The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 166 | "Nasty Awards"

Episode Date: June 13, 2018

This week Joe, Rory and Mal begin with discussing Summer Jam and some of the performers who took the stage (7:00). They then comment on Tekashi69's failed attempt to sneak in and determine if he was right or wrong for it and should hee have performed (32:50). Joe also decided to address Ebro's antics on Twitter(47:04), Cyhi the Prynce (1:13:54), K. Forest dissing him (1:17:58) and Peter Davidson (1:57:11). And the guys discuss iHob (formerly known as iHop) failed attempt at strategic marketing (1:45:30). Another loaded episode, salute! Sleeper Picks of the Week Joe: Khalid & H.E.R - "This Way" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duZ85VKPEp0 Mal: Guy - "Get to Know" | https://soundcloud.com/guychoo/get-to-know-freestyle-prod-di Rory: Baker Aaron (feat. Aanu) - "Change" |https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApfFtetkCWQ

Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two, here we are. That's how I'm feeling right now. No, it's not. It's not. I know how you feel. It's not how you feel. Shut the fuck up. Stop snitching Hey

Hey Get him right back though God damn it Fuck Rory Now Now that we here My mellow vibe On a Wednesday

Yo Your niggas is in a mood today Let me just tell the podcast That The listeners Alright Yo, your niggas is in a mood today. Let me just tell the podcast that to listeners. All right. Parks, how you doing, man? Doing good, man.

Parks looks like he's in the most neutral of moods in here. I'm chilling, man. I was up early teaching the youth. The youth? Teaching the youth. I was teaching a little youth class in the Bronx. Oh, okay. Giving back?

Yeah, giving back. No, it was just community service for a parking ticket. Don't let them fool you. Yeah, because when are these parks ever in the Bronx? Often.

Oh. It's got some tings up there. This song might be appropriate for parks. Is this what you'll be doing in the Bronx? Laying your head

on Bronx pillows? No. Bronx pillows don't come with pillowcases. My bad, Moe. All right, mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two.

We here. All right, let me get out my mellow vibe. Shout to Raphael Sadiq right quick. Hold up. Hit my ear horn in this bitch. Get my shoulder. You know what I mean? All right, let me hit my drop in this bitch.

I guess I'll hit their drop too Mike check Mike check One two one two Welcome to the Joe Button Podcast Episode number 166 If I am correct Correct

We've gone at least We've gone at least 150 episodes Without me knowing the episode We've been in the 60s For a while too It's only 66 Let's do a couple more

Well we could've cheated Like the rest of them niggas And started putting numbers Next to Afterthoughts And then we'd be in One The 70s Or live podcasts

Put numbers Yeah Yeah these niggas be cheating Or doing 15 podcasts In a week Yeah cause Elliot You definitely put out 70 podcasts

In that two week span Last year I'm still not off of that And Elliot done been in about Five different podcast deals. Yeah, he has switched labels. There's no talking about this shit, man. You niggas be switching labels without telling people.

He's crew hopping? Yeah. He's got the Jalen Rose contract. How many NBA teams was Jalen Rose on? Now, slow down. I can't let y'all talk too bad about Elliot. No, it's my guy. Elliot's responsible for my media career takeoff, so I feel like only I can talk bad about him.

Elliot is a friend. Elliot kind of distances himself from B-Dot, too, a little bit. Oh, yeah? I'll start rumors. All I do is start shit. Shout out to Elliot and B-Dot. That's family love. All right.

Shout out to the YouTube viewership. Back to the Joe Budden podcast. Parks, Maul, Savon. I don't know where the fuck he is. Rory is here. Erickson is here. Dollar is here. Here we are.

It's been a slow fucking week. Maul is showing me pictures of strange women in the phone. And I don't know what you want me to say about it. Some crazy shit going on out here. Fuck is going on out here. I'm Dollar. We not starting here, no? No, no, no.

All right, cool. So where do you want to start? Let's start where Rory says we start every year around this time. Rory, you went to Summer Jam? How many years have we... Nah, come on. Again? Wait, why is Rory at Summer Jam

every year Rory out there building his brand I see what Rory doing listen man he gonna be hosting Summer Jam in a minute watch what I tell you

Rory is dying to host something hell yeah he gonna host something he is dying to get in his host bag I believe he can host Summer Jam

right now right now listen man I believe he can host Summer Jam right now. Right now. Listen, man. I believe he can. I don't know how to do left to right swag, sir. That's not my lady. We should be hosting Summer Jam, honestly. True.

Why? Let's just be honest. I didn't even know Summer Jam had a host. Yeah. I mean, the people on the radio show come out and be like. Who you thought brought you out when you was performing? No, I thought they had rotating hosts. I didn't think there was a main...

They have DJs or hosts in between. It's all of the people from Hot 97. I don't want to host Summer Jam. I never want to be at Summer Jam. I didn't want to go to Summer Jam when they booked me at Summer Jam. They should let us do the lineup. That was a little bucket list. Well, it was fun

because it was good to redeem myself from when I was high out of my mind when Slaughterhouse did Summer Jam. Everybody was high out of their mind.

Not everybody like the group, but I saw a lot of artists backstage and we were feeling the same way. Oh my God. Hey, DeBursch or Bubble,

nothing's changed. Everyone's still high. No, they're not still. They're not. I haven't seen anybody at Papa Molly. Hey, DeBursar Bubble, nothing's changed. Everyone's still high. No, they're not still. I haven't seen anybody pop a Molly. Well, it's a different high. Yeah, it's a different. Thank God. I'm trying to get that phase over.

Thank God for what? Perk high? Yeah, I was going to say. Sandy high? It's the same. No, those highs are still out there. Yeah. But I'm glad that the Molly era is over.

That was a weird high. It ain't over. People still do Molly? They still do Molly. It's not That was a weird high. It ain't over. People still do Molly? Who still does Molly? It's not real Molly anymore, though. I don't think. Only Maul has it. I don't think it was real Molly.

Maul is the real shit? Maul's the fuck. Not me. He's like, no, it's still you. No, Maul still has ecstasy. No, I don't. Maul doesn't have it. Maul doesn't have anything.

Maul went legit. No, Maul's been legit forever. Oh, yeah, Maul's been legit forever. All right, Mall's been legit forever. Where they do a Molly? Enlighten me. You got them double stack Mercedes. No,

they still do a Molly. They just put it in a drink. You're not going to see anybody taking a pill no more. They just put it in a drink and sip all night. That's nasty. That's what they do.

I never wanted to open a Molly and put it in a drink. They ruined the drink. The Molly water? Ew, that was never going to happen in water. Yikes. You did that? You are brave.

I think once or twice. Irish niggas is tough sometimes. Taste buds. I'm worried about that. Yo, so you went to Summer Jam? Listen, bro. Tell me about this. Why do you go there every year?

What's the podcast been? Four years now? It's the same conversation. But remind me. Because they set us up. It's a full open bar. It's a buffet. You're in a nice part of MetLife.

No, no, no. You have a beautiful view. No. A beautiful view. No, no, no. You're away from everybody. No, Rory. You're away from everybody.

No, Rory. No. It's comfortable. It's comfortable. Then tell me about me. That line has got to stop. You are too industry savvy to be brought out of the comfort of your home by a wine cooler. Excuse me. What the fuck is Rory saying right now?

But were you drinking wine coolers, bro? No, I was not drinking wine coolers. He was at Summer Jam with his Perrier. That's water. That's not water. All right, well, still. No, Summer Jam is a beer. You got. He was at Summer Jam with his Perrier. That's water. That's not water. All right, well, still. No, Summer Jam is a beer. You got to drink beer at Summer Jam.

It's a full bar. All right, I'm done talking, Rory. Whatever you like. Because this is more fun anyway. Maul, tell me why Rory goes to Summer Jam every year. Like, every year is what I'm saying? Like, all the lineups are just hitting you? Tell me.

I don't know. Rory, you got to stop going to some stuff. You have me. I don't know. Roy, you got to stop going to some stuff. You have to start going to some stuff. That's real. Listen, you can't just shit on people

when you sit in your same pool room every day. I'm never going to tell you to go to Summer Jam. Yeah, Summer Jam. But there's some events you do need to go to. You've always been the guy

that don't go to the events you should go to and then go to the bullshit. Yeah. When you told me, yo, why don't you just go to the 42 premiere when the Jackie Robinson movie was coming out?

I'm like, yo, like Will, Spike Lee, all these people are going to be there. Yeah, so you're just going to holler at them niggas. What? What do you mean me go holler at them niggas? Wait, what were you going to holler at them about? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Slow down, slow down, slow down. Tell me the story.

I have no idea what you're talking about. 42 premiere years ago when the movie 42 was coming out. The movie. Yes. 42. It was a screening in Manhattan. Will Smith, Spike Lee, Michael Jordan, all of these people, these prominent people in entertainment.

How did I get invited? I don't know, but we had the invite. And then you was like, I ain't fucking with that shit. Why don't you just go and fuck it up? Why don't I just go? What are you talking about? And then you wanted to see the movie or something. Nah, but it's just

you need to be in certain rooms mingling with people. You never know. You find out so many people are there for you. See, I hate that. I hate that. And this is why I hate this fucking...

That's why I don't have these conversations. It's real. I didn't go to Summer Jam to network. I went to get drunk and eat free food. Who was I networking with

at Summer Jam? But you can never have this conversation because you can't argue it. I was not near artists. Because they're going to say you should be a few places and I'm going to say why

and then you're going to say you never know of the things that could occur in the right room with the right people. You never want to be the smartest person

in the... That's how a lot of these people that are in positions, it just... It was in the right room. Nigga Will Smith rapping on Instagram with his son. I could rap on Instagram with my damn son now i ain't gotta go to the jackie

robinson premiere to do that or you can be on instagram rapping with with will smith i will clean will i don't know i don't know listen man i don't know he sounded pretty good he's still there he's still in shape listen he's still in shape. Listen. He's still in shape. All right. He's still in shape. All right, listen. Will might get you right now. All I'm saying is right now. Some of these podcast jokes, I'm fly with. Listen to what I'm saying.

And I know that we just joking. All I'm saying is Will's latest attempt. We don't know what your attempt looks like. That's all I'm saying. We have a point of reference with him. Yeah. We could at least go to something with Will. We already have a point of reference with you.

What am I going to go to with you? Rage in the machine? Oh. That was a good impression. Rage in the machine? Oh. That was a good impression, too. Rage in the machine. Like, nigga, get that out of here. Will will light you up right now. Rage?

Yeah, get out of here. Rage Will, cut your ass. You crazy? I am legend right there. Nigga, cut your ass up. Yo, this is funny, and we ain't even started talking about nothing. I'm just saying bro That's how it happens

You gotta be in certain rooms What if we would've been like Yo man I've been trying To get at you for a couple years Man we You couldn't If you was at Summer Jam Yeah

We would've ran into each other Then look Then you are like Then look That's like You know what that's like When we went to the Jordan game And you did not wanna go

And then we went to the game And you was like You know what I'm happy I came to this I said nigga Sometimes you just gotta Get out the house And go to certain things And then we went to the game and you was like, you know what? I'm happy I came to this. I said, nigga, sometimes you just got to get out the house and go to certain things.

And you had fun at the game. You dribbling and shit. I told you. You know what I'm saying? You started feeling like you was back in your heyday. You know what I'm saying? Go look at the youngins,

who, man? You want to sit in the house and watch CSI all day. He was dribbling? Yeah. During the time out, he grabbed the ball from Jabari. From Jabari. I? Yeah. During the timeout, he grabbed the ball from Jabari.

I'm like, yo, sit down, man. What you doing? Hit him with the young ball. Wait, timeout. Hold up. We have to get some order. Let me tell you. We need some order. During New York All-Star weekend, the only event Joe and I went to was Dwayne Wade's bowling event that was for his

kids. We walked into- How many times are you going to tell the story? He had his bowling sneakers? No, he brought the rolly bag with the wrist guard and the bowl and the shoes. Everybody was there to just have fun. Joe dead serious. No, no, no. We were the oldest people in there.

Joe dead serious. I was like 22 when I was by far the oldest person in there. I mean, in fairness, if you've been bowling lately, it's hard to find a ball that you can put your thumb in. Yeah, but come on. Charity event? We not- That was at Pete Griffin years, too., if you've been bowling lately, it's hard to find a ball that you can put your thumb in. Yeah, but come on. A charity event? We not... That was at Pete Griffin years, too. Why are we at a bowling alley?

Yo, I end up getting cracked on when... I was just trying to find out why Rory keeps going to summer jail. That's how it always goes, though. You know it always comes back to you somehow. Back to you, Joe. So since we can't get an answer to why... He didn't answer that. Me and my friends go every year.

All right, so give me some insider info or something. All right. This one, I may have been a bit more intoxicated. Oh, my fucking God. Yo, like usually, like last time I caught the hole when Remy brought out everyone, I had insider info. This time, dog, I was at the bar getting to it. I missed everything.

Well, I watched the whole stream, Rory. You didn getting to it. I missed everything. Oh. Well, I watched the whole stream, Rory. You didn't miss much. I missed everything. You ain't miss shit. I'm going to be honest with you. No, but I'm- I saw Marissa.

Yeah, I saw Marissa was there, too. It was good to see Maddie. Yeah. No, but, no, okay. Now, it makes sense now. All right. Figured it out?

Yeah, now, because Rory's close with Ebro. Yeah, fuck with Ebro. Okay. No, it's not what I said. Don't try to makeory's close with Ebro. Yeah, fuck with Ebro. Okay. No, that's not what I said. Don't try to make it cool. Don't try to make it sound dope.

Wait, what's close? You're closer with Ebro than I am. A thousand percent. Like, not even remotely close. I am close with Ebro. But I'm talking about you. Sorry. Sorry. talking about you. Hold on. I had to deflect.

Yeah. I'm very close with Ebro. I like Ebro. Me too. That's my thing. I don't like that fuck shit he be doing on the timeline from time to time,

but Ebro's a big troll. I understand that. I think he admits it that he is one. Yeah, so I'm not mad at that, but okay. So, yeah, but I just got a flash of, remember when they did the interview and Rory was all

on the couch with Ebro together? Wait, I missed that interview. What? You don't remember the interview? Yeah, when Rory was on the couch with Ebro. You mean the only other place I could sit? In my story, it goes Rory was on the couch with Ebro. Right.

And that's it. Okay. So you don't remember Shifford Summer Jam? No. I saw Madi. That's my biggest memory. Hey, Madi. I saw Madi too.

Yeah. All right. So there it is. There's our Summer Jam report. Something tells me you won't get a ticket next year. No. I was a bit upset at Swizz and Timbaland Not at Summer Jam

I thought they was Going to bring people out They went back and forth With the beat battle Which was awesome But Like dog Let me get somebody

That's too many people For them to bring out They did Bell Biff DeVoe Which wasn't even Any of their beats Listen I don't care about None of that shit

Didn't I tell y'all That Swizz was going To clean Timbaland ass up He did I don't know It wasn't that that Swizz was going to clean Timbaland ass up? He did. I don't know. It wasn't that much of a blow to me. No, it wasn't.

I heard somebody else say that and I don't understand what battle they saw. Listen. That nigga was up digging smoke. He played Head Sprung. True.

What? He played it out to Big Ellie. We back to Head Sprung. Wait. And wait. Time out. Wait. And this is where I did feel bad for him.

The Jigga What, Jigga Who beat is super, super, super, super, super hard. It is. But it doesn't connect well without Jigga. And the way that the song is structured, you can't follow Swiss, who is arguably the best hype man in hip-hop history, him and Spliff. I could argue it. You can't have him act out money cash hoes and then have Timbaland's stiff ass get out there

and reciting, yeah, pause, reciting a mil verses over the nigga who beat. Why is Timbaland strutting out to my, yo, spit your flow, get your dough. Timbaland. Can't fuck to my, yo, spit your flow, get your dough. Timbaland. Can't fuck with this Rockefeller shit, yo. Timbaland, sit down.

You lost this round. Before the hook even came in, this is going to Swiss. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, nah. Timbaland got. Me came out in the four-wheeler. That was cool. That was a moment.

Wait, slow down. I don't want to leave the beat battle yet. Oh, okay. We're still there. Well, not still there because we're going to leave it. I was still stuck on them. I love Bell Biv DeVoe. Don't get it twisted.

But in the middle of a beat battle, you brought out Bell Biv DeVoe for a beat you didn't make. It was a little weird. It was a little weird. Oh, if I'd have known that, I'd have started with some Bell Bits bullshit it was great they danced and shit it was cool they did well I need to see Swiss

I think Swiss is going to have a hard time versus RZA that's what I came away from that Timberland Swiss battle with Swiss's shit sounds just louder

and he's just got those loud annoying intros in a good way i mean that in a good way that's that's his strength in the beat battle is his intros which usually are deviant from the beat are so hard yeah as being like that shit is as the four of us being like hip-hop nerds in that sense we would really appreciate the RZA set but if just a straight beat battle I don't, who's beating Swizz? Cause I had just beating Swizz and then I sat quietly in the corner and said well I was wrong.

You had just beating Swizz? I'm a, come on, I'm 28 years old. Fair. I know the young kids. I'm a just I grew up on just. I know the young kids won't understand and I'm definitely biased, but Swizz said in an interview himself that he would not want to beat Battle Preem. That's the only person that I would be scared to beat Battle.

I think it was on Drinker. First of all, I'm Team Preem, so I'm voting Preem against anybody. But what should Swizz have said in that interview? I'll smoke Preem. I'll clean DJ Premier. You said he would smoke anybody else. Yeah, but Preem is over here. Yeah.

Preem is different. Dre would be tough too. Not for nothing. Dre ain't getting smoked in no B battle. Right. I don't give a fuck Who across from him What about

Dre is not getting smoked Nah In anything Nah Smoked You're not smoking Dre Nah Yeah nah

Yeah that's not happening I'm not rolling Shit Nah Dre Yeah Dre could just start With NWA shit Before he even gets to The NAMI and NBI

I feel like we spoke About this before We did We did I brought up A-Rab At one point Cause Swizz and Just Were doing their whole NWA shit before he even gets to the NAMI and NBIA. I feel like we spoke about this before. We did. We did. I brought up A-Rab at one point. Because Swizz and Just were doing their whole

Insta Live beat battle shit. I would put A-Rab. It depends on the room. Depends on the room and the... And if he's doing the MPC. No. Of course he is.

But those have to do with hits. He would have to be against a producer in his realm still. Okay, I see what you're saying. Because they would have to really be doing a beat battle. And if they had to perform, yeah, I'm putting A-Rab up there with a lot. If you're talking performance, then I'm picking A-Rab.

Who I saw at Summer Jam. Period. I forgot that part. A-Rab is better than niggas, and he don't work on his shit at all. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's crazy. He ain't practicing nothing.

A-Rab's kind of an alien. Those rage sessions, he would just wake up from the couch, and I'd be like, what is wrong with you? Yeah. How did you even do that? You ain't practice that? He's like, nah, that's just what I've been doing today. Some of them beats. That second half of half of idols that beat still goes word that beat is that beat in a beat battle yeah a-rap is nice listen all right so you don't have anything to give us

from summer jam oh me came out and a four-wheeler that was great that that was great that looked good uh he did the intro that looked good and as he was doing it I asked myself how many times am I going to want to see Meek do the intro and I said every year I'm going to always want to see that intro I was a little upset at Wayne's set only in the sense that Nicky's coming with an album

and Drake is coming with an album I don't know what if everything he had going on I just thought it would be a celebration you got your court case done Young Money is both putting albums out. This nigga Rory just throws all of our topics out in like a sentence.

The Lil Wayne thing. We got to cover it. I know we will. We're talking about Summer Jam. His set. It was just him. He ran out there for 15 minutes and came back. Of course it was Wayne so he had hits.

Wait, huh? It was pretty short. It was 15, 20 minutes maybe. Was he supposed to only have 15 minutes? I don't know. He forgot a lot of lyrics on stage, so I don't know. Listen, Ebro and I are cool, but he didn't give me the run of show. What?

The run of show. I don't think Ebro's ever going to give me the run of show. That was a good one, Roy. The run of show. I didn't realize he was out there for that little bit of time. It was pretty short, yeah. I had a few people complaining about his set, though. He was singing all his shit.

Wayne has always sung. I know, but he was singing stuff that maybe you could rap. What was different about this set? Was it the records? No, I mean- Was it him? He picked the records. It was fun.

It's just, I don't know. It's hard. It was an intangible thing. The energy wasn't there where it usually is with Wayne. I think that Wayne should do something you forgot every trip. Am I off in that? If I was Wayne, I would do, why? Fuck some, he's been at, Rory, you're right.

At a Wayne show, hell yeah. But slow down. He has done Summer Jam a million times. He's closed it. He's closed it with Ross. He's closed it with... He's been with his friends. Like, at this point, that should be like the living room for him.

So, at this point, yeah, I would go out there and do something you forgot. I would do Hustler music. I'd start wilding. Fireman. But the thing about Wayne is he has a 20-year career. So I'm saying if y'all are telling me and some other people are telling me that if Wayne, a 20-year vet, had what some would saypar set. And it was only 15 minutes. That makes me say, what record was it?

Right. How was the... We know he can perform. How was the crowd? Oh, yeah, his performance, like he was running around doing all that shit. No, Wayne's always been

a pretty good performer. Yeah. But to that point, I would add in, it just, the energy felt... He forgot the lyrics on some stuff.

It just didn't feel like Wayne to me. His tone was weird. to me his tone was weird okay his tone was weird how was the crowd that's what I want to know I was watching it on stream

it's a Summer Jam crowd it's hard to it's so many people in the arena it's hard to really dictate when I saw the year that we performed he broke

MetLife Stadium he came out on someone's set and just everything went fucking insane Summer Jam goes up for like the moments like when me came out for intro it goes crazy but then it's hard to dictate who's paying

attention after that it's like really the high high moments every video i've seen from summer jam was people like not even paying attention to the show like people that was posting like videos on instagram in new york like nobody was even paying attention like you can hear people performing in the background but you also have to remember Summer Jam, especially with all these festivals going on now, Summer Jam is specific to the radio crowd. So they just sit and they wait for the hit they know. Like they don't know all the B-sides or even the third single. They know the radio records. That's what Summer Jam is.

Is there still a radio crowd? Yeah. There's a lot of people that literally sit in their car. They go to work at 7 o'clock in the morning and come home at five o'clock do they have an auxiliary cord a lot of people that's just how they consume their music do they have bluetooth that too the radio playing in the back and a lot of older people haven't gotten to that wait i'm i have the same question for everything y'all saying is there bluetooth at work is there an aux cord at work

everywhere we go the first question you got the wi-fi like what tell me what's happening so where are you that you have to cut a radio on and listen to the rate you know what's funny i got in my car the other day now that y'all say that and the radio was on like 97.1 i don't listen to that i listen to talk radio but uh sitting at my car so i'm listening and enough was on i think and i said holy shit enough broke all of my first records so if i'm retired and not rapping well why the fuck is he still breaking in what's new not to hate on him but what i'm saying is uh nothing changes if nothing changes is what i'm saying what has changed a whole different conversation now that's a that's an in-depth conversation yeah that's a switch from what the consumer now you're talking about who's putting that out. Well, let me tell you how I correlate the two.

When I ask if there's still a radio crowd and I ask all these modern technology questions, like if they're in awkward or Bluetooth at work, what I'm saying is there's still a crowd that is exactly the same. Yeah. There's still a lot of people that listen to the radio. They watch regular cable TV. Nothing changes. Same listen to the radio. They watch regular cable TV. Nothing changes. Same inside of the building. Infrastructure. Nothing has changed, period.

Yeah, we all going to have a different conversation. And I love them. Let me get out of here. And that's not a shot. Yeah, I didn't mean to come run into this. There's not really a place for DJs to do that, particularly, I think, and at least make a lot of money. And I feel like the new up-and-coming DJs, and that's not a shot at Hot 97. They just want, they see where they can DJ.

Wait a fucking wait a goddamn second. Let me hear more about that, about what you're saying. So the only other option would be on streaming services, which are not particularly. I'm unclear on... To being a DJ. You're saying radio is the pinnacle... At least for now.

Until internet radio catches up, at least. And also, it ties in with the clubs, too, because a lot of the people that sit and go to work... I'm not letting Parks put me in that dinosaur fucking state of mind. Khaled exists. He's a...

Flex existed. Calvin Harris exists. I watched Clue have opportunities. Doo-Wop existed. Like, there are people that did some things different or had a shot to do things differently and missed the fucking shot. Right.

No? Right. But they still had a lane to make money being a DJ. I refuse to believe that the radio is the pinnacle for a DJ. It's not the pinnacle. I don't know. It's not the pinnacle at all. But it's a solid whatever is below a pinnacle.

Producing in festivals would be the pinnacle. Yeah, if you can't quite make it as a producer slash artist personality like Khaled did, you can still make a good living being a radio DJ. I feel really, you know what, let me get all out of this radio shit because I'm friends with a lot of these people. So I'm going to get out of here. I feel really bad for, and this is totally separate. This is a new independent thought just inspired from the last convo so it's going to sound like I'm talking about the last convo still but I'm not

but people that just get up and go to work just to collect a fucking check like and I'm not knocking it because it's life we have to sometimes we have to do things but man that's scary that's a scary life it's a terrifying

life what if that's the only life i would not i would refuse that would not be an option for me to be i don't i want to talk to some of these people well a lot of these people grow up in we all over the place this podcast but i'm serious who the fuck is sitting at their job saying this is it? People that they watch their parents go to work every day, so then they thought, I have to go to work every day. That's just the structure they was born in. In a really blue-collar lifestyle. There's something to be said for stability

and health insurance and benefits and a good salary. A lot of people can't afford to take a risk and not be employed. That's separate from what I'm saying. I'm not saying that. I'm kind of lost on exactly what you're saying. I'm saying. That's separate from what I'm saying. I'm not saying that. I'm kind of lost on exactly what you're saying. I'm saying that has to be a very poor quality of life to go somewhere. I didn't even finish what I'm saying and you're saying no.

To go somewhere and think that this is it for life and it gets no better. I don't think anybody goes to work thinking that. People want better. People want more. But what if you actually just like your job? Yeah, some people see growth within their job, and some people find growth out of their job. What do you want to do then? I'm talking about, all right, let's keep this in context.

I'm talking about the people that are collecting a check miserable at what they do, but they're forced to be there. Oh, well, no one's going to argue with you there. That's horrible. That's literally the worst option in life. I think they agree with that, that that's horrible, though. Is that you have to literally go every day. I know. So what I was saying from that was I would refuse that.

If I were in that predicament, that wouldn't be an option for me. So I would like to speak to some of those people to see. So help some of the listeners because some of the listeners are in that position. So what would you do to kind of move around that and get out of that situation or that position in your life? Entrepreneurship is the answer.

You're talking to me who's been on my own for my whole career. We have all the answers. All the information and the answers you need is in the palm of your hands. It's within arm's reach. Anything you need. I remember there was a point in time where it was a long time ago,

but I was tired of carrying the fucking, y'all know how I used to do the Joe Button TV show. I used to carry a little camera around. I was carrying it around my neck. I looked so trash. So I just went in the App Store and typed CA and mad shit popped up oh shit I didn't even know that we could do all of this from from the phone just a little bit of research that blew my mind like when I

learned that everybody in the music business was shooting videos on a 5d you know the first time I got apologize director you know the first time I... I gotta apologize to that director. Listen. Yo, the first time I pulled up to the set and the nigga had a 5D. He was ready to kill him probably. Man. Whose video was that?

Somebody made me do that video. He might have a handheld fucking camera. But it worked. I mean he was at his time. No, the 5D is... Well, a lot of people say the 5D killed the music video, but that's a whole nother, whole nother conversation. Right.

Because it's such an accessible camera, everyone can quote unquote be directors and give you a cheap price at a kind of real activity. Look at Erickson over there.

Look at Erickson. Erickson is really as what he does. But someone that has the money can buy the same set Erickson has, but doesn't have the passion

or the ability to do what Erickson does. And it compromises his clientele because they're like, Oh, I could get this for $500. I'm gonna go grab that kid. Well, the same thing happens to music. And you know,

my argument, it's all the same thing. I was talking to my photographer friends about that. And it kind of benefits people that are actually good at it in a way, because people buy the equipment and then they realize that they're not good at it. So there's actually more people... That's why I never bought one. Right. That's why I never bought

all this shit. I'm like, I ain't about to learn all this shit. I respect that craft way too much to disrespect it. Oh, have you seen my expensive camera? Wait, are we done with our Summer Jam report? I thought we had been done with that. Are we done with our summer jam report I thought we had been done with it are we done with your so what are we 95 thing what are we great in summer jam I don't know if I saw enough of it to rate it yeah I

watched everything they show the Kendrick set so it's kind of hard to grade it in my personal opinion it wasn't more stream Kendrick that's crazy well that's another bag. Where? Kendrick not just doing that. I see some fans be a little confused by that every time it happens. Why some artists

are streamed and some artists are not. Well, we can answer it for you. That bag is too heavy. They want too much of that bag. My contract is to perform

at MetLife. Right. I didn't say I was being on some street not giving you my tour show fuck you there hopefully that clears it up

for you I'd be confused at some of the things that people be confused about but whatever yeah I don't know if I saw enough of it to actually grade it

I think they have to I think they have to move it to another venue really I don't think the open stadium is good for the sound acoustics I think they have to I think they have to Move it to another venue Really? I don't think the open stadium Is good for the sound Acoustics I don't think

I don't think I don't think it's It's good for the show Well it's made for hits Because you know the song So it's easier to hear Yeah They need to move it

To another venue Yeah nobody's even Barely rapping Yeah that's what I'm saying It's the hits You're just here to see The hit records So you know them already

So the sound quality Isn't at the top of your I'm sick of that trend the hit. You're just here to see the hit records, so you know them already, so the sound quality isn't at the top of your... I'm sick of that trend, too. I wish you niggas would just perform your records. I agree. Wait, what do you mean? Why won't niggas perform their records? I agree.

Elaborate some more here. No, they're just rapping over... They're not even rapping over... They're not rapping. They're just playing the record. Oh, I agree with you. they're just rapping over. They're not even rapping over. They're not rapping. They're just playing the record. Oh, I agree with you. They're just standing there. Wherever.

I'm not specifically talking about SummerJet. Well, I'll tell you one of the problems is that's like a bad trend, man. I'd feel a way as someone that is paying this person.

Right. I'm paying you to rap over an MP3? I can tell you one of the problems. No, you're going to rap, nigga. I'm going to throw something up there.

You're going to say one. I know the song. Yeah, I would definitely feel a way if I'm paying you this much money and you go up there and just play the record and rap over it. Okay, so Tekashi wasn't invited to perform, but every DJ played his records in between sets. Because MetLife would allow the records to be played. Oh, it was a MetLife decision?

Listen, I 1,000% agree that it would have been nice to have Tekashi. It would make sense. He's the hottest guy in New York. He should be at Summer Jam. But MetLife is not letting that kid perform. You think it was MetLife? Yes. Huh.

I think Ebro's taking the heat for it because Ebro likes to take the heat for things. But MetLife is not letting 6ix9ine do that. He's not coming into MetLife Stadium. Why should they have let him in? Okay, so because people online were saying as a result of when 50 performed, when he had so much beef, is the reason why they wouldn't let Tekashi perform. Totally different.

50's a businessman. No, no, no, no, no. I was actually there for that one. When they were throwing chairs? Yeah, fucking no. That's when Hot learned how MetLife gives it up. That incident. And when the incidents happen,

they further learn how MetLife gives it up. So Ebro's correct. MetLife is not playing with them. But back then, they heightened everything. They heightened everything just to have 50 come in. I was back there. He came in in some bulletproof shit, but that's normal. That's normal. I mean, it was normal for him yeah he traveled in bulletproof shit but this time rightfully there was a few bulletproof vehicles i said okay this is a little different there was a

bunch of niggas with arms it looked like he was well prepared for the type of death threats he was receiving and who he was receiving them from. Well, at that point, 50 was... And let me point out... Friends. And I don't even want to talk about Tekashi and 50 and the Saints. Do y'all know how hot 50 Cent was back then? Yeah. I don't want to hear about none of this stuff.

We're talking about as far as having a lot of issues surrounding Do you know how hot 50 Cent was back then? Come on, we know how this goes. It's the game. The game don't change. If there's enough money I think Tekashi is pretty hot right now. Yeah, but not Diamond Records.

Tekashi is ice cold compared to Yeah, but I'm talking about the DJs was playing his records in between every set for a reason. No, you're right. Because he's hot.

No, he's hot. He's hot. So this is why I'm saying I think that whatever security measures had to be taken, sit Tekashi down. Listen,

you can't come with a hundred people. He's not going to. Also, hey, let me point out another vast difference. If they tell him that, he's going to show up with 100 guys just to say, yo, E-Ro told me I can't come with 100 guys. Suck my dick. Yes, that's what he does. Wait, real quick.

I just want to interrupt before I forget. Let me just point out one more vast difference that I noticed between Takashi and 50. 50, for as big as he was back then was perceived as a victim takashi don't move like a victim wait the funny thing about not to the masses he but the maybe y'all can help me but from what i see from takashi the issues he has he doesn't really start none of this shit it's always him reacting or responding to something that somebody has brought to him i've never seen him just jump out there and start going at dudes like it's always him responding to something that somebody else is saying in another state i don't even think he has any issues so let me so let me ask you just so let me ask you a question

and and let me preface what i'm saying with i never i really never like to ever talk about takashi or anything that is going on with takashi on this podcast because i don't take him for play play like the internet may take him for play play i do not it's serious so damn it i just forgot where he was going what was we talking about just now takashi but what about summer jam i don't remember 50 yeah but you was asking no more i was saying that he doesn't i don't think that oh wait okay that's my question my question got it got it got it this is my question to you so you put no stock into the act of provoking? I mean, very little. Very little.

I don't think he's... Tell me, how has he provoked anything? By continuing to do what it is he wants to do? Is that provoking? He definitely puts fuel in the fire. By saying, I'm going to... I'll come to your city? Why are you telling me I can't come there in the first place? I've never said anything about any of you guys.

I'm not saying he's wrong in that I don't enjoy the antics. On paper, you're right, Mo, but come on. He takes it. I can't respond to you here. You can't, but here's the thing. He takes it a little further. I can answer everything you're saying, and I refuse to do so here.

We can add that 100 off here, but I can't. Bottom line is, I think the dude should have been on stage. We can add that 100 off here, but I can't. Bottom line is, I think the dude should have been on stage. But let me point something else out, because they're going to hurt ACK too. I hope somebody is somewhere saying that to someone over there. Tekashi may be built for this act is not so back to my original

question how much stock do you put into the act of provoking which i didn't even mean for that question to come back around like this but i think act provokes more than Tekashi does. Somebody is going to hurt him. They are. I do. I think academics provokes way more than Tekashi does. And I'm telling you. And ACT thinks it's just, quote, trolling. But trolling is going to get one of you niggas shot in the fucking face. And boy, I can't wait.

Yeah. It's an independent podcast. we receive support from no one a huge advocate of it's not just twitter it's not just the internet it's not just instagram right it's life people live their lives they just happen to be on instagram and i take it back of course i don't want anybody to get shot in the face. Right. But, I mean, we can't avoid. I just be the nigga that when shit happens, we'll be like, uh, this writing was right there on the wall telling you shit was about to happen.

But, okay, cool. So, wait, so, oh, bong, the act of provoking. Tekashi is in Chicago right now filming himself giving food to the homeless, saying, I'm here to give to the homeless because these Chicago rappers ain't never did shit for y'all. In my book, that's provoking. There's also a video. And listen, don't mistake none of this for me being well versed on any of this beef i am not right this is like a quick read up for me to really see what's going on chicago niggas i hear are looking for him saying he's riding around police security whatever i don't know but i don't even know how did the chief keep takashi should start i have not the slightest i assume it's i think it's because

takashi just said something about chief chief keith ain't spoke in 20 years y'all have never heard chief keith say a word especially a name he has seemed to be minding his business for quite some time I don't follow him enough to know whether those two me neither that's the point we still ain't heard him say that

we ain't even wasn't even breezing the timeline and seeing something like we ain't seen it I'm just simply saying Tekashi should have been performing at some

I agree that's all I agree whatever they needed to do to make it happen just make it happen man I think it should have been performing at Summer Jam. I agree. That's all. I agree. Whatever they needed to do to make it happen, just make it happen, man. I think it would have been a very, very big moment. Then he put up a video of them pressing some nigga outside of Summer Jam. Why am I letting him inside?

I don't understand more, man. More to hood for me. No, but no, because at that point- I'm trying to keep my event safe and sound. No, I agree. I agree. There's 50 see us getting in. I'm trying to keep my event safe and sound. No, I agree. I agree. There's 50,000 people here. But I believe-

And I have a back- I have a mile-long trail of documented evidence to say some shit that I won't say. I get it, but my thing is- The police are watching all of you niggas. What the fuck is going on? But that's my thing, too. There's so much police and security there. I don't get it. my thing is The police are watching All of you niggas What the fuck is going on But that's my thing too I don't get it I'm too old

I'm too old I'm retired I'm out of hip hop It's like $250,000 If they go over the time Can you imagine If an incident happened Yeah but I mean

You have all this security All this police All of these like Okay They chilling, by the way. Yeah. Who's chilling?

The cops. Yeah, but my thing is- They not on high alert. They're there, so it's like, everybody's, everything will be okay.

I just don't, I think people just put too much on that Tekashi shit. Like, I think that kid would, he understood that moment was big for him and I think he would've came out there,

put on a great show And that would've been The end of it Oh wait time out Time out I agree No I think we all agree With that No but I don't think

It would've been any Incidence It's like people Are putting too much Of that on it Oh I agree with that too Yeah like it's just like Come on

I don't think that he Him and his dudes Would've went to Summer Jam and wild out I think they would've went Tore it down Been proud of themselves, exited the building,

maybe followed a few cars. But I mean, I think everything would have been cool there. And it probably would have been cool to see. Now you say that. Especially if Casanova

came out, it would have been dope if they would have had them both come out together. But all I'm saying to them all is you can't understand why he wasn't let in. I mean, I get it.

But I think it was way overblown though. I get why people would have that. This is the eyes of someone that books for the Giants. Like, they see one YouTube video, oh, fuck that. Hell no. And also, I'll tell you,

I don't know what it is with MetLife, but anytime like for example you want to do like a terminal five show you have to check in with the precinct and give them a whole list of who's performing oh that's exactly how i got arrested at the best buy theater yo y'all gotta tell the artists when y'all are handing their names over to the precinct money that was crazy that's nuts no they didn't tell us thanks r should have told you Thanks Rory So yeah I don't know what it is With the state troopers See why you need your white friends

Yeah Check up on your white friends So I'm sure Whatever MetLife has With the state troopers In New Jersey I'm sure they wasn't Like yeah

6ix9ine is fine Why was they saying That he had makeup on He's probably trying to get past Yeah Security That's just what I heard He does have tattoos On his face I don't know if they were Doctored But 6'9 is fine. Why was they saying that he had makeup on? He's probably trying to get past security. That's just what I heard. He does have tattoos on his face.

I don't know if they were doctored. I saw pictures of him without the face tats. They were saying that he was doing it to sneak in. He was trying to look less something. Yeah. He would have got into that stadium like that. Legend. That's legendary

And then they definitely Had to set it on somebody Legendary Yes legend Legendary I'm rolling I like that tactic Put makeup on me

Let's go to the stadium I like that shit I like that tactic Put makeup on me We going 300 deep And we going gonna get in Fuck it I like that man

Fuck it This is hip hop man Fuck it And Cause you know he crazy on Instagram If he would've done an Instagram From like The balcony high shit

In like the third Legend Legendary He probably could've walked In the front gate With a little wig And some makeup Gucci

Legendary Alright fuck it I'm phony I'm rolling Because if he would've Snuck in there With some makeup on And then once he got in

Wait but wait Wait he had makeup Instagram through the whole shit But wait time out Time out Paint this picture for me Pause He had makeup on

And the hair was still rainbowy But he had a hat on I'm pretty sure Yeah Put the whole hood on Yeah he hit it Come on you can't fool Takashi Put a hat on.

All right, all right. Yeah, I'm rolling. If he would have gotten that. And as soon as he got in them stands. Stick you with the blicky. Somebody should just hand him a baby wipe. Niggas, if he got the stiffy off. Got the blicky off.

Drop me off. Y'all ain't gonna lie. I feel tough now that shit only been on for three seconds hold up man you better watch your mouth what what's up

god damn that shit is hard I'm telling you man I'm telling you that shit was why did it come on hard like that that record is hard I don't want to be in no club

did that come on are you kidding me I'm leaving that's for performance right there that's a did that come. Are you kidding me? I'm going. I'm leaving. That's for performance right there. That's a performance. That's energy. Fam. You need that.

Niggas empty up. Blinky got the stiffy up. Got blinky up. Drop me off. Blinky up. Oh, wait. He put gunshots in this shit too? I made sure.

I thought that was verified. I'm trying to take his gunshots. I'm trying to make sure. Two different weapons. You think I'm letting this nigga in MetLife to do this? That's his part. I'm trying to tell y'all.

I'm only rolling if he would've got in. But he didn't get in. So, no. I'm rolling with If he would've got in But he didn't get in So, no, I'm rolling with you, bro, man I'm not, I'm fine The temp is legendary, though The temp is legendary Yeah, man

Pop these niggas like a willy, nigga You a silly nigga And I'm like the best nigga And I'm walking out the door Let's see if we can get it off Fuck it Yeah, man Let's just see Yo can get it off. Fuck it. Yeah, man.

Let's just see. Let me see. Do you see how powerful media is listening to Ebro and these guys? They got me thinking of putting makeup on his chump. Nah, man. This is hard. And this short one is weird. He did it for the culture, man.

You don't respect that. I respect it. I'm sorry. I respect that. Fuck out of here, Ebro, nigga. That was hard putting makeup on. Hell yeah. Let me just see. You should have let him in on the strip.

That's what I'm talking about. If you knew he had makeup on. I like that outfit, man. Hey, Ebro, you should have had your B-1 shooters with you. Nigga, hold on. I'm not gunshot that. Let me talk some shit for a minute, because Ebro, I'm a little tired of you cooning around

in the fucking timeline, too. Let's talk about that. Does anybody see Ebro cooning around in the timeline? Ebro, stop it. Knock it the fuck off. See how Billy get him? Nah, if you don't knock... Nah, I was...

Nah, hold up, man. Look out, bro. I don't see nigga on the street. Crams in my dress, girl. I'm a fucking motherfucker. Yeah, get it. Look out, bro. I'm the nigga on the street. Crams in my twist, girl. I'm a fucking motherfucker. Yeah, get a seat, bro. From the top. From the top.

From the top. New Joe Biden. That's that shit right there, man. Nobody saw Ebro cooning around the timeline with all his kids see ghost bullshit. What do you say? All his Kanye shit. What do you say? All his Kanye shit. What do you say?

It was too foul for me to even try to remember. Oh, no. He's just. Oh, that's what he did. What a fucking loser. He fucking. Ebro, I love you, but that was some real loser nigga shit, man. He fucking took the him Noah.

Oh, my gosh. They're so nasty, all of them. He took the iTunes charts where Kanye was number one. He might have ended up being number one, period. But in this tweet, he took the iTunes charts that said, Kanye number one and eight, whatever the fuck it said. And then he said, so much for that boycott if that's a boycott boycott me or whatever the fuck losing nigga shit he said the itunes charts

are mad phony yeah that's what was confusing to me i'm saying ebro if anybody knows those charts are full gays he is you nigga. You be hot for like an hour and get number one. A good 20 minutes and you get number one. Ebro knows this. So I said, why is Ebro doing this? I said, oh, got

it. iTunes charts beats one. He might have got the good music bag him and Charlamagne divvied it down the middle. That sounds about right. Nasty fucks. Let me not say that because Charlamagne really get mad when I say shit like that. So I'm joking about him. But Ebro.

Yeah, I don't know. It was nasty on the timeline. Nasty on the timeline. Alright, I'm done with him. You nasty. You get the nasty award. You got the nasty award. You got the nasty award. That nigga's ass nasty.

That's a good award. Gumbo had you feeling yourself a little bit. No, I replied to the tweet as soon as I saw it. He didn't say a word. I was waiting. I was glued to my phone. People just want to be cool. Man, knock it the fuck off, man.

All these niggas, oh my God. Is your boycott still successful? Uh, yeah. No Cudi, no, none of it? I'm not listening. I wish I would listen to Kid Cudi today. Today. Man of the Moon still goes, but.

You're right. But nah, I'm cool. I'm cool. That's Rory's generation. Rory's generation. Yeah, my generation. Cudi is like three stacks to them. It's like Marvin Gaye.

My generation really does look at Cudi that way. I know. I'm not even joking. I started to feel bad because I think Man on the Moon is good like everyone else. But I was never really, Cudi was not my guy. I never really cared for Cudi. So I was starting to think, is something wrong with me? I went back to the whole discography. When my whole generation was looking around like, he's the greatest ever.

I'm like, damn. People just love to say shit like that. And it's just like prison of the moments type of shit. I will say, I can see his influence on a lot of music now. I think Cudi is dope. Cudi is dope and his influence is in a lot of places. I'm just mad they canceled my favorite show. I ain't heard Kid Cudi in eons.

His talent is not enough to get me to double back on all of that bullshit that Homeboy said. So, nah. No, I didn't listen to kids see ghosts i interviewed ghost that's dope interview too thank you parks that was great actually thank you i was gonna leave that as a separate time because i didn't want to tell me it was dope i actually want to have a separate topic because i thought it was a really good conversation styles oh thank you man oh styles i didn't say i want to tell you maybe like later on in the podcast oh no i was just thanking you yo listen, listen, man.

You know what? I always fucked with Styles. Always. He's always one of my favorite rappers, one of my favorite people. He's New York. Whenever I think New York, he's New York. Yeah. But when I really was like, okay, this is why I like Styles, we were at SOBs.

I think it was for Royce's. No, that wasn't. Was it Royce's album? Royce was doing something at SOB's. I think it was for Royce's. No, that wasn't. Was it Royce's album? Royce was doing something at SOB's. It might have been Royce's. It might have been Layard or whatever the one. I think he was talking about, I think Walt was talking about the one on Canal. Respect the Shooter. Yeah, yeah.

Was it the Respect the Shooter one? Was that SOB's? Is that the one where he had SOB's? Yes, it was. It was SOB's. SOB's, yeah. So we were at SOB's, right? So Styles is standing like, you know how SOB's is real tight in there.

Right. So Styles is standing right in front of me. He had his hood on or whatever. And he starts smoking. He light a blunt, he starts smoking. So security, I see security like trying to see who's smoking weed. So he made his way to Styles like,

oh, I'm about to press he gotta put that out like i seen in his energy so i'm standing right i'm like okay now i need to see if styles is really sp i need to see how he gonna give it up right now like this is gonna determine if you still one of my favorite rappers styles has no idea i'm standing behind that error but i need to see let me see If you gonna really hold that You know what I mean Yo security came up to Styles

Yo my man You gotta put that out You gotta put that out Man Styles turned Looked at that nigga He said nigga You stupid nigga I'm SP nigga

I'm the ghost I ain't putting I ain't putting shit out I said yes This SP is really A real nigga, man. Because if he would have put that out, I would have might have deleted all my SP shit out my iPod. I was like, nah, you can't let security tell.

Gangsta in a Gentleman would have knocked the same way. Like, come on, man. Don't put your blunt out for this lame ass nigga. But I'm about to say, he made Gangsta in a Gentleman. Best solo locks album, by the way. When you look at Styles today, I know we didn't mean to talk about styles right now but it just happened part of the reason that styles is like just styles like you can't even compare it to no other shit like look at them today

like that's all i kept thinking about in this beef was styles in beef oh and they said the pus pushing shit was bad and disrespectful. I still don't understand how people felt like that. I mean, I get it today, but man, niggas was wild. That's what I'm saying. We got to stop adjusting the rules, man. Let me tell y'all something. When Stiles and them niggas went up to that radio,

man, hold on, man. Yeah. Different type of shit. That shit was different. That. Man, hold on, man. Yeah. Talk about with Puff? Different type of shit. That shit was different. That's when it was like somebody might- Which time? Oh, the Bean shit.

Rockefeller. Yeah, that was a whole separate- That was a whole different type of time in hip hop, though, man. That's when it was like, don't play with me like that. I got Kissing Beans, that beef, top three. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. I got that top three. For sure. The records that came out that shit was insane. I'm not sure what I Beans, that beef. That's top three. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. For sure.

I got that top three. For sure. The records that came out that shit was insane. I'm not sure what I would put above that beef. That you were. Honestly. Nah, there's a... Listen.

That is one of the best beefs, but there might be some that's ahead of that. Y'all are older than me, but for me, the game shit, just because Game of 50 went back, it was like 500 records. It was like every other day some new shit came out it was entertaining as fuck I hated it game was petty I enjoyed it thoroughly

that was one of my favorite in my teenage years beef Joe put out some really good records to Drake that we never responded to but they were still really good records

no seriously they were really they were good records oh thanks man no they were I didn't know no seriously they were really they were good records oh thanks man no they were I didn't know we were joking

or not neither I didn't know I was just gonna chill for a minute sometimes I go back and listen like just to hear like lyrics and I'm like

they were good records sometimes I go back and listen to them good records you dissed a lot of people I dissed a lot of people too that's true

that's clearly one of the reasons I'm retired now I just niggas In retirement You and I mean if you're a rap fan You and Saigon was great

Cause that was Every five minutes too True And Ransom You mean Ransom Well Ransom I can That was a little more serious

All time beefs Let me see Common Ice Cube I feel like we've done this before Ice Cube I don't think we have done this before Huh? Ice Cube Eazy E 100% Ice Cube. I feel like we've done this before. I don't think we have done this before. Ice Cube Eazy-E.

100% Ice Cube Eazy-E. I listened, but I wasn't there. That's okay, bro. We got you. Thanks, bro. LL Cannabis for me. LL Kool Moe D for me. I was really hype about that one

at eight years old. Because Kool Moe D was in the snow with the shades How you was gonna battle Kool Moe D That nigga had panthers and cougars in the snow Crisscross and ABC Oh that one hurt my heart That was real beef That was real

You niggas was getting set on it If you was wearing your pants backwards She's ready to set it on you. It was some pretty good beefs. We've never had this beef talk before. I feel like this is the one conversation. We had to. We had to.

We may not have touched on it as much pause as we are now. Okay. You know, but I will say this, and I'm not going to harp on this Drake-Push thing because it is over. And I'm not going to harp on this Drake-Push thing because it is over. But I see a lot of people saying that Push pulled out an angle on Drake that nobody had ever thought to use. And I'd be wanting to remind people that that is a new angle. Yeah. Hiding a child?

Yeah, it's a pretty new angle. The baby just got here. That's true. But we still don't know if it's Drake's baby. But what I'm saying is... No, that's his kid now. I don't care what the DNA says. That's Drake's baby now. Yeah, I'm too invested. I'm way

too invested, buddy. Sorry. I'm not going on this emotional rollercoaster for nothing. That's yours. That's yours. You better take care of his ass, too. Well, so let's stay here for a second. And, nah. How would we like to discuss? I mean, we're talking about Drake, so we might as well just get the other topic out of the way.

What's the other topic? Oh, I hate you niggas, man. What's the other topic? Can you grab Berg outside? Oh, I hate you niggas, what's the other topic I hate you niggas man what's the other topic alright let's think for a second let's use our brains why don't you just say it

no that wouldn't be as fun the room was a pushing album back no to the girl oh that he was come on more more more stop it. I'm going to blow your cover. You know what the fuck

I'm talking about. You know... Show me the picture, man. I didn't know that that's what you were talking about right now. Yes. She could have just been

walking by while he was coming out of the restaurant. Well, I'm not saying nothing about it yet. I never thought about that. What? I need Parks as my lawyer. That chick was not

walking past that restaurant. Maybe she was just walking by. But why she couldn't have been walking by she was at the bus look at Rory stereotyping no

I'm not stereotyping typical I just I just know that he is a prominent figure that has security and no one could just walk past him that way

so there you guys go I never looked at it that way you fucking assholes never looked at it that way I never looked at it that way so you don't think anybody just walks past Drake? No, I don't.

That's Drake. I don't think anyone just walks past him. I've seen niggas try to walk by Prince one time. Them niggas got tackled. They went to the ground. There wasn't no more walking. It was you. At the airport.

No, that's when I stopped chasing him. Wait, hold on. Who'd you chase in the airport? I, that's when I stopped chasing him. Wait, hold on. Who'd you chase in the airport? Yo, why are the only two people that I've, artists that I've chased in my life, Prince and Memphis Bleak? The fact that you chased Bleak is fucking crazy. Wait, hold on.

Did I just miss the whole Bleak story? I was talking to Savant. You chased Memphis Bleak in the airport? No, he chased him after the show. More, more, don't do that. That's what you told me. I knew you Prince. Prince is fine. But don't do that, though. Nothing against Bleak. If I told No, he chased him after the show. More, more. Don't do that. That's what you told me. I think Prince. Prince is fine.

But don't do that. Nothing against Bleak. If I told it to you in confidence. No, but you told it to me after we was on the pod. Yeah, but don't tell it to Rory again.

I have to listen to the episode? Yeah. I listen back. Go find it. It's in the backlog. It's crazy that you don't hear that story and you were sitting

right next to him. I followed Bleak. That's okay. We all had that moment. Not with Bleak, but I definitely followed some people that I don't know why I followed them. Who you followed, tell me. And why was you following somebody? Like, I was trying to rap.

What was your dream? I don't remember what I was doing. No, let's hear it. Sorry, buddy. I don't know. Yeah, you know. I think it was a, it might have been like an old ball player. I think Penny, Penny Hardaway.. Let's hear it. Nah, yeah. Sorry, buddy. I don't know. Yeah, you know. I think it was a, it might have been like an old ball,

I think Penny, Penny Hardaway, I saw him one day. That's okay. Oh, I would have followed him. Yeah, I'd have followed him. I'd have followed him. No, you can follow Penny.

Penny was nice. Yeah, that's Penny. You don't just see Penny every day. Yeah, shit, I might have followed a little Toy Penny back in the day. Oh, I see Toy Penny.

Followed Chris Rock. I was real hyped to get an autograph from Bud from the Cosby Show. And he wasn't even a main member. It wasn't even reoccurring.

That's a sick ass autograph right there. That's a nasty autograph. That's like the Rick Brunson story. Bud, he signed Bud. B-U-D. Bud. Yeah.

From Bud. To Joe. From Bud to To Joe From Bud to Bud From Bud to Budden Bud to Budden You signed an autograph To yourself You didn't really meet that man But wait

There's so much wrong With this story anyway Why was I hyped to meet Bud? I don't know Where did you meet him? I wasn't even I took my bum ass mom And I was like

Look that's Bud This nigga left home It's faded It burns It's faded out of your shit He was like Yo for real say word I wasn't even looking for Bud

I was six years old man Well whatever Yo I like how when When everybody Well not when everybody But when I'm digging In the childhood bag Like y'all just laugh

And don't like Dig in y'all bag I don't know if I got Any autographs Well we were all Y'all got childhood bags We were all really cool When'all just laugh and don't dig in y'all bags. Y'all got childhood bags. We were all really cool when we was little kids. I don't know if I ever got an autograph. The new autograph is a picture. Wait, you never got an autograph?

I don't think I ever got an autograph. I did. I still have autographs. I know, it's super trash. I don't think I ever got one. I got Patrick Ewing's autograph, but when he was with the Magic. Not even with the Knicks. I forgot he was even with the Magic. I had to go to John john stark's basketball camp to get his autograph who john stark's like we had

to go to the camp and that was like part of our like parting gift you get his autograph parks definitely got his self-destruction vinyl signed by mc light or somebody you know he did definitely got fame from mops yeah.P.'s autographs. Yeah, you know he got some weird ass... I would actually like that autograph. If I just look around this room, I'll find an autograph.

I have a DMC autograph. That was pretty cool. See, exactamundo. You're right. I have one. All right, well, what are we talking about? We just be hopping all around shit.

DMC's okay. You get DMC's autograph. It was his comic book, too. That was fine. Let's see. Oh, all right, Rory. See, Rory's our guy for everything. Rory, you actually did listen guy for everything Rory you actually did

Listen to kids see ghosts Cause you wanted to hear That new Cudi I listened to it too Yeah I couldn't wait Ain't nothing wrong with it Mom was you with me

When we bumped into Cudi In that club Oh I might have been By myself that day Fuck I was mad I was by myself Let's hear the story No

Just you by yourself In the club With Cudi No but that was Did y'all have a hum off No Cudi was real cool He was real cool he was real cool I saw you when you

Prodigy you took the picture I took the picture for you oh y'all more was there you still can't talk about funeral but more was there

for some of my best moments man I'm real glad that him and I got to do that before he passed that's a big 180 between you I was getting up

it's about to go down right here oh I thought it was only me that felt that energy. It was some tension, but then it was like. It was tension, yes. Then it was cool. You don't say. I hate when I got tension and niggas, the niggas I got tension with is with niggas.

Yeah. I hate that. And I hate when I'm the only one with you. That's the part I hate. I hate that more than you. Yo, P was so cool, though, man. He was cool And you know After talking to him

Rest in peace P But Every time I seen P I think that was just Some queen shit He just had The tension face He would stand offish

Well that's the rapper thing You never know Like purposely You never know What the other rapper's on That's old So you gotta always Especially that Especially coming from his era Yeah Not just that era That group of people You never know what the other rapper's on That's old So you gotta always That's old though

Especially coming from his era Not just that era That group of people Like Prodigy is from a Real interesting They had a lot of beef too Yeah they not from Yeah they ain't been through some shit

They had a lot of beefs too Yeah Mobb D right A lot of beefs Just that whole neighborhood I wasn't playing with P I was nice back then Yo

I don't Yo Yo you bum ass niggas Y'all bum ass niggas Wouldn't damn speak my name Back then Like today Podcast Joe

I get it I understand I'ma learn one of you niggas I swear to God You gotta handle Will Smith first Before you start Will Smith

Yeah Will Smith Then Russ Then Russ. Work your way back down, man. Don't just jump out there and just fight the champ all of a sudden. You got to get some featherweights under your belt first. Start at Will, because Will might clean you up and get you right out of here. And now the conversation is different. That used to so frustrate me.

That's like the third nigga on Mike Tyson. I could never beat him back in the day. Oh, yeah. No, no, That's like the third nigga on Mike Tyson. I could never beat him back in the day. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Whoever that third nigga was. You was sitting at the TV for two hours on it. He was tough. Thumbs raw as shit.

Thumbs all swollen. Pressing that B and A button so many times. That's a lot of callous right there. 100%. Oh, yeah. I was so bored after I beat that game. It wasn't shit else to do with that age. You felt so undefeated like, damn, now what?

That's how you started into drugs? Damn, look where he went from Mike Tyson punch out to drugs? When I ran out of video games, that's how we started smoking weed. God, damn. Yeah, that's how you get into drugs. You run out of video games. That's crazy. Running out of video games is sick.

You know what's funny? I would take that as an insult, Rory, if he wasn't on it like that, too. It's like we're sharing that. And speaking of sharing with you, and pause, because I don't want to share nothing with you. But last week when we were talking about Fauntleroy going crazy,

I forgot. Did that kind of how you and... That's the start of our friendship. You ain't trying to tell niggas because it's a corny story, but yeah. It is. Y'all bonded over some Fauntleroy?

We did. We did. Kid had a good taste in music. That's when fontal words were on fire, though. I don't know why. That was cocaine 80s central. What a way to ruin a great idea. What happened?

I don't know. Business. Tell me the business. Nah. Because I got another theory. I don't know. When he's writing for Timberlake and no I.D.'s producing for Hov and other people I guess maybe

the two of them weren't they're just two busy people I got too much respect for No I.D.'s let me chill I think that

it's not like none of them were doing shit they were doing the biggest projects in the world No I.D. took a job

at Def Jam and that's how Janae ended up at Def Jam and this is back then where Common could still give you a verse every now and then. And Fauntleroy was

on fire. That's how the Nas and the Cocaine 80s thing really started because of No ID. No ID's a genius. He's great. Those three Cocaine 80s tapes it's hard to find something with a better three. Are they on iTunes?

No. I don't think so. I don't think they were ever on iTunes. I'll send them to you. Y'all should go listen to those Cocaine 80s records if you never heard them. Classic shit. Those were crazy. All right, so what else is there that we have to talk?

I feel like we've been recording and we ain't talked about shit, but we've talked about everything. Oh, you asked about Kid C. Ghost when you were getting your about everything. Oh you asked about Kids See Ghost when you were getting your jokes off. Oh yeah because you and Parks heard it. Yeah.

So I would like somebody here to have some type of logical. I'm ready to it wasn't all that to me. That's your Parks

you've said that about every album this year. You're right. And you said that about all the albums of the year. This year and last year.

So you think it's the album of the year? No. Alright then. I'm a Cudi fan. I'm a Cudi fan. I'm a Cudi fan. And I listened to it like 10 times.

It's cool, but it's just... The production value, like I said with Ye, it felt like they didn't give a fuck. I felt like they at least gave a fuck about

the production on this album. The production's really good. Kanye's verses are still the most subpar they've been, period. There was one little human moment, one real Kanye West moment

in Reborn, but it was like six bars. It was necessary or most def. It was necessary or most def. It was. I will say that. Yep. Kanye, see what you did?

That's what you did, buddy. Only the two white guys talking about your shit. That's what you did. It's your fault. You did it yourself. I don't even feel bad about that, but I do feel bad that he kind of put his roster in a bad spot I do feel bad for them

but let me not feel bad for them because they're selling they're iTunes number one and two so well I wouldn't say that because his

fuck his roster everyone was in Wyoming though Chris Rock was out there and I love Chris Rock he didn't put anyone in a bad space I thought he did but clearly he didn't.

I'm going to roll with what Ebro was saying outside of the iTunes number. People are still fucking with Kanye West. They still are. Just because you're not, trust me. Everyone listen to that album. That's not true. That's not true. Kanye West used to go gold in a week.

Yeah. What are you talking about? I'm talking about... Wait no no no no no no I'm directly responding to what you said because I keep seeing people say and I keep seeing people say oh no people are still supporting Kanye duh

yeah people are still supporting him not the way they were where's the argument I don't even see how it could be argued it's there in numbers I don't even see how it could be argued. It's there in numbers. He didn't outsell Pusha T by 100 grand. What were those two different? No.

Oh, no. Yes, he did. Because of the late spike. The projection. You weren't listening. This is the first time that he wasn't even projected to sell 100 grand more than Pusha T. Don't tell me about people are still listening to Kanye West. No, the fuck they not.

No, they not. I was specifically talking. I said no iTunes number. I was talking about what you would call the elites. All the people. Because you were talking about he put everyone in his camp. I meant his roster. Yeah.

And I'm talking about the immediates. I'm not talking about fans right now. I'm talking about you had Chris Rock, you had Dame Dash, you had Naj, you had Fab, you had every rapper out there. Like he didn't just,

his camp wasn't in a bad way. His behavior doesn't affect the people that you're naming. When I say his camp, I mean the people that make their living attached to him. So let's go through it. Pusha, I'm sure, well, even in interviews he said he wanted Kanye to shut the fuck up.

But, I mean, it's Kanye. Well, all right, outside of Pusha, who really makes their living off Kanye West right now? A lot of people. Well, let me show you. Big Sean doesn't. Mike Dean. There's a lot of people that make their living off Kanye West. Mike Dean would be just fine without Kanye West right now.

That means nothing. Right this second, he makes his living off Kanye West. Because Kanye wanted to do a project. He wasn't sitting there like, I'm not going to get the bills paid. There's a lot of people. Yo, how deep is that plea bag? You got to plea for all these niggas. All we're saying is that they're making their living off him.

Of course, I agree. Mike Dean would be fine. But right this second. You're not putting me in a spot. If I really disagree with you, I don't have to work with you because I don't need your money. Mike Dean can go work for someone else. He wants to do that. He wants to work with someone he's worked

with. He likes Kanye West. He doesn't need it, is what I'm saying. Big Sean doesn't need Kanye West. Today. Yes. I'm only talking about today. He doesn't need... West. Today. Yes. I'm only talking about today. I agree with that. He doesn't need him. Okay.

Was there a point where Big Sean did need Kanye West? Of course. I'm talking about right now. Would it have been to Big Sean's detriment if Kanye behaved this way during that pivotal time? All right. Now you're changing the entire conversation. No, I'm not. Please just answer.

If you answer my question, I'm going somewhere. Can you answer my question, please? Would it have been to his detriment for Kanye to behave that way at that pivotal time? Sure. Okay. So then why do the rules change today for his roster? You're naming me producers whose talent is independent of... What does Mike Dean do?

I said Big Sean is not... We just had a whole fucking 10-minute talk about Mike Dean, too. You told me he'd be perfectly fine on his own. I agree with you. He's a producer. Big Sean already got his Kanye pass. Saha's still fucking looking for it now. So I can name you his roster.

I'm sure Tiana Taylor wants him to shut the fuck up. I'm positive of it. Nas is Nas without him. And Push had the diss fucking homeboy. So what are we saying? Oh, let me not do that. Push is Push. Yeah.

So he sold 80% physical in a day and age where that's not going to happen. So what question am I not answering? Because I want to answer this. I asked at this point in the roster, who needs Kanye West? Sih High just tweeted the day before yesterday uh oh y'all Masa said

I'm getting seven songs too I know all the fans is happy now wait he tweeted that? not Masa I'm putting that oh I was about to say it's time to get Sy High

no no no no no no don't listen find the fucking tweet Savant cause it ain't too far from it I've been the only one that's been shitting on Saha on this podcast. That is not true.

I ain't been shitting on Saha. Yeah. Yeah, come on, Rory. Don't do that. I saw the few mentions that say that. It's been us. Sarah Huckabee, he should have got a song. He's been the only one in the lines fighting for Kanye.

The rest of them have been quiet. And he put out a dope fucking album. He did a great album. I love Saha's album. Where is that fucking- I just think he's out of his fucking mind right now. Pass me that fucking phone. Let me read this damn tweet.

It reads, How you started with Welp? Man, if you don't get Saha the fuck out of here, Welp at Kanye West just said, man, we gotta start setting these ideas aside for your seven songs.

I said the world will never be the same. All the Saha fans, get ready. This is very disappointing. Am I the only one in the room that feels like that? Let me know if I'm isolated in the island. I didn't know you tweeted that. Because I... Let me read.

Let's read it together. I'm going to obsess over this for a second. Well, Kanye West just said, when was this? This was today. This is 6-11. Yes, two days ago. Three days.

6-11. Yes, two days ago. Three days. 6-11-18. You mean to tell me that this nigga done had a whole seven song rollout for artists that ain't even his? And ain't even say a word to your ass? Hmm. You just in fucking Wyoming? Yeah. Listen, man. Listen, no. That's what I interpret the word just to mean. So. Listen, man. Listen, no.

That's what I interpret the word just to mean, so I could be wrong. But if I just tell you something, I'm just telling you. Right. Just said, man. That's the bullshit already. I don't even like you tweeting. Nigga started with man. Don't do what Kanye just told you.

And he tweeted. Yeah, come on. Get Sy. Yo, I hear Saha's album totally different don't do that man cause then now

I'm here I don't give a I'm telling you what happened this is him doing damage to how niggas is looking at him

with these fucking tap dance shoes he got on his album's crazy you the same nigga a few fucking weeks ago they didn't even add your name

to the credits then take this home the loud the credits get this nigga the fuck out of here great ass album for nothing head ass nigga I'm sick of him and wait here's another reason that's so trash really Saha the Prince

Saha the Prince your rapping rappity rapping ass Is excited about seven songs Lie to my face Lie to my fucking face Your first song on your album Has more bars than all of those songs

Wait wait wait Wait wait wait And so does your second song That nigga album is Shot full of bars Wait, wait, wait. It's not even remotely close. Hey, and so does your second song. That nigga album is shocked full of bars. Each song on there is more than the whole Ye album. But you excited about a seven song rollout, and that's what you telling the Psy High fans to be prepared for.

Be very careful of who y'all follow behind people. Some people are very irresponsible with where they will lead you. Sad fucking day for Saha fans. That's what we excited about? Well, you don't think he's happy? Seven songs from our favorite rapper who we think can really rap? Get your fucking ass out of here. Hey, and y'all did all of that shit just for them to turn around and ban you niggas from Wyoming like I fucking knew they would. I'm hitting my gunshot at you at work.

Tap your neighbor to the left. Tap your neighbor to the right. Turn your volume down. Bitch, it's going down. Are you kidding me? Come on, Rory. Wait, hold on. Come on, Rory.

How did this come back to me on your side? I'm just saying your name, bro. I'm just fucking you, Tony. Just come on, man. Just come on. Am I off? Tell me if I'm off. Because I'm off on a tangent about Saha.

He wasn't on our document. Which are you asking if you're off on? I don't know. The Saha shit. No, I agree with you. I bet I agree with you. I hate seeing niggas tap dance like that

he better get fucking seven songs for defending he's been the only one defending this shit he better get a lot more than that all day on Twitter

yeah he needs a double album with seven songs alright let's see here solid 14 he needs 14 songs oh okay do we have I don't give a fuck

about the double XL freshman list me either I don't know the G About the XXL Freshman list Me either I don't know The JID It's just not for me man That's the only one I don't care about it

I've never cared about it I was happy to see JID on there though Yeah he's nice He can rap Really well Yeah Moe why is your friend

Dissing me on his album Who is my friend Dissing you K-Force He didn't diss you He didn't diss you Pull it up your friend dissing me on his album? Who was my friend dissing you? K-Force. He didn't diss you. He didn't diss you. Pull it up. Pause, if necessary.

That wasn't a diss. What did he say? A diss? I didn't hear the album yet. Alright, well, break it down for me. No, I don't think it was a diss. He just played a snippet from the part. Well, did you keep listening? Yeah. Well, can we hear it? Did you get to the part. Did you keep listening? Yeah. Did you get to the part where you said Fuck Joe.

This is a diss. This is a diss. Don't listen to Maul. You're right. You didn't get to the part where you said these average Joe's something button. You didn't get to that? Wait, hold on. They're still using the average Joe's something button. You didn't get to that?

Wait, hold on. They're still using the average Joe and button bar? Wait, did Maul just say that the average Joe and button bar to me is not a dish? It wasn't to you, though. Who the other Joe button? Nah, but not, I mean, he made a play on the name, but it wasn't at you. It wasn't coming at you. Can we hear it? Nah, that nigga's more than like, he loves the support that we give him.

That nigga wouldn't diss you. Why would he do that? I don't know about this one more. We got to hear it, man. Nah, I'm pulling it up. I'm pulling it up. I bought the album, man. I'm pulling it up.

Nah, he didn't diss you. I bought it. I bought it, so I got it. He didn't diss you. And it was early in the track. It's on the intro? I'm listening, thought I was jamming. How you jamming to a record?

And then you get dissed. Yo, that is like the third time this has happened to me this year. I be trying to really enjoy the song. Shit just come on. Yo, Joe Button is the wack ass nigga. Fuck him up when I see him. I'm like, whoa. Trey, go to your room.

That's funny, man. Hold up. Nah, hold up. Let me find this shit here. Hey, first of all, no, but totally aside from that. It's labeled Resentment Joe Button-ness in parentheses. AK-4 is, knock it off. All right.

All right. Bro, this is on his album? Yeah. I haven't listened to it yet. This is on his album? Yes. So I'm glad that you're here, Rory, because this is what I want to talk about. I bought this kid's album.

This is on the album. And then I turned it on and heard myself. And then as I kept listening, I heard what sounded like a diss. So then I was super confused. I said, oh, that's pretty ballsy, kid. You're not going,

you know what, buddy? Cease and desist is coming your way. I'm not even a cease and desist nigga, but damn. Yeah, so anyway, yeah, Roy, that's how it started. Let me play it for you. Party downstairs. Let me start it over.

That's Maul. That's Maul's voice. I got you. I got you. Maul, did you get royalties? No. Talk about it. Talk about it.

I just want to know. Talk about it. Royalties. Did you get royalties. No, Royalty Mall. Did you get royalties? No. New Royalty Mall. No, Royalty Mall.

No, Royalty Mall. Royalty Mall. Royalty Mall. That's a horrible R&B name. That is Mall's R&B name. Royalty Mall. AK Forest, knock it off. All right.

And when I played it, he gave me a lesson. Is that Bryson or Tory or Party or Weekend? Definitely a team. No, you can't kill K-Forrest and then say you enjoy music in that vein. He did it bad.

His voice. You can't start your album like that. Hold on. That's the intro? No, no, no. All right, you know what? That's the intro? That's the first song on the album.

In his defense, I diss you too. True. You shitting on him right here. True. I'm dissing you too. Let me just say, I have purchased every K-Forrest project

I just wanna I just wanna throw that out there I'm dissing you too K-Forrest you dissing the only nigga in the room that still purchases music

I stream it you friends with the streamers and more get his shit from the barbershop still friends with the streamers the CDs the CD with the cool light cover more get his CDs and the barbershop still. Friends with the strings. The CDs. The CD with the pool light cover. More get his CDs and fucking...

The thin jewel case joint. His CDs and his Yeezys. With a colorful background. Absolutely. With a pink and purple background. Puts it in his boom box. That's funny. Y'all look sick, man.

Shout out to K-Forrest, though. It's a great album. I want to hear the diss. I want to know what's good. Make it just sleeper, nigga. I ain't playing a diss. Y'all want me to let him use my voice on ain't playing the diss. Y'all want me to let him use my voice on the diss?

Sell it. Y'all want me to buy it? And then play it on the pot? Yo, do like Drake. Send him an invoice. Some of the arrogance. You gotta send him an invoice. The entitlement. The audacity. We are living in a world. I'm listening. I'm jamming. Did I hear fuck Joe Boyle?

That was crazy. That was crazy. Nah, it wasn't a shot. I'm listening. I'm jamming. Did I hear fuck your brother? Wait, wait, wait. That was crazy. That was crazy. Nah, it wasn't a shot. All right, where's my phone? I'm having a good time with you guys. Pause. You sighed after you heard that? All right, wait, because right here I have it written down,

and I'm not going to let you guys escape. It says, new music slash K-Force, who we just talked about, slash Georgia Smith. The time has come. Let's hear it. No, I ain't no let's hear it. No, I want to hear you and you. No, you heard it already in the group chat. It's true. So, I would like to hear it from y'all.

You were vague. Watch this one. You were vague. Watch this one. Watch this one. You waited for me to... Maul. What? Maul What?

Maul Have you heard George Smith's album? How you not even Nah not yet right Nah I only heard like two songs That everybody kept Saying to listen to

You know what I'ma get me a line too I didn't I really didn't listen To that album yet The two records I heard Were good though Where's the music at?

Homeboy outside on the... He still pull up jamming? Trying to get his sleeper pickle. That's his record. That's actually swag. That's hard. I'm not even mad. That's harder than Tekashi with makeup on outside.

That's his record. Yeah, that is hard. Yeah, now that there is a complete body of work on Georgia Smith, I just will say I don't feel about it the way it looks like everybody else. She's going to use this as an intro. She's really hot.

Are you talking about hot or looks-wise? She's attractive. She's hot. She's attractive. I thought you were talking about her looks. I like to judge people on their looks. I do. Yes, you do. It's a cool album.

Yeah, her album's cool. I didn't have enough. Listen, I see how y'all feel. Never mind. We'll talk about it later. Don't worry about it. The response has been people saying no. I know what the response has been, too.

I can tell you what the response has been and safely escape the convo as well. All right, so what's next? I know what the response has been to it. I can tell you what the response has been and safely escape the convo as well. All right. So what's next? No, we didn't have much from her for me going in to be like, that's a she's about to give me the most fire. Y'all getting the special premium all excuse package right now. What should we be saying? This is what this is what Joe does.

Yo, it has been a matter of 10 seconds. I was pretty blatant about this. Yeah, I'm talking about these two. If a nigga don't shit on a project like Joe want to. That's what I'm saying. He doesn't, if you don't agree with what he's saying,

they must be lying. And he sits here and says, I hate everything that comes out. That's the crazy part. Bro, I have not listened to it.

But I don't hate the George Smith album. How do you feel about it? I just can tell when the sham is happening. And this is the sham. So what's the sham?

I'm going to get in a lot of trouble for this. Now, fuck you, nigga. You didn't want to talk about shit. Now, what's the sham? I'm asking. No, nigga. Google it. What the fuck?

It ain't nothing. Google it. Google the sham. Google the sham. Google the sham. Google the sham. You trying to walk me out there by myself. Next topic.

I just want to know how you feel about it so I can listen to it and see if I have some of this. I would like you to listen to it and tell me what you think of the music. No. Joe wants to see if you're going to shit on it. And if you don't want to shit on it, we're just going to move on to the next topic. That's not true. Okay. Then what just happened here?

I have an opinion about this album that I cannot share because I don't want to influence the opinion of someone who I'm asking to go listen to something so I can hear their opinion. That's the logic. Yes, you do. No, no. I think the album is good. You have talked about a million things on this podcast that Maul has never heard. I think the album is good. What are you talking about?

All right. But this particular instance, I've been seeing a large community of people talk about Georgia Smith for months. So I've been asking for months. people talk about Georgia Smith for months. So I've been asking for months. And all that I ever got was a bunch of shit that sounded like is not enough music to really make a fair assessment. So my exact point that you just

shitted on. So you're interrupting. So now we have music. Which is why I shitted on your point. Now we have music. So I want Maul to listen to it because I respect Maul's music opinion like I respect you guys' music opinion. She's an exceptional singer, in my opinion.

She can sing very well. I don't think it's as bad as you think it is. I don't think it's bad at all. No, he just said the sham. I'm not saying it's bad. I asked what the sham was and I was told to Google it. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm trying to have a conversation.

Did you Google it? Google the sham? Did you Google the sham? Google it. You'll find it. He ain't Googling shit. His kid screamed blank and he's screaming at us. Google the sham. That it. You'll find it. He ain't Google shitting. His kid screamed blank, and he's screaming at us. Google the sham.

That is the microcosm of today. I ain't looked up shit and got an attitude. Google the sham. The sham. Just contextually, you could tell what the sham is. The sham is, I don't want to say, it's not a plant. It's not like, what's the word? It's the sham.

I think you could make a case for her being a plant. Maybe, but that's not What I'm attempting to say I also didn't realize That she's only like 20 years old That's a pretty good album For a 20 year old girl to make For me it's

For me it's I'm serious Okay I see where you're going She's young You got that look in your eyes Take some of that Glay off your stare

Oh wait time out Did y'all see home What I'm excited man Wait y'all see Homeboy What? I'm just thinking man Wait y'all didn't see Homeboy on the timeline Talking about Georgia Smith? No no we off that now

Well we can get back to it But Cause your toe park Simmered down When she's 20 years old So that made me think Homeboy on the timeline I guess got caught up

Talking to like An underage girl But Cause he didn't know Or something So but he was respectful In the conversation The homeboy in the timeline, I guess, got caught up talking to an underage girl. But I guess he didn't know or something. But he was respectful in the conversation. But the niggas was roasting him the whole night. So I think I took a picture of it. I didn't want to delete it.

Well, I got to find it. The girl or the conversation? The conversation. I have to find it. Don't nobody move. I'm not moving. Great. Oh, this is great. What conversation. I have to find it. Don't nobody move. I'm not moving. Great. Oh, this is great. What happened?

I was Googling sham. I missed what you guys were talking about. What'd you come up with? I typed in Joe Biden sham. Ah, I found it! All right. Bong. Ah, follow this nigga until it's crazy.

You follow him? Yeah, but keep everything anonymous. He said, now this is just a conversation oh this is an old conversation oh this is old okay I feel a lot better now I saw laughing this nigga but it's still funny he said why are you covering your phone like this camera could see it oh yeah I sure as hell didn't I probably all right I don't know what this is but this is where it starts I knock them over I sure as hell didn't I probably wouldn't have followed you if I knew it first all right so that sounds like he found out the age all right and he's responding the way you

should respond hey if I knew that well that's not true because he said hey if I know that I wouldn't have followed you that's wrong but anyway well I don't know I think 17 she? Well, I don't know. I think 17. She says, my bad. I'll make it more obvious next time. He said, your IG makes it obvious. I wasn't paying attention. You cool, though. She says, wait, just before I continue, how do y'all feel about this conversation so far? That's already crazy.

He's already engaged way too much. A 17-year-old is never cool. You cool, though? But wait. Y'all shady. Why you call y'all shady? Like, listen. Publicly, I can't say this. But you all right, though.

He didn't say it. He said you cool. You cool, though. Yeah, but he might. No, no, no. Well, wait. Read that line before that again. The line before.

She said, my bad. I'll make it more obvious next time. He said, your IG makes it obvious. I wasn't paying attention. You cool, though. Oh, no. So the you cool is saying. It's respectable, right?

No, wait. The context, I think, of what he was using you cool, though, means like, it's all good. Don't worry about it. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. She says, ha ha, it's cool. Most people don't figure it out until they see my Instagram.

And then he said. This little 17-year-old sound like she a little too hot in the pants, man. She need to take a sit her little fast ass down. Apparently she's got The problem And then he said You're a very pretty young lady See what I'm saying

Fam Fam You was supposed to exit That chat box That chat window You should have exited That cool though That's it man

He told her she's a very Pretty young lady Who is that We'll always want to know some shit. You say you follow them. I don't know who that is. More follow them, too. I don't know nobody in the Bronx.

I don't know this nigga, man. Except my mask green name. What you expect from this? Look at his mask green name. Yeah. All right, but I don't know how we got on that. All right, Georgia Smith, we back to that? What was we saying?

That she was young. All right, no. We out of here. We are was we saying? That she was young. All right. No, we out of here. We are. No, she's cool, though. Yeah, she's cool. No, no, she's not. And I'm leaving this conversation.

Y'all are creepy. She's not a pretty young lady? Never mind. All right. So what's next? Something to dock it. Y'all want to talk about any of the new podcasts oh man

stop stop stop Parkes put an edit point in I'm never gonna stop pressing this button I'm never gonna stop pressing this button I'm asking I'm never going to stop pressing this button. Use your brain. I'm asking. I'm asking.

I'm asking my friends. Okay, I haven't seen it. Which is? You haven't seen what? I didn't ask a question. I didn't say nothing. Yo. Any new podcast.

Oh, boo. I haven't seen any of them. I sent you the clips. I didn't look. I didn't click on anything. I didn't look. I used to. Come on look Hold on We're in the same group chat

I didn't click on none of that Have fun with us Nah I'm good We'll all definitely look Y'all cool We'll all look I didn't look It's the answer

That someone didn't look You know you look Y'all cool No You still cool though? Yeah y'all cool though Got my niggas. Wait.

Are you guys talking about something specific? Wait, we didn't even talk about that. Yo, we all over the place. I feel like an hour ago, I said, though we were talking about the Drake girl, and then we left. I had way more jokes for that girl. We decided that she was just walking by.

She was walking by. She was walking by. Oh, no. That's what we... I'm walking back to that. That's who we decided. No way. We decided she was just walking by.

All right, well, let's throw some hypotheticals out there. No way, buddy. That is not happening. She was just walking by, man. She was just walking by, man. Y'all niggas worship him. I'm walking by. All right, that was horrible. Let's, all right,

that was horrible. Let's talk about it though. Let's talk about it. Not here to speak about the young lady or her appearance. It's not, it's not what I do. Not what I'm here for. What I will talk about though is

why does he keep getting photographed with these people? How long has Drake been famous? A while. Over 10 years. Right. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you got to know.

You can't bring her to the front. And it has nothing to do with her. It's just period. You can't. Come on. You know you wouldn't get a picture. What's up with Drake? Listen, man.

Oh, man. Push. Listen. He was accused of hiding a child. He's not going gonna hide a girl now I'm not making any of those hiding a child

jokes with a newborn but that was funny oh so I go on the ledge by myself sometimes you go out there with some of them

wild white boy jokes and I just kinda shut up sometimes you gotta let niggas get in their bag I don't have the wild white boy bag I can't get in that bag that's a crazy bag I've seen let niggas get in their bag I don't have the wild white boy bag I can't get in that bag that's a crazy bag

I've seen Rory get in his wild white boy bag a few times one time with Defendant Sin so thank you well I wasn't there for that one

but I appreciate it when you got you had to get in your wild white boy bag when Homeworld was getting too close to my girl some shit

I don't know no that was that was just that was French shit that wasn't I wouldn't have done it for you I thought it was because you was friendship. That wasn't. Oh, I wouldn't have done it for you. I thought it was because you was white.

But you can't just push people. Wait, you mean a crazy fan going after your pregnant girlfriend? You can't. Well, yeah. What? No, you shouldn't. You wouldn't do that for me? Now I'm judging our whole friendship.

I ain't gonna lie. You might have to judge your friendship now. What the fuck? Say them all. Why you keep saying them all? No, no, no. I forgot she was pregnant. You might have to choke your friendship now. What the fuck? Say them all. Why you keep saying them all? No, no, no. I forgot she was pregnant. You're right.

Sin was pregnant and this creepy guy was staring. He was standing in front of the section for, I'm not exaggerating, over 45 minutes staring at Sin

and then we was breaking out and he aggressively ran towards her so I shoved him. I like that, Rory. I like that too. The fact that you used the word shoved.

No, because I didn't assault him. I just, you know, gave him a quick check. I like that, too. The fact that you used the word shoved. No, because I didn't assault him. I just gave him a quick check. I really hurt a nigga over Rory's girl, but I really like Rory's girl. That ain't really because of Rory. Somebody would get hurt over Rory's girl. I appreciate that. And when you get a girl, Maul.

Thank you. We'll just leave it at that. Thank you. Maul, we... Oh, wait. All right. Are we over the Drake shit? Because y'all don't want...

Every time we bring Drake up, Maul try to back out. How I try to back out? Make jokes with us. Okay, let's make jokes. She had a big butt. No. Why is Drake... It's not a very good joke.

Why is he in the... Yeah, all right, Maul. Maul don't even want to make good jokes with us. All right, forget it. She had a big butt. We got it, Maul. We know where't even want to make good jokes with us. All right, forget it. She had a big butt. We got it, Maul. We know where your loyalty lies. She had a big butt.

He looked like he had a great meal. Let's talk about something more fun. So I was in my phone last week, right? And I think I was trying to delete shit in my phone. And, oh, no, that's not true. Somehow I bumped into your speed date video. Somehow, huh? It's a lot of fucking somehow it was just out there i forgot that we did it we shot a whole bunch of shit for the pool party

you gotta relax none of the footage ever came out but the speed date shit was really fun so it was so i put out just the clip of you and Ali speed dating. And it confirmed what I already knew about Maul. Maul's a star, man. Did anybody see this video? Of course. Yo, I'm watching the video, and I know Maul.

Like, I see this thing every week. I'm watching the video, and I'm like, yo, Maul's good man Yo Yo then I'm reading it Talk about Showing you how to Move in a room full of vultures

Oh my god Cause Joe was not helping He was hating Yeah Who else He wouldn't be a joke I'm so sick of that I'm not saying you was really hating

But you was You were aggravating the situation Oh I'm gonna always Aggravate the situation with Maul With me With everybody Especially if I'm going to always aggravate the situation with Maul. With me. With everybody. Especially if I'm friends with the person. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, hell yeah. Because Maul you have to throw adversity at. You can't let Maul just... To get the best out of him. I get it. No. No, no, no.

If you don't do that, the best of him is just on display. And these poor, innocent women will just fall victim to great jokes and coolness. What victims? There's no victims here. You have no victims? No. Listen, when Maul pull up with that

fire mid, already rolled. There's not much she can do? No, you're not going to ever disrespect me and say I ever pulled up anywhere with any fire mid. You never? Oh, come on. You definitely pulled up a fire mid. You ain't on mid. Y'all niggas is crazy.

First of all, I'm not pulling up with fire mid. Yes, you are. If I got some mid, it's because somebody asked me, yo, what you think we could do with this? And I'm in the crib like, this shit is garbage. Throw this shit in the toilet. You never pulled up to a chick you was like,

I went with some Reggie? No, nigga. Reggie? No, no. More definitely pulled up with some chocolate. Y'all niggas is disrespectful. Like she wasn't knowing

that she deserved anything dope, so you just had the regular? Fam, don't ever disrespect me. You was trying to get rid of it already though. No, man. I have a headache. Y'all are funny today. Fire mid. at the regular fam don't ever disrespect me you was trying to get rid of it already though no man I have a headache y'all are funny today

fire mid every time every time there's nothing to talk about you niggas it's extra funny you just said I pulled up with a fire mid

nah I like mid though nah but and that's fine I've never pulled up with fire mid it's almost affordable well how do we know if it's already rolled up

cause I know what I'm rolling I said how do we know if it's already rolled up take Because I know what I'm rolling. I said, how do we know if it's already rolled up? Take a tote. You'll know. Got it. When you're stuck trying to figure out how fast you can walk to the moon, you'll know exactly what you're smoking.

You'll know exactly if it's mid or not. More to deal with that fire, K2. Yeah. Hey, I got the spice. Let me know. No, I'm cool. The what? Oh, my God. The spice. All right, I'm cool. The what? Oh, my God.

The spice. All right, I'm out. I'm done with these guys. What are we talking about? Speed dating. Oh, yeah. Who else speed dated? Rory.

What do you know? Rory speed dated. And I speed dated. So what happened was Lyric gave us all these questions that was like, what's your favorite color? What's your ideal date? We threw that shit out and was like, yo, when's the last time you had an abortion? Look at the important things. So this is why the video didn't come out, I guess.

Yeah, that clip surprised me. I didn't know what was going on. That was fun, though. That was really fun. That was fun. No, no, we had a blast. Yeah, it was fun. It sounds fun. We're definitely was fun No no we had a blast Yeah it was fun It sounds fun

We're definitely doing speed dating This year The right way We have to do it with more people The right way No that was some bullshit We gonna do it the right way This time

Like with mad people But So I called Maul To tell him that he's a star And that we gotta do Some more shit like this More speed dates More dates More dates More More Dialogue And now we got to do some more shit like this. More speed dates?

More dates. More dates. More mall content. More mall. More dialogue with mall and others. More show. Let's get mall. Dialogue with mall. Let's get mall on some shows.

I like that. I like dialogue with mall. Dialogue with mall. So then I got to thinking as I'm watching this little speed date thing, and my memory's bad, so don't quote me on any of this. And my girl be listening to the podcast, and people that listen to the podcast, when she don't listen, y'all snitch to my girl, so y'all trash for that. But don't quote me on this, but I think mall speed dating and that whole little thing might have got me jammed up somehow. How'd it got you jammed up?

Have you ever met his girl? Don't do that. What? I've shoved someone in D.C ever met his girl? Don't do that. What? I've shoved someone in D.C. for his girl. I love his girl. Well, don't talk about my baby. No, no, no. Sing will find a way, though.

She's going to find a way to question you about some things. Oh, is that true? That is true. I don't know if it's true, but I think it was true that day. 80% of girlfriends are going to find a way to question their man. But wait. 98%. 98.

99. But this is the problem with being questioned about something. Here's what honesty sounds like. The truth is always the problem. Hey. Allie's a friend of mine,

platonically. Friend of mine never sounds good to women, though. Ever. She's a friend of mine. Name a girl that hears that and is like, oh, oh, oh, she's just a friend. That's fine.

But girls, meanwhile. She's a friend. No, but I'm going to tell you. But wait, let me finish. OK, go ahead. She's a friend, because it gets worse. She's a friend of mine platonically. And Maul was XYZ.

Like, let's just say I said that. What's XYZ? I'm just saying. I'm not good at algebra. Maul was talking to my friend okay yeah to me that's the end of the story there but my memory is bad once you say plutonic red flags

by the way I would have led with Maul I wouldn't have led with friend I would have come on whether it's true or not we can't start with come on. That's my platonic friend. Platonic is super.

It can't start with you. It's got to be like that's my friend's. But this is why I thought I was safe, Rory. Because Maul is not my friend that my girl hates. Neither are you. Or Parks. Like, I have some friends that everybody has friends that the girl thinks is the scott slump sleazeball on the planet of course mall's not that guy so i thought safe mall platonic safe

everything's safe all right you're talking about logic and women where are you going with this so where i'm going is hereory. I wanted to come here and talk to you guys about when your significant other totally misreads the play. Yeah, because that is a thing. So like a majority of the time. Because every girlfriend always misreads the play. Yeah, but. Girlfriends are J.R. Smith when it comes to court vision. Court awareness.

Basketball IQ. That's what girlfriends are. It's only like that when the woman is deemed to be attractive to your girl. Like, if your girl thinks the woman is like, she looks good. Nah. Yeah. If it's a booger. I've had that problem with some mutts.

Not in my current relationship, but. And I'd be like, damn, you shouldn't even be struggling over that. It's like, you kind of trash now. That's the worst thing. It's hard to say that and be like, wait, hold on. What do you think of me? You think I would fuck that girl? Yeah. And then she's like, well, who did to say that and be like, wait, hold on, what do you think of me? You think I would fuck that girl? Yeah.

And then she's like, well, who did you fuck? It's like, wait, hold on, that's not what I meant. Right,

gotcha. So who would you fuck? Yeah, so who would you fuck? Yeah. There's no winning here. There's no winning here. You just gotta bow out.

How do you win with your girl? I don't. I don't. You don't win. You don't win with your girl. No, you lose. You lose every time and then you just ask her girl? I don't. I don't. You don't win. You don't win with your girl. No, you lose. You lose every time, and then you just ask her what she wants to eat.

That's my fucking fact. That's it. You're going to lose every time. And just ask her, listen, man. Get a nice meal. You just have to know internally for your own ego that she was right. And just let it go. Just know to yourself.

Just you and yourself have to know. I was right. Thank you, y'all. Thank you, y'all. I needed that. Be strong, man. Be strong. Thank you. All right.

You all right? No, no, I'm good. A little shaken up. We got to bring Gatband back. Now we're... That might not be a bad idea. All right. We are 105 minutes in.

Let's uncover who was high at IHOP. Somebody at IHOP was higher than a motherfucker at IHOP. Everybody. Let me tell you how stupid I am. This is how stupid or how stupid they are. On the news last week, because I watch the news every morning, boy, they was revving up this whole P is switched to a B now. I turned the six upside

down. All right. Yeah, they were really excited about it. And they were like, hey, if you could guess what the B stands for. And in my head, I'm like, shit, nigga, we've done crossword puzzles. B don't stand butt for so much. At a restaurant,

there's only so many B words. But then they threw the curveball. Brunch. Oh, I thought they was going to go with brunch. Breakfast. Yeah, I thought they was I stopped at bagel brunch.

Now, that's not true because I did say burgers in my head and then I said, Joe, you're an idiot. That's just stupid. You're not going from International House

of Pancakes to International House of Burgers. And I said that to my girl. I said, it's definitely brunch. It's got to be. I've smoked a lot of weed, but a burger is kind of just like a meat pancake.

All right. See, this is that white boy shit. See what I'm saying? See how fast we're going to the white boy shit? Yeah. Hey, the white boy bag. The white boy bag. He had the fire mid.

What possessed them to do this? They were born. Have y'all ever had a burger from IHOP? No. Wait, did they sell burgers before? I don't know. No. I don't know.

I've been to IHOP once. Well, the one in Elizabeth, they sell collard greens. Oh, my God. At IHOP? Only that one. No, not Elizabeth. Right there in Newark. I don't know. I've been to Iowa once. Well, the one in Elizabeth, they sell collard greens. Oh, my God. Uh-huh. Only that one. No, not Elizabeth. Right there in Newark. I don't know.

They still do. Oh, no. What do you mean gross? You're talking about the one in Irvington on Springfield? Yes, that one. No, that's the one. The one and only time. Wait, you niggas is buying collard greens?

I didn't say I did. I did. I would. And it was good. Why wouldn't you? No, man. Only at the one in Irvington on Springfield. So that's why I was there. Why wouldn't you? Only at the one in Irvington. So that's why I was there.

If they're so bold to have collard greens. I'm not bold enough to taste collard greens at IHOP. We was out and they said we have to go to this IHOP that has the side menu. I've only been to IHOP once in my entire life. And that was on Springfield Ave in Irvington, New Jersey. And I kid you

not. Somebody was murdered in front of that IHOP that night. Because they had on Springfield Ave in Irvington, New Jersey. And I kid you not, somebody was murdered in front of that IHOP that night. Because they had collard greens at IHOP. You can Google, who cooked these collard greens? Me. Pow.

Pow. Can you not pull out the old Batman sound effects? Yeah, man. What the fuck is that? Collard greens at IHOP. And for your information, Rory, someone was killed there every night.

No, but it was like a big thing. It was like a thing. Every night. No, but it was like a thing. It was still open. No, no. They was like questioning like a setup with IHOP. IHOP was in on it.

That's crazy. It was like a... No, you could Google this shit. I was there that night. Because of the Collie Greens. I'm trying to tell you. Somebody was really angry. Well, you wouldn't Google sham, but you Googled that. I didn't need to Google it. I was there. Who caught Greens. I'm trying to tell you. Somebody was really angry. Well, you wouldn't Google sham,

but you Googled that. I didn't need to Google. I was there. Who caught the body at IHOP in Irvington? Wait. Listen. All right, come on.

Let's finish cracking on IHOP. Burgers. So you're not going? Joe can't wait to get a burger from IHOP. You had Collie Greens. You might as well go to the burger.

Collie Greens or IHOP is way crazier than a burger. You had Collie Greens. Might as well have the burger. Nah, you can't get a burger from a place like that. I'm not Collard greens at IHOP is way crazier than a burger. You had collard greens. Might as well have the burger. Nah, you can't get a burger from a place like that. I'm not getting a burger from IHOP mall. All they're going to do is put them breakfast patties on some bread. I already see their game.

They're trying to get rid of the breakfast patties they got in the freezer for the past 10 years. They're trying to get their breakfast patties off. But who thought this was a good idea? All I'm asking is who thought this was a good idea? Your man didn't go to the IHOP on 440 do yeah he was definitely at IHOP on 440 a lot oh come on on 440 yes

yes he was definitely right there yeah I was shocked that they built that shit I was like whoa wait a minute they put a studio right by my hers old house good for him. Yeah, and I was at that IHOP.

Can we crack on IHOP? Why y'all keep cracking on me? You said you're not going to try the burger. Hell no. I wouldn't eat a pancake from IHOP. But you would eat the collard greens? That IHOP. Get the fuck out of here.

That's bugged. Y'all live in New York, New Jersey. I was with you on the collard. Y'all not going to IHOP? Like before this? I'm not an IHOP. Get the fuck out of here. That's bugged. Y'all live in New York, New Jersey. I was with you on the calendar. Y'all not going to IHOP? Like, before this? I'm not an IHOP fan. No, I hate IHOP. I've been on tour, though.

I never hopped, period. I've been on tour where you have to go to IHOP sometimes. You know what I mean? When you're in fucking Iowa. I hate Waffle House. Waffle House flow. I've eaten Waffle House before.

Waffle House flow when I'm in Iowa. I'm perfectly fine with Waffle House. Waffle House flow for you whenever. You love Waffle House. Yes, yes. Waffle House is good. I hate Waffle House flow when I'm in Iowa. I'm perfectly fine with Waffle House. Waffle House flow for you whenever. You love Waffle House. Yes. Yes. Waffle House is good. There's nothing wrong

with Waffle House. I hate Waffle House, man. I don't know how y'all like that shit. What is there to hate? I just, the food is not good. I'm sick of you

and your fucking bougie bowels. Shut the fuck up. That food is not good to me. I've had great food. Maul can't let Drake get a pass with that chick and not love the Waffle House waitresses

because they all look like the chick that Drake was fucking with. I mean, how the waitress? I'm talking about the food. That Waffle House is not good to me. But you go for the environment, too. Well, where's your preferred waffle restaurant?

Here. Waffle? There's some dope diners that make better food than Waffle House. What if you're in Iowa? Where's my phone? Shit like that, I understand because you're in the middle of the sticks. Yeah, I get that, but I'm not pulling up to the Waffle House when I see it like, oh yeah,

let's go here. Of course not. I'm not doing that. No. I never liked a food like that. No chain restaurant, really, for keeping it a book. You're not going there. Red Robbins is good.

Wait, hold on. What the fuck? Wait, you never had Red Robbins? No. I've had Red Robbins. What? Wait, nigg you never had Red Robins? No, no. I've had Red Robins. What? Wait,

you, wait, niggas never had Red Robins? No, I've heard of it. I've never had it. Oh, okay,

all right, all right. I was about to say, wait, what the fuck are y'all talking about now? Which one you like, what's one of your locations for Red Robins?

What's like your shit? Shit's like Virginia. Yeah, they don't have them in New York. You gotta go like, when you start going like, Jersey. That shit is on the turnpike,

yeah. Yeah, so it would, anyone, I'm just thinking, there was like one. There's a Red Roof in on the turnpike. I've never seen one anywhere else either. have them in your gotta like we start going like jerseys yeah so it would anyone know there's a red roof in on the turnpike i've never seen one anywhere else either a red roof and it's crazy staying at the red roof is wild i wouldn't even go to the red roof end on the humbug yeah no you can't do that you can't go i'll do the howard johnson before i do the red roof there's certain names that i just it's a black person You're just Red Roofing Cracker Barrel

No Back to the white boy bag Am I fucking the Red Roofing? No Oh you a nasty white boy Rory The price is high We gotta give away Another nasty award

Ebro and Rory Y'all code nasty You're all the champions Y'all got the code nasty award They back on Code nasties They code nasty Y'all code nasties. They cold nasties. Y'all cold nasties.

And y'all was on the couch together being nasty. Y'all, that's a nasty couch. That's a nasty couch. It was leather. And Laura's towels was there. What does that have to do with anything? Oh, boy, y'all nasty. It has nothing to do with it.

And Laura. Watch the dude. Watch with it. And Laura. Watch the dude. Holy shit. That's great. Oh, my God. I'm almost dying. He's electrocuted. Listen.

Yo, Red Roof Inn don't look like they got the hourly rates. That's all right? No. It look like they got the beds that's not all right. I'm going to buy you a carpet. I swear. This is horrible. I spill something in here every week.

Every week. I knew that was going to spill, though. This is horrible. I spill something in here every week. Every week. I knew that was going to spill though. You see Parks dude selling shit today? Yeah, if one more poster go up in here, listen man,

I need one cut. No, this was Payola for sure. He put the, he let us know his money signs all over the shit. More money,

more, I bet it's going to be a problem in a minute as soon as I find out who made this shit. No, no. And your phone start ringing. Well, first of all,

we pussy because we let Kay Forrest take our audio. No. No, Kay Forrest, you are getting a cease. Kay ripped the audio. First of all, we are pussy.

Hey, no, buddy. You're getting a cease and desist. It's coming your way. I swear to God. And I'm not even that type of nigga Oh shit I thought that was on the K-Force

Not on the 6ix9ine Yo don't give me hype Don't give me hype Yo Let's not see some dissist music by the way Oh shit 6ix9ine is not C&G music At all

Wait I gotta check my Instagram See if they got that nigga yet They got who? Wait what? 6ix9ine is not C&G music. At all. Wait, I got to check my Instagram and see if they got that nigga yet. They got who? Wait, what? 6ix9ine. They looking for him? They been looking for him for eight months. Chicago, Chicago.

Are they looking for him with a flashlight and a data? Nah, he gonna be all right. Yeah, he'll be fine. All right, let's see here. Peltz is on the docket. Why wouldn't they just go to brunch I don't understand that somebody

this is the only part that makes me mad whoever made that decision is paid seven figures that's the part that gets me mad 100% that's crazy he freestyled that and then put an intern who gets nothing to run the announcement on social media.

That's the even crazier part. Yeah. Here's my dumb idea. Let's give it to someone that doesn't get paid. Yeah, that's how it goes. Do y'all care about hour-long videos on Instagram? Yeah. Sounds like a bad idea.

I don't want to see it. I do not want to see an hour-long video. Shit. I don't know. Well, actually actually there's no there's a couple people I don't want to

I'm kind of conflicted on this one speak for yourself buddy can we make it two hours no oh man alright we are back the Joe Button Podcast episode 166 oh wait we're recording we are back

the Joe Button Podcast episode 166 oh wait we're recording? we are so we all this is all over the place cause it's tour tomorrow that's why

oh shit we chillin we got this again tomorrow? wait if you're listening to this now we're on our way to Philly this is over we gotta do this again

all week some people thought that the podcast would be cancelled because we have we have tour This is over. We got to do this again all week. Some people thought that the podcast would be canceled because we have tour. We are in Philly tonight. We're in Philly now. We are in D.C. Thursday. We are home in New York City on Saturday. Friday, we close out in Boston. Sunday. I mean, yeah, I'm bugging. Sunday, we close out in Boston.

I mean, yeah, I'm bugging. Sunday, we close out in Boston. It's sold out, bro. Sold out. Promote that shit. I'm not promoting. I'm just telling them our routing. All right.

I'm just being arrogant. Let us get our shit off. Oh, no. We were sold out in day five. Hold up. If you're at work, tap your neighbors neighbors let me see you other podcasts do that get my shit off in two seconds oh you rap bastard hey talk about it oh you know what i got a nigga i could diss without y'all

i got a nigga I could diss without. Yeah, that's important. This is a story that will go down in the love and hip hop history books. What is the truth? What is a lie? All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are here. Very pivotal moment in the podcast. Let me go back to a few weeks ago when I asked all of you gentlemen

if Ariana Grande was deserving of being put on the Mythical Box list. Hold up. Let me play the Mythical Box sound. That's Mythical Box. Yeah, you know. That sound has a lot of different meanings mythical box feel like

that upon entry upon entry yes upon niggas know good box upon entry well I'm staying in this one wait alright

wait I was about to ask what is the first thing that y'all think like upon entry of like some other shit don't come I was about to ask. What is the first thing that y'all think, like, upon entry of, like, some other shit? Don't come, don't come. I got about 45 seconds. Baseball, baseball, baseball. Baseball.

Yeah, she's about to be disappointed. I think about... This didn't go the way I thought. You definitely got to think about some wild shit to stop yourself from coming for sure. For sure. You start looking at the paint. Spiders.

No, no, no. Okay. Just go take another coat. Fellas. Let me go back to eating the box. Guys. Yeah.

Or take it out and look at it like, mmm. Shit, you're ready. You got to pull out. Yeah, you're like, yo, you're shit. No, they're on to that.

No, they're not. No, they are. You got to pull out and be like, yo, listen, man, I got to cramp. Yeah, you're like, yo, yes, sir. No, they on to that. No, they not. No, yes, they are. You got to pull out. You're like, yo, listen, man. I got to cramp. I'm cramping up. That whole pull out and whoo. Yo, I'm about to go ham now.

Nah, that's over with. You got to pull out and start complimenting her. They peeped that one. Yeah, that's over with. I'm telling you. You can't do it. Pull out and start complimenting her like, are you trying to drive me crazy?

Nah, they off of that. Oh, now you got to compliment her. You have to. That's the only way to get out of it. All right, you go ahead and try to pull out a Spanish chicken compliment. Your skin is so nice. Your skin is so smooth. Yeah, right.

Yeah, I know. But wait, that's not, all right, that's not kind of what I was asking y'all. You tried to disguise it and switch positions, but it's only been like 15 seconds. You already switching her over. Oh, you a hell nigga for switching. I'm going to buy myself some time. They're going to get this one for half a position from me. Wait until I bust this leg move.

Half a position is crazy. You're going to get half a position. That's crazy. Come on, Joe. You better than that, man. No. No, I'm not. Not anymore. I'm kind of trash

half a position alright so no my point wasn't what do y'all say to yourself to stop yourself from coming when you enter some amazing shit my point is what is your first thought about the amazingness

upon entry when you find out whoa, this is more amazing than I'm accustomed to. Come on. Give me that one. Give me that one. Come on. I mean, yeah, you gotta just, your mind, you just gotta think about something else. I hope you're on birth control.

If I come too fast, like, she's gonna talk shit about me. I'm always better off with someone saying the poop check. I hope you don on birth control. If I come too fast, she's going to talk shit about me. I'm always going to say the poop chat. I hope she don't know my name. I hope she didn't remember the route. You ever say that? All right, now. Fatherhood is really overrated.

This kid will be fine. All right, let's restore some order here. Oh, because y'all are stupid. We don't have sponsors. We're never going to have sponsors. We'll never have sponsors. Horizon Healthcare Center. Play a pair of hoods.

What's up? Know your steps. Oh, I used to be so embarrassed to get the condoms from there. On Bergen? On Bergen? Yeah, on Bergen. No, Horizons. Yeah, still.

I had my first STD scare there. You can't pull out a Horizons condom. What? Guess the fuck you can't pull out a Horizons condom What? Guess the fuck you can't Yeah but You can't Yeah Whatever

It's dark Do they still do that? Yeah Well I don't know about over there I don't know I haven't gone to Horizons for a condom In a long time So I don't know

I haven't gone anywhere for a condom In a long time I can't I can't say I frequent What's wrong with y'all man? Just I want y'all to listen to yourselves man What's wrong with y'all, man? I want y'all to listen to yourselves, man. What's wrong with y'all? Put a condom on, fellas.

What are y'all doing? Well, no, don't put a Horizon condom on is what we're saying. No, definitely not that. You might as well put... And don't go to the Horizons on Bergen Avenue in Jersey City to get it. All right. I just said I was restoring order. And here it is, order. Right right now coming your way all right so my point wasn't to talk about that wait so are y'all still not putting ariana grande

on the mythical box list no no what's the name a few weeks ago, Peter Davidson went on Peter Rosenberg's late night show. And he had some unpleasant words to say to me. Some Kay Forrest words, if you will. Yeah, I thought he was a little meaner, a little more aggressive than Kay Forrest. But, I mean, okay. It's different when it comes to real life. Kay Forrest, he sampled your voice. He was using a peter davidson said who the fuck is joe button why do we give a fuck about him when his biggest uh highlight was his song being in mean girls

who's peter davidson mo i worked all day on that punch you You guys just be stealing the thunder, man. But wait, so when he said that, I was a little hurt and offended because I'm like, damn, my nigga, come on. Mean girls is like, don't do that.

It's a classic. It's a classic. Yeah, like I don't like, the white girls fuck with mean girls. Wait, that was a diss? And he's just going to totally dismiss, what, you got served? Or was it Stomp the Yard? You got served. Yeah, that was a diss? And he's just going to totally dismiss what you got served. Or was it Stomp the Yard?

You got served. Yeah, you got served. Come on, Peter Dave. He totally dismissed that one too, but I let it slide. And Jock Jams. Jock Jams was a good compilation. Fuck, we're watching some sick shit. Who the fuck is Jock Jams? Jock Jams.

The album ESPN album I've never watched anything called Jock Jams I was gonna say what the fuck is Jock Jams? Oh no now that I'm seeing it in his point of view That's wild That sounds crazy I knew what he was talking about

Are you watching man? Okay well go ahead Joe Kevin Liles really whored me out Fast and the Furious I think it was on too it was boy it speaks volumes

to why Def Jam is where they they are now cause I feel we're not having that talk right now anyway

so Peter Davidson Peter Davidson when he dissed me who doesn't go by Peter I was hurt I mean what's his name he goes by Pete

it's Peter man Peter fucking Davidson he better be happy I'm calling him Davidson what's the name he goes by Pete that's Peter man Peter fucking Davidson you better be happy I'm calling him Davidson what's his mom calling him when he yeah we're good question when he was dissing me more I had the same question you had who the fuck is Peter Davidson but nobody answered me and I just left it alone and I didn't even talk about it here because I didn't want to big up well I'll tell you this he doesn't have a song on Mean Girls that's true I'll tell you that or you you got served. Or jocked in. Bro, who is

Peter Davis? Or Fast and Furious. Nobody's been asked. Who is this dude? Who is Peter Davis? He's on SNL. Oh, so he's a comedian. Sometimes.

Oh. You can't take that. He was cracking jokes. It was a little more serious. No, I watched it. He wasn't cracking a joke. No. Oh, he was being serious.

You know Peter Rosenberg calls everybody he thinks hates me to interview him. What's wrong with Peter Rosenberg, man? What's his issue? Oh, man, let me go get another nasty award. Another nasty award? I don't know. You seem like you're about to give one out. No, I don't.

Pause. Pause, yes. What's his beef with you all of a sudden? You'd have to ask. It's the same thing. It's always never been a real issue. It's just what they've been going through for how long this podcast has been going through. Yeah, but it seemed like it kicked up a little bit the last two months.

Not on my end. No, not on your end. Well, no. He caught the flames because it was Complex. I feel like if Peter would have done his show, you wouldn't have mentioned his name in all that Complex shit. He just caught a stray because he was doing a show on Complex. Yeah, my conversation about Complex really had nothing to do with him. It preceded him being at Complex.

When I went to Complex about a late night show, it was a million years ago. You know how Pete takes things, which he admits he's sensitive so it doesn't matter he's not gonna look at it that way he's gonna think all right you're just throwing shots at me yeah but y'all know i don't give a fuck about how other people take things no i'm aware of that i don't care about that yeah i don't get along with sensitive niggas don't text me get on my phone if you're sensitive i'm not saying that about pete because pete and i are fine to my knowledge but yeah i just don't do well with sensitive people. What were we talking about just now?

Pete Davidson. Oh, yeah. So Peter Davidson's name pops back up on the fucking timeline for nothing else than being a muddy ass nigga. So I'm like, ah, this makes all the sense in the world now. Peter fucking Davidson dated Ariana Grande for a month and got engaged and you speak my name oh hey if you at work guess what it's coming this there has to be some type of rules where certain niggas are just not allowed to speak on certain niggas. I agree.

That went out the door a long time ago. What the fuck is Peter Davidson talking about? Y'all are really late to the party. That rule. That has changed. You can't get engaged after a month and speak my name, Peter Davidson, if you're listening to this. Now, I don't know you other than this little tidbit that I have, but that's enough.

I'm making a judgment. You are trash, nigga. How you on Saturday Night Live? Y'all don't want to put her on the list? Nah, I don't. So he's really trash. He was, and I only know this because I'm a Larry David fan,

he just broke up With Larry David's daughter Like a week ago How old's his daughter? Of age Wait Not a You're cool young lady

Type age I think she's very much of age Peter Davidson Broke up with somebody Oh Not too long ago And then got engaged Hey man

It happens What a fucking loser. Some niggas is just noodles, man. Hey, hey. I'm not going to just say this in a mythical box.

Do me a favor. Right above you to the left, open that cupboard right there. Hand me out one of those nasty awards. Hand me

the nasty award top show on the left. Wait, hold on. Guess what? You snubbed me in Ebro for the awards? What the fuck? No, we had to get another one.

Hey, Peter Davidson, you are nasty. Jesus, that's nasty. Disgusting. Have some respect. All right, I'm done with Peter Davidson. That's all I got for him, man. Peter. What's next on the docket there, guy?

Nothing else that I really give a fuck about. Lonzo Ball versus Kuzma. We can talk about the finals. That happened. Did it? Barely. No, but listen. Let's not talk about the finals.

Let's talk about this for a quick second more. Don't get too passionate. What do you think about Kobe chiming in on everything? His show? What he's been doing? The LeBron. The tweets. The LeBron tweets.

I mean, I'm pretty sure he's been hearing it. Pretty sure people have been coming up to him. I understood what he was saying, but again, he's still not. LeBron is, you know, he's one of the greatest, but I'm not putting him above. Kobe? Or Mike, no. I'm sorry. He got swept twice in the finals?

Nah. Oh, you're one of those. You're damn right. You're throwing the swept twice line on him. Yes, he got swept twice, didn't he? I think that's nasty. It is nasty. I don't like that.

No, I'm not talking about the sweep. I didn't say it was his fault. I'm just saying he was part of the teams that got swept twice. I'm not saying it was his fault. No other GOAT is in that conversation of getting swept twice in the finals. Jordan got swept before. There's nowhere near the finals, bro. It doesn't matter.

But my metric, I don't go by that metric. It's worse if you get swept in the first round. No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, it's not. That means you're super trash.

It means you don't belong there. You get swept in the finals twice, that says a lot about you. What does it say? Not as good as you think you are. I'm not rolling. Yeah. I'm all got it out for LeBron.

No, I don't. Why do people think that? Because I don't say what everybody else is saying. That first Cleveland team was trash. They still got swept. You're not good enough to win one game? Against the Tim Duncan and the Spurs? Okay.

When you had a super elite team, you lost to the Mavericks. Okay. Okay. So you didn't sweep the Mavericks, so the Mavericks didn't get swept. They won. They didn't get swept, though. All right, then. By the end of LeBron's career, he's going to be ahead in statistically damn near every category, probably.

So you're not going to hold the two sweeps against him is all I'm saying. Karl Malone is ahead statistically. Karl Malone was always trash. What? Always trash. Trash. Always trash and nasty. He's a top five player. Nasty old man. Tr trash. Always trash and nasty. Nasty old man.

He is a nasty old man. He's a top five player in his position. That mailman a little moved in. So wait, you don't think Karl Malone is a top five player in his position? I'm not. I just told Malone. I'm not doing this. I'm always hype off the

mailman. Karl Malone is trash. Karl Malone is trash. Yeah, fuck that. Karl Malone is trash. Karl Malone is trash. That nigga was fucking... He was out there fucking... That nigga was Charles Oakley with a point guard.

Karl Malone is trash, and Ron is better than Mike and Kobe. That nigga was Anthony Mason with hops. You got him fucked up. That nigga was way better than Anthony Mason. Mo, I'm kidding. Like, relax, bro. Let's keep shit in context, though. you got him fucked up that nigga was way better than Anthony Mason more I'm kidding like relax bro let's keep shit in context though

no I still think Karl Malone's overrated and he wasn't all that I do think that I believe that you can't believe that sure I do no you can't

wait where you got him on the power forward list all time top five two that's a cop out nigga where you got him

two four maybe cause he didn't win he didn't win a ring who's ahead of him That's a cop out, nigga. Where you got him? Two. Four, maybe. Because he didn't win. He didn't win the ring. Who's ahead of him? Dirk. Tim Duncan. Porzingis.

KG. Okay. That's three. There's a few more, though. I probably put Cardi. Power forward's better than nah. Those are the power forwards. Tim Duncan, Dirk, KG, Karl Malone.

Think of a fifth. Barkley? Arguably. He didn't win one either, but he's probably top five at his position. Especially for his size. He was undersized. Karl Malone was a nasty old man. Nasty, yeah.

And that mailman move was easily the worst basketball move I've ever seen in my life. The Jazz was the most boring fucking team of all time. Yeah, that team was really, really trash. More boring than the Spurs? For sure. Effective. Yes, more boring than the Spurs. I ain't going to lie.

I hate Mike's whole run. I do. Let's talk about it. I do. Honestly, I do. Why do you hate his run? Oh, you're a Knicks fan. I know where this hate from Mike comes from.

Go ahead, though. Go ahead. No. That's not why, though. That's where mine comes from. Because let's real. That's where. That's where.

That's how the team was stacked. No, I can't. I hate Reggie Miller to this day. Mine is not coming from that. No, my Reggie Miller here comes from that. My Reggie Miller here comes from that. But my, this is not coming from that. That Sonic team was stacked, for sure. That Sonic team was stacked.

For sure. That was a good team. Stacked. Phoenix was also a good team. Phoenix is the only loaded team he went up against. That's not true. I'll give you Seattle. You don't think that that...

He beat Utah twice. Utah was trash. They were trash. Trash. Trash. They had two players that were top five ever they was in. Ball, you said that John Stockton

was not top five in his position a few weeks ago. You did say that. Arguably, he is, though. I'm not arguing. We're not arguing. You can't make the argument. That's the argument.

Who else did he beat? He beat the Jazz, the Sonics, the Suns. Who else did he beat? Give it to me. He beat Magic Johnson in the Lakers. His first one. What's wrong with you? He beat Old Magic.

Magic was the same age as Dirtwood. Magic retired the summer after that. Don't do that, boys. The summer after that, Magic't do that, boss. I'm sorry. Listen to what I'm saying. Yo, the summer after that, Magic got on TV and said, yo, dogs, my hand was broke. Listen to what I'm saying. Listen to what I'm saying.

Magic was the same age as Dirk when Dirk beat that super team in Miami. 32 years old. So it's okay for Dirk to beat LeBron at 32, but Mike can't beat Magic at 32? Dirk didn't have a disease. Come on, man. Don't do that, man. Don't do the disease? Y'all discrediting Mike.

All right, all right. So forget about that. Throw it out the window. Throw it out the window. Let me finish. Let me finish discrediting him. Okay. The expansion teams.

What happened when the expansion teams had to come and then bum ass David Stern who I think was in bed with Michael Jordan I was too young to know all that back then not in bed physically but in bed with includes with the same way the league is includes with LeBron now David Stern back then tells everybody yeah hey three of your niggas on every team the two expansion teams get to choose do you know if that happened today what would happen if every team just the two expansion teams, get to choose. Do you know if that happened today, what would happen if every team just had to lose three players? Come on, Maul. That happened twice for Mike.

That happened twice for Mike. Man, if you don't get this shit out of here. No, yeah, Detroit had to do it, but that was, I mean. But it happened twice for Mike. The league just, was it four teams or five teams? It was four at least. Was it the Magic? Miami?

No, Orlando? The Hornets, right? In his era. Toronto? Toronto and the Grizzlies, for sure. There's one... Savon, Google the fucking expansion teams. The Mavericks happened.

No, Mavericks was old. No, I think the Mavericks was old. It was somebody else we're missing. Was it Minnesota? Not Dallas. I think it was Minnesota. It was Minnesota. It was Minnesota.

Maybe. It was Minnesota. But the Charlotte Hornets were definitely one of them. That was a very good team. But my only point is, he had a few breaks along the way. So the metric that we say, and I'm not saying that Mike is not the greatest. That's not what I'm saying. I agree. so the metric that we say and i'm not saying that mike is not the greatest that's not what i'm saying i agree i'm saying the metric like that we use to call him the greatest is is flawed how because the fact that he's six and oh is not what makes him the greatest so what makes him that six

and oh is not money to me how because leBron's one versus that 73 win team is pretty impressive. Now LeBron's two, and I'm not comparing to Mike. I'm not doing that. He did beat the best team ever. Yeah, LeBron's other one, the first time in Cleveland, that holds some weight. Like whoever wins a ring in New York, that's going to hold some weight. Some rings

hold more weight. He beat a team that was better than the Bulls. I'm not giving Mike credit for beating up on some of them bum ass niggas he beat up on that byron russell shit and i i got it money oh you killed that nigga you killed byron russell i'm done with i'm done with it mike is the greatest but not for these reasons that people are saying i'm with you he's six and oh. Never went to game 7 in the finals. Let LeBron go play Sean Kemp right now.

You don't think that Seattle team was good, though? No, that Seattle team was good. I'm talking about Sean. And not because of Sean. I was a dead left. Dead left wasn't playing with them. Dead left was ill. Not jumping and hitting threes. That team was ill. Utah was a good. Percy Hawkins.

Utah was a good team. If you know y'all want to shit on them, they had two Hall of Famers. Yeah, but they were a team that rarely beat the Rockets or the Spurs or the Suns. I hated that team. I did. I'm just saying. Tell me. All right.

Forget about all this. Tell me where LeBron is going. Philly or the Clippers. Where you got the Clippers? Wall is going to keep pumping his Clippers shit. Yeah, I believe so. I believe Philly or the Clippers. So why not the Lakers?

Why do you keep saying the Clippers? I can't because the reason why I say the Clippers is because I don't think LeBron is corny enough to put a Lakers jersey on. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he'll go and try to bring the first championship to the Clippers before he goes to put a Lakers jersey on. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he'll go and try to bring the first championship to the Clippers before he goes and puts a Lakers jersey on. If he puts a Lakers jersey on, he's the corniest dude to go into the Hall of Fame. Period. You can't put a Lakers jersey on.

You were saying he was going to the Lakers for me, or what? I'm always saying I don't want him to go. Okay. But I feel like he will. You know what's funny? I hear Lakers fans saying they don't want him to go there. I hear Philly fans saying they don't want him to go there. LeBron needs to stay in Cleveland, man.

Sit down. No, that's not happening. That's not happening. This is what I will say about LeBron. I'm not going to do too much sports talking. Why? Him and Pop? Create your own legacy in your hometown, bro.

How long do you think Pop going to be around In your hometown No How long you think Pop Gonna be around? That game That last game Against Golden State Was eerily reminiscent Of that last game When he walked out

Of Boston Garden And we knew It was his last game It was the same thing But He played It was the same type of It looked like

Watching the game He was already Preparing for What he was doing. But that's another thing. When you're considered the GOAT, you don't just hop around the league. You don't do that. That's another old metric.

That's not an old metric. It's real. It is an old metric. I'm here. I'm one of the greatest. Y'all got to come to me. No, that's the old league. The new league is the players run the league.

We hop around. That shit is corny, man. That shit is corny. I agree with you, but. If LeBron puts a Lakers, listen, if he puts a Lakers jersey on. He's not going to the Lakers because that doesn't make sense. Why not? He's going to a team that is going to compete or contend with Golden State.

He's trying to beat them. That shit that Kobe said, I think you got to try to figure it out. I think we've seen LeBron. Here's why I say he should never go to the Western Conference. Because he's never getting to the finals again if he goes to the Western Conference. They're not beating Golden State. I don't care what team he goes to. If he goes to Houston right now, they are beating Golden State.

They almost beat Golden State without him. If he goes to Houston right now, they beat Golden State. I don't know. If he goes to the Spurs right now, they beat Golden State. If he goes to the Spurs if he goes to the Spurs right now they'd be Golden State. If he goes to the Spurs I'm taking him Kawhi

and LaMarcus Aldridge. So y'all want to address the elephant? Is LeBron scared of Kevin Durant? No. No. Okay.

Yo you niggas gotta stop switching these narratives. A few years ago Kevin Durant was scared of LeBron. That's a few years ago. And now LeB of lebron that's a few years ago and now lebron is scared of kevin durant this finals walk me through this finals a lot of them switches that

they switched off them screens were not hard enough for lebron to switch off for kd that's all i'm saying i would have easily brushed so you want lebron to guard kd you absolutely have to guard kd when he's on fire i'm not leavingvo or somebody to get caught in a switch on Kevin Durant. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. So do you think that was happening because LeBron is scared of KD? Why is it happening? Don't beat this.

Why is it happening? The best player, if Kevin Durant is on fire and I'm the best player in the world, I want to guard him. You bring that screen if you want. I'm running through that screen. Those screens weren't even hard screens. Real quick, and I'm off this LeBron shit, but more talking about if LeBron go to the Lakers, that's trash.

Like Lonzo Ball and Kyle Kuzma ain't dead in the middle of a heated rat beef right now. Like they couldn't use the help over there. But I'm on the record saying I didn't want Lonzo Ball. He don't want nobody. Lonzo Ball, I did not want the Lakers to draft him because it's a circus. I knew what that shit was about, to sell tickets. The Lakers will sell tickets regardless, just like the Knicks will. Doesn't matter who you put in the Knicks jersey, they're going to sell out.

Which is our problem. Yeah, so we didn't need Lonzo. They don't care about changing the franchise because why? They're still making the money. All I know is if LeBron puts a Lakers jersey on, that's nasty. That's disgusting. What y'all think about Lonzo's latest rap battle? I'm cool.

Okay. Yeah. I'm not clicking the Lonzo rap battle. We didn't even talk about the Beyonce tour but I guess there's nothing to talk about because it's

just no because it's the same tour I think right it's just part two it's just part two I'm sure it's an amazing tour yeah I'm sure as well

I think that's that's all I got guys let me look at I think I'm done congrats to Wayne for getting out of his case. True. I think that's great. Congrats to Lloyd Banks for getting out of his G-Unit deal.

And I only say that because I don't think there's any staff at G-Unit Records, so why would I want to be an artist there? I don't know where his staff is. That's cool. Congrats to... No, it is. Shout out to Drea for frying Popeye's chicken on Instagram. Y'all didn't see Drea take a three-piece from Popeye's

and put it in hot grease? She was on the front like she was making it? Yeah. I think that there are ongoing jokes on the internet about Drea's cooking, and the internet is just going to keep them going. No one saw Drea take chicken out of Popeye's box and put it in a frying pan. Joe, have you ate? Listen, I'm not in on these jokes.

I don't follow her on anything. I don't know her jokes, so I'm asking you. Have you seen Popeye's chicken before? Yes. I just Uber-eats-ed it the other day. Have you ever seen fried chicken that looks exactly like Popeye's in the middle of a skillet being fried like that? It could be done. No.

Thank you. I haven't. Now, can I counter with a question to you? Please. Have you ever seen Dre's fried chicken? In person? No, I haven't. I know that's your man, so

seeing Dre's fried chicken in person is funny. That's Joe's friend, so I can't even... Fried chicken in person. Well, everybody's my friend. Cause, yeah. You try to be this non...

You're kind of industry now. You got friends, man. No. You got friends now wait I do have more friends in retirement right that's true definitely true

more industry friends yeah yeah that's what I'm saying I only understand for y'all too that's funny the strength of y'all yeah mostly Roy

damn niggas don't say strength no more no no they do I still use strength you no you don't off the strength yeah i use that sometimes stop no we're definitely has strength in his hipter hipster bag

off the strength i've yeah i'll use it every now and then it's not like a go-to why don't you just write the book on all the cool things that we should say it's only gonna be about three pages this nigga mall all we can say is It's only going to be about three pages. This nigga, Maul. All we can say is that's crazy. Oh, wait. So I didn't even tell you all about my fucking genius idea that's coming. I ain't even going to tell him now.

I ain't even going to tell him. You tell him. You're corny. Tell him. Tell him. You can't just start in that. All right. Maul has finally agreed to let me produce him. Pause.

I'm excited. Pause. I'm excited. Pause. I haven't titled this show yet. Wait, I thought it was Dialogue with Maul. I thought we came up with that 30 minutes ago. No, I got way deeper when I was reading the Instagram comments from the speed dating thing. How deep did you go, bro? Now you're kind of making it

weird now. But what I was saying is I want to send Maul out to eat with fine women. Sounds like it's a good deal for Maul so far. That's regular shit, Joe.

It's a regular Tuesday. Regular Wednesday, Joe. It's a regular Tuesday. Regular Wednesday for me. It's a regular Tuesday. It's a regular Wednesday. Joe just thinks that everything I do is funny. Like, I don't know why. And let me tell you,

when I called the first contestant, not contestant. Hold on, the contestant? Not contestant because it's not a game show. For the love of all listen I think we got something here

anyway I called somebody and and they gave me the response that everyone gives me has given me about

Maul in the past 10 years oh hell yeah Maul's mad cool and then I started hating so yeah I'm gonna send Maul Maul out was man cool. No. And then I started hating. So yeah, I'm going to send Maul out

and we're going to document this. Hold on. Is this Maul out for the love of Maul? With you with a microphone? No, no. Screaming in the middle of it? No, no, no.

I might give Shorty an earpiece so I can communicate with her. That would be funny. That would be really funny. Yeah, I need for her to be able to throw some shit back at him. If you fight through that adversity,

Maul... I can fight through anything. Oh, we gonna fight? That's gonna be a great show. So yeah, I think that's next week. I think that's next week. That's next week? Oh yeah, nah, that's happening. It's a regular Wednesday, man.

Yeah, go ahead and pull up the Float-O-Mile next week. See what's going on. I wasn't going to be there anyways. Yeah, I haven't been to Float-O-Mile. I want to go. Oh, yeah. You slack. All right.

We got sleepers or what? Yeah. Nope. Y'all go first. I'll find one. Is that it? Yeah, I guess that's all we have on the docket. It's over, bro.

It's a little weak. It's been three hours. This thing going to sit here some more. I'm burning up on these lights. Oh, well, I'll find a sleeper. Oh, I'll go. Listen, all right. So, mic check, one, two, one, two.

So much to my surprise, damn, and a few joints came out. So much to my surprise Damn And a few joints came out But uh Oh man I meant to tell y'all Since I'm not gonna play it Nah

I gotta play it now I am gonna play it The guy Khaled man Khalid Is that his name? Ah okay Let me see where this is going He did it again

He fucking did it again man I tried to fucking tell you This little sneaky fuck Khalid Just let him grow up He's gonna be okay How old is he? He's like He's literally 19 years old

I kept telling you He's talented But his content is for kids Let him grow up No he might be high soon I haven't said this on 17 podcast but my problem when you tried to kill me for being but every song i like from him is just the sound of someone else it's like the sound of whoever's featured and once he grows out of that i'ma love it

but he keeps sneaking with these fucking features that i love so here we are again straight from the superfly soundtrack this This is Khalid and her. Glad I didn't pick this one. And this is called, I really wanted to play the Miguel record. The Spotify shit? No, the Real Ass Nigga. Oh, okay. But fuck it. Yeah, some shit came out

this week. You're the one that make me do shit You're the one that make me feel it The feeling of stupid I was in your corner when You were putting me through shit Now you wanna leave No, you leaving me was foolish You left me this car on my heart And I left you a brand new car How nice of you, the price of true love True love is absolute So what more can I say? You make me this way What more can I say?

You make me this way Yeah Excuses say I'm the one that made you ruthless Well, you're the reason I'm crazy And with you I feel You Me for granted Always wanna play the victim when they don't know the truth is You left me this scar on my heart

When I'd never take it that far Oh, why would you say that it was true love? If true love is absolute What more can I say? You make me this way You make me this way What more can I say? What more can I say? What more can I say? You make me this way

I tried to stay the night You won't let me inside Oh, you push me away, you'll never change Just another fight between you and your pride Oh, what more can I say? What more can I say? What more can I say? What more can I say? Say You make me this way

You make me this way What more can I say? What more can I say? You make me this way Can't lie Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. That was brand new music from... Oh, I hate brand new music. That was...

How do I pronounce his name? Khalid? Khalid? Khalid khalid featuring her uh it's called this way off the superfly soundtrack so and miguel got a real hard song in that soundtrack as well that's all i got okay all right so i'm gonna play uh Baker Aaron, who is the producer here. I cannot pronounce the young lady's name that is singing on here, so I'm not even going to try to butcher it, but this is called Change. Change. Thank you. I can't do it but I end up wanting it back Trying to break free, don't be fooling

Loving you don't look like people Trying to tell me something I just cannot feel no more I'm gonna give up on you Questioning if you could really change Remembering the time it was authentic Just a head and you can't be regained Put me too deep Time to time it ends to me again You hit me too deep

Time to time you ask to meet again I'm with you, I can't help but live in Love I had for you was so strained by your foolish game It's hard for you to, oh, let me go But I can't keep on like this, you gotta let me know Try convincing yourself that I'm right for you But you'd rather go out and chase what fuckers are too Tryna break freedom with fooling Loving you don't feel like before

Tryna tell me something I just cannot feel no more I'm gon' give up on you Questioning if you could really change Remembering the time it was authentic Just ahead and you can't be regained, hit me too deep Time and time, it adds to me again I'm with you, I can't help me living Love I had for you was so stra I, your foolish king Oh, I'd kill a nice girl verse on this one. Like you did at the Chinese spot in Journal Square? Yes, Sophia.

Hey. Holy shit, wait, why somebody tweeted? All right, a few things. Somebody tweeted Sophia's body was DJing at Summer Gym. I don't even think I was that drunk to not notice that. I feel like I would have caught wind of that one. I missed that one too. That was Baker Aaron Change, by the way, before we get into this next topic.

And another tweet definitely said George Smith looked like Braxton from the Jamie Foxx show. That's not funny. It's not funny. They kind of look like a little bit. That's mean. I didn't say it. Somebody tweeted it.

I just read it. Just a messenger? Somebody tweeted it, huh? What do white people read when they read the N-word? They say it. Nah, nah, the jail you gonna get me mad. There's parts in there. They do not. I'm also

racist. And they're mine? Shit. Alright, play your sleeper. Alright, this is God. Get to know. This is by God? I'm about to say, God damn. Guy. G-U-Y Oh this is the New Joe Budden

This is by K- Wait Guy like the R&B group? Yeah but his name is Guy Yo these kids have to stop doing that Oh yeah

Stop it Stop it Why are you doing that? Has he never heard a guy? This is his name bro I tell you Riley This is gonna kick his ass Now how I'ma feel if I like the record.

Oh, that was a hard noise. He's going to use it as the intro. He just used the hard noise. That was hard. Oh, it's back again. It's back. To litter it all throughout. All right.

Brand new guy. This shit hard. Not that guy, though. Better get to know me. See you been popping with your whole team. I like everyone in this tone. Low key. Baby, don't say.

Baby, don't sleep. Yeah. I've been rolling in the word. Say she gone. In the first. Hit the club. Yeah, she VIP. No, she wanted, but she CID.

GUI, yeah. say I'm next up GUI, he's they fly, baby, check the repertoire Big pimpin' like B.I.G. Only white boy in the club, they be chillin' in VIP Only white boy in the club, that they askin' the CID Damn, man, do my damn thing, babe, I spill my champagne Nah, no, we got these plans made,, nah Know we got these plans made, ah Know we got these plans made, ah

Hold up, wait, what's up? I've been drinking much, yeah Thinking that I'm talking and I'm texting way too much, yeah You ain't got the sauce, yeah, you gotta go Gain it one and nine, yeah, you gotta know Yeah, you better get to know me Cause I be with my team and I be on my lonely And half of these rappers talking, they really phony

That's why I don't fuck with them, I got it going Better get to know me Know you been dying with the whole team Know you really stay low-key Baby, don't say, baby, don't sleep Better get to know me Know you been dying with the whole team Know you really stay low key

Baby don't say, baby don't sleep Does Guy get to know? I'm going to get to know Guy. That was a good record. I apologize, Guy. You're going to get to know Guy that was a good record I apologize guy you're gonna get to know guy pause Rory I didn't I just asked a question well I'm gonna pause it anyway since parks is teasing me niggas niggas never let parks get another sleeper after that you to record Tom Petty record?

That nigga ended with the U2. I can't play nothing, man. People be asking if the mix comes with a play on the podcast. Can't do it. Hey, get your money. These niggas are crazy out here, man. That's crazy. If the mix were.

That might be the game now. Listen, I just wish someone that was trying to give me pay all I had good music. Because then I'd play it. Yeah, good point. It's always trash music that tries to pay you to play some shit. I feel like every act that Maul plays, he should have signed. That's true.

Maul's stupid. Some of these dudes already signed, man. Some of them are not. Some. these dudes already signed, man. Some of them are not. Some. You just, yeah, some. Yeah, but sign up to what? I don't know, man.

I'm not signing to a nigga just to say I signed a nigga. I can leave. I can leave. That era is over with. To Like Records, man. Remember Like Records? We have the logo, too.

Yeah, more than that. Nah, we still out there. I just let Seven off. We still out there. Very just let Seven off. We still out there. Berg, lucky he walked out of here. I was going to flame him over him EPing the new Tenage. Berg, I'm going to get in.

How long Berg in town? He's in town. Yeah. I got to talk to Berg. But damn, we gone. Yeah, we leaving. Well, we back Saturday. We back. We back Friday, Saturday. Oh, so you still be? Well, I don't know. You. But damn, we gone. Yeah, we leaving. Well, we back Saturday. We back Friday, Saturday.

Oh, so you still be? Well, I don't know. You just said it. So now I guess that's when we back soon. Joe, we have a show in New York on Saturday. I'm joking. Of course, I told my girl when we're back for real. You posted on your Instagram.

But you've definitely been there. Nobody else told that lie before? Hell yeah. All right. All right. Just checking. I'm your Instagram. But you've definitely been that. Nobody else told that lie before? Hell yeah. All right. All right. Just checking. I'm just checking. Thank you.

Look at Rory. The show was canceled on Saturday? No, Rory. Yo, you know the lie we told, man. And you've told it, nigga. There. And you've told it. Yeah, that's it.

I'm tired of Rory trying to get boyfriend of the year while I go on the beef. Fuck him. All right, Stavon, anything we forgetting while you're talking to Dale? He don't know. We good.

All right. All right. Talk to you guys later. Bye.