The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 176 | "The Universe"

Episode Date: August 29, 2018

Joe, Rory, and Mal had plenty to address this episode. They began with sharing stories about their weekend (7:19), Aretha Franklin not leaving a will for her family (18:28), and Jemelle Hill moving on from ESPN (26:22). That leads Joe to share why the universe is funny and teaches us how it works (28:38). Also, Mal is never afraid to speak his mind and shares his unpopular opinion on Lauryn Hill (37:38). And Joe recaps Power (1:21:02) and shares a message for a few R&B artists (1:32:00).    Sleeper Picks of the Week Joe: Bryson Tiller - “Leaning” (Remix) Rory: Blood Orange - “Hope” (Ft. Puff Daddy and Tei Shi)   Mal: Young Chris - “Angles”

yeah slow week oh man no it ain't no it ain't slow week no I have this written on the docket

Maltz water Maltz water slow week note the changes it's written it's written there note the changes well when your cap

when the cap of the water also has a cap that's a different type of water cap on the cap how your cap have a cap yeah Maltz is drinking hydration core.

Yeah, man. Come on, Maul. That good pH, you know what I mean? I ain't never seen you drink hydration core

before though. What does pH stand for? Y'all don't even know what pH is. Word. pH. Our bodies need it. He about to give you the jail version of what he heard.

Maul is the healthy jail nigga. Maul is definitely talking about electrolytes in 01. Trying to put us on. I tried to. Y'all niggas wouldn't listen. Remember when we found out about electrolytes? Mm-hmm. All right. Let's see.

Changed my life. I still don't know what electrolyte is alright I'm ready we'll almost pass out and drink some Gatorade we'll see exactly what electrolyte look

mic check mic check one two one two there comes a time in every man's life I'm just looking around is this the time in your life no I'm just looking around. Is this the time of your life? No, I'm just looking around the room. We need a lyric breakdown on this.

Who wrote this song? Listen to the words. All the man lies in the first verse. I can't believe it. I did it. But I never been that type of man. Come on, baby face. He wasn't with it Oh that's another classic line

That never died You were the best I ever had Oh you gotta be going through changes Yep Always Always evolving into A new man Wait

I always thought I was a faithful man Yo baby face Did you hate this? Baby face is man Anybody could've wrote this shit Wait, I always thought I was a faithful man. Yo, Babyface, did you hate this? Babyface's mans. Anybody could have wrote this shit. This is the joint, too. No, this is only funny when you think of all of After 7's other songs. Because all of Can't Stop, he was feeling her.

Ready or Not, he was trying to convince her to stay with him. Baby, I'm for real. Another great lie. Only to lead up to cheating. Oh, man. Shout out to Swag. Shout out to After 7. That is a little swaggy.

How do I cut this off here? This is when they tried to do their little Teddy Riley thing. Like everyone in that time. All right. Microphone check. One, two, one, two. Let me turn my drop up. No, Joe Button.

No, Wally and Mom. Welcome to the Joe Button Podcast, episode number 176. Do not forget that this is a Spotify exclusive starting September 12th. Shout out to all the new listeners. Shout out to everybody listening from work. shout out to all the new listeners shout out to everybody listening from work shout out to everybody watching oh not watching on youtube because we're late still because we're not up to date we gotta fix that what are we not it's a little subtle changes we gotta make to this podcast oh wait no we can't do that now anyway oh shit

listen man uh anyway Wait, no, we can't do that now anyway. Oh, shit. Listen, man. Spotify. Anyway. September 12th. Download the app now. We're going to fuck this deal up. September 12th, we are on Spotify. Shout out to all the people on Spotify. Listen, I'm talking to the good folks behind the scenes

working on trying to get a code or something so we can look out. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Make some discounts. Boy, have I been home dreaming about all the playlists I want to make. And all the niggas catalogs I want to erase.

Our deal wasn't that good. I mean, I don't know. Are we going to take out Nostradamus? No, not Nas. No, not Nas. Nas can rock. If he's on Spotify, I'm deleting that ASAP. More. no not Nas no not Nas Nas could rock but there's a few Ethers on Spotify

I'm deleting that ASAP more more you can delete Ether I hate that record that's fine but if you delete Ether

you take away everything that it brought to the universe and you don't want to take away that moment Ether? yes what's the Ether moment? Chicken noodle soup?

sorry what? I don't know what chicken noodle soup has to do with Ethan. Oh, Ron Brown? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We can delete that, too. There's a few records in hip-hop we can delete, man. You ain't going to miss Chicken Noodle Soup. When was the last time you put Chicken Noodle Soup on at the party? You better leave Young B out of this. First of all, well, I'm not putting that on in the party or on my phone. Shout out to Webstar. I'm not really going to say too much about B because she just beat up Mariah Lynn in Miami, allegedly.

I got to call Ice and see how he feels about that. Ice is on his way to Miami. Oh, wait. Speaking of girl fights, we were having a nice, interesting conversation behind the scenes when Rory asked a question that he's probably too pussy to ask now. Let's see if he remembers. Oh, I asked, is Delicious rapping now?

Now silence from you, Rory. Let us react. Is she rapping? According to her Instagram. Are you excited? I could do without a delicious 16. What if she's nice, though? She could sing.

I remember her on Flavor of Love being able to sing. Go sing. Well, she is singing. That sounded like some bars in that Instagram clip. And on her Instagram, the caption says, hey, remember when I was singing on Flavor of Love? Did it really say that? Hey, I'm finally doing some music now.

So then I said to Rory Maul, because you weren't here for this part. I said to Rory, yo, don't do that, my nigga. Because I'll gladly call Delicious on the podcast. So you can say whatever you got to say to her. Guess what your man did? Back down? Hell yeah. I'm definitely playing Delicious in that fight.

Easy to see when you look at he. When you look closely. Rory going back down. Rory just back down. That's funny. Rory didn't want to fight Delicious. Nah, I got her winning that. Me too, but resist.

I wouldn't resist Delicious. Yo, niggas is different, man. I just said I wouldn't resist Delicious. Yo, we caught different man i just said i wouldn't resist yo all right that's true okay how's everybody doing how was y'all weekend i thought you wanted to say how's the kids no no i'm getting off this i know when to venture elsewhere how are the kids asking you oh oh they're great. That is a great segue. I used to use, how about them Yankees? I guess that's over with.

The Yankees are creeping up, man. Creeping up. It's possible. We'll still get the wild cards. No, it's not. They'll get the wild card, and they'll be at full strength, and they'll be good. And in October, yep, October, oh, I'm going gonna have a blast when New Yorkers are calling for the

funeral of Sonny Gray I'm saying that not the real funeral universe but you know New Yorkers are gonna kill Sonny Gray in October and I'm gonna get off the Yankee shit now how was everyone's weekend you guys were out and about Rory was out and about he was in them streets

he was being mixy. I was in them streets, man. Everybody in the club getting mixy. Rory is a really mixy nigga, man. Can we, yo, now that we got the deal and the bag is secured, can we start telling the truth? I think that's how we got the bag from telling the truth. Nah. It's been filtered truth.

Listen, I was with my mom for her birthday. You was at Angie Martinez Barbecue. So I don't know who's mixing this weekend. I asked y'all a direct question and no one answered. Y'all all deflected. The therapist would say that's a sign. Now that the- What does she know?

I'll start with my truth. Hey, I have a truth that I want to admit to y'all now, actually. Okay. I went to do the breakfast clubbing the other day. Okay. Why didn to do the breakfast clubbing the other day. Okay. Why didn't you invite us? Well, your ban is still implemented. Damn it.

Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so my truth is, boy, were they talking bad about you guys right in front of me. I didn't defend it. I know, because you're phony. I didn't defend it at all. I kind of rode with them a little bit.

What were they saying? Rory ain't got hands. Maul never been on no block. Wow. Like a bunch of shit like that. I never been on a block? Yeah. That's what they said.

Who said that? Watch the interview, my nigga. No, what they did say was No no no no Charlamagne told me to tell you That you were dead wrong About your breakfast club Will be over in two months thing

And the same Boisterous Voice that niggas be using When they make these proclamations He said why he don't never hear All of that energy When they be wrong And I was like yo

I feel you my G Wow Yeah you gotta ask that nigga So is this Is this the floor open For us to talk about The club or No I mean I'm just be wrong. And I was like, yo, I feel you, my G. Yeah, you got ass in there. So is this the floor open for us to talk about the club? No, I mean, I'm just starting with... No, no, no. I'm just starting with my truth. Oh, okay.

I'm glad you had an eventful weekend. Your truth is that you're phony and you don't defend the team. Yeah, not all the time. The truth is the breakfast club, you had us announcing that They needed to have you up there That was a pretty big deal So I understand why

They would have you Sir I'm a good guy Man They weren't so quick to call you When it was about music though Yeah He was up there once

Once You know how many years He's been rapping Nah I was up there a bunch of times Don't do that But never talking about music Okay That's actually valid.

That's very different. Yeah, they never played Broke on the radio. Broke was never played anywhere. Let's get into Rory's week. We can know. Wait, why was I trying to get the truth out of people? How come I just hear the truth? What was the other truth I wanted from y'all?

Well, you were saying I was mixy, and I was saying- Oh, yeah. Oh, come on, Rory. I was with my mom on Saturday. You were at Angie Martinez's birthday. Can we make- Y'all stop snitching on other niggas. I'm asking-

It's all over your Instagram. It's all on the timeline. Yeah, but we got to talk about that after we talk about Rory. Rory's a mixy man, no? We can't say that. He's a little mixy. That's fine. Somebody got to go out there and talk to the people.

Yeah, he just said he talks to the people for us. He's the street team for the podcast. Y'all stay at home. I got to go out and touch the people. Listen, man, he's living in his truth. He just said he talks to the people for us. He's the street team for the podcast. Y'all stay at home. I got to go out and touch the people. Listen, man, he's living in his truth. He just said he's the street team. True. Someone photoshopped me into the locks cover.

Yeah, in order to be the street team, you got to be on the streets. Mo, you look slimmer. I'm trying, man. Thank you. Know what I'm saying? In one week? Yeah. Just one week?

Just one week? are you lying something joe seven days changes a lot come on i've known you my whole life man what are you doing out there where'd you go use that bag for some nigga went straight doctor activities dm to bernice can you make a recommendation hey who'd you'd you see? Who'd you see? Can I use your code? All right. Oh, wait. I ain't like the tone in that. I let y'all get y'all's off before.

You know what I mean? I let y'all get y'all's off. It's all good. All right, come on. Did I shout out to anybody out there, or did I just say some bullshit? Yeah, no. We're not shouting anybody out out there yet. All right.

Well, shit. Fuck it. Let's not shout anybody out. Yeah. Okay, so let's get started. Number one, Post Malone is alive. That's important, and it's a little late, but I'm sharing it because last week when we were recording the podcast and we were planning this huge Spotify

announcement the next day and then that Post Malone private jet tire blow up whatever happened in the air went out it's like man if this nigga fucking dies right now I felt sick and thought you better not die right now

we got a big announcement coming don't you try it Post And thought, you better not die right now. We got a big announcement coming. Don't you try it, Post. Post. Post was trying to fuck up our rollout? Yeah, man, trying to die. Can't die on our rollout. Nah, man, that plane better land safely.

Come on, Post, relax. No one was happier than me. I felt sick watching that shit. I was like, damn, they really have live coverage right now of us waiting to see if someone's going to die or not. This is a really sick society we live in. Yeah, that's a fact. I felt sick watching it, but I couldn't turn it off. I had to see. Oh, I felt sick watching it, but I couldn't stop watching.

I didn't watch it. Damn, y'all are sick. Y'all need help. You need help. I agree. Well, that's not true, because you know how many times I watched those? I'm a sucker for all of those top 50 deadliest car chases

I sit there and watch you gotta get out the house I sit there and watch all 50 like ooh here you watch all 50 and be mad like nah 37 was scarier than 32 I've done that

I know you have you look like you do that you do okay where was I going prior to that i forget now me too i don't know where you were going with that at all oh we're talking about death yeah watching uh watching uh watching post-malone yeah i'm not watching that y'all need a lot of mental help i know um death uh neil simon passed let's start let's start with all the negative shit neil

simon passed Rest in peace If you're unfamiliar Well shit I'm about to say The odd couple But shit That probably don't help you Rest in peace Neil Simon

Who else passed John McCain passed John McCain passed Rest in peace Our prayers and condolences To the loved ones And family members Of both of those gentlemen

What else really Really really really Really bad happened Shootout and condolences to the loved ones and family members of both of those gentlemen. What else really, really, really, really, really bad happened? Shootout, Jacksonville, Gamertime. That was pretty horrific as well. Rory Cousin back at it. It can't be Parks Cousin?

No, that's not right. It's your cousin. He did look a little like Parks. I didn't see what he looked like. He looked like Parks leaving Starlit tonight. We should not be joking right now. Yeah, this is bad. Yeah, it's terrible.

It's been like one day. You said it. I'm including myself in case I have to shield you from danger as the famous friend. Okay. Shield me from danger. Fucking danger. Anyway, yeah, really horrific that we just got to put metal detectors in gaming events and hotels, country festivals. I mean, by now, we're probably a little desensitized, unfortunately, because we get about four of these a year annually.

Way more than that. I think it's all tied in, man. I think, you know, that's just my brain. I think certain events like this happen and I think they're okay with it because, you're right, they have to implement

these metal detectors, which is big business, which is companies, which is money. I mean, I think all that shit is tied in somewhere. Gun laws and metal detectors. I think that shit

is tied in together. I agree. Me too, but I mean... They was pissed that he was white, somewhere. Gun laws and metal detectors. I think that shit is tied in together. I agree. Me too, but I mean. They was pissed that he was white, though. I don't even think it's a conspiracy theory anymore. I don't either. Yeah, it's just business. Yeah.

It's just another day of business. This is just business as usual. That's one. Two, President Trump ain't said a word yet, huh? He ain't said a word. No. If he was fucking Muslim, it would have been oh god 48 hours

coverage oh so wait now you know he too busy lowering all the flags on top of the white house to not recognize uh uh mccain yeah like fuck trump yeah i try not to ever talk about trump in this podcast and unless kanye comes up just because he's wilding. But, yeah, Trump is wilding. You know you're wilding. Your own party is trying to end him. McCain was. Here's my thing. McCain said, don't link at my funeral, bro.

Yeah, that's swag. That is. That's swag. See, y'all laughing. I said that same thing about Maul. Those are going to be my instructions. Why can't Maul go to your funeral? Maul can't just walk in my shit.

Why not? Somebody has to know. That's crazy. Someone has to know. What if he's like someone's plus? I got to be a plus at Joe's funeral? That's fucked up. Damn, y'all are funny and my memory is super bad when y'all are funny. Damn it.

What was I just saying? Trump. Yeah, but I had a point well you know Jim Brown came out in fam wait what happened Tiger Woods

fam so a few more on that list that kind of goes into our our all this shit being tied in point like no disrespect

I don't want to hear that shit from Jim Brown but I have a Jim Brown is pro-Trump yeah yeah I have a theory about Jim Brown, though. I think he's at that age with a couple concussions in his career.

Man, if somebody don't take his ass to a home. Jim don't. Get a microphone out of his face. Yeah. Listen, I respect Jim Brown like anybody else respect Jim Brown, but the jig is the jig. We could spot the jig. Jim Brown's a little older. Trump is spending big dollars. Jim Brown also but the jig is the jig. We could spot the jig. Jim Brown's a little older. Trump is spending big dollars.

Jim Brown also played lacrosse, so I'm not really... Yeah, I don't want to hear from no nigga that played lacrosse. So I can see him being a Trump supporter. Send his ass back to his nurse. Yeah, but I've seen a couple of Jim Brown movies. Him being a Trump supporter is weird to me.

Of course it's weird, but it's not weird when you're really looking at the true scope of things. And he did play lacrosse. Come on, I fully expect Tiger Woods to support Trump. You got caught fucking cheating on your voicemail, my nigga. You saved voicemails. You're a billionaire with one trap phone. Any nigga that's saving voicemails. He said his name.

Yo, it's Tiger. It's Tiger. You don't even know how to scandal and fix the situation properly. Olivia Pope the shit. Right. They could call back,

hey, it's Tiger. She's on to us. You don't even know how to get a cheat with a bitch that's going to ride, nigga. White bitches are going to wait

to get rid of Tiger's ass. He still ain't learned. Yeah, I don't want to hear that from from from any of these people but yeah don't get me angry at the start of the podcast that that that's how

we feel and that's that damn now we want to be all woke with a hide to the new white Spotify people oh shit yeah I'm trying to cross over man

I'm trying oh my god I'm trying to yeah I'm trying to fucking change I ain't mad at you, man. No, let's address that. Let's address that before we go any further, too.

Because I want to talk about Aretha Franklin not leaving the will. Because that fucked me up. That stopped me in my tracks wherever I heard it. Now, let's talk about that now. It's been happening a lot, right? Prince didn't leave a will either, right? No, Prince left instructions. They was just locked in a safe somewhere

where only one person had to... No, Prince is the man, man. I'm trying to figure out how to beat a man like that. Like, how you the man in death? And I want to stop talking about death so much at the top of this podcast, but goddamn Prince is the man. Agreed.

So, yeah, she didn't leave a will to fuck me up because she's been sick For a little while Yeah I learned some things About Aretha Miss Aretha Franklin And her death That I didn't know about

When she was alive Like I didn't know She had a kid at 13 I never knew that You know what's funny We never really heard Too much about Aretha's kids Ever

Yeah No I think my mom Mentioned that And it was like You know She had five kids Like we never heard too much about Aretha's kids ever. Yeah. No. I think my mom mentioned that. And it was like, you know, she had five kids. Like, we never, or six, five, we never heard about the kids. That's odd for somebody who's been famous their whole life. Yeah.

Well, maybe not if you want to keep the kid private and protect the world from, protect them from the world. You know, whatever the trick line is. She's been low for a while, too. Yeah. She never, I mean, she was in the spotlight, but she was never in the news like that. But what, I just can't fathom why somebody wouldn't leave a will if you knew you were sick. Somebody with an estate, an empire.

Right. Yeah, I don't know. Like, I understand why Uncle Bobby didn't leave a will. Right. Not saying Uncle Bobby didn't leave a will, but that just... So does it go to her kids, like, just legally? I think it would. I think everything just rolls over.

Yeah. Would y'all do it? What? Make a will? Do you have one now? I don't, but I need to make one. Do you have one now? No.

Do you have one now? With the little bit I have, I need to have a will. Fuck, I'm going to leave somebody. Mom. My phone? Change. Let me get your password. All that Supreme.

Let my nephew get my chain. Yo, my homie get my sneakers. All my Supreme hats go to my cousin. Mom. Fuck, I'm going to leave. Niggas going to be mad at my will reading. Mom, you need a will, man. I don't have a will, man.

But you still need a will. I only know two wills in my whole life. I don't fucking will. Well, you need a will. All right, well, cool. I'm going to claim your portion of the party. All right, my nigga. Yeah, that's wild.

We're not even going to break up Maul's percentage? He never will. I don't know what he wanted to do. Joke about you. That's crazy. He called dibs. Dibs is crazy. No, I'm going to be the wild nigga now.

Listen, Maul told me in confidence. It's always one of those. Yo, now we spoke about this. Yeah, we ain't speaking about a goddamn thing. And I'm not over whoever the hell stole my granddaddy gun out of his house when he was dying, too. I had a plan. Here they come, thirsty fucks. I'm going to find out who it is.

Somebody got the hammer. Somebody took the hammer right out of granddaddy's house. They're going to put a body on it. Me and my father was plotting on that gun for a whole year. That's funny, man. Your other relatives had that same plot. We had the transport planned and everything. So did they, and they got it executed

quickly. They left the funeral quicker than you. They took it a lot closer to New York. Right, exactly. From Sumter. Oh, man. I didn't need that gun anyway. Sometimes God got to protect you from yourself. Yeah, that's true. Alright, God got to protect you from yourself. Yeah, for real. Yeah, that's true.

All right. All right. So we're off her and not leaving the wheel. But boy, her hearse is beautiful. Did you see it? Yeah. Well, I saw the casket. I didn't see the hearse.

No, the hearse. The casket was like gold. Well, I'm going to show you all the hearse because they say it's the same hearse that Rosa Parks and all these amazing people rode in. But that's beautiful. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a sexy hearse.

She deserves it. 100%. I never saw her without a purse. 100%. I wouldn't say sexy. Okay, I mean, I won't. It's a very classy hearse. Yes, Ma, I won't argue with you over the adjectives used.

I'll check out the rims and all that. Gotta get a close-up. Listen, man. I just want my funeral to be open bar. That's it. Yeah, valid. Young people don't care about. Maybe play what we do.

Get a good DJ. An open bar. That's what I need at my funeral. I don't need a cool hearse. I was going to pay for that anyway. With Maul's percentage? No, with yours. You don't have a will either.

You're gone. And Roy told me in confidence that he would want it this way. That's how he wanted it. Yeah. Maul, the young kids don't care about white walls. Well, that's classic. Yeah, they don't know nothing about that.

That's classic. You know what's funny? Just the other day, I was thinking about this too And then we'll start Talking about important shit Like young kids Don't get to hang up on people

Like the good way Yeah like banging somebody Yeah you can't like Hit the ringer Yeah they don't know Yo the hang up The hang up You can feel it

You don't feel the iPhone hang up Yeah not at all Yeah the iPhone hang up Actually encourage you To call back Not to call back But to calm down a little bit. You know what I mean?

You can't bang it. So when you play your what? What's got into me lately? You're like, why did I do that? You know what I'm saying? I'm having a rough day. Sandra didn't deserve it. Right.

Sandra didn't deserve it. That's what I be saying. I be blacking on people on the phone. Yeah, the hang up game. That's quiet ass hang up. It's so trash. Every time I hang up on people on the phone yeah the hang up the hang up game that's quiet ass hang up it's so trash every time I hang up on somebody on that shit

they call right back and with these phones now you don't even know if a nigga really hung up or he just lost service that's why they call back they gotta confirm it yeah you hung up on me

yeah I hung up on you I be banging that shit with conviction on sent she call right back did you drop out or did and I be lying yeah I dropped out

yeah yeah I'm in a tunnel Poor nigga at the Mondrian on South Beach I'm in a tunnel I'm in the elevator I'm in the tunnel I'm in the tunnel in LA I'm in the tunnel in LA

No you're in the tunnel from the Mondrian It's crazy Alright let's get back to the shits here What happened important Rory says it's a slow news week Rory don't know shit though So Jim Brown.

Oh, we talked about John McCain. We talked about everybody passing away, right? Yeah, because that's why we got sad for 25 minutes. Okay, we don't need outstanding yet. Oh, this I thought was interesting. And I'll share this just because I was waking up and turning on Get Up on ESPN, right? With Mike Greeney and Michelle Beadle and Jalen Rose. Because Jalen Rose is everywhere.

I support Jalen Rose. Shout out Jalen Rose. So apparently that show is doing horrendous. Really? And it's been doing horrendous since it came out. Since before it came out. It's at a weird time though, right? Isn't it like 9 o'clock?

No, it comes on at 7.30 a.m. Yeah, it's early. Yeah, but people throw that on in the morning when they're getting ready for work. That should be a good slot. I read reports because they're moving Michelle Beadle from there starting September something, whatever date. So they're doing a mix-up. They're taking her off of the show, moving her to do some NBA shit somewhere else. They're just shuffling the lineup.

And it said that that show is struggling and has never gotten 300,000 views. Not even once. That's wild. Do you know how crazy that is? That is nuts. I like that show. I watch it because I like Jalen. And I like Greeny alone.

I don't really like Greeny with people. Because he just comes off like he's smarter than everybody. And he's really, really smart. But ESPN got a lot of them people up there that come off like they're smarter than everybody. I don't mind that, but you can't come off like that. What's his name? Herd guy. He's the most pretentious motherfucker in the world.

I love him. And don't you say a bad word about him. I love him. And he's smarter than you. And he's smarter than me. I love him. He's one of the people I love disagreeing with. So let's stay on ESPN.

Because when you hear that story, you understand. Well, you know they've been trying to get from under that Jemele Hill contract for a while. Yeah. So let's start there. Yeah, they've been trying to part ways for a minute. No, we don't. We going where she going. No, we don't have any proof of that.

We can't confirm it or prove it in the court of law law but niggas with common sense know they've been trying to get away from Jemele Hill for a little while. If you just know how to read between the lines of things. So they say she got a payout. Confirmed. Six million dollars.

Shit. Super good. Not a payout but you know when they you know the corporate severance. Yeah. Yeah.

When they don't want to deal with black people no more. Fucking give them some shit. That's great. Yeah. Six million is nice. She won't be without For too long

Nah She's super talented Yeah She's too good Another network Is definitely In her email I haven't seen

Michael Smith So much Either That's a good point Lately On ESPN Guilty by association It's a lot going on

Yeah It's a lot It's a lot going on I always like to watch what's going on especially around this time heading into September

could you just see all of the shuffling it's a lot of shuffling yeah well I mean I think on one hand it's good

because you know sometimes it takes you to be let go at a at a workplace to go somewhere else and

and grow I don't know if jamel tell me about it yeah exactly i don't know i don't know jamel hill could it really i mean what was her ceiling at espn you know i mean it's kind of like well i mean it should have been high but they they answered it right because'm with Parks. It could have been high. Same with me and Complex. When you just have, when you just have, when you get a marriage that works and just two people that, or entities that get each other, it makes things really easy. Once one of those parties just don't really understand, it's the same as spades. Are you going to try to teach me about spades and how it parallels to life?

I feel like that's coming. That's coming. Absolutely. No. I was just going to say that and move on. But then I remember, I did read a really good spades quote over the weekend. I was like, hmm, that's interesting. Let me tell you why the universe is funny.

And I'll tell this real quick story about how the universe is fun. I just believe in the universe. You love the universe. I live and die by the universe telling me where and where not to go. I do. Yeah, same. I'm weird in that. What's the universe's voice like?

Mine. Okay. If the universe sounds like you, I'm mad I live in this universe. No, the universe, my voice is not on your universe That'd be a scary head to be in If Joe Budden's voice Was talking to you Yeah Maul would be way better

He'd be a better person The funny shit Y'all laughing at me Now I want to hear what more universe voice is yo yo sound like jadakiss yo hot right there your more universe telling what your bum shit yo she wildin she tell us she's wildin your more universe you say that's crazy in his voice yeah no this is why the universe is crazy you ready for this well i i subscribe to this this thinking but this is

how i know it's true right our spotify deal my big blow up with complex right initially was over Spotify. Right? And it was them, it was them striking a deal with Spotify and not trying to pay me. And me blindly saying, hey, that's not right. If Spotify is giving y'all money, up my shit. So technically,

if they give me just another 20 grand, none of this happens. I don't say a fucking word. If they just give me another 20 grand, in my head, that would have been great business. In my head, we would have just kept going forward.

They would have had a relationship with Spotify, paying them a whole bunch of money. I would have took my 20 grand every time I read some shit and that would have been the end of that. Right? But instead,

the Joe Budden voice came in. Joe Budden flips the fuck out. This time he flips out. As Joe Budden does. And the people are actually on his side. Cool, right? And then who's the middleman to solicitate the Joe Budden Network deal with Spotify? Take a guess.

Take a fucking guess. Take a guess Take a fucking guess Take a guess You fucking You fucking guessed it I didn't guess yet Nick Rosenberg Nick Rosenberg Round of applause to Nick Rosenberg

Yeah I'm just telling you the universe I'm just telling you the universe That's Pete's brother Oh okay Nick That's interesting You brother. Oh, okay. Nick. That's interesting. You've never heard that name, right? I don't know. Good guy. I fuck with Nick. Great.

Round of a fucking applause for Nick Rosenberg out there. Turn this shit up for Nick. Thanks, Nick. Who knew? Who has that verse, that rap verse? That's a whole verse somewhere, right? Who knew that the kid that loved apple pies at McDonald's?

He who knew the whole verse, though. Shut up. I'm trying to help you out. No, I'm telling Hov to shut up. Okay. Come on. We know you're clever. You have no way to prove anything anymore.

And who knew at the end of the WM... God damn it. Nick Rosenberg, right? You don't have to prove anything anymore. And who knew at the end of the W, ah, goddammit. Nick Rosenberg, right? If that's not enough for the universe, because y'all don't seem thrilled yet. Complex moves. They moved a whole other building. Spotify puts a billboard up.

Guess where the billboard is. You guessed it. Complex. Right by Complex. Oh, no, that's not it. It gets better? There's more? It's also exactly where i proposed that's funny that is funny the universe wait the same place where you was holding up the

sign yeah the video that's funny the universe it's the same exact spot i didn't request that the universe said yes all right all right All right. All right. All right. Okay. When Tahiri says no, the universe says yes. When Tahiri said no, the universe said yes. See, this is exactly when your universe should chime in like, yo, leave Joe alone now. Yo, you should chill off Joe. That's the truth, though.

That's the Jim Moore universe. Nothing important. It's talking like four words per. Let's talk about Moore for a little bit. Okay, let's talk about Moore. The whole room thinks you're a weirdo. That's fine. I'm used to being in rooms like that.

No, but you at least have to know when people think you're a weirdo. I do. We're all weird, though. We are. Moore seems like he's about to have some adjustment issues to being responsible.

No? Rory's snickering over here. No, it's not an adjustment. Erickson's trying to act like he's playing with the thing. Erickson, you don't need to know battery. You need to focus.

Yeah. The camera's charged, Erickson. They're not reading something. What the fuck are y'all doing? It's not adjusted. It's just, I just brought it up. Like, I thought about it, and I was like, damn. Like, this is like, it's really, it's real now.

Damn, we got to go to work. Yeah, yeah. Shit. Now it's not like on the strength anymore. Nah. Nah, I like on the strength. I don't like off the strength. You're going to learn a lot

about yourself through this deal. I'm learning a lot about myself. I've learned that I'm going to stay in the house. I'm going to stay in the house now because I've become network man. You stayed in the house before though? Yeah.

I know, but for different reasons. For just liking to sulk in my own misery. Now I'm not miserable. So I want to get out the house. Oh, okay. But every fucking time I step out the house, I turn into a network man,

and people start networking with me about things. They ain't even like shit that's in the same field. We stepped out Friday. You didn't do any networking. Where'd we go Friday? Starlets. I was with my girl. Yeah.

Oh, no, your girl shields you from having to talk to the world. Oh, okay. Yeah, and she's a great excuse If you do get caught In that conversation Yeah yo my girl Network with her

You know how many times I've lied to say My girl was tripping And she wasn't tripping Just so I could get out Of a certain situation Yeah word She wasn't tripping at all

My girl tripping Let me get back to you Home you How come your girl Never trip when you Need her to trip Word They be the best girl ever.

When you don't need them to be. Word. I just told my friends the whole story that we went through, and now you're just happy. It's the same reason you got to lie to your girl when the truth is perfectly fine. Because sometimes the truth doesn't look like the truth, and it's going to get her mad. So you have to lie about something that you didn't need to lie about. Let's hear an example. You ever tell a girl the complete, honest truth,

and she still think you're lying? Absolutely. That's funny. No, that happens. I know it does. It happens a lot. I lie to avoid that. You lie to avoid her not believing the truth yeah yeah that's some genius level

shit right there no that's just how nuts women are that you have to lie about the truth i think men do it all the time i don't think i don't think a lot of men are sharp enough to do it all the time it takes a certain level of sharp to do no because your girl hit you with something like all right what you about to do and then like what if you about to go do something that is just regular but it sounds like a little shaky? Oh, no, I'm going to go pick up, just name any girl. Name any name. Name a homegirl of yours. Sasha.

Sasha. I'm going to go pick up. Who? Sasha. I'm going to go pick up Sasha. Me and her probably go get a bite to eat or something Drive around Play some tunes You know what I mean Just drop her back off

And then me back up with you Perfectly fine To us That ain't happening In her store You are fucking You're blowing Sasha's back out

In the back seat You got around With no girl playing No tunes Nah so now I gotta lie to you So me and Sasha Can hear tunes

Yeah Yeah And I'm going To hear the tunes I'm with you no tunes. Nah, so now I got to lie to you so me and Sash can hear tunes. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm going to hear the tunes. I'm with you. I feel you on that. There you go. All right,

join us, nigga. We trying to leave us out on the ledge. I'm here. I'm here. Are you going to get a girlfriend now that we got a deal?

Now's the time. Nah, because now you can't. You've kind of talked yourself into a corner. You got to be careful. You got to own your truth. Let me just tell y'all

something. Own your truth. The dating scene is terrible for me. truth. Let me just tell y'all something. Own your truth. The dating scene is terrible for me. I think, as my friends, y'all have made it extremely difficult on me. Y'all paint this narrative of me that women just listen to and they think I'm just terrible. I'm just waiting to see how you maneuver with the bag, my nigga. That's it. What you mean?

I'm the same nigga. I just told you exactly what I mean. I don't know. Joe, you know me. I'm the same, man. Listen, this is. What you mean? I'm the same nigga. I just told you exactly what I mean. I don't know. Joe, you know me. I'm the same, man. Listen, this is me, bro. You know I don't change. I'm not that guy.

I know, but I just got to see it. I'm the same. You seeing it. Whatever I do now is what I'm going to be doing. Let me continue to see it. Okay, no problem. That's it.

All right, come on. Let's talk about some real shit. Let's talk about Lauren. The clap back. One day we're going to have a real conversation about Lauren one day. No, we are

Let's hear it Your nigga's got to stop saying that And not telling us what the conversation is Nah because I don't want to I think it's corny if we have it right now Because you know This news just came out All of this is going on

So it's like But we don't have to have it Just tell me what the topic is One day Overrate it Don't do that Yeah Wow

I knew he was going to do it He was going to do it I knew he was going to do it I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get in that train because we can it's not listen but

just listen somebody can make the argument this is I'm just trying to I'm just listen man I'll never disrespect the queen no it's not

it's not a disrespect thing because Lauren is great like I'm not saying but this if we're gonna give Lauren had one great album left

this is what I'm saying she was part of the score great album Unplugged was good Unplugged was great this nigga brought up Unplugged yeah that album is amazing

that's not supporting things I'm not saying it wasn't but come on what are we talking about we Maul's correct we do Lauren is on that pedestal

to a lot of people so you can't your second point can't be the Unplugged when we're talking about we got her on God and let me hold on before people kill me let me let me say loud and clear i love lauren hill great extremely talented not taking nothing away from her but i've been over the years

i sit back and listen to people talk about lauren hill and they put her in this category and i'm just like but why do y'all just put her there like that? Miseducational, Lord Hill. I understand. Great album. No, it's more than that. Great album? It's more than a great album.

No, it's a great album. No, it's one of the greatest. What are we going to say? Is it phenomenal? Whatever word y'all want to use. It's one of the greatest albums. Okay, one of the greatest. That shit is still producing hits this year. Yeah.

One of the greatest albums. You can make a case that it is the greatest album. Yeah. One of the greatest, if not the greatest album. make a case that it is the greatest yeah one of the greatest if not the greatest album well she she addressed it's your point in this article album mom you don't have to slow talk me i see i'm just i'm just saying it's only one out now if you can't it's a lot of artists that put out a lot of great albums a lot of dope bodies of work and we don't put them nowhere near that all right so let's you just well you just said we wasn't gonna have to talk today in this in this rough time for her but let's stay there because robert glasper am i saying that name

correctly yeah robert glasper did an interview a few weeks back and it was right after we finished recording that's why we didn't touch on it but uh and he talked about the rumors that have been floating about lauren hill and the miseducation for quite some time that she didn't write a single fucking record on there yeah uh and that's what he said and he went on to say that he's close to some writers and and then he has some information he didn't sound like he was just throwing some shit out hoping it stuck well I think it came off wrong I think what he was trying to say in that instance was all my friends that produced on that album were not credited at all. I don't think he was flat out saying, no, she didn't write a thing.

She just wasn't properly credited. But it came off a little different. I know a handful of musicians, writers, and producers that were not credited on the album. They've done Rolling Stone articles. This isn't information that hasn't been out here for the last 20 years. Right. So what does that mean, though? See, and that's what I mean about that whole culture of ultra conversation that I'm not going to go back to.

That's the music business, Robert Glasper. Glasper or Glasper? Glasper. Glasper. Who's very talented, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please, I'm not trying to be funny by mispronouncing his name. But that's the music business.

Sometimes. Not the most time. That's the music business. It's been the music business as long as I've been in the music business sometimes not the most time that's the music but i've it's been the music business as long as i've been in but that's a problem um okay so by you just saying it's the music but yeah so we have to fix the music business i know but let's compartmentalize really quickly i'm not ready to shame lauren hill because of what was common practice in the music business so if she didn't credit some writers if she didn't credit some arrangers i don't know but i that doesn't give me enough to say to lessen her contribution to such a great project oh yeah no it's not don't never lessen her contribution but we have to acknowledge what is right is right and wrong is

wrong on the other stuff I'm with you we can have that conversation one day about is she overrated or not but as far as this album goes

I don't care about this what do you mean I don't care who wrote it oh yeah when it comes down to listening to the end result I don't either but I would like the people

that did contribute to be credited I agree and paid yeah listen no I don't either, but I would like the people that did contribute to be credited and paid. Yeah. Listen, no. You don't want people

that contributed to the album to be credited and paid for their work? No, shut up. Of course I want them to be credited and paid.

However, I don't take for granted the decision making that has to be done when you're at that crossroads. So if they weren't credited back then, when everyone was lesser known and no one knew decision making that has to be done when you're at that crossroad so if they weren't credited back then when they when everyone was lesser known and no one knew what the final result would be

then my question is why were you robbed was it an agreement was it a work for hire was what yes i have a million questions there so and i'm not taking what rory just said because in this age of social media robert clasper is not the person who should be telling us this. Well, the producers have spoken and done interviews, like extensive ones. Okay, that's great that they did interviews. There's more of the process to go through if they are standing behind these words. They sued her too. Yeah, they did.

There was a big lawsuit. I think they won. I believe they did too. Yeah, they did. There was a big lawsuit. I think they won. I believe they did too. Subtle at least. I don't know how much money they got, but I think they just really got their name back. Somebody fact check that. Say, Vaughn, you fact check that.

Because if that's the case, then we getting Lauryn Hill the fuck out of here now. Why do you say that? If she ain't write shit. No, no, no. I don't know that she didn't write shit. I've read the articles with all those producers. They never suggested that.

Rory, read me what Lauryn Hill has to say, please, because we're doing too much guessing. Well, it's a really long article, but to this exact point, she said, you may be able to make suggestions, but you cannot write for me. I am the architect of my creative expression. No decisions are made without me. I hire master builders and masterful artists. That sounds like a bunch of help. I mean.

Oh, that sounds like. Get Lauren out of here. That sounds like. That didn't say shit. That didn't help us with anything, Lauren. That doesn't explain anything. But it does kind of in a way. Because if you are.

Quincy Jones. Yeah. I mean, well, that's. See, the line of producer and artist and musician and writer all gets kind of blurry. Yeah. But if someone was writing the songs, they should be credited. If someone was producing the songs, they should be credited. Point blank.

I believe the production company was New Ark. Yes, I believe you're right. Was the name of them. Yeah. She won't even credit them niggas now. Like, that's why she said, I hired these people to do their job. Which she goes into more detail about it did she name any names no she's not no so what was the detail because if she didn't give

us details then don't fucking give me details that don't give details i agree are you coming forward are you coming forth now crediting these people yes or no no i have to assume there's a reason why well she says she hires builders and- I don't give a fuck. Stop telling me about that. I'm just telling you what Lauryn Hill said. We all hire fucking people we think are master fucking builders. We don't give a fuck what she's talking about.

Just tell me what she said. But most people credit them. That's only where it stands with me. Yeah. Credit the master builders. I think she wrote a lot of this. Again, no proof. I just think that.

All I'm asking is why won't she still acknowledge them today? Because they sued the shit out of her and said really bad things in the press. Fuck y'all. Or? If she won that, but if she won that battle, then this press release means nothing to me. Now, again, I'm sticking by my original point. I don't care because i got the music already yeah like to me i have the music is one of the greatest albums ever created i'm not getting into i'm not

getting anything else heard i mean but it does it does you know if she don't do she wasn't never putting out another album anyway that's what i'm saying it's not like we're like oh shit now the music is about to sound vastly different moving forward no no this is we don't know she's putting out another album or not we don't know that mom no all right were you looking for it were you checking the charts were you checking the i think everybody wanted another lauren hill album yeah i'm talking about all right fam if we just gonna argue for the sake of arguing no yes there was a fucking point where everybody wanted a lauren hill album in recent years last 20 years in recent years does it look like we're getting another lauren oh no it doesn't

look like no but you said that wasn't what you said yes it is i said it's not like we're talking about somebody that was delivering music consistently we don't know she ain't put music out since then it's been 20 years why do we care if her sound is, who cares? No, I don't care. I don't give a fuck. I do wish that everybody would get their proper credit. That's it.

That's where I'm at with it. If you worked on the album, it's such a great album. Hopefully they got paid. Who knows what the arrangement was. That changes people's lives. If my name is on that album credited as a writer,

that can change the course of my life. Being a Grammy Award winning producer says something. That can change the course of my life. Being a producer or writer on one of the greatest albums ever that we just all changed the course of your life yo all the conversations that that we have now magically paint me out to like be like some industry change nigga i always see the flip side of what y'all say i see both sides what do y'all

what are y'all willing to sacrifice as an up-and-coming artist i know a lot y'all two outside of parks have never been an up-and-coming artist i know a lot y'all too outside of parks have never been an up-and-coming artist but why do y'all just keep making it sound like everything needs should be in favor of the up-and-coming artists like sometimes the up-and-coming artist is not down with the the scandal i see what you're saying but but we have to stop doing i will say something that i if i'm writing on a project i want my name on the project yeah there are a million instances today and you too savvy to say this bullshit you know i'm just saying me i can't speak for the niggas that let

that shit fly okay but let's talk about what's going on because we have an audience we need to talk to there are a million artists out there writing on projects that they are well aware they're not being credited for. Well, I will say this. Voluntarily. Not being robbed. Not with a gun to their head. Not with an exec saying,

that's a common practice. I will say this to the upcoming artists that may be listening, is sacrifice money, sacrifice time, sacrifice anything in the world, but do not sacrifice your credit because that's the shit

that lasts forever. That's the shit that will get you paid forever. That's the shit that immortalizes you. That's forever. Sacrifice anything you want, but do not sacrifice the credit.

Good words for us. I'm with him. Are you? Because it sounds like you wasn't. No, it sounds like I understand because along my way, I've had to make

a lot of those decisions myself so i understand like i had to figure out why enough and certain niggas wasn't playing my record when they wasn't playing it right it's not as simple as oh they're not just playing the record sometimes it's oh do i have do i do i have a piece of this record do i have a piece of you am i invested in your situation am i friends with the person at your label like like i guess so i i don't mean to sound like industry bullshit i don't mean to sound like the person that gets the exec side i just sound like the nigga who is like kind of going through the ring and was like oh like i had to learn all

this shit the hard way no so i understand some acts who i understand a nigga even now with us today i totally expect a nigga to come up to us offering us some some shit to play a record for sure no absolutely it's already happened you can look at my dms and find them i ain't gonna play it at all but they don't really need us to Today with the internet Everybody got the internet We rocking right now With this great podcast

On the internet In the radio days Nah nigga You needed to have a record On the radio For sure And if you didn't have a record On the radio

Like yeah That's when all that DJ gatekeeper shit Was going on Them niggas would dead you Man Don't get me mad No man I understand what you're saying I'm just saying Back to what Park said You know Just your credit gatekeeper shit was going on them niggas would dead you man don't get me mad no but i understand

what you're saying i'm just saying back to what park said you know just your credit and yes we want listen let me tell you how my ogs taught me i'm down to fight for all the niggas that's down to fight for themselves y'all already know how i give it up i got 18 years of fighting the good fight against the system i don't need to preach or lecture any of that shit y'all already know how I give it up I got 18 years of fighting the good fight against the system I don't need to preach or lecture any of that shit y'all know where I stand but I stand there cause it's a courageous stance to take I don't

knock other people for not taking the stance before this podcast started I was reading Wale's tweets and he'd sound like yeah enough is enough man like well I'm about to start doing something different like you know what I mean? Niggas just opening their minds to some other shit.

Well, because this is that era we're in now. You're in an era where you can basically control your entire movement. But if you fucking creators are not down to fight the fight, I ain't fighting for y'all. I'm not fighting for the great. No, you have to, though.

No, I do not. No, I do not. No, I do not. Well, I guess let me be clear, because some people just don't understand that they need to fight for credit. And I am fighting for them. I am not fighting for the people

who are relinquishing their rights for very little. My fight is for artists, it's the same shit you're saying for artists to understand their worth to understand what getting a credit means to understand the proper value that is attached to certain things part of the reason i retired soon as i told niggas i was a rapper they just started putting bullshit numbers next to things no that's wrong right that's incorrect it doesn't go that way you know so so our job is that there's plenty of entertainers out there that's playing the game it's that's it's the same reason why just a few

weeks ago i said i'm not going to support nikki minaj's stance when she was on her shit talking about create no you've been playing the game right do not do it now because the game is don't do it because the game because the game changes the game changes all the time don't do it now don't do it because the game because the game changes the game changes all the time don't do that now nah there's always room on the bus at the mention of Nicki Minaj let's talk about Nicki

for two seconds we've spoken about her a lot over the past you know during her rollout so I'm not gonna fuck I knew that was gonna happen uh Savon take this please

grab some paper towels speaking of Nicki and uh and Lauren she also mentioned Harriet Tubman in this article and I didn't think

I'd hear Harriet Tubman's name this much this month I wish y'all would leave Harriet Tubman out of things what is wrong people are so stuck on themselves

why Harriet Tubman is rolling around I mean you know It's a great article though Before we switch Everyone should check it out No There's a lot of shit here

That you would agree with When I was reading it I was like This kind of sounds like Joe There's a lot of dancing in there too I was also watching The Rodney Harrison Story the other day

I was like Damn he sounds a lot like me But I looked up his sign Oh my god What is Rodney Harrison's sign bro But I looked up his sign. Oh my God. What is Rodney Harrison's sign, bro? I looked up Rodney. Asajj or some shit.

You're weird, bro. No, that's just Joe. I'm watching NFL Network. A lot of striking resemblance. Some similarities going on. No, I'm not reading it if she ain't even telling us. No, she ain't telling me nothing. I know how ain't telling me nothing.

I know how to avoid the corporate shuffle. No, it just sounds like the Lauryn Hill shuffle for how she's spoken on things for her whole career. A lot of artistic mystique in that. Well, I kind of like that she didn't do the artistic mystique thing and literally titled it Addressing Robert Glasper and Other Common Misconceptions About Me. That's true. That's dope. She got right to the shit. Yeah, I do like the headline.

Yeah. And I like medium. I just don't want to hear shit from her if she's not going to acknowledge the people that contributed to one of the greatest albums ever. She danced a little bit.

No, she danced a lot in the part I read. Right. But it's fine. She's still Lauren. Yeah, no doubt. Still one of her favorite albums ever. She's still a queen.

People usually dance. She was on the score. Yeah. People usually dance on the score. Yeah. People usually dance when they're on the score. They've done something wrong. Listen, so let me get to Nicki Minaj, right?

Because, boy, I love when this happens. I really do. Honestly. I love when when, like, the music industry pushes a lie

to the fans fans faces with conviction i love when anybody lies with conviction like when they're adamant about their lie i gotta live on that lie yeah like when they're willing to die with the lie and that's camp that's dangerous because that is really what makes a good liar well it's one of the things are you how how how how willing are you to live and die with your life so but when when bad all right so let me let me rephrase when bad liars lie with conviction that's what it is wrong and strong yeah oh man so last week week when Nikki was lying to us, I was like, yo, she's going hard with the lie.

Like, this is a 700 word lie. She was telling us, like she called, and this is always a telltale sign. I said that wrong, but whatever. Whatever. This is always a sign when this is happening. They normally start insulting you. They normally call you a name, and they normally always say, everyone should know.

Or, if you were smart, you'd know. Or some variation of that. Or just shut the fuck up. So Nikki was explaining on Instagram why her tour was pushed back. What'd she say? Who cares? Before we even get into what she said, we know a lie is coming. If we've been in the industry, we know a lie is coming. If we've been in the industry, we know a lie is coming.

When somebody hits the net to tell us why a tour is pushed back, goddammit, a lie is coming. And this shit was pushed back far. And she got pushed back to next year. No, not early next year, next May. That's a wild pushback. That's a long pushback. So she came on Instagram dissing us.

Not us, but the audience. Oh, okay. If you were smart, you would know I had to push the album back, which means I would have to push the tour back, which means that the single got pushed back. This is normal happenings in the industry, but you wouldn't know any of that would you, you peasants? I was reading that shit like,

this won't end well. Listen, man. This is going to end bad. Harriet Tubman had to push back sometimes too. I ain't going to let y'all do that to Harriet. Harriet had a plan and she executed. What? She could have left a day late?

That's true. Weather. The framework's true. Weather. The camera was delayed. Weather was a little iffy. Weather was a little iffy at night. Lie! I said this was going to end bad. Well, do you remember how she swagged out the lie with the album pushback?

She's like, do you guys want the greatest rapper of all time on the album pushback She's like Do you guys want The greatest rapper Of all time on the album Of course we all had to say yes We're gonna have to push it back We're never gonna say no to that We had to say yes Who was she talking about I think Em

Oh I think Okay I mean I like Foxy But I don't think I don't think it was Foxy Well Wayne was on the album too right Yeah but he was on the single

That was already out So she had to be talking about him Look at us Process of elimination That was very hard fellas I'm glad we solved that riddle No wonder we got the bag Yeah

Yeah Future chimed right in The other day On Twitter I love when Future tweets things yeah future chimed right in the other day on twitter I love when future tweets things he's an underrated tweeter yo that's why I canceled yo that thing broke that thing broke

I don't think niggas really understand how funny that is no that's that's pretty funny yo tour canceled that was pretty easy but wait and nikki didn't even come back on to tell us like oh yeah that's what i'd be mad at. She didn't tell us why it was canceled? Yeah, face us finding out about the lie. You got to face it. She'll be back this week. Queen Radio. Yeah.

Listen now. So let's talk. It's canceled. We kind of knew that was going to be coming because the tour tickets, right? Reports came out last week that the tour tickets are low. And I'm not going to say low, but low. If you're selling out arenas, if you're selling 4,000 tickets to a 20,000 person venue,

then it's low. And if the ticket ticket sales are low, because we know those things before anything else, uh, yeah, somebody would hit you and say, Hey, push that shit back.

And when it's a, a tour of that magnitude with arenas, the pushback is that exponential a year it's expensive that's a lot of pushback she should have known a cancellation was coming yeah I think she did

cause why would you tour if it's not hot now what's gonna happen unless she's got another album coming so then I was talking to somebody who is not really as into hip hop and music as us. And they were like, they said, well, is that bad? Like, what's the big deal? Like, everybody does arenas. I'm sure all of them don't sell out.

And I was like, damn, maybe people probably think that everybody does do arenas i'm sure all of them don't sell out and i was like damn maybe people people probably think that everybody does do arenas now like the casual fan i never stopped to think about what the casual fan thinks we see so many artists collaborating and we normally just see them in an arena right and some of these tours we having a bunch of niggas they just probably they the fans are not paying no attention to the business that goes behind packing out a fucking arena night in night out drake just did five nights in new york madison square garden do y'all think that's simple no that's insane that's nuts yeah drake is different yeah like i remember when hove sold out the garden for the first time and that was a big deal huge deal and then i remember every

time he did the garden we were selling out in an hour or something like that was a big deal today we're not in those times uh as a culture hip-hop so yeah niggas anybody ain't doing a tour let's see who drake travis wayne didn't do it tra Travis is doing one. Travis is so ill, he took the seats out of his. He said, I want all the seats out of the arena, standing room only, in an arena. I think that's just a floor. I don't think that's like. So? I wouldn't give a fuck if it was just a bathroom.

Yeah. You know how many more people could fit in a bathroom without seats? Without toilets? Well, wait. Why would we be in the bathroom, though? Because there's no seats on the floor. I'm just saying the mind state of someone who's saying... Well, Drake did that with his show.

Drake is Drake. Drake can do anything in music. He's different. Travis Scott saying, take all the fucking seats out. It's like, yeah, nigga. That's like, I've arrived. That's his, I've arrived. Yeah, I'm here. Anyway, it's's tough not very many people could do that i was off on a tangent yeah

no it's only a handful maybe less than a handful jake jay is doing it and we're talking about rappers hove is doing it drake is doing it kendrick is doing it cole is doing it give me the fifth because i don't know it rapper chris brown is my fifth as a rapper and he raps but m won't even do it but he can of course i thought you said could he could who do it oh who can do it oh who who does who does do it those are the five to me after that you got to kind of jump in you got that's how we start seeing all these collaborative tours that's how we start seeing

I mean well Kanye's still on that list obviously oh yeah 100% 100% Kanye's there speaking of Kanye

Kanye said that he's better than all of us and what and I know he's told us that every day he's been telling us

that every day of our entire life for the past 12 years he told us that every day. Yeah, I was going to say. He's been telling us that every day of our entire life. Yeah, for the past 10, 12 years. He told us that shit with his jaw wired. Did we ever talk about that jaw wire situation? Listen, man. Are we going to be the ones? What?

What about it, man? Are we going to? Listen, I used to back Kanye for everything. Let's not turn it to those guys, man. No, what guys? No, because more, because we're experienced, and I'll use that word, experienced. I won't say old.

I just remember all these rumors, and when you speak to younger people, they have no idea about it. So me and Rory and I were talking one day, and he had no idea about the rumor that was circulating about Kanye not really getting in a car accident for that whole jaw wire through the wire shit.

Like, that rumor was out. Right? Have you heard it? Have you heard it? Yeah, of course. Erickson, have you heard it? Savon, have you heard it? All right, but you fucking 14.

So Rory, you know Rory has the college dropout teddy bear on his bed. Every night. Can't go to sleep without it. That news kind of shocked his world.

So then I was like, damn, I wonder how many other people never heard that rumor. Yeah, I mean, it was just a rumor,

but I mean, he definitely- Oh, here come you. How can you confirm, nigga? I mean, were you driving?

Were you in the car? He definitely was in the car. Your universe said that? brother. He definitely was in a car accident. Your universe said that? No, my universe didn't say that. But Kanye was definitely- Yeah, more universe telling about other people. Kanye was in a car accident today.

Wear your seatbelt, more. Yo. That's funny. Yo, check and see if Kanye's good, yo. Heard some shit went down. His universe giving him the Angela Yee report. Yo, check and see if Kanye's good, yo. Heard some shit went down. He's universe giving him the Angela Yee report. His universe is flashing lights on High 97.

Fuck out of here, Mo. All right, never mind. So yeah, that's all for that arena conversation. Did we wrap everything up there? Are we happy about that? I guess. I mean, it's back to Nicki living and dying on her number shit. All she was talking about was stats, stats, stats. Now the stats are not there.

Now you got to live on that. Die on that hill. Important to note, we're saying die on that hill, but she moved 95,000 records the second week. That's good. Which is great. That's great. That's a good first week. No, but to us, that's great.

Not for her. But to Nikki's perception that she's built up it's not that perception is over I don't want to talk about perception with people no more I don't want to that word

I don't like talking about perception that perception I think at this juncture is over with well someone tell her that no one needs to see no one needs no they are though

they're telling her that without telling her that but no one needs to see people know certain things I don't give a fuck about what you't know her co-host telling her she's the greatest rapper that ever lived so i mean the people in her camp clearly aren't telling her the truth well she could be the best female rapper that ever lived i don't know but you're not a superstar if if you can't sell out arenas you're not you're not i think that's and that and that's

and that's why see that's the the hip-hop that we got to start getting back to because there was a phase where that part was lost. Remember we had a conversation, the difference between superstars, stars, niggas that ain't stars. For a long time, people put out the perception. I credit Ross with this because he's the greatest gold act in the world. Ross is the biggest gold artist that we've ever seen and probably will ever see he kind of changed the game so now niggas is great

at tricking the perception so Nicky has been a superstar forever but you're not but you're not but just on that superstar thing

you're not she's a superstar still no she's not no she's not no you're not you're not support it cause we had this talk

so let me stop you before you try if you're not selling the records you can't sell out arenas how are you a superstar her personality is who she is

the superstars you think she can go out in eastern Russia and not be recognized because I think that she would probably get recognized

no matter where she is if she goes to Europe she'll sell out arenas I'm almost positive of that for sure they cancelled the Europe leg she'll sell out arenas. I'm almost positive of that. For sure. They canceled the Europe leg.

She couldn't sell a ticket. She added the hottest nigga in the world. Yes. Wow. She added the hottest nigga. She added to the cost. She bought tickets for like American pop, hip hop.

Yeah, y'all niggas. 50 cents, new arenas. If Nikki couldn't sell out a European tour, that surprises me. They canceled. I didn't know that. That's where they were supposed to go first. out A European tour That surprises me They canceled I didn't know that

That's where they were Supposed to go first Okay yeah that surprises me And they canceled it That's very surprising to me And that is alarming For They always say

That's a sign Of what your American ticket Is going to look like Yeah So when that came back I'm sure she got the call And was like

I'm sure they had to Handle that behind the scenes But that got canceled first And then this got canceled So no They didn't cancel the european they just pushed back to the north american like they didn't okay all right i was about to say she can't sell european tickets yeah okay savon savon with the save they have not canceled it yet they have pushed it back far i'm not trying to be funny. I know you're not,

but just the way you had it so far in there is like name, name a superstar and put their concert tickets on sale tomorrow anywhere. And I'm going to tell you how they're going to do. No, that's the end of that conversation for me. And I'm not saying that to knock her. Cause I still support her and like the album, but I will say,

let's just start calling a spade a spade no I agree with that I will say one thing and going Rory and I went to the concert Friday and yeah Drake is

he's an elite superstar like he's in a he might be in a class what is it fucking obvious no no because I yeah small Drake is a superstar

I've only been to maybe one other Drake concert before Friday. And his show now is everything that entails with a superstar. How long was his set? His set? Maybe two hours. Two hours, yeah.

Probably a little over two hours. All hits. Let me say that. But let me say that. No, but I'm saying just the stage, production, everything. I can see the stage. That shit. That shit was crazy.

And he didn't even need to rap. He could have put the beat on and the audience would have done the whole show. Stage, production, everything. I can see the stage. That shit. That shit was crazy. And he didn't even need to rap. Yeah, that was crazy. He could have put the beat on and the audience would have done the whole show. I saw him a couple years ago at Governor's Ball and it was like that. He didn't have to rap.

The whole crowd just rapped. I mean, he did. The entire set. Granted, I was exhausted watching it. That motherfucker was running all across that stage. No, but this is like two hours. I was like, damn.

See, he went from the last time I saw him it was just that. It was records. It was, you know, a couple things floating here and there whatever

this is like now he's getting into that real artist flying Lamborghini or Ferrari but it's just the 3D imagery

the stage him being on that big of a stage with nothing just literally with just him that says a lot with just him

that says like I need everyone to look at that's always always sexy yeah and that and he phenomenal that show was crazy

like I was I was very impressed anytime you see the artist out there and just by themselves alone yeah it's always crazy

Brandon I like a lot of the showmanship stuff but some people kind of lean on that yeah yeah exactly but Maul you are the

you are the at least 15th person to tell me that about this current Drake concert that's going on. G-Spin told me that. Like, a bunch of people say this is the greatest Drake show. Okay, so that's what I'm trying to say. Like, when you go and you see it,

you'll understand, like, okay, he has been separate from the pack for a while, but he's really moving into another spot now. It's a flying Lamborghini at Madison Square Garden. He's moving into another spot now. He's definitely moving into another spot. Just looking at that show, he's solidifying, like, I'm just different from everybody else. Don't put me in that category anymore. So you got to Rory made sure he was good.

You got in? Yeah, I was good. I'm actually happy to hear that you were impressed, Maul, because Chris came up to me, because you know Maul is cooler than everybody. So Maul was just leaning up watching the show,

chilling. Chris come up to me and whisper in my ear, bro, is Maul impressed by anything? No, but I'm there to watch the show. So I'm literally just

standing there watching the show. Like, I didn't know what else to, he asked me if I wanted to drink I told him I didn't drink he thought that was the craziest shit in the world

like brought him a drink Chris is like he thinks everything is the craziest yeah like Chris wants to just turn up and just dance I'm here I literally was watching the show

because I wanted to see you know what the stage production was about and it was dope man it was dope very well thought out very well executed

you can tell they spent a lot of money on this tour I spoke to you And we spent like I spoke What day was that Saturday Friday

Friday Right It was Friday Yeah Before I went Yeah I spoke to you Friday We spent 10 minutes Laughing at Rory

And then we said We were going to do it On the podcast And now you just You're just not trying to laugh Oh about Rory But no you But no you started it

You started the conversation. Yeah, that's my job. This is making me feel really good about myself. I'm walking us in. I'm leading us into the joke. Okay, so lean into the joke. Nah, it's corny now.

If you forgot. No, I didn't forget now that you bring it up, but say how you called me and what you told me. Damn, I'm going to sound super phony now. You are phony.

Yeah. So it's okay. No, but I don't be liking the are phony. Yeah. So it's okay. No, but I don't be liking the sound phony. Sound. And let me just tell the audience out there, yeah, god damn it. I'm writing down the jokes. I'm writing down anything that happened funny to safeguard against all you niggas that's waiting for us to fail.

Not going to happen. Because that's what happens when niggas get it bad. They start waiting for you to fail. No, them niggas ain't. No, they don't wait. Not going to happen. Because that's what happens when niggas get it back. They start waiting for you to fail. Oh, no, them niggas ain't. No, they going to wait. You going to see them now? Yeah, the audio already sounding different.

Yeah, the audio's the same. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. Now, all right, Rory. I'll come clean. I'm the only one that comes clean on this podcast. I call them all

and I didn't say hello. I just was laughing okay I don't normally even talk to Maul anytime I talk to Maul during the week it's because

he calling to be silly yeah I'm just calling to laugh I never want to talk to Maul so I'll call him and I'll start laughing so that means Maul starts laughing yeah that's how that goes

and now he's just laughing at you he don't even know but anyway I call Maul I say yeah Maul I hate Rory when famous niggas are involved.

How involved are they usually? I don't be around famous people. Because I just talked to Rory. Rory just called me and I talked to him. Now mind you, we had an old, confused plan. My son was trying to go to Drake's concert. Rory was trying to go to Drake's concert. Rory just seen Drake

at the concert because Drake recorded Rory at the concert, sent it to me. I asked to go to Drake concert. Rory was trying to go to Drake concert. Rory just seen Drake at the concert because Drake recorded Rory at the concert, sent it to me. I asked to go to the concert. Then you in OVO, so you was going to the concert. No, we had a lot of wild shit going on. It was an interesting project. So let me say that to shoot my nigga Rory some bail. Now let me get to the jokes. So I says, yo, I hate when Rory's around like famous people.

I'm like, what you mean, Rory, man? Cool. I say, Rory just called me. And he was like, yo, I don't know what you're doing tonight, but I spoke to Drizzy already. I did not say anything. First of all,

saying I spoke to Drizzy. I bet you could change the phrase. Rory, can I go for the joke? Don't ever call him Drizzy. He said Drizzy. I was like,

what the fuck? I spoke to the boy. Yes, yes, yes. That's worse. Yo, Rory called and said, yo, I don't know what you're what the fuck? I spoke to the boy. Yes, yes, yes. That's worse. Yo, Rory called and said, yo, I don't know what you're doing tonight, but I spoke to the boy. Oh my God. Okay.

Put me down plus two. But listen to me, you and Maul, not the two. Yeah, because Rory definitely hit me with the, because I was like, yeah, I don't know if I'm going to go. No, no, wait. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. So yeah, Rory say Yo

The boy The boy put me down Plus two But I'm taking Lowe and Chris Not you and Maul Y'all not the two Yeah So then Maul was like

Yo it's funny That you say that I'm telling now Tell him now Yeah cause Then I hear Rory Because he was Well when I had called him

Initially he was going into the tunnel. So we couldn't talk right then and there. So when he called me back. I really was though. When he called me back. Oh, and you was going in the tunnel. Come on, Rory.

I was on a train. Yeah. So when he called me back, I was like, yo, are you going to the show? And Rory goes, yeah, but yo, I mean, I'm taking Chris. I only got one or two extra tickets. I was getting somewhere with that. No, no, I know. I know.

But it was just funny coming off of what Joe said because I was like, yeah, because I was calling him because before me and Rory had spoken at that moment, Rory was saying that he didn't know if he was going to go yet because he didn't get any word back yet. That's the classic move. So I was calling him because I had my tickets. I wouldn't take more than either nigga yeah but I was

I was only calling it back because I was letting him know like fam I got tickets now if you didn't hear back yet you can have one of these tickets Rory got right in the shit

yo Maul listen we still friends yeah yeah Rory got it to that but I was like fam I was calling it to see if you were okay like I'm alright

I don't know if I'm going anymore you know what I mean yeah so here's the context I don't know if I'm going anymore. You know what I mean? Hold on. Here's the context. I don't know if I'm going anymore. Here's the context. I called Joe because I knew Joe was not going to go, and he had extra tickets. So I was saying, yo, can you give Maul that other ticket?

Don't you hate them friends? I want to decide for you. I know Joe's not going to go. You told me that day that you weren't going to go. I might have wanted to see the boy. Stop saying that. What? Drake, you wanted to going to get no shit, nigga. You told me that day that you weren't. I might have wanted to see the boy. Stop saying that. What? Please.

Drake, you wanted to go to the Drake concert. No, I was home, nigga. That was y'all. That was y'all. Because of all the discussion. Out there singing along to Hate Sleepin' Alone like losers. He didn't do that record. I was mad.

But anyway. Listen, because of our conversations and our group chat, I was trying to get everyone to get a ticket so we could all go as a family. No, Roryory i get it but it was just funny coming off of what joe was saying because i was like yeah i just called him to make sure he was good but he was telling me that i wasn't good if i needed to be good with him because he was like nah your tickets already gone man i'm like my nigga i'm just calling to make sure you all right but we all everybody's good and go have a good time everybody was everybody was more than good yeah no that's not true because my son almost couldn't get in.

I don't know why I learned at the Drake concert that my son doesn't have identification. I learned that too at the gate, at Will Call. You don't have an ID? I called Drake to leave tickets. And came at me fly. When I was like,

yo, Trey, you ain't got no ID? He said, no. He said, Drake got me. I'm good. I said, oh shit. I don't know what's got. I said, Drake, what you doing? I don't know. I'm not sure what's gotten into people.

I was like, so. In my mind, I'm like, Drake must think Drake is going to come from the dressing room. Meet him on 34th. Come to 34th Street outside and give him some tickets. This is how I knew something was wrong with Trey. Like, these niggas, I don't know what's going on. Trey posted a pic.

He was backstage, I guess't know what's going on. Trey posted a pic. He was backstage, I guess after the Trey concert. It was him in French, but he scribbled out his face. He scribbled out his own face? Maybe he closed his eyes. No. He did the white scribble

over his face like doing the whole Teenager Mysterious. I don't want you to see me, but I'm with famous people he took the picture with French yes and screwed without his own face

yes that's gangsta I don't want you niggas looking at me I felt bad I thought I took a shitty photo look at French I hit Trey and say

yo my fault was that a shitty photo Rory are you backstage parading my son around drunken events we was definitely backstage with Trey no more you intoxicated you and Trey around the boy yo listen I was leaving Parading my son around Drunken events We was definitely backstage With Trey

No more you You and Trey around the boy Yo listen I was leaving First of all Did I not put Trey in an Uber And make sure he got home safe I was wondering why

Rory was texting me Trey's Uber I'm about to tell you Because you know me I don't I didn't even want to go To the little after party Backstage thing

But I was like fuck it Like this is the way we walk And we'll go for a second I reached my limit Ten minutes I was like all right i'm out of here but i could tell trey wasn't ready to leave yet he was still having fun that son is 17 yeah but that's when that's exciting for you so i was like i'm not gonna say trey let's go it's time to go home so rory was like no i got him like let him chill so i went i told trey i said yo you good where we got you he's like all right cool cool he's sitting down in the cut two girls sitting in the room

I said okay look at Trey alright he was in his little bag his butt bag he got a bag he was in his button bag he was in his button bag

for sure trying to look cool trying to look mysterious in the corner that's what y'all think I be doing that's what you be doing that's not what I think

you be doing that's you that's why y'all think I get girls yes I sit in the corner of my phone and wait for them

to say something? Yes. No. That's exactly what you do. You got to get in their vicinity. Yeah. Just get in their eye contact, in their vision. Yeah, it can't be on your phone far away from them because then they won't see you.

Yeah. Especially back there, it was dark and shit. Trey was like, let them know. Yo, niggas brains is sick if you just really get into A guy's brain Yeah so that's why I've done some real sick shit before That's why I left Trey with Rory I knew he was in good hands

Actually yeah Got him a jacket That's the line Wait a minute When niggas say Yo Yo how right damn Yo if I get that

I'ma chill Yeah that's me and then never chill the chill never happens I ain't never chill never but every nigga has said that

I've said that and then maybe when a nigga say they chill for a year you know how many times I was out the game

if I get that one if I get home out the game I'm still in the game you ever said that you got that one and you're still in the game yeah

I've said it and meant it and said it and not meant it. Okay. I'm trying to figure out what it means when a man says that to himself. Does it mean that we're attempting to court a woman who's better than us? If we say if I get her? Yeah. Then I'm going to chill. Like, what is it that makes us?

She's a girl that you might really like. She's out your bag a little bit. Not even out the league just you're willing to change your ways for her yeah I'm about to say every time I said that

it was a chick I didn't know I never spoke to her she could have been trash yeah actually actually some of them turned out to be rather trash no

any chick that you said if I get her I'ma chill they trash all of them you think so? every last one every last one every last one every last one that you looked at and said if i get her i'ma chill she's trash it's usually the

thing about it it's usually the stat that you're saying that for like a chick that's you know i mean oh well what if you see a girl that you really like you she's a good girl you know you got her resume you know she's a good girl it's like you're like damn if i could get her like i'll settle down with that i'm done i'm not i'm not looking for no i'm not out here fucking around it's some it's some out there that feeling passes damn you guys i'm you y'all my relationship guys i come to y'all for that for the positivity yeah like y'all y'all not giving me the positivity in that oh that's a mistake you shouldn't come to us for relationship stuff oh fuck okay well you should go to somebody that's not true yeah i'm trying to y'all giving me shit right now like

y'all both look confused in your relationships i'm off of you we're men more thanks for letting me there's no other feeling you can have okay let's see more important stuff happened what else important happened do y'all want to address Power now? Yeah, let's get started. That seems to be a really big thing. I see a lot of people really, really sad. I think Power has maybe one more season. I think it's at the end of its course.

It's over. It's over. That's what y'all think that means? It's over. That's absolutely what that means. I've been saying that too. I think they remixed the script. I think they was filming that shit

two weeks ago those last the last episodes yes it's not even cold outside Rory it's a TV show leather's on and shit

nah man that shit was filmed already it's called acting no that shit was filmed I'm just what I hate is everything it seems

it seems rushed like they're not I mean Dre went from private school kid who lost his sister to selling drugs at school and pulling the strap out on some kids on the block that gave him fake money in a matter of a week. Yo, Stars wants nothing to do with power or 50 or Courtney Kemp. I'm going to just go ahead and say it. Yeah, I think that's running scores. They cannot wait to get out of that contract.

It's running scores. They've shown every sign that they don't want to be in business with them. 50 on Instagram said his next project is the BMF shit. I think that's going to be a huge hit. Is that on Starz, though? I hope so. I doubt it. You know what the funny shit is about that last episode of Power?

It really wasn't a bad episode. It's just that now it's stamped like, okay, we see where it's going. This shit is about that last episode of power it really wasn't a bad episode it's just that it's just that now it's stamped like okay we see where it's going like this shit is over it's over for the last three seasons and y'all can rewind or whatever episode that was i said before this shit premiered this season they're gonna do what they normally do which is drag me for seven episodes yeah and at eight make it lit and that's not gonna to be enough for me. I also said they're going to probably try to kill somebody and make it, listen, they killed 50, cool. We can see they about to kill

Proctor. I'm not compelled. I remember the first two seasons of Power when that shit went off the air. I was like, damn, we got to wait a whole summer. We got to wait till next summer. Remember that? That feeling has evaporated. That feeling is long, long, long, long, long gone.

And then I didn't even feel how they killed him. Well. Oh, shut up. Shut up. Shut up. No, no. Here's the thing. I do understand why it went like that.

Only because that was his stance. Like, no, I ain't going back. Like, that was always his thing. Like, I'm not ain't going back. Like, that was always his thing. Like, I'm not going back to jail. So I understand how they incorporated that. That was a poor police shootout by any police shootout standard. On your top 50 police shootouts on YouTube?

What is that on your top, again? Pick any police shootout, Maul, and that was a poor one yeah when he when he almost died the other two times he almost died it was way better than when he died yeah i can see that the fire the fire was definitely like i thought and they knew that which is why they had to show him to us in the morgue like no we're not for real he dead now that's him they still don't know they crying no he's dead and now courtney watch there's an interview floating around where courtney kemp is talking about just the evolution of tariq uh ghost's son his name is

tariq right yeah i said trey yeah tariq um and talking about how tarq, the evolution of the show is Tariq turning into his father. Genes are genes. You know, they're strong. So he's got Tommy's his godfather, Ghost is his father, Shorty's his mom. How else should he turn out? So it looks like they're trying to write the story into a way where he develops into a ghost and they deal with that. Which is, listen, I'm not mad at that premise. I just don't want to see it from the writers from that writing team that y'all have on display and let me not insult

let me not insult them maybe it's their collaborative maybe it's they're hindered from the network somehow but all that's trash my nigga like i don't care nothing about none of that shit y'all have taken away one of the only people to give credibility to your show like even some of the girls they used to really love the ghost sex scenes they don't really fuck with ghosts no more damn honestly honestly all the chicks that i know they love street niggas anytime i was with them in a ghost sex scene pop up oh boy they was horny i talked about that in this podcast now they're like Tommy the real one anyway this nigga's a rat he's a like they're not feeling ghosts and Tommy couldn't wait for Mello to get traded to get back with Lala that's crazy he couldn't wait as soon as Mello got traded he started fucking with Lala

again that's true right or wrong that's true I'm the only nigga that peeped that he did it with the sympathy shit that's always I never looked at it that way But you're right Yeah Like soon as Mello's like Yo You back at La La Door Come on man It's over for Mello Yo if Snowfall didn't have commercials

Power would've been over with man I ain't seen Snowfall I haven't started Snowfall this season Oh man Oh man This season Oh man But I hear the character development

With Frank is something else. Oh, my God. Great show. It is Frank Wright, the dude. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear that character development

is sick. I know y'all are not big on... Y'all are not big on the center. I just watched the first season. God damn. The center? The first season was dope. I'm hearing that.

I got to start that. I'm hearing that. Did y'all see the Sharp Objects shit? Someone else told me about that. Somebody told me about that. Somebody told me about a show called Castle Rock. I think that was. They told me about a show called Castle Rock.

But yeah, this season at the center, they are wild. Last season, I liked it a lot. I just really didn't like how they ended. This season season they are bugging the fuck out I'm glued to that shit this season is snowfall you gotta start it how many episodes are there? I think we're going to 8 or 9 now

that's why I love fall and September we about to get into all of the great shows coming back schools coming back I can smell a pumpkin spice latte already can you smell it Joe? I can smell a pumpkin spice latte already. Can you smell it, Joe?

Joe definitely likes the pumpkin spice. Absolutely. Probably tries to make his own at home. He has a pumpkin spice latte maker. Got a pumpkin patch in his backyard. Do you have a pumpkin patch in your backyard? No, I'm not. Oh, okay. And no, I'm not a pumpkin spice latte guy.

Oh, okay. Actually, I'm not any type of latte guy. I don't even like Starbucks. Your hat selection would say otherwise. You have Uggs. I have Uggs slippers. They're the best slippers ever. Some would say a pumpkin spice latte is the best drink.

Listen, Pars can't say nothing to me. Then they got one plantain on the top of his fridge. Yeah, that's kind of sick. It's the last platador. If I walk into somebody else And they got one plantain Just one Yeah I'm gonna be like Fam what's going on here

When you ever walk into my house And they had just one of those Sitting there That's like one banana One banana One apple You like fam Sharing his

Them shits is like Ten four dollar fam Why you only got one He ain't sharing his plantains It's like a nigga Having one grape In a bowl in the fridge Nah it's not like Having one grape Why this one grape in a bowl in the fridge nah it's not like

having one grape why this one grape in this bowl don't touch that shit oh man I was about to say you ever get to the last grape like

nobody's ever got to the last grape the last grape is always like the mischievous nasty grape or the little one the one that never made it

you ain't never eat grapes with a girl and like start getting to the last little few like what's your strategy in that moment do you eat more do you eat faster yeah You ain't never eat grapes with a girl and start getting to the last little few. What's your strategy in that moment? Do you eat more?

Do you eat faster? Yeah. You start counting how many you can hold and grab it one time. Put them shits to the side. Six left, four is in my palm right now. Stuff your cheeks. Hell yeah. All right, you niggas. You can have two.

You niggas is nasty. Wait, there's something else really important that we had to talk about. Did you see Cisco did thong song at his wedding? Why did you see that? I saw it on the timeline. That wasn't exactly what I was referring to. That was the important thing. I was kind of wondering, like, at your wedding?

Yo, one day we got to sit down and we got to- I told you, I'm not performing at my wedding. Oh, you're not performing? I said that when Pusha T performed it. Yeah, Joe didn't want to perform at his performances. Or at Ducey Palooza. I ain't gonna lie. They did Fire too.

They came to Fire and he wouldn't even get up there. One day we got to sit down and make a list of all the quote unquote dope R&B songs that didn't age that well. You about to

you dissing those people right now? No, not the thongs. I'm just saying there's a lot of records that we thought was like when they came out and if you listen to them now

you'd be like yo these niggas was talking about some bullshit it's a lot a lot of it's a lot i'm telling you it's a lot you'd be like that ain't even realistic like what are you talking about like what are you talking about but back then it was like yo when this come on you should try to set the mood in the crib to some bullshit ass lyrics man oh yeah no that's true i'm just i'm trying. When I listen to a lot of old R&B, what I hear, well, what I always hear,

but I notice a lot more Dirty Mack in Today when I listen to the old R&B. Oh, this is the, oh God, Today? No, I'm talking about the old R&B, but when I listen to it today, like... Today's R&B is way more Dirty Mack than... No way, no way, no way, no way. I think it's pretty consistent.

Hell no. These R&B, this is not even R&B anymore. The Dirty Mackin' than... No way, no way, no way, no way. I think it's pretty consistent. Hell no. These R&B, it's not even R&B anymore. The shit that these niggas is doing is crazy. It's crazy. Nah, you couldn't be more wrong. Fam, R&B was about Dirty Mackin' for 40 years from Elvis. It's always been Elvis. Listen, Donnell Jones, Where I Wanna Be,

go back and really listen to those lyrics. Like, really listen to those lyrics. I listen to that album still. That song in particular, because that was the one. Listen to it. I mean, he wasn't really Dirty Mackin'. When you love someone, you don't... No, he was Dirty Mackin', but that proves my point.

Not to a huge degree. Did you see that video? More, you arguing my point. He showed up at the date outside the restaurant. Could have been a coincidence. He was yelling through the glass. Like, if I'm homeboy, I'm getting up and I'm popping on that nigga. Yo, my man, check this

out. You had your shot, my nigga. But they was all together for the kids, bro. All this yelling outside the window while I'm trying to order the angel hair and all that. You got to bounce, homie. Like, straight up. You got to leave. But Mo, you're proving my point. You're naming old R&B. No, but I'm saying today's R&B is way more dirty and mackin trap soul was just one long dirty mack

dirty mack and today it's almost okay to dirty you know i have a whole different theory it's just less love songs today i feel like them niggas dirty mack the dirty mack today them niggas be shitting on themselves They don't even diss another nigga The whole trap soul He's saying Yo I ain't shit I don't know why she's with me Like

But give me another chance Yo I never had great self esteem Like The whole shit He was killing himself Nah don't is a super Yo I'm not the funniest of guys Like

Yo I was broke Like All of these All of'm not the funniest of guys. Yo, I was broke. Like, all of these- I'm not the funniest of guys. Yo, all of these party, all of these niggas now will come out and tell you all of their defects. They're not even shitting on another man.

That's true. Joe, they're seeing them? Nah, whoever you was with was getting bars. Jagged Edge, Mario, he's another one. Oh, wait, so Mario. That might be the number one.

I'm glad you said that. Mario and Homeboy. Mario, Sammy, and Amarion. All three of them today are shirtless and singing, crooning on Instagram. Well, Amarion. Acapella. No, Amarion's been shirtless his whole career. I don't give a fuck.

Since B2K, he's been shirtless. I'm going to stop shooting these niggas bail. Now he had his shirt on Love & Hip Hop. He's been shirtless since we met him. No, he put his shirt on Love & Hip Hop. He had his shirt on for our collaboration. Don't try to paint him as shirtless this whole time, nigga. He had his shirt on with me.

Nah, he mailed that shit in, bro. Dumb niggas are shirtless on Instagram. He went to the him in shirtless this whole time, nigga. He had his shirt on with me. Nah, he mailed that shit in, bro. Dumb niggas are shirtless on Instagram. He went to the post office shirtless. Yeah, he might have been shirtless on that one. That was a little soft record. But I feel like nobody has sent the three of these gentlemen the memo. And listen, they all look great, man. They look great.

Well, that's what it is. You know, you're working out. Well, no, Amarion Chick left him, so that's why he look great. All niggas, when your chick bounce, you were like, no, I'm in the gym. Absolutely. Trying to stay focused. We don't ever hit the gym for that long. So, yeah, that's why Amarion looked great.

Sammy disappeared for 20 years, and Mario always got to pop back up in five years with a whole new brand. I was just going to ask if you follow Sammy on Instagram. I don't, but people keep telling me, yo, check out that Sammy. No, because he actually put it. What people told you that? Show me people keep telling me, yo, check out that Sammy. No, because he actually put it. What people told you that? Show me the nigga that's telling you to check out that Sammy. He put a good album. I'm going to fight that nigga for you.

Keep him out the circle. Yeah, he put a pretty good album out. No, I'm not. Sammy's talented. No, no, no, we're not talking about that. So, niggas know we R&B heads, so they try to put you on to some shit sometimes. But these three gentlemen just didn't get the memo that R&B has so they try to put you on to some shit sometimes but they just these three gentlemen just didn't get the memo that R&B has changed

a little bit and now we like our R&B niggas to be just really really ugly the ugly wave's been in though

why are they still trying to look good R&B? no Mario and Amarion and Sammy like they got six packs yeah but they trying to let you know nobody in R&B? No, Mario and Amarion and Sammy. They got six-packs. Yeah, but they trying to let you know.

Nobody in R&B needs a six-pack today. You don't need that. You don't need it. Six-packs is overrated. That whole era is over where you had to look good, man. Take a pill and sing bad. And as a light-skinned nigga. Bring the drugs to the party.

Yes. That's it. As a light-skinned nigga, Bring the drugs to the party. Yes. That's it. As a light-skinned nigga, I'm super glad that era is over because we had to deal with being insecure when they was calling us pretty boys. Like, that era.

And I never understood that because I know some ugly light-skinned niggas. That's why I never understood, yo, light-skinned, you pretty boy. I know some light-skinned niggas. You like, yo, ain't nothing pretty boy about this nigga. Wait, time out, time out.

But all light-skinned niggas wasn't supposed to be pretty boys. That wasn't just a light-skinned niggas. You like, yo, ain't nothing pretty boy about this nigga. Wait, time out, time out. But all light-skinned niggas wasn't supposed to be pretty boys. That wasn't just a light-skinned thing. Oh, well, you said that was the stigma with light-skinned people. A lot of light-skinned niggas because of that whole

I'll be sure hour and niggas was trying to be cute and bitches was liking it for a little bit. I'll be sure. But it's funny. Niggas was getting compliments and that added to their fucking insecurity. Like, nigga, that pretty boy shit was like fighting words. But it's funny. Niggas was getting compliments, and that added to their fucking insecurity.

Like, nigga, that pretty boy shit was like fighting words. Yeah, it was. You can't call a nigga pretty boy, even if he's pretty. And now you got to prove he can fight. Yeah. Exactly. I just want Mario and these niggas to know that you don't have to live like that. Like, R&B has changed.

Go to Five Guys, bro. Get a burger. Get some pizza. Go enjoy your life. Nah, man. Niggas is in the gym. Go have a Budweiser, bro. Get a burger. Get some pizza. Go enjoy your life. Nah, man. Niggas is in the gym. Go have a Budweiser, bro. They level up.

They glow up. So let's stay on R&B for a little bit. Bryson is still killing. Yeah. Still. He's coming. And I don't have too much to add to it, but he leaked three songs on SoundCloud. Y'all know when Bryson getting his SoundCloud bag.

It's a little different. Some shit is coming. When he started just dropping the SoundClouds. SoundCloud Tiller. When RCA ain't involved, really? He just had enough? Yeah. I love when R&B acts rebel.

Oh, oh. When R&B acts rebel, it's like, we're going to get some great shit. He's sick of his label. Hasn't spoken to the president in three weeks He don't know what's going on with the lead single Fuck it, leak He was depressed his last album Leak He shook all that shit off of him, y'all

Right He redid the leaning joint from Tory's EP,ry and party leaning i've played it here because i like that record and nobody talks about it he redid that so it's him and tory now he killed it he flipped one of scissor's joints when r&b niggas get mad they start flipping other r&b niggas that's like that's like rapping on someone else's beat yeah yeah give me that one that one's the one I want to express myself over Like they did

Give me his words To how she felt Yeah What happened to him? I meant to ask you that Like the other day When we was in the group chat What happened?

Her Okay well what happened to the young guy That was acting as him? I think he's still making music He still texts me Oh Joe Nevermind man Cause that shit about to go somewhere else Nevermind He still texts me? Oh. Joe.

Never mind, man. Because that shit about to go somewhere else. Never mind. I'm not going to even play that game with you right now. He's due. All right, all right. And he dropped a project recently.

Did he? Yeah. And this was the first project I didn't hear. None of her shit. It was all him. I was like, too late for that one, buddy.

Should have done this a year ago. Should have took off now. Got to be careful where you're at. I got to check it out. No, you do have to check it out. You have done this a year ago. Should have took off now. Gotta be careful where you're at. I gotta check it out. No, you do have to check it out. You do have to check it out. And shout out to him.

No, he's good. He's good for what he tells me. He's a good dude. Speaking of her and the Drake concert, I felt really bad for her because she has to keep that image up.

Her had to watch a two-hour show with sunglasses on in the dark. Just for her image. I felt so bad. The thing is, i think now she doesn't even have to do that like i feel like she could have been at the concert nobody would even

know who it was she's being extra now yeah because when she's on the stage i understand you're amazing now we all know yeah but my thing is take the glasses off and enjoy the show yeah but my thing is she doesn't have to be in a stadium or gabby we know it's you yeah like you don't have to be doing that with, like, glasses on. You can stop. We've seen you. Yeah. We Googled.

We love the rebrand, by the way. Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, great rebrand. One of the greatest rebrands. So, yeah, Bryson is still killing. What else is happening in R&B world? I saw a picture of Rihanna in the studio. I'm hype.

That's enough for me, bitch. That's the album of the year. That's it. That's it. If y'all think I ain't here to stand, y's enough for me, bitch. That's the album of the year. That's it. That's it. If y'all think I ain't here to stand, y'all got me fucked up. It's coming. Young Navy? Yes. Super. Yes. Whatever she doing. Are you a lieutenant in the Navy? I'm purchasing.

I'm buying. I'm buying. You know what? I was trying to figure out how I got in the Navy because I hate people that's in cliques. I hate people that's like that. I hate people that just aren't themselves unless they're in a clique. That's why I always make fun of Rory with his little dancing gang. Dancing gang.

But Rihanna. You was just twerking on our promo saying you ain't fucking with my clique. Click. Click. Click. Click. Rihanna, I was trying to figure out why I love her so much. It's that rebel shit.

It's that part of her. Her attitude adds a lot to her. It's that. God. That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah, she doesn't give a fuck. The music is great, but.

It's everything. It's everything. That ties into her sex appeal, too. It's her attitude and how she carries herself. And also the fact that she's very sexy That as well Chicks don't know that The real sexy chicks

Is the chicks that's sexy And just ignore it Well without trying I don't think Rihanna She doesn't try to be sexy When she tries She succeeds though Oh yeah because she's

I mean you know She's rihanna but you can tell she's she doesn't really try but we need to get into that that error it's too many chicks now like you chicks just won't take pictures flat-footed none of you i ain't think i might have seen a dude doing that i might have seen a dude with his heel up i'm telling, you ain't see that, man. I'm telling you. I'm like, yo, why is no one flat-footed but me looking away?

Maybe it was leg day and he was trying to show off some definition. Yo, listen, any... I'm serious. Y'all laughing. Any dude taking a picture standing on his toes,

man, listen, man. He needs nuts. But why the chicks won't just chill? Why they still trying to push this... Oh, man. You know what?

But you got to be careful what you ask for. So let me not say that. Because on the flip side of that, Cardi's got personality really in now, right? So I see a bunch of chicks trying to have personality. And boy, is that bad. Yeah, the ratchet. It's bad. That's an amazing point.

Chicks are really trying to have personality yeah yo I don't has anybody noticed I don't know I don't know

if people have noticed I haven't just noticed that I haven't been noticed that no but now there's like personality rollouts yeah

they're like they got the little comedy video no the IG chicks it's ran its course this many years they gotta do something different

like we was talking about have you noticed the photography rebrand all these chicks are becoming photographers now that's true yeah

some of the bitches take good pics too and I think it might be Raven's fault because now they think they can meet Beyonce if they're good at photography yeah

that is true I'm gonna shout out Robin Robin in Miami who's been taking a lot of these pics for years and years and years and years

like it's some of these chicks that really do this shit like this hype beat shit affects so many industries and professions, right? Because how does somebody like Robin or Ravy look at the chicks

that are just grabbing a camera for the moment? Because they got 500,000 followers. The real DJ chicks, how do they look at the chicks that's trying to DJ for the moment? You know what I mean?

But you got to know it's not going to let, the cream will rise to be corny Yeah it always It always comes back It pans itself out The work

The talent The talent is gonna Always prevail Oh I'm so glad That y'all That we brought This conversation up It reminds me of some

Things I wanted to talk about So now let me try to find They changed Instagram So now I don't even know Where you find All the shit That you saved Alright

Found it And I'm not I just think This is a cool segue I'm not saying you find all the shit that you saved. Alright. Found it. And I'm not, I just think this is a cool segue. I'm not saying that this person is trying to showcase personality. 22. But Malaya. Uh-huh.

I just want to read an excerpt from Malaya. Malaya, the dancer. The adult dancer. Okay. Adult entertainer. She does adult dance. She's multifaceted.

It's not just dancing. She's mature. Okay. Adult entertainment just sounds like. I don't know. And I don't know that she still does that. I don't know. But that's what we know her from.

That's where she's most... Niggas never really stop to think about what their favorite strippers are doing now, right? Just throughout the years. That was an old song that Drake said that shit is. That was a while ago. I think one of my favorite strippers is rapping. I'd be one.

Now that I think about it. I'm dead serious. You manager? Y'all laugh when I'm trying to be serious. I'm dead serious. You asked the question and I think about it I'm dead serious You manager? Y'all be Yo y'all laugh When I'm trying to be serious I'm dead serious You asked a question And I thought about it

I think my My old favorite stripper Is a rapper now We like Cardi B too man Nevermind Nevermind Cause y'all think Everything's a joke

But I'm trying to be serious Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo

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Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo, now, you've been loving Naya. So, I'm not going to listen.

Oh, boy. Yo, Maul got wild affinities. What you talking about? What affinities does Maul have? But you raised a good point, though, because while Cindy talking about her studio sessions, I'm here in my head like, I wonder if this is grounds to leave her. Yo, put an edit point no no no i'm saying i'm saying put an edit no but you don't need to all right let me continue my point of course i'm never leaving my wife my wife to be what i'm saying is wouldn't she be saying that though?

A career change? Two, three years in the relationship? Yeah. Like I'd be trying to put myself in regular nigga positions. You did the same thing. She got with a rapper. She got with a rapper. I don't know how attractive she is

to the podcast Joe Button. Well let me tell you something. If she's less attracted to this Joe Budden, her attractive skills are way... I'm just saying. She got to fix her attraction skills. A lot of women do, though.

No, wait. No, that's not fair. I was transitioning when her and I got rocking. You shot a video in the crib. Shut up. Part of my transition. No, boy, a regular nigga

should be mad if his girl just up and changed everything in a relationship. I don't care what y'all say. If I'm a regular nigga, I'm beefing over that one. It depends on how drastic the change would be, I guess.

Yeah, what it is. That's my point. My girl can't go from being a nurse to fucking rapping. That's my point. Yeah, no, we we gotta talk about this that sounds like a fire marketing plan

no it does not that sounds like we're about to be homeless in a minute damn I ain't gonna lie I wouldn't mind if my strippers was a little nursey

in the morning a little nursey a little nursey in the morning you're definitely a nasty old man now Joe wake up

I'm sick we'll be bored us years ago mad trash role play I'm sick Lil B warned us years ago Mad trash role play I'm sick I heard you Lil B warned us He did

I wasn't nasty old man Lil B was right Alright No listen Malaya Malaya says this You know It's always nuts When you start with a you know i added that i know that's why i

laughed she says you know she didn't say that go ahead all right i really been reading a lot and researching a lot of things as fast and just going to topics that my spirit directs me to. The universe. The spirit. The universe. The universe. Yo. I wonder what Maul's universe is saying right now. All right.

And just going to topics that my spirit directs me to. going to topics that my spirit directs me to yesterday i was researching the english language and the possibility of it being witchcraft and or black magic it's very interesting so while research the english language is really she said the english language wait how are we at the english language now because she said yesterday i was researching the english language and the possibility of it being witchcraft and or black magic it's very interesting she goes on to say the english language is really new and quite different from all the other languages around the whole world, you guys should really look into it. They got us really in a pickle.

Look, pickle. Wait, there's an actual pickle emoji? No, no, she said they got us really in a pickle. With a sad face. Damn. The simple things we say and write is working against us. And since we are extensions of the creator, our words have power. The universe.

Man, listen. Go check this out. Maybe that's why they say wise people don't say much. And the pen is mightier than the sword. IDK. She ended with the IDK? Yeah, and the thinking emoji. Because she's still thinking.

Maybe she's the actual stripper that was really telling the truth when she was stripping for tuition money. She came up short. I just want to know, which strand of weed did Malaya hit

before she opened up her Instagram account and posted that? That sounds like a sativa. I know a sativa talk. That was some salvia? Yeah. That's a sativa talk.

I'm drooling on myself. That's a sativa talk right there. I know a sativa talk. I'm drooling on myself. That's Sativa Talk right there. I know Sativa Talk. The English language is witchcraft. And or black magic. YouTube has people going nuts. Did she put the money toward the tuition? No.

No, just YouTube premium. Maybe she did. Stupid me was sitting there outside of my house. Well, even if she's right, we need the word. Cite your sources. That's how I knew something was wrong with me. Oh, my God, man. All right, I'm done with that and personality being in.

So here's a story that was real big. The whole fan rushing on stage with Hov and B. Every time a fan rushes on stage, people get like, you know, it's always a really big thing. Yeah. And it always seems to happen when Hov is on stage. Hov got to get some better security, man. Lil Mama got up there. No problem.

That wasn't Hov's security. That was the VMAs. Yeah. And that was probably the Atlanta, whatever venue that was. Oh my God, up there. No problem. That wasn't Hov's security. That was the VMAs. Yeah. And that was probably the Atlanta, whatever venue that was. Hov was the only nigga that looked mad in that picture. Alicia Keys still looked like

she was cool with it. Alicia Keys looked like she hadn't seen Lil Mama in a while and was happy about the situation. Yeah. Hov didn't want no parts of Lil Mama being on that stage. Well, he tapped it like three times.

Like, yo, get the fuck off the stage. She didn't move. No. She didn't get off the stage. She even did the arms cross at the end with them. Like, we killed this. She synchronized.

She synchronized with them. But, all right, so, but I would think that that's the, a Hov and Beyonce concert is the last place that I would rush on stage. I understand the power of the Beehive, but that's just dangerous.

That's really, really, really, really, really, really, really dangerous. I need fans to understand that. Like, Hov and B did a great, they're great people. So they didn't press charges. They didn't pummel you out. Who knew Beyonce's dancers was getting it in like that? Them bitches got hands. I just hope it works out That was some of the dudes too

The male dancers Some of them dudes got hands too Yeah but you know Beyonce We didn't hear anything From the dude that ran We didn't even see like Him getting escorted out Anything

Well he got on Facebook The next day And said he was tired Of hoes sneak dissing him So he had to do something About it I'm not making this up That's definitely a fake account had to do something about it. I'm not making this up. That's definitely a fake account.

I'm not making this up. That's obviously a fake account, man. Nah, it was his Facebook. I'm tired of Hov sneak dissing me. And he put up pictures of his face. And Hov do be sneak dissing me. And we said put his book out. He was tired of Hov up there

sneak dissing him the whole time. Fam, you shouldn't run on stage at any concert. No. Yeah. I'm pretty sure he still has a headache. I'm not getting beat up by a nigga in spandex. You okay? Yeah, you sleep on some of these ballet dancers.

The niggas is in shape, man. They can be in shape. They got to be pretty strong. No, no. They can be in shape. They got to be pretty strong. No, no. They doing dance clips and shit? No, they can be in shape, man. Okay. All right.

All right, well, you know what? You should run up on the next Hope Show. Let's test out the theory. No, we can go right downtown. Let's go to Alvin Ailey one day. Let's film it. Let's film the podcast with Alvin Ailey when he took that fly shit.

Go ahead, Joe. He right there in his leotard. Go ahead. I just hope the shit works out for the dancers because Young Buck

never got a Dre beat after he stabbed you. Oh my God. The shows I be at, I can run on stage. Ain't nobody care if you... Because you be at

Ducey Palooza, that's it. You at SOB's. My old boy said that last night, like, yo, I definitely could've ran on that stage and punched Drake in the head tonight. I was like, fam, here, if you had SOBs. My own boy said that last night. Like, yo, I definitely could have ran on that stage and punched Drake in the head tonight. I said, fam, listen, by the time you would have got with that first barricade, that plan would have went wrong. Quick. Run on stage to do what?

Right. I just want to know what the plan is. No, he wasn't saying he would. He was just saying, looking at it, it looked like security wasn't. But what's the plan once we get there? I'm not talking about your friend. I'm talking... Come on, in general.

You would have a friend, and that would be what y'all talk about. But I'm talking about to the nigga that actually runs on stage. Like, you don't think this whole thing through? Like, what is the next step? What if you get to them? Something tells me that those type of people

don't think things through. Yeah, they're not thinking. That's the first thing, Joe. These are not smart, bright people that are doing this. These are just people that are just spontaneous in the moment, stupid.

Because that's just a stupid thing to do. Well, it kind of went down because people used to parachute onto baseball fields and shit. Now they just got idiots running off.

And boxing rings. That was an idiot that did that. Yeah, that's a bad place to try to... Was that Tyson and Holyfield? That is the last fight I would want to parachute into. That was a Tyson that did that. Yeah, it's a bad place to try to... Was that Tyson and Holyfield? That is the last fight I would want to parachute into. That was a Tyson fight, yeah.

Fam, that's a brave dude. Hell yeah. It was a Holyfield. I don't know if it was Tyson. I think it was Tyson and Holyfield. Part two. The second one, I think. I've seen enough docs.

I've seen it enough. Do you guys care about Odell getting paid? Finally, as a Giants fan, I'm going to go ahead and give it up. I'm going to go ahead and hit the applause button. Oh, shit. That was a lot going on there. That was not applause. Weren't you one of the people that wanted him out of New York, though?

Probably. Yeah. New York fans always want everyone out of New York. That's a fact. I did want him out of New York. Take him and take, hold on, one week maybe. I'm one of the people that was afraid of him

on the boat with the whole crew before the playoff game with him in the hotel room with the stripper, with the coke, with him at the crib, with the white girls.

I was one of the people that was concerned about that stuff when you pay somebody that amount of money. I don't have to say, I don't need to say all the shit that Steve and A.

He's getting better strippers and better coke. Grow up, Joe. That's mad standard. So I was just saying, if you could trade him and get two or three first rounds, then as a Giant fan, I'd have to entertain that. You're not getting that, so. Well, that's because we're not willing to trade him. But if we were, we would definitely get two first rounds,

the same way that the Raiders can get two first rounds for Khalil Mack, the same way the Rams can get two first rounds for us Darnold yeah but those deals never happen NFL deals be terrible well now you're giving 95 million so word you know what's funny that's him underpaid I'll be honest for five years I thought I didn't think it was crazy the way that's not a large number for five years for five years as a superstar you're the only superstar basically on that team at this point. Yeah. No, I'm not saying that.

Well, Eli. He's the biggest superstar. Shit, I was talking about Zayquan. Yeah, but that remains to be seen. He hasn't played a game yet. He don't have to. No, he does, though. No, he don't.

No, he don't. Sometimes you could just tell. There's some people you could just tell it with. Like, he has that advertisement media darling shit. He's running around acting like a quarterback there's a reason for it right you ever hear him talk if you just listen and watch Saquon he is conducting himself like a quarterback Odell last year saying I want to be the highest paid nigga these niggas are indeed trying to change the market for their respective positions

I get the money like yeah I'm not mad at him but, I believe that Saquon in a few years is going to be in that same boat. Landon Collins, they got to pay him. They got to pay him. I don't think he's a superstar with the whole box office thing that we're saying. But they have to pay him. My fantasy football team is trash. We're bad. You drafted Des Bryant.

And you drafted Deshaun Jackson. When I saw that shit on the timeline, I was like, maybe Joe has some insider info. He's about to get picked up somewhere. He doesn't. I tried to shoot you some bail with it. You had a couple picks. I was like, all right, that was solid.

The Rams defense. I was like, okay. Rams defense is good. That's good. Your kicker, I think, was really good. Savon, do you play fantasy football? really good Savon do you play fantasy football Erickson do you play

you don't do shit Erickson just film things yo you know what I realized you know what I realized about Erickson when we were doing all the Spotify shit you know we always have to

at the whole team and shit right I click Erickson's page I'm unfollowing Erickson he hasn't posted in three years uh yeah yeah you're getting unfollowed Erickson

yeah I'm gonna fire that nigga you gotta tweet you gotta be more active on the socials bro posted in three years. Yeah. Yeah, you're getting unfollowed, Erickson. Yeah, I'm going to fire that nigga. You got to tweet. You got to be more active on the socials, bro. Yeah, you got to tweet. Yeah. Across all socials.

Across all socials. Fuck, what were you just talking about? Oh, my fantasy. All right, so first of all, let me start, but I had the 11th pick. Which is a good pick.

In a 12-person draft. I hate that pick. I originally had the 12th pick. The 12th pick, I love. Let you get your back-to-back snake draft that pick. I originally had the 12th pick. The 12th pick I love. Let's you get your back-to-back snake draft thing on. Yeah, but you get 11. In this league, whoever had the first pick got to pick wherever they wanted to pick and so forth all the way on.

So, of course, whoever had the 11th pick wanted to pick 12th and not 11th. So I had the 11th pick. I think that's one of the worst picks in the draft. No, it's not. The 12th pick is popping. No, no, no. I'm saying that strategy of drafting. I think that's one of the worst picks in the draft. No, it's not. The 12th pick is popping. No, no, no. I'm saying that strategy of drafting. I've never even heard of that.

Yeah, no, that's an odd rule. That's an odd rule, but I like it. But I was in a weird spot. So here we go. It gets down to me. The best running back available. I have to choose between Melvin Gordon and Leonard Fournette. I'm taking Gordon this year.

Yeah, yeah. That's a toss-up. I think both would be year. Yeah. That's a toss up. That's going either way. That allowed the man behind me to take Frenette and Dalvin Cook, which was my plan. So when it got back to me,

the running backs left are J. Ajay. Yeah, Lamar Miller. It was a, yeah, Lamar Miller. It was a bad drop off. Right. And then on the receiver side, it was Julio Jones and some good, and Mike, the nigga from New Orleans that I like.

No, Michael Smith. I love him. Had to take one of them. Took one of them. First two picks. Right? Not too bad. The rest of the draft, all downhill. By the time it got back to me, 80 picks later, I might have picked the Rams defense.

I smoked three cigarettes by that point. No, because when you're in that spot, you got to pick ahead of where you should pick and guard against whoever else might pick the nigga you want later, but it won't get back to you. Yeah, it sucks. That's not as bad as six, though. Right in the middle is way worse than 11. At least you get to double down at 11.

Oh, yeah, I hate the middle. The middle is the worst. I hate the middle. But, yeah, I might have picked Jimmy Graham next. Oh, gosh. Oh, no, no, no, no. Next was my Kenyan Drake pick from Miami. Okay.

Yeah, he's going to have a good year. He had a great year last Okay. Yeah, he's going to have a good year. He had a great year last year. I think he's going to have a great year. Yeah. But I mean. Nah, he smoked it for me last year. That was like my best player. And then I had to reach on the tight end because it wasn't coming back to me.

And I took Jimmy Graham. But Kelsey was gone. And Ertz was gone. And Gronk was gone. So if I didn't pick a tight end then, the drop off from Jimmy Graham, after Jimmy Graham and Evan Egrams, the next nigga was like Charles Clay.

Chill. He had a good first half of the season last year. Fam, I've been picking him for nine years and he's always good for four points. He kicks a field goal. No, you stay hurt. That's the only problem. Yeah, I'm so sick

of Charles Clay. But anyway, I'm not proud of my team. I got a lot of potential on my team. I see what's going on. My bench is trash. But I'm always a way.

Your bye weeks are going to be tough. But I'm always a waiver wire thug. I work magic on that waiver wire. And my bye weeks that I have to look out for are week eight and 11.

That's when most of my team is out chilling i'll get it together man i just want to update you guys what monday monday and niggas be hyping me up about this live draft thing let me tell you you like it no why let me tell you why parks i like to draft in the comfort of my own home where I can really do my cerebral thing. I do, too. Look up some things. Get into my vibe. Do whatever I want to do at home.

Not really in a live draft with Kaiser screaming at me from across the room. Oh, yeah. Joe! You're fucking it! Would you hurry up and pick? I got Ja Rule sitting next to me using my computer because he didn't bring his. And he has picked 10. Ja Rule sitting next to me using my computer because he didn't bring his. So now Ja, and he has pick 10. Ja Rule has pick 10.

I have pick 11. Ja don't have his computer, so he's sitting next to me. Let me see what Joe, Joe got everything going. I'm like, yo, Ja, my nigga, you have to get the fuck away from my computer. Because now in my head, I'm like, yo, what if I end up playing Ja? So I'm already 9th to 12th pick. The nigga at the 12th pick is end up playing Ja so I'm already not the 12th pick the nigga at the 12th pick is stealing my whole strategy now the nigga with the 10th pick is Ja and if he's

stealing my whole strategy then I will never hear put it on me the same fam you and Ja drafted on the same computer it's fucking hilarious where was where Erickson where were you to film this y'all not really understanding what I'm saying holy shit that's hilarious.

So then, in my head, while Ja's doing all this dumb shit. So do you guys have separate browsers open? He had to use Firefox and use Chrome. No, he was using my shit. So you had to log out real quick. I would have said, Ja, get the fuck away from me. You can do it from your phone. But wait, this is what's funny.

Ja came in late, right? So I came in, and I don't really know how to do the CBS shit. So I went and spent like an hour and $60 buying the Inside Fantasy Team tracker. We will draft for you. So here I do all this shit. I'm trying to figure it out. Here comes Jai, walk right in and use my Inside Fantasy tracker. Jai, if you don't get the fuck from trying to figure it out. Here comes Jaw Walk writing and use my inside fantasy tracker. Jav, you don't get the fuck from

next to me, man. So then while he's picking, because I'm super nice. I ain't shit on him. So yeah, go ahead, Jaw. No, please, man. And he may put it on me, so. Without Joe's computer. Thank you, Roy. That's kind of what I'm getting at.

If Put It On Me is a fantasy football victory song, my nigga, then life changes. Well, now I think he's a liar because he said he was always on time. I'm putting the drums back in here for Rory's little

fucking joke. Gotta get the drums He said he was always on time. Shut up, Rory. Did he convince you to draft Des Bryant? I thought I'd be

in the Super Bowl. What round did you draft Des Bryant? That's a really good question. Do you know that he doesn't... He's not on a team, right?

And even when he was on a team last year... I drafted Des Bryant in round nine. If it was the last round, I would give him a nine or something like that. And at that point, I had taken all the bad running backs I was going to take. I had nine receivers on my team. You had Crowell already locked in. That's even worse than when people drafted Ray Rice just in case. All right, I'm done.

All right, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done because y'all not going to. I don't like the way Parks is talking to me. All right, let's get off of this football thing. I think we've covered everything. I don't think there is. Lil Wayne and Birdman.

What'd they do now? They made up. Oh, they did? Yeah. They did kiss. Again? Again, yes. Oh, they did? Yeah. They did kiss. Again? Again, yes. They kissed the cheek.

Oh, okay. Or the forehead, something. The forehead? Ew. Ew. Well, good for them, man. I'm glad to see that Birdman apologized. Did he?

Yeah, he said, I apologize. He didn't tell us. He didn't. Parks. Don't do that. I'm just wondering. Birdman has my phone number. Sorry, Birdman.

That was Parks. 917. Give you a Parks number? You can reach Parks at 917. Parks. Yeah, he didn't really say when he was a at 917. Parks. Yeah, he didn't really say what he was apologizing for.

917 Parks. He didn't really say what he was apologizing for. I don't think he apologized, unless it was in private. No, it was on stage more. He said, I apologize to Birdman in front of all of his fans. No. I mean, to Wayne. He didn't say, I apologize to Wayne.

I hope they made amends. He said, I want to apologize. I want to.. I want to. If I'm not mistaken, that's exactly what he said. I want to apologize. I would like to apologize. I'm going home. I'm ending this podcast.

I'm sorry. I fucked up. Shouldn't have did that. I didn't hear any of that. Do you have a sleeper pick this week? I have a sleeper pick every week. Roy, do you? I do.

Let's play them. No, I'm playing with you. He did say I want to apologize. But you know what he meant. I'm just saying. That was his way of, I always love when niggas that's not really in tune with their emotional side got to get emotional.

They never really know how to, I want to yo, meh. You know how it be. You know how it be sometimes. Yo, when you be feeling They definitely do this a lot too Niggas go to When they not in touch

With their emotions It's like Yo you know what it is Niggas will give you seven You know what it is You know what it is I be having no idea What it is

I still don't know What it is I be clueless They be clueless too Alright Ross seemed to be happy Ross gave it a retweet Which I think

He just said good Honorable That's what it was Yeah that's how Ross says Good Niggas that's not in touch With their emotions They say words like

That's honorable That's honorable Alright I'm gonna fuck out I don't think there's Nothing else here Yo we did not talk about Verb and move Y'all are crazy

I watched it last night I'm Hey battle rap community And I saw move last night Let me just say Yeah you saw Berg last night too You saw a lot Mixi man Saw Berg for like 10 minutes

Not even less than that Four minutes Yo no don't talk over my Okay he does Yeah Saw Berg for four minutes Told him I was coming by He hit me early No, no, don't talk over my... Okay, you done? Yeah. So, Berg, for four minutes. Told him I was coming by.

He hit me early, like, you'll come through. He's like, all right. Went late. I go upstairs. He's coming down. This is the next elevator. He's like, yeah, man, I want to go. Let's go try to catch a vibe.

You know, Berg always want... Let's go try to catch a vibe, man. You don't want to catch a vibe? No, I was like, come on, let's go, man. Yo, let me... Did he call you from the Uber like yo that shit close that too it's like 154 I'm like

dancey out that vibe let me be the one to tell you you new people out there cause that shit be sounding so good yo let's go

try to get your vibe like that shit sounds great sometimes niggas wanna get away from the vibes like sometimes no but I know what he meant he didn't wanna do nothing too crazy he just wanted to chill Sounds great. Sometimes niggas want to get away from the vibes.

Sometimes. No, but I know what he meant. He didn't want to do nothing too crazy. He just wanted to chill, get a couple drinks. Yeah, but that sounds like a vibe you need to run away from sometimes. And I had just came from Pergola, so I was like, let's go back there. So you just was at that vibe. Exactly. That's what I told him.

I was like, damn, I was just. So he was like, let's go back. Realized that she closed that too. I was like, it's over. Went to Pergola, show him I realized that she closed that too. I was like, it's over. Went to Pergola, show him that Spotify. I mean. No, I don't know what you mean. Just went to Pergola.

Nigga stomped in Pergola. Stomped in Pergola. Yo, Spotify boys. Drinks on me. Mook was definitely in there stomping. Mook sent me. Yo, every time I go to Pergola, I see Mook there. Yo, you saw the battle? He delivered Pergola. That's a nice spot. I should have lied to Mook was definitely in there stomping Mook sent me Yo every time I go to Pergola I see Mook there Yo you saw the battle

Mook delivered Pergola That's a nice spot I should have lied to Mook Yo you saw the Oh yeah Mook sent me about He mad at you Mook sent me 30 texts about

Why he won the battle Yeah He said he mad at you He told me He said Mattel Joe man Mad at him man But why What I will say is

When I watched it back Cause I watched it again, and Namook was up there wilding. He was wilding. I will give it to him. Looking at it last night, because I definitely watched it. He wild. I just think he lost.

I don't think he lost. I'm going to tell you why I don't think he lost. Because you saw him in Pergola. No. I don't think he lost because he was definitely saying better shit, but it just wasn't... Connecting the wave. Yeah. When you listen to what he was saying, he was saying way more intricate rap shit.

If you're talking about battle, who's putting better together? But Ver was just saying simple shit that the crowd was getting. A lot of shit Mook was saying the crowd didn't understand. And they was kind of getting into it, who tapping, who pushing, who... It was just all of that shit. That battle, they just are not meant to battle each other. Their styles are so different. No, Mook just lost.

It's okay. No, he didn't lose that. It's okay. He definitely said way better shit. To me, he said way better shit. You know what I'm like, man? Before that verb battle, Mook was on a 17-round win streak that whether we liked it or not, we all had to acknowledge because he just

won every round in the world he swept hot 16 whatever that nigga's name was 15 swept solomon 15 of those rounds lux so for verb to come that whole scheme where he said you had hot iron and lux and didn't kill nothing i mean no you had hot iron loaded you had hot iron loaded and didn't kill nothing? I mean, no, you had hot iron loaded. You had hot iron loaded and didn't kill. Come on, fam. Mook had a bunch of that, though. Nah, he didn't have a bunch of that. Yes, he did. Nah. He had a bunch of that. He had

a lot of shit, though. That whole the vegan done made a mistake. That was hard. Mook had a lot of shit he beat himself. Listen, sometimes the better rapper can lose. He didn't lose that. I don't think he did. He said way better shit.

It's just that it wasn't fit for that battle stage because it was going over everybody's heads. But when you sit back and really listen to what he was saying, it's like... It's still a loss. Nah. I don't count that as a loss. Because the audience is dumb, I don't count that as a loss. That is a loss. Well, I mean, you're catering to the audience is dumb, I don't count that as a loss. That is a loss. Well, I mean, you're catering to the audience.

It's a loss if there's, like, in the room, they're asking the people who do they think won. Then, yeah, you got to. But when you just, like, put it out for the people to let them judge it, to me, that's not a loss. And you know what? Let me say, I'm not mad at Maul for thinking that Maul won. Like, it's a close battle.

Like, because the rounds that you have, like, I give the battle to vert but a few of them rounds are close i mean like i'm not mad at nobody to say mook one round one or two every time he said some hot shit he kept yelling i was like what is he doing i didn't understand that i want to see people yelling no i don't i'm one of them to feel themselves yeah i'm not mad at that. Nah, you're not supposed to yell at your own.

That's what I'm saying. Like, ooh. That's what your friends are doing. Ooh. I'm like, what the fuck is he doing? Like, what is this new verb thing he's doing?

I didn't understand what that was. This new verb thing he's doing. Because it's a new verb up there. That's a new verb. I don't care what you say. That's definitely a new verb. Demi Lovato's

drug dealer is doing interviews. Excuse me? That's the most 2018 shit I've ever heard in my life. That's all I'm going to say. We don't have to talk about it's drug dealer is doing interviews excuse me that's the most 2018 shit I've ever heard in my life that's all I'm gonna say we don't have to talk about it but drug dealers doing interviews

is some really really new shit man that is crazy yeah it's a little wild Safari did some shit that I'm not gonna talk about Safari puts you

in a tough position Joe Safari said he got a million dollars for some shit that I'm just not gonna talk about cause as his friend you gotta go support him Safari said he got a million dollars for some shit that I'm just not going to talk about because as his friend you got to go support him

I don't know if I want to know yeah we're not going to talk about it don't even worry about it but you got to support your man hey we're going to mosey right along I'm ignoring Rory actually so we're going to get right to it's a tough spot to be in

I just want to see what you're going to do I'm ignoring you now we're going to get to Louis C.K. Louis C.K. did a surprise pop-up for unsuspecting fans who had no idea he was coming. It's a joke. There's a way. No, it's not somewhere.

It's there. It's right in front of us. Yo, we got sleepers? I'm not doing that with y'all. I was just Chris Pauling that one alley-oop to the rim. Slam it home. Like, whatever y'all want to do with that one is for y'all. On a fast break.

Yes, yes. This is like a 5-0-1. This might be a 12-0-1. The bench got up. I'm running to the bench throwing that up. Nah. I'm cool.

Someone else can grab that. Everybody slam that one together. I'm cool. All right, fine, fine. The listeners said that shit. Stay home, Louis. I'll just repeat the sentence and then we'll move on.

Louis C.K. did a surprise pop-up for unsuspecting fans who had no idea he was coming. Maybe you could still rap. I could sneak a little. I could do a 12. If I can't.

Yo, let me tell you. If I don't have a fire 12 in the tuck right now. Yeah, you trash. It's a rap. It's a rap. It's a rap, my nigga. All right. All right.

Lastly, lastly, Azealia Banks' Wildin' Out episode premiere. Did anybody watch it? I watched the clip in question. Yeah, I saw the clips, but I didn't watch the actual show. All right. Yeah, that's all I had.

I just wanted to know if anybody saw it. Listen, again, man, I like Azealia. I think she's talented, but it's just certain things she just has to just stay away from. I didn't see what was...

Like, how could you be the person online that's into trolling and into talking and snapping back sensitive bullies and then you go on wilding out

when that is the time to snap back and crack on people and you feel some type of way like you're mad I just it was just weird

it was weird I was weird watching it I was just like she made it weird yeah and I her response was definitely not correct. That's not what DC Young Fly was trying to do.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. She just made it weird. It was just like, that's not even what's happening right now. I love, I love how you're trying to be woke at Wild N' Out. Yo,

Nick Cannon is good, man. Did you see the way he tried to flip it? Everyone else like stopped and got awkward. Nick was like, ooh, you got to respond. Well, Nick is,

that's what he does. He's used to being in those situations. Roy got to shut up. I heard that part too. It was awkward when he said it. His people ain't even roll with him. Like, ooh, no, get him back.

It was like, no, this is weird. Nick told Azalea to get them back yo if you gotta do that on set of your show my g like whenever you start talking about where someone's ceiling is at on wilding out it's like all right let's just cut the commercial like this is your ceiling right here this is it i was like yo how you telling dc where his ceiling is at like like all right man i'm gonna just hit the sleepers, man. Yeah. I'm going to play this Bryson record that I was talking about,

this Bryson remake or whatever. If I could find it. Oh, I'm in the wrong category here. Let's go there. All right, yeah. I'm going to play this Bryson record because he dropped it on SoundCloud and still learning all the Spotify, SoundCloud, sleeper rules, figuring out how this is going to work.

Well, we got to the 12th. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to the 12th. 9, 12. Oh, yeah, and also happening. Wait, state of the culture, state of the culture, state of the culture. I had to wait.

I had to wait. I wanted to announce this. See, I want to announce my co-hosts here with you guys at my podcast. But I was like, let me tell savon not to fuck up my announcement savon what was the point of us announcing the spotify deal last week if you were going to write in the little paragraph hey they have a big spotify announcement coming 45 minutes in like can you explain that to me motherfuckers was congratulating us at 801

yo i just hit fast forward and yo, that's great for y'all. Like what? No, talk me through it. What was you thinking? I was trying to get the hype. I didn't say it. Mom,

say mom was trying to get the hype. He might have put how much money the deal was in the description. Yo, niggas was hitting me at 809 like, yo, that's the first time

I ever hit fast forward. But yo, y'all killed that at 809 like yo that's the first time i ever hit fast forward but yo y'all killed that i'm like uh then it was like too many of them so i didn't even tell savon to change it but all right so here's another announcement savon please don't write this in the credits let this be a surprise state of the culture my new show on revolt my collaborative effort with puff state of the culture premiere sept September 10th digitally at 5 p.m. That's a Monday. September 5th digitally at 5 p.m. Monday.

Linear, which is television, Tuesday at 10 p.m. Network television time, 10 p.m. at night. State of the Culture, we premiere soon. Spotify shit premieres soon. Everything premieres soon. My co-host. My co-host. Drum premiere soon. Spotify shit premiere soon. Everything premiere soon. My co-host. My co-host. Drum roll, please, that I don't have.

Is there anything to make this sound big in here? Applause, I guess. Let's get some applause popping. My co-host. I was looking for somebody. I was looking for somebody actually as blunt as me, but that's pretty tough. True. But I found one.

I was looking for somebody actually as blunt as me, but that's pretty tough. True. But I found one. I was looking for somebody blunt. I was looking for somebody experienced. I was looking for somebody that would be with the shits. And I was looking for a girl. What'd you come up with? Remy. Yep.

I actually can't even do applause with that one. Remy is definitely a gunshot. No, Remy's louder gunshots. Remy. I love it. You fucking right. Remy, the mission continues. I'm snatching all of them.

I'm coming for everyone. We're all changing paths here. No, I just want to hear from people that know about this shit. When you're done, there's going to be no more rappers? Basically. Yeah, I call Wale next. Get him out of there. See what's going on.

No, I just want to hear from people that are informed. And because this is such a new arena where we're talking about rap, like it's a new thing. We're a lot of people about to start making a lot of money just from talking about rap. That's new, right?

So we want to hear from people that's not afraid, people that's with the shits, people that have something to say. That sounds easy, but boy was that tough to look for. Yeah.

Yeah, you was looking for a while. She's legit too, you know what I'm saying for. Yeah. Yeah, you was looking for a while. She's legit, too. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. That's important. I'm nervous. I'm nervous. The moderator should be nervous.

Yo, some of them screen tests. Yeah, she won. I cannot wait to go to work. I cannot wait to premiere this show. I got a few more announcements that I need to make regarding this show in terms of who we're working with but some of these contracts are not finalized so I don't want to report that yet

and I will say we are shooting in Jersey City, New Jersey round of applause and gunshots give me some gunshots man what's the address I'm not telling you Because then we'll get Jersey City is gentrified now man

Yeah That is the stuff Yeah yeah yeah We're shooting in Jersey City New Jersey If you know me Then you know that this really Strikes a fucking cord

On the heart strings The universe man Look at the universe Wow Mo what's your universe saying About me shooting in Jersey City Shooting in Jersey City Yo Your friend did that the universe wow more what's your universe saying about me shooting jersey city shooting in jersey city yo your friend did that good luck your universe not complimenting me said good luck

i knew that so you're gonna do it like on the hill to keep it no keep it thorough no no no i've been stopping about a water yeah yeah it's definitely water you're not gonna be on duncan no we're not gonna be duncan'sin'? No. We're not going to be. Dunkin's nice. Yeah. They tore the projects down. Dunkin' looks good. I was driving by there and Sim was like, oh my God, look at those beautiful houses. I was like, nope. That's still Section 8.

Nope. It's just nice Section 8. The funny thing is, that might be expensive, Section 8. Like, what's Section 8 cost now? I mean, it goes to what you make. Right. Uh. Oh.

Shutting up now. You said, oh. No, don't it go from whatever you tell them you make. You got to just produce your friend's paycheck somehow. There's mad tricks to that shit. Oh, God. Are you kidding me? The first fucking trap house

I was in was fucking That's $75 a month We was killing We was killing I get confused Y'all split the $75 It's some niggas today That's paying like $1,500

Section 8 I'm laughing at you Yeah right I'm telling you something Dog you're not getting On section 8 If you can afford $1,500 I am telling you something. Dog, you're not getting on Section 8 if you can afford $1,500. I am telling you, Rory,

that there are people out there paying $1,200. I haven't been in a Section 8 area since a teenager. Well, actually, I'm sure things have changed. I'm glad you said that.

If we didn't joke around so much in this podcast and we spoke about serious stuff, that's kind of what they talked about on the Trayvon special. They talked about how that apartment development that event happened in was originally reserved for the rich white people.

And whatever happened in the town, they had to migrate some of the sections. Oh, the same thing they did with Duncan Project in Jersey? They knocked that shit down and the Section 8 people got to migrate somewhere. So they migrated there and, you there and the rest is history. And obviously, yeah, started some tension. Yeah. All right, so let's get off of that.

I don't want to play outstanding. Let me get into my sleeper pick. I don't know what I'm playing. Am I playing Bryson? Yeah, I said I was playing Bryson. Even though I don't want to play this because that's like cheating. I mean, though,

your sleeper picks be the number one record of the week. Seven weeks. You might as well play Thriller at this point Y'all are haters This is Bryson Tiller's Leaning Remix And I do think this is a sleeper by the way

So you good Shut up This record's hard Oh, I'm leanin', 420 leanin' You know I don't hold no steamin' Secrets you keepin', I never keepin' I know you've seen it Seen in the roads where it's leanin' Chick named Janina, slim like Manina Out of Miami, Dolphin Marina Let me fly you out where it's sandy Face like candy, face all yandy New V-Day 28, just granted Pink brown eyes, all Asian, it's slanted

Niggas all on you, I can't stand it I booked a flight, baby, I just landed I just ran it to you at Camden You still got it, you're still shopping You're still poppin', you're still top of Top of my list, girl, I've been in it so deep I ain't slept in five weeks Side thing, man, wish you not Hawaii-free This is for the girls born in the 90s

I'ma let you finish, let me get to my girl I've been in it so deep, I ain't slept in five weeks Side thing, man, wish you not Hawaii-free This is for the girls born in the 90s I'ma let you finish, let me get to my Girl, you know me, night's, yeah, the light is low-key Take a little trip, got the flights on me, the flights on me, so me I don't know if you're new to these things, see what I see, ride drop-topping New bag, I do it for no reason, Tron's out of leave, rolling this weed up Jumped in a G-truck, come on

Know we made love, but we got home She wanna, I don't know when he's not home I be in it so deep, he ain't in two weeks And she don't text like, when is you free? Yeah, so mama, what it's gon' be? You know he won't be, not like I'm gon' be I be in it so deep, let me get to my that was brand new music from Bryson Tiller that was the leaning remix real nigga like me ain't gonna do nothing but go home and put the party verse on there

and that's gonna be ridiculous I feel like them three niggas Might as well start like An R&B salt house Party and I wanna hear Party Bryson And Tory A lot Together

They might as well throw Jacquees in there Eh whatever fuck it Tory was at the concert With more security than Drake I didn't understand Tory was at Angie's Barbecue

With a lot of security as well I don't understand But he had a lot of jewelry on So I mean I get it He's a short guy Oh I of security as well. I don't understand. But he had a lot of jewelry on. So, I mean, I get it. He's a short guy. Oh, I didn't even tell y'all. I made up with Shiggy.

No, we saw it. We all saw it. I made up with Shiggy. Whenever you record someone, you're Shiggy. Thank God, because we the whole. Go Shigster. Yeah. Which was great. I mean, the streets was definitely.

Really hoping y'all would do that. That was awesome. I mean, the streets was definitely... That was awesome. I saw Issa Rae. I love Issa Rae. I love everybody now. Right? Where was this Joe before? That's what happens. You start getting a consistent paycheck, man.

Love is in your heart when you got money in your account. Yeah, you're right. I know. You're right. I'm angry when I'm broke. Who's playing a sleeper now? Rory? Rory, what are the emotional oranges doing?

Well, it's funny you should say. Today, I'm going to play Blood Orange. Oh, God. See? Another orange. You can tell. I'm in my orange era. Yo, don't put your two weeks in at Sony and then come act like the Sony guy here.

No, that's what I'm going to do. All right. This is Blood Orange featuring Joe's boss and T-Shag. Who's Joe's boss? Puff. Partner. I'm fucking with you. Jump in the Yo Yeah

Yo Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Is this the way that you want it to end? Is this the way that you leave me? I already told you I don't wanna be friends What's it gonna take for you to believe me? Is this the way that you want it to end?

Is this the way that you need me? Is this the way that you wanna pretend? Is this the way that you wanna pretend? Is this the way that you see me? Is this the way that you are? Yeah, bring hope when you come around Yeah, I still smile when you come around Yeah, bring hope when you come around Yeah, I still smile when I come around

Is this the way that you are This is the way that you bring me Bring hope when you come around, yeah I still smile when you come around, yeah Was it like where you were from? Are you the star of your time? I woke up and make it your home Aberrations of your love Is this the way that you are? Yeah, I still smile when you come around

Yeah, I still smile when you come around Yeah, I still smile when you come around Yeah, I bring hope, what? I bring hope, yeah I bring hope, yeah I bring hope, yeah I bring hope when you come around Yeah, I don't sometimes I ask myself like You know, what is it gonna take for me not to be afraid to be loved The way like I really want to be loved But that I know How I'm gonna be lovin' you But I'm like scared

To really really feel that You know it's like you want something But you don't know if you can handle it Puff almost made it Puff Puff can't get in his bed? Puff You give me that hope that

I'll tell you one day I get over my fears And I'm seeing This is what he whispered to you? Yes This is what he said to me on the jet Made me think I was coming up On the runway? No, you was on the runway, bro

You wasn't on the jet Yeah, you're right On the jet steps No, what did he say to you Right when you went to the house For the first time? We're ending the podcast On Instagram?

I don't doubt God, Joe. You were sold after that. Yeah, that was a Joe line. I told that to a few people. I'm going to play a joint off of... This is Young Chris. For the Spotify deal, no sleepers for you. This is Young Chris Angles off of Network 5.

One more, ignore me. No! We! work five. One more, ignore me. Young Chris still in shape, man. Yeah, man. Woo! Gotta keep the toolery usually fooling we leave the eulogies can't fool to me ain't no schooling me ain't nothing new to me The community serving the hell and gorilla fit for the Hennessy clip for the enemies root for the Kennedy shoot down the chimney No Santa just a black bandana mask and a hammer cop back blam blam ya muddy fan of backwoods Buddy Ryan

I'm slinging in the jungle with the lions. Yeah, yeah Iron under my entire, number one on the tire I never run out of fire, bringin' the choir Bringin' the casket, bitch, everything they require Even the passes, I come through wreckin' shit with Mack Myers Have them passin' out bitchuaries like flyers Everyday we lit, bitch, pullin' all nighters Man, them hoes don't deny it when you ice it like flyers When you got it for the shorty, lower your price higher

Can't fuck with a duck, nigga, you probably wire Fuck off, bunch of chinkas with a duck sauce Pussy, I need a orgasm, make me bust off Type to do a lick with me, try to tuck off I put my faith in this 38, for I trust y'all Holes to cut y'all, wet heads to dust y'all Killers full of adrenaline, type of shit that they rush off Getting sucked off, tell me what your boo

Belly full of yak, shit smelling like a sack Knock a nigga down, nigga, smelling like a rat All that telling, talking about facts Tight ass sl sack Knock a nigga down, nigga, smellin' like a rat All that tellin', talkin' bout facts Tight-ass slacks, big purses, you boys is cute Faggots, get him a casket and a three-piece suit No suits, Del Frisco, it's fee in the tank More money in the mattress than you leave in the bank Walkin' down on them niggas from the three of our kink

Inside, outside, and beavin' the paint Leavin' them stink, everything in the clips See your goons on, cemetery space, it's a tombstone Niggas still got it, don't know why they still doubt it Raw and uncut, mixed with melodic, I'm a motherfuckin' problem Won't find a skeleton in the bottom With a circle full of felons from the bottom It's the mean-ass niggas, probably got Vickies under them dickies

We run around with Calibers, 30s under the 50s We tryna find the niggas with birdies under the 30s They come in to murder, they get the trizzy, they gettin' busy Fake-ass niggas, they get jealous Sit around and talk about how I ball, skip fellas Margellas, small cubits, big dwellers D-Boy, Coke seller and Coachella Rockefeller with the beat of acapella

I dance like the Clarity and the Karras Pie niggas in Paris, far from your average Don't get embarrassed, I'm a savage Don't start, and I won't be no static Go home, get beat, something tragic Somebody dyin', dressed in black, they cryin' Black hearses, back to back to the churches Habitite for destruction let's have as a burger Niggas ain't leaving here without capital murder Oh we ain't leaving without a bag Leave a legacy I gave them the recipe

I'm they dad I'm the chemist in the lab Cooking in executive produce smelling like residue No distribution is independent I'm in the winning Ready to kill y'all I ain't wreck shit in a minute I'm in the field y'all y'all boys is under tending Running around with broomsticks with traumas in it At least a hundred in it. Lunch in it, we find out where you lampin'. Niggas runnin' in it, gunnin' in it. Huntin' in it like it's

somethin' in it. Y'all just a bunch of good pussies and I'm dumpin' in it. Fuck you new kids, all pun attended. Niggas. That's Young Chris off the Network 5. That's called Angles. Yes, Chris. He's rapping. Chris sound like Chris Still. That's called Angles Yes Chris Snap done Chris sound like Chris Still

That's always good to hear For real That was great Shout out to Chris Before we I forgot Shout out to Shari No you forgot

So it's over now No shout out to nobody now Shout out to Shari man She was named General Shari Yeah congrats to Shari Oh no

Hold up We in a round of applause For fucking Shari nigga Yeah Damn that's a loud applause But, but Sherry deserve it. What happened with Sherry? Todd, my squad's named her general partner over at Alamo Records. A general manager and partner over at Alamo Records.

Good old Todd. Shout out to Sherry, man. Love you, Sherry. Proud of you. Yeah, I'm proud too, Sherry. If anybody deserves it, it is you. That's dope. Yeah, I'm proud too, Sherry. If anybody deserves it, it is you. That's dope. Yeah.

All right, you guys got any more last second announcements here? Your birthday's coming up. It's lit. It's fucking lit. Got a big birthday, bro. Yeah, you're going to be in Philly. You're not going to be here. Yeah, I know.

Why are you even bringing it up? Well, see what you was doing. I'll be home. We'll see you Monday. I'm not doing anything I'm not going anywhere Sin looked disappointed that I don't want to do anything on my birthday girls love birthdays like she was trying to plan something

I nixed it she was trying to do like a big dinner I don't want to see people on my birthday like I'm cool with just chilling like Grumpy Joe is still just chilling glad Grumpy Joe is still around no not grumpy

you know what it is like we're we gotta figure out our schedules our all types of shit like now

like it's not a joke when I be telling people I'm really busy like I don't have the time so now if I can get some alone time taking it I'm 100%

I hear that taking it so that's where I'll be. Rory will be in Philadelphia for the Made in America joint. Come on, Rory. Get your shit off. We're doing our actual Duce Palooza. So if you're in Philly on Friday, we'll be at TLA.

And then we'll be actually at Made in America Saturday and Sunday. And not only Rory, his plus two from the Drake concert as well. They will be there, yes. They'll be at Chris O'Peter. And, Shannon, congratulations to Chris while I can. Yeah, I was going to say it was a good time in Chris. Congrats to you, Chris, on... Trapping Anonymous is now exclusive to Tidal.

Hey! Don't you... I said we could only do it right now. No, no, no. No, don't say Tidal or C.V. September 12th, I stopped talking about it. No, damn it. You put your two weeks in.

It's Chris with the ops. With the ops. Chris, hey, and we in It's Chris with the ops With the ops Chris And we support you Chris And we support the ops Oh and Speaking of the Drake concert I seen what Elliot was trying to do Asking me and Maul for the picture

When he's the ops So I was trying to do that Elliot Trying to fuck up our contract He clearly He didn't read my shirt that night I clearly wore a shirt That said no photos Elliot was trying to get us caught up

Yeah I saw the photo of you guys Yeah And I clearly wore a shirt that said no photos. Elliot was trying to get us caught up. I saw the photo of you guys. And I read his caption. He said, new podcast alert. Are you guys starting a new podcast with Elliot? I don't know. You never know. No, that's why I'm asking. We can't speak.

No, but that's why I'm asking. Yeah, because you never know. Because you never know. You really never know. We'll see y'all next week. Oh, before we go, let me not be disrespectful to the culture. Salute to Manu Ginobili. Years and years and years of amazing moments you've given me.

Yeah. Honestly. One of the best at his position, for sure. Yeah, one of the best twos ever. One of the best twos. One of the best international players. Just one of the more underrated players because

you know now that he's retiring I'm seeing a whole bunch of clips they did his best passes his best playoff moments like he gets busy yeah yeah

yeah yeah I'm gonna miss him he was great too because he was one of the white guys that dunked that was always like cool for us

yeah he dunked for two years right you know white niggas can't jump but for so long Manu's not white see cause He was one of the white guys that dunked. That was always cool for us. Yeah, he dunked for two years, right? White niggas can't jump up for so long. Manu's not white. He's from Argentina. That's white. More Spanish than anything, right?

That's white. He's Logic white. They're white. Okay. Oh, Parks wanted us to know that Logic has a new project coming out. Honestly, he did. Did you mix it? No, I didn't.

Okay. I just saw the announcement. Logic says... I know Joe's a big fan. Your part says your mix bag went up? Like, niggas been hitting you for the mixes? For the mix? Yeah. The bag went up a little bit?

Yeah. Okay. As it should. Yeah, rates got to go up. Okay. I'm busy. I'm busy. Parks is booked and busy.

Booked and busy. Logic better not say nigga on that album. What do you mean? Why not? He can't't I'm out I'm not doing this with y'all I will see y'all Oh next time I see y'all

I'll be 38 And that's it Round of applause for that That's a round of applause That's a round of applause man 38 What you mean It's an accomplishment

Every birthday I have Niggas start telling me Damn you been that age For 10 years Yeah you not 40 yet. Yeah, that's crazy. Did Puff give you an industry age? Joe is 40 in his face.

Joe wants to be... You know, he wears that. He dresses old. He drinks coffee. He reads the newspaper. He listens to random old R&B songs from the 70s exclusively. He wants to be old. Joe'sman wanted to be 40 for 20 years podcast is over

thank you guys we've fulfilled our contract for the week everything is fine wait is next week the 12th no

no damn niggas can't wait to get to that 12th boy why we don't get paid until October so yo everyone

everyone that sees me when I'm out is like, drinks is on you. I don't got a dollar yet. Niggas, yo, my number is changing.

I'm letting y'all, it has to. No, I'm changing my number. It has to. No, I'm with you. I said that last week

that I wasn't. No, then I went outside. No, no, niggas is trying to talk to me. No, no,

trying to exchange. When you go outside, just because you have a different number, that's not going to change. No, no, no, no, I'm changing my number and I'm not going outside. No. No. Trying to exchange masses. Well, when you go outside just because you have a different number, that's not going to change. No. No, no, no. I'm changing my number and I'm not going outside.

Oh, okay. For real, because it's uncomfortable. Like, you can tell the new conversations. And that's what I'm about to say. And I'm getting the fuck out of here. But don't start that shit, Universe.

Yeah. Universe. Yo, Ball, tell your Universe. Yeah, that's definitely Ball's Universe doing that shit. That's not my Universe, bro. You got to talk to your... Yo, Universe,

don't start that shit i've been cool for mad years i've avoided all of the shit that comes with success don't don't bring it now no i don't want it i don't and i'm still weird i don't like having those conversations i'm serious don't come up to me you know everybody want to have a rap conversation now about you you see those travis number that nigga? Yo. No. That would really be it, too. All our listeners really want to have the podcast when they see you. Yeah, yeah.

I got an Uber with a podcast fan not long ago, and he wanted to have a podcast in the Uber. The whole ride home. Oh, that's the worst. When the Uber nigga want to have a podcast in the Uber? No, no, no. Sorry, sir. Make the left. It was a good cab ride, but still. Sorry, sir. Make the left. It was a good cab ride,

but still. You're trying to, it's the end of the night. It's, you know what I mean? I just want to go home. I don't care when it is. I don't, I don't want to have a conversation with y'all

about it in person. They have to put the feature on Uber that lets the driver know that you don't want to ever talk to them. I can't believe they still haven't put that, everyone's talked about that

for so long, I figured. and Twitter should have an edit feature, like by now that's true we should be able to fix our mistake delete the whole tweet

and then read yeah come on come on and then the anxiety that's with it oh let me delete it before 20 people see it before it's screenshotted

and then put back on the timeline yeah alright we are out of here talk to you niggas next week shout out to every story that's gonna break today well tomorrow

but today as in Wednesday I hate those weeks when all the news breaks on a Wednesday but we'll cover it next week until then Arrivederci

we bid you adieu I really gotta work on my podcast goodbye bye