The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 387 | "That Jigga Person"

Episode Date: October 28, 2020

On this episode: T.I. finds an opponent in Jeezy to battle on Verzuz (14:21) and the guys give their predictions. Kanye West's interview with Joe Rogan  (36:35), Joe asks what're the most impactful albums over the last 15 years (59:32), Drake announces his next album (1:10:24). Also, Reason joins to chop it up about Griselda (1:52:55), the best rapper in his peer group (2:27:16), Tsu Surf retiring (2:41:25) and more!   Joe | SAINt JHN - “Sucks To Be You” Rory | SG Lewis - “Feed The Fire” (Ft. Lucky Daye) Mal | Xavier Omär - “Surf” (Ft. Masego) Parks | Reason - “Flick It Up” (Ft. Ab-Soul)

Have you guys got any pre-pod banner for me? Pre-pod banter? Banner, banter, banter, banter. Banner. Is it banter or banner? I even heard Benner's name brought up in a few rooms. Oh, yeah? I was like, look at Rory with a famous manager.

Benner's doing his thing now. When y'all introduce me to people, you got to tell me their level of thoroughness. You might have known Benner longer than Rory has. I'm sure I have. I'm sure I have. Benner don't fuck with Joe, though. Really? He's never brought that up to me.

Only speaks highly of Joe. I don't think he liked the way you was treating Locksmith when Locksmith was on the road with you. Oh, I could see that happening. And he was managing Locksmith at the time. When y'all did a little tour run together. Locksmith likes me. He probably likes you. What did I do to Locksmith? I didn't know that. Locksmith likes me. Yeah, I thought that... I mean, he probably likes you, but I don't think...

What did I do to Locksmith? I didn't say Locksmith. I said I just don't like... I don't think that Benner liked the way you were kind of like treating him on that run. That shocks me

because Benner and Joe chain smoke more cigarettes than any human being I've ever seen, so I figured they'd just get along. And I thought... Maybe now, yeah, but back then...

I don't remember any animosity or feeling any animosity when Boxman was it wouldn't tell me yeah they're on my tour I was I knew and was close

with Benner at that time and he never brought up anything he said nothing but good things that's a professional take that take that Maul Benner loves me

I hope he does Benner's a good he's a good guy God damn it yeah Benner's a great guy when are we gonna talk to your manager hop

hop right now hop right now he might not answer he's a good guy god damn it yeah that's a great guy when are we going to talk to your manager right now he might not answer you can't even get your own manager on the phone hob is the worst that makes sense that makes friends in the family oh my god i will say that when your manager like starts to get more popping and doing other it does get a little annoying when you can't get him on the phone the way you used to be able to like benner started doing the ti product manager and all that shit and i'm like fam i have a lot going on over here can you answer yeah i'll call you like six hours yeah exactly the fuck man exactly i'm in the same boat but yeah i was in a meeting with netflix for five hours fam okay i understand that but we got a contract what's up what's going on and then me and him on the phone

for five hours so So I get it. I get it. I understand. But shout out to Benner. Good guy. And Hop. Shout out to Locksmith too. And Locksmith.

And Hop. How long before Rory leaves Benner for like a big management firm? Nah, Rory's a lifer. Yeah. Nah, me and Benner, we've been business partners for a while. That's not going to change. Rory's a lifer. He'll come with me to rock. There you go. See?

I like that. I like that too. Come on, Rory. Come on, Rory. Come on, Rory. Maybe I'll get a manager one day. You have a manager. She's upstairs. True. Little do you know, buddy. I got someone here to work, man.

You got a manager. Yo, Rory, review these contracts for me, man. That's pretty funny alright what you got for us regular black people cookout shit okay this might be on my

let me try to impress black people when I have the oxcord song what's up Jeff this is the song your aunt that got the most money

pulls up to the cookout and shit she got the most money pulls up to the cookout. She got the best car. Yo, now y'all are talking. Now we got a topic. Tell me about your mom and your aunt's beef. Yeah, my mom and God bless my other aunt that passed away. They definitely had lifelong beef.

Oh, I could do a whole podcast on my mom and my aunt's beef. Lifelong beef. I used to have to hear it all. I'm like, auntie did what? She did what in 78? In 78? You still harboring that? Well, it's crazy. Family beef is crazy.

Yeah, it is. Crazy. Hope everybody's feeling good, feeling great. I'm not. I'm not. I'm sicky. I'm here for you, babe. Only me, like a fucking idiot. I knew that was going to backfire on me.

I'm only on earth to find creative ways to fuck myself over. That's not why you're only on earth, but okay. In the summertime, whoever lived in my house before me, I think I told y'all this, right? Whoever lived in my house before me, I think I told y'all this, right? Whoever lived in my house before me automatically set the temperature on my thingamajiggy. Okay, the thermostat. So I would put it to like 68, and it would automatically go to like 76 five times throughout the day. So in the summertime, I was burning up.

So I took like a day and preset all of them shifts to like 67 on some angry shit. So now. It's set at 67? I'm sick of shit. How you spiting the thermostat? I am so sick of it. I'll show you. You can turn that off now.

Just open the windows. Joe Battle. Drink, prodigy. And the thermostat. And Nest. Central Air. Bass God. Bass God.

Come on. Well, that was a one-way battle. He smoked you. That's true. That's true Bass God. Bass God. Well, that was a one-way battle. He smoked you. That's true. That's true. Shout out, Bass God. Don't shout out my enemies on podcast. And I'm joking.

We love you, Bass God. I hope this night comes back together. I've been a little light on the gunshots these last few pauses. We back, though. Make up for lost time. Rory, keep your little white eyes off my Serato. I see you. Get out of here. He's trying to get some names.

I was looking past them, honestly. I really wasn't even... You're not looking at your dudes? You're looking past them? I was zoning out. I was zoning out. He was looking past me. I was looking through you.

Come on, let me do this shit for DC and Jersey right quick. Some people tell me that Detroit know a little bit about this, too. Happy Wednesday, though. Shout out to everybody listening all over the world. You know the vibes. I know where to pop the cameras, Erickson. Get out of here Erickson, you stood on the side in the club And watched niggas like me dance when this was on

You was dancing by yourself, nigga I was grinding on something Shut up I mean, you went to the bathroom When the ill club set came on. You didn't have the right two steps. Shut up. Tell me about no fucking cameras, man.

I need to check everybody's level of thoroughness moving forward. Ha, ha, ha. I mean, today we're doing it for the niggas that brought her and her friends the drinks. Not the niggas that was turned away by that. Can I get you ladies around? What are you ladies sipping on? Yo, niggas are so corny. I've done all of that.

Absolutely. All right, man. Step further. Make some drinks. I see more in Chicago. Take it way further. Fuck, I was in there with a shaker. Real shaker.

Sorry, I was never in there with a fucking shaker. It was like Tom Cruise. No, it was not. Cocktail. They don't even send you the shaker at the table. You asked for it. I was juggling bottles and shit. I asked for the shaker. You definitely asked for the shaker.

Fuck it, ask for it. Did you like the drinks on fire and shit? So where did the joke come from, mall? He just made it up. No, he didn't. He just freestyled that. What the fuck did it come from? God forbid the streets find out you can make a nice drink.

No, I make a good drink, but I didn't have the shaker. Don't do that. That's going to be like when I found out you can make grit. Yo, Joe is so fascinating. Grit is so simple. That's what's difficult. Yeah, it's not the most difficult. Don't let me find out a nigga can do something.

You're going to stretch it. Look at you knowing how to. Hey, fam. All right, man. I know how to make grits. We got it. I sit at all parks cooking only to be at his house for seven consecutive weekends. That's facts.

Oh, man. Hold on. Let me get these drops out of the way. That reminds me of some other stupid shit I thought before. No. No. before. No, no, no, no. No, warrior, no. Sumter, South Carolina. I'm over Uncle Mike's house.

That means Michael Paul. My cousin Michael Paul is over there. My cousin Sabrina. Although I'm like five years old. Michael Paul had. Wait, we shouldn't say ***. But it's crazy. I know the part you was talking about immediately. Look how that shit just rolled over your tongue, like, the little ***

part. See how niggas used to talk? You can get that off back in the day, man. You can't get that off no more. That's what it was referred to as. Exactly. Michael Paul had the bum-ass part. You know the part that the little Spanish kids

tried to do? Oh, the little bum ass part. Yeah. But anyway, Michael Paul was trying to tell me at the time at five years old

that the way that every human got on this planet was through sex. Did I ever tell y'all this story before? No. No, but he was right.

I argued him right on down at five years old. Michael Paul, you mean to tell me you think everybody here is having sex? That's fucking funny. I wonder if he would remember that if I called him, but we're not starting.

What was your counter argument? I didn't have one. I didn't have one. Interesting that he later went on to become a doctor and me a rapper. But I laughed at that story. I think you guys went down your right path. And he was right.

And he was right. Who knew? But when did you learn that? Why do you know that? Definitely not at five. No. I might have been six and he was five. I think I learned that in first grade.

I don't know how old you are in first grade. Why are they teaching you that in the first grade? It was like my sister's friend's brother. It wasn't the appropriate way to learn the birds and the bees. When I was really young, my mom told me, God just gives you a child when you're ready. And then that had me judging every parent on my block. Like, I don't know if that person was ready.

You still are doing that. I don't know if that person was ready. And you still are doing that. I don't know what God was thinking. God, they were not ready. I don't know why you blessed them with a child. Oh, y'all taking it there now. How old was y'all when y'all found out your godmom was your mom? Wait, wait, wait.

When your aunt was your mom and your grandma was your grandma. How old were you when you found out your godmom was really your mom? What the fuck? Still waiting for that day, personally. I know. I do not want that to happen. That's some crazy shit. I'm joking, man.

How old were you? Ask and grow him in that question. Listen, man. It should get real what you find out about your family later on in life. Yeah. All right. Welcome to episode. What episode is this, Avon?

Huh? 387. 387? Welcome to episode 387. Damn, my fucking mouth is mad dry. Jesus. My lip balm. Actually, now that I think about it, my dad was convinced that my older cousin was really

my mom's daughter that she had when she was like 13 and they just tried to clean it up by saying her older sister was the mom oh so you're not an only child i guess not i always thought that was a little fishy by the way what that rory only child story coming from an irish man no it is. For Irish, it definitely is weird. Yeah. Too many drunken nights for that. Family just didn't have the talk with him yet. You didn't sit him down? You're going to have

a brother come forward soon. I'm sure. Hey, that's what happened to me. How old was I when I found out I had a little brother? 10?

Mom didn't report it like the greatest of news. Was it very loving? Wait, is this what type of pod we doing today? Family grievances, there about?

I'm oversharing today. Yeah, she was tight. That's funny. And I might be lying to my mom. I don't remember her temperament, but yeah, that was wild.

I'm like, so is he my brother or not? It's a lot of extra stories going on. Oh, man. All right. Episode 387 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble,

gracious, grateful, highly favored and sick host, Joe Budden, here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Maul is here. Pow.

Parks. Trying something new. I brought it back. I brought the pow back. Fucking Trumpers are empowered. They're empowered lately. He's feeling good about himself.

Yeah. Parks is here. Rory is here. E-Rab is here. Savon Cheeto. Don Cheeto is here. And Alex the Great is here. How's everyone doing?

You guys are looking good. Smelling good. I'm just saying, you speak for everyone. Everyone's blessed. We're all blessed. We're here. That's true. That's true.

All we need to do is be here. All right, we'll let people speak for themselves. Okay, my bad, fellas. Get your shit off. People might not be feeling blessed right now.

I'm blessed. I'm blessed. I feel blessed. Rory's mental health might be plummeting. Oh, it's been for about a year now. I've been melting for a year. I've only been just projecting that on this podcast

and no one will listen. No, no, no. I'll be listening. I'm hoping we secure a deal before you get better. Before you get better, yeah. Yeah, no, because Rory's spiraling is helping us take it down. Yeah, no, no. I be listening. I'm hoping we secure a deal before you get better. Before you get better, yeah. Yeah, no, because Rory's spiraling is helping us take it there.

Yeah, no, it is. It's helping take us there. I see Marcy matched the kicks with Dennis' hair. Oh, man. I tried to do a little something today for y'all. I figured y'all would appreciate that. Old Denny Rod. Yeah, man.

You know the icon himself. The icon himself. You know what I mean? What kind of hoodie is that? It's Killer Hype. Okay. Yeah, Killer Hype. The icon himself You know what I mean What kind of hoodie is that It's killer height Okay Yeah killer height Rory's got on his Hipster sneakers

I gave him the Scots today Ooh Okay Rory Something light with a sweat Light light Subtle Yeah subtle If they know they know

I gave him a black shirt I hate that by the way If you know you know I hate that I didn't even know they gave Dennis Scott sneakers Dennis Scott Oh shit Rory

No it's the Michael Scott Dennis Scott The offices know they gave Dennis Scott sneakers. Dennis Scott. Oh, shit, bro. No, it's the Michael Scotts. Dennis Scott. The offices. You got the Dennis Scotts? They don't make it to the finals without them. Come on, man. Come on, rep them. Yeah, man.

Dennis Scotts. All right, gentlemen, where would you like to begin? What would you guys like to start with? Well, we finally got the verses solidified. Hey! T.I. has a contender. Hey! I think we should take the credit for that. Even though they've been planning it, we finally got the verses solidified. Hey! T.I. has a contender. Hey! I think we should take

the credit for that. Even though they've been planning it, we did say it the day before. It was probably us. Yeah. We kind of felt like this was going to be

the one that, because T.I. couldn't. I'm sure they've been planning this from on. I'm sure. No, of course. It wasn't us. We'll take it.

They made the graphic the moment they heard us talk. They heard the pod. Yeah, let's take that credit. They're like, oh, that is a good idea. Why didn't we think of that? If you ask me, everybody heard the pod when they say something. Like that credit. They're like, oh, that is a good idea. Why didn't we think of that? If you ask me, everybody heard the pod when they say something.

Like the Joe Rogan shit, I'm like, oh, they listening. Yeah, no, that's for real, though. They hear it. The word travels. All right, so T.I. and Jeezy. Before this was announced, we discussed the idea of it on the last pod, right? Yes, we did. And then later on that night, I was around some friends,

and we were talking about a potential T.I. versus Jeezy matchup. Nodge was one of those people. And when I said that I thought T.I. would win. You were hanging out with Nodge and discussing? Yeah, I was going to let him finish about it. Just casually. N-I-G, not N-A-S. Okay.

Nodge. N-I-G, not N-A-S. N-I-G. And N-I-G almost lost his mind when he found out I thought T.I. would win. He started going crazy. Really? Is N-I-G a Jeezy fan? Jeezy is a cult fan base.

Led by Ice. True. I'm taking Jeezy in this. I think T.I. has bigger records, without a doubt. But I think we like more of Jeezy's records, personally. Tevin? Yeah, when I was thinking about that, I was like, all right, it's going to go with the cult favorites or the cultural favorites on the Jeezy side.

Yeah, when T.I. plays his Rihanna record, of course it would be a bigger record. Yeah, it's a bigger record. But if Jeezy puts on Go Crazy to that, I'm picking Go Crazy. Right. And not to say this isn't the same league, but that's kind of the argument with Manny Fresh versus Scott Storch, though. Yeah. Like Billboard versus Cult. Versus actual, the songs you play now.

Right. Because I don't play a lot of those T.I. records. T.I. definitely has those records, too, though. He has the Cult. No, he does. I don't think he has more than Jeezy, though. No, I don't think so. Yeah.

But I can see someone easily saying T.I. would win this just because he has bigger records. I have Jeezy. I looked at his first album, and he can play about nine, eight, nine records off of that first album and possibly win those rounds when he plays those records. That says a lot, just your first album. You could run one-on-one, top to bottom. All right, well, before I was rudely interrupted, only for you guys to go through every nuance of this conversation in two minutes.

Were you interrupted? I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, the platform is yours, Senator. I was saying... Senator. You're Senator Joe. Joey Senate. Y'all in a real goofball mood today.

I was saying, Maul, that that conversation led to us simulating a battle. I took T.I. He took Jeezy. And I won. We had judges. I won. But I won by one point. It was tied. And then we had an overtime and I

won by one because I won the overtime. But I'm here to walk back what I thought before. And what I thought before was that I won the overtime. But I'm here to walk back what I thought before. Okay. And what I thought before was that I don't even see why this would be happening. And that's wrong. I maybe had T.I. winning by a lot more than what I think will happen now. And depending on Jeezy's selection, I'm not so sure that T.I. would win.

And I think it's okay to give Jeezy some of his flowers. See, because when we talk about Jeezy, we always go to, oh, he's got a cult fan base. But enough of that. He's retired now. He's not retired. He said he retired. He put out an EP like six months ago.

Not even. Rappers don't retire. And after that, he said he retired. Oh, okay. Oh, he dropped a single last week. But he did say he retired, though, right remember a retirement conversation don't retire but he still looks retired but i'm still putting out music he looks retired he's well he's dressed he's retired he's engaged he's engaged like retired niggas yeah he's retiring from one game yeah absolutely getting

married you're retiring from one game for sure that That's what he meant by retiring. Yeah. Okay. I'm just saying, now the people that weren't necessarily in his cult fan base, we can appreciate, not we as in me, but we can appreciate just the greatness of him. Jeezy's going to be tough to beat because one of his sliders that probably beats everybody else is just voice and impact. Yeah. Impact off that first album alone is going to be crazy. Is he allowed to play Can't Tell You Nothin'? His ad-libs are on it.

They are. It don't matter. And didn't he do a remix? I think he threw a verse on it at some point, but that might have been some mixtape shit. I'm not saying that would be a go-to, but that's like an automatic haymaker. I'm not sure that he should play it. See, when T.I. plays Dead and Gone, I don't want to hear Dead and Gone in a battle. That's one of his biggest records, right?

I don't even know if that's the name of it. Jeezy has 20 records that is going to make it a tough night for T.I. And I guess for me, it depends on how you feel about the other. That other stuff T.I. does like Blurred Lines. No, T.I. got records.

Destiny's Child, I'm a Soldier. The Justin Timberlake shit was a super big hit. The Justin Timberlake joint. He's got a few of those. T.I. has a lot of records. He has a lot of hits. But that's what I'm saying. In this battle-

It depends on how you feel about Swagger Like Us. That's a win. That's a win. Some people feel that it has aged bad and it sounds dated. Yeah, but that's a win. If you feel like the rest of the people feel about that, then that is a win. I won when I played it. That's a win.

Swag like us is a win. Then again, it was some young people. I was going to say, who were the judges in this battle that you won? It was GC was a judge, and he thought T.I. would win. And Mariah was a 22-year-old. Mariah Lynn? Really smart girl. No, not Mariah Lynn.

Don't. I was about to say, you ain't even hit me. I'm getting erect. Erect? Look at you stiff. And she was going for GZ. So where did your battle take place, or when? At a kickback to somebody's house.

Oh, okay. Recently? After the pod. Oh, okay. It was after we did the pod. I wasn't hip. Shut up, Parks. I wasn't hip.

I didn't know you were out here battling. You didn't invite me to your birthday party. I was going to say, everyone in this pod seems to be having kickbacks and not inviting any other members of the pod. I've seen a pic Rory posted. He had the fireplace. With like wood. Yeah, but it was mad wood.

It was mad wood. It was just him. His fiance was asleep. He wasn't making it look vibey. It looked cold. It looked cold. I was enjoying myself. No, that's kind of swag.

I was staring at the skyline. That's like some old white guy shit is to light up a wood fire and have a whiskey in the freezing cold outside by yourself. Hell yeah. Except now my jacket smell like smoke. You guys have made me reconceptualize that. Yeah, no, that's kind of swaggy.

When is this battle taking place? November, right? Yeah, I didn't like how they announced it this early. When is it? November 9th? I want to say. 19th. 19th.

Oh, man. Shit is on Thanksgiving. This is going to be in Atlanta somewhere, I'm assuming. I would imagine. 19th 19th oh man shit is on Thanksgiving this is gonna be in Atlanta somewhere I'm assuming I would imagine say it to a song Busta really didn't like

T.I. turning him down did y'all see the other videos he put out I feel like he's been going on a press run of just the turn down I'm not gonna play him

but yeah you gotta add him a little bit I want someone to battle Busta though me too Missy someone tweeted us Missy and that's actually a really though. Me too. Missy. Yeah, someone tweeted us Missy, and that's actually a really good... But we had

said Missy before that. That's why I don't care about what they tweet us. We said that before. But Missy is the one. Missy's the one. That person and us was right. But then that goes into the other bag, too. I don't like that, that we just putting Busta in a battle with Missy. I think

he needs to be in a battle one of these male emcees that think they got hit records like I think that his career his records his his lyrical ability I think yeah what I think that no I think that that's where he he belongs he belongs how's that misogynistic I don't say nothing Missy is a legend Missy has hits she can rap for real I'm not yeah but can Missy rap as good as Bustin' Ron

yes no she can't probably cut it out let's stop we ain't gotta do that I love women and I support women

in hip hop too I'm not saying it because she's a woman Missy cannot rap as well as Bustin' Ron stop how do you think now why you wanna go

and do that performs in a battle I lost that round when I played that I didn't think I should is that a try How do you think, now why you want to go and do that performs in a battle? I lost that round when I played that. I didn't think I should have. Is that a try? I lost Fancy, too, with Drake. Like, the judges was wild that night. Fancy?

You were Jeezy? No, I was T.I., but Nodge played every Jeezy and Hov song. And that always won the crowd. And I forgot just how many songs Jeezy has with Hov. This guy would not stop. He gave him Sina Law. Nigga, some of them I never heard.

Sina Law is a really underrated Hovers. They have great records together. This is going to be one of those battles. I was going to start with one of them until they actually announced the battle. Then I didn't want to show favoritism. One of them battles I was gonna start With one of them Until they actually Announced the battle Then I didn't wanna Show favoritism

But one of them Fucking hove cheesy Shits Like wait Why did I hear this before Yeah he won all those rounds Wait what lost To Fancy

I mean one to Fancy One of them Hoving cheesy records I don't know I wouldn't run this town I would hope so Playing that fucking Monster of a record Who was on Is he record? I don't know. I wouldn't run this town. I would hope so. Playing that fucking monster of a record.

Who was on Run This Town? Oh, yeah, he played. Were you Rihanna? Yeah, look at this guy. Yeah, Jeezy might win this. I'm trying to tell you, he has eight or nine off his first album alone that could be a win for him. Eight or nine tracks off his first album. And he's got enough circulated through the rest Of his career Where he could take That's why I asked

How y'all thought That song would be received From T.I. How do you think Some of T.I.'s songs Would be received Cause what I was feeling In that battle

The battle that we simulated Was For every hard hard track That I got from That I played from T.I. Where It was that trap shit He was talking that shit

Jeezy's voice On whatever came next Was a lot to deal with. It didn't matter the song, it didn't matter the beat, the hook. As soon as he said something, it was like, oh, fuck, drug dealer's feeling this. I think what T.I. was thinking when he first started talking this battle thing was, he does have a lot of hit records. He does. But in this type of setting, I don't think people care about,

people care about what song do they like more. What song do they play more, what had more replay value. That's true. Like, whatever you like, one of T.I.'s biggest records chart-wise, but people don't play that. People don't want to hear that. People not throwing whatever you like on them. Is he going to play that?

Probably. That's one of his biggest records. He's probably going to play it. I didn't play that. People don't want to hear that. People are not throwing whatever you like on them. Is he going to play that? Probably. That's one of his biggest records. He's probably going to play it. I didn't play it. And the 22-year-old was like, he didn't even play whatever you like. But that's what I'm saying. That's one of his biggest records. And I'm like, well, yeah.

And that wasn't her voice, but. Yeah, so. But he has a lot to pull from, though. He has a lot of records to choose from. But it's going to come down to what people have, what has more replay value versus, or do you just like the bigger record right you know i mean like that's what this battle is gonna be and i think if you just play with people like more i think gz has more records that people actually like and have more replay value than chart topping records well we shall see yeah

only mad weeks away i think. knows the opponent in that way I don't think he's just going to try to cross over his us to death when he knows he's going against Jeezy right

because T.I. still has that cult down south shit that people love the same way Jeezy does I just think Jeezy probably has more of it but yeah I think T.I. knows

who he's going against I don't know he's very aware definitely if your status ain't hood I ain't checking for you better be street if you're looking at me i remember i remember the tune we need a soldier i just read i've been going through a lot of them destiny child lyrics

trying to break it down listen not not now but one day it's coming. They have a lot of lyrics that just... That was Solange's pregnancy reveal. I knew it. In the video. She started that whole wave. Nobody remember when that came on? 106? They were like, oh shit, she's pregnant.

Look at this shit Rory's brain retains. How do you remember that? How do you remember that? He wasn't outside, I was. Yeah, how do you remember he wasn't outside I was yeah I wasn't I wasn't outside I'm still not outside Roy you got me

hyped with this talking about there might be a Solange album dropping last week oh yeah we was catfished man how do you get

catfished on an album I don't pay attention to the when people are really good at making fake pages like they just change just one

little letter capital L with an I. Sneaky. They called me, man. And the person that sent it to me, I consider a reliable source. And then he hit me after and was like, I got dupe, man.

Come on, you got to run it through Benner. Yeah. Benner would have gave that thing one look and he would have known. Filled to that bad boy. He would have known. He would have saw the eye, like, look, it's fake. All right, so speaking of albums

that may or may not come out, right? Rory hit it on the head with that Todd Dollar sign review last week when he said, this is real cool music if you're at the kickback and it's in the background and you're not really listening. I tried it. It worked? I'm sure it worked. It was a lot better that way.

Yeah. If I'm left to just Focus all of my attention On this album Then I'm gonna nitpick Right Because there's a lot To nitpick about

But if it's just on In the background Awesome That's the best way To listen to music though But now Sometimes No

Depends Fuck that Were there any Unsuspecting women That were looking to fornicate They were suspecting There were suspects Nah Were there any unsuspecting women that were looking to fornicate? They were suspected. They were suspects.

Nah. Chick don't try to fuck me no more. No, no. Let's not show this topic. They'll take it if it land there. Yeah. But they don't go for it. At 40, I'm out of it.

I learned that in clubhouse, too. I was the man until a fucking party showed up. You think, how tall are you? That's a popular question. He blew me, oh, 6'6". Like, wow. I didn't know you were so tall. Even Joe in there, like, wait, 6'6"? Wow.

I'm in there like, hey, seen that freestyle you did for the Black Queens? You really laced that one. Yo. Oh my God. What are we talking about because we're all over the place? We're talking about the time. I thought we were talking

about the time in a man's life when he realizes that women don't want to fuck him anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At 40. At 40 for me,

they're not doing that. They're not checking. I mean, you could pay for it though. Yeah, but you don't always to fuck him anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At 40. At 40, for me, they're not doing that. They're not checking. I mean, you could pay for it, though. Yeah, but you don't always want to do that. I'm glad I'm not single, man. It's got to be hard to woo someone these days. It's terrible. To woo.

Yeah, it's hard to woo. And then that's the other problem. I'm looking to be wooed. Right. When do men get wooed? We got to find a woman that knows how to woo men hey for those of you

that were like me and thought it would happen when you got rich we're here to exist we gotta die we're here to exist support yeah

and then die yeah yeah no it's horrible see she knows yeah she's she's laughing at me

being unappealing no oh yeah so this is what i was saying uh so apparently because some of you really really tore me up about my harsh criticism of todd dollarstein but i stand by it fuck y'all uh you show them but now this is another part of my concern. Allegedly, there is a rumored Tide Dollar album that the entire industry has heard already. And they all say is indeed the greatest album that they've ever heard. It's one of these. And it's not this. So maybe he wants to,

he owes somebody an album. Man, I wish I could, I wish I knew what was going on with these artists. Well, it could also be, I feel like some people

don't want to release like their great work if they can't tour it. Because I would do, if I was like, That's interesting. If I had something that I would like to tour,

I'm not putting that shit out right now. I'm going to give you some feature-y shit. It's an appetizer. Yeah. I don had something that I would like to tour, I'm not putting that shit out right now. I'm going to give you some feature-y shit. It's an appetizer. Yeah. I don't know if I would give you 25 songs. Right. Well, if you got as much songs as Ty has.

Well, that's true. Well, they guesstimate that touring will be back summer 2021. I don't all the way believe that yet. Yeah, I'm not sure about that. Yeah. I mean, not for huge acts. For smaller acts, they might be able to get away with it. I'm just saying.

So you're talking about potentially holding off music for... Another year. Another year. Well, I could see people putting out projects that they aren't maybe as passionate about. Or just sitting on some fun shit, but keeping their masterpiece or whatever to the side for a little bit. As long as possible. Until you can tour it. I get it.

But I do want to hear this album. If there's a secret Ty Dolla $ign album that exists where he did all the shit I thought he would do on this album, I want it.

I want it and I'll just wait for it. Artists should give us live albums right now. I agree. I think now is a good time for an artist to perform.

How does a live, oh. To perform his album live and then stream it, put it out. Right. Yeah, it'd be cool. I always liked live versions

of records that I loved. Me too. Like to hear the band play like an older hip hop record and then the rapper still has his current lyrics. Well, that's a really good idea. Yeah.

They should do live versions of albums now and just stream it. Put it out. Do the visual. MTV's dropping the ball right now with not bringing Unplugged back. Yeah.

All of that type of shit I think is dope right now. That's perfect for right now. Yeah. Live versions of albums. Stream it. You can put the video out as well. Right.

Of the show. The live show. Right. Yeah. I think this is a good time for that. That is a good idea. What else we got? Oh, well, Ty's about to do

Tiny Desk. Oh, nice. That's kind of in that vein. Yeah, for sure. Oh, no.'s about to do Tiny Desk. Oh, nice. That's kind of in that vein. Yeah, for sure. Oh, no. I'd be leaving Tiny Desk shit on YouTube for the day.

Tiny Desk is dope. I like Tiny Desk. Tiny Desk is amazing. Look at my man Ant Clemens again. He everywhere, man. Ant, I see you, boy. You working.

Hello, Anthony. Yeah, he's working. When does this come out? I think it said two days. Okay. Tomorrow. The Hip Hop Awards, the Hip Hop Awards,

BET Hip Hop Awards were yesterday. Of course, we're recording before they air, so we don't know anything that they're doing. And if you're hearing this now,

we have one. This may come back to bite me when we lose. Do your acceptance speech now, Roy. I was asking Maul why he didn't go down to the red carpet to represent us. I didn't know what a red carpet was. And have his speech ready.

The virtual red carpet? Yeah. Who does the acceptance speech, Maul? Do you want to do it? Walk outside on your block and film it. I'll do it. Yeah, do it. I'll do the acceptance speech.

Yo, thank y'all for supporting us. Continue to support us. And the rest of these nominees were not hip-hop platforms. I'm not even quite sure we're a hip-hop platform. Are we a platform? We're not hip-hop. Y'all have a lot of dip on your chip right now. It's jokes.

I don't think we're going to win. I think they'll give it to one of their major label. I'm literally talking shit. I think this is funnier when we lose. Yeah, exactly. This is a joke. That's the point. Yeah, that was a loser's speech.

But, I mean, this is coming from someone that is a BET Social Award winner. Oh, that's true. I mean, I have the trophy in my living room. It's a hashtag. Get it? Socials? Yeah. Got you.

Yeah, but thank you. Listen, I'm just honored to be nominated. Yeah, congrats to whoever won. Oh, yeah, we should give our loser a speech, too. Yo, fuck them. There, congrats to whoever won. Oh, yeah, we should give our loser a speech, too. Yo, fuck them. There you go. There you go. Snatch that award out of Charlamagne's hand.

Right. Do we know if it's like a real... It's all virtual, I'm sure, right? Yes. Yeah, I'm sure. I wonder if they still did Cyphers. Yeah, because it says her is in the Cypher. Tiana Taylor is in the Cypher.

Did they just do like a Zoom Cypher? Brandy's in the Cypher. Switches Taylor is in the cypher. Did they just do like a Zoom cypher? Brandi's in the cypher. Switches screen? Yeah. Yo, fam, what if they- Brandi's in the cypher. Atlanta's open. I don't think she should just do this in Atlanta.

All right, so they have- So they have- What do they have, singing cyphers now? Probably. That appears what it looks to be. Probably. I mean, even though her does kind of do her rap thing every now and then, and we know Tiana can rap too, but Brandi-

Brandi can rap. I don't know. Maybe Joe Ghost wrote or something. I don't know that. That's true. I ain't even, come on Joe, I see you working. City girls performers, eh? Punch drunk when the brand.

Oh my God. I knew where you was about to take that too. I knew exactly what you was thinking. I am so corny. I don't care though. Y'all won't rap. Fuck it. All right, who's this guy?

Listen, I don't want to spend time on this. Shout out to all the nominees. Shout out to all the winners. Hopefully it was a great show and y'all enjoyed it. I'm going to watch. Me too. I think we should support all BET Awards, BET Hip Hop Awards. If there's still time, vote for us.

There's not time, so. There's no time. If you're hearing this now, it Hip Hop Awards. Yeah. If there's still time, vote for us. There's not time, so. No, there's no time. If you're hearing this now, it's too late. But yeah, it is. We should support black culture and anybody still trying to create shows in this pandemic as best they can. And, you know, some of them have done a great job so far with the virtual shows. Absolutely.

I want to see what BET has for us. Yeah. What fit would you have given them if we actually went, did the red carpet? Oh, no. I would have gave them something crazy, though. You know that. You know how for us. Yeah. What fit would you have given him if we actually went to the red carpet? Oh, no. I would have gave him something crazy, though. You know that. You know how to put it on.

I'd probably give him some black on black with some Pumas. You got to get midnight black, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not oxtail black. Yeah, that's a fact.

Oxtail black. Anyways, moving forward. Oxtail black. You know what I'm talking about, though. That's why you laugh because you know when that shit be in a pan. You know what I'm talking about That's why you laughing Cause you

You know when that shit Be in the pan You know what I'm talking about Yeah You know what I'm talking about Joe I have no idea What y'all talking about I'm just talking about

The black that Parks Was wearing I shut up When I don't know What y'all talking about No we talking about Cause Parks has different Blacks that he throws on

Yeah So it's like I tell him Give him midnight black For the red carpet Yeah The blacks the blacks I'm sure whatever he donned would look great

Absolutely Did I use that word correctly? Yeah Anyways Should we get into your man? Let's do it Your MAGA man? Let's do it

Did you guys watch the Joe Rogan and Kanye West Three hour interview I watched half of it I couldn't watch Three hours of this I watched most of it Yeah Yeah I couldn't watch

Three hours I watched the full thing It took me a couple days Oh you Okay you broke it down I thought I was gonna do that But I didn't I watched about half of it

Had to go back And refresh where I was at And all that shit But It was interesting To say the least yeah uh we can start with some love and then we can get to the hate after i mean for what do we what do we hear that we didn't already know or didn't already hear kanye talk from what i saw

not a lot right a lot of ideas a lot of ideas he's always got a lot of ideas so A lot of ideas. He's always got a lot of ideas. My brain doesn't even have the retention capabilities to retain everything that was said. He said a lot, and a lot of it he said before. Right. But he just... Like, I get it with Kanye. The way that he speaks and the miscellaneous random facts that he'll bring up and how he intertwines history into whatever he's saying. And he does all of this while seemingly never acknowledging the present at all. It's almost always the future.

Yeah, he's always thinking ahead. Like, I can hear how his brain works and it's fascinating to me well connie is brilliant yeah he's a brilliant dude um just sometimes that brilliance is i don't think projected in the right way for most of society like i think what makes sense in his head he doesn't articulate the best sometimes yeah and i relate to that i do yeah i i'm not saying that's a fault of his yeah but i just think a lot he gets misunderstood with certain things if you don't really analyze the simple surface thing that he does say because it can come off wrong yeah you're right but let's move that to the side. What I also thought looking at this was the way that he does indeed understand black plight and our history here. Again, is why it's confusing when we saw all of that TMZ, MAGA, MAGA, MAGA.

Remember I was coming in here saying, yo, how could the guy that made college dropout think like this? And this interview, I did say that. I said, oh, so it's him. He gets it. He gets some of this stuff. Well, he's been saying those things. I mean, before he went on the Slavery Was a Choice Trump rant years, he was very vocal about these exact things he's saying his entire career, even when they were taboo to say from a rapper. So, yeah, I do believe kanye really

believes those things again i think he's projecting new ideas in in a way that isn't really digestible to people that just hear words like slavery was a choice because he's not properly articulating what his actual thought is and most of his thoughts are brilliant yeah i think it's also uh because he's so passionate um you know when passionate creative people and thinkers uh when they speak sometimes it rubs people the wrong way just because people are not able to comprehend their level of thinking but then years later you'll see what he was thinking come to fruition you're like oh genius yeah i mean with kanye though like you, I still stand by the disdain I did have for a lot of his actions over the past year and some change. But I think why that was so dangerous is because Kanye has such amazing thoughts that he doesn't say correctly.

It's dangerous when you start talking in that world. Like, it's dangerous when you start talking in that world like it's cool you can be passionate and you can say all these crazy but great thoughts to the world but once you start entering something that affects people's lives and puts them in danger to some degree that's where you need to articulate your thoughts completely you can't just have random outbursts you have to say things when they affect people's actual lives that way with the influence that he does have. Yeah, you have to articulate those better. The reason why it never, a lot of things that Kanye, you know, I chalked up a lot of things to mental health and him still grieving over the loss of his mom. Like, you know, when you have that, the scope that he has on him, it's hard to be correct all the time, every day.

Like that, nobody can do that so a lot of the things that kanye says it never really bothered me because i know that i know that kanye is not an evil spirited person he's not a bad-hearted person he doesn't want to bring harm to anybody right so when you know that people are genuinely good people when they say things sometimes that you may don't like or don't agree with you can kind of just let it go because he's like all right i know he's not a bad person i know that he doesn't mean harm to anybody he's just talking and maybe he didn't flush his thoughts through thoroughly he didn't project them thoroughly and that's okay because it's like you know we can't expect everybody to say all the right things all the time yeah but

just knowing that he has where his heart is and where his mind is and what he sees for people and what he sees for creatives and the things that he's trying to create and the platforms he's trying to create for creatives. You know that he has a vision that maybe we just don't understand because that's his vision. And sometimes you don't understand people's visions and that's fine. That doesn't mean you start hating someone or not liking someone just because you don't understand their thoughts or what they see. But yeah, this interview was just, from what I saw, it was just Kanye basically trying to answer what people he heard, saw people thinking about him, saying about him. What is he doing?

What does he have going on? What does he mean when he says this? What does he mean when he does this? And I think this was just more of that, just putting it out there, what his plans are, what his ideas are, and what he sees for the future. From what I saw, which wasn't much, I need a footnotes or I need Screen Man to just have Google ready right there to pull up some shit. Because he was covering a lot of different bases that I'm not educated on. I had to stop a few times and look shit up to fully grasp what he was saying.

I'd like to watch it again as well. look shit up. You need to fully grasp what he's saying. I'd like to watch it again as well. But I mean, Mal, to what you were saying about Kanye's thoughts throughout this interview is kind of my only problem with it.

I didn't want Joe Rogan to get in there and like berate him or like OD try to challenge him too much or like get into an argument. I wasn't looking for that but I was looking for Rogan to try to question some of the things that Kanye was saying so he can go deeper and explain them better and I think Rogan's really good at that so that's why I was excited for this so when when Kanye goes on these Kanye passion rants that make so much sense in his head it'd be nice if Rogan kind of stopped on certain points and had him dig a little deeper in what he was trying to say.

And I felt like Rogan kind of sat back too much. The only time he really went to that place was when he kept asking him, all right, what is your actual policies for the presidential thing? And even then when Kanye tried to explain that, Rogan kind of just let him off the hook off what he said. And again, I wasn't looking for him to argue him down on everything. Right, not good what you mean. But just to really pull some more things out of him because his brain is so complex. Yeah, I get it. That was kind of my issue from the Rogan side of it because I knowe rogan is so good at that and does that with every

single interview some of the things kanye said about you know the presidential thing and not maybe on this one but when we heard him do his his town hall before i like some of his ideas the whole agriculture thing teaching kids how to farm and how to sure like i i like that yeah like i to me that was like oh yeah this is i absolutely would implement this in schools or somehow teach kids from young how to farm and how to learn how to be resourceful themselves like i things like that i like some of the other things is a little too you know out of there for me but things like that is i'm not mad at if that's some of your thinking and i would like to see that actually happen i mean here's the thing i don't think kanye west should be president but i'm not mad at all at having someone like him or him in some type of position that has impact on our country politically well not in a presidential type space but yeah i thought him talk about

the farming stuff is is much needed i'm not even mad i'm not i'm not by any means uh supporting kanye as a presidential candidate at least not right now but similar to how and i'm not comparing these two gentlemen you need people to bring ideas to the table but the same way bernie sanders brought ideas to the table right no i might not ever be president right unfortunately in bernie's case but you need people to bring ideas no ideas and that way it's kanye put it with the bring ideas to the table no ideas and that way Kanye put it with the visionary thing I know that becomes cliche

and people kind of make fun of it but yeah I think you need visionaries in certain roles for our country that will think of things that aren't the actual norm

because clearly the norm is not working and it hasn't been working for quite some time visionaries are not to be held down by man made titles and infrastructures

I think Kanye I think Kanye and I I'm never supporting Kanye being the president, nor would I ever vote for him. But I think he would just be tied down by that position. I do not think he would be able to accomplish all that I think he could accomplish if he had the spot. I't yeah probably right there but I still think in a position you can put there rather than I mean I guess position and title are somewhat of the same now his ideas those yeah person in put in a position of power that can really get things done. Kanye just sees greater.

He sees his vision is broader, like further, goes further than most people. It's one thing to know that because we've said that about Kanye a few times, but it's a whole nother thing to actually submit to that thought. My mom tells me that all the time like when when her and i talk she says oh you my brain can't see that like you see further than my brain is here and kanye that's how i feel about him that's been his whole career yeah you need younger minds i think you need younger minds You need... That's a big problem with politics.

Yeah, I think you need younger minds. This presidential candidate specifically. Yeah, new ways of thinking, new ways of seeing the world. I hate his mustache. Kanye's?

Yeah. I love his accent. Like, when you get to a certain amount of money in life, you start talking like you're British. You forget Kanye's. I'm British. You forget Kanye's from Chicago.

He sounds like a Beatle now. You forget he's from Chicago. He doesn't sound like he's from Chicago, does he? He's worldly now. Yeah. Do you think he has an accent for real?

Absolutely. He's talked this way for a while, though. He's had money for a while. Is there an accent, though? I didn't really pick up an accent. I didn't hear it, really.

Annunciation, maybe. It's a very, quote- very quote unquote proper way to speak. I can see him sounding a little John Lennon-ish now that. Yeah, it's a little Lennon. Lord brings it up. A little McCartney. But that mustache, it comes from when you have a lot of money. You just start getting creative.

I tell you when you get a certain amount of money, you go to the barber. Yo, don't make the goatee connect. Yeah. Make it. Yo, unconnect this. Cut just right by my chin. What the fuck is going on? Unconnect this. Yo, fuck me this. Cut just right by my chin. What the fuck is going on? Unconnect this.

Yo, fuck me up right here? I'm going for the patchy look. Yeah, yeah. This interview did eight million in like two days. Wow. And somehow the culture skipped it. I didn't see a lot in the timeline, honestly. Minimal, come on, minimal, be honest.

Because so much of the timeline is reactions to end time type of shit, and this was three hours. It's hard to digest that and react to it. Yeah, we're off of getting news from the timeline, right, just so we're clear. It's certain news. We still need a timeline for certain things, though. But it's not as informative as it once was.

Just because you got your little chat room. Chatter, chatter. Chatter. I don't use Twitter anymore. What is Twitter? You can't get information from Twitter anymore. Just use the house on your phone. Your chatter chat house.

Yo, let me just tell you you 21 Savage is in here Dropping gems He's like In clubhouse He's a doctor in real life He's British too I had enough of these rappers British too

Yeah The coach will let that one go When we found out he was British We let that one go quick Like oh he's not British And he believes his dad is a doctor right Oh is that so Yeah I believe

21 Savage's father is a doctor, right? Oh, is that so? Yeah, I believe 21 Savage's father is a doctor. He was dropping gems on co-parenting and race. Like, that nigga's a doctor. With a British accent? No, he doesn't have a British accent. He will soon, though. He doesn't have the I met Elon Musk accent. It's coming, though, when he meets Elon.

Elon is what I believe they call him. Once you get to that status. Me and Guap Dad are besties. He's smart too, though. He's a really intelligent dude. He makes dope music. That's why I brought it up. Yeah, he's a really intelligent dude.

Because he's really, really, really intelligent. And I would have never, I was so taken aback that I interrupted. I was like, yo, man, you're a real smart guy. How you come up with that name? Like, for real,

I'm judging these guys by their names and... He might be a father and he has money. There it is. Put two and two together. Bright guys. Or maybe he's the father

of money. We don't know. See, I didn't even put it... Now, Paul's gonna give it to... You can't even understand how he came up with that. Why don't you start talking British?

Yeah, I should start talking British. In it. In British. In it. In it. In it. Well, what else happens on your clubhouse? We don't care about it.

I don't think he's going to do a deep dive. You on there too, nigga. I've been on there one night out of having it for a month. Roy was in there shaking it up. Yeah? I was shaking it up a little bit. I gave him one night

in front of the fireplace. Oh, that's what you're doing with the whiskey in the wood outside? But it's only audio though, right? Yeah, only audio. Okay. Yeah, they couldn't see the fire. They could hear it though. Like, what are you doing over there?

I was just building a fire. Sam going to kill his ass. She going to kill him. They going to hear it. I popped in that room, Roy, and I ain't even worried about engagement. No, what he was doing. He was going to hear it. I popped in that room, Roy, and I ain't worried about engagement. No, what he was doing. He was engaging the chat room.

In the chat room. At that time, I think Joe popped in there around 5 a.m. when he woke up. When I woke up. And I was drunk and quiet at that time. I was just trying to add people to speak off Abby's. I got to learn how to navigate.

See, I don't know how to do nothing on that shit. You didn't pull a lube and tubing? No, not off the voice. I got to learn how to navigate See I don't know how to do nothing on that shit You didn't pull a lube and tubing? No Not off the voice I gotta learn how to navigate that shit You do Like whoa

I gotta fuck with it I gotta fuck with it some more I don't know what I'm doing I can leave your voice up While the porn is on You gotta get creative Yeah Alright no

It's cool more I should've listened to Joe It's the right rooms I went on there When I first got I was like This is the worst thing I'm trying to speak

To less people I'm still not great enough I haven't got the invite Me and EB I mean Me and EB I mean Me and them

All my friends are on there And they don't send me an invite It's fucked up I'll send you one I don't even know I really don't know How to navigate that shit I don't know what I'm doing

On that shit Maul's rooms are gonna be sick Why? I just know they are. Nah, man. That app is made for mall. Without question. That is a mall.

I think he's probably on it a lot and just not telling us. No, I've been on once. Mall's going to have a room and not say a word? No, the first night I was on there, I was like, what is this? He's going to have mad words there. I just didn't know how to navigate that shit. I didn't know what the fuck to do. All right, well, we were talking about something important, thought before we got you did you like his Easter egg hunting hoodie oh no see

no I'm not doing this with you sure is that a future all day long I was talking about this video receiving so many views and the culture not talking about it yeah that's odd that was odd well this is audience watching this but it's Kanye still yeah but it's Kanye introducing himself to an audience that may not be too familiar with him and we already know Kanye we love him we supported him we champion him and we put him where he's at today I expected to see this double the amount of times I saw uh talk about August Alsino on Red Table Talk. And it was quiet.

Almost like somebody was, almost like it was being suppressed. Nah, it was just too long form without the little clips. There's no spice, right? That you can headline and do the clickbait shit. Yeah, August Alsino

sitting there for 30 seconds being like, yeah, nah, I fucked, is going to do way more on a timeline than a three-hour interview that is based did he bring up anything about birkin bags or cheating fuck no no oh well there you ain't not talking about none of that stupid shit but you know he did say something interesting he was like you got your first sound soundbite and like after an hour something kanye said like jokingly like that's probably the first thing I said that you can take a clip

and that will go viral so I don't even think this was that type of interview where he was up there just saying wild outlandish shit it wasn't the salacious yeah it wasn't that

everything ain't timeline but I don't subscribe to things having to be salacious to gain traction on the internet I don't but that's the new world that's the internet that's not the whole internet, though.

We're talking about specifically the timeline. No, not the timeline. We're talking about it. The timeline is... Y'all keep bringing that up. You brought up August Alsina. I'm not just... That was the most salacious

clickbait shit ever. Okay, but it transcended your timeline is what I'm saying. Y'all keep introducing the timeline and I keep saying... That's what you said. No, I didn't. Y'all said it and I questioned it. Well's because he said something i feel like it's been it's being

suppressed and i'm not talking about people on a timeline any news outlet anybody should be talking about and i just didn't see it i think it's deeper than he didn't say anything salacious because if i'm a clickbait nigga he did say mad shit where i could clip it and it could be taken out of context and it's kanye and it's rogan so it'll get numbers they've transcended that they're not in the hey we need to do fuck shit to get numbers game no neither of them so then what are we talking about we're talking about the audience yeah the audience no they they did what they both do yeah which is intelligent shit this is just a long form non-sliced up thing that news outlets, even the credible ones,

survive on right now. Like they do it in politics. They're not going to sit here and slice up something that isn't really going to get numbers the way they want them to. They want the easy, you know,

Well, 20,000 people gave this a thumbs down if y'all were wondering i wasn't but i wasn't but got it um while we're on this complex reports union of musicians and allied workers demands equity with justice at spotify initiative wonder what justice at spotify could be about. Oh, come on, you guys. Oh, fuck y'all. That was a funny. Justice at Spotify.

Look, the fight continues. The marathon continues. Look. See? Justice is not.0037 cents. Who's reporting this? Complex. Oh, what do you know?

Isn't that a funny? Look at all your old exes workers in the music industry have banded together to demand better treatment from spotify the union of musicians and allied workers has created the justice at spotify campaign to push for radical changes to the streamers business model the group of musicians, DJs, producers, road crew, and others aims to collectively take resources and power from the few wealthy companies that dictate our industry. So far, the petition has garnered over

6,750 signatures from industry workers. We're going to need a whole lot more than that. Hey, why'd you even publish this? Get a million signatures. Sorry. 6,000 signatures.

We're not giving you your money now. 6,000. Fair enough. The UMAW Collective lists a number of demands for Spotify. The group wants a per stream royalty rate of at least one cent. Okay. With payments sent through a user-centric payment model. Good luck.

More transparency in closed door contracts and label deals. See, they listen to me. Removing payola or pay-to-play schemes used for the streamer's curated playlists. Credit everyone involved in recordings. Yes. Oh, I support that. That's me we need credit sounds title it's the only one really doing it right and terminating legal battles

aimed at artists at the moment the company doesn't pay royalties through a purse stream out oh blah blah blah you see the vibes you see what's going on there the fight continues yeah yeah pretty much I mean people just they starting to get hip yeah they're tired of shit yeah starting to learn more and they're saying this is bullshit mm-hmm so it can only be signed by industry workers I don't know it's a good question at this point they need to take that shit just up the street and get any signature they can't get a million Listeners, anybody that streams and listens to music on Spotify should be able to sign it. I'm going to find that petition though and post it.

Yeah, I think that's important. It is important. Very important. I agree. It does suck that Tidal's marketing plan when they first announced it was just done incorrectly, which they've admitted to. Because this is what they were saying when they brought all those was just done incorrectly which they've admitted to because this is what they were saying when they brought all those artists on stage and was like hey we're not

doing this anymore right we're going to come together and make sure all of us are compensated for the work that we do yeah but just the consumer saw a bunch of rich people on stage talking about some shit they didn't even know about and was like, sorry guys, I have to go to work. Yeah. We need credits on every DSP. Easily accessible credits. Absolutely. It's unbelievable

that it's not a thing. And I can't believe that the industry in general is not fighting for that because all of the people like myself and musicians and songwriters

and producers, this is how we make a living. It's by people saying, oh, who did this record? Oh, he did this record. Okay, let me find him on whatever and get ahold of him to do my record. Absolutely.

And the fact that it's not readily available on any of the platforms except for Tidal and Spotify has very limited credits is disgusting. And not only that, a good engineer is very important to an artist in his session or her session. So that's something that should already be a thing.

I can't even believe they're still fighting for shit like that. Yeah. What do you gentlemen think, and this is a pivot, what do you gentlemen think is or has been the most impactful project in the last 15 years? Music project? Yeah. What was 15? 2005. What was 15 be?

2005. The most impactful project. 13 years. I don't care. Whatever. So Far Gone would be on the short list. And that's my answer. Dark, Beautiful, Twisted Fantasy

would be on the short list. 808 and Heartbreak is up there. Good Kid, Mad City. Good Kid, Mad City would be on the short list. 808 and heartbreaks is up there 808 good kid mad city good kid mad city will be on the short list yeah 808 and heartbreak i think uh when that came out that was like i mean that would be the one that changed the sound that we have now when did trap music come up was that 05 somewhere around 06 maybe yeah 2005 2006 2006. That would be on the short list. Those are some of the albums for sure.

It's funny you asked that when the trap music come out because that's one of the questions I asked when trying to figure this out. And that led me to how long it takes me, or how long it's taken me in the past to warm up to... That was 2003. To culture in other regions like trap um like uh houston with the um it took me a little while with that uh well for the chopped and screwed thing i think

you would have to really spend time in texas houston in particular to really understand that it's true yes and no because it's transcended to no it's transcended but to really understand it sure yeah i think you would i had to go to houston to get the full experience yeah of that it's a it's a lifestyle it's a feeling yeah um shit uh when Everybody in Philly was coming out, it took me a second to get used to how they rap, the voices. Same with St. Louis. Yeah. And then I just went across all of it and like, damn,

it took me a little while to warm up to everything that I hadn't experienced. Yeah. And I just thought that was a pretty good opening. I think that's a pretty general life experience. Yeah, but it's so fucked up in music, though. Because in music, it should be, you hear that, how does it sound to you? Yeah. But it's so much more that goes into the culture, wherever the culture is.

On that list, too, and I don't think the album maybe had the impact, but whatever Future's first album was, because a lot of people have taken the, I can't really sing, but I'm going to sing, sort of rapping, auto-tune thing. Yeah. He was a big part of that. Yeah, but not in the same way.

Not in the same way. It's a different sound. Yeah, it's still melodic, but there's a different, I guess the word trap. It's like trap, 808s, and heartbreaks. Trap is really just, what, drums? like the drum pattern uh the bass yeah like that's just the difference in the significant difference in trap and regular hip-hop or yeah you know dc gogo oh yeah that's yeah but that's something you like if you witness that live it changes your entire ear for go-go music

like you listen to it differently after you see it live yeah it's more of a life you think with the internet a lot of what we're talking about with the feeling of certain regions has changed and blurred a bit i think i definitely think it still exists but i think with the internet a lot of people are starting to talk the same a lot of influences are not so much coming from where you grow up but rather what you see and like on the internet the internet is allowing for regions to borrow from other regions without without actually bringing them together which is why the internet is a beautiful thing because there's a lot of cultures and sounds we probably wouldn't understand like if we didn't have the internet but i mean i do kind of

miss that though of more regional yeah like really finding out about a region and like fully trying to understand it from the outside looking in like i thought that was a really dope part of my upbringing yeah when it came to music oh this is what y'all are doing in st louis right kanye was a proponent of intermingling that stuff early. He was rapping with a drawl that was a southern drawl. And Chicago accent

kind of has a little bit of that, but he was putting a little extra sauce on it. Sure. Drake, too. Mm-hmm. In a more recent example. 50 when he got shot in the face

was rapping like he was from the South. Yeah. Like, my first few times in Detroit, every club we went to, like they sped every song up damn near. Yeah, different BGM. Yeah.

And it was really annoying to me, like my first two times there. And then I'd ask somebody about it. It's like, no, that's what we do. Yeah. No, we'll take. Any record. Yeah. And just speed that shit all the way up.

Yeah. And then if you hear it a certain amount of times, it's funny how the brain just could play tricks. If you hear that enough... You get it. It seems normal. Well, it makes the regular version seem weird. Yeah.

But I was only mad because it was playing like one of my songs, like in the Detroit BPM. They pumped up, pumped it up. No, no, it was like, She Don't Put It Down or something that... Shouldn't, you would think to do that. Your brain never programmed it. The greatness in it is if you make it slower.m. Pump it up. No, no. It was like, she don't put it down or something that shouldn't be. You would think you do that.

Your brain never programmed it. The greatness in it is if you make it slower. Right. Not faster, but fuck it. I understand.

Shout out to all my Detroit people. But I mean, that was also too with like Baltimore and Jersey too with club music. Making house versions

of everything. That blew my fucking mind when I found out about that shit. And that was right around the time I was really going outside to party and shit. And it was women. I miss that part that the internet has kind of ruined.

Really discovering shit in person. Like, holy shit, what is this world? I miss mix show records. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's my favorite type of music. It's over. It's over now. Streaming has killed

the mix show record well actually I'm not gonna blame that on streaming the fucking radio programmers killed mix show yeah

well yeah for sure except for on Sirius and places where they still do mix show streaming finished it streaming came and

choked all the rest of the life out of it and that was a tangent what is the new mix show record for the people that don't know mix show records it was kind of like the street single you put out of it. And that was a tangent. What is the new Mixed Show record? For the people that don't know Mixed Show records, it was kind of like the street single you put out

to just remind people that you're coming before you put out your actual radio single. Yeah, usually somewhat up-tempo, but not pop-up tempo. And you typically rapped a little bit more on it than you would on an actual single. What is that now? An IG video?

What is the new Mixed Show record? I don't know. A skit the game is totally different it's a playlist record now yeah playlists are everything now yeah but these niggas

can't get on the playlist well yeah unless they pay a lot of people have that's the new pay order yeah it's all the same it's all connections

and me being such a dinosaur I didn't realize how big of a deal that was until artists started really spazzing about them being banned from these playlists.

When Tekashi was screaming about it, he looked like that hurt his feelings. Tory looked like it hurt his feelings. A few other people had to, hey, I'm not on these playlists. That's really important here. That's the new radio. The main consumer of music is the casual fan that doesn't

want to go through a rabbit hole to find new music. They want to go to your popular playlist. That's where you get the numbers. Look who's running hip hop playlists and TikTok. That's insane. I don't get why people don't like looking for new music. But as opposed to what?

Viacom and MS Communications. But I have records. I've come from that. I've come from listening to random weird shit. That's what it is. We come from that. Finding a record. Having to actually go and find the cd and so looking for something that people don't have yeah like i love finding new artists on the internet like that to me is like

super dope and i play and people like who the fuck is that i'm like i have no idea some kid i just found but to me i come from that like you used to go to the to uh virgin mega store and put the the headphones on and stand there for two hours just hitting different shit like I was doing that. Because you only had $12 so you could only get one CD. Exactly. I'm going to sit here

and find one. Now you buy the tape. You buy two tapes because that was the cost of one CD. That was my move. Times have changed. Yep.

Yeah. That's a good tangent. And I miss posters. Remember getting posters at the CD store? That was my shit. No. Loser. I love a good tangent. And I miss posters. Remember getting posters at the CD store? That was my shit. No, losers. I love a good poster.

A good poster was... Y'all are fucking losers. No, a good poster was important. I've been talking about that. That was important. You didn't have posters on you at all? That I went to a tape store

and purchased? No. Where'd you get the poster then? Well, I took out a magazine. I took out a magazine. I'm from the magazine era. Okay. Well, I mean,

even I'm from the magazine era. No, you're not from the magazine era. I mean, even I'm from the magazine era. No, you're not from the magazine era where they were doing their build. Damn, Joey, you don't have to tell me the era. I'm from the magazine era. What are you talking about? These young fucks get so defensive. I'm talking about right on, Rory.

You weren't born. That was the only magazine. That was the magazine that was mostly posters. Not for nothing. The source was definitely trash by the time you were... No, I wasn't super trash. XXL was really dope when I was a teenager. And it wasn't just posters. We ripped the shit

out of the actual magazine and put it up. What I'm trying to educate you on is that magazines back then were predicated on the poster. You would only buy it if you liked the poster. I get it. I did the same shit with Slam Magazine. You would only buy it if you liked the poster. You fold down, man. I get it. The centerfold shit. You wouldn't buy it if you didn't like the poster.

I did the same shit with Slam Magazine. Yeah, no, no, no. You definitely were, but like right on? No. No, I was too young for that. What age was niggas doing this at the cassette store? At Virgin Megastore? Maybe I was just getting high.

They would have the little poster action. Yeah, the shit you would flip through. You were not doing that in 2002, 2003. No, I wasn't. I wasn't. Rory was, though. I definitely was. I was doing that in the 90s, though.

I was young. I was like 14, 15. This was like 95, 96 when I was doing that. Even younger than that. I had posters on my wall since 91, maybe. That you bought, though? Yeah. I don't know why I'm so amazed by that.

Yeah, absolutely. I would only buy it. You would go to the store, and you would look at the magazine. You couldn't unfold the whole poster. But you could see pieces of them like, oh, this is a dope. And you would take it out. You'd be like, I'm buying this magazine. You go home, because it was stapled.

You had to do it carefully, or you would rip the whole poster. Right. I'm from that. You was good at that. Yeah, I'm from that. I fucked so many posters. Oh, absolutely. No, I'm from that.

But then you got hip and got a razor. Exactly. By my era, they showed, and you could just flip through. Well, no, they had that, too. They had that, no. That was fine. But then he got hip and got a razor. Exactly. By my era, they showed, and you could just flip through. Well, no, they had that too. They had that too. They had the rack, and they had the little tubes underneath it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he would steal them.

That's the real poster. I'm talking about the magazine for the poster. That's different. I used to be so mad. I'd rip my salt and pepper poster right at the cooch. Oh, my God. At the cooch. Look what he was mad at, though.

I mean, I ripped it. The stable was too tight right there. He caught it at the cooch. Come on, man. I'm such a Pepper fan. I love Pepper. She looks great still, by the way. Peppers look great in my entire life.

My whole life, Peppers look great. I don't care what y'all say about me. The boy is coming. The boy is coming. The boy is coming. He is. Or so it seems that way. January 2021. The lover boy.

Certified. Certified lover boy. Can I just did... I have to admit my fandom. I caught myself and felt really weird afterwards. You got the heart part? No, I thought about it there. My hairline is not that good.

Rory, if you would have came in here with a heart in your head just know that would have been the greatest show ever that would have been the greatest episode you're trying to say i couldn't pull it off no you can definitely pull it off 1000 but i would have been crying no we need that the heart part yo i would have the heart part is hilarious you don't think you don't think it's funny that people think that you could potentially get the hard part no i think that's fire yeah and the hard part. No, I think that's fire. Yeah. And the Irish heart. Yeah.

Joe, I pulled off the slits in the eyebrows. I pulled everything off. So do the hard part. No, you can't do it. No, no, no. I'm not even letting Rory go. I'm 30. No, you can't do that. No.

No, do it, Rory. If Drake didn't do it, then I'd be like, okay, get it off. But if you're 30 and you're it on your beard put it on your beard the heart beard now I gotta do remember when Prince brought his shit down like

see I can do it with the heart got slave on his face there you go that's not what I was referring to no I'm just I know that's not what you

I don't think Roy should do that personally no I know but Prince definitely got slave like I thought I'd stop listening when he put him and Prince in the same thing. Don't you dare. I don't know what he's saying.

It's the purple one versus the red, pink one. Oh, man. Red Rain. Red Rain. I'm not buying that single. No. Ginger Rain. Do y'all have any

serious takes about like the biggest artists of our time I was gonna with an album coming I was gonna admit a fault of mine of how excited I got

thinking this album was coming when he posted it I was like oh we get a Drake album tonight and then I caught myself I was like wow you're let it go

Shayvon leave it there fuck you yo Shayvon who are you flagging for that's the part I'm still confused about and the little podcast summary Go, Savon. Leave it there. Fuck you, man. Yo, Savon, who are you flagging for? That's the part I'm still confused about. And the little podcast summary is getting shorter and shorter.

The time stamps. Yo, honestly, what are you doing? If you think I'm sleeping, don't notice you have me fucked up. Yo, have y'all been peeping his time stamps? No. Yo, the fella said, what's up at five. Hey, then at 72, they brought up the verses. Yo, sleepers, sleepers,

sleepers at the end. They was up at five. Yo, what are you, honestly, you're going to get fired. Oh, man, that's a funny shit, Tavon.

Look, this is the only place where you tell somebody they're going to get fired and they smile at you and not just nod. Yeah, I know, I know. Yeah, all right.

I know. That is what he just did, right? Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah, but when is this? January? January 2021. Yes, you guys. More great music.

He ain't missed yet. Number one pod. Yeah. I mean, we don't have, we don't have any music. We don't have no music to talk about. The Kings.

He got a ninja hoodie on. Yeah. He got a ninja hoodie on. Yeah, he got a ninja hoodie on. Here's our Drake takeaway. More great music to come. Yeah, that's what we got. I think Drake is going to give us some good music. Change the game again. Yeah.

I mean, we have no music to go off of, but we can assume that this is going to be more good music, at least. And that's it. We don't have no music. We can't really talk about it. I'm not going to uh and the animated album covers that he did over i thought the uh i thought that was a good idea i thought it was dope it was dope for the video but like

you know what i ripped it from hove but i'm just a whole venture yeah remember when uh hove did the commercial i forgot who it was for uh where he did all his album covers and one that was dope but not i like what they did On this trailer Yeah me too For sure It gave you It did what you wanted it to do

It left you Suspenseful Like oh shit The album's coming But not the night That I thought it was It's a long Rollout though

It's pretty interesting Nah not really I remember it was rumored That he was coming in December Yeah And he pushed him off Right Yeah Yeah but to announce January In October I remember it was rumored that he was coming in December. Yeah. And he pushed him off. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, but to announce January in October. Yeah, for Drake, that's a pretty long. Yeah, I feel like he's had a couple quick drops. Several. Very much so, yeah. When the world was functioning? Sure. Well, yeah, absolutely.

And I was going to say, now it's even crazy that Drake is like, yeah, fuck this year. I'm not putting music out You think he's starting Something new with like The top of the year The bigger acts You think they'll follow What do you mean

You think more bigger acts Will drop Top of the year Cause usually bigger acts Drop end of the year I mean yeah I think people are making Music now

I think they're gonna have to Look at the Landscape That's why I hate This fucking podcast That's right there What more just did I got attacked

months ago mad months ago when I was like I think Drake and Cole these niggas coming at the same time top of the year and I think they're

looking at each other I think I set the fuck up you know shit I don't think we said that we said that to you? I don't

we've actually only all been talking about Cole, Kendrick and Drake dropping at the same time this year oh whatever go ahead but they're Cole, Kendrick, and Drake dropping at the same time this year. Well, yeah, the fans don't always mention that. Oh, whatever. Go ahead. But they're still saying Kendrick is dropping in 2020.

Not like just what I'm seeing with, he's outside doing this video. He's over here with this artist. Like, they're alluding to that. I think Kendrick is dropping in 2020. I don't know. I don't know. I think he is. I think everyone is holding off until they can tour.

Deductive reasoning tells me that this Drake album is going to be incredible. Like, yes, I haven't heard any new music, but I've heard all them leaks. Some of them leaks I liked a lot. I heard, what was the last shit? Care Package Fantasy. What's the name of that fucking shit he put out? Care Package Fantasy? Dark Lane Demo Tapes. Yeah, whatever.

Close enough, yes. My Beautiful Demo Tapes. Yeah, he's got... No, he had a Care Package that he dropped. He had Care Package and Demo Lanes Road. Whatever that is. Dark Lane Demo Tapes. I'm just saying, I like some of the shit on there, too.

And I think he was just cleaning out the stash. So if I like that music that sounded like that when he was cleaning out the stash so if i like that music that sounded like that when he was cleaning out the stash i i have i have high expectations for this project and i get it set myself up but i'm doing it yeah that's that's a pretty good and i also think that the fact that he uh he's had more time well we've all been gifted more time with this pandemic to sit still and kind of and if you're a writer yeah if you're a creator, I mean, you know what I mean? You have access to your studio whenever you want. I can only assume that Drake has had more time to write and listen to music

and create music with his team. And that is where spooky hours come in. Because he announced this album, and there's no big Drake single out yet, right? Well, there is. I don't know what's been. The Laugh Now

Cry Later joint. I'm probably saying the name wrong. I do love that record. Yeah, Laugh Now Cry Later. I think had we been outside, that record would be

insane because it's one of those. I know. It's just we're all inside. It's a really, really good outside record. I don't think that Homeboy and his team leave anything to chance.

I agree with you. I think that now a big record, because you know a big record is coming all the time. So now he got with his team in the little science lab and a record. So call 40's House of Science. That's what you call a studio now now that's how long you've been retired

a record your little recording area but no I'm not talking about a studio I told y'all I'm documenting this podcast and saying I think that he

and his team are very scientific with how they construct some of this stuff the planning of some of this stuff very calculated yeah he's been this whole career so I think a song is coming about how they construct some of this stuff, the planning of some of this stuff. Very calculated.

Yeah, yeah. He's been this whole career. So I think a song is coming about you being home in the pandemic, hungry, fucking... I think a song like that is coming. Oh shit, how did he know? How did he know I was like this right now? He just tapped into what I was feeling.

One of those is coming. That is actually the definition in a sentence of Drake's career. How did he know I felt this way? He's really good at that.

Yeah, he is. How did he know that? Yeah, I just can't wait to hear it. I can't wait to hear it. That's it. Listen, I would love with the title of Certified Lover Boy,

I would love if it was literally just straight raps of like 6 p.m. in New York and just called it Certified Loverboy, I would love if it was literally just straight raps of like 6 p.m. in New York and just called it Certified Loverboy over him just rapping crazy for 10 records. I would always like that from Drake. I want to hear some crooning. Yeah.

I need some R&B. Yeah. This winter? Yeah. Yeah, I need some crooning this winter. Kid Cudi Man on Moon 3 is coming. He announced that one as well. I didn't see that.

Drake announced that? Yeah. No, Cutty announced that. Drake announcing Cutty's album would be mad funny. That is funny. Yo, Cut, you want me to give the world this one? Hopefully. I don't think he put a date to it, but hopefully he links back up with Emil

because that was the best Cuddy we ever got. For sure. For sure. Shout out to Emil. All right, well, we need a date, Cuddy. That's all you got, Bob, Rory? I'm sitting here quiet so you can get on your Cuddy shit. Rory is in the Cuddy hive.

It doesn't seem like it right now. I've said this plenty of times. I'm not really a Cudi fan like that. I just don't let y'all disrespect his influence on music now. I'm not really the big Cudi guy. I love that first album. His first album was insane.

First album was really good, but I would never disrespect Cudi. A lot of the stuff that he put out after that first one I'm sick of Rory. was like, just not it. You want to see something?

He doesn't have any Cudi in his Serato. You want to see something? I go hard because y'all disrespect him too much. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not accusing you of having Matt Cudi in your Serato, unbeknownst to me. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

There's nothing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Takes up the whole screen. Takes up the whole screen right there. I'm trying to scroll up. There's three projects with zero plays on one of them. And the other one is Man on the Moon. I just want to tell y'all,

and I'm not talking about Cudi anymore. Uh-oh. Here comes some hate. No, I'm just saying, y'all. You hate Cudi for some reason. Every time this comes up, y'all say this about me. I become the Cudi stan of someone that's not really like that. I think Joe hates Cudi fans.

I don't think he hates Cudi. He doesn't know Cudi personally, and I hate him. But I just think that he hates- No, when I met him, he was awesome to me. I keep saying that. Yeah. No, cool. Real cool dude.

Like, mad, receptive, and warm. Yeah. Real cool dude. But I just think that Joe just hates that fan base. I have no reason to be with Cudi. No, my issue is, see how Rory just brung up that influence word? I think that y'all throw that influenced word around a lot

for a few people over some of the same shit. He is for sure high on that influence. We just talked about how 808's probably one of the most impactful albums, and it was his sound. I need to know what follows that. I'm done with...

I just gave you the point. You asked a question about the most impactful albums and it was his sound. I need to know what follows that. Like, I'm done with... I just gave you the point. We literally... You asked a question about the most impactful albums in the last 15 years. We brought up 808s as maybe the number one as far as how music sounds now.

Where do 808s derive from? Kid Cudi. Bingo. It's easy. We're not going to waste time with this because we've had this argument before. Even on the Kanye fashion shit with the Taijin shit with Cudi. I've always disagreed with this. I've always waste time with this because we've had this argument before. Even on the Kanye fashion shit with the Taijin shit with Cudi.

I've always disagreed with this. I've always disagreed with this. That Cudi influenced Kanye? He'd tell you that. He's on the intro. Like, Cudi put the album together. I think he wrote most of it anyway. Tell me you're wrong about that, though.

It's his sound. Yeah. Awesome. Y'all, y'all, I always refute this with ReStack. I do. Oh, with the low low? Yeah, but. How many times? See, and that's my do. Oh, well, that's like... Yeah, but... How many times...

See, and that's my issue. Don't just do that. How many times are we gonna... Like, if Three Stack's made the cake... No, but that's like saying... And then mad niggas

just keep evolving the cake. But we do it... We just gonna say all of them made the cake? Can I reply to that? Of course. 808's...

When 808's happened, directly after, all music changed to that melodic shit it was a darker tone than what love below was after love below came out it was the only thing the most unique thing at that time and not everyone really followed suit i disagree with a lot of 808s happened then so far gone happened and all music sounded like that but it's every it's not like when Love Below came out, everyone started making that music. Of course, they were influenced by it,

but it had more of a direct impact to modern music because everyone sounded like that immediately and has been for the past two decades. And you're taking that from release dates? Yeah. There's some validity to that. Yeah, for sure. Not only that,

but when the artist actually works with the artist who put out that type of sound before him, it's like, that clearly is some influence. But if you want to go this route, then what do we do?

We go love below, then we go to miseducation? We could just keep going down that line if we want. No, you can't, because there's a clear distinction in miseducation and the love below.

Is one not influenced by the other? I don't know. Has Three Stacks ever said that? I don't know either. But I mean, if you just keep going down the rabbit hole of who was influenced by who or who started what, you're just going to go in circles.

I'm telling you directly what happened after 808s was all music started sounding exactly like that and all rappers started singing. Yeah, but if I subscribe to that that's not what happened after love below that is that is what happened because everything you name and happened after love below like i don't put as much stock in hey this dropped and then this dropped right after and this dropped right after i believe in i believe let me finish i believe in that ripple effect the creative ripple effect where three stacks could have done something in 05 and you

may not hear the effect of that until 2010 11 and 12 i believe in that so i don't subscribe to that wait let me finish let me let me just finish let me just finish one was something that you said let me finish refuting some of that shit you said because i disagree with almost all of it i also disagree that you said uh which one did you say was more of a dark album uh darker by the tones not not what album are you referring to 808 it's a dark the tones of it are are much darker i don't think kind of music is much darker than the love below i don't tone wise not the content i remember i played love below for my father and said wow this guy he's really going through something like yeah it's a love below is a really dark album

if you understand what he was getting across, but the tones in the music and the feeling of it is not as dark as what 808s is. It's actually much more musical than Love Below. 808s is the darker tones, and Parks can probably speak better to it instrument-wise, of what music is now. There was a lot of upbeat stuff on uh love below

happy valentine's day uh hey uh like there was up there was roses the blue and pink to record like is roses not a dark record it is but not sonically we're not talking sonically the content of love below is a really dark album it's a really dark dark album. Y'all teching me out. No, we're talking about the sound, not the content. I think I get what y'all are saying. No, you just gravitate towards lyrics, and we're gravitating towards sound, maybe. And that's what we're speaking to is the sound, not so much the content. Because I would say, yes, on an intellectual level,

the Love Below is a much darker album than 808's. If you really get into what Andre 3000 is saying and the ups and downs that he takes you through that album from fucking prototype to roses and the and just his life when it comes to relationships it's a fucking dark album but when you listen to it and you listen to it hey yeah and vibrate and take off your cool and my favorite things like it's yeah it feels good but you listen, it's not good. Right. 808 sounds like a dark album. So Far Gone sounded like a dark album.

Yeah. And music followed directly after that. Correct. So, yeah, I think it had more of an impact on modern music. I'm not saying where Kanye got it from or who did it first. I'm saying directly after 808s happened and So Far Gone happened. I think they both had equal impacts on modern music.

I think that 808s and So Far Gone had a more direct impact on what we're hearing today. That's what I'm saying. That's it. Right now. That's it.

Absolutely. I think you gentlemen handled that perfectly, honestly. Thanks, bro. And I can't believe now that we're in this realm, why Kanye took

Andre 3000 off Cop Shottakid. Yeah, I'm curious to know how that we're in this realm, why Kanye took Andre 3000 off of Cop Shottakid. Yeah, I'm curious to know how that went down. You got the snippet in there? Yeah, let me pull it up. You know Three Stacks was like, nah. Give him a little dose.

A little dose. You think he kiboshed it? Oh, for sure. Take me off of that, fam. That's not where I'm at today. That's not where I'm at today. There's no flute on there. Take me off. That's not where I'm at today. There's no flute on there.

Take me off. That's not where I'm at today. There's no flute. They won't play this in Soho, Vietnam. Take me off of that. If I can't come back, I'll put a flute solo. It's over. A flute solo on this beat would be hilarious. Don't know what's gon' stop it Bop, killin' cops What if we kill cops, kids? Make that nigga adopt A baby, cause we got years Make that nigga adopt

On this hit and pop it Maybe they just forgot Refreshing people pop quiz Make a movie bout cops, kids and small boxes Cops, kids and small boxes Make a movie bout cops, kids and trash You changed the whole Bounce here so quick Make a movie about cops, kids and small boxes

The fuck would y'all do? Don't know what's gon' stop it Bop, killin' cops What if we kill cops, kids? Make that nigga adopt A baby, cause we got years please release that somebody i'm chay, what I think did happen was because he was just looping that and kept bringing it back. I bet Andre started it and just didn't finish it. It's time for their deadline. That's what it sounds like. Remember Kanye was doing the album a week at that point? Yeah. I don't think.

You change your deadline, fam. Yeah. Or you put the remix out at some point. Yeah, definitely put out the remix. This could have potentially changed the direction of that project yeah i completely agree yeah because i like that record anyway that's one of the records i liked off that album the beat is crazy yeah i just at that time i didn't want to hear i didn't love the marriage of the beat and nas that was a complaint that we had

about the whole thing but i think that maybe if this was thrown in the mix, it may have changed things. It would have changed things. It would have changed things. I was turned off just, I didn't want to hear any sample of cop shot the kid while Kanye West was wearing a MAGA hat at that time and going super Trump. No, don't rap on this beat.

Like, don't bring this to Nas. Like, stop. The way he approached that bounce. That was crazy. Yeah, it was an interesting pocket he found. Yeah, he made the bob completely different. I would love for y'all to know the feeling of having to, like, go in the studio

with one of these wordsmiths and, like, write a verse as they're on the song i'm sure it's a terrifying feeling and i'm putting myself in that spot with andre and shit like this and it that's terrifying yeah that's terrifying because you got to deal with these unicorns that are amazing with words but then their character just jumps it takes over the track like what could you do he's he's 3000 is like what he's talking about with jeezy like the moment they get on a record and fuck lyrics like just their presence of their voice changes everything like you stop what you're doing when those type of tones come

out of a speaker yeah who is that he has that tone but he has all the other stuff too yeah yeah he has tone lyrics understanding foresight flutes flutes flutes suspenders i mean come on how you gonna do gonna go in the booth that's funny because that should be the three stacks slider. Shit like foresight. Foresight. And suspenders. And suspenders, yeah. You got suspenders and foresight that you can see the future? Come on, man. I don't think Nas

would be the one that would feel that way. I think he'd be excited rather than terrified the way other artists would be. Because Nas is a unicorn as well. Yeah. Just in a different way. More of a word unicorn

than a flow unicorn. And this is what I mean about what you guys like knew about this. Because you're right, Rory. There's instances where both artists in the studio are superior

and nobody feels like they're going to get washed. And then the song comes out. And someone was washed. It's two different worlds. A washing happened. Someone was fully bathed. Somebody was rinsed.

Someone was at the spa. Oh, my God. Sparkling. Someone had a spa day. Clean as a whistle. That's hilarious. But I think as an artist, as a rapper, it's certain artists You automatically are assuming

It's like It depends on the artist Wait hold up Hold up cause y'all about to go somewhere good And I don't want to leave this with Rory Rory In the event that this verse finished Oh yeah

And went out Spa day Cause I heard what you got Trying to get on your queen shit Yeah it's my guy See I don't think Nas would feel like that I know I know

Spa day I got it I don't think it would either What you think happens Sojo When that goes? Sojo. Sojo. Sojo spa.

Yeah, no, they was at the Sojo. Sure, sure. Petty manicure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not the Sojo. Not the Sojo. From that pool in Sojo. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Yo, taking a rabbit for a spa day. I know where that bounce goes that bounce I know where it ends up this is the bounce that had us saying M killed

M killed a whole bar renegade yeah exactly is that and I don't think I think both of them left the studio session

feeling okay that day yeah absolutely absolutely I love Jay's versus Unrenegade I don't think that Jay got killed on Renegade. He didn't get killed. As I got older, I don't think he got killed.

It was more the flow. But that'll kill you. And Em's voice sounded better on that beat. It was his beat. Well, yeah, that's another thing. Didn't Jay already have Em's verse and everything? Well, Em's verses are the same. Yeah, from the Royce record.

Oh, that's kind of crazy, though. Yeah. Yeah, so Jay had it. That's kind of crazy to have the verse and have perception be that you got washed. It happens, bro. If it's going to happen with anybody, M is one of those guys. So it's okay. And if that's considered a washing on Jay's behalf, that makes him think Jay got washed. That makes him the greatest rapper

of all time. Today he didn't get washed. Today he's listening back. He didn't get washed. No, he didn't know. It was two different perspectives that gave... Yeah, but at the time

we had to find something wrong with Blueprint. It's true. And Jay. And we had to find something wrong with Jay at the time. I was killing the album cover nigga in the courthouse.

It's shit all blue. That was a courthouse? Yeah. He was on the... In Blueprint? No, he was sitting on a pool table, wasn't he? No. I thought it was just a table.

Y'all don't even know the cover. Pull up the Blueprint cover. Oh, no. He was on a pool table. Wait, let me see. He was in a courthouse. I never even thought about that. I thought he was on the stand.

Oh, maybe he was on a pool table. With a cigar? That is not a pool table with a cigar that is not a court that is a court give me that damn what court looks like that it's a pool table

right yeah I don't think it's a pool table maybe it is it's not oh wait is that the jury I'm calling Hove oh no

did you use your Hove call on this no that's just you know you only get a few it has to be important that's probably the desk. Hope cleared this up for us. That's a candid.

That's a desk, yeah. That would have been an IG photo. Okay, so let me ask y'all this. I can't believe that we're doing this deep dive all these years later, but why are those shoes right there? That's not the jury? Nah, he's having a meeting, man. That's the execs. He's a businessman.

You don't see the jury's feet in the box. That's true. And the jury's feet in the box that's true in the jury box and all the jury doesn't have matching shoes well in Rockefeller maybe maybe you see

that's Maul's feet I don't know I'll get to speculate that's not my feet that's fucking hilarious that's funny hey that's some funny shit look at Maul

that's me look at Maul and Tata that's not my feet maybe T at Moe and Tata. That's not funny. Maybe Tata's in there. That might be his feet for sure. No, Moe. We got to see now.

Put your shoe up there. Let me see. Put your feet up there. Put your foot. What size you wearing, nigga? That is your foot. Look at that little foot right there. That's a Jordan cement three right on the bottom. That's not my feet, bro.

No more cement standard. That's not my feet. That's not my feet bro You know my cement's that area That's not my feet That's not my feet Is that the proper way To hold a cigar? Yeah if you know How to look cool Look at the shit we looking at

That's fine Hey I'm Niggas gonna find some hate Niggas gonna find some hate You can't even hold In a cigar right man Come on man That's not real

The only proper hate For blueprint one Is jigger that person You don't like that record? Jigga That Person. No. That Person, Jigga, That Person, Jigga. That's the radio idea?

We're going to catch Park sleeping one day. That was good. No, never Park. That's a new take, I feel like. I've heard that recently. That's a new take? Yeah. I've never liked that record

maybe because I was young when I dubbed it for the Vol we like you didn't like the hook you didn't like the hook I just feel like there's 90 songs named Jigga that person

yeah there kind of is like there's a bunch of those oh well this album could be on that list we was just talking about too because after this Soul everybody went Soul Sample crazy

after this to the same argument Ghostface yeah absolutely Supreme Clientele kind of inspired this. Absolutely. One of my favorite albums.

Back in the circle, yeah. Supreme Clientel was before this? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And Justin and Kanye have been on record saying we were trying to make beats for Ghostface. Yeah, this is 9-11. I don't really remember.

That was 2000 with Supreme Clientel, right? The 99. 99, 2000s, man. You wasn't born, Kuroi. Supreme Clientel was like the first time i really got you didn't have right on right on hey whatever i don't remember what car web had had at the time i think web's supposed to be coming home soon shout out to web uh i don't know what car web had at the time in 2001 yeah Yeah, 2000, Supreme Climax.

But when Jolito came on in his car for the first time. In any car. Yeah. No, but my first time hearing it as a rapper. Hey, we was together when Watch the Throne came out. It was the same thing. Yeah. It was the same thing.

Nah, it wasn't the same thing. No, I'm talking about when we first heard that Watch the Throne beat. Oh, the intro? Yeah, the beat. Okay, yeah. How I reacted to that. You pulled that up, right? I think you laid that freestyle

as soon as we heard it. Church in a while, right? Close to it. It wasn't right. I don't remember that day. Wasn't that day? Yeah, no, because I had to go crazy.

No, you smoked that, though. But that whole Lovita beat. The Novocaine one we did on the spot. Another song I had to do Joe, too. A lot of hurt and pain. A lot of hurt and pain. A lot of hurt and pain.

You got to be careful. Hey, rappers out there, be careful what you put in these lyrics, man, because people are going to go back years later and listen. Yeah, for sure. No, for real. I'm five years into my podcasting career, and women are like,

hey, went back to your catalog the other day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What you mean? You in a dark place, huh? What did you mean when you said? Yeah. Yeah, no. Kendrick Lamar signs global admin deal with UMPG.

Yep. He's a global administrator now? That's a good title. The hell does that mean? I don't know. He's administrating something over the whole globe? Oh, he must got something coming then.

He must got something coming. Yo, they came just thinking the globe. That loosen. Speaking of the globe, I'm going to go quickly back to the Kanye thing. Kanye asked the same question you did. No, he took it. Well, he said the world.

You said the United States. Yeah, and yeah. Yeah, when he said that, was like oh wow Joe just said that who owns the world what do you come up with Tesla nobody no I think I did see a number they came up with it was something it was a lot of trillions hmm it was a lot of trillions about us no, to buy the Earth. Oh. But then somebody hit me in. The U.S. was like $60 trillion, I think they said. Then somebody hit me and was like. Don't get the girl started. They're going to go from a Birkin bag to Earth.

Pro gas can't even cop me to Earth. No, no, no, no. And speaking of that, I have learned so much about Birkins this week. Like, I didn't know nothing about any of this. I've never bought the Hermes belt. It was sold out when I tried to be fly when all of us were getting those H belts, all y'all. And tucking in our dirty small white T-shirts in front of it.

I'm so glad that I don't have a closet full of H belts. The V-neck. That was the V-neck era. It was either that or they washed their white T-shirts. That was the V-neck era. It was either that or they washed their white t-shirts so much it had like the bacon bottom where the shit was just wrinkly

and like, don't buy a belt. Buy a new Hanes. Can't wash a Hanes more than once. It was a nasty era of fashion. Nasty era of fashion. The V-neck era

was a funny era. Terrible. I participated. Oh, absolutely. That's all I did. Showed your chest every day. Yeah, absolutely. And yeah absolutely and i feel like every chest hairs pop out and i feel like every summer the v just got deeper and deeper yeah oh yeah and like brought her on the shoulder and shit too there's some sick shit going on and the change clothes hook does pharrell say change clothes boys and girls

no and go i think change clothes and go yeah that's worse no boys and girls no and go I think change clothes and go yeah that's worse no boys and girls is worse no tell them boys and girls to change clothes

what is that that by far is the nastiest hook in hip hop history if he said boys and girls change clothes what

it's an ad for the YMCA hold up man did it sound like that change clothes and go that's it that's all it was clothes. What? It's an ad for the YMCA. Hold up, man. Did it sound like that? Change clothes and go. That's it. That's all it was. Boys and girls. Boys and girls.

Change clothes. Change clothes and go. The fuck happened? Boys and girls. Boys and girls. Change your clothes. Chill. That's why snitches is the Marvin Gaye song.

Hold on. Chill. I have a point. Wait. What did he say? He didn't you. Hold on. Joe might have a point. Wait, what did he say? He didn't say boys and girls. He didn't say boys and girls. Wait, no. It's just like that video they put out.

No, buddy. Don't y'all try to tell me. No, he didn't say boys and girls. Change clothes and go. Turn it up. That song did not go like that. Play the whole. Hold on.

Let's listen. Wait, no, no. I need to. No, no, no. All right. Now just. All right. All right, we're cool so far. Hey.

Good funny ears. Let's exchange numbers and go. Let's exchange numbers, boys and girls? No, no. You dying to the boys and girls? That's Pharrell. Pharrell loving the boys and girls. No, so let's exchange numbers and go.

That's what it was. And girl, I promise. Oh, yeah, no. Yes, no. Wait, I just learned about this on Clubhouse. Wait a second. Wait a second. They're erasing stuff from history. No since the beginning this might have said boys and

girls we just heard when it came out no they changed the they changed the stems yes no the only thing they changed was jay cole's uh verse with rick no no no no i know what joe's getting at because i ate an edible and went on a YouTube bender. And I started seeing all the things that we grew up on that changed. That don't exist, yeah. Like JCPenney, the whole, how it was typed out is different now. The font? It was like an extra letter.

No. I know y'all. I know y'all think. Yo, Barkley yo look at me and rory like we are okay parks hear me out all right remember they said the world was going to end in 2012 they just changed all the words no it did this is just a recycle of everything that happened in our past and they're fucking it up they They're changing things. They forgot what JCPenney looked like. This is just a cycle of a simulation that we're in right now.

Wait. Rory, I'm not supposed to eat the whole 40 milligram bar. Let me add on to this. And let me add on. You're supposed to take a dose of the bar, man. Parks, this is a simulation of everything before 2012. No, eat the, I know it's delicious.

It's a Kit Kat. It ended in 2012. You wanna eat the whole Kit Kat, but you can't eat the whole Kit Kat, man. Listen, y'all think Rory's crazy. No, I'm not crazy. I'm with him. I'm with him. Okay, let me hear your story.

Another example they brought up was the spelling of the word hypnotic on the drink back in the day. How do you remember it being spelled? H-Y-P. H-Y-P, I believe, back in the day. I think it was H-Y-P-N-O-T-I-C. There was a Q somewhere. There was a Q somewhere. Oh, look, look, look, look, look, look. There was a Q.

Don't remember. No, there was a Q. I didn't learn this from Clubhouse. Now, listen. There was 100% a P in there. I mean, not a P. A Y. A Y.

There was a Y. No, for sure. Absolutely. Where's the Y, Maul? I don't know. You can't find the Y. Not on the new bottles, no. Dead. Here's another one. I didn't think about it. No, for sure. Absolutely. Where's the why, Maul? I don't know. You can't find the why. Not on the new bottles, no. Dead. Here's another one.

I didn't think about it. The Burstein Bears. Oh, we preaching. We preaching. It used to be. Ah, it changed, Parks. It's the Burstein Bears now? Whole different logo and name.

Look, now you're stepping to the dark side. Well, they probably offended someone. Okay, what about Looney Tunes? You didn't even think about that one, Pops. I didn't think about that one. It was L-O-O-N-E-Y. No, it was just Y. L-O-O-N-E-Y.

You see them? Yeah. It was N-Y back in the day. Just L-O-O-N-Y. I believe so. It was N-E-Y. Now it's just Y. See, I knew it was N-E-Y back in the day.

I thought it was just N-Y. And I'm going to really fuck you up now. Go get them Febreze and Skechers. You remember the Shaq movie movie Shazam, right? Yes. Classic. Do you also remember? Kazam.

Whatever it was, Kazam. Do you also remember the Sinbad version? I remember Sinbad being a genie in the movie. I don't remember the name, though. Doesn't exist anymore. They're saying it doesn't exist. No, Sinbad was definitely a genie. Sinbad himself is on record saying, y'all are wrong, and I've never done that.

But he's wrong. That movie exists, Sinbad. Prior to 2012, it did. Look, they erased it. They erased it. It's over. It was probably a bad movie, in all fairness. No, I saw that movie.

Look, there's a whole conspiracy theory with Sinbad and Shazam. Look. No, he definitely did that movie. How many E's y'all thought was in Febreze? Febreze? I'm not doing this. I'll take two. I'll go with two.

F-E-B-R-E-E-Z-E. Oh, maybe three because the F-E. It was two before 2012. Now it's one. I'm not rolling, man. I'm not rolling with that. I might have a bottle in the crib. We'll be back with more.

We'll be back. Hey, this is off the dome that we the crib. We'll be back with more. We'll be back. Hey, this is off the dome that we're doing. We'll be back with more for y'all. I might have an old Febreze bottle in the crib from 2000. Did Skechers have a T in it when you guys were growing up? No. No, S-K-E-C. S-K-E-C.

It has a T now. Really? The sneakers, Skechers? Yeah. Oh, wow. Nah, I got to go back. Yeah, exactly. It was S-K-E-C-H-E-R.

Hey, don't belittle Rory and I again. Ever again. That's how I remember it. S-K-E-C-H-E-R. Oh, there go the boots. I'm all worn on the blueprint cover. Oh, shit. We found them.

Yo, my nigga, listen. So one thing you ain't going to ever do is put me in a pair of Skechers, my nigga. That's what you not call me. Nah, don't do that. Because everyone wear Balenciagas now. Now they too pair of Skechers That's what you not gonna do Nah don't do that Cause everyone wear Balenciagas now Now they too good for Skechers Right

When it's the same shoe I've never worn a pair of Balenciagas Or Skechers Yo you copping The new Timbs Nah not for me Give me my regular What they do with the Timbs though

They're the Croc Timbs They dip them in You know when you order Ice cream from Mr. Softee And you tell them You want it chocolate dipped Yeah yeah They did that with the Timbs

But mad different colors. So green, pink, blue, purple. Oh, they got the green flavor and the pink flavor? Yeah, they got strawberry, raspberry. No, it's just green and pink. Yeah. It's the flavors. Yeah.

Yo, chicks just put, you know. Nah. Tims come in black, brown, or wheat. That's it. That's it. That's it Wheat That's it I mean I was always a fan Of the dark navies Back in the day

Those were cool When they first dropped Yeah The old navies They're like the dark brown Not this navy The reddish kind of brown Is alright too

Those were cool Can I pivot real quick Y'all girl ever put Like a picture on Instagram That you just had a problem with Oh we've only been saying Rent free for five episodes now. You didn't shut up, boy.

Yeah, absolutely. Why? Nah, these pics, it's just getting crazy out here. And some man has to care about these women. Yeah, but that's what they bring it out there for. It shouldn't be in the pic. Nipple. No, go ahead.

Nipple away. Listen, I support that culture. Nipple culture. I'm big on nipple culture as well. If you got a fat pussy and now you just, you pulling this Vandex up so you can show a fat pussy on Instagram, like, come on, man. You don't support fat pussy culture? Y'all are going, huh?

You don't support fat pussy culture? On Instagram, no. Joe, I don't want to accuse you of anything, but it sounds like you're policing women's bodies. That's what it sounds like. Honestly, that is what it sounds like. Yeah, yeah. My bad.

You're shaming. Fat pussy shaming. You should never shame a fat pussy. Some people don't like fat pussies, for sure. That's such a good compliment. I give it to my chicks without fat pussies, for sure. That's such a good one. What is skinny pussy? What is there not to like? That's such a good compliment. I give it to my chicks without fat pussies. Nah, hey, that's real shit. What he just said was some real shit, because I've done that.

I'm like, your pussy fat? She be like, nah, I know it's not. I be like, you wrong. You wrong about your pussy. Hey, nah, I'm about to get out of here. We can't go into this. We can't have this talk. Hey, who would know better, you or me? How many times you been in your pussy. I'm about to get out of here. We can't go into this. We can't have this talk. Who would know better, you or me?

How many times you been in your pussy? I'm telling you, it's fat. It's some cushion in here. That's real shit, though. That's real shit. Niggas will tell a chick with a little ass, yo, your pussy fat. I am curious to know, who likes the skinny pussy, though?

It's a culture. For sure. Just like people like skinny women. It's a culture. Alright, let's break. And skinny women be having fat pussies. Absolutely. What the skinny niggas be having? No, I'm out. I'm leaving.

We're not doing this. We gotta sleep. Just put us to sleep. We're not doing this. No. We got a sleeper. Get in there and say, no, just put the sleeper. We're not playing it. Let's get the fuck out of here, man. I thought we were working. I thought he was taking it.

You caught yourself. I thought I was getting you. It was clear about that. You brought it to the dude. That's nasty, man. That's some nasty shit. You can't ask no man what skinny niggas you got.

Oh, my God. You can't ask no man Hey what skinny niggas be Oh my god man Oh shit That's crazy as fuck man Y'all are idiots Yo oh my god Yo what does skinny niggas be That's insane to ask a grown man now I don't know why y'all looking at me And not at Joe

For asking that question When I was talking about women. Holy shit. I don't know why the pause looks are in my direction. Holy shit. And we're back. You know, in a more calm. We've collected ourselves. Yeah.

Space. Let's get our NPR voices nah it was wild or off mic it's facts can you go grab a reason outside that was wild

off mic but I'm not even gonna bring that bring that to my guy Rory like that yeah nah we don't gotta do that

I was off nah I was mad that it was off mic you know that smoke is fine. Oh, alright, well. Rebate!

Hey! No, we gotta push the show further, man. If it's at my expense, that's fine. I don't care. No,

no, we're not. Off mic in a sidebar conversation, I was alerting the gentleman. I was alerting the gentleman. I was alerting my friends and co-hosts that

damn, there's not even a cool way to bring this up. I was actually trying to see what type of way he was going to bring this topic up. The reason, what did we tell you about bringing goonies here, man? Salute to the goonies man This is not big enough For you and your whole

Fucking conglomerate Two people Did you guys leave Your weapons outside Two people in COVID I don't know whose hands These niggas done shook We didn't do the fever test

Thingamajiggy with these guys Savon did you get this guy We're always recording reasons We're always We were just talking about Tyga's dick pic that leaked. You walked in at the right time. I was telling Rory off mic. You walked in at the right time.

I was telling Rory off mic that Tyga had leaked his shit and that all the women were going crazy about a month ago. He has OnlyFans, right? Yeah. You subscribed to his OnlyFans? I did not. Okay. It's a profitable business.

I don't blame you. So I was telling Rory that, you know what I mean, Tyga started OnlyFans and leaked his shit, and the woman said that, you know what I mean, he was all right. And then Rory said... I bet he knew that. Are you surprised?

I was referring to... Does it shock anyone? And then we were shocked. It was like, damn, Rory, when you peeped. What version of the taste video did you see? Y'all didn't know Tyga had a piece on him? I just want to play a sleeper. Have a great record.

I was referring to it didn't surprise me that Tyga would leak his own dick pic, but I said it in the wrong time. Yeah, time was a little off. Timing. It's all about timing. Yeah, comedic timing. Yeah. That's it.

Anyways. Congratulations, I guess, to Tyga. Yeah, transitioning from Tyga's piece. To something much more important, West Side Gun. School me to what's happening important West Side Gun School me to what's happening With West Side Gun Saying that M didn't promote his album Or some shit

Let's grab reason on this part too And we're back Oh you didn't get the good joke No Super engineer Where did that come from? Pro Tools stop Try it again

It's your Pro Tools Try it again You got the old This is a shot of redo the joke Wait You working off the old Pro Tools? Nah. You know what I'm talking about.

The old Pro Tools. Reason is here. Reason, how you doing, man? I'm doing all right, man. I'm doing good, actually. I'm doing good. That's me upset at the driver. So, yeah.

Oh, you're the driver. Let's not do that. Listen to that rapper, Brittany. By the way, Last time Reason was here He didn't have a chain I didn't He didn't have on Alexander McQueen shoes

Oh my god EDD is a Blessful Wait He does have a little chain It's a little There's a different reason EDD is a blessing

Yeah Wait what does the chain say It says Reese I'm rich I don't even want to tell him What it says Cause I know Come on

It says Reece It says Reece It says I'm rich I'm doing very well That's what it says Wait Who's Reece? I don't know where Joe be going

But who's Reece? That's what I'm saying This stupid But who is Reece? That's what they call him man Alright go ahead Ask him How y'all doing?

I'm glad to see y'all Yeah I haven't seen It's good to see you I think Amar was in LA I missed him Yeah I missed him in LA Yeah

Amar can't go back to LA He can't go back? What happened? You got into some Random out of there Don't pay Please They ain't run Amar like that

Exactly You see how quick he said that He don't even shit? Don't pay. Ran him out of there. Don't pay. Please. They ain't run him all out of there. Exactly. You see how quick he said that? He don't even believe that. Don't listen to him. Hey, that nigga chased him to LAS. That happened. Never. Hey, he made a splite in the nick of time.

Well, I see what you did there, Nick. Never mind. I liked it. I enjoyed it. I liked it. Reason. Who the fuck is Reese? You?

It was a birthday gift to myself Man that was I felt good It was like I saw the Mike Tyson interview It said it's a trophy I like that I like that

Coin of like Chains That niggas buy A trophy Look at the excuses We give ourselves To buy things I like it

I just seen Tyson I wanted it And I bought it I like it Like yeah It makes you feel good It makes me feel good Why you ain't

Why you ain't get the O And the N Records ain't selling that way Records ain't selling that way I did well But records ain't selling that way I'm just Reez right now I'll be Reezing one day

I'll be Reezing one day But now honestly All jokes aside That is a nice I just put my album out Chained Yeah It was like a congratulations

To myself Yeah I like it Your reason's great man How do you feel about The reception to the album? Actually like It was really really dope

Like when you sit on music For a long time You kind of like Forget That like It's gonna be weird That it's good Because you've been listening

To the same shit Over and over again So I had like My couple tracks That I thought was gonna do well but i didn't think that people would like like i didn't think that it would go over as well as it went over to be completely honest like i know i put out a good project but um people are like saying it's like the best project of the year and different things i didn't think it was gonna get that reception i was just trying to take a stepping stone to the next one that's really what i was aiming for so what is the um okay parks we is the, oh, Gary Parks.

Were you spending the time fine-tuning shit, or you had it, and it was done? Nah, we had it done. We were supposed to drop earlier in the year, and then COVID hit. We were legitimately, I had a date in March, and then COVID hit, and then we had to push everything back. I only added two records since then. You know, Todd pulled all the albums for nine months after they think it's finished. After they think it's finished? they think it's finished after they thought

it was done though Top be just he be wanting the right timing for everything like I'm not gonna lie so he just like we waited

and then we were about to drop in July and then the Black Lives Matter shit hit we felt like it was disrespectful so then we waited again no y'all was getting

out of Dreamville way come on stop that please stop talk your shit, Reese. What I'm just saying, like I... That's my nigga. What you mean?

That's my nigga right there. What you talking about? Yeah. Talk your shit. Let's not do that. I'm with you on that. I'm with you. Completely.

Completely. He ain't like that. If there's anything I'm... Your reason is one of my favorite rappers. If there's anything I'm not... If there's anything I'm not dancing around, it's that.

That's your piece of it. No, they're my niggas, but it's anything I'm not dancing around, it's that. That's your pieces, though, eh? No, they're my niggas, but it's like, we're not getting out of here. Come on. We're not doing that. All right, well, then walk me through the first listening session with TDE when you played them Window Cry and said, I don't trust none of y'all. Fuck y'all. Fuck this label.

If I'm going to be real with you, the only- Matter of fact, my manager that's sitting next to me, I don't trust you either. You're the CEO's son. And tell them where you got that sauce from. Whose sauce is that? Dissing their own label? Listen, if we're going to credit everything to Man in the Mood, I'm going to start taking my shit. Sometimes you got to take your shit.

Whose sauce is that? The fuck my label? I don't trust none of you niggas' sauce. Get your shit on. This nigga's really crazy. It was really Moose's idea for me to play it to Top, though. That's my manager, Top's son or whatever. It was his idea for me to play it for him.

I bet it was his idea. Once he heard it, it was his idea for me to play it for Top. And Top was cool. Top fucked with it. Top was the only reason why I was on the project. He was the one That called me And was like Who's

Like what's that record That you was talking shit About all of us You should put that As an outro So Top asked that The only nigga That kind of scared me

A little bit was Rock Cause he was off Like a bottle of hen When he heard it And then Like he Rock gets like Very like

Touchy and aggressive And you don't know If it's like Coming from love Or He about to start To put you down Yeah you just don't know You know what I'm saying Like so he He be like blood And then he grab you And you don't really know it's like coming from love Or Yeah He's about to start To put you down Yeah you just don't know

You know what I'm saying Like so he'd be like Blood And then he'd grab you And you don't really know Where it's going after that But nah It was all love though

Like that's one of the reasons Why I fuck with the label Cause they just They just cool about shit like that Don't say nothing else About rock though Nah I get out of his way

Completely That's my part I get out of his way completely Seems like a nice guy though Friend of the show He's actually really good though I love J-Rock His last album

Was one of my favorite albums One of my favorite albums too Like No Crush Yeah That's one of my favorite TDE albums that ever came out With Redemption Yeah

It's a fact Do you think y'all would've been able You think J-Rock would've been able To make that album If there was no Man on the Moon I mean if you If you go back to

This thing about to go back To every album And Man on the Moon Like yo Cut it out If you think about to This thing about To go back to every hour And man on the moon Like yo Cut it out If you think about The drum patterns I'm joking

I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking What do you think About Larry Bird What I think he's a

Great player I guess I don't know What context we're asking Top five No Top ten I don't think Larry Bird's top ten

Top ten I don't think He's top ten Top fifteen Maybe That's honestly How I feel How old are you again No. Top 10? I don't think Larry Bird's top 10. Top 10? I don't think he's top 10. Top 15? Maybe. That's honestly how I feel. How old are you again? I'm not going to lie.

I think a lot of them old niggas is overrated, though. I'm going to be completely honest with you. That's why I asked how old are you? I just turned 30. Just turned 30. But it's just because I just feel like, I don't know. I just feel like, I don't think it was guard heavy back then. I think it was more big.

So I don't feel like they had to play against nobody that was like worth much if I'm be completely honest who's your favorite player Kobe I know he's not everybody like I know he's not gonna sense like the best player but I think that Kobe have to play against better niggas than Mike and all of them niggas not LeBron because he played in the same era but like I'd always tell niggas like name me a top five wing that Jordan had to play against like when he was so caught like you get i'm saying like they just really didn't play nobody so you don't respect byron russell no i'll be completely honest with you i don't great coach no no i don't you don't you bought those uh nine hundred dollar sneakers with your own money labels money is there a stylus Like, what's going on?

It was like a... You didn't strike me last time you were here as the guy who was going to go out and get all the $900 sneakers. I don't have all the $900. Like, we buy shit sometimes. And I know that cut. I don't know that t-shirt, but that cut I know is expensive. The way it's laying

is not... It's not a gilded with the logo on it. How it's laying on him, bro. Like Tiger. I have my sleeper ready. My sleeper. My shit right here. My shit's ready to cue.

Cue Ema. Cue Ema. Bro, you better not play no Tiger, man. I mean. The waves is spinning This nigga got My album just dropped My waves was here last time

Yeah but the line My waves was here last time My waves was here last time Yo like Nah you looking good man And you know This the difference though I'm gonna be real

The difference is that Y'all like last time Was like really an accident Like y'all Like I was headed To the airport You know what I'm saying Like that's really the difference

And like Yeah nah accident waves Do look different You right We wasn't expecting The waves to the airport You know what I'm saying Like that's really the difference And like You know accident waves Do look different You right We wasn't expecting the waves To come through You right Do you weigh your chain

On the plane My project did really well man I just feel like New Beginners is out And I feel like You really talking that shit On there I feel like

Yeah I feel like It was a real personal project Introspective You know this ain't your typical You know when you came here This ain't your typical Running the door you came in this ain't your typical running the door

we ain't doing it it was sequenced well it was sequenced well you feel me and I worked really hard on it you feel me and I and I just appreciate

everybody that and I'ma fuck all that how your pussy rate looking at like yeah they throwing it at you like that's what I wanna talk about are you in a relationship

yes oh my sorry queen sorry queen what are you doing I said sorry to me don't do that to Reese sorry queen I sorry, Queen. Don't do that, Therese.

Sorry, Queen. I'm sorry. Therese. Don't do that, Therese. So you're in a relationship. You've been in a relationship. So you can't really even enjoy your success right now, right? Kind of, sort of.

It sucks. Yeah, that part of it. It's like, yeah. Nah, you got to take good vacations with your queen. That's all. That's when you got to. Look, niggas don't even like that. Look how every nigga was like, nah queen that's all that's when you got it niggas don't even like that look at every nigga was like

nah that's trash niggas don't wanna take good vacations with they queen I got a whole new spot with this big ass balcony I was super excited and then on move in day

I realized who also lived in my house and I said why did I waste all my money on something that will not be used for anything cool

I ain't gonna hold you that living with your girl shit is over with. Look at what's those days over with. I'm never turning back. My house is mine. I go to the balcony when I want, bitch. Hey, where you going? To pee.

Mind your fucking business. Can I when I want, bitch. Hey, where you going? To pee. Mind your fucking business. Can I piss without you, bitch? I'm never going back. I had two weeks of sadness. Like, oh, this is where we used to lay. We laughing, but y'all really don't know the pain of when you ask where you're going, and you're literally about to go piss. I'm going two feet away if it's okay, bitch.

Respectively. Because you got to say that in your head. Respectfully. Respectfully, of course. Reason, I think you would just be in a better spot if you just used my line, which is, I'm not supposed to feel this way right now.

I feel like I got to catch niggas before an hour, bro. This is crazy. Too right now. I feel like I got to catch niggas before an hour, bro. This is crazy. Too late now. I was home screaming, I'm too successful to be miserable. Oh my God. What niggas be going through, man?

Like, come on, man. Love should make me. I'll pull all that shit out. Come on, come on Westside, Westside This is important This is important I would like to share

A horrible vulnerable moment Oh no Oh Westside can wait Rory's taking it there I got that text Yo, where you at? Like I thought you were Supposed to be home last night

And I said I've been home I'm sitting in the car I've been here for 30 minutes I need a couple more Damn man Real shit You sit in the garage?

I was just I was just sitting in the You can't do that Yeah no you gotta go in the house You can't sit outside the house You're gonna get in trouble Like actually I need some time

I'm here Don't worry Right outside But just give me some time Damn She would invade the balcony And then I pissed outside So no one asked me

Where I was going When I was going Anyway so yeah, album. That's crazy. What a great album. Westside. Westside Gun. Can somebody school me on exactly what's going on here with this album promotion thing?

Eminem posted Alchemist's album on his Instagram. And a fan said, no post of Westside Gun album that's on your own label. LOL, what the fuck? And then West Side responded to him with the laughing emoji and the shh emoji. I object to this. I object to it

because that's a new thing that people do where they use the crying emoji when it's not crying. Like, you're not laughing, crying at this West Side. He wouldn't think that's like a sad thing. At this point,

he might just be laughing. Yeah, he was laughing at that for sure. He was laughing at's like a sad thing. At this point, he might just be laughing. Yeah, he was laughing at that for sure. He was laughing at this. I mean, when the album dropped, maybe he may have felt a different way, but at this point... He felt a way.

It's all right for niggas to say we felt a way about some shit. Well, West would be the first one to tell you he feel a way. Yeah. But I also know he laughed.

West is the one with the ad-libs, right? Well, he rapped too. No, I'm saying that. He's going to do a whole caption about you tomorrow. Uh-oh. No, because like... The beef rapped too. No, I'm saying that. He's going to do a whole caption about you tomorrow. Uh-oh.

No, because like, so let me, let me. The beef birthed here. The beef was birthed right here. Let me give context. I'm cool with Benny. I'm going to erase all the context out.

Yeah, just leave the beef. Clickbait only. All right, so go ahead. Get your shit on. I'm cool with Benny. That's the only one that I honestly, that I truly listen to. I'm going to be honest with Vinny That's the only one That I honestly That you think is nice That I truly listen to

I'm gonna be honest with you But I know that one of them Has like They're known for Like their ad libs And I think that's Westside I'm not 100% sure You ain't

That's Westside right This ain't cleaning it up Oh no this is the thing I'm never I'm fine with As long as it's like What I said You get what I'm saying

Like I'm completely fine With what come with it As long as it's what I said So yeah I'm not sure Yeah but no he is known for He's the one that's known For his ad libs Yeah right now Boom boom it as long as it's what I said. So yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, but no, he is known for it. He's the one that's known for his out there. Yeah, right now.

Boom, boom, boom. Hit different when it's aiming at you. Careful now. And you should listen to him. He been throwing those darts at us, though, for a minute, though. Shut up. He has.

Oh, no, no, no, no. That's a fact. Oh, he's right. I forgot about that. Yeah, that's a fact, bro. He's been throwing small darts at us. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

No, he got to shoot that. He got to shoot that back. He been throwing those darts at us. Like, that's all right. gotta shoot that He gotta shoot that back He been throwing those darts at us Like that's alright Yeah he gotta shoot that back What he saying He be alright He said something about

He said why the fuck Is these niggas Nominated for shit Why are they held Like you know what I'm saying Like over us or whatever But I do also get What he was saying

As far as like How many projects they put out But it's also not about The quantity though You know what I'm saying Like it's about the classics In my opinion That's how I feel

Let me try to push this rap Beat some more Big dick energy Target energy My sleeper's here It's a brand new record I don't feel comfortable He's gonna have to

He's gonna have to All right let me try To push this more Benny's album is incredible Can we get into What happened in January Yeah we can talk about it I'll let you

Take the floor I don't want to, it wasn't my situation. I just happened to be there. It was a minute ago, but I know that they had an interview when West Side said something along the lines of like they're the greatest rap group

or something like that. Oh, no, I'm not talking about that. We don't know that. I'm talking about what happened in January when you were supposed to rap and people said no. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we was all supposed to rap

at Apple. It was supposed to be, Grisetta was going up there and I was supposed to go up there and rap with him. Oh yeah Yeah we was all Supposed to rap At a I forgot what At Apple It was supposed to be Grisetta was going up there And I was supposed to go up there And rap with him And I hit Benny They said it was cool

They said he was going to Check in with the rest of the camp And then they said that The studio didn't have The capacity for another rapper I don't Like I don't really know Nah they wasn't

Fucking with you That's all Yeah nigga The studio's closed That's my point only three mics sorry in the whole Apple building

it's only three mics that's what I'm saying three mics we don't have the capacity for it Apple doesn't have the capacity yeah but I mean for me meanwhile

Nicki brings about 200 people to surround us yeah we were supposed to rap though but I mean that's what honestly though it ain't even just them

to me that's what's missing in the game I feel like niggas just don't like to like cross rapping like cross i just don't think that niggas like to really make cross moments like that no more like you know i'm saying like i feel like it's it's all about like it's not about the moment of hip-hop i feel like it's more about the benefit of where you're trying to go if that makes sense okay and um that's something that i try to push against in my career like i try to go with the my career. Like, I try to go

with the moments. Like, what's going to be remembered as far as like a hip-hop moment and shit like that. Which I know that that's not the traditional way now. Everybody's looking at,

you know, what makes sense for us to be able to benefit the most. I'm just not, I'm not with, I'm just not here for that, to be honest with you. I feel you.

So, it is what it is, though. Did you, now, did you sign with Kendrick's new media company or did he not want to fuck with you? I did not. He's doing that. Um,

on his own. I signed the top. Yeah. Okay. He's doing that on his own. All right. Yeah. All right.

What else do I have? I'm asking regular questions. Cause you're a maniac, bro. Like it is like, I don't know what is the Kendrick shit like we've seen these trailers

with George Smith looking amazing he doesn't know her I don't know what it is Kendrick is a killer from what I know I just know he has like a thing

you know what I mean oh he's got a thing like I don't want to call it a label because I know it's like a creative thing we know more than you that's what I'm saying I don't know but yeah

I know that they got Baby Keem who's tight I like Baby Ke but yeah I know that they got Baby Keem who's tight I like Baby Keem yeah fuck with Baby Keem Baby Keem tight so

another guy Jay-Z sequels his last album that outro that outro was the real feeling yeah I can't do this with you

yeah you know I just see through too much rapper shit to be able to talk to reason I can't do this I just see through Too much rapper shit To be able to talk to reason I can't Nah I get it Nah nah baby

He tight Yeah he tight I like what he doing out there He's dope You heard the last shit No nigga I haven't Neither have you

Stop doing that dog Alright I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding Yo Rory Mall Shots Baby Keem Yeah 100% We're joking

Cause Reason is a good friend of ours So we joke around With our good friends Rory Mall and Parks I do want to hear about Your thoughts on this West Side shit As far as

Oh this shit The Eminem shit Yeah the shit I've been Trying to get a cover For the last 40 minutes Yeah but we know that For whatever reason Em doesn't promo much if any of Griselda for whatever reason it's weird to me but I don't know the it's weird to you where that sauce came from that's more Joe sauce

weird to me no that's not Cudi Cudi definitely started weird label that don't promote you oh yeah more Joe sauce. Come on. But Eminem has used- Who's the first one to not get promoted by Em? Tell the truth. No, but Eminem- But not only that, Eminem- He made every beat on your album.

He's been- Not on mine. The fans get on him a lot about that, though. That he doesn't promote- They don't promote artists well up there. Hey, let me help y'all. I feel like I've told y'all this a million times before, but y'all don't ever listen to me

That's not M That's not M tweeting But that's my point too That's not M Instagramming It shows the label No it shows the label Cause the label is running his account This is not an M specific

What label Paul What the fuck does Paul know about anything He ran Def Jam What are you talking about Ran him where To the ground You gotta do a bad job if logic has had enough of the label did you dis logic because you reason this is so logic and reason

i dropped a great project bro it was a battle of the brains right like one's logic one's reason left side versus right side of the bracket get it brains right like one's logic one's reason left side first right side of the bracket get it shout out to logic logic no he did logic and logic is my culture logic's not on the album but why he's not on the album why is he not on the album yeah you don't think he wanted to he's retired you're not but he wasn't tired but he wasn't don't do that he wasn't he was retired when i when my project came out he was nah he wanted to he wanted to spit with re't Don't do that He was retired When my project came out He was retired Nah he wanted to Spit with Reese Don't do that

I'm not bro Lodge and Reese Lodge and Reese Lodge and Reese Y'all are sick man Well I'm telling you The back and forth On the lodge and Reese

That would be like The new guilty conscious Just on different sides Of the brain Right Yeah but I'm Really not sure what Slim, but Shady or Eminem are doing up there, but they're not doing a good job.

No. Handling their artists and pushing their artists. But Griselda's doing a good job, though. They are. Oh, yeah. They're doing a great job. Yeah, which I think we spoke about it when they signed. We didn't even really see the need for them to sign with him.

Oh, we got to clean up an ounce of him. Yeah. Hey, Chuck. seven. Yeah. Hey, Joe Christ. Wait. What? Somebody made a mess in house seven. Somebody made a mess. Look, man.

Hey, that's the, honestly, though, that's the issue with our culture, though, now. It's like, and I know that you're joking. We're joking. We're all joking. Exactly. I'm kidding. But the outside world, it's like And I know that you're joking We're joking We're all joking Exactly But the outside world It's like You can't say anything

About anybody Without niggas thinking That you're like Coming for them You get what I'm saying That's actually like A real thing So it's hilarious

But yes But Griselda is Doing a great job I do know that They don't need that promotion And Benny's album is great Why didn't you remix what? Why didn't I remix

That's a sick question To ask a nigga With Tiger Why you didn't remix WAP? What? That's a sick ass question man Why you didn't remix WAP? No that song

That song was he not Yo listen maybe I'm old Maybe I'm old Yo back in my day You used to have to Take the hot record You used to have to take the hot record. Yeah, you would have killed it. You used to have to take the hot record, rhyme to it, and then put it out.

They don't do that no more. Nah, they don't do that no more. Nah, they don't do that no more, bro. This is reason. I do treason in that way. You know what I mean? How would it go? I got the beat.

You got the lock beat? Reason, I love your album, bro. Me too. Reason lived in New York. He would be my best friend. Really good album, man. I legitimately listen to it. I'm not saying it because I'm a fan.

I'm just not going to pass by Joe's bar. My name is Reason. I do drugs. Reason. That's the worst bar I've ever heard in my life. Niggas would have turned that right off.

We've been gone for a minute. We've been gone for a minute. I'm not Reed, so it didn't hit. It didn't hit like it should. All right, man. We've been gone for a while.. He been gone for a while. He been gone for a while.

You think him and Logic should have done WAP? Me and Logic could have did WAP. We could have did WAP. Wait till I drop my album on the five-year anniversary of Rage. You're not dropping the album. You know, one of my managers actually called me recently and asked me, do you think you can get Joda?

Damn, after your outro, you added more managers? They actually called me and asked me, do you think you can get Joda to come out of retirement? I said, fuck no. I don't think that,

I don't know why they called me and asked me that. I don't know why all you rappers want a verse from me now that I'm retired. We just heard one, and it's not good. Shut up, Tariq. See where his skills is at right now.

You know, so many rappers have hit me like perverse and like, yo, fam. Is that like a thing? I am retired, yes. That's crazy, yeah. You know, rappers, we try to come up with moments. And I guess that is a moment. So you would ask. I don't know.

I'm just. You don't know if it's a moment. Never mind. I wouldn't ask. I wouldn't ask, though, because I've seen you talk about retirement. You seem very, very serious. I love it. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.

Like, I would never disturb. I'm going to reach out to y'all when it's time. Because there are some of y'all that I do want on that project. That is actually crazy, because now, like, you because now you can actually fuck around and make an album and have everybody on that shit. Well, now albums are nine minutes. So, I mean, that really only needs two verses from me. Two verses?

It'll be one song. I can go get the whole gang. You, uh, damn, once my guy just became a friend with Guap Dad. Look at how far you removed from rap. Oh, damn, that's a diss at Guap Dad. He didn't know his name. See, that's how niggas do. You see what I'm saying?

You snap twice. Yeah, but Guap Dad's my homie. I night See that's how niggas do You see what I'm saying You snap twice Yeah but Guabdad's my homie I mean that's fair You just met him on Clubhouse Last night And now we're homies Now that's the bro Now that's the bro

Now that's big bro That's definitely OG That's big bro right there That's OG Yo OG What movie you on tonight Are you on Clubhouse I'm PR-E So shout out Guabdad What's Clubhouse Nevermind Are you on Clubhouse? I'm PR Reece

So shout out Guap Dad What's Clubhouse? Nevermind If you don't know I don't know I'm not gonna lie Nah nevermind We're not gonna tell you about it

It's for the cool kids When you get the O and the N on the chain The O and the N I'm working on it Then you can come Are you a Soho House member? I don't know what that is either I'm gonna be honest with you

I be out of touch bro I'm not gonna lie I be in my own little space He's married man I'm not married Well He's trying to put that on He's like no I'm not married

Look where we draw the line Marriage new Marriage A loving union New So when you dropping again? Next month? That's what's fucked up about media, right?

Nigga just poured his heart out into an album I poured everything into it But we're just trying to keep dropping loose Like I gotta stay relevant I can't disappear and shit like that So trying to drop records I'm working on like a little small EP Working on some other shit

That we'll talk about when that shit go off And yeah, so I'm just really Just working on music right now Trying to stay relevant until my like actual like album it's crazy I hate that nigga

nah this is like a mixtape but it's like I hate those niggas that say that and then I became that nigga but it's like

I had to drop though like I had to drop and I felt like I needed to put out something so this was more like a playlist or a mixtape but then I felt like

it wasn't personal enough so then I added like records about it it's a really good album I appreciate that that was an album I think it was an album it's man so then I added like records really good mixtape EP album playlist album the playlist like a collection of songs it is good though but I am trying to drop again are you trying to be one of those artists that gets the new artist grammy 15 years into their career no i'm not trying to don't fuck with me on the next year for some freshman shit then don't even like you can't be a freshman i could be a freshman next year i just dropped my we got

to work on your industry age i'm working on mine now i just i just turned 30 i'm trying to figure out what i could be i think i could i could do 27 this is a dope conversation i couldn't even do 24 25 but i can't air niggas out. What about industry ages? Damn, you know mad industry ages? I do. Mad real ages? I think that's over.

What's Kendrick? 40, 50? I don't think people care. I don't think people care either. That's why it's like a thing for me. Imagine Kendrick being a 40-year-old man. Just male. Kendrick's 40, man.

Don't worry about it. I'm sorry. Go ahead. What did y'all say about him? We was laughing about Kendrick being 40. Y'all was laughing about Kendrick being 40 Don't worry about it I'm sorry Go ahead Get your shit off We was laughing about Kendrick being 40 Yeah Y'all was laughing about

Kendrick being 40 Yeah us Not reason Is Kendrick 40? No No You said he knew Bad people's interests

Like real age And I was being an asshole And I apologize It would have been A cool conversation J-Rock I apologize for that joke Definitely

He gonna shoot y'all niggas No Y'all niggas are really crazy bro all right so snitch spill the beans bro i'm just trying to be the artist that's known for being like the best new rapper i feel like i'm the best new rapper right now jid sent me some stuff on my phone the other day that's completely fine that's completely fine like I think I'm the best new rapper right now. I feel like just from a rapper standpoint, not from an artist standpoint,

I feel like I'm still growing as an artist. But just from raps, I feel like I've... Who's almost as good as you? You think Rhapsody? J.I.D. and Boogie. I feel like those are the two that's super, super close. You think Rhapsody washed you on your album? Nah, I think she had a better verse, though.

That's the first person I'll admit, I think she had a better verse than me. Isn't that the definition? Nah, I think she had a better verse though. That's the first person I'll admit I think she had a better verse. Isn't that the definition? No, no. Washed is like killing the fuck about it. No, but her verse was a lot better.

No, I didn't say that. She killed that verse. She killed that shit. She went crazy. I do think that her verse is better than mine on the album. So why you ain't

changed your verse then? Because I don't do that. Honestly, I don't believe in that. See, he comes from that school. Really? I don't believe in that. believe that that's cool i write my shit like in comparison to what i think i could do and if you come through and do some crazy shit then you came through do some crazy and i like sending niggas my verse first because i feel like if i don't like i feel like i'm gonna win like that's honestly how i feel so i feel like it's better if

i send my verse first that way you at least have the bar and you can just go beat the bar and then the song be better. And you don't know where they're going to take the verse to. A thousand percent. You know what I'm saying? So if we in the same studio, then we can do it at the same time. But I'm never going to send you, like I know some niggas, they send the beat and they be like, yo, put a verse on this. I'm going to put a verse on it. Put our verse on the same time.

That's kind of whack. Yeah, that's your time. Especially if you're making like an album. It doesn't sound like something. It don't go well. But I think rap verse was dope because not only just Like I had bars But she had bars and content Like and that's what I think That she did better

On her verse She went off She went crazy bro I'm not gonna lie Like I might not send Rapper verse first anymore That's real I might be like

You gotta pull up Like I might not send Rapper verse first No more Do you miss touring? I do Desperately Mainly the money

But I also miss the fans too Shout out to the fans Same Oh no I meant Same mainly the money but I also miss the fans too shots in fans oh no I meant same on the money not the fans I'm joking fans but man those checks like I had plans this year man I had big plans I would have had to Own the end I would have had to Own the end And when you have a girl Torin is great That's a thousand percent

Nah get just Go a little More in depth Rory go ahead You gotta go home You know that right I stopped paying the wifi So she can't listen to this podcast

Oh damn You smart You smart You've been paying more attention To your visuals I've been seeing your visuals I have I've been taking pride in them

The whole shit Like this was my first time Like being real like Into an album Like as far as See now I'm saying A mixtape As far as

A playlist As far as like the creative Like vision of it all You know what I'm saying So I've been real into like Actually writing my treatments Okay And actually coming up with Like the entire concept of it all you know what I'm saying so I've been real into like actually writing my treatments and actually coming up

with like the entire concept of it all and then I also have like a great team like I feel like on the re-release we just kind of put that shit out

because it was already out so this time we actually have like a great creative team and shit like that so we actually dove into the creative process of it so

more artistry do you write songs knowing this is going to be a dope video or is the video not even in your mind the video well that's one thing

that Dot taught me is like when you write a song think about the video and the performance so now I write songs thinking about performance and videos in mind while I'm writing the shit

and that was one of the reasons that sucked about this project was because I wrote a lot of this project thinking about live shows that's why like a lot of the records are even more uptempo and shit cause I went on tour with uh jid and um even though i thought

my music was great from there you have it it didn't go well over live like all the time like it was some nights it was good and then some nights it wasn't and i felt like it was because i wasn't thinking about the live show of it who went on first on jizz tour my guy hard oh hard I went on for no I mean out of you and you oh yeah I was opening yeah yeah I sent out I don't say anything and because he's laughing honestly Joe's cuz we have the same sense of humor, dog. So that shit is really funny to me. It's hard for me to not laugh. I can't stop. Yo, definitely five minutes ago, you remember I said, who was on the next almost as good as you?

I mean, Jin. Jin almost as good as me. That don't got nothing to do with it. But he did me a solid, took me on his own. That don't got nothing to do with it. Let me open up for him. That don't got nothing to do with talent, bro. for him That don't got nothing to do with talent bro You won't go on another one buddy Nah

That's the thing about me But that's the thing though About me and Jid Like we have those arguments Like I've told Jid to his face That I'm better than him He done told me to my face That he better than me

You get what I'm saying Like we have that type of relationship I can see y'all doing a project Hold on let's call him Let me develop that relationship Let you work on it Hey what do you know I have Jits phone number two

Call her I don't want him to think We talking shit But that's my guy Call my dog We just gonna say hi Yeah call him real quick You gotta FaceTime him though

He in Jamaica That's what I'm saying That's my dog Like I really That's really my nigga I can see y'all doing a project together I'm not FaceTiming Jits Do FaceTime audio

Or FaceTime audio How you do that? You should FaceTime him. Look at my old ass nigga. How you do FaceTime audio. How you do FaceTime audio. They don't make it the easiest. Look, he calling back.

Just answer the FaceTime. Now you there now. Yeah, don't worry about it. He has to look at you. It's fine. I feel like a dick already. There's nothing cool about it. I'm trying to straighten your face out.

He's on vacation. Shit, how you doing, man? Bro, how you? Tell them we're being recorded. I'm excellent. We're live on air right now, so don't say anything that would incriminate you. I'm good. I'm in Jamaica, bro.

I know. Reason told me you were in jamaica destiny that's reason what the fuck y'all need is calling me y'all all three of y'all bro all four y'all where bro at bro here i'm in new york idea he in new york i'm in new york what's the deal you say he's better than you. What's going on, bro? That nigga telling y'all how I'm the best rapper alive and I don't give a fuck about none of the fuck. No K-Dot, no Cole, no Jay-Z. I don't care about Jay-Z. I told him I was a better rapper than you and I told him that you think you're a better

rapper than me. Bro, J-I-D is the best rapper in CDE. That's what I'm trying to tell you. He believes that. And it's the is the best rapper in CDE. That's what I'm trying to tell you. He believes that. And it's a thing. He really believe that bullshit. That's the crazy thing. He really believe that shit.

It's not crazy. I believe it too now. Jim, it's not serious shit. He also said that. The fact that I said it so easily, you know it's already in the rap. Yeah. One thing I will say about Jim. Jim got like nine diss tracks on niggas waiting. I will say that.id Jid got like Nine diss tracks

On niggas waiting I will say that Jid one of them Strategic nigga He got shit just waiting To drop in the car I don't do that I respect that

But wait Hey Jid How you You got diss tracks For niggas that you Haven't beefed with yet I got I got diss tracks

For niggas who think Shit is sweet Exactly And I got I got a list of niggas Who I think shit is sweet Bro Jid a mad scientist With shit like that I don't know I don't know I niggas who I think shit is sweet. Bro, Jid and Mad Scientist was shit like that.

I don't know. I don't know. I'm crazy a little bit. I love this. Maybe because I'm short. That's what I'm saying. Me and Jid come from the same club.

That's why we can have those conversations. We can have those conversations. Me and Reeves talk about this all the time. That's what I'm saying. We talk about strategic shit. Did you just call him Reeves?

Yes. That's what I'm saying. So people do call you Reeves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so it's official now. I didn't believe it. I saw the chain, but now I see it. Hey, yo. Hey, yeah. All right, so it's official now. I didn't believe it. I saw the chain, but now I see it. Hey, yo.

Hey, I'm going to say this to all y'all. I just sent this nigga Joe two tracks the other day. This nigga hasn't responded. I think he hates this nigga. Yo, no. You didn't even give him the light? No, because you know what it is? When niggas send tracks.

He got a track for you. He got a diss track for you right now. I'm telling you, that's how Jig the... Now, I'm telling you. But when n niggas send tracks, I go. He got a track for you. He got a diss track for you right now. I'm telling you, that's how Jig now. But when niggas send the tracks, I go listen. I know you listen. I know you listen. I know you've been vibing to it. At least give me an emoji.

No, no, no, no. I'm not coming back to tell you how fire you are. You heard it. You heard it. Hey, look, I sent him some shit with one of his favorite niggas. You feel me? No, listen. It's a few joints.

Listen, I tried to say that earlier. I said, yo, Jen sent some shit in my phone and Ree said, I'm better than that nigga. And I was like, all right. All right,

then I won't bring him up again. I don't know where the relationship stands. I love that nigga so much, bro. And you know what? That's the shit about it, bro. Niggas don't be able to say that shit

and laugh it off. Niggas be throwing their feelings. That's why this rap shit is like like that's why i love reason because you don't give a fuck bro and i don't give a fuck either i'm just being myself bro yeah but y'all both but y'all not but no but y'all both really good though if either one of you were inferior just inability i don't know how easy you can oh no if i was really whack you couldn't play with just Have that conversation Yeah you couldn't That conversation Would never happen Yeah that's what I'm saying

You couldn't just Have that conversation And y'all too Who else is like this In y'all peer group Boogie There's some niggas Saba

Yeah Saba Saba's really dope Saba's really dope I fuck with Saba Saba is really dope Even Like Smino has a different Thing about him

But he says things It's a few people Who can fuck around And I've heard shit On Smino And that's really really crazy really dope even even even like like smino has a different thing about him but he says things it's it's a few people who can fuck around that's really really crazy but i'm better than all the niggas i don't give a fuck what none of the niggas talk about he really believes that shit that's the crazy thing about it yeah but it's different when you could say it it's different when you believe it all you want this nigga is saying it and to y'all faces he got a joint with st john that's crazy that's real i don't give a fuck about none of these rappers. That's why I fuck with you.

What you doing in Jamaica? You working? I'm working. I'm finishing the album up, bro. I'm finishing it. That nigga on vacation. Don't let that nigga try to cap and say he working.

That's the only reason I'm here. We having fun. It looks cute, but niggas is really working for real. Hey, J.I.D., pardon me. Really, do me a favor. Your album came out.

Your rollout happened. Don't step on his, all right? All right? He cold. Hey, he a cold brother. That's a cold nigga. That's a cold nigga over there, bro. You ain't got to tell me. I know.

I know he is. Listen, man. When I come out of retirement, if I need a verse from you and Reason, I can get one. It's Freeze. Easy. Free. I'm finna drop the freestyle tonight. Hey, yo. The hey yo the artist formerly hey i'm dropping a freestyle tonight because reason said he's better than me mark this i'm dropping this out like because he because he said that

it's kind of just drop one one verse i got you i'm dropping it just because he said it on soundcloud he just look now you're scared. No, I'm not scared. Now you're scared. It ain't going to be about him. It ain't going to be about him. I'm going to just drop a freestyle. I'm going to just flex some vibrato, right? I'm going to flex some vibrato. Call it a little more liberal. Hey, Roy. I'm going to drop some vibrato.

Yo, I'm hanging up. Listen, JID, have fun recording. When you get back, when you back him over here. I'm going to be back. Maybe I got to decide who's president. Are you still coming to LA? When I figure out who the president is. That's fair. Don't let Moe hear that.

Are you still coming to LA? Can we do that? What'd you say, bro? Are you still coming to LA? Can we figure that out? Yeah, bro. I'm coming as soon as I leave here. I got you.

Okay, man. I got you. You know what we doing. You know what we doing. I got you. JID's talk to you like my chicks be talking to me. You still coming out here Coming this way Go ahead man. We love you. I'm gonna text back. I'm gonna text back them tracks. No, he's not Right now I'm gonna take you to strike. I'm dropping it right now. Thank you. Send me the reason this yes

now i'm gonna take you to the track i'm dropping tonight right now thank you send me the reason this yes oh it's not a diss it's not a diss love nigga uh i love that nigga all right bless bro appreciate y'all peace yo i love that energy yeah me too i love that nigga man no jit is a good dude yeah he's a super cool super solid dude that was hilarious man and you and you did make a good like if he wasn't tight like that then like i wouldn't i wouldn't even have those conversations and i wouldn't even like fucking around with it like that i like the drive that relationship um what else do i need to get to before this ends i earlier i wanted to talk about uh the owner of samsung dying uh and samsung being responsible for a third of korea's economy was it korea i'll read let's see let's see who bill who bill no i'm just gonna read it rory lee con he who built samsung electronics into a global

tech giant but whose tenure was marred by a pair of white collar crime convictions that were wiped away by presidential pardons died october 25th he was 78 His death was announced by Samsung, which did not specify the cause. Mr. Lee had been treated for lung cancer in the late 90s and was, I can't see. Incapacitated. Incapacitated for four years after a 2014 heart attack

that led his son, Jay Young, to take over running the company. Chairman Lee, hold up, go back. Chairman Lee was a true visionary who transformed Samsung. I don't care about that. Give me to the fight over his estate.

You got to come to Dallas. A little bit. Something light. When you own half the country. Everyone's TVs. Listen, I just thought it was interesting that his his lawyers because I get scared of stuff like this like I hear a lot of stories about like lawyers what happens no but just what happens when people die and you know with your estate happened with parents happened with everybody

that dies but yeah so now his lawyers are fighting with his son over who gets this money. In addition to his son, survivors include his wife, two daughters, another daughter. Oh, another daughter died by suicide in 2005. Moon will send condolence flowers to the funeral. I don't want to hear about all that. You can't tell me about the fight? And that sounded insensitive. That's not what I meant.

I just wanted to hear more about the fight, but Man won't pull that up they fighting over 17 billion is what they doing yeah that's about right couple dollars you don't think they can break that up nah somebody want more

I need all of it the son who probably don't know nothing about it is saying yeah it's mine they said the son is an ex-con man I don't know

I don't know anything about this but most of the con men do have Samsungs it's just a lot of money to fight over and Dabble and Coke yeah I don't know. I don't know anything about this, but most of the comment do have Samsung's. It's just a lot of money to fight and dabble in Coke. Yeah. When last time you did Coke Roy?

Um, what year is it? 2020, 2013, maybe. Oh, so yesterday, seven years.

That's a long time. Okay. Easy. Easy. They just take their drugs serious. Triggered over there. No, that's a while. Why, you got a plug? No.

No, I don't have a Coke plug. No, I've only done Coke twice. I didn't like it. All right, is there anything else that I have to get to here? Des Bryant to the Ravens practice squad. That's pretty interesting. I'm a little terrified to get to here. Dez Bryant to the Ravens practice squad. I'm a little terrified

to get in there. Why is that so funny? You right. I apologize, Dez. You think it's funny that he's on the practice squad? No. Oh, that he's in the league?

That's Dez? That was just funny that that was something that you thought was news. I love your music, but I'm so glad that you don't do music anymore just because of the fact that you can be this nigga and not care about a career. It's true.

No, Dez is my guy. I did think that that was news. That is news. I thought it was news. He was one of the best receivers in the league at one point. For sure. Odell tore his ACL? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm receivers in the league at one point for sure Odell towards ACL yeah I feel bad for Odell

that was whack I feel like he's had like a bad run just of luck like as far as like career score past two years yeah it's been rough

I'm hoping that that gets me more production out of Jarvis Landry sorry yo you know what alright I'm here with a hot take I'm here with a hot take

I forgot I forgot that I'm here with a hot take. I'm here with a hot take. I forgot. I forgot that I'm here with a hot take. Hey. It's time for another one. It's time for another one. I'm early with this one. I'm early here. It's going to sound crazy.

Justin Herbert. Is that the quarterback that I said looked good? San Diego. Yeah. Charters. Led my team. Led looked good? San Diego. Charters. Led my fantasy team to victory. LA Chargers. Led my fantasy team to victory with 50 points or 45 points or whatever he had,

but that's not what I want to talk about. Justin Herbert, I've been singing his praises since Oregon, only to hear all of the ESPN quarterback analysts drop him way down when it was draft time. That was confusing to me because he was clearly the man in Oregon. But cool. Forget about all that. Because when I look at Patrick Mahomes today, all I keep saying is,

damn, how did we all not see that coming? Justin Herbert in year one looked like what I thought Justin Herbert was about to look like. And if this continues, then what? If this continues into year three, Patty Mahomes in year three, right? Yeah. All right, my hot take is this. Justin Herbert will one day be

the second best quarterback in the league. That's my hot take. My brother cut. I'm early. No. I don't think so. I'm early. I'm early.

I like the kid from the Ravens And Patrick Mahomes Still top two in the league And I like I like Kyler Murray I think it's going I think it's headed towards Just shameless

But my brother coach Herbert So shout out to my brother We didn't worry about you bro I'm just shameless black But I think that it's headed Into a black quarterback league though I think that white quarterbacks

Are in trouble I'm going to be honest with you I think that it's going to be black quarterback league, though. I think that white quarterbacks are in trouble. I'm going to be honest with you. I think that it's going to be Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, and then whatever other black quarterbacks come in. And then the fast white quarterbacks and then the slow white quarterbacks. I mean, Russell Wilson ain't slowing down either. That's a fact. Yeah, exactly.

He looks like the MVP of the league right now. I truly feel like it's headed to a black quarterback league, which I think will be dope Because I think that The reason why the NBA Stands for more shit Than the NFL Is because Black players

Are the best players So I feel like Once the NFL gets to a point To where the black players Are the best players Predominantly Then the NFL Would then have to stand

For something Black players Have been the most Important position Best players in the NFL For years But the most important Position is quarterback

Okay not a quarterback Best also importance Because NFL for years. But the most important position is quarterback. That's what I mean. Okay, not a quarterback. Best also importance because it's like you take the quarterback away and that's different. So it's like. Not a quarterback. Exactly. I was just trying to pick up somebody that was white.

I know. I took it to a whole different level. I like him though. I told you. That game I saw. I took it to a whole different level. I like him. He was rough. Big enough for white guys.

I couldn't believe he was a rookie. When they said he was a rookie, I was like. Easy. Nah, he nice though. I'm a fan of the whites, Joe. Nah, it's two at a time, man. It's two at a time. I couldn't believe he was a rookie. When they said he was a rookie, I was like, you don't look like a rookie. Nah, he nice, though. I'm a fan of the whites, Joe. Nah, it's two a time, man. It's two a time. I like him.

It's two a time. Watch the Chargers game. No, I saw it. I told you. He looks good. I couldn't believe he was a rookie when the announcer said that. I got him on a fancy team, so I'd be watching. He don't look rookie good.

No. He looks way better than a lot of vets. Veteran quarterbacks. He is. I'd love it if they still had Melvin Gorin but whatever. And I think the chart.

You know what? Let me stop talking about football. What else do I need to talk about? Nothing that I need to talk about. I think I'm done.

Okay. There's nothing that I have to get to on this list. Certainly. Jay-Z is selling drugs legally. That's great. Really? As is Sean

Kemp. We didn't announce that last part. That's fire. Shout out to Sean Kemp. And weed's not really a drug. That's herb. That's fire. I want some Jay-Z weed. We'll get into the Mike and Boosie thing, I guess guess another time because I'm terrified.

Of both? Yeah, no, both. Did I miss anything really dope? I said, did I miss anything really dope? Yeah, you actually missed a pretty good podcast. I feel like I came into the hot takes.

Surf quit battle rap? Man, surf got me hot bro Like This nigga dog Same Same Same I can even say

I've been avoiding I've been avoiding covering it Like he too good To be doing shit like that bro Like I just don't understand it Repeatedly Repeatedly Literally repeatedly bro

I was gonna call him on the pod But I'm not gonna put him in that spot Cause I would have to ask I don't get, but I'm not going to put him in that spot. Because I would have to ask. I don't get it. Because he's legitimately, in my opinion, from a talent perspective, and I hate even saying this because I feel like I'm enabling him. But from a talent perspective, I truly feel like he's the best nigga in battle rap. I truly feel that way.

But this nigga just does this shit every single time. And it's just, from a fan perspective, it's just frustrating. Yeah, I'm sick of it. Yeah. I'm sick of it. You know what I think it is? And I meant to tell Cirque fan perspective, it's just frustrating. Yeah, I'm sick of it. Yeah. I'm sick of it. You know what I think it is? And I meant to tell Cirque this. I wanted to text him.

I think he might be smoking before he battle raps, before he performs. And I know when you smoke, you get cotton mouth. But this last one, I hate even saying this. I feel like I'm enabling him. But this last one, I feel like he was trying to do more. I feel like he was trying like rebuttal and kind of get in his bag and it fucked him up instead of just doing his rounds like this one i don't think that it was a normal surf situation i think that he was trying to like like i watch battle rap like religiously i feel like he was really trying to do something else and expand his game and it threw him off but it's like

in the lux battle he told us that the echo in the room threw him off but that's what i'm saying it's like when you when you have a history or something now's not the time to pop a willy like nigga just ride a bike just ride a bike and get to the finish line

and you know what I'm saying like now's not the time to try to do willies and shit and so that's my whole thing about that but I do think that this time

it wasn't like normal surf shit I think he was actually trying to like rebuttal and switch his shit up but it's definitely frustrating but West Coast is running battle rap though so I fuck with that results not excuses yeah yeah oh wait with daylight and all

Gucci daylight rum nitty those three like I'll be forgetting rum nitty is there niggas don't count Arizona it's West yeah yeah but niggas don't guess what yeah it's West so yeah we mean that's a mean three it is and they lights a fucking alien fucking alien daylight is crazy yeah see daylight to me is overall the most

most skilled most talented were you saying that before his last battle though honestly I just honestly want to know I've been saying this for years because I felt that way

but I just wanted to like make because I've seen it a lot now so I want to just this entire podcast when Lux was here okay whenever he was here

actually I did see that episode you're right you said it there even before that you did say that you said that he's the only one that Lux has nothing to be able to

challenge him with you did say that I always said if Daylight just stopped and I told him this at the Total Slaughter I said you stopped that gimmicky shit

he was our favorite at Total Slaughter that's crazy you a problem just because certain shit that he puts together i'm like other don't do that no he hasn't done the gimmicky in a long time but and miraculously well period in his life like no gimmicky at all he just beat daylight that's true well i don't think it's a coincidence that the gimmick stopped and the acclaim came

yeah that's a fact yeah you lean into your strong suit and for him and he beat a good rock like that was a great rock yeah incredible rock like I haven't seen rock in that bag for a minute you know I mean and that was like a gentleman sturdy clear like clear every single round the gentleman sturdy it was a nice 30 no shout out to like I keep saying I'm trying to fund the daylight Lux battle I don't think Lux want that. I'm going to keep it real with you. I don't, bro.

I don't think Lux want that, bro. He does. I might be biased. I've been knowing Light for a long time. Light called me twice. Lux wants that. I've been knowing Light. No, he don't.

Listen to me. He welcomes that. Lux wants that battle. And I think Lux might win. Lux is not turning that down. You think Lux might win? I think so. I'll put bread up that Lux don't win.

Okay, we can do that. I would have to watch that battle seven times before saying a decider. I don't think Lux can be Digg think so I'll put bread up That Lux don't win Okay we can do that I would have to watch That battle seven times Before saying a decider I don't think Lux Can be Digglin I don't think he can I think Lux has a whole

Another thing that he Could tap into And he would have to Tap into it I don't think Lux If I'm gonna be real with you I don't think Lux Can beat Rock

Like I think that Lux Honestly I'm gonna be real I think that Lux Has had a Yo your album was dope Let's just get back to that Your album was really good Like I really enjoyed This is my time I understand that you Sat had a Yo your album was dope Let's just get back to that Don't worry about it Your album was really good I really enjoyed this

I understand that you sat in traffic I love this shit Don't disrespect New York like that again Let's pour another time Rockers are just beating Lux Lux is incredible bro But I don't know Like I just

Let's pour another time He's one of those He's a L It goes over your head You just don't understand Not If you was like Really a rapper You would know

If you really could understand That type of shit Then he would be like Nah Shout out Lux Yeah Lux is beating T-Roc

That daylight battle though I don't know Okay I don't know Maul Do you have anything to say About India Love

Saying If she's wearing a mask, why the fuck do people keep asking me to pull it over my nose? Well, before he answers that, I saw the video. I love India Love, and I stand with her.

I think Maul finally linked India Love because it sounds like she's getting her rhetoric from Maul. What do you mean? She was sitting there saying Corona don't exist. It's all for the Democrats. I'm going to keep my mask down. sitting there saying Corona don't exist. It's all for the Democrats. I'm going to keep my mask down.

I never said Corona didn't exist. Never said that. I think she also said she's an Aquarius. That was my favorite part. She said, I have to keep my mask down because I'm an Aquarius.

And then I said, let me change my birth date so I don't have to wear this fucking mask either. That's a good idea. I didn't think about that. Yeah, I stand with India Love. I love India Love.

I support her. I protect her. Y'all talked about Sweetie and the Berkens. I just want to know. That's a good idea, bro. I didn't think about that. Yeah, I stand with India Love. I love India Love. I support her. I protect her. Y'all talked about Sweetie and the Birkins. I just want to know. Last week. I don't want to dive into it. That's not our thing. I was just asking.

I didn't even want to dive into it. We discussed it last week. We did. It's not even just Sweetie. It's everybody. You said what? Do you have thoughts? No, I just really wanted to know.

You're dressing a little Birkin-ish. I just really wanted to know What y'all felt about it Honestly I just wanted to know I don't care about that shit We love Sweetie I love Sweetie too Huge fan

I let the women talk about Birkins And I've never seen a Birkin I've never bought one Seen one I'm not on the list of people That can buy one You never bought a Birkin For a girl?

It took me a long time To succumb to buying the Chanel Honestly Like the five and six down The smaller the bag it took me a long time to succumb to buying the Chanel. Honestly. Like the five and six, the smaller the bag, the higher the price was. Like it took me a while to get to that $6,000, $7,000 bag.

That's surprising. I was doing the Louis bag. They gave you the big, big, big bag for $3,100, $3,300. You buy it for your queen and she was the most excited. She could put everything in it. Yeah.

Now, they changed the bag game. I'm not that nigga no more. I feel that. I'm not. Yeah, no. I'm not that nigga no more. I knew nothing about bags. Christmas time,

I went right in that Chanel store because I heard all the rapper chicks talking about it. I said, let me go get her a Chanel. I went in there and saw the prices and said,

these rapper chicks are the most irresponsible people I've ever heard about. I said, why are you putting this out in the world that we should be buying these $6,000 bags? I didn't know it should cost that much.

And why are y'all doing that with white appliances in your kitchen? Okay. I don't understand the relevance of that part. The white fridge. You gotta at least have the silver appliance too. Come on. The white fridge,

white stove. I gotcha. The all white shit. Come on. I fridge, white stove. I got you. The all white shit. Come on. I thought you meant like white people appliances. That's what I mean. Okay. Just the color white.

Got you. In your kitchen, don't you? I'm with you. Yeah, yeah. It's bad. Chinese people make appliances. I'm going to play a little tune. All right. I premiered this record.

Huh? I premiered this record on this podcast. And now it's a sleeper. Did you really? Yes. I played it before it came out. I love this song. On this podcast.

That's my song. You got good taste, man. Me and Parks just had a session with him. All right, fine. So I will switch it up. Well, that was Ph phony people Megan stallion. Oh here. We go I love this yeah, you have a sleeper Roy fine. I was thinking should I leave the joint we cut Even though I'm not dropping There's some shit that'll be out in February. Sucks to me. Because I wouldn't love you.

I'd watch the whole world burn to see you die. Oh, your man Stain is on a rampage. Fam. November 20th. To open your album like this. To open your album like this. Sucks to me. Because I wouldn't love you.

I'd watch the whole world burn to see you dance Jump over bombshells, running through cartels Thought we would die growing old, holding hands The story don't start all great, I'm a gorilla gone ape I'm just a street nigga tryna make it to a million all the wrong ways I'm running all along crazy, They say I was born the wrong shade I should've made it five years ago My nigga, I was really born late

I used to carry sticks in my clothes I carried work in my shoes It's below the power of the heart It's my shit, it's my shit, it's my shit Running through this life Until 21, 22 Until I had to make a choice You, you, you're very

Just keep on going Just picture when you get there Until 21, 22, until I had to make a choice You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you watch the whole world burn and see you dance Running through cocktails Jumping through pop shells I thought we would die growing old Holdin' hands It sucks to be a woman Cause I wouldn't love you I'd watch the whole world burn and see you dance

Jump off the boxes Running through cocktails I thought we would die growing old Holdin' with that girl, no holding back So I tell nobody about my dreams, workin' at the hotel Cause I don't think confessions over there might go well And goin' back to the hood, DJ, I of course fell You either kill or you're all killed, so I said Moved uptown, Cairo, you give me a blessed day

Mama kicked me out back then, she did it ingratiously Came on the home with her locks changed on New Year's Day I'm glad we're doing better, we're both okay I stayed there for like years, oh bless her heart and soul She's worth a thousand more, she's worth a thousand years And she's right on the run I made a promise I'll keep it, won't ever betray her She said she believed in me

Just keep on going Just make sure when you need to leave the door open I said you know who I am It's a kid from Brooklyn I ain't abandoning it Should you left me broken Sucks to be you, cause I would've loved you I'd watch the whole world, but I'd see you dance

Running through cocktails and jumping through pop cells I thought we would die, girl, no, no, no It sucks to be you, cause I would've loved you I'd watch the whole world Learn to see you dance Cramp over bombshells And running through cocktails Though we were not grown No more than heads

It sucks to be you Brand new music from St. John That's called It Sucks To Be You Pre-order his album November 20th This is the opening track of the album. What a way to start an album.

Yeah. Really dope record. He got a joint with J.I.D. That's crazy. Yo, J.I.D., I didn't, it didn't dawn on me

until just now, but he's getting, they gave him a destination to go finish his album. I used to always want that. Go get your mind

right, go to Jamaica. I'm telling you, that's cat, bro. I used to always want that. That's cat, bro. What's that? He did not go to finish his album. I used to always want that. Go get your mind right. Go to Jamaica. I'm telling you, that's cat, bro. I used to always want that. He did not go to finish his album. He down there chilling? His birthday is Halloween. He went for his birthday. But it don't matter if

he's staying to finish his album. Y'all know I love Jay. You made your album in America, man. We just went over this. You recorded your shit here? You made your album in America We just went over this You made your album in here? And you recorded your shit here? You recorded your shit in America That's why it's not an album

That's why it's a playlist Shout out my nigga Jib Finishing his album in Jamaica You think he was Lauryn Hill? I'm just saying I always wanted a Destination album That's it He out there with the homies

So he out there with Ali Shout out Ali Oh maybe he is finishing Ali's out there Maybe he is finishing See Maybe that's over my See

My tour You ain't even want Ali to mix your vocals I didn't I didn't at the time I'm a little nigga I had my niggas I fuck a reason

I had my niggas I was a little nigga Because Ali is probably The most sought out mixer And he said Yo I don't even likeas. I fuck a reason, dude. I have my niggas. I'm a little nigga. Because Ali is probably the most sought out mixer. And he said, yo, I don't even like that y'all want me to mix that shit. No, no. I just had him like it. Ali's the best mixer in the game.

Ali, you mixed out your record? No, no. No, Serban did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just a little nigga. So I try to stay with my niggas. That's all that is.

All right. I was going to play the- Who mixed your shit? Kytel. Shout out Kytel, Low Key Studios, wherever that is. Kyt my niggas. That's all that is. All right. I was going to play the... Who makes your shit? Kytel. Shout out Kytel, Low Key Studios, wherever that is. None of the two ill niggas?

None of the two ill niggas. None of the two ill niggas. It's only two people that can mix out, right? It's only two niggas in the world that mix all out. They are busy. All right. I was going to play the Reason record from my project, They are busy Alright I was

I was gonna play The Reason record From my project But I'm not dropping That shit anytime soon So it's too soon This is SG Lewis Lucky Day

I'm gonna play some more Some Bare Feet Nah Me and Reason got a record though Y'all really like Our R&B podcast now You're the only rap record On my album

Nah That's crazy Nah we play rap Well me and Parks play a lot of rap Nah I'm about to say Y'all the like Are R&B podcasts now You're the only rap record On my album Nah That's crazy Nah we play rap Well me and Parks Play a lot of rap Nah I'm about to say Y'all the only two niggas That play rap

Like when I look at The sleeper On throwback days I do That's what I'm saying Y'all niggas Is really a R&B podcast Nah we play rap That's why I don't understand

Why the niggas didn't turn in Joe retired And turned his back on rap Rory got albums Nah but he was rapping He ain't listen to rap I turned my back on rap Way before that

Oh you didn't listen to rap When you was rapping Nah ain't listen to rap I turned my back on rap way before that oh you didn't listen to rap when you was rapping no that's crazy he was never big on rap

that's why you were so honest cause you didn't know that niggas was lying he came back and said oh niggas is lying

niggas ain't doing what they said holy shit I would've been rapping way different had I known shit I would've been rapping way different Had I known that I would've switched it up

Joe's mad It's about the sauna No this is too funny I'm playing this rock Alright this is S.G. Lewis Lucky Day Some bare feet shit

Up tempo shit Get back on my dance shit It's funny I played this instead of the record we got way too many ppms Four At least I bet we could ride some more I think we're onto something, I want some more Feels so familiar, like I'm in it for Don't just look at me with that glare in your eyes

Just let it happen, beat the fire Your sweat is dripping, getting under my skin I got you open, won't you pull me in Breathe the fire Your sweat is dripping, getting under my skin I got you open, won't you pull me in You pour it on me, slipping into your side Whatever happens Breathe the fire Like shining Diamonds everywhere you go I'm blindin' Don't turn down the stereo Findin'

I'm cuttin' your mazes And just twinin' I'm feelin' amazing Hold on, try me Don't you stop, keep going We on, we on I think we're onto something I wasn't born Feel so familiar like I've been here before

Don't just look at me with that glare in your eyes Just let it happen, be the fire Your sweat is dripping, getting under my skin I got you open, won't you pull me in You pour it on me, slipping into desire Whatever happens, be the fire Higher Never bring me down below

Light it, take me places you can't draw Just find it, got it amazing It's a twining, I'm feeling amazing Hold on, drive me trying Don't just stop I think we're on to something I want some more SG Lewis, Lucky Day, Feed the Fire That goes on for another two, three minutes

Good record You got some more pimp shit, Mo? What's up? Nah, not this week You have to follow up I'm in this Xavier Omar album minutes. Good record. You got some more pimp shit, Mo? What's up? Nah, not this week. You have to follow up. I'm in this Xavier Omar album, man.

I'm really liking this project. album is crazy. I'm going to play a joint office If You Feel album. This is Sir featuring Masego,

friend of the show. I see that look up in your eyes I've got it too So this ain't no real surprise You know it's the right place at the right time With the right mood and the mood lights I'll show you better than I can say You feel a pulse, a pull That raised your tide And every time you bring me to the light Get in that car and Sir

I'm gonna Sir My baby Let your waves crash on my shore Get on this boat and surf I'ma surf that wave I'ma surf that wave Prior to this moment

The thought of drowning made me uneasy Rock wave, rock down I wanna be lost and safe Floating, drowning Rest stroke, I know I will last Cause I feel every ripple, every wave I know you feel the force, a pull That raised your tide

And every time you bring me to the line Get in that boat and surf I'm gonna surf My baby Let your waves crash on my shoulder Get on this boat and Surf I'ma surf that wave

I'ma surf that wave I'ma surf that wave I'ma surf that wave I'ma surf that wave I'ma surf that wave I'ma surf that wave I'ma my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way

I'm on my way That's Xavier Omar, Sir, featuring Masego. Yeah, that's the project I'm locked into now. That album is nuts. Shock me. Shock me, man. This project is crazy. Shout out to Xavier Omar.

Yeah, I downloaded it. I still got to check it out, though. Play some West Coast shit. This is my guy, Reason. Flick it up. Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, I still gotta check it out though place in New, new wit, gotta flick it up Flick it up, flick it up N***a blowin' sick, ain't sick enough Got a new bitch, ain't thinkin' of Pull the drop down, then pick it up Pick it up, pick it up N***a can't wait, wait up now Hoes got six like touchdown Get hit like diamonds, bust down I bust down, I bust down Cart n***a stealin' my stuff now

I can see me in a lot of these n***as Shit start feel like us now, wait N***a so focused, head on straight No new friends nigga dead on way Hoes on Ray Charles treated like baseball Knock it out the park then I slid on safe Knock it out the park then slid on home Reason on fire can't do no wrong These niggas gossip I just want profit came from bottom I just want lobster need my mama Up in the bins no stress no problem Niggas talk shit no comment Niggas ain't really did half the shit to rap bout Nigga you ain't never caught no bodies

You ain't never sold no drugs Nigga you ain't never popped no molly You ain't never wait If I really really said everything niggas ain't did I be ancient you niggas ain't shit Came from the basement glowed up Smoking on snake shit roll up niggas got capes on Hold up stop saving hoes that don't wanna be saved Coming up as a kid I was trying to be Jay I was trying to be Ye I was trying to be Wayne now kids say they trying to be Reason

Feel good nigga still can't believe it's one of my shows I flick it up I don't want all they did now Got a new bitch I ain't think enough New new wit got flick it up Fl shows, I flick it up I don't want all they dinner Got a new bitch, ain't thick enough New, new wit, gotta flick it up Flick it up, flick it up Nigga blow sick, ain't sick enough Got a new bitch, ain't thick enough Tell her drop down, then pick it up

Pick it up, pick it up Nigga who? Solo Nigga what? Your jaw just dropped, my pick it up Pick it up, pick it up I got at least infinity flows Abstract, asshole, asshole Infinity stone, endgame for my enemy, yo

Pin game, incredible, big fangs, incredible, big dog on T-O-P-R-A-P-G-O-D Wait, this shit is easy as winning a spelling bee, spelling the letter B-A-H-I-P-H-O-P-S-A-D-E-D-E Man, amazing grace, you made your bed and I made my plate Fuck if you thinkin', Benjamin Franklin, face to face to face to face to face to face Far hit stages, all of my wages, minimum if you thinkin' Benjamin Franklin, face to face to face to face Face to face, boy his stages, all of my wages Minimum, then I dropped the track That made him feel me, like a cinema How about that, now I'm just killin' him

Break so low, can't dig it up, where your cats get at? Look at my bitch, ass so fat, can't pick it up Pick it up, pick it up, pick up the pace Make it, your heart ain't strong enough Brain ain't smart enough, gang ain't hard enough Dollars ain't long enough, promise I'm droppin' the Jimmy's Pick it up, I don't want all they biddin' up That new bitch ain't long enough, promise I'm dropping the gym, you should pick it up. I don't want all they did, no. That new bitch ain't thick enough.

New, new wig, I flick it up. Flick it up, flick it up. Reasons told us about how he was dancing with Shiggy in his video, so I wanted to make sure that we were like that. Yo, I look nasty. Yo, no, no, he's not. The fuck is wrong with you?

He's not. You and Shiggy dancing? That's how COVID is starting. Yo, every rapper at a video set that the crackhead comes to turn up at, you invite them to the video. You do, a thousand percent. You shoot them. This is free material. No, y'all niggas was where she sleep at.

A thousand percent. Y'all in her crib. Oh, okay. That liquor store is in Carson. I know exactly. Got you. Oh, that's like their version of- That's family.

That's their version of Ask You Larry. You saw a crackhead. I'm doing a pod. I'll call you back, buddy. Ian is not aware of Tuesday nights. I understand. Still. He only manages this podcast.

In his defense this time, I called him outside I called him out he's returning a call on a non crackhead related point of reasons visuals and videos I had sent a text out you know like to a lady friend just a friend

just when I was like yo where you at what you doing when I was trying to link grab a drink or whatever right conversation she gonna reply back I'm on When I was trying to link, grab a drink or whatever. Right. Conversation.

She going to reply back. I'm on set with Reeves. I was nervous until I knew where you was going. I was nervous until I knew where you was going. I'm on set with Reeves

right now doing this vid. I was like, that was crazy. That's my man. He didn't even invite me. I mean, her defense,

you wouldn't have looked right in the video. Did I know you was in LA at that point? I did, huh? And you did invite me I'm joking I wasn't sure

if I knew you but I didn't know she was on the set that story is a real story if you wanted her like now like if you wanted her then I understand

I understand why you're taking this I mean we're on a public podcast yeah one day I'm one day I'm but this is a great topic taking this? I mean, we're on a public podcast. Yeah, one day I'm, one day I'm,

but this is a great topic. This is an awesome topic. Shout out my nigga Rory, man. I was in my kitchen washing dishes one day. Nah, I felt a way.

I'm pulling back. We're going to follow this one. I'm going to follow what they're laughing No. I'm pulling back. We're going to follow this one. No, I'm going to follow what they're laughing at. Yeah, go ahead. No, no, no. Why do they think this is so hilarious, I wonder? Because we talked about it. We had a conversation.

About the girl? It's really my man. It's just a friend, man. About the video. They're talking about the video. It's funny. I figured I'm good at treatments. Listen, don't let Joe get y'all This is a friend, man. About the video. They're talking about the video. It's funny. I figured, like, I'm good at treatments. Listen, don't let Joe get y'all niggas single, man.

He's single now. He want everybody to be single. Like, don't let him get back down to the corner. The funny shit, Joe didn't say a word just now. No, but you're lying. That's Rory and Reese. Joe is a gaslighter. That's Rory and Reese.

Joe is a gaslighter. R&R. That's Roars and Reese. R Joe's a gaslighter. Don't call him Reese. That's Roars and Reese. Roars and Reese. R&R in relationships and we have jokes about things that people in relationships

have jokes about. That's all. I was in mine. Which are faithful jokes. I was in mine. Nothing was going after those jokes. We were just laughing about it.

Faithful jokes. Yeah, that's why you wouldn't know none of them. Faithful jokes is funny. That's when niggas in relationships make jokes about the girls they would fuck if they weren't in relationships.

Is that what y'all saying? Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't want to put it that way. That just sounded like a weird way to phrase it. You wouldn't word it that way? I'm confused. Say what?

That's not the way I want to put it. I wouldn't use those words, but okay. Yo, Tyga, though. We have drugs. Yeah, let me tell you about your mans real quick while they're on this topic. Let me say this and we're going to get out of here. You know, some rappers you just see liking all the same pics that you like. But that works in reverse, too.

So, like, if you see them liking all the pics, then they see you liking some pics, too, right? Mm-hmm. Well, rappers all like the same girls. They all date the same girls, though. I'm in my kitchen. That's true. Washing dishes one day. Recently, too, like a month ago.

I shouldn't even say this, but shit, niggas should have FaceTimed me. And Freddie Gibbs FaceTimed me. We on FaceTime. Like, oh, shit, I hope this nigga's all right, man. Let me make sure my guy Fred is good. I answer the FaceTime. Freddie Gibbs out at a restaurant in LA.

I'm like, all right, where's this going? Why is Fred reaching out to me while he's eating at a restaurant in LA? Alfredo. And you could tell. Alfredo. It's the album rollout. You mean he's eating at a restaurant in LA. Alfredo. And you could tell. Alfredo. It was an album rollout.

You mean he was on brand. Alfredo. That was a funny joke. It was a very white joke. That was good. But I'm saying, you know what a dicker is having small talk with you

that y'all not normally used to having. So I'm like, all right, well, where is this going? And he pans the camera around his dinner date

and it's one of the girls that we both like a lot of the pictures of so now in my head I'm judging the shit out of Freddie Gibbs for thinking I give a fuck that he's out eating with this girl I don't believe Gibbs did that

how about I say that's super petty I don't know Gibbs my guy so I don't think he meant to I was about to say that's super petty I don't know but I don't think Gibbs my guy so I don't think he meant to do it like that but he did it like that and that's all I'm gonna say

and you felt a way like that no I wanted to tell him fam if I wanted her I would have had her immediately like I get what I want

I'm not calling the rappers to show them hey look look yo look at what happens with the lyricists that can actually bag

pretty chicks that's what I'm saying right look who I'm out to dinner with you know what's crazy we won't dig into it but me and my man just had a

conversation me and my nigga LT we just had a conversation about your your list it's impressive stop because that's what's crazy? We won't dig into it, but me and my man just had a conversation. Me and my nigga LT, we just had a conversation about your list. It's impressive. Stop, because that's what's happening to me on this Clubhouse app that you don't know anything about. I don't know anything about it. I'll be in a room, and rappers will come in the room, and it'll be rappers that I never met.

So it's like, there's a rapper etiquette when you're, you know what I'm saying? When you never met a rapper, you never really spoke to him, you heard his music. So these rappers will come in here, and I'll say, I mean, yo what I'm saying when you never met a rapper you never really spoke to him you heard his music but you know so these rappers would come in here and I'll say I mean yo what's up salute

fan of your shit keep rocking king and they'll be like yo Joe I gotta tell you your list your list yo a couple of mine

is on your list and I'm like man stop talking to me about this right here why did that come up why are you and your mans

talking about that nah we was I told him we were headed to the podcast and he was like nigga your list crazy like it just comes up and I was like

yeah nah his list is kinda crazy like for you to not like have like Drake hit records like your list is like wait I don't no

no I hate I hate I hate that I haven't said One word But I Yo Ma hasn't said

Anything I'm sitting here Listening to the story I mean I hate I hate to inform you I hate to let you know Breaking news

Y'all ain't hear NBA Breaking news You had like a One to forty ratio But that's like But that's like I came to let you know, breaking news. Y'all ain't hear NBA? Breaking news. You had like a 1 to 40 ratio. But that's what a cop like you have. Yo, y'all never heard of NBA? Say, Vaughn, what the fuck are you laughing at? You can't laugh at me.

That's a good song. That's a good one. That's a good one. You can't laugh at me. That's a good song. That's a good song. That's a good one. That's a good record. That's a good one. All right. You better add him to time stamp, right? I know that. Now he say you did good.

Now you did your best. Now you did good on NBA. Y'all ain't here weak? Y'all ain't serve him up? Niggas don't name his jokes. Yo, and speaking of visuals That motherfucker Got a record with

Wiz and French And then went to The Boys and Girls Club To shoot a video I was so mad For that video But no bullshit Spotify jerseys on

That motherfucker Went right to the Worst gym in the world Oh my god You got a billboard list though Like for real Like that's like A billboard list

For real So I'm impressed by that. Without any records on billboards. Without, yeah, like. You set it up. I've been drinking, though. I was repeating the last three words he said. What I meant by that is that you did a good job, Joe.

That's what I meant by that, bro. That's what I meant. Thank you, Reeves. That's really what I meant. Rem, I can hear you. I can hear Rem laughing. Oh, Joe. That's what I meant by that, bro. Thank you, Reeves. Rem, I can hear you. I can hear Rem laughing. Mo, you going to check out the NBA video? No.

I saw it. You did good. You did good. Oh, man. They blundered that one bad, bro. Tell somebody they did good on their song. It's funny. You did good. Yeah, no. You tried your best

Performed very well Oh my god I'm so glad Joe was retired bro Like I just want to know I'm a fan This is way better You opened up for Joe

I did open up for Joe Y'all saw that Yeah I opened That was my very first show That was at Los Globos right At Los Globos That was my very first show I still got fans from that show

That was all Love Lost That was some Love Lost Los Globos I remember that show That Globos. That was my very first show. I still got fans from that show. That was all Love Lost? That was some Love Lost. Los Globos. I remember that show. That was some Love Lost. Wait, you opened up that show? I did. I opened up.

I went on right before Joe, too. That was the first time I heard. Just like J.I.D., right? I brought the crowd. So did you sign the paperwork that said everybody put that performance here and signed to Joe for the next 20 years? Give me that chain. This nigga's my art.

This nigga's my art. This nigga's my artist. Top. Top, what the fuck is going on? You didn't know? Top. I signed a paperwork that said you have to bring

75 people or you cannot get on stage. Remember that one? I do. That was a hustle. With Sean Healy. Shout out Sean Healy.

Shout out Sean Healy, man. Thanks for hustling me. And then I met Joe in a meet and greet, and I told him how proud I was. I'm still a fan. I'm scared of this one. No, I told you how proud I was to be able to open. He was like, good looking fam, take the picture. That sound like Joe?

That's like the same thing that happened with him and Benny. I'm telling you, it was something like that. I had a whole spiel. Joe used to shit on his openers. I had a whole spiel. He used to shit on his openers. I had a whole spiel Joe used to shit on his openers I had a whole spiel He used to shit on his openers I had a whole spiel I was like my nigga

I just appreciate how honest you are my nigga and I'm you know I'm honest too and you know I just I appreciate the fact that I was able to

he was like good looking fam take a picture and that's some Joe shit you know honestly you want me to sign you want me to sign your shit

what's up he didn't even offer me a autograph yo the lead the lead singer the lead singer of Emotional Oranges used to rap, right? And he's from LA. And he opened for Joe, too, like years ago, like moon music time. I'm everyone's dad, by the way.

Opened for Joe. And he was telling me this. And mind you, this was like way after. And he was like, yeah, now open for Joe. I was like, why is Chris full circle shit? And he was like, yeah, now over for Joe. I was like, why is Chris full circle shit? And he was like, yeah, he was kind of addicted. It was to a point to where when I met Joe, I'm like, I'm not going to send him this picture of my nigga.

I just going to go back. But you know what the problem is with that? I feel like as an artist, I was always in my own zone, like my own world. I understand that. No, honestly, now that I'm in like position like I like I'm not mad like I'm

like and honestly at the time I didn't feel no way but now that I'm in position I truly truly don't feel it's like bro

you come to a show you don't know who the fucking openers are like we're just gonna call it spade to spade like you're there

you're booked you go on your set at the set time I'm in LA tonight I go to Sacramento in four hours you got bitches set up After the show

With the billboard hit It's different With the billboard hit With the hit It's different A few weeks ago I saw I saw

Wallow From Million Dollar Worth of Game Podcast Shout out to Wallow And he was talking about When we did The Roots Picnic In Philly

And he was talking about How Maul was fucking with them And like Giving them jewels And giving them game And some knowledge And all that was talking about how Maul was fucking with them and like giving them jewels and giving them game and some knowledge and all that shit and he said Maul was super, super, super fly

and he said Joe was on some nut shit. Like Joe wasn't really trying to fuck with us. Joe wasn't really showing love and when he said that, like it bothered me for two seconds because like damn, I don't want to be perceived that way.

Like I don't want to come off that way but looking at it, I could see how it comes off that way but i just was really in i'm i'm not like i wasn't in that zone i'm not in the zone like more more to go and kick it catch up running around with you all that shit cool i'm here to get to it and get out like but i don't want to come off like i'm a dick well we also landed at fucking 6 a.m from boston and went right to the picnic it was like i don't give game away we was in the middle of a tour during that and i don't think there's nothing wrong with that like that's what i'm saying like this shit just like maybe i'm drinking too much but this shit just sensitive bro like i

feel like this whole game is just like niggas think that like niggas think that shit is old to them like niggas think that just because, niggas think that shit is owed to them. Like, niggas think that just because a nigga know your, just because a nigga know your name, you supposed to show love. Just because a nigga know who you are, he supposed to give it up to you. And it's like, bro, like, one thing Top told me that I always remember is you not the nigga till you the nigga. Like, you're not the nigga until somebody, like, that is the nigga says that you're the nigga. And so, it's like, nobody owes you shit. You get what I'm saying? Like, me and Joe have a great relationship. And we talk when we talk, you know get i'm saying like me and joe have a great

relationship and we talk when we talk you know i'm saying he give me game when he want to give me game he don't owe me he don't even owe me to be here right now you know i'm saying like he don't owe me no game he don't owe me like niggas don't owe you nothing if you yeah dude you signed to me man i mean i should do something for you I'm not Eminem Yeah I'm not Oh shit You promo your artist I post your album I promote your album I'm P.R. Reid Shout out to Eminem Eminem does a great job

With his artist This is the best podcast In the world man Do we have a sleeper to play We already played sleepers Alright alright You do know You also signed an Interscope

Shout out I'm not signing No that's an Interscope. Shout out. I'm not signing. No, that's a misconception. Interscope, y'all better let Slawed Al some fuck off. I'll tell you that much, buddy.

Hey, that's a misconception. I'm not Interscope yet. I'm not Interscope yet. No, don't do yet. People know. People think it's... No, no, stay away from it. Don't say yet.

You're right. Just be where you at. Shout out Interscope and Top Dog. Just stay TDE. Oh, that's good to know. J.I.D. I have way more support than you.

Interscope 2, I think. Why do you think I'm opening? I wish Reason could come do all our podcasts. No, no. He fits right in there. Listen, if Everton's music stuff doesn't work out. Yeah. I'm doing it right now

Yo that's the end of this podcast man Thank y'all for rocking with us We appreciate you You could have been anywhere in the world But you're here with us Thank you, thank you, thank you What you doing for Halloween? In the mic, please. In the mic, please.

The microphone. It's still going. You see it's red. That right there. I'm working on Halloween. Yeah. You going to do a couple's outfit with your girl? How do you already know you're working?

He knows the schedule. Because I know that move. That nigga's a liar. That nigga is a bold faceliner. Yo, that's crazy. Your birthday's June 6th? Oh, fuck. I got books to have this thing. Yeah. I didn't even know June 6th? Oh, fuck. I got it. I already booked something.

I have this thing. Yeah, I didn't even know Halloween was what? Yeah. You didn't know Halloween was in October, right? I didn't know Halloween was what? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'm worried Halloween was October.

It's COVID. Come on, let's be responsible. Yo, this was a good vibe, man. If you're listening now, we just won the BET Hip Hop Award for Best Hip Hop Platform. Yeah, Rory wants that award. That's just, no, it's funny. You gotta go, you gotta speak it up. He keeps trying to say we playing.

You gotta speak into existence. Are y'all nominated? It's funny. Are we nominated? Are you? Yes, we're nominated. Damn it. I didn't know it was a category.

Me neither. No, neither did we. They just made it. Neither did we. Yeah, at all. But I'll take it. And we're gonna lose, so that's why I'm just gonna keep saying we're gonna lose, bro So that's why I'm just going to keep saying we're going to lose, bro. Nah, honestly, no.

It's us, the shade room. That's a sick act. Double XL. I'm serious. The Breakfast Club, I promise you. Pull it up. Pull up the nomination screen, man. PR review.

Shout out to the Breakfast Club. I'm going there tomorrow. Oh, nah, nah, nah. We killing all this shit. This nigga's just a fucking media whore. You media slut. He's using us. All right.

Enjoy Charlamagne. Ask you if you have anxiety. Are you saying something about anxiety? That was some Rory hate. That was some Rory hate. That was Rory hating on Charlamagne a little bit. He sprinkled a little bit on there. And if you hating on Charlamagne,

you hating on Kevin Hart. What? Yo, how did hating on Kevin Hart. What? Yo, how did he tie that in? How did he tie that in? See? See? Some of y'all is here with me, though. Listen, I'm trying to get out of here.

Fuck. We just making jokes. I'm trying to end this damn podcast. Shout out to Charlamagne. We're going to follow him. We're friends. Yo, this was a great pod. Thank y'all for joining us.

Charlamagne, my dog. Keep us in. Hey, y'all. I wasn't allowed to do that. We're not that cool. Yo, Reeves is so scared they're going to cancel this interview. Reeves, don't worry about it, man. You're good.

Everybody, everyone that's nominated, Complex, Hip Hop DX, Hot New Hip Hop, Breakfast Club, Joe Budden Pod, The Shade Room, XXL, we are the hip hop platforms. Ah Budden Pod The Shade Room XXL We are the hip hop platforms Let me shut the fuck up Yo man I hope y'all really enjoy it Shade Room be the hip hop platforms For a reason Can y'all fucking shut up

I'm trying to get home Close it I'm trying to close it What y'all think about Boosie and Tyson Man close this shit man What y'all think about Boosie and Tyson? Man, close this shit, man. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.

Until the next time, I bid you a due farewell. Adios, Arrivederci, so long, goodbye. Hasta la vista and all that good shit. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Again, I want to shout out all y'all that went out and voted early. Early voting numbers,

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Thankfully there's a company with a lot of money out there that knows how to do the right thing. And knows how to advertise for real. Yeah, for real. Oh, this is my part right here. Erickson, you went to the bathroom when this breakdown was on. I was grinding. I was grinding on something.

I need to know everybody's level of thoroughness in the hood. Come here. Rory was in a circle dancing with his cap of friends. I was with the bitches, nigga. We're different. It's different. You have a cap that's full of me. Say that one to's different. Yeah, you had Kappa's for a while.

See that one in my channel? I'm like, Kappa's had this fuck. Kappa's had bitches. I'm not going to lie. I've been to a lot of Kappa parties. Kappa's had bitches. Yeah, so sit Indian style and shut up. Where is my dog?

Play your song. Kappa's had bitches. For real. Kappa Christmas, Kappa Halloween. Kappa's have women. How do the Kappas do in LA? Kappa's have women. Because they wear red and do the same sign. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. No, Capa Halloween. Capas have women. How do the capas do in L.A.? Because they wear red and do the same song. That's crazy.

That's crazy. That's crazy. That sounds terrifying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I was off mic Rory Rees won't shut the fuck up Did you see the Joe Rogan No Joe Rogan Yo Moe where you going now You should have been pissed Fucking wide hip nigga