The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 153 | "La di da di da"

Episode Date: March 14, 2018

This week Joe, Rory, and Mal discuss the biggest headlines within the culture starting off with Big Sean and Jhene Aiko’s rumored break-up (15:32). Juelz Santana found himself in an awkward situatio...n this past week which caused him to flee from an airport, the guys discuss (1:10:30). And is Joe disloyal? After Royce da 5’9’s interview on Rap Radar, some are questioning Joe’s loyalty to Eminem. Joe responds to Royce and to those who believe he isn’t loyal(1:31:47). When it’s all said and done, nobody wins when the family feuds. Other topics include: -Cardi B announcing her album release date (43:46) -The guys predict when Drake, Kanye West, and Beyonce will release their albums (52:01) -New music from Jeremih and Wale (1:58:03) Sleeper picks of the week: Rory: Arin Ray (featuring Ty Dolla $ign) “Take” | https://soundcloud.com/arin-ray/take-feat-ty-dolla-ign Joe: Jeremih “Cards Right” | https://soundcloud.com/officialjeremih/cards-right Mal: Vado “Walk” | https://soundcloud.com/user-130187581/vado-walk-freestyle

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Mic check 1, 2, 1, 2, mic check 1, 2, 1, 2 Oh yes Start the Wednesday with some ghosts Let's go ghosts Rest in peace Craig Mack Yo, I'm telling you, turning his mic up will always be hard I turned this on in memory of the great Craig Mack be hard. Hey! I turned this on in memory of the great
Starting point is 00:00:27 Craig Mack. But it's Ghost. Ghost, huh? No, but he's on the remix. He's on it. So his comeback was to this remix. I'ma get to it.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Let's appreciate Ghost for a second. Huh? Always appreciate Ghost. That's what I'm saying. Okay hold up oh shit i fucked it up where is it here we go all right now this is how we want to start this is the remix so let's bring all right that's what i've got. Microphone check. One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Get my air horn right up in this bitch. Let me hit my tag up in here. Let me hit their corny tag up in here. Now. That's actually better than your tag. Sound like some hate right there. I see that Rory retweets anyone who mentions that to him. Like anybody who says that the tag is hard, Lil Rory and all shit, he retweets them for the rest of the day.
Starting point is 00:01:31 It's corny. I don't, but all the people that tell me, I don't. Then over the weekend, Rory was tweeting that his little cousin has an album coming soon. Like this drop is the rollout. Yes, gotta get the streams up. I don't know what's going on, but it's fine. Welcome back to the Joe Budden Podcast, episode number 153. I'm your host, Joe Budden.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Alongside of me are a few of my trusty friends and associates. Small, Parks, Rory, Savon, and Erickson are here. Let me hit the round of applause button to make it seem like I really genuinely care about all of them. Here we go. So now that we got that out of the way, I want to say what up to the YouTube viewership. Hit the little subscribe button. Erickson is bodying that.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Applause for him. Turn up the applause. I want to apologize to anybody who listened last week. I listened back last week and I fucked a lot up last week. That might have been the trashest I've been last week. Dang, what you did? Just as far as the mental state.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I don't know, but I fucking was stuttering, slurring words. Mixed people up with people that were other people. I don't know what was going on last week. No, look what happened to Joey Lawrence when you spoke his name up. Yo, I'm telling you, man. I'm going bankrupt the next day.
Starting point is 00:02:51 The Joe Budden podcast curse continues. Shit, where's the Madden curse? When is the last time you saw Joey Lawrence's name? Apparently, you saw him at the Grammys. Looking great. Looking fine. And, you know Nat When TMZ put up the picture of him going bankrupt
Starting point is 00:03:08 I was like damn Joey Lawrence isn't even looking great Joey Lawrence looks like he's having some trouble But how are you gentlemen doing? I'm good We don't catch up in the front of the podcast anymore We come in and get right to the business Why y'all do that? What's up with y'all?
Starting point is 00:03:25 Get right to the shit. But why? Why not? Because we're friends, number one. Nobody wants to hear about how we're doing. I'm just saying. A nigga told me I better be in here last night recording. I'm like, first of all, we record on Tuesdays, number one.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Don't tell me where to be. You almost feel like, who y'all talking to? I'm having real beef in my DMs a little bit. I DMed Cashdoll. Okay. How'd that go? Machine to reply. Ah.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Okay. What did you say? I left your name out of it. Okay. Thank you. Don't act like we all ain't got them friends. What, the Dirty Macs? He's that throwing a name in some shit.
Starting point is 00:04:04 That's Maul. Maul does that to me. What? Get the fuck out of here He's that throwing a name in some shit. That's Maul. Maul does that to me. What? Get the fuck out of here. He probably used a last name too. Yeah. I act like I don't know Joe. I'm so mad this podcast is viewable now. Viewable. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I don't know Joe. I hate Cash Doll and asked her if she would be open to being a guest on our podcast whenever she is in the New York area. Okay. No response. I would like that. No, not yet.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Okay. I mean, it was just the other day. We'll give it time. How long do you have to give somebody to reply? A couple days is rough. I start sweating in DMs after an hour and a half. Check their profile, see if they tweeted. Well, after a week, I psychologically talk myself into thinking they just don't check their DMs.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Whatever helps. Because after a week, if it doesn't say seen, like if it's still blank underneath. Whatever works. Yo, I hate this nigga. What if it says seen and like it still ain't no reply? That's worse. That's what I was thinking to myself. That's worse.
Starting point is 00:05:03 No, you know what's actually worse than that? No, that's real bad. That is real bad. That's worse. That's what I was thinking to myself. That's worse. No, you know what's actually worse than that? No, that's real bad. That is real bad. That's terrible. You know what's real bad? When you go to a girl's page and then you go to DM her and you see that you DM'd her. Already. And she dubbed you already.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Damn, I got to unsend that one. Word. Does it matter if you unsend it at that point? No right Nah it's over Yeah I didn't think so Well how's everyone doing? Rory came in here
Starting point is 00:05:31 You know with a different bop I had a bop? Well first of all he had the group chat last night To say Hey guys Do you mind doing the podcast A little later tomorrow Because I'm really busy until about 8 p.m.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Right? No? Yeah. He said that. 6, 6.30. He comes in here today with his little white skin, all extra lathered. He's got his little beard butter on. Don't look at me and think lathered ever. I'm just saying. Well, it's not white, it's like a pinkish. That's just because spring is coming.
Starting point is 00:06:02 He's got buttons on the shirts, though. So something important is happening. Maybe some extra SPF this morning. Well, I got to go to Rory's housewarming. Did you have it? No, I didn't yet. And who said you was invited? That's about it.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That's why I asked if you had it. Did you have it? What if he said yeah? Then he would have had it. That would have been the end of that one. All right. So we have a lot to get into. Well, actually, we don't have that much to get into.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So all I ask is that the topics that we have here, we all talk about them together. Like a podcast? Yeah, y'all say that, but I think we're easily on a four-week run of me not knowing what the fuck is going on here. And the fans keep saying, yo, you guys are getting funnier and funnier. Shit, even Imani put in our group chat, this has been the best four-week run y'all ever had. I was like, yo, you guys are getting funnier and funnier. Even Imani put in our group chat, this has been the best four-week run y'all ever had. I was like, shit, was it? I don't know. I've been going home
Starting point is 00:06:51 frustrated. Y'all like it. I love it. Exactly my point. So where do we... Let me see. Where do we begin here? I don't know what is... You know, what's really important here i mean nothing's really oh craig mack duh craig mack how do you we always the songs be throwing
Starting point is 00:07:11 me off a little bit uh i woke up to that news yeah i saw it last night before i went to bed i saw it this morning how you saw it last night he died this morning he died i know i'm talking shit um uh i don't like waking up to that news i don't like waking up to that news I don't like waking up to see people from our culture have passed especially at such a young age you feel like the rappers when you hit that 42
Starting point is 00:07:36 43 44 area this was the second time where I opened my phone first time it was with Fife and someone had just put a clip and I didn't read the caption I was like oh start my it was with Fife and someone had just put a clip and I didn't read the caption. I was like, oh, start my morning with some Fife on Instagram and then I scrolled down
Starting point is 00:07:49 and the same thing happened with Flavor In Your Ear this morning. Damn. And that's starting to become a trend I don't like that now I have to think when I see middle-aged rappers, I have to think, all right, is this being posted
Starting point is 00:07:59 because they passed? Yeah, my heart beats extra fast when two people post a picture of the same person back to back. Oh, thank God it's their birthday. Yeah. That's why extra fast when two people post a picture of the same person back to back. Oh, thank God it's their birthday. Yeah. That's why I'm mad at Rick Ross. We'll talk about it later. You know what's crazy? That's how I found out I'm big, though.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Because I remember I was in high school and I'm walking to the train and I just happened to walk past the newsstand and I looked at the paper. Like, I looked down at the paper and saw Rest in Peace B.I.G. And I was like, what? You are confusing so many kids right now
Starting point is 00:08:28 with how you received that news. Yeah, but that's, I mean, that's kind of like what Instagram is now. Trains, newspapers. Yeah, Instagram is the new newspaper. So it's like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm literally walking past the newsstand and saw that because he was killing me.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And Instagram is not the new newspaper. They're both full of shit. Twitter is the new newspaper. Yeah, I'll agree with that. Twitter, Instagram is not the new newspaper. They're both full of shit. Twitter is the new newspaper. Yeah, I'll agree with that. Instagram is not the new newspaper. That's the new back page? I can make a case. It's the new back page.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It's the new back page Instagram? Yeah. It's the old back page Instagram. That's always just crazy just finding out people pass like that. I don't know. It's just weird.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Craig Mack, you know, when I saw the news, I was like, damn, Craig Mack has done a really great job of staying off the radar for so long. Again, I always marvel at that because it's so difficult to do. So now I'm reading the story, and I saw that he gave his life to God and the church. He was like, you know. And I saw that he was sick. I didn't know any of that.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I didn't know anything. I didn't either. The last I think I had heard of him was the Can't Stop, Won't Stop documentary that he was sick. I didn't know any of that. I didn't know anything. I didn't either. The last I think I had heard of him was the Can't Stop, Won't Stop documentary that Puff did. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And they were showing them putting that concert together and he was calling Craig Mack, I believe it was Craig Mack, on speaker about getting him involved and he was like, nah, I'm with God now.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I'm cool. Which, it would have been great to see Craig Mack do that, but also that makes me think he was in a really good place. So that's why this news was a little shocking, because I thought he was really taking care of himself. I didn't know he was sick at all. I was looking for Craig Mack during the Bad Boy reunion.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I believe he was the only one that didn't make it. Yeah, but that was a prominent absence. Oh, for sure. That was noticeable. Like, damn, where is the first act ever signed to Bad Boy? Right. Where's the first act? Like, a lot of people don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Craig Mack was the one that was the nice one. Like, when he signed. Before Big. Before Big. He was the one with all the big, grand lyricist plans in the future. His was the album everybody was behind, and they were hyping up. And then Big came. So, I mean. Big was on the B side
Starting point is 00:10:28 of one of his records right isn't that kind of how they introduced him Flavin' Your Ear Big was on the B side of Flavin' Your Ear black single
Starting point is 00:10:36 cassette tape I had and then Big just took off because who knew that people would receive Big that way but rest in peace to Craig Mack
Starting point is 00:10:44 gone but not forgotten. I want to pull up what Puff had to say about it. Let me go to that because that should be important. It was a caption or you did a video? In the newspaper, Instagram. In the newspaper. Front page? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Diddy says, Craig Mack, you were the first artist to release music on Bad Boy and gave us our first hit. You always followed your heart and you had an energy that was out of this world. You believed in me and you believed in Bad Boy. I will never forget what you did for hip hop. You inspired me and will continue to inspire us. We will always love you.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Bad Boy for life. Rest in peace. Craig Mack. Kind words from Puff. And again, rest in peace to Craig Mack and shout out to his family and his loved ones yeah yeah R.I.P.
Starting point is 00:11:28 alright let's get to the fuck shit the non-great hip hop shit the what? non-great hip hop shit well no we got no we got some topics I think all this stuff is great
Starting point is 00:11:40 actually we got some actual hip hop topics do we? did you guys not see Rory come in late and want to tell us the topics we got. How you know what we got? Oh yeah, because I texted you. Well, that too.
Starting point is 00:11:52 But Royce's Freestyle, that was great hip hop. That's true. I enjoyed that thoroughly. All right, Rory's doing that thing again. We're not starting with Royce. You shut the fuck up. Because I really wanted to get to that. I didn't care about hip hop.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I wanted to get to the shit I didn't care about hip hop. I wanted to get to the shit. We will start with summer preparation. I think that's very important. It is snowing now in the New York area. It is supposed to snow next week in the New York area. And that should be the last of the snow. We'll show you a fucking weatherman. That should be the last. Yo,. We'll show you a fucking weatherman. That should be the...
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yo, who the fuck did you just turn into? Did you check the Doppler radar? Yo, who are you? And that should be the last of the snow. Get the fuck out of here, man. How do you know it's the last of the snow? So for the listeners who have a bit more substance than maul and rory back to my point on march 17th is when the farmers is when the farmers is when the farmers are gonna start their farmer shit oh my god and if you a real nigga like me
Starting point is 00:12:59 man get the fuck out of here if you are pardon me i mean i can't oh my bad guy get your farm get your farmer's almanacs at all if you're a real nigga like me and you are Pardon me I mean I can't Oh my bad Get your farmer's almanac If you're a real nigga Like me And you are from Some urban areas Then you know That whatever's going on
Starting point is 00:13:12 With the farmer's almanac Directly correlates To how women Are going to behave And receive you During the warmer months They're the groundhogs Of the season
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yeah Did y'all just call women Groundhogs I want no part of that I didn't just call women Groundhogs of the season? Yeah. Did I just call women groundhogs? I want no part of that. I didn't just call women groundhogs. Oh, okay. Then what? You the fucking...
Starting point is 00:13:30 I just don't want no part of that. He's the moral compass. Yeah, you are the last dude that's the moral compass. So what I'm saying is, next week is the last week of snow, and then the weather will begin to get warm. I'm going to say that that's why this janae big sean shit is going on i'm gonna say this is why the amber 21 stuff is going on
Starting point is 00:13:55 i've seen quite a few breakups and i don't think that's uncommon at the end of winter is all I'm saying. I think people are gearing up for their summer ho run. But all of these people live in California. It's been warm there. It's still a mentality. It's a mentality. All of these people reside in LA. It's 80 degrees there right now. Yeah, like Big Sean has been
Starting point is 00:14:26 in California for months. Jhené is from California. So are you saying that there's no summertime in California? No, there is a summertime in California, but it hasn't been. You think this don't apply? You're telling me that the months are not warmer during the summer in California? They're a little warmer, but
Starting point is 00:14:41 there are 70 and 80 degree days in February and March in LA Yo every time I'm talking about Some New York shit You come in with some Cali I'm saying because These people live in LA So they've been in 80 degree weather
Starting point is 00:14:54 For about two months now Alright but we in New York And I'm talking about a mind state Yeah but I'm just saying The mind state is different It's the mind state Depending on where you live though It's still summer out there
Starting point is 00:15:03 They gearing up man Just play along That's all we have i'm just trying to prove your father's almanac your farmer's almanac shit is totally wrong but go ahead my father has an almanac huh okay so let's let's dig into all right so forget about that forget about the farmers and what they're doing which you diet food man i don't see how you joking about that so okay let's dig into it. All right. So forget about that. Forget about the farmers and what they're doing, which you diet food, man. I don't see how you're joking about that. I don't see how you can't joke about that with all your diet bullshit. But let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Okay. Maul said he knows nothing about Jhené and Big Sean's breakup. I know nothing about it. Right. What have you been doing? Yeah, word. Oh. I was about to say,
Starting point is 00:15:45 what the fuck is that? Sean being a bad boy. Okay. Maybe. I freestyled that one. But Rory, tell them all about what's going on.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Maul, this is what's happening. And this is the best. Rory, tell Maul about what's going on. Maul. Because I keep trying
Starting point is 00:16:01 to make Rory be a B-Mike and he won't. Okay. You didn't even give me a second to say it. Yo, so what happened with Big Sean? He was running around with one of the pussycat dolls and Jhene called him. The important part is
Starting point is 00:16:16 which pussycat doll? Nicole Scherzinger. That's not a bad person to be running around with. She's fire. She's super fire. You can't be mad at anybody for running around with her. If I'm going to run around with anybody, it't be mad at anybody for running around with her. If I'm going to run around with anybody, it's going to be
Starting point is 00:16:26 with Nicole Scherzinger. And there's nothing wrong with just running around. Yeah. Especially when it's nice out. Because it is summer in LA right now. It's summer somewhere.
Starting point is 00:16:37 What are we doing? I'm nervous. Well, I'm not even listening to y'all. This is Jhené's Farmer's Almanac. This is Jhene's Farmer's Almanac. This is Jhene's Farmer's Almanac? Yes. First of all, I feel like every song Jhene Aiko ever made is about this instance.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Leading up to this point? Yes. Don't rumble on about it. Yeah. You ever heard this song, Mo? Mm-hmm. You don't think it applies well like you said Janays most of the names music kind of applies to a breakup or kidnova actually
Starting point is 00:17:11 I know you heard it cuz you can't you put me on a Janae early but you put me on a lot of music on low Rory has been a big fan of Janae early as as have I right y'all don't feel like every one of her songs are about this moment? Since you first meet. Okay. Like, literally since her first song. That interlude on the B2K album might have been about this, too. Oh, but wait.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Let's get to the hook. Oh, yes. Wait, this ain't the hook yet? All right, turn it back down. Oh, wait. She's singing about Big Show. You gave me a new start. No?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Oh y'all don't care Oh yes Okay let's talk about it Does Jenea Akel shower every day or not? For sure According to her she says She said she does not more And I'm having a serious conversation She said this?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah And so did that other I don't believe that No she Yo look how a lie gets started and I'm having a serious conversation. She said this? Yeah. And so did that other... I don't believe that. At Summer Jam. No, she... No, no, no. Yo, look how a lie gets started. I'm not rolling. I'm not showering at Summer Jam.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I'm not rolling with that. Wait, she better shower before Summer Jam. I'm not believing... I'm not believing Jhene Aiko says she doesn't shower every day. I think I've been... You would have to show me where she said that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 On The Breakfast Club. Oh, it was Breakfast Club. People don't watch that, so there you go. Oh, shit. She says she doesn't shower every day? Yes. And so did Naya Rivera.
Starting point is 00:18:32 So that's Sean's type. Stinky. Wait, was she joking? Let's have a serious conversation. First of all, how do you just joke? That's not even a funny joke. I don't know what the context of the conversation leading up to that was. She may have said a joke. I'm like, no, I don't shower every day. I cannot see leading up to that was. She may have said it jokingly. No, I don't shower every day.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I cannot see her being serious saying that. It was said. It was said seriously. I don't believe it. All right. Let's move on. No, let's not move on. Let's move on by not believing her.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Oh, yeah. We're moving on from that. So my point is, I mean, how are you going to keep a nigga around? Right. Now it's all just starting to make sense. Now it makes sense why Jhené is always going through a breakup or sounding like she's hot. She always smells like she is running around. You got to wash that ass.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, you got to wash that ass every day. Twice some days. Like, you have to. Now. Especially in the summertime that's coming. It's hot in L.A. too. The fuck? There's a lot of sweat.
Starting point is 00:19:23 How do you can't be in L.A. and not shower every day? There's a lot of sweat. You can't be in LA and not shower every day. There's a lot of sweat. You can't be anywhere and not shower every day. That's not true. Only place you can be every day and not shower is in the bookings.
Starting point is 00:19:32 That should be the only place you in where you not shower every day. Let me tell you, I'd be home not showering like a motherfucker. Depends the farmer's almanac and what it's
Starting point is 00:19:41 like for me. Are y'all going to run this farmer's thing into the ground? Actually, yes. Okay, do y'all going to run this Farmer's thing into the ground? Actually, yes. Okay, do y'all have any more perspective about Jhené's fake breakup? Oh, Maul didn't believe it. You didn't believe that they broke up because they both said it.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah, but no. She made a statement in the newspaper. Let me find it. You told me that they said that it wasn't true. No, I told you that Jhené said it's not true. And then Big Sean retweeted it with some clapping emojis, which definitely said it's true. But then you said, what is the new breakup thing, that she unfollowed him on Instagram? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 That's where this whole rumor came from. Which is usually a sign that things are rough at the household. This was her statement. Sorry, but nothing about your guys' fan fiction stories are true. Dot, dot, dot. I still love you, though. I'm gonna go out on
Starting point is 00:20:39 a limb. Is that last part maybe a sub to Sean and not the fans? a limb is that last part maybe a sub to sean and not the fans the internet is a wild place it's a whole other reality bless the internet amen that's what she said oh she said that that was on the twitter yes but this is my thing about when celebrities do that that don't disprove nothing yes janae aiko the internet is a wild place and it's unbelievable sometimes now did this nigga cheat or not address this shit she won't oh she said she didn't but i don't believe that so let's talk about it nicole skerskinger
Starting point is 00:21:19 sherwinger whatever the fuck her name is she She's hot. She always has been. She probably showers too. She definitely looks like she showers. She showers a lot. She buys the expensive lotion too. Not just the regular like Lumaderm shit. She definitely. The one with the glitter in it that's really hard to get out. Nicole is a body butter
Starting point is 00:21:39 woman. I can tell a body butter woman. A lotion woman. That's important. She's definitely a body butter woman. That's an important distinction. The body butter chicks body the lotion chicks. Yeah, for sure. And you end up stealing some of that shit too and you glisten a bit better for your day. Yeah, body butter just
Starting point is 00:21:54 goes on a little. Don't really hit the jackpot and meet Shorty that's blending the body butter with the oils. She's doing her own little combination. That's always great. If you get bath bombs from Lush, then you've definitely hit the jackpot. Should Janaya go feel any type of way toward this Nicole Skirskings girl?
Starting point is 00:22:22 The story goes as this, Mo. There was an Oscars party. I believe that as this, there was an Oscars party. I believe that. I believe there was an Oscars party. I believe that there was a party around the Oscars. Big Sean was said to have gone to this Oscars party. I believe that. I believe that so far in the story.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Big Sean was said to have gone to the Oscars party with Nicole Skirskings. I'm rolling so far. You don't want to be alone. I believe that. You don't want to be alone at the Oscars party with Nicole Scherzinger. I'm rolling so far. You don't want to be alone. I believe that. Right. You don't want to be alone at the Oscars party. Especially the climate in Hollywood now with all the handsy people.
Starting point is 00:22:51 You have to have a buddy. You have to have someone near you. That's true. In case. Yeah, with the Me Too movement. Yeah, I get it. So I believe that so far. They said this Oscars party did not allow phones or cameras or videos.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I believe that. I can believe that. That's a really good time to say great party. I can believe. Not only do I believe that, but if I were looking for somewhere to cheat. That confirms some more. That's the one. If I was looking for a spot that I could be.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You said a no phone allowed party. A little touchy. Yeah. It's at the no phones allowed party. And if there's one person, I think, who knows where the no phones allowed party is, it's Big Sean. I don't think that the no phones allowed party is inviting the person that doesn't shower. I'm sure Jhené has been to some no phones parties before. Maybe not no foam because she doesn't shower, but no phones. Jhené, go fuck yourself. I love Jhené has been to some no phones parties before. Maybe not no foam because she doesn't shower, but no phones parties. Jhené going to fuck your mother.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I love Jhené. So all of that story is believable so far. And I have yet to get into how familiar are y'all with Nicole Skirskisker? Not very. I just know that she's attractive. Yeah, I've watched her. She has some sex appeal. I've seen her work. you guys heard any any stories no let's hear them seriously no let's hear no let's let's get the snitching joe what's up it's not snitching say von uh pull up
Starting point is 00:24:16 this pull up uh the whole shirt sex tape no no but i was about to say i'm shocked that y'all didn't hear but y'all don't listen or look for news at all but this was a real big thing a long time ago about the pussycat dolls and some type of sex slave deal oh i remember hearing about that and about what they made this particular young woman do oh but they made her do she's somewhat somewhat yeah her story nicole skerskinger i don't i'm mispronouncing her name so please forgive me i don't know But they made her do? Yeah, her story. Nicole Scherzinger. I'm mispronouncing her name, so please forgive me. I don't know how to pronounce it. Scherzinger.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Scherzinger. Thanks, Bull. I don't want to read it. I mean, but just what do they do? It was some wild shit. You read it on your own. We ain't got time. We're doing a podcast.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Savon stands up in the middle of the room. Pull it up and then read it on your own. It's fucking crazy. No, he stand up like we're in the middle of the room. Pull it up and then read it on your own. It's fucking crazy. No, he's standing up like we're in the auditorium. Say, I wasn't thinking about pulling that shit up on his phone and reading it. Pull it up and read it on your own. I'm telling him to do it because
Starting point is 00:25:15 none of y'all have. But what I'm saying is, there were some stories floating around about exactly how promiscuous this young lady was. I'm not saying that's the particular story that I asked Savon to pull up, but there were some rumblings going on. So when I saw that this was the story,
Starting point is 00:25:32 true or not, I said, yeah, the new hoes can't fuck with some of the old hoes. All right, Big Sean, I know our viewers can't see that, but I get it. Fam, he did that. This chick is upside down doing a split
Starting point is 00:25:46 and Jhene is not showering who loses who loses this one buddy Jhene gonna fuck you up I don't believe that Jhene doesn't shower Jhene has me blocked on Twitter how the fuck would I know we've done nothing but support her
Starting point is 00:26:00 I don't know I have no idea this is even the first time I ever talked about her Not showering Alright well Does Nicole Whatever have you blocked? I don't know Another incentive for Big Sean What do you guys think about
Starting point is 00:26:17 Janae's tattoo? She got a Big Sean tattoo right? Yeah A Big Sean face tattoo Wait Listen I know you guys don't like To give Big Sean tattoo, right? Yeah, a Big Sean face tattoo. Listen, I know you guys don't like to give Big Sean credit, but he allegedly cheated. She got his face tattooed on his arm and then told her to hold it down on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Swag. Now, listen, we spoke about that not too long ago here. It might have been even with Jhené, where we said, you got to wait and wait until you got them. Wait until you got them fully writing songs and shit about you, tattooing your face on you before you can cheat and do some wild shit. Who was we talking?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Oh, Cardi and Offset is what we were talking about. Yeah. Where that came up. That tattoo was stupid from the jump. No? A face tattoo is always a bad idea. Anything with like a significant other tattoo. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. Where do y'all stand on significant other A face tattoo is always a bad idea. Anything with a significant other tattoo. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. Where do y'all stand on significant other tats?
Starting point is 00:27:08 It's not a good idea. I don't even know if I agree with marriage tats. I don't even know if I agree with marriage. It's never a good idea. That's another conversation. It's never a good idea to get a significant other's name or anything tatted on you. Tell me why. Never?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Never. Never. You should never do that. Find another way to show your commitment. If you're married, no? Even if you're married, I don't care. That's why jewelry was picked, because you can take it off. Because the thing about it is, I mean, you can get cover-ups and things like that, but
Starting point is 00:27:35 I don't know. I just think it's just, I don't know. I just never understood that thing. Who is she going to turn Big Sean's face into? She's going to turn Big Sean's face into into a koi fish or some shit like that. Big koi. His name is going to be Big Koi from now on. Definitely. That's the number
Starting point is 00:27:52 one cover up. You see a chick with a koi fish on her side? That shit was definitely the name of Eric or Dante before. You can't fool me with the koi fish. That's a great observation. I'm telling you. That's the number one cover up is the koi fish. Probably because the koi fish. That's a great observation. I'm telling you. That's the number one cover-up is the koi fish.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Probably because the koi fish is big enough to really cover up. It has a lot of curves to it. I get it. Scales. You can't fool me with that shit. What's the name of the koi fish? You got to ask that question. Because chicks don't ever just go get a nigga's name.
Starting point is 00:28:21 They got to go get colors, get it mad bold and big. Well, it used to just be the name. That's somewhat new. You got to start checking the inside of chicks' bottom lips, too, because that's the new spot to get a nigga's name tatted. I'm never doing that.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah, if you meet a girl, you got to pull her lip. How do you go about checking? Pull her lip like a... Like a koi fish. You got to pull her lip, man. Just check to see If it's a nigga name
Starting point is 00:28:45 In her mouth Check the gyms while you're in there Maul is on one today I'm serious though Check to see if it's a nigga Name in her mouth You would be surprised How many women have
Starting point is 00:28:54 A dude's name tatted On the inside of their bottom lip I'm dead serious I'm not even joking right now That's the funny part I want Maul to move Out of the Bronx What you mean?
Starting point is 00:29:02 I'm telling you This is what's happening I don't think I know Many women who have men's names tattooed on the inside of their mouths. I'm telling you, and some of them have it as the invisible ink. I'm telling you, you would be surprised, bro. Remember the shit they was doing in Black Panther? The shit when they was pulling their lip? Yes, more.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Women, niggas' names tattered like that. Okay, so now my question to you is, how many women do you know like that? I know at least four that have a dude's name tatted in their lip. Are you one of them? No. You trash, man.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I'm telling you, I do though. You're not even tattooed in no chick's mouth. I don't ever want to be tattooed in a chick's mouth. Never. You're not even
Starting point is 00:29:41 underneath a koi fish. Keep my name out your mouth, man. Damn, that's crazy. Straight up a koi fish. Keep my name out your mouth, man. Damn, that's crazy. Straight up. Oh, God. Keep my name out your mouth. That tattoo, though, that's why I think they're denying this.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Of course, you can understand why you think they're denying it, no? Yeah, I get it. Everything is expensive. I'm trying to see where you fall on it. Do you believe that this happened or no? Stop protecting. I 100% believe it happened and he cheated. Yes, there we go.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Have you seen Nicole Scherzinger in person before? A long time ago. She's super fine. But is she still fine? Yes. But, oh, that's what I wanted to talk about. None of these new hoes can compete with the old hoes. The old hoes had the hoe in a time where it was tough to hoe.
Starting point is 00:30:24 That's true. Honestly, it was tough to hoe. That's true. Honestly, it was, it was tough to hoe. They had to really target their marks, locate them. It was a lot went into hoeing back then. Checkpoints.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Oh yeah. It wasn't no DM. You literally had to go through checkpoints. No, no, no. Yeah. Trust had to be built sometime.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Like a lot went into it back then. Today. Oh, you always got it easy today uh i don't think so when you talk about nicole scherzinger and i'm not calling her a hoe but what i'm saying is some of the older promiscuous super head wait comparing nicole to super head no what i'm saying is anybody that was rocking back then in their sexuality like out there right you know we joke around a lot niggas never been outside that's our little line right the women that were outside versus today's woman outside i wish i could say certain shit just bluntly but like like today
Starting point is 00:31:19 and it says wait you don't say shit bluntly? Certain shit. Oh, okay. Like today, there's a squad of women. Remember that old, what was that old list that I had? The top five girls from New York that you should totally want to bang until they open their mouth. That's a very interesting list. No, I talked about that list with you. I would love to. We've had that discussion. It's not on the podcast. I would love to. Yes, we have because a few of them from the list hit me like damn you think i'm
Starting point is 00:31:48 dumb we've had that talk on the podcast but uh it's a few chicks today to just try to be all extra sexy and like embrace all the new tricks of hoeing today and it just looks bad it just looks wrong i don't think y'all can compete with some of the chicks that was really getting it in back then i.e nicole scherzinger versus janae aiko well nicole's she's she's experienced yeah she's been around she's a vet yeah she's older she's older woman she's a wily vet a hard nose made her rounds nicole scherzinger is a hard nose vet i don't think janae stood a chance i just want the older women go in with a plan and they know what they want out of it before it begins new women just go in for the vibes let me vibe this person
Starting point is 00:32:31 out let me tell you something i've seen a clip with janae aiko talking to some six-year-olds right okay it's a show it's a show where they put celebrities with the six-year-olds and they have the six-year-olds ask them questions okay and i was watching it and then toward the middle of it janae started ask asking them do they know what cheating is and a one-night one-night stand and open open relationship yeah but that's the premise of the show but how she was speaking. What is this show? All right, I'm pulling it up. That's a sick fucking show, by the way. But what I'm saying is how she was speaking to these six-year-old kids about cheating and all of this other shit, open relationship. It said to me anyway, man, there's some deep-rooted shit with this lady and abandonment.
Starting point is 00:33:24 That's what it said to me. Or maybe the show, maybe she was told that that's how what it said to me. Or maybe the show, maybe she was told that that's how it was supposed to be. Like she would have to ask them adult questions. Now I'm getting my phone. That's crazy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Who's the executive producer of this show? That's a crazy show. Because that lifespan is short. Who's letting their kids go on that shit? I'm not letting my kid talk about cheating. With Jhene Aiko.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah, with cheating with Jhene Aiko. No, you won't be making that. Sorry. Okay, so I found it. I i found it now this is a show this is a show that they do with you know but i just fast forwarded to the part where she asked this because i thought it was pretty telling but i'm obsessive with shit to just chill what's an open relationship an open relationship is a waste of time.
Starting point is 00:34:06 An open relationship is when two people are okay with their boyfriend or girlfriend having other boyfriends and girlfriends. It's weird, right? That's weird. I know. But, you know, everyone has their preference. That's called cheating. Exactly. Say that now. cheating. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Now, exactly. You say that now, little Jermaine. Wait till you look back at that video clip 14 years from now. Little Jermaine. Overrelation is going to be the shit up.
Starting point is 00:34:40 What? Little Jermaine is going to be out here going crazy. But, Jermaine has some type of issues when it comes to this shit up. What? Lil Jermaine is gonna be out here going crazy. But, Jermaine has some type of issues when it comes to this cheating shit.
Starting point is 00:34:49 That's the only reason. I've listened to her last three projects. I know, but... Well, she's been heartbroken. Oh, man, yo, I'm tired of that. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I'm tired of that. She has been. Nigga, I've been heartbroken. Yeah, but... Men have been heartbroken. We hear it in your music. That's what I'm saying. We hear it in her music.
Starting point is 00:35:03 But it's nothing... I mean, I just think that that was the reason she did that show, because they know that that's the type of person she is. That's the type of questions that they put forward. Okay, cool. Listen, 21 and Amber, they're rumored to have broken up. I think Amber denied it.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I don't know. I don't know if they denied it. I'm not really checking. I still don't believe they're really together. I think that's all. I thought they had been done. To be honest. Y'all have no faith in love.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Love, huh? Love. But people are only getting this. I want to lead this conversation to Instagram etiquette like we were talking about before you got here, Rory. People are only having these breakup conversations because people are unfollowing people on social media.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yeah, that's the new way of breaking up. People are only having these breakup conversations because people are unfollowing people on social media. Yeah, that's the new way of breaking up. That's a breakup. Yeah. Unfollowed you. So tell me why Jhené would unfollow Big Sean if he was not getting his fucking meat rubbed by Nicole Scherzinger at the Oscars party with no cameras allowed. But here's, okay. That was detailed.
Starting point is 00:36:01 This is my question. Does the unfollow matter if you're like downstairs in the living room and I'm upstairs in the bedroom? That's even worse. Let me tell you something. If I'm upstairs in the bedroom and Sin is in the kitchen or some shit and I just see I'm unfollowed, I'm running downstairs to where she is. Okay. Yeah, it matters. Hell yeah. It's a public signaling.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah. And you're in my house. You have to follow me. I don't know. Maybe she's trying to spice things up. We are in such a weird era right now. Tell me
Starting point is 00:36:29 I agree with you, but why do you think it's weird? It's just weird the way shit is now. It's just so fucking weird. The things that people do and how you know about someone's relationship and when they're broken up and when you think there's trouble in the relationship. It's just so weird. This era is fucking weird, man.
Starting point is 00:36:46 The fact that unfollowing is the stamp to end a relationship is insane. I disagree. I totally disagree. Good question, Parks. Let me tell you why. No, I don't. I don't have exes, but let me tell you why I disagree with
Starting point is 00:37:01 what y'all are saying. What's the old way before social media? What was the old old way you walked away from each other no let me finish what i'm saying what was the old way to fucking send a quick flare to the other people you might want to fuck that hey it could be happening soon hey it's looking a little rough on this end today that's all that unfollow is there. That's all that is. Nah, you would just, I mean, back in, you know, you would just not see the people, like, the couple with each other.
Starting point is 00:37:32 No, that's not true. And that's why I don't talk to you, because now you're lying on our generation. Which is me. That's how I was. You just didn't see niggas together. You didn't see. No way.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Or he would tell you, like, nah, we ain't together no more. Oh, please. Niggas just kick their girls back into their girl best friend or some shit. That's how they knew back then that it was trouble in Paris. Yo, you and your girl good? Man, nah, man, let me tell you what she did. Like, that's how you knew. Yeah, but you would-
Starting point is 00:37:56 Today, you could kind of avoid all of that. Well, are you talking like high school era or like when you were older than that? Talking about pre-internet era. Okay, because I was in high school. I dropped out October of freshman year. High school era or when you were older than that? Talking about pre-internet era. Okay, because I was in high school. I dropped out in October of freshman year. I meant that era, not when you were actually educated in the almanac. You'd publicly ignore them.
Starting point is 00:38:21 You'd find the spot where everyone was at and then publicly ignore them, which wasn't really ignoring them. Y'all show up to events not together. Yeah, you just go to where people will see you not fucking with her. Do you guys care about, do you guys care about Bernice and Offset?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Bernice being pregnant? Deeply. She's pregnant. We're 40 minutes in on relationship bullshit. Sounds like a Joe Bundle to me. She is.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Very funny, Parks. She's pregnant about Offset or Quavo? Mo, you have to start looking at your phone You just said Bernice and Quavo I mean Offset I didn't mean Offset Oh, um I don't think that's true
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah, you don't think anything is true That I don't think What do you believe in? I don't think Bernice is pregnant by Quavo I don't believe that Unfathomable to believe she could be pregnant by the guy she's been fucking for nine months. I mean, but she's also been fucking with other guys for months and never got pregnant. I don't see her getting pregnant by Quavo.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I don't see it. I hope. I mean, I would hope not, but I don't know. What does that mean? Listen, Mo. Wait, what does I would hope not mean? Do you think he's not a fit father? She can't get pregnant by a homeboy?
Starting point is 00:39:21 He's just so much younger than she is. I don't, like, Quavo might be close to her daughter's age I would say that for sure that's just a little weird to me I'm the last one to talk about this topic and it's like her daughter's pregnant she just had the baby I think yeah so now her
Starting point is 00:39:37 daughter's uncle her grandfather's that happens kind of often does it? the grandkid and the kid being born around the same time? The grandkid being older than the uncle? I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I've seen it, but I wouldn't say common. You've seen it? I've seen it, hell yeah. A couple of my good friends are... Well, you're from the sticks up north. I'm from jail. I can't see that. That's not common.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I've seen uncles and nephews be swapped older. I've seen nephews be older than uncles. That's crazy. What are you guys' feelings? Back to Instagram etiquette. I'm all over the place a little bit. What are you guys' feelings about your friends liking your significant other's pictures on Instagram? Your male friends. Depends on the picture. I can't's pictures on Instagram? Your male friends.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Depends on the picture. Come on, Rory and Parks. It depends on the picture. Yeah. Alright, tell me more. If it's a lusty picture, don't like that shit. My girl doesn't post lusty pictures, but hypothetically. Yeah, that's why I'm going to have to go up hypothetical. If it's some shit that's a little provocative... Well, tell me what a lusty picture would be.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You know, some cleavage. With some arms showing. I know how men are. She's got her ankle out. Doesn't have her ski mask on. The paper bag I bought her. The phone I broke. She posted a photo.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I'm serious. Come on, for real. It would have to be a little... I mean, cleavage is fine. Wholesome pictures I like. I don't follow many a little, I mean, cleavage is fine. Wholesome. Wholesome pictures I like of my friends. I don't follow many of my friends' girlfriends,
Starting point is 00:41:08 but those that I do, if it's a wholesome picture or it looks like they're trying to get some advertising off or something, I'll like that. But then I'd have to think, what if I was dating a girl
Starting point is 00:41:17 whose profession was advertising? Well, you know what I'm saying? They're advertising that ass. That's what they're advertising. That's who the fuck you need. Advertising. I follow this dude, right? But again, they're advertising that ass that's what they advertise who the fuck you mean advertising I follow this dude
Starting point is 00:41:26 right but again this may just be a disconnect in niggas that's old and today's niggas I follow this dude well I used to follow this dude on Twitter
Starting point is 00:41:37 and like every time Sid would post a picture I guess it would be one of those lusty pictures like y'all say. But I don't.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I'm not looking at it like that. But he would tweet or write shit like, oh, man, if I were Joe, Joe, I would be going ham. Wait, do y'all have somewhat of an association with each other? Like, not your friend. Not beyond social media. No, I've never met the gentleman I've never seen him We follow each other
Starting point is 00:42:09 And we speak to each other He's in his rights then It's still crazy but I can understand It's wild It's fucking wild It's fucking wild Thank God Stavon is here I'm looking around
Starting point is 00:42:24 No it's wild but I'm so good. Thank God Stavon is here. I'm looking around. Am I amazing? No, it's wild, but I can understand. What? That's all right. Just because y'all follow each other, you can't turn it. He don't know you. That nigga don't know you. You ain't his man.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Mo, you can't. I don't give a fuck. You shouldn't say to no nigga whether you know him or not. Oh, that's true. You should not say to a man, yo, if I were you. That's true. That's true. So then what are y'all talking?
Starting point is 00:42:48 That's what I just said. And y'all saying, oh, that ain't your man. What are y'all talking about? We weren't looking into that. I could see why he would be like always commenting on her picture. No man should be saying that. I wasn't sure that you were saying actual words that he was saying. I thought you were saying he was complimenting.
Starting point is 00:43:04 No, saying if I was Joe no but that's what I'm saying to y'all I think that in his brain he was complimenting Joe that's what I'm saying to y'all about the disconnect I don't think that he thinks that he thinks anything was wrong
Starting point is 00:43:20 with that statement that's weird it's weird. Yeah, he's a weirdo. It's weird. It's weird. Well, you think everybody's weird, but he's weird. That was weird.
Starting point is 00:43:28 That's definitely weird. I do think everybody's weird. What was his at name? I'm not saying it. I don't think I know it. I don't think I know it offhand. At weirdocreep92. He runs the Sid and Joe account on Instagram. Yeah, he's got a few underscores in this shit, I bet.
Starting point is 00:43:40 All the creeps got underscores somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got three of them. Okay, what else? Oh, creeps got on the score somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got three of them. Okay, what else? Oh, the iHeart Music Radio Awards. Yeah. I didn't need... What were the big winners?
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yo, this podcast is hilarious. Yo, we're dicks. Like, we ain't never gonna get no ad. Not with iHeart Radio. No, that's for damn sure. I don't know. Who won a big winner? Save on.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Chance won some shit. They do a good festival. Cardi won a bunch of shit, I think. Yeah, she won like. All right. Nobody knows who won anything. Nobody really cares. Let's just not let people know how uninformed we are.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Let's talk about Cardi announcing her album date. You believe it? I do. album date. You believe it? I do. Hell no. I believe it. I don't believe that shit for a second. Okay, so let me... I'm going to believe it.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Tell us why. I'm going to believe it. Next month? April. I think... We are in the mid-March. Yeah, I don't think... Well, first of all, albums have much smaller rollouts than they used to.
Starting point is 00:44:42 That's true. And Atlantic is not in a position now where they can push it. They've been rolling her out for over a year. When have they given her an album date, though? They've been rolling her out. She wrapped up in a rug? How long can they roll her out? There's really something wrong with you, man.
Starting point is 00:44:57 They've been rolling her out. They have been rolling her out for a man long. I mean, she's got a bunch of joints. So tell me more about... Because I'm going to counter every last thing that. I mean, she's got a bunch of joints. So tell me more about... They have never... Because I'm going to counter every last thing that you're saying, but tell me anyway. They've never announced a date on her before. True.
Starting point is 00:45:11 So it's not like... Not an album date. Not an album date, yes. We all know those artists that always announce dates and be like, that's going to be pushed. We know. We've been down this road before. And I don't think Atlantic is in a space now with what they've done with her where they can push it back.
Starting point is 00:45:26 They've needed an album from her since maybe last month. And I don't think they're going to take the risk of announcing something and not going through with it. I don't think Atlantic feels like that at all. I don't think they felt like they needed an album last month or last year from her. I think they feel like they're right on time.
Starting point is 00:45:42 She did a whole montage of the hits to open the show up. And she kind of killed it, shit. Yeah, I will say that Bruno record definitely spared her a lot of time. Yeah. Because that has to cook. And the G's. But I still think this was the quarter to do it in.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Do you think to wait till the summer for Cardi or set her up for the summer? That's where she blew up, so shit. I know that last week on VH1, and this means nothing in the grand scheme of things, but last week on VH1, when they were teasing the Love & Hip Hop reunion, after every commercial break, they kept teasing that a new Cardi video would premiere the next week.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Cardi or Barty? Barty on Cardi. I don't know the exact name of the song, but that's the video. So then the next week came, and that didn't premiere at all. But when I saw that commercial, I thought that was odd. I thought it was odd that Cardi and her people would choose to premiere a video on VH1, the platform that she left. That just seemed odd.
Starting point is 00:46:39 So the video never came out on that platform. Who knows why, but that struck a chord with me. That is what Cardi has been doing for the past nine months. Maybe not with an album date, but she has been promising things and not delivering for nine months. Freestyles, videos this entire time she has been make not making good on promises that only she has said but yeah i'm about to say where did those come from from her live like it's not an announcement that was backed by the label no it's not like no i played that little meek intro of hers she was on live time out and today is today is tough to say that because every artist
Starting point is 00:47:28 makes their own announcements today there's nothing there's no announcement where we say all right the label is doing that cardi b has been on a stage and made an announcement before not an album announcement but she's been on award shows making announcements which i would assume all right maybe the label something now this time kaiser was in the audience so maybe that's a little different but i don't believe this shit anyway i didn't even bring it up to spend a lot of time i don't believe for one second that cardi b is putting out an album next month no way on god's green earth on what record her buzz around now just her buzz she's not no way. No way. Atlantic did not spend all of this money building her and her buzz.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Summer release. She seems like a summer release person. I would see them setting her up for the summer. Right. Because she may still take some time to build records on the album. I don't understand the language you use when you say setting her up for the summer. They've been setting her up since last spring. Well, with an album comes a lot more records that they can work for the summertime.
Starting point is 00:48:31 If you announce them in July, you're not really going for a summer record. I'm asking you how much more money you expect the label to spend on setting up. Well, they're done. That's the part that fans fans never really get in into that part atlantic has spent millions of dollars since last year promoting this young lady and do you think here we are album time we need to pick something up they're not going in no conference room saying all right let's invest more millions into more records. I wouldn't think. To that point, though, I don't think they would have not let her announce and let that shit spread so far without their approval.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So do you think with what you just said, they're going to take the risk of spending more money to push an album further back and to lose more buzz? Yeah, Atlantic has shown us time and time again that they do not mind pushing an album back, that they don't mind milking the singles and not giving you an album. They don't mind that at all. What artists recently, though?
Starting point is 00:49:30 Uzi. Wiz. Did he ever even announce an album? Ty Dolla $ign. Every artist. Ty's been on top? Ty, no, he was not. He got pushed back.
Starting point is 00:49:38 He got pushed back. That drop top, not drop top, I mean, Beach House 3. The Beach 3? 3. It was pushed back. Okay, I thought that was on top. No way. Uzi, did Uzi ever even announce he was putting an album out?
Starting point is 00:49:48 All of those artists have. Uzi took a long time. I thought Uzi said he announced he wasn't putting an album out. Uzi took a long time. And then he announced he was, and then he still didn't until Atlantic. I don't know. That's their thing over there that they do. Just with Cardi, I don't see them making an announcement like that for something so big
Starting point is 00:50:04 to push it back. Unless that's a way to continue buzz, but I don't see them making an announcement like that for something so big to push it back unless that's a way to continue buzz but I don't see it do you think do you think they're in the red with what they've spent
Starting point is 00:50:12 no way no I don't think so either so that's why they may want to spend some more money no I don't think they're in the red at all
Starting point is 00:50:18 I think they're highly in the black I think they're way in the black that's why they're not tripping you're saying they're spending all these millions of dollars to push Cardi but they're not in the red over it they're making but they're way in the back. That's what I'm saying. You're saying they're spending all these millions of dollars to push Cardi, but they're not in the red over it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 They're making money. They're profitable. They'll be more profitable with an album that works. I don't think she should ever put out an album. I agree. I think she should keep doing what she's doing. Word. I'm still not of the belief that everybody is waiting for an album from Cardi.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I'm not saying that to be offensive. What I'm saying is there are album artists and there are single artists. I'm not certain that Cardi is an album artist. Okay, I'll say this. And if you look at the hype that people, if you look at the hype machine, the hype machine is going to always tell you
Starting point is 00:51:03 they want an album from people. Yeah, of course. But I don't think the hype machine, the hype machine is going to always tell you they want an album from you. Yeah, of course. But I don't think the hype machine listens to albums at all. Especially if they're hearing Cardi, the Bardi Air Bardi, whatever that shit is called. Does anybody love that record? That record, they're sweeping under the rug without saying it. It didn't click the way I predicted. That tells me I don't necessarily want to hear a whole album.
Starting point is 00:51:19 But Cardi still built... But she's great. Of course, her superstardom went from Bodak Yellow and her singles. But Cardi really did build her music career off doing a bunch of mixtapes. Yeah. So there is something to say that she built. She put out a couple mixtapes that built herself up to people even wanting to accept Bodak Yellow. I think she just called.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So I'm not going to say she's fully just a singles artist. Of course, to the masses, her superstardom now started with that Bodak Yellow, but she put some time in with actual projects that got her some buzz. I believe now for one second that we're getting a Cardi B album next month. Agreed. That's definitely not happening. I don't believe that. And I don't give a fuck what she said, where she said.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I'm not wrong with it. Did y'all hear the Drake and Lauren snippet? No. Lauren Hill? Lauren Hill Lauren Hill What Interesting No I didn't What timeline was that on
Starting point is 00:52:10 Oh man Savon How'd I miss that What do y'all do during the week Pull up the Drake and Lauren record And listen to it yourself How come y'all never see Or know anything
Starting point is 00:52:18 Where did you see this I didn't see this Where did you hear this Savon just Find the clip Of the biggest rapper in the world. Find the clip of... And Lauryn Hill.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And listen to it on your own time. And don't play it for us. I'm only telling him to find these things so y'all could be in for it. You can't reverse the joke. Was it dope? It's hard for me to judge the audio on those. But what I will say... Let me tell you, Sam... Did you just hear Draft Day for the first time?
Starting point is 00:52:48 No, it wasn't Draft Day. I got nothing on. Google don't even know. Google don't even know. Joe, what record did you hear? It wasn't Draft Day. What snippet did you hear? That shit was a mashup.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Where did you hear this at? It was online. Would you like me to stop the podcast and try to find it? No, it's an answer. You don't have to stop. And it wasn't draft day. Was it Twitter or Instagram?
Starting point is 00:53:10 It was Twitter. Search Twitter then. That shit was fake. Did you just hear draft day? I heard Drake's voice and Lauren's voice. And what I will say is it sounded better than...
Starting point is 00:53:22 I didn't like when Fab did that killing me softly shit. Does anybody remember that record or am I going to be the only one giving opinions on that? what I will say is it sounded better than I didn't like when Fab did that Killing Me Softly shit does anybody remember that record or am I going to be the only one giving opinions on that I love that record what record you really don't like that record
Starting point is 00:53:32 no I didn't like that record what record I love that record the Fab record when he did Killing Me Softly over he had Shorty from Joe's album Jazz
Starting point is 00:53:40 I love that record oh on Shootout so much time Shootout 2 yeah yeah oh that's weird I thoroughly I play that record oh on Shootout so much time Shootout 2 yeah oh that's weird I thoroughly I play that record often
Starting point is 00:53:48 alright here's the snippet it's not weird it doesn't have to be weird it's not weird because we have a different taste in music it's weird not liking Fab
Starting point is 00:53:58 and Lauryn Hill together alright we were going to try to play the audio for you guys but it's trash it's not CDQ ah yeah you can't play anything that it's trash It's not CDQ Ah yeah You can't play anything that's non-CDQ
Starting point is 00:54:08 Rest in peace Non-CDQ We need that flack Those are some of my favorite times in hip hop When niggas was throwing the CDQ phrase around CDQ We need the CDQ Yeah
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah that was important Um What was I just Uh what else What other albums are coming out Oh Drake album Come on I wanna guess when these albums are coming. We know a Drake album is coming.
Starting point is 00:54:26 We don't think a Cardi album is coming. Kanye got to be coming soon, I would think, right? Slow down. Drake's coming when? April? Summer. May. Let's guess.
Starting point is 00:54:35 May. Yeah, he can't come in April. May, June. No, he can't. I like May. I like May for Drake, too. Yeah. All right, Kanye has pink hair.
Starting point is 00:54:47 That definitely means music is coming. Yes. He's starting one of his manic episodes. I hate it. Can we just get the music, dog? I don't pay attention to that shit. Me either. Yes, you do.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I really don't. What he does in his personal life now. Well, why not? I'm about to paint you up against the stand ropes. Why don't you pay attention to Kanye's pink hair? This will be the stand ropes. I generally used to like... Wait, don't admit to it.
Starting point is 00:55:12 That's no fun. I generally used to like Kanye's personality, what he perceived as his personality, and then this switch up. I'm cool, man. I just like your music, even when you've done insane things off record. Your music's still good to me,
Starting point is 00:55:26 so I'm only going to pay attention to that. I don't need to know about your reality show life. Did you see the Kanye bracket that's going around? I did. I actually thought it was, for the most part, pretty accurate. Who won? What song won? It was just the bracket.
Starting point is 00:55:38 It wasn't. Like winners. I thought that was real stupid. I think all in brackets that people are doing Are real stupid Like us Kanye Well no Our bracket was actually dope
Starting point is 00:55:49 And now I'm deterred From doing it Because everybody is doing These stupid brackets Like Kanye's best song Drake's best song 90s R&B Y'all are trash
Starting point is 00:55:57 The Drake one I saw That went semi-viral Today on the timeline Had 10 bands As a number one seed So I I immediately Immediately exited timeline had 10 bands as a number one seed so i i immediately immediately exited from that one seed that's funny yeah that that's crazy kanye album is coming when
Starting point is 00:56:14 kim kim kim yeah he'll put that shit out tomorrow kim has been visible the hair is pink he's been in a cave in iowa for a year recording. Hopefully it's different woods. Him and Kid Cudi are still friends. It has to drop while they're friends still. Hopefully it's different woods than Justin's woods. No, he's not in Justin's woods. That's important to the Kanye process. He does have to be cool with Cudi
Starting point is 00:56:37 for some shit to come. Yeah, so that's what it is. I'm going to go with I'm going to go out on a limb and say July. For Kanye? Yes. Not because I don't. I think he's ready.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I think sooner than July. I think he's ready right now. I just think the maniacal genius that he is, now that he's done, he's going to go try to figure out how to get the next phase rocking. I don't think he's just dropping it. I'm just talking shit. This could be something. Drake and Kanye go against each other
Starting point is 00:57:10 either same month or same release date. I could see them doing that. They're kind of friends now. That could be the old way to get sales up. What's up with you 27-year-old people wanting to see these duels? I like duels. What will that do?
Starting point is 00:57:26 I hated that last Kanye 50 duel. Oh, why? I thought it was entertaining. You said that like it just happened last summer. Yeah, it was in 2007. That's the last time I saw a duel. Duel is just funny. If you keep saying duel like that,
Starting point is 00:57:40 me and you are going to have a duel, right? You all laugh at everything and don't know anything happening in the world. I'm so confused by y'all. Duel. A duel. When was the last time y'all saw a duel?
Starting point is 00:57:50 That was an important part in hip-hop history, that duel. Yeah, and it was rigged. Well, that's where shit changed from gangster shit to... That is where shit changed. So then why would I want to see
Starting point is 00:58:01 another rigged duel? I don't think that would be rigged, but Drake and Kanye? Stupid as hell. Well, they live next door to each other. So I could see them rigging. Apple would win. Oh, well, Apple's going to always win.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Apple's going to always win. Exactly. So why do we need to see a duel? I got Kanye coming in. When did I say? July? Yeah. I'm going July.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Him and Jay still have to make up. There's mad shit going on there Kanye and Drake same month my prediction and I got Beyonce's album dropping before all these albums interesting because of the tour announcement I had her album dropping soon
Starting point is 00:58:37 even before that information leaked I just I like to think I have a pretty good radar for when Beyonce starts doing the most subtlest of things like walking like if she walks a certain way
Starting point is 00:58:54 she's letting you know she's dropping soon like she's one of the people that does that like really really well and she's been doing it for a little while so I assumed that music was coming you think it'll be a Beyonce or a Beyonce and Jay project? I think it'll be a Beyonce project. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I don't think we're getting this famed Beyonce and Jay project that people keep talking about. All of the collab projects that people have spoken about for quite some time, I don't believe they're coming at all. Rory's still waiting for Cole and Kendrick. Am I? Rory's still waiting on Wayne and Jewels. I am waiting for that. I'm waiting for Juelz. I am waiting for that. I'm waiting for that too. I'm waiting for that.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Y'all are such trash. Waiting for Wayne and Juelz. It's a good segue. The police are waiting for Juelz. Before we go on to there, Rihanna though. I have Rihanna dropping some shit next month. I don't know. Some surprise shit.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Hold up now. I got Rihanna next month. Why? It's been too long for someone that has dropped an album pretty much every year her whole career. She has not. There was only one time she didn't drop an album
Starting point is 00:59:57 every year for her entire existence. How long was it between Anti and was that Unapologetic? That was the only stint. Yeah, I don't think she's coming right back fenty doing too well hey not only is fenty doing doing extremely well she just announced that she was doing um a lingerie line as well we're gonna see a lot so what so what i'm saying is rihanna's rihanna's pretty busy i don't i just don't see it coming. Well, we should thank her because my whole Instagram feed was Fenty Makeup. So now I'd imagine my whole Instagram feed now will be Fenty Lingerie.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yeah. And in my brain, I just feel like Beyonce and Rihanna stay away from each other's releases. I don't ever remember a time where they released fairly close to one another. Anti-Lemonade.. Anti and Lemonade. Anti and Lemonade. But remember, when that happened, Rory, Rihanna was pushed back for a year with Anti. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:54 She was dropping the Paul McCartney record. She was dropping all these records, and she pushed it back. And it just happened to land around Lemonade. I don't think that was intentional. I think she was trying to binge get that shit out. Yeah, now Rihanna, people forget because Anti was so great. There was a couple records that was intentional. I think she was trying to binge get that shit out. Yeah, now Rihanna, people forget because Anti was so great. There was a couple records
Starting point is 01:01:08 she was trying. Shit, Bitch Better Have My Money did not work for the first couple months. They worked the shit out of that record. I'm surprised that wasn't on Anti.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I like that record. I do too. It's great, but trust me, it didn't connect the way the end result did. Quick sidebar. Don't kill me here beehive man no no you you remember last week when when we were trying to figure out we were trying to
Starting point is 01:01:34 pinpoint our issue with the top off record and i said that my issue is the whole thing just sounds dated until beyonce comes on uh-huh uh I listened to it all week because Sins played it all week. Beyonce too sounds dated. I listened to it again and I felt kind of the same way. I don't know about dated. I just. No, no, no, no, no, no. Dated is the exact word I am attempting to use.
Starting point is 01:01:59 When you take away the fact that it's Beyonce, I don't know who wrote that for her. But what is that line that's, it's Beyonce. I don't know who wrote that for her. But what is that line that's cringeworthy to me? My ice, my bills, my cash, my ice, my body,
Starting point is 01:02:18 my bills, all real. I'm a triple threat. Bars. I don't know what you're talking about. Bars. I don't know what you're talking about. Bars. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Listen. Listen. That song also has... I don't ever want to hear... Never mind. One day I'm going to get some... You're going to stand on the ledge by yourself with that one, buddy. Y'all are so pussy.
Starting point is 01:02:38 So there's no dated slang in the Beyonce verse. Honestly. I don't like her verse that much. I call me old fashioned. I want to hear a whole between skirt skirts. I don't like her verse that much. I call me old fashioned. I want to hear a whole between skirt skirts. I don't like that record. At all. I like skirt skirt.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I don't like the record. I like whole between skirts. I don't want to hear whole between skirts. I like skirt skirt. That almost went under the radar. I like skirt skirt. I would have repeated it for you.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Man, get the fuck out. I like skirt skirt. I do like skirt skirt. I don't know why everything I say is skirt skirt i would have repeated it man get the fuck out i like skirt skirt i do like skirt skirt i don't know why i don't ever say skirt skirt like that it's in all the hottest rap songs why would i not say yeah but you can't say it in conversation you have to say like rory just said he doesn't like jay in between skirt skirts and i thought that you know what i thought that jay sounded great in between the skirt skirts. No, his verse was fire.
Starting point is 01:03:29 No, I like the way that Jay skirts. Yo, and... Jay probably has the best skirt in the game. Underrated. No, he didn't say... Better than me goes his skirt. Better than future... I like Jay's skirt. Sounds like a real East Coast...
Starting point is 01:03:40 He didn't say skirt. He's probably saying some super fly shit. Yeah, like Jay does it cooler. These little niggas. Oh, wait. Another quick sidebar. Did y'all watch D-Rock's interview with Elliot and B-Dot on Rap Radar? I watched it today.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I watched it. And boy, that was a great interview. Shout out to B-Dot and Elliot and D-Rock. But Biggie couldn't drive. That's what I learned from that interview. Man, New Yorkers can't drive. No, no, no, no. But that fucked my whole week up.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Why? Was there ever even footage of Big behind the wheel? Closest we've seen of Big behind the wheel is in the video. The hypnotized with a boat. Yeah, press the cat. So that does nothing to y'all that Biggie couldn't drive. It's somebody else That can't drive The king of New York
Starting point is 01:04:26 A lot of people can't drive He made partying bullshit You don't really drive in New York And he died at 24 I could see by like 28 Like alright fam You're rich and you're 28 You should get your license
Starting point is 01:04:37 No that's when you don't drive no more When you're rich I'm not paying all that for cars That I'm not driving I never understood that shit I have a driver But come on I'm paying this much $ For cars that I'm not driving I never understood that shit I get to have a driver But come on I'm paying
Starting point is 01:04:46 This much $300,000 For a fucking Lamborghini I'm not gonna drive How did y'all learn to drive? Uh Just
Starting point is 01:04:53 My mom I guess How did I learn? I don't know Did someone actually teach you How to drive Or did you just watch and learn? I watched a lot of I watched
Starting point is 01:05:00 I learned a lot of driving By watching But I definitely like First time you was behind The wheel was when? I stole my parents car Oh I was a kid By driving by watching, but I definitely like... First time you was behind the wheel was when? I stole my parents' car. Oh, I was a kid. By myself?
Starting point is 01:05:07 Me too. I stole Debbie's car. Behind the wheel by myself? I think I drove me and my brother got drunk and I had to drive home. So D-Rock was telling the story about how Big was in the passenger seat and he was driving and Big forgot his asthma pump upstairs. So D-Rock ran back upstairs to get the asthma pump.
Starting point is 01:05:30 And when he came back down, Big wasn't there because he hopped in the driver's seat and he drove around a block. And in the process, he hit like eight or nine cars just driving around the one block. So then I just smiled because Big was one of my favorite rappers ever. And then I was fucked up about it. And then I judged him. And I was like, how the fuck do you hit eight cars just driving around the block? And then I remembered my very first time driving a car.
Starting point is 01:05:56 And it was stolen from a friend of mine. And it was snowing in Queens. And I was going to see a chick. And I was driving two miles per hour. And I hit every car in front of me. So I could see how it's done. The day I got my license I got into action. Well driving in the snow
Starting point is 01:06:13 and Dub B was asleep and so I didn't know that the Saturn breaks in the Queens snow. It was the two door Saturn. It was all bad. Do they still make Saturns? I don't think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:26 They make Saturns. They do? I think they do. Yo, y'all don't know shit. How bougie are y'all? I haven't seen any Saturns. I live in New York. I don't have a car.
Starting point is 01:06:35 And let me tell you something. I'm tired of that line, too. That's super trash. What? That line is trash, and I'm not really going to say for men, but the whole New York, I'm in New York, so I don't know how to drive. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I think anybody outside of New York doesn't know how to drive.
Starting point is 01:06:51 No. It's just not. I live in New York, so I'm so reliant on our fucking trustworthy train system that I do not know how to drive. I'm not talking about owning a car. I'm talking about the adult women and men who do not know how to operate. I'm not talking about owning a car. I'm talking about the adult women and men who do not know how to operate a vehicle. It's a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:07:10 In New York. Yeah, that is disgusting. After 25, you definitely have to. I get like 22, that type age. When did you get your license? 16.
Starting point is 01:07:21 All the white people. The whites and Asians. They was laced at 16 and 15. I was laced. Laced. They were laced. Yo, Mo, what's up? You got a beef with me?
Starting point is 01:07:33 No. Honestly. I have beef with nobody. You say that when you have beef with people. I don't have beef with nobody. Do you have tension with me? No. Do you have something you want to get off your chest?
Starting point is 01:07:42 No, man. I'm just laughing at your lingo. But you've been doing that for about two months. You've been doing that for like two years. Skirt, skirt. You're laughing, but I'm mad that I was never cool enough to put a skirt in a verse. You never skirted. Well, you've never really rapped about it.
Starting point is 01:07:58 I never spelled anything either. That's the other thing. I always hated when people spelled things if they weren't Biggie. Okay. Pussy killed spelling independent Fab spilled killed the wrong spelling
Starting point is 01:08:13 of fabulous well that kind of helps me know how to correctly spell fabulous I just know it's not F-A-B-O-L-O-U-S every time I'm correctly spelling fabulous I have to say F-A-B-O
Starting point is 01:08:24 to know it to you. Because then I get confused between how to spell fabulous, how to, fab spells fab, and how the cleaning fabuloso spells it. Where are you spelling fabulous and not referring to the rapper? I say fabulous. I have an extensive vocabulary. Not bad, bro. I don't think a man should ever use fabulous. Fabulous.
Starting point is 01:08:44 That is a word I think we've thrown away, thrown to the lions 50 years ago. I think we need a whole podcast on the things you think men shouldn't do.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I think we do, too. That's a good afterthought. That would be great. Yeah, but you have to get him to talk. You have to get him to actually participate and say something.
Starting point is 01:08:59 When does a man ever use the word fabulous? Other than that's crazy. When does a man ever use the word fabulous? That is crazy to use the word fabulous as a man. As a man. As a man ever used the word fabulous? Other than that's crazy. When has a man ever used the word fabulous? That is crazy to use the word fabulous as a man. As a man.
Starting point is 01:09:08 As a man? I'm never fabulous. You've never been fabulous? Okay, I don't know how to respond to this or segue from it. So, y'all, what do you say back to, yo, if you a man and you use the word fabulous, you what? I'd like to know some scenarios where you've used it yeah that's that's that's a great question word yes fabulous yes all right well let me think okay i think i need you to answer this i need to know when you've used the word not talking about music rapping none of that shit i probably said that in response to how's
Starting point is 01:09:42 your day going you've had a fabulous day before? You killed me for wonderful, and you were saying fabulous this whole time? You've had a fabulous day? What was so fabulous about your day? Like, what was happening? I don't recall right now. Today isn't as fabulous.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Okay, cool. You've had a fabulous day, Parks? No. Okay. You, Rory, you had a fabulous day? No, bro. Fellas, Eric, no? Yvonne, you ever had a fabulous day, Parks? No. Okay. You, Rory, you ever had a fabulous day? No, bro. Fellas, Eric, no? Yvonne, ever had a fabulous day?
Starting point is 01:10:09 Erickson is his name. Yo, E, Darryl, Darryl. Yo, got it on the camera. Yvonne don't even know niggas' names that he do a podcast. I thought his name was Eric. Are you done with this fabulous deep dive? I've been done with the word fabulous for years, but apparently it's still a part of your extensive
Starting point is 01:10:26 vocabulary. Oh, shit. It's mad little news tidbits to get here. Bow Wow Mrs. Chris Brown. What? Bow Wow Mrs. I'm telling you what I wrote down. Bow Wow Mrs. Chris Brown. Mo, you don't know that? You don't know anything. Bow Wow Mrs. Chris Brown. Mo, you don't know anything.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Alright, no. Let's talk about something serious because y'all have joked You don't know anything Alright no For real Alright let's talk about Something serious Because y'all have joked around For too long now We're 71 minutes in And we haven't touched Joel's case shit
Starting point is 01:10:52 We haven't touched shit And then Rory and Morgan Get up I gotta go man Joel He's in custody right Yeah I think he's in custody Taylor caught him
Starting point is 01:11:03 No he turned himself in He should have kept running You know the fuck He shouldn't have Yeah he I think he's in custody, yeah. Taylor caught him? Mm-hmm. No, he turned himself in. He should have kept running. No, the fuck he shouldn't have. Yeah, he shouldn't have ran in the first place. I got to know what he's... No. What would you say?
Starting point is 01:11:12 I didn't know what was in there. I can see that. Maul, Maul. You never had something in your carry-on like in one of the compartments that you didn't know was there?
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah, like a lighter. Yeah, not a lighter. Yeah, not a lighter. Yeah, had a hammer in there. Had a hammer. Yeah, not a lighter. Yeah, how the hammer work. How the hammer, you know what I'm saying? All right, so now my question to you, Maul.
Starting point is 01:11:29 That's six ounce fluid. May have had an Adderall in there. After you tell them, yo, I forgot. What do you think is the next step? You're going to, listen.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Do you think that helps? Here's the thing. That exonerates you? Listen to what I'm saying. You know what exonerates me? You're going to jail anyway. Anyway. Yeah yeah so you might as well run and have some fun nah man fuck that well i gotta you're going to jail anyway so admit to it nah that's mine but i forgot no more yeah i'm gonna try to get a beer you running out of the airport and being like
Starting point is 01:11:58 i'm looking for you for two days is doing what i'm gonna go have a beer and have a good time as joel santana. I want to know the moment he got in that cab or whatever he did to dip. No pun. What was his thought? Like, alright, what's my plan now? Where's the weed? Yeah, right. I need a drink and some weed.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Straight to your lawyer's office. I would have just walked away from the bag and went through security. That's not even my shit. Yeah, right. They went right to them 300 cameras they had on you. I grabbed it by accident. My thing is this.
Starting point is 01:12:30 None of us believe that Joel Santana was actually trying to board an airplane with a firearm. I think he forgot. That's what I'm saying. We all do believe that he forgot. Yes, that it was in the bag. I could see that. And that has happened before where niggas just forget shit sometimes. I understand that.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Just got to be a little more careful with that. A firearm. I mean, who packed this bag? He didn't take a gander in the bag. If you watch Love & Hip Hop, his girl didn't even let him go to the studio. He was about to get on a plane. Well, let me put this handgun in here. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:02 That's crazy. That's hilarious. All right, so he turned himself in. My new question is, like, is he going to, granted,
Starting point is 01:13:10 he forgot something's bad, but is he going to face like serious time for this? Like, what are the charges? Do we think it was registered? No.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I mean, I don't think. That's probably a charge, man. I don't know. I don't think the guy that made this is registering
Starting point is 01:13:23 his firearms. You don't think the guy that made this is registering his firearms. You don't think the serial number was clear? No. No. It wasn't? Made some scratches on it? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:13:36 I used to really like this song. You still like this song. I still do. As soon as it came on, I got hyped. No, this is a classic. You know what I mean? I still like this. I think it would still. You know what I mean? Come on. I still like this.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I think it would still be a hit today. For sure. Yeah. I would judge the kids. I would judge the kids if they didn't fuck with that record today. It's a timeless bop. Shit, I disagree. Wait, are Hammond coming back?
Starting point is 01:13:57 And Dipset, that sound is kind of the father of all this shit now. But that's a long, deep dive. That sound. That bop. That's kind of Southern-esque bop. I agree. You are not wrong. The father of all this shit. I want to
Starting point is 01:14:16 agree, but I want to consult with some other people first because people already think I have some type of New York bias when it comes to... I have absolutely a New York bias. The moment I said Dipset really helped put Lil Wayne on, they murdered me. That's wild. Yeah, but that's true.
Starting point is 01:14:30 To us, yeah. That's true. To us, yeah. That is a true statement in New York. In New York only. But, you know, the people in the South, they like to disregard that small tidbit because Atlanta in the South is running shit today.
Starting point is 01:14:50 But they weren't then. That's and to get poppin then you had to go through new york but he had oh they did shortly after no if he had a million no no of course i'm talking about up north gravitating to wayne that's the solo artist up north accepting him that That was through Dipset. Okay. That was through the affiliation, the wallet, biker chains, the fucking all that funny looking shit that was going on back then. I could say that the same way that when I look at Khaled, I can see remnants of Ross and Khaled. Wayne back then was, he had some remnants of some other people. Drew Ells being one of them, mainly. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:15:28 I see you got your Tims on today, too. Cam, huh? I see you got your Tims on today, too. Two. Who else has Tims on? I always have Tims on. Two, as in you're speaking as a New Yorker. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Yeah, I put some. You got your 35 belows on. I put some Tims on Lexington today, too. Nice. It's in a real New York type of vibe and spirit. Yeah, we need to get him some beef and brocks, too. Do y'all care? He has some.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Do y'all care what happens to him? Wait, has he worn my Nike suit I gave him? He probably can't fit it yet. He can't fit it yet. When he's four. Gotcha. I was thinking for the long run. When he's four.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Rory buys my son a Nike, what is it? One of those drug dealer suits. Yeah, but it's a onesie. What is it? Tech fleece? Yeah. That's what Nike puts on shit to make all the hood niggas get really excited about paying $500. Tech fleece.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Somebody tell me what tech fleece is and what it does. Yeah, nothing fleece about a tech fleece. I don't understand niggas. Honestly, I'm confused. That confuses me. Icing out his Apple Watch confusing me. That was it. That was the topic, mo.
Starting point is 01:16:36 What? It was ices, iced out Apple Watch, and niggas running around doing fancy shit to an Apple Watch, looking like fucking utter buffoons. Why does Ice have ice on his Apple Watch? And why is he walking around talking into his Apple Watch? I'm judging every one of you niggas that are running around
Starting point is 01:16:56 talking to the top of your wrist. I used to have one. It was the most useless thing on my wrist ever and I used to wear rubber bands on my wrist. Most useless thing I ever had on my wrist. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I was that guy.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Hold up, man. Hold up. We got to air on that one. I thought I was bodying the outfit when the rubber band was on the wrist. And when it wasn't hanging too much. When I got a hold of that Lance Armstrong rubber band. You were living strong.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Oh, you had me. Come on, come on. I lived living strong. Oh, you hell yeah. Come on, come on. I lived with you. I saw it, nigga. Every nigga had a Lance Armstrong Livestrong rubber band. Yo, we are such idiots and fools. That shit was hard.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah, but that nigga was scamming and robbing us. He didn't even have cancer. Lance Armstrong running, I got more cancer than him. And he running around talking about Livestrong
Starting point is 01:17:46 nigga fuck you so a billion dollars worth of rubber bands that's legendary I'm so glad Nike got rid of Lance that's legendary a billion dollars
Starting point is 01:17:54 worth of rubber bands yeah he was he need that needed its own American Greed episode what Lance Armstrong did oh shit
Starting point is 01:18:01 speaking of that type of shit Martin Shkreli he got seven years for having that Wu-Tang album and that, what other album he got? The Wayne album? The Wayne, yeah. Which, that one I don't believe.
Starting point is 01:18:11 I don't believe that he has Carter V. That might have been a new transaction. Because every time he got a chance to rub that Wu album in our face, he did. That's true. And then I knew of him as the guy who rubbed the Wu album in people's faces until I watched American Greed
Starting point is 01:18:24 and saw that he was the guy with the medicine and he took the $7 shit and rose it to $450. And then, yeah, it was a lot going on. They wanted him to fuck out of here. Yeah, he got seven years. Got it. OJ, have we seen OJ? Have you guys seen the OJ
Starting point is 01:18:39 interview? I did see it. It was one of the wildest things I think I've ever seen in my life. He did it. Yeah, he did it. No, he did it. He did it. He did it. Yo, come on. You can't trick me with the fake hypothetical.
Starting point is 01:18:50 How do you hypothetically see me? Hypothetically, yeah. I grabbed the knife off the front of the seat. Get the fuck out of here. You did it, man. Because I always kept the knife under the seat. Yeah. OJ was bugging.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Dog, he talked about how he felt after he did it in regular person. Right. Yeah, he kept bouncing back. Yeah, he he did it in like regular person yeah he definitely first of all why on earth are you hypothetically killing the mother of your kids yeah even if even if for some godforsaken reason he was not uh uh guilty of it why would you have to be a different kind of fucked up to go into that you'd have to be like someone that would murder your wife y'all not listening he did it he did, I'm with you. No.
Starting point is 01:19:26 No, he did do it. He did. But listen. So the interview was a little strange. Well, a lot strange. But just last week, I was repping for OJ a little bit. Like I said, that was fucked up there, Fox. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:19:38 I mean, I think it's fucked up that you're going to put out some old footage. We know he took some money to do an interview when times were hard. We know that. We know that. So I get why he did the interview. Why it's being released all of these years later, I mean, you can answer that on your own time. The reason why I feel like OJ did it not even being funny is because when you
Starting point is 01:19:58 look at the pattern of NFL players now that have committed know committed crimes and domestic violence and these things PTSD yeah it's not far-fetched yeah CTE it's not far-fetched I mean it's really not running back
Starting point is 01:20:13 yeah like we it's not far-fetched like we definitely see this pattern he took more than 20 minutes of hits I'll tell you that couldn't resist
Starting point is 01:20:23 I saw after the interview went off they put out some old clip of the girl the woman who did the interview where she said when the camera stopped rolling and i have it here somewhere but i don't want to waste time trying to find it when the camera stopped rolling oj said he had a surprise for me and i'll tell you i was genuinely surprised um and then they showed it and it's oj knocking on her door and then she opens the door and he has a knife and he starts going like this shut the fuck up i'll find it if you don't believe this exists this exists wait there's footage of him doing that yes wait he had a knife on set after he beat the murder rap with a knife why do you have knives okay get away from knives no this was after the
Starting point is 01:21:10 interview no she went to a little office or whatever and he went not i got a surprise for you after the show you bring it to me knocked on the door and that was his surprise him with a knife doing stabbing motions that's not funny no i saw that and I said, oh, okay, he did that. I mean, I knew he did it, but now you're... Show that to them, Savant. Yeah, he definitely did it. The two people that never see anything. So now there's that.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Also, who was the hypothetical person that they said... Charlie. First of all, mind you, the most documented case to history there's been a million documentaries that cover the whole fucking thing on the news no one's ever heard
Starting point is 01:21:51 of Charlie where is Charlie where is he why is OJ the only one that knows about Charlie cause Charlie don't exist but wait Charlie is him
Starting point is 01:22:03 he is Charlie Charlie's his middle name. Orenthal Charlie Simpson. You can't even trust no nigga named Orenthal. That's too hard to say. You only need Orenthal when your tooth is hurting. That was pretty funny. That was funny.
Starting point is 01:22:19 No, listen. So, listen. If I knew nothing else about this case, this is what OJ said. OJ said. OJ said, these are his words, not verbatim, but his words. OJ said he was madly in love with Nicole and he was jealous and vindictive and possessive. Well, those are not his words, but he was clearly controlling and possessive. He said she was cheating on him. He went by the house to talk.
Starting point is 01:22:41 she was cheating on him. He went by the house to talk. Heard some commotion, like sex, and then left. No, prior to that, he said, I got accused of stalking her,
Starting point is 01:22:55 so I went by myself to her house and tapped on her window while she was having sex. He tapped on the window while she was having sex. Now, I've done that before to some of my friends just to like laugh at them.
Starting point is 01:23:06 But you can't do that to your estranged wife who you think is cheating. Yeah. So if you go to your wife's, if you see your wife having sex through a window, what do you do?
Starting point is 01:23:19 What do I do? I'm probably going to call a friend of mine, Vent. Named Charlie. Oh, look how fast, look how fast. These niggas thinking the same lies going to call a friend of mine, vent named Charlie. Oh, look how fast, look how fast he niggas think of the same lies. You need a friend.
Starting point is 01:23:30 You need a friend. Definitely need a friend. Charlie was the lie. You need a, you need a friend. I don't know what I'm doing, but I ain't rolling with the story of he went over there, seen her having sex with somebody and then left.
Starting point is 01:23:42 No, that definitely didn't. I don't even know why he thinks that story is okay to tell. As a man, you can't see your wife having sex
Starting point is 01:23:50 through a window and just leave and walk away. That's impossible. But it was his ex-wife at that time, right? Yeah. Well, they were separated. Separated.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yeah, but even so, you're still going to make your presence known. He said he tapped on the window to let him know what it was and then walked away. He tapped on the window, huh? Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:08 That nigga's nuts. Nuts. Like scary nuts. Scary nuts. Different type of... You know what's funny though? I mean, nigga's been talking about this same case for over 25 years. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Alright, well, that's it, man. OJ did that shit. You heard it here. You heard it here. You heard it on Fox. I get why Fox did that little in-between shit with Chris Darden and all them to keep people viewership and make that shit go two hours for advertising.
Starting point is 01:24:36 But that shit looked like some public access shit from 06. I like that. I'll be honest. I enjoyed that part. I enjoyed that they cut away from OJ saying the wildest shit ever to just see four people's expressions that were similar to mine. I wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one that heard some wild shit. So when the camera panned to them, I was like, thanks, Barbara.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Yes. He should not have said that shit. I knew it wasn't just me. I appreciate it. Chris Darden's sitting there with the eye-eat-ass face like, come on, sir. I told y'all this fucking 25 years ago. The fuck, man?
Starting point is 01:25:14 Oh, Chris Darden. Y'all think OJ had help, though? Yeah, I think there was probably someone else there. I saw. But who? Probably not Charlie. I have a theory. Well, no, it's not my theory.
Starting point is 01:25:25 I watched the doc, and it was their theory. Bad YouTube docs? I thought that not enough people saw it, so I could steal their theory. That's being a good journalist, by the way. That's what I think. They said that... Was it OJ's son? I was going to say, this is the son theory.
Starting point is 01:25:44 This is the son theory. The son theory. They just pulling everybody into this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if I'm going to give OJ's son? I was going to say, this is the son theory. This is the son theory. Son theory. They just pulling everybody into this shit. I don't know if I'm going to give OJ's. He was never in the NFL. The son, I don't think, was he? What the hell does that have to do with anything? It's CTE, man.
Starting point is 01:25:55 OJ's got CTE. Every murder has been from an NFL player? Well, no. No, in this particular case, I think OJ's got some brain damage. Can you get CTE from somewhere else? Boxing. So why do I only hear about it with football? I mean, it's the only real sport where people of that size are running into each other at full speed.
Starting point is 01:26:13 It's such a physical sport. You don't even watch it. Shut up. I don't. It's a physical sport. It's too dangerous. It is, though. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Let's get into the Royce freestyle. Flex. Killed it. CTE. I don't even know how to introduce topics anymore. What do y'all want to discuss seriously? I said he killed it. I'm here.
Starting point is 01:26:38 How did you feel? Of course you feel like Royce killed it because he killed it. I do feel like he killed it. Yeah, he did kill it. Will that opinion change if... Wait, let's talk about it. Some of those verses are on the Prime album. Correct.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I understand that. Right. I understand it. As a rapper. Yes. Yeah. Will that change anything about the freestyle for other people? And then should it? No.
Starting point is 01:27:08 I don't think so. Because now Freestyles Anyways Now, I want to see everyone write their freestyles. I don't want to see anyone actually freestyle. So if it's something that Royce wrote down, I don't care. Let's stop it right there because no freestyle has ever been a freestyle. So I'm saying if he already wrote it and rapped it on an album
Starting point is 01:27:24 I haven't heard yet, it doesn't do much for me.'s still amazing to me okay i'm i'm in a different uh the thing about it is i think we had this conversation before where um this generation of rappers i respect a little more than the past because you know you could you'll cut his mic off you would be able to you would be able you would be able to go on a promo run back in like the early 90s and spit the same yeah verse oh yeah it used to be all across the country and nobody would know like we wouldn't know what rappers were spitting on la radio we wouldn't know what they were spitting in texas and you know we wouldn't know now with everything being so viral and you know footage coming out immediately i think rappers are held
Starting point is 01:28:10 to a higher standard like if we heard those bars like even though we didn't hear these bars because they're on the album the album didn't come out yet right so i kind of understand that but friday by the way friday yes friday but for me somebody like Royce, I just expected him to just have a set, like bars, and just go up there and kill Flex with that. Wasn't on the album, wasn't heard before. Just because I think Royce is just that much of a lyrical MC. You know what I'm saying? Where it's just like he can have bars for days.
Starting point is 01:28:41 He replied to that on Twitter, and he said that unfortunately he doesn't that's a luxury like he doesn't have everything that he writes is to something today and that's why i said i do understand that it's somebody who works as constant constantly as royce does he's got prime 2 coming friday he's got his solo album coming shortly after that i assume i haven't got a date for been about it when does Royce have time and he's such a and write 10 minutes of bars specifically for flex just to throw away yeah yeah no I understand it but I hold him I'm I don't I'm gonna always hold him to that like I want bars that's not you know I mean that you could just throw away yeah I get it too but
Starting point is 01:29:24 in the past in the early 2090s there was a lot of if you go back on YouTube and find some of those freestyles you'll be like oh I heard that verse on a classic album
Starting point is 01:29:32 all of them oh yeah for sure it happens it definitely happens like yeah every rapper it's a common occurrence
Starting point is 01:29:39 I was asking I was asking y'all how do you think fans would feel about it? Because fans are not normally the most rational of people when it comes to their favorite artists. Yeah. So, I mean, I hope that for them doesn't take Sting off of the freestyle. I don't think it will.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I mean, everybody's done that. What Royce did, every rapper's done that. DMX, Big Pun, Mos Def, Cannabis Freestyle. They're all in the booth. It's one of the most classic freestyles. All those verses were from something. Yeah, exactly. It happens.
Starting point is 01:30:11 It's not like... Me, personally, I'm just saying, I'm going to always just hold Royce to a different... Because that's just me, personally. Yeah, I don't disagree. I remember when Pun, Nori, Cannabis, and DMX went to the radio. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, I just thought that.
Starting point is 01:30:27 That doesn't, that doesn't, I feel like that doesn't happen anymore. Well, that can't, that can't, that can't happen. Well, to the kids, they don't care about the radio. Well, the radio is a dying format, one. And two, you know what? Let me not even say that. Because the niggas that could rap be trying to rap together.
Starting point is 01:30:43 They do. Like Cole, Drake, Kendrick, fucking who else? The Badasses. They're not going to do a radio show. They're not going to just pop up at a radio station and say, let's get off. I wasn't going in order. The Badasses is funny.
Starting point is 01:30:57 I meant Joey Badass. That's what I meant. I meant Joey. Joey and the Badasses. That'd be a hilarious 90s alternative rock band. Joey and the Badasses. That'd be a hilarious 90s alternative rock band. Joey and the Badasses. I definitely did say Drake, Cole, and Kendrick. You know, the Badasses. The Badasses.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Come on, stop repeating everything I said. Okay, my bad. I don't know where we're going now. What was that? What was we just talking about? Royce rapping. Okay, yeah, all right. I don't know where we're going now. What was that? What was we just talking about? Royce rapping. Okay, yeah, all right. Royce rapping.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Now, Rap Radar interview. All right, hold on. That's two plugs for Elliot in them. That's a lot, man. You work for Elliot. Shut up. It's a fucking Rory talk, right? He just did a whole Elliot playlist.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Okay, now. This is a story that will go down in the love of the pop history books. Time to really put things to bed. Damn, I thought that clip was longer than that. Time to play it different. Was this a case of Mendeecees having his cake and eating it too? Yes. Because when he wasn't with Yandy, was he with Erica?
Starting point is 01:32:07 When he wasn't with Erica, would he be back with Yandy? Because if both women carried a term, the pregnancies would have some overlap. Okay, now. Royce Da 5'99 on rap radar Ramon you said you saw this interview right Rory did you see this interview I did Parks did you see it
Starting point is 01:32:32 I know we've had this discussion the discussion right we've had this talk here before and we know what has come out of it and there's a lot of elephants in the room I tell you that much here before and we know what has come out of it and there's a lot of elephants in the room, I'll tell you that much. Is Joe disloyal?
Starting point is 01:32:54 I guess that's... Let me play the interview first. Well, no, let me ask y'all first. Is Joe disloyal? I don't know if I would say disloyal but i could see why somebody would say that i think the only place that royce misspoke was when he was saying when you use the race thing with m because i do specifically you remember saying whoever was in charge of presenting how this looked because you said you did not think it was eminem because he is not someone that's
Starting point is 01:33:22 going to use that card to sell records. But he said maybe Paul or somebody at the label made it look that way. So I think Royce was misspoke there. Okay. Is that the only place? Let's hear it again. Let's play some of it. I think with that particular situation,
Starting point is 01:33:42 I think he's entitled to his opinion just like anybody else. But it goes back to the dignity thing that I spoke about. The dignity thing. The loyalty. I could speak, I could say, yo, I don't like every single Eminem song that ever came out.
Starting point is 01:33:59 And I'm entitled to that opinion. I can even say that. But there's a such thing as going past the realm of what your opinion is and making it so that it sounds like you're trying to sway people's judgment. Okay. For a long time, I had problems with bloggers back in the day because I felt like when they rated my albums, they weren't fair. They rated them based off of what they interpreted my buzz to be or they rated it based off of what they thought was some cool shit to say and it was i always felt like it was at my expense so i always took it personal i agree so joe somebody being an artist i thought if anybody he would understand how important it is that you walk eggshells around
Starting point is 01:34:42 each other's art that's just how we do. You know, so, like, if Marshall plays me something or if I play him something, if he don't like it, there's been plenty of times he didn't like beats and shit like that, what he'll do is he'll tell me something good about it and then he'll tell me what he doesn't like about it. But we do it so constructively that it helps us. Let me stop it right there. Give me your thoughts on what he just said.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Actually, let me give you my thoughts and then y'all reply. That sound like he just said we sugarcoat each other's shit. No, well, not sugarcoat. When you say there's plenty of songs that I don't like by whoever. Let me take it out of Royce and Em. If I come to you and say, I don't like your song, but I'm going to tell you all the things I like about it first. It's constructive criticism. It's sugarcoating.
Starting point is 01:35:38 That is the exact definition of sugarcoating. Not necessarily. All right, so now define sugar coating for me. Because sugar coating is when you... Not saying what you really mean. Right. To the full extent. Like, what he's saying is...
Starting point is 01:35:53 So this is not sugar coating. No, his is a strategy to say, all right, I know you're attached to this because you created it and you're an artist and I've been in these shoes before. So let me start out... That's not what he just said, though. I thought that's exactly what he just said.
Starting point is 01:36:05 All right, let me play it again. And I wish I could pull it up on YouTube, because this don't let me just move the marker around. Before you attack somebody's art, especially as their friend, let me start it out
Starting point is 01:36:17 so you don't think I'm being attacked. Eminem is not my friend. He's talking about Eminem. Eminem, yes. So yeah, I'm going off what he just said there before you paused it. Okay, but then, but he's talking about him and him. Him and him, yes. So yeah, I'm going off what you just said there before you paused it.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Okay, but he's speaking about how I critiqued M's project. And then he referenced him and M, who are friends. Do you see where I'm going with this? Well, he was saying more artist to artist, not friend to friend. So how you speak to your friend, how you speak to your friend, fuck artist to artist. How you speak to your friend and how you speak to someone who is not your friend are two different things.
Starting point is 01:36:53 That's a fact. True. I don't disagree. But he's saying artist to artist. You know you've been an artist. You know you've been attached to music to walk eggshells. I'm not saying what you should have said or not said. As an artist, you should understand. To me, walking eggshells and sugar'm not saying what you should have said or not said. But as an artist, you should understand.
Starting point is 01:37:06 To me, walking eggshells and sugarcoating are the same thing. Same ballpark. They're cousins. If you're walking eggshells, it means you're tippy-toeing around something. If you're sugarcoating something, you're tippy-toeing around something. You are not getting to the meat and potatoes. You're not getting to the shits. No, but he's saying in you getting to the point and you telling what's real also give maybe uh
Starting point is 01:37:31 another side where it's like as an artist y'all are sensitive about y'all shit so he's saying if you don't like a record cool tell me what you don't like about it but then tell me other things that weren't so bad let me continue with with what he was saying what they thought was some cool shit to say and it was i always felt like it was at my expense so i always took it personal so joe somebody being an artist i thought if anybody he would understand how important it is that you walk eggshells around each other's art. That's just how we do. You know, so, like, if Marshall plays me something
Starting point is 01:38:09 or if I play him something, if he don't like it, it's been plenty of times he didn't like beats and shit like that, what he'll do is he'll tell me something good about it and then he'll tell me
Starting point is 01:38:17 what he doesn't like about it. But we do it so constructively that it helps us. We walk away from that shit feeling like, okay, now I know what to add to it or I know what to factor into the next thing that I do. But that's not evencoating that it helps us that's not tippy-toeing you walk away from that shit feeling like okay now I know what to add to it or I know what to factor into the next thing
Starting point is 01:38:28 that I do but that's not even my main point that's when you're working with other artists especially when you're working with family now the thing that he said
Starting point is 01:38:35 that I really didn't like was something along the lines of people something along the lines of them using the plight of black people to sell a record yeah that was a little crazy to me because that one song that came out before yeah that was a little crazy to me because he knows marshall personally like he's been to the studio he knows that's not
Starting point is 01:38:54 the kind of person that he is and then like if you just look at it objectively if you just look at the situation objectively he took is a much tougher it's a much tougher road and path than he had to take bars what the now before i continue with this let me just say royce and i have had this conversation in depth he knows how i feel about it i know how he feels about it but i kind of knew that you know when once royce began doing his promo that he would have to respond to some of this stuff right um and he and here it is he's responding to it his version i want to play what i said though that's what i want to do because I told Royce and I'm going to tell y'all, I don't think Royce even heard anything I said. I don't think Royce nor M nor Paul nor anybody from Shady Records heard
Starting point is 01:39:54 anything that I said in full or within the context of what you would say. So I'll play it. I want to play it just so we could put this to bed. Friday revival is coming so we got a new m&m track untouchable this is throw it in rice all right throw it in rice okay let's roll a snippet please i don't want to hear the snippet i didn't get a response i can understand how he felt that way because oh here we go all right all right fine we'll let the snippet rock we'll let the snippet rock but after i was reading i
Starting point is 01:40:25 was looking at the royce interview and i remember my conversation with royce and i was reading some of these comments and the question was is joe budden disloyal that was the question it made me want to question the shit that i said so i went back to look at the shit that i said this is what i said it's great content but M is always going to provide great content because he's one of the best words I'm gonna let it play the whole thing I'm putting that to the side this is one of the worst songs I've ever heard and it's giving me a real bad taste about some other things so so now let's rewind a little bit rewind I love rewinding. Rewinding is great.
Starting point is 01:41:05 The part that Royce fails to mention in rewinding and the part that you wouldn't mention if you just weren't watching the show on a regular basis was exactly how many times I either A, avoided an Eminem topic or B, reserved judgment until the album was released. Yes? Fair. Correct. Don't sugarcoat my shit is that true that is and if i am especially and if i am disloyal i want y'all to tell me at the end of my summation but privately too amongst friends you were avoiding it yeah not even on the camera like because it seemed like everybody was trying to paint me into some corner come on it's just trash you can't defend it i refused i refused i just would not do it and again even still to this day
Starting point is 01:41:51 i have not heard that album i've not heard that album and i have not reviewed that album so when you say to me that joe is entitled to his, but he could have done things differently. Well, let me continue to play this. The Donald Trump cipher that I defended, that I love, that I stand by everything I said, because I still think that we need
Starting point is 01:42:21 that sentiment from white people. I think Joyner came here and said the same thing, I appreciate that but a few days later I came in here and said I think that he did that expecting a response and I was just throwing shit at a wall mm-hmm I agree with that sort of interview he did with sway and then he says that it was surprising there was parts I was a little upset I didn't get a response. I can understand how he felt that way because Donald Trump responds to everyone. All accurate so far?
Starting point is 01:42:51 Yes. He's active on Twitter, and any time somebody criticizes him, especially in hip-hop, he normally responds. This time he did not to the biggest white hip-hop rapper. Donald Trump is stupid. He ain't got to be that stupid. That's true. Donald Trump is stupid. He ain't gotta be that stupid. That's true. And him is a genius. So the fact that you were surprised that Donald Trump did not reply to your megastar
Starting point is 01:43:14 ass was a little confusing to me. It's still confusing. But confusion is not enough for me to come on here and trash this song. What do you know? Fast forward. None of this sounds like disloyalty released the track list this sounds to me like a man who is painting a picture to the people that he knows did not catch the context and the 100 episodes that we spoke about him prior to this one
Starting point is 01:43:38 that's what that timeline is for that's what the rewind is for that's what that timeline is for. That's what the rewind is for. That's what the backstory is for. Continue. Without the benefit of the doubt, appears to be utter garbage. Appears. That's what it looks. Let me point something out here. I also was the very last person. To say that that track list look trash. last person to say that that track list looked trash Royce failed to mention that as well you might fail to mention it if you don't weren't watching the show and seeing exactly how many times Joe Budden the uh the the retired emcee slash commentator was asked about em like let it play I have reserved judgment because I think M is a genius, and I know that they are well-planned and calculated and meticulous,
Starting point is 01:44:31 so maybe these features will make sense. I love M, and M is one of the greatest rappers to ever live. I shut up. And then the front. This is what you're telling me niggas call the fence over. And now I'm upset. And now I'm mad. This is what you're telling me niggas call a fence over.
Starting point is 01:44:42 And now I'm upset. And now I'm mad. And now I'm close to having allergies and my eyes tearing up. Because I hold you to way too high of a standard. On way too high of a pedestal. I agree. For the optics. Those are compliments.
Starting point is 01:45:04 This looks bad. It did. That's true. You know what? Let's go further than this looks bad. Let me pause that. Stop me when I am saying something incorrect. Not sincere or disloyal in there. Somebody tell me. Well, they may be looking at you as not a commentator. And when you use words like utter trash and garbage publicly, yeah, you have the right as someone that considers you a friend to feel some type of way. Yeah, say whatever you want to me behind closed doors. Let me help you. Em doesn't consider me a friend.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Okay. So let's stop that. Yo, please. I'm reading it too much online. Even when Roy said it, it yo me and Em he said when me and Em we kick it we talk and I'll tell him how you live y'all are best friends somebody jump in here and tell me Joe is crazy yes Joe's not incorrect here well I don I don't think so. Anyway, Royce and Em are extremely close. Their relationship differs from mine and his,
Starting point is 01:46:11 from Joel's and his, from Crook's and his. There's nothing wrong with that. So why do we keep talking like you're just supposed to grade niggas through the friend lenses? Well, I'm going off what Royce said, because, again, I don't know any of y'all relationships me and em ain't having thanksgiving dinner together okay well he's just saying from a label hey new fuckity fuck niggas let me help y'all that's not a diss it is not a diss that you are not having thanksgiving dinner with people yeah that's not yeah but in this
Starting point is 01:46:39 industry now that goes so i was gonna say because you know with the label loyalty and things of that nature it may be a bit more extended than someone being my friend they are a label mate they did sign me they have supported my career so sometimes when you say certain way wait wait wait repeat what you just said what did you just say that in this industry with labels and things of that nature people have some type of it's kind of a false sense of loyalty that if i've helped your career in a certain type kind of a false sense of loyalty that if I've helped your career in a certain type of way, if I've really looked out,
Starting point is 01:47:08 if I've helped mend your career, there is some type of loyalty there. All right, so let me clear this up for anyone who was confused on the stance of Joe Budden because I think I'm pretty consistent and I don't think it's changed very much over the course of the last fucking 20 years.
Starting point is 01:47:24 I don't think anybody at a major label helped me at all ever ever ever ever that has not changed from 01 to now how joe budden feels about major labels is well documented i feel like they have all done nothing but rob me and appropriate some great creative shit. I just looked up appropriate, so I'm using it. Yeah. So tell me why I'm supposed to feel like. I'm giving you a point of view. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:55 No more point of view from you. That's where the disconnect comes in. And that's kind of why I wanted to talk about it. In this industry with these fucking, and I mentioned it before, these alliances and Roy should have an alliance with them. I just don't get why I'm supposed to outside of the fact that I'm signed there. I couldn't get any more respectful in my in my assessment of the album that I didn't hear in the rollout of it. This is where Royce and I just disagree. And I'll share this. here in the rollout of it this is where Royce and I just disagree and I'll share this uh Royce says you just shouldn't burn bridges that's that's what Royce says
Starting point is 01:48:32 he says you never know when you will need someone in the future so you just should play nice and play ball how do you feel about it I don't I don't live by that well I mean again it's what you consider burning a bridge and it goes both ways like I never want to be
Starting point is 01:48:51 signed to Def Jam that was true before Slaughterhouse was formed I'm not I'm not looking for Paul or Em to save me
Starting point is 01:49:00 so you're signed to Def Jam? Paul is at Def Jam now oh okay I don't know if Em is there but Paul is there I'm not looking for him to bring me to Def Jam Paul is at Def Jam now oh okay I don't know if Emma's there but Paul's there I'm not looking for him to bring me to Def Jam let me be clear where Joe is going in in his destination that the final result can't be altered by people who are not involved like that's a secret that I've held close to me that's why I don't ever care about
Starting point is 01:49:20 all of this blackball and shit what people people say and all that. What was supposed to happen with all of this shit? Was I supposed to not say a word about it? And I'm asking y'all because y'all are my friends. Don't think that I'm just trying to harp on some old shit. I get it. But my thing is, I just don't, you know, again, I think people had the whole you and M relationship thing. You know, they may have thought that y'all were closer than you actually are but i don't think that you were disrespectful i understand what royce is saying as far as art from an artist's point of view how you know y'all are sensitive about your art and
Starting point is 01:49:54 the way you create so some of the things that you say from an artist's perspective it may have come across a little disrespectful or whatever but i don't think that what you were saying in that clip, I don't think that there was anything negative that you were saying. I mean, I always want people to be honest. I don't care about tiptoeing on eggshells and coming across, like, just be honest with me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:50:20 I do get what Royce is saying, how when you say certain things about an artist and his music, you can give criticism, but also give insight on the positive, too. Don't just always spew the negative about it. Unless this is absolutely just nothing positive about it. There was nothing positive about that. Well, if that's how you feel, then that's how you feel. That's exactly how I felt.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Okay, so then that's fine. But I understand what Royce was saying in the totality of the interview. Like, I get what he was saying about that. Then tell me. in the totality of the interview. Like, I get what he was saying about that. Then tell me. Well, he was saying that you have to be respectful
Starting point is 01:50:48 to each other's art because... You just said that I wasn't disrespectful. No, I'm just saying what he was saying. I'm just saying you have to be respectful of each other's art. I'm not saying you were disrespectful. I'm not saying that. I'm saying from Royce's point of view,
Starting point is 01:51:01 he felt that some of the things you were saying were disrespectful because you were just spewing negative about the music. Not as in the person, the music. You spewing negative about the music, the track list, the features, whatever. Like you didn't like it. Donald Trump not responding to freestyle, the Donald Trump freestyle. Like you didn't like anything about it.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Those were very objective, constructive criticisms. And it sounds like those criticisms are being critiqued for someone who is unable to be objective. And that would be Royce, as long as you have such a tight-knit bond with him. I think that a lot of your criticisms, too,
Starting point is 01:51:41 were social criticisms, more so than artistic criticisms. And I think that's a bigger thing to me. But check this out, Barks. If they were artistic criticisms, so what? You are a top five rapper ever with millions of classic albums. You are a legacy act. You are
Starting point is 01:51:58 cemented. So what? Everybody doesn't like your last outing. I agree. Who cares? I agree. When you're Eminem. So what did Joe Budden said this single fucking looks away? And it did look away. But wait, that's the part that I need to get to. I'll repeat all of this shit today.
Starting point is 01:52:16 That single looked away. So when Royce and I are having that conversation, and Royce says to me, yeah, why are you up there talking so passionate about somebody you signed to and i say because i'm a black person and i felt that way that's the end of that conversation for me that trumps that no pun that trumps artists to artists could noodling that trumps you signed somewhere so you should be no i was offended
Starting point is 01:52:46 when i saw that shit and i sound like somebody that's offended i sound like somebody that was offended and that was dodging this for months and months and months and months and months you did i just think that is great i just find that it's great that in that clip and right now you're having the same hat and wearing it the same exact way i think that's like incredible really you're such a you're an incredible act for that this is the first time in my life that i feel like the ball is being dropped on eminem oh great no not by him by whoever not by him whoever is handling the fuck is handling him. Not by him. Whoever is handling him. I don't think I ever even directly addressed him. Do you call taking a Def Jam job?
Starting point is 01:53:30 Probably. But somebody over there should be saying something. Because this is like an obvious take. This seems disingenuous. I just don't like how it doesn't seem sincere it seems like a ploy and a fucking gimmick to sell records which i don't think that you need i don't think he needs that but it looks that way it seems like you are taking the very common water cooler conversation today of racism which I hold near and dear to my heart mm-hmm yeah and I'm rolling I know him so I
Starting point is 01:54:13 know that he is not the person that is do em what do you know feels like we feel I can stand by that I can tell you. I can tell you all that for a fact. If there's one white person that I know don't really see no color, M might not know he's white. What is Royce talking about? Somebody tell me. I know this is dragging, but...
Starting point is 01:54:42 Listen, man. Well, you said y'all spoke, so I mean, I don't know which y'all came to, the said y'all spoke so I mean I don't I don't know which y'all came to the conclusion y'all came to we came to
Starting point is 01:54:50 agreeing to disagree oh that one I love agreeing to disagree we came we came to yeah that's a disagreement yeah
Starting point is 01:54:59 that is that's just a disagreement but I can see the frustration agreeing to disagree it sucks when it's not something you actually said my issue no but but my issue my issue is is this though this this is my real issue and like i said this is like probably the fifth element i'm elephant in the room the
Starting point is 01:55:15 real issue here is had had one person just one person other than me been as vocal as me through all of this slaughterhouse stuff we're gonna have some real different conversations in 2018 see that's the joe beef here the joe beef that joe clearly is not allowed to just to discuss is that plenty of people had shit to say regarding Slaughterhouse and Shady. Joe was just the only vocal one. So then when Joe retires and takes a fucking news job who hangs his hat on fucking integrity and honesty like he has his whole career, you cannot be surprised when Joe is not acquiescing to his rap relationships. There are no more. There are no rap relationships joe does not want an inverse i don't want a verse from anybody it's that i'm not trying to be funny
Starting point is 01:56:11 i'm not trying to rap there are no there's no sugar coating yeah you got a different career path now you know shouldn't that be respected i mean no because that's because that's my other beef with this thing you can't be mad at joe for going to his job and doing his job you can't say oh we supposed to be cool i had no idea what was going on with paul or m or shady or any of that shit how am am I supposed to go to work and... I'm getting information. Everybody else gets information. You're not even arming me to protect you if we're friends, if that's what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:56:53 And I'm going by what Royce is saying. I'm not going to delve too much into this because I'm right about a lot of shit that just has to remain secret. But, yeah, this interview was a little confusing to me and i can't wait for royce to come to my podcast i can't wait for royce to come to this podcast so we can have a 100 we have a nice good open conversation and prime two is out this friday royce is my brother i love royce please don't miss a true this conversation like y'all did the m&m conversation shout out to
Starting point is 01:57:22 royce so at the end of this, Joe is not disloyal. I don't think so. I didn't say you were disloyal. Y'all didn't say anything. I can see why somebody would think you are, though. Whatever. By certain codes, quote unquote,
Starting point is 01:57:37 air quote codes, I get it. I get where he's coming from. Well, in the bro era, you're disloyal. Because everything is bro, bro, bro. Those are old,
Starting point is 01:57:44 old, outdated codes. Well, who's more disloyal cause everything is bro those are old old outdated codes well who's more disloyal you or the guy on twitter that was commenting on sins pictures hardy hardy very funny cause in the bro era
Starting point is 01:57:55 that's pretty disloyal so that probably that probably dragged more than it should have but whatever I don't give a fuck that's important thanks I had to vent guys
Starting point is 01:58:01 appreciate you guys being there as friends yeah of course did y'all hear the Jeremiah EP Yes You like it Yes
Starting point is 01:58:08 No you don't I mean we have I'm loyal Hell no And Hitmaker had a lot To do with it Yeah Hitmaker did it Why don't you like it
Starting point is 01:58:17 I see alright Now that explains Now I see why I'm disloyal Alright no I am disloyal Joe is only on the side Of the music I hear you
Starting point is 01:58:24 Only on the side Of the music So Bird hear you. Only on the side of the music. So Bird comes up here two years ago and plays that H-Town record. We all go crazy and love it. Never heard anything about it. It drops on this four-song EP. Yep. Two of the songs are really good. Two of the other songs, I'm confused.
Starting point is 01:58:45 What is it, Suck Me Till I Sleep or some shit? Wait, let me bring a note you told me. Yeah, I think it is Suck Me Till I Sleep. It's the stupidest song in the world. Texburg, that shit. No, Getting Sucked Till You Sleep is great. But that song, and just that fast, I identified my issue with Jeremiah. Jeremiah's all over the place.
Starting point is 01:59:05 What is Jeremiah's identity? On a four-song EP, he was all over the place. But that's always kind of been his career since Birthday Sex. He's kind of always jumped around. And then he kind of... That's the problem. Yeah, well, clearly. But he was kind of on that party wave early
Starting point is 01:59:25 and then everyone kind of stole his swag. Jeremiah has influenced a lot of what R&B sounds like now and everyone just took it and put it out quicker and it sounded better. So it kind of just left him to be like, all right, I'm chasing my own sound now.
Starting point is 01:59:41 No. You got to go back to early Jeremiah shit. He was on that darker party next door type sound before it became so popular. I'm not even going to
Starting point is 01:59:51 say that that's party next door sound. I'm not going to attribute it to him per se. He was the one that I think really Did you like the EP?
Starting point is 01:59:59 Yeah. I like three out of four. Okay. That's not bad. I like two out of four so I guess that's not bad. Wait. Hold up. I said I liked it. He was like no out of four. Okay, that's not bad. I like two out of four, so I guess that's not bad. Wait, hold up. I said I liked it.
Starting point is 02:00:07 He was like, no, I don't. You like half of the project. Who are you talking about? No, the problem, the H-Town song, Bird came up here and played. I loved that song then, right? But when he played that song, there was no second verse on it. So now that I hear the song with the second verse, I don't love it as much as I did.
Starting point is 02:00:24 It sounded like Jeremiah Sleepwalked through that second verse i don't love it as much as i did like they they sound like he's jeremiah sleepwalk through that second verse but that's cool i still like that song that the other song uh cards right i love that song but berg sent me the reference it's two references i like the references so i don't count that you just went there and sung the references i like i mean and then the other still have't count that you just went there and sung the references I like I mean you still have to count that that sucked me to I'm telling you
Starting point is 02:00:50 about why I feel why I feel bad that sucked me to I'm sleep song getting sucked while you wake up is way better than getting sucked to sleep nah
Starting point is 02:00:58 nah the wake up the wake up is fine I didn't know where to find this song in here I got it you wanna play it depends nah the wake up the wake up is fine I don't even know where to find this song in here uh I got it you wanna play
Starting point is 02:01:09 uh the SMTS shit or the niffle shit SMTS play that song for me please she saw
Starting point is 02:01:17 fire burn burn someone tell her she she hey hey I know don't point at Joe when that's yo
Starting point is 02:01:33 can somebody go to Rap Genius what's the annotations on this what's happening just tell me turn it down a little bit don't stop it
Starting point is 02:01:43 explain it to me. This was not in the 30s. Is this one of the songs that you like? I don't really like this one. Turn it up a little bit. Turn it up a little bit. Zee, zee, zee. I don't really like that song, but...
Starting point is 02:01:55 It's part of the song I like, though. It's part of the song I like, though. I'm trying not to drive. No, it's there. It's part of this record I like, though. Yo, take it back. Yo, turn it down some. Turn it down some.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Man, how's he even talking to the engineer? What's he saying? Yo, take it back, guy. Do. He's sounding like. It's like a new thing in music. I don't know. To sound like Beep beep beep It's like a new thing in music I don't know
Starting point is 02:02:26 To sound like car alarms No because Didn't Future Didn't Future just do that On that kid's record Future does Future But that shit was kind of fire
Starting point is 02:02:36 Yeah but Future is One of the best That shit was terrible I don't I like that shit I like that shit too Future Beep beep beep
Starting point is 02:02:43 Way better than Jeremiah Yes That shit is hard That shit is hard Yeah Get the fuck out of here Nah, I like that shit. I like that shit, too. Future, beep, beep, beep. Way better than Jeremiah. Da-dee-da-dee-da. Yes. That shit is hard. That shit is hard. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, nigga.
Starting point is 02:02:50 I don't want to hear that shit. Yeah, nigga. Y'all niggas is crazy. It's real. But you like that, but don't like this. It's the same shit. Turn this up. And it wasn't slow.
Starting point is 02:02:56 It snuck me to sleep. This was the coldest. Suck me to sleep. Da-dee-da-dee-da. Slump on my neck. It's the same shit, bro. Can you turn this fucking bullshit off? Can you stop this noise?
Starting point is 02:03:09 Stop this noise. Your falsetto's gonna fire. I'm just saying. Malkin sing. You gotta hit them, Chins. Hey, look, but I'm just saying. Malkin singing dance. Is that the record?
Starting point is 02:03:17 This shit is trash, though, bro. So that is the one record you didn't like. Yeah, there's certain parts of the record I like, but I don't like the whole record. All right, now play the other record, then. Yo, Malkin. Yo, I hate you nigg there's certain parts of the record I like, but I don't like the whole record. All right, now play the other record then. Yo, more always. Yo, I hate you niggas that like parts of a song.
Starting point is 02:03:29 You can like parts of a record. You can 100% like parts of a record. Yo, you said you like the Fab Lauren record and hate the hook. Yes, I do. I don't like the way he was saying one thing.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Then you don't love, how could you love the song and hate the hook? No, you can. You can definitely hate the hook. Did you like what Michael said? Then you don't love the song. That's not true No, you can. You can definitely hate the hook. Did you like what Lyle said? Then you don't love the song. That's not true.
Starting point is 02:03:47 That's not entirely true. Give me a song that you hate the hook and love the song. Take the rest of the day. It's been a lot. Underground hip hop shit has got terrible. Don't get Park started. It's a lot. You're going to give me all the Souls of Mischief songs.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Yeah, enough of Park. Play the other song. No, no, not this one. Yeah, enough of Park. Well, play the other song. No, no, not this one. This is the great one. Oh. This is the great one. That's the one I wanted to play. No, that's the other great one.
Starting point is 02:04:12 It's a great project. It's only four songs. There's one great one? That's a great project. Or a good project. It's a good percentage. No. You just did a whole song of
Starting point is 02:04:25 And you got Bring the oohs back Let the flutes out This is better than the other record I didn't mind this record I like this record Go to Rap Genius What did he just say?
Starting point is 02:04:42 Stop it What did he just say? So y'all love the record You can't try to figure out What'd he just say? Stop it. What'd he just say? Na-di-na-di-da. Slap him on the... So y'all love the rap. You can't try to figure out what they're saying in 2018. That's true. Get with the times, Joe. Lyrics don't matter.
Starting point is 02:04:52 I don't care what they say. How did he say it? Hey. It's a little Yachty-ish. Definitely a little Yachty-ish. What is happening? Did Berg approve this? Did Kaiser
Starting point is 02:05:09 Who approved this? This is like someone Trying to do Dream In karaoke Yo turn this off a minute I ain't gonna lie This is my hot take This is my hot take right now
Starting point is 02:05:21 And to all the kids today It's gonna sound like Some old Hater Joe Button shit But this is my hot take 80% is my hot take right now. And to all the kids today, it's going to sound like some old Hater Joe Buttons shit. But this is my hot take. 80% of the songs that's out today, if they were on a demo tape in the 90s. They're getting thrown out. If I give you my demo tape in the 90s. Fuck the 90s in like 2012.
Starting point is 02:05:42 Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. All this shit Ben sounded like demos. All this shit Ben sounded like demos all this shit Ben sounded like demos this is the demo era that's exactly what we in the demo era when I first heard
Starting point is 02:05:52 Future on that Rihanna record I was like damn they left the ref in that bitch no he is the ref yeah that's what I'm saying yeah I was like why is the ref in there yeah and then I listened to it
Starting point is 02:06:01 three times and started loving it right of course I like that though I know That shit is terrible This music is just like
Starting point is 02:06:09 The writer trying to get The melody And the hook Alright we'll fill the words in after Did y'all hear the Did y'all hear Wale's Wale's new shit Loved it
Starting point is 02:06:18 It's complicated Yeah Wale's getting back to What worked for him The best I still like the What was the one that came out before? The, damn, the single he just put out last week. Not going to help you.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Just want you trying to figure it out. I listen to it on the way here. I love when you, yo, what was that? You know this shit. Not helping. That was still my favorite record that he's put out of all this. Yo, Wale's EP is really good. Ice pissed me off earlier and made me hate it
Starting point is 02:06:49 because I just randomly was on a timeline. Iced him up. Yo, Wale leaving Atlantic was the best thing to ever happen to him. He getting back to that old Wale. He put out an EP. He put out an EP. Wait, but didn't he Yes you know
Starting point is 02:07:06 He's got Ice on his Apple watch You don't think he's a hype beast But isn't he like Still signed there though Ice Ice too Ice is signed to Apple He been signed to Apple
Starting point is 02:07:16 Wait no Wale's not still signed to Atlantic We just called Kaiser Last week on the podcast You probably weren't listening Because the label execs Never lied before. No, Kaiser? No way.
Starting point is 02:07:27 I don't think he's a liar. Well, it's on MMG. Is that not signed to Atlantic? No, that's not signed to Atlantic. Whatever, man. Warner owns Atlantic. Rory being funny, but he knows so he's confusing people. Let me just help y'all.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Wale being on MMG does not mean he assigned to Atlantic. Correct. You know that. I know. Right? But Warner owns Atlantic. So he's still in the parent company that signed his check. What is it, fact day?
Starting point is 02:07:54 His check is going to say Warner no matter what. No, it's not, I don't think. No, it's not. It'll say Warner. What check is Wale getting that's going to say Warner? I think they all probably said Warner I could be wrong about that
Starting point is 02:08:06 Def Jam check said Universal that's true how does the Def Jam check look like a Universal check when are when are all these artists getting checks from the label
Starting point is 02:08:14 that's my question that's a funny question yeah what is Wale talking about that's funny I've never seen a check from a label but whatever shout out to Wale
Starting point is 02:08:23 shout out to Wale we have not dissected any of the music. No, it's good. It's dope. He got back to that shit that really made him mainstream popular.
Starting point is 02:08:31 Was the Cool Girl Records was still rapping like a man and a woman can listen to it and not hate each other. It's great. Why was Brittany Griner showing her tits
Starting point is 02:08:39 on Instagram? Brittany Griner? Say it on. Say it on. Brittany Griner was Say it on. Say it on. Brittany Griner was not showing her tits. Yeah, yes. And my tits is definitely
Starting point is 02:08:50 bigger than hers. Brittany Griner or Brittany Renner? No, Brittany Griner, nigga. The basketball player? Well, both their titties are the same. Brittany Griner. Listen, man.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Listen. No, no, no. Brittany Griner was not showing her tits. Brittany Renner. I'm joking about Brittany Renner. I was about to say that did not happen. She ain't voluptuous. Brittany Griner was not showing her tits. Brittany Griner, I'm joking about Brittany Griner. Brittany Griner is the homie.
Starting point is 02:09:06 That did not happen. She ain't voluptuous. Brittany Griner? Brittany Griner. Oh, but I'm just saying. Well, neither of them. No, but you said Brittany Griner. She was. That's who I'm talking about.
Starting point is 02:09:15 The basketball player? Yes. She's showing her tits? Yes. No way. How come Maul is always... No way. No way.
Starting point is 02:09:22 Him not knowing anything is better. We have to get him off the podcast. I'm dismayed, my nigga. I'm fabulous. Brittany Griner is showing her titties? No, I'm not. Savon, can you pull up something on your phone
Starting point is 02:09:37 to prove to Maul that things are happening in the world? Don't pull that up. I don't want to see that. She was in the gym? Why is she? What is going on? Gym. Gym has similar tits. I got a theory about all these long torso chicks anyway, though.
Starting point is 02:09:56 Oh, my God. You have theories about everything. Yo, but the long torso squad. The long torso squad. Yo, yo. All right, you don't not notice in the squad? The long torso squad. You're not noticing the squad? There's a squad of fine chicks out there, but they're like
Starting point is 02:10:10 they're the long torso fine. They're like mad big limbed. Tall girls. Alright, I'm getting off of this. No, not tall girls. No, no, no, no. Very funny how you try to change the narrative.
Starting point is 02:10:24 I'm talking about bitches that have big limbs big limbs what are you talking about if you have big limbs y'all talking amongst yourselves real quick big arms big arms or long arms
Starting point is 02:10:37 Alexa has a long torso okay I'm just trying to give you an example let me show them all let me show them all what I'm talking about here y'all know there's also those chicks some have like wide stomachs
Starting point is 02:10:49 but they not fat this girl oh my god now you can't tell here look at this bitch torso so you can't tell right here that's what I'm saying to you hey
Starting point is 02:10:59 on Instagram the long torso chicks are cutting their torsos out wait you know Instagram, the long torso chicks are cutting their torsos out. Wait. See, look. You've never seen their belly button? This is a trick. This is a trick.
Starting point is 02:11:13 This bitch's torso is long. Both of them. Joe is crazy. Joe is definitely crazy. All right, forget it. I definitely wish I was on that long torso beach right there you talking about. You bugging them bitches is doofy. Crazy as fuck.
Starting point is 02:11:31 That's what I'm talking about. You're bugging. There's a squad of... No, I'm serious. You're bugging the fuck out. You're bugging out. You're bugging out. Both of them are not goofy.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Doofy. Nah, no, they're not. That one, you know for a fact, what's the name, is not doofy. You know that for a fact. Don't do that. Don't do that. Both of these bitches is doofy Nah no they're not That one You know for a fact What's her name is not Doofy You know that for a fact Don't do that Don't do that All for these bitches It's Doofy
Starting point is 02:11:49 Which one ain't Doofy She is not Doofy In person No You know better than that I'm done with you You crazy as fuck I'm done with you
Starting point is 02:11:56 This thing is crazy I'm done with you I'm done with you Are you crazy man What's Doofy mean What do you mean What Doofy means Doofy means stumpier
Starting point is 02:12:04 Well I can't look it up, nigga. Doofy means, like, I don't know. Weird, just like, yeah, like, what's wrong with you? Doof. Frumpy. Frumpy. I've heard someone call it doof and mad. Moe be defending mad doof, bitches.
Starting point is 02:12:17 Yeah, nah, nah, she ain't doofy. Nah. She not doofy because she's fine? No, she's not doofy, period. There's nothing doofy about it. I can show you doofy girls. Show me. She's not doofy. I think they both do doofy about her. I can show you doofy girls. Show me. She's not doofy.
Starting point is 02:12:26 I think they both doofy. No. Well, I've never met that other one. That's a really compelling concept. You never really met this one. Yeah, but it don't matter. Morel ain't never met this chick, and he want to fucking cape this man. Nah, she ain't doofy, my nigga.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Nah, nah. Not the first one you talking about. They both doofy, damn it. You crazy. Anyway, nobody knows who's talking about you, so whatever. Was there anything else important to talk about? I think we can get the fuck out of here. Since we got that conversation.
Starting point is 02:12:53 You like that shit. That shit is trash. Hey, baby. Oh, the Tory and Travis? That shit leaked today. Screw duffel That was That was a scuffle
Starting point is 02:13:06 I know but The footage finally leaked The shit Finally We were waiting I was at the edge of my seat After the Tory Lanez song When he said him and Travis
Starting point is 02:13:14 Were about to fight Oh yeah man Let's get into that real quick Before we get the fuck out of here Tory and Travis Bow wow and Chris Brown That's terrible Even on your own tour bus Someone's still gonna have A camera out Tory and Travis, Bow Wow and Chris Brown. That's terrible.
Starting point is 02:13:30 Even on your own tour bus, someone's still going to have a camera out during a moment that shouldn't be on camera. Tory leaked that shit himself. That's the other thing. Niggas got to just start owning their shit. Who was on the bus with their phone out and decided to put the footage out a week after Tory's album dropped? After he addressed it on record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. And in the Breakfast Club interview. Yeah, no, come on. That footage is it on record. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on.
Starting point is 02:13:46 And in the Breakfast Club interview. Yeah, no, come on. That footage is old, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, years old. Yeah, Tory put that shit out. I wouldn't matter to the approach.
Starting point is 02:13:53 Everyone get off the bus. Just you and I. We can fight it out. I still respect that type of fight. What did Travis say to that? Nah, everybody stay on.
Starting point is 02:14:05 Specifically my friends. Insecurity. He ain't coming on my tour bus to kick everybody off and fight me. No. I'm leaving my friends right here. It's my bus. You get off my bus, nigga. No, but Travis is on Tory's bus. Oh, well, then I'm going to leave.
Starting point is 02:14:20 But why am I on the bus of a guy that wants to fight me then? Because I think Travis came on the bus based on some that wants to fight me then Word Because I think Travis Came on the bus Based on some shit That Tory had said In like an interview or something I think Tory might have had a show
Starting point is 02:14:32 Travis was there He pulled up Alright so wait That one small detail Of it being Tory's bus That's a major detail Changes everything for me
Starting point is 02:14:40 Yeah nah that was Tory's bus Why the So Travis walked on Tory's bus To get chumped I mean I don't think he knew It was gonna go that way thing for me. Yeah, no, that was Tory's bus. Why the, so Travis walked on Tory's bus to get chumped? I mean, I don't think he knew it was going to go that way.
Starting point is 02:14:49 There was the classic moment in there, are you apologizing or is it hands? Because you know how men have the ego and the pride where we're like,
Starting point is 02:14:55 apologize, but don't want to sound like a bitch when we apologize. So you got a little attitude with it. Nah, Tory definitely
Starting point is 02:15:02 was getting his shit off. Tory got his shit off. Yeah, he said, are you apologizing or is it his? Yeah, it was corny
Starting point is 02:15:09 if you guys say that. Why that's corny though? I don't know, I'm just talking shit. How tall is Travis Scott? I don't know. Taller than Tory Lanez. What did,
Starting point is 02:15:19 I didn't watch the whole clip. Did we hear Travis's voice reply? That's what I could hear. Yeah, I could hear it. Oh, Savon heard it. What'd he say?
Starting point is 02:15:27 Yeah, he was basically the cop's plea. Savon said that, Travis. Not us. He didn't keep that energy? He didn't keep that energy. I don't ever want to hear Travis Scott's song again. He a cop's plea
Starting point is 02:15:38 to a nigga with that type of jump shot. Hey, Tony is my nigga. And that's called Tory. That's called Tory. Do we have sleepers, man? Hey, Tori is my nigga Let's call Tori Let's call Tori Do we have sleepers, man? What you gonna ask Tori? If Travis is safe
Starting point is 02:15:54 Alright, man Nigga changed his number on you Word After the album came out 3 2 3 it rang once too
Starting point is 02:16:08 so he saw it damn he saw it yo bro you're so stupid I hate them niggas that think they can tell when you're sending them
Starting point is 02:16:16 the voicemail yeah it was one ring oh yeah listen bro I'm sorry bro sorry bro alright well shout out to Tori that was the appropriate
Starting point is 02:16:24 amount of time to look at a phone and ignore it. Charlamagne tried to pump up something between me and Tori. Oh, maybe that's why he sent me the voicemail. I didn't think of that. It worked. Didn't we talk about that last week? It worked. Oh, yeah, we did.
Starting point is 02:16:35 Yeah, we addressed that. Yeah, but I didn't try to call Tori last week either. That's like I didn't know Jhené blocked me until I fucking went to- She's blocking all of us after this episode airs. How is she blocking us? Because she don't shower. I still don't believe that. She don't look like
Starting point is 02:16:51 the shower type. Nah, y'all crazy. Now y'all tripping. Your mall is nuts. Your mall. I want a list of all of your Hollywood affiliations. I don't have any affiliation
Starting point is 02:17:02 in Jhené. You stole, you stole, I didn't say that. I said I want a list of all your Hollywood affiliations. I saw some chick any affiliations. You stole, you stole, I didn't say that. I said I want a list of all your Hollywood affiliations. I saw some chick, a clip of Kris Jenner doing the whole
Starting point is 02:17:10 you drop the name, pick it up thing. I saw it. So you stole that from Kris Jenner. No, I didn't. Yes, you did. Or she stole it from him.
Starting point is 02:17:16 Oh, please. First of all, Kris Jenner stole something from you. I don't know which she stole. Well, who did it first? I didn't. They stole Kanye West. Well, how do you know if you don't know when she did it Well, who did it first? I did. They stole Kanye West.
Starting point is 02:17:25 Well, how do you know if you don't know when she did it? That clip just came out, right? So you saw the clip. Oh. He was behind the camera. When did I do it? When did I do that?
Starting point is 02:17:35 You know these things are filmed well before they're aired. I mean, you tell me. What was that? Slamming his whole laptop. Joe is the clumsiest. Do you guys think Bruno Mars is cultural appropriation? That is exactly why I had to look up the word appropriation
Starting point is 02:17:50 I think Bruno has a perm Yeah we got sleepers I'm just saying You was great on this podcast when you first came too Like that's why we made you stay I'm still great on this podcast when you first came, too. That's why we made you stay. I'm still great on this podcast. You got me fucked up. I think we covered everything.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Oh. They're doing a Dapper Dan biopic. I'm going to see that. I don't like how you say biopic. I don't either. Joe says biopic. Biopic. Well, I said it wrong.
Starting point is 02:18:20 You sound like some glasses. What's his name is playing Dapper Dan? Why am I blanking? Very You sound like some glasses. What's his name? He's playing Dapper Dan. Why am I blanking? Very funny comedian. Come on. You guys know the funny comedian. No.
Starting point is 02:18:31 Hannibal Buress. Buress. Gerard Carmichael. Thank you so much. La dee da dee da. La dee da dee da. La dee da dee da. This is going nowhere.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Call the cop. How old is Jeremiah making those noises in the studio? Honestly. Why the... Is he trying those noises in the studio? Honestly. Why the... Is he trying to appeal to the kids? Alright, fine. That shit is still fire. This one is over, man.
Starting point is 02:18:59 I don't know. I don't know. There's much left. No, no. There's not much left. Oh, we didn't even talk about the Bruno Mars shit. But what I will say is Shorty that said all of that stuff about Bruno Mars, she was absolutely correct in all the facts that she used to support her argument.
Starting point is 02:19:12 I just don't think he's appropriate in the culture. Yeah, no, I don't either. You can't appropriate the culture when at every chance you get, you let people know where this style of music comes from and you pay homage I think was she more so and I don't know that's a lot of homage yeah
Starting point is 02:19:29 I think she was more so trying to say that the industry is like pushing him because he's not black I think that's what she was trying to say
Starting point is 02:19:38 that's America yeah so I don't think that's Bruno's fault but yeah that's my thing I just don't think Bruno should get caught up in all this fucking flack for winning an award or for the Academy or how the board does things.
Starting point is 02:19:51 I just don't think that he should personally. That's all. Nor do I think it's culture appropriation. Nor do I think that we should still be having 24-carat conversations fucking a year later. It's only been a year? It might have been less than a year. No, I was going to say more. That's a great record. It's only been a year? It might have been less than a year. I was going to say more. That's a great record.
Starting point is 02:20:08 It's a great record, yeah. What, 24 karat? Yes. That's kind of the point. Oh, you're talking about the album? Both. Right. You got sleepers?
Starting point is 02:20:18 All right. Yeah. I don't care. If you think the album is great, then there's nothing more to discuss. Snickers want to sit here and talk about all the albums they think is good that's a great podcast huh oh you know what else was really good
Starting point is 02:20:33 just check it out fuck out of here just cause Joe don't like anything when's the last album you really thoroughly enjoyed from top to bottom I like mad albums from top to bottom the last one. I was one recently.
Starting point is 02:20:48 Top to bottom. Nipsey, top to bottom. Kendrick, top to bottom. Hove, top to bottom. There's a lot of rap albums that I've enjoyed. Black, top to bottom. If you want to get to R&B, there's a lot of R&B projects I like. Top to bottom. Yeah, you're an R&B thug. Yeah, come on. Y'all niggas, y'all play
Starting point is 02:21:04 into that little I'm a hater narrative. That's true. We got sleepers thug. I like, yeah, come on, act like y'all niggas, y'all play into that little I'm a hater now, but. Me, you're a hater, but. That's true. We got sleepers or not? I'm getting the
Starting point is 02:21:08 fuck out of here. We always have sleepers. All right, do you want to play your extra hard rap sleeper first? Sure, guys.
Starting point is 02:21:18 Hi, kids. Oh, I get like an Eminem reference. All right. Thanks, Word. We'll work on colors next week, Word. Don't worry about it. Thanks, man. Emin Eminem reference. All right. Thanks, Rory. We'll work on colors next week, Rory.
Starting point is 02:21:25 Don't worry about it. Thanks, man. Eminem was funny. Eminem. Eminem. Let's see. What am I going to play? Why don't we all listen to nothing while you figure it out?
Starting point is 02:21:42 I'm trying to find something. You were the one that just said we always have sleepers. Yeah, this guy. No, I have one. I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm trying to find something. You were the one that just said we always have sleepers. No, I have one. All right, so you know, Joe Button Podcast episode 154. Let me get my sleeper then. This thing is amazing. Wait, what's my sleeper? I have a sleeper. Go play something.
Starting point is 02:21:57 I played this kid Aaron Ray's single a while ago and his album just came out. Aaron Ray. Rory will play a nigga with two first names. Yeah, man. So yeah, Joe is... Wait. Joe is... There's really something wrong with you, man. Only Rory
Starting point is 02:22:14 has Aaron Ray. Take it away, Aaron Ray. Yo, Aaron Ray's name is trash. You love the single I played. And that artwork is crazy. Anyways. Is that his real name? I don't know the single, I believe. And that artwork is crazy. Anyways. Is that his real name? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:22:31 Fuck what I know. Because if it's a made-up name, then I'm going to kill him way more. If he made up Aaron Ray, not supporting his creativity. Yo, you loved his single, too. Alright, go ahead. Alright, anyways, this is Aaron Ray and Todd Allison on Take. Take. Girl, you know I don't wanna leave you It's the truth, I want you, I want you Girl, you know I don't wanna leave you It's the truth, I want you, I want you
Starting point is 02:23:17 All the automatic ways when we touch base I'm just tryna fuck a bad bitch, it's a good day I'm talkin' out late, I ain't just tryna ball it Try to tame, not to bring that ass around me, okay? No tears, I want it all off No trip, I won't get caught up, baby You got work, you better call off A week, you'll need it all off Baby, I don't mean to tell you what to do But it's all this tension
Starting point is 02:23:48 Just wanna take you Girl, you know I don't wanna leave It's the truth, just want you, I want you Girl, you know I don't wanna take We can We can take our time, we can take our time I'm a long shotgun for a long time Swimming in your pussy, I'm a dive in Your nigga keep blowing up, you're not putting on silent Okay, I just play my rules Tell me we should take it slow, yeah Sex so good, got you shook, yeah Sex so good, got you hooked, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 02:24:35 Babe, I don't mean to tell you what to do But there's so much sanguine Just wanna take you in Girl, you know Girl, you know I don't wanna leave It's the truth, just want you, I want you Girl, you know I don't wanna leave It's the truth.
Starting point is 02:25:05 I want you. That's right. 101.9. Brand new music from Aaron Ray featuring Ty Dolla $ign. That one is called Shame. It's called Take. Or Take. Skrt. Rory, Rory, Rory Yo, every song Rory likes
Starting point is 02:25:36 Get the breakdown Yeah Turn this shit off, Aaron Rory Wow He killed the breakdown, too. Want to turn your la-di-da's down, bro? Sorry, man. I was in a vibe.
Starting point is 02:26:03 The la-di- dives are helping. This shit ain't musical bliss at the end. Musical bliss is funny. This shit ain't musical bliss. Musical bliss. Musical bliss is one of them terms that the music snobs use. I'm glad the era of the music snob is dead well no it's not no it's not you're one of them no i'm not no i'm not no i'm not i don't even listen to enough uh music
Starting point is 02:26:34 to be a music snob like i listen to the music i like it's a music snob thing to say no the music snob niggas be like now they have the weird shit That you've never heard of before It's like Japanese folk music Your opinion's invalid If you never even heard the fourth album from Doom They shame you for not knowing shit No one knows Sorry that I'm not up to speed On all my MF Doom
Starting point is 02:26:58 You didn't hear the unreleased B-side? That was unreleased bro No I didn't hear it Sorryleased B-side? It was unreleased, bro. No, I didn't hear it. Sorry. And I love MF Doom. Shazzy Doom. All right, so... All right, I'm going to play Jeremiah.
Starting point is 02:27:16 Man, no. No. What do you mean, man? No. After you just said the project was not good? I didn't say it was not good, did I? Oh, my God. Come on.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Well, I recanted, if two out of four songs is good, then it's good. That's true. But y'all know how I feel about four-song projects. I'm off of these EPs. Like, stop it, nigga.
Starting point is 02:27:36 When is a Jeremiah album coming out? I want to hear a Jeremiah album or a Jeremiah and Ty Dolla album, the Minty album, something, not this EP. There shouldn't be any fluff on a four-song EP. On an EP.
Starting point is 02:27:46 For what it's worth. Sorry that my standard is high. If you're making four songs and you're great, you should be able to make four great songs. Especially when you're not the nigga writing or producing it. I agree. Like, if you just got to go perform some shit. But I am going to play Cards Right. I want to play the ref, too. That's the way I do.
Starting point is 02:28:07 But this is Cards Right off the Jeremiah EP. Before I do that, listen to the ref though. That's way swagger already, but all right. I'm shut up. What'd you say?
Starting point is 02:28:29 That girl is super talented that does his reps. Oh, 100%. Shout out to Goldie. Goldie, you're amazing. You're amazing. Got you waiting outside when you see it's me Ain't no other thing but a PYT I'm tryna get you alone in my suite Ain't nobody gotta know, know about me
Starting point is 02:29:06 Keep it movin', don't stop I'ma keep it sippin' till the sun rise Just a reminder for when you're lonesome You can have it anytime you wanna hold some You play your cards right, baby, I'll be ready to go I'm ready to, I'm ready to go You play your cards right, baby, I'll be ready to go I'm ready to Play your cards right Baby, I'll be ready to go Now all I need is you all alone Play your cards right Baby, I'll be ready to go
Starting point is 02:29:41 This all gonna hold me down As I come up, come up, come up Later on tonight, play around till the sun up, sun up, sun up Keep it moving, don't stop I'ma keep it sippin' till the sun rise Just to remind us for when you know something You can have it anytime you wanna hold something You play your cards right, baby, I'll be ready to go I'm ready to, ready to go
Starting point is 02:30:14 You play your cards right, baby, I'll be ready to go Yeah, now all I need is you all alone All I need is you all All I need is you all Say your call is right, baby, I'll be ready to go Ready to go Stand to your record bro Alright You talk nigga What the fuck are you telling me for
Starting point is 02:30:54 Yo this is Vado Walk Intro's trash Try to just come on and shut my shit down. and they get a bird off yeah designer name on the tube side paper planes of the moon rock rap game at the jukebox for the skate key was the rooftop hate me cause your crew pop spill tea how your crew mop i ain't into you niggas why pretend to you niggas i'm not a friend of you niggas fuck broke y'all look lost i'm supposed to win with you niggas one flow dimension new niggas who recommended you niggas? Where the fuck did they come from?
Starting point is 02:31:48 Type niggas that like being around money but don't ever want none Get them clipped for the blunt done Chick on me, I don't want hun Every time your bird fly through, I shoot her down like duck hunt E like fuck is up, son Need that OV back Goofy niggas trying E's back Get a street stat, watch the feedback
Starting point is 02:32:03 I understand I pose a threat Man's man have no regrets Not a fan, then you overslept Like damn, he ain't over yet Montclair pull over vests Rock ASB to hover checks Oh, we call those the hoffers Organized like the mobsters Pour the house with the lobsters Not the type that's quick to wife Every bad bitch ain't the Oscar Like every dread ain't a roster Cartier, check the posture L-smoke, let's smoke something
Starting point is 02:32:31 Need coke, that boat coming Real one don't know nothing Real one won't post nothing Take this, you owe nothing I got work, that owe nothing I just wanna see you win more Trade places like Winthorpe Cute faces get sent for For the 10th floor at the Windsor River road where the bins roll Swimming pool got it indoor God forbid they think him poor
Starting point is 02:32:50 Need ill soft for this 10-poor That's Vado Walk Happy birthday to my nigga V too, man Hey, now your song over, nigga Now the show's over The show's over When I say it's over nigga It's over
Starting point is 02:33:10 How long was that song? This one? It was short Freestyle was like two minutes Okay shout out to Vado Happy birthday to V Right My nigga
Starting point is 02:33:23 Alright And looks like that's our show with us ladies and gentlemen alright Rory's got a job to get to
Starting point is 02:33:31 got shit to do I know are y'all going are y'all going to the Hove concert the Hove Beyonce concert I've been
Starting point is 02:33:41 what's the last one the one before that. Baby, are we going to go August 2nd? What today? What's today? Wait, what? It's March. I don't know what's happening
Starting point is 02:33:57 August 2nd. She won't be there. If your girl says you're going, you're going, bro. No, you know what she said? She said, you want to come with me. So she's going regardless. I'll see what I'm doing. I haven't figured out how to word my text to Jay yet.
Starting point is 02:34:18 Trying to see if Rory can just get it done for us, but, you know what I mean? Nah. Rory got me dubbed by Questlove. Wait, what? I'll tell you on Afterthoughts. I'll tell you on Afterthoughts. I'll tell you on Afterthoughts. You got dubbed by Questlove. Yeah, but fucking bum ass Rory set me up.
Starting point is 02:34:36 Rory set me up. Come on, Afterthoughts, right now. Let's do it. Right now.

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