The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 418 | "Hustle and Flow"

Episode Date: February 24, 2021

Joe and the guys kick things off by exploring how well Mal knows Rory (3:31) and sharing their individual introductions to Hip Hop in light of the JBP’s 6th Year Anniversary (22:32). They celebrate Bobby Shmurda coming home (34:40) and share predictions over his upcoming music (45:45). Vanessa Bryant calls out Meek Mill for his insensitive lyrics over Kobe Bryant’s helicopter accident (55:05), and Jay-Z signs a partnership with Moët Hennessy buying a 50% share in his champagne brand (1:08:45). The guys discuss the Migos and Bobby Shmurda’s relationship (1:46:23) and Cam’ron promoting his new product, “Pink Horse Power,” an organic supplement for men that improves sexual stamina and libido (2:14:14). A Kevin Samuels discussion (2:17:31), Bryson Tiller’s new album (2:25:15), planning trips, and MORE! For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Ambré - “eternal sunshine” (Ft. G-Eazy & BJ the Chicago Kid)  Rory | MIKNNA - “Heartbreak Highway” Mal | Moneybagg Yo - “Time Today”  Parks | Fred the Godson - “One of These Days” (Ft. Guap Sinatra & Bandz Dinero)

Purdue. Like, y'all niggas gotta start talking about that. That's all I'm saying. I don't feel the safest right now. What? Because you just brought up little Purdue. I feel uncomfortable. You think Maul is attacking you?

I feel a little intimidated. I don't, I can't trust what Maul's next action will be in this space. No, hit me. I'm HR. What happened? It's a little. Let's talk about it. What happened? So what happens when HR is wild?

Talk to HR. Who's HR for HR? That's true. Who's HR for HR? Yeah. My song. Fair. He's got a point.

Is Maul officially... Is that an official title that he is now the HR I've seen my nigga Mike's song on Love and Hip Hop Reunion shit last night He was in his bag

He was on there Mike's song He wasn't on that show No they had It was a segment where He had a Civil rights segment On Love and Hip Hop

Yeah Tamika Mallory And what's her name That's when you tuned in I just I happened to be Turning the channel And I see Mike's Coming out with the mic.

He was, I was like, right there. I was like, okay, Mike's, get your shit off. That shit was interesting though.

I like what they did with that. Bringing everybody from the different cast together. That was cool. That's it. It was cool. You think maybe you'll do it one day?

Love and hip hop? Yeah. No. You did it already. That is true. You're already. I didn't do it. I was on there, but I didn't do it. You did it a few times. You did it already. That is true. You're already. I didn't do it. I was on there, but I didn't do it.

You were on there a few times. You did it. I didn't do it. A few episodes, though. I didn't do it. A few of them, though. I seen you. Yeah.

About two. Two three-minute clips. You were a reoccurring guest. Twice. More. Maybe more would be a pretty good HR. Oh, I thought you were going to say be great for Love and Hip Hop. I promise, though.

It's all problems. Well, he was already great on Love and Hip Hop. I promise so. I'll solve problems. Well, he was already great on Love & Hip Hop. Yeah, I'll solve problems. Maybe he'd be a great HR guy. Yeah, I would. I think I would. I think there might be a law against... I don't think my friend can be HR. Why?

Because that's systemic. Are we just going to jump in and say that Maul would be a great HR person? Yeah. I don't know if... What does? Yeah. I don't know if... What does HR do? Solve problems. I don't know if you have the sensitivity. If someone came with a problem, I can see you saying, like, yo, stop bitching up. Come on.

That's crazy. Go back to work. I mean, if it calls for that. Maul's super sensitive. That's why he does all this cool shit so nobody knows. I'm super sensitive. Why you say that? You feel things.

I'm human. Of course I feel things. So then what do you mean? But you said I'm super sensitive. Yeah. not super sensitive super sensitive no do i feel feeling things i mean super sensitive is just like two different sizes for the tricky word there yeah well you said super sensitive it's a qualifier how can you tell if someone is is super sensitive versus just i don't know you tell me you call me They argue that they're not sensitive. I'm fucking with you.

I don't think Maul is super sensitive at all. No, I'm not super, super sensitive. That's why you can't be the HR lady. Do I feel things? Absolutely. I'm human. I have feelings. I empathize with people. We don't know each other at all. You're not a character reference for Maul. Why? I was on Love and Hip Hop once. Why wouldn't Corey be a character reference for you?

He spent two days out of the week for the last five and a half years with me. He should know some things. He should be able to tell my character a little bit. Okay. I like where we're stumbling. Do you think that- And we've gotten crazy in the 44 years. Yeah, we've went absolutely batshit crazy a few nights out.

So you think the more you know about someone is based on the time spent it helps well yeah it adds to it it helps you it helps you get a feel of the type of person somebody is how well do you think you know rory honestly i'm all just i don't know i don't know know him extremely well but i know him well enough like if somebody was to tell me certain things like yo your man rory just i like, nah, he ain't do that. Like, if it's certain crazy shit, I'm like, Rory didn't do that. I could see Rory like- Or, Rory did that shit.

Or, if it's like, okay, where was he at? Club, drinking. I said, damn, he might have- How much whiskey was involved? Yeah, I'm like, damn, he might have did it. He might have did it. Yeah, I'm about to say- I don't drink.

Because you and I, and listen, I'm trying to stay mellow this episode. Stay mellow. Shout out to Carmelo. Stay mellow. But you and I have heard some wild stories about rory and was like yeah that sound like rory oh he's a man he's a frat he's a he's college guy he's of course he's gonna have wild moments everybody has some wild moments but i'm just talking about if it's somebody to be like yo your man rory you know i'm saying he smacked this chick last night i'll be like well we did

i'm just saying you know if you see you hear certain things about people you're like no he didn't he didn't do that i have never hit a woman but that's what i'm saying if somebody was to call my phone saying y'all heard your man rory slapped some girl in the club last night there's degrees of crazy yeah i believe that there's no way he did that i would question who your man's is that yo i heard your man rory slapped somebody in a club yeah that's how it happens you know somebody called somebody called somebody like that's mall man let me You know, somebody calls somebody, calls somebody. Like, yo, that's my old man. Let me call him and see what's up.

Because all the dudes that ever called you about me, who are these dudes? Like, do I know them? Niggas that was with you? Yo, I'm next to Joe right now. He wildin'. I'm in the club. Yo, your man Joe in here going crazy. And you would believe some of those.

Absolutely. Like, where's that? Strip club? Yeah. What he had in his hand? Pineapple juice? Yeah, he was wildin'. Yeah.

You know know whenever Joe Get the whole The whole jug of pineapple He ready to go crazy But even if you do know someone People do shit in their private time That their friends Will never know about

Oh no no no One thing I never do Is when I know like you dated somebody And if the woman tells me Something about you Like intimate Like yo

He's kinda weird Like I don't ever vouch Cause I don't know what men do in their bed behind closed doors so I'm never like nah he wouldn't do

no no no no I'm talking about public settings partying hanging out with different people if they was to be like yo your man Rory

was a little aggressive with this girl last night I'd be like no he wasn't no I'm just saying because that's what happens well no he's actually sticking up for you

yeah I would be like nah Rory ain't that type of guy we'll stick up for him in Yeah, I would be like, nah, Rory ain't that type of guy. We'll stick up for him in a new example. Rory dated a white girl. I'd be like, no, he didn't. I have dated a white woman before. I don't believe it.

I don't believe it. Not for one minute, I don't believe it. Hey, receipts. What's her name? Hey, Carol. Listen, when the streets was running around saying that Rory might have had a secret family in Idaho, I couldn't confirm or deny. What were the streets was running around saying that Rory might have had a secret family in Idaho, I couldn't confirm or deny. What were the streets saying?

I didn't even tell him he had a secret family. Nah, you gotta tell him. You ain't know about the secret family? The streets was watching. The streets were telling him. The secret family in Idaho. Anyone that knows me knows I frequent Idaho very often. Big potato guy. Or they know you wouldn't frequent your second secret family.

You wouldn't visit your secret family at all. You can lead them right there. Let's define family. Secretly abandon a group of people. It's not really family. Yeah. And then Idaho.

Who cares? How well do you think you know Parks? I know Parks pretty well. I've known Parks for what? 10, 11 years? You keep going right to the time. That's interesting. That's interesting to know.

You've been roomies on tour several times. Yeah, I have a good feel for Parks. Until you changed. Yeah, I have a pretty good gauge of the type of guy. How well do you gentlemen think you know more? Pretty well. At least character-wise. Well, on the same level he's saying to the example of,

not surface stuff, but if someone were to tell me something in a public setting or how he moves around with groups of people i would know what would be true like if somebody told rory i was at the show last night in a concert going crazy like i've been at a drake show and he was not going crazy yeah we were next to uh serena williams and kd and maul didn't even blink well i still had trauma from when I fumbled the ball with Serena that time. And she was with him. Yeah, I didn't want her to recognize me. I put my hat super low. I was like, oh, man.

I don't want this woman to even recognize me right now. God, you're the birthday boy. Yeah, like, oh, birthday boy over here laughing. Ha! Birthday boy. But even looking at that, look at that. Like, I'm here to do a lot of learning and some therapy shit today. Let's do it look at all of the tapes that rory myself and maul want to never see the light of day interesting right

maul doesn't want the tape to come out of him fangirling over serena i'll put it out it is out he released it wasn't like a video i mean i put the story out. No, no, no, no, no. There's no visual of it. No, this was All-Star Week in 2001. So you locked down? This was before camera phones, I think. So you locked down? Yeah, I did. This was before camera phones. The tape of me getting punched in my face never hit the light of day.

Does it exist? I didn't think it would. Who knows? Who knows? But here's the thing with that. Of course, it's the internet and we laugh but people get punched in their face man it's a mad regular thing and not only that joe made it worse than what it probably was like i want to see the tape i love that what wait what did he just

say people get punched in their face i love that that happens yeah but no i want to see the tape i feel like the internet i feel like you made thatorse than what it was Like you getting on blog TV With a big ass sock With ice in it on your eye And your eye There's nothing wrong with your eye Like you made I think you made

Like it looked like niggas Popped on you crazy The way you was sitting there Like this I was like yo That ain't what they did To my nigga I bet if I was to see the tape

I'd be like Nigga that wasn't even that But this is where You got grazed Yeah like It didn't catch you flush But this is where No it didn't But this is where I knew Likezed yeah like he didn't catch you flush but this is where no he didn't

but this is where I knew like my brain was a little off and I'll just tell you what my thinking was at that time you told us this story before go ahead alright so

you wanted it to be kind of like your alibi or something went crazy and happened you want to see me sitting there chilling I don't know in the moment

I had the understanding that things had the potential to get crazy. Yeah, I know. I understand. Let me go to my hotel and be a victim. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I get it. I understand. I'm going to cut this camera off. Yeah, I get it. I understand. I'm going to sit here. Yeah, I understand. Yo, Joe, you look like a punk.

I am. Yeah, I am. I am right here with y'all. I'm a punk with y'all, right? But don't say that. What time is it? He was also on that camera like, yo, we should square up. Like, let's go in the bathroom, lock the door.

Whoever come out, come out. No. I was consistent in that, though. I said that on that camera. I said that in my hotel room when I was alone on YouTube and I shouldn't have said it. When Royce and Crook came up to me with Papa Woo or whoever that was at the time, I don't remember saying, hey, how do you want to solve it? That was my answer then. I want to fight. I want him and I to walk around the corner and fight.

That's how we solve it. That's always Joe's answer. I didn't know the kids were going to grab guns and just start killing everybody. So that's not... That's what I'm saying. That's not the strategy now. I'm not trying to highlight this thinking back. No, no, no. Shout out to Wu-Tang.

It's love. Niggas was young. But what I'm saying is that thinking that no no no no but it is shout out to butay yeah no that's this is love that's yes young shit niggas was young but what i'm saying is that just shows the difference in the time now yeah like for something like that to happen never went past that now it's like that type of shit happens but it's all because now somebody wants to record it it's all about embarrassing each other now yeah record it put it out let the world see it and now somebody like oh i got embarrassed in front of the world people got to see me give it up in front of the world now i got to go to the extreme guns got to be pulled out somebody got to get cut it's different yes and that's what i'm saying things back then something could have

happened little fist of cuffs conversation squash it's, it's over. But now with everything being recorded and it making its way around the world in 10 seconds, people feel embarrassed. So now they got to get there. Their ego is bruised. Now it's like, nah, I got to get my get back.

A lot of really easily bruised egos in hip hop it feels like today. Yeah. And it feels like... For whatever it's worth, it's a little sensitive ever right now. We're in a very sensitive very uh triggerable triggerable offended easily offended shout out to easily offended uh

mook and them I don't know what happened with that but shout out to them well it's my guy that's my guy shout out to biscuit what were you saying right before that because I was about to say something oh it's just I think we're in a sensitive time i think that that's even an understatement what you're saying because we've been in a sensitive time for a few years now but does it feel like it's getting even more sensitive absolutely well the thing too about the audience makes it our era the older era is people didn't want to do certain shit on cameras. People didn't want cameras around kind of in general. Now it's like people want to put some illegal shit they're doing on camera to use it, which is stupid.

It's all about the audience and proving to absolute strangers that actually don't give a fuck about you, that you're not whatever happened in the embarrassment. Back to me saying people get punched in the face all the time. When I was growing up, that happened. It wasn't a thing like, oh, my God, he got happened in the embarrassment. Back to me saying people get punched in the face all the time. When I was growing up, that happened. It wasn't a thing like, oh my God, he got punched in the face. People got punched in the face. It wasn't some dead embarrassment that they got fucking ran out the hood. Just now there's an audience and it's filmed.

You could just on your block get punched and everyone know, but now the world knows. It's cool. There are just a few small changes that i would make that would just bring back monumental size differences like if i'm in a gang right knowing this whole rico thing i just probably wouldn't tell you guys yeah and i cannot understand why that goes on like that yeah it's time for us to have a real deep conversation about gang culture and the rico law what about it i mean i got family

close friends that are gang active and affiliated with gangs you know it's in maul's contract that he can't start the pod cause he does this he gets real serious no no no but no I'm just saying like and I like this

but should I start the show start the show start the show yeah let's do it I wanna be get hyphy start the show

get hyphy you go to San Francisco one time you mean the city? the bay we don't call it San Francisco You mean the city? The Bay. We don't call it San Fran. Let's go then. Let's go then.

Brand new 7th Street featuring Chris Brown. Let's go then. Then maybe these two wrongs might make it right Don't tell nobody We ain't looking to hurt him How good that we've been I can't say no. 7 looks like she gearing up for some shit too. Yes, sir. Love when people I love get one. Honestly. I love when people that at one time it might

have looked like it was rocky they start getting together just start cracking you over the head with shit Yes sir It's a good record to break at the pool party when the sun is going down Oh man that LA pool party at the night time Night pool you don't remember I don't remember I don't remember. You don't remember. I don't remember. You don't remember.

I'm a founding member of.. He was a superstar. He was a superstar. Absolutely. Hey! We ain't looking to hurt. So good that we doing them dirty. I won't say no.

I can't say no. I'm way too horny for this. She's an attractive young lady. I didn't want to say anything scream in it's something about like women that can subtly dance

and be sexy no disrespect or respectfully please oh she's a funny show yeah love Seven Seven knows that we love her

but Seven we will not record this podcast watching you do the Salma Hayek Dust Till Dawn stomach dance Seven can do whatever she wants. Is Seven bisexual?

I don't think so. I'm always amazed at the women that we've never heard a single thing about, like a significant other or a partner. I know that's not what's important right now. Just keep that shit off the internet. Smart. I like people that could do that, man. That's a lost art.

That's fly to me. There need to be more people that that's fly for. All right, we that, man. That's a lost art. That's a lost art. That's fly to me. Yeah. There need to be more people that that's fly for. All right, we back, Seven. Come on, baby. You should be at Red Asker. Chris let her get some of that hot sauce.

I might have jumped in there and said, I love your record. Huh? Love what you're doing. Nothing. That's where we always go to in the DMs.

Love what you're doing. A little Serena moment. Yeah. I might have hopped right in the DM when. I love what you're doing. A little Serena moment. Yeah. I might have hopped right into DM when this came out. This is my jam. My jam. I just DMed Kevin Samuels that over the weekend. I love what you're doing out here, man.

You're going crazy. He's going crazy. Wait, Ferg went off too. Hold up, man. Kenny, you alone. Feeding and seeking your moans. We be in a zone. He leaving.

I creep in your home I get your jiggy up, I get you a leeks in that chrome That nigga finna go crazy, just answer your phone Yeah, I see you with your man on Rodeo Drive SMH, thinking about how I was in those thongs You know you niggas gotta pay me to play all this to the end, I ain't, I mean Shouts to Ferg And Schmur today

Absolutely So the hat The hat just touched down Uh oh The hat just touched down The hat just touched down You know what I'm saying Hat just touched down

Reverses Throw your hat Maul Come on Maul You gotta throw your hat If you got a hat on Why y'all wear Scullies today Get out Erickson Throw the What's up with y'all. If you got a hat on, why y'all wear Scullies today? Get out.

Erickson, throw the fuck. What's up with y'all? I don't have a hat. I can't show you. That's his shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah, that is. I'm out of my mind. He's on my block, nigga. And my take, he fit on him. He done dropped niggas. And trigger, baby, while he's a hot nigga. Oh, no. Told him only get busy with them clocks, nigga. Not the clean version of hot nigga.

Shot, nigga. Hey, there we go. 100 British checks till I pass out. Pass out. And shorty give me neck till I pass out. Welcome to Old Bobby's Murder. Not the clean version of hot nigga. Hey, there we go. Welcome to Old Bobby Schmurda. Hey, French is my guy, but that was the funniest thing ever when he snuck his verse out of this And it worked Everywhere every time he throws a verse of something works It wasn't right after the record came out. Like, it had been out for a while. Yeah. Nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose, nose,

So Scream A, you're telling me that in this video, prior to this, he knew the Migos. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, don't just brush that out the way. I'm asking for information. Don't ask yet. We're going to discuss that. I'm just asking for information, Joe. We brush that out the way. I'm asking for information. Don't ask yet. We're going to discuss that.

I'm just asking for information, Joe. We're going to discuss that. I'm not riled up. I'm not aggressive. I am a little scared. You would be. What's your lawyer's name again? Brandy.

You and Brandy would conjure up something. I think about it. We have some evidence. I've never come on to Rory sexually, Brandy. I don't care what he tells you on your little conference calls. That was a work text when I told him to come by.

Meet me at the bar. Brandy on Zoom like, just tell me where he touched you. Microphone check. One, two, what is just tell me where he touched you. Microphone check. One, two, what is this? The J.B.P. Boys. Bike to business. Welcome to episode 418 of the Joe Budden Podcast.

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Of course, Brother Rory is here. Parks is here. E-Rab is here. Brother Maul is here. Savanaory is here Parks is here hey ERAB is here brother mall is here say Vaughn Adon is here and Alex the great is here how is how is everyone doing how is everyone feeling good before we get to how y'all are doing shout out to the app that sponsors us enables us empowers us tolerates us greatest app in the world. Cash app. Shout out to you guys. Now, with that said,

try not to be so loud on this mic. Listening back, I'm really like, just loud. I'm going to be loud. Mellow vibes. HR did a number on you. So everyone is safe. It's a safe space though. Yes. It's nice. It's not a safe space. Yeah, because I scare Maul a lot

of the time. Like when I get aggressive, Maul gets worried. If Joe was loose with his hands, he would try to like punch you. Oh, fuck. Joe's one of those aggressive laughers. Ah! Right. That's what I hate those people. Yeah, like look at the couch.

The couch has got a broken jaw. Am I losing my – I don't think I'm losing my hands like that. Yeah, a little bit. I'm handsy. You're handsy yeah At times It's proof It's proof in the pudding Nah that was funny

Whatever happened right here With this guy Nah you were laughing With Julius Randall Yeah That was funny It wasn't that funny I mean

Well that's become Basley's little hammock She loves that little Hammock She loves it Yeah she loves it Why do you think You get to tell two black men

What's funny to them? I'll tell Rory. I'm bringing race up all month. Yeah, it's okay. I'm bringing race up all month. Hey, Bobby Shmurda came on. It's Black History Month. We here, man.

Something else happened dope for Black History Month. Jay-Z had a deal. The Hovengers got to unite. Hey. No, before we start there, time out, time out, because we do have some things that we need to get to. We got deal Hovengers gotta unite Hey No before we start there Time out Time out Because we do have some things

That we need to get to We got some Hovengers shit There are some things We need to discuss Go follow Bobby Shmurda I'm gonna say that He should have 100 million followers

On every social platform What he did Was super honorable And y'all always Honor bullshit on the internet And y'all never Honor real shit I'm mad that he only

Has a million followers And a lot of these Other clown ass Little niggas running around have all these followers who got hacked oh i don't care well he needs to have 200 million followers by the end of the week you just read your contract i'm just saying i'm putting that out there i like that i like that fuck that y'all want to follow dumb shit follow some real shit follow some honorable young niggas follow some honorable young men that's's what you do. Do that. I got to thinking, and Rory made mention before this pod started that we may have missed our

six-year anniversary, which we're men, so none of us know. But it maybe was February 18th or the 23rd. Sometime in February. Well, if it's the 23rd, it's today. It happened in February. Oh, we're right on time. We're here then. Yeah.

So our six-year anniversary. Damn, why was I bringing that up? Oh, and so I want to start this a little differently for various reasons. One, our anniversary. Two, just because I've been thinking over the weekend that six years a million people or however many people listen people have come and gone some people some people that listen may not be as familiar with us as we believe them to be right that's fair that would be natural and fair and pod land right and i was listening back to the last podcast and i listened to me and rory bicker back

and forth and it was interesting to me according to the wiki page february 18th was the day 18th we have a wikipedia page apparently i didn't know that we did parks runs it so we're not too late no right i just i just remember it was after valentine's day and all-star weekend okay right on test yeah definitely i just know it was after Valentine's Day and All-Star Weekend. Okay, right on time. Yeah, definitely. I just know it was right after that. So because there are some new listeners who may not be all the way familiar with each of us, I thought we'd start with something different aside from how you guys are doing.

Okay. I thought it would be cool if we all started with our introduction to hip-hop, our entry to hip-hop, our entry to hip-hop, and who did we need to be accepted by to enter? Who did we need to be accepted by? To enter. Hip-hop? Yeah, the entry point.

Because y'all don't speak from the observant standpoint. Each of you are inside of it. because y'all don't speak from the observant standpoint. Each of you are inside of it. So your introduction to hip hop would be different from your entry point to hip hop. And I'm assuming that you couldn't enter without being accepted by some group. That has to be a fact. Okay. For everyone, right? Yeah.

That's a little gray. Being accepted by a group is a little gray for me but okay okay so i'll use me for an example right well most group is going to be way cooler than well we don't know that's cool like i'm saying he has a cooler group no i just don't know but i don't know because hip-hop is such a free culture like i don't know if you somebody has to let you in or it's like people feel like you're genuine and you love the art you love the culture they accept you i think that he almost means and he doesn't specifically mean the business but kind of the business more of the art yeah your

slash business that's what i said that's a great statement yeah well when we talk about an entry point i use that specifically for us because we're in it and like with any entry point somebody had to let you in i can't speak for your story maybe that's my introduction to hip-hop is real simple it was a video music box and i remember the moment i like i used to always watch it with my babysitter at my babysitter's house, but the self-destruction video for me was, I think that was a moment for me

where I was like, this just seems like some super cool shit that they're doing. Like that was, as far as I can remember, that's as far back as my brain, but I remember Video Music Box,

watching Video Music Box every day. See, already his story is interesting to me because I would have just assumed that an older brother played some hip hop for more. And that would have been his introduction to hip hop. Hey, what is that? I mean, his brother is hip hop. Yeah, no, but that's what I'm. But he got it on his own. As far as I can remember, as young, yeah.

From television. It was television. It was in my babysitter's house and video music box. Which says to me that his entry point may not be what I assume it to be either. So what do you believe that to be? My entry point to hip hop? Yes. Just being old enough to start going outside with my friends by myself hanging out and then like everybody just you know somebody

had a tape somebody had something we listened to and people rapping and you know i'm saying it was like people doing tagging up on the walls graffitis like the older dudes it was like you started to see that like they gave me a tag name i started tagging them in the brim of my baseball hat when i was a little kid like to me that was my original graffiti music. So, Mo's entry point and acceptance point, which I did assume, is the same for me, which is the streets. Oh, absolutely. 1,000%. You entered via streets, and that was only allowable because they accepted your entry.

Yeah. On the block. Yeah. On the hood. Absolutely. I don't know if mine is that simple. I was never a street guy, but you guys go. My introduction was probably Snoop and Dre, 91-ish kind of hip-hop stuff.

Fat Boys, I remember early on, too. Yeah. Harkening back to what we said. Harkening again. But I probably didn't become an avid consumer until like 95, 96, Wu-Tang era. Liquid Swords was early in my mind. 36 Chambers. Nas, it was written, that was 96.

And then my entry was just the people in Elmira that were rapping. How'd you go from Elmira to Preem? I went to Chicago first. I worked at a studio in Chicago called Hinge. We did Lupe Fiasco's first two albums, Kanye West, but most of it was gospel and jazz. And then I was... And you were like an apprentice engineer?

I was an intern and then an assistant. My internship ended and I stayed there and didn't really make any money, but I was no longer an intern. And then my lease was coming up and I was still interested in moving around. So I got, I talked to Larry Gold,

who owns a studio in Philadelphia at the Roots Record at, and he's a legendary string arranger. Larry Gold, of course. And he, we kind of were talking about me moving there to work for him. But in the meantime,

my brother lived in New York. So I came to New York and fell in love with that. And the Philly thing kind of fell apart. So I stayed in Philly. Things in love with that. And the Philly thing kind of fell apart. So I stayed in Philly. Things fall apart? Yeah. Double on.

You got to be hip hop to understand that. And then I worked at a music store and I met Charles. Charles Rohn, who introduced me to Prank. Charles Rohn. Yeah. That's a cool. And you knew Charles and that's how I met you. Yeah, that's when we met.

Yeah. Parks working at. What formerly was D&D. Rest in peace, Charles. Shout out to Charles. No, that's D&D. I don't do that. I don't say formally when it ain't there. You had to be there.

It was technically headquarters. Yeah, that's true. Rest in peace headquarters. Headquarters. Yeah, rest in peace headquarters. Rest in peace studios. Yeah, for real. Rory? The thing what's what's different am i mushing this out no no i just think it's important like everybody don't know us and we get on here twice a week and we kick it as if everybody has been there and they haven't like we've grown we've expanded it's good for people to know where

where certain shit just comes from, I think. Yeah, it's a little different with me with our age gap because hip hop was kind of everywhere by the time I would have found it, more or less. So I don't have like a specific, I wish I did some specific moment where I remember watching some video and was like, what is this thing? Like hip hop existed.hop existed earliest memory it existed yeah like i remember more money more problems on the radio like going to school as like that being a big moment because my house was mostly my dad is into like blues jazz 80s rock 70s rock my mom is in a motown shit like it wasn't played in my crib i guess the radio would be it.

I think it was probably the radio going to school. And I was the youngest kid on my block. So the older kids were, I remember mob deep shit was like a big thing when I was just learning what hip hop was. So yeah, I was just the youngest kid on my block and it wasn't in my household. I had to go outside to hear it. Yeah, they didn't even play hip hop on the radio in Elmire. That wasn't even a thing. We didn't have vid box. I had to go outside to hear it. Yeah, they didn't even play hip hop on the radio in Elmire. That wasn't even a thing. We didn't have a vid box.

Like, we had BET, Rap City. Yeah. That was it. For clarity, none of our dads were around on our introduction to hip hop? No. Although I will say that my dad had like a huge vinyl collection. And when I learned that that's how they were making hip hop, it kind of made my, it was cool.

You know, because I already loved records and going through all my dad's shit. So then when I learned that that's how they were making hip hop, it kind of made my, it was cool, you know, cause I already loved, loved records and going through all my dad's shit. So then when I learned that that's how they were doing it, I was like, Oh shit, I have all these records. Yeah.

I can do that too. Got it. Got it. That makes sense. All right. I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah. Oh,

as, as for me, what was my introduction to hip hop? I had an older brother. He listened to hip hop and that's when I, that's when I, somewhere around LL, my radio, uh, somewhere around LL, my radio.

Somewhere around there. Mama Said Knock You Out was definitely an early, that was my some of the introduction music. My godbrother, he had a big ass public enemy poster in his room and we could never go in his room. And then one day I cracked the door and I just started peeking in and seeing all these dope ass posters. But I remember that

public enemy poster. And then I remember Everybody cracked the door and I just started peeking in and seeing all these dope ass posters but I remember that Public Enemy poster and then I remember that's one of the illest love rhymes of all time then I remember the self destruction video I'm like oh that's the poster that's the guys you know what I'm saying so I remember seeing all of that tying it in come on let's go D-Nice talk to him it's him

it's him think about that D-Nice produced Self Destruction and I think he might have four bars or something on there he might have I ain't producing

Self Destruction and not rapping on it sorry isn't that crazy what a great story hip hop has so many great stories as far as my entry my entry was the streets

but because it had to go through mixtapes and thugs and gangsters so yeah and my and I had to be accepted through the

streets it's almost two different entries there's entries into creating hip hop and then entry into the business slash industry of hip hop. Yeah, I guess I mean the business. Yeah, I guess I mean the business. But I mean, so much of the business, especially from the mixtape era, was from the streets. Yeah.

You really wanted to be active in the business. And I'm not talking about like you working as an assistant at a label. You had to be with those guys. about like you working as an assistant at a label you had to you had to be with those guys yeah streets is nuanced because by no means was joe a street guy or was i pretending to be a street guy i didn't have that wasn't my image at all but you still had to go through yeah i certainly i certainly wasn't either yeah yeah i wasn't i wasn't i'm far from a street guy like i went to private school most of my life and then i went to a performing arts high school like i wasn't I'm far from a street guy Like I went to Private school most of my life And then I went to A performing arts high school Like I wasn't a street guy

Like I I got in trouble For being in the streets Like my mom wasn't She ain't play that Yo ass was gonna be in the house Doing what you're supposed to be doing Do your homework

Passing your classes You can hang outside With your friends But after a certain time Get your ass in the house Right It was just You know what I mean

That type of thing But as you get older And you're able A lot of more freedom And you know You start getting into A little mischievous shit Sure You know Just finding out who you are? That type of thing. But as you get older and you're able, a lot of more freedom and, you know, you start getting into a little mischievous shit. Sure.

You know, just finding out who you are. That's part of growing up. But I definitely, by no means, was a street kid, though. Like, my moms didn't play that shit. All right, you guys. We're taking it back to the I'll Name This Podcast later days. What's up? Uh-huh.

I'm going to drop some real talk on them. Real talk? Yeah, we're taking it. Come on, Roy. Is that what we did on I'll Name This Podcast later? That's what we did. We were- Was there real talk on them. Real talk? Yeah, we're taking it. Come on, Rory. Is that what we did on this podcast later? That's what we did. We were. Was there real talk?

What's the Wikipedia say? You'd see, you'd do that. You'd do your joking thing, but we were much realer than. It's okay. Oh, no. We're definitely sellouts now, but. But we don't need to tell anyone that. They say it on the internet enough.

Yeah, they say it enough. We better drop some. But we're still realer than the rest. True that's what i think like yeah we're not as real as we were i get it true that true that busted you got us but still realer than most anyway come on rory let's take it back to the real talk era we're gonna give you some real give them shook ones part two come on yeah let me find this let's get back to the real talk era. We're going to give you some real. Give them Shook Ones part two. Come on. Yeah, let me find it. Let's get back to our old intro. Come on, man.

That's how we used to start the pod. They knew the pod vibes, man. Man, let me call Peter. Hold up, man. Shout out to Peter, man. I saw him thank you and acknowledge that he didn't know what he was doing back in the day. That was cool. To all the killers and the hundred dollar billers.

That's how we used to sing. Now we started singing. When you wasn't here, now it got soft. It got softer when you got here. I don't know what happened. Y'all mean Savant Alex. This is how we used to start. Y'all mean it wasn't all that R&B shit you niggas got us on.

We be the infamous. They got us on the bus. Yeah. Bridge murderers. The Marvel. Yeah. Bridge murderers. The mob. Official Queens Bridge murderers. Joe, we're not. The mob come equipped.

I mean, nah, we are. Listen, I asked you your entry point. I could tell you mine. It was gangsters. I could tell you mine. It was gangsters. I mean, I can't even say too much on here before Vlad

yeah yeah don't get too crazy before Vlad start taping it yeah no don't do that we're taping it there's four fucking cameras in front of us poor Vlad and Erickson you know what I mean

trying to jam us up alright y'all know what time it is Black History Month Bobby Schmurda Day Schmurda is home i'm hitting a round of applause because boy am i excited love it i am excited fuck hip-hop and fuck rap i'm just finally i'm happy to see it's just good to see yeah finally finally finally

finally it's been a long long six what six and a half years yeah a long time long six, what, six and a half years? Yeah. Long time. He went and sat up. 2014. Hopped off the page. Took his time. Came home. Really happy for him. I'm so happy for his family. Yeah.

His friends. The people that have wanted to touch him, speak to him, like have him tangible to them. Mm-hmm. Came home. Got somebody making 50 pounds of oxtail. You know the vibe. That's a king. How else you want to come home?

You know somebody. Say, what do you want to eat? Pick anything. Pick anything. And you know what a black king said in February. Oxtail. Yep. Look, smurfed a kid on a PJ.

Chick's on board just in case it's got to get crazy. Listen, man. I do six years. First thing i'm doing is busting a nut on the pj okay who's there how are you feeling right now bobby do you want it to get crazy right now because it can look at j comment, though. More threes than Steph and Klay in a shooting contest. That's why you got to love the internet. Just little comments like that just make you laugh. They forgot a name? Not going to let you do it. Yeah, that's why you got to love the internet.

That's why you got to love real life, too. I want you all to keep the same energy. We're going to discuss threes soon i fucked a three i want you to keep the same exact energy when i bring up a three topic later on three threes is none okay yeah three to nine and you're gonna laugh yeah they doing it you're gonna say i got a vendetta because you do see look against three you don't even know what i'm talking about and you're gonna say I got a vendetta. Because you do. See, look. Against threes? You don't even know what I'm talking about, and you're going to say I got a vendetta.

Absolutely. I don't have a vendetta. You have vendettas, man. Stop it. I have a vendetta. Stop it. You are a character. You could play yourself.

You embodied it. Yeah, like. You're finishing moves. His finishing move was ask to cigarette on a nigga. Fatality. Kill him. Finish him.

Ten minutes comes on in the background. When he get all his points up, the Dunkin' Donuts coffee appears. Yo, look what they have my nigga Joe doing, man. Def Jam vendetta. Sorry, audience. I won't step on them anymore. I'm sorry.

I will not. Their jokes will continue until they feel that they've ended all right don't forget that don't forget that conversation though whatever you told me which one the threes yeah don't forget i can't forget okay all right not because you know your memory you'd be like damn what was that i never remember okay all right how you feel about dudes fucking threes though rappers it happens i know more often than more often than people think. We'll talk later.

All right. Rappers taste be trash. Back to Shmurda. Shmurda got oxtail, 50 pounds. Shmurda has Louis Vuitton, Louis Vuitton luggage that says Shmurda kit

as like an exiting care package. Shmurda got a PJ right there with Quavius, young Quavius. Nice necklace. Quavo's such a cool guy, man. Karen. I'm so glad I hugged him and gave him a warm embrace and didn't get any tension between us, honestly. Oh, yeah, I see the JBN was there.

Yeah, I'm a little concerned why Karen ain't hit us. Like, maybe we could get the interview. Can a hot moment happen in hip- hop without the JBN right there? I mean, I don't know. That's Karen Sybil. That's not the JBN. Karen Sybil's JBN. Yeah, but she's Karen Sybil.

And she's JBN. And she takes pride in it, unlike some. I have to look at my contract to see if I have anything to do with this network. I didn't say you was some. I didn't say you was some. I didn't say you was some. I didn't say you was... Come on, Roars. Would I think that you's some?

That's it, man. Would I think that you's some? Come on, man. You're not some. What a way to come home. I'm just really happy. I'm just really happy for him. I don't even have too much to say.

Actually, I have a lot to say. But it's like all in relation to like... i watched the takashi doc over the weekend and we're all in it seven times yeah i texted you see i watched the wrong one you told me that you watched the hulu one yeah which is still pretty decent but showtime showtime has a three-part takashi doc out right and we'll get to that later but when when when i watched murder come home to all this love all of this relevance all of this all of these amazing things that he came home to right what it says to me and what i would hope it says to the other young people out there is that hey you could do it the other way and get all of that you could stand tall

and come home in six years even when you face an 80 and 90 if you have a good understanding of the legal system and how things work and trumped up charges and plea deals and codees and if you just know a little bit about some of that you're armed a little better to play the game and you may be better informed to make a decision like schmurda made which was an honorable one one full of integrity and one that will it's sad that the young people don't know that there are benefits to be reaped with integrity i know that's my point obviously they do that's my point i'm with you they know again one one was authentic and one wasn't that's kind of my problem with just everything having to be perception we don't even we don't even got to put these we don't have to

associate we don't have to put them in the same breath. Welcome home to Bobby. Marketing plan one, one, one. I'm going to say exactly what I said when Rowdy came home. Get straight to the studio. Live in there. Stay in there. Isolate yourself. Keep your circle small.

I'm saying have fun, but definitely stay away from the bullshit because they waiting for you to slip up. They waiting to catch you doing some dumb shit. Don't let it happen. Too talented and people need you and your family need you like just stay focused stay stay stay in the music stay in the music and don't feel like you have to make up for the last six years no be on this time no yeah all right yeah you don't gotta rush nothing stay away from the bullshit acclimated kick it with the family but welcome home enjoy enjoy your family enjoy your friends and you know stay away stay away

from the fuck shit i think the young people needed this i hate to sound like uncle joe right now but i really do think that we needed an exam we needed the people that were born in 2000 and 97 like the 21 24 year olds the people that have just just haven't seen too many of these kind of stories in hip-hop like i'm different like i was i was there for 50 cent story i was there for like i just named some stories i was there for if you know keith murray's story for real it's like oh shit he made it like you know what i mean if you know dmx story for real hove stuff like it's just i was there for some ghetto boys like it's just too many stories to keep up with. And I don't feel like today the young kids have enough of those to see. Like I think about that with with my son. Like who is that outside of maybe anything TDE related?

Who is that? What's that hip hop story that he'll have that he can tell that you witnessed go from start to finish climax. You don't have BMF. I have BMF. What do you have? Like, I don't know. So I'm glad that they have this somebody that they might have been there for who made a decision, stood tall, took on more time for his man to come home. His man comes home early and they they come home, and it's gang. The end. Wow. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. It's great. It's beautiful to see. Definitely wait for the music, though. Of course. Well, that was my next question to you guys. How do you think, what happens with the music?

You got to have one. Oh, for sure. You got to have two, three, four, and five actually. I'm sure he's got a bunch. Everybody that goes to jail or rehab as a rapper writes raps.

That's how we got Six Foot Seven from Wayne. It's a bunch of jail raps put together and y'all ate it up and it was number one in the charts. Do they have recording studios

in prisons yet? Some degree, yeah. there's, stuff comes out of prison. I feel like they should. I don't need one, though. You don't need, I don't,

if I'm a rapper and I know that I'm popping when I come home, I know it's my job to have something in the tuck. When I'm on my, on that phone,

it's beat packs. I'm listening to beat packs. No, no, no. I'm saying even even if you're not a rapper i think that uh recording studios and prisons you know people learn how to engineer yeah learn how to record uh even if you're not an artist you might try it try recording music you know it's just another outlet for people to create yeah why not music in a world that should exist long after i'm gone? I would love to see a bunch of money dumped into the prison systems so they can modernize it more for actual rehabilitation.

Yeah, absolutely. And skills. Again, I won't be here for that, but it's a world I would like to see exist one day. So you think the music could be. back where he left off? I think he's had a lot of time to write, perfect his craft. So I think the music, he'll pick up right where he left off, for sure. Something about, and pause if we're going to be immature, something about this kid's smile, man. It's like Magic Johnson-ish for me. He was always a super just likable person Even if you don't know him

Just his aura Look at that Come on, man That feels good for me But a lot of these young guys have that personality They're just in situations that force them To have to wear different faces But a lot of these young guys

They're lovable You hear Their families You hear their families Talk about them You know Their personalities are big You can tell that They were raised

By good people They come from good homes Sometimes you just get caught up In bullshit You know what I mean But you can tell He comes from a Good foundation though

You can tell Yeah Well I look forward to the music But in the meantime He comes from a good foundation, though. You can tell. Yeah. Well, I look forward to the music. But in the meantime, kick it with the family. Word. But which is why, though, and I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this. And I know we don't even like to discuss Tekashi, really. But in watching the doc, and y'all haven't seen it, right?

Hell no. I saw the first episode. I mean, I enjoyed it because I got to hear from some of the quote unquote gang members that were home and involved. Right? So their perspective. And it was really, really telling. Also, the early part of his ascension, I wasn't there for. But watching it.

None and I'm not saying that any of it is justified because he made decisions and I feel that he manipulated a lot and kind of got away with it. And all of the black people went to jail and the only non-black didn't go to jail that is disturbing for me but boy do i understand it uh looking at the story like this kid really didn't know shit about shit like nothing like he just wasn't bright and he was poor and two dads left one dad left with a heroin habit the mom didn't know what to do with a kid that didn't know shit poor as could be and then the other male influence in my life went to the store and got murdered at the store and he was born in 96 or something like that so he was born into a world where the internet

existed like rory and i were discussing earlier i don't say that to make him exempt anything i say it to say this kid's entire life has been based around getting attention. Like that's all he knew from age four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. And in this Internet era, if you just you could understand it is all I'm saying. Like, wow. A few decisions. You could see how it happens. Like the clothes with the wild shit on it. Now I'm dying my hair. Now I'm tattooing 69 on me 69 times now i'm like that attention shit i don't agree with none of this but as as hip-hop if we're going to be hip-hop then we responsible for this like we manifested we manifested this

this is a product of whatever it is that we put out even though he didn't even know shit about hip-hop not a one fucking thing but again there's no entry there's no entry here there's no there's no sat test that you got to take before you allowed in. And then he got with some street niggas who saw an opportunity to take care of people and their family and get money. I'm so grateful, Mo, because watching this, not that I identify with 6ix9ine because I would never make some of those decisions of course but i could see how four and five six and seven different decisions from me or my family or four or five different pivots in life could get somebody in the position where some of this shit might be acceptable to them like that it's a risk that they might take like if i never had nothing or nobody and never felt love

or shit like and again i'm gonna shut up because this is too long i'm just telling y'all how i felt watching it i was like damn thank god the street niggas that signed me was like i'm not gonna say real real or niggas because but thank god that they just moved differently. They weren't as greedy. They didn't. They just knew. They kept me away from. They just protected. They just moved.

Thank God. If they did not, I would have never been bold enough to fucking try to call the police on the street niggas that I was. I don't care if they kidnapped me or what. Like, I just wouldn't have done it. I ain't cut like that. Like, it's just a wild story again I have to be happy that my son and kids his age have the story of Bobby Schmurda

because stories like this are the stories that have been the prominent ones that's all I'm saying I ain't gonna spend too much time on this and Showtime y'all gotta cut a fucking check I would have never approved y'all having me on there talking about oh oh, you hear this new kid? He's turning it up.

Turning it up. Really like him out there. Yo, it's so bad. When it got to episode three and they chose us to surmise everything, and boy, did we do a phenomenal job. Oh, great. We did a really good job. Wait, they have my face in this? Yes.

Yeah. You're in this. I text Ian so fucking fast. You need to check. I said, if you don't set a fucking C&D show time. You in there like, yo, I don't know if y'all heard the new 6ix9ine, but I'm in there like, yo, this kid is the new flavor. I think Maul called him his little bro.

Episode two. Don't do that. Episode two, Maul. So, yo, it was so bad that episode three, when we cleaned it up, I was happy that people stole from us to clean it up. Hey, thank you. Listen, y'all know how I felt about him before all of that shit. I thought that, you know, he had-

He was creative. He was bright. Yeah, I thought- He was doing shit different. He was a visionary. I get it. I thought that he was that. But, you know, listen, listen man from where i'm from after

you make certain moves and make certain actions i just can't i can't even speak on that man that's just now all of that is null and void as far as i'm concerned but this is a lesson to be learned in this though i understand what joe is saying there's a lesson there's a lesson to be learned i agree with you absolutely there's a lesson to be learned in this. But welcome home, Bobby. Yeah. Yeah, back to that. I'll say that. Welcome home, Bobby. But let that be the answer.

You just don't have to do it this way. Right. No, no, I agree. That's why I agree with what you said. I agree with what you said. You do not have to do it that way. And welcome home, Bobby. Congratulations, man.

Enjoy your oxtail. Have another good meal. Enjoy some- Hit us a hot one. Give us a hot one real quick, man. Enjoy some pussy. Some fucking... Some head. All of that.

What else you need when you just come home, man? I try and make a... DM a few chicks that you don't even care about. Just get it off. She made a show. Give me my money back.

I don't know you. Why you ain't write me? I didn't know you. I don't know you don't know me. Alright, get to know me then. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Bandy's used to get crazy to this. Still do. This record still works. They get crazy. Yeah. Yeah, it does. Don't make this record again, Bobby.

Keep names out. Don't tell us about what happened. No way. Very well. Very well versed in how Matthew did it. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Hey. Very well versed in how Matthew built it. Just that fast, back to perspective.

I can't tell you what Joe Budden would look like if I had to sell crack in the fifth grade. Yeah. If I had to. If the bills didn't get paid in my house unless fifth grade Joe at 10 went to sell crack, Joe might look bad at some point soon. Yeah. Or not seen at all. Word.

Definitely the toughest of circumstances, circumstances to have to come from. Yeah. Word. Again, congratulations, Bobby Schmurda. We're super happy for you over here man

come sit with us come sit with us after the wave I know it's a wave it's gonna be maybe a year and a half but at some point at some point

y'all should come over here and kick it we gotta discuss this right Rowdy too I would love to sit yeah that's who I meant when I said y'all yeah

Rowdy would be great to have on the show too we have to discuss this right absolutely sitting. Yeah, that's who I meant when I said y'all. Yeah. No, Roddy would be great to have on the show too. We have to discuss this, right? Absolutely. Well, you discuss it. I said this, I said that Vanessa Bryant was going to say something.

Yeah. I mean, I think we kind of alluded to that and figured she would. And from what Mika's saying, he apologized and spoke to her in private. You know, and then to me, that's how you handle it.

You handle that in private if the grieving widow felt some type of way and she reached out. Let me read her reply off first. It says, dear at Meek Mill, I find this line to be extremely insensitive and disrespectful, period. I'm not familiar with any of your music but i believe you can do better than this if you are a fan fine there's a better way to show your admiration for my husband this lacks respect and tact end quote uh and then there was a flurry of meek response well i won't say responses but tweets that people took as a response just people because of the timing not people being stupid people being stupid that's what it is if you thought that if you

thought that meek those tweets was directed to anything that Vanessa Bryant said you are stupid agree but it's back to timing the same way this bar was bad timing when she then responds to the bar and you start tweeting you have to know that people are going to take that as a response no matter how idiotic it is it's just bad timing that's not no it can be bad timing too but it's also stupid people i agree if you think that meek is that type of person that would say those things and respond to vanessa bryant those people don't know no no no no no. But they don't know whether Meek is that type of person or not, Maul. That don't make them stupid.

Listen, listen, listen. They don't know him. Listen, it's just cool. Meek is the villain right now. It's cool to just call him stupid and say he doesn't know how to move. He doesn't know what to say out of his mouth. I understand how this internet shit works. Right now, he's the guy that's the one to pick on.

I get it. Have your fun with him. But what I'm saying is just use your brain too at the end of the day. Do you think that Meek would actually tweet those things to Vanessa Bryant? No. Like, come on.

You got to stop. At some point, this shit has to stop. Just stop. Meek would not tweet those things to Vanessa Bryant. He would not. Yeah.

He has enough people around him, enough people in his ear. He's affiliated with enough of the right people to where he knows better than to do something like that. It would not happen. Just stop. But then why wouldn't those same things apply to any tweet tweeted in close proximity to when Vanessa Bryant tweeted what she tweeted?

He probably didn't even see that. Maybe. Add that in. People just got to stop. Like I said, I get it. He's the guy right now It's easy to pick on him He's the target

And he understands that You want people to allow grace Not allow grace The benefit of the doubt Just use your own brain Stop just falling into What the internet is The current trend on the internet is

Use your own brain Has Meek Do you really think Meek Would tweet those type of things to Vanessa Bryant? He would not. They don't know that. He would not do that.

They still don't. He would not do that. Meek is not, he's not, he's not, Meek, okay, Meek never struck me

as an asshole dickhead guy that would tweet that to a grieving widow of one of his favorite athletes. You've met me. Sorry. It wouldn't happen. But you've met me.

Even if I didn't. But you did. Even if I did not. It would, like, come on, fam. Like, stop. I get it though. I get it. Right now, he's the guy to go after. But you've met him. Even if I didn't. But you did. Even if I did not. Like, come on, fam. Like, stop. I get it, though.

I get it right now. He's the guy to go after. I get it. Okay. My take on this is, unfortunately, this is part of accountability. If you apologized in private, then some of this stuff we're talking about publicly comes along with assuming responsibility for the role you played and the damage that you caused so and which is what he did apologizing in private one-on-one that's how you handle it because you have to get away from this at some point you can't keep doing things over the internet

especially an apology because even that gets lost and people add tweets and this and that on the phone or facTime or however he spoke to Vanessa Bryant so she can see you hear it out of your mouth tell her about you know how the bar even came about

what you really meant with the bar and then you find a way like it got spun the wrong way no no Meek you don't call Vanessa Bryant and tell her what you really meant

with the bar I'm pretty sure he that's what I mean about accountability I'm pretty sure he tried to clear that up apologize I'm pretty sure he tried to clear that up I'm pretty sure he tried to clear that up you sorry and go no even in that but I'm pretty sure he tried to clear up like I meant no disrespect with that bar at all like I'm pretty sure he cleared that up on the phone with her I'm almost I'm almost 100 sure he did that because it would make sense to clear that because that's what this whole

thing is about it's about what he said on a Intention doesn't really mean much to me in this. What do you mean? A grieving widow felt disrespected. Right, but then you tell the person in private that that was in no means intended to be disrespectful. That's all I mean about the part. I'm not saying he got it. The intention does not matter once someone in this position that is grieving her daughter and her husband feels disrespected. End of the story.

Right. But what I'm saying is when you're speaking to somebody, though, you can explain where that came from. Explain what you meant. Like, I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. I'm not saying you have to spit the bar to her and try to. No. I'm just saying, like, yo, I did not write that from a point where I was trying to disrespect or make light of anything tragic that happened. That's all I'm saying.

Like, you just got to explain your stance. And what I'm saying is it's not an apology if you're explaining your stance. No, that's not true. That's not true. That's not. You've apologized and explained your stance plenty of times. That's a human thing. After the apology. That's what true That's not true You've apologized and explained your stance plenty of times That's a human thing After the apology

That's what I just said It's not part of my apology I didn't say part of his apology I don't know what type of conversation they had She says she doesn't know him So now you're having a conversation about something that I said in the Song of Minds I would think that it would just be a common conversation To explain that that was in no means intended to be disrespectful.

I did not write that from a disrespectful standpoint. I totally understand what you're saying. That's all I'm saying. I totally get it. I'm just saying that it doesn't matter. The intention does not matter to the grieving wife. That's fine. I feel disrespectful.

Conversation over. Or children. Vanessa Bryant, listen, to all of the families that was affected by this, I understand if any of them felt some type of way about it. I think we covered that already. What I'm saying now is Meek apologized privately, which is what he is. That's how he's supposed to handle it. Agreed. Don't apologize to the end because you don't owe that to the Internet.

Fuck the Internet. Apologize to the family. Leave it there. I'm with you on that. Do you think we've heard the end of this yeah yeah I think I don't think that ball will come out I don't think that will be on that record um but again man you know and again all respect to the families that's grieving the situation um but you know in our culture in hip-hop it hip hop It's a history of artists Using lines and things like that

That may be taken a certain way And now I understand the world we're in now Is super Everyone feels like Because you can follow somebody On social media You feel like you know somebody

Because you follow them So you feel like you can Directly speak to this person Or express your grievances With this person Like I didn't like that. And then now it becomes a thing. But in our culture, it's history that we use lines attached to tragic events.

Yes. All the time. I don't like the line. I don't agree with the line. You could not like the line. Obviously. But it is not out of pocket. For hip hop.

In hip hop lyrics to say some offensive shit. And not offensive. One of my biggest problems is this is not out of pocket for hip hop in hip hop lyrics to say some offensive shit and not one of my biggest problems is just it's not a good bar cool you can not like the bar it could have been a great bar

some people still wouldn't have liked it whatever what I'm saying is in our culture it's a history of rappers you can go back to however far you want to go you take a tragic event

you make a metaphor around it make it your own make it connect to whatever it is you got going on you take a tragic event you make a metaphor around it make it your own make it connect to whatever is you got going on and you understand i'm saying so that's why when i heard the bar as much as i love i cried for weeks behind that you know i mean but i didn't never think that meek was trying to make light of or be insensitive toward the tragedy i never felt like that but i understand the time we're in now I understand how things are social media I totally understand and especially once the wife yeah there we go and once the wife says she felt then absolutely talk to her and apologize like

and even to the rest of the families that were involved you know that had people in this tragedy reach out to them as well you understand i'm saying like that's that's just how i think it should have been handled once you see that okay people felt the way especially the ones that are directly affected by this i would love to reach out to them and express my apologies like you know i mean i understand that but i'm just saying as far as the music and coming from our culture of hip-hop this line lines like this this is not something and that's my final and that's where my final thought on this lands was the line insensitive yes is hip-hop insensitive yes always been however i guess

because kobe was kind of synonymous with hip-hop he's one of ours we would assume that would handle him a bit more delicately and his name and likeness and then i've handled cory lytle and anybody else that passed when i was rapping i have 500 lines worse than it this this don't even scratch the surface of plenty of rappers though plenty of rappers that's but again i grew up on that so i understand when i heard this bar when everybody freaked out i was looking around like what yeah only because i've been conditioned i've heard bars like this yeah but you know what forever but as a rapper and and we all we have we all have to learn this. It's nobody's fault but ours when our bar transcends our audience. Like I said some shit on a mixtape before

that I thought was hard, that I'm sure my audience, and listening to it, if you know me, it's not real, it's hard. Once Bill O'Reilly plays it, it's not so hard.

It sounds horrible. Damn, how could somebody even think to hit record on that literally just reading your lyrics out loud oh my god

reading it and just like just like this with times changing with social media I'm sure Vanessa read this didn't hear it

just read the lyrics that was going everywhere she don't even know who Meek is well it's also they kind of I did enjoy her spice I enjoyed that spice

yeah I don't know your music fam never heard it could be really good but this was bad you understand you understand but you know

again first Kobe Bryant woke up in that house blasting Meek Mill one day I'm sure I'm sure yeah Kobe

dreams and nightmares Kobe didn't play dreams and nightmares that's played at the house often i'm sure yeah hip-hop but she also may not know that that was me the whole way this line came out is still weird to me though huh like the song didn't come out only that line came out in a high well because that line you mean like all the superstars do that's how the show button just got leaked is there oh nobody you didn't say that, I was the only one that heard the leaked clip. Y'all got it. Y'all got it.

Y'all got it. No, but you know, again, He didn't hear the leaked clip. I get it. I understand, you know, we spoke about this

and insensitive, sure. Too soon? Sure. If I rapped about your dead relative, you'd be mad at me. You wouldn't want me to do that.

Listen, like I said, a year after they left, you wouldn't want me to do that. I don't, regardless of when you wouldn't want me to do that i don't regardless of when they left you would snuff me like i've i've like i said i grew up one of them friends on my block his dad died in the happy land fire in the bronx in the 80s and when when hove had that bar of the fire spit burnt down happy land he didn't take any offense to that bar it's 20 years later regardless of how how how later it is you understand i'm saying because people are different yeah in 20 years me could have said no i'm not saying it might have been all right no it wouldn't be all right you don't know that

you wouldn't i'm just saying to some people it wouldn't be to some people wouldn't be all right that's all i'm saying like so you just have to understand that in hip hop, yes, it's an insensitive art. You say things about tragic events. You make a metaphor around it. So I understand. I don't want it to make it seem like we're making excuses for me because that's not what this is. Do y'all know that Queen Latifah is the equalizer now? Yes, I'm aware.

Okay. Listen, I just think if you're going to talk about a tragedy or someone that passed, just make sure the is hard but even if the bar is hard rory people will still be offended you guys like why it's not about the bar being hard or not people are going to be offended i like that i like that as the new sign to keep it moving yeah you know i've always been the worst whistler. You know what my childhood was like? Like not being able to whistle as a kid. Think about it. They bullied you?

Yes. I'm sorry to hear that, man. You showed those bullies with success. You okay? I'm not going to stop when you're joking. You're getting shit off right now. No, man.

It's fine. It's fine. It wasn't a joke. It was encouraging you. Too many times I bail y'all out from having an ending to your joke.

I want to shut up. Look what you've become. I want to be quiet when you're getting y'all shit off. Come on, Hov. I mean, not Hov. More Hov.

Break down the deal for us, Mall. Jay-Z sells half of Ace of Spades ownership to LVMH. Couldn't have done that without your tutelage. Couldn't have done that without Rory and the Paloozas. I mean, I didn't want to be the one to say it. No, no. I'm going to say it for you, though, King. Don't worry about it.

I got you. I appreciate that. You know what I mean? I mean, yeah. I think I certainly gave Jay-Z the leverage. Yeah. He dropped your name heavy in the meeting. You see what Rory does?

You know my man's, right? Can I say it? Say it. I ain't got out of that Rory stock in the nick of time. Got away from that debacle. He said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Put everything back in the warehouse. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Hey, game. Put everything back in the warehouse. Me and this champagne are going elsewhere. For sure. What a visionary. Yeah. Got in right when they was piping hot. Got right out of there.

Left right before it fizzled out. Yeah, that's how you do it. That's how you do it. I don't know if piping is the right word. Oh, man. Digital forecaster. Yeah. Come Oh, man. Digital forecaster. Yeah. Come on, man. Break it down for us, man.

You lost the 92 bricks. You found them. Then you called up LVMH. Yeah, that's how it went. And you called them up. LVRN. Yeah, LV, yeah. You called them up too.

Called Justice. You want Hove to come over there with Black and Summer? Yeah. And Champagne. And Champagne. That sounds like a great party. Great night. But yeah, this is another notch

on Jay's belt, man. You know what? I gotta see what a Hov party is like. Rich. No, we don't know that. All you see is Roc Nation brunch. You don't know what a Hov party is like. Oh, like a regular Saturday? Yeah, and for him to be at that level, like it's only him and Puff up there don't know what a whole party is like. Oh, like a regular Saturday? Yeah, and for him to be

at that level, like it's only him and Puff up there. We know what a Puff party is like. He's too cool. What does whole party looking, partying look like? Tell us, man.

Same thing with that, any one of your kickbacks probably would look like, honestly. You walking around in something comfortable, some basketball shorts, t-shirts.

Lots of IG influencers? Well, no, not that. But, you know, friends, close friends, family. You know what I mean? They never paint. They always paint me mutt is my only. That's not mutt. I don't think you paint that.

I like the IG influencers. No, I paint me as one of the greatest ever. As you should. Like one of those type of vibes. Like even more than those type of vibes. You know, like one of the goats. One of the greatest ever type of vibes. I know those type of vibes. Yeah even harder than those type of vibes. You know, like one of the goats. One of the greatest ever type of vibes.

I know those type of vibes. Yeah, anytime y'all chiming, y'all can't speak on the Joe Budden doc. Why? I had y'all names written down,

but no, man. Yeah, man. Gotta do it. I can't send him over there to get a little perspective from y'all. Yeah, man. But yeah,

Jay is, he's from Brooklyn, man. He's not too far removed from that. He knows how to party and let loose. Hove can't have parties like Buff at his crib because that's also Beyonce's house. Beyonce's from Houston. You can only have select few friends there.

Who wears the pants? Beyonce. Beyonce. Oh. I think Hove would say that too. Beyonce. I mean, that's true. Yeah.

It should be like that. Yeah, it is like that. Sorry. Which is fine. Yeah. My bad. Well, you know, Hove Avengers, what'd you guys expect expect this is the greatest deal i've ever seen in my entire life yo that's a tough timeout man timeout timeout time that's a tough pill to swallow like as a man

is it no that's regular shit i think it'd be fire my wife was one of the greatest entertainers of all time i gotta get with that some of y'all gotta get with that too y'all could put it like it's only me but some of y'all gotta get with that too y'all could put it like it's only me but some of y'all gotta get with that you could be the man in the world and in your relationship but you can't be the man in your relationship

no no no no you can be the man in your relationship but home home is the queen runs the castle well when the queen is Beyonce yeah well the queen is Beyonce Yeah Well the queen Is your queen Whoever your queen is Your relationships

Yeah whoever your queen is Awesome Whoever your queen I mean choose your queen wisely though Niggas don't That part is true But when you When you marry a woman

It gets tricky Yeah Right there Yeah I mean we know what we should do We know who we should get with Yeah We know the qualities that we...

Yeah, but come on. Yeah, but you got to choose your wife wisely. Come on. No, we don't. We don't do it. You should, though. No, you're right. You should.

Yeah. You're right. And when you do... We don't do a lot of things. When you do, it's easier to relinquish the house. Like, let her run it. Like, because you know she knows what she's doing when you have that right woman in your corner.

But now, if you're out here just running around with the hottest chick of the week, you can't give her the keys to the fucking... No, she shouldn't't be the queen she can't have the keys to the car and think you're gonna get there safely i mean how hot is she i don't care how hot she is nigga she's gonna be ice cold next week believe that you can't give her the keys no but you know what woman is is equipped to run the household if beyonce would have woke up and saw what ho was doing on her microphone with that 444 project. You recorded that on my mic? You think she didn't hear that?

Did I say you couldn't touch my stuff? She didn't see it. She didn't see it actively being recorded. Hov doing the 444 on the bedazzled wireless mic changes the perspective on it. It definitely does. It takes the allure away from it. All Sneak and the Do is Alvin's nuts.

That's hilarious. That is crazy, but congratulations. Yo, Guru, turn me down a bit. She upstairs. Yo, tell him, tell him, Guru,

yo, I left the side door open. Yeah, yeah. And turn me down. Turn me all the way down. Sean J.Z. Carter is pleased to announce a partnership with Moet Hennessy

as they acquire a 50% stake in Armand de Brignac. I think that's how you say it. Really? That's exactly how you say it. Go Joe. The partnership reflects a shared vision between Moet Hennessy and Sean J.Z.

Carter for the future of this iconic mason. And that's the end of the press release. He is not a mason. That's just a rumor. Congratulations to both parties. Moet Hennessy announces a partnership with Sean J.Z. Carter via the acquisition of 50% of champagne

Armand de Brignac. Armand de Brignac. Yeah. Beautiful. A.K.A. Ace of Spades. Dope, man. It's just, you know, Cristal,

y'all fucked up on that one, huh? That's how you do it. I haven't seen a bottle in years. Of Cristal, though. Like, not out that's what happened

does it exist anymore yeah I still see it at the liquor store it still exists but they don't sell it around my way you know what I mean I ain't seen it

I ain't heard nobody ask for it order it not hot too much dip on your chip yeah gotta humble yourself feeling yourself

it was little old black nigger hip hop at the door why would you want to have something to do with that? Well, yeah, there you go.

Here's why. Again, congratulations to Hov and Adeel. I can't spend too much more time on it because y'all would kill me for being a Hovinger.

I do enjoy the Ace of Spades, though. You're enjoying good Ace of Spades? Yeah, it's nice. When that yard heat up, gold bottles everywhere. Come on, on man go bottles everywhere it's gonna get crazy no it's not i think it might though i think it is yeah i think that we've i think that we took 2020 to kind of figure out how to navigate the the the country right this second and i think

the summer of 2021 you're going to see practices being put into effect like all the new york strippers they got their underground strip clubs routine monday through friday now weekends now we're now oh yeah yeah something we can still we can still i'm just saying that now they have it's a regimen back for them uh new york city uh going from 25 to 33 wow 33 occupancy wow let's go democrats i got a call last night somebody said hey you want to head to hide over to pergola i said i'm in bed no no no even if i wasn't no i don't know yeah i don't want to do that but but that's the vibes now. So by the summertime, listen, Corey, Corey, every day keeps saying,

hey, come on, let's go work out. And I'm like, summer body for what? I'm not really traveling. But then I was like, Miami. Miami. Turks, I'm going to take my shirt off. I read an article in The Atlantic, I think it was, that was saying that the world, it might be good by summer,

and then by fall, you know, people are going to be cautious and go back inside maybe. And then maybe real life by 2020. It's going wild when the sun come up, but they said the summer might be wild. Both my parents are vaccinated. Oh yeah. They're done.

My mom got the first shot. She's getting the second one this week. They both was fucked up for at least a day with side effects. Sure. But then they were fine. Yeah. Um, what else? The new African strain of COVID. at least a day with side effects. Sure. But then they were fine. Yeah. What else?

The new African strain of COVID. The first signs popped up where? You guessed it. Long Island. Look at y'all. Don't bring that shit over here, bro. Get out. The new African strain of the virus. All right.

The South African COVID strain. Not feeling it? Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, man. I'm just asking if he wasn't feeling it. Joe's pep talk right now. White privilege is racist. Yes, and you're doing it. I was just asking if he was feeling it or not.

Listen, I'm happy that your chef has finally found something green. Maybe you will get a summer body. The 300? Gave him some iceberg lettuce. Finally, Joe posted something that was green. Other than gravy and lobster. Yo, that's what I was coming in here to ask y'all. About gravy?

Do we put gravy on our lobster? No. What do healthy people do when they want to get full? What? They eat food. What are you talking about? Another smoothie? No. Huh? See, I What are you talking about? Another smoothie? No.

See, I think that's all we eat is smoothies. You crazy as hell, man. I eat great, man. That heavy ass steak you eating, that shit ain't healthy.

It's pretty good though. It depends on how it's cooked. I said, what do y'all eat to get full is my question. You can eat anything. More lettuce. You can eat steak and be healthy.

You just eat too much steak. Correct. You can eat steak and be healthy. You just eat too much of it. You don't have to wrap it in bacon. What's that shit y'all be doing? A little protein burger? Some of them shit's Zyto.

Protein burger. Protein burger. What is it? What is it? A no-to? This isn't meat. This is no-to. What do they call it? Tofu?

Tofu. I don't eat tofu, though. I don't eat that. I don't eat tofu. Do you subscribe to the Beyond Meat? Did you mark that? I have that sometimes, yeah. I heard that's really bad for you. Yeah, it's just more processed food. I guess with a lot of that fake meat shit, it's just super processed food.

It's not good for you. Yeah, I don't eat it a lot. Like fake hot dogs? It's still just hot dogs. All the food we purchase, it's just super processed food is that good for you yeah i don't eat it like a lot like fake hot dogs it's still just hot dogs all the food that shit out of different garbage yeah that shit i don't eat but i eat a lot of you know i'm on my vegan shit man a lot of oyster mushrooms quinoa shit like that i did not know that oysters could grow mushrooms and i didn't know that your cum could taste like fucking newport did someone maybe let you know yes rory how else would i know this see how y'all just look to know we know he gave me the benefit of doubt for an hour and a half but just that fast we look to make, no, no. You already told us

you did tell us you told us you tasted your own. Oh, here you go. Repeat it. Yeah. You told us you busted in your own face before.

You told us that on this platform. I think he said splashed. Yeah. He was like, yo, it was salty. He gave us all that. All of those verbs

and now. Now it's 50. Bitch, you mean. Yo, is that not what he told us it is alright so why you standing up

cause you can't move your foot why you standing up you told us that alright man my bad that's what's up with you

that's what you told us so it would only what's wrong with this what is that I'm saying I'm saying the clip went out and the caption was podcaster

takes major facial that's what I'm trying to tell you I'm just looking clip went out and the caption was, Podcaster takes major facial. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm just looking out for my man. Amateur podcaster. Barely legal amateur podcaster. Busty podcaster takes major facial. Yeah, that was Joe.

All right. But yeah, you know, drink was Joe. All right. But yeah, you know, drink more water. You and the reviewer on my hands are great. Try it. Ask me about it in the street. Just drink more water, man. Drink more water.

Pineapple, I think, is the key. Fruit, fresh fruit helps. Sure. More water, yeah. So they say. You got to care about your partner enough

to not give her newport spooge semen yeah and give her some good fruit semen thank you yeah now what else i got nothing today i'm sorry nobody screamed at it he ain't flagged nothing no he flagged it right flag what he got joe came in his face oh you ain't right that's all joe did it's crazy that day that's all joe did it's crazy that day listen i think it's good that you experiment with yourself get to know yourself a little more a different level that's all look in the mirror like you and i are gonna get crazy today no i'm totally with this does anyone have anything embarrassing about themselves that they've ever shared in this pod?

I never came on my own face. I said anything embarrassing. I never came on my own face. Don't worry about it. That sentence is correct. What you got? Everything I do is cool. You know what I'm saying, Joe?

It's only you, man. Only you come on your face. Why y'all so weird? Wait, we're weird? Y'all know. Y'all are weird, man. That's true. That's true.

Yeah, so movie theaters are back March 5th at 25% capacity. Is that a good thing? We're starting to see the light, hopefully. Okay. Why they pick that?

Pick something cooler to open. Like what? The garden. The garden is open. Concerts. The botanical garden. Like open SOP. I think 2,000 people capacity at the garden now.

Oh, that's great. Yeah. Hello. Hello. Hey. Hi, Joe. And Rory and Parks and Mall and everyone else that has this platform of a million people listening. Yeah.

They said we'd be lying about that. What you got? Who said that? Them. Based on what? I don't know. They're just saying it? Yeah.

That's how the internet works. Just say shit. Fuck it. Put it out there. Just say shit. That is how the internet works. Just say shit and then say facts afterwards. But why would I stop at a million if I'm a lie?

Yeah, we would do a better lie than that. I would do two, three, four, five million a week. Yeah. Not a million. Adding the impressions. While we're at it, they put the list out of the top 50 podcasts in the country or the world or whatever that is. I saw that.

And we were ranked 31. Round of applause for us. I mean, we're number one in your hearts. No, Joe Rogan was number one. In their hearts. Don't tell me about their hearts. On the list and in their hearts. No, I took pride in this list because who,

listen, top 32, not 32. We not. If you think about it, though. Yeah, we're not 32. I take pride in this list because so many of the podcasts before us are like the news show people. A lot of them are actual. And like the crime people.

A lot of these are actual TV shows. Look, Freakonomics is right there. Come on, we can't fuck with Freakonomics. Dateline NBC. Come on, man. We can't fuck with Dateline. Ted Talks. I mean, yeah.

Bill Simmons knows how to record in his house, so that's tough to beat. Let's read the top 10. Joe Rogan, The Daily, Crime Junkie, This American Life, My Favorite Murder, Stuff You Should Know, Office Ladies, Pod Save America, Planet Money, and Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. I really like that name for a pod. Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. That is good. I like it.

I have no idea what it's about, but it's a good title. Yeah, I just want to hear it. Next 10 would be Radiolab, The Ben Shapiro Show, Serial, Fresh Air, Call Her Daddy, Up First, The Dave Ramsey Show, Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard, Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend, and WTF with

Marc Maron Podcast. I like that podcast a lot. Oh, fuck it. Let me read the rest. Dateline, Ted Talks, Bill Simmons, Hidden Brain, The Math, Rush Limbaugh, Views with Dave, DeBrock, and Jason Nash, Criminal, and then Us. That's hard.

That's hard. Yeah, and top 30, under 31. Well, only me, but... You're not 31 yet? I'm 30. You are a loser. He's a loser because he's 30. Grow up.

Why is he still 30? Grow up. Let me try to go quicker. Mad years. He will not turn 31. Yeah, no, that's how it goes. I got to remember that when I'm arguing. Where is 30?

Shut up. Takes 365 days, man. Fucking jerk. Yeah, which means I know who markets the colleges i'm joking let's move on no let's not move on let's stay there let's not let's stay here but let's do it calmly uh i agree with parks had i known if rory and i were gonna have that argument we would have had it in a much cooler way and yeah we'd have expounded because for sure it was hard to get i didn't even know that people would be interested in that

conversation like that. I will say as annoying as I thought we were, it's what everyone talks about from that episode. So maybe we should be more annoying sometimes. Let's talk about it. I saw some people I can see where the confusion comes from. I saw some people telling me that I marketed

to college. I was serious when I thought that I marketed to college. I was serious when I thought that Pump It Up did. It was targeted to college sports events. No, no, no. It was targeted to sports events. Not college sports events. I think the confusion and argument

we're having is that... Is where something lands. And that you can market to multiple demographics. Like, you can market to the street and the college kids at the same time it's okay you would want to actually true but but a lot of times when how and what something is made for differs from what how and when something is marketed for like my point with cole is of course there's nothing wrong with cole marketing the college there's nothing wrong with that i think my opinion don't argue me for it that cole is one of course, there's nothing wrong with Cole marketing the college. There's nothing wrong with that.

I think, my opinion, don't argue me for it, that Cole is one of the best MCs to ever touch a mic, and he didn't have to take that route. Yes, you would have eventually landed there anyway because they would have related to you. And when you say marketed towards, you mean in the lyrical content as well as business-wise. Yeah, like Rory said, the Drake video was in a high school. Yes, it was. I still didn't feel like that was marketed toward college i mean homegrown organic the lyrics well then

somebody told me that so far gone was marketed to college because of the spoken word that was in there and i laughed at that college no you can't claim spoken word i'm sorry no i think so far gone was directly marketed to colleges because the first so far gone tour was a college tour and he went to college campuses to rap those songs see that's that's some that's marketing to college kids Joe that's not even an argument and not only that college I disagree with that so when you go directly where those people are and that's your only focus on that tour how is that not mark but I see thing, I'll let y'all have that because y'all was just

so locked in with it. But to me, the college is basically the same to me as the strip club as far as breaking a record, a record getting hot, picking up traction.

Yeah, it's like if kids on college campuses are banging that shit in their dorm rooms and at the campus parties and you know, you got a hit. And then they speak to the, you know, know the whatever whoever the people are that put together shows on camera yo can you can y'all get

this artist to come down what you're saying is why i have a beef with rory's point because the the music business is reactive so when i make a record and put it out it don't matter what it's about if it's going crazy at the colleges i'm gonna end up at the colleges for sure but that's not what i made this for that's not what i'm talking about that's not right it's not the content it's not who i intended for i could be from the street and i'll be targeting the street and then college loves it so they take it and since you uh were confused about why i have an issue with that that's why joe specifically has an issue with mass marketing because whatever something was intended to be marketing can turn it into something entirely different yeah and my entry to hip-hop is always going to make joe have an issue with that as simple as um with

jesus walks i don't think kanye marketed that to gospel gospel no but it was gospel and it played in the strip clubs yeah you understand i'm saying like so it's like you can make a something and have an idea where you wanted to go and live and grow but ultimately the people determine where they're going to take that i think jesus walks was kind of made with the intention for it to appeal to christian listeners to some degree i'm not mad at that it probably was but i definitely was in the strip club throwing singles when jesus walks was on sure for sure sure and i don't think you're a sinner we all know if if artists that make the type of music that like a drake makes even with so far

gone literally only have one audience in mind when they're creating the record so to say yes so far gone went crazy with colleges and went crazy street shit went crazy club shit i think that's kind of the genius of drake when he makes a record this can appeal to so many people but that's what marketing is like these are skateboard sneakers i'm never going to sit on a skateboard with these but there was but there was like but there was no marketing when he locked himself in the toronto studio with whoever and the countdown was on two dope boys and we was on his own blow we didn't know how any of it was going to sound and we just saw pictures of him in the hotel with a tank top we didn't know him there was no hype there was no nothing we didn't know who it should be marketed toward who was going to grasp it we didn't know him. There was no hype. There was no nothing. We didn't know who it should be marketed toward, who was going to grasp

it. We didn't know a thing. And the music was made and came out and we all loved it. I think Say What's Real was out before that. No, the whole project. When the whole project came out, I'm saying. It came out. We all loved it. What the fuck is this? We was jamming. So that's all. Yeah, who it

hits when it comes out. It's not ours anymore when it comes out. It's not. That's what I said. It's not ours. People will determine where it lives. I was speaking about when it belongs to you still. Like when the music belongs to Cole still, I can hear how he does things to hit that audience.

Gotcha. That's all. I don't hear it so much from Drake. I just quite don't understand that cole point that you make with that he he's only an example he went he went to he's rapping about his life i know like it doesn't mean it has to appeal to joe or myself personally yeah i've never personally like college you kind of raps and that's it's nothing against colin honestly i'm not big into the college he raps either Yeah, but college was a big part of your experience.

Sure. I went to college. And that's why when listening back to our argument, for me, I could hear how you kind of sounded like you were triggered at just that mere mention of a college opinion. Like, whoa, hold up now. Why you say that?

You said I sounded stupid, which to me said, okay, Rory's probably bothered by something I'm saying. No, I wasn't bothered at all. I just thought it was odd that somebody that went to college, made their career in college, met their whole team in college, he's going to rap about it. And it's going to appeal to the people that had a similar experience. No doubt. It's the same way in other types of content, whether it be street shit or not, with other artists. See, but you can't say that. For me, as a 40-year-old, they can speak for themselves.

For me, as a 40-year-old, you can't say that because that perspective didn't even exist until College Dropout with Kanye. What perspective? There was none. Whatever he just said, that wasn't even an allowable thought until Kanye with college dropout. And then we had

so many more stories come from that with the Mac Millers and the niggas that went to college. That's when that came in. Yeah. But before that,

I don't disagree there at all. We all hated y'all. And not only that, we all thought y'all were weirdos and didn't belong. I can't even name a lot of rappers that went to college before that. Yeah, I can't think of any.

Yeah. So, I mean. But also, you do. Maybe that's a generational argument. That's also a social thing, too. Because, like, I've had this, when we talked about college on this podcast, around when I went to college in 08, it was more of a college boom at that point. Like, people before me didn't, it didn't matter, race, whatever, didn't go to college like that.

It wasn't a priority the way it is now and so readily available for people to go. Once I started going to college, it was a regular thing for people. It was a priority for rich white people, which goes into my conversation about college students having a high disposable income, because they do,

because they don't have bills and they come from rich parents and they have money to spend on beer and concerts and t-shirts. And I'm talking about the Tom. That's not to say they have a high income. They have a high disposable income. And for those reasons, some of us in hip hop

pre-college dropout view those people as from like a privileged position. That's a privileged type of thing. It still exists. So when I listen back to our argument, I could just understand how it happened with you being from one side of defense and me being from another side of defense.

But I don't knock nobody's experience in hip hop. I mean, listen, I can only speak for myself. At St. Peter's College in 2008 to 2010, 99.9% of that campus was either from Newark or Brooklyn. Like, everyone there was from the hood. It was a college experience. It wasn't a...

That doesn't even mean anything. No, no, no. Let me finish. Let me finish. I'm saying it wasn't this disposable income, white, privileged Connecticut kid that was in college at that time. Okay. Like, average people were starting to go to college when I started to go to college. Sure. white, privileged Connecticut kid that was in college at that time.

Average people were starting to go to college when I started to go to college. The numbers exist. That's a small percentage. Those colleges are not, that's not the case in the majority of colleges in the United States of America. Agreed. The higher education system is-

I'm speaking my experience. When I was in college, everybody was broke. Sure. But the college system in the United States is strongly skewed towards people of economic privilege speaking only about new york city and northern new jersey only speaking for mine but yeah i think people the college shit changed the way from when y'all grew up it was kind of regular to go to college in my era for the most part it wasn't a crazy thing yeah majority

of people went to college i looked up a lot of stats on it and people from low income families in 96 i think 12 percent uh went to college and in 2016 it was more like 20 so yes it did it did and again i'm not speaking off any facts that i'm still my experience i just remember being there very low number compared to wealthy families that go to college. Oh yeah, absolutely. But music is definitely

marketed to college and the streets. I don't count Rory's experience because Rory's school is a block from a hood. Block, it's in the hood. St. Peter's is on Montgomery. You could walk your ass two blocks up and

bust a right one night like so like Rory's from Jersey City yeah not from I mean you're from there and you went to this school and yeah you've seen the niggas you've probably seen me I was hooping in there oh man all the drug

dealing niggas we was hooping and that gym was full of like none of y'all go here we had the big saint peter's ids i used to sneak in through the garage buck you go through bust the back gate you know the vibes so i mean it was mad killers in there i don't count nothing he's saying no no no i'm talking about like like my son is from new jersey but he's living at the school. He's away at the school. He never seen any of these niggas that's from all these. It's a different vibe. It's a college vibe. I'm isolated. I'm alone. I'm on my own

to learn the world. Was that your experience there? Yes, and because of Kappa, I was able to travel up and down the East Coast to different colleges. I'm not only speaking from my commuter school in the hood like i just even go down to ruckers ruckers changed drastically in 2008 when i was there and i'm

saying i never went to college but i gotta stop montclair state because i did go to college i never was admitted to a college but i was in the montclair classes we did the willie p class our business was in willie p we here now for the the Willie P class. Our business was at Willie P. We here now for the day. All my friends. Y'all got to kick us out of here. All my friends that didn't go to school was on my campus. All the time.

I went to Virginia State for like a month. I went to Virginia State for sure. I don't know what it is with Jersey City kids and Willie P. My little son there, he can't keep his ass out of there. Willie P was that shit. He got a car to just drive to Willie P. Yeah, yeah. That's where the girls is at Yeah That's where the girls is at

That's where the girls is at Do you know You know which college campus Got the cute girls Like that's the first thing But when I was in school Montclair State had them too You knew what I

Well yeah You knew what high school Had them too I used to creep my ass Up to Marist I used to cut that last period Head up to Marist For the let out

See what they was doing Yeah they was coming out with their little uniforms. I was dressed, or I thought I was. I thought I was swaggy at the time. That's funny. Anyway, moving on. And to wrap it up, do you think the blog era combined with the college shit? Because I do agree with you.

Before Kanye West, yeah, the college shit, that wasn't a part of hip hop. He was looked at weird type shit. You came and tried to make Asher Roth cool. He made Asher Roth cool. He made Asher Roth cool. That's your era. That's your brother. It's funny that you bring that up.

I actually know Asher. He's a really good guy. I'm sure. He's talked about how mad he was at, I think this was Interscope that did that. He was like, dude, I was a hippie jazz fan. They cut my hair and made me this frat guy that I'm not. I've never been this person, but they wanted to market me as this I love

college. Everything I do after this has to be something to do with school. He's like, fam, I smoke weed and my hair is long. And I don't wear shoes. What a way to simplify my point. I'm glad you said that. It's not that I have a problem with college marketing work. I have a problem with that type of problem with marketing. Fair? I'm glad you said that. It's not that I have a problem with college marketing work.

I have a problem with that type of college marketing. I have a problem with marketing. Fair? I can't argue with that. That's who Joe is. Like, I have a problem. Speak to that.

Why? Because you don't need to defend the truth. You don't need to, talent don't need to be, don't need to be don't need to be extra. It's talent. It speaks for itself. I'm going to always fall

on that side of the fence. Once you get into marketing, that introduces the business to it and it has more so to do with everything outside of talent. Yeah, but depending on the market, there is ethical marketing, I think, that probably exists in some cases. That would be the term for it.

It's rare, though. Scarce. You know what I think, that probably exists in some cases. That would be the term for it. Very, very, very. It's rare, though. Scarce. You know what I think we did in this debate? We confuse marketing and promotion. They do go hand in hand, and they are together. I love promotion. So, for example, Meek, when he first came out, I remember hitting all the homecomings,

all fucking Greek weekends he performed, which I knew the label was putting him there to reach the other audience. So I guess, I'm not saying Meek was specifically marketed to college kids, but he was going to be promoted because he had party records and that's a demographic you need.

Yeah. House party makes sense on a college campus. Yeah. I'm going to make sure my artist is at homecoming weekend and is performing. I went to fucking Delst at homecoming weekend and is performing i went to fucking dell state homecoming when rick ross and waka and meek all performed all that you would say aren't marketed to college kids but that's what they were targeting i remember one time my

homeboy had how long you stayed there they let you stay on on the dell state homecoming they thought i went there i've been there a few of them Del State Del State homecoming College concerts Be having to bag some Del State But college concerts Are also tricky though Cause I remember My homeboy had a show up state

Near college campus And we thought that No We thought that all of like The college Cause his homeboy Went to the school So we thought that

You know a few people From the school Were gonna come there So we get there They like yo It's a concert out here tonight So it might be a little thin at the club like people might not be there so i'm like oh i'm like who's performing i'm thinking he he's like dead prez i said wait college kids are going to a dead prez concert yeah it didn't it didn't make sense to me at the time

now looking back i understand it though yeah I get it now like but in that time I'm like dead press it just didn't it didn't make sense I get it cause I didn't think that college kids would even know about

dead press honestly but they're yeah they were speaking on a high level shit it makes sense now I understand it back then

it didn't clear I'm waiting to hear DMX you know what I'm saying somebody like one of those guys dead press I was like I actually saw Dead Press on Syracuse

a million years ago. That whole kind of era in the genre. That's where I was at. Shout out to Syracuse. Some of y'all know me over there too. Just shouting out to college. Immortal Technique was there.

I'd be bugged out if we were at that show at the same time. It sounds like it. Was it like a basement type of thing? Or did you not go to the Dead Press show? No, I didn't go.

I didn't go I didn't go Cause we went to the venue My homework was before man Gotcha That shit was dead There was seven people in there They done ran you off of Rutgers Rory You didn't take the drive

You didn't take the drive to Rutgers Stay over there To Rutgers? Yeah you didn't take the drive South Jersey boys South Jersey boys It's not even South Jersey I said the South Jersey boys

go to Rutgers Rutgers go to Rutgers damn it alright what else is happening that was a nice little college talk

yeah much more level headed than the last one yeah we was just yelling I didn't no I was making a point and you stepped on my point with some college shit

so I forgot what your point was too me too it didn't matter it didn't matter after Rory started fussing with me. It started with, I hate artists that market to college. And I said, why? But I was going somewhere.

And then it just went off the rails from there. Yeah. So come on, y'all. I want to do Tiger Woods gets in a real bad car accident. Yeah, prayers up, man. In LA. Tiger Woods undergoes surgery after rollover vehicle accident. That sounds bad. Legendary golfer Tiger Woods underes surgery after rollover vehicle accident.

That sounds bad. Legendary golfer Tiger Woods underwent surgery after he was injured during a traffic accident Tuesday morning in Los Angeles. Woods suffered multiple leg injuries, his agent said in a statement to NPR. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said Woods, 45, was driving the only vehicle involved in the collision, and the vehicle rolled over. Mr. Woods was was I can't see extracted thank you screaming and more that's not extracted it's not extricated

from the wreck with the jaws of life by Los Angeles County firefighters and paramedics then transported to a local hospital by ambulance for his injuries the department said in a statement, why do y'all think this happens to Tiger? The only vehicle involved in the accident and it flipped over like that.

Fell asleep? Yeah, that sounds like somebody that fell asleep behind the wheel. Fell asleep behind the wheel. I'm not going to say that he was drinking and driving. Don't take any of this for a fact. Please, I'm speculating. I'm guessing on some of the variables that could exist of this for a fact. Please. I'm speculating. I'm guessing on some of the variables

that could exist for this type of accident to occur either way. He could have dodged it. Hit a deer or something. Anything. That's why I'm saying he shouldn't speculate.

Just happy that he is okay. Do we know that he's okay? Well, he's in surgery. He just had multiple leg injuries. Prayers for a speedy recovery. That car looked fucked up. Yeah.

That looked like it could have been. I don't ever want to see the jaws of life. Yeah. The jaws of life. I hope to never need that. I've been in a couple accidents. Car accidents? Oh, yeah.

A bunch, actually. Really. That's got to provide some type of PTSD, yeah? Sure. Yeah, being in a car accident is definitely PTSD. Even seeing a car accident. I've never really been in a bad car accident. Been in a few fender benders, but I remember seeing a car accident up ahead of me.

The car looked like it exploded. And just that alone. We was going to the crib one night, and we saw a car accident on the highway. And the dude was dead in the car. Me and Joe was driving back to the crib one night and we saw a car accident on the, on the highway and we, and the dude was dead in the car. Me and Joe was driving back to the house one night. Like,

you can see his leg was. We was, when we were doing the Christmas album, Giff got an Uber home one night and was in a terrible car accident on Steinway. Car, we got to the scene

because he called us and there was a car flipped over upside down, fire coming out of it the whole night. It was like, this is terrifying. Luckily,

he was in the car and he was in the car and he was safe and everybody was okay but that shit is scary shit yeah it's scary

I've slammed into a telephone pole at 70 miles an hour I slammed into a tree at probably 50 you was driving? no I was in the passenger seat where you white boys going? driving recklessly

ran central we hit black ice and slammed into the shit and airbags hit. We didn't even ask each other if we was okay. Just started throwing all the things out in the car we shouldn't have had. And then ambulances and police came.

You want to bring it in for a warm embrace with me? No. Okay. I don't. Airbags fucking hurt. Stupid bitch. Making sure. You want to bring it in.

He didn't want to bring it in. That seemed like a huggable moment. He's good. He seemed like a real this is us moment. I was 16. Yeah, he seems like he's fine. You're still 16. I've gotten over it.

You're 16. That was three weeks ago, bro. One day I'll be 31. I hope. Still a fucking child. And you man is child. Making fun of age is mad funny. Making fun of age.

It is. I mean, I do it too. Yeah. It's like that person can't control that. Yeah, they can't help it. I'm sorry. My parents had sex in 86. What do you want me to do?

How should I go about fixing this? Yeah, you want me to fix this? Okay. All right. We're going to get back to Shmurda. Y'all are telling me he really knows the Migos. we're gonna get back to Shmurda y'all are telling me he really knows the Migos

they have they have history yes they've toured together no Scream Man told me they've been running together since 06 they all from the same block

06 I don't know about 06 I definitely don't know about no 06 Scream Man tried to tell me that before the record that I'm not allowed to say

came out he was already running with quavo 2013 i forgot what the name was 2013 hot figure hot figure i forgot the white boys gotta say that corny they gotta say figure yeah no one ever said figure say hot figure look they won't even say hot figure no gotta stay away from it

no but they've known each other since 2012 13 Smurda was 6 in 2012 I came into the pod Maul and Rory were saying, get the fuck out of here. And me and Alex and Screen Man were like, whoa, you guys, they know each other.

I know they know each other. They was putting out the Schmigos project. And y'all was like, I don't give a fuck, man. That's corny. That's corny. Nah, I said something going on there. To that, you guys say what? I say Schmigo.

I say Schmoney never stops. Say thatigo. I say Schmoney never stops. Say that again, Parks? Schmoney never stops. Now, let me remind you, Mo, that Rory is the same guy that came in here after Pop Smoke's album dropped when he died, saying King Kones would have never recorded this record with him if he were alive.

I didn't say it that way, and I apologized after, because I did not realize that they were actually very close at that time. He didn't know King Kones went to college. I didn't say it that way and I apologized after because I did not realize that they were actually very close at that time. He didn't know King Kamba went to college. I am not... King Kamba,

King Kamba. Fam, if Puff is my pops, I'm not going to college. Yeah, no, you can miss me with that. Miss me with that, dad. I'm going to college.

Yeah, no, fuck that. Just bust me off a million. I'll make it work. I was not suggesting that Bobby Shmurda and the Migos could not know each other. I was going off timing that you guys were telling me that before anyone even knew who Bobby Shmurda was and that record never existed, when him and his friends were just in Brooklyn chilling, that he already knew all the Migos.

Yeah, I don't know the extent of that. There's a tape right there. But I know they toured together. This is after. Oh. This is it. Like, I don't understand what Rory doesn't understand about this. Say it to Quavius' face.

Tell Quavius' face, yo, you don't know Bobby. That's not what I'm saying. Yo, you don't really... You never really was his friend. Tell him what you're saying. I know friendship of two people I don't know. I can tell.

Why you brought the jet there to pick him up? You still pocket watching. Everyone pocket watches, by the way. It's not true. Explain. Everyone has some sense of how much money another person's making. Isn't that true? Yes, it is.

I'm not watching. You didn't explain it to me put it in my face i guarantee you why you think that you pocket watch joe rogan's podcast all the time that one was layered That was your old um. It was a chorus of ums. He was a chorus. That um was layered. That um was killing by itself. I think everyone ums. Them niggas harmonized them. Why do you say that?

I don't feel like I ever watched Joe Rogan's pockets. You pay attention to how much money he was making. That's pocket watching. I read, if that's what you're saying. I read shit when it comes out and these headlines come out to

fatten the stock the shareholders pockets so I have to know that I don't I don't pocket watch if I read something that says Joe Rogan

made a hundred million next year and I and I know someone turn this off I can't I can't see this I can't know I can't see this.

I can't know. I can't know. Everyone. I won't know. Close your pocket, buddy. Everyone that's in business is some sort of pocket watch to some degree. Maybe, but that was a very poor example.

No, it wasn't. That's not pocket watching. That's not pocket watching. It's reading something and knowing what somebody makes. No, but I understand what Parks is saying but I understand what Parks is saying pay attention to what you're explaining to me

so Parks is basically saying like you pay attention to what someone else is doing in business how much they're making especially if they're in the same work field as you because it makes sense to do that

everybody does not do that I there's athletes definitely negotiate their contracts based on what somebody else may tell me how much money you have i didn't want to look you told me no but it's not that it becomes pocket watching when you you say it like oh y'all just gave him 200 million like for what like okay so what are you gonna give us like are you going to give me? That's pocket watching. Yeah. Pocket watching is when you go out of your way to speak on or know somebody else's business.

But it's not. I don't look at it as much as Park Center if it's somebody in your same work field. I'm saying. Pocket watching is the same. I read what somebody makes. That's the field. And now I'm a pocket watcher. That's the field.

When you're talking about other podcas podcasts, you're just watching the field. I don't think he was joking. I don't think he was seriously saying that. He is true. There is some seriousness to it. But I think that he firmly believes his point. So I was looking for an example as to why he firmly believes his point. Not the, if you read something, then you're pocket watching.

That's my blanket definition of pocket watching. When you go out of your way to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If it doesn't concern you, like if it's in the same field other podcasters other shows it's part of knowing the market knowing the workspace. Well how much money do all you gentlemen have in your bank accounts right now?

I got about 20. Which bank account? I like that energy. Oh come on man. It's him. It's him. Whoa. Since I'm pocket watching Quavo and how he welcomed home Smurda. Thank you.

You're welcome watching. How would you give it up if Savon came home? Would you pull the toilet out to record? Get to work, buddy. Savon, I need beer. How are you welcoming home to Dunn? You going to pull the Prius up to the island? What are you going for? Yeah, he's going to pull the Prius up to the island?

What are you going for? Yeah, he's going to send soul in the Prius. You already know. Go pick up Savon. Bring him back here so he can fucking get my fucking cigs. What's Savon going to jail for? Not getting the cigs? Y'all be yelling, free your mans.

I say to my mans, stop getting captured. Captured? Stop getting captured? This nigga was running loose. Fuck was he doing? Don't get captured. Don't let them capture you. This nigga's calling you from the forest?

Where's this nigga at? The things I did to be creative with the lines, man. Imagine me telling him that. Don't get captured. Don't get captured, man get captured don't get captured man whatever man anyway

what was the question I wouldn't do shit for him does that answer that damn what do you think I would be doing for Saban put him on the PJ

you wouldn't scream free him until it was the other way around what's the shit they always put on oh yeah free him

until it's reversed him free there it is I always thought of it that's because they always put on. Oh, yeah. Free him until it's him free. There it is. Oh, I always thought of it. That's because Future fucked it up when he first said it. He said, free him until it's spelt backwards. I'm like, that's not,

that doesn't, not spelt. You know what? Forget it. Forget it, Future. Murphy. Murphy. Murphy.

He's like, Murphy? Murphy Murphy Murphy Hey that kind of work Murphy Me If I get captured Don't say that You should You should get captured

They should They should capture you Throw a net over this kid Get this kid off the streets Fred the Godson Had a street named after him Rest in peace Fred Long live Fred

Always rest in peace Fred And this post says The Bronx is where hip hop comes from Hold up Look at shop for Big Pop in heaven The Bronx is where hip hop comes from Sed up look a shot for big pop in heaven the bronx is where hip-hop comes from sedgwick hey the culture where some of the most legendary people are born fred had some big shoes to fill and he didn't disappoint join us as we cement in history your favorite rappers favorite

rapper monday february 22nd at the corner of is that Leggett Leggett Street and Kelly Avenue in the South Bronx social distancing you okay yeah you vaccinated whoa I'm not vaccinated you vaccinated social distancing will be strictly enforced masks are mandatory reserve your free tickets link and bio really happy for fred rest in peace uh and this is something that uh something i think about often like as you if you transition as a rapper that's one of the things you want is for your street or your block to fucking kind of be renamed in your honor so this is awesome uh congratulations to fred his entire family his fans his new album love that they did

this yeah ascension yeah great and you know i'm real glad that fat joe and jim always show up yeah like anywhere to the fred the godson shit is but that was fred fred always showed up i know he was always there and jim told a story he told a story about how he was kind of not feeling really into the hip-hop shit for two years straight in the studio fred would just be there like just inspiring him and helping him get that confident confidence and that sauce back to to get where he needed to be um so again rest in peace fred shout out fat joe jim the whole bx yes sir and his entire family for sure maul that that emoji that you put there is that something to do with the Illuminati circle that you deal with?

Because only people from that Illuminati circle text me this emoji. No, that's prayer hands. That's praying. Is that what that is? Yeah. Okay. I thought it was some secret society shit.

You must have got the new emoji pack. No, that's prayer hands. Every time it's sent to me, I don't understand it. Yeah, it's prayer. Those are black hands praying, Rory. Look how they throw us

an Illuminati. Is that Illuminati? We're just praying. It's February, Rory. We're just praying. It's just praying. That's all it is. It's just praying like this.

That's what it is. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah, we're just asking. You got to keep your hands like this to receive the blessings and the communion

from Father O'Neal I knew I knew I knew it was gonna I knew I know I got it body of Christ

nah you Christ I got it I got it I got it stop taking my body listen man what you wanna do Parks you know what I mean

it's therapy what's up man how you feeling today you alright I need to go I need to go to confession stand. No, that's where it happened. That little dark ass burn. You should walk back in and say, you shouldn't have did that.

Hey, that was wrong. It's time for you to confess, buddy. That was wrong. He's going to be like, come here, my son. Rory's going to be weak again. Like, oh, it works on me every time. Why do I keep coming back? Oh, my God.

There's always red wine there. What do you want from me? Y'all are sick, man. It's red wine and candles. And crackers. He'd be set in the mood. Getting you to relax. Look what does it for Rory.

Red wine and crackers. He's a red wine and crackers. It's a cheap date. It's a cheap date. That's being made apart for Rory. Listen, man. It's all about the connection. We are red wine and crackers.

It is a fact. Definitely red wine and crackers. I've seen this fucking old Texas jug just getting got over here. Someone brought that over during the house party last night. That's the Carlo Rossi? Yeah, it's the blackout juice. Y'all, that little joke we was just doing with y'all, that made me think of when I stepped up. When you got molested too?

Silence so the audience can really think about and digest what he just said. And then that's my new shit. That's my new shit, silence. Just let it happen. Silence, let it happen. No, Rory, not when I was molested too. And I've never been molested. And prayers to anybody that has ever been molested.

No, when I stepped to Stack Bundles and said, hey, man, I got this name for a group for me and you. Hustle and Flow. I was really hyped when I thought of it. The movie just came out. I thought it was a cool name for two. One would be Hustle. One would be Flow. And it was a really dope idea until he said,

you guessed it, well, who am I? That's a great question. Who was he? If you know anything about him. I thought he should be Hustle. And he thought he should be Flow? That's where y'all got stumped at? Yeah. Y'all was outside the club arguing about who was Hustle or Flo?

I said I was Flo. He said, you can't Flo. Yeah. And then... I can't Hustle. I can't Hustle, buddy. So I got to be... So there's that.

And then the progressive lady stole your name. Yeah. Yes. And made a killing with it. I'd love to hear from rappers about when they got off their original rap name or the other name you came up with. I think it'd be great.

That's hilarious. That kind of makes me sad, though. A Ewan Stack album together would have been amazing. Hustle and Flow? Come on, man. Maybe with a different name, though. Oh, yeah. I hate the name, especially with the movie coming out.

You hated it in 2021. Fair. In 2004, I don't know that you hated. I think it went right with the 2004 vibes. I would like it without the movie. We was the first prime. There wasn't no prime. Royce wasn't even thinking about this back then.

Prem doesn't rap. See? Proves my point. And then I see you held on to liquid Joe. Or flow. Yeah. And then I see you held on to it. Or Flo. And you see Joe held on to that idea.

But you kiki'd my shit too long. A-Rab, I'm going to be Rage, and you're going to be the machine. He tried this a couple times. You got your dream off. I get it. You couldn't get it. God bless you. Couldn't get it done with Stack.

You double back to A-Rab. I got it. You couldn't get it. God bless you. Couldn't get it done with Stack. You double back the A-Rap. I got it. Yeah. Rage in the machine. You got it. You got your shit off. I was raged? Yeah, of course you were raged.

What are you talking about? Have you heard yourself yell, buddy? You know what's wrong with Corey? Corey, I never want him here. I never asked him. You know what's funny? I never want him here. Hey, let me tell you. I like when Corey's here. I hate when Corey's here. This You know what's funny? I never would have been. Hey, let me tell you.

I like when Corey's here. I hate when Corey's here. This is why it's funny. We put out the All Love Lost album, right? And y'all heard the album. I was fucking ready to kill myself. Heard it a couple times. I was ready to die.

Classic album. Yeah, really good album. Thanks. Should have went triple. I didn't say the second part. Gave him all. I should have marketed to colleges. Yeah, gave him all. I should have marketed to colleges.

I should have marketed to colleges. You would have let me brought the diss to St. Peter's. Yo, everyone check this out. I couldn't afford to. Yeah. But when I was just finished that really depressing

suicidal ass album, right? I had retired. Some of y'all don't know. But I quit. It was over. I can't believe you're telling us this now. I have retired. Some of y'all don't know. But I quit. It was over. I can't believe you're telling us this now. I was retired after that album, right?

And then one day, Corey comes, he's like, yo, I got these tour dates. Go ahead and tweet them when you get a minute. Yeah, fuck your retirement. Wait. Wait, I'm retired. I said, but I retired. Yeah. No, you didn't. No. No, you'm retired. I said, but I'm retired.

Yeah. No, you didn't. No. Got these runs. We got a whole tour set up. Here's the electric bill, too. Have you checked the account? No, we got a tour.

Yeah, no, you can retire after the tour. No, yeah, yeah. Get your shit on. But for now, we're going to get these 10 dates. Hey, that's how you know shit was mud. That was a tour, eight dates. Yeah. Yeah. That was when you guys eight dates. Yeah. Yeah.

That was when you guys didn't get six. Get out here and do all eight of these fucking shows, too. A tour. Hey, we got to define tour. Five shows ain't the tour. Akron, Cleveland, Cincinnati as a tour. Columbus. That's Ohio.

That's a tour of Ohio. There was something in PA. I forgot what PA we did. Oh, you killed PA. Because it's like on the way to Ohio. You know what I mean? Yeah, I had to get away from court. I had to PA was. Oh, you killed PA. Because it's like on the way to Ohio. You know what I mean? Yeah, I had to get away from court.

That's why when I booked that fucking stupid hollow battle, I went up there and when I learned it was booked, I said, hey, you know

I don't want to do this. Hey, I never said that this was a go. No, but that's... And he said, no, no, no, I know. But the rent. Yeah.

Actually, the rent for the next four months yeah yeah yeah you know what just went on in the previous four months you know what just went on in the last five months so I mean

you ain't gotta do whatever you want oh man I said yo yeah so you are hustling high low dropping the

yeah so you are hustling at the end of the day you hustle see look you ain't even know you was hustling look I just made Dropping the Yeah So you are Hustle At the end of the day You Hustle See Look You ain't even know You was Hustle

You Hustle Yeah You Hustle Yeah That was a hard bar That was a hard bar I actually liked that It was just the way

He rapped Here I am Here I am on stage Making another bitch That was hard I thought that was a great bar That was hard It was just wrong That was hard Yeah I thought that was a great bark. That was hard. It was just wrong.

That was a good line. Listen, part of that being on my bucket list was not to do it in front of fucking bum ass Paul Rosenberg. Oh, did that mess up our new slaughterhouse agreement? Hey, we signed an agreement. I think it's done now for the slaughterhouse to get away from Shady, but

I can't say nothing bad about him. Oh. I said just that. I'm saying something bad. I don't know if it's going to last. What are they going to do? That wasn't in no one else's contract but yours. But I forgot what you were talking about.

Oh, part of this being on my bucket list was not just to battle one of the guys who I think is one of the greatest bad was hollow. But it was really the URL audience. That's why you want to do this. So they could heckle you. They could say what's hard. They could. Hey, back to your entry level. The URL to me says the streets.

This was something else. This felt like something else. Well, that's why I love. This was called else. This felt like something else. That's why I love Hollow's first verse. He didn't even talk about you in the first verse. He said exactly what you're saying. I look cool broke too. Look. Thanks.

At that exact moment he had some money. Yo this nigga walking all around me I should've hit him at least I should've hit him are you getting hype on that team

if this was a URL I would've hit him why nah you can't do that man battle's over just for some flair dramatic flair no no no

and I love hollow so I'm kidding as much as I'm bigging up his first verse when he walked around you in circles and then said

I'm wrapping circles around him I did want to shut my laptop I didn't like that I thought that was one of the worst parts ever I didn't like when he walked around you in circles and then said, I'm wrapping circles around him, I did want to shut my laptop. I didn't like that. I thought that was one of the worst parts ever. I didn't like when he threw the bag down there and said, I'm getting my bag. But I love Hollow, and I do think Hollow's one of the greatest battlers ever, and I support everything that he's doing right now. That nigga Joe went up there and said, if you guys don't stop booing, the battle is over.

Hey, the worst part of Joe's night. Give me my ball back. Highlight it. No. I'm looking at this. That's the friend you are. the battle is over the worst part of Joe's night give me my ball back highlight it no I'm looking at this and I'm like I just remembered how it ended

no I just remember how it ended and I'm like how did this I don't remember this night but now I remember it Mo you shouldn't be shocked it ended like that

if I just told you that I stepped to court and said yo fam I'm not doing this I didn't know that I didn't know that this is my first time knowing that you felt like that

no you are doing it yeah I didn't know you felt like that so know that. This is my first time knowing that you felt like that. No, you are doing it. Yeah, I didn't know you felt like that. So they was giving me a hard time in the third. I was like, wait, huh? I didn't even finish this third. Nigga, I'm... Yo, y'all gonna keep booing?

I dare y'all. Well, hold on. Can you give... Boo! All right. Can you give us your third round right here? Give us anything right here. A quality, right? I might got Joe's

third round recorded somewhere I don't want that I'm sure I didn't hear what you said I had a greater quality joke but oh okay

what was y'all saying what well I mean you performed at Hammerstein Park said he got your third recorded I think I got your third I said yo

he had Manship recorded that he won't remaster and put out I said yo my name is Joe he got me and Joe button vocals he waiting for me to try to die well Howell said I got your third. I said, yo, he had mad shit recorded that he won't remaster and put out. I said, yo, my name is Joe. He got mad Joe Budden vocals. He waiting for me to try to die so he can make a buck. Well, Hollow said, I got this 112. I want Joe to see.

That was hard. That was hard. I ain't say nothing hard, right? I just said what you said was hard. I'm smoking. I'm smoking. How can I quit smoking with friends like y'all? Tell me about everything Hollow did that was hard.

I just said you had a hard bar. I named you a hard bar. Get the fuck out of here. Shut up. I got this 112. I want Joe to see. that was hard. I just said you, I just said you had a hard bar. I named you a hard bar. Get the fuck out of here. Shut up. I got this 112. I went Joe this. He was hard, though. That was fucking hard.

Super, I went that. Like, ooh, you got that off. Ooh. Boy from Sugar Duggan, though. And we're back. To anybody here, to anybody here

that may be confused. Joe had it level like they did from Sugar Jay. For sure. To any of the audience members. Sugar Jay came to the crib and dropped off about seven of those. Joe was like, I'm good for the next five years out this motherfucker. Nah, yeah, shit like that. Yeah, yeah.

For anybody that may. Come on. No, no, go back. Go back. But that's all. No, go back. But that's all your soul, but that's all your sauce, though. We being honest.

And we being honest? Like, how honest are we being? Why do you keep trying to say I'm gay? No, no, that's not what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say that this is this style. My sauce is gay? This sauce right here? My sauce is given gay?

No, I'm saying this sauce right here is definitely shit that you would wear, though. You would wear that. I think that's a good fit. Minus the bag. I don't have a fanny pack mall yes you do no i don't you did have a fanny pack i never had one of those i've never had one of y'all just lying to your audience no you had a you had a uh satchel though that's not a fanny pack it's the same cousins they're called clout bags now it's cousins you keep the clout in there You've had a satchel though Right or wrong I'm just asking if you had a satchel

Yes or no Alright cool moving on Little man What you at I never had a satchel I'm gay cause I had a satchel I didn't say you were I just said you dressed like that

That's all I said I didn't say you were gay What you talking about And if you were That'd be totally fine Yeah I never said you I just said you wish You're like that

Roy want me so bad He wants me. Hey, John. Hey, John. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. We can't do that here. Maul, Maul, Maul. Hey, hey, hey.

Maul is our HR. We can't do that here. We can't talk to each other like that. Can you tell Rory he can't have me? Rory, you can't have Joe. Well, two things. Two things. Two things.

I don't date coworkers, number one. You don't date the same workers? Yeah, I don't date coworkers because, you know, I don't want to shit where I eat. And number two, you're not really my type. You die for it, nigga. You do a lot of shit when you date? He would die for it. You would die for it.

That is insane. What the fuck? Telling another man he would die for you. I would die for you. What is going on? You would die for the opportunity. I like my men more polished. Sorry.

His nails are polished. What you would say to me? Listen, the way I see you spending on your significant others, it was good, bro. The way I see you spending on your significant others, it was good, bro. Hey, if you're free on a Saturday night, maybe we could run up to Jones Beach. Have some lobster. Like a little track and field. Have some bacon lobster. Huh?

Track and field bay. Like a little track and field. Rory will be track and field bay. Athletic Bay. Did you just say me in the phone, ass? College dropout bay. I did drop out of college. We're going to handle all this street.

Yo, y'all. And I'm not coming to the hood with Rory on my arm. Yikes. No, no, you'd be a little suburban thing. Jump the shit out of me. That's just suburban thing. You know when niggas first flip on a block with a suburban chick? I'm not a suburban thing.

Yes, you are Let Joe use the car Whenever he wants Hey where'd you meet him Woodbridge Yeah Oh I went to Woodbridge Mall One day

Oh my god Yeah you know how When you meet Seen him at Forever 21 Y'all let's see Yeah You know how when you meet That era where you was

Meeting your significant other Online but you had to Make up a story Cause you couldn't tell people Y'all met online Oh yeah It was you meet, that era where you was meeting your significant other online but you had to make up a story because you couldn't tell people y'all met online. Oh yeah, when it was weird to do that. Yeah, no,

that definitely happened. Oh, a mutual friend. It was always that. Like, no, we know the same people. Yeah,

nah. No, you got the same followers. I DM that bitch. Yeah. Yeah. And it worked. I'm glad that that's like okay now.

Way of the world now. That's the way of the world. I DM them. That's the way of the world. But no, there was a time where you was just like, nah, like, I ran into her one time. Yeah, I know a home world. That's the way of the world. But no, there was a time where you were just like, nah,

I ran into her one time. Yeah, I know a homegirl. Homegirl hooked us up. Y'all, you ever had a girl, this is off on a tangent, we don't have to stay here

because this is just a freestyle, but y'all ever had a girl that every time she guessed like the bad or tried to say something about the bad shit you was doing like she was right?

Every time she heard something, it was accurate. like the bad or tried to say something about the bad shit you was doing like she was right like every time she heard something it was accurate shit it could be I heard you was DMing such and such gave me a number you're not supposed to meet

that Friday it's like yo how do you know who told yo in the same hour you gotta end with this bitch yeah

iCloud it's her no it's her it's iCloud this women intuition shit is such bullshit you're like wow that's accurate no it's real absolutely we can't tell them can't tell them that we have to no no no come on constantly deny it come on we can't tell them that their intuition is real yeah they know it's real we can't let them know that they're right y'all be right as hell yeah they know that shit is right Damn I did like that bitch I don't even know her

You know her nigga Every time they hearing something They hear right Y'all I'm hearing that you got plans To go out with this Ashley girl Next weekend Like they be having details They know where you going

I heard you was going You could go race cars Bumper car Jerry's Yeah Come on man You crazy Come on I don't even do da, da. Yeah. It's like, come on, man. You crazy. Come on. I wouldn't even do shit like that.

Me? I wouldn't even do shit like that. Come on, me? Yeah. You text your own and say, yo, we can't do the bumper cars. That's when I'm stupid. Come on, me? Yeah.

That's when they know you lying. When I just repeat what you said, you think I would do that? Whatever. Lie, lie, lie. Process it, man. Come on, man. You know me better than that. You know me better than that. Lie, lie, lie. Process it, man. Come on, you know me. You know me better than that. You know me better than that.

Come on, five years. Yeah. Come on, five years. Come on, man. You never even seen me bump a car in five years. Why would I go there? That's true, though.

You just got to start saying shit. Sorry. And the girl that you're cheating with that you didn't tell that you had a whole relationship she always want to go where it's hot she never want to yo I know this little spot in the park

it's low it's not a little spot everybody's there that's where I be with my wife yeah everybody's there go there and it's packed how low is this let's get up out of here

we just got here but still you think this is fun yeah this is mad fun the allergies are fucking with me out here why did you tell me to meet me

at my girl's job my allergies yeah yo the funny shit is when y'all out and you trying you and the side

yo you trying not to be seen hey by C Joe what's up yo love your first your first album. Saved my life. Picture,

picture, picture. Yo, picture. Joe, I ain't going to say nothing but salute. Who's this? Wow.

Wow. I ain't going to say nothing but salute. Wow, you killing it still. Salute to that shit. Right to your girl DM. Send that picture right to your girl. It's nasty out here,

man. It's nasty. But it's whatever. I don't care here, man. It's nasty. But it's whatever. I don't care. Have fun. Live life. Who gives a fuck? Look like Kim.

Get the pink power horse. Did you cop? Nah, I didn't cop yet. The pink power horse. You see what it'll do to a neighbor. What you think? Friendly neighbors.

What do you think Shorty gonna say when Maul pulls out the pink power horse? Copped or something. She better put a helmet on. She's about to get crazy. That's what Maul says before sex. Yo, you're in for a ride.

You ever seen the pink power horse? Look how fast you got me saying some white shit. You're in for the time of your life. I don't think she's ready. Prepare for a ride. That ride be over wild quick. You're going to be snoring.

You've heard of Rockefeller, but I'm about to rock a dame. And dame was in rocket. Never mind, baby. So was Kim. So was Maul. Oh, my God, man. So was Maul. Pink power horse, huh, Cam?

Come on, y'all. Come on, y'all. Tell the truth on your platform. Part four of me and the neighbor. This is dope. This is so dope. It probably ain't even nothing to say about it. We all would do this.

This is all. Rory, would you say he's marketing to college? That's some college shit. He's marketing to that box. Okay. Yeah. He's marketing to that box. Okay. Yeah. He gave me the story. I didn't even see the story, part four of me and the neighbor.

I missed one, two, and three. Word. Lucky you. Lucky you. And I missed Pink Power Horse 1.0. It's 2.0. So can y'all give me you guys' opinion on this? This is, to me, it looks like this is part of his

Pink Power Horse branding, which is Pink Power Horse is a I guess you want to say it kind of enhances the sexual Yeah, it kind of enhances the sexual experience. So that's the neighbor you think he needed that for? I'm asking you.

I hope that's not the neighbor. I'm going to sit down for a second. I don't know what this Pink Power Horse... Ludacris appreciated it. He left a fire emoji. I don't know what Pink Power Horse does, but to fuck that girl, I would need an enhancement to keep my dick hard.

So yeah, this is a great advertisement. You can't see her personality. Yeah, you can't see her energy. I shouldn't have seen this. I only judge women based off their looks. How about that part? I'm so glad

Joe talked over that. Word. Yeah, no, but this isn't... Now, this is dope. He's not really fucking. He's not really having sex. This is all part of...

He's trolling. This is fake. Yeah. This is the new marketing. This ain't real, y'all. This is the new marketing This ain't real y'all This is the new marketing Take the pink power horse And then you'll be knocking

Your neighbor's head through a wall Come on man That's all this is I get it I understand You've never wanted To fuck a neighbor? It's bad business

Yeah never I would never Please if you're listening Don't do it Don't do it Do not fuck a neighbor Don't do it As much as you want to

she's a neighbor yeah but if you're gonna get that pink power horse 2.0 i'm gonna find me a sleeper somewhere in this computer don't you guys worry stay so what's's up with your man though Joe Kevin Samuels what he did who's Kevin Samuels do the science man you don't know Kevin Samuels I don't

oh man do your googles do your homework okay yeah give me a second Kevin Samuels is a black man

relationship expert relationship advice guru what'd you say he's an image consultant oh he's also an influencer oh it's like Karen Civil mhm Relationship expert. Relationship advice guru. What'd you say? He's an image consultant. Oh, he's also an influencer. Oh, it's like Karen Civil.

Mm-hmm. Oh, he's got- He's Kevin Civil. He's Kevin Civil. He's a lifestyle coach. Yeah, he's a lifestyle- Lifestyle coach. Influencer. Kevin Civil is hilarious.

I'm sorry, Karen. Karen probably is the thing. I was just about to say, you literally just had a State of the Union address with the entire network about things you were gonna forget it

but I have HR now Maul didn't say a word when you just said that oh I was reading I was reading this I was reading the captions I was reading the captions

I'm sorry oh brother Kevin Samuels whom I followed and DM'd over the weekend to say I really enjoy what you're doing out there let's link and build when you get some time I didn't put the link and build part but I thought

Rory would appreciate it Kevin Samuels I've been just watching a bunch of Kevin Samuels clips right and over the weekend I was watching one that kind of caught my attention a little bit he was asking a woman if she thought that women could survive without men.

That was the question. And, of course, the woman said, No, but I don't think you guys could survive without women either. Like they always do. He shut that shit up quickly. He quickly he said okay let's go through it and i was glued once you say all right let's go through it you got me ready to go through it yeah let's let's go through it so he said how much of the government do you think is ran by women and then she said uh some and he said okay let me rephrase it for you how much of the

government's infrastructure do you think is ran by women what i mean by that is the power plants the grids the sewer system the all of that stuff i'm like what percentage do you think is ran by women and she said probably not and he said you're right none of you so why do you think that you guys could survive without us when men are the people running all the shit that you actually need to stay alive so if all the men disappeared you guys would have probably about three weeks to learn this stuff or you die and she was stumped. But somewhere in that conversation, when she said, well, you guys need us to reproduce. And he said, I'm talking about survival, ma'am. Yes, we need you to reproduce.

But I'm talking about survival. But when she brought that reproduction stuff up, he went on this rant. And I paused it. I looked up at Corey. I said, can he do that? Nah, he can't do that. And we just left it alone. But he was tearing her up about what the women are going to do

when they keep asking for equality, equality, equality. Oh, he can't do that. And the government, yeah, exactly. You can't do that. And he says, what are you going to do when the government finally grants financial equality to men? Meaning, what do you do when you get pregnant and you want to have a baby

because that decision is solely yours right now, but the man says, you know what? I don't want to and I don't want anything to do with that. And then the government says that man is financially free from having to support that child

and take care of that child. I paused the vid, cut it off, looked at Corey, I said, okay. He definitely can't do that. That's never gonna happen

in my lifetime. Chappelle made that joke on his last special. If you're allowed to, it's your choice, but if you're allowed to kill the kid, I'm at least allowed

to abandon him. I know. He made the joke and I thought it was hilarious. Kevin Samuels proposed this seriously and I still thought it was funny. I Samuels proposed this seriously, and I still thought it was funny.

I thought Chappelle was serious. And I don't think anything like this would ever exist in my lifetime. Now, maybe a world when I'm long and gone. But I just thought it was an interesting proposition, and boy, would it change so much. The government would never approve this. I don't think.

Approve that men could have a decision to not take care of their child think that men could have a decision that men could be financially free from taking care of a child I don't think it's as far-fetched or far off as you think you might be honestly I'm saying it's far-fetched because of how I believe the government to move. Like, like, like my, my first,

my first, uh, Trey's mom came up and no matter how she was doing, she was getting support from the government. Right. And that was awesome. But I had to pay the government back. They wasn't getting the child support because they wanted me to take care of my kids so much. It wasn't getting the child support because they wanted me to take care of my kids so much.

It was getting the child support because they were providing for my family. Right. So that's just my understanding of how the government works. I would never assume them to eliminate financial responsibility from the father and inherit it. That's just not how America taught me America. America's right. So that's why i'm saying it's far-fetched but to your point just uh i ideally i could see it i could see a proposal being made i could see the idea being thrown around but in terms of approving that i mean i think if the rock what a clusterfuck if the rock gets gets elected, I think it could get done. Yo, so I'm seeing a lot more reports about The Rock running for president.

I told you. I thought that you were out of your mind when you first said it, but I'm seeing it now. And the more I see it, the more I think he could win. He absolutely can. And then I'm really going to be conflicted because The Rock is my man crush. And when he gets in there talking some MAGA shit, I'll turn in them all. And then what's this pod going to do when both black guys are MAGA'd out? I don't know.

You tell me. Why do you think he's going to be a Republican? Ooh, The Rock? Okay, I don't know. I don't know his standing. Listen, if the star of The Apprentice can win, I think The Rock can win. I think The Rock could win. The only way The Rock doesn't win is if Trump is on the 2024 ballot.

Which he may be. And I still think The Rock can win. And that would be a wild America. The Rock versus Trump 2024. But I would move. Why? Who are you moving to? To Ghana like Stevie Wonder.

Okay. I think that's the eventual long-term play anyway, so might as well get a head start. And I'll bring these white boys with me, have some slaves.

Go fetch my water. Wait, you're going to take me against my will? Yeah, absolutely. You don't like it, do you? What? Get on this boat. So yeah, that's all.

That'll be interesting to watch if that's actually happening. I think Biden's only giving you four years. You don't think he's getting eight? No, I think no matter what, Biden's just doing four years. He's going to step down and Kamala would probably be the person that would run in four years. Got it. Against maybe Trump or Maul or whoever. The Rock. Trump. would probably be the person that would run in four years got it against against maybe Trump or mall or whoever the rock Trump Trump and Dwayne Johnson for sure oh I saw this I saw this as we were recording Bryce and tiller dropping

anniversary deluxe album this Friday five new tracks and I'm gonna buy it you know that anniversary album is really good I know it was we kind of people at first talk about it I came in here off ripping like yeah I don't think any of us killed that one track list I think we kind of killed like we was on the track list killing spree at that time maybe okay well maybe well yeah that I was really good if if sorrows was the only thing on that album might have been happy I'm that that's how great that song is so I'm I'm perfectly fine with that I don't know who else is dropping this Friday I don't know what other music drops but I'll be looking forward to that and I'm still waiting on all the

big dogs to drop pause yeah who's big bro to you who's the big dog all the big dogs I'm waiting on scissor that's coming uh Snow's got something coming I'm gonna assume uh I'm waiting on Drake I'm waiting on Ree um waiting on Cole Kendrick whoever the big dogs are

that's who I'm waiting for Travis Scott wanna hear from him again absolutely Uzi wanna hear from him again whoever whoever does 350 and up I wanna hear from y'all

cause y'all change things true y'all y'all dictate like the course of things so whatever y'all because y'all change things true y'all y'all dictate like the course of things so whatever y'all created during this pandemic yeah y'all are the wave so i'm waiting for it uh and with that said i don't have anything else that uh i need to get to yeah uh me and maul were talking about tearing up miami together oh i wanted to i want to go on a trip. I was talking about that

before you got here, Maul, but I do want to go somewhere and pod. Where? We're not on Spotify. We have some freedom to do what we want, so I would like to practice that. I've only been yelling at since. I know, but we couldn't do that before.

But now that we have the opportunity, yeah, I'd like to pick us all up and fly somewhere for maybe a few days to pod and alleviate some stress and just get our heads right and just different change of scenery

I like it I'm with it I just have to get Bazley's paperwork Bazley's not coming yes she is Bazley's paperwork we'll talk about that

look what the whites be worried about have to get Bazley's shots paperwork make sure she has snacks yeah what she gets cranky

when she doesn't have snacks that'll be dope though that'll be dope I think so hell yeah where would you if in fact this happened where would you want it

to happen at I threw around just depends on the trip we could go to Miami and do it we could do Tulum we could do Turks that type of vibe

Turks through Jamaica Barbados Oh no they closed Jamaica's not closed is it? Jamaica's closed I think Really? We could look it up and check

Last time I checked They were closed I don't think Jamaica's closed Jamaica They not closed Then you gotta take like Five COVID tests Quarantine

That's almost everywhere Not Mexico If you go outside the US Not Turks, not Mexico Oh well yeah Mexico Not PR I think DR's open too I went to it but you do have to you do have to show a negative test to come back well i'm negative i got those tests but that's the vibe so i mean we pick a spot go for a few days get some patreon content get some pods out there come back on our families

i like it i think it's a great idea i think i think it's long overdue for each of us. I'm down. You got five ready that's going to roll? Oh, no. I'm never bringing Sam to the beach. If any of you want to upgrade from the room that is booked, you have to pay for it. You have to pay. If you want to bring anyone to keep you company that doesn't participate in this pod, pay the break to you. You got to pay for it. to keep you company that doesn't participate in this pod, pay the break to you.

You got to pay for it. If you want to upgrade your room. Nigga, if I got a trash room, this shit is over. Let's just know, let's just understand what's happening. You like that, right?

Yeah, you fucking like that. You got damn right you like that. You feel me? He shouldn't like that. He is not. That'd be dope though. I think that's the energy needed.

Yeah, but as long as Ian is in 34B with me, I'm fine. Trying to think what would be a cool spot to go, though. Well, think about it, and we should put that into effect, because I do believe it to be important now with that said unless y'all have something let's try to find the sleepers right y'all keep talking some Island stuff let's go to London and kick it now that is happening. It's not what I said. Where's my phone? Gotta touch London. Love London. Our man COVID killed our London shows.

We'll be back. Yeah. Yeah. New Joe Biden. This shit feel like 95 Back when tribe was trying to jive I'm back on my realest shit Right now I feel so alive Versus be the only way I channel how I feel inside Candles lit with Najaampa I just caught the illest vibe in Nola With my folks I'm closer I moved my mom south and now she living like she's closer High go from AC Transit up to Testarossa This is no Toyota 060 in like no time

Since the 10th grade, that's where I ain't never changed my phone line And if you want that bullshit, please do it on your own time I try to be so respectful, that's where I try to be so kind But for these fuck-ass hatin' people, I got no time Yeah, yeah, what's this world been comin' to? It's one of me and one of you Everyone got problems, though Everyone got one or two

Crazy what you lookin' for is most likely right in front of you It's whatever, I'm one of you Everyone got problems though Everyone got one or two Crazy what you lookin' for It's most likely right in front of you It's whatever I'ma keep on rappin' when it's blood and snow I never thought I could Be up this high My mother forgive me I've been takin' flight

Don't believe the rumors, we can make it work But she's talking shit, I'm making me think worse I'm making me think worse Oh, so fresh and clean The government can't stand me But I got a dollar for my dream Oh, I'm so fresh and clean The government can't stand me But I got a dollar for my dream

When you realize you can be Everything and beyond what your eyes can see Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Then you'll say, oh I never thought I could be all that you thought I was You must have forgiven me me I've been telling you lies Don't believe the rules, we can make it worse Cause she's talking shit, I'm making it worse I'm making it worse

I'm so fresh and clean No woman can stand me But I got a dog for my dreams Yo, whenever y'all let BJ just croon in the back Oh my God, look, look at y'all crazy back there But I got a dog for my dreams That was Ombre featuring G-Eazy and BJ the Chicago Kid That one is called Eternal Sunshine

One of my favorite albums to drop last year Really, really, really good album If you haven't heard it, check it out I'm letting this ride out Another rapper needs a verse on here. Jeez, he killed that shit. I'm shocked. Underrated movie, too.

Eternal Sunshine and the Spot of Mine. Great movie. I don't know if that's underrated. I feel like it never gets talked about. Even with Jim Carrey's whole catalog. I feel like it never gets talked about. Even with Jim Carrey's whole catalog, if you call movies catalogs. All the sad girls post memes. I'm a sad girl.

I love that movie. Jim Carrey is so overrated. What'd you say? Jim Carrey is so overrated. Word, yeah, you're right. Yeah, right. He's the man. I was just trying to get them riled up.

It didn't work. I played these guys on the pod and I couldn't pronounce their name the first time. Emotional. R&B. Featuring they and Kyle Dion. We know these guys.

It's Rory's Avengers. You know Rory got his R&B Avengers I do We got the squad Squad idol There Um Mikna

M-I-K-N-N-A I played them before Couldn't pronounce it then Can't pronounce it now This is Heartbreak Mikna Heartbreak Oh it's a Rory B

Oh yeah A little barefoot Barefoot for you For your head top. Ah, daddy, daddy, daddy, man, man, man. Don't ruin that verse. I can't keep holding on. I wish you were better.

I'ma take control Now I hit the road Bop, break, hop, play We called switch lanes Can't have your way I know you feel the same Cause you know I do See what I do And it's best for both of us

We're gonna find this day called love We're gonna get through this day fast I'm at 160 on the dash Say goodbye Say goodbye To time To time Take a flight to the sky I'm moving on, baby

Can't sit away from you And you're lazy Nothing I want I'm crossing the line I'm coping with the end Yeah Cold cut, fresh fade, grown up I'ma take all day, no rush

Live life, suit top, boss up Bring the heat, let it be, floss up At the scene, retro gleam in the caddy Anytime you see me, you gon' see me with a baddie And we mad cause I'm feelin' real happy I'm doin' just fine if you ask me I keep it low key, makin' hoover moves Just doin' they thing that I'm supposed to do Can't take my time to get over you, nah This show must move and groove on

When I get around and drop the top down At my knees, let it breathe and feel the nuance Way too long since I felt like this Gon' ride till dawn, till the daylight hits I'll break away Time to change place Hey, hey hits I'll break away time to change place hey have your way we trust not steps just to see where we we're on can't you see

what better I follow can't you see what better I prove I would definitely be the guy that would scream over this beat Yo I think we got one That record is hard Again I follow you guys, we've DM'd Should've asked you how to pronounce your name Hockey watching

Follow watching? M-I-K-N-N-A Heartbreak Highway. McKenna? McKenna. I said, I just wasn't sure if I was right, so I'm just going to stop. Sounds Irish. You should know this. That is true.

And racist that you think anything with a Mick is an Irish thing. I can say it. I'm Irish. Thanks, Sparks. So you paid the big bucks. All right. Play the joint from Moneybagg. Yo, this is my shit right here.

This is time today. I just looked at my wrist. I got time today. Fuck it, I'm crossing the line today. The hate be so real. The love be fake. Be bumping they gums and bumpin' my tape Don't go against me, they ask for my help Go get out your feelings and get it yourself

Might got the same shoes, but you ain't gon' step That shit that you just put out, you could've kept Yup, she got a nigga, he got a shirt Why? You can't compete when you can't compare She ate the dick through my underwear Got up and got herself out of there I see they put me on memes and things Don't speak on my life without knowin' the real Eight figures a year, woulda cost me to live Don't hold it just say what you feel but Watch your mouth before I fly out your bitch

To a place that she didn't know exists Mediterranean water my wrist Keepin' on piss how I'm talkin' my shit Six figure check for a show man I'm lit Let's celebrate now my bag legit These niggas with me with whatever I'm with Didn't know who did it got everybody hit Bitch I don't like niggas I don't like bitches I don't like nobody We can get I don't like bitches, I don't like nobody We can get gangsta, we can keep it cordial, how you wanna go about it? I don't backtrack, man fuck that, I don't miss nobody Left it on scene, I ain't right back, I don't trust nobody

I just looked at my wrist, I got time today, fuck it, I'm crossing the line today These bitches will cry and be lying in your face Slicker than us, gotta know how they play If the money wasn't straight, she wouldn't be here today Ain't in my hands, y'all don't know what to say You ain't me, so it's hard to relate But how much cash, I fuck off every day Don't play with me, baby, go play with your pussy You see them in person, these niggas be shooken

A hunch, yo, it cost you a Quavo to book me I'm worth it, the proof in the pudding, surrounded by bitches I'm looking like William, but they ain't my girlfriends Bro, them a spend on your block back to back When they finish, it look like the world end I ain't ask for it, they did it to me Niggas exposing their hands for free Get caught in the middle, that's bullseye You got hip, but we were targeting heat Poppin' my shit with a capital P SRT, red eye, red key

Might be ugly, but my bitch pressure She ain't even sneeze, but still I bless her I don't like niggas, I don't like bitches, I don't like nobody We can get gangster, we can keep it cordial, how you wanna go about it? I don't backtrack, man, fuck that, I don't like nobody, nobody, nobody We can get gangster, we can keep it cordial How you wanna go back, how you wanna do it I don't backtrack, man, fuck that I don't miss nobody, I don't miss nothing Left it on scene, I ain't right back I don't trust nobody, period I just looked at my wrist, I got time today

Fuck it, I'm crossing the line today I just looked at my wrist, I got time today That's time today by Moneybagg, yo I haven't heard that, that's hard That's dope Yeah, that's that shit right there. That shit is really good. We'll play some off this Fred album.

This is one of these days. Fred the Godson. Rest in peace, Fred. I like this. I like this. I like this. I like this. Smitty, I like this.

I like this. Smitty. Right. Right. It'll all be over It'll all be over We livin' in the Trump era E-double-r-o-r So far we still prayin' hands close y''all Forget first class, just let me coach, y'all Still feel my uncle close, y'all

Remember all these letters that he wrote from jail It's what he wrote, y'all I hope you good and learnin' through my incarceration I'm in the middle of the hood, all the cars is racin' The attributes, the moderations The promise, the parents feel like my mama's waitin' Though she got the big crib in Florida And her and pop living it up, still I ain't get it far

Feel like my flex verse I should've spit it far To let her know I never fell off If you still going hard, lick a shell off And Fred might turn a free willy until we well off It'll all be over It'll all be over It'll all be over Yo Fred, everybody sayin' I got all this talent But why in the hell am I still trapped?

In my environment, I feel trapped And it's like they all dependin' on me to make shit happen I just got my brother out on bail I might not ever blow, cause my soul not for sale Oh well, I always had a flow off the cell But I know how this go, it's either death or it's jail They wasn't with me going hand to hand on the block But now I'm up, they wanna put their hand in the pot

Long way from the bottom, but we still at the top Shit, I guess it's better than three hots in a car If you real, then I know you gotta feel me And I don't always keep it G until they kill me Did a lot of dirt, and I still ain't filthy It ain't over yet, but I know one day it will be It'll all be over Y'all know what we gon' do

That is One of These Days by Fred the Godson off his new album Ascension. Go out and cop that, buy that, support that man's family. Rest in peace. Absolutely. The legend. Long live the legend. Yes, sir.

Got a little quick number for you, Joe. Got Keanu Letty on the They Count Me In remix. Give you a little taste. Is it out? No, it's not it will be out by the time this podcast love Keanu let a friend of the show friend of the pool party let's go Hey, shut up! Where's Kiana? She said, They, I heard you on this beat!

Don't do true like that. Nah, she killed this shit though. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. I shoulda got you for the remix. Hey, you know the vibe. Let's go. If I say it, then I mean it If you need me, baby Baby, just count me in If you're shit, I'm to creep I'm shippin' on a fit

Baby, just count me in Already If you're goin' through some shit I can be that touch When you need that sex When you're feelin' love You can just count me in I can be that touch when you need that sex When your feet and love are feeling so You can just count me in You know what I like

If you got plans tonight Count me in Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Count me in Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Count me in Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love

I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love

I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love

I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love I'm in love So fuck me, honey, love You gon' fuck me standing up So you can't let me down You should put your heart in my hands I don't think you understand Yeah, I don't think you understand I don't think you understand I don't think you understand

I don't think you understand I don't think you understand I don't think you understand They count me in remix with Keanu Letty So I can buy this today? Yes, you can. Alright, there we go. I just didn't want to stop her saying

she wanted to get fucked standing up. It just wasn't the time for me to cut the record off. HR. Maul. Are you horny at the workplace? You need to get out, buddy. Go home for a few days. Cool off.

Thank you, HR. My horny toes. Cool off. Go home for a few days. Cool off. It's tough when you're at work and Scream Man is playing videos of Seven dancing. Yeah, bring that back because I need to see what she was on. Yeah, now we can play that, Scream Man. Yeah, Scream Man, bring that back because I need to see what she was on. Yeah, now we can play that, Scream Man.

Yeah, Scream Man, bring that back. I need to see if she was wearing the right jeans. Yeah, and she got the right jeans. Yeah, make sure Seven had the right jeans on when she was doing that move right there. Seven, we love you, man. Call up. I like them jeans that be baggy around their waist. Yeah, because you know it's a surprise.

Her waist is smaller than the jean waistline. you don't have a belt on how does it work? Oh, oh my god. Oh, let's turn this up while we look at her Don't tell you the workplace get out Get the demons out of you go home seven when it hopefully we're not disrespecting you to say that you're attractive to us. No, Seven's beautiful. We love you. And aside from that, just her voice. She's dope.

She's super dope. And she's funny. I've never heard of her. She's just funny too. I've never met this girl. I know nothing about her. I think she's fun-loving. Yeah.

I want to hear them. They're getting their white boy shit on. I want to hear them. It says Seven is fun-loving, great personality. You missed the joke. I was saying that she's also really funny, and I started talking about her personality. I don't know her, and I've never met her.

You've never met Seven? No, I don't think so. Again, I told you. I told her via her and I've never met her. You've never met someone? No, I don't think so. Again, I told you, I told her via DM that I thought the record was really good. Casual. That's his thing, right?

It's a lot of those DMs. Yo, love what you're doing. Yeah. I keep grinding. I see the vision. Telling a girl to keep grinding is crazy. Yo, keep grinding.

You know, keep elevating. Wait, hold on. How come I can't be flowing? She could be hustle. I didn't say she couldn crazy. Keep grinding, keep elevating. Wait, hold on. How come I can't be flowing? She could be hustle. I didn't say she couldn't. You might be on to something. I'll give you a little. Let me give you a little sauce.

Let me give you a little taste of some sauce, man. I'll share a little story I shouldn't share. Great. Come on. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want to see your Insta live. Oh, my God. I have to cut these notifications off.

That shit drives me crazy. I'm just trying to get somewhere else that's at the top of my screen right right so mall yes mall yes oh did you delete it oh shit i hate when that happens oh shit hr they deleted something it's gone hold up more don't get scared now i'm not he scared he looks terrified yeah I look like chilling alright maybe she did weird I can see the chair shaking

alright well give us your rendition here we go I got a DM I got a DM the other day from someone who shall remain

anonymous okay but I've been waiting 20 years for that DM but it came and it wasn't about for that DM. But it came. And it wasn't about anything that I was waiting. It was about music.

Young lady had some music. Asked me for my cultural critique. Sent over about 12 slaps. And I sat and listened to it. And then I sent back my critiques and my favorite slaps out of the bunch. That's it. Clubhouse notification. Just move that out of the way.

Tell me if I'm corny. Corny? I don't see what you're saying. Oh, this right here? I want A&R. No, give me that shit. That's going to be the artwork. Give me your phone

can we close this I just wanna go home I never told a girl I want A&R credit to get some ass I just wanna go home I promise I'm just going home

I wanna go home what is this basement I'm in right now that was bad There's too much Horn here But then you had to see What he followed it up with Kidding

Because she didn't reply Hey I was just joking By the way No no You was dying a second ago. Yeah. Hey, Scream, man, had to go cuff his face in his arm a second ago. Fuck out of here.

I'm corny for that? I don't care, bro. No, no, that's not corny. I don't care. That's not corny. That's not corny. I need some A&R credit on that. Just kidding, boo.

Yeah. Hey. I wouldn't do that to you. I'm going to hit him with the Royale. Love your new record. Love what you doing. Let me see. Come on, give me something.

Give me something dope, Roy. All we know is that we're looking to hurt. I dropped it. Yo, we are so corny. Records dope, exclamation. Two. Thank you. Loser.

I'm aware that my record with Chris Brown is good. I made it. Say no. Boo. You don't get me. Wait, what? I said that. She told me that song is good.

Yo, I text. I DM Kevin Samuel. I say, yo, love what you're doing. He's like, thanks. I said, wait, nigga. Yeah, that's it. Fuck if you talking about things. Thanks. I'll fuck you up.

Nah. I love what I'm doing. I love what I'm doing, too. I love what I'm doing, too. Nah, nah, your mother said that to you. Give me you alone, feeling the seek in your bones. We be in a zone, he even not creeping your home. I'll get your jiggy up, I I get you a leech in that chrome

That nigga finna go crazy, just answer your phone Yeah, I seen you with your man, I'm on the road Thank y'all for listening, life is moments of the past, bye Know you wish you was with me, you see me in the ride You also see my... No, no, no Thank y'all for listening Life is a series of moments and moments past

So let's make sure this one lasts As if it's all we have Until next time, I bid you adieu Farewell, adios, hasta la vista the moments and moments past so let's make sure this one lasts as if it's all we have until next time i bid you adieu farewell adios hasta la vista arriba durchy so long goodbye all of that good stuff man it's something else i say on the outro life is blah blah blah blah blah blah blah the girls blah blah blah stagnant travel is smart stagnant travel is smart. Stagnant travel is smart. Yeah, whatever. Who cares? Wait a minute! Wait a minute! You know I'm on board.

I think so. I bought one. That's right. Can you see me? Why you don't believe me? I don't believe you They fucked, left them for dead Still get to have them Simple enough No Joe Biden