The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 391 | "Steam Room"

Episode Date: November 18, 2020

Since the previous episode, Jeezy has found a new opponent in Gucci Mane (replacing T.I.) for the upcoming Verzuz battle and the guys react and give their predictions on the historic reunion (22:24). Joe then gets in his bag regarding the current energy surrounding Hip Hop culture (38:45), an update on HBO's "The Undoing" (POTENTIAL SPOILER ALERTS) (1:09:33), and the pressure Clubhouse faces now that Twitter has announced a chat room feature (1:19:27). Also, an update on Taylor Swifts masters (1:41:15), James Harden potentially coming to the Brooklyn Nets (2:11:19), and Technology vs Government (2:25:10)!   Sleeper Picks Joe | Gucci Mane - “So Icy” (Ft. Young Jeezy)  Rory | Hailes - “Come Thru” (Ft. Jonathan Singletary) Mal | SAINt JHN - “Pray 4 Me” (Ft. Kanye West)  Parks | Salaam Remi - “Really Real Out Here” (Ft. Black Thought & Common)

26, 27 Hot in the panties Hot in the panties Yes, that's when the clocks start Hot in the panties They know what time it is 26, 27 Nah, you gotta know what time it is

When is our podcast Gonna grow up? Do y'all ever ask yourselves that? Listen, growing up is a trap Like when you hear some of the Some of the shit we say Like, you ever think like Wow, man

We're like children still I mean This is my safe space. Look how we come in. Yeah. Coming in hot. Yeah. We're going to have sex forever.

As long as I can. Hopefully. Hopefully. God willing. I see my, I see my dissension in front of me. Let me just tell you. Hey,

if we go, if we go on our projections. The demise has started. You're sealing, you're sealing this projections. The demise has started. Your ceiling is. Your ceiling is right there. Niggas never try to look into their sex future. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess I never really thought about it.

I think about it. Feeling like Cap on any given Sunday. Wait, and then in the chitter chatter house, right? Oh, this is kind of funny. This is how I knew my demise was in front of me. I'm in some of the rooms with the baddies and the young boys the 24 25 yo young boys they're sharp they had energy oh they witty quick with the joke what how did he know what she wanted

and they're like respectful but the right amount Of disrespect Like yo Joe Scroll down So you don't see I'm backing the ham out on him I'm like yo I used to be aggressive Like yo I remember being that

Politely aggressive Oh man They're like Joe You back yours out I'm looking for the right photo Nah you know Nah You trying to recycle the photos

That's crazy Nah my lighting And shit Shit ain't right, man. Fuck it, man. Putting the hammer on Cheddar House is crazy. That's a different type of confidence. Listen, we approaching 2021.

We got to do what we got to do out here, man. You right. At 40, when the tricks start failing, you just got to go for the knockout. Yeah, I'm definitely at that age almost where it's like- Yeah, I can put my dick on the internet? No, I mean, I'm always doing that. Hopefully. All of our dicks are on the internet, I'm definitely at that age almost where it's like... Yeah, I can put my dick on the internet? No, I mean, I'm always doing that. Hopefully.

All of our dicks are on the internet. I'm always doing that. Yeah, but my shit is sleep on there. It's different. I keep looking for the right window

to redeem my shit. My shit is sleep. My shit on there tucked away Taking the greatest naps On the internet He's got the shower or something Oh my god I was taking a weight progress pic

I wasn't really trying to Be on firm You get butt naked You get butt naked and take a weight loss progress pic? Keep your underwear on, you sick nigga. For the progress pic? No, man. What is wrong with y'all?

I'm not doing this with y'all. Your dick losing weight too is hilarious. Shit was tucked away nighty night. Devil of mad insecure. Yeah. Timid ass dance Alright I see what we on I see what we on today

Yeah man Wait till I find that right window I'ma shock the world I'ma ether the internet Yo once you hit like 38 Once you hit 38 You don't care how You walk around in front of women

Putt naked Your body look nasty Nah I started doing that hit 38, you don't care how, you walk around in front of women, putting it, your body look nasty. I started doing that at like 28. I don't give a fuck, man. I'm 40. I'm sending bitches, bitches, videos of me and other bitches. Yo, look what I, hey. Yo, I'm the prime.

That's what I was doing. Look how I wore, look how I wore her out. It could be you. Come, come through. It could be you, 10 years ago. This video is really low risk. I mean, yeah, that's from 2008. He said it's highly real. I had it on a SIM card.

Yeah, I'm sending the best of Joe and them. That's on your reel? That's on your reel. Shit. I see what type of energy we on today. I'm letting this rock. Beautiful music. Black, what up, what up, what up, what up?

Ow. Ow. Ow. I'll tell y'all when more gets in. Tuck your titties away. I'm so excited. Mic check, mic check, mic check, mic check. Oh. Mic check, mic check, mic check, mic check Oh, I love when the beat gets weird Yes, please make the beat weird

Alright, we here now Hope everybody's feeling good, feeling great out there You know the vibes Shout out to A.P.I. COVID free Shout out to A-Pi, COVID free. Shout out to A-Pi on YouTube, even though y'all can't hear this music. Subscribe to my shit, we hit up. If you want some compromising, tell me what you're providing. If you want some compromising, yeah.

Got a real special guest for y'all today, real special guest. My brother Marl is here. On time by his dance early by his standards you gotta keep the ops guessing in case they waiting you know me how are we the ops more we are not the ops we are your friends and your co-workers you can have a routine with us it's okay they're not gonna find it out I'm also scared to be vulnerable with us. Yeah, that's not true. You try to keep us on our toes because we know where he's going to be twice a week.

Yeah. You're guessing. Hey, Samon sends the Uber. We can watch you the whole way. Shout out to the ladies out there. Ladies out there. Okay. Ladies out there

It might be over for you Why do you think ladies don't listen to our shit? No they do It's low hanging fruit on the shout out game Yeah You gonna go with birthdays next? I never shout them out Oh okay

I never shout them out That's why we got a bunch of dicks listening to us That's a good point And a few ladies sprinkled out there Ladies We've definitely shouted out the ladies What'd you Ladies! We've definitely shot another lady. What'd you say? We've definitely shot another lady.

Listen, would you two married niggas mind your business? Me and Mo is here talking to single ladies, single ladies, single ladies! Single ladies! Running out of shit that I can say. Yes, sir! Wishing you the best and so I pray. Justice, what up? Shout out to everybody in hip-hop, man Weird energy out there, weird energy out here

More's here to break it down for us today, we gotta talk about it But I'm freer than I ever been Something that you've never been No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no No Joe Biden No, Wally and Ma It's Parks What's up? It's Parks

What's up? It's Parks Microphone check, one, two, what is this is this is this park what's happening uh microphone check one two what is this the jbp boys bike to business 391 welcome to episode 391 of the joe button podcast i'm your humble gracious grateful highly favored and covid free host joe button here with a few of my nearest and dearest uh brother mall is here parks is here with us rory is here erab. Brother Mo is here. Parks is here with us. Rory is here. E-Rab Erickson is here. Savon Donchito is here.

Alex the Great is here. Bria and Sonye is over there somewhere, right? Hopefully well fed. I want to shout out to our YouTube viewership. Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. I want to shout out to anybody listening on any other DSP. And I want to shout out to all potential advertisers out there hey hey speaking of one we are powered by sponsored by empowered by tolerated by cash yeah you know we tell

me but if you really think about it is there a better app no I can't think of a better app I mean I certainly can't millions of apps out there there's none no yeah allowed us to say fuck Spotify and not miss a beat I'll never appreciate that more listen and and we'll get into that conversation in a little bit because we're gonna have to talk about companies and creators and just companies being on the right side and wrong side of the creators but let's get into that later how's everybody doing how y'all doing how y'all doing man good good good great doing pretty bad but i'm hanging okay finally some honesty man awesome no no this i've been screaming for what's wrong about a year and a half

i'm talking about physically now i think over over the weekend, I did have those moments. I didn't think I was going to survive. I keep testing negative for COVID. There's no way I don't have it. I'm dying. You think it's the flu? Yes. But I'm here.

Make sure you guys get it too. It's the best I've felt since Friday. Friday, I was dying on this podcast. I don't think anyone could see. Saturday, I did pass away. And Sunday, I kind of woke up Monday, died again, I really appreciate that. No, it's the best I've felt since Friday. Friday, I was dying on this podcast. I don't think anyone could see. Saturday, I did pass away. And Sunday, I kind of woke up Monday, died again, woke up this morning just so I could pod. Oh, there's one of my theories confirmed. What?

Rory has nine lives? I know. When I was imagining how Rory's death would go, I didn't want to talk to him right before it was over. No, that's fine. So the fact that he just did it on his own, didn't reach out to us, I respect that. Yeah, you got to dial on somebody. You got to do it on your own. Yeah, dial on.

Born alone, dial on. Yeah, that Sunday you were talking about, you had laryngitis. And I was like, that's white. It was. I didn't even know what the word was until Sunday. And then it transformed to strep throat. And then I tested negative again for COVID. So I don't know what I have.

All I know is, pause, my throat closes. I wake up choking on my own saliva every single night. So if I don't make it to the next podcast, I do love all of you. Why are you here? Word. You could have slept in, stayed at home, relaxed a little bit.

You got any plexiglass over there that we can just kind of box him in with? I mean, you know. Put a piece of cardboard. I got to do my last episode. You got to scootlexiglass over there that we can just kind of box him in with? I mean, you know. Put a piece of cardboard. I got to do my last episode. You got to scoot over a little bit. Do what you got to do. Oh, please.

You were spitting in all our faces with COVID. But I didn't know that I had COVID. You know. No, you came in here and said, yo, I feel like shit. And told us all the symptoms of COVID and then continued to spit in our faces. No, I didn't have that throat laryngitis thing at that time. Well, I have...

Are you taking anything? Yeah, I have antibiotics. Okay, cool. Yeah. Today's the best I felt. What's that? Oh, so you've seen some medical attention.

That told us nothing. Just taking antibiotics. That's antibiotics. What does that mean? Perk 30s? What is he taking? Perk 30s. That's not antibiotics.

That's not antibiotics. I asked for those from the doctor. They're like, this has nothing to do with what you have. Yo, I'm old enough to remember

when the people that really needed the Perk 30s didn't know how hot they were in the street. So like, when you asked them for it, they're like,

oh, here. Yeah. Same with cigarettes. I'm old enough to know when it was Oxycontin before Perk. Oxycontin was the original. Oxy's still hot in the streets.

That's true. Yeah, but a nigga ain't loaning you as Oxy today. No, no. They weren't back then either. That's true Yeah but a nigga Ain't loaning you As Oxy today No They weren't back then Or as Perk 30 They weren't back then either

Well if you had a prescription You might be here Now them niggas Can't get a little Darvison or something like that But they don't let you Hold the Oxy Well Rory found

A new Adderall Connect right Yeah That's exciting Allegedly The big boy Oh yeah 30s That's exciting

We have parks Look what parks get excited about. I don't. I don't like uppers. You know what's funny? I'm too bored today to do Adderall. Right. Really?

You got to pick and choose. There's nothing to do. My house is clean. Yeah. That's really the main purpose of Adderall. No, it's true. My house is clean. The pot is in a groove.

I'm not going to sacrifice that. I think my email inbox is only at like 10. When it's at like 115.. No, it's true. My house is clean. The pot is in a groove. I'm not going to sacrifice that. I think my email inbox is only at like 10. When it's at like 115. All right, let me pop a little 15. Yeah, go through this. Knock out everything. Way to go.

Real heavy, intense drug talk right after our advertiser shout out. Yeah, right on brand. Got a cash app to connect. If you do want to pay your connect and you don't want to see him in person, there's an app you can use. Today is National Unfriend Day. Huh? Word? That's why I came here with a sickness. That's fucked up, Roy.

Yes. You're going to unfriend us by killing us. Fallon or Kimmel or Kimmel Fallon, one of them made it up. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Kimmel. What's Fallon's name though? Jimmy Fallon or Kimmel or Kimmel Fallon. One of them made it up. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Kimmel. What's Fallon's name though? Jimmy Fallon.

They're both Jimmys. They're the Jims. Oh, they're battling. Who's winning? Fallon. Is that true? Yeah. I like Kimmel.

Check the ratings, Savon. I think Fallon's pretty high. Are we checking the Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel battle right now? It's between. Jimmy Kimmel did drop your name. It's between. That's true. Oh, then I'm riding with Kimmel. Yeah. I like Kimmel. Oh, Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel battle right now? It's between. Jimmy Kimmel did drop your name. It's between. That's true. Oh, then I'm riding with Kimmel.

Yeah. I like Kimmel. Oh, Fallon's the other guy. Fallon's the one that laughs when things aren't funny. Kimmel's just on ABC, which isn't really the late night destination. Fallon is the roots. Fallon is the hip hop hit. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, wait. The hip hop hit I thought shouted me out. No. The other one did? Yeah, Kimmel did Oh the other guy's winning I think

I mean they both In this house I like them both How about that? I'm a Colbert guy Well either way Today's National Unfriend Day I didn't know that was a thing

But I'm certainly gonna I'm rolling with it There's mad people I wish I could've Unfriended in a classy And cool way Like alerting people That you're unfriending them

Oh wait So does this mean like Unfriend on like social medias like unfollow type of thing or in real life i took it as a real life so you could just stop fucking with niggas today you just like send them the link like you know today's national unfriend day and hope they get the hint hey hit niggas like yo i deaded you i mean but if i don't really like you i don't know if i'm waiting for the 17th like what if i don't like you in April. No, you're not speaking to him in April. Well, I'm saying before. Like of this year. No, you're dead in a moment. Today is just the day you remind that nigga that you're dead in a moment.

Yo. You cut off still. How did you guys go about taking someone out your top eight on MySpace? I'm not doing this with you. It was a big thing. It was a big thing. I don't remember now. Were you guys one of those hoes that had the top 16 when they added that? Yeah, I had a big thing. It was a big thing. I don't remember now. Just take them off. Were you guys one of those hoes that had like the top 16 when they added that?

Yeah, I had like a top 25. Yeah. That was definitely a thing. Like a real thing. That caused real arguments. Yeah, it did. Yeah. I think my hand is broke.

I'm sorry? How? How did you break your hand? Well, that's the thing. At this age, I just don't even know what happened. Can you just make your hand get old?

Like it kind of hurts it's not right in here no it ain't broke a symptom it's probably just a sprain but it hurts it hurts oh no because it's raining today and you're old it's arthritis i don't like it i don't like that yeah we can't fight it though getting old man yeah yeah you guys are thanks for it you're not for real though But you notice it more Like When you start having sex With like women

That are like Significantly younger Like maybe Eight, nine years Younger than you Like the energy levels Eight, nine years Next year

Yeah like The energy levels Are just like It's a difference That's why You just gotta lock them In a missionary Fucking face to face

Yeah but it's only so long You gotta control You to control the court. Yeah. Even that starts to wear on you after a while. Once I attach that fucking hip to her, her leg to her hip with my arm, she ain't going to wear it. Pin your little hyper ass down. I saw a girl tweet, men in missionary is our version of twerking, and I got really upset. That's just nasty.

That's funny. That's nasty to think about. That's nasty to think about. But when you get older, you got to start doing shit. You can't fuck no more. We be twerking. I mean, you be gyrating your hips a little bit. I mean.

I just don't want to think about it. It's not a great mental image. It's like, don't say that, though it It's not a great mental image It's like It's like don't say that though Like don't put it like that But you definitely get to a point Where it's like Alright You got to start like

The fucking days Oh yeah Remember all the shit You used to think you could do Like pick her up And pin her against the wall And put Nah you got to make love now

Well you can still do that But you I wasn't good at that When it was in That was number your forte Nigga I almost had a hernia Trying to fuck around You gotta know

Who you can pick up You can't You can't just pick up The thicker ones Like if you ain't Been in the gym Don't play it Nah I've been locked

In the scenarios Where she was having A blast up there Like if she was at the rodeo And I was dying Trying to hold that bitch up With my thigh muscles You just keep getting

Lower and lower Legs start shaking You don't want her To think you soft Like nah I got you Then you can feel that moment up with my thigh muscles. You just keep getting lower and lower. Legs start shaking. You don't want her to think you soft. You're like, nah, I got you. Then you can feel that moment when she's fearful now. You can feel it in the fucking. She feel it slipping.

She feel it slipping. I'm trash. That's part of getting old, though. That's why they don't fuck me no more. You got to make love now. You got to massage and talk. That's the wisdom of being a wily old veteran in bed. Yeah. You got to know your strong points. Maybe you're more efficient. You're a little more efficient. Yeah. Know your strong points, man. you know that's you know the wisdom of being a wily old veteran in bed yeah you gotta know

maybe you're more efficient you're a little more efficient yeah know your strong points or just eat pussy for way longer that's part of the wily veteran

even that the wily but even that you're gonna bring it up here I'm gonna lay down come on that's the point you're gonna bring it up here

you squat not me hide under the fucking comforter how would your knees Come on That's the first You gonna bring it up here You squat Not me Hide under the fucking comforter How would your knees Help you balance Yeah yeah Come on Come on

Gobble gobble Gobble gobble Come on Lay right here Gobble gobble Don't ever turn And look at me And say gobble gobble

Don't do that You're not doing that Don't say gobble gobble I'm just saying You talking about sex And I just think about all the different things I would have to factor into a confrontation before it occurred. You eat pussy under the blankets? Yeah.

It's too hot. Joe is a sick nigga. Wait, that's bad. Can't breathe under that motherfucker. Get rid of the blanket, man. Why you in the blanket like you hot in? Turn the heat up. If this is a safe space, I'll share with y'all my move.

Okay. I start under the blanket so I get steamy. And you reveal yourself? Don't take none of these notes. Don't listen to none of this shit. That's like the opposite of a Wiley veteran. I don't know the opposite of Wiley. No, I'm telling you.

Say bye. Yes. Yes. That's exactly my move. What he just did That's a joke And it works It works

As long as it works You need a steamy under there Y'all don't like See now We're not supposed to We're supposed to be Saving the energy in hip hop It's okay

Because everybody's dying We're going to save the energy That's what we're supposed to be doing Yeah Yeah I like steam Okay I like sweaty sex I'm just not going under the covers.

Y'all niggas want to be dry during sex? No, no. Maybe not dry, but I don't want to be under the covers. And if I am dry, I'm pouring this whole gallon of lube over you to make it slippery. What's wrong with you? I need help twerking. And we all look better glistening. You got to get a little sweat on your lips.

You got to oil your car up. Yeah. For shit to work properly. I just can't put you under. Yeah. No, I see where you're going with it. For shit to work properly. I just can't put you under the blankets. That's just like, get this blanket out there. I want you to see this. No, that's a vibe.

Because that's another level. But like, are both of y'all under the blanket? Like, is she peeking at you? No, no, no. She up there. She's peeking at you. Oh, Joe gives surprise head. She up there.

You give a shot head. You don't want her looking at you? This is crazy shit. You don't want her looking at you? Oh, my God, Joe. Joe Budden. That's what she's saying? Oh, my God, it's Joe Budden, the podcaster.

Does she add the S? It's the podcaster. He's doing it right now. Oh, my God, the guy with the network. Yo, what you doing? He don't pot it down like you. What you do if you're eating out under the blanket? All right.

Yo, you're eating out under the blanket, and when you move the blanket, you see she recording. Like, what do you do? That's never happened to me, because I'm fucking with women that respect me and don't. Try to sneak record me. That's not true. They don't.

They don't respect me. They never try to sneak record y'all? Yeah, I've been snuck recorded before. Yeah. I don't think don't respect me they never try to sneak record y'all i've been yeah i've been snuck recorded before yeah i don't have that one before they sneak record what a nigga's taping rory for what what happened well it was women great that's great rory thank you thank you for that i'm just like what are you doing with your rory recording i mean i understand your way of lashing out at your friends is by trying to hurt them with your words, but I'm just going to sidestep it and say that women have liked me in the past.

That's always a safe answer. Women have always liked you, man. I'm saying, are they showing it to their friends? Of course they are. Are they sending it somewhere? Yeah, it's Rory. At one point, Joe, I was in these New York City streets and was making a name for myself. No. No.

Yes. She was a hoe. I went through my hoe phase. Men can go through their hoe phase. That's a fact. Okay. Are you done? Oh, for sure.

Okay. I was a really lost time. I didn't know myself. Searching for answers that I could not find. I'm happy you found yourself. I'm happy you found yourself. You got to be done once you get caught in all the ways you didn't expect. You got to be like.

You forced to retire? All right. I know I threw that away. She had an eyelash just right by the end table. You know what? I'm done. That's your eyelash. I'm finished cheating.

I'm done. Yeah, it's too much. That was not the whole phase I was talking about, Joe. I'm going to add that to my chat. I am the worst cheater. Panties in the shower. There's all types of clues around the house. It's like escape the cheat room.

And the prize is she's in the room. Movie tickets on the dresser. Buy the line text I sent you at the same time. It's crazy. It's crazy shit going on. Old days. Old toxic days. Yeah.

When we're done with old nigga shit, my hand is really fucked up. And I hope that I don't Have to fight like tomorrow But you don't know What you did Like to Niggas gotta start Checking the mental health

Of the people that they fight Like you catch a nigga When he's in the middle Of a really bad day Oh yeah He's gonna take All his anger out on you Yeah

That's a bad time to fight And sometimes I'm way too happy To think about a fight Like now you got it I don't feel like it I'll just lay down I don't feel like fighting Right now

Yeah I feel like all the Like real improv To like the fights That happened Without any real Beef prior to Knowing each other

Had nothing to do with them Right He was angry that day And now I'm gonna Take it out on this person That's really what it was Yeah That's why I don't get a house

Smart I stay home I'm always in the house Yeah but then I'm home Thinking about What if the fight breaks in here? What if somebody breaks in and wants to fight?

Wait. Somebody break in, I'll just put them up. No, but my hand. I'm serious. Y'all niggas keep thinking y'all safe at home, man.

Anyway, come on. Where do we start? Where do we start 20 minutes in? Let's start with something hip-hop. Let's start with something hip-hop.

Well, we had a little change to the verses. We had a little last-minute audible. Joe called it last week. Yeah, last-minute audible. They brung in Gucci for Jeezy. No, Gucci for T.I. Yeah. I think Joe meant they brought in Gucci to battle Jeezy in place of T.I.,

who was originally slated for this battle. Of course, when this news was announced, everybody posted it. It was a really big deal. I thought it was fake at first. Even when I said it to y'all last week off mic, your reaction was, that's not going to happen. That can't happen. How could it happen? And if it did, are they doing it in the same room like the rest of them?

That's a good question. So they are doing it in the same room like the rest of them? That's a good question. So they are doing it in the same room. They are? They are. They will be in the same room. Oh, that's a big deal. This is important. It is.

Go ahead. Go further. But this is important. It's important that we have this versus right now. I would imagine they had a conversation before this was ever even posted. Absolutely. And then I thought that. And then Gucci's caption was,

yo, tell buddy. And after I saw tell buddy, I said, maybe they didn't have a conversation. No, they definitely had a conversation because this is a real life. When was the last time you said tell buddy and they was your buddy? No, but I think that's part of it.

Only keep it in. I think that's part of it. That's part of the theatrics. That's part of selling the verses. To make it seem like there's still a lot of tension between them. To still throw little subliminals like tell little buddy. You know, calling him snow cone.

I'm positive there's tension between them still. Now, how they go about that tension. I'm sure it's a lot less. Tension maybe. Yeah, but I'm sure they had a conversation with each other before. They're not going to have their first conversation when we see them on camera. And what are they called? They call them Snow Cone.

Yeah. Buddy and Snow Cone. Yeah. Okay. And then Jeezy fired back, make sure it's the real you and not the clone. I didn't see that. That's pretty funny. So they're both firing shots and somehow i'm home and still afraid yeah

a little bit yeah it's gonna be interesting i didn't think this would happen i didn't think they would be in the same room but it's important and i'm glad that ti that ti uh bowed out gracefully and gave the culture you know help give a reasoning yeah the reason was this is the one that it's supposed to be. Oh, okay. Gucci and Jeezy. They felt like the culture needed everything. Ron Moore just said.

Yeah, this is just important for, you know, if you know the history between these two. Wait, before we dig back into this, Rory brought up a hypothetical scenario that he saw. I was going to wait until we were done with Gucci and Jeezy. No, no, let's get in and get out of this one really quick. I saw a flyer that said T.I. versus Lil Wayne that when I asked had some legitimacy to it. And then they pulled it offline because it wasn't officially confirmed. But that's what they were trying to do.

Huh? Say that again. They were trying to do what? T.I. versus Lil Wayne. Okay. That was posted from someone like official? Someone? Oh.

Yeah, but they be doing a little teasers about shit that's not confirmed, just throwing shit out there. Not usually like a flyer, though. It's usually like a conversation on- It was a flyer with a date in December. That's Joe Bag, though. My bag? What you mean?

The leak? No, because that's how your battle came about. That's how your versus came about. What's the gentleman's name? rapper uh hollow hollow it was just a picture of y'all standing face to face and you posted it and then a real battle came of that but that before you posted that picture it wasn't you know i mean it wasn't like a thing that y'all had talked about is ti taking wayne in a 20 verse? There's no need for us to spend time on this.

I just want a quick score from each of you so I know where the headspace is. T.I. versus Wayne? Yes. Give me your PC score. PC score? PC score, 18-2.

Here's my PC score. That can't be your PC score. I can hear Ben or Tex and Rory now. I can just hear it. No, That can't be your PC score I can hear Ben Or texting Rory now I can just hear it No that can't be your PC score Your PC score is 18-2 Rory's trying to get us

A deal somewhere I'm fucking with you I'll say 5-14-6 We won't be allowed At the trap museum but No And T.I. Shout out to T.I.

I'll say 14-6 Shout me out After you say 18-2 I didn't say which side You say 14-6 14 Shout me out after you say 18-2. I didn't say which side. You say 14-6. 14-6. Parks. 15-5.

I'm somewhere in between. 14 and a half. So 18-2? 13-7? 15-5, 16-4, somewhere around there. Okay. All right. Respectfully.

Yeah, of course. Tell me it's four. Tell you TI's four. Tell you T.I.'s four? Mm-hmm. Is he going first or second? Y'all. I'm talking to y'all. When he goes second, he'll catch a couple.

It depends, man. Because live your life. That live your life record is going to be a strong one. Yeah. Fancy. His Drake record is going to be a strong one. Fancy, his Drake record is going to be a strong one. Against all the options Wayne has with Drake. Bring him out.

Hey, look, man. You had the nerve to say Fancy. That's a record. I love Fancy. Me too. Fancy's a charm. That's an auto point versus love Fancy. Me too. Fancy's a joint. So then why is the whole room laughing at- That's an auto point versus the guy who has the most roster.

At no point did I say any of these are auto points. I don't think there's an auto point for T.I. versus Wayne. No, Fancy is a joint. I love Fancy. I'm saying if Wayne gets out all 18 of his fucking haymakers, and then Live Your Life comes on. He might have more than 18 haymakers. And then Live Your Life comes on.

Live Your Life is beating some of Wayne's records. If he's going second. Depending on where it's played. If he's going second. If a Millie comes on, then what the fuck? My head's going to explode. I'm going to run around the house like, holy shit. I don't want no rapper to have to stand on the other side of Millie.

I don't. I think Wayne can only see. A Millie, you lose, nigga. Bye. Wayne can only see. He's in the, nigga. Bye. Wayne can only see. He's in the Drake and Hov category for me with verses. Yeah. Those are the only people I think you should fuck with.

Outside of the producers like Dre and that shit. I'm just saying rappers. Obviously. All right. Well, off of that one, back to Gucci and Jeezy. What do y'all have going on there? And then tell me why the culture needs this right now and how this couldn't be a better time. I'm sorry. That's just fine go ahead and you never scooted over i'm immature tell me why this is what the culture needed right at this time

that was the most formal bullshit I ever heard in my life. Take it away, Jinx. I was so serious, though. I know. Take it away, Jinx. Because we all started with, this is good. We need this right. No, you were right. It was just the way you said it. Never mind.

Never mind. I think that Jeezy is probably the favorite in this. I think he is. I think he has the more. We are such a New York podcast. No, that's why I'm scared to answer this one. Can we call someone from Atlanta? Now you want to have an Atlanta leg.

No, I mean, people from Atlanta have been saying the same thing. Hey, Brandon just left Atlanta, but they're not in Atlanta. They've been saying the same thing. He has more popular records. Gucci, obviously, is a street legend. He has records as well.

But I think Jeezy is obviously just the bigger selling act. He has the more popular records. So, you know, I think it'll be more importantly the fact that they're

just in the same room doing this is the win. That's the story. I'll put it this way. I think Jeezy will win the popular vote. Gucci may win the electoral college.

Nah. Okay. I like how you put that. I think we did not live in Atlanta when Gucci's mixtape shit was completely running Atlanta. So we don't have the same view of this. We were up here where Jeezy Records probably were playing a lot more because he was just bigger on a pop type rap space but I think GZ just has he has a lot of like cult classic records as well like street records they both do you know I mean like and GZ's got some hits but the

same the same thing I said about TI and GZ where I was like alright you could play your blurred line shit but how's that gonna go against a TM 101 record you can now say that With Jeezy playing a hit record Versus Gucci playing some shit That is Yeah That's more loved in the streets

Yeah I don't know Sounds like a tough matchup To me for Gucci I love Gucci but Jeezy just has Big hit records That are not poppy either

Like Either way you shouldn't Come to us for this That's true Yeah but I don't even care About like The score Well we're giving our New York opinion well yeah that's what we're from we can't help it but I don't it to me it's not even about the score the record just the fact that they're doing

this in the same room I would love to just see the dialogue between them yeah because a lot of these records have a lot of history in the streets in Atlanta it's a lot of like lines and bars and a lot of their records. So it's just going to be interesting to see them sit there and dissect that. And I'm hoping that we get a real lengthy conversation between them two. Yeah, I mean, it goes back to

what we were talking about last week with OGs talking about the violence that's happening with young artists. Who better to do it than these two? Absolutely. Absolutely. So that's why to me this is this is perfect yeah you know this is today's version of we're all in the same gang yeah

yeah like in what it symbolizes as far as this battle goes musically I have I have Jeezy winning. Like Maul, I didn't really get into a score count in my head. I just have Jeezy winning if it's only about music. Now, all those intangible things that I think lead to a W, I kind of favor Gucci with. Gucci, I think, is probably a better A&R better anr today than jesus so when you get into the placement they're both pretty good anrs actually for sure but gucci has fathered absolutely all of my atlanta i don't yeah i don't want to step on what you're saying because yes jesus is gucci's has manifested in ways that his placement of records,

I think will be kind of crazy. One, two, like I say before every one of these battles that the big bro effect, who big bros, who little bros, who are big bros, who Jeezy is a man.

So I don't, I don't picture him that way, but anybody that has been little bro on the verses has been a man. I don't picture him that way but anybody that has been Lil Bro on the verses has been a man I didn't picture them that way um I think with with their history though I don't know if there'll be any Big Bro Lil Bro energy every time it's always there yeah but they're in the subtlest of ways in the subtlest of ways it's always there yeah you got to kind of be able to see it and dissect it yourself yeah they're they're they're men so i don't think there's gonna be anything overtly obvious or disrespectful or i think they'll be very polite like you said i think they spoke spoke before been in the same place before

i think all that i don't know if they've i'm not i don't think they've been in the same room yet but i think i'm almost positive they've had a conversation. I'm willing to say that. When T.I. had Jeezy on his podcast and they were discussing it, I don't think Jeezy had mentioned, and please correct me

if I'm wrong, that they had had a conversation or pieced anything up at that time. That was a while ago, though. A couple months? Yeah, it wasn't that long.

Yeah, it wasn't that long. In order for them to both agree to this, I'm pretty sure that they both had a conversation. They talked. I don't think they've been in the same room yet um if they have great but either way I'm I'm really looking forward

to this um because again it's just the timing of it all yeah is uh is is perfect you know just two men with a history uh of of being in the streets in Atlanta and it being a beef between them and beef amongst crews and then the look is going to be important. See, like you said, I don't know. The last few times I've seen Jeezy, he's kept it low, him and just a few other people. Well, that's part of growing as a man. You start to value what's important and what it means.

You know what I mean? Like we've watched the transformation of Gucci. No, 1,000%. But if I needed to call fucking Dill to pop up tomorrow, he could. Oh, absolutely. That's still, yeah. I mean, that's just man shit. And that's shit that I don't know about, so I won't speak on it.

But to me, that's important. Who shows up with Jeezy? Who shows up with Gucci? What is Gucci wearing? What is his wife wearing? Who shows up with Gucci? What is Gucci wearing? What is his wife wearing? Who has tricks like that? Look, the optic of it. All of that stuff plays a part in this.

We saw the chains and Rick Ross. Yeah. Definitely played a factor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. So this is Thursday. I'm really excited about it. Me too. Does this have Atlanta divided?

Like, we talking just as dudes. I'm hoping it's bringing Atlanta together. Not divided seriously. Like, beef talking just as dudes. I'm hoping it's bringing Atlanta together. Dudes, not divided seriously. Like, beef divided. Atlanta seems pretty tough to divide. I'm talking about the fanfare, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's definitely. Because Atlanta rides for Atlanta, and now it's Atlanta on Atlanta.

But that's what it's for, though. You have, you know, just like Nas and Jay. It's New York, you know what I mean? Like, it was a divide between Nas fans and Jay fans during that time. So it's the same thing here. I think it's just a divide amongst the fans, but all in fun. Yeah. All in just, you know, reminiscing and listening to records that were out at a time where you

may have been in a different place in your life. Right. You know, reminiscing on some things. It's a celebration of how far both of these men have come, the transformations that both of them have made. I'll cry if they get up there looking like, who was that? Beanie Man and Elephant Man? Oh, yeah.

No, if it's like that, then that's like Beanie Man and Bounty Killer. I always do that. I'm so sorry. But yeah, if that type of camaraderie is on display. Yeah, that's huge. That's amazing. I'll catch allergies. That would be amazing.

Yeah, that's amazing. Because if you know the history of them two as well that was amazing to see but it just sends the right message at this time i think you know i mean yeah it's cool as i laughed at you joe you you were correct this is what is needed right now yeah it's cool to grow old and be engaged and be married and have kids and have a family and you know pass the baton and put the younger generation on create opportunities for the next up like that's the real cool shit and squash some old shit yeah and i think that's what both of these men represent in their in their city is like yo you know we y'all know what we've been through but this is what this is what you should look forward to you know i mean being a family man and representing your family and just if it's old beef

it's old bullshit bury that shit put it to the side and everybody move on and be happy I really like where Jeezy sits today in terms of his new album coming cool he got his talk show he has a podcast surrounded around some surrounding the album I like what what's going on with him Yeah for sure And Gucci too We've seen the I don't even call it a rebrand It was like a re-life

When he got out of jail Of just how positive he's been Healthy Mindless business Chilling Like I've loved Both of them getting older The evolution of them both

They've been great examples Of hip hop getting older Yeah it looks good So them doing this together I think is amazing And shout out to Swizz getting older. The evolution of them both. They've been great examples of hip hop getting older. Yeah, it looks good. So them doing this together I think is amazing and shout out to Swizz and Tim for putting this together

because this one is much more important than I think a lot of people realize. Agreed. It's cool to grow old and classy. Yeah.

I was watching I was watching 50 on The Breakfast Club this morning and they asked alright you see the Jeezy and And Gucci getting together to do the verses So does this mean like maybe you and Ja

Could squash it And maybe Y'all could do verses No 50's gonna 50 No That no is gonna be Long

Long term Nah That's a long That's a long standing no. That's a definitely part. We probably said the same thing about this one. We did. Yeah, you can't predict the future.

Yeah. Exactly. I hear, I understand 50 saying that now. Yeah. But time. Over time, anything is possible. Come on, let's get into some of why this is important right now anyway with the current state of everything that is happening in hip-hop

and that has happened in hip-hop this year in terms of the violence and the murders. It's just a lot. It's a lot. Yeah. I mean, at some point we just got to address it for what it is. It's just the energy that's surrounding the culture right now. You know what I mean?

With the content, the type of music, the type of lyrics that, you know, we champion. Hasn't that always been here, though? It hasn't been this, because again, like how we talked about a while ago, I said, it's easier for artists now to get on. It's easier for artists to be heard. And with that comes, I don't care about that part. I care about like, whatever is,

whatever's the scariest. And I ain't going to hold you. It's scary right now. What? Well, again, because we don't let them digitalizing things, uh,

understate that it's scary. Don't let the pandemic and the fact that you stuck in the house understate it's spooky out there. It's feeling like 90s to me. Feeling. I ain't outside. I think it's worse because I don't. Well, that's what I'm saying to you. We got to be honest.

It's the music. You know what I mean? Because now the gang culture. I just can't roll with that. It is the music? Or do you think the music is just reflecting what have what's no let me explain let me explain why because you have it's a lot of banging on wax now right and when I say that meaning like we've always had rappers and artists that were from cities and were gang affiliate affiliated and were gangs they were gang members. But they weren't on wax

saying, fuck that side, fuck them. When we see them, we killing them. That wasn't part of it. I knew Snoop was a crip growing up.

I don't remember hearing him banging on bloods and saying, it's on when we see them. I don't remember that. Maybe not to the degree. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah.

So it's like somehow the gang culture is magnified in hip hop now where it's like you're almost not cool if you're not from a gang. Well, I think that you actually made a good point about the ease of creating and releasing music now. Probably lends it more to where guys that were heavy in the streets maybe didn't want to take the time out to go to a studio and all that kind of thing back then as much as now it's easy you can just do it on your laptop at home and see if that's what i'm saying it's easier for these artists now because you know when we were in the streets younger it had to be a dish it had to be an event of things that happened for us to get a record where a rapper was saying yo fuck him it was like a diss record that was a moment yeah now with these younger dudes every record is one of

those records it's like a every record is a single is a diss record now you know i'm saying what they're talking about somebody that killed or somebody got beefed with or when they see them it's like almost every record people are partying to it so now you're taking that energy in it's a real thing it's the energy is real let me ask because i think the spike in violence isn't just just rapper specific i wouldn't say it's just that. No, it's not just that. I think not only the music, because I do understand your point, the ability to go on the internet when you have a beef with somebody where everyone can see it and an ego is bruised much easier may play, if not more than a song. Because not every single person that is being killed

is a rapper or anyone in these gangs. Of course not. I think it's the ability for everyone to see a disagreement in plain view where an ego can be bruised would probably add more to it rather than just music. I think that just reflects what's happening as is.

Well, again, like I said, they're banging on each other through music. They're using music and on Instagram. But it all comes into the music. I don't even want to... Yes, what y'all are saying is true.

But my focus is not just on... Benny's not in the gang, right? Well, we weren't talking about the gang. I can name quite a few other people that have been shot this year that weren't in the gang at all. So when you were speaking about the energy,

yes, that gang culture and what they're doing on the songs plays a part. But I would like us to address the weird energy, not that 2020 has had because we're kind of all aware of that, but that is surrounding hip-hop and entertainment as a whole. And we've always kind of, we've always kind of mirrored, or the streets has always been, has been government, like the government is government. Hip-hop is a street culture.

Yeah, it's like the streets will tell you what's going on so i'm just saying like with mental health plummeting or sky skyrocketing however you want to look at it yeah the way it is with unemployment skyrocketing the way it is with drugs being either expensive or harder to come by than we're used to there's just a lot going on in the scope of the country that says to me or anybody that comes from an impoverished place, oh, the streets is hungry now. The streets are streeting. But I look at it differently, Joe.

And the streets are always going to street. Yeah, but see, I look at it differently because, you know, we had this talk a while ago. And I don't really look at it from a poverty standpoint as much as I used to. Because these dudes now are killing each other with $1,000 designer sneakers on. With $1,000 phones in their hands. With fucking, they're jumping out of foreign cars. They got Rolexes on.

They got like $80,000 watches on and they shooting at each other. So it's not a poverty thing. It's not poverty. Like people are they shooting at each other So it's not a poverty thing It's not poverty Like people are not Robbing each other Because it's poverty They're not It's just like

To them they feel like That's just the cool shit That's the fly shit Like I got the grip on me I'll back this shit out And I'll air this shit That's cool It's looked at like

That's cool now And like I said It's the energy You in the club all night You hear the music You know when I pop this I turn into a demon I'm on this time and it's like you keep hearing this shit after a while it's like it starts to consume you and you start to feel like yo i don't have a good night unless we go outside and jump a nigga right now oh it's not a lit night unless we go

outside and we let the grip off right now like that's what the cool shit is with this generation and it's all through the music to me that's what it looks generation. And it's all through the music to me. That's what it looks like to me. It's all through the music. There is something about putting that energy in lyrics. It's a real thing. I don't blame it on poverty because niggas got on $2,000 outfits shooting at each other. That don't mean nothing because you're still conditioned from your impoverished neighbors. My thing is if you get into the bag, if you touching paper, like you supposed to start

moving away from that type of shit because now you don't want to fuck this bag up. Like that's, at least that's how I was raised. Like, yeah, you come, we all come from the streets,

we grind, but when you get in a position now where companies are investing money in you and you don't live in the hood no more, you got a nice condo somewhere on the outskirts

of the city, like you have to start moving yourself away, detaching yourself like, yo, I can't be running around with 20 dudes and everybody got a gun on them. I totally disagree. I don't think you have to look at it that way at all.

Higher security. That's one of the reasons I've always had a different type of respect for niggas that live by a certain code. Because at the end of the day, what my logic says is, you value life different than me. You willing to do a few things.

You willing to go sit down for 20 you willing to go let it fly you willing to get shot you willing to just die but why if we're getting money and life is a little easier now why would you risk that because that may not be where some people place their values and life being easy if i've been doing something for 17 years and then i've been doing Something for two years Like Not even in some cases Yeah Like

That's who these people are No I I know these people But I'm saying that It's The way it's supposed to go Is if we're grinding And we're in the streets

We gotta do certain things For survival mode Right But now when we're away from that Well more we know How it's supposed to go We know that You're supposed to do this shit

Make a way out And get out And stay out And go list to age And take care of your family And put people away from that. Well, more, we know how it's supposed to go. We know that you're supposed to do this shit, make a way out, and get out and stay out, and go list to age, and take care of your family, and put people. We know how it's supposed to go. I want us to address what we're seeing before our very eyes. Because I ain't never seen nothing like it. No, me neither.

Me neither. And I ain't never felt nothing like it. This is a totally different- We have different rappers getting popped every other week. But again, my belief is that it comes from guys being able to go and record music and say things disrespectfully towards other people whenever they want. Put it out to the world whenever they want. Like, it's just the way we're able to consume music, hear music, find who these guys are.

Social media, everybody is like in one circle now. This Benny story scared the shit out of me when it got sent to my phone yeah yeah prayers up for benny by the way yeah prayers up to benny for anybody unaware uh he was in houston he went to walmart with his dude streets had to drop on him uh the story i read said that uh streets said he might have been taken too long fire too scattered off everybody boogied. Benny tried to drive himself to the hospital, couldn't. Called EMT, they came, went to the hospital.

That is the story, and thank God that Benny is okay. But my brain don't go to thank God he's okay first. My brain instantly goes to all the million ways that could have ended differently. Yeah. Yeah yeah it was um Wes had texted me that night and uh that that fucked me up because he he was just he just texted me like he had just landed back in Atlanta and they had told him that Benny had got shot and when I read that I was just like man I don't I don't even want to hear I don't even want to look at my phone. He was like, yo, you know, he's going to be good.

Just pray. And even Nat was like, that's not enough. Don't tell me he's going to be good. Just pray. Because now I'm sitting at home like, what does that even mean? Yeah. You know what I mean? But thankfully, he's fine.

He's back home, resting, recovering. I haven't spoken to him yet, but I was touch with West and he said you know he's good and he's recovering and then it bothers me when I have to listen to casual fans and just people talk about shit

after the fact like Benny went through what he went through and then oh my god all of these fucking casual fans well why was he

at a Walmart oh yeah come on man like excuse me Oh my God, all of these fucking casual fans. Why was he at a Walmart? Oh yeah, a little bit. Like, excuse me? Like I had to stomp on him. Like a fam, fam, fam, fam, fam. It's okay to just not know what you're talking about. Let me tell you what every rapper has done when they hit a city

and realized they needed tank tops or something. Or some drawers. They gathered up their troops and they went to Walmart or the nearest place that you could get some of this stuff yeah everybody's done it but that's kind of walmart in the south is like the corner store yeah but that's kind of my thing about like i'm not gonna be the guy to say that benny should have been moving differently because when i read it he moved away niggas will be moving yeah but when the streets get the drop they just have the

drop like there's nothing else and that's that's my point more about just what's going on in the country and how it relates to what's going on in the streets which should relate to our industry and how niggas is getting around out here because we all some of us kind of know this language when you see it it's instinctual this shit is nuts mo three boozy i've been reading mo three shit all weekend yeah like i can't imagine being in that predicament of and rest in peace to my man he got he got murdered this way too like when you add a woman's house and then you leave and they get the drop on you so now people that love you are forced to sit here and figure out if you were set up like that's it's just a nuts situation oh here it is right I'm really desperate to get away from the killer yeah this story was nuts yeah in the daytime

see that's my thing you go you go you go somewhere you do something you've done a million times you you sleep with you sleep with your chick you are you intimate with you leave in the morning you know how it is when you leave in the morning it's empty niggas gone and neighbors went to work you get in your car you go about your business if the streets is laying up on you it means they were gonna lay up on you we were waiting i waited for two weeks yeah i waited for a month till you come out broad daylight on the highway. What does it tell you about where the streets are? Right. Yeah, it's definitely...

Boosie go out there to pay respects and they think he coming for vengeance and pop him. Like, what is this telling you about the energy and where the streets are?

Dallas is a mess right now. They burning down stores affiliated for anybody they think got. It's happening out there. Yeah, it's unfortunate. Houston, I don't have to be there. Every time I see an Insta snap of any party, I see the street niggas I know. I don't have to be there to understand the energy when some of those guys I'm looking at are outside. In Atlanta, I don't have to be there To understand the energy When some of those guys I'm looking at are outside In Atlanta I don't have to be there

Because the same thing exists I know what's going on I can't find another way To tell people to Move cautiously And to be aware When I already assume Some of the people in our field

Are moving that way But if y'all not and you're stuck in your own arrogance And I'm not talking to anybody in particular when I already assume some of the people in our field are moving that way. But if y'all not and you stuck in your own arrogance, and I'm not talking anybody in particular, please, because y'all know. But if we stuck in our own arrogance, if we stuck trying to figure out how to get a quick bag because all the shows have stopped and touring might not come back to 2023, so now we targeting the places that's open. Guess what, nigga? nigga hey they are too again i'm not talking to anybody specifically this is more

of a psa because i'm home scared to death for y'all my heart stops when these headlines come up i'm now damn near conditioned to the point, the beginning of every headline, I put it to death. They said Sinbad had a stroke. I put it to death before the word stroke came up. That's what this year has been. And if you think that the universe is just slipping and this is just about to come to a stop sometime soon,

you're not projecting and we ain't even getting to trump's two months left all of this is fucked up man i pray for y'all and i want people to be safe please i can't come in here and give a logical politically correct take on wayne fighting a Fed case for a firearm and ammunition. Because, nigga, why not? Right. What I'm going to say? Yeah.

They tried it. Niggas tried it. Yo, come on. That's Wayne. Man, he should have security. He should have somebody put him to have it on him. Guess what? I want security with Qu Do and Vaughn.

There. It still happened. I don't know if now is the time to have the conversation of security is a myth. Secure your fucking self. secure your fucking self, niggas with families, are not jumping in front of the bullet for you, 99% of the time,

I hire security for help, because I can fight, my hands work, so as long as I got a couple big niggas that's helping, cool, but I still, they're there to defuse things, you rappers almost got to run around with the hired guns,

which puts me in my fucking, in my state of confliction because I understand all of y'all running around the way y'all running around. Get it. I did it. I did that.

So I'm going to come and sit here and say, everybody stop. Everybody stop. What's going on? No. The streets will be the streets before you, during you, and after you. That is the constant here. I got into rant mode, so I'm not even clear on what I'm ranting about.

I'm just home frightened for my peers. No, you was cooking. Yeah. No, you were saying some important shit. I can't tell anybody about energy. Like, it's not something you could tell somebody about. It's a feeling.

Like, hopefully. Yeah, right. Hopefully it is. Because you got to catch it before it gets to your door. Yeah. And there's nothing I can say.

I've been young and stupid. Everything they're doing i did it like i put on i put on my jewelry to go play cards in a park by the projects it's not smart right but when you're 24 25 you're getting the bag you feel good you put your chain on you feel good hey even that is uh even that is uh handed down to us generationally from the streets like when when the streets first started it was the furs and the chains and the crews and the car and the boom box and the girls right and that was the status not for how you're doing in life right but for how you're doing in the streets right right every pull-up every do ever

do or any rapper i sit in front of that's the first thing I go to the chains it's the chains cause it speaks to niggas that know what you need if you wanna move that way right that's what I'm saying niggas came right up to me

in the park yo do me a favor gently lift that off of you kindly now don't don't move fast slow I'm in my head it's three o'clock yeah i'm gonna do this as slow as possible

yeah man three o'clock you need it more than i do here you got it i'm just saying that this happened with the police down the street man when they almost blew my brains out in jersey city joe didn't have beef with a soul is what i'm saying i didn't have beef with a soul, is what I'm saying. I didn't have beef with anybody. It just so happened the people that I was around maybe did. And I had no way of knowing. So the energy made it right to your fucking car door. If you don't see that, if you don't feel that,

if you're not vetting, if you don't know the people you with, you don't know what they got going on. I'm just saying. And the car you were in, I'm sure, said, hey, that's Joe Budden on Bergen. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was nine cars. It was mad cars.

I mean, it didn't matter. I felt as safe as I could possibly be. I was with niggas that you should feel safe with. The streets are the streets. A nigga can just get the drop. It's not going to change, man. And that's why with this Meek shit, like, I understand. Meek put out a tweet.

Well, actually, I don't know where I stood on this. Meek put out a tweet and said, yo, niggas in Philly is really talented. I'm paraphrasing here. I'm not reading. Niggas in Philly is really talented. I would come give all the young boys an opportunity and a deal, but y'all got to stop killing each other. Well, read the tweet.

It's for you. Let's give him the courtesy of reading his exact words rather than paraphrasing. I'll get all the main big artists in Philly a deal if they put them bodies behind them and squash them beefs that I hear about.

Got some hot young boys from the city, but they're all beefing. I read that and thought it was commendable. Yeah, I don't know how he got backlash from that i still don't understand it's unfortunate that that was taken that way he got backlash because the streets are the streets he got backlash because and i had to shift through the core to get to the core of this because i'm what you like how do you get backlash from this if you come from the streets you've created jobs and employment for people.

And trying to help others. You're trying to help others. And now you want to reach back and give opportunity to some other people if they just chill out. Sounds good. Until you put street logic into it. Then I totally get white or mad. See it? And that's my thing.

I don't know anymore because i'm old and disconnected and out of touch but it seems like the philly streets and again i'm not a philly dude or street dude but it seems like the philly streets are saying hey buddy you come from here you come from poverty you rep this shit you've repped it your music speaks for us and to us so how do you not understand if our homies get killed and we ride of course they didn't say that no one said that this is on the internet niggas just talking and y'all don't even like to come here and talk about street shit but unfortunately you can't escape it anymore hip hip hop is here we're at that crossroads yeah but but joe here's my thing what okay so yeah we understand it's a cycle

you know they killed my homie we got to go back we got to kill one of them but at what point because that's just a cycle of who's next you know i'm saying and a guy like meek who is from these same streets who was from these same situations and been in some serious situations himself, who has now worked himself into a position where he's living a better life. He's providing a better life for his family, is providing a better life for his friends. And here he is using his platform to say, you know, I hear the hot talent that's in my city and I I want to reach out to y'all, and I want to work with y'all, but the beefing is a problem. We can't do that if we're trying to create business and create opportunities. We have to stop that.

And then now he gets backlash for that. It's not like this is coming from somebody who has no idea what's going on in these cities and the streets. He's from there. So to me, it's like, yeah, we know the streets will be the streets, cities and in the streets he's from there right so to me it's like yeah we know the streets will be the streets but but we are the streets we're from the streets we're the people that live in these neighborhoods so at some point it's like what what we have to make the change and I just don't understand how a guy like me who's reaching back and who's telling everyone on his platform like yo I'm I want to work with the talent in my city.

I want to create these opportunities. But we know there are real life things that are going on. There are real situations that we have to stop and we have to put to the side if we're trying to get to a better place. I just don't understand how people were mad at him saying that. This isn't somebody that never been in the streets and never been in the hood that grew up in the suburbs his whole life and went to you know the best schools and the best university this is a dude that's from these same blocks well documented like that's what my mom and when she said you take you with you everywhere you go back to your when the surroundings change and uh the situations change for some people their attitude should change listen if you can't stop shooting niggas

where you at then what makes me think you about to stop shooting niggas where you go? Well, I think that's what he's saying. Well, it is what he's saying. So but what is the why are people mad at him saying that? Well, it's the Philly. It's Philly that's mad. And I'm going to assume that it's because there are more personal details involved that have not been released, like your actual ties to certain blocks or situations or just your knowledge of what's happening so i'm assuming they're saying meek you have knowledge of what's going on over here so

stop that for the peace shit and again i'm assuming i don't know i don't know shit I don't know a thing I'm just here to tell y'all that the energy is it should be blaringly obvious now now if if if you know we talk about our head being on a swivel but swivel it faster uh just be careful where you where you go where you move just be careful man we got one month and a half left of this year and i'm hopeful that 2021 will bring about some change i'm hopeful of that i am uh or at least or at least it'll be a better picture of us getting used to whatever this new normal is but if we just running around like chickens with our head cut off uh because our way of living has been impacted that way or or our our means of living has been impacted that way and if you've been blessed enough for your means and way of living to not have been

affected just know that there are a bunch of other people that have just be mindful man yeah but i also i think that um we just got to stop being so divisive divisive and uh confrontational like i think we got to like move that like shake that that's just something that i think is handed down generational uh we're just very divisive and very confrontational and a lot of that is just ego yeah a lot of that is uh trauma but um at some point we got to put it into it you know i'm saying it's not going to just go away one day we're gonna wake up and everything's gonna be gone i know that's not how it works but it just starts with you like if you want better do better if you want you know to be able to walk outside the community and you know things are cool and calm it's the people we have to do it like nobody's coming to save us and i think

that's a myth that we're waiting on this one day we're going to wake up and everything's going to be a fine and you know local government is going to fix things and that's not how it happens we have to make the change in our communities we have to make the change in ourselves we have to make the change in how we just We have to make the change in ourselves. We have to make the change in how we just deal with each other day to day in the communities. And I think if we do that, everything else falls in line. But we just got to stop being so divisive and so confrontational with each other.

It's like, I get it. I understand it. It's a lot of trauma with us. I understand it. But we have to do the work. We are the ones that have to do it. There's nobody coming to help us. I mean, people can try

you know like Meek is trying to let people know listen I'm willing to do work with young kids and dudes in my city and give them a shot

but I can't be affiliated with drama you know what I'm saying and I just don't understand how people turned on him and was mad at him for saying that but you can't please everybody

so I mean it is what it is. Before we get to Gabban, and while we're in this area, prayers to Jeremiah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And everything that he's going through. I saw Berg, I saw 50 and a few others announced Chance the Rapper

that he was battling with COVID, but it did appear that he was getting a little bit better. He is in ICU and was unresponsive, but from what I understand is responsive now. So prayers out to him, his family, loved ones. And yes, want to get that in there before we hit the gap in. Prayers to Jeremiah.

That was scary too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because most of the people I've seen as of late get contracted with COVID, including Joe, it seems like it had maybe gotten a little bit weaker, but that's clearly not the case, at least in all aspects. And from what I've heard, he didn't have any precondition that COVID would hit him worse, like if he had really bad asthma or some type of condition. Oh, he has asthma. Oh, he did? Okay, because when I was watching the 50 interview, he would suggest

he didn't have any of the things that made him. No, he 100% had something because they put him on incubation. Yeah. And when you're on incubation, at least how it was

explained to me, it's a tad bit different from just a ventilator. Yeah, so he does have asthma. Okay. Well, prayers to Jeremiah. Yeah, absolutely. For absolutely uh recovery and what is hard as difficult as it was for me to breathe and at the peak of my covid listen i totally can see

how if you had trouble breathing already right how it could it could get real bad for you so prayers to jeremiah hopefully he is. Hopefully he pulls through this thing. Yeah, it's like nothing but bad news in hip hop now. All the time. Yeah. And the good news, when it comes, it's so cookie cutter and label induced. It doesn't even feel real.

Where's the organic feel good stuff? Like just for the soul. Where's that? It's like the balance is off like when i talk about energy it's like we're not balanced anymore i'm all we're getting is politic bullshit entertainment bullshit sports bullshit and stock bullshit and real estate oh and real estate bullshit which i guess kind of goes back to your own life

and not to say I don't think anyone in this room or a lot of our listeners are live and die by what happens within music

or celebrities or just even presidential type news but yeah you have to find happiness within your immediate circle

cause there's nothing but negative shit happening around even if there is negative shit happening within your inner circle you gotta's nothing but negative shit happening around. Even if there is negative shit happening within your inner circle, you got to find the positive shit

close to home because it's not going to happen out here. Right. And I do believe it's positive things happening. I just think negative news moves faster.

True. True. It just feels like an influx of negative news regardless. Right. Well, listen, prayers to Jeremiah. Yeah, for real.

Prayers to the fans, family, and friends of Mothri. Yeah. Rest in peace, Bruce Sweden. Yeah, I saw that. Legendary. He did Thriller. Yeah, rest in peace. You don't have to say much more.

Human nature. Yeah. He did all of Quincy's stuff from the 70s on pretty much amongst other things but yeah rest in peace

you can start and stop with Thriller and that would be more than any anybody in our craft has accomplished so rest in peace

Bruce Whedon yeah no it's true died at 86 oh man and thank god that Benny's alright right, man. Shout out to Griselda. Yeah.

Because that would have haunted me with Wes just being here. Oh, no. That was. I know. Yeah. I got him. He texted me. I didn't want to talk about it.

Yeah. That shit just. That text was just. Yeah. Yeah. Quick pivot. Which shit has nothing to do with this when Maul kept saying

nobody's coming to save us I kept dying laughing because Gilligan's Island every episode was based around somebody coming to save them yeah that shit was on the air for a while too did they ever make it off?

I don't think ever nobody even got to the end it transformed into Lost shit was on there for a while too did they ever make it off i don't think ever see look nobody even got to the end no no uh it transformed into lost it just evolved the lost dudes didn't make it off right well they're all dead spoiler alert oh man that seems like such a good time to uh talk about the undoing right now let's do it it. No, we got important shit to get to. Oh, fuck it. We'll get to important shit later. Who did it? Spoiler alert.

If you're interested in watching, this is not an ad, not an ad, but it should be. HBO, what the fuck is going on? The undoing Sunday nights

on HBO at 9 p.m. starring Hugh Jackman, Nicole Kidman, and... Hugh Grant. No, Hugh Jackman. Starring Hugh Jackman, Nicole Kidman. Hugh Grant. Oh, Hugh Jackman. I'm sorry, Wolverine. Hugh Grant, Nicole Kidman, and Donald Sutherland putting on an absolute acting clinic on Sunday nights.

Even the little boy is doing a good job. It's always the kid they cast that fucks it up. Yeah, yeah. He's kind of killing it. Oh, my God. He's smoking this, man. They're doing a great job. So if always the kid they cast that fucks it up. Yeah, yeah. He's kind of killing it. Oh my God, he's smoking this, man. They're doing a great job. So if you're trying to watch it, we have spoiler alerts coming. But I mean, we still

know the end of it, so there's not really... Well, we're talking about things that have happened in the four episodes that have aired, and now it appears that they're trying to make it look like Dad did it. Well, every episode it seems like they try to make it look like somebody else did it. Yeah, that's what it looks like. So I i mean while there may be spoilers within this little conversation we have they still know that from there's still no end and i'm not sure that we'll get to the end

until the end what if we get to the end and they still don't tell us who did it i mean like what if they try to go into season two with this is there does this look like i think it's a mini i was about to say it doesn't look like a season two type thing with this. I think it's a miniseries. I could be wrong about that, though. Those get me kind of tight, though. I love miniseries. Don't try to bring me into a season two without knowing who killed it,

because I won't be there for that. But like, for example, with HBO, The Night Of. Well, that show, I don't know if they announced it as a miniseries. I think they just stopped doing it, which is a little different. It's one thing if you go into it like, yo, this is a miniseries.

They could have kept The Night Of with different cases. Yeah. Like, just don't miniseries meet so dope and then just end it. Well, they kind of... At least the OJ shit

went to, like, Versace and, like, they continued being dope. I'm waiting on their next one. Yeah. It's been a while. Why wasn't Rory in the writing room?

And, actually, dude from Versace is killing it on the Quavo. It's a good shot. That was a good shot. I'm here, man. The dude that played Versace is the cop

on the Undoing. Yeah. You didn't see that one, Joe? You wear a lot of Versace. I'm trying to get Quavo out of my head. The cop from the Undoing

from Undoing with the beard is Versace, man. Is Versace. I'm trying to get Quavo out of my head. The cop from that. From Undoing. Played the actual Versace man. Is Versace. From FX. Correct. There you go. Piece it all together. Come together.

Look at that. That is fucking Versace. I definitely feel like this is a. He's annoying me in this though. Oh, he's a cop. He's popping up with some new. You did it. We have you walking down the street at the time of the crime i wonder if actors have that in their head that i'm gonna be the

annoying role and my goal here and my good acting is gonna make me annoying but is that gonna take me out of my role for the next one like i don't like him anymore he annoyed the fucker like no he did his job he was supposed to be annoyed right well he's a good actor he did a good good job as Versace So that shows that he's got A little bit of range I like it What if it's the kid?

That's what I've been saying No Come on See A kid can't wield A fucking sledgehammer like that Sure you can They're teenagers

Close to teenagers And sledgehammers aren't Fam If the mom is a therapist And Donald Sutherland Is the ominous creature that he is in every movie. He's killing it too, man.

Why his grandkid can't be a killer too? I was thinking about the woman's kid. Oh, no, no, no. I wasn't talking about him. I don't really fuck with him like that. He's crying every time I see him.

I think it's between the woman's husband and Nicole Kidman. They better not make and Nicole Kidman. They better not make a Nicole Kidman. I do think that they were having sex together, though. Don't Shutter Island us. Don't fight club us. And the lady that got killed,

I think they had sex. They did. Oh, it seemed like it. They had sex. What do you mean by Shutter Island us? Oh, she was just crazy the whole time. She had a split personality. She didn't even know.

He knew at the end of Shutter Island. Huh? He knew at the end of Shutter Island. That's what they did in the center too, right? No, no. The center on HBO? Yeah. Did they?

No, no. What's the one where they started with? Was that a helicopter or a car outside? What's the one where they started with? Was that a helicopter or a car outside? What's the one where they started with the girl on the beach that was crazy? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a center. I'm sorry. I was thinking of The Visitor or whatever the fuck that was.

The Visitor. These fucking shows. When the devil wants to visit, will you be home? Let me check my schedule. I love the stupid taglines that come with these movies. Speaking of, Tenet, Tenet, Tenet, Tenet, Tenet. No, I didn't see it, but it's available for us to see from our homes December 15th. Okay.

They fooled me. I went and searched for it. They had a preview up. I can't wait to watch that from my house. Yeah, I didn't know what that select theater shit was. It's like, fam, there's no theaters over. At all. But back to Undoing, the dad went to the jail

to tell dude, yo, I'll kill you. Then went to the school to say, yo, I'll kill you. Like, listen, man. Donald's a G. Don't fuck with those Sutherlands.

Yeah, him or Kiefer. I'm not mad. I'm not mad at it being him, him being a killer, but I don't, the woman's husband and Nicole Kidman to me is still 1A. The woman's husband seems a little shady, man. Yeah, he's 1A. He's stalking.

His eyes are still red and swollen like a week later. It's like, all right, fam. When you see more, I can't ask them this, but when you see older white men with the same family name as you, do you think that you should go beat them up because it's their ancestors that caused harm? No, I never thought about that, Joe. My brother's a Sutherland, so

I thought about it before. And one of those little college sports reporters, there's a button running around. There's a white button? A little white girl button. What your family was doing. Why are you a button? Or what was your family doing? Right.

Or related somewhere. Don't do that, Rory. You can't make that joke. I mean, it was made. We were related somewhere down the line, I'm sure. Yeah, but I don't want to see remnants today. Don't be commentating the USC game in front of me. Without saying hello.

That was a good game. Yeah, man. All right, where's my phone? What else we got? What else we got? We skipped over Donald Glover's tweet since we're on TV that he said season three and four of Atlanta is written and they're looking to shoot it and that only the

Sopranos will rival them after the fourth season. I'm ready. I won't doubt him. That last season, Atlanta was so good that I believe him. First and second, both were insane. Hated it. You hated the second season? No, I didn't see it.

Oh. You just throwing hate out there? Yeah. I didn't see it, but I heard't hate out there yeah that shit was insane i didn't see it but i heard great things it was no atlanta is a really good show that's weird that you went and saw dave but didn't see atlanta dave was funny when i put it on the first time davis hilarious atlanta wasn't funny when i put it on the first time that's what that's my only statement but atlanta is supposed to be a funny i would say it has funny moments it's a comedic every time my black friends tell me it was good they say oh my god it's so funny well it's dry it's

a different type of atlanta curb yeah in a weird way with hip-hop yeah yeah it's a very dry you have to understand it type humor it's not a dave in your face funny yeah he's not shitting in puddles yeah exactly donald glover that's donald glover that's what it is yeah i'm looking forward i'm glad that uh that he announced that it's been written in in somewhat production yeah i'm ready because i am excited for atlanta me too what you're giggling about i want i don't want to report this shit either, but I mean, it's important information. It's back to that snow cone, old clone. Little buddy.

Little buddy. Gucci's having fun on IG. He's having some Instagram fun, and that's what I got. Yeah, okay. You can research it yourself. He's digging into that old Gucci bag. You know the guy who got hacked. You remember the tweets.

Name the top three most pussy rappers. I'll start. Go with I'll start. He asked himself this question. I'll set it off. Yo, this ain't the energy I want going into it though, man. Me neither. I don't think it's going to be like that though.

I think this is all... If you keep teasing me over my friend you killed, I'm not going in just ready to play the slaps I feel you I feel you especially if you play that slap yeah no no no

that song can't come on there needs to be something in the contract that that song can't come on yeah that was the phone call yeah when they settled on this that was the phone call. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When they settled on this, that was the call.

It was, all right now. I don't even want to talk about this. Yeah, but the thing about it is Versus is live, so. Yeah, when y'all think touring will be back? Yeah, like,

is there a second wave? We could just do Atlanta, Miami, Houston. I'm not going to Atlanta. Or Miami. Well, I'm going to Atlanta. Or Miami. Well, I'm going to Miami. Or Houston.

Well, I'm going to Houston, too. Yeah. I'm just going to skip Atlanta. Yeah. I'm going to just be low. I'm going to just be careful. You're going to be careful? Niggas got to be careful.

Stay on the outskirts. Niggas are risking for some pussy, but just be careful. All right. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Clubhouse, Houston, we have a problem. Clubhouse, we have a problem. All right. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Clubhouse,

Houston, we have a problem. Clubhouse, we have a problem. Or do you have a problem? I don't know. I predicted this one. Competition. Everybody predicted this one, Parks. It just happened. But it was expedited. I think Clubhouse still wins. I thought it would have been Instagram that snatched it up, though. But Twitter actually makes more sense.

Because Twitter did, and what we're talking about, for the people unfamiliar, Chitterhouse, it snatched it up though but twitter actually makes more sense yeah because twitter did and what we're talking about for the people unfamiliar uh chitter house chitter chatty house is a app that's still in beta mode that has not been released to the public it's invite only and it's a talk app it's where people get on there and just talk have conversations kind of like party line but not like party Line. It's pretty cool. Twitter announced today that they are

introducing competition for Clubhouse, Snapchat, and Insta Stories. Twitter's disappearing tweets called Fleets. It's cute. I like the called Fleets are It's cute.

I like Fleets. I like the name Fleets. That's clever. Are now available for everyone and I immediately went to check my third party Twitter app and my regular Twitter app. I didn't see it on there at all.

I didn't either. I got it. Twitter on Tuesday announced a global launch of Fleets. The ephemeral What's this word? Ephemeral tweeting feature? Ephemeral, I believe is the word.

Ephemeral. Adderall. No. Twitter's Adderall. Whatever the word is. Tweeting. I think it's ephemeral. The ephemeral, ephemeraleral the ephemeral tweeting feature

it first announced earlier this year and tested in various markets around the globe so they did test this I remember that yeah now

any mobile Twitter user regardless of where they live or what platform they're on will have access to the disappearing messaging feature which will sit right

at the top of the timeline in a row of stories like bubbles Twitter hopes the new feature where have I seen that before Twitter hopes the new feature will help reduce which will sit right at the top of the timeline in a row of stories like bubbles. Twitter hopes the new feature. Where have I seen that before? Twitter hopes the new feature will help reduce the pressure around tweeting by letter by letting users express more casual thoughts and feelings while also concerning themselves less with saying something profound. Shut up. I don't care about Twitter.

Why can't you just delete all of our tweets? Why can't we get an edit button? Bad news. Don't get that a button. I can't we get an edit button? Bad news. Nah, don't get the edit button. I don't want an edit button. Me either. Or just bring the delete all tweets button.

All right, but let's talk. I signed up for it. It's still not. Let's talk about what conference call Twitter means for Clubhouse. Trouble. I don't know that.

I think if Clubhouse keeps its exclusivity, they'll be better. They'll be better. They'll be profitable. Which I'm certain is not the plan. That's not the plan. But I would remix it now if I were them because I think having this on Twitter, this free-for-all, it could get way too overwhelming. And the people that are on

the Clubhouse shit would prefer to stay where it is. With less people. None of these tech companies want to build something for a couple thousand people. They already put Clubhouse at $100 million. Okay. You can still keep it relatively exclusive

and get up to a B. I'm positive that the venture capitalist's goal wasn't to hit 100 million evaluation and stop. And they probably also- When I say stop, I said you could still keep it exclusive, open it up a bit, and still hit a B. They're probably evaluating at 100 million considering thinking that it's going to grow. Them capping it, they're not like, oh, it's still 100 million. I'm certain that has to do with the amount of people on their waiting list as well. The data they're showing is not just the people on the app.

We've seen Twitter and Instagram kill plenty of apps that were feature-specific to their apps, as in IG Story, this audio version of Twitter. Yeah. So why not continue making your thing an exclusive thing and still be profitable? I don't know. I'm not. Then opening it up and losing to Twitter. They need to keep some type of exclusivity.

I agree. But I'm not sure that they're going to lose to Twitter. It's like when they said Tidal would lose to Apple. It's not quite the same fight. It's not a loss in what they're trying to accomplish. Well, if you make it free for all, it's the same thing as Periscope and Instagram Live. No, my community is right here. I have this amount of followers already and some type of platform on my own with Twitter.

So I'll do my quote-unquote clubhouse thing here instead of going to clubhouse where it was just a specific group. Have you keep it in this whole quote-unquote invite only cooler world yeah you're gonna be profitable i disagree clubhouse allows a video feature it's lit because what's profitable rory again we're talking about venture capitalists who are just tossing around millions and millions and millions of dollars into different shit and hoping something catches. I mean, I don't know the back story of Clubhouse and what venture capitalists are in it,

the amount of people that are in it. You know what venture capitalists mean? Of course I do. I just don't know what Clubhouse's background is on it, but I've seen what happened with Periscope. The guy's a venture capitalist and he put money into a whole bunch of shit, and one of them caught.

I can't think of any... That is a story. That's the background of it? I don't know. That's the story I'm talking about. Okay, he is one. I'm sorry. I can't think of any...

And maybe I'm wrong, and maybe you guys can point something out, but I can't think of any social media site, dating site, or anything in that realm that wanted to stay exclusive and was successful in doing so. Facts.

Okay. And let me rewind to what Rory was saying in doing so. Facts. Okay. And let me rewind to what Rory was saying earlier. But we have seen them fail. Is Snapchat dead? With the same feature. Is Snapchat dead? Yeah. Yes.

Kind of, yeah. I think there's still... But it's not dead. It's not dead dead, but it's... It's not Vine. That light is dead. That light did die. That was like really cool timing.

Yeah. Rest in peace, Snapchat. But Snapchat's not dead. It's still... It's dying. It still exists really cool timing. Yeah. Rest in peace Snapchat. But Snapchat's not dead. It's still dying. It still exists. It's been impacted. Is Vine dead? Yes. Is Periscope dead? Yes.

So I'm quite, I don't really understand why you guys think Clubhouse should go the same route they did just because you think exclusivity is not as profitable as opening it up to the entire public is? That's my question to y'all. We've seen it fail when the big guys come on the block and take your software and do it better because of their community.

So why not keep it exclusive because we've seen how it fails with these other companies. Because I don't think it's profitable. You don't think exclusivity is profitable? Not in social media. Do you think Soho House profits? Not in social media. We're talking about social media. I'm just asking. Yes, I think exclusivity is profitable. In certain aspects, yes it is. In social

media platforms, I do not think that that's a profitable thing. I think Clubhouse just needs to tweak the... Okay, Parks, do you think it's profitable with, if you have exclusivity to the right amount of people, that their dollar amount to advertisers and their influence is at a higher profit margin than just a bunch of people? Would you pay for Clubhouse? That's not what I'm saying.

I'm talking about the- I'm asking. I'm talking about the people that are in there, their dollar amount. What they're worth. I don't think they, I don't think, no. No, I don't think it's profitable. You think an artist on an app with a higher influence is worth more than just a bunch of people doing some shit for free? I don't know.

I'm still standing on the fact that I don't think social media apps are profitable unless a lot of people are on them. All right. But you can have both. You can have a lot of people are on them. All right. But you can have both. You can have a lot of people on an exclusive app. The venture capitalists are not trying to come up with an exclusive app. We don't have to debate it. We can talk to them. I think they are trying to figure out a cool way or a new way to kind of like make it seem like it's a real novelty type of thing. And as a user, I think it'll be way more fun to have a chat house on Twitter.

Or Instagram. I don't think that's how they started their game plan when creating it. Of course not. But you have to remix it now when you get your software. I'm not talking to niggas on Twitter. I'm not. I think some of these apps have conditioned me. Twitter, I'm conditioned to I think some of these, I'm conditioned. These apps have conditioned me. Twitter, I'm conditioned

to type to you niggas, and I don't want to hear y'all voices. I don't want to get in a room with a bunch of y'all and talk. I just don't. I'm open to being wrong about that in the future, but today, as it stands, I'm not really excited that Twitter is doing that. Can I quickly, quickly just interject to you proving my point to some degree there? You being

somebody that has a lot of influence and a lot of people listening to them very often, you're saying you don my point to some degree there you being somebody that has a lot of influence and a lot of people listening to them very often you're saying you don't want to do that with all these people on twitter but you will do it on a clubhouse yes that is profitable that is important i'm not arguing this stupid point with you that's not a stupid point at all i think it's the furthest thing from a stupid point i think it's you talking about being on clubhouse at a certain topic or you bringing other people and invites that have just as much influence as you

to discuss something, yes, it creates some type of buzz around I can't hear that, what is it about? It draws attention. So if you do that with enough people, yes, that's a profitable business. I don't understand how y'all don't see that. No, I think exclusivity is very profitable. don't see that. No, I think exclusivity

is very profitable. We do see that. That's just not what we're saying or arguing. Yes, you can be profitable exclusively. Parks and I are saying

we don't think that that's the case ever on social media apps. I'm saying that wasn't their plan either. I'm saying remix it now that Twitter has it. Add video.

Clubhouse should just add video, keep it exclusive. I love how we just sit around and say really huge tasks as if they're really, really simple to pull off. This is like when the single gets ahead of you, to put it in terms that we can better understand. Somebody put a lot of money into a bunch of different things. One of them took off because of the people, the people.

We decided we had the power. And then he saw something that's that let him know that dictated from us. And now it's ahead of him. And now he's and he should have been scrambling for a little while now to figure out the best way to monetize it and grow it i don't think he saw this happening this quickly this happened fast and also i mean he ran into the idea that it was cool before it was profitable and when you start trying to make it when you try to monetize it it takes away a lot of the cool factor and listen some of the things wait let me just get this point out before I forget parts.

The founders of Clubhouse every Sunday do a room where they're explaining Clubhouse to the new users. And stealing ideas. And a lot of people enter those rooms every Sunday because it's exciting. I don't go in them because anytime I've been in them, all I've heard is that they don't know. They're finding cool and really educated ways to say, they're telling you, I don't know right now.

Listen, Twitter as a- This blew up and we're trying to deal with it day by day. I'm not even sure they have the staffing in place. I'm sure, yeah. Twitter, as of a couple of years ago, was still trying to figure out how to monetize. Yeah. And they had been around for half a decade or more. I don't know when they officially, officially launched.

But it's not easy for these companies, excuse me, to figure out how to monetize. So when someone like Twitter or Facebook already has the infrastructure, they don't really give a fuck if it's monetized, if it's profitable, they can swoop in. And I think it will be a more successful idea platform on facebook and twitter and i think both facebook and twitter will implement a similar feature i'll put it this way to close my point on what i think clubhouse could be it's the same way that huge brands let's use

pepsi for example will dump millions and millions of dollars into these events that only 50 people can get into. I get it. I get what you're saying. There is a way to do influencer marketing on social media with an app like this, and I think that's what Clubhouse should focus on. It shouldn't focus on trying to beat Twitter at its game when its community is in the billions. I think they shouldn't make the same mistake Periscope and everybody else made.

I think you should focus on that world where that exclusivity, which is profitable with the billions i think they shouldn't make the same mistake periscope and everybody else made i think you should focus on that world where that exclusivity which is profitable whether you're a venture capitalist or not it's the same way brands do it all the time with real events in real life why not do it in social media i completely understand and try to only invite people that have a huge following i know that's corny but but i don't think that becomes corny like you have to get corny to make profit, unfortunately. And this is to my point about the people running things. I don't think that that's where Periscope failed.

I don't think that's where Ustream failed. I think all at Vine, whatever we want to name that came and went and died, if the people were there, they're up. It don't really matter how many people, but if the people were there in support of these different uh apps then periscope is still here right yes but they were not built on this cool idea of oh you have to get invited it's the the same way so many other companies i'll even put it to the palooza shit the vibe became around wait I have to get invited to that how do you get in like that allure does shit to people

whether we like it or not no I completely understand what you're saying that's true but how you start and how you end you're right but how you start

and how you end it's two different things Facebook started for colleges and turned into whatever it turned into Clubhouse started for it started for the corporate techie people to find a way to speak to each other and work together right and now just that fast because of us the people it has turned into something else spotify same it's like so you

can start as one thing like your palooza points on some invite only cool blah blah blah she like pergola last time any Soho house, it probably was more exclusive at one point and then opened up to some more people. Yeah, absolutely. And the thing that we're not factoring in with this tech shit is I don't know how expensive this shit was to build and develop and get to where it even is now.

Maybe they're massively in the hole. I just don't think every app on social media has to live with, we have to open this up to as many users as possible to be profitable. That's my only point. I don't think they have to be that. The same way Soho House, if they invited everyone in, would probably not be as profitable as they were. I think that Clubhouse will get to that.

It's a slow burn. Everybody that joins, you have now an invitation to bring somebody else in. If you got an app, you need people. Yeah. That's the only thing I don got an app, you need people. Yeah, yeah. That's the only thing I don't understand about what you're saying. People are slowly coming to Clubhouse. No, I'm not saying any people. If Quibi had people, they would still be here.

Any of the apps and the techie sites, if y'all had the people, you might still be here. It's very different from SoHouse. I don't think you need the fucking floodgates open. No, it is similar because SoHouse profits off, I mean, of course, your dues as a member, but the exclusivity of going to it, the allure of going to it. You spend money there. You bring people in like, hey, let's do the meeting here.

Like, yes, there's some allure. That's a whole different type of world that is profitable. I think that Clubhouse just- It's just not the typical, let's invite every last person in here in charge for a drink. Because Soho House is not targeting the entire country

nor are they trying to put a Soho House in every state in the country. So that's why I'm saying the same thing with Clubhouse. Clubhouse is doing it right. It's a slow burn.

They probably are not equipped to have that rush of people just jump on the app right now anyway. I think we'll be looking back on this conversation and say, what happened to Clubhouse? No. They need to make the right move right here jump on the app right now anyway i think we'll be looking back on this conversation say no what

happened to clubhouse no they need to make the right move right here and back to me and my creator spiel it all has to do with the people that you approach tech themselves can't get people there oh no no people yeah get people there very much so. I watched the founders hop in rooms all day today, replying to and explaining what's going on with the Twitter stuff and Clubhouse shit. I said, holy shit, y'all are scared to death. You're under pressure, yeah, absolutely. Why are y'all in the Meesee room? Because.

That's the room. Fam, just tell me that you're under pressure because my my point for the last half many years is there's a really small window here where you techie people will have to partner with niggas like me with the creators that bring the audience if you want to survive or you just be a victim to big tech too you're gonna need to bring audience over there and clubhouse can survive if you include the right people yeah but if you do not do that and you're just arrogant and on your techie shit all of that shit that oh i can't mention it uh oh that we're later gonna get yeah yeah yeah we'll get we'll get into it later

i can't talk about it right now but yeah if you don't just get in there and feel yourself. Yeah. Yeah, no, no. You can do it. You can do it. Clubhouse is still a good app. I still don't know how the Twitter shit is going to pan out. Yes, we've seen Facebook do this with Snapchat and all this other shit.

But I still have to watch some of this play out. I do. I think more will be revealed. And I would like to see how clubhouse responds because you are going to have to respond you can't if you just sit pardon me um i don't think it's going to end well yeah i mean twitter implementing this is giving me everything that i would enjoy about Chathouse if they had it. Like being able to have media and being able to have words along with

the chat conversation, it's already there in Twitter, so why would I ever go to Clubhouse again? I mean, well, I'll say why I would go to Clubhouse is because Twitter's going to overwhelm me. Too many fucking people. There's ways that they could make rooms private or exclusive or whatever

the same way you can have a private anything else on any of these i'm conditioned for 11 years going on 12 years now to get on twitter tweet a quick thought and get out of there they would have to uh back to the social experiment recondition me now to do this phone call voice shit on twitter and my usage on twitter is not even i'm not even there enough for you to recondition me that recondition point is going to get into our later point yeah i can't wait what do you think about them doing the uh what do you think about them doing the snapchat shit the insta snap uh i mean i i don't particularly care i wish i'm not really

gonna look at it i'll be honest i with you. I wish they'd get creative. Like, make up some new shit. Just stop stealing all the shit that we have already. Y'all got all the money and resources in the world. Make something new. I wouldn't be mad at them. At least make an attempt to get Instagram out of here because I hate Instagram now.

And then I'm sitting in that fucking... I'm sitting... You off IG? I deleted it the other other day but i went back i'm kind of off it twitter is not gonna get instagram i didn't put a picture up in a month yeah i hate instagram i'm sitting in that room the the the the measly room that that they're in talk discussing this and the founders are in there on stage talking and i'm listening to a room full of people just freely give away IP and ideas for the free

to these people. I wanted to throw the phone across the room. You know what they call those in advertising? They call them focus groups where they pay for everyone's lunch and they bring in the consumer that they're looking for. I'm serious.

I witness this all the time. Say, for example, they were trying to market to Don Julio. They would invite that demographic. They'd pay for your lunch. They'd sit there, ask all these questions, and literally get every single answer that they were too dumb to get and make all the money. Same shit.

It's called a focus group. Same shit. Y'all getting played at all those focus groups. Just to let y'all know. That was really disappointing to me to hear that to hear just people just give away ideas to tech people and venture capitalists yeah the game was to be sold not told i agree with that dear and again i'm just watching it's difficult for me to have this conversation because I'm either in talks or hoping to be in talks with some of these people. Right. So I can't come on here and just talk the way I would like to talk. All I can do is kind of observe until it's time to take action.

But I'm very intentional in how I use these apps. And how I speak to the people involved in these apps. And I think other people should be too. That's what I'll say there. The boy was they shouldn't bricks. That's pressure. Listen, you can hear nervousness. You saw Jack's beard. You can hear it. Yeah, they had all our people under pressure.

You saw that nose ring. Yeah, Jack is chilling. You have people, right? There are people? There are people There are people Who Jack Mark

Chati They're not our people They're not our people They're not They don't give a fuck about you I meant our As in Fang The social

The people that Do the stuff That's all And I am still rooting for him I am Sometimes you gotta root For niggas against you That's stuff. That's all. And I am still rooting for them. I am. Sometimes you got to root for niggas against you. That's a fact.

That's like rooting when your team is not in the World Series and you're like, I just want to see a good game. That's what you're doing. No, or sometimes, hey, that's a great example.

Sometimes the team that's in the World Series beats your team. So now you're rooting for that team because it'll make you feel good because the team that won beat your team. So now you're rooting for that team because it'll make you feel good because the team that won beat your team.

Same shit! Ta-da! All goes back to sports. Alright, you other podcasters, let me show you how the magic's made. Tossing it to Rory, our Scooter Braun analyst

for all things regarding Scooter Braun analyst for all things regarding Scooter Braun and Taylor and JB, the Biebs and Ariana and what's the big girl that's small now

that's dating one of them London niggas. That London nigga get around. Who's London? Sam Smith? Nah. What are you? You're the London rapper.

That was a good shot, man. They'll jump you in London if you say that Sam Smith is the hard London rapper. He's not drill rap? They'll beat your ass. They'll beat your ass. They will kill you. London is not sweet. Not at all.

Scooter Braun is just a white QC. He is kind of the white QC. He's white. He's the white QC. He is kind of the whites QC. He's white. He's the whites QC. He's the whites P. He's the whites P. I've been peeped his game. Coach Scooter?

Yeah, it's Coach Scooter. All right, Rory, hit it. Scooter Braun reportedly sells Taylor Swift's Masters for more than $300 million. At least change some of the shade room words. Taylor's now re-recording her music. Didn't we hear this before, though, that she was going to re-record all her music?

She's been throwing it in there for a while. I don't care what you re-record if our soldiers should already be ready for 300 minutes. Have a blast. Some 17 months after Scooter Braun's Ithaca Holdings LLC acquired Big Machine Label Group and all of its recorded music assets, sources tell Variety that the veteran manager and entrepreneur has sold the master rights to Taylor Swift's first six albums. The buyer and investment fund is yet unknown, but the deal will be believed to be north of $300 million and close within the last two weeks. million and closed within the last two weeks. Some insiders speculate the value could be as

high as $450 million once certain earnbacks are factored in. I'm going to hit the round of applause button really quick. Taylor doesn't sample, right? I doubt it. She doesn't sample. She's never been on the MP. Yeah.

Taylor never sampled. She never hit preen for the remix? Nah. She used all instruments. Banjos and shit. I want to give a round of applause for how far Rory's reading has come. I also can't. By the way, my throat is on fire.

That hurt to get that out. Hey, yo. I've said, come on. Not today. He preempted. I did. But the whole thing, my throat is on fire. It hurts, yo. I've said, come on. Not today. He preempted. I did. But the whole thing, my throat is on fire. It is.

It hurts, man. That hurt getting that out. Yeah, I've been quiet this whole pod, man. I'm in a lot of pain. That's nasty. You got to tell him to take it easy on you, buddy. Rory's nasty. I applaud the man that Rory's turned into over the last seven years.

He used to be a real piece of shit. That's true. But now his reading's improved. He's fucking faithful and honest. I tried, man. Doing good for himself. He's got a dog now. I don't do nothing. I know Basley is sick

of you like your fam. Can you take one more picture of me? There's nothing else to do. She's mad cute. When the old work don't even hit you on the birthday or something, you know it's over No no no no no Like you're a family man

No no no no It's different now When the old work Like really hit you as a friend The old work still hits you Yeah yeah But it's a different Like on some real bro shit

Not even like the Oh let me just try to be cool Like respect what you got Going on bro shit But don't throw a little Comment in there Like yo you know where home is Like they don't even do that

No no no It's over It's over. It's completely over. Old work, now that you say that, can get real disrespectful when they get in that vibe. Then they start calling you like, hook me up with a friend. Like, I know you still old work. Yo, we fucked. You trying to hook them up? No, I like, yo, what's up

with mall? Like, well, alright. Now you're going to be passing off. Hey, hey you gotta hear my escape on chitter chatty house now when the girls say come on joe hook us up with some of your millionaire friends i'm like wait i ain't gonna shit on my friends but uh fuck y'all want me to do i guess i sneak right out of that one. Oh, man. All right. So what do you think about this Scooter Braun fiasco? Swag.

I'm not going to move the goalposts because I'm not a Taylor Swift fan. 300 million passively is. That's crazy. The passive 300 mil for me. It's not that crazy. Oh, well, she posted something clearing things up. Did it clear things up? I can't read this much.

All right. Taylor Swift says, hey, you guys. My throat is about to close. I wanted to give you a word. Some words in there. We got to play throw baby for Rory. Hey, yo. I wanted to check in and update you guys.

As you know, for the past year, I've been actively trying to regain ownership of my master recordings. With that goal in mind, my team attempted to enter into negotiations with scooter brawn scooter's team wanted me to sign an ironclad nda stating i would never say another word about scooter brawn unless it was positive before we could even look at the financial records of bmlg which is always the first step in a purchase of this nature taylor we're all the poorest so we've never done anything at this nature let me just tell you that one so I would have to sign a document that would silence me

forever before I could Taylor does a really good job of making very normal business practices sound like the most dramatic shit in the world

Taylor yes yes Scooter wants an NDA from you so you never speak about how he fucked you you've only been shitting on him for

yeah what are you saying here hey and I want to shit on Scooter Braun like the next man does, but come on, man. So I'd have to sign me forever. My legal team said that this is absolutely not normal, and they've

never seen an NDA like this presented unless it was to silence an assault accuser by paying... Yo, fam, why are we talking about assault right now and assault accusers right now when we're in a master... Her masters have been assaulted. Yeah. He would never even quote my team a price.

It's not for sale. These master recordings were not for sale to me. A few weeks ago, my team received a letter from a private equity company called Shamrock Holdings letting us know that they had bought 100% of my music videos and album art from scooter braun this was the second time my music had been sold without my knowledge the letter told me that they wanted to reach out before the sale to let me know but that scooter braun had required that they make no contact with me or my team or the deal would be off uh great lawyers he's got yeah and he's not wrong as soon as we

started communication with shamrock i learned that under their terms scooter braun will continue to profit off fam all right i'm done with tailswift scooter braun did good business with his bad business that you did yeah and it's regular business he bought the label that owned all your shit so you really shouldn't be that mad at Scooter. Let's just say Scooter is just some unknown source. It's just because it's Scooter Braun. Well, no, it was his label, wasn't it? He bought, I believe that's what that article said.

I thought that he owned the label. After 17 months after Scooter Braun's Ithaca Holding LLC acquired Big Machine Label Group and all of its recorded music assets. So yeah, apparently, I guess, Taylor was signed to this Big Machine Label Group and all of its recorded music assets. So yeah, apparently, I guess, Taylor was signed to this Big Machine Label Group, which as most contracts have, would own all your masters, all your artwork, everything. He bought it. So it's just a story because it's Scooter Braun. This happens often.

I mean, she's just as mad as any other artist. I understand it. No doubt. But the label owned it. You can't be mad at Scooter here. Right. More or less. It's the contract that was signed.

But again, I'm not going to move the goalposts because we've sided with so many artists in this exact same situation. I've sided with labels in certain situations too because the label deserves to profit as well. Well, they not only profited. They literally own her. No, they not only profited, they literally own her. No, they sold her for five records or whatever. She's profiting off a multiple of a profit margin.

Right. That they own it. She's profited too. Yeah. I have a profit margin. She feels like she should have. Well, her issue, from what I gather,

is that he never, or they never, presented her with the opportunity to purchase because she has the money. Right. So you fucked me, you sold it, and you're profiting still. And that could have been me. Right. And I get that.

I get that. I sympathize. Yeah, I sympathize because I have a heart. I sympathize. But at the same time, I also sympathize with label owners, whether it's Scooter buying out the label or whatever,

like they, Big Little, what is it, Big Little Music, whatever the fuck it is, they, at the time, paid... Big Spoon, Little Spoon.

Big Spoon, Little Spoon. They paid time for these records to get done. These records don't get done without the label. Normalize men admitting that we enjoy the Little Spoon.

I like to be the Little Spoon sometimes. I love to be the Little Spoon. I prefer to be the Little Spoon. You crazy? And sometimes you get the little retcharine when you be the little spoon sometimes. I love to be the little spoon. I prefer to be the little spoon. You crazy? And sometimes you get the little retcharine when you're the little spoon. Oh, no. When I wrap that arm back and force her leg places, it's like awesome.

Mad places she don't want to go. Fuck you doing? Covet me. Covet me. Yes. Be my book bag. They'd be tiny as hell back there

keeping you safe or big as hell one or the other oh man listen man Taylor go re-record all your shit that's it

put it out that's it you could probably afford better producers and shit now than you could at the time you're Taylor Swift now yeah

like you can do some cool shit with your shit do it and that's your shit. Do it. And that's our report. I understand it. That's our report on the whites. Same Kanye fight that we haven't heard anything from since. Oh, no. Actually, that's not the last of our the whites report.

Here's another white. I've walked back my, I don't want to say hate, but my non-kind words of this white. Which is hate. Yeah, I don't want to say hate, but my non kind words of this white, uh, which is hate. Yeah.

It wasn't quite hate. It was just a, you know, not for me type thing. You know, it's cause I mixed a song in the album. You did it for me. Well,

I've walked back to say before you mix it, but that, that helped, uh, Russ, I apologize. I've apologized before. You're really good at making music,

man. I'm sorry. Your name in the credits. Where do they even publish credits? Title. Where can I learn that? If I don't know Parks Valley, where do I learn that? Title.

Title. Yeah, don't tell me because we're friends. Yeah, whatever. Well, yeah, Russ put out an EP. That's dope. Called Chomp, which is just a funny word to me. Especially when you have laryngitis and your throat hurts. And you can't chomp.

Y'all are stupid. No, you can worry worry might still try to get a chomp out under the covers have y'all ever gotten a sore throat after you can pussy too long sore jaw i'm not an animal what type of animal are you because i'm or like i'm getting in there the little the little thing underneath the tongue. Getting all the bacteria. From brushing on your teeth. The little thing that connects your tongue to the body. You know that little thing? The car you was talking about?

The little ball? No, not that one. Not the ball. The little, like, the wire. Yeah, the little. Like from bumping up against your teeth? The elastic. Oh, yeah, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You felt that in her box? No, no. Oh. No. Your tongue really gets sore when you got to go to work on one of those clits that's hiding. Oh, yeah. With the real thick pussies? Come on out, little clitty.

You got to separate with your hands? Yeah. Come on out. I'm trying to fucking pleasure this bitch. This thing is protected. God damn it. Yo, just when I thought y'all weren't any sicker, bro. Come on out, little cler. You know that.

Come on out, little Clint. You know that, Clint. You know the one tucked away, sleeping in there. Oh, my God. And she's one of those, I never come. Yeah, I know. Because the thing's hitting. Yeah.

Your body is designed not to come. I hate women that just are so proud of what's wrong with them. I don't come off penetration. You're a weirdo. And you should leave now. Yeah, you should go learn yourself. Because I just came.

I'm here to penetrate. My only job here is to penetrate. Oh, man. Anyways, the Chomp album. The Chomp album. Come on. Y'all the whites are getting your shit. I heard what y'all were playing when I walked in. I heard enough of it. That's just dope. anyways the Chomp album the Chomp album come on

y'all the whites get in your shit I heard what y'all were playing when I walked in I heard enough of it I heard enough of it to know that Russ killed a few dudes

featured and that Russ was trying to kill a few dudes featured it felt like I sent this record already in mind that you were gonna be

the feature and I was gonna kill you on it yeah and the beats sound tailor made like he called the producer and said yo this is who's feature and I was going to kill you on it. Yeah. And the beats sound tailor-made. Like he called the producer and said, yo, this is who's featured and I'm going to kill him.

I've been working on this verse for a year. Russ is a lot better of a rapper than I thought he was, honestly. Yeah, no, no. I walk back a lot of it. Yeah, he really is. Russ is nice. And this EP is great.

I'm just not used to seeing... Look at what has to happen for men in hip hop to admit we were wrong somebody has to make 20 million a year sell out 20,000 seat venues across the world get Rihanna to post your shit

also rap really good with people that rap good Rihanna's posting your shit you better have a flow and have a record that caught a couple of billboard joints and then we'll say yo man I was wrong maybe I was mistaken

and I know a few joints he talked to I was like alright Russ it always starts there for us I'm just not used to that's your Eskimo right there I'm just

oh Rory could never please please I'm just not used to the man bun in hip hop that's all yeah but when all the other dots connect the man bun in hip hop that's all yeah but when all the other dots connect

the man bun don't touch my hair my bad Rory Rory does not have a man bun or the ability to grow one doesn't Belly have a man bun huh

sometimes he cuts his hair Belly yeah he cuts his hair and he lets it grow sometimes but like Russ has like he's flaunting the man bun yeah

like he'll he'll put his hair in a bun mid set like like he'll put his hair in a bun mid set like he'll readjust his bun mid set I was just saying I don't like Maul as a black man

talking about white hair I'm offended that's all I have to say my bad that's one of your triggers I'm sorry I didn't mean to make it like racial

or anything like that I'm just not used to the man bun and well conditioned hair in hip hop what year your baby hairs left Rory I don't think I ever had baby hairs

that's something white people don't get right nah we don't really do that I mean kinda all our hairs is baby hair everything's baby hair it's just all baby hair ew let's move on

anyways check out Chomp it's a good EP it's a good EP you got 9th on there, Preem, Alchemist. I think he did three or four. Yeah, he got rappers. Blackthorn, Benny. Busta, Absol, Crooks on there.

He on there with some rappers. I like Russ. Yeah, me too. Me too. I like him. Me too. Wale has something happening on Friday, right? I was going to ask you. Is that announcing a project, a single? Rory, you are our Wale insider. I have not, right? I was going to ask you. Is that announcing a project, a single? Rory, you are our Wale insider. That's true.

I have not spoken to him since it came out. Call him. So you're our Wale outsider. Call him. I don't know if I want to call him. It's always good to talk to Wale. Rory's a Wale outsider now. Rory's a Wale outsider now.

Wale probably won't answer If I call I think Meek has like A full pack of something Meek has something Coming as well You don't have to call him Meek has music

Dropping as well Meek also deleted His socials Until Friday When the music drops I'm not sure Who else comes out St. John

St. John is Friday Oh really Yeah St. John While the world Is burning I saw you teasing Some features On the IG Yeah it's a really good project It's an EP is friday oh really yeah saint john while the world is while the world is burning i saw i saw you teasing some features on the ig yeah it's a really good project it's an ep or a album it's an album oh wow album yeah oh that gives me something to look forward to on this side

yeah it's a lot of it's a lot of good records on there good music jesus is coming too actually jesus friday jesus christian yes recession okay so is music happening yeah we back okay Jeezy is coming too, actually. Jeezy Friday? Yeah, I think so. Recession. Okay. Recession too. So is music happening? Yeah. We back. Okay. Meg the Stallion.

Oh, not to cut you off. Didn't LVRN put out like a Christmas? They did. Yep. That came out already? Yeah. Oh, well, fuck us. I saw the promo.

Yo, Roy, if you don't get that fake excitement for a Christmas album out here, we cannot be this. Yo, that dropped. I'm sorry. I want a black Summer Walker. Yeah, I'd like to hear this. I like Christmas albums. I like everyone on their fucking label. Of course I want to hear their Christmas album.

Y'all into those? Maybe I'm off here. I mean, like this. Yeah, someone dope on it. Anything that has black Summer Walker and West Side Boogie on one album as a compilation, I would like to hear it. I think it's cool. Yes.

Absolutely. I don't think that's weird at all. I hate y'all. I think it's cool. Joe still want to hit Boyz II Men this Christmas. His Mariah Carey. When is she going to do NBC Good Morning America? Joe's not into holiday albums.

Oh, I love holiday albums. I did really like Boyz II Men put out a really good holiday album. Oh, holiday albums. I did really like Boys to Men put out a really good holiday album. They got one of the best ones ever. I wake up and play Donny Hathaway this Christmas

and call it a day. I don't play Dipset's Christmas album. I don't play Mariah All I Want for Christmas is You. I've already played that 15 times.

All right, then what on earth do you like? If you don't like Mariah all the time. They also are white. Well, yeah, they are white.

You can't change that. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, whatever the Christmas album with the Keith Haring painting, my mom played all three of those. Yeah.

That was the one in our house. All right, so when does this Christmas album drop? I think it's out. It's out. Before Thanksgiving,

apparently. Oh, no. Tomorrow, which this was a day ago, so today. Home for the holidays. There we go. Oh, man. No, which this was a day ago, so today. Home for the holidays. There we go. Oh, man.

No economics involved in that decision they released before Thanksgiving. This is just organic Christmas music to soothe our souls. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. The industry is in crisis. They are struggling. I don't think LVRN is struggling. They're not.

I said the music industry is in crisis and struggling. You don't have notice, Joe, about you? Give it to me. I hate everything. You don't think, not only that,

that's an obvious one. I don't need to point that out. You don't ever think artists can just do some shit for fun. Right. Like, yo, what if we just did this

and it was fun and we just put it out? You don't think that could ever exist in any part of the world. Especially now when you have to just be home, kind of.

You can't imagine that a group of people that all grew up together would go, that could ever exist in any part of the world. Especially now when you have to just be home, kind of. Fuck it. You can't imagine that a group of people that all grew up together will go, yo, it'd be hilarious if we did a Christmas album and we could knock this out

in two weeks. Let's just do it. Who grew up together? All these people, from my understanding. Summer Walker grew up with Black? This part of Atlanta. I think LVRN is all from East Atlanta.

Get this marketing shit out of here. All right. All right, I need more confirmation on that. That's what I'll say. They all grew up together. They grew up together and put a Christmas album out. I'm rolling with that if that happened. Oh, shit, the kids from the hood are singing for Christmas together.

Even if they're a crew that's been together for quite some time. They can't just have some fun? I support LVRN, so I'm going to support it. Because you didn't think... Me and you are doing our Joe and Rory fight. You think that. No, I'm not rolling with that one. And you also don't think Uzi and Future could run into each other and be like,

yo, it'd be great if we just did some music together. That could never happen. It would have to be Kaiser and someone got together with the Illuminati and was like, here you go. Oh, that's what you say. Ha, ha, ha. No, that was just another example. Ha, ha, ha.

I see what you're saying now. You just don't think artists get together and do some fun shit. So let me get to it. Well, do artists run hip hop? No, Scooter Braun runs hip hop. Exactly. So that's why I don't think artists can just get together and do fun stuff. Because even when you want to do that, Scooter's fun.

You don't think artists ever run into each other without Michael Kaiser next to them? Like they could run into a studio and be like, yo, we just knocked out five joints. This is dope. Then go to their label and be like, hey, we might have something. That happens. That happens. I don't want to make this podcast out to say that the labels really run so much. Like a lot of times artists just be having fun.

Just stop here for two seconds so I can be clear on what you're saying. And we're not going to stay here because it's not that important. You're saying there's plenty of times that two artists might see each other, get together and create something, some link up fun organic shit, go to the label, say this is what I did with such and such. Right? Was that the end? Well, I'm not saying that collab albums happen very often but i'm just saying in general but walk me past it is what i'm saying i don't think anytime two big artists get together it's because two label heads said yo y'all should get together i think a lot of times artists respect each other's work it starts

from a relationship but what i'm saying is i go to me and maul's label we do two hottest dudes out there and i say yo me and maul got together on street we cooked this up it's a project here i hand it to my label what happened what's the next step from there because i think the next step is business time absolutely yeah who's the one so why is rory calling me the Illuminati supporter because I'm saying that business is involved when we see this stuff no you make it sound like

when Future and Uzi the two hottest dudes get together if I'm Epic and Atlantic oh yeah I'm on the phone for a month getting this together and figuring

we're gonna figure this out but it's business no no no you make it sound prior to yeah you make it sound like it was a a label decision a play date that the parents put together that wasn't my original point y'all in the studio that was not my original point with the uzi and future thing my original

point was one i made way before i even knew about that which is older older dope acts are figuring out other ways to appeal to a younger demographic. Sure. That was my only point there. I don't know why that was argued so much. I don't know if that was your only point, but... What I'm saying, I don't... Well, like you telling me these niggas grew up together and made a Christmas album. I don't know how tight Future and Uzi is.

None of my business. I just know they both popping. And listen, I'm clear. I could be wrong. Maybe there was a bunch of people that was waiting for that. Like in the streets. They almost had 120,000 units first week. So a lot of people were waiting.

They don't say that to me. Okay. I actually thought that was low. They don't say that to me, though. Okay. All right, come on. Off it is. We spent enough time here.

Yeah. What else we got? Congratulations to Uzi and Future. And apparently there is a part two to that coming so dope and shout out to LVRN and uh

and Russ and Christmas and Russ and uh if there's a Hanukkah album somewhere out there go get that as well I'm working on a Christmas album

right now put that Meg put that Meg track list back up Meg the Stallion has been announced as GQ's Rap Artist of the Year

I know you're just as confused as me GQ's about clothes but she is GQ's Rap Artist of the Year. I know you're just as confused as me. GQ's about clothes. But she is GQ's Rap Artist of the Year, and she also released... I always felt like they were the deciding factor of who was... Yeah, who's hot.

Who was the hottest. Oh, yeah. I always wonder who's hot, and then I go to GQ's page. Yeah. Matter of fact, I think a lot of the arguments we have on this podcast could just be solved by calling the editor of GQ.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, Megan Thee Stallion released the track list arguments we have on this podcast could just be solved by calling the editor of GQ yeah yeah it's a good point well Megan The Stallion released the track list to her album that's the Illuminati shit that's the bullshit the GQ article with hottest rapper of the that's the make-believe let's put everything in the pot together yeah it's not LVR. It's not Future and Uzi. This is the bullshit. Yeah. Agreed. And granted,

it helps. I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at Meg for it, but this is the label bullshit. GQ Artist of the Year. Like, that's the bullshit. And not to say Meg doesn't deserve

to be Artist of the Year by any means. That's what it sounds like. No, but that's just, that's the label. No, don't do that.

GQ is not a music platform. Don't do that. Don't do that. Shout out to GQ, the rapper. Believe what GQ says about black women. Okay. Honestly, don't do that.

No, this is the label or the management company calling GQ and saying, hey, she got an album. No, calling everyone. What do you guys think of the 17 song track list? I'm just ready

for the Scissor record. Oh, yeah. Let's go through the Freaky Girls. Freaky Girls. I wonder what that one's about. You're going to be a Freaky Girl. I'm just ready for the Scissor record. I think it's called Freaky Girl. Freaky Girl. I wonder what that one's about. You ready to be a freaky girl? I'm into it. Well, we have Cry Baby featuring

DaBaby. Ah. Y'all ain't even see how Meg did that. Do It On The Tip featuring the City Girls. That should have been T.I. No, it shouldn't have.

Sugar Baby. Definitely shouldn't have. Sugar Baby. Definitely should have. It should be the City Girls. Sugar Baby is After Cry Baby. Movie featuring Lil Durk. Freaky Girls featuring SZA. Who was creating these titles? Body, What's New, Work That, Intercourse featuring Popkin.

Popcon. Popcon. Go Crazy featuring Big Sean and 2 Chainz. Don't Rock me to sleep outside savage remix featuring beyonce girls in the hood and don't stop featuring young thug now how do those track titles sound like the album will sound like a great mega album shots fired off the intro i can see the ass is shaking now, Joe. Shots fired. Number one.

Track one. Getting into it. Getting into it. Circles. Circle back. Did you get it? You got to run in circles after shots was fired. It's true.

And then you have to cry after. Yo, the rest of this could change too. Do it on, forget it. Yeah. Congratulations to Meg. When does this album come out? I think this Friday,

no? Is it really? This is the debut album, right? Again. Yeah, another debut. This is the third

debut. Third time's the charm. Chance still ain't debut. That's true. Can I get a projection on what y'all think this album will do 250

Really Yeah What you doing on the last one Buck something I think Let me see 250 first week Yeah what do you got more While Parks looks that up

I'm between 150 and Two I'm between 140 and 160 150 and 2. I'm between 140 and 160. I'm with Maul. 150 and 2? Yeah.

She already got the Savage remixes on there. Good night. That's already it. Well, yeah, I don't know what the rules are now and how that plays into everything. That plays in. I'm excited to hear a new mega album. That shit plays in. Maybe I'll cap it at 225.

Okay. She got to do numbers. Yeah. No, I hope she breaks two. I hope we're all wrong. I hope she does beyond those numbers. What do you mean we're all wrong? 250 is great.

That sounds crazy. I hope she does more than that my 141.60 was great she gotta do numbers numbers but Friday and Tori's still going along and just acting like nothing's ever happened

in the court case pending he's releasing music he's still releasing music? and announcing it yeah I wouldn't know back to I'm not gonna say it because i'm not gonna promo his shit here but these guys are being creative with the holidays hey thanksgiving i got my turkey leg project coming there is no thanksgiving music so i mean yeah yeah while we're there uh what are y'all plans

for thanksgiving Friendsgiving? I feel like I ask y'all this every week. Well, nine of us because we have to obey restrictions will be in the house. It'll be nine. I'm not going to. I wish it's ten. Talking to my family. So, y'all are still going to do this?

No, I don't think so. My family, they're kind of off Thanksgiving. Mine as well. Yeah, I don't know if I'm doing anything. We were talking about maybe doing like a Zoom and everyone share a recipe or something like that. So, we kind of feel like we're eating the same shit together. My family was like, let's link Christmas. They're going to dead that too.

Yeah, no. This was the first year. I was actually even shocked at my family. I thought they'd try to find something like, all right, let's just do a smaller thing. And everyone can kind of do their own thing at different houses. But no, it was like, we we kind of off this side this year. Why won't everybody just get tested

and we could just go from there? I don't think that we like Thanksgiving as a people anyway. Yeah, I didn't even want to focus on Thanksgiving and Christmas

because I'm more so meant for New Year's Eve and New Year's. That's going to be wild. How does that affect things? Oh, you know what we'll be. Come on, come on, come on. You know what we know

for New Year's. Packs, you know, I act different. No, we ain't no'll be. Come on. Come on. Come on. You know what we know for New Year's. Pops? You know, we ain't no fucking pod. I think it falls on a pod day. I don't give a fuck what day it falls on. We won't be pod. Oh, I spoke to you about my New Year's, right? No, we spoke to each other.

We're a little. Yeah, niggas. Fuck you, Tosh. These niggas get different when the mic comes on. My memory is bad. Yeah, go like this. Oh, yeah. We did come up.

You guys going on a double date? No, it ain't a date. No, no. We're going to sex giving. You guys have fun with your friends. Sex giving. The opposite of quarantine. You guys going to be polyamorous?

Oh God, not that word again. Oh God. Not the polyurethane word. Yeah, I'm just saying with tourism being dead, with only certain cities being open, I'm assuming partying will be different

unless you're in Houston, Atlanta. Miami. I don't know how you're going about seeing people. The ball in Times Square, that shit's going to be

over. It's going to be weird. It's over for that. It's going to be weird. Anybody going to be out there? Hell no. Nah. They might still do it.

They're going to still do some type of little thing. Yeah, they'll drop the ball. And I can already just envision what I would be doing if I stayed in New York on New Year's Eve. It's miserable. Sitting in my house doing absolutely nothing. It's miserable. Yeah, that's not my vibe.

Yeah, that's not my vibe. I'm out of here. Y'all can have it. Pars, you going to Buffalo? Nah, I don't think so. Where are you going? Are you going to your balcony? I hadn't even thought about it, actually.

Yeah, I hadn't thought about it that far. Oh, no! No! Triggered! Actually, that's why y'all are leaving New York. That's why y'all are leaving New York. Ducking the smoke? The God is coming.

Is he going to crush the building? Y'all are trying to bring y'all chicks out. You got to hide them? Try to hide them in Katy, Texas. Now that it's safe over there. I should have put you somewhere where no one could find you. Brooklyn, isn't it? It's time.

Y'all going to have to find some weird town in Long Island. Ronkonkoma. That's where y'all going to have to hide y'all chicks. Where were we? Ronkonkoma Bay. Ronkonkoma. Valley Stream is too close. Oh, man.

Yeah, y'all gonna have to find New Ferry, New Jersey to hide. That sounds like kidnapping. That sounds like a hostage. Should have put you somewhere where nobody could find you. Oh, yeah. YouTube, funny music is playing. It's gonna be Audemars for everybody. Oh, yeah.

YouTube, funny music is playing. It's going to be all the malls for everybody. Every bartender is going to have an AP. Nobody is just James Harden. You guys, if you have not heard, let me explain it to you what's happening. Tricking. James fucking Harden. James tricking Harden. harden james tricking harden allegedly the beard has turned down let me pause this so y'all could really understand the energy that's on the way

he turned down 50 million a year. Yep. He should pay less. For two years. That's 100. That's 100. From Houston. And it seems he is trying to force his way to Brooklyn to play with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant and Karis LeVert.

Psych. You niggas LeVert. Psych. You niggas have had it. Yeah. They are clearing house. Hey, sorry, Dem Woody. It's over.

Yeah. Hey, sorry, Spencer. The beard is on the way. It's fucking over. Hey, that Dem Woody down here,

90 game winners for the Nets. That shit don't mean nothing. It means nothing. Go to Houston with that shit. So before we get into usage rates and will this work, and is there enough ball for the players to get into usage rates? Before we get into will this trio work and them being on the East now, if you have been a player, not a ball player, but in the streets,

if y'all thought that John Wall being healthy was a problem now, James Harden to Brooklyn? Oh, my God. I was losing girls just because the pandemic was happening. And now James is here. The new pandemic. Oh, my Lord. Hide the kids. Hide your Lord. Hide the kids.

Hide your wife. Hide the girls. Hide them all. James Harden at that little wine bar in the Barclays? Nah. Look what y'all got, James. Oh, my God. The wine bar.

What happens when Fab is front row? The energy will be different in Brooklyn. I'll never be able to get in the last lap now. Come on. Oh my goodness gracious, man. This is awesome. Turning down 50 million a year is insane. Yeah.

I got one year. I'm turning down 50 a year. Now I'm cool. What could James want to ring? No, he don't. He don't give a fuck. You got the year. Now I'm cool. Well, because James want a ring. He want a ring. No, he don't. He don't give a fuck about it. You want a ring if you turn down 50 million.

He's also got a couple dollars, by the way. He don't give a fuck about no ring, man. He just want to go where he want to go, man. He want to get out of Houston. He want to go somewhere else. Like, he don't care about a ring. He picked a team with two other dudes that probably want a ring two of the best

well both of them have rings you know why it's good to be nice at what you do why bitches money millions lavish trips wine bars

at the Barclays chauffeurs at the valet cracker barrel underrated I hate cracker barrel look at this cracker I hate crackers

don't really like barrels either no this is why it's nice to be nice at what you do. Because you don't care when another nice dude comes. Like, I would be threatened as a player knowing that James Harden is coming unless I'm Kevin Durant and Kyrie. Well, not really Kevin Durant because he's better than everybody. But Kyrie, another guard coming.

Kyrie don't give a fuck. I don't think Kyrie cares at all. They're still flat, James. You don't give a fuck. I don't think Kyrie cares at all. They're still flat, James. But if I wanted Joe Budden this story, please allow me to. Of course.

Here you go. Go ahead. Y'all ready? Y'all going to let me Joe Budden this shit? For sure. I'm going to do it. That's what you do. All right.

Kevin Durant sat right here on this couch. Or that chair. And we asked him quite. I mean, we called him. we called him, we called him, we called him, I'm sorry. He was on the couch. He was on the couch on the phone with us.

Don't fuck up my story, man. KD was on his couch on the phone with us. And we asked him about the Steve Nash hiring and he said, I have nothing to do with that shit, but I like Steve.

I support it. Right? I didn't believe it for a second. That he liked Steve? No, no, of course't believe that for a second. That he liked Steve? No, no, of course I believe that he liked Steve. But if you think that I think that this budding Brooklyn franchise didn't even consult

with arguably the best player in the world about the new coaching hire that's never coached before, I don't believe that. Cool, but it don't matter. You got to say that BPC. You get it all. But then they asked Kyrie about the Steve Nash hire,

and Kyrie didn't like it. Oh, really? I didn't see that. And that said to me, yeah, that's why I asked Kev about it. Okay. Because Kyrie didn't really, he wasn't really with it. He wasn't really encouraging words in that interview.

Got it. Cool, though. Put that to the side. Now here comes James. Do you think that Kyrie was involved at all in bringing this other superstar ball hog guard here?

I don't think he was. No, I don't think he was either. I don't think he was. No, I don't think he was either. I don't think that's anything that you can do about that, honestly. I don't care how good of a player you are, how big of a name you are, if a player like James Harden agent reaches out

to the organization and says, James wants to come here. It doesn't matter who's already there. They're going to make that happen. See, stop right there. And that's where I disagree with you if i'm kairi and i'm not and i'm not kairi but i'm joe buddening this story if if i'm kairi and i only went i went to brooklyn knowing my man was coming y'all swept me off my feet and i came but if i come my man is coming with me. So I am responsible for Kevin Durant being here. So now when Kevin Durant's man comes, too. They just think it's not a problem.

No, but I'm looking at that as the guy who is responsible for all of this, and I feel some type of way. I am. I'm early in this. I could be totally off, but I think we'll hear something this season that says, yeah, Kyrie might not have been in on that one. That's it. I don't think he's

too upset at it. It's not going to work. That's all I got. You don't think it'll work? No. Hell no. It's not going to work. Well, why do you say that? Two balls. Yeah, it's just it's not enough basketball for all three of those guys. Well, KD and Harden have played together and went to the finals together.

With Russ, for what it's worth. Yeah. Yeah, that's true, but did it work? Did they win? Nope, they went. Shit. They could have. They could have.

Had they kept that together, they probably would have got one. Yeah, I think the three of them could have got one. If Greek Free go to Miami, I don't give a fuck what they're doing in Brooklyn. I thought, where did I hear he was going? I heard there was somewhere else they were talking about shipping him. Warriors?

Knicks? Maybe that's what it was. I've only heard the Warriors and the Heat. Yesterday, the Heat talks kind of got a little louder. I see what you did there.

Let's get off sports now. We're not a sports podcast or a political podcast or a music podcast. Go out and vote. That Chris Paul trade was big, too, though. Yeah. I know you got them in the finals now, right?

Who's going to beat them four times, that team? Not in the finals. That's a great trade for Devin Booker, for sure. That is a good squad, though. I'm so glad Devin Booker likes white girls. Why? You think you'd take all your girls?

All of ours. He scored 70. What are y'all talking about? I've never scored 70, so. You got to get out there more. Girl, I was next. We looked that way. Dead.

No, don't worry about it. I think he's on a bench, actually. And I'm kidding around. Comedy style, comedy style, comedy style. Drew Holiday, Drew Holiday to the Bucks. That's big. Okay. I like that one, too.

They gave up a lot for that, but it's big. Whatever. Off of sports. On to what else is happening that we need to discuss. Oh, there have been a few months ago we submitted the deadline for sexual abuse cases against the Boy Scouts of America for you to foul. Because after whatever the date was, I don't have it right here in front of me right now, you would no longer be able to foul because of statute. Which is nuts. There have been, look at this,

the Boy Scouts of America will be facing at least 92,700 claims of sexual abuse as the TV goes off right when I was getting into my bag, in my reading bag. Boy Scouts infiltrating. 92,700 claims of sexual abuse as former Scouts submit foulings against the bankruptcy-bound organization, said one of the lead attorneys for the legal team representing the claimants.

The initial estimate of 82,000 claims was released on Sunday. The updated number of 92,000 came from bankruptcy court after the 5 p.m. deadline for submitting claims Monday. Attorney Andrew Van Slashtovich. Andrew Van Arsdale told CNN in an email.

Sick shit. Yeah, but we kind of, you know, we know. Boy Scout was just one of those organizations that we all kind of looked at with a side eye for years. What's really going on? I don't think it's the most heavily regulated conglomerate.

It's not. Yeah, they just have, you know. I mean, listen, I grew up in the Catholic Church, so who am I to speak? But Scouts seem a little nasty. Yeah. I was in Scouts, and there was no funny business in it. But I'm sure in other places there probably was. You know what I mean?

I just totally ignored my Catholicolic kappa joke i had catholic kappa and i would like to hear it no way are you kidding me fuck you um what else what else what else did you grow up in the church all black people grow up in the church there's a difference between growing up in the church and going to church yeah I grew up in church if your family was like really active I dropped out of church

as soon as I was able to have a say after I got my confirmation yeah I dropped out of the church anything that my mom attempted to put me in to better my life

I left Sunday school classes the Wednesday church Bible study classes my mom taught Sunday school to drop out Wednesday church Bible study classes. My mom taught Sunday school. To drop out of the choir is sick. That's some real nuthead shit. I dropped out of piano classes.

Anything mom put me in, I left. So I guess no. Okay. But she tried. All right. Good enough. I led the choir for a little bit. You were alto?

You and Maul got to get back for the reunion. You were in a baritone at six. I wasn't six leading the choir. I was like... You definitely had a beard then. 12? 12? No, not 12.

13, 14? You were baritone? No, I was a tenor, I think. A tenor? Okay. You got two tenors right here? My voice didn't get deep until Angelus. Right here in this room?

Right in front of us? Cigarette. Who knew? Come on, Maul. Let's hit a harmony on these whites take us to church um no we're not getting into this just yet what else what else uh we did the boy scouts uh mardone uh moderna moderna right is that how you say it? Moderna. Moderna. Moderna. Moderna. Moderna. Moderna.

Moderna says, and I wouldn't expect them to say anything else. We got the real shit? Yeah. Moderna says they now have a 96% success rate. I think it was 94, but whatever. Close enough. Either way, 94, 96. They say they're somewhere around there

in terms of a success rate for the virus that they've been coming up with. I'm just telling that to y'all because it might be pertinent information. I'm not taking none of that shit. I will wait and see. I'm not going to be first in line,

but that being said, I know people in the medical profession and if i get sound advice from them that say that you should do this i would definitely consider it i'm not doing shit no it takes years for a vaccine to you ain't testing on me you ain't putting your little beta medicine developed like this is too quick this is like and when i went and took my covid test the young lady uh told me that whatever practice rounds of the virus they was coming up with was making arms and legs fall off and other deterioration of human flesh happening. And they're still testing.

I was like, OK, just swap me. I'll let you on a couple of years. I'm going to head home. Which is why I said I would. And eat bananas. People I know that work in the medical profession. That'll do it. Get my potassium up.

Bananas will get rid of this thing. Yeah, no, no vaccine for me. I'm cool. Stay away from red meat. What else in newsy stuff? Oh, Amazon announces Amazon Pharmacy, which means that starting today, they will be delivering to your door prescription medicine.

Starting in 45 states. And they're doing this with the pill pack infrastructure that they purchased for $725 million. And what a steal for what this is about to produce. I feel like we were trying to make Amazon less of a monopoly of our country. Now they're doing it. They're going to keep going. Monopoly is the white cool way to say colonize, right? Yeah.

Sure. Yeah. More or less. They do mean it, right? They're cousins? Yeah. Or is it the same? They're at the family reunions.

All right. For sure. All right. Got it. It's a debate on who belongs to who, but yeah. This is sick, and they're going to crush. Yeah. They're going to crush this.

Yeah. To get prescription drugs delivered to my door? Yeah, this is going to go bad. Yeah. A third of the country purchases from Amazon every day. Yeah. I think at some point there will be regulation on Amazon, Facebook, et cetera, sooner than later. Well.

In fact. I don't know if you guys had anything else here, but did you guys watch today, yesterday, of the Senate speaking with Jack from Twitter and Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook just about this past election and kind of the overall year of 2020 and redeveloping, remember the number of the bill? 203 or some shit. Whatever. About how they influenced the election, some of the censoring they did,

why they did it, and how we are going to change how the internet influences our lives. It started at maybe 10 a.m. and when we were recording at 3, it was still going. Okay. Jack was in his house with his long beard going, fam, I don't know. I'm sorry.

I don't know. Jack looked great. In a point that has nothing to do with anything important, just looking at these two gentlemen on TV, Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey, Jack looked cool like Twitter was and Mark looked like Facebook. Not to say that Facebook looks whack, but he just looked very corporate. He looked very. Well, Mark looked like I have been through this mad. He sat there and answered things much easier than Jack did because he's been asked these questions for the past three years. much easier than Jack did because he's been asked these questions

for the past three years. This is yet another situation that puts me right at that crossroads, that fork in the road, not knowing which way to go. I'm always on the side of the creators. I was rooting for Mark and Jack. Like, yeah, fuck them.

We ain't giving you no information. Get out of here. Stop asking me about my shit. But that's the same thing Spotify said to me. So it's really the same type of fight here. No, it's not the same fight. Because this is a little different when you're controlling the data of every single user and influencing the entire country in a negative way to some degree.

So you want me to give my information to you so you can do the same thing? No. Because that is what I think is going to happen. I don't trust the government at all. I don't think that's what their end goal is. I could be wrong. I will say, even through the bullshit of the Republican part of the Senate saying,

hey, why did you censor Donald Trump and not all these Democrats? And they were like, well, they weren't saying lies, and this guy was. I don't know what you want from me. There was some good happening on the government side here of saying, you literally cannot sit here and control our citizens' algorithms to sway their opinion on an election. Yeah.

So, yeah, I see what you're saying on the creator side, but no, this is a very dangerous game that is out of the hands of Mark and Jack. Like, it's gone too far. The danger of social media to me is the data collection and the algorithms, like, handpicking what we see. Yeah. That's not cool.

I want to just see what my people are saying. And I can't say that was either of these two gentlemen's uh goal when creating these sites it's just become that look at jack jack up there with the nose ring the black the he you know he got the beard butter and look at the hair slicked back jack is cool man jack ain't got no pants on right now jack's hitting their butt ass from the waist down oh man do the zoomy zoom. I just feel like they approach these dudes every few years with a new way to try to get the information. Hey, there was a murder

that happened and the only way we can solve it is if we get in the phones and give us everything. Like, they... Hey, you're making too much money over there

so we got to regulate the internet. Like, every few years there's something where the government comes and just tries to be... impose their will against the free reign

of the internet or the... proposed free reign of the internet. Yeah, well that... And that's their argument, right? I never trust the government either. I think that at least on the surface, what they're doing here goes back again to the algorithms and the data collection,

which I do think does need to be regulated to some degree. These companies have all the... They're more powerful than the fucking government. So saying, oh man, I trust Mark Zuckerberg, that's not better than trusting the government. Are you crazy? And I do think it's funny that the government says... You'd rather trust Mark Zuckerberg than the government.

I want tech to win in the government battle. No. I do. Well, let me ask you why. The government has been governmenting for mad long and tech has been teching i don't know if you've been paying attention they're all related they're all in cahoots they're all friends like they're not fucking some innocent angel group of cool guys just doing some cool shit selling our personal life to for advertising right i'm not saying they're the guys yeah yeah but that's one small area of the tech

conversation when i say tech i'm talking about my vision of the world improving and when i think of the government i don't really see the role that they play in in how they have existed agree in the future do you you think both manipulate their user for their benefit, not the user's benefit? Yes. Okay. I just think there should be

a checks and balances on tech the same way there's checks and balances within our government system. That's all. Oh yeah, absolutely.

I agree with that. All right, I'm of the belief that there's not really any checks and balances with our government. That's my... We don't need to argue it.

Now y'all shit is coming. We don't need to argue it. That's my belief. It's all smoke and mirrors. They make you think that there are checks and balances. We've been on that side more. But the Doug Morris's of the government are behind the scenes just wingling wands and making shit happen. So we really don't have no say at all?

I don't think so. No, I don't think so at all. Welcome home, fellas. Come on. But why are you saying welcome home? I've always felt like that. Yeah, we've been on that side.

Come on. We just not on the side of Trump. That's it. It's mad simple. Y'all gonna respect the Dom one year. The government had mad times to say, hey. I respect the shit I say, brother.

Hey, let's share some of the 98% of... And actually, I'm not even talking about the government. I'm talking about the people that fucking own all the money. That's the end. That's the ones. If there's going to be a way for that to change, I think tech will have something to do with it.

Don't just be the ones with all the money and doing the same evil shit. Let me ask you this, Joe. Yeah, but tech, see? I'm Joe Budden something to do with it. They'll just be the ones in the limo and doing the same evil shit. Let me ask you this, Joe. Yeah, but tech, see? I'm Joe Buddington-ing this in my brain. None of this can make sense to the public. Sure. Yeah, I want tech to win

because I feel like tech will eventually be at the mercy of the people. I don't know why you think that. This guy never watched the Terminator series. Right. And Joe, let me ask you this. It's all right there. It's all right there. It's right there.

Arnold. Arnold was trying to show us all. They're right there. They're such kids. I did see the Terminator roar. But they're correct. Tech does not have us in their best interest. At all.

That's not what I just said. It sounded like it. I said tech would eventually be at the mercy of the people. I didn't say tech had us at their best interest. No, we'll be at the mercy of the people. Okay, even at the had us at their best interest. No, we'll be at the mercy of tech. Okay, even at the mercy of... I don't believe that. We will.

I don't believe that. I feel like for tech to really tech... Let the internet stop working right now. You're at the mercy of... Or let them start showing you what they want to show you, which they're doing already. Mm-hmm. They're not at the mercy of us.

Your phone die while you're in the middle of Manhattan, you go crazy. You lose your mind. And you talking money amounts. They're definitely at the mercy of us your phone die while you're in the middle of Manhattan you go crazy you lose your mind they're definitely at the mercy of us they can make this phone if there's not a human on the other end of it it has no value well yeah tech can't get better without humans

the government can stay exactly the same they can make the tech more appealing to humans and then change wait why do you think the government could stay exactly the same. They could make the tech more appealing to humans and then change the way they do. Wait, why do you think the government could without the people? Why do I think what? The government could exist without the people the same way tech couldn't. Why do I think the government could exist not without the people? The people are here.

But the government is going to government. They're not looking to change anything about the infrastructure. At the benefit of them because of the people. I'm saying the government don't listen to people at all. Y'all can go have your little vote. Vote.

This guy's sitting here. They don't give a fuck. Nothing is changing there. That's what I'm saying the difference is. That's not really true. Joe, they change the charger every phone.

They're not listening to us. They just moved the fucking like button for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Who are you talking about? Y'all are being very short-sighted with the charger. No, no, no. I think that's just? Y'all are being very short-sighted with the Charger. No, no, no.

I think that's just a small example of that we're going to follow them. They're not following us. They change everything without asking us and we adjust to it. They make us adjust to it. There's no more USBs and none of us are saying a word.

We're following them. I disagree with that. I don't think we're following them. I think they're following us and they're not telling you. Nah. Who's following them? I think they're following us and they're not telling you. Nah. Who following you? I disagree.

Somebody following you? They look at the people and make their decisions, but they're going to be the one dictating what happens. Yeah. And they can, like I said,

show you what you want to see, show you what they want you to see. And you were talking about a dollar amount I disagree with everything. That's not even... I disagree with everything that Rory's saying right now. terminated arnie gives it to us

what do you think exactly i'm saying well that part that you just said about tech is going to tech without the people then go fuck with the people the people mean nothing to that i disagree with that the whole premise of that i never once said that tech looks and says the people mean absolutely nothing that that words i never even alluded that. I think that tech is going to make their own decisions and the people will follow. Do I think they look at the people to make their decisions? Sure, but they're not going to sit there and go,

well, people love this. They don't necessarily do that in the best interest. Look at the doc we just watched on Netflix. They do what is going to make people buy and stay on their apps and devices longer. That is not in the interest of the people. That does nothing without the people. But if they can bend the people to do what-

My point is my point's good. No, I know. No, you don't. I think what Parks is trying to say is they manipulate us. Correct. And we don't recognize it. They find out our interests and manipulate from there. I'm not arguing any of what they're saying.

I'm saying I think that's short-sighted. Whenever this fight is decided in 10 years, 20 years, five years, whenever it is, I don't think it will be, oh, the people are all manipulated by the tech. No, I think that the people

will make a move that dictates where the tech is going. Okay, so back to something we said earlier. And if that happens, then I think that later in the marathon, tech could potentially have something to do with government changing things.

I think they already have. That's happened already. And that's what this whole thing was about. But what we spoke about a few weeks ago, because this is perfect, y'all still in favor of being able to vote from your phone? I am. Yeah. Fuck no. I am. Fuck no. I am.

Hell no. That's blatant. We don't have no say in officials at that point. Because if you're trusting your phone to count votes, and they're already saying that ballots and all this other shit was fucked up and all this- They're saying that because they lost. Mo, you do know that they use machines to count the votes. Yeah.

So what I'm saying is it's easier to manipulate these phones. No, it isn't. It's the same thing. What? It's literally the exact same thing. It's way easier to count the votes. Yeah. So what I'm saying is it's easier to manipulate these phones. It's the same thing. What? It's literally the exact same thing. It's way easier to manipulate a phone. People call your phone that you don't even

both systems can be manipulated. Yeah. Yeah. But it's easier for this phone though. You get phone calls every day from companies that you how the fuck do you have my number? Because we gave it to somebody

and they sold it. Because Facebook sold the shit. Right. So you think that somebody can't get to your phone? Yeah. So think that somebody can't get to your phone? Yeah. So you think somebody can't get to your phone and send a vote for you? I just get these all fucking day.

Yeah. No, don't ever vote for my phone. I still don't trust American Idol. Some real fuck shit. I still don't trust American Idol. And it has nothing to do with money. It has to do with power. Money is not a thing to these people.

Like, at all. They don't know how much money is in their bank account. It's a power thing. That's what it is to them. That's what that Senate meeting was about. It has nothing to do with money. Power over what? People. Yeah. Is it? Yeah, no. We never

disagreed. You're just good at arguing. We never disagreed that the government is not looking to the people and tech companies are not looking to the people. Of course, we are what moves that entire thing. But to say that we are making the decisions because we are the people they're looking at is very misguided. They're making the decision based off our behavior, and they're going to manipulate our behavior to the best ability they can so we can go with their decision. Correct. You're right.

If human behavior changes at all in the next however many years that could flip is what i'm saying that's it and i and i think at the rate that they have made our brains so dependent on this thing right here yeah it doesn't our behavior doesn't matter as much because our behavior is dictated of this thing don't have to be it don't have to be only in a in a in a fairytale land yeah sure not in a fairytale land that has existed here without phones and without buildings and without electric without technology we've existed here humans get to the fire yo get there what the hell yeah no we've existed here without anything before i'm aware humans adept everything that we need to live is on the earth

somewhere yes we would be fucked is on the earth somewhere. Yes, we would be fucked up if the Wi-Fi got cut off and there was no phones. Maybe we'd have to mail letters to talk to people again. Who knows? But we would survive.

We'd be fine. I'm not saying we wouldn't be fine. I'm just telling you where the world is clearly going when the Senate is sitting with two CEOs of big tech companies and saying, you guys are manipulating

how our election is going and we need to monitor everything that is happening within our citizens. Yeah, I'm mad Jeff Bezos wasn't up there. I want all the boss tech niggas to unify and union

like I've been telling all the boss rappers to do and let's see where it lands us in 20 years. Joe, because it's them, it's the Senate, it's Jack, it's Mark Zuckerberg,

and then it's Bezos. He's not showing up to that. Well, he also is... I know, he's the only thing. I'll buy all of that. He's also more of a retailer than a social media. This conversation, I believe,

is about social media. He's even scarier in my eyes. Yeah. Who, Bezos? Fuck my opinion when you have my data. You have literally every product that I buy at my house. Yeah. Listen, I'm no expert on any of the stuff we're talking about.

That's the biggest drugstore in the world. I think they both looked really good while they were up there. That's all. They were dressed well. They sell fucking pharmaceutical drugs. Like, yeah, no, this is, Bezos is laughing at, this is the kids.

Oh, you were with the Senate today? I'm at the Eyes Wide Shut party. I disagree with y'all. I think with some tactical planning, we could overtake all this shit, but that's my rebellious brain. Well, that's a separate conversation you're talking about. That's not the conversation we're having.

You got social media with their algorithms dividing us up as we fucking speak. Yeah. I put it this way. A big part of what they were talking about is how humans have gathered together and built things is off these two apps. They kept bringing up, all right, all the people that were gathering for the election, both sides, whether it be nonviolent or violent actions, started on a Facebook group. The way people are gathering together that don't know each other with the same ideologies are using y'all apps. And the reality is, is like-

The way you're talking about the revolution is being built on the apps that you're trying to revolutionize against. As divided as we are as a country, we're not really- No, because I'm not trying to revolutionize apps. The people need to revolutionize, and maybe the tech will be a part of that. Tech and the people are a team to me maybe the tech will be a part of that tech and the people are a team to me for now even though tech doesn't have us in their best interest y'all are right i was gonna say yeah you you have you got a way higher pedestal than it than it is

on a moral level and i don't know these gentlemen personally i'm just saying tech in general and their interest that nose ring is that not a trustworthy guy you're looking at right he has nice eyes i can't front him. And I like the plates that he set up in the back. I felt that. Look at Jack. No, it's a nice... I don't even see how Roy could make this argument as a white man. I'm confused by that.

Anytime he loses the debate, we just go right to, but you're white. Well, no, we're not. No, no, no, no, no. We're not debating because from what I understand about what you're saying we're kind of saying the same thing we just have a difference of how we see the outcome happening but i'm saying that about you being white because white history is horrible and y'all don't have our best interests but well historically but y'all are integral part of how this thing needs to run and we need each other i'm saying the same thing about techs and people yes tech is evil yes it's bad no they don't have

our best interest but we at some point we will need to find a way to get together to do better that's where I correlated that. I didn't mean to attack your whiteness like I've done before. I feel attacked. As a white man? In America? As a white man in America? No.

I'm sitting next to Roy. We're great friends. We're working together awesome. Yeah, whatever. I think that in 20 years that'll be tech and the people I don't know

alright whatever we're off this I hope so but I don't think so I think a lot of the tech world is much more quote unquote liberal

and I don't mean that in a political way I just mean as a ideology I think they're much more liberal and humanized than people that go into

politics and government. But when you get a little taste of that power, I don't know. I don't know, man. I think that tech companies, specifically social media companies, have done as much to divide people as religion or government ever has. I'm not mad at that take at all. What? I'm not mad at that take at all. Oh, y'all got to get the fuck out of here.

And I don't think it was necessarily their— What the fuck are y'all saying right no and i don't think it was necessarily their intention because you provided a platform for people to be humans and to divide each other like you literally set up where i can divide a country from my home i'm not saying jack and mark zuckerberg started that shit in their dorm rooms like yo this is gonna be the best way to divide the country, you just gave a platform for everyone from their phone to give their ideology and argue all fucking day. There are so many people who I love in the world or have loved in the world who now I don't like because I see them posting shit on Facebook or Instagram or whatever it may be.

We get along perfectly fine in person, but then when you get on the internet and they see something that's inflammatory and then they repost it and they agree with it and I completely disagree with that now we don't like each other social media is like a bad Thanksgiving dinner every day like holy shit I didn't even know you thought that exactly okay and it

divides the table every day you've allowed a platform for everyone to have an opinion and it be seen by everybody and a lot of times it's based on stuff that may or may not be true You've allowed a platform for everyone to have an opinion and it be seen by everybody. And a lot of times it's based on stuff that may or may not be true. Let me, specifically may not be true. Specifically may not be true.

So the history of America, basically, because I do believe that mad shit has been put here for nothing but division. Sure. Yeah. I agree with that. I didn't. The entire idea of a two party system. Yeah. I didn with that. The entire idea of a two-party system is worse. I didn't say it was worse than anything.

I said it was on par with all these other things that have divided people up. Yeah, that's all. We need unity. That's right. That's it. You and I, T, Y. Do you think it's in humans' DNA to do so?

And that's another conversation. We can move on. Wait, what did you say? Do you think it's in human DNA, like just? And that's another conversation We can move on Wait what do you mean? Do you think it's in human DNA Like just in our nature As human beings To unify? No

I know it's like really pessimistic But it's been on my mind all year Right Like is this what humans are here for? To unify? Yeah To a degree Yeah to a degree yeah to a degree

I think so I think you have to do more to be divided than it takes more energy to actually be divisive I think everyone has the same common goal

and I think that's what's so difficult now there is no one common goal I think we're going to get to heaven and God is going to thoroughly explain to each of us

what his plan was for the world oh and we're going to realize I didn't think of it that way just how much to each of us what his plan was for the world. Oh. And we're going to realize just how much... Just how much we fucked this shit up. We got fucked down here fucking it up.

Yeah. Alright. What else needs to be said? That was our tech expert segment. That ended with God. What do you guys think about Weekend doing Super Bowl? Just like they wanted it to. What do you think about Weekend doing Super Bowl?

Weekend is doing Super Bowl? Yeah, halftime show. I like it. I like it. It's a departure from the, not to say he's not a megastar, but. Weekend's a megastar. Yeah, he'sastar, but... Weekend's a megastar. Yeah, he's a megastar. Weekend's a megastar.

At least his music is. Weekend? I don't know. Hold on. Megastar? Megastar, I don't know. He's a star for sure. He's up there with Prince and Beyonce?

I'm not going to say Weekend is a megastar. That's all I'm saying. He's not a megastar. He's not a megastar. He's a star. I'm going to enjoy it because I like Weekend's music. When we say megastar, I'm thinking about on Super Bowl level. And yes,

Prince and Beyonce have did it, but so has Justin. He's on par with some of the others. He's not on par with Justin. Oh, Justin Timberlake. He's not on par with Justin Timberlake. The weekend is not on par with Justin Timberlake.

No, but he's not. Who else did the Super Bowl? Nelly. Rolling Stones. There's a few people that did the Super Bowl that just had a lot of slaps. Weekend has enough slaps to do the Super Bowl. Absolutely. That's all I'm saying.

I want to enjoy it. And he has the slaps for the Super Bowl. That's where I actually disagree. Really? Yeah. His music is a little bit darker, which is my vibe. Stunned by the lights is going to go off. Starboy hit every genre of human being in America.

It's a darker music in general than Beyonce or Lady Gaga or something. Shit, Michael was dark. Yeah, but not his hits. I mean, they were dark. Thriller is a dark fucking song, man. Sure, dark lyrically, but not the whole vibe of the music. It's just interesting. It's a slight turn from what they usually do.

I'd like to see that again. Mike said, and the kid is not my son. It's a dark song. Billie Jean is a dark song. I thought he was going to be honest. He hit that note. I can't even hear it. He was making sure you understood what he was saying. Yeah, Mike wanted nothing to do with Billie Jean's hood rat ass.

Or her children. Speaking of Prince, I saw his tour bus is up for auction if you want to get it. That's dope. Yeah, he might have to park that in front of the crib. How much? I didn't say. It's auction, so. Whoever outbids who. Where does it start? That's a good question. in front of the crib. How much? I didn't say. It's auctioned, so. Whoever, I'll bid to.

Where does it start? That's a good question. What am I going to do with Prince's tour bus? For the pod tour, what? We'll get back on the streets. Dancing it naked in St. Perverain.

I got mansion to do with Prince's tour bus. I might empty the bank account for that. Oh, man. That's awesome. When is that happening? I don't think there was a date on it.

I think you and James Harden could definitely go halfsies on that and change the city. There you go. My guy, James. Just park Prince's fucking tour bus in Times Square with the baddies. It's going to go so crazy when James is in Brooklyn. I might go to a game. I'm such a groupie. Yeah, you're nasty that now that's what's going to get you there.

Yeah, I know. Yo, I'm ending this podcast. Fair enough. God damn it. There's nothing else that I need to discuss, right? Let me just make sure, make sure, make sure, make sure, make sure. I'll be back in two days. Don't worry about it.

Yeah. Hopefully my antibiotics will work by then. Oh, Conway's on his live. It's always great when Conway gets drunk and plays music he's not supposed to play yeah it is always good he's getting his Joe bag

yeah I love it yes yo Joe invented a lot of shit I don't get credit for man your old wow shit old wow shit is you oh shit speaking of

before we get out of here I do want to address my good guy Dame Dash who shitted on me and Nori made us sound like I did a really inconsiderate people Dame shitted on you?

Yeah, he did. What happened? What did he say? In the nicest of ways. What did he say? He said that he gave me and Nori record deals, and then we got on and didn't pass the plug off when he asked for it.

That's what Dame said? Dame said he asked for the Spotify plug, and Joe said, yo, didn't see the text. Oh yeah, that's a Joe thing. Look how your friends go up to bat for you. That's a Joe thing. Stop, stop, man,

because I want to use this to highlight so much that's wrong in our community. First of all, I love Dame. Shout out to Dame. We all do. Love, love Dame. Second of all, Dame asked me that three days after we signed. And three months after we signed, you still didn't send him the plug? Four months after we signed, I was beefing. So, yeah, no.

Dame, you are welcome. You are welcome. And no, I did not bring you into that very toxic situation that is and was Spotify. Yeah. Yeah. You got to protect your people out there. And maybe I never had that conversation with him, but awesome. He's not there is the important part.

Right. Like I said, I said here a bunch of times, I'm not different than some other people out there in media world. I'm not bringing nobody that I have genuine love for into a fucked up situation. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. And I think how Dame runs his infrastructure, it wouldn't be a good partner. And I mean that in a good way. To bring Dame into

that type of situation. Yeah. Just because I know and respect and love how Dame does his business. It probably wouldn't work. Dame, we love you, man. We love you. I'll call you. We'll kick it about this.

Shout out to Dame. And that's what I got there, man. All right, I'm, I say, I say All these girls excited, ooh, you know they like it I'm so icy, so icy Girl, don't try to fight it All your friends invited I'm so icy

So icy Got a house around my neck and my wrist don't chill Ain't a given time, 250 in your grill All I do is talk shit You can even add a couple grand for my outfit You gotta act like you know me, in my hood they call me Jeezy the Snowman Jeezy the Snowman, I'm iced out, plus I got snowman Let it marinate, y'all niggas slow man

I used to get 19 for a beat Call me genuine, the same OG I'm the shit, bitch I need toilet paper And some air freshener, nigga Fuck I hate These niggas don't like me I'm with the Gucci man and I'm so icy All these girls excited

Ooh, you know they like it I'm so icy So icy I'm so icy, so icy Girl, don't try to fight it All your friends invited I'm so icy, so icy She diggin' my feet, she like I'm the shit

Is it the chain on my neck or the watch in my wrist? Maybe the ice in my ear or the bracelet But she look like the type that can take a dick, young Gucci, man, don't kiss me, baby, you can kiss my chance, you gotta be a dime piece, just to look at the rocks in my time piece, I come through on a drop top jack, a old school Chevy with the antique tag, my pocket so heavy that I can't walk steady Niggas coppin' ice, we done it already

Gotta go grill, but it's not from Eddie I ride big Shevins cause a nigga ain't petty I'm icy, some motherfuckers snowed up Little kids wanna be like Gucci when they grow up Me, Jeezy, and Boo We ain't hate pussy, nigga, go and do what you do Cause we icy, so icing We icing, so icing

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I'm so icy I'm so icy Y'all should know what this is. Gucci Mane. Young Jeezy. So icy. Oh, man. That was awesome. Gucci plays that one. That's a classic.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess Gucci gets to play that one. And it's a one. That's a classic. Yeah. Yeah, I guess Gucci gets to play that one. And it's a point. That's a point. Jeezy got to pull out one of his joints to beat that. I mean, he could play his verse on it. Who was that that they played the same song in a round? That happened, though, right? No, it did happen.

Was that Brandy and Monica, the boys of mine? No. No, I think it wasn't them. It was somebody else. That did happen, though. Damn it. That's going to bother me. Joe and Erica, the Roots record?

Ha! Yes! There you go. Yes. Joe is stupid. All right. Well, I won't be playing a throwback from the Gucci and Jesus shit. Rory takes full advantage of his little YouTube premium account.

I do. I'm going to start. I think I'm going to start. I think I'm going to get my $10. This is not an ad. It's one of the best $10 I spent. YouTube pay up. Facts.

Matter of fact, yeah, I'm not going to do it until, you know what I mean? Then I'll get my $10 a month until I send something. Send it over, buddy. My bad. I'm just a consumer. This is Hales Come Through featuring Jonathan Singletary. Found this record

on the Chatty House. Some real dope artists on the Chatty House. That's pretty good. No, they really own it. This record is fire. Shady House That's what it is? No, they really own it Hey This record is fire I'm first Shady House A&R

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Mentally finding buried treasures in your crevices I can live up in your world I'm thinking I might take up residence You set the precedent I follow while you elevate You spark a J I'm on the way I'm trying to levitate But you Neither one of us got a thing to prove We both addicted to the truth like I'm addicted to you My love We only play games for the tantric stimulation We on the same team no tantrums Could be open to the universal, no rehearsal

Role reversals, only verses Spoke about the supernatural, kinda love you, kinda tough I'm loving us, don't give it up like this is us A kinda corny epic story, learning lessons Counting blessings, no regrets until the rest is future history That sound like this to me Swimming in your she, I guess this life is but a dream And it seems

All I can think about is you Baby there is no substitute Till the rest is future history That sound like this to me Swimming in your sheet I guess it's like it's but a dream in the seas All I think about is you Telling my heart just what to do

All I can think about is you Baby, there is no substitute S. Hales, if I'm pronouncing that wrong, I apologize. H-A-I-L-E-S, Come Through, featuring Jonathan Singletary. Love that record. She's super talented. Sounds great. Good record.

Good groove. Chatti House got some records on there. Gave me a little Snow vibes. Yeah, it was in that vein for sure Don't disrespect the queen Nah just the vibe It was a Snow vibe but don't say Snow's name in here And Drake you better fuck it How many candles do you have?

He don't run out of shit to send somebody Don't he? Hey here's our new OVO calendar we got Hey here's our candle The OVO advent calendar Hey here's our new OVO calendar we got. Hey, here's our candle. The OVO advent calendar? Hey, here's a Raptors jersey. Like, this nigga will send some shit to the woman I like.

God damn. That's hilarious. Play a joint from St. John album out this Friday. Wait, wait, wait, Mo. This isn't even out yet. How do you have it? Are you going to get in trouble? No. Got the clearance for this one. He always got the clearance.

I'm out. This is Pray For Me featuring Kanye West. And I can't get Slaughterhouse off Shady. That's crazy. Just when I thought you was a businessman. Now you a businessman. Pray for me only if you need Pray for me never all you need Pray for me when the summer breaks

Pray for me that I never bleed Pray for me for the family Pray for me for the man I'm too close to be Pray for me put your hand on me Pray for me and my enemies Them niggas know they'll never approach me Them niggas know I got it, got it, look at me closely Cut from a different cloth, from a different upholstery Born from a different mind, when you see me, you toast me

My life now, it's highlight now Just blame my mama this if I die right now Before I close my eyes, before I lie down Never hang my hat, never hide my crown And the pills got in there, you're distracted Porsche on the hill, looking pretty attractive And they use our own to do it, you can't tell they attacked us I've been there for a while, so I studied their tactics And the meek tryna lower the maxes Trump in the house tryna lower the axes Real life movie, I don't know any actors I'm just tryna move forward and keep pulling me backwards

See this visceral reaction's not reciprocal Matter of fact, the way you acting is just typical Matter of fact, the force I'm giving you's centrifugal Matter of fact, if I just doubled up, I'd triple you Gotta come with something, something, something different, you Gotta come with something, something, something different dude Gotta come with something, something, something different dude Especially when yeah yeah yeah yeah in a different mood Especially when yeah yeah yeah yeah in a different mood They wanna ask Izzy where when my mind's on Israel I know that I'ma live to tell that we live through a living hell

Under the Remy spell, in a living cell This ain't living real This is a different deal, bruh This is a different feel, bruh Tell me how you feel, bruh Still trigger blow Even though I'm somebody niggas will figure out Even though they saying I'm really that nigga, no Even though they sayin' I'm really their nigga, no

Even though they sayin' it's stuffin' to think about I promise to think it out, oh Pray for me only if you need Pray for me, never all you need Pray for me when the summer breaks Pray for me that I never bleed Pray for me for the family Pray for me for the man I'm supposed to be Pray for me For the family Pray for me

For the man I'm supposed to be Pray for me Put your hand on me Pray for me And my enemy That's St. John Pray for me

If you don't send That fucking song To my phone What the fuck Is wrong with this guy I'll have it I'll send it I'm buying it

He sent us The whole album Where was I? In the group chat I don't read the damn group chat I was listening to shit all the way here What? This nigga sent the fire to my phone

I'm running around clubhouses Oh that's where I see you ain't checking in Oh man I don't go to And it's a shame now but this is where we at I don't go to, and it's a shame now, but this is where we at. I don't go to the music unless I like you and I know I'm going to the music. Other than that, but if I got that St. John in my phone, he always gives me that what Maul just played, like the hipster introspective vibe.

Those songs on the album, oh my God, I go crazy. Yeah, that album was dope. That was one of those. This Friday. All right, St. John Happy for you Congratulations My bad parts

It's all good I'm gonna play something Off this Salam Remy album Cause it's really good This is Really Real Black Dog Common Really Real out here

Yeah I'ma pray for me please I'm going outside I'll be on the corner where my father died I just hope my heart isn't compromised It's the only thing I own Mama, stay for me please until I'm grown I can't face the triumph of this world alone A world where they all love you and they make you known A world where they all of you and me can know Such a heavy cost to bear It's really real out there Yo, I can still hear my mother's voice Telling me what to do if I don't have another choice To never give the devil a reason he should rejoice

You better than the ignorant, he then so kill the noise I've been down on my luck till I was rail thin I slid way out of touch into a tailspin But I could tell you this much your reflexes come through in the clutch as long as you don't ever fail them Hey, you my mom's used to make beds and vacuum and pick up dirty towels and hotel bathrooms I used to hear my stomach rumbling in the classroom. I used to wish I could run up and pull a fast move Remember listening to Marley sing the belly full When you shivering where you stand they can tell you're cold Sometimes you might have the crease but just never fold

And if you sing for your supper never sell your soul It's really real out there Mama pay for me please I'm going outside I'll be on the corner where my father died I just want to be with you I just want to be with you I just want to be with you I just want to be with you I just want to be with you I just want to be with you I just corner when my father dies I just hope my arms isn't compromised

it's the only thing I owe mama stay for me please until I'm gone Mama stay for me please Until I burn And it's Salam Remy Really Real Out Here With Black Thought in Common Album's called Black on Purpose

It's mostly It's more R&B than it is hip hop Where the hell's your turnout off? It's really good Wow The project is really Really really dope Y'all would all like it

Salam Remy I mean Super legend What project? Let me go by It's called Black on Purpose Salam Remy Now YouTube premium it Really, really, really dope. Y'all would all like it. What's Salon Marini? I mean, super legend. What project? Let me go by it. It's called Black On Purpose. Not YouTube Premium It. Black Purpose?

Black On Purpose. Black On Purpose. It's a cover of Strange Fruit. Cover of Is It Because I'm Black. There's a lot of dope records on there. Oh, get the fuck out of here. Got Betty Wright doing Strange Fruits Crazy

There it is Oh 2Pac No no It's a whole album Yeah it came out last Friday Oh Black on Purpose Here it is Whoa

Yeah it's there Yeah it's crazy 17 joint No it's good It's really good Good project I appreciate that Then let's see

Let's see Let's see I don't remember how this podcast started Oh it's Black Black Black really good project I appreciate that then let's see let's see let's see I don't remember how this podcast started Oh black black Rory assigned to LVR in I'm not but uh I do like those guys and you're signed to and hope and you're signed there I'm not something there. Oh, why you didn't do that, Black?

I am so... Hey, come on. Cut it. Cut back up. Thank you. Oh, my stupid fingers, man. Come on. Get my EQ right before his voice comes in. Yeah, come on.

Turn the bass up in that bitch. Let me hit the roar. Yeah. Oh, a little flanger. Got it. Got to put it right there. Okay. Nah, I'm interested in like the R&B shit.

You know how like the rappers had the uh-huh, uh-huh, mic chat, let me, to get ready? Yeah. Like the R&B niggas gotta figure something out They do They got a couple though Me and Blackhead is okay before we get out of here New Japan Why am I waking up out of my sleep?

Hey, hey Alright man, this was a good episode Good episode, I want to thank my guys for showing up Promp and punctual, I appreciate y'all Savon, E-Rap, Alex, thank y'all Thank you to the fans for listening Thank you to our YouTube people Thank you to everybody listening on the DSPs

Thank you to Single Lady Single Lady Scorpio Season You got a $5 bill, put your hands up You got a $5 bill, put your hands up Hey Yo, we'll be back this weekend We'll be back on Saturday Bill, put your hands up. Hey. Yo, we'll be back this weekend.

We'll be back on Saturday. Stay safe. Stay blessed. Please respect the energy going on out there in the universe, in the world, and in hip-hop, and industry, and entertainment, period. Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there Until the next time, I bid you adieu, farewell

Hasta la vista, arrivederci, adios, so long, goodbye Deuces, I'll get up with you later, all that good stuff, man And that's all I got Rest in peace, Maudree, still Rest in peace, Moe 3 still Rest in peace, King Von still Rest in peace, Pop Smoke still Nipsey still Juice WRLD still

Triple X still Fred the Godson Fred the Godson still Still sending prayers out to Jeremiah Friend of the show, we love you, we fuck with you Hope you get better soon Shout out to everybody having a friendsgiving that didn't invite me, it's cool I was thinking about having one

Well, get the laryngitis out of your throat That's like two weeks away Yeah, I don't know how long laryngitis lasts I got the antibiotics For laryngitis? Yeah No you don't't look at your throat now look a little crazy i just started with antibiotics today come on

let him hit that let him hit that throat throw look look at her little look crazy the same neck every week yo man we getting out of here Y'all enjoy yourself That's what I've been telling her Same neck every week Yeah Rory get your shit off Now I'm down, down, I'm on the fence