was wrong Why has it been so long? I said I love you baby And I gave your love away I said I love you baby And I gave it, I gave it, I gave your love away I love you baby I gave it, gave it, I gave your love away
Starting point is 02:18:17 I love you baby I gave your love away That was Majid Jordan, Gave Your Love Away on the new album, The Space Between, no pun intended, to Kevin Spacey. Just bad timing. That's what you yelled from all the way over there? Let's see. I'm going to play Jag.
Starting point is 02:18:58 This is the outro for his new tape, Dalton Ave. In stores November 10th. Well, not stores, but you get what I'm saying. We ain't goin' nowhere though It's just the beginning Surs was at it Yeah The old homies like Zilla, I see you poppin' I smile back like my nigga, I see you watchin' And just know that a nigga be seein' A-day
Starting point is 02:19:37 Guaranteed I'm bangin' on niggas, I see you blockin' I see you droppin' for real I don't fabricate nothin', stay to the fact, no lie You can feel what a nigga say to the tracks On God, I'm eatin' now cause I had the place in the trap Eight pound like a guard, I'm thinkin' straight to the rack Facts, R.P., my thug niggas is missin' Stun like I pushed a drug, niggas is dissin' Blue flame, Atlanta, me and D.B. throwin' racks
Starting point is 02:19:58 Nigga, diamonds so blue that my blood, niggas, is trippin' Damn, it's A.M.G. though, I can't forget that Never try and eat by myself, niggas can split that Comfort where a kid got a burner like niggas with that it's real And to think that gun used to be a kit-kat These niggas callin' it rap, it's feelin' like noise Dogs in there, my music feelin' that void I meet bitches that say they wanna demean me
Starting point is 02:20:19 I'm thinkin' like who could beat me, I walk up feelin' like Floyd Who dreams, turn to drive-bys and shooting buckets He run the game, let's find out the peak of moving crunches Yeah, buffet rappin', I'm trying to eat again R.I.P. to my brother, no, we gon' meet again Sound like that nigga trashin' the beat again Gordon Hayward just trying to get on my feet again I beat the system, them niggas trying to get beat again
Starting point is 02:20:40 I'm shitting on them, it's poop stains on my seat again They better say I sick You'll see Kappa Nick play before they say I quit, yeah My clique stunnin', my shit comin' Got em pumped like the Reeboks, no A.I. tip I know some real felons out here doin' real tellin' I told her scream at me, it's funny she still yellin' We came up from bus rides to cruise ships
Starting point is 02:21:01 Mama see that new women, she think that I'm still sellin' Yeah, my niggas gon go pop guys, that pop guys We came up from hot fries to yacht rides Flashing on them like cop rides with Pock Dye Real shit, I cannot lie, my block cry I told my lady, keep faith, do it like big woman All that drunk in your trunk, look like you hear somethin' Yeah, treat niggas nice, girl in your life is a vibe
Starting point is 02:21:21 If you treat niggas right, you gon' have kids comin' Yeah, black boy just tryin' get white money that hollywood new movie hype money that two rips mayweather fight money only way a nigga sign a deal is for the right money facts started flipping way like i'm a trapper now switched up like look ma i'm a rapper now i got a pen and i was made into bread niggas hey i guess they love me when I fade in the red. Jack. Yeah. Delta Nav. I want to thank y'all for coming out with me, man.
Starting point is 02:21:51 And joining this little vibe. You know. This was dope. This is Jack. Outro to Delta Nav, man. November 10th. Delta Nav. Shouts to Jack. Joe, do you plan on joining us?
Starting point is 02:22:03 Shouts to Joe Button Salute Joe Button in stores Right now Go get it Raise your mouth Go get that though Hey
Starting point is 02:22:18 Did we pass the year anniversary Yes we Round of applause For fucking Rage You bitch ass niggas. Hey. Loud applause. Loud applause.
Starting point is 02:22:28 Hey. Mad, quiet applause. Shouts to the Knicks, man. Knicks are like, you trying to do something, Joe? I wish they stopped. I wish they would stop. I watched the Knicks blow a 24, 25, 26 point lead yesterday with 13 straight turnovers to the Nuggets. They won the game.
Starting point is 02:22:50 But that was abysmal to watch, number one. Number two, if I watched the game last night and I'm judging Frank Nikolai Vokov off that game, I subscribe to your thinking, and you're correct. The Knicks hate him. If I'm only going on the game I saw before that, he looked pretty good. He was disruptive. I see what people see in him. I'm not saying he'll pan out. And that's my Knicks take.
Starting point is 02:23:12 I think it's only right that we end with Chris Brown who put out 180 songs. A lot of these shits are fire. I'm not talking about Kid and B. I'm talking about the adult music. A lot of these shits are fire. I'm not talking about Kid and B. I'm talking about the adult music.
Starting point is 02:23:28 A lot of it is fire. I'm going home to edit this shit and create a playlist. I will not listen to Kid and B. But. A few of these records he wowed out on. Me too, Chris. Talk to these niggas. Hey!
Starting point is 02:23:49 Oh, my hair on. It's not working. I get caught up in my feelings And regret the things I said It's not magic I regret the things I said It's not magic Baby, there's no secret to love We used to have it
Starting point is 02:24:25 I just didn't fight hard enough To hold on to you now Still keep thinking about the way you look It's way too hard for me not to sit and remind Love is so tough, make the memory hit so hard It's so hard, make me wanna think back Make me want that old bang back No, no, no, no I haven't felt this way in years
Starting point is 02:24:58 I want it all to stop now, girl, I hate to dream about you Cause I don't know how I'm gon' live my life without you It's so hard, I'm almost in tears But this dangerous game, girl, I've been playing Can't seem to stop It's not magic Baby, there's no secret to love with the background I still keep thinking bout the way you kiss me And it's way too hard for me not to sit and reminisce
Starting point is 02:25:50 Love is so tough, make the memory hit so hard Hit so hard, make me wanna think back Make me want that old thing back Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh read that? I'm tryna vibe out, can you feel that? It's not magic Baby, there's no secret to love Feels too heavy I just didn't fight hard enough To hold on to you now I still keep thinking about the way you look And it's way too hard for me not to sit and reminisce
Starting point is 02:27:00 Love is so tough, make the memory hit so hard Hit so hard, make me wanna think back Make me want that old thing back Oh no, no, no Oh no, no, no If anybody in here knows I kill that beat as parts Chris is second I'm all beat, it's Parks. Chris is second. Mall, third.
Starting point is 02:27:29 He won't admit it. This beat should have a verse on it from somebody. This is crazy. Look, it's still rapping. It's still rocking. Me and Chris ain't really seeing eye to eye right now, but somebody need to put a verse on there no not me ball nigga there you have it
Starting point is 02:27:53 brand new by my man Chris Brown on WB W no I changed the name of my imaginary station to JBUW. Yeah, I'm trash. Whatever, man.
Starting point is 02:28:09 I don't care what y'all say. So listen, Forever is a mighty long time in stores right now. Brand new Big Crit album. Real nigga's been waiting for this album. And listen, sure did he deliver. Big Crit delivered on this album. He's an independent act y'all know how I feel
Starting point is 02:28:26 about independent acts that are talented and that are passionate and that are consistent so Crit is working Rory is gonna end us with a beautiful
Starting point is 02:28:35 Crit record if you not if you have not heard the album yet stream it I won't tell you to buy it cause y'all don't buy shit
Starting point is 02:28:43 and Crit is aware of that which is why he left that shit so and put out a double album for streaming yeah you guys go ahead and stream this fucking album but it's hard
Starting point is 02:28:52 what track are we playing from Crit man this is Price of Fame he bodied this shit oh man nothing I'm not even talking I was going to hate
Starting point is 02:29:00 on some particular artist that gets praised for these type of records and others don't but damn nah yeah yeah I was going to hate on some particular artist that gets praised for these type of records and others don't, but. Damn, no. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:10 Oh, let me just say, Grit said it's a beat in my inbox. Not with a verse on it, but a beat. For what? To listen to? That's what you do to beats. Because you don't rap on them. Hey. Well. That's the only reason I be. Because you don't rap on it. Hey! Well!
Starting point is 02:29:26 That's the only reason I've been rapping. To woe. Papa Rossi after my shows asking me questions. God fed up with my soul so ain't no blessings. Happiness can't be bought a soul. I learned my lesson. Now I see what fame will really get you. Bout about a nightstand to ease the stresses.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Dealing with depression. Peels on the dressing dressing Feeding for affection so I'm buying out the section Now I see what fame will really get you Lifestyles of the rich and famous That lifestyle left a lot of rich folk brainless To the temple Yeah we were broke but that life was simple Besides food is food, water is water Air is air, the rest is melted I did without until I did within I said on beat what I wrote in pen I gave my all without giving in But it's a thin line between heavenly divine And living a life of sin Speaking cold to my worthy friends Green room full
Starting point is 02:30:21 I pray we ain't let the devil in A lot of faces I don't know A lot of where you been's like you was really looking for me When I was in the wind, life is just a game now I rarely got my aim down to shoot for stars I ain't been to church in years and it ain't even far This ain't even half of the battle, I ain't even star All I do is record I see what fame will really get you Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 02:30:48 I see what fame will really get you Now I see what fame will really get you Yeah, yeah, yeah Paparazzi after my shows asking me questions God fed up with my soul so ain't no blessings Happiness can't be bought a soul I learned my lesson Happiness can't be bought a soul I learned my lesson Now I see what fame will really get you
Starting point is 02:31:04 Bout a, bout a nightstand to ease the stresses Bout a, bout a nightstand to ease the stresses Can't be bought a soul, I learned my lesson Now I see what fame will really get you Bought about a nightstand to ease the stresses Dealing with depression, pills on the dressing Feeding for affection, so I'm buying out the sections Now I see what fame will really get you I bought a bottle just to soothe my soul Still crying over granny, that was some years ago I'm a man now, I came up to hold my fam down
Starting point is 02:31:26 Can't tell them about my depression cause most them fans now Gotta protect myself at all times I know some partners that's been sued by they bloodline Lord forbid I let my blood dine The first time I say no, guess we ain't blood now Scared me as a businessman, it's like all they see Justin Scott, trapped as big crits, screaming it's really me When it was only us, it was only love, how could this be?
Starting point is 02:31:50 They falling out for some, it's not getting the VIP And a simple conversation means we talking work To play a song that's almost perfect, but it need my verse You got an artist, but I'm family, but you need a purse You hit the city, but don't call me first That's what fame is I'm a rossi after my shows asking me questions God fed up with my soul so ain't no blessings Happiness can't be bought a soul I learned my lesson
Starting point is 02:32:15 Now I see what fame will really get you Bout a bout a nightstand to ease the stresses Dealing with depression, pills on the dressing Feeding for affection, so I'm buying out the sections Now I see what fame will really get you right ladies and gentlemen brand new from my man big crit on jbu that's jb no jbno i forgot the name of my station man my station is trash J-B-U. J-B-No. J-B-N-O. I forgot the name of my station, man. My station is trash. J-B-U. Dumb.
Starting point is 02:33:16 I see why radio's dying. Any last words from anybody? We're not forgetting anything. Did we talk about Beach House 3? No. Briefly. We mentioned it. Oh, man. Damn. Damn, I should have played Drop Top in the rain. I've been blasting that shit all week. You heard that, Chris?
Starting point is 02:33:36 All right. Maybe you do know a little bit about R&B then. Why you said that like distraught? Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, that heard that. Yo, that's how you... Nah. Yo, did y'all know Chris was an artist? Y'all know that? Like, rapping?
Starting point is 02:33:55 You rap? Chris has music videos on YouTube. I didn't know. You about to be my sleeper pic. Y'all didn't know that? I had no idea. Wait, Joe, you didn't know that? had no idea wait Joe you didn't know that wait a minute
Starting point is 02:34:07 what's your artist name wait hey y'all didn't know that wait so this is your everyday struggle podcast from your artist no no no the show
Starting point is 02:34:17 everyday struggle you missed it I wasn't calling you a struggling artist I ain't no struggling over here my G yeah like fuck out of here
Starting point is 02:34:24 this is your way after artistry but then you left it up I wasn't calling you struggling over here, my G. Fuck out of here, nigga. This is your way after artistry? But did you left it up? Yeah. It's still up there. I was peeping it one day. Don't tell me what. Wait, don't tell me.
Starting point is 02:34:36 What did you peep? Don't say peeping. I can't remember the name of the song. Don't peep anything else. Wait. Oh, shit. You heard him? You heard the guy, eh?
Starting point is 02:34:44 No, I don't think that was. He was walking... He was walking down the street. Yeah. We not well versed on your whole discography. Yeah, he mad I don't know about the new butter. He like, yo, I got a new batch I just cooked
Starting point is 02:35:00 up. Nigga, you ain't get that yet? He like, yo, that's mad. Oh, it's new to us, nigga. Well, listen, I had one name name can I search this music his name Chris Rita wait it's your name are you trash real name no gimmicks and I'm sure your name is Joe bus anybody with a real name is trash me you Joel beat is hard, though. Hey, what's up? All right. Hey, they just crit. Sleeper pick alert.
Starting point is 02:35:29 Hey, next week. Next week, brand new from Chris Reeder featuring Savon. I'm just plugging everybody. I'm plugging it. Hey, get it together over there. Chris out here performing, jumping on stage. Wait, are you jumping up and down? Oh, we saved this nigga's life.
Starting point is 02:35:44 His eyes are man-made. Chris gonna tear you up. Wait, don't diss me on YouTube, nigga. I'm out. All right, podcast is over, man. We out.

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