The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 152 | "What Would You Do If Your Son Was At Home?"

Episode Date: March 7, 2018

Once again it’s on! This week Joe, Rory, and Mal discuss Charlamagne’s beef with Mal and the headlines from the Oscars (5:00). Tory Lanez dropped his sophomore album this past week and the guys give their thoughts on it as well as Tory’s interview at the Breakfast Club (40:55). Rick Ross’s medical scare caught everyone off guard which allowed Joe to reflect on how important Ross is to his life (56:17). And who’s the best group in Hip Hop right now? The Migos or Rae Sremmurd? The guys debate (1:31:25).... Don’t forget to cop your “Friend of The Show” T-Shirt. Make sure you check out the link below for the official podcast merchandise and more information. https://twitter.com/joebuddenpod/status/967165738409758722?s=21 Other topics include: -Joe, Rory and Mal discuss DJ Khaled’s new song (30:06) -Joe addresses Rosenberg and all the “Lil” rappers -The guys discuss the ESPN work environment allegations (2:08:09) Sleeper picks of the week: Joe: Alex Isley “When It Rains” | https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/when-it-rains/1339727195?i=1339727853 Rory: Phonte “Cry No More” | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtw2o1akZdc&feature=share Mal: Maliibu Miitch “The Count” | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XzmrlxHDf8&feature=share

No, no, no, no, chill. If he don't know, if he don't ask more, if he ready for war, he said, what war? What's the point of having soldiers if you don't use them? Yeah, what's up? Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two, man. Oh, we was recording? Yeah, we in the building.

Justice, please. Justice, please. Hey. This how we feeling? This how I'm feeling out here on a beautiful Wednesday How's everybody doing? Hey Ross is alive

Yes It's magnificent And he's living it Yes Sing it John Legend and he's living it. Yes. Sing it, John Legend. Take it away. John Legend is the exact singer you tell to take it away.

Oh, yeah. You just take it away. Take it away. Microphone check. One, two, one, two. We are live in the building. Episode number 150 what? Two.

One. Two. All right. One? Two. One for two. Look at us being dope. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We almost made it to the Bronx. Almost all the way uptown. No Joe Biden.

Street names. Forget it. Wait, what did he say? Time passed. What's up? How's it going? Oh, the streets. I see what you did there. up i get it yeah all right episode 152 of the joe button podcast i am your host joe button uh alongside me i hate alongside me it is rory maul parks erickson and savon gentlemen how's everybody doing great i'm cool i feel like for the last few weeks like we we've gotten straight

into the podcast and i haven't really checked on you guys so how how is everyone doing fantastic all right so i'll tell you my interpretation of how everyone's doing that's way more fun so did does everyone know parks did a podcast with uhmind? I did. I had no idea. Plot twist. And I'm not saying I like Illmind. I didn't know he had a podcast, though. He does. Blapchat.

Shout out to those guys. Well, you know we have a theory about when a bunch of geeky guys get together and start talking technical gadget shit. I can see Illmind and Parks having an interesting conversation. I click on the Illmind podcast to hear Parks, and then I don't hear Parks because Parks don't talk. I think they start off without the guest. Yeah, I learned. So I fast forward through that part.

That intro part to hear my friend. And then they're naming all this nerdy gadget bullshit, but like differently. I'm like, oh, I'm out of here. They're like, oh, no tools. We're not being paid, so how about booty loops? I'm like, all right.

Too much for me. Yeah, booty loops is a little crazy. That's what they were saying on the podcast. I didn't say that. But Shad, the ill mind, great producer. Absolutely. He is a great producer. Good guys over there.

And girls. And girls. I clicked on Rory's Insta Live, and I saw beautiful buildings. Thank you. And clouds. I'm acting like I made those buildings in the sky. It looked good, man. I've been in move mode.

I'm happy to actually come out of my apartment today. It's the first time I've been out in about a week. Nice, man. That's why you're looking paler than normal. Than usual. My beard's longer. I've been stressed. I will say, I will give my friends the last dollar I have, but I'm not helping anyone

move ever. Don't ever ask me to help you move. You're going to get a no from me. I'm always conveniently late. It's not going to happen. I always show up in time for the pizza and beer. Moving is the worst thing in the world. Never helping a friend move.

It's awful. It's a lot of work, especially if they don't have an elevator. Let me know when the housewarming is. I'll bring you a blender. And where are you moving to? Niggas be moving to the Bronx in the walk-ups, no elevator. That's crazy. Niggas be having mad couches. Relax on the Bronx talk.

But I'm just saying, niggas in the Bronx have mad couches. It's a couch in the kitchen. In the narrowest staircase ever on the sixth floor. It's a couch in the kitchen. In the narrowest staircase ever on the sixth floor. Yeah, how'd you fit a couch in the bathroom? Relax. Maul, I'm glad that you are in your... All right, I know what's going on.

Roy, say something real quick, man. Let me get my nigga high pause. We got to get him with his Yerr Yankee hoodie on, which I like a lot. Yerr. And if you're listening to this podcast and make that sweatshirt, I will wear it on here too for free. Just send it to me in a medium and I'll wear it.

Yes. Tell us that's supposed to give me a full day. Hey. We in wartime nigga hey we're not in war ain't no idiots brilliant nigga hey ain't no ain't ain't no clubbing at breakfast time nigga sit on me trash anyways you try to shit on Maul? Huh? Can't shit on Maul. You crazy?

Hold on. Let me get a gunshot going. Sworn like shit. I may have disagreed with Maul on his point, but now that it's war, I'm with Maul all the way. No doubt. It's over for the Breakfast Club. Yo, we at war, man. It's over for that shit.

We're not at war. We're not? No, man. Which I thought it was weird because I was on their side. I know. Now I'm on Mo's side. There's no war. I was trying to be at war against Mo.

No, there ain't no war. I just expressed my opinion. And I think, just keep watching. Just keep watching. Everything I says comes to fruition, though. Tell me when I've been wrong about anything It may take a couple months But we gonna see

So we gonna see The whole tell me when I was wrong thing Tell me when I was wrong about something I gotta really think about it for a minute Tell me But you know what I don't like Tell me You know what I don't like about the we'll see argument

That nigga The nigga that says we'll see Is always kinda deep and brilliant. Like, ooh. I'm not even going to say shit. I'm just going to let it happen. We haven't seen it yet. Bro, it's true. Just let it happen. Alright, but what I'm saying to you is

because Charlamagne's response and for those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, Maul said some things last week on our podcast. We're not going to spend too much time on this and then Charlamagne responded on his podcast and now we're responding on our podcast. We're not going to spend too much time on this. And then Charlamagne responded on his podcast. So now we're responding on our podcast. It's Podcast Wars. Mmm.

I don't think too many people heard his response, so not too many people listened to that podcast. Where's the gunshots at? I'm looking for it right now. Okay, but respond to what he's saying about numbers Because that's where he kind of got you out of the pain a little bit I'm not a numbers nigga He got in his corporate thug shit he did

I'm not a corporate thug For real when you go to the numbers Yeah and I 50 did it for years Yeah that nigga went to the numbers man I'm falling off where And them numbers was impressive the numbers yeah 50 did it for years yeah i'm falling off where yeah man but numbers ain't numbers ain't everything though you're going off impact i'm going off just the vibes man what the people saying the vibes you know i'm saying the energy you know i mean nobody ain't

really checking for that unless it's like some controversial guests up there. You know what I mean? Let's just be honest. I mean, salute. I don't know. Salute to them niggas though. You know what I'm saying? I'm just being honest. Like, you know what I mean?

I don't see nobody running around talking about, you know what I mean, that club. You know what I mean? Niggas don't even go to the club. Whatever more I say now, I'm on his side.

Yeah, niggas don't even go to the club. I'm going to fuck about a feck. I'm rolling ball, man. Sorry, I say now, I'm on his side. Yeah, niggas don't even go to the club. Charlamagne. I'm going to fuck about a feck. I'm rolling ball, man. Sorry. Sorry, bro. No, I didn't want to. I wasn't trying to, but I mean,

you backed me into a corner and I'm still that type of loyal. And don't get it twisted. I fuck with Charlamagne. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think he's, you know, a very important figure in this media game,

but, you know, I'm just expressing my opinions. All right, well, check this out, Charlamagneagne i'm getting you to fuck out the paint a little later in this podcast uh nigga not for your breakfast club shit i think you guys are doing amazing you guys are great but you're getting to fuck out the paint a little later in this podcast now but that's not what we're starting with you guys do not take precedence over uh did i say president Presidents over Did I say presidents? You did You sure? Yeah it's alright though Presidents Over

The Oscars Was that the song? That sounded like the Oscar song That's my little Oscar That's my little Oscar music Might have been off key That's my Oscar music Whatever

Did you guys watch the Oscars? I did I watched Kobe Yeah I watched Kobe Well Yeah, I watched Kobe. Well, I'm glad that you said that. I do want to ask about Kobe, but before we get into that, what were you guys' overall thoughts about the Oscars? Before y'all start, I'll tell you mine, and I'm not an Oscars guy.

You don't really fuck with Oscar like that? I was just sitting on the Oscars not too long ago. We knew what the Oscars were going to do this year. No, don't do that, Oscar like that? I was just shitting on the Oscars not too long ago. We knew what the Oscars were going to do this year. No, don't do that, Mo. Don't do that. We didn't know it was going to be heavily pro-female. We didn't know that?

With everything going on? Like every award show, especially when it has to do with Hollywood. We knew that. We knew that. But let's give a little more depth here. They always- And off the Oscar so white shit last year. But they always- We knew that they would attempt to do it. knew that they would attempt to do it.

We knew they would attempt to do it. I think they kind of got it right. Well shit they had to otherwise it would have been a major backlash

if they didn't get it right. They spent a lot of time they're very calculated over there. Yeah but that wouldn't have been the first time it would have been a lot of backlash.

Yeah but that for something like that they couldn't afford to be any negative. And ratings are dropping with all award shows. So they kind of have to be on their P's and Q's now. Are they? Yeah, the Grammys.

That was like one of the worst Grammys ratings. Man, I'm trying to centralize this conversation. You guys are all. All right. Bring it home. We're just starting. Kobe won. Y'all getting everything.

All right. So let me start with more than this Kobe thing. So it's funny that you start with the woman representation of the Me Too movement, and then you go to Kobe. What are your thoughts on that? Honestly, because that seemed to be like a big deal to some of the Kobe Bryant skeptics, is that, wow, during this whole beautiful demonstration of womanhood, you give the Oscar to the guy that was accused of rape.

Now, I personally don't feel that way because I just never believed Kobe Bryant was a rapist. But speak to it. Starting out heavy here. I was trying to start light. These guys said I was all over the place So we're gonna center it baby I think

I think that that You know That's over and done with When it comes to Kobe He ain't give a fuck About none of that shit right I mean he was never Convicted of rape

Being accused of rape And being convicted Is two different things You know what I'm saying And I think you know He's in the You know that is kind of That's always gonna be a chink

And that goes back To the conversation We had a few Episodes ago When I was like even if you're not found not guilty of something people will always label you as that well there are a few people that have done quite a bit to rehabilitate their their image kobe bryant being one of them true uh ray lewis being one of them and i ain't gonna lie y'all gotta back up off kobe b off Kobe Bryant. Ray Lewis get to be out here chilling. I mean, that's my argument. Ray Lewis allegedly caught a body.

I'm not saying nothing bad about Ray Lewis. We see what he does. See, look, we're still accusing him of doing that. See what I'm saying? He was never convicted of anything. He was never convicted of anything. This goes back to the conversation we had you can be found not guilty not convicted of anything just because

someone accused you or said you did it and you're the public eye i am aware i have never been accused or no not you i've never been charged with any domestic violent stuff but anytime i'm pulled over they certainly act like i got a chick in the trunk. That's what I'm saying. I should be laughing. That's kind of funny. That should be fucked up. Over your trunk. Nigga, no. It's a traffic stop.

Right. You just got to wear that fabric. Look at the Migos. The Migos are everywhere. Yeah. Dab are everywhere. Yeah. Dabbing everywhere as well. Now Erickson has to go find this clip and put it. They did Saturday Night Live?

Yes, they did. Did y'all see it? No, I didn't. That was with Charles Barkley, right? I was going to say Charles Barkley hosted it. I don't know. Yeah, Charles Barkley hosted it. Charles went with his people.

All right, so off of the Kobe shit, how did y'all think Jimmy Kimmel did? Great job He's good He's a good host That's another person That's changed their image Insanely Not to the degree

That they were accused of You know rape But he started on The fucking man show That could never come out In this era And now he's like Hosting Late Night

And the Oscars He was doing boner jokes For like the first 10 years of his career Great management Great PR people He changed his whole shit What was the other guy's name? and the Oscars. He was doing boner jokes for like the first 10 years of his career. Great management. Great PR people. He changed his whole shit. What was the other guy's name?

Adam Carolla? Mm-hmm. Did he just not... Yeah, what happened to him? Did he just not have the same manager? What happened to that? People don't drive Corollas anymore.

I was about to say. Corollas lost some thunder, period, as a whole. I thought some of the jokes were poorly written. Not poorly performed some of the jokes were poorly written. Not poorly performed by him, but just poorly written. But other than that, I thought he was great. I thought he himself was great.

What else did I perform? Boy, did I enjoy the set designs. That was a beautiful fucking stage. And it kept changing, too. And it was always beautiful. Every single time it stayed. Yeah. I mean,

I'll turn, I'm downstairs struggling trying to put a fucking set together in my damn house. They changing the shit with mad fucking diamonds every time. Boy,

was I jealous. Trying to install a curtain. Yeah. I'm having a heart attack trying to find the right color chairs. What else was really interesting? Well, Jordan Peele.

Do you want to get to that part? Yeah, for sure. An applause, I think, is necessary. Oh, the winners. Yeah, we should probably discuss the winners. Jordan Peele. Yes. Yeah, congrats to Jordan Peele, man.

Congrats to Jordan Peele. I'm really happy that he won, even though I didn't really love that movie, but, I mean, better than The Shape of Water all fucking night. Boy, were they killing me with that one. All that shit. Yeah, but I don't give a fuck about The Shape of Water. Yo, you want to, the Oscars always find a way to highlight a movie I've never heard of.

Yeah. And give it a bunch of awards. A movie. Like 10 movies. I'm like, what the fuck is this? I've never even heard of Shape of Water. Shape of Water is about a fish fucking a dude.

That's what I caught on the timeline of the synopsis of that movie. Yeah, I see why I never heard of this movie before. Yeah, it doesn't sound like it. That's not even on my type of radar. I wouldn't even have enough depth to understand that shit. Yeah, I'll never be that deep, bro. Pause. Well, anyway, off of

that movie, Jordan Peele won, Kobe Bryant won. What other black people won? That's it, bro. We got out too much. Slow down. You're doing too much. With other black people, that's it. We get two niggas a year, and that's it, bro.

We don't do more than that. Well, why do I feel like they did so great then? No, I thought... You know who I really thought was going to win? Honestly, I thought Mary J. Blige was going to win. Because I watched that on Netflix, and she did a great job in that movie. I really thought she was going to win that category. I honestly did.

All right, so let's get to the performances for a minute. Man, Mary. Listen. When Mary get a choir, and them niggas get to clapping, and then they drop the beat and start stomping. She end up right back in Yonkers. I was going to say, it should be at Yonkers Church at 3 p.mping. She ended up right back in Yonkers. I was going to say it should be a Yonkers church

at 3 p.m. Yeah, she get right back in Yonkers on a Sunday. Mary has done that shit at least 72 songs and I'm not going to lie to you. Every one of them, man, I black out.

I catch the Holy Ghost. She has a mist with the chorus. Yeah. So, shout out to Mary. Another observation. Oh, man. I hate to be the one to say this. Especially, I love Common as much as the next guy.

Yo. I've been preaching this for months, yo. Common is everywhere. I know where you're going to go with this. Listen. Just listen to me, man. Let me qualify. I love Common just as much as to me, man. Let me qualify. I love Common just as much as you guys, man.

We have got to get another positive black role model guy. We need another guy in the spot. It's too much Common when we need- He's got a monopoly on the fucking business. But it's not fair. It's not fair. Him and John Legend have taken the past five years. Yeah, but Common's everywhere, bro. Yeah, but that's kind of my problem. But I feel like

Common is getting a lot of the... He's getting a lot of the wave that Mos Def was going to get. Mos Def should definitely want to fight Common Sense. Yeah, but Mos is not even on American soil anymore. Well, he saw Mos fell back. He's like, check this out. I just saw most Instagram video that said, that guy on Instagram is not me.

That guy got two Y's in his name. Yeah, he's not in America though, right? Slow down for a minute. I don't know where most is, but listen to this. Crew goals, crew goals, crew goals, crew goals. I'm glad we're talking about this. Crew goals, crew goals, crew goals. I'm glad we're talking about this.

John Legend, Common Sense, and Dave Chappelle. I mean, Kanye's got married and left, but if I'm throwing him in there too, man, these guys have kept a tight-knit bond. Yeah, that era. This friendship has really helped each other. Chappelle Show Block Party, that whole cast always shows up together. They definitely are in a group chat together. They have to be.

They can't all not show up at the same time and everything. Is Mos Def in the group chat? I don't think Mos Def has a phone. Is Talib Kweli in the group chat? I think so. He definitely looks like he's on his phone a lot. I think he probably talks the most in that group chat. He tweets a lot. I would love to see how Common looked without all those friends.

What does that mean? Every time you see him, his skin is shining. He got the best goatee. He's not a speck of fucking even hair growth follicle on his fucking head. I'd like to see him with friends that are less successful. Common is everywhere, though. That shit is really crazy. The Grammys, he's there.

The Oscars, he's there. The AMAs, he's there. The All-Star Game, he's there. Common is everywhere. That shit is really crazy. The Grammys, he's there. The Oscars, he's there. The AMAs, he's there. The All-Star Game, he's there. He's everywhere. He's in a commercial. That shit is amazing. He's safe, but he's also respected. That's true.

So he kind of has both audiences there. We need another positive black man. And I'm not saying that to knock the positive black man that we have. We need another one, man. So go ahead. I'm not positive in black. He may look like Common. He looks too much like Common. You know what I mean? That wouldn't work. Yeah, like both y'all in a picture.

You're like uncommon. They'd be confused. We got it. Everyone, everyone chill out. You're non-common. Oh, wait. Before we even get in Before we even No we can finish the Grammys Let's finish Let's finish the Grammys

Are we gonna finish the Grammys? Let's go back I mean not the Grammys Okay SZA got snubbed If you ask me No The Oscars

Are we going back to that? The Oscars Yeah I'm still on that I really I enjoyed Tahari Tahari Am I saying her name right?

Taraji Taraji I enjoyed her dissing a homeboy on the red carpet Ryan Seacrest oh yeah yeah yeah that was a little spicy what she said

it was spicy what she said cause you know Ryan Seacrest has those those allegations pending oh he does yeah

he's a creeper too oh come on yeah man this guy's got C in his name fucking hiding spot pending. Oh, he does. He's a creeper too. Oh, come on. This guy's got C in his name. Fucking hiding spot. What's wrong with you? I'm just saying, hey, wait a minute now. I have a belief, and we'll get to this in a second when we start talking about Chris

Berman. A few of these niggas, you can tell it's creeps, man. Yeah, that's true. Ryan Seacrest is a little creepish. But anyway, those are the charges he has, allegations he has. So Shorty, he asked her something and she said, the universe has a way of taking care of good people. And then she gave him like a little chin tap with her hand.

Yeah, that happened. And then, just when we thought that was nothing, I need to get that Instagram noise on the soundboard, but our next interview, they said, how are you? And she said, I'm great now that I'm here with you.

I hope she knows some evidence that we don't know. Because I don't want everyone that just gets accused of shit to all of a sudden be guilty and talk to that way why not that would be hilarious wait till it happens to you

it's coming you're going to be at that yeah what the fuck are you talking about in the new me too generation oh no no no I don't leave my room

shit that don't matter no no no that's where they get you the worst what do y'all think about what do y'all are y'all tired of

Tiffany Haddish in that white dress? Nah, go ahead. I think it's cool. I was always taught, if you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all. Well, that can't work on this podcast.

Here's my other question. Do you guys think that, are you guys starting to see a small group of people turn on Tiffany Haddish? Nah, I haven't seen that yet. Turn on her? No, I think she just met Oprah.

I think she supported her. Actually, up until today, I did not. But today, I saw some backlash. Oh, yeah? What they saying? I've been seeing... I thought she was supporting... I thought people were heavily supporting her.

Nah, there's a little bit happening. I mean, very early stages. Just remember, I said it here. Well, when you're successful, people are going to come at you. When everybody loves you, people are going to start hating you. That's the way it works. Thank you, Parks.

You're welcome. Exactly. Keep my soundtrack. Good job you did there, buddy. What else happened at the Oscars that we need to talk about? I think that was about it. Does everyone in Get Out now have, like, does Lil Rel get credit for that, too? Or was it just the screenplay?

I think it's just the screenplay. I think it was the Oscar of the year. I think it's, like, the Grammys. Okay. So he doesn't get a plaque. He probably gets a little certificate, like the Grammys, you know, a little paper. One last thing about the Oscars. Why is Joey Lawrence still fine?

Excuse me? What did you just say? I'm confused too. You said what? Joey Lawrence is what? Is still fine. Is Joey Lawrence a guy? No.

Oh, who's Joey Lawrence? Jennifer Lawrence. Who is Joey? Oh, Jennifer Lawrence who's Joey Lawrence? Jennifer Lawrence. Who is Joey? Oh, Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah. I'm still thinking Jennifer Lawrence. Fan, fan, fan. I was a little confused.

Listen, listen. Yo, y'all been getting carried away lately, man. You said Joey Lawrence. It's still fine. I'm not talking about fucking Joey Lawrence. We don't know. That's why I said, excuse me. I'm talking about Jennifer Lawrence.

That's why I said, excuse me. What did you just say? Not Joe. Why am I thinking that her name is Joe? Were they in Lawrence. That's why I said, excuse me. What did you just say? Not Joe. Why am I thinking that her name is Joe? Were they in the same show or something? No, he's a narcissist. Whatever. That's true.

Why is Jennifer Lawrence still fine? I don't know. Money. Yeah, money will keep you looking fine for a while. She looks exactly the same. There were some 70-year-old women that still look good. I was like, how is fucking- Oh, you got to stop looking at Meryl Streep.

You are a pervert. She look aight, though. She look aight, you know what I'm saying? Y'all are nasty. One of them old actresses look aight for 80. When Jennifer Lawrence got up there... I think she tricked, too. I think Meryl Streep be tricking.

I'm exiting this conversation. I'm definitely not joining you guys. You guys will never make it in Hollywood. Anyways, you were saying about Joey Lawrence? Jennifer Lawrence, what I was thinking about when she got- Isn't Joey Lawrence like a Backstreet Boy or NSYNC? I think so. That's why I was so fucking confused.

Like, excuse me? Wait a minute. What are we talking about right now? Because Joey Lawrence that I remember, I think is NSYNC, right? Yeah, one of the Backstreet Boys. Yeah, I'm just like, what is Joey Lawrence? A new kid on the block, perhaps? Yeah, he's one of those groups.

Now I remember who Joey Lawrence is. He's a Backstreet Boy, right? No. Or NSYNC? Joey Lawrence was, wasn't he the brother from Blossom? Oh, yeah. Joey Lawrence was on one of those shows. Maybe Silver Spoons or some shit. Because I bought his single by mistake.

You thought it was Jennifer? Listen, Jennifer Lawrence strutting on stage being fine still made me wanted to ask y'all who some of y'all favorite sitcom crushes were. Because she was one of mine. What sitcom she was on? Married With Children. Kelly Bundy. Oh, no, that wasn't Jennifer Lawrence.

Who the fuck is Jennifer Lawrence? Jennifer Lawrence was in The Hulk, man. Do we have Sleepy Love? I don't even know who the fuck we're talking about. Hey, St. Vaughn. Who the fuck is Jennifer Lawrence? Oh, yeah. Who the fuck is Jennifer Lawrence?

Jennifer Lawrence is from The Hunger Games. Yo, first of all. Yes, Jennifer Lawrence. She was's from The Hunger Games Yo first of all And some other shit Yes Jennifer Lawrence She was not She was not on the fucking Jennifer Lawrence was in a sitcom She wasn't in no sitcom

She wasn't in no Bundy show Wikipedia No no that was wrong She wasn't on the Marry with Children No that was wrong I just wanted to beat Kelly That was Christina Applegate

Yeah Christina Applegate Who was fine She was fine too She was fine She was in Playboy Remember back when Playboy Used to be a thing No

Like when the celebrity Used to get naked in the magazine? Oh, of course. Duh. Yeah. It was like a big deal. It was like, oh, shit, Christina Applegate. Now it's just Instagram. Now to get naked in your phone for free.

I have to go find out who Jennifer Lawrence is now. You just saw who Jennifer Lawrence is from the 100 years. But where do I know her from? She was in, damn, she was in bad shit. She'd been fine forever. Yeah, but not that long. She's probably 29. No, Jennifer Lawrence is older than that. Is she?

Nah, she's not older than 29. She's not much older. Maybe I'm just thinking that she was Kelly Bundy. I think you were. Wait, nah, Jennifer Lawrence, yeah, we're the same age. 27. Yeah. Jennifer Lawrence is not 27. I'm with Joe. Wait. I don't even believe you're 27. You talking about Jennifer Lawrence. Alright, I don't care about Jennifer Lawrence. not 27. I'm with Joe. I don't even believe you're 27. You talking about Jennifer Lawrence. All right.

I don't care about Jennifer Lawrence. Maul. Alyssa Milano, though. That's another one. Oh, my God. Yes. She might still be fine. Lisa Turtle was a crushing line.

Yeah, hell yeah. I was a Lisa Turtle guy. What was the other girl from Saved by the Bell that was fine, too? I don't know the real names. All of them. Yeah. True. What was the other girl From Saved by the Bell That was fine too I don't know the real names All of them Yeah True Jen Kelly

Kelly Yeah Kelly was fine Jesse Did you say Lisa Turtle Who was I about to say I don't know What's your family The family matters girl

That passed away No I hated Laura There was another girl Yeah the neighbor that died Oh Yeah Oh yeah Urkel's girl Yeah I forgot Laura There was another girl? Yeah the neighbor that died Oh Yeah Oh yeah Urkel's girl

Yeah I forgot Yeah she was fine She was fine So Maul What? Where's this song at? I had a song queued up To play for you

Oh man we moved it Let me find it So A song? Yeah Oh boy I hate when songs are played That's the second song

First at CNN To pop the beef off. There we go. This is such an odd song to play and then ask me a question. I'm not asking you shit. Cash Doll said hi. Oh, yeah. Y'all thought I forgot? I did forget.

Y'all thought I forgot that Cash Doll said hi to Maul? She said hi to Maul. She said hi to Maul. Get the fuck out of here, Joe. She said hi to Maul. That's a big deal. That's because the internet is crazy, man. I asked people not to. After Rory said to go do that, I politely asked people not

to do that. And what do you think they did? They did the exact opposite of what I asked. You got the plug. Did the conversation end just there? Of course it did. I'm not no creep. I'm not going to jump in no DMs. I believe you.

You can cut that off now, Joe. Thank you. Maybe you and her could remix that or something. But this is what I was disappointed in. I didn't really like your high back. What would you have liked? It was just dry. There was no emojis.

Y'all wanted me to go all the way gay? That's what y'all wanted me to do? Send a kissy emoji? Yeah, the little huggy face? Huggy. What's the wildest emoji combination y'all ever said? The wildest combination? Y'all, why y'all always act like y'all don't

understand anything the wildest combination of emojis i i've never seen nothing more than the kissy face like i've never gotten into like the too many you never sent the eggplant emoji in your life never okay never not one time i sent my real eggplant that is my eggplant emoji fam all right my nigga i got the headphones on oh yeah why you can't ask questions like that's the new drop for when y'all just start saying flagrant shit is that really a meat pause see i'm saying then when i say it's over for that club, y'all turn on me. This is what's going on, man.

See what I'm saying? What? They had to ask the tough questions. That's a tough question? Yes. That's a question that should never be asked. I mean, I would have told Angel to ask it. Is that really your meat?

Yo, let me explain something to y'all, man. It's a certain question that I'm never going to ask as a man. What if you're at the Brazilian steakhouse? I don't even... Pause. I don't even eat meat. But I'm not going to ask a man, is that really his meat? That's crazy.

Listen, bro. That is insane. Why do you have that up there, man? We can't use that. Take that off of there. Is that really a meat pause? I don't care about the pause. That overrides any pause.

That's going to override the pause. I'm sorry. You can't pause. Shout out to Envy. He should have just paused. He should have just not asked that. Yeah, before the question, you paused. I would never. Oh, my God god that's insane top off well that was a really all right all right dj caled new song

top off that's what i'm talking about not any other top off. Thanks for the clarification. Let me tell y'all something. Let me hear y'all perspective on this song. All right, this is my perspective. I'll go last. Khaled likes Future and Hov collaborations more than me. Yeah. I think more than anybody. Yeah.

I don't think you're alone in that. Like, all right. All right, this is going to be weird, so follow me. I don't like Future and hove collabs and i don't like hove and beyonce collabs really i didn't want to be the one to say but i do like i do like future and beyonce yeah sure do they collab often? I like the sound. I like I Got the Keys, though. I like that as well. Yeah, I like that record.

I like that record, too, but I understand the flack that Hov caught because of it. But Future sounded okay on I Got the Keys. Right. Let's just call a spade a spade. Future sounds like pure shit on this record. You know what it is? I'm just tired of that cadence. Well, that was my next point I was going to.

Yeah, I think that's more so what it is. That cadence and that style of hook from Future, I'm over it. Yeah, and I like Future as an artist, but I don't like that cadence no more. I don't particularly love Jay on trap beats either, if we're going to be completely transparent. I enjoyed his verse. I really want to know if Jay-Z and Beyonce heard the hook prior or just got on the beat and then heard the final song. I can't imagine Hov or Beyonce jumping on that record

where it's just that beat and Future doing that hook. I don't see it. But my only problem with the song, I think, it's funny because my only problem with the song, I think, it's funny because my only problem with the song really is Future until I hear Future coming off Beyonce. Right. Oh, and you like that transition better? Much better. And I don't like how they chopped up.

The hook is not dope enough for them to chop it up the way they did. What is the, how does the fucking hook go? How does it go? I take the what? The roof off the knee back. Top of the knee back. And then I took the top of my knee back. I took the top of a...

No. No. No. No and no. Sorry. That don't make me a hater because somehow I think I still kind of like the song because Beyonce made me. Well, you had a tweet that I agreed with 100%.

If Khaled would have utilized T-Pain on that record, it would be a completely different sound to me. I agree. I agree, but I do understand why he's not. Of course. I mean, Khaled's style for a majority of all his albums is just really finding the hottest people

and making them collab which has been successful for him so I see why you're not changing something that's continuing to work for the past what is he on

his 15th album yeah but I don't give him that pass because I do believe that Khaled's a great A&R of course and we've seen him combine artists

that don't necessarily go together and get a great record. So I don't really want to hear T-Pain is cold or T-Pain is older or T-Pain is... You and T-Pain damn near bat a thousand from the field. That's true. But here's my thing to that point. You have

Jay-Z and Beyonce already on the record. You don't need to sit there and be like, what's going to be the wow factor? You have that. Let's try to make the best record we can. I'm going to go out on a limb. I would rather hear a Jay and Beyonce record produced

by Fat Joe before DJ Khaled. Wait, Khaled? Wait, are you saying Wait, you're not... Are you saying just executive producers to put together? Traditional producers.

That's not out on a limb. I would rather hit... A lot of people... Fat Joe's an amazing fucking... No, no, no. We know that. But the masses would never put Fat Joe in the studio with Jay and Beyonce.

Well, they couldn't do that for 10 years because of other reasons. Yeah, but that's up to my now. All all right do we believe that there's a short list of artists that that can even be eligible to feature on a track featuring hobe and and uh beyonce right super short yes so is t-pain even on that list uh maybe not in this year unfortunately well i don't know why why he wouldn't be though t-pain has done records with just about everybody. Yeah, he's a legend. He's great.

Is there still Jay-Z, T-Pain tension? That's still Beyonce, though. That was a tension? I don't remember. I don't think Jay-Z, the DOA. I don't think anybody has tension with Jay anymore. Once him and Nas are toasting. The guy on the couch does.

No, I don't. Once Nas and Jay are toasting, I think all Jay beefs are dead after that. Once he toasted with Fat Joe and Jim Jones you talking about the guy on the couch does let me tell you something I've spent about the past two days

and I'll maybe spend the next five days trying to come up with the perfect structure to text Hove and ask for tickets to this concert that they're doing the On The Run 2 tour

you know sometimes the vibe comes off wrong via text and you don't want to be that guy the first thing you say in a long time is yo can I get some tickets yeah I mean we don't really talk like that so I mean I don't want to I'm not discussing the cowboys but I mean, we don't really talk like that. So I mean, I don't want to. Y'all not discussing the Cowboys on a Tuesday?

Yeah, but I mean, it's not really me asking for me. I'm not really a concert guy. It's for Sin, of course. You know Sin wants to go see Jay and Beyonce. Have Sin ask. Sin will have. I have a question. I'd like to know what a psychiatrist would say.

And I'm not saying it's a negative way. A psychiatrist would say about Beyonce and how much she works. They clearly don't need the money. She just came, like, these two people work. How do you know what they need? This is true. All right.

I'm going to assume that Jay-Z and Beyonce are not in need of money. I think you're safe in that assumption. Yeah, but she's like my age. She just wants to work. No, I know, but you can't name too many people. What type of questions are we asking here? Anybody worry about Beyonce's work habits?

What do you mean? Yeah, I am. You think she's working too much? I think she needs a break. Eh. You know what it's like to put a tour on as Beyonce? No. No, but I know it's like to put a tour on.

That's some time. That's not just let's go out with a microphone. I don't know about that, but I did a back-to-back in Middle East one time. And boy, I tell you, that was rough. A back-to-back in Middle East is crazy. That's a crazy venue to do a back-to-back. I did two shows at SOBs and was out of breath. Yeah, those would be rough nights.

So, I mean, maybe something to what Rory's saying. I think it's amazing and I think that's what makes her the greatest performer alive, but it's insane

how much that woman works. I can't, but when they announced this, I was like, what the fuck? That's why she's being so good. Of course, yeah.

Her work ethic. But I'm worried. She'll be fine. She'll be fine. She's built for it. She is. What, man? All right, so did anybody see who Chance said his favorite rapper was?

Chance the rapper? Who's his favorite rapper, man? Monique? Beyonce. All right, Chance, last week I wasn't last week I wasn't on the Chance you gotta cut it out

I'm just telling you what niggas are saying in the streets now I'm on the Chance you gotta cut it out Chance is saying Beyonce's favorite rapper we get it

okay Chance I do wanna go to this tour though should we cause since we always pin women together do we like Rihanna's bars on the N.E.R.D. project or Beyonce's bars? Let's be misogynistic and pin these two amazing women together.

I like the thought of Rihanna rapping more, I think. I think they both did their thing. Yeah, they did. I don't like the fact that, not I don't like, but I notice that Khaled often gives them the same type of bop, so it's normally the same type of flow from Beyonce.

Yeah. On a Khaled beat. Well, she's only done what? Shining was the only other record that she's been on for Khaled? Or am I missing one? That was enough. That's enough, yeah.

I liked Shining. I liked Shining a lot. And I heard that bop from her and Jay at some point there might be one on a DJ album I could just hear

when Beyonce is doing her I'm still a hood chick from Houston flow oh yeah and I like it yeah she gotta get that off and I like it but

I wanna hear like Rhea's just she just flows different and this is a rap conversation Beehive this is a rap conversation do not kill me because Beyonce's not my favorite Do not kill me because Beyonce's not my favorite. Don't kill me because Beyonce's

not my favorite rapper. I'm part of the Beehive, so chill. Sam converted you. Absolutely. Yeah, I would probably take Rihanna as a rapper. Yeah, she got a little sassy. Ask me a question and just don't even give a fuck. Leave me out of that.

I'm a little nervous. let me get off of this I see what's going on here Alright enough of that It's crazy I'd rather talk about Hellrell than Beyonce I'd feel safer Hellrell called me a sucker

I mean Stop him when he stopped Telling the truth You called him ugly I think it's fair Come on hell Come on Come on hell

Come on hell He said come on hell, hell. Come on. Come on, hell. Come on, hell. He said, come on, hell. Come on, hell. Come on, hell. Wait, did he announce that his jewelry was real before he called you a sucker? I don't think that's fair for Hellrell to be able to call me a sucker.

If his jewelry wasn't fake? That's how he started his videos. Yo, jewelry, all real. So this is what I'm talking about today. The whole world is talking about Hellrell getting fucking dressed by the fucking dressing and I'm the sucker? Listen, man.

He mad at me and not the niggas that fucking washed him in front of his fucking family and friends. I'm sure he's mad at them too. Well, address your anger that way, nigga. What the fuck is you talking to me for? Address your anger. Address the nigga that fucking folded you

under that fucking table. Fuck. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway. That's my Hellrell address. Hellrell don't think he's fucking Come on. You think Hellrell think he's Joey Lawrence? I'm just telling you that was his response to you.

I was wrong. I hope everyone has heard what you said. It's a joke! I hope everyone has heard what you said. It's a joke. I take your jokes. Yo, y'all get mad uncomfortable with jokes. Anyway. Y'all get mad uncomfortable with jokes. All right, let's see what else is going on here.

I don't care about... Ooh. All right, so let's get into Tory, man. Did y'all hear the Tory Lanez album? I did. I did. Listened to it a couple times. Did you see the Tory Lanez Breakfast Club interview?

I saw the clips. A majority of it. I thought I was going to have to it a couple times. Did you see the Tory Lanez Breakfast Club interview? I saw the clips. A majority of it. I thought I was going to have to fire off at Tory, man. I thought he let Charlamagne put him in the spot, but he didn't. He didn't man me at the round of applause. He didn't. He did well. He moved well in a room full of vultures.

I enjoyed the interview. I got some information from it. I didn't know he was writing for as many people as he said he was writing for, but that's not the important part. The important part is, that was a slick little move there, Charlamagne. Uncle Charla.

That was a really slick move. Uncle Lenny. And it's a move I've noticed of his. It's an old school move. So I don't even talk about it too much. But it's only a move that an old school nigga like him going to try to pull. The move where you, you know, where you say something that someone said, but the context is a lot different. Or it's half of the conversation.

Because be clear, I did ask if it was quiet for Tori. But that is how I start a lot of conversations here. And I also answered it. Well, with my answer, my opinion anyway. And Uncle Charlotte failed to put that in there when he was talking to Tori. That doesn't produce good content. He didn't say to Tori,

Hey, on the joe button podcast joe button asked his friends is it quiet for you like he normally does but then they all agreed that it wasn't yeah i think we all said no yeah we did all say no and then we moved on to the next topic right yeah but so then you don't get a clip like that if you ask it that way you might get a boy you might get a better clip if you stand on your own fucking nuts and you say hey is it safe to say or is it safe for some to assume that it may have been quiet for you because charlamagne ain't gonna run from a hard question that's true he ain't gotta put my name in that fucking question i have nothing to do with that interview

well you have maul on your podcast and they they got beef, so he was just... No, no. That's Maul and their beef. I'm not going to jump in until Charlamagne starts to win. Then I jump in the beef. Okay. Until then, I mean... I don't have beef with no fucking Charlamagne, man. Why y'all keep trying to make that...

Well, I'm just saying, y'all own static. That wasn't my static, but now Charlamagne going to pull that fuck shit, so now I got to bring the static to Uncle Charla Y'all don't understand man They need We that sauce They got spaghetti Over there with no sauce

So they gotta mention Our name man That's not true That is true That interview was already saucy Okay They didn't need extra sauce Okay

If you say so That's a whole lot of ragu I just seen a lot of people Talking about Joe Button this The podcast this this, and this, that. And I could give you reasons to hate on him. I'm just telling you what sauce is sauce, man. Let's go bring the smoke down the dial to Peter Rosenberg for a minute.

You sit right there, Charlamagne. Are we going to skip over Tory's whole album? Oh, shit. That's not right. See? Tory's album. Well, let me tell you what I thought when I sat and listened to Tori's album. And y'all know, I was waiting for quite some time.

Like, I was anxiously awaiting this album. So the album drops and it starts with a skit. Boy, am I angry. Boy, am I fucking big mad. I do like that thing the kids do. Putting big in front of... Big mad. Big mad is funny.

Yeah, big mad is funny. Why is that so funny? I don't know. Yeah. If you call someone big mad, they're going to get bigger mad. I'd be tight if someone called me big mad. But why? Don't call me big mad.

It doesn't sound like proper English, but it's still funny. Big mad. Big mad is funny. What else did I want to ask? Big Mad sounds like the neighborhood bully, like, you know, 90s movie. Big Mad's coming. Big Mad come through.

Yeah. What else did I want to ask y'all about slang? Why are the cops 12? I don't know that one. I don't know. They 12, man. They just 12 they 12 somebody has to know why they're why are they the fuzz i don't know no i knew that one the fuzz has been i knew that one i'm too old and my memory's bad now but i did used to know 12 isn't that fun though no i think i used to know why they called

them 12 too but i don't remember now so so I was just going to come ask Maul. Because usually the numbers, maybe it's something over the speaker. V12, C12, I put the whole thing. Chill, he smoked it. No, he did. Some people beef about how Hov sounds over those types of beats. I love it. I think it's fine. I love that bounce.

I love that bop. But I'm biased. And the fact that Hov is his age still fucking, and I'm still rushing to hear him. Oh, of course. I love that bop. And the fact that Hove is his age and I'm still rushing to hear him. Of course. Yeah, it's great. Did that top-off beat annoy anybody? I didn't love it.

I guess that's the difference. I want to hear you over dope trap beats. If you're going to do trap beats. I get what you're saying. Like exceptional trap beats. I was nervous. Before Hove came, I was very nervous. I will say that.

Future did sound like when you put the cat in the toilet for too long. For too long? For too long. When you put a cat in the toilet for five seconds, it's okay. It's fine, yeah. But if you leave it in there for 30 seconds, it's like way too long. Thank God Raven can't talk. And we are back.

Shout out to cats. We love cats and PETA and animals. Who approved future sounding like that? Is the point of what I'm saying. I'm sure that Jay and Beyonce had some say in it. I don't think they're just letting that fly without approval. Definitely not just letting that fly. This is also my beef with that song.

That... Alright, I don't want to be negative Nancy here. Yes, you do. Is that... Is that hook dated some? I mean, anything with that cadence is going to sound dated. It's the same cadence. We heard that cadence for five, four years now.

Khaled has already, he's killed us. He's won already with that. I'm just sick of that cadence. I love Future. I think he's dope. But that cadence, you've got to be more creative. Well, he's proved that he has been on albums, that he can do other cadences. Yeah, that's why I get it.

But I just, that cadence, I hate that cadence. The repetitive, I'm cool. Well, what I'm saying is this. To make sure I wasn't being a negative Nancy, I went out and got in my car and tried to imagine me taking the top off of the Maybach. It didn't seem like the greatest experience. I didn't see. I didn't get why that was worth repeating

a bunch. I took the top off the Maybach. I took the top off the Maybach. I took the top off the Maybach. I did it. I took the top of my May. I was looking at the roof the mansion I'll take the top of my mansion I was looking at the roof like I like my roof When did you decide to walk outside and get in your car?

Because I don't Maybe I don't get some things Gotta give some things the car test Oh yeah let's get into the car test Hold up let's get off of Cali for two seconds I'm gonna skip Tori Just for the rest of the podcast. All right, Tory.

Oh, yeah, so Tory starts with a skit. Why, I don't know. I guess he wanted to put the skits to bed for once and for all. One last run. Yeah. And then I got through the first half of the album, and it was a lot of rapping. And I'm not here for Tory's rapping ability.

Same. He can rap. Yeah. But that's not particularly what I go to Tory for. So I was a little disappointed. Not enough at that juncture of the album. Not enough to call it bad, though, because... No, it's a good album.

Just because it's not for me so far. And I think that's kind of the box that tory has painted himself in kind of you know when you when you rap and you put out a bunch of rap projects and now you put out a bunch of singing projects and now you gotta put out your mixtapes where you're covering shit and now the fans want an album all original shit like you've just worked yourself into a position where you're not going to be able to please everybody we saw drake go through not too long ago either uh so that's where he is in the second half of the album i thought he warmed up to to what I was looking for from him and then I was confused at the end of the album I didn't know what to call it I didn't know if it was I didn't

know if it was hot or nah it was just or so then so then I said damn you know what like it's cool with the album just being good yeah there's nothing wrong with that i mean good yeah but it's much more fun when you take good out of the metric system when you could just say it's hot or nah yo that shit is literally fire or it's trash my nigga there's no in between it makes it way more fun gets tempers riled up feelings involved i walked away from tory's album saying this is a good album this is a good sophomore effort he's uh he's projected to do around 50 grand 50 000 which puts him around the same thing that he did the first time around so that makes him a very consistent artist so then when i when i got to thinking about how we don't

applaud just good albums we really don't applaud consistency either. Hip-hop has never done that. Not true. Not true. Maybe with one or two artists. When Hov told us exactly how many summers he was dominant, we were all like,

hmm. He's right. That's a lot of fucking summers. Like, there's a few niggas who were consistent and we appreciate it from today or recently. It's a thing of the past, so we don't care. But I thought of it, especially in this Tory instance, because of our Bryson and Tory argument we had two years ago that I'd like us to revisit now, now that they both have two bodies of work, two projects. Is it safe to say that that is no longer an argument? Or is it still an argument? I think it's still an argument.

It is not an argument. I think talent-wise, I would go with Tory now, as far as talent. Because it was a terrible debate, because we didn't even know really what we was debating. And there wasn't enough music from either. Yeah, I think Tory is super talented.

It's just something, it's a disconnect somewhere. So what I think it is, and I'm not going to say Bryson is the most original artist, but I think where Tory falls is that...

Are you going to say anything like Bryson is the most original artist? I ain't going to preface your shit with I'm not going to say he's the... No, you're not going to say that? I ain't gonna preface your shit with I'm not gonna say he's the... No, you're not gonna say that. I don't think Tory's found his exact identity.

I think he's talented at a lot of bunch of different things that a lot of other artists can do as well. And he's just kind of in the mix in this tornado of a bunch of different styles. And while I did really enjoy the album, and this is coming from someone that's been on record on this podcast a lot

saying that they weren't the biggest Tory fan, I enjoyed this whole project. I listened to it more than once which I don't even do with most new albums these days. Tory is super talented, man. OD talented. He's super, super talented. I just don't...

And I think this... His albums though are just not... From top to bottom, they just don't... You know what I mean? It's not... I don't know. It's just...

I don't know. But if we, you know, I don't know. I mean, but if we're going by bodies of work, like you, you said, Joe, I would, I mean,

Bryson clearly has better bodies of work. If we're going by just, I mean, I think Trap Soul is better than either of Tory's projects. I do too, but I think his sophomore effort was not of, to par. It wasn't bad.

It was, I mean, only because Trap Soul was so crazy. No. You don't think Trap Soul was crazy? No bad it was i mean only because trap soul was so crazy no you don't think trap soul was crazy no it was crazy but that's not why his second album wasn't so well received i think it was too much too many records on the second album i think there was too many on tories as well yeah but i say that way too many i say that with everyone's shit so but now with this whole you know streaming shit now we know we already know we all love bryson so we gave bryson the

super pass and tried to sweep that second album under the rug, even though it eventually grew on me, and I like it now. Yeah. It's not bad. I keep telling you, I just think Bryson was, I don't think he was ready for that success of that first album. Well, these new niggas that want fame and success but won't show their fucking face. Bryson went, he went a good four years without wanting to show his face. What do you want me to do with you my nigga yeah I mean

in this climate yeah you kind of have to you have to show us your face I do like artists still though that kind of just give us music and leave us alone

you know Tory feels some type of way about the size of his head paws and forehead paws and fucking hair he says it in songs right

still he's sitting there on the fucking front of the album cover with balloons around him. You got to do what you got to do. Would that make his head look smaller? You got to do what you got to do. It's funny. Put balloons around yourself and just do what you got to do.

As an artist, and that's one of the things I'll just always, you know, you have to do what you have to do what you have to do as an artist. Before you guys got here, Parks and I was talking about that Royce record that leaked that I won't expound on too much because he probably don't want us to talk about the record leaking. But you got to do what you got to do.

You got to do what you got to do as an artist. Like your shit leak. It's out now. At no point in the entertainment business can you stop doing what you have to do. It sounds like the simplest advice. But at no point can you stop. Some of these new niggas think they can stop.

Some of these new niggas feel a little bit entitled. So I ain't gonna lie, I felt a little way when Bryson was trying to do interviews without showing his face. I felt a way when he called Everyday Struggle and said, yo, can I phone in? Nigga, if you don't get the fuck off of this phone, get off my phone.

Not my phone, but get off somebody's phone. Get off somebody's phone. If Deska had a long speaker. You got to get off somebody's phone with that shit. No, but I think Tory took a step in the right direction with his sophomore release, and I don't think Bryson took a huge step forward with his sophomore release. I'm missing the ballad from tori the uh the on this album the proud family uh the what's the other one i love on chicks tape three with ed sharon that

say it i don't not say it i don't remember the name but yeah tori can hit him hit one of them little auto-tune ballads out the park i like that fab song a lot yeah it was dope i like the uh shit that he did over the arab-Rab beat that I think we had for Rage at one point. The outro? Yeah. Yeah. But overall, solid effort from Tory, man. No problem. Shout out to him.

Pieces with 50. It was good to hear someone do some storytelling again. And I liked how they mixed it differently, too, to really make you stop. Because if you listen to the album straight through once it gets to pieces with 50 it doesn't sound the same

it made me listen more I think I don't know if that's what they were trying to do but it worked that way for me but it was good to hear storytelling save that shit

for Ill Mind Podcast all that mixing and shit Parks what input do you think they used don't get Parks excited boner time. That's why the volume is down. You can't ask questions like that.

You can't ask questions like that, Joe. All right. I'm sorry, Rory. All right. So I will confess. This is the time that I will confess. Now, there's been bars and music where, you know, what did Drake say? Fucking, I never died when Pac died, but I will confess now there's been bars and music where you know what did what did Drake say fucking I never died when Pac died but I will win you know what was the line who was he gonna die cry about oh oh that's that's

respectable I'm gonna cry I'm gonna cry yeah you should cry when hope passes knock on wood I was six when Pac died can't say I cried but did somebody else say a line like that too probably oh well when drake said it everybody started talking about who they would cry for when they died and shit so here's my confession when word got out when tmz put that report out about rick ross i was much sadder than i ever anticipated i'll'll be honest with you. I was distraught. Yeah, listen, man. I was a mess. Listen, man, I'm going to keep it real. Yes, keep it real.

Like, I... For real. Like, no, seriously, like, that shit really, like, because I started getting text messages that he had actually passed. And I wasn't believing the shit. I was, like, I wasn't responding. But I really sat down for a minute and really thought about it like if that was really true

like that that would have fucked me up honestly like Ross is one of my favorite artists so for that to happen if it would have happened God thank God it didn't

like I was fucked up just the thought of it was fucking me up like nah this can't be happening like nah not Ross yeah

that's what was happening that was happening to me and then I was fucking surprised. Damn, I really love this guy. Yeah, I never thought I would feel this way about Ross. That's how I felt. That's exactly how I felt. I threw on Santorini grease.

Yeah, like that shit really sucked me up, man. I was so corny once it found out that he was okay and reported. I went on IG Live and did a whole Raw set for an hour and a half to celebrate that he was okay. Let me tell you how corny I am. So, TMZ's putting out all these reports. The group chat is all sad.

I throw on Santorini Grease. Throw on Truth or Truth. Not Truth or Truth, but you know, whatever. Tears of Joy. We bought that shit. But yeah, throw on Tears of Joy. Tears of Joy.

I threw on all the you know Moody Ross records and Michael Paul comes in the kitchen he's like damn a Ross set already

I looked at Michael Paul while the kitchen lights were very dim I said energy we need to will him to life real shit man I said that

yeah I said it hey laugh all you want no I'm not I was on IG live Well shit man I said that Yeah I said it Hey Laugh all you want No I'm not I was on IG live I believe that When you are on

Your last leg With nothing None of your internal organs Doing it And keeping you alive Your will Is going to be What does it for you

And energy So yeah I was bodying my raw set when i thought he was dying yeah man yeah that shit was crazy i never thought that that would affect just the thought of that like really like i was really fucked up well we need to give ross the roses now while he can smell them no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no well that's the part that i really That I really got A good kick out of When that nigga posted

That little watching Bracelet On his Instagram And everybody went And took their prayers back How you take your prayers back Take your prayers back Yo

I thought I didn't believe it Until I went And actually read The comments Oh wait They were in the comments Yes

Like materialistic things aren't everything. You think you could thank us for the well wishes now that you're back to life? And then I was just going to leave it alone, but then I seen Rocky Thunder hit him with some bars. I was like, damn. This is a growing sentiment out there in the universe. Yeah.

Well, Rocky said it. So then something, I don't know. She hit him with some bars. I don't know she hit him with some bars I don't know who wrote them them thunderous bars but people were really mad

at Russ for posting his watch and bracelet so then that made me want to ask people well why do you pray like what do we pray for exactly

do we pray to get something in return or to see some type of tangible proof that our prayers work like I don't know Anthony Jeselnik has a very funny joke about that To get something in return or to see some type of tangible proof that our prayers work.

I don't know. Anthony Jeselnik has a very funny joke about that. The people that just tweet the shit. All you're saying is, don't forget about me, guys. When you're tweeting out, like, oh, prayers for Rick Ross. Hope he makes it. All you're saying is, yo, everyone look at me to show that I care about Rick Ross. You can quietly give your prayers and not post them. You can't do anything quietly now.

Why? Because you got a kid? That was funny. I went back and listened to some of the old podcasts. You had a few good jokes that we overlooked, man. It happens a lot. That happens a lot. I don't know if it happens a lot, but it happens. What are you going to do?

So, Ross... Well, he didn't die, but we still need to get into his health. His health. Do we even know what happened? Well, we know he has had a lot of seizures in the past. That's been reported and out of his mouth. I thought that he was like getting ready, losing a lot of weight and all that shit. Which means what? You would think that he's getting healthy

Oh please Big Pun just lost 100 pounds And was trying to live When he went Ironic line in rap I think ODB Was trying to live

When he went too I can name a few people That was trying to live When they went I want money like Cosby Who wouldn't? There's been a lot of Ironic rap lines

That I'd take back Yeah if Savon was real ill We could do a whole podcast About it If he went and did some research. He just comes in here and brings some fucking nachos. Thinks his job is complete. Nachos are great.

I'm very grateful for the nachos. Let's not slander nachos. Savon got his phone in his hand where he could take the notes, but no, he wants to also have a notepad and pen. Let's get back to Ross. One of the worst things about jail is

not being able to see your loved ones that, you know, then you gotta pray that you're able to see them. So then I felt bad for Meek. Then I felt bad that Meek was in jail while all this was happening, and he wasn't really able to, I mean, do what he had to do. The same way I'm sure Tax feels a way about not being able to see Combat Jack.

That fucks niggas up. Niggas is already in there dealing with a lot. So I can't imagine how that would have affected Meek. So that's great. The overwhelming love and support that he got, that was great. They say that it happened from a wild threesome? Swag.

I'm not believing that. Is that one of those marketing things? Remember when Lloyd Banks' big withdrawal leaked and he said, oh, I was having a threesome in the car and the bitches took it and was like, all right.

That sounds fly. He really left it on the plane in the fucking, the back seat pocket. No, no. Fell out of your back. No, I was beefing with him back then. He really did leave that shit in somebody's car. I don't know if it was the threesome.

Well, that's what he said. I think he was just getting dropped off home. After the threesome? Yeah, you know. No, I think he was getting fly, letting a chick try to hear his new shit. Yeah. And then he left and forgot it was in the Sentra.

He was probably giving it to the Sentra. Yeah. Banks got to call us and give us the lowdown on what happened with that. I do like the idea of attaching a threesome to everything negative. I mean, you can't hate on a threesome. Yeah. Well, yes, you can. Well, if there's any way I want to go out, let me put this on record.

Right. If there's any way I want to exit this world, it would be in a threesome. Why? That's the only thing I know. Why? I hope one of them is a nurse. I mean, what's a better way to go out? Surrounded by family more.

Did you see? Surrounded by family. Did you see Gone Girl? Yeah. That's with Matt Damon? And Joey Lawrence. Joey Lawrence. And Jennifer Lawrence.

No, not Matt Damon. It's Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck. Same person. Yeah, more or less. Yeah. They all kind of the same person. They're the same person.

Both from Boston. Boston. And Marky Mark. Boston. Same thing. Did the guy that died at the end, did he look like he was having the time of his life? same person. Both from Boston. Boston. And Marky Mark. Boston. Same thing. Did the guy that died at the end, did he look like

he was having the time of his life when she was riding the hell out of him and then slit his fucking throat? He actually did look like he was having the time of his life. You do not want to die

like that, Mark. Like he died? No, I don't. Don't slit my fucking throat. Yeah, that sounds terrible. Let's get into three. But if I'm having a crazy bust

about to bust a nut and my heart explodes in my chest right after, listen, man, it was a hell of a ride. So you still actively solicit threesomes today? I've never had a threesome. That was just a wild way to ask that question. No, I've never had a threesome. Solicit. Actively soliciting.

When I tell y'all I'm tired of mall, y'all never believe me. Why? Just stop being that guy in the room. What guy? That just says things to spark the conversation. Oh, I've never done that. Ask me something. Ask me anything. Why don't you? I've said that before on the show. I've never had a threesome.

Never. We had this conversation before. Then you are way more trash than I thought. I might be. I don't know. No, no. Think about it. I don't know. No, no. No, think about it. I don't know. I just never had one. Are you against it?

Obviously not. I said I would want to go out having a threesome. So I'm not against it. No, I just never had one. So you don't know how to close the deal? I've never tried to put the deal on the table. So you're afraid of not being able to close the deal? I'm not afraid of anything.

I've never had a deal on the table. The deal has been on the table. We've lived together. I've never had a deal on the table. The deal has been on the table. We've lived together. I've never had the deal on the table. The deal has been on the table. Pause, pause, pause, pause. It hasn't. No, I'm not pausing it.

We've lived together. The deal was on the table. That is a little crazy. Pause. After afterthoughts last week. No, okay. It's valid. Yeah, no doubt.

Yeah, I recidivize. See, this is one of those things. I don't want this to be a new trend on the podcast where we get into a story halfway and then get out of it. But you've been in bed with mad people. Okay. Why don't you see how that relates to the ability to have a threesome? Well, I mean. Your fake sleep game is trash, number one. No, but you gotta understand... You gotta fake sleep and

throw your hand over something. No, but sometimes... But at the same time, if I'm in a bed with multiple women... The bitch be looking at me, damn, Joe sleeps crazy. Yeah. Why does Joe sleep like he's swimming?

Both hands keep reaching up. Like he's swimming. Joe sleeps with he's swimming Both hands keep reaching up Sleep like he's swimming Joe sleeps with his tongue out Yo I was the king of the fake sleep I'd be in full Gyrating Motion

Yo sleep fucking Yo I hate when none of y'all relate to nothing all of y'all are Billy Dee Williams I'm listening I did want to ask the morning after the threesome and the awkwardness of whether you're going to pop it off again or is just

are you just going to fuck one girl is the other one going to feel left out of this because you know morning sex just happens you kind of roll over it just happens It's not really popped off the way the threesome was the night before. Has anyone had some awkward experience in the morning of a threesome?

I've never had a threesome. Alright, robo-dick. No. What the fuck Rory think he is? Robo-dick. Let me tell you something why you can't ask

when the threesome is over actually fuck that before the threesome is over I'm taking a bathroom break in the middle and trying to get

out of there I'm not trying to stick around to the morning for a round two hell no are you kidding me

at 30 whatever I was eager as a child. When I read, I believe that Rick Ross could have, you know, had difficulties during a threesome. You assume that there were some vices involved. I think that's a big part of this. I'm just going to assume. Your threesome is trash if you didn't have vices involved.

A sober ass threesome? That's probably one of the reasons Maul never had a threesome. He in there being that guy. Nah, I don't smoke or drink. Fine, loser. Nah, you got to remember to look at each other.

Nah, a lot of the times though, you got to remember one of the women might not gotta remember One of the women Might not be Sexually attracted To the other woman That's why I've been in situations

Like that Like where one of the women Have absolutely said Nah I wouldn't do nothing with her Yeah so You know It has to be The situation has to be

You know It just has to be The right situation Quite some time ago I made a rule A rule for myself that I would no longer participate in threesomes for various reasons. It was threesomes were one of those things where where, you know, men, men, men, we go through a lot of peer pressure at around 2021 where we don't really know ourselves. So we're just listening to a group of our stupid friends some of who are lying yeah let me tell you something when i was about fucking

1920 man all and all of my friends said they were just running through them all of course they were running and and i wasn't so sexually active i was like damn man you guys are really like how do Man, all of my friends said they were just running through them all. Of course. They were running. And I wasn't so sexually active. I was like, damn, man, you guys are really. Like, how do y'all do that? So the second I was able to run through them all, I started to run through them all. Boy, that was disgusting. That was nasty.

You lose self-respect for yourself. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, there's grown dudes that do that. Yeah, but them niggas nasty too. No, it's grown dudes that lie about running through the mall. I don't even think that's cool. It's not cool. Word.

What are you getting from telling me that? All right, Duke. All right, congrats. Niggas lying on their dick all the time. Congrats on your standards. Yeah, but threesomes, right? Threesomes were way way too tricky because you like had to please two people threesomes are not for you somewhere in the middle

of me being famous i was done trying to please two people and then when you continue to self be self-destructive you notice in your 30s that during sex with one person, your heartbeat like maybe does some irregular shit that you're not really accustomed to it doing. And now, add on top of that, if you're in your 30s and you like to fornicate with women in their 20s. It's a lot of work. Good luck. You're going to die of a heart attack.

It's a lot of work. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me be the first to tell you. You old niggas That like fucking these young chicks Are going to die Hey next time your young chick is on top of you Doing all that sexy beautiful shit That only young chicks could do

Just put your hand on your heart Take your pulse I'm not lying Quincy Jones will disagree with you I'd be on the bottom thinking oh what did I do

to my heart to get in this predicament what did I do to my heart for real it's gonna give out you ever seen

Wolf of Wall Street when he's on all those quaaludes and that chick is fucking him and his eyes is rolling back He's not even there His body is just lifeless

Yeah but I don't think That had anything to do with The quaaludes definitely added to that Of course I'm just saying Older men More than one person a year Die from sex

Hell yeah Of course Of course It's not just solely because They're just older I don't want sex But I don't want sex that can kill me today. And I don't want sex from two of y'all.

Well, I'm married. I don't want shit. But no, I'm cool. I would take sex from two of them. Story about that. I'm just putting that out there. Two of them, yes, I would take sex. The two of us.

The three of us I can't believe that you've never had a threesome we're gonna change that to something I'm shocked as well we're gonna create

some content baby that's the content that's the content we're gonna create some content that's content you don't think that's a show

oh that's definitely a show for sure. An HBO show. What would be your threesome criteria? What would you look for? Just two attractive girls that are cool. That are attracted to each other.

That are cool with each other? Cool with each other. Cool just to have regular, like, kick it conversation. Oh, I was going to go with the cool with each other dynamic. Yeah, you have to be cool. Because that can go so many different ways. You have to be cool. Yeah, no, we got to be cool because that can go so many different ways. You have to be cool. Yeah, no, we got to be cool.

It'll pop off quicker if they have some chemistry. Yeah, you got to be cool. Yeah, we got to be able to have fun, laugh, conversation. What if it's just the fake drunk girls having fun

with each other? I don't want a drunk. I don't want any drunk sex. I'm cool. Grow up. Grow up? Wait, wait, wait, wait. All I do want is drunk sex.

You said you don't. You don't want drunk sex. I ain't is drunk sex. You said you don't want drunk sex. I ain't had sober sex in 15 years. Wait, hold up. Let's get into more a little bit. What are you looking for, Maul? I don't want drunk sex. I understand that. I hate drunk sex.

I had enough drunk sex. That shit is trash. Drunk sex is terrible. No, it's not. That shit is terrible. I like terrible it's not that shit is terrible i like you to be coherent and understand you're sober and she's drunk that's trash i agree with you there like yeah i like sloppy like a little bit of drink mutual drunk oh a couple like a drink is sloppy drunk i'm talking about that bullshit i'm talking about you said drunk

oh you're the guy that likes this that likes to smell the little hint of Budweiser on her breath. Nah, I don't want to smell no Budweiser on her breath. It's an aphrodisiac. Hey, yeah, I was about to say that. That can get things started sometimes. I'm cool on that. Nah. I definitely don't want no Budweiser on her breath. I ain't going to lie.

Sometimes when a chick come home and she got a little Budweiser on her breath, it get me into my little role playing. Oh, you feeling a little slutty tonight, huh? No. In my early years, I was dirty white trash. She had a little Marlboro on her mouth, a little Newport on her mouth. I was about to ask, Joe, how do you feel about,

as a smoker, how do you feel about girls that smoke? Hypothetically, hypothetically. Y'all are fucking tripping. Not now. When I was a teenager. Because a girl that smokes. That was the only girl that was fucking. Yeah, a girl that smokes is definitely fucking.

Y'all fuck girls That smoke cigarettes When I was 16 Hookah counts too 14 I'm not a 16 year old girl That smoked no cigarettes Wait do you hear who

What is more talking about I'm not fucking I'm not fucking I'm not fucking No girl that smokes cigarettes What about hookahs I'm not No hookahs is what I was

Cigarettes A cig No it's not It smells different No it's not A cig I'm not fucking no girl all right we got that part elaborate from that elaborate from that point what you mean six i don't even like the smell of cigarettes so for a girl to smoke smoking it with her pussy more it's her it's on

her it's on her face her hair her, her body, like her mouth. I'm not getting the fuck out of here. I'm not fucked at. You don't even strike me as the dude that's all caressing her. I'm cool. It ain't about that. Or kissing her. Or playing with her hair. That's just nasty.

Any chick that smokes cigarettes, I automatically think her pussy stink. Like, that's just my theory. All right. You know, I see. That's my theory. I'm canceling that show idea. That's just my theory all right you know you know that's my theory i'm canceling that show idea that's my theory bro cigarettes are disgusting i just want to show y'all how how fast a great show can just get turned to shit as soon as i find out she smokes cigs yo she's eliminated so she can't something starts when they share the newport maul did you

have do you ever realize do you ever just listen to some of the things that you're against? Yeah. No, you're right, though. Sharing the cig. That starts to do something. I share my gin. That starts to do something. We can smoke some weed together. Sharing the hookah? We can smoke some weed together.

Smoking is smoking. Cigarettes? Nah, we can smoke some weed together. Cigarettes? I'm cool. I don't smoke hookah. The bitch who was teaching how to swim smoked. I never did anything with her you taught her how to swim

she's smoking in the pool the chlorine killed it I wasn't trying to have sex with her I'm talking about a girl that I'm about to be intimate with she's not about to pull out the cig at the last minute you're going to be like halt never mind wait a minute Brandy

wait why is she Brandy. He just tried to swim. Wait, why is she Brandy? I don't know. I'm cool on the cigarette shit. More like you're fucking a Brandy. Brandys are attractive, typically. I know a lot of cute Brandys. Yeah, Brandy is one of them.

There's not really a lot of ugly Brandys that I can think of. I meant to say that earlier when y'all was talking about Alyssa. Alyssa is kind of a slore, usually. But you don't know a lot of ugly Alyssas. No, you don't. No, no, no.

I was just saying. If the parent was bold enough to put the S up. It was ahead of their time. Yeah, they knew something was going on. Nah, I know some whack Melissa's. Yeah, Melissa's. Yeah, that's hit or miss. I mean, it's like Jennifer.

If they switch it to Melly, they might be a little sexy. I don't know if Melissa's. If they abbreviate it a little bit, then they cute. Only cute girls can abbreviate their names. That's a good point. If you ugly, we're calling you your full name. Let's be clear. You don't have an abbreviated name if you're ugly.

Nah, they normally have the hood nicknames. You can't be an ugly girl with a cute abbreviation though. Nah. We might call you your first and last name if you're ugly enough. All right. Anyway, we're getting off of this. So I didn't really have anywhere to go.

I don't even know what that was exactly. Oh, here's what we can talk about. The Avengers trailer. Y'all can have that one. Yeah. Okay. So I'll talk about it. I thought it was pretty important

that the avengers trailer came out off of uh i won't say off the success of black panther because that's just not true but you know as their next big summer blockbuster film or just the next big film period but that's not why i thought it was interesting this movie is important for one reason and one reason only in my mind and that is because this should be the movie that we find out how, well, not how, but why all of the Avengers are pussy. That's it. This is the movie where we should learn that. My memory's bad, but I think I remember in the comic books,

Thanos killed everybody. Who? You just spoiled the whole movie. Thanos is in the trailer. I think Joe Lawrence is in that one, too. Thanos is in the trailer. And if you know Thanos from the comic books, he beat the Avengers ass. And the Fantastic Four.

He killed all of them niggas. They had to call a silver surfer. You know a lot about comics. I never knew that about you. So my point is. He's a rap nerd at his core. If this movie comes out and Thanos does not kill all of the Avengers, then I'm boycotting. I need my loves to stand with me against Marvel Studios.

to stand with me against Marvel Studios. If Spider-Man, T'Challa, Captain America and that little whack-ass shield, if all of them come up and beat up Thanos,

I'm over it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. And that's all I have to say about the Avengers movie. So invested in this. Yeah, you really are. This movie, this plot.

I had no idea. Storyline. Maul came on here and black panthered us to death for a year and I'm invested because I'm saying I didn't black panther

y'all for a year. I just said it was going to be one of the biggest movies ever. Yeah, but you said it two years ago. When we saw the trailer, when we got news

that it was coming out. I'm not that invested in an Avengers movie. Don't do that. No, I said you're in the storyline. If it's not what you remember as a child when you't do that. No, I said you're in the storyline. I'm not in the If it's not what you

remember as a child when you were reading your comic books, then you're going to be upset and walk out of the theater and slam butter popcorn all over the

place. No. Why not? They fell off? I just stopped getting them when I got of age. Okay.

And they became a lot more difficult to get at some point when I was in school. So that's what really led to me stopping if you must know. I was curious. I don't care about this, but I saw

Crook talk about it on his timeline, so I thought it was interesting that the little Zan kid that Peter was pumping up, he said something disrespectful about Tupac that I won't even mention. I do think it's funny because this is the kid that Peter Rosenberg has been championing all week. He signed to Peter Rosenberg?

I don't know who he signed to. I don't know anything about Lil Xan. I wake up early, so Pete is on the timeline early one day going, and he doesn't do Xans. I'm saying to myself. You don't understand his artsy, ironic name. I'm saying to myself, well't understand his artsy ironic name I'm saying to myself well what the hell

has got Pete so irate in the morning is his name Xander or something like that I have no idea but he looked like a nigga that does Zans and Pete was going hard for him

but that's not the point so then Pete goes on this long soliloquy about all the old guys that diss all the little guys one of y'all helped me. Oh yeah, when you said Curtis Blow didn't like ODB or something.

Curtis Blow fans didn't like ODB or something. Peter Rosenberg, you have not polled all the Curtis Blow fans. You have no idea. You have no idea who they liked or didn't like, even though I do understand the point you were trying to make, but I disagree with that.

Let me flip this around, though, for a second. The same way that a lot of these pundits seem to have a problem with, what do they call me? A hater? Old? Well, not me, but let me generalize this. The older people that seem to hate all the lils. They just call Joe Budden.

A hater. Joe Budden. It'sater. Joe Budden. It's in a song. Yeah, that's true. But I'm trying to generalize and make it apply to more people. Oh, okay. Just the older people. They used your name.

I'm not talking about the song. No, but the song was telling us what to call these people. That's true. Fine. All the Joe Buddens. All of these old people that have a problem with the Lils. I don't think that I'm in that group. But.

I feel bad for Lil Troy. I would like to flip the coin. It's not really a coin. You had Lil Mo on your album. Wait. Are you talking about Mo? Yes, I had Lil Mo on my album. Oh, Lil Mo.? Yes I had Little Moe On my album

Oh Little Moe I used to say Little Moe You don't hate the Lil's That's just evidence Oh my god Parks I don't need to talk about Lil Anyway

And Lil Wayne And Lil Wayne So uh But what I'm saying is this I think all these niggas Is full of shit I think all of them Is full of shit And I think all of them is full of shit

and I think all of these old niggas that go on these long tangents about liking the little niggas and hating the old niggas that hate the little niggas,

they're doing that just to be liked by the little niggas. Yeah. I don't believe none of that shit for one fucking second. All of you are liars.

Absolutely. I liked when Rosenberg had all those Soulja Boy YouTube clips when he was dissing Soulja Boy. I like that Peter Rosenberg. It's okay to not like the new music. Rosenberg does not like Lil Xan.

I like when Rosenberg was dissing Duke on YouTube. That's what I say. Yo, all of these niggas are liars. I agree. He doesn't like Lil Xan. Rosenberg is not riding around listening to Lil Xan he's too much of a real hip-hop head to really be listening to Lil Xan like that I don't believe Rosenberg is listening to Lil Xan I don't believe Star knows shit about any of them little niggas that they ask him about

every morning well I'll stop with Star there because Star has always said he don't listen to that shit he'll just talk about he's been doing that since Dipset era. He always said he didn't really listen to it. He just knew about it. I think he's different because he's not a hip-hop head the way Rosenberg is. But the point remains that all these- The point I'm making is there are a lot of elder statesmen, and I'm not really the case with Star, because he's at a job. He don't really seem so passionate about it like he does but these elder statesmen uh that keep talking about all the older niggas that hate the

little niggas y'all hate them little niggas too man word and i hate that everything's become being a hater i reserve the right to not like lil xan i'm not a hater i just don't think that i think that music is awful i agree i can say that well that. Well, I don't know Lil Xan's music. I don't know him personally. I know when I turn that music on, I don't like it. And get the line out of here that because that's not for you, you can't not like it. Yes, I

can. I cannot like it. If I'm out in the street in a car ride by blasting Lil Xan, I don't have to say, that's not really for me, car. I can say, damn it, I hate that. I hate it.

I'm with you. I hate a lot of shit. You know what? I disagree with Funkmaster Flex adding Lil Yachty and all them young niggas with that, your whack shit,

but I've been saying- Yeah, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying it. I don't like it. I've been saying for years that a lot of the- See, this is back before the internet got really, really, really popping when my beef was with Flex.

My beef was with, pardon me, my beef was with a DJ enough, my beef was with all these DJs that's fucking 45 and up that get down to the same shit I boogie to in my house that get on the radio and start champing on this little bullshit. That was my beef then. Now, though... It's the same beef. I don't believe Elliot Wilson is having the greatest of times

riding around in a car, listening to some music from these little fuckity fucks. I don't believe that. I agree. Sorry, Elliot. Love you. I do not... I believe that Elliot Wilson is getting in the Sentra

with a few people that he really don't want to hear how this shit sounds in the car. Elliot is 57 years old. Elliot Wilson is not leaving his title office and going home to say, hmm, let's give this one the car test. It's just not happening. It's content not happening.

It's content. Yeah, but we got to simmer it down. We have to simmer it down. You know, this is what I will say. I do like how Ebro does it. I like how Ebro has attempted to embrace the newer acts.

Because he still does it as an old nigga who don't understand it. I like that. Rosenberg can't go from having and i love you pete rosenberg can't go from having 50 book bags on at one time listening to kendrick's demo and in front of sobs at 2 30 p.m and then beat me down with little Xan shit. Sorry. Sorry. It's very awkward. I think the kid's name might be Xander. I wouldn't give a fuck what. And this is no disrespect to Xander.

Maybe he's Alexander. We have to look into that. Savon, look that up, please. His name might be Xander or Alexander. Like, we got to give it, you know. All right, that's all I have for that one. All right, let's see what else is really, really. His name is Diego.

Okay. There you go. His name is what? First of all, why your name Diego? We moving Diego, Diego. Do y'all care that Atlantic Records is starting a podcast division? Had I known that last week, well, I did know it last week, but it slipped my mind. I would have asked Kaiser about that when we called him.

Ask for a deal? No, I don't want a deal. We are podcast mercenaries, independent of all the corporate chains. Well, I think with Atlantic probably leading labels. Why is mmm so funny? It's powerful. Think about it. It's very powerful.

What are you saying? Well, Atlantic has been signing all those weirdo fucking Vine people to put out records because it streams well. Podcasts come out daily. They're three hours long. I'm sure there's some loophole with streaming there.

I think it's them just taking advantage of what the streaming rules are before streaming gets hip and changes them. I already told Dean what we got to do, but he didn't want to listen, so we'll keep it moving. I tried to tell y'all, but y'all laughed me out with the Dame Dash shit, where he made his book and album.

Don't get me started. But it has sounds like a movie. Yeah, don't get me started with that one. Our podcast has sounds like a movie. No, we laughed you out of here, but you were right. Ian said that too. That's like an idea. I laughed because I don't want to talk about too much

on the podcast in case I do one. You're going to do a book? I might. All right. This is a book. Tuma left spotify this one i really tried to do some investigative uh research on because that one was real big to me y'all don't care about that i don't know i don't know who tuma is okay oh tuma tuma is the gentleman who curated the rap caviar playlist on Spotify.

Their biggest playlist sans the Top 100 playlist. But he broke a lot of new acts over there, and he just seemed to be like the guy over at Spotify, the same way Larry would be the guy over at Apple, Larry or Carl. Pardon me if there's another guy at Apple, but those are the two people I speak to. Name drop. Yeah, so tuma's that for spotify and anytime you heard him him or anybody from spotify speak in an interview or some shit made it sound like that relationship would be long lasting so this was out of the blue so then i tried to get on the phone and find out why Tuma could possibly be leaving Spotify.

Tuma's been at MTV. He's been at, he's well accomplished. Okay. Used to drop off VHSes to him. He should, like, we should see the effect of this loss is what I'm saying. Like, we should have heard more about it. This should have been a bigger story in the music business if people knew who he was they tried to keep them guys quiet i think because their emails

would be flooded with mixtapes and the exec is not like as quote-unquote cool as it used to be for the labels like people used to know they used to get like shouted out in raps like that's you know the kids aren't on the label thing anymore. So they're not as popular to the masses as execs used to be. Kevin Lyle's got shouted out 15 times per album. That's true. So I just don't think people are rushing to find out what the execs are doing because they particularly don't care. It's very important, but I think to the masses and the public,'s not something that's gonna quote unquote go viral i don't think the masses in public really fully understand the

impact of uh playlists and streaming so no we're still learning about it so if anybody has inside info on exactly what happened to tumor man please text that shit to me man i'm just nosy i would love to know what's going on there uh you want to talk about ray schrimmer i do uh let's talk about ray schrimmer i had a swaley single on repeat while i was moving it's a real cool barefoot record i was into it i thought it was kind of odd that it was featuring ray schrimmer and he's ray shremmett why do you think that's odd uh like when hey y'all came out when they did speakerbox love below it it wasn't andre 3000 featuring outcast it was featuring big boy uh okay or roses i'm sorry not hey yeah i just i was

it's featuring the group you're in was there ever ever a solo Wu-Tang project that was featuring Wu-Tang? This is not weird to me because this is still a Ray Shremert album, even though they decided to get really creative with how they were releasing this album. So the only way to keep track of these solo records that aren't really solo records because they still come from Ray Strummer is to say featuring Ray Strummer. It's like a hashtag. It's super weird.

It's funny because it's two of them. There was eight of them. It's just me and the other guy. Here's my song featuring me. These gentlemen have really been winning me over For a little while

I'll be honest They get the credit I think they deserve But not really Not really No they don't The way people love Migos I think Ray Strimmet has had

If not a better run Numbers wise These niggas always Rush right to the punches Yo the way Migos is loved That's how they should be loved what you were saying joe build it up sir thank you so let's let's spend time let i hate that we're a culture that does this like we can't talk about one person for one second without automatically going to that next

person so let's spend some time on race room for a little bit because they've earned it. I agree. They have. I agree with you guys. They're underrated, number one. And I have to applaud, again, the consistency from these gentlemen. Every time they come out, they seem to come out different. Yeah. Two great albums. Mad great singles.

Mad great features. When I thought they wouldn't bounce back from that first album that was chock full of hits, they come back with fucking, they make everybody stand still. Now, I'm giving them credit for that. When Mike, Will, whoever's on that team of creatives, when they sit down and try to figure it out, after that album full of hits, they had to figure out how to come back and be important. Right. How to matter still and coexist with the Migos. Right. I am positive that that was a conversation that somebody had, and they hit that shit right out of the park. Well, their whole style and their whole sound is way different from the Migos, though.

That's true, but it's not. It's very different. They're still in the same category maybe. They're around the same age. That's it. Well,

I mean, that matters. They don't sound alike. Their fans are the same age. But more people always say there's enough money for everybody.

In some cases, I totally disagree with that. Everybody can't win. In some cases, people are fighting for the same exact fans i don't but i don't that's it i think that ray schrummert and migo's fans are there's a lot of crossover there's a lot of the same fans but they also have a lot of different i agree but there is some overlap. Yeah, no, it is, but only because at the core of it, it is hip hop. It is, you know what I mean? It's like a younger generation,

so it is going to be the same fans to an extent, but the music is so different. I think that the music that Ray Shrummet makes and the music that Migos makes is two totally different sounds. I don't know. You'd play them in the same set if you were DJing. Yeah.

Yeah, but it's still different, though. I agree that it's different. They talking about different shit. The music sounds different. Man, that shit is the same shit. No, it's not. No, it's not. Ray Sherman makes totally different music.

No, you're right. They do. But it's overlap. It's overlap in the fan base. Well, because they're the same. They're in the same age bracket they're in the same generation they're so they their fans are the same every time i keep trying to not talk about migos in association with ray schrimmer we end up on migos well you have to you can't you can't have a conversation about this younger generation and not talk about migos but that

is exactly why i'm not talking about Migos. Because I'm not having a conversation about the younger generation. I'm having a conversation about music that I'm enjoying as an old nigga. So you don't enjoy...

And that is the difference for me. You don't enjoy the Migos music? No. Not the way that I enjoy Rick Strummer's music, no. That stir fry is fire, though. That record's awesome.

Well, of course, I enjoy a lot of music. That record is super dope. Not the way you like... I love that record is awesome of course i enjoy a lot not the way i know we had our little thing i don't want to joe button amigos right of course i love me goes yeah i don't think there's an age barrier on ray schirmer's music i don't feel that way and i think you can attribute that to maybe more so Sway Lee, but I don't give a fuck who you attribute it to. I think that exists.

I don't think that French Unforgettable is for kids. I don't think no Flex Zones for kids. I don't think they're making music for kids. I just think they're kids. Right. And maybe not, because Slim Jimmy might be 30 on the law they're definitely not kids swaley is a younger gentleman slim jimmy i think is an adult slim jimmy might be 25 26 i i don't

know but that that for me is the difference i'm not saying sonically it's similar i don't i don't know i don't know i don't know how to explain it. It's in the same ballpark, though. I mean, they're definitely... I commend these kids again. Again, they turn around. They do it again. They had to go sit... And that's the only part I'm really paying attention to.

Not the part about when you go out and you sell your records and you buy your jewelry and you tour and you get all your money. When all of that is finished and you have to sit down and figure out how to get it to work again ask young ma how difficult it is ask designer how difficult it is at the end of the day

it don't even matter it's good music is good music i don't care about demographic age group like when you're making good music people are going to be attracted to it and they're going to listen to it that's just that's just the bottom line. It doesn't matter how old or young you are. When it's good music, it's good music. Period. And I think Ray Sherman makes good music. I think the Migos make good music.

I agree. So it doesn't matter if you're 19 or 39. Shit come on. You're going to bop to it. I'll tell you what. If they make a three album, three disc album sound dope and not dragged out i'll be super impressed they got mike will so if they make a what a three disc whatever three disc album i don't even know how you call a triple album now but if they make that sound not long and boring to listen to, I'll be super impressed. If they do that, they do it again.

It's basically, if they do that, would, would they, would that change the conversation of best group? I already think they're the best group of their kind of smaller sub genre. The only reason I don't call them a group is because there's two of them. Duo, whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. They're a duo. If they had, if they had to take off in their group i'm going them that's me and that's not because of any pre-existing friction between migos has the masses and they have you know that cult love that they built over so i think no matter what ray strimmer does with this the migos are still going to be loved because even the way i saw their fans not love this last migos album very much the buzz around them still hasn't dropped at all people still

love them that is true unconditionally that's true so i don't think they could put out the best album ever and i still think migos is going to have the masses well that's because migos have outgrown i think they've outgrown music yeah they're bigger the the name migos is is've outgrown music. Yeah, I see what you're saying. The name Migos is outgrown music. I think they're doing so many other things. And just, you know, them as a group, their look, their style is bigger than music right now. Which is why they have all these endorsements and these different things going on. It's not just about music with them anymore. Which is dope.

I mean, that's what you get into music for. You get into music to show your other talents and do other things so i mean coach k has done with all his clients you want to hear a hot take that i came up with let's hear it and and i'm not gonna be not gonna delve into this too much if i'm nikki if i'm nikki minaj i'm standing next to that swaley kid for the next two years that's what i would have done i would have stood next to that Swaley kid for the next two years. That's what I would have done. I would have stood next to him the way that she was standing next to Quavo, the way that she was standing next to Uzi.

I would have took that Swaley stimulus package. And then when I thought about that, it got me to wondering, I mean, how's that relationship? I don't really hear why that should, that should have been a thought from somebody. Nicki Minaj and Swaley, with nikki being so quiet i love all the quiet shit i love this is the this is great this is great they had that huge record i think it was off the first ray strimmer album nikki and them that was for ray that was that was for uh ray strimmer yeah right yeah so and it was huge and that that's when Nicki was in her peak. I think Nicki is aware and still...

They need to return that favor. ...has that relationship. I just think Mike Will just keeps these kids in the studio and they don't do the politic in the way that Migos does.

I think Mike Will is keeping all of real fire shit for them too. I agree. As he should. I think that Sway Lee is being honest

when he says he has 300 Unforgettables in his computer. I believe him As he should. I think that Sway Lee is being honest when he says he has 300 Unforgettables in his computer. I believe him now. Word. And I believe that that kid's an amazing roller skater. You can't even make this record without being good at roller skating. Even though I'm seeing skating coming back in style. Pardon me.

I'm judging all y'all. Scissor stop. Stop skating. Drake isor stop. Stop skating. Drake is skating. You're just looking at bucks. Swiss is skating. Swiss is skating in his house. Swiss has glass gaiotes on his wall. He can do anything in his house.

He's got a statue as big as his house. I want to get up and skate right. What else do you do to this record if not skate? Bowl. Oh, you definitely got to bowl and hit the spare. You got to hit. You cannot leave the spare. The leg kick.

Yeah. Yes. Hey. You might have to do the full leg kick. Yeah. Hey, right now the screen is flashing the spare sign with the name I inserted. Boy, this kid has a good time. Yeah.

That's a really sad record, too. I fuck with Sway Lee, man. Nothing. It shouldn't hurt to look your way. What? Yet it does. Good song, Mo. Yo, you...

No, I didn't know, because you looked at me and said it. So I'm like, what? Don't do that, Mo. Okay. But what were you about to say? Can we revisit the Nicki Remy thing for a second? Okay.

All right, so remember what y'all said? It was like over for Nicky? No. When the whole beef record came out? No one ever said it was over for Nicky. No, I hate it more. We didn't say it was over for Nicky. Well, y'all said it was quiet.

It was quiet. Okay, yeah, it was quiet. It was, that's true. Is it quiet for Remy? Right now? Yeah. No. It's not?

You didn't see Loving Hip Hop Reunion? No, I don't watch Loving Hip Hop. Well, she was on it. If you're asking, all right, so let's have an intelligent conversation since you're asking me. This is what I'm noticing from remy i'm noticing for me the same thing i've always seen from remy which is remy leaks a street record uh so it's that record with kim and now she has the remake of pretty brown eyes with chris brown that is of slower bpm it's a girl record and she's rapping that record has to be worked that that is not

going to be an instantaneous record the same way that little kim record wasn't going to be that way but if there's one person who we all agree in here has a pretty phenomenal ear it's fat joe and fat joe stands by these records so before i say it's quiet for remy i'm gonna give it a second because she does have records in the marketplace and she's still visible. Now, if these records come out, I mean, if they're worked and they fail, and now she has a hard time putting an album out,

then yeah, let's have that conversation. But no, Parks was just at fucking Pap's birthday party. Briefly. Happy birthday, Pap. Man birthday I ain't gonna invite the past birthday party yeah so that answer that time will answer that you think it's uh do you think it's quiet for me I mean I'm not gonna say it's quiet but

let's Nikki is not active right let me ask you this right and it to say it's quiet, but Nikki is not active right now. But let me ask you this. And it's still... So this is how I'm just looking at it. But wait, before you say that, let me ask you a question. If it is quiet for Remy, what does that have to do with her winning that beef? Because you're looking to see who wins the war? She definitely won that beef, by the way. How?

How not? That song was terrible. Mom, I'm not doing this again. That record was terrible. I don't even, and I fuck with Remy. Nikki put out a record with her and Drake

and Lil Wayne and it didn't do anything. Mo, I don't want to do this right now because I like, the whole verse was about Remy. No, she just addressed it in her verse,

but the whole record wasn't about, the whole verse was about Remy. But the record was different. It was a record that had nothing to do with the beef. Y'all all know how Moul feels about this beef i'm just saying i'm just my music i don't understand how y'all think that and i and let's be clear i love remy bx i fuck

with it i'm rooting for we just talking about music i don't understand how y'all feel like that she smoked her what are you talking about smoked Smoked her how? I'm not doing this. I'm not having this conversation again, man. I'm just saying, man. Nikki's not putting out no music, and it's an open lane. Right after she got killed, she's not putting out no music. I'm trying to not have this talk more because I, who have been one of Nikki's harshest critics, I like what she's doing right now.

I love it. She's getting low. Yeah. It's been what I have been suggesting for quite some time. And in my humble opinion, it's working. It's working. Right this second, I would love to know what Nicki's doing and feeling. Guess what?

I don't. That's how the fuck it should be with a star of that magnitude. I shouldn't be able to pull out my phone and know exactly what somebody is doing, feeling, or thinking. Nah. Okay. Nah. We'll revisit this in a few weeks. She just popped up at one of them Oscar parties, right?

And the buzz was there. It was like, oh, Nicki popped up. We're finally seeing Nicki. It was on page six of the post. That's the type of frenzy you want. That's what I would think when you are of that magnitude. But that's going to always happen when Nikki pops up. No, it don't.

No, it wasn't happening, Mo. It wasn't happening. You had people like me saying, God damn it, would you please just go away? You're ruining it. You were the only one saying that. No, I'm not. She ruined all our relationships. I'm just the only nigga she didn't actually text and curse out.

She text and cursed out. I can't wait to see where she's going to stop on when she puts out her next album. Because you have to stop somewhere. All right, we'll revisit that. Now, what I will say is this. You talking about Remy and Nicki. And I didn't even know we was getting into this. No, only because Nicki is not active in music right now.

So you would think that the person that was beefing with her, that was saying she was the one, it would be like clean, clear cut that, yes, she is the one. And that's not what it is. I'm just waiting to see if Cardi is officially pregnant or not. Honestly, I can't even I can't even fairly assess the female rapper race without knowing if Cardi is pregnant. She's been a little quiet, right? Yeah. Wait, that's what the race is. Wait, what?

So she's not in the race. She doesn't have an album out. It don't matter. She has the hottest single. Neither does Nicki and Remy. Right. No, but Remy has put out an album before is It don't matter. Neither does Nikki and Remy. No, but Remy has put out an album before is what I'm saying. I can't even

take Cardi seriously until she puts an album out. You have to put an album out. I don't care about a record. You have to put an album out. You have to put an album out. An album is coming. You have to put an album out. I'm not talking about... Cardi is hot.

Y'all just changed the entire dynamic of the conversation. All we was talking about car i mean cardi is hot y'all just changed the entire dynamic of the conversation all we was talking about was the race between women right and we're talking about what niki can't wait wait hold up and we're talking about what niki is doing prior to whenever what she does next comes we're talking about what remi is doing prior to whatever she has next coming and cardi is in that boat yeah but cardi can't be in that boat until she puts an album out. Why? You have to put a body of work out

before you can be in a boat with people that have put out bodies of work. A couple of hot singles, honestly. She's in that conversation. We have to have a Cardi B album before you can start putting out an album. I don't know what you have. She's 1,000% in the race,

but I'm rolling with more than... You cannot compare her to Nicki Minaj. You can't even put her in the same category. But I wasn't comparing her to Nicki Minaj. You said she's in the race, but I'm rolling with more than... You cannot compare her to Nicki Minaj. You can't even put her in the same category. But I wasn't comparing her to Nicki Minaj. You said she's in the race. I'm saying that both Remy and Nicki and whoever else, all the women,

should be aware of Cardi B's place in this race. Album or not. No, you need Album. She's been on that G-Eazy record that's rocking. She only slowed down recently. race album or not no you need out she's been on that that g-eazy record is rocking the old she only slowed down recently she's not even really that slow she's got finesse the g you need an album card here party here i don't know if that would really hit it didn't but but motor sport

turned out to be something that spanish record is hard as fuck these are verses preparation for an album. Until she puts an album out, we cannot have this conversation about her and Nicki Minaj. I'm sorry. No. I don't know.

Cannot happen. I disagree. Cannot happen. I wasn't even trying to have the Nicki Minaj conversation. I understand, but you said it's the race, so she can't be in that race

without an album. I'm sorry. That doesn't happen. But if the race is for the summer that's coming. You need an album. Why do I without an album. I'm sorry. That doesn't happen. But if the race is for the summer that's coming. You need an album. Why do I need an album for the summer that's ahead of us?

You need an album. She has to have an album. All right, all right. You can't compare... That's just disrespectful in so many ways to compare somebody that has albums

to someone that has verses on records that are hot. But I'm not comparing careers. You said she's in the race. She can't... There's no race. Maul, I'm not talking about the race for the best female rapper. I'm not comparing careers. You said she's in the race. She can't. There's no race. Maul, I'm not talking about the race for the best female rapper.

I'm not talking about the race for the most dominant female. I'm talking about what I've been talking about for a while, positioning for your next project. The three of them are battling for positioning for their next project. They are. They are. When Nicki sends her record to radio which she will eventually have to do she will be competing with a cardi record in the marketplace it matters none that cardi has never released the album atlantic is spending

to have cardi in the marketplace kaiser gonna kill herself if she's pregnant? Okay, we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. Back to Sway Lee for a minute. Black China sucked him off and his girl left him, so do we care? Let's get into the news. Black China is sucking everyone off. Let's get into the news.

To the point that people are arguing about whose dick it is. That's nuts To my point of You gotta be doing some work To my point of Niggas will sit through Some whack head

When y'all told me I was crazy for saying that Wait who said the blank Oh yeah oh yeah Y'all killed me for saying That niggas will sit through Whack head Sway Lee is 17

I don't care how old he is Niggas will sit through Whack head Oh please I sat through Man whack head at 17 I didn't even know It was whack

I was excited. Yeah. For her. Oh, and she using the teeth. Oh, the scrape. Oh, the scrape. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, what did you do? What did you do back in the day when she was hurting

you, but you didn't know if you could explain it to her? Like, you just had to hold the hurt in. Grip her shoulder. Yeah, come on. Shouldn't hurt to look your way. It shouldn't hurt to look down. That's a whole new meaning for this song right now. Oh, y'all saying this song is one big Blac Chyna sub?

Wait, so Sway Lee is fucking Bl lee is fucking black china now that's nasty i missed that whole news report and i'm glad i didn't know that oh well good thing we have this podcast thanks for breaking that news no sway lee's sway lee's ex-girl put it on snapchat that she can't she came in and busted black china sucking on sway lee's dick so it's over for them. Damn. I was really rooting for them too. Why does everybody fuck the same girls? Ask the rapper in the room.

Retired rapper. Joe, why does everybody fuck the same girls? I thought Maul was the rapper in the room. Maul, why does everybody fuck the same girls? Why do all rappers do that? Because rappers are groupies for groupies. You guys got Maul started with a mallism. It's the truth. It's the truth.

He's not wrong. They share stories about these women when they see each other. And then when they're no longer dating them, they're like, I want to see what are you talking about? That's weird. I mean, but they're not taking none of these women seriously. They are wifing these joints. They are holding hands on Instagram. Yeah, but that's not really the wifing anymore.

The wifing to me is when they have a couple years in together. That's like, okay, that's really his girl. But three, four months? This is the perfect segue for you to just start asking Maul those questions that we thought of earlier. Oh, when do you move in with a girl? Yeah. That's a clear transition. No, it's not.

Maul's dropping all his woman woman knowledge when do you move in? yeah when when do you think is an appropriate time to move in? how long how long would you have to be with her?

not you per se I mean that's that's always tricky because I feel like you don't really know someone until you live with them I feel like you find out

so much more about a person when you live with them so I'm saying I would think you would have to be dating or together for at least a year before you move in. But you're going to find out. You're going to learn more about this person in living with them. It's definitely a total difference in just dating.

And then she goes home or you go to her house and then you leave. When you're 24, not 24-7, but at least 10, 12 hours out of a day in the same house, it's different. All right. So here's some news for you since you guys don't keep up on who's fucking who. Happily. Spill the tea. Only because we were just talking about Tinaje last week.

So now Tinaje, they say she's doing something with Ben Simmons. So I have two hot tips. One, I want their couple name to be Benage. I'm rolling, okay. And two. Or Tenements, whatever. Whatever you prefer. Tenements. and two or tenements whatever tenements I can see why

more album never came out tenements my other take away from this is oh man I hate to do it but I'm jealous you're jealous I'm hating word I'd love to go to some Sixer games.

Wait, you're not jealous. Wait, hold on. About who? Yeah, you're not jealous of Tanaji, are you? Pause. Pause. Yeah, no. Tanaji now goes on the list with Christina Milian.

Let me see who else is on this list. Oh, man. Oh, everybody's quiet. Wait, what's the list? What's the list? What's on the list? Yo, bro, you know this fucking list. Oh, everybody's quiet. What's the list? What's the list? Yo, bro, you know this fucking list. We do this list all the time.

Refresh my memory. What's the list? All right, give me a minute and let me think of some other names I can't say. The list of, all right, when my music career seems to be dwindling. You'll get an athlete. Yes. Oh, okay. Oh, that list is hefty.

That's a long list. Christina Milian kind of went with what she was trying to do. She was trying to be an actress. She was with Nick Cannon. She was trying to be an artist. She was with Cool Andre. I don't know which one. When she wanted a child, She was with Kool and Dre. I don't know which one. When she wanted

a child, she was with Lil Wayne. She was with Kool and Dre. I think for a minute, Kool and Dre stopped kicking it over that shit. All of this shit is just rumors, so don't go at Kool and Dre. Do they have separate Twitter accounts?

Listen, if Clayton Ortiz could fuck City and High, then... We won't have any Claudette slander in my presence. She did, though. You can 100% be. We will not talk about that.

But you can be. She fucked the other nigga in City and High. Listen, man. She fucked the guy from Sister Act 2 and then his friend. No, but he was cool because he was in Sister Act 2, but the friend? Hey, no Claudette Slander, please. Y'all know how I feel about Claudette. She is beautiful, and she still looks great.

She another one. Thank you. That still looks great. Thank you. Remember when they said City Eye was like the next Fugees? Nobody said that. But then they kind of. No, somebody The next Fugees Nobody said that But then they kind of No somebody did say that

Someone definitely said that And then they had the same path Of fucking people To ruin the group So I guess they were The new Fugees Damn Wait

This was always The funniest song At any rate I love this song Wait Hold up Hey Wait

I know you know The whole chorus too Boys and girls Wanna hear a true story First of all Don know The whole chorus too Boys and girls Wanna hear a true story First of all Don't start no song With boys and girls Boys and girls

I'm playing this Into the hook I don't care If y'all had enough Remember the Nate Dogg remix Roy plays this On his little

Title playlist No no no I've done Caramel I've done Caramel. I've thrown in there. Not this one. I do that, too. Wait, here we go.

Wait, you guys have the other City High song? Caramel's hard. The Eve remix. You bugging. Yeah. And Claudia, she was rapping that shit. No, Parks was fucking... Parks was doing some digging in the crate shit back then.

Hell yeah. Wait, hold up now. I was trying to talk about this song before y'all kept talking over it. More hating. Wait, what verse is this? I kept talking over it. More hating. Wait, what part is this? I'm waiting. Where's the chorus? Keep going.

That's his last, that's his last six, six he getting off of. Let him get his last six off. He's heading in with it. You don't have to do this. All right, here we go. Chorus time.

All right. Because he's hungry. is time. Alright. Because he's hungry. Because he's hungry. Why is there a kid on the floor? What the fuck was City High thinking? Wait, why is this song full of stupid ass questions? Listen, listen.

Wait a minute. We're not going to do this to Claudette. Hey Claudette, let me tell you what I would do if my son was all alone crying on the floor because he's hungry. What the fuck

do you think I would do? I have a heart. Listen, no Claudette slander please. Thank you. That's like when I see the commercials of the fucking Sally Struthers and they fucking showing you all the animals that's dying. That's like when I see the commercials of the fucking Sally Struthers and they fucking showing you all the animals that's dying.

It's like, for 75 cents, you can have Oscar the Wild Lion. He can be ready. And I'm like, first of all, who the fuck

is taking Oscar the Wild Lion? Number one. And number two, these niggas is fucking dangerous animals. You just spent a million on this commercial Just give him some food

You standing right there Whose recording is what I'm saying Who's taping these niggas You got fucking Oscar bleeding all on the camera Anyway That's how I feel about that City High song It's full of stupid questions But if she fuck both of them niggas

She's fucking Maul Maul could be in City High Listen We not talking about Claudette Yo what is it stupid questions, but if she fucked both of them niggas, she's fucking Maul. Maul could be in City Eye. Listen. We not talking about Claudette. Yo, what is it? Because, man, I'm thinking about what Lauren was...

All right. We can't do Lauren like that. I brought up the Erykah Badu thing and don't do it with Lauren. They kill me for that. All these songs just... It's not about energy.

Energy. It's about energy. I'm getting off of this where's my fucking phone y'all ain't getting me in trouble uh what else is funny oh did y'all see the video did y'all see the video now before we get to the video fox is running that uh i'm all over the place today but it's fine fox is running that uh they're running that old interview that they did with oj when they paid him and jammed him up. I think that is so tasteless.

That is some bullshit. I was going to say, this is the first time I might ever be rolling with Fox News. You don't want to see it? Get the fuck out of here. They're going to squeeze the juice out of OJ for real. Yeah, enough is enough. Y'all know OJ needed that check, so he was up there wowing for it.

That's all that shit is about. That's all that shit is about. They're not supposed to be able to. I'm telling you, I get mad when Love & Hip Hop show all the old reruns. I love that shit. But before the new season starts. I cancel plans when they have your season up there. Thanks, Rory.

Appreciate it. Yeah, they shouldn't be able to dig up my old shit. I might subscribe to Hulu Just so I could demand Put it on So not that I'm going to feel bad for Who the fuck was I talking about OJ but I just think It's a little fucked up

You're not going to watch them You don't think it was fucked up that he tried to write a book That was if I were to do it You don't think that was That was his press push No I think He was offered a You don't think that was fucked up? That was his press push. No, I think he was offered a lot of money and he was broke with legal fees. Yeah, what would you do if your son was at home?

What would you do? This is what OJ said. Is that really a me? I'm in to hit this one. I meant to hit that one. We gotta delete that though. Alright, I'll delete it. I'll delete it later.

That's crazy. People are gonna get the wrong idea about this podcast. It's been a few little wild weeks in a row. Alright, let's see. I didn't mean to talk about fucking OJ that long. Oh, Columbus Short gets one year in jail

over domestic violence. The actor? Yeah. Damn. No, the other Columbus Short you know. Joey Lawrence, Jennifer, we don't know who he was talking about. Columbus Short The actor Who has been beating

People up for a few years now I was gonna say I thought he beat like 10 cases and was fine Yeah he beat up The whole Scandal Squad They got his ass Off of Scandal

That was the Scandal But anyway Behind the BTS Hey But this is the only reason I wrote it down This is the Scandal You don't see

Well this is the real Scandal Hey it down. This is the scandal you don't see. Well, this is the real scandal. Hey, ladies. Y'all trying to keep it on the low, man. But I ain't going to let y'all. Y'all got to own up to this one, man. Columbus Short. He was the first Michael B. Jordan.

You're not wrong. They was all trying to fuck Columbus Short. Come on. I can't be the only one to notice it. You're not wrong. I remember. And now, all of a sudden they won't stand by his side now nobody wanna fuck him

now they won't stand by his side I saw a lot of chicks with a Stomp the Yard DVD that didn't like stomping or the yard Stomp the Yard was hard wasn't Pump It Up in that? I think it was

no that was in You Got Served Pump It Up was in any movie where dudes are stomping and dancing don't do that every time I'm at a game and I hear that record I really was in You Got Served. Pump It Up was in any movie where dudes are stomping and dancing. Don't do that. Every time I'm at a game and I hear that record,

I really, it annoys me. I just want you to know. When they start throwing the towels and the t-shirts and shit in the stands and they play that shit. You don't get hype on that.

No. You don't get hype. I don't know. I hate hearing that shit. Imagine Maul at a game just chilling and then getting hype. I hate hearing that record.

I'm like, turn that shit off, man. But you know what? I can imagine Maul at a game just chilling and then getting hype. I hate hearing that, Reg. I'm going to turn that shit off, man. But you know what? I can imagine Maul at a game getting hype. Pop locking and shit. No. You know damn well that's not happening. But you don't get hype on the...

No. No. What about the do your thing part? No. No. That is a funny part. Wait, I wrote that. It's one of the funnier bridges. I wrote that part for you to get hype. You didn't write that part for me to get hype. That is a funny part. Wait, I wrote that. It's one of the funnier

bridges. I wrote that part for you to get hyped to. You didn't write that part for me to get hyped to. You're like, shit. No, you didn't. Do your thing.

No, no, no, no, no. Not do your thing? Not do my thing. Do your thing, Maul? Do your thing? Do your thing, Maul. I'm cool. Maul is a hater.

I'm a hater. Me. Damn, I was about to say something funny. Fuck. No, I'm going to remember my shit. You really like the word Ma

In your first album He still likes the word Ma He the only one keeping Ma alive He's the only one keeping Ma alive Him and Remy Did Cameron steal your Ma swag? Do you have a thing? What's up with you?

What? You keep bringing us back to me and Remy somehow No cause her name is Remy Ma I caught the bar, but... Yeah. Nobody says the Ma. Not anymore, but... Pause this.

Oh, that's what I was going to say. No pause, no pause. You're fucking... So I got a picture in here of you. I showed you the picture? Of me? Yeah, nigga. I got mad pictures of you.

You know what else? Here we go. Where's the photos? Yo, don't categorize my photos for me. What is this shit that I voted doing? Oh,

man. I should be telling you exactly where you was. Today? I don't got past memories. Oh, now when you go too far and it does that shit. I don't want to hear That shit be telling you exactly where you was. Today? Past memories. Oh, no, when you go too far and it does that shit? Yeah, you got to go to the movies.

I don't want to hear my past memories. I've been deleted that shit. Yeah, I don't want to remember that shit. Yeah, my phone, one day I looked at it, it was me and my homeboy. They had like a collage with music of us. I said, what the fuck type of gay shit is this? Like, I've never done this to my pictures. There we go, right there.

Oh, at Barstool, yeah. Maul, Maul, and good old David. Yeah. This is a picture of Maul on the Barstool sports basketball summer win a million dollars team. Yeah, that was the TBT tournament. Did you win? No, we lost in the finals. No, they lost.

Don't throw the finals in there. You just, you lost. It was. It was the final game. But you didn't win. No, yeah, you're right. So that's the end. Don't tell us exactly where you lost finals. Nah, they lost. Don't throw the finals in there. You just, you lost. It was. It was the final game. But you didn't win. No, yeah, you're right. So that's the end. Don't tell us exactly where you lost at.

I wasn't playing. I was, you know, assistant, coach. Okay. One day I'm going to tell a funny story about how I lost like $4 million and how this picture is like really angering me. Wait, what? Why is that picture angry? One day I'm going to tell you. One day I'm going to tell you

One day I'm going to tell you Dave looked like y'all lost too No that's not the game we lost though That's not the game we lost So this is the game y'all won Yeah because it's only Once you lose a game you out No I know how it goes

But what I'm saying is Y'all won this game And you on the bench Doesn't look like much precipitation Falling from your forehead Did you play in this game? No, I just said assistant coach. Why would I be playing? Can you tell us your coaching strategy?

So you wasn't like a coach player? You guys did a 2-3, box one. We had a really good team, man. We should have won that shit. But the coaching was bad. If you had a really good team and you should have won and didn't, it was the coaching. The assistant coaching.

We only had I I think, seven players. I didn't ask you for your whole team. I'm telling you why we lost. We only lost because the team we were playing in the chip, they had like 12 players. The owner had too much control of the team. Our team got tied down there. Why didn't you play?

Salary cap was off. Your assistant coach did like clap for you. All right, good play, good play. Hey. All right, bring it in, guys. All right, come on. Bring it in, bring it in, bring it in. Who was the head coach? All of that. No, like clapped for you. All right, good play, good play. Like, hey. All right, bring it in guys. All right, come on,

bring it in, bring it in, bring it in. Who was the head coach? All of that. No, you clapped

for the head coach. Ross. Yeah, my man Ross. Hell yeah. I'm still mad about that. Were there practices or did y'all just go?

Nah, we had one little bullshit like meet up before the tournament started. A walkthrough? Yeah. But all of the dudes

on our team was like pros. They don't need no practice. Oh, okay. If we would have had more players, we would have won that tournament. We just got tired.

All right, so let's keep it sports real quick. Here's some news. You know, I don't very often like to get serious on this podcast, but sometimes it is a must. And they're talking about the work environment over there at ESPN. That's what they're talking about now. I know I've been talking about the work environment over there as it pertains to First Take because I don't think that Stephen A. and Molly are getting along,

but this is a more serious subject matter. Apparently there's an old reporter who is suing espn uh saying that the work environment well you know all the shit that they say right uh in her suit lawrence describes espn as a company rife with misogyny and points to several alleged incidents to make her point uh so she points to one incident about Jamel Hill and Chris Berman. So that's really why I'm bringing this up, because she's targeting Chris Berman in this thing that I read here. And this is wrong of me, because you're not supposed to be judgmental.

But anytime I see Chris Berman, I think he's a creep, and he says nigger in his house. Damn. That's a creep, and he says nigger in his house. Damn. That's a lot, but I mean. That's how I feel when I see Chris Berman. He gives me some of that. Yeah, there's a vibe. There's definitely some nigger vibe.

Hardy R vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's old football. That's how I feel, and I could be totally wrong, and if I am, I apologize. But in this thing here it says lawrence claims hill notified espn executive uh uh oh in early 2016 espn's the undefeated personality jamel hill received a threatening and racially disparaging voicemail from berman on her espn phone line lawrence claims hill notified espn executive

marcia keegan who oversaw Hill's show, his and hers. But ultimately, nothing was done. When you hear these types of things, you have to take it with a grain of salt because the lady was let go of. So she doesn't feel the best. But this is what this is what the report went on to say. It said, according to the suit, male executives and talent at ESPN keep scoreboards naming female colleagues they are targeting for sex. I'm going to repeat that. at ESPN keep scoreboards naming female colleagues they are targeting for sex.

I think that happens in a lot of companies, not just ESPN. Probably so. It also alleges that men openly watch porn on their computers and have made comments in Lawrence's presence like wondering what Rihanna must taste like.

Porn in the workplace seems a little weird. And that's where I'm going to stop this. Why do you want to be boned up at a desk, you know? I think that a suit should be filed against any man that has never thought about what Rihanna must taste like. Listen, Rihanna doesn't work there. I don't think that should constitute conduct detrimental to the workplace. Well, let's not ignore all the shit that was said before the Rihanna comment. Yeah, the porn in the office is weird.

And putting up a chart about trying to fuck other women in the office is not okay. A scoreboard, though. Well, they're in the ESPN. They like sports. But that's why I repeated that line. Somebody up there has to know that. And I don't know. And I don't allege that this is happening.

But somebody has to know that the scoreboard is probably a bit overboard. Just a tad. That shit is excessive so uh yeah that's all i want to say about that one well i will go on record and say i have wondered what rihanna tastes like but i think all the wondered what rihanna tastes like i spent way too much time thinking about what you're going to taste like. Yeah, that's fine. But that other stuff is terrible. You're a sick man, all of you. All of us, right? All of yous. All of yous. All of us are the sick men.

What else interesting is happening? Oh, shit. Did y'all see the video of Homeboy? Homeboy, when he was cheating on his chick and he was trying to buy the side chick some groceries

because, you know what I mean, she was hungry. He wasn't cheating. She was on the bathroom floor crying. Buying her groceries When he was cheating on his chick and he was trying to buy the side chick some groceries because, you know what I mean, she was hungry. He wasn't cheating. She was on the bathroom floor crying. Buying her groceries with his family's food stamps. Did you see that video, Moe? Is this a real video?

No, it's a real video. No, I didn't see this video. Well, I'll give you a back story. A gentleman was with his side chick and they were in a rather long grocery line and then his wife then walked into the grocery store and told everyone that he was buying her groceries with their food stamps okay yeah that's definitely fake i saw that you think yeah that's a spoof that's one of them spoof videos. You think this is a spoof? Yes, Joe. Why do you think this is a spoof?

Who videotapes the grocery store? Yeah, like this. I thought that was someone like just a person. No, that's a spoof. People are doing that just for that wasn't real. Ain't nothing spoofish about this video. Alright, well let's pretend it's not. It's not.

I'm like that. I'm so mature, man. pretend it's not. Yeah. I'm like that. I'm like that. I'm like that. I'm like that. I'm like that. I'm like that. I'm like that. I'm like that.

I'm so mature, man. Get the fuck out of here and make jokes with us. I'm not going to laugh. That shit is corny. I don't like, I don't, those videos don't,

I don't laugh at those videos. I'm sorry. Now, if that was real, to me, that's funny. But you can tell that's fake. They're just doing that. Those Instagram personalities, man,

they're just, you know, trying to get clicks and views. Well, I think people are corny that do that. Yeah, they personalities, man. They're just trying to get clicks and views. Well, I think people are corny that do that. Yeah, they do. But you know when it's real, though. So you don't buy your side chick groceries? I thought that was real.

No. You've never bought the side chick groceries. You asking me that? Come on, man. You know better than that. Have you bought her a sandwich? What I'm saying is this Women

Women right Women Cause I'm gonna pretend That video was real And if that lady Was really hungry Then why the girl What are you gonna do

When your side chick's at home On the bedroom floor Cause she's hungry Oh my God. And the only way to feed her is steal a food stamp from your wifey. And her daddy's going.

That's a lookout. I ain't gonna lie. The side chick should be pretty appreciative and grateful. Listen, he may have just watched the God's Plan video and was feeling a little bit generous. Drake went into the grocery store

and said everything on me. Give me some of the things that you should be able to do with your side chick that involves something that belongs to your girl but your girl be wildin'. Your girl be wildin'. What are some of the violations that, yeah, it's a violation

but come on, you should understand a little bit. Well, first of all, you're trying to get a girl to be understanding of the side chick to begin with. It's a crazy battle. I see girls get really mad at that. Well, this was a while ago, a few years ago, at the boyfriend that would drop the girlfriend off to her job in her car

and then go hang out with the side chick in her car. I always felt like the guy should get a pass for that. Like, you're at work. You don't need a car. You can't use your car. Did he put gas in it? Did he put gas in it at least? He should put some gas, vacuum it out.

Well, I mean, if he's considerate. Yeah. And if he's a true king. If he has integrity. A true king. Only a true king. Wait, something else happened real funny. Oh, Stevie J's going to jail.

It's mad funny. Wait, why is Stevie J going to jail? I don't give a fuck about any of this shit, but it's funny. Why is Stevie J going to jail? Oh, child support? Yeah, see, the only nigga with over a million dollars owed in child support. He is not. He is not.

He is not. Oh, well, no. He's not the only. Well, okay, he's not the only person with over a million in child support. Yeah, definitely not. He the only person with over a million in jail. Yeah, definitely not. He's the only one. I feel like my dad might have owed a million and made some type of deal where he was still in my life. I was just about to say, I feel like Stevie is the only one going to jail for Calvary.

Yeah, he's the only one going to jail for arrears. He's a murderer. That's crazy. What lawyer did he have? Himself. You're supposed to be able to beat arrears. Don't they usually just take your ID or something, like your passport? You can't leave like the...

And then, shit, if you got to pay the million, then you got to face with some tough questions and decisions. Like, all right, do I love the kid? How much do I really... Do I plan on... How do you owe a million dollars in child support, though Do I plan on How do you owe a million dollars In child support though I don't feel like you spend A million dollars on your kid

Yeah but Now that you're telling me I owe it I mean You made a lot of money How cool is the kid Can I just spend time in jail And not pay it off

If the kid ain't cool nigga I'm keeping my mill Spend a mill on a lawyer. No need to hand this over to a failure. Because he do his chores. I'm joking, of course. I'm joking, of course. I'm joking.

Please don't get extra serious. I tried to go a whole podcast without talking about Saquon Barkley because I've been having nightmares about him. I've been having nightmares about him. Dude, Joe, he's not going to the Giants. I've been having nightmares about Saquon Barkley. I feel like for the last seven months, I've periodically just asked random people how they feel about Saquon Barkley, and nobody wanted to talk to me.

Nobody gave a fuck. Nobody, eh, it's cool. I mean, where's he from again? But I didn't care. I was like, all right, cool. Nobody's on him, really. And now after the Columbine. Columbine.

The Columbine joke. And also after Columbine. It was after Columbine. Thank you very much. Because this was after Columbine. That's true. After the Columbine and Combine. After the Columbine and the Combine.

Okay. So after the shooting in Colorado 20 years ago and the Combine this past week. He's a really good football player. We learned that. Now. Now we know. Now everybody wants to talk about Saquon Barkley. I ain't going to lie.

I'm a little perturbed about it. About Columbine or about his Combine performance? About everybody wanting to talk about Saquon Barkley now. And not gun control. Why do you keep trying to bring up gun control? Columbine would not have to do a gun control. Snapple fact

I saw. They said that police officers have like an 18% kill rate. What does that mean? More accuracy rating with a gun. They were trying to say, well, you shouldn't give a gun to a teacher. If the cops don't... The trained police.

Listen, if one of my teachers had a gun when I was in school, I definitely wouldn't be sitting here with you. 100%. Do you know how many shootings would be happening? Teachers are ornery. That's like the worst idea ever in the history of mankind. Teachers' guns. wouldn't be sitting here with you gentlemen. 100%. Do you know how many shootings would be happening? Teachers are ornery. That's like the worst idea ever in the history of mankind. Teachers' guns. Mr. Ford would have shot me.

And Ms. Watermelon actually. Now Ms. Watermelon loves me. How many teachers that like me, Ms. Watermelon? Like the actual fruit? Yes, like the actual fruit. Watermelon. Gotcha.

What else was there important? I feel like something was important Cash Dolls in New York That's pretty important I thought she was from New York No Oh no she's from Atlanta She's from Detroit

Okay My bad boy That's not really That's not really what I was talking about What is she in New York for? Seymour You know Working on some things

You flew out Working on some things. You flew out? I'm working on some things. We're working. We're building. Yeah, not going to link and build? Yeah.

Y'all got something on the way? Link and build tour. Are you guys finished with this bullshit y'all talking about? My bad. We're just getting the scoop, but carry on. This is bullshit

compared to everything we've talked about? Yes, I'm trying to talk about Joey Lawrence and Saquon Barkley. Joey Lawrence. What do y'all think? Hold on. Joey Lawrence was definitely an NSYNC.

No, he was not an NSYNC, Maul. Okay. You don't even know. You're out of sync. Okay. He has no idea who was an NSYNC. I asked Parks already. Does anybody, is any...

Maul doesn't like the NFL. Maul's boycotting baseball or some shit. I don't know what Maul is doing. We don't care what Maul's doing. Parks already told me that the Browns should take Zaquan Barkley, number one. Well, it's the Browns, so we don't know, but they should, they should.

To add to their long list of terrible draft picks? Yeah. I don't think he's any Isaiah Crowell, who is actually decent, by the way. But he's going to the Browns. Doug Martin was decent, too, for a little bit. That's the Bucs, but. Well, he was decent for a little bit. He was better than decent for a little bit.

And now he's not. That's true. Running backs have a short life. I'm not going to talk about Saquon Barkley with you, but I don't think he should go number one to the Browns. You think he should go number two to the Giants? Well, yeah. Me too, but.

If the Browns had an Eli Manning or if they had a quarterback, then I would say take him. But I can't imagine, like I already expressed to you, I can't imagine the Browns are okay with looking at Deshaun Watson and looking at Carson Wentz and then not having the pick of the litter when it comes to quarterbacks in a deep quarterback draft when you're blessed enough to have the first pick. They're going to fuck it up, so they might as well take the sure shot

with the running back and then go for the quarterback. Yeah, but then you only get seven years. I'm not spending my number one pick only to get seven years. I'd rather get 14, 15 years from a quarterback. But again, that's logical thinking. That's a shot in the dark to get a 14, 15 year career from a quarterback that you're drafting. That's not a shot in the dark. That doesn't happen very often.

Look around the league. Half of the quarterbacks in the league have been playing for 10 to 15 years. With the same team they was drafted to? Yeah. A lot of them, but. Yeah. But there's also a lot of turnover. There's a lot of turnover.

And even if they're not on the team that drafted them, I can right now name over 12 quarterbacks that have been playing for over 10 years. Easy. 12? Easily. Over 10 years? Yes. I'm not going to say yes or no. I don't know about 12.

That were drafted to the team. Let's do 10. Matt Ryan was drafted to the Falcons. But that wasn't 10 years. Brady, Roethlisberger, no. Matt Ryan is not 10 years old. No, he's not. Savon, look up when Matt Ryan was drafted.

He's not 10 years. I'm telling you that right now. Well, let's look at the old niggas. Tom Brady is there. Eli Manning is there. But he wasn't drafted to the Saints. He wasn't drafted to the Giants. Phillip Rivers.

That's not what I'm just talking about. Quarterbacks that are... That have been there for 10 years. That's it. Okay. Eli Manning. I was talking about the draft, because that's what we were talking about.

It's 10 years this year. So that is 10 years. Matt... This year hasn't started yet. That should be easy. My point is I think the norm now is 10 years. It's the norm now. Where's Andrew Luck at? That's not an anomaly.

You're naming a nigga that was hurt coming out of college. Andrew Luck? Yes. Well, he did work shortly afterwards and then got hurt again. Right. No, I'm actually going to your point that he has been with Indianapolis for quite some time. I'll leave this alone until there's more to discuss. I am going to cry my fucking eyes out if the Browns take Saquon Barkley.

It's going to happen. Well, maybe not. They'll probably Browns it up and take... What's his name from... Dog, they drafted Johnny Manzo. Right. They're capable of anything. Well, this is what I was telling Parks.

Outside of Carson Wentz and fucking Deshaun Watson, what I was saying to him is, what teams, the amount that teams trade for to get that type of pick, shit, what Cleveland has already traded for to get that type of pick in the past, they just can't afford it. They are the one team that can't afford that type of mistake again. That's why they got to pick Barkley.

They have made it too many times, which is exactly why you don't pick the stud running back with the number one pick in the draft. You pick the sure shot if I'm Cleveland. Let's see. What else? The Marlon Wayans special that the entire group chat said was hilarious. That shit was trash.

I didn't get it. I didn't get it. I didn't see it. I didn't. I got 15 minutes in. I tried to tell you. I didn't finish it. I don't even know why y'all even gave that time.

Because the group chat said it was hilarious. The group chat said it was good. Ice said it was hilarious. Ice in the same nigga that recommended me all the Tyler Perry TV shows to watch. Like the shows, not the Madeas. Like he's the only nigga that is watching the show, scripted Tyler Perry shows. I didn't know those existed. Like the ones, like family dramas.

He's watching those. Ice, you can't recommend nothing in the group chat no more. You and B with the takeout. It's over for y'all. B with the takeout. Yeah, that Marlon Wayans special, I'm not going to diss it because him and I had some friction a long time ago, but it just wasn't for me. Well, you know what? It was what I expected it to be, but people told me that it was better than I expected it to be.

And it was not. I haven't watched it yet. It's just not my brand of comedy. It's very safe. Yeah, it's very safe dated comedy, it seems like. What I did watch on Netflix, I watched a show called The Push. And it's one of those, I don't know. It's not a psychological thriller, but they're using humans as like lab rats and doing a test to see if they can get a human to kill somebody.

Nice. Okay. That seven seconds is tough. Seven seconds is great. Can we talk about it now? I don't really care I'm only like I'm only like 6 weeks

6 deep it's really good though I thought the ending was appropriate I don't understand why people hated the ending I'm gonna plug my ears now that's what I was saying

last week when you told me not to talk about it well I'm not saying what happened I'm just saying I thought it was appropriate I know but now

I don't want to talk about it did y'all watch Atlanta yeah I did I thought it was a great I know, but now I don't want to talk about it. Did y'all watch Atlanta? Yeah, I did. I thought it was a great first episode. And I thought Cat Williams was great in it. Florida Man is very funny. Of course, both of y'all thought that. You didn't think it was funny? I didn't see it. Joe has been hating on Atlanta since its inception.

How can I hate on something? I haven't seen it. You do that. But I've been watching it. You definitely do. You do that. You definitely don't see things and still hate on it. But I was watching some of the people I know that are huge fans of the show, and I ain't seen them really. I don't care what they said. I thought that first episode was hilarious.

I know you're one of those. That's why I never want to talk to one of those. Somebody who's just going to think that some shit they like is hilarious no matter what happens. Wait, what? You're one of those. One of those what? I found it hilarious, so I said it was hilarious?

It wasn't hilarious. Did you see it? No. All right, see, you're hating on something you didn't see. Point proven. All right, so you and Parks are the only two people I've heard say that it was a great episode. And I'm saying I don't particularly care what everyone else is saying. I'm saying I thought it was great.

Okay, so if you had to judge it by the vantage point of someone else or the viewpoint of someone else, how would you judge it? How would you say the reception was for the first episode? I was moving when it aired. I didn't see what anyone said. I watched it two days later. I didn't watch it when it came out. So I have no idea what people said about it.

All right, I'm going to go watch it. I'm going to go watch it. Watch the first season. For no other reason. I watched the first season. Oh, okay. And I told you my takeaway with the first season. It's not, it's good.

It's just not, I wasn't, you know, not for me. Yeah, it's not your style of show. Yeah, that's what I mean. He's still a little talented, but it's just not for me. I love Curb and that type of shit, so it's up my alley. What type of shit? Like Curb. Dark, dark humor?

Yeah, like dry, that weird type of shit. curb dark dark humor yeah like dry that weird type of shit i like curb i don't think atlanta and curb is like the same type of obviously completely different worlds but i still think at the end of the day it's got that weird observational dry atlanta's more like look at life it's more like louis to me very much yeah very like Louis. Which I liked. What do y'all think? We didn't talk about the Royce and 2 Chainz record. I mixed it. I loved it. I'm done with you.

I'm sorry. It's hard. I was just about to bring up how bad the mixing was on it. This is why our podcast be so long. I don't know how to read the time on this.

I'd be trying to add in my head. What is this saying? Two hours and 18 minutes. Two hours and 28 minutes Man if you don't get the fuck out Man where are the sleepers? I ain't in here just talking to me talking

What you want me to say bro? I'm listening to y'all talk about Saquon Barkley 17 minutes No no that's a big deal I would have liked to delve into that a little more But yeah come on get in sleepers Fuck this shit

Yo my. My mom is an asshole, right? Oh, do I have a sleeper? Let me look. There it is. That's your sleeper. Yo, so I don't have furniture in my crib yet for my move, so my mother just texted me, how's everything going with unpacking? Do you want me to bring you

a couple of those padded folding chairs so you have something to sit on? I said, no, I got it under control. She says, can't wait to see what this control is. My mom is a dick. That's pretty funny. Thanks, Mom. I know you listen to this podcast, too. Alright, so I guess I will go first. Let's see

here. I am going to play a record by alex isley because i like alex isley and this song is called when it rains and this is off of the beauty of everything ep part one Everything EP Part 1. This record has my, it's that vibe I like. It's my diddy bop right here. I dream of all the things I'd never do All the choices that I didn't choose Do you know where it all goes? Who's to say where it all goes?

Who's to say where it all goes? Whether the weather feels hot or cold Always new leaves turn in your dome Do you know where the wind blows? Who's to know where the wind blows? Skies will change, the sun remains Still I'll be grateful, thankful When it rains, worries wash away Blue weather was great It's really okay

When it rains Go along your way, the way to grow You feel it all so near, so very close, yeah It'll come, come into view It'll come, to pass with you The bigger picture may not be too clear You'll have to figure out what happened here All time All time

Let's get to the blue Skies will change The sun remains Still I'll be grateful, thankful When it rains, yeah when it rains Worries wash away, oh wash away Blue weather was great, oh wash away Blue weather was great Oh wash away

It's really okay When it rains Won't you turn around Which way you looking now Many ups and downs Which way you looking now Won't you turn around, which way you're looking now. Many ups and downs, which way you're looking now. Now. Oh, oh, oh

Scars will change, the sun remains Still I'll be grateful Thankful When it rains Worries wash away Mic one two one two Mic check one two one two You're not about to rap What happened?

You're not about to rap No not at all That was Alex Isley When it rains EP just came out so check that out if you have yet to hear it i clean up to that record in the morning i like it thanks rory it's pretty cool artwork too thank you I was complimenting her I didn't design it or anything

I was complimenting the artist I guess I'll go I'm going to play you need to start going first with all that hardcore shit I'll play some you be trying to end with this hard get that rap shit out the way

well I'm playing rap too so this hard, get that rap shit out the way. Well, I'm playing rap too, though. Oh, so you go. People listen to rap, bro. I know you don't. Yeah, I know. You're right. Maul, do you want to go? No, Maul's rap song is going to be harder than yours.

Absolutely. A thousand percent. Hey, and everybody, don't forget to go check out Rory's brand new playlist right there on Tidal called the Fontagallo Jams. Is that what it's called? I don't know what you called it. I called the Fanta Gello Jams. Is that what it's called? I don't know what you called it. I called it Fanta. I hate Rory tried to be all fucking eclectic with the old picture of him. I hate Rory.

I swear to God I do. That's fine. I don't lose sleep at night knowing that. Anyways, I will be playing something off Fanta's new album. I want to know what some of y'all are going to do when you finally hear the lyrical venom

that Fonte-gillo has coming your way you're trying to pronounce Fonte-gillo I was like what are you saying now I get what you're saying yes Fonte-gillo I got a beef with Fonte in my head, I think.

You do. And I know where it's from. No, it's a real beef. I know. I was thinking what happened. In the event that him and I ever have that conversation, like, boy, that was disappointing. I know you're not going to feel that way because you, like me, were huge fans of Fonté. But, man, that was disappointing.

I was the one pushing for that to happen Fonte more than anybody that was disappointing I am still disappointed over that Fonte but I'm shutting up now

I don't think it's a real piece it's something y'all huh there is a Fonte record talk about ain't nothing to talk about it's not a fucking thing to talk about

he said exactly what he had to say and I heard him okay well anyways with that said I'm gonna play a fonte record uh so this is all his new album and i think it's a record that hasn't really health hasn't really been touching hip-hop and i think uh he touched a point in in this record this is expensive jeans and cry no more jeans being your lineage not expensive actual jeans. Disappointed, Fonte. We need to take you high.

Okay, good. We need to get you weight. I think we can do a lot better now. We're talking to them. Okay. Your cholesterol is still kind of high, but we're going to work on that. Let's take your blood pressure. Take it out, take it out working with that Let's take it from here Are you in any pain?

Seven days in a week Eat a steak, every plate is a feast Watch your weight, no mistakes in the least Or else you too will dig a grave with your teeth I wish that I could fit in these expensive jeans A waistline that'll rip the seams And pharmaceuticals that sit between your heart medicine Cough medicine, blood thinners, and antihistamines

We got an oceanfront view, but the scope is so limited Cause young niggas be dying to old nigga shit Wifey sleeping in the guest room cause you snore at night It's like 40 years old, it's three-quarter life Our biggest fears were shots and armed robberies Now the biggest fears are clocks and oncology Gotta sleep at to tell you you got sleep ap Me all, he all in your sheets with a CPAP Wish that I could fit in these expensive jeans I don't like this cut, it's like the Lord

got my order wrong 3am, stress eating, laying down on it Now your blood sugar is borderline, borderline Seen them rise, I seen them fall I seen the dreams of fiends and scenes of war Inside my mind it ain't nothin' serene It's called blackness, the most expensive gene of all I know it might be a little difficult But you can do it Motherfuckers can't cry no more When you die no more It's crying shame you don't even try no more Black suits, black ties

And obituaries handed out Ashes to ashes after living life Hand them out for death Wish it's cool till it's time to blow the candles out. I need some answers now. Leaving your sons is tantamount to throwing them straight to the wolves. And everybody's saying they'd be different if they had a man around. He loved his work and his women built like a Clydesdale.

Went to the city in search of Supreme clientele. Then back to the country front and like he Mr. Drysdale. Just an illusion of rules and old wives tell While I was in the borough where the dope and the gun work Had the whole hood soundin' like Dunkirk Starin' at my ceiling fan tryin' to be a man Wishin' I had a chance to be his son first You know, it's crazy, cause, like, when I was a kid

My dad used to come pick me up from school You know, he was an executive chef. That's what he did for a living. And, like, when he would bring me to the kitchen, I would be so excited to cook. You know, and he would be like, no, you need to prep. You need to do preparation. And I didn't understand it at the time, but he was teaching me about life. They ask me where I've been, dog.

I've been rebuilding with my whiz and children, put my pops in the ground then hit the repass and ate the same shit that killed them. Your habits didn't deviate, just thought you would appreciate. My moms used to say I was a whore just like you, so mom, I ran through even more just to spite you. And pop, my health is doing pretty good despite you, I try so I don't die at 54 just like you cold. I'm one snowflake away from an avalanche My first teachers were masters of self-sabotage My mama walking slower these days, she got

a stint Still on them new ports, where's your fucking common sense? Pardon my French, I'm just still unconvinced That as young as you are soon I'll be taking care of you I get it, you're the one who did the raising I'm the son, but I'm not ready to cry. Chola rain hands were you you can't undo it You either succumb to it make the adjustment or just become numb to it looking over your life Like what have I done to it knowing your bloodline is the river that runs through it My sons look at me these days and think I'm certified

Preparing them for a world they'll be deserted by Internalized black man, if you get a teaspoon of compassion That's more than double the serving size I get impatient, shit is taking too long They don't get it, I really lived it, you can say what you want Cause by the time you realize that your father was right You probably have your own son telling you that you wrong But be his ride or die, even if you two ain't seein' eye to eye Teach him how to throw a punch, ride a bike, tie a tie That was Fonte, Expensive Jeans, and Cry No More.

He has a great album that everyone should check out. It's a dope album for sure. It's like the blue collar 444. Not in the apology sense but just the way hip hop has aged. It's like the regular guy aging not the Jay-Z aging.

I can't believe that nigga said that stupid shit to me on that phone. I'm not over that still. What he said? It changed my it changed the entire way

I look at Fonte. What he said? We can talk off air about it. Okay. Yeah. I don't think someone needs to talk on the podcast. Shouts to Fonte Who you said? We can talk off air about it Okay Yeah I don't think it's something We need to talk on the podcast Well Shouts to Fonte

Listen I'm about to play Malibu Mitch man I just wanted my favorite New up and coming artist man He's got malls Word I'm fucking with her It's Malibu Mitch

It's called The Count We ain't got a cash record yet That's coming Don't worry about that Nah Berg Play me Shorty's Project Shit is dope.

Uh, yo! Cause all they wanna do is see a real bitch stressed Two, make sure when you walkin' breakin' necks Show em how to move when you walkin' with your set Three, curve a nigga, leave em in the wreck You playin' chess, not checkers, bitch Hit em with a check Four, make a nigga give you a respect Better kick em to the left if he runnin' with the next Five, bet that nigga tryna make it work

Now he wanna nag you till that pussy lift his skirt Six, now you livin' large Whippin' out the Porsche with a four-door garage Rollin' like the mob, changin' your facade Seven, cook to smack a bitch with a Mac 11 Always been the way we livin', Loopy McAvely Got your mans in the corner hatin' Athangelus Ayy, tell your mama now you chillin' with the fellas

Ride or die, do em dirty, totin' like the fellas Nine, now you gritty, clever, light like a feather Shots pop off, hope the leather don't miss your sweater Run down Queen, make that hoe come out her leather And I bet they never wanna see Mitch again Now you're nobody till somebody kills you And you ain't poppin' if nobody feels you And we give em no options, they in the rear view

You be talkin' all that rah-rah, we know the real you Now you're nobody till somebody kills you And you ain't poppin' if nobody feels you And we give em no options They in the rear view You be talking all that We know the real you That's Malibu Mitch, the count. Yeah, she's nice.

BX shit. I'm fucking with her. She's talented. Now you like Bronx MCs that are girls. I'm fucking with you. Yeah, I do. That was a good one.

Hit my little drum pad thing for that one. All right, fellas. Looks like we made it through another one, man. Round of applause. We made it through. I hope everybody is staying indoors and staying warm uh big snow storm supposed to be hidden uh this doesn't apply if you're in miami and la like everybody i follow everybody follows in miami and la it's amazing uh what else happened oh one more thing about

that oscars and them getting it right they did did leave Della Reese out of the whole rest in peace artist that we lost moment that they did. And that was a pretty big blunder. But I'll give him a pass for that. And I think that's everything. That's everything. Stay tuned this Friday. Oh, Highline Ballroom March 15th that's next week

over the night we are back so if you don't have tickets they are still available if you need something to listen to Rory has curated a great playlist

for you right over there at Tidal that Elliot will pick you up in a car and test it out test it out make sure everything is going swell

that's funny. And what else do we have to leave with? Do say Palooza in Atlanta, April 21st. Tickets are on sale. And then we announce New York at Hammerstein Ballroom on May 19th. Do say Palooza.com for tickets. We also have Friend of the Show merch available still. If you're watching on YouTube, subscribe.

And after thoughts, I guess we'll talk about what kind of soup it was that jr smith threw at dame oh what's up um brandon jennings is what's up can we get an update or what it didn't he wasn't he just balling out did i see that on my timeline in a g league yeah with the bucks well wisconsin g league team yeah got playing pretty well. Did he have better stats than Ice Cube and today was a good day? Yes. They did not. Did he fuck around and get a triple-double?

He just got a triple-double that week. Nobody ever had a triple-double in a fucking game. But fuck it. Ice Cube lied his ass off for years. First of all, keeping your assist stat in a pickup game. That's a thrill. That's crazy. I think that's hard.

No. You would think that's hard. You are the guy. That's my dime. That's my dime. Got it. Get your ass back on defense. I'm far worse than that.

I count hockey assists. Oh, my God. What? Yeah. You play pickup hockey? No, I'm saying in basketball. No, if you pass it to a nigga, that's it. Oh, okay.

If I pass it to you and you pass it to Maul and Maul score, damn it, that's my assist. Joe get really mad when the guy don't point at you after you give him the assist and you score. Yeah. Yeah, or dap me up. Acknowledge me somehow. Fist bump.

Somehow. What was we talking about just now? Oh, the triple-double. Oh, wait. Lastly, before we leave. So, Hove can lose 92 bricks, but you don't believe Ice Cube's triple-double. Well, I know. Never mind.

Oh, you snitching. Oh, you snitching. I haven't said a word. No, no. You a snitch. I ain't no snitch. I haven't said anything. Oh, you was there. You found the bricks. I wasn't nowhere. word. Nah, nah, you a snitch. I ain't no snitch. I haven't said anything. Ah, you was there.

You found the bricks. I wasn't nowhere. You found the... That explains a lot. How you think he bought the chain? Yo, if all of the one that found the bricks, that will explain a lot about you. I didn't find anything.

I don't know what y'all talking about. Found the bricks. Oh, man. What would you do if your son was at home? And you found 92 bricks on the floor. I would leave that nigga if I found 92 bricks. All right. So that was it.

See you guys next week. So long. Got to.