The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 399 | "Niché"

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

Covid strikes again and affects  the schedule of the Verzuz battle that was set to take place this past weekend (December 12) between Ashanti and Keyshia Cole and Joe gives his theory on why it didn't happen (24:04). Joe also opens the conversation to acknowledge the 10 year anniversary of Diddy's album "Last Train to Paris" (35:18) and the guys congratulate Rowdy Rebel getting released from prison (46:38). Parks has something to celebrate as well with the release of his new album (1:12:17), a discussion on the Kith and Dipset collaboration which lead to a conversation about Kith over-saturating themselves with brand partnerships (1:37:36) and Akademiks gets confronted by Meek Mill and others upon joining the chatty house app (2:21:09) and much more! *Potential Spoiler alert* "Your Honor TV series" - (2:06:46) Sleeper Picks Joe | Blxst - “Got It All” (Ft. Dom Kennedy)  Rory | Unusual Demont - “Amber”  Mal | Digga D - “Daily Duppy” Parks | Parks & Passport Gift - “Home For Christmas” (Ft. Stove God Cooks)

Keep going now Yo, the internet is on our ass But we in a good groove, man You hear that? Nah, we straight It's all good What we doing? I see you're continuing your run of exclusives on the feets

The Y3's They're exclusive to us The Y3's, Swadey's The Swade boys, I don't have them It's cause they don't say Balenciaga. Couple inches on the sole. See that with the charcoal sweats. Get your height game up.

I see what you do. What you about now? 5'10"? You 5'10 now? Wear those when she wears heels? No. He trying to meet her in those. Trying to make out eye to eye. And the 5'10 Yo. He trying to meter a nose. Nigga trying to pull up.

Trying to make out eye to eye. In the 5'10 wide threes. All right. They just look like that. You talking about I wouldn't wear shit unless it got Balenciaga on it. I have worn these like for the year. I haven't worn anything else. Balenciaga's though.

No, not because I'm trying to be fancy. Oh, now you go Tom Ford on them too. A little Dior sometimes. Tom Ford, Dior, Balenci. Pretty much anything in Saks Fifth. You know you go Balenci on them. It's a light day. A light day with the Balenci's on their feet.

That means you just running errands. That's a target fit. Yeah, throw the Balenci's on when you got to go get some toilet tissue and shit like that. What am I wearing for New Year's Eve? Oh, you know you're going to kill him. Tom Ford down to the sock. That's what you watch filled with rocks. Definitely one of those fits where it's like pajamas and outside.

I know your style. What y'all giving him? That's a good question. Probably the same outfit I've been wearing for the past six months. I don't even know what I'm doing for New Year's. I don't even know what I'm wearing. I'll probably be home, so. Pajamas.

This. Yeah. What you doing for New Year's. I don't know what I'm wearing. I'll probably be home, so... Pajamas. This. Yeah. What you doing for New Year's? Out of here. I tell you. You got to set up. I don't know what... No way.

I don't know what... Hey, I was just about to tell y'all that the competition is heating up. As far as what? For your heart. Who's going to bounce

on this dick for New Year's? Oh, man. It is getting intense. Yo, you got some sickness competition going on. Oh, man. Things are accelerating. Oh, my God. I think we've got it down to four.

These fast harlots. Oh, my God. That's some funny shit. Wow. Mic check Mic check Mic check One two one two Greatest podcast in the world

You know what I'm here to do Keep shit tried and true Deliver the Tough critiques for the culture Were you just rhyming? Like halfway through that? You know when this beat come on You gotta talk over it

You know what I mean? We doing this one. Where you from, Moan? I'm from uptown. We doing this one from uptown. Where at, though? I'm wrong. No, like, no projects claimed you?

Ew. I've never lived in a project. I never lived in a project. I don't care. Projects can't claim you. It don't matter. They still got to claim you. I've never lived in it.

I've never lived in Salem Court. I still claim that one. In the right time, the right setting. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. You always have to have a project card. Wait a minute! I'm a photographer's dream. Yeah, baby.

I'm cream as my chain swing. Mac 11 for the things that the days bring. I'm after Jeddah, debt and money. Yeah, I chase cream. Petting leather like I'm Puffy in my sailing. I rock jewels like my niggas in the 18 I'm out of space, can't you see I am an alien? My wrist A-less, all of my words ageless Bezel it up like a billboard out in Vegas

You can't be serious, baby, you know I'm on top five But you see it to the max, no more I'm in the pro tie, oh boy to the day ones, first and last time listeners out there. I'm ahead of his time. Well, this album's ahead of his time. This album still is better than albums. It really is. What are we going to get into, though? It's that dirty money.

Let this rock out for a little bit. Ride with me. Supposed to be getting snow in New York. New York is closed down. You niggas can't go to Del Frisco's. Can't go to catch, but guess what? Jersey's open, bitch. It only be you there.

Ah-ha. Ah-ha. Hey, I googled mad New York steak houses. Called them all. Guess what? No answer. That's where I'm at now. I got to start differentiating the differences between New Jersey and New York.

Because there's too many out-of-towners that's getting us blended up. The angels are flying so high Singing to you He's the one you love And he's the one you trust Time is running out There's nothing left to do When they're calling you And the angels call out So hard to breathe, they say that we call love

Ain't nothing worse than the hurt we receive from love Let's take it back to the Rory era. Y'all know what Rory was doing outside when this was driving. Rory was getting crazy, crazy to this. I just can't, I just can't be loving you no more. To this one in particular. Rory was outside getting crazy. What?

I was in Griffin going nuts. I just can't be loving you no more. Oh, no, this is green. I love you more than I love myself. With a heart that's bleeding so late. So many lonely sleepless nights. I'm going through hell because you love me. I try when you talk to me, And still I'm giving it my all

I try When you talk to me but still I say I love you I'm ashamed you can see it in my eyes My mom always told me to respect the woman But what I'm about to do when her parents do not try So many tears I cry But all for nothing I'm afraid to say

See this is what I mean. If this was that record, we should have named the record last week. If this was the record you had as a new artist, you had a Drake feature on it, and you was trying to pop, you're not just throwing this on SoundCloud. I don't believe it. I do not believe that. You would have a feature with Drake as an unsigned artist? If I did.

You would not have a feature with Drake if you were unsigned. And if you do, you're signed now. Get Drake on the record. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, check. You know the fucking vibes. No, no, no, no, no, no. They keep telling me not to curse in the first 90 seconds or two

minutes of the podcast or whatever the stat is. I think it's five. I passed. No, all none of this is possible without my guys let's get one thing clear. Huh? Huh? Fuck all that normal introduction stuff, man. I feel that.

Okay. That's how you feel about it? Give him the Grammy speech. Yeah, nah. Niggas is here, man. I ain't going on seven years almost, huh? Yeah. Let's see. Stop and reflect.

Talk your talk. SoundCloud listenership, what up? What happened, Murray? I want to step on you. I said one of those pods. I'm just in a good mood. Cool. I'm just in a good mood. I'm with you. SoundCloud listenership, what up? What I have in my ear? I want to step on you. I said one of those pods. I'm just in a good mood. Cool. I'm just in a good mood.

SoundCloud listenership, what's going on? Apple listenership, what's going on? YouTube viewership, what's going on? Google. Pardon me. Google listenership, what's going on? Yahoo. Everywhere except for the places that we are purposely not putting this shit.

What's going on? Salute to y'all Hope everybody's good Sending beams of love and light everyone's way Offering nothing but love and grace Okay That's how I'm here That's how I'm giving it up

Welcome to episode 398 399 Uh oh Uh oh Milestone-ish Saturday's a day It's giving milestone I didn't realize

Another 200 Damn Look at that Unlike didn't realize. Another 200 in the can. Look at that. Unlike day in the office, another 200 in. Yeah. Back to work. Super regular. Back to work. Welcome to 399, episode 399 of the Joe Budden Podcast.

He is I and I am him. Your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored or lowly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Brother Maul is here. Brother Parks is here. Brother R of my nearest and dearest. Brother Maul is here. Brother Parks is here. Brother Rory is here. E-Rab the God is here. Erickson.

Not Erickson. Fucking what's your name? Savon is here. Corey is here. Alex the Great is here. Young Baze, chilling. Everybody is here. Baze Lee is here.

Before we go any further, powered by, sponsored by, enabled by, empowered by, spoiled by Cash App, the greatest app in the world. Garrett, what's going on? You know the vibes as well, gentlemen. And for our 400th episode, Joe will be Cash Apping a young woman $400 live on air. I like that. That's marketing. Maybe 400 women, $400. Yeah, okay.

You know what this moment reminds me of right here? Or a dollar to 400 women. $400. Yeah, okay. You know what this moment reminds me of right here? Or a dollar to 400 women. What moment? This moment right here. Whatever module. Rory is speaking for me. Speaking for your money. Whatever module.

You ever go out to eat with a young lady, pay for a beautiful meal. She's kind, so she offers to leave the tip but she leave a tip there like you wouldn't have left yeah she put 20 on the 500 rory i am so down with cash apping women i've only been trying to cash out people people in need for well over a year only to be blocked by fucking greedy stingy corporations but if i were to do that rory it wouldn't be this measly 400 that you speak of please don't speak for me i'm big joseph big trick vibes out here i'm paying bills not 400 i like it well 400 is a bill no i'm paying rent high rent high rent if your rent is 400 you're not getting this dick what are you talking about what are you talking

about male standards set some male standards i just seen cardi gift uh offset a lamborghini this dick. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Male standards. Set some boundaries for yourself. I just seen Cardi gift Offset a Lamborghini and you're asking us to settle. Black Kings is back. And we're going to honor that man today. We should. Offset. And Cardi for setting the standard of spoiling her Black King after fooling you all and telling you guys that she's

leaving and she's unhappy and it's not because of cheating and then coming back, she tricked us all. Salute to that man and congratulations. Round of applause to fucking King Offset. Queen Cardi, god damn it. Ann snuck a video of her cleaning the crib. Sorry, WAP. Sometimes you gotta clean.

Yeah, he put that one to bed, huh? Hey, that one didn't get talked about enough. I said, yeah, right? Got that ring without cleaning, huh? It's like you sweeping up the living room right now. That bathroom was spotless, spick and span. Lying in the songs. That's great when you live with one of the hottest rappers

and you could just film some shit. Film them lying in their songs? Hell yeah. Queen of the Bad Mothers. She in there dropping shit, breaking shit. That's right. King offset Queen Cardi, man.

Here for them. Gentlemen, how's everybody doing? How was your weekend? How was your week? How's your mental health? Good. Quiet, quiet.

It was a little disappointing. How's your text inbox? What was disappointing? How's the DMs? Oh, I haven't been in there in a while. Got it, got it. Understood.

When was the last time a woman slept over your house? It's been a while. Okay. You don't miss it? Yes, you do. You don't like to snuggle in the morning? Have you slept at a woman's house recently? Not recently, but yeah.

I was never into that. I was always into that. Recently is subjective, right? Yeah. Not yesterday. No. Not recently. No. Not recently. No.

What do you do to fight the loneliness? Count this money. Come on, man. Look a shot for Big Pop in heaven. Hold on. Let me turn this on. Count this money. Yeah, I'll take what we owe.

Parks, Rory, what's going on? Do you have a lot of cash in the house? Chill. Chill. Lock it to the BLM. Look at Vlad. Look at Vlad. So where... parks rory what's going on you have a lot of cash in the house or the bag bed room are the firearms in your home registered no i ain't gonna just seem like vlad kind of leaned into that shit a little more. Oh, yeah. When he was watching the cast shit that he re-uploaded. Yeah. Master behavior. Vlad is sick.

How many people exactly did you... A 150 is a cut, right? How many people exactly did you give a buck 52 when you were in prison? Then he re-uploaded that scene on my YouTube homepage shit. Sue Surf tells Vlad he is a cop. He's leaning into this, right? Oh, 100%. Vlad understands the internet.

Cash tried to get out of it, too. He's like, a few. What is a few? Yeah, yeah. More than four? And he puts on this little fucking, the voice. The Vladdy voice. Yeah. The crazy shit is I heard he's not even in the room with them. It's puts on this little fucking voice. The Vladdy voice. Yeah.

The crazy shit is I heard he's not even in the room with them. It's a laptop that they talking to. What? Yeah. Wait. I heard the same thing. I'm dead serious. Always or just during quarantine?

That is a lie. That has to be a lie. Really? That's hilarious. You fucking imbeciles are sitting down talking to a laptop? And telling them all your nefarious deeds yeah nefarious is a very funny word i don't even know what it means but i agree it might have been accurate i don't know let me stop i don't want to judge anybody that has sat down with vlad but with vlad's laptop that's unfortunate that's unfortunate to hear yeah i mean whoa whoa whoa

did vlad invent zoom inhaled a little bit of my spit there buddy you okay over there good keep that mask on all right don't don't endanger us yo parks brought to my attention and i was irresponsible with my platform last week and that totally was not my intention so before i start let me make very clear that i do know that covet is a real thing uh my family has been hit by people that I love have suffered and transitioned from it, and I had it as well. So if I was irresponsible in my messaging last week, I apologize.

What did you say? I don't know, but I don't know. We were discussing if people were going to take the vaccines, and we made a few jokey jokes about it, and we weren't serious, but the people that think everything that should ever be said is serious when it's about a serious topic got very upset

that we were being irresponsible with our platform. To them, I say, fuck you, and if you want to get the vaccine, please get it. And if you don't, that's your business.

Oh, yeah. All right, I'm not, that's Rory Farrell, 28 Journal Square. I echo those same sentiments, Rory. If you want to go to 28 Journal Square, have a blast. I will those same sentiments, Rory. If you want to go to 28 Journal Square, have a blast. I will not be there. Wear a mask when you're there.

Everybody's good? Everybody's feeling good? Feeling alright? Just trying to keep my head and prostate above water, man. Has everybody kept their pulse on the culture this week? Ready to dive in and discuss? There's a lot of weird shit going on. I was around the pulse. Really?

Oh, yeah. Not letting you lead in. When you lead in, we get morbid. No, no, no. Nothing like that. No morbid shit. Oh, okay. No.

Let's start with something a bit more jovial. She can only play the song one time. She can only play the record one time. If you think she has one record. Yeah, more. That's not what I said. I'm not doing this with you. I love Keisha.

That's not what I said. Then sound like it. I'm just saying everybody. Then sound like it. Everybody going heaven sent. That's one record she can play. Sent from heaven. Yeah, you know what's going on.

Love that record. Classic. Classic record. Come outside to hear it. Me? No, her. Oh. No, don't do that.

Don't do that. Don't do that. It's a great tune. no her oh don't do that don't do that it's a great tune come out do that come out and join us don't do that don't paint that narrative all right so listen you're not taking covid seriously to those of you to those of you who are unaware right millions millions of music lovers across the country had their pre-parties and their drinks and their hors d'oeuvres set up they had their trusted covid circle group there girlies got dressed up oh my god there was outfits yeah i'd never seen people prep for verses like this one yeah like promoting the the production that was happening the entire day yeah hadn't seen that yet this one. Yeah. Like promoting the production that was happening the entire day. Yeah. Hadn't seen that yet. This one looked like it would be

one for the ages. The ladies were ready. And me. I was about to say that. I was tingling. Yeah. Whenever the ladies are ready, we're ready right behind them. Exactly. I was ready to dig through those dark memories of exes who have done me wrong.

When you felt like you should have cheated. I should have. Oh, man. When me and Rory get that. When we get hurt together? That Stockton Hornet set going. When y'all get hurt together? Oh.

Oh, when we on the engine preserve. Oh, my God. Look out. You should have seen me and Joe at Sugar Daddy's when we were both hurt. Me and Rory we were both hurt. Me and Rory have been both hurt together, like out trying to cope together. And in places that do not make you feel better. Just numb you for like a few hours. I'll be honest.

Those type of things between Rory and I have shot him up on my friend list. Yeah. Like I never intended for him to be this hot. He surpassed all expectations. Yeah, hot. He surpassed all expectations. Yeah, man. He surpassed all friend expectations. Listen, happy birthday to my youngest, Lex. I love you.

Listen, when Lex was being born, Rory was on my phone. Yo, nah, tell me the hospital right now. I'm pulling up. Oh, he was in there. I was like, wow. Thanks, man. Okay. Come hang.

Maybe that's an Irish culture thing. I don't know. Like, you go to see your friend's kids be born. Your family members. That's a thing in my culture. I know Irish people. I felt really special, man. That was awesome.

Yeah, that's what friends are supposed to do. I didn't know that. Yeah. I don't think I was allowed in the hospital when Trey was born. Well, you weren't your baby mother's friend. Yeah, that's the thing. Y'all wasn't friends. No, no, don't do that.

I was there. I was there the entire time, no matter what was going on with us. That's the last time I heard her say loving words to me when she was under that C-section drug. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as that was. That's the truth. I fucking hate you. We never spoke again.

We never spoke again. But that C-section shit, the truth come out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as that war. That's the truth. I fucking hate you. We never spoke again. We never spoke again. But that C-section shit, the truth come out. Yeah, yeah. I'm doing that last fight. I was like, is she awake? Can she talk? Her whole stomach is folded, flapped over. Give her another dose.

Joe is an asshole. But yeah, but the point is point is No I didn't know that But I was really happy That Rory was there with me That's good That's good Your friend should be there Cause for like the dude

That can be a real Boring experience You're not supposed to say that It's a Nerve It's the waiting game Yeah it's a nerve waiting game Like your nerves

You can be in there When you can't be in there I'm talking like I know The fucking kids as the guy you're just supposed to like be there in support of

of your queen and it's like they tag you in when they need you yeah but until then like they're doing all the tough shit

of mentally preparing waiting for the whatever meter to hit the right shit so they could they're doing everything physically pushing a human being out of their body and then that part like i got shits that i took that was really tough yeah yeah think about it yeah the nerve of my prostate to even have gripes

with me well listen i don't need to think about it because boy is god good both of my kids had some type of trouble coming out like i think with trey the umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck yeah that's common so had to go in there save my baby i love you uh and lex head got stuck is that the scientific uh verbiage what happened Yeah That's what the doc said Ew it's stuck No They tried to tiptoe around it Like me and Sin wasn't right Well she was going through it

Like we wasn't right there No I was right there I was right there Looking at their face It didn't feel great His head is stuck Do you want to see him

I'm not looking down there Get my baby out But then you can't yell it You know what I mean It was a tense moment I'm sure Yeah It's got to be Because you got to be like cool Push your baby out of here You can't yell it. You know what I mean? It was a tense moment. I'm sure. It's got to be cool.

Push your baby out of here. You can't tell a woman that who has to do the pushing. That's never pushed before. She's pushing harder than ever. And it's still not. You got to hold the push. It's a lot. The weird breathing noises.

It's a lot. I'm glad I'm a dude. You chicks think squirting is so amazing. How? It's piss. How do we get there? Well, let me ask Parks and Mall. Do you guys want to actually see your child be born?

Like, see it. No way. How about be right there? Yeah. Watch it come out of the vagina. I'll be there, but I'm not watching. Yeah, I do. I'm not looking at the heart of the matter.

It's a mixed bag for me. I don't know if I want to see that. Yeah, I would want to see that. For sure. It's your kid. That's your child. I get a weak stomach when I see people get stabbed. I don't know about a whole head coming out of a vagina.

Why do you keep watching people get stabbed? I'm always in the wrong place at the wrong time. Leave the bar. Leave the bar. That's a regular night at the Irish bar. You know how that goes. Over at the pub. Yeah, at the pub.

Yeah, no, I don't think it's for me. I'm not watching that. I'll do a little over-the-shoulder action. I got you. All day, though. Sure. Nah, yeah, I'm going to be right there. I don't know how we got on this, but Lex, I love you.

Cynthia, thank you for the greatest gift. Where we at? day sure no yeah i'm gonna be right there i don't know how we got on this but lex i love you cynthia thank you for the greatest gift uh where we at anything you can do for lex's birthday with with the little coveys going on no cake ice cream balloons and other kids other kids being my two little brothers and my little sister and oddly enough i mean i haven't spoken to his mom about this i don't think my kid likes ice cream. Is that weird? Did that sound weird? Well, I didn't as a kid, and that's because there was no sugar allowed in my household.

So my grandmother really used to think there was something wrong with me when she'd take me and all my cousins for ice cream, and I wouldn't get excited. And I'd be like, I guess the vanilla's fine. And she'd be like, I think there's something really wrong with this kid. And I won't say what she said because she's an old Irish woman, and it was a slur. So we're just going to continue with what she thought I was because I didn't want ice cream. One day I'm going to muster up the courage to come in here

and talk about the real co-parenting fights. That's a conversation. Other bitches that I'm sure a lot can relate to. I'm going to get in trouble with fucking that shit one real quick.

Go ahead, man. Jump in there. Pause. I think I saw on one of the blogs that Sten was like doing some diet shit so she took all the snacks

out the house. I pulled right off. My kid going to have some Oreos. Put some fucking Oreos in his cabinet. I pulled up with a very serious

Yo you took all the snacks Out the house For the two year old Yeah You think that's right My Lex is on keto too Nigga What you thought

You thought Lex Wasn't gonna get that keto diet See that's the problem With having the dads around Like the dads understand Yeah of course Like the dads fight for you How did we get on it We supposed to be Talking about this shit I mean how great is that When you're dating a chick With a kid the dads around. The dads understand. Yeah, of course. The dads fight for you.

How did we get on it? We're supposed to be talking about this shit. I mean, how great is that when you're dating a chick with a kid? The snack selection that you're just not privy to in other households.

It's like, oh my God. Like, oh, you got these? I ain't seen Dunkaroos in a minute. Fruit by the pool. What are you talking about? Oh, you got the confetti Dunkaroo? All right, come on.

Everyone all over America was planning on having a watch party for Keisha Cole versus Ashanti. Yeah, man. This was supposed to happen Saturday night,

and we didn't get the word that this was going to be postponed until a few hours before. Yeah. It was like an hour before. It was hard. It wasn't very much time um

and i get it the new date is the 9th january 9th which is a saturday a few weeks away but and i mean we are still going to watch this but man was i disappointed that it didn't happen uh ashanti announced that uh unfortunately she caught COVID so she was unable to do it. The internet had a little bit of fun with that and I'll be careful

about how much fun I have with it considering y'all think I'm so irresponsible. But yeah, the internet had a lot of fun. You gotta love the internet.

No, you don't. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. You don't have to. The internet has offered us more good than bad. Yeah, I was gonna say you have to enjoy

the good. That's debatable too but the good moments, boy, are they enjoyable. Yeah, it's a lot of funny stuff. It's just the two- The way they make me laugh for giving them my social

and credit card numbers. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's just, it's a really bad- Did you guys see the dog that ate at Edwil's this weekend? Oh, Jinx?

Yeah. That shit was fun. Jinx was almost out of here. Yeah. I know that feeling. I've been there. Yeah, I know that feeling. What are y'all talking about?

I almost killed a daisy once. There was a video of a girl holding a dog that got into her edible collection. How big was the dog, though? It was like a chihuahua. It was a little chihuahua. That'd be the problem. And that dog was faded. The little dogs can't smoke weed or eat weed.

No dog should eat weed. Hold on. No, Brooklyn was cool. He was a smoker. Those two summers where I was trying to drug you, I was testing on Brooklyn. Oh, okay. That's a good strategy, though. You both handled it really well.

And why was I trying to drug Maul for a summer? I have no idea. Allegedly. Yeah, because you shouldn't drug people. Yeah. We were at your house, and Maul was blowing weed that smelled a bit expensive. It definitely wasn't like the reg that he may have copped. He was blowing it in Baisley's direction, and she passed out in the car home, and I

was like, all right, she does that a lot. False sleeping car. She's a baby. Wait, me? Yes, this was you. Where? It was the premiere of Love and Hip Hop. Oh, at Joe's house.

Yeah. Okay. And then in the morning, she didn't wake up. I got a little nervous. And this was her dead about 12 hours later. I've been there, man.

Oh, you posted that? Yeah, this was like two years ago, though. My bad, my bad, babes. Yeah. I'll repost that for them. She was dead. Yeah.

And that was just a contact eye. Just dehydrated. Get a little Pedialyte icy Yeah It took a couple days Yeah What do you guys think Of this matchup being postponed?

It sucked Yeah I mean You know it's unfortunate Y'all being responsible Y'all being responsible This is what y'all told me to do Y'all told me to be responsible Oh boy

Ashanti used my move Anytime I don't want to do something I blame it on COVID But I don't know why y'all keep Like let's just have fun with it Why do y' responsible. Ashanti used my move. Anytime I don't want to do something, I blame it on COVID. But I don't know why y'all keep, like, let's just have fun with it. Why do y'all think Ashanti didn't want to do this? I mean, she may have went through

low-keys versus playlist. Saw some joints on there she forgot about. The cheat sheet. The cheat sheet. Yeah, man. Maybe she went through that and saw some joints.

Oh, I forgot she had that one. And I think she started to put her list together. And I love every single gyro feature she has. But after the 6-1, I don't know how it's going to hit. This is why I think. Hey, I can't speak for nobody else. This is why I think she stayed home. Hey, this sample has never lost.

I just want to tell you that part. Never. Yeah, I think this is why she stayed in the living room. I played that Ashanti shit right after that. What? Which one? Tell me. Well, if you remember, I was on Ashanti's side the first time she brought up.

Then I started doing some digging. I don't want your man. That's your record. Listen, Ashanti, And this is all Jokes We want to respect Black women We want to respect Women that have provided

So much Contributed so much We just having fun So I do want to make that clear Because a lot of y'all Are idiots Yes

And though I never Really plan on idiots Listening Somehow you do So these are These are just Continue to listen I don't give a fuck if the idiots listening it's okay

idiots you can listen please keep listening idiot stupid stupid keep listening stupid yo so

oh my god Alright So we want to be responsible On this But Word on the streets And my house The only street

Yeah Word in my mind Is that Keisha Ashanti didn't want that smoke Man And I did pick Keisha Though I knew it would have been an uphill battle for her.

I picked her. I didn't think it was going to be very easy, and I wouldn't have been shocked if she lost it all. Let me be clear. This is going 11-9 either way for me. Yeah, but listen, in my life, I roll with the underdog type of guy. I learned that about myself.

It's a pattern. Yeah, I'm an underdog person. Me too. Especially when I think they have a real shot. So that's what happened here. Maul, I know 20 songs, 20 different reasons why she wouldn't want to come out the house. But did y'all catch the Jennifer Lopez shade? I did not.

No. No. I didn't know Jennifer Lopez. Of course you didn't. Of course you didn't. I didn't catch it. She was throwing the shade or receiving the shade? None of this is substantiated.

But Ashanti announced that she was sick and couldn't couldn't do the uh battle and magically an hour later j-lo tweeted a bunch of crying laughing emojis and then deleted it said he thought j-lo was throwing shade? They thought that was the shade? No, J-Lo was throwing shade. Okay. What about it? I'm just asking if you saw it. No, I didn't see it. Well, there has been a... Probably doesn't matter to a room full of men,

but I thought it was important to point out. There's been rumblings of some tension between Ashanti and J-Lo. And I can't figure out why, but I'm not a girl and I'm not in women's business. But I can't figure out why. But I'll be in girl and I'm not in women's business. But I can't figure out why. But I'll be in music's business. And, you know,

she sang some backgrounds and maybe told the world when she didn't need to tell the world. If Irv and them sold this song, because we had the rights to sell the shit,

and the biggest, one of the biggest movie stars and pop stars at the time wants the song, I'm giving them the song. Yeah. Oh, of course. What's the issue? No, no. Especially'm giving them the song. Yeah. Oh, of course.

What's the issue? No, no. Especially when you have a bunch of hits. Like, you're not short on hits. If Ashanti was ever short on hits, I can understand it. Then you could understand it. She got hits for days. At that time, I don't know.

So why are we beefing about this one? We're talking about two people who make these, understand these, and are millionaires. Yeah, but we don't know if there's a real shade of beef do we is it just speculation at this point well and i don't want to stay on this part too long and i want to get to the actual important but we've seen little petty back and forth we've seen ashanti when she was doing the b2k tour every time she performed this record it was her version she said a little variation of yo yo, this is my shit.

I don't care who sang it or whatever it was. Okay. Okay. I wasn't hip. Some validity to it. Yeah. But I mean, listen,

I'm going to watch this whenever it happens. Laughing at someone getting COVID is fucking sick. That's fucked up. I don't think Jennifer Lopez was laughing at that. I think it was

Back in the house, huh? That's all back in the house. Sometimes you got to sit down. So then them two went on live. I didn't watch it, but they both look beautiful. They're both going to do great. This is going to be great whenever it happens. I mean, I'm not even going to make all the jokes.

I'm not. But I will read the internet when they do it. Of course. I'm excited. I might be on Instagram for the comments on that one. Yeah. Yeah, the IG comments be way better. Yeah. Yeah, the IG comments would be way better. Yeah.

Yeah, it's funny because the comments on Instagram are great, but the experience on Apple is great. Yeah. Well, you make it a multimedia experience and hold the phone and watch TV. Oh, then you really feel like a loser, but yeah, you can do that. And then it'd be delayed,

so you don't even know what you're laughing at. Also, the very next day they announced E-40 versus Too Short Battle of the Bay. Woo! Legends of the Bay.

Not just Legends of the Bay. Legends period. They're legends. Legends period. Yeah. I'm going to stay out of Bay's business. That was my take.

Yeah. These two gentlemen are with it. That's a good matchup, though. Both very long careers. Both got a lot of hit records. Man. That's the matchup.

I probably would pick E-40. If I had to pick. If I was on the spot right now. He's probably had bigger records as far as singles go. I think more recent big records That they're gonna Probably perform A little bit better But I love 2 Short

I love them both That's gonna be a tight Well I will be getting Hyphy Yeah I'm gonna take Short in that I love E40 I'm gonna take Short Okay Short got a lot of records

With a lot of With Rockefeller Well you got a few joints with Jay Yeah but I knew that's what I'll take Short Which way you was going Does a week ago make it more?

Yes. He should play it. It should. It should. Absolutely. We're not from the Bay, and I'm sure anyone in the Bay would be like, no. Joe is staying out of Bay's business. I'm not picking a winner.

I do not have the range. I have not heard these. If you're talking about two people with discogs that are like- E-40 has like a trillion albums. That's what I'm- Yeah, it's true. Them both. We talk about Wayne

having a bunch of albums or just a long discography. Nah. So I'm staying out of this. I have no idea who will win. I just like this for the fact that I think a lot of the, you know,

the younger generation that really don't know these two will get a chance to hear their catalog. That's why I like this. And they got a lot of records that were hits on their own and have been resampled

and repurposed as hits recently. Short has been sampled a lot. Yeah. But no, this should be a fun, fun night. I love,

I love the Bay. Because the Bay party's better than most, most cities, period. Absolutely. So, I think this is going to be one of those battles where,

like the, was that the Beanie Man, Beanie Man battle? Mm-hmm. Where like, maybe you didn't know how great it was going to be one of those battles where, like, was that the Beanie Man battle? Where, like, maybe you didn't know how great it was going to be until it happened. Yeah. Like, because these two, man, besides being two of the nicest guys in the world, they're friends in this chemistry. So, like, I think that'll be on display, and that's what I want to see.

Their sound, too, the way Beanie and Bounty, just the sounds are similar. So if it flows well, they don't even need to stop the music in this one. Fast. Like it would all blend well. But I would love to hear

stories from them too. Oh, hell yeah. Oh man. Yeah, it'd be great. Yeah, I'm here for it. And that is Saturday. Yes. Is it really?

Yes. It's lit. It's lit. This month is flying. Yeah. If anyone has some real ecstasy, not Molly, that's the night to pop.

Real ex. Real ex ting. Real shroom tings. All right. So that's that on that. Yeah. That on that. What else we got?

What else we got? Say, Vaughn, the YouTube people say that you're slacking off on On their time stamps And they're upset about it Do you care? No right? Not enough to change it right? He don't give a fuck Listen so we want to Congratulate and celebrate

Dirty Money Puff On the 10 year anniversary Of the last Last Train to Paris album And for me this feels first of all y'all have made me

scared to death to come in here and like give my opinion about things I come in here and I say Hov is great y'all call me a dick rider

I come in here and I try to be critical of Cudi y'all say I'm a hater accurate can't please can I be both yeah

everyone's both I'm a hating dick rider yeah just be a human. Be yourself. That's all. I made Only Human, one of the greatest hip-hop songs ever made.

That's how you sleep at night. Just be yourself. That nigga overlooking my shit. Shut up. Playing Only Human against Rich Boy would be hilarious. But this album is great. I'm done playing that game, too,

because niggas got my greatness fucked up. But Last Train to Paris, this is weird. It's weird for me to talk about this album because I've talked about this album all decade. Yeah. This is not a new thing for me. Sonically, this is just a really good album which leans into my theory that I get killed for saying again

because I work with Puff and y'all kill me, but I've been felt like this about how he constructs albums. It don't matter who you give him. Day 26, Danity Kane,

Craig Mack, Total, 112, name him. I'm going to say his own name. Biggie had a couple good ones too. Yeah,

but Biggie would have had a few good ones anywhere. This honestly- It's what he did with the people that you didn't expect. Yeah, but Biggie would have had a few good ones anywhere. It's what he did with the people that you didn't expect. Listen, Craig Mack was the first one. He broke Bad Boy. I want to be clear. So we talk about Biggie and his greatness,

but nigga did this with Craig Mack. And but Biggie even said in interviews. That's the thing for niggas that were trying to be marketed as ugly. And I'm not saying that because I viewed it like that. But Craig Mack did that. Biggie did that. That's the brilliance. Total did that a little bit. That's the brilliance of Puff, though.

Like, it wasn't about, you don't have to. He can make you look good. He could polish you up. He know how to make you. It's about the talent. It's about the originality. It's about the sound. And if you had that, Puff would handle everything else.

He knows how to make you look like a star. And that's his power. He can make you look good. I told y'all, I've said on this podcast before, I think my 112 Def Jam story, right, with Puff. Have I? No. I don't think so.

Really? No. Well, I'll give a short cliff note version of it. And boy, was this a revelation for me in the music business at the time. Because I was such an R&B fan, and I was wondering, where's 112, what's up with 112?

They had whatever contract shit they was going through, and they ended up on Def Jam. Which at the time was a really big signing. I almost want to say I'm on that album. I think I'm on their Def Jam album. Or they took me off for Ludacris. Totally understandable. Looking back, you can see why they did that?

Yo, Mo, Mo, you only jump in to... Why do you do that? Yo, this decade, I want flowers from you. You specifically. Nobody else. I got you. Because you was with me. Don't do that.

I got you. I don't like how you do that. I got some good daisies for you. Don't worry about it. I got you. Daisies. Anyway, this was a huge signing in Def Jam at the time. Mo probably suggested to take you off that shit.

Like, yo, this guy Luda's kind of hot in the South right now. I don't do that. I don't really fight with Mo because behind the scenes in my career, he has given me jewels that have helped me. So when he publicly bashes me, I kind of just take it. It's all for jokes, man. It hurts. It hurts.

That's friendship, though. It hurts. It fucking hurts. Now that I look up the track list me, I kind of just take it. But like, it hurts. That's friendship, though. It hurts. It fucking hurts. Now that I look up the track list, and I'm kind of mad. They wanted to put you on Hot and Wet? Hot and Wet. I smoked Hot and Wet. Better than Ludacris.

Does YouTube have you ready? Shock, I'm joking. Luda, I'm joking. Yeah, no, Hot and Wet. That album. They took me off of Ludacris. But there were big marketing meetings. This was a big signing at the time.

I don't know. They must have spent a lot of money. And maybe Kev and Lior were having some trouble with how 112 was presented and how they were to be styled and marketed. They were missing Puff. But I didn't know that. And man, Puff came in there one day and came in that marketing meeting and this is when the artist that wasn't allowed

in those meetings would walk by and eavesdrop and he was just telling them fam y'all thought y'all could get this group, and this group came with this sauce. That's my sauce. Right, right. Yes, you're having trouble. Yes, you need me. He was going ham in there. But it's facts, though.

He tore them niggas apart in there. It's a fact. It's a fact. And that's, again, that's puff superpower. You knew a puff act when you saw the video. You could tell. You could tell. It's like when you see that's, again, that's Puff's superpower. You knew a Puff act when you saw the video. You could tell. You could tell. It's like when you see a Hype Williams video.

You know a Hype Williams video when you see it. Just like you know a Puff artist when you see it. But that's even with the talent that Big already had and that Mase already had. If you heard how they was rapping before they got with Puff, Puff changed it. He just brought them just a little bit more commercial where it wasn't corny. It still felt like them, but it was commercial. And a larger audience would like it. And the people that want to hear Everyday Struggle

and Machine Gun Funk, all that, can listen to that. But here's Juicy. Mace said it best. I was murdered. P. Diddy made me pretty. Yeah. And that's what it is. Puff has that thing, and it sounds really simple.

But he has the ability to know what's going to work and what's not going to work with unproven acts. And I know it sounds super simple, like, I know what would work and what wouldn't work. That's the hardest attribute for any last person on Earth to have. Fam, these two young, amazing, talented songwriters, not many people knew of, and he made what I'm gonna call a cult classic

it is a cult classic looking at it now it this might have been the first playlist no you don't think so i think khaled was putting albums out before 2010 that were more playlisty yeah he was okay i respect that respect that. And this one, I know we use the sequence word a lot on this podcast, a little too much. This did have a sound and a sequence to it that felt like an album. Yeah. Oh, no, it was definitely an album,

but when you look at the, it's just so many, he pulled from so many different artists. Well, yeah, I mean, he had to. He featured right. He featured right. Yeah. We dick riding right now, but. I've always said had two amazing- He featured right. He featured right. Yeah. Yeah, because- We dick riding right now, but- I've always said this album is way ahead of his time. Well, he had the Puff production sauce and then two amazing songwriters. And all right, I love this verse you just wrote.

Let's just put Usher on that verse. Right. It was a really simple formula that- Artists that he has a relationship with. Yeah. Let me turn up the corny meter real quick and really get corny on these hoes. shit with yeah let me turn up the corny meter real quick and really get corny on these hoes um so puff came on the chatty house and was discussing the inspiration behind this album last train to paris so far and and and why he was i wouldn't say that cutty 808s and heartbreaks

wait hold on let's give rory some time to shit on someone he was so humble to meet at his new year's eve party And let's make sure Puff hears that. So, what'd you say? He got it from So Far Gone? What were you saying? Actually, I'll go back more. He got it from 808's

which came from Cudi. Yeah, yeah. It all comes from Cudi. This album does come from Cudi. Okay. Y'all are wrong, but okay. Trying not to shit on Cudi. Y'all, I'm y'all.

No, no, no. Y'all. The fucking whites. I'm joking. I'm joking. The whites. The whites attribute everything black to Cudi. I was joking.

He was on How to Make it in America. That was our show. Listen. Legendary. Oh, and he was just saying the inspiration from this album and what he was trying to get it to sound like. And boy, am I about to sound corny here. But as a songwriter, I appreciated this. He said he wanted to make it sound like the world was about to end and this was the last train.

Like this was your last ride. Okay. Like so it was driving music, not driving like car, but adrenaline. It was that when he said that, that this was supposed to be like the last train before death or whatever the fuck he said. Sonically, this album made a lot more sense to me. Then he talked about being inspired by Grace Jones, like just being in a party and seeing Grace Jones. And if you've ever seen puff party then he normally is that the party vibe man so for a nigga like that to walk in the party look over and see grace jones

party in the right way and get inspired as far as lifestyle and just catch a vibe right yeah no it was dope it was dope to hear i appreciate moments like that on the chatty house yeah that makes it i had another one of those actually a quick quick quick little fun fact that i learned so apparently the the talented gentleman that produced ushers caught up was a huge fan of the song pump it up when it came out it was like his shit okay so when So when he made Caught Up, he took the drums and did what he did. Oh, dope.

Dope. I was blown away by that. I was amazed by that little tidbit. No, that's really cool. Maybe you should check his royalties. Yeah, I went back and listened. Yeah, right.

Yeah, right. Good luck. Hey, the niggas that produced on that album might have had a hard time getting some royalties. So listen, man. I just. Hey, the niggas that produced on that album might have had a hard time getting some royalties. So listen, man, I just want to celebrate Puff, congratulate Puff on making an amazing, timeless, classic, another timeless, classic project, man.

This guy did this with the band. Like, the band sold records. Yeah. That speaks to the power of Puff. And it speaks to the power of longevity, that you could start in the 90s making all the music and the soundscape for that era, and then be just as relevant in 2010 with what the sound is and pushing the sound forward.

Like, how many people have done that? And then in Puff's Khaled interview, which was real inspiring if you check it out, he said Khaled asked him when he made his first million. He said he was 19 and he was in the studio supposed to be setting shit up for a Teddy Riley session and Teddy Riley didn't show up. So the second he didn't show up is when he made his first million dollars. Oh, Khaled. No, Puff. Oh, Puff. Puff Puff. Oh, Puff. Puff, he was interning, and Teddy Riley didn't show up.

Oh, yeah, I do remember that story. He told that story before. Yeah. Just interesting to see people look back at their story in hindsight and talk about it all of these years later. And see how far they've come. Especially when you get into how many times that Puff could and would have been jammed up throughout this.

And I'm not going to make this morbid, but congratulations to Puff on an amazing album, man. He's been through some shit. Yeah, 100%. And made it through. 100%. Now, all right. I was really happy when this slid across my feed. Yeah.

Can't come home. We finally got some good news. I like how they kept this under wraps. I like how we didn't know he was out until he was out. It was rumblings of it. It was some rumblings. It's been a lot of rumblings.

But when it was official, it wasn't as big as a rumble. Yeah. Listen, there were rumblings, but even when I first saw the report that Rowdy was released from jail, prison, wherever he was, I don't know where he was. I wasn't sure to believe it then even. Well, with both of them, they've been making claims the past two years.

Bob will be out tomorrow. Well, that's when they was hopeful that he would make it past the parole board. Yes. And then that whatever happened happened. But just to see the video right hold up man let me cut this off for a minute just to see the video and boy am i glad that they did bring cameras and film this so i would be able to feel this energy to see to see video of him walking out of jail with all his niggas there, with the Rolls Royce there, with some money.

I don't know where it came from, but it's there, and I'm happy it's there. He's smiling. As somebody that has, listen, as somebody that has stepped out after a 10-hour bid, it's an exhilarating feeling is what I'm saying. Fresh air, your loved ones. Yeah, do an interview.

Yeah, bring that camera over here. Yeah, I'm really. Fresh air, your loved ones. Yeah, do an interview. Yeah, bring that camera over here. Yeah, I'm really happy for him, man. I am so glad that he's home. I can't wait to see what he does. I can't wait to hear what he does. And it's good for New York. It's good for the New York music scene. Absolutely.

Even better just for our young black New York Kings, man. I'm real happy to see it. And he looks good. Yeah, it's real happy to see him home. I just hope, you know, just stay safe, stay out the way, stay into the music, because this kid is a star. I said that before he got locked up. He's definitely a star.

And right now, you know, the time is open for him. It's open for Bobby when he comes home. They have a slot that a lot of people are waiting for both of them. So stay in the studio. Stay safe. Enjoy your time. Enjoy your family. Have fun.

Take your time, too. Yeah, take your time. I don't want him to feel like he got to rush. Yeah. Because I know he got stories now. He got shit to talk about. He got a lot of shit to talk about. I'm sure a lot of shit he want to address.

And it's a whole lot of people waiting for him. So here's my question. Here's my question to you, gentlemen. And I think I'm going to lean into this a little more for 2021, where I present these situations that put y'all in the artist seat. OK, so y'all are rowdy. You come home. Do you put music out or do you load the clip up

And wait for Bobby Oh no You definitely gotta load the clip up And wait I think you can do both He has to put out music Immediately I mean

Not immediately Sometimes your silence Is valuable But he's been silent for How many years now? That's the point. Yeah, no. Like, he could go just, he don't have to deal, well, let me, that's your answer.

Let me get the rest of the room. Parks, Rory? Kind of to my point before, I think it's better just for him as a human to just relax for a second. Get acclimated to being back home. Get back to what's important, family shit. Don't rush and feel like you gotta make up

for the last six years people are still waiting for you it's not like you have to do an immediate thing and again advice that no one asked for but we're doing a podcast

yeah I think he could chill for a second Parks yeah I think that he should put out music he doesn't have to rush though

certainly not through the holiday season and shit like that I wouldn't go directly from jail to the studio no no no enjoy your family I would have to rush though. Certainly not through the holiday season and shit like that. I wouldn't go directly from jail to the studio. No, no, no. Enjoy your family. I would have to imagine

that he's been writing and creating at least mentally a lot. So I'm sure that he's ready to lay some shit down. Get the rust off. Yeah. Get back acclimated

to being home. Like Maul said, see your family, see your kids if you have some. I just don't think that I don't think that he should have to deal with the pressure immediately that comes with having to find a joint that's going to work because you've been so highly anticipated.

I'm also curious what his situation is. Is he signed anywhere or anything like that, or is he a free agent? Because that changes things too. I don't know. I would assume that he's still signed somewhere he's too talented um i mean i know bobby was with epic i don't know if rowdy was in that deal me either um yeah that i don't know well let's let's let's look that up and we'll come back to that rowdy it says epic records sorry he was he with the Bobby thing. Yeah, if I wasn't mistaken, right, because Epic was real excited about him.

As they should be. Right before he went in. As they should be. I was in the studio. Why was I in the studio with Rowdy? What was we working on? We were at Puff's daddy's house working on something,

and they were in the other room. That was daddy's house? Yeah. Rest in peace. Oh, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was Daddy's house? Yeah. Rest in peace to Daddy's house. Oh, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was. Yes, it was. Rest in peace to Daddy's house.

That was almost like a little bit before he got locked up. They was in there having a blast. I could see how it happens, man, when you're young and you get all your friends together, you're moving and you're shaking. I could see how it happens, man. Happy Daddy's home. Happy Daddy's home. Happy Daddy's home, man's home Happy daddy's home man

That's what I got Yeah and hopefully Bobby will be Right behind him soon Yeah hopefully so Yeah chill out Chill out and go load the clip up There's value in the silence Is what mine and Rory's point was

You don't have to rush to do shit When you've been gone for X amount of years And I think it's just better for your mental But if you have some shit ready, I don't think you necessarily... I'm sure he got shit. I'm sure he got songs that he did before he had to go away that

he can just start putting out. That we haven't heard yet. He's a star, man. He's a star. He has his own sound, his own style. Yeah, man. Yeah, he is. He's a star. He's a star. He has his own sound, his own style. Yeah, man, I'm just happy he's home. And again, man, just prayers to him. And I just wanted to stay safe and stay out of the way, stay away from the bullshit,

because this kid is definitely a talent. And Bobby, we hope to see you soon, man. Hope you join him soon. The funny shit is, and this is why this is beautiful, without Bobby being seen in this clip at all, you could feel Bobby being happy that he's home. Boy, is that amazing. Yeah, I'm happy for them. I'm happy for Brooklyn. Well, it's because of Bobby that he's getting out at this time. Yeah. So I'm sure Bobby's happy. Stand up. Stand up shit. One of the moves that as a culture, We don't highlight enough

We highlight a lot of bullshit And a lot of sucker shit We don't highlight the real shit That Bobby did enough Well I was just saying Saying to somebody the other day We gonna That type of stuff

Is received better In aftermath Like we gonna We gonna feel the effects of that When he comes home Yeah when we get them both on camera When they both are home Sit down

You gonna feel That And I'm anxious to see The energy when he comes home. Yeah, when we get them both on camera. When they both are home, you're going to feel that. And I'm anxious to see the energy when that happens versus some of the other stuff that has happened with people coming home and how they got home. That's what I'll say about that.

Real quick, to circle back to that, I hate circle back, but to circle back to that last Train to Paris conversation, I wanted to ask y'all, and be clear,

we are doing a year end wrap up, first time that we as a podcast will do a year end wrap up. And we'll delve into this a little more there. And I think that's coming out New Year's Eve. But what are some of your, what are your, huh?

That's what we're shooting for. Yeah. What are some of your favorite like niche albums, that novelty act kind of albums that dropped this decade? And what I mean is like Last Train to Paris, maybe Run the Jewels, the first one. I think that's more group now. Prime. Watch the Throne. Prime.

Watch the Throne is probably my favorite. But there's been a lot of them. The Chris Brown Young Thug. Was Watch the Throne this decade? Yeah, it was this decade. Well, the decade before. We're in a new decade. Well, okay.

Technically, the new decade is not until January. I know we all hyped that up last New Year's Eve, but we were all wrong and it starts 2021. That's true. Really?

Yes. I thought 2020 would start. Me too. Me too. Oh, because I guess 10 to 20 would be You didn't carry the two Sorry That's cool

Listen I can't read math You thought I was Paying attention to math class Carry the two next time Don't worry about it Okay yeah that does make sense then Also we can redo The decade combos

Cool Woo Great Yes list season Who's ready for list season I hate list season I hate T season I hate tis here

tis the list tis here I would have watched thrown high in that list Prime I would have the first here we go I still have my

that's what I'm looking for top 10 rap albums of the decade list from last year December 23rd 2019 I would have how many do you still stand by I'm looking now

this is what I have and I don't stand by all this but I will say it. I have, and this is in order. My Beetle, Dark Twisted Fantasy, Good Kid, Mad City, Nothing Was the Same, My Crazy Life, Take Care, Pimple Butterfly, Teflon Dawn, Damn, 444, Dirty Sprite 2. What was that? Your albums of the decade? It's a nice list.

That was my albums, my top 10 rap albums of the decade. And then R&B I had, which I don't stand by anymore. Seat at the Table, Channel Orange, Control, Anti, House of Balloons, I consider that an album.

Kaleidoscope Dreams, Lemonade, Malibu, Nostalgia Ultra, consider it an album. Black Messiah. It's not a bad hip hop album list. Yeah.

One of my favorite novelty projects that came out this decade i have to say would be that uh that chris brown ep that very little people knew about it was called x files but then i think his album that he dropped afterward was called x foul something so x so x but the ep dropped before that x foul-Files, I think 2013. Whenever I talked about that in 2015, circling back to my opinion back then, I wanted us to check on Chris Brown and cover him with love and grace.

Because listening to the music, it sounded like he was going to hurt himself. Boy, is that my favorite kind of music. When you think somebody's going to hurt themselves? Oh, that's my shit. When you can feel that. Like, I like when artists go through pain. I'm about to say everything that contradicts why I didn't listen to Tory Lanez's album.

I like when artists are going through real life shit and then they put it into music and you could tell and you could feel it. And that's what I got from this. I'm going to let this rock for a minute. Hold up. And I think this is the exact song I highlighted. YouTubers, this is Love to Remember off that Chris Brown X-Files project. I just want to get to the hook and then we can cut it off and continue talking. Oh, we all know a dirty Diana.

What? Mic check, mic check, mic check. I'm just down memory lane. Don't worry about it. Let's go. I wish it was better. I don't want you to leave. Let's go. I'm taking this bottle. Contemplating a pill overdose. I'm dick riding right now, but y'all got the point.

I think R&B wise, which we've maybe talked about this on this pod. In 2011, that like three month span where we got Nostalgia Ultra, House of Balloons, That three-month span where we got Nostalgia Ultra, House of Balloons, and the Cocaine 80s Pursuit EP within a three-month span was nuts and kind of felt, to me, made the R&B decade from there of what shit was going to sound like. Cocaine 80s would definitely be on the novelty list. Yeah. Oh, just all three or four of their EPs was crazy. And speaking of Cocaine 80s cocaine, boy would I love a podcast

by No I.D. and James Fondler. Just them two. When did the Frank Ocean Nostalgia? Yeah, when did that come out? 2011.

I'm telling you, within a three or four month span we got Nostalgia, Ultra, House of Balloons and the Pursuit EP. Yeah. And Molly was crazy at that time.

That was some great music that dropped in that time. That was some great music that was dropped in that era. That was great everything. I was broke as can be but take me back. Oh, listen, man. The broke times,

it was all right, man. Those were the fun eras. I had way more fun when he was broke. When you got to make it work. Word. Yeah, everybody, anybody with money

can tell you that, though. I had more fun when I was broke. Yeah, but it always sounded like a lie when I was broke, I'll be honest. Oh, yeah, because you're so stressed about other broke. Yeah, but it always sounded like a lie when I was broke, I'll be honest. Oh yeah,

because you're so stressed about other shit. Boy, the shit we put big through over that old more money, more problems title. Like, nigga, shut up. You're a liar. See this unpaid bill?

This is a problem. Throwing things in our faces. Nah, he was right. But I like Wale, the album About Nothing. Love that album. Is I think a super underrated, niched album of the decade

that doesn't get talked about. The Tribe joint, I just like to see how hip hop ages well. I thought the Tribe album was really, really good. The Killer Mike album. But why are these niche albums? The Killer Mike album before. The Wale album you named was an album.

And the Tribe album was an album. But I think album about nothing was niche to a degree. I mean, if Watch the Throne was niche, then I can say the Tribe album was an album but I think album about nothing was niche to a degree I mean if Watch the Throne was niche then I can say the Tribe album how? you guys said

what's the definition of niche? I think novelty was the term but okay not that those two words might not be interchangeable to some degree

we're stupid so I just want everyone to make that clear I think we're gonna make our own everyone's screaming at their phone or computer we're going to make our own category. Just for everyone screaming at their phone or computer, we are dumb, we apologize.

The Killer Mike album that was produced by LP before Run the Jewels was also phenomenal. I don't know if that qualifies as niche, but that album was great. Scream Man,

can I see the definition of these words, please? That's just why I kept asking. Scream Man, look up Niche for Rory. Niche. What size of fly Guy got up? And where's Nick Jonas?

Got to be up there too. Fly Guy got to be up there. Oh, yeah. Fly Guy was what? 2010? Nah, later. Was it 11? Nah, it was like 14, 15.

Really? Yeah. Okay. I'm off. Niche. A comfortable or suitable position in life or employment. Huh? That's not it.

A specialized segment of the market for a particular kind of product or service. There we go. I thought like a specific type of group. Nietzsche. Nietzsche. Watch the Throne was not Nietzsche. Nietzsche. It was definitely not Nietzsche. That's French for Nike.

Don't worry about it. Why not by that definition? I mean, you think- A specialized segment, which it was, a special body of work. Of the market. I assume that to mean a small specific group. I don't think Jay-Z and Kanye West are just for a small specific group.

I think they're for a larger group. Well, I took small out. I don't listen to the colonizer's word. You mean the English language? Yes. Yes, Roy. That's exactly what I mean. Coming from the guy that-

The guy that literally pulls up Webster every day. You bring up the dictionary almost every argument. which? Yes. Yeah. Yes, Rory. That's exactly what I mean. So why do you have dictionary.com? Yeah, the guy that literally pulls up Webster every day. You bring up the dictionary almost every argument. Okay. And then I change the meaning of things.

A true poet. Ta-da. True Shakespeare he is. I do think we would need to find a definition for novelty or niche album. Yeah, whatever.

To flesh out this argument. Whatever, you get the fucking point. Well, in that case, Watcher's Throne can't be up there then. Watcher's Throne is definitely niche. You think so? It's not. I don't. To flesh out this argument. Whatever, you get the fuck out of it. Well, in that case, Watch the Throne can't be up there, then. Watch the Throne is definitely niche.

You think so? It's not. I don't think it's niche. Okay. Novelty, maybe. Whatever, I don't care. Novelty, the quality of being new, original, or unusual.

I can go with Watch the Throne being novelty. I'm stupid, then. Whatever. There wasn't nothing new, original, or unusual about that project. It was unusual in that

it was two superstars. Two huge acts making an album together. The sounds were a bit different for that time. They was putting like three different beats in one song. It was novelty-ish. We did right again. Jay did that before. Best of both worlds.

Challenge him and he made Rockapel. Go ahead, Rory. I don't acknowledge the person he did that with, so it doesn't exist in my conscious. You problematic pieces of shit. And also those albums could be novelty too tata killed all novelty of that album okay allegedly moving along moving along everyone um okay so tell me why all black people are supposed to be getting superpowers on decemberst. That's the question I asked. It's because the planets are planeting up there. Something's happening.

The universe is universing. Yeah, I believe, and I did a bunch of research, so take for what I said. Oh, here we go. Straight from a tweeter. Straight from a Twitter user. I think Venus and Jupiter are colliding, and it'll be a great light show. It says, apparently the galaxies are going to align perfectly, and the sun will emit an electromagnetic energy that will only affect those with melanin. I thought it was bullshit until I saw news stories of electromagnetic energy coming to Earth today. Okay.

Okay. So I should wear more sunscreen. Or less. Which is it? Sun launches explosion of electromagnetic energy towards Earth. Geomagnetic storm. Scream, man. How come when I'm right in the middle of reading something, you just click away?

No, I think it's the ads, pop-ups. You don't have premium? You don't have KMBC premium? Well, anyway, who cares about the story? We don't have to fact check. We're not journalists. On the 21st, Rory, Parks, you're not getting powers. Shut the fuck up.

Like, stop hating. Let me report a black story. Yeah, this is for the blacks. This is for us. I was trying to show you. For us, by us. How the whites are going to change us. No, this is not.

No. No, you got to stay home. Not first. Because on the whites website, how they're putting this out, they're saying it'll be a great conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn

and will form a Christmas star, which is very white, of the winter solstice. They didn't mention anything about melanin. Sounds about right. So you interrupted. Sounds about white.

So you interrupted something to hate. Yeah. So y'all going to take the galaxy from us? White ass up while we talk about Black King Topper.

We're talking about the white Jesus birthday. Rory, don't interrupt me again with your bullshit, okay? On December 21st, whatever superpower I have will be used on you. What the fuck?

Figure out what it is first. What the hell is wrong with this guy? Using your superpower to x-ray vision, that's kind of gross. Let's figure out what it is. Whatever it is, I'm using it on you. What the hell is wrong with this guy? Using your superpower. If it's x-ray vision, then that's kind of gross. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's figure out what it is.

Whatever it is, I'm using it on you. What do you think? I'm going to imagine my shit to be fucking, make it bigger. Like, what are you talking about? Why are you using your superpower? He's trying to pause my superpower. He's been interrupting our Black King segment for 10 minutes.

Shut the fuck up. I'm trying to carry on tradition of the whites. Now. Anytime you get some power. You want peace? Now. Look, they don't know how to act when black is king. Black is always king. Kanye said white Jesus is king. And look at him.

Now, Maul. Yes. Fellow black brother, I'm only talking to you, not them. Yes. What is your superpower going to be? And there's some of y'all white people out there that take my... Black on black crime. Some of y'all white people out there that take my... Black on black crime. Some of y'all white people out there that take

my white talk into offense. Why are we... Can we stop doing that? Can we stop addressing people that take offense and that's hurt and that's bothered by anything that we say, please?

Can we stop doing that? Especially when it's bullshit. Like, yeah, I don't... Let's stop addressing those people. Take your vaccines and your reverse racism. I was leading into a strong suck my dick.

Fuck that. I was leading into a strong suck my dick. If you offend and turn it vaccines and your reverse racism. It's okay. Fuck that. I was leading into a strong suck my dick. If you offended, turn it the fuck off, man. That's it. Simple. I'm not talking to people that's offended and hurt. Oh, it hurt me. Shut the fuck up.

You got your superpower already. Is your superpower going to be to remove offense? Brashness. No, man. I just can't. Ooh, no one can ever be offended again. Yeah. Don't be offended by something that you say about getting superpowers.

Like who's going to shut the fuck up? Moe, tell us what you want your superpower to be. I would love to be able to fly. Hmm. Or time travel. Fly or time travel. But you got the buddy pass already. Don't use up a superpower.

I'm on a companion ship. We're companions? Yeah. Yeah, I would like to fly with Tom Trapp. But if he can fly outside of the buddy pass, he can catch the game at the Barclays

and the game at the Golden State game. That's true. Can you bring someone up with you when you're flying? He's trying to do a real life NBA league pass type of thing.

Would you do a piggyback ride of sorts to have Shorty fly with you to the Golden State? Oh, yeah. It'll get a little boring up there by the time. You know he would. Yeah, let's do it.

You know he would text TA and say, yo, don't even take the team bus. I got you. Throwing TA on your back to fly? Look what Joe got me doing with my superpowers. Get on my back. Some tall-ass dude on malls.

Get on my back, Trevor. Trevor. I'll carry you. Why did Trevor make it weirder? That's his name. I don't know what I want my superpower to be. When I was younger, I thought I super power to be when I was younger teleport flight

when I was younger I thought I wanted it to be like the ability to read minds but then as I met more humans I don't want to know shit that's on you niggas minds y'all brains is twisted yeah

yeah I think God designed us that way for a reason I don't want to know too much it would be depressing so I don't know what I would want my super power to be but I'm really happy that I'm getting one

and they're not throw some shit at the wall man hmm I think Joe would like to be invisible I could definitely see that fucking creep I feel invisible now nobody sees me how come no one ever sees me I feel invisible around my own friends. Nope, nope, nope. Every relationship I've ever been in. I don't feel seen now. Funny you should say that, mom. And I'll tell you this, it didn't feel like a power.

I felt powerless. Exactly the opposite of power. But that invisible shit sounds good. Mind reading sounds good. Flying sounds good. I would want to shoot some type of fireballs, bullets, or why was i so impressed by fucking you can shoot bullets now you know i was i was talking to this girl in atlanta the other day on facetime and i thought it was like a romantic call until she decided to show me her Glock with a beam on it.

And then I was like, her gun is way better than anything in my house. I gotta re-up. This bitch is shooting shit out of me. Yeah, but then she continued to tell me how it's triangulated properly so that the bullet

hits where the dot ends and I live by myself so I dare a nigga to come in ends. I live by myself, so I did nigga to come in here. I was like, are you getting naked or not? You told her that? This nigga was on FaceTime with Columbiana. She was trying to show me she could protect me.

I like that. Anyway, so if you know a good gun connect out there, send it through hey dm us allegedly allegedly allegedly look at how you have to keep up in dating now oh man all right uh what was i saying superpowers super i don't know i don't know but i'm happy all black people are getting superpowers i thought this was a wild story when i first read it shit black people already got superpowers remember they thought this was a wild story when I first read it. Shit, black people already got superpowers. Remember they told us black people couldn't catch coronavirus?

Coronavirus! Yeah, they went from that to we catch it more than anybody. Look at the spectrum. First we can't get it, now we catch it more than anybody. What are we going to do? How creepy do you think Savon's superpowers are going to be? Huh? How creepy do you think Savon's superpowers are going to be?

Oh, super creepy. You know what Savon want to do. Unlimited breakaway sweats. Make the best playlist. Oh, my God. All different types of colorways. Unlimited breakaway sweats. They're going to give Savon

a December 21st. Every Yeezy in the closet. Yo, do y'all like those new Yeezys? Hell no. Which ones? I kind of do. Which ones? Doggy ones.

What's it, like, Moonboots? Yeah, doggy ones. I do a little bit. I'll be honest. I like weird shit like that. You look like Fulms that got like an algae reaction.

Yeah, like alligator teeth. There's been a lot of Yeezys I thought were ugly and then time passed and I was like, hey, they all right. Yo, wait, can you guys believe that during that amazing classic era of music that rory was talking about earlier with the weekend album all that that's when i was wearing foams

2011 yeah but looking back it's like damn that great era in life that's what i was giving them the foam posits yeah i'm sure that was a shoe that we loved that you look back, it's like, damn, that great era in life, that's what I was giving them, the foam posits. Yeah, foam posits. I'm sure you was giving them the odd slippers. That was a shoe that we loved that, you look back now, that's a terrible sneaker. That was a bad shoe. The original was good. But in New York.

When they tried to freak it is when the foam went down. Like, when they started throwing space and stars on it and, like, those were $1,000, it was bad. The gold shits were real ugly. Nah, that's the classic. The copper is the classic. Those shits was ugly. Oh, when I had those Pananorman

Pananorman Whatever it was Phones I thought I was killing the game Oh yeah Cause look what you could match with those A bunch of fluorescent green I'm sure you'd look nuts

Yeah I went phone crazy But anyway Enough about phone Where were we at? Superpowers I believe Oh we're off of superpowers We're done with

The new Yeezy slipper And then we're off of that too Pay the choir, nigga. Yeah, for real. Yeah, don't give them slippers. Never would have made it. There's a Jesus joke somewhere in the slippers. But we'll move on.

Never would have. Go ahead. Parks has an album out. Hey! I do. This is his part. Yo, Parks. It's your time.

Uh-oh. It's your time, Parks. The Christmas album we've been waiting for. Streets are ready. Uh oh The Christmas album We've been waiting for Mariah Carey Who I don't know Hey man We out here

Gift Wrapping 3 Available now on Bandcamp It should be on the DSP soon They're taking their time So I tried the Bandcamp thing And I fucking love it And I'm always gonna release On Bandcamp from now on

Tell us more What do you love What do you love about it so i was initially intrigued by them because during the whole pandemic thing and the black lives matter movement they were donating their portion of the splits to either the artist or and they're still doing that apparently or to uh it was an naacp legal fund to help people, the protesters. So I was like, that's a pretty dope thing for a big company to do. And I know there's a community of indie people over there.

It's like how SoundCloud kind of was. It's a whole separate world. So I was like, let me try it. And then the DSPs didn't put much shit out when we said for them to put it out. So I was like, well, fuck it. Let's let this be the experiment. And it's great

because people actually buy music on Bandcamp i think i sold more records like real physical someone bought the album in the first hour than i got from like the whole year of the shit we put out in june dope oh fire and people can pay whatever they want like they don't have to you set a price but they can pay more which a lot of people did okay like yo here's 30 here's 15 here's 12 whatever you know let me hold something you hear i'm talking that shit right i sold what your first album your whole album sold in my first week your single was 99 cents mine was four bucks how long we got the four bucks in goal? I don't know. Band camp?

Band camp, yeah. Probably so. That line was so disrespectful when it came out. Okay, gift wrapping three. Yeah, we out here. You got some good features on there? Yeah, we got Stove God. We got Ransom, Shane Noir.

I got David Bars, who is really, really dope. He better be dope with Bars in his name. He's got them. Yeah. He's got a lot of Bars. You can't be David Bars and not have bars. Yeah, he's got bars. Parks, I don't assume you to work with people

that don't have bars post my retirement. I don't. That's true. And I would judge you if you did. Yeah. I would come back to rap.

Like, damn, look what I got Parks out here doing. Yeah, but, yeah. Well, congratulations. Thank you. And Giff better have a passport.

I believe he does. All right, cool. the ghetto pokey one passport fucking pass it i only have one congratulations to uh parks and gift gift wrapping three man can you can you talk to us about well you made the deadline you hit send huh you made the deadline sort of yeah send. Huh? You made the deadline. Sort of. Yeah. It's not on DSPs, though. So I didn't hit the deadline, which is kind of annoying because they just put it up when they feel like putting it up. There's no like set. Hey, we'll have it out by this amount of time. It's got to go through their process of investigation.

Yeah. So, yeah. And this is Bandcamp. No, no, no. He's talking about the DSPs. Yeah, we went through like DistroKid or Tugor. It's on Bandcamp. Okay, okay. YouCore to get it distributed

to Apple and everybody like that but they do it on their own terms and that kind of sucks so that's the nice thing about Bandcamp nothing sucks about Apple of course

I love Apple I love Apple music but I'm saying distributing through them is not the easiest of processes or SoundCloud or Cash App yeah yeah

nothing sucks about these places we should have distributed through Cash App just things to work through Cash App records Cash App records Cash App Yeah yeah Nothing sucks about these places I'm like Cash App-y for the album We should've distributed through Cash App Just things to work through Cash App Records Cash App Records is coming That's a real thing I believe it

Yo Cash App me 10 bucks I'll give it to Parks Wow that's crazy Okay Cash App Yeah that's a good idea Well no Like I like Rock Marciano did that on his website

It'll eventually be on the DSPs But you could buy it For the first two weeks here Like for the real fans That actually wanna purchase my album and give money to me rather than other people. Yeah, I love it.

I love it. I understand now. I never really understood why you do that but now I understand. Yeah, I think there's fans out there that actually care about

where their money is going. physicals? No, this is just for a digital download. Just digital download. Okay. That's dope. While we're on albums let me hit the round of applause.

Let's congratulate Kid Cudi for what he sold. I think it was something around $195. Come on, a mad applause. I think it was $195, $197, something like that, but it was a whole lot of albums. Already? It's been out for like three days oh well maybe they're just talking about projections yeah it's got to be a projection well the projection was high that's still amazing it was really hard that's the cutty oh it's not a surprise to me not a surprise to me

either because he always does that cody comes out and sells sells albums that's true like a lot of albums people love cody yeah including me and rory which wasory. Which was my point of saying if you have this large group that always purchase it and don't want you to change your sound, don't change your sound. The influence. Get your shit on.

Go ahead. That's cool. I'm a dot connector. Oh, you did that? I connected dots. Yeah, that's it. I connected Cudi to all 150,000 fans.

To all of them? Every last one of them. You don't know how far my dots go. No, you're right. That dot connector thing is really traveling. My travel agent hit me of them. You don't know how far my dots go. No, you're right. That dot connector thing is really traveling. Like, my travel agent

hit me last night like, don't worry about it. I'm a dot connector. I was like, this is your job. Literally, please connect these dots. You're not a dot connector. You're a travel agent.

Your travel agent telling you she's a dot connector is hilarious, man. No, because she was saying that the rates on New Year's Eve for some of the spaces I'm looking at is a lot. But don't worry. She knows the owner here or this person here.

She's going to connect the dots. And I'm like, man. Okay. No, yeah. It makes her a mover and shaker. You still doing Miami? You still doing Miami? This time he won't snitch on himself.

Silencio, por favor. I think I might hit the floor of the streets Throw on this kid My bad, my bad bro Secret society Did that fucking tell you that my competition's heating up? You think I'm being consistent in what I'm spreading? He's going to seven different cities I'm going to Egypt with one chick.

These other chicks taking me to Greece. The hell you got going on? All over the world. Miami is the talk plan. Where you're like, oh, she had a meeting crazy, yo. She crazy had a meeting on the beach. For five days. With girls naked. Yo, I didn't even bring them naked girls. For five days. With girls, naked.

Yo, I'd even bring them naked girls around, man. You know Miami, though. They'd just be around. Why was they around? Content, content. Yeah, that's all. Content, working on the podcast. Yeah, the podcast.

Whoa. That's a great idea. Cut that out. The podcast is going to be like Old Cinemax But the audio version Oh no Ain't no audio version

Just video it is Straight to video Straight to video It's going to be like What's the shit that My son and the rest Everybody likes Aneem

Anime Yeah ASR No ASR Right the sounds Anime ASR no ASR right the sounds when you listen to that oh you like that

ASR podcast oh my god look out Black China is that like the Moan Room coming for you oh while we on this

no not like the Moan Room but while we on this A Boogie is starting the OnlyFans I got mad hip hop facts that nobody needs but it's for music A Boogie's not getting naked don't disrespect got mad hip hop facts that nobody needs but it's for music A Boogie's not getting naked

don't disrespect him nigga don't shoot this whole shit up over here allegedly I love High Bridge allegedly yeah A Boogie is starting

the OnlyFans for his music which I'm saluting any of you creators that's finding creative ways to get to the bag when we don't know when our normal bag

will be back to normal facts it's kind of like band camp. Say that again. Similar idea. It's a paywall. You said, say that again?

I like that ball you just said. I got it rewinded there. Okay. It's off the top. And on top of that, if you could post your music there with women that are listening to it naked, now we're just merging worlds.

Boy, you can't give away the podcast idea. Today, boogie. We're going to give them sleepers on the podcast? Come on man What's wrong with you guys? So congratulations to A Boogie on that What else we got?

What else we got? What else we got that's important? Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see I saw that Griselda's doing a live internet concert thing Untitled, yeah Untitled That's dope Speaking of different ways to get to the bag In 2020

I think we're going to see a lot of that next year too though I don't think that's going away I think they're just starting to figure that out But I think we're going to see a lot of that next year I feel like I see a new Meg performance Every time I refresh my Instagram She getting the live show bag with no seats For the entire 2020

I respect it I can assure you we're doing something like that in 2021 As soon as I figure out How to make it make sense And look right And be worth everyone's time I'm going to rent an audium I mean an audio

An auditorium Sit us there In front of the empty auditorium And do like a big blowout Livestream podcast I love it Yeah It's a real good idea

Alright You can fight Jake Paul On the undercard I don't care about Jake Paul Trying to get our numbers up bro live stream podcast. I love it. Yeah. It's a real good idea. Um, all right. You can fight Jake Paul on the undercard. I don't care about Jake Paul. Trying to get our numbers up, bro. Our numbers are up.

Not according to some. According to Reddit. Anyways, with that said, um, let's see. There's a young thug project that's supposed to come out Friday.

Really? I wasn't there. Yeah. Okay. I'm just just hope i'm hoping for r&b thug that's what i'm praying for i just think it'll be hard i wish i knew what else was coming out friday so i could talk to you guys about it but i don't uh young thug it's a dope album listen i'm i've been a little disconnected from hip-hop. So last week when we were talking about the albums and we kind of breezed through Jack Harlow shit,

I didn't know that we shouldn't have breezed through it. No, it was a real good project. Also, it just came out four hours before we recorded. Yeah, we record early now, so it's even harder to listen to. But what I'm saying is y'all all told me that it's really good music. I get that. And the streets told me that it's really good music. Yeah.

Which confused me because he's really good music i get that and the streets told me that it's really good music yeah and which confused me because he's white so i normally wait a little while to see if they keep giving it to me but everybody in the streets has great music yeah so i'm not really talking about creatively but on the business side like on the label side i didn't know how big of a release this was for atlantic well he's popular. He's got two hit songs now. He does numbers. But I'm just saying, I don't know. So I went back. I went back. I listened.

I get it. I understand. What album? Sounds like money. Sounds like somebody knows what he's doing. Sure. Sounds like somebody labeled with Get Behind. He talking his shit, too.

Yeah, he can rap. And I've seen none of the white rapper pushback that they normally get when they first come out like i've seen a lot of support for him he seems to be more a lot congratulations atlanta congratulations i feel like drama took him around to introduce him and made him rap for real and knowing that he could rap for real it was an easy introduction like oh he's not corny right like this isn't theicky white rapper shit where we're gonna make him pop no I'm taking him to Sway this is the first time

you're meeting him and he's gonna rap really well yeah and which by the way we gotta give Drama a little credit here with the young acts he's got Uzi and Jack

yeah in this era it's not a bad combo it's a very good combo of who you've found and put on right yeah I would

I would trust Drama's A&R here. And there's no offense to Jack or Uzi if you guys don't feel drama put you on. Because I know artists are sensitive about that. You shook a Uzi. You fucking right. What else?

You like the album? Yeah, I did. It's good. It's a good project. Real good. I did like it. It was a pleasant surprise for me. I think that Tiller and Static made your record should go in the industry terms. Yeah. good this is a good project real good i did i did like it it was a pleasant surprise uh for me i

think that that tiller and static major record should go in the industry terms yeah i think that'll be the one that that breaks next yeah i like the fraud record and of course you do yeah soul sample i'm here i'm here you know i'm always here for that and i like when artists like this work with the more hip-hop and even though fraudud has done so much French Montana stuff, he's still getting his hip hop bag for sure. Sure. And is still able to do the more commercially mainstream rap. Yeah. Shout out to Fraud.

Russ is great at that too. It's true. Here we go. Here we go. HBO Max will honor Dave Chappelle's request to remove the Chappelle Show. Thanks. That's juice. It's a little different. That's juice. request to remove the Chappelle Chappelle show thanks that's that's juice it's a little different that's juice

in a similar move to Netflix no it's not a similar move to Netflix see just that fast I disagree but I'll read it anyway what's this Uproxx premium alright in a similar in a similar move to Netflix HBO Max has announced that it will stop streaming episodes of Chappelle's show following a personal request from Dave Chappelle.

According to CCO Casey Bloys, the show will be pulled from the service at the end of the year, despite HBO Max having no legal obligation to remove the show or a current working relationship with the comedian yeah but see that's where it gets fishy no current working relationship with the comedian yeah well you won't have one if you keep it right i like that though that's my point yeah that's honorable but that's what i was saying yes it's honorable but but even if it's not honorable it's valuable because you should be on the side of the creator even if he hasn't created the new thing that you should support yet because you know it's coming right this was smart it was and also which we had discussed when the netflix shit happened chapelle set that precedent early 50 million dollars don't move me i'm going to leave if i don't like this place so if you're doing something i dislike 100 million not gonna move me now I'm going to leave if I don't like this place. So if you're doing something I dislike,

$100 million not going to move me now. Right. So yeah, you need to go by what he wants as a creator and a comedian. Yeah. Because he's not going to work with you. He'll leave. He's done it before. Yeah.

And I think it just sets the tone. I think HBO, what they're doing is they realize that competition is here. Yeah. And I think they're trying to just set a tone. Like, listen, we're doing an honorable thing. Like, we're working

with the creators. We're not, we don't even want it to be a thing where they feel like we're not on their side. So, like, yeah, no, we're taking the show off

even though we don't have to. But because he asked, no problem. We'll take it down. Yeah. And I think that's dope. Make me feel better going in. Yeah.

Other creators look at that like, okay, they obviously respect creators over here. Let's sit down and talk with them. Absolutely. It's a smart move by HBO. Yeah, I like it. Considering HBO Max has been making aggressive moves to boost its content offering,

the decision to pull the iconic sketch comedy series is surprising. Shut up. No, it's not. I think by industry standards, yeah. Yeah, no, by industry standards yeah yeah no by industry standards definitely the industry don't know shit well that's the answer is in the sentence considering hbo max has been and i'm considering that has been making aggressive moves to boost its content offering that means you assume they can want to continue to do that the decision to pull the sketch comedy series is

surprising no it ain't because they've been making aggressive moves to boost the content offering so i'm i'm getting in good graces with the person that i think is going to deliver great content for the next half many years and the person that everyone loves so if that was the next line nice that was the next line but it also speaks speaks to Chappelle's power in the entertainment industry. Yeah. Yeah, that's what the next line said. He's got the juice. Yeah.

And the ability to leave. Okay, so back to me putting y'all in the artist seat. And this is inspired from this Dave Chappelle shit going on. Sure. hell shit going on because i'm i'm thinking that hbo does see a value for this show that has not been created yet yeah to be in the business in a non-exclusive model that's important to note i think that hbo thinks that dave can put shit out everywhere at the same time and it'd be profitable for all. You hear that? Hello?

People out there, this is not a rant coming. I know this is my rant voice. I feel a rant coming. This is a pre-rant. No, no. We know when it's coming. It's cool. I don't have a rant, though.

You know, I feel like I come in here and I rant. It's like, it falls on deaf ears. Like, who cares? Some people hear it, some people don't. But I feel like you got to see it for yourself. True. Like, it's pointless for me to come in here and say all the shit that I see. You got to see it for yourself.

So back to y'all. Mm-hmm. There's a company called Jeans. Half of the country gets jeans from them. Talk about Levi. Whoever it is. Y'all make the best jean in the world. What is your collaboration worth with jeans.com or whatever the company is?

We got jeans. What is your collaboration worth before you've collaborated? Because that's the position that creators find themselves in. So I'm asking y'all when somebody comes to you and says, Hey, we want to partner on a partner. I'm so sorry. Internet. We want to partner on a pair of jeans. We want to license the jeans, or we want to buy some of the IP of the jeans.

Is this a Kith sub? No, but we can speak about Kith after this. This does not have anything to do with Kith. I was joking. This is totally about gauging the value of something before you've created it and putting a price on it at a negotiating table, even though it doesn't exist. The equivalent of buying a house without the appraisal, without seeing the land, seeing the lot, seeing the house, seeing anything. I told you all, Thiel Sattermeyer said, treat every song like it's your best one.

So it's back there of, if you're telling me to use my imagination as a creative on what could exist, I'm going to imagine the most beautiful house in the world. Right. But I have to negotiate a value off of what is unseen. Mm-hmm. How do y'all do it?

It depends on the context. Because if you have a track record and have some experience doing a thing, you can easily understand your value. Now, if we're talking about jeans, I don't know shit about jeans and what's worth what in jeans. So that's difficult for me to gauge.

But for someone like Chappelle, who has done a trillion successful fucking things, he knows what his value is for a show. Roughly. You have to have done something where you can negotiate from that standpoint of, yeah, see, I've done it already. But now I want to do it with people that respect the creators, that respect the content, that respect the art.

This is why I hate y'all. Why? Because all of that's right what y'all are saying. Yeah, but that's okay. But as the creator. It's hard but as the creator what you said because that's why i'm asking because as the creator and all of this right shit that y'all saying you still got to come up with something like what do you what do you say not dave chappelle i know we don't make jeans i'm using the gene as a metaphor it could be music whatever you do so it's coming from a place where i've sold a shitload of jeans already, and now I'm just looking to expand. You are established as the best jean, one of the top 10 jean makers in the world.

You don't know the behind the scenes and the nuts or the business model of jean.com. All you know is everybody in the world gets jeans from them. What is my jean worth if I partner with them and collaborate with them? That's what I'm asking. Okay. Are you looking for a number? We want to create. Hey, we want to create.

Yes. Hey, all right. Let's simplify this. We want to create a gene. We also want 50% of the gene. Well, if you're going with gene.com, they're the big dog in town, you might not get 50%. But getting

15% of gene.com, the biggest gene in the world, is probably more valuable than getting 100% of me making genes out of my basement apartment. And I need to figure out before any number, what exactly do you want to partner with me for?

If you're the jean company that everyone goes to to get jeans and they're just basic jeans and that's just where the general $10 jean is. But it's not that Rory jean with the Rory sauce. That's what I'm saying. So are you trying to get a cooler demographic, quote unquote, a niche demographic? Are you trying to be next to somebody that is cool so you can move your brand out of this generic I just make basic ass jeans? that all has to come

into the factor. What do you want from me? You're going to take my sauce and implement it into your other jeans? I don't need to hear it. I don't need to hear it anymore because exactly what y'all are saying

is how artists get fucked. Y'all are right. My best jean in the world, if I'm alone with it, I might not value it as high as I would, even though I make the best genes. Right. I might need the money and I might not value it as high as I would if I were in a different situation with gene.com. So now I'm forced to negotiate. You're valuing their community more than your design.

Exactly. Is what you're saying. Exactly. I'll give it to a bigger group of people even though I have forced to negotiate. You're valuing their community more than your design. Exactly. That's what you're saying. I'll give it to a bigger group of people even though I have the better quality. Yeah. Yeah, no, artists get fucked all the time with that. Yeah. Oh yeah, let me go directly to where the people are, but where the people are is owned by this particular brand that knows their worth of the community they offer. So they're not going to give much up.

And I thought about this. We'll find another cool person. I thought about this whole leaning into putting y'all in the artist seat when I watched the internet kill me for whatever I said about Kid Cudi. Because they were killing me. And in my head, I'm like, the same shit I told Rory before this podcast started. I'm like, fam, whatever I'm saying only comes from like 17 albums worth of knowledge. Right.

And I understand that that's not a seat that everyone speaks from. So I understand how I could be looked at like the weirdo but if you put some people in the actual artist seat where you get out of consumer mind I think it becomes

a lot easier to just understand some of the decisions made out there yeah but a lot of people see it's all about where you negotiate your standpoint

like you because like Park said you take 15% of a company is better than taking 90% of a company that you know doesn't have but he said the company no not you're not getting 15% of this company but you can get 15% of the great gene that you make that we partner on the collab you had a collab that's more of yeah If we're collabing, I'm not taking 15%. No, no, no. Well, if you're collabing, it depends.

It depends. You might take 15% if you're collaborating. In music, there's a million stories of songwriters giving up half their pub to person, people that did not write the song because it's worth it being on that whatever Beyonce, Ariana Grande record or whatever it may be. They might not have wrote a single word, but I'm going to give them 15% because this song is going to go quadruple platinum. And back to the Beyonce, Ariana Grande and Big Gene company.

To work with them, you ain't keeping nothing. This is our standard over here. We're taking this. Yeah, we'll pay you, but no, we are owning this. This is ours now. That's how this company works. Yeah. Yeah, kick rocks. You and your fancy gene. It's a big, I like those rhinestones. we'll pay you but no we are owning this this is ours now that's how this company works yeah yeah kick rocks

you and your fancy jean it's a big I like those rhinestones take your little fancy jean down the street it's a game of chess who are they ripped at the knee yeah it's just a game of chess

you just gotta make the right moves and more importantly just do business with the right people that's true like if you feel like it's easier to do business when you feel like

this company they're just good people they do things the right way they treat treat people right like you may not make the money you were going into it with but you're in partnership or you're in business with somebody that you know okay these are good people they do the right thing they give back to different organizations they help out they have great internship programs where they bring kids in and show them the business and show them how things work yeah when you do business with people like that a lot of that other shit money and percentage you can kind of sort of like okay i didn't get the percentage i wanted but they're doing a lot of great things like and you want to be a part of a company that's

doing i want to also have to uh pick your time wisely i guess like sometimes it may be worth giving up the one song and only getting 15% on it. It's just one song. I'm going to make a hundred more songs. It's not that big a deal. Right. Right. I want to,

uh, salute and commend HBO for doing the right thing and staying or doing a move to stay in the good graces of a man that's just added immense value everywhere that he's gone. Honorable and just smart business. Yeah, absolutely. And smart business. Even if they're scumbags, it's good business.

It's good business. But once you do honorable things, everything else, to me, falls in place. I agree. If it starts with just, I'm going to do the honorable thing.

Right. All that other shit will fall into place. It goes back to me talking about deciding to go with Bandcamp for this release. Right.

I like what they did. Right. Whether, I don't know if that was performative or whatever the words are that people use. I don't know if their

hearts are in the right place, but it's, like, I like it. Right. I like it. And that's important. The Dipset Collabo? Yeah.

I hate saying Collabo. It was a Collabo. It was. Yeah, but they took the O off it now. The cool kids just said Collab, right? Yeah. Collabo. I'm showing my age out here. It's a Collabo. It was a collabo. Kith set. Yeah, but they took the O off it now. The cool kids just said collab, right? Yeah. Collabo.

I'm showing my age out here. It's a collab. Well, it was for the Kith and Nick's collab. This was a double collab. Triple collab. Woo. A lot of collabing. I like it.

Kith set. No, chill. Let Rory cook. Let me get a shit on. Oh, my bad. I didn't have much. Rory is the Kith insider here. This is your bag. Is this my bag? Yeah, you're the Kith guy. Come on, Rory cook. Let me get you to. Oh, my bad. I didn't have much. Rory is the Kith insider. This is your bag.

Is this my bag? Yeah, you're the Kith guy. Come on, Rory. And the Dipset guy. And an X-Men. Yeah, what the hell? Here's the thing. Nick's sure.

I think Maul wears just as much Kith as I do, and he knows Dipset. I just know one member. I don't wear a lot of Kith. On tour, I saw some items that i was looking on in the rack and was like oh i know where you got that i looked at that one too all right i'm sick of y'all joking through seriousness is ronnie feig uh feig a culture vulture or not i don't know ronnie oh he didn't give you those sweats let you exchange them sweats he did do the he did do the right thing with that by the way i don't know if i reported he did do he did do the right thing with that by the way

i don't know if i actually reported on that because i know the joke was joe button is returning sweats as if that would shame me do y'all do y'all have any idea who i am you've taken back lesser i've done way worse than try to return sweats I didn't want. With Yes Jules. But no, I was complaining about customer service and whoever the gentleman was in there that I was dealing with and trying to make a return. And me and Ronnie spoke behind the scenes and he sent me a cure package. He apologized.

He made it right. I appreciated how fast he moved to make it right. Because all I was doing was using my celebrity to bitch publicly and weaponize my fan base. I'm glad you admitted that, though. Because a lot of artists won't just come out and just straight say that. Most artists do that. And I hate when they do it. That's actually one of my favorite things about Twitter is seeing people yell at corporations.

It's like, will you stop? Was that Lizzo or somebody that fucking got her fan base to scream at Coach USA or something? Uber Eats or something for delivering the wrong shit? I don't remember what it was. And shout out to Lizzo. I support you even though... Anyways,

shifting gears. Shifting gears. You do shift gears. Roy you do shift gears Roy loves to shift gears I was cursing out United on Twitter one time because they canceled

my flight when the weather was fine oh my god another airline story Roy you in the airports man and then United they DM'd me

and I was still a little hot and I started typing shit I'm like who am I who am I talking to like why am I cursing this person out they did nothing to me they weren't even there they're not even in america like let me

know like why am i cursing out of a person that is just part of a corporation this is dumb but no i don't think ronnie is a culture vulture to answer but i'm not the person that should be answering that question i don't i don't know what he has been accused of. I'm not going to say he's a culture vulture, but a few of them are. I won't say it either, but I won't attempt to sway someone that does. I don't know him well enough to, I don't do that.

If I don't know you personally, I can't put labels on you. Here's a definition I thought that was a good definition of culture vulture. A person or organization making a profit using unhonorable practices in a culture they do not care for. Is that something you think Keith and Ronnie do? I don't know if it's unhonorable. I'm not going to say that.

I don't know the business of it. I don't know. It's too loaded of an accusation for me to stand firm in that. One thing I don't like. I think Ronnie cares about the culture. Is that a lot of the people that work at Keith that I fuck with. I don't like the fact that he kind of got mad at them for the friends and family discount they did for the year.

Because at the end of the year, they tally up how much money you used on discounting for friends and family. Because they kind of cracked down on that. I went to Kith a few days ago, and they was like, yo, we can't do that. You're no longer a friend or family. But it's like, when you look at the number of what this person that works there sold for you, how much they sold in clothing that year versus 20 grand on families and friends and they sold $3 million worth of clothes.

You can't beef with that kid for that. That's what he's having relationships. He knows athletes. He knows rappers. They're coming in there. He's like, yeah, I'll fuck with him. I'm going to give him my discount. You know what I mean?

That right there, I just don't like because it's like these Like I'll fuck with him Like I'm gonna give him My discount You know what I mean So I don't That right there I just don't like Because it's like These are the people That are driving this brand Cause when you go on Kith And you connect With one of the people

That work there Like they exchange numbers They let you know When things are dropping They let you You know what I mean They look out So now if I go there

And I'm thinking like That relationship And that energy Is still there And they be like Yo Ronnie came down on me I can't really And I'm like damn But what happened And then they're telling I'm like That shit like that I don thinking like that relationship and that energy is still there. And they'd be like, yo, Ronnie came down on me. I can't really.

And I'm like, damn, but what happened? And then they're telling me, I'm like, that shit like that, I don't like. I mean, that happens a lot with bigger company gets, you know, they have different accountants and people pinching down on shit. Listen, I get it. I'm not trying to tell nobody how to run their business. I'm just saying that now you're going to feel that because these people that work there, they have a real relationship With these artists

And these you know Influencers or whatever Yeah like they really Create a relationship With these people And drive the brand for you So now when they Tell you like

Yo I can't do that It's like oh You know I can go somewhere else Oh I can get a lot of this shit For free I don't even have to come here Right You know what I mean

Do you think maybe the person At Kith Found some women They wanted to use that Friends and family on instead of you and just blamed it on Ronnie? No. Okay. That's not the thing at all. They can't.

There's only two people that they can have friends and family from now on. And they found two chicks? Yes, for sure. For sure. I have a job and it happens on Tuesdays. I'll call you when I leave my job. And it would be nice if you answered the text so you don't have to call me and interrupt me at my job. Thank you.

Goodbye. All right. That was Ronnie? No. The people that call on Tuesdays and Fridays, I'm always confused. Yeah, this shit is crazy. Yeah, they don't really listen to you or care about your life is how I rationalize things but that's one of my

toxic traits I called I called my old barber Jose to organize to set up a cut because my new barber that replaced him

goes on three week vacations whenever he feels like it I don't like here's my thing when you decide to enter the barber art form talk about it

you are now taking your personal life away you no longer can go on vacations. I don't particularly care about you seeing your kids. I don't care about your family. He keeps trying to bring up his wife and kids. I'm like, fam, my cut. I don't... What are you talking about? And just the

entitlement in the chair when they tell you, yeah, now I'm about to go see my son in Michigan for a little while. Fam, how dare you? What about my beard? I went 10 years without seeing my son. What are you talking about? You cannot see my son in Michigan for a little while. How dare you? What about my peers? I went 10 years without seeing my son. What are you talking about? You cannot see your son.

They're still going to grow up. What if I leave an extra $5 too? I'm kidding. Comedy style, by the way. Comedy style, by the way. So yeah, what was we talking about? Kith.

Kith. I offer no opinion on whether Figue is a culture bouncer or not. That's not my thing. I was really happy seeing Dipset stand in Madison Square Garden, getting a freestyle off. I love Jimmy's shit.

I was real happy to see Joel Santana back with his brothers in the black bandana, which is his signature thing. And then I got to thinking, is there ever a time where it's okay to get rid of your signature thing? Depends on what the signature thing is. Like this felt good to see him in the bandana. Yeah, it's not like some signature things like you grow out of and you become more of an adult.

He looks fine as an adult with that. Slick Rick don't grow out the jewelry. Like I want to see that. Certain things is just your thing. The other week we was talking about Ghostface with the eagle bracelet thing. Yeah, you might not want to wear that all the time today, but guess what? We identified you with it. It depends on what the thing is.

Bandana is pretty timeless. I think they've been making bandanas for a trillion years. Well, he wore it a little different. Willie Nelson still wears his bandana. It's all good. If Willie can do it, then Jewel's can. Absolutely. I think that's a pretty good rule.

Yeah. Do you guys have thoughts on this? I love the freestyle. I'm never buying anything Kith ever again. I thought it was dope. Oh, you do sell other brands that you like in there. That's what I don't like about it. Well, so does Saks Fifth.

And every store you shop at. So does Bergdorf. Like, they all sell other people's clothes. Got it. I'm telling you what I'm doing with my black dollar. Not for you to, not for you to do it. Not whatever I want to do with it. Of course.

Especially on December 21st. I buy the things I like. I'm not one of those people, I say support black businesses, but I also buy shit that I like to buy. So I'm using my black dollar on what I would like to use it for, which is not Kith or Ronnie Feig.

I'm not trying to convince anyone else to do that, but when the Feig-Timberland collab came out, I got off it. When the Feig-Carrhart collab came out, when I was trying to return all of these sweats, I had no idea that the collab culture, look, Kith Coca-Cola, like that stuff is vulture-y that shit is vulture-y to me okay to me in what way and when i just because what is he not him as in ronnie feed because this is not against him what are you adding to the culture you slapping your name

on shit that has lived in the culture for years and years. It's a turn off for me. So I'm not buying it. Some of it I definitely don't understand. I agree with you. No, there are a little over-saturated. When they did the Kith Polo collab, I was kind of like. Come on, man.

Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. I don't know. No, but I do appreciate some of the- Yo, I was in Bird Off now that you make that joke. And know what I see?

What? A Kith Bird Off collab. Oh, no. Maybe that wasn't in Bird Off. That was in the Kith store in Miami. That was one of their first joints see? What? A Kith Bird Off collab. Oh, no. Maybe that wasn't Bird Off. That was in a Kith store in Miami. That was one of their first joints. That was in a Kith store in Miami. It's been going on for a long time.

I'm seeing Bird Off shit in Kith, Miami. Yeah. Yeah. I get what you mean. What's going on? Little sales people in there talking about,

I bought a $300 shirt because I packed light and didn't have anything to wear. Shit looked a little big because it's final sale in there In Miami Final sale You can't return shit

You better try it on So I pick up this fucking Whatever shirt it was But it was expensive It was a little t-shirt And it looked like oversized But the size was 54 I say yo

You got this in a large She say yo We got it in a 52 But this is the large It's supposed to be oversized I take it back to the crib Cause I ain't got time with a hotel i bring it in there that the shoulder line is down down here so then i'm like really you gotta lie to get this inventory out the fucking store if i had time i would go over there and try to return this shirt or exchange the shirt and

then they would drag me on the internet you do know that not just kith but like every clothing brand has different cuts for their sizes a large in a certain brand may be cut to be oversized and that's what their large is yeah there's different oversized t-shirts what's he saying the oversized are you saying a large and them lying because it didn't fit where your typical large does is not the company's fault that would be your fault for not trying it on he's losing me there's different cuts in different t-shirts they're not lying to you that's the large is not the company's fault. That would be your fault for not trying it on. He's losing me. There's different cuts in different t-shirts.

They're not lying to you. That's the large for that cut. No, it's not. Okay, it's not. Because the large on oversized shirts, the lining is in place and it's built to be oversized. Not the line for the shoulder being down here on a shirt that is supposed to be oversized is what i'm saying rory and there's different oversized there's no you will not find any oversized in the world rory where the shoulder lining is down here on a 52 okay and if you can

please please please show it to me definitely i don't see that. That's just in how clothes fit and style. That's not. It's wrong. It's a lie. Well, to your original point, I can't speak on him being a culture vulture. I don't know him personally. Well, y'all can tell me something about what y'all thought of the freestyle. That shit was dope.

And to the collab stuff, I do think it's a bit oversaturated. It's corny. And there's a lot of stuff that isn't for me, but I don't think everything in the world is for me. I agree with that. But even with a bit oversaturated it's corny and there's a lot of stuff that isn't for me but I don't think everything in the world is for me I agree with that but even with like

the car art stuff it's corny yeah it's corny with the car art stuff and some other shit I do like look Keith Looney Tunes when they do collabs

and take older brands and make them fit to the now as far as cuts and quality and different things or even with their sneaker designs

certain new balances A6 that are old and cool. Y'all remember those and make them more 2020 now. I like that type of collab shit. So not, I'm not going to cop the Looney Tunes Kiff shit, but I do like when they do certain shit with Carhartt.

I'm not mad at that. Cuts differently now in 2020. I love Carhartt. Carhartt's amazing, but the way they do their original stuff is not how I wear my clothes anymore. Right. So yeah,

I don't mind getting the Kiff shit because I know they'll cut it the way i like to wear clothing now so i'm not going to say every collab is is horrible but no i'm not going to get the cereal or the looney tunes or anything coca-cola related i don't even drink soda but everything is not for me so i'm not going to kill anything i dislike i got it i got it and oversized shirts are cut differently. Had to get that last word in. I love Rory, man. My guy. Tell me about this Tyrese shit. Nah, you got to read the caption.

I should got it. Give us the Ty knowledge. I haven't read this prior to this. It's even better. Random shit I think of on flights. One of my secrets for staying COVID free

is I sleep with the heat on 90 degrees every night facts been sleeping at this temp for 15 years so it's nothing new but rumor has it if you catch covet it doesn't survive warm temperatures another random thought is people are not loyal to you this shit he was every fucking way but i like that he let you know his random thoughts, so I understand it. Another random thought is people are not loyal to you. They are loyal to what they want from you. Never even thought of it that way.

Me neither. It's okay to be cool with people who you clearly see and know they want something, as long as you are clear about their clear intentions. Just know, as soon as they don't get what they want, they will disappear faster than you can blink. Now that's fast. And just leave you standing there confused,

shook, and feeling like what the fuck just happened. Maul, Maul, take a minute to pick the gems up. Oh no, they all over the place. We need a vacuum.

I'm a self-professed alpha empath. Me too, I think. My alpha was turned fragile people away. I think he meant Will. Oh, that's his superpower. My alpha would turn fragile people away. Oh, that's a superpower. My alpha would turn fragile people away.

Tyrese found out about his superpower earlier. When that happens, it makes me happen. See, y'all don't even know what makes you happen. When that happens, it makes me happen. Uh-oh, it's a trigger. Because I have one less person to love and care for. With your fragile bitch ass. Yo, where else y'all going to get these from?

Y'all don't even follow Tyrese. Y'all don't even know he be doing this. I follow him. Yeah, come on. Look at Black Ty gazing out the window at the sunset. You know when you gaze, you got to drop jewels. The look away selfie. Yeah.

I wonder what the temperature on the plane was. With the Paisley COVID scarf. Was that Paisley COVID? Joe said that he did leave the ACL when he caught COVID, so he might be right. I was super wrong about it. You were wrong? That take was just as bad as my

Chance album take. I did not catch COVID from the temperature in the house like I came in here and said. Got it. I was really irresponsible. By the way, I do want to know one of my secrets for staying COVID free is to sleep with the heat on 90. That's just one. Yeah.

He got more of them. Can we get another secret? He got more of them. You got to follow him. You don't know when he's going to drop the secret. Come on, you guys. Share the temperature before you go to bed. What are you liking at?

It has to be cold. I can't sleep in a hot room. Look at my skin, bro. You know I'm a 68, man. Yeah. I can't sleep in a hot room. I like a nice immediate, you know, 74. Oh, no.

That's way too hot. But it depends. In the summertime, I want it to be ice cold. In the wintertime, I want it to be a little cozy. Cozy. As men, we like to snuggle up in the blanket, right? Even when we're in the bed alone. Absolutely.

Big comforter, AC on. Yeah. I'm there all day. Big pillows, all that. I tried the weighted blanket thing. Worst decision I ever made. Really? Why? That shit is terrible. Why? The weighted blanket? It is. I've never done it. He's Yeah. I'm there all day. Big pillows. All that. I tried the weighted blanket thing. Worst decision I ever made. Really? Why?

That shit is terrible. Why? The weighted blanket? It is. I've never done it. He's right. I did it. That shit is terrible, bro.

Is it because it made you sleep too much? Or no? It just feels like, it's like, you know when you get to, when you go to the dentist and they put the vest on you to get an x-ray?

It feels like that. And it's like, dog, like, I can't, I get the idea of it. Sure. But just get a better blanket. Don't get you gotta get a weighted blanket just get a better down

come you gotta get it you gotta get yeah upgrade your dentist man you know they take x-rays without that thing no they don't well I just went to the dentist they do my dentist is great shout out the doctor they're affected thing over me it's also the reason I don't go through that fucking it's airport thing holy not super heavy anymore like the old big stupid ones. Like it's like

some cool shit. Nah. You don't care? I love my dentist. He's great. Nah, I'm just sticking with Dr. Fisher and his old shit.

I told y'all they're doing abortions just from like a pill now, right? They've been doing that for a while. It depends on how far along you are. Wouldn't know.

I'm celibate. Welcome to the train, buddy. Last train to Paris. Last train to fucking. Maul's been on this podcast for five years and has been celibate the entire time. Me and Maul have been celibate for five years. I'm calling bullshit. Yeah, man.

Now, Maul's been longer in his celibacy than me. It's been about five years for Maul. It's called semen retention. It's a real thing. Semen retention? Yeah. You can't just be dropping your seeds everywhere. You know what I'm saying? in his celibacy to me. It's been about five years from all. It's called semen retention. It's a real thing. Semen retention? Yeah. You can't just be dropping your seeds everywhere. You know what I'm saying?

You're retaining it. You just running around chilling with a loaded gun. Yeah, that's it. The next one that get it, though, head off. Smooth off. You hear me, Joe? No, I hear you. No, I'm not.

Smooth off. I'm not going to head smooth off. Oh, God. Let me see the little birth control pill packet in the purse. Smooth off I'm not gonna Smooth off Oh my god Let me see the little Birth control Pill packet In the purse While I'm strolling

To the bathroom Oh she got that in there So you go through her purse How you strolling Through the bathroom And see in the purse Look what you did You strolling

To the bathroom That's a bad lie Y'all was strolling To the bathroom No no you had the purse Going to the bathroom Got the nerve to show But don't do that That's the best place To go to the purse though to the bathroom I see No no you had the purse Going to the bathroom Got the nerve to show But don't do that

That's the best place To go to the purse though Is the bathroom But that's No I'm not going Through her bathroom In the purse Joe turn the water on

When he going through her purse So she don't hear nothing No You sound experienced That's how she move Yeah I mean Every dude done did that before You know how many times

In my younger years I done stole money Out of girl purse Why shit Yo this is only funny Because When you get a chick Every dude done did that before. You know how many times in my younger years I done stole money out of girl purse? They steal my shit. Yo, this is only funny because when you get a chick that's brand new to the designer bag game and they ain't got nothing in the bag, it's easy to just peek in. They don't have nothing in their bag. All right, she got a pen.

Chapstick, lip gloss. Yeah, she got a couple. She got change in there if I need it, if I park at a meter. ID. Just one key. A little payphone. Yeah. All right, she got a Hyundai. She got change in there if I need it, if I park at a meter. ID. Just one key. A little payphone. Yeah. All right.

She got a Hyundai key in there. A Fidelis health care card. Okay. Yo, bitches, bitches, bags and trunks be a mess. That's a fact. Oh, my God. Nasty heathens. Closets.

No, chicks' cars are gross. Facts. Really gross. War zone. Well. Let me just tell you. Now, but when you see the birth control, the purse, you're in for a. Facts. Really gross. War zone. Well. Let me just tell you. No, but when you see the birth control in the purse, you're in for a good time. Responsible.

Not when it's April 3rd and she hasn't taken it since fucking March. You're like, all right, hold on. January's here. That's the fake pill. Yeah. And no, don't fuck with the wheel one. The wheel one's the most confusing. If you change a number right after you dump in it,

you're not responsible. You're not responsible for that, baby. You think you're going to be liable for that for 18 years? Just go to Cincinnati. What? You didn't know the whole population of everyone in Cincinnati is absent fathers? Listen,

I only brought this up. Listen, Maul will tell you guys how great this celibacy shit is, right? Oh, it's amazing. See things so clear. I feel like I would be foggy.

No. No. Telling you, man, semen retention. Look it up. It's real. And they go crazy. Over the retented semen? Yeah. Girls want to fuck more than we do, it's real. And they go crazy. Over the retentive semen?

Yeah. Girls want to fuck more than we do. That's true. They just hide it better. So when we throw that card at it, yo, I'm gay. I don't even want to fuck. I like it. I know we can't say that. I like it. Well, that's because

we don't have the period excuse. No, see, but the celibacy shit is the period excuse. Ah, I see what you've done. I'm a genius. You don't want to rush things. About to use the temple. Yeah. Yeah.

While you eat pork in the morning. Yeah, send me a full name, date of birth, and come sleep on your side of the bed. Right, and stay over there. I got a couple bedrooms. I'm going gonna rattle this snake over here but don't touch me you can still catch a J even though you're celibate.

I don't know if that's seeming retentive. Oh, yeah. I don't think you're retenting anything if you're still catching a J. Would you engaged niggas shut the fuck up and let me and Rory... Yo, why do you keep talking on shit?

You niggas are married. You're just making noises and freaking them all. I'm making noises to my celibate friend who understands what the noises mean in celibate land.

Shut your engaged ass happy ass up. Are you going to squeak it more? Nigga man in love and happy with someone fucking who means something to him. I'm going to fucking hear that shit from you and Rory right now. Ta-da. What else we got? This and that. See, look.

Wifey laughing at your jokes. We don't have that, nigga. Yeah, we don't. We chuckle in the crib when we make a joke. Just by yourself? Yeah. Telling yourself to laugh at our jokes. Good one, Joe.

Yeah. Sometimes I just start reading shit out loud to myself. All right, Greek freak, resign. I see he got the five damn he got it didn't he it is a lonely single world out there man

it is man you have like full blown conversations with yourself sometimes when I'm searching for a little movie at times look at here

you want alright what you think about alright I'm gonna check it out for us nobody nobody the screen yeah man by itself Alright If you think about it Alright I'm gonna check it out for us Nobody Nobody

The screen Yeah By itself I've seen that But I'll rewatch it for you I got 10 tenant dates Hey Hey tenant is a hot one out there

Look at St. Barth Yo you be stealing my sauce Don't watch tenantet with no bitches, nigga. Oh, I'm so corny. I cut the first five minutes so I'm like, ooh, we gonna enjoy that. That's funny.

Let me cut that one off. I'm gonna save this one for later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, what's happening? A Greek freak, $228 million, five-year extension,

still no jump shot. Got it. Jesus Christ. Just checking. That's the largest in NBA history, right? How much money is the NBA making that they've just given up $228 million? More than that. A lot.

A lot more than that. You can believe that. My God. I understand his deal, though. They had to lock him in. It's Milwaukee. Yeah, I read something that the NBA was giving every team $30 million because of COVID and they're allowing legal marijuana.

I'm like, how does the NBA run better than our actual country? The world. We got $1,200. They said, hey, we'll tax you for that later. Right. Coming back for that one. Yeah. I want to see Adam Silver in the White House.

At this point. Points can be made. Just put a bubble around the country. Congratulations to the Greek freak. The Knicks are so trash. Why? Greek freak was getting busy a few years ago. Here go the Knicks

when it's like, oh, we signed this brother. We got Darryl. He'll go to Nick's one and say, oh, we signed his brother. We got Daryl on Tampa Taco. That nigga Daryl didn't do shit out there. That's not even his name. I know. There's a jersey saying a Tempatuko. We was hyped. Daryl.

Nick's always got the brother of the star. Oh, my God. That's funny but true. Oh, man. They tried to roll out Daryl at Tim Patanko with Chris Dudley. That's funny. They could sign Glenn Rice when he was 50. I hate the Knicks.

Anyway. All right. They signed McDyess. We might have traded for McDyess when he was 50. Vin Baker. Vin Baker at 50. The Knicks, y'all are fucking trash. Both his knees gone.

Yeah, let's bring him in. Bring him in now. Overtame him. Mo, speaking of Knicks, real quick, and we're getting off this. Julius been hooping. Don't do that. I read something that said. Okay, I thought you were trying to shoot at my guy.

No, Julius has been hooping, so that's where this next statement comes from. Now Tom Thibodeau is talking about want to see what the starting lineup looks like with both Julius and Obi. So, Tom, I'm going to tell you, your opponents will score 500 points. Tom, we're going to help you out. 500 points a night. I'm sure Neural Nolans is not blocking much back there. Yeah, no, that would be a bad idea.

Oh, that's fucked up, Neural Nolans. What's his name? I'm fucking it up. Neuralin Noel. Neuralin Noel, Newolans What's his name I'm fucking it up Nerlin Nerlin Noel New Orleans What's this nigga's name man He was close Nerlin

I like Nerlins though Bobby Porter's threatened me Last season He's out of there They did that for you You got Bobby shipped out You got Bobby shipped out You stupid

Watch your mouth, nigga. What the fuck is wrong with you? All right, let me stop because he'll hook off. All right, where we at? Where we at? Where we at? What else we got? Your Honor.

Yo, no, no, no. Before we get to that, let's stay on sports. What did y'all think of that game the other night? Browns-Ravens? Cleveland-Ravens. I know it was two days ago, but man. I didn't see it. It was a doozy. Well, yeah, you're two days ago but man i didn't see it was a

doozy well yeah you're not watching but man what again i'm watching i'm actually watching some football now i don't i don't catch all the games but i like the i like i'm mad i missed this one because i like lamar jackson more jackson had to sit out for a minute they said he had cramps he had to go take a shit came back on the field won the game for real yeah yeah i like him i like him a lot oh man that was a good game my fantasy team might be doing a little better had he done this all season long. Thanks, Lamar Jackson, first round pick. Yeah, they're coming through now.

I said the Patriots are playing better, right? A little bit. Yeah, they're doing all right. Yeah, they're losing better now. No, they're losing better. Yeah, no, they're losing better. They're keeping it respectable. Yeah, I want to watch it.

It's a little different now. I want to watch it now. Yeah, people are actually blocking sometimes. It's great little different now. I want to watch it now. Yeah, people are actually blocking sometimes. It's great. A little something. They're in the hunt. They won't make the playoffs, but they're in the hunt. How many games have the Browns won without Odell?

More than with. They're winning games now. I hate when that happens because then that ain't going to say, see, we don't need Odell. No, the Browns have been a run-heavy team. Yeah. They have two great running backs. Kareem Hunt, man.

Looks good, man. I mean, we knew that from the Kansas City thing, but man. They got an offensive line, too. They got homeboy from the Titans in the offseason. And Nick Chubb. And Nick Chubb's next season. Next season, I'm going to wait, but I'm coming in here with Nick Chubb versus Saquon Barkley. Saquon's going to get some heat out of me.

I mean. He better finish a season next season. Yeah. Yeah. Or it's going to be a new talk. Sorry, Saquon's going to get some heat out of me. He better finish a season next season. Or it's going to be a new talk. Sorry, Saquon. I jumped up and down when you got picked too. He was my favorite player in that draft, but he hasn't...

Injuries, man. He's delivered when he's on the field, though, for the most part. Josh Allen, man. I'm so impressed by him because he was the last ranked quarterback in that draft. He's been balling. Happy for him. Well, I said before, he got weapons.

And he got some coaching, helping the offseason. The NFL started on time, so Super Bowl should still be February, right? Yeah, it looks that way. I don't know anything about when the NBA season starts next week. I don't know when the playoffs start. All-star weekend is canceled, right? Everything is the same? Yeah, everything is the same so far. I know that last week they didn't have any COVID cases, I think,

for the first time in a while. So whatever, I don't know what changes they may have made, but it seems to have worked. There was a point where it looked like they were going to go off the rails and have to do 18, 19 weeks. They say where they're doing the Super Bowl? Still, all right. Oh, really?

Who? Where? Well, that's the teams Oh yeah No it does say location too We still have an all star weekend this year Where Oh no wait

Probably in the bubble Alright Oh no no no They pushed it to From To 2024 Huh Excuse me

Yeah it was supposed to be in Indianapolis this year Oh Alright Wow Alright Alright what else is important Off of sports You wanted to get to TV Your honor Indianapolis this year. Oh. All right. Wow. All right. All right, what else is important? Off of sports, you wanted to get to TV, Your Honor. We should have got to that off the HBO Max conversation.

They're going to have an all-star weekend, but it's going to be a more condensed type of thing this year. Okay. They haven't announced the plans yet. They're telling the world, or was the world telling them that? Yeah. I love people. Yeah, NBA, y'all are that much in control.

We're condensing things. Yeah. I know. TV, your honor. Woo. HBO Max doing the honorable thing. It's nice.

It's showtime. It's showtime. Showtime. Oh, still? Yeah. You thought it changed? But this was originally on Prime, right?

Was it? Yeah, I think the first episode I watched was on Prime oh no it's been on Showtime to my knowledge it's been on Showtime unless they have it

on Prime as well they do they absolutely do I think right it's on Plex now too hey oh Showtime has a deal okay yeah

because I definitely watched it on Prime but two episodes in man this is already one of the best shows of the year yeah there's a lot of a lot of angles they can go

with this yeah it's gonna be real interesting i still i'd love to know how many episodes is in this order because that would help me it seems like it would be eight or ten just because of how slow they're going about developing the characters and the storyline and i don't say slow is a bad thing i really like how they're doing it. I thought the first episode, they let us know what this entire show was going to be about. Me too.

And I've watched it about three times now. Slow as in versus the last show I watched was Undoing. And that was a lot more just fast paced, I think. This is Wikipedia. It has it listed for nine episodes. I don't know if that's true or not. Nine sounds like an odd number.

I read 10 or 11, something like that. I've never heard of nine. Well, it kind of is, kind of isn't. If you get people to subscribe, Brian was putting me onto this. If you get people to subscribe for just this show, then they have to buy one month for one episode. Really?

I never thought about that. I see that strategy. Say that one more time So if you buy Just for this show If people subscribe Just for this show right There's four episodes a month

Yeah They would have to buy A third month To get the ninth episode Oh the ninth episode I didn't hear that one Oh that's like What my guys did with

That's good That's that show on YouTube Or we can watch it on Flex They gave it to us Free on YouTube And then like the finale You had to pay for it Yeah

That was a great idea Like let you watch The whole season And then the last episode Was like Yeah you gotta pay on YouTube and then like the finale you had to pay for it. Yeah. That was a great idea. Like let you watch the whole season and then the last episode was like, yeah, you got to pay this. Do we have any predictions without spoiling?

Keisha Cole's going to mop the floor with it. Stop. Stop. Cut it out. I'm kidding. Comedy style. I have been watching TV

wondering where everyone's masks are and it's starting to annoy me. I'm annoying myself. I see scenes watching TV wondering where everyone's masks are and it's starting to annoy, I'm annoying myself. I see scenes like, wow, that's a lot of people together. I have a feeling this was probably filmed pre-pandemic. For sure.

If I could guess. Absolutely. Absolutely. I don't really have much predictions the way I did with the undoing. None to predict. The idiot left his asthma pump at the crime scene.

All right, they found it. You're going to die. The end. He was also carrying the phone to the gas station, which he's on camera as. The phone was in his hand for a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be rough. I think the son is going to, because he already said that he can't.

He feels bad. Yeah. And then him standing there at the desk when his father walked in the courtroom. You could just tell, like, all right, he's not going to be able to keep up with this. But it's so much bigger shit happening around it. It's not even, like, who did it. It's, like, officials are involved in this. And I think that's where the storyline is.

It's in the police chief. All these people that are actually involved in setting this kid up. And the racist undertones. Absolutely. The real undertones. Yeah. The shit that really happens. Yeah.

No, it's a lot of what The Wire did about connecting the police, mayor, and street shit and how all those things are literally just a cycle together.

It would be connected if I asked the mayor to get rid of the car for me and they find it. You had one job. Police chief. Whoever he was. Not only was he chief, but he was high in the police ranks. Whatever he was, that car should have been out of here,

buddy. No, but that's what he... He fucked it up, though. That's what the judge thought he was going to do. He said, get rid of it. He thought that he was going to have it. You know what I mean? And not only that, the kid was headed to the junkyard. Right. Because remember, the cop said that the GPS on his kid was headed to the junkyard. Right. Because remember, the cop said that the GPS on his phone

was headed to the junkyard. So he was on his way there. Somewhere along the way, I guess somebody... Well, no, because he went to the cop, the cop lady, his friend,

the judge did, and told an elaborate story about the car being stolen. So then she put her shoes on. Spoiler alert for everybody. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's the word. Back to the more racial undertones.

They said on the little speaker thing he ran a red light and he didn't, they just pulled him over and then they found out it was stolen. Right.

So yeah, they just pulled the kid over for the fuck of it. Great show. Yeah, really good show. Can't wait for the next episode of Sunday. Bryan Cranston is trying his best

not to do the best Walter White panic face in certain cases, so I can appreciate that, but I am catching a lot of Walter when things get a little crazy. I like that part, though. I like it a little.

It's like a little throwback. That's gotta be tough for actors when you become super famous for this one role and not just him for the rest of your life. Yeah. I don't see Walter White the whole time, but when he was trying to clean shit,

I saw the Walter White face. Absolutely. Oh, that's just the normal white man panic face. That's what I look like when I drop a beer. We'll already spot that face.

That's the same way Parks looks when what's-his-name and the shit crashes. He'd be like, oh my God. Just reboot it. It's okay.

Any other shows y'all watching I started watching the Flight Attendant on HBO it's kind of good but you know I'm enjoying it

I watched the first two episodes of Manhunt the Atlanta Bomber on Netflix I gotta watch that real good that seems like a really

really good show so far so I started watching that and Snowfall's coming back in a few months so I saw that yeah you know hopefully with your honor and and Snowfall's coming back in a few months. I saw that, yeah. You know, hopefully,

hopefully, with Your Honor and it's another show that's coming out, I think in January, another season. What is Manhunt about, though?

It's about the security guard at the 96 Olympics in Atlanta where the bomb went off and maybe they tried to paint him

as the suspect originally. This was a movie, no? Recently? It could have been. Yeah, him as the suspect originally. This was a movie, no? Recently? It could have been. Yeah, I think it was a movie

This was a popular story but the first two episodes are great. I can see that this is going to be a really, really good series. I was, I wasn't sold on it

until I saw Angela from Who's the Boss. Yeah. When she's in something. Yeah. She don't come outside. Yeah outside yeah so she come outside it's for a reason yeah exactly and she gives me that the same effect we were talking about donald sutherland having and undoing when she shows up it's like white lady version of it it's like

his body's buried somewhere and she knows yeah So real good show, Manhunter. I was glad Netflix put some new shit out there that wasn't in Britain. Let's see, what else? What else, what else, what else? I watched a good, a good bad movie or a bad good movie,

but that's my thing when I'm in the house. I like to find bad movies that I can laugh at and make it good. Honest Disbelief. Honest disbelief. That already sounds bad. It's bad.

And it's Liam Nielsen again playing the same role that they forced him into just playing for the rest of his life. And I watch it. Which we were discussing. I can appreciate someone that just accepts, all right, this is who I'm going to be. This is who I am, yeah. And I'm just going to be that for every movie now and continue my career. Yep. I got to watch the-

I'm not going to fight it and try to do some serious movie. I got to watch the Reagan documentary on Showtime. That's something I've been meaning to watch. Reagan doc on Showtime? Correct. What's the name of it? I think it's called Reagan. Reagan?

I believe so, yeah. I want to see that. Yeah, I want to catch it. And there's another movie that came out. I think it's called Monsters of Man or Or Man I only saw it when I was scrolling

and it was about damn this Reagan shit does look good damn this shit looks good I wonder if they're going to tell the truth yeah right with Reagan

I wonder that's how this is how it felt it felt like they were really like felt truthful exposing that means they didn how this is how it felt it felt like they were really like felt truthful exposing that means they didn't

this is out yeah look it's showtime showtime's trying to come up let's go showtime let's go Desus and Meryl Reagan and Desus yeah man

bringing the culture where it need to be dope I am gonna watch this and I don't remember the monsters of man shit so when I go home and watch it. And I don't remember the Monsters of Man shit, so when I go home and watch it, I'll tell you about it on Saturday. Okay.

I got a versus question for you guys. I was talking to Soulja Boy in the chatty house, Big Soulja. Hope you paid your respects. They would talk. I did. Cool.

I did, immediately. Immediately identified myself as Lil Bro. Good, good, good. I'm glad, I'm glad. As you should. Is it? You just glad?

Fuck you, Rory. I'm scared, Big Draco. I do like that about Chatty House. I do like to see men greet other men and how men act around other men. It's one of my favorite things to watch as a man. How men greet other men? Yeah, how men greet other men, how men act around other men, certain men, men with a certain amount of respect.

I like looking at stuff like that. Okay. And I had no idea that women were judging us off big and little bro-ing. Like, they don't want to fuck niggas that's little bros. Like, the niggas that's immediately identifying big bro, it's like a turn off for them. But they run around,

they run around little sissing and big sissing and it's fine. It's true. They do. But it's cool. So I immediately identified... So chicks don't want to fuck the little bros,

but they the little hoes? Little hoes. Big hoes and little hoes. We do know that, right? Definitely little hoes, yeah. We have this really bad habit on this podcast of when we attempt to talk about women we immediately immediately go to the hoes i'm trying to break us out of it i mean don't mean but we were in that type of conversation we knew what we were talking about we're not talking about all women talking about the ho hose it's a difference but anyway go ahead what you what do you think soldier boy should match up with they were talking about

bow wow sonically I didn't want to hear that but I understand why they did that who soldier boy should match up within a battle yeah think about that for a little bit cuz soldier boy was ahead of his time so that might be a tough matchup to figure out who plays but back to our back to our last podcast, I said that Cam might have a hard time with Beans. I'm going to pick Cam in that hypothetical battle now. I went back and did the science on that one. You're going to pick Cam, you said? I'm picking Cam against Beans.

I got to think about that. The only New York artist that I feel like handles Cam easily outside of the GOAT conversation is probably Kiss. Kiss is a monster. He has too many that you're just not going to. We saw on the Fab shit. He was winning with freestyles, bro. Too much to pull from.

Kiss should have had a different opponent. Kiss should have had a Beans or a Cam. No disrespect to Fab.. No disrespect. Of course not. Of course no disrespect. But Rory and Maul, y'all got to talking about your hypothetical verses and for the listeners, the last time they did this was, who did y'all do?

Mixtape Fab versus Mixtape Banks. Mixtape Fab versus Mixtape Banks. Wayne. Wayne. I don't know why Maul took that battle, but okay. Rory won that hands down pretty easily. They killed Maul for his selection in that battle. Yeah. And now Maul is back.

Might have to do part two. We're getting shut down again. Got to give the streets what they want. They don't want this. You talk to the streets? Yeah. I just got the phone with them. Maul says no way that Mace is beating...

Maul says no way Cam is beating Mace in the versus. Yeah, no, I'm going with Mace. I think I'm going with Cam. I'm taking Cam. Rory's going with Cam, and I think Parks is going with Cam. I'm going with Cam. I think it's a really good battle. I think Mace has the bigger records,

but I think Cam in that 20 does more damage. Okay. Maul, can your selection for this battle be better than it was the last time? Honestly. Can you fuck up a Mace? Because they killed you.

Can you fuck up a Mace? Do you have Mace's catalog? I'm just saying. You have Double Up? Absolutely. The Freestyles? Absolutely. Harlem World?

Absolutely. Okay. Baby Stace debut? Yes. Got it. Got all that. What's that happen? Do you have I Don't Know Officer off the Get Rich or Die Trying soundtrack?

It's somewhere in there. When are you guys doing this? We didn't get into dates yet. Yeah, no. We just talked about it. But we're going to do it though. All right, good. I'd like to do it soon.

I just have to look at my schedule of staying inside. Your schedule? Have your assistant look it over. Yeah. No. I just have to look at my schedule of staying inside. Your schedule? Have your assistant look it over? Yeah. No. I'll have my people talk to your people. Yeah, that's because I think a lot of people really don't know Mase's music and his catalog like that. Yes, they do.

I don't think they do. They know a lot of hits. They know. They hit. I'm talking about just his cat, things he's written. No, I don't think so either. That may be true, but. You know what I'm saying? I his cat things he's written no I don't think so either that may be true but you know what I'm saying

like that's to me but that's why I love this Versus shit because I think that's what it does for artists it's such a huge platform it shows people

like it's not just the records you know if they come out the house I am gonna have to if they come out the house I'm gonna have to implement some rules if it don't have to be postponed

yes if they don't go on a hugging spree. Right. Well, actually, Mo, would you like to do this versus in the same room and maybe we perform

the records? That would be hilarious. That would be fucking hilarious. That would be dope. Right? That would be dope. Y'all should be in the same room. Yeah, let's do that.

I'll pay to see that somewhere. That's just funnier. I'm laughing already. But yeah, let's do that. Well, Inier i'm laughing already but yeah let's do that well i have a handicap because one of the bigger words in hip-hop i do you can't read no i can rap i just can't read what's the handicap you can't say nigga yeah it's a huge handicap in cams get rid of it get rid of the handicap right now make it even this is us. It's okay now. You can say it. Got you. You're just quoting him. Yeah, you're quoting him.

That's all. And I quote. And I quote. Starting every verse out. And I quote. These are Cam's words, not mine. Exactly. Listen, we'll touch on this.

Keep us posted on when you're up and out. No, we're serious. We just have to figure it out. And actually, I don't mind doing it in the same room for sound purposes, not actually us rapping and performing. Same room. Let's do out. And actually, I don't mind doing it in the same room for sound purposes, not actually us wrapping a performance. Same room. Let's do it. Yeah, I think that would be good.

There was much to do about academics joining the chatty house. Nadeska set him up for the 187. Listen, man, if he would have called me, I probably would have told him how that might have went. Yeah. But he had no idea. He was none the wiser. And that made for everyone's entertainment that night.

So what happened? Ag joined Chatty House. He got on Chatty House and had to face the council, the Chatty House council. He had to go back and forth with Wap Dad. 21 Savage and you? No, 21. No, I wasn't in there as me. You got a burner? Yeah, I wasn't in there as me. You got a burner?

You got a burner chatty? Yeah, Jake was in there. Jake button? Yeah, niggas didn't call Jake to the stage at all. Very different. I liked it. Jakey B? Yeah, Jake Button. Yeah, niggas didn't call Jake to the stage at all. Very different. I liked it. Jakey B. Yeah, Jakey B. Yeah, so Jake was in there checking it out.

Ak went back and forth with Guap Dad. They spoke to each other like they wanted to fight each other. Shout out to Guap Dad. I like Guap Dad. I like him, too. And there's a boxing match coming up soon between them two. Ak didn't back down from that challenge. Meek stepped in there. Him and Ak went back and forth a little bit.

That made his rounds throughout the internet because you guys are recording Chatty House conversations without consent. Of course, sir. Against the rules. I can't believe you thought that wasn't going to happen. Yeah, I don't understand why you niggas just get to talking on this Chatty House shit

as if fans are not taping and selling the blogs. Like, y'all are crazy, but Meek came in there, did a back and forth with Ak attempted to explain his position uh excuse me all of this appeared to be moderated by 21 savage who solidified his spot as one of the greatest hip-hop uh mediators of all time and And the conversation was based around... You all right there, buddy? Excuse me, indigestion.

The conversation was based around, I guess, exposition and not only the culture, but street-esque, street-ish shit. That's what I got. And this was hours long, and that's what happened. Sorry I missed it.

So you missed it. You weren't in there on your burner. Rory wasn't in there. Maul wasn't in there. No. Hell no. Never on that shit. Did you guys at least hear about this? I've heard about it, yeah. I saw people on the timeline talking about it. I haven't really fallen in love with Chathouse, man. I hate it. I hate Chathouse. I'm not gonna lie.

The rooms are getting a little too big yeah too many people talking it needs a mediator from what i heard 21 was a great one in this one and that he should be like a couple counselor but uh shout out to 21 but yeah i the rooms are getting too large for me yeah i just don't want to hear each other i don't want to yes that's good i just don't want to hear none of these dudes talking like i it just feels like i'm on the phone with them and i'm like i don't want to hear none of these dudes talking. It just feels like I'm on the phone with them, and I don't want to hear this dude talk. I'm like talking on the phone. Yeah, like get off my phone. That's just how I feel with a lot of this shit.

But I understand it. I understand the craze and the hype and everybody getting on it. Every day, it's more and more celebrities joining. I get all of that, but I'm going to pass on this one. All right, so you guys don't necessarily have a take on Ack versus Chatty House or Ack versus industry. No. No.

I don't care about anything that dude does. Well, it was a hot room. It was 5,000 people in there. People couldn't get in the room. I get it. It heated up rather fast, and the talks were intense. Yeah. I'll say that.

At some point, Tory Lanez came there as well and had discourse with ak and how did ak do uh i have to imagine he was the one being attacked the entire time yes how did he do if you're asking me i thought he handled himself well okay better than i would have imagined in such a angry hostile environment but when you're talking on the phone i was gonna say like ak is used're talking on the phone, like, Ak is used to talking on the phone and talking to the camera

and talking to people without actually having to talk to people. So I imagine that he would have been okay there. But when he has to be the one, when the whole, the industry targeting him is like a different, I don't know,

I have a real, I have really different takes on all of that. I won't share them publicly, but people are powerful when you make them powerful. Sure. And I'll say that. Shit is crazy. That shit ended with all them niggas laughing and joking,

and I was confused. Well, I was just about to ask. I was super confused. I think I know the answer to it. Super confused. Was anything resolved or answer all your niggas is clout chasey now you niggas that's in the niggas that was in that room because Jake was in that room it's a lot it's a lot of clout chasey shit going it's a lot of niggas that hate act but want to be in his good graces it's

confusing it's confusing like when I hate a nigga, I hate him. Who wants to be in his good graces? A lot of people do. I would imagine up and coming artists would like to be in his good graces. Sure. I'd imagine some established artists would like to be in his good graces.

It's true. Hip hop has turned into something else, man. I don't know what's going on. Turning into now or already started? I said it's turned into something else. Okay. Yeah.

Got it. I don't understand. All right. And that's my... That's turned into something else. Yeah. Got it. I don't understand. All right. And that's all I got there. What a deep dive. Didn't hear it. Hardest topic of the week in hour three. Got nothing for you.

Very little detail. Ta-da! Is there anything else happening right this second that we need to discuss? Is there any breaking news? Oh, wait a minute. We got breaking news. Breaking, breaking, breaking. You bitches are ruining the giraffe hotel.

What? What's that? Oh, overseas? Oh, my God. I think it's in Ghana. it's in africa it's somewhere but man if i see and let me shut up because then they're gonna paint me as the grumpy internet guy again and i do want to go to the giraffe hotel i'm just mad that all the girls are going there taking pictures just like that little mountain that arctic shit where it's i've memorized all

the pictures that women take from all over the world that look touristy. Well, are there giraffes? Even though somebody died off that little, wherever that little rock, was that Australia or somewhere? Wherever that rock is where it's a big-ass waterfall and nothing but mountains behind you. No, William, no! Oh, I didn't mean to do that. We're all straight. Yeah, somebody fell and died at that place while their husband and their two kids watched. Is that the one where they show people hanging on the edge of the cliff?

Yes. Okay. Yes. I know that one. Okay. Then there's the other one with the slide-out pool. There's a bunch of them out there, but y'all are killing me with the giraffe hotel shit. Is there any other breaking news?

I'm asking, is there giraffes at the- Yeah, right there. Oh, that's fire. I'm not killing anyone for going there. No, it is fire. I want to meet giraffes. It's overdone. Look at that. what does it mean

what a beauty such a majestic animal look at Jeffrey see look now I'm not trying to eat breakfast and the giraffe stick his neck in

and eat my breakfast I mean what's he want chicks love anything you can Instagram I want to eat my breakfast I was in do you smell like the coleslaw

because you can have that when I was in Aruba I love coleslaw they had had all the iguanas and shit that would just chill around the breakfast area. And for the first day, I was like, oh, this is dope. Feed them a little bit. I can chill the iguanas. By day three, it's like, get this fucking mini Godzilla away from me. I'm not giving it any more bacon. Get the fuck away from me.

Yeah, no. Definitely not feeding no iguanas or giraffes. Not on this vacation, but not how much I pay for, no. Definitely not feeding no iguanas or giraffes. Not on this vacation, but not how much I pay for this shit. I'm feeding myself. Drake and French have been photographed in Turks. Does that mean we're getting the annual Drake and French record? Are you nervous?

Anytime they link up. That was pretty funny, Roy. I hope they're doing music together. They have a pretty good track record. They have a great track record. Drake, put the album out, man. It's time. Also, that Drake vs. Puff thing was probably one of my favorite beefs this decade.

That was a pretty good one. The silent beefs. It's crazy how quiet they kept that one, even though it wasn't that quiet. But what it was, it was quiet. All you self-promoters are janky. We're established like the Yankees. Hey guys, Aubrey's good.

You know why? Aubrey's good. You in a disadvantage when Drake start his shit talking to you though. He's pretty good at it. Yeah, because it's like you know it's valid. You know what I mean? you know it's is valid you know i mean so it's like you know it's valid it's valid what you gonna say well self-promoters are janky that's that now that's the truth that's the truth

all right that's it that's all i got i have nothing else to report oh whoa whoa whoa slow down slow down slow down, slow down. I just said stop, stop, stop, stop. Relax. You're too hyped. Too hyped to play Sleeper. Relax. Is there anything else that the culture needs us to speak about? No, right? Excuse me?

I spoke about it already. I think that was the first thing we spoke about if you were really doing the timestamps. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Since there's nothing else to talk about, let me go ahead and get on out of here. This Reagan shit does look real good, Parks. Thank you for that recommendation. Thank you. I'm the type of nigga to brag, my lady got it all Ayy, yeah, she poppin', but never poppin' on

She got them boozy to top it off That's the type of nigga to brag, lil' baby got it all Am I wrong or just wanna show you off? Ayy, when you ride a chopper, you chop it soft You tell whoever trippin', you decide to make me bossa I been coolin', but you movin' with some hot stuff I just blow it, it don't matter what it cost up Baby, bring it to the table like a pileup

And they be tellin' me it's not love But I don't know who they speakin' on, it's not us You can't tell me what you got, it's not just Cause I'm addicted, keep me comin', let me cop up And girl, you got me locked up They won't let me out Dealing with these bitches, they just stress me out You the one I wanna come and bless me now Right now, like, right now, like

Not the type of nigga to brag, my lady got it all Yeah, she poppin', but never poppin' off Plus, she bad and bougie to top it off Tell whoever trippin', they can knock it off Not the type of nigga to brag, lil' baby got it all, yeah And by wrong I just wanna show you off What he ride, I chop it, the top is off So tell whoever trippin' they can knock it off Don't talk, just pay attention Even good girls gotta pay commission

Word on the street is that you got it all I wanna press every button till you turn back Join in my mouth for the look, baby I'm the type you read about in the newspaper I'm the type to take you out in the new Mercedes Windows down, music loud, I was born to make it I slide right in if her sheets are satin Talks still cheap, I'm about those actions Real satisfaction, truth of passion She look good in high heels, open toes, air maxes I'm not I'm the type of nigga to brag, my lady got it all

Yeah, she poppin' but never poppin' off Plus she bad and bougie to top it off Tell whoever trippin' they can knock it off I'm the type of nigga to brag, my lady got it all Am I wrong or just wanna show you off? When you bout to chop it, the top is off So tell whoever trippin' they can knock it off Oh yeah Brand new music, that's Blast featuring Dom Kennedy That's off Blast's Deluxe album No Love Lost, the Deluxe version

In your phone right this very second Shout out to Blast, man Dom Kennedy Still getting fly Another verses no love lost first no love lost mmm you don't want it classic album I play some barefoot shit this is um unusual demand amber if it'll play any day now internet Basley I mean bro you gotta get your dog some dick

she's fixed I can't tell I told her I'm the one I told her I'm the one But I just wanted fun I just wanted fun Now I'm the one But I just wanted fun Now I'm spending all my funds But I'll be on the run And please forgive me For what I have become See, I held on for months But there's no summer sun And you need me more

I can't adore the way you feel for me I leave you bored for the last time more I wish I left you be I told her baby don't you try and chase me You'll do so much better, better, better I told her baby girl you need to thank me You'll do so much better, better, better She told me she want love So I gave her a buzz So I gave her a buzz Now who am I to judge When someone shows me up And please don't leave me When I do find the one

This happen more than once It's happened more than once That's why I felt so numb I'm not the one When you need me more I can't hurt or The way you feel for me I need you for five times no more

I need you for five times no more I need you for five times no more I wish I left you be I wish I left you be It's unusual to my Amber It's in your phone now Dope Play that while you clean the crib Alright

I'ma play a joint man My guy in the National Furb And kinda keep me in tune With everything that's going on Over in the UK In the UK scene I like this kid He put me on to

I don't wanna say kid He's a grown man But his name is Digger D. I fuck with digger D talking that talk on this one. This is daily Duffy Yo, look Fresh on, still using a kettle to whip this fish, ain't nothing like tuna Would've been more than meddling kids if Kruger taught me to whip up sooner I don't trap with melanin kids, the rumour This diggity is a groomer, just mixed 252 with 60 The boy ass just rang for a tuna And that's actually factual

Parrots full with oil, in gel, mixed up with mackerel It felt amusing for you when big man Joe man brought my capsule capsules Should've been at school, he left that place when cats would why we Also drugs this natural I just got released no more setting buddies or hearing the girls with keys and I can rest in peace Just like my people is her on for us to eat pork But in her on for them to get bacon don't get cooked or shaving I've been in the field like Nico Bellick Royale man like Jacob Don't get chopped like Franklin's docker

Your soul might just get taken Not green but gold My opps are broke Dead ballers it's blatant We got a CJ from Groves World but we ain't in San Andreas Jojo got it all played He even got his provisional license Watch me rip this gang and his head back Jerk pin drop that's nothing but silence Five guys step on violence GBKK get bun, no Byrons My young boys do what I say, I'm Simon, charged up and vibrant We ain't sharing a drink when I let that sky, which is head back tilt

They had my man cold outside, had to cover that kid in a quilt She like me and her droop got spilt, I lost no sleep, I don't feel no guilt Ah shit, she need some milk, case dismissed before it got built I got a dotty off one of my EastEnders But the son of a gun's not Nick The queen that I want ain't Vic But I still made that on the square like Mick My little sh** is in his prime time if I send him now TV at six

Like how's he got so much talk on the net Like he ain't been touched with the flicks Old school days never had me a rollie I bought that aqua fresh I told her I want all Rubina She's all on me and she's making a mess She said that it's big for a slender Easy I'm tender

Though undressed Dressed, ejaculate And I'm awful polite That's Diggity Shout out to International Fergman Put me on a lot of those dope UK sound UK artists over there Can't wait for us to go over there

And tap in with that Yeah, I like a lot more UK rap Than I ever did And actually Joe's last show We went over there And got put on to a lot of UK hip hop That was really dope Yeah, nah nah that's dope

I dig it I like him I'm watching him Sounded good Yeah I'm gonna play some me This is Home for Christmas

The intro Of the new album Get your shit on Park Get your stuff Go get that Go stream that Go stream that

Thank you DSP's everywhere One of these days It sounds shit It's close to me It's Park It's close to me It's far from me It's close!

Yeah we back nigga We back Keep rapping Uh, I'm from that back black home on a raid Where niggas is trippy, whipping up Matthew McConaughey I'm talking off white, these niggas never heard of Virgin OG still in the fans, won't call it, send me to Mercu Niggas, it's grown Fuck all that black on black beef Whoever tried, won't survive it, they mama a lack sleep

Tired, but I'm the GOAT Surrounded by this black shit In that black Jeep Chopper under the backseat They want that gully tuck Not that buddy-buddy talk It's quiet, I ain't speakin', I pull up to hear the money talk I am too fly to be treated like the new guy I just saw the job below me, yeah, that bar set too high She decided she gon' blow me, I said, cast another two times She postin' all her poses, fashion over, I'm like, goodbye

Girlfriend got a girlfriend, bubble blowin' on my two-like Birthday candles, both got the cake cake I might eat it too late I'm dreaming tonight of a place I love Even more than I usually do I'll be home for Christmas You can count on me Snow angels on the counter in their dirty aprons You said this shit was garbage when it came So you ain't step on it, you got it bad, you usher in I'm still gon' zip that bitch up like some Gary Payton Lately my pockets been a topper

You know broke niggas like to gossip You better stop it When the shots come you better block it You better be a lot juan with the rock Whip it with the wrist and the shoulder I ain't Spirit Graham, I ain't Goldberg I ain't whoopie, I don't fake none, no sir I want all blue hundreds and a whole bird

But I don't even ask the price if when you break it it don't shine like accurate lights you know I'm God you know I touch it bring it back to life

you know the first ounce is always the sacrifice that is me and Giff home for Christmas featuring Stove God Cups Stove God be talking no doubt shout out to Stove God

rookie of the year for sure is he a rookie though? this is his first album Home for Christmas featuring Stove God Cooks. Stove God be talking. No doubt. Shout out to Stove God. Rookie of the year for sure. Is he a rookie though? This is his first album, I think. First album, yeah. I wouldn't call him a rookie though. Well, no, I mean he's not. He hasn't put out a lot of material before this. I got you.

I fuck with him. I like that dude a lot. His album's crazy. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Gangsta, gangsta Great pod, great pod Mic check, one, two, one, two Mic check, mic check, mic check

One, two, one, two Say it for everybody Everybody ain't gonna understand When I sleep I dream up Bodies and streams of blood Naked bitches Dead niggas ghost As you're toast

Knocking my door down Sweat pour down My body roast from the heat, so I soak my sheets Wake up shiverin', put my hoe close to me She sexy every night, it's different pussy Since my girl left me in the club Again, shout out to Puff, congratulations And her friends are cutthroats, they deep go through late

The other night, man, when I was, uh Makin' a few calls, tryin' to see what was goin' on For New Year's Eve, I hit Puff He didn't tell me nothin' He didn't tell me nothin' It was quiet Yeah, it was quiet Made me feel like he didn't want me there

But I'm coming Whatever it is, I'm coming Seeing D-Nice on the chatty house Thought I would get some inside intel Yo, D, what you doing? He's like, yo, I'm just gonna do club quarantine on Instagram Like, fam, fam, fam That's not what I'm here for I'm gonna go get a huge bag Not. Like, fam, fam, fam, fam, that's not what I'm here for.

I'm gonna go get a huge bag. Not what I was looking for. Yeah, that's the party left out. Yo, niggas is getting big bags in the 2021. I see y'all. Now it's how do we survive all this mess? And I want in. When words became flesh, a whole pound

of herb on the tray bag gets sold in the park mall once in. This Africa bravado is death, but a lot of herb won't do Trey Bagg gets sold in a park mall once in This Africa Bombada was death, but a lot of respect Niggas throwing a day party anywhere, Rory wants in Hands are crabbed flat, hands are crabbed turner Right about the back, screaming, sell it to Merrimack Tell me if you feel like I'm on Joe Hooker, shout out to him

They're not feeling me yet, they're not feeling me yet Joe Hooker, shout out to him. They're not feeling me yet. They're not feeling me yet. A big part of that puff sauce, too, is Hov attempting to steal it for a portion of his career. No disrespect, Hov. You know I love you. Oh, man. How can we cut this off on beat? Ha!

Oh, man. can we cut this off on beat? Oh, man. Thank the day ones and the last days for listening. Thank you to Cash App. Thank you to everybody out there that rocked. Hey. What's up, Bazley? You wasn't outside for this. I want it all. No lie. Hey.

Hope you all enjoyed the pod. Real good podcast this week, gentlemen. Yeah, enjoyed it. Real good podcast. Everybody enjoy their week. Never happen, never occur. Wait a minute! Are you fuck with Hov?

Huh? You fuck with Hov? Who, me? Yeah. I do. Oh. I'm dick riding it? I found a Hov verse in our Puff tribute.

What part of the New our puff tribute. Nothing. Mall ain't going to do nothing, but be proud to be from New York City. That's what you're going to do. Yo, the Cam'ron, welcome to Rockefeller Party in limelight. Oh my God. Whenever that was,

it went up. It went up. Listen, I want to thank all y'all for listening out there. We'll be back same time, same place, Saturday. You know the vibes.

Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you adieu. Farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, so long, goodbye, peace, deuces,

100, whatever you choose to say. Remember, life is a series of moments. Oh, hold up. I'm talking to you, screaming at the top of my lungs, you fucking with who? Picture me not being that hustler, dude. Picture the Benz of five and the 12. Why is Hov trying to kill Puff? Nigga, if you don't take your rapping ass home.

I'm not new. Picture the watch ain't platinum, the rock's not blue. You home. I got you. Picture the YG Platinum. The rock's not blue. You can't even picture it. I'm not knowing how I do. Picture me. Better yet, picture you. Paying a better picture than the one that I do.

Don't tell me to picture me for 16 bars and then say, you know what? Picture you, loser nigga. All right, we out of here, man. Keep us... Oh, I did that already. Life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.

Advertisers, call in, man. We need money. We'll put your shit right here. Until then, we getting out of here. Subscribe to the YouTube. We'll be back Saturday. Best podcast in the world. You know the vibe.

Talk from here. When you felt you done it all. When we used to get you high, don't get in the world You know the vibe Keep your heat on 90 Huh? Keep your heat on 90 Niggas be going home To snuggle up with themselves Oh, hold on, hold on Alright, hold on

You know when they pull a record back Yeah, what is he doing, man? Some vocals on top of that Hold up, wait Stop the tape You gotta relax Go home Alright, we out he doing, man? Some cocos on top of that. Hold up. Wait. Stop the tape. You got to relax. Go home. All right, we out of here, man.

We'll see y'all on Saturday. Let me hit this drop so y'all know what time it is. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no