The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 420 | "The Bud Den"

Episode Date: March 3, 2021

Joe kicks off Episode 420 by sharing his hate for Azealia Banks’ newly shared “love list” (12:18). The guys recap D’Angelo’s competition-free Verzuz (17:05), and Joe calls Adam22 after his recent interview with CyHi the Prynce (36:58). The guys discuss a potential Raekwon/Ghostface Verzuz battle (53:25), the kissing allegations against Governor Andrew Cuomo (59:05), and Texas Governor Greg Abbott announcing the end of the mask mandate (1:02:24). Another woman comes forward against T.I. in his sexual assault case (1:05:05), and Chris D’Elia gives an update on his child molestation allegations (1:06:40). SoundCloud introduces “fan-powered royalties” (1:15:45), which begs the question: How much longer will labels be around? (1:15:45) Joe discusses opening a dispensary in Detroit (1:38:26), Mall calls CyHi (1:59:20), a Julius Randle call (2:23:00), and MUCH MORE! For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks of the Episode Joe | Manny Wellz - “So Good” Rory | Emotional Oranges - “Body & Soul” (Ft. Biig Piig) Mal | Chase Fetti - “Show Me”  Parks | Devin the Dude - “P.L.A.N.S.A.” (Ft. Tony Mac)

It ain't that type of black. Nah, it's a school zone. Exactly. They would never ride with a car in a school zone. Nah, they wouldn't do that. Not over there. They not disrespecting the guard like that. They would never disrespect those kids' education.

They wouldn't do that. School ain't even in session. This is great. Yes, it is. What you talking about? This is great. They from the Zoomies. Yo, before the mics went on, we was talking about cars and shit.

I said to Maul, I can't wait till he gets a car. And part of why I said that, I've got my George Jefferson out. Now I know how LeBron feel again. Again? When was the first time you felt like? When was the first time you felt brawny? Took a sandwich to Miami. That's when you felt him?

I'll play it for you. Okay him I'll play it for you okay I'll play it for you I'll let you know uh Rory was Rory was 13 when I said it something like that

it's young LeBron but it's still room for Darko and Carmelo I did I gave Joe was giving him that sauce Darko

you the only rapper to rap Darko Darko had a great career from that second pick Darko remember Darko Milicic only rapper to rap Darko. Darko had a great career from that second pick. Darko. Remember Darko Milicic? Oh, yeah. Pistons came up.

I remember they brought Darko to the room. Come on, man. I was your 12. Come on, man. Now niggas just think I be potting. Niggas just think

I'm a potter. Damn. Come on, Darko. Darko. Darko Milicic. Who's that dude? Rory's Darko. Now he's AK-47. If you'd ever call me Darko Milicek Who's that dude He's AK-47 If you ever call me

Darko Milicek When he was called Sean Bradley We gonna fight So I wanted I wanted Maul To get a car Because I feel like

You know Maul is guarded And sheltered And shit So I feel like Certain moves Will help me Clown his personality

More Like It don't matter what car he get. Still jokes coming. Oh, I'm killing him. That's what niggas is for? I am killing him. You have to get like an X8?

He going to get something. The biggest X? He getting something where the gas pedal raises. Like, he wanted, um, you need the gas pedal up high. He needs the light emblem when you open the door. You feel me? He got weird requests like that You want the seat to go up higher Than it normally goes

I think that's standard now But it's okay It's standard in every car You know what I mean I seen you inquiring about When Tom Brady posted his old Escalade You was like Ooh that's the swag I need

And Meeks You want a Meeks old shit You want a Meeks old Escalade Right You was like, ooh, that's the swag I need. And Meeks, you wanted Meeks old shit. You wanted Meeks old Escalade. Right? Post for inspiration, remember? No, I don't remember.

What you would've told him, huh? Nothing. I'm the one nobody told me. Dreams and nightmares on repeat. Y'all are stupid. What'd you think Meeks

used to ride around in? You guessed it, this. You think I would tell somebody? I don't know what you said. Tell us, Shorty, once you get in the car. I don't know what you're saying. You know you're stowing this?

When you get in your car. You know you're stowing this? You guessed it. Mills. So, Maul was saying that. That is who Rory want a used car from, J. Mills. Shout out to Mills. A little shout niggas out.

I like J. Mills. He's my nigga. Who I hit trying to buy that used car one of them giant niggas that was Dion Dion

it was on defense but boy that car was beautiful to me anyway Maul said he'll buy a car when he gets a safe place

to store it because he's worried that reasonable people will take it from him if he's parking on the street that's what i heard i'm not saying what you said i'm saying what i heard okay that's what you heard okay you don't want to say he needs a garage he needs a garage why do people need garages because if you have a nice car you don't live somewhere parking is terrible can't find a park You got to keep circling the block. Nobody want to keep going. Or when it snows like it just did.

It should get snowed in. I see what he did. He took the wind off the front. I heard it like, because when you get parked, it's terrible. When you get parked? It's terrible.

When they knock you out? It's terrible, right? They can drive off with your shit. Yeah. Money. When you get parked, it's terrible. It was parallel parked. That's horrible. A nigga lay you get parked, it's terrible. It was parallel parked.

That's horrible. Nigga lay you out in front of the building. In front of your building? Now you got PTSD every time you walk out your own house. Nigga knock you out

in front of your building. That's tough. You can't go home. Yeah, you can't go home no more. You was at home. That's what sucks. And who would knock you out in front of your building?

Like a neighbor? Someone that had to drop. Or someone that conveniently saw you park your X7 in front of your crib all nonchalantly. Look at him parking like it's safe. We go outside and knock him the fuck out. He thought it was a school zone, so it's okay. That was the craziest excuse I ever heard. Yeah.

That's how it go. I know it's bad parking over there because after a certain time, teachers leave, it's over. No parking. Here, Parks, battery in there. Let's see if it gets charged up now. You didn't like that line? You heard him. You heard, clown it.

The artwork was a charged up phone. I liked it. Clown It. I'm here. Clown It. They got to deal with me. I went to Detroit. They got to deal with me now.

Came back with some energy? I went out there. Come on, man. Went out there, did the knowledge. Give us the eight year old. What'd they put you on to? Chill, chill. Got some Jets pizza.

Checked in with your trick? I did get some Jets. I love Jets. Yeah, that's my shit. Roy's put me on to that shit. The jalapeno on there and all that shit. They got a Detroit pizza spot

in the city now. Yes. Detroit style, yeah. I had the Sunny Jim. Ay-yo. The Sunny Jim? It's a pizza, Roy. I'm just saying ay-yo.

You can get the gay thoughts. It's been week 93 with you. I'm just saying you can get the gay thoughts it's been week 93 with you I didn't say anything on the gay thoughts popping up in your head I just said ayo

yo push the table back come on let's just do it let's get to it yo come on let's get but help with the nigga move the table get that side get that side

one two three yeah let's get it on nigga fuck that that's how you know niggas oh you move the table it's a smoothie Get that side. Let's get it on. That's how you know niggas. Oh, you move the table, it's a smoothie. Ain't no fighting nothing down here. You know what I mean? Let me get back healthy.

Just vitamins. Let me get back healthy on these dudes. All right, hold up, man. Let me pay some homage. Pay some homage right quick. Let's see if this thing is on. Come on, man. Turbulence is the price you pay For flying high

Through all the hell and high water You kept us You brought us to this point Regardless of what we had to deal with 1-2-1-2 No need for an introduction Y'all know who it is And y'all know what time it is

High vibrations High frequencies only Let me get the EQs right on my guy From where the gangsters die young in the rest of fast yes sir so when my shooter spray this Mac live shadow round round like who gives a fuck about you see the million I'm the New Testament the last five chapter okay and God said he would come back by rapture The Lord even lets me lie by the pastures So I never told the truth till the plane closed There's a flashback of bullet holes in my Durango Better have a raincoat if we ever see the bastards next to pink sleeping pills What happened? Premonition.

I hate when that happens in rap. Oh. Yeah, I hate when that happens in rap. With the powder and the sifter. Stepping on the dope like an alpha-fi alpha. My bitch screaming skee-wee. All about the cream and wheat. Taylor made niggas. Everything ain't what it seem to be.

Sure we being dreams, niggas. I'm a file for G-Wheat. Me and Jay feel like GM if you bleep to me. The only difference is it cost a little more to speak to me. I'm proud of the Kiwi Hey! Shut up, Si! Yes And that's the second, my mind's a Mac 11 I might not hit nothin' but y'all know that I was present See me in the bear in the woods, they helped the bear then My life is Leonardo and the Revenant Listenin' to Lead playin', I ain't talkin' Zeppelin Boston George before we got to blow, I'm out here Johnny Deppin'

The only thing the police gon' find on me is a weapon Blessings, never believe in luck Read the signs at the lake You told you don't feed the duck So keep it up, huh And you'll be back to selling cuties In the hood you get shot at You go out like Fela Cheri, say amen What a way to start a fucking album No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, bike to business. Episode 420, high vibrations, high frequencies only. No need for intro. Y'all should know what time it is.

Shout out to our first and last time listeners. Gang is back. Rory is here. Mole is here. Parks is here. E-Rab is here. Savon is here. Alex the Great is here.

I want to shout out to the app that powers us, empowers us, sponsors us, tolerates us, puts up with us. None other than the greatest app in the world, Cash App. Gentlemen, how's everybody doing? How you feeling? What's going on? Talk to me. How was your weekend? What's happening? Weekend was a little eventful, but everything's cool. Eventful weekend. Yeah. What happened, bro? My apartment got flooded, but lost karma

because you used to flood the streets. Yes, bro. Roy worked on that one for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just said it.

What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, yeah. It's cool. that was pre-pro.

Other than that, it's cool. He was writing down his notes. Yeah, yeah. I've seen him in his phone. Scribbling in your notepad, it's cool. He was writing down his notes. Yeah, yeah, you know. I've seen him in his phone. Scribbling in your notepad, creating your life. Y'all are stupid.

Hey, is that what Parks thinks of Rory? He scribbled in his notepad and created his life? Yeah. We showed you your first tap, Rory. It wasn't on the large professor tour I'll tell you that So your shit got flooded you think? Yeah yeah

Crip got flooded Lost a bunch of my sneakers And some clothes Damn It's all good I'm not sure I saved the Holy Grails though I had to get out the shower

I heard The alarm was going off I didn't know what was going on You just felt something About the Holy Grails Was like happening Yeah grabbed it. The important sneakers.

The important pieces, you got to grab. Oh, I thought you meant the whole album. No, that's in my phone. My phone was safe. I thought you went to grab the whole thing. The disc. The CD. The Holy Grails.

The physical. Not the vinyl. Oh, no. Not the album from the Samsung phone. Yeah, nah. I had to grab the most important sneakers. You From the Samsung phone Yeah nah Had to grab the Most important You saved the Android Yeah

Grabbed the most Important sneakers Look what Maul grabs In a flood Not a family member No Not a picture I'm so alone

Nigga niece was dying Dying Nah I grabbed my passport I grabbed the most Important sneakers And made sure they was In plastic bags Cause that's all you need to travel.

That's it. Shop when you land, man. That's why I wasn't tripping. I'm still able to put a fit together with some rares on the wheels. Yeah, you know, these are one of the few that made it, man. You know what I'm saying? One of the few that made it. Now, is the fray on the Nike check from the flood or that was predestined?

No, this is predestined right here. These are the Black History Month, so I believe these are the blood of my ancestors so watch your mouth. That's true, okay. I'll go over here. Watch your mouth. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, Joe?

Look how the whites are. It's still Black History Month. I know it's March but don't get it twisted. It's Women's Month too. It's always Women's Month. Of course. Every month.

We love the women. It's always Black History Month. Don't deflect from the blacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, they still try to take it off the ground. Black women. I love black women don't just say women

but black women black women mom that's great big one up right now then all of them smart I like it it's ready it's God's focus right here

I hate Azalea Banks love list we're back to another list of hers I hate her love list did you see her list no I didn't it's a list of

wait did I finish intro on this shit y'all was good y'all no no no let's stay right here what's the love list. Did you see her list? No, I didn't. It's a list of love. Wait, did I finish intro on this shit? Y'all was good, y'all. No, no, no. Let's stay right here. What's the love list? Yeah, we talked about them already. Don't worry about it.

Are you listening? Then shut up. And who's spelling the words on our subtitle on YouTube? Enough now. Who is it? It's you. It's Snug Nose.

It's Snug Nose. It's Snug Nose. Huh? Yeah. That's YouTube. it's snug nose it's snug nose huh yeah that's YouTube that's YouTube YouTube is doing it I'm so confused you talking about like

closed captions on the clip yes the closed captions that's not a person doing it yes who is it Drew Drew

alright got it we're gonna talk about I'll call Drew later yeah look somebody wait a minute Azealia put out a love list and I'm not on it

nah I don't like that that's a little crazy Azealia Banks was told by her cord cutter healer holistic person

that she spends so much time hating why doesn't she make a list of people that she loves so she did that and I agree with that sometimes writing things out really helps really just helps that she spends so much time hating, why doesn't she make a list of people that she loves? So she did that. And I agree with that.

Sometimes writing things out really helps, really just helps things. It does. It does. So she wrote down a list of all the people that she loves. And I hate who she loves. Why? There's some, there's some,

there's some good people. I love Stiles P. Yeah, Angel Scott. Jewels. And Whitney Houston. Lamb, she loves lamb chops. You P Jewels She loves lamb chops All this podcast does is step on my opinion Thank you for that

Thank you for highlighting The people that y'all love I have people I love to on the list I'm talking about her love list As a whole I hate it Even the names that I love I'm mad that they're mixed in

with some of these names that I hate. So if you guys take a minute. Oh, well, who do you hate? Who cares? If you guys just take... The people. Make a hate list.

If you guys just take two seconds to observe the list. I observed it. Larry David. And you came away with an opinion, which is your name is not there, so you hate it too.

See? I feel some type of way. I understand. Now you guys take a second to observe the list and you guys tell me how you guys feel about it. I hate it.

I hate it. Name number four, Donald Trump. All right, cool. Wait, wait, watch your mouth, buddy. Well, she kind of put them all there. I mean,

which is cool until I get to Ella Fitzgerald and I'm like, wait, wait a minute. There's some hypocrisy. Dude, these names don't matter. Boy, there's hypocrisy. She loves everywhere. She loves everybody. Then I went further. I was like, Shakira,

nah, I dig it. I understand. What other names I had a problem with on here? What I did come away with is she likes very colorful personalities. Look at the people. Billy Idol, Cam, T-Pain. there's a lot of really colorful personalities on here yeah look candace owens alma rosa see i don't i don't mind that but

reading shocker Vladimir Putin reading reading yo Azealia is the greatest man AB is the fucking greatest, man This list is crazy Yo, going Just that list from Vladimir And then right below it Amber Rose Love is everywhere

I can see how you'd follow up Nah, the range Look at the range Alright Yeah, Vladimir and Amber Rose Have the same haircut So it's all good Y'all don't think it's a problem

When somebody could fit Everybody they love On one sheet of paper? We'll also define love. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Move it right along, man. Versus, right?

Everybody they love on one sheet of paper. Mine would be shorter than that. Y'all don't have to worry about it. I could easily fit all the people I love on a sheet of paper. On a sticky pad.

It would have been a sticky pad for me. I could write that on the palm of my hand. That's not pad. It would have been a sticky pad for me. I could write that on the palm of my hand. That's not true. I know. Well, not in the love. This appears to be people

that she admires. I don't know about love. Yeah. She don't know all these people? Omarosa and Sister Soldier being in the same column. I like it.

It's range, man. I wouldn't understand. Look at the range. Versatile. Jocelyn Hernandez. Come on, man. She's entertaining. Dennis Rodman. I got it. Alright, I didn't want to start there, but just a quick little highlight. She's on my love list. I love Azealia. Great. Great person.

She's on mine, too, via mail. Won't be direct communication between her and I. Snail mail? We'll be pen pals. Hey. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah.

Learned my lesson there. All right. The moment. Don't you do it. Introduce the next topic. Okay. Sorry. Are we going to go ahead?

Yeah. Okay. All right. sorry are we going here? yeah alright the moment that Rory waited his whole life for that's true and didn't even catch it live totally forgot about it no I remembered it I was just in a place that didn't have wifi at the time or good 5G but I did go back and watch it

D'Angelo's versus kind of D'Angelo with friends D'Angelo it. D'Angelo versus kind of. D'Angelo. With friends. D'Angelo versus desk. D'Angelo versus live streams. Here's the thing. If you're going to change your entire structure of your platform for an artist, you shouldn't rush it with someone that waits 14 years to put out an album. This person takes some time to put things together.

This entire thing felt rushed to completely change how Versus goes and then rush it, I think, was the bad move. I don't care who the artist was, period. This felt rushed. Didn't feel together. Felt like y'all scrambled. The friends thing didn't even feel friends-ish. There was a lot of friends. It felt awkward. We were the friends.

I don't know. Big fan. You don't know if you're a friend? Big fan. I'm about growing verses where it's not just one song versus one song. There's other ways to do it. I get all that, but don't just rush it when you're changing how this platform has worked and thrived so far.

You didn't need to rush it. This was not entertaining. You didn't need to rush it. I was not entertained. I understand that maybe D'Angelo, you had him for that week. And when you have D'Angelo for a week, that's the only week you're going to have him, maybe for 10 years. Still don't think it was necessary to do. Yeah, I'm with you on that um it was great when

we found out d'angelo was doing the verses only because we haven't seen d'angelo or heard from him in a few years quite a long time actually um but then as it got closer and the friends wasn't announced we started some thinking and it was like, okay, what exactly is happening? And we spoke to Mr. Larry Jackson and he told us, he called him a snow leopard, I believe. He's a snow leopard, yeah. A unicorn, about two or three times he called him a unicorn and told us to buckle up and prepare for the ride of our lives. He did not say buckle up. He did say buckle up.

I think he said buckle up. He said, I can't tell you what's going to happen. Because I was buckled up. Yeah. I know I didn't come from nowhere. Yeah. He was like, buckle up. He said, I can't tell you what's going to happen. Because I was buckled up. Yeah. I know I didn't come from nowhere. Yeah. He was like, buckle up. So we buckled up.

And when D'Angelo came out, he let us know exactly who the friends in D'Angelo versus friends were. And he let us know that we're his friends. They're the best recappers. So, I mean, this to me was was This just wasn't Entertaining at all No This was very bad

In my opinion I mean it's D'Angelo So yes we heard some Classic songs that we love Of course But I think they set the bar With the whole Apollo theater And the name being on the marquee

Leading up to it We thought that this was Going to be Epic One of the most Entertaining verses That we we thought that this was going to be epic one of the most entertaining verses that we've seen and this was very underwhelming as far as i'm concerned in my humble opinion because listen i've i don't have a versus to do so i can't shit on somebody that

has versus but this was not entertaining in comparison to most of the other verses I cut this shit off that we've seen it's just the verses thing you have to no honestly it's tricky because this is a professional podcaster right here

no listen it's tricky because you have to be somebody you can have records but with these acts like that we don't see or hear from in years it's dangerous

because you just don't know what to expect. So somebody like D'Angelo, legend. Absolutely. One of the greatest R&B artists, songwriters, producers. Big facts. But when they don't show their face or pop out for years, it's like the whole nostalgic feel, yeah, we haven't seen him, so it's exciting to see D'Angelo.

But this is just underwhelming man this wasn't this wasn't entertaining at all I didn't enjoy this it just felt like it was uh people were getting calls probably the day of hey can you pull up to the Apollo it felt like that yeah like we didn't know who was showing up because they didn't know who was showing up so I just it just this wasn't it and i you know i don't know how they're gonna bounce back from this but i think the versus thing might be tapering off a little bit i think it might be on the on the decline at this point i think so i think it was dope during the quarantine when we all inside and it was a small thing but i think once it turns into this big production

it takes a little luster out of it yeah i think I think that's what we're saying. I'm not about to say one dud off everything that they've done means it's tapering off. I can't judge someone off one bad situation. It defines where they're going or what they've done. This wasn't the only dud. It wasn't the only dud,

but I think that there may be some truth to the fact that it's, unless they adapt it pretty significantly, because people just aren't at home the same way. How many more duds do you guys think they have? That's what I was about to ask. But I just said

this was the only dud. Well, I'm asking which ones. I think of, I know another dud and that's where my dud list stops. Jagged Edge and 112 was a dud. Oh, that's third. That's the third one.

I think this was. See, that's the third dud. All right, I got three dubs. I mean, is that the word we're using? Yeah, I got three duds. What's your third? the word we're using? Yeah, I got three duds. What's your third? I'm not saying.

Okay. Well, yeah. It is right there. How many have they done? That's a pretty good percentage. Sean Garrett? That wasn't a dud. That was definitely not a dud.

That has established the brand. I'll show you when it comes up. Wait, I didn't even know that. That didn't count. That didn't count. It wasn't a versus. Keep going. The Manny Fresh versus Scott Short was a bad matchup. Boy, it wasn't a dud. It wasn't a versus. Keep going. The Manny Fresh versus Scott Stewart was a bad matchup.

Boy wanted to hit. Boy wasn't a versus either. It wasn't a dud. It was still good, though. I won't call Fab and kiss a dud. No, it was great. That was entertaining. Babyface and Teddy Riley was great both times.

I won't say the one. It's not important, but it'll come up and I'll point to the screen. Well, then I'll just say it. Go point. Let's get some edge back to this podcast that wasn't the one for me oh that doesn't matter

I hated Alicia Keys and John Legend oh alright and I didn't want to say that because of my respect for both of them of course

and their families like they're in that listen let's be clear we respect anybody that's called for versus you're a legend we don't even have to debate that.

But that one wasn't for me. But this shit with D'Angelo. Say it. Well, while you're trying to get the words together, we are not defining this amazing platform off three alleged duds. This shit is great. I don't think it's going to taper off just because one bad situation happened. I just think it's going to taper off because I think that the world is going to start to open up a little bit more.

And people are probably not going to be at home the way that we were during the height of Versus. Right. And not only that, I don't think that, I don't think, who else would you call that, you know what I'm saying? The list is starting to get short. Yeah, because a lot of the people that we love, they're not doing this. Well, I think this can end up being really cool once, I think we're close to outside somewhat opening. And I think this could be a cool thing that they could live stream and people could actually go to. This is a cool, you can do the same shit over.

You could do, I'd go to Swizz and Tim versus at an arena. All right, I'm going to rapid fire my opinions off because I don't want us to spend too much time. This is not a versus cast. Can we call Larry back? I'm not going fire my opinions off because I don't want us to spend too much time this is not a versus cast I'm not gonna call Larry right this second I'm gonna continue with the Larry say I screenshot of that shit when he said it I just want to say what he said all right I'll try to rapid fire my snow leopard after his brain and I'm leading with love to I'm gonna always always love I'm a lean on on azalea bank swag right now and just list some things that i all right it opened with uh scratch opened up and while i love

scratching all that he does has done and represents in hip-hop boy bad time for scratch to open up for me i love this opening set but i understand why r&b lover maybe not so much because he was he he was doing some R&B stuff too, but it was more of a hip-hop DJing set. I think that's generous. Okay. A hip-hop DJ set is when hip-hop records are played. He literally scratched every verse and every hook of every song that came on which is could be awesome somewhere else for R&B act to be about to grace the stage I understand it's D'Angelo I know it's hip-hop times it was a lot for me I did a lot of muting

and unmuting during the opening set but again I had guests over watching it was vibey in my living room i had the leds on oh yeah it's fucking vibe it wasn't time for scratchy scratch all these records cool d'angelo comes out oh before d'angelo comes out the whole leaning on us filming and taping in the Apollo Theater. I mean, when Patty and Gladys did that at the theater in Philly, the way that they were positioned on the stage, it was the backdrop. They put the backdrop behind the stage where it normally goes. This was reversed, and it was weird for me. The carpet was distracting.

It was a lot going on. I feel you. You can barely tell that it's at the Apollo. Yeah, that didn't do it any justice. If you're at the Apollo and you're promoting that, then find a different way for that to come across. Some people may say, I'm nitpicking, let me move on. D'Angelo comes out and the very first record lost me a little bit.

Lost me a little bit. Lost me a little bit. I don't think that's the first record if he has an opponent across from him. Definitely not. It was an untitled new song. Oh, well, that would explain it. Yeah. That wouldn't happen if there were an opponent across from him.

Now... Not first. Some of the people I spoke to behind the scenes who shall remain anonymous larry did their best no this wasn't larry i spoke to a bunch of other people that did their best to say to me that maxwell may have been afraid of d'angelo and for a minute i leaned into that i don't like that i don't like that but. But let me just finish my point before I forget. I understand the competitive nature of our business, and I know that fear is the first assumption we run to when there is a cancellation. I totally get that.

After watching, no one can convince me that Maxwell was afraid to face D'Angelo once he saw D'Angelo's list. I just would have a hard time believing that personally. I don't knock anybody else's thoughts on it. No. I can't see him being afraid. I have a hard time rolling with that one. Maxwell has jams.

I'm definitely not rolling with that. Maxwell is not afraid of any of these Harvey acts that are out here, except for one who we will not name because of their past and their history. We don't talk about him anymore. And if this was the list, well, everybody's getting him. That don't count. To me, that would be the only person that Maxwell wouldn't want to. But after looking at the list, and granted,

I don't know if this list was the same list. I don't think this would have been his 20 had he been battling against him. I don't think so either. I don't think so either. Love, Met and Ref. I don't think Left and Right is coming in as 20. Met and Ref came out, and I wanted to hear Rockwell. I did.

They didn't do it. Cool. Cool. But, I mean, that would have been nice if it's D'Angelo and Friends. Rory made the point earlier, why would they do that song? For me, because when you put the and Friends there, it opens things up for you to be able to play with some some different things um y'all know how i feel about her so no need for me to talk about that yeah i thought she'd agree but this like rory i'm not gonna cancel versus

because of three duds nor do i think that they only ascended because of the state of the country and the pandemic i don't believe. Do I think that projections may lower if everybody's outside and the country opens back up? Certainly, but I'm never going to doubt the power of hip hop to centralize millions of people in one place without all of these marketing and promotion dollars. Well, no, like Rory said, it's only because this was birthed because we couldn't see these people live.

People couldn't perform live. So it was birth was birth from that and as things start opening up and we're able to now get back in these venues and see our favorite acts again naturally this will fade out like no I wouldn't I'm not gonna sit at home on my phone when I can go catch the same but that's not but that's not that's not the inevitable evolution of when you say naturally like i was birthed because my mom made my dad a cake one night but that what has to happen after that don't necessarily have to be what you're saying like yeah maybe they can start doing these live and people but listen i don't want to go back you can hear things twice yeah i don't want to go back and forth with you, Maul, because I do have a similar take, but for different reasons, and I don't indict verses in mine.

When you get with corporate, and I've taken y'all down this path enough, so I'll spare you, but I'm putting a lot of this on corporate. From my own eyes, not asking anybody else to agree or assume the same way i have seen things in social media that lead me to believe for months now that there might be something going on behind the curtain i'm not mad at that well i can i can certainly see uh Swizz and Tim getting a hold of D'Angelo and D'Angelo saying, yo, I'm down. They get Maxwell.

Maxwell backs out for whatever reason we don't know. And Apple going, so? We have D'Angelo. I don't care about your structure here. I know the amount of views it gets and how much money we make every time you guys do anything with verses. And you have D'Angelo. Have him go there and sing and just i can see apple doing that

what no no they just pushed back the um ashanti and um keisha battle a million times not the same not even remotely close to the same no because they both they had two parties already in agreeance to do it no and it was a it was a there were health issues it's a difference which is insurance but i don't think apple was doing that and getting a hold of Ashanti and Keisha Cole is way easier than getting a hold of D'Angelo

and getting him to agree to do anything if Ashanti come in there with COVID if they didn't do their due diligence and anybody gets sick then no

it's not the same at all no it's not the same but I don't think Apple was telling somebody I don't care if you don't have anybody to battle D'Angelo

that sounds like exactly what the corporate would say to me. I don't know if they'd word it that way, but they would say, hey, we know how much money we make. You have D'Angelo agreeance. Who knows if he'll agree to this in two months when we finally get Maxwell to agree or another opponent. I believe...

Yeah, you have D'Angelo. We have the Apollo booked already. Y'all are going out there. No, I believe Apple to care more about their brand and how they look than anything. They're not going to just roll out some bullshit. And I also don't think Apple thought this was going to be bad. I don't think they were like, oh, it's going to be shitty, but we'll be fine. I think they were banking on-

I think everyone was confident in this. I think they were banking on people just showing up to have a mutual love and respect and a certain type of relationship with D'Angelo. I think they were banking on people showing up and just doing a record or two. I think that's what they were leaning on. Banking on people showing up and just doing a record or two. I think that's what they were leaning on. And as it got closer to the day, people started saying, oh, you know, I'm pulling out. I can't do it.

I can't show up. I'm out here. I can't fly into New York. Whatever. Like, I think that's what happened. I see Apple execs going, you have D'Angelo, the Apollo, and the Versus community that comes out every single time you guys go live. Go do it. I don't even want us to spend too much time on this because it wasn't the biggest of cultural moments like but it could have been it could because we haven't seen d'angelo in years

it could have been if it were a proper verses right that's all i'm saying oh i totally agree that's all i'm saying we haven't seen d'angelo in years he's one of our favorite artists a classic records so we were looking forward to this. You know what I mean? Like we were. Yo, I hate to get into my combo that we was talking about off air, man. But even as D'Angelo was up there with the funny hat on, with the buffalo looking coat. He was dressed like you. With the shingles, with the funny Chelsea boots or whatever's going on up there, right? Yeah. And some people on the internet were clowning him.

But that's D'Angelo. I don't know why they clown. That's him. Men out there, D'Angelo Paws was a tough out. He was tough to deal with. At some point, they showed the how does it feel video and shit on the Apple screen. And all I could think was, man, I remember that era. Shit, I see.

I remember that era. I remember this. Excited about the intro. She got to chill out, right? She got to chill out. How do you react when that happens? That happens a lot. Why do women do that right next to their significant other?

Why do they do that? They don't even care. They don't even think about us or nothing. I just want to test to see exactly how jealous. Women like to see their man get a little jealous.

I think women like that. I got man crushes though, so I'll be... Excuse me? I'll be fanning out with her. Oh, okay. He does look great. Let a Zac Efron movie come on.

Babe, do you think he'll take his shirt off again? Yo, Rory. Cut it out, man. Don't act like you've never bonded with your girl over a dude. I've never bonded with a man. Oh, all right. Bonded with a woman. You're cool, my bad.

You're cool. You're cool. Over a man? What's wrong with y'all, bro? What's wrong? No, I don't have a man crush next part we're gonna change the seat

okay alright but you don't see how that like the opinions like they way in the room it's like the Titanic I like it though

I like it and also I'm shocked that you Joe sitting here like you have not bonded with a woman over a dude that y'all both liked that was an entertainer we've never liked the same dude that's why you have different tastes that's why

i was relating to what parks is uh saying because like i've watched the movie uh with a young lady and she went wild over vin diesel and i'm like when i went to see i am legend and will smith worked out for a little bit whoever that was that was with me they went a little too wild i wasn't into it like Like, I wasn't. Like, relax yourself. Yeah, like, those be the guys. I told y'all I dated somebody who was real big on Dwayne Wade back in the day.

Like, it'd be some of those. I've never, oh, he was. So, Will. The Rock is my guy. Will Smith is not your type. Okay, fair enough. I've said that years ago on this pod. But you trying to make me be gay with you.

No. And I'm not. Because Zach Ephron, my nigga. Anyway. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

Because that's what I pulled from. That's your guy? That's what I pulled from, man. Bro, you said I love him. Zach. Hey, pull him up for me. Let me see. No, don't get me excited.

Bro, you said I love him. Because maybe I'm thinking of the wrong Zach. Bro, get the fuck out of here, man. Who the fuck is this? Oh, that's a handsome man. No, beard Zach Efron. Without the beard, he looks like a molester. Is this Jesse from Full House?

He played the serial killer. Who was the serial killer? Ted Bundy. Who was the attractive serial killer? Yeah, he played Ted Bundy, man. How is that not your MCM? What? Man, that's his man. I can't tell him who his man crush should be. You got another high chair?

I do. A high chair? I'm going to tell him who his man crush should be. I'm going to sit behind you. This is man crush. What you want me to do? I'll be cool if I just find out

how y'all will start your verse. I don't even need the bars no more on this part. I'm done forcing people to do things they don't want to do. But if y'all tell me how it starts I'll write them on You just need to use the first four words

I rap on this podcast So you know what time it is Check this out man Your man is back at it Who's that? Your man is back at it My man, our man Friend of the show

Sy High, our guy Sy High Our guy I was glad to see Saha was feeling better though because I had brought him up a couple episodes ago and it was like

you know the whole incident the accident thing yeah so it was good to see him in better spirits a little bandaged up but you know

he's good glad he's active yeah he had he had some interesting dialogue on No Jumper with Adam-22. Choice words, if you will. Adam-22, Parks and Rory led him into culture. That was us?

Come on, buddy. It's great over here. They're friendly. They're friendly. But yeah, some choice of words Some choice words Words of choice I get right to it man

Chosen words That's right Who you calling? That's right I was calling to get right to the bottom of it The culture's calling him too I was calling right to get to the bottom of it Call S culture's calling him, too. I was calling right to get to the bottom of it. Call Saha.

I don't have Saha's number. You got it? I can get it. Yo. This is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden Podcast. May I speak to Adam22, please? Hello, Joe Budden. How are you doing?

I am well. I am well. How are you? Excellent. Just about to do an interview with Aaron Carter. It I am well. How are you? Excellent. Just about to do an interview with Aaron Carter. It's probably similar to the way you're on. No, I would never interview Aaron Carter. No, it's Aaron Carter.

Interviews are fucking hysterical. I'm going to put a pin in that. Really? Yes. See, these white boys are late. Adam, we're about to do a segment on you interviewing Sahai. So I wanted to call you to figure out why you think Sahai said all that to you about me. Do you think you went in?

Because he just said real quick that he would say or whatever. You can't divide black kings. No, I don't think he went in. I thought he was fine. But I'm asking you because you was there. You think I'm the one to just call out fresh out there? You know what I mean? What you think?

I mean, you're a non-participant at this point, right? So it can't be that scary. So then why do you media people ask active rappers about retired rappers? Because I saw this question. You got to, hey, do you think Joe's a worthy? Well, yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it. Yeah, no, I, you know, I just wanted to get some follow-up thoughts on him.

I noticed that you guys had that little back and forth, and then you guys have spoken about him very flatteringly since then. He's a good guy. So I was just trying to figure out where the energy was at. It's also weird that you guys had that conversation like pre-versus. Also, Aaron Carter is right here, and I feel like he's probably gonna interrupt this conversation but listen you have fun you go ahead i just lost half my audience with that announcement even all right enjoy your day man have a good interview man hey much love joe thanks

all right so i have this clip here. Let's see. Let's see. Here we go. But even just the idea of you and Joe Budden. I would demolish Joe Budden though. Just to be honest, like Joe Budden, I don't want to do no beats battle with Joe Budden. I need to look you in the face on smack stage, something like that. Tell him to sit up. So I had a half a ticket.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I got a half a ticket. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I got a half a ticket. But do you consider him an elite level MC? Absolutely. That's why I know I destroy him. Do you consider him an elite? I studied Joe Budden. I already know.

He don't know me, though. He don't know how deep this. You gave him the pamphlet. And then when I get into my feelings, like when I get into my. Hand it over the notes. Yeah, I think Maul gave him the pitch joe pamphlet he had been a walked off the stage before i didn't even know he was off the stage like oh damn bro i was still going i'm gonna yeah brother might be out of practice too it's been a few years hey

and that ain't just for joe button that's for any artist i think they can go with me one that's what i'm relishing I think they can go with me one. That's what I'm relishing When I'm looking a man in his face That's one note. What up? Boy, it's different. Talk my shit again. It's different. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying. Listen. He's in shape, though.

He's still in shape. That's what I'm saying. No. No. That's what he said. No, I'm not in shape. But they wouldn't play like that with him. With him.

I don't know about me. Pray me with your thoughts. Just never speak to me. One gun to come. You buy prayers. I never need you. Oh, my. I was praying I didn't need mine.

Oh, man. Here we praying I didn't need mine. Oh, man. Here it comes. You got down on your knees and praying I didn't need mine. I love you, man. Burning flesh, skin peeling, slow inferno. Take away what we love. We'd all beat your patrol. Listen, this is what I'm saying.

And I'm so glad that this occurred. Because I don't even get my mojo until a rapper says my name. Right? But I can't do nothing with this, man i'm gonna do with this i i'm retired get back in shape pen rusty now come on give me a rocky four moment walked off the the battle stage with hollow i'm in no position if you guys don't stop booing yo get your shit up i'm sorry say what you said about saha off mic when it came to this topic what did i say say it again don't stop booing. Yo, get this. Shut up. I'm sorry. Say what you said about Saha off mic when it came to this topic. What did I say? Say it again. Don't worry about it.

Tell me what I said. I can't record. What'd I say? Oh, we're going to talk about it in a minute. Yeah, tell me. Oh, the post he made. Oh, yeah. No, I just thought it was.

No, we can do it. We can do it. Not yet. Not yet. Yeah, so I'm in no predicament to do this. And I'm not going to bore podcast listeners or try to rehype old Joe Budden fans like music is coming. We're not doing this.

It's just interesting when you hear it come up in different interviews. I get goosebumps when I hear it. Because you're from the culture. That's what the culture is based on is battling. I get goosebumps because I'm not used to it. Is that what this was? I'm not. Are you saying, was this your reply to Sy?

Pull that up fast. Rory didn't have an opinion until now. All right. No, I was going to ask you before you pulled that up. Do you think Sia said that because he knows you're retired? You think he'd have extra sauce, a little toot on his voice? I don't think Sia would say a word to me if I was active. I think he would.

I think he would. He wouldn't. Because rappers have. And rappers that don't rap as good as Sia have come at you when you were in your prime. We've had that talk, though, before. It ain't just about that. No, it's not. It's not.

But I think Saha is from the same cloth you from. I don't think he'll run from anybody. When it comes to just pinning and going in the booth, I think Saha does. I think he's one of the sickest, man. You're never going to hear me say a bad word about Saha's pen, but that's what makes it exciting for me. What I will promise you, though, Saha, if the day ever comes where I decide to get the dust off the old pen,

you got a 97 and a half coming your way. Talk that shit. What's on the half, though? That's all I'm going to say. He got something coming to him. 97 and a half. If that ever happens, 2026, happens 2026 gonna dig you up somewhere where he at

but all jokes aside we glad to saw her as well for sure yeah for sure his first interview back he right at my neck it's up again

I would get up again well to be fair he was asked he was asked your name was brought up to him and he just responded yeah but he responded like it was right back up. But I think dope lyricists and dope MCs only do that.

He's from that cloth. Yeah, when dope MCs are mentioned. And then it's like, okay. Y'all say he from that cloth. Shut up. He is. I think he is. Y'all still can't tell me how y'all verse start.

Shut up. We're not from that cloth. I'm not a rapper. So then how would you know that cloth? Oh, I know. Ain't enough cloth for all of us to be cut from it. That's very true. up we're not from that cloth so then how could how would you know that cloth oh i know enough cloth for all of us to be cut from it yeah that's very true you were 15 when that was there you were older you understood that one you're like what cloth does he mean i was like 27 when you

said that uh shout out to sy glad he's well uh what else is going on Oh shit yeah Come on more Get your shit off Yeah so in the interview He had mentioned that Yeah and so In the interview Say it as it pertains To my greatness

How you feel about Ian following Saha Being the first like Ops Yeah that's kinda crazy I thought you was gonna Hit Adam with the I don't care what Saha said, why he said it.

Why is he so comfortable saying it to you? That meme traveled around the globe 17 times. Saha says, I'm sitting on one of the greatest albums ever recorded in rap music history, and I'm looking for a label to partner with to help me put it out the proper way. Let me know if you are interested, please. He didn't put a please there, but it sounds like begging for mercy that is a sick post read the caption oh shit ties it together since my journey started in music i've always considered

i've always been considered one of the best rappers in the world but a lot of times where i'm from atlanta georgia or who I've been signed to in the past, hinders me from getting the opportunity I deserve. Oh, he's snitching. I'm done with him. Hold on, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Stop, stop. Stop for a second. Let's break down this first sentence. A lot of the times where I'm from, Atlanta, Georgia, one of the most thriving

hip-hop communities in the world. The black Hollywood, I believe is what they call it. Where everyone's moving to. Or where I've been signed. Some of the biggest thriving hip-hop communities in the world. The black Hollywood, I believe is what they call it. Where everyone's moving to. Or where I've been signed. Some of the biggest black companies there.

The biggest label in the world. Tyler Perry's there. Kanye West, Def Jam, and Universal. T-Pain's out there now. has hindered me

from getting the opportunities that I deserve. Coming to America was there. Everything was there. Eddie and Arsenio was there. You should be there too, buddy. Sorry.

Then following, I don't complain or throw my partners under the bus even though I just complained and threw my partners under the bus. I just try to work through it, but now that I am a free agent, that's in quotations, so I don't know if that means he's actually a free agent or just wants to be a free agent.

I feel like I'm at a crossroads. Do I still even want to do this due to the lack of support I get from the people around me? Since my recent incident, I have had time to reflect, contemplate retiring from rap. Oh, brother.

That's your line, though. Oh, brother. No, I don't contemplate. I just do it. I did it. No, you contemplated rage. You was going to retire before. And just being a songwriter

with overwhelming support from the fans makes me feel that people would still like to hear my music. So I'm writing this letter to the music industry. If you're interested in one of the best hip hop rap musicians in the world, please feel free to reach out to me via DM. Yo, a label hitting you via DM is funny. Wait, scroll down to the FYI. Read it.

FYI, I have three albums Ready to go With features from Travis Scott Kanye West Big Sean 2 Chainz Lizzo Pink Sweats Mozzy

Jack Hollow Ty Dolla Cordae And more That is a real pitch This feels like An email blast That the label sends out

Loud about the features Quiet about the clearances It's only It's only crazy to me Because in the interview With Adam 22 He was pulling he had one of the best

and the biggest you know people in his corner with Kanye oh see and that's why I need to battle Saha cause he think

I wouldn't have nothing to say about him and now you got something to say about him no I've been had things to say about him I have a book full of

everybody has a page in it things to say about this person if they hit the conversation that's your burn book you just go through the roll of that it's like what do I have to say about Saha it they hit the conversation. That's your burn book? Just go through the roll of this? Like, what do I have to say about... It's like your... It's so ironic.

It's like your love page. It's so ironic that Pump It Up was a Mean Girls and they had the book. Exactly. Fire, my second smash. What was the first smash? That wasn't the first?

No. Okay. Pump It Up? You ever heard that one? That was the second smash? That wasn't the first? No. Okay. Pump it up. You ever heard that one? That was the second smash? Enough of you guys. Okay. Let me interpret.

Let me listen. Yeah, speak from an artist's standpoint. Listen, you guys. How do you break this down? New listeners, old listeners, women and men, everyone. Let me do my best to use my hip-hop expertise that I've been educated on for the last 20 years, per se, to break this down for you guys. Sometimes hip-hop slang can be difficult to understand.

Yes, it can be. And this is all logic-based. Hip-hop slang. This is all logic-based, what I'm saying to y'all. Sometimes if you just step out of your own shell yes and put yourself in someone else's shoes yes you understand how things manifest case in point ever been having a little tension a little back and forth with your significant other but it was when like company was over your man was there the fight was escalating but your man didn't know like your man just was still glued to the screen

at some point you said to yourself damn man we really gotta have this talk me and my girl whenever my man leaves maybe you even went to your man it was like yo man shit turned up over here like do me come back tomorrow man let me just handle the situation real quick right very normal shit imagine kanye just read 70 texts from Ken. It's not going the greatest. Nigga walk out into the Wyoming yard. Nigga sigh all in the pool. Yeah, in the pool.

Nigga sigh, check this beat out. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, where's your bag? Hey, you said it was in the guest house you said hey it's not i'm working on it i got a joint for you it ain't no more album sai hai sai hai kim is about to get your publishing in the divorce get out of here while you still can go go save yourself get you a situation, bro. This one is over. All I'm saying is, I understand.

Yo, Sahai, go to Empire, man. Go make some real money. Go to Empire. Have a blast. Man, come sign to me. That's crazy. I'll put your shit out. Y'all are fucking crazy I'll put your shit out

all over the boulevard the boulevard you gonna press up CDs yo I'm joking because it's so much fun to joke but Psy I love you it's all jokes please

always love you Psy and we need a new album true email it to me yeah just to listen yeah send it over the joke but Psy I love you it's all jokes please always love me Psy and we need a new album from him true email it to me yeah just to listen yeah send it over I love those features

it was a good list shut up it was which one his FYI list look you ain't got a word to say since Uzi put his song out

saying everybody's stealing his sauce he said it that's the chorus I know you niggas in my studio trying to steal my sauce put his song out saying everybody's stealing his sauce. He said it. That's the chorus. I know you niggas. In my studio trying to steal my sauce. All you niggas lost.

I want the divorce. That was the hook. I said, I hope Marl is hearing this. I just said this. Nobody's stealing sauce. Uzi made a video and said that. Nobody's stealing sauce. All right, all right, where my phone? I've just been in Detroit favoring things.

Hey, because you know we old so we like out of touch now when the new new shit drops you don't even know why I'm W. Melly coming home like

didn't he did he win no you don't even know did he win that appeal no you don't even know he on his way home I thought he confessed that's funny to just drop on a nigga you don't't even know he on his way home. I thought he confessed.

That's funny to just drop on a nigga. You don't even know Melly on his way home, nigga. Oh, man. I thought he confessed. There was my Uzi clip. Oh, how did I miss the Uzi clip? I can't find it there. I'm going to find that song.

Look, the No Boys don't even know the song. Y'all ain't even helping a new Uzi. Yeah, I know. Uzi ain't got no song, man. Travis ain't got no song man Travis ain't got no song I know that He working He working Oh no he did the

The bossy ring I'm bossy I'm the one That's That was That was the wrong Not that song That's right

I'm Travis Scott on the track That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong

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That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's the wrong That's't announce rappers announce who they are on the track we know that's why we listen to them yo I'm so sorry man

these niggas gonna jump me one day man I'm sorry that's why I don't leave my house you can't jump me in my house pussy alright good luck to Saha what else we got

what else we doing what else is happening what else is happening what else is important out there we didn't talk about the Ghostface and Raekwon versus this oh talk about it who do you think will win

Ghostface is going to win that battle I think they'll win together they have albums together I don't like it several I don't like it after the D'Angelo thing

I think this is going to be a great concert of them rapping the songs they do together plus solo stuff I don't really it several I don't like it after the D'Angelo thing I think this is gonna be a great concert of them rapping the songs they do together plus solo stuff I don't really see this being a versus especially after the

D'Angelo thing it's not a versus shout out to Ghost and Ray it'll be a bunch of great music two of our favorite MCs I would have preferred showcasing their talents would have preferred

to see Ghost and Ray versus another duo that's heavily collaborated wherever you want to put it that would be great Michael I don't know Mobb Deep obviously P is not here but oh Mobb Deep that's heavily collaborated, wherever you want to put it, that would be great. Michael. I don't know.

Mobb Deep, obviously P is not here. Oh, Mobb Deep. I meant two solo, I know they're in a group, but... You can still do it. Yeah. You're playing the records.

That's like when Jack, when 112, when 12 played the records. Half of 112. Different reasons, of course, Rest in Peace Prodigy, but we don't want to see

havoc versus two people Fair And like you said If you do Kiss and Stow Sheek Odd man out Yeah Not fair

But you say Hey they left their group members Yeah there's 20 of them Yeah It's just one of So Clips No

Yeah Well Malice wouldn't do it Or pardon No Malice wouldn't do it They shouldn't do it Clips No Yeah Well Malice wouldn't do it Or pardon No Malice wouldn't do it They shouldn't do it Yeah I guess it's hard to find a duo They shouldn't do it

I'm not feeling this one though I mean I'm gonna watch it Because I love them as artists Absolutely But as a Versus The verses are just changing

It's evolving Clearly It's just gonna be a concert series Which is what i think was the plan somewhat i mean i don't want to see a rapper i don't want to see rappers concert concert series i don't and i know i'm trying to do my you don't want to see rappers i don't i don't want to see rappers performing through zoom oh okay that's valid no i'm with you now in person i would love to see it but singing on camera

for some reason is just better listen today they have too much cool shit for a new act to do like I love that series

what is it Colors Studios Colors yeah where it's just a bright background and a mic hanging one of my favorite series ever

yo just cut me off man I wasn't I was telling you the name of it you asked what's the name of it I said Colors it's one of my I wasn't I was telling you The name of it You asked what's the name of it I said Colors It's one of my favorite Platforms

Oh I was right Half the time You asked a question I answered it I wasn't cutting you off That's what happens When you ask a question Oh you knew the answer

Yeah so that's not a cut off Okay man Look Look at this guy Gunna looks like The greatest rapper ever In this empty room Everybody looks like The greatest rapper ever In this empty room Everybody looks like

The greatest ever In this room Not too much production But you paying attention To the artist What they saying Right Like the attention is

In the right spot I even love the one wire That you can see I just love this Yeah Like y'all always say Tiny Desk There's a bunch of spots

That do it right Trap Symphony Shout out to Erickson And make it cool Trap Symphony Yes Shout out to Erickson You know what I'm saying No Trap Symphony is really good Yeah bunch of spots that do it right trap symphony shout out and make it cool trap symphony yes shout out to erickson you know i'm saying no trap symphony is really good yeah but uh yeah with the with the online shit you do kind of have to focus more on the words and the performance

rather than trying to just do a crazy production that works live, he killing the angles. No. And all of y'all ain't going to sound good when the saxophonist is playing. Like, I know that's the trend. I know. Get the live horns. Get the ill drummer. Yes. It don't work for everybody is all.

And I don't want to see it from anybody but I don't really understand why Erickson would light Roddy Ricch so much better than me everything Roddy Ricch does is the coolest thing in the world amazing talent did y'all hear how the fans got the update on some new heat that might be coming from him

his baby moms his baby moms Did y'all hear how the fans got the update on some new heat that might be coming from him? Mm-mm. His baby moms. His baby moms tweeted, I spoke to y'all little boyfriend today. What a rollout. I spoke to y'all little boyfriend. She said, I spoke to y'all little boyfriend today. And he got a bunch of, she just said whatever she said about the music he got coming. Where it was, he got heat on the way, just be patient, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But what a fly way to announce music. That is fly. How your baby moms announce it? Yeah. She knows. Yeah, but to do it salty, but know that. Nah, he cooking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I hate him, but I can't deny the music. Yeah, I appreciate when baby mamas Balance the salt Like yeah I'm not That ain't my favorite guy In the world But He's my family Yeah

And he sounds When he wins I win Like I still support that Right We ain't gotta be Fucking necessarily

But It's a win still This kid is cool man Kid is cool I don't know why Rory Didn't put me on sooner Everything is Rory's cool. I don't know why Rory didn't put me on sooner. Everything is Rory's fault when I don't get put on.

No, you was denying the Roddy shit when I was playing around you. Really? Years ago. Really? Per usual. It's fine, though.

What a jacket. Wow. That is it. Wow. Only certain people could pull the... That's not a jacket. That's a weapon.

Only certain people could pull off the bedazzled jackets, though. That's true. Me of which is not one of them. I've tried... Let me throw on this bedazzled shit in the store. Maybe I could pull it off. Stick to the earth toes. No, I can't.

Let's see. What else is important? We have to talk about... I don't want to talk about it with Maul here. I wrote Cuomo down. Why do I want to talk about it while I'm here? I don't want to talk about that stuff with you. All right.

Bro, I had fun with the whole Trump shit. I'm not the political guy. All of these dudes are nasty. All of them are just money hungry, evil people. Like, I don't care about politics. Pull out the statement. Let me at least read the statement that uh uh mc quombs put out mc cuomo was getting zesty in the political offices

and cuomo has responded and this is after a third accuser has come forward and said that he's been a little handsy and just sexually aggressive uh cuomo says i have teased people about their personal lives their relationships about getting married or not getting married i mean no offense and only attempt to add some levity and banter to what is a very serious business uh i now understand that my interactions may have been insensitive or too personal and that some of my comments given my position made others feel in ways i never intended i acknowledge some of the things i have said uh i have said have been misinterpreted as an unwanted flirtation he continued to the extent anyone felt that way

i am truly sorry and that is the statement. Mm-hmm. And it doesn't look good. What was he exactly accused of? Trying to kiss a girl, saying stuff to another girl to the effect of, do you like dating older men or sleeping with older men

or something to that effect. Okay. And I'm not sure what the third one was. Oh, maybe this one, can I kiss you? At a wedding. Well, that is where you feel a little kissy.

Yeah, the drinks are flowing. You got your good suit on, good dress. That's also why they allow you to have a plus one most times. Yeah, like you can kiss your plus one. Like he came in with a woman.

That's a wild place to get at my date. It is a little crazy. At the wedding? I mean, shit, Broadway Joe did it on the Jets sideline. Fuckin' say, what do you think about the Jets' defense this year?

I want to kiss you. Yeah, he sounds like he's one of the many men in position of power that are a little handsy and a little inappropriate. Why is that a thing? Do you think that power causes them to act that way, or do you think that power causes them to act that way or

do you think that the way that they act causes them to end up in positions of power i think power and money makes you more of what you already are yeah you can hide behind he can hide behind that power sure that you can do things that you know a guy that didn't have that position of power couldn't do and then you know you hide behind it because you're the governor. And we got people that can step on these allegations and these stories and then go away.

People are not going to believe you because they view me in the public as this great guy, you know, this heroic guy who saved New York

during the pandemic, which I don't know how people think that. But anyway, you know, you hide behind those type of things. And that's what

this just sounds like. It's a little handsy, a little inappropriate at times. And women are just being vocal about it as they should. They have the right to express that. And that's what it sounds like to me. But we'll see. It's looking like they're going to investigate it. And this is not going to go away.

You know, a case is open. Yeah, this is not. This is definitely not going to go away. All right. We will keep you posted on what's happening. Let's stay in politics. Green Man, can you bring up what the Texas governor just tweeted? Oh, Jesus.

The governor of Texas just tweeted. By the way, it's an album rollout. Get ready. Big announcement in 15 minutes. Yeah. Let's start there. I just announced that Texas is open in all caps, 100%, space, space, space, everything in all caps, space, space. I also ended the statewide mask mandate.

I thought that was already happening in Texas. I mean, I'm not going to Texas. I mean, I'm not going to Texas. It's not just interesting to you how everything just started opening up after Trump left office. But I don't. All right, let's have let's answer that question in one second. Right. I was explaining to somebody. All right. Texas, Texas, Florida and Georgia have never closed, have been open. explaining to somebody Texas Florida and Georgia have never closed

have been open why are black people confused that Texas Georgia and Florida are encouraging people to go out I just never understood where the Florida are encouraging people to go out.

I just never understood where the confusion was with that. Like even as people were partying in Houston and Atlanta, I'm like, cool, but please be careful. The Atlanta mayor and the governor have been fighting publicly. Like they let you know they don't do the greatest job in hiding it. I'm not going to I'm probably won't be in Houston for a little bit. I heard something disturbing about one of the hotels I really liked out there. I heard they was a little racist. And I don't find that difficult to believe either.

So, I don't know. I was in Florida this weekend. If only Four Seasons would update things. They just will not update. I was in Florida this weekend, and I had a mask on. And they were giving me side-eye and weird looks looks like, can you please take your mask off? You're making us uncomfortable. I swear to God, the way up here, like when someone doesn't have their mask on, you get that weird fucking stank look. Just getting that the entire time.

Even when I had it like on my chin. I had it like on my chin listen man 10 years from now we're gonna look back at 2020 and some of us are gonna be very surprised

at the things that we learn but what do you think we'll be surprised that we learn you just gotta wait wait and see to stay on

some of the sexual abuse allegations that are lingering out there another woman has come forward and she's represented by Lisa Bloom and this whole T.I. and Tiny stuff

that's going on. Oh, yeah. I've been trying not to speak on it because they're building a case. They're getting witnesses. They're doing whatever they could do. In the interim, announcements have been made

regarding some employment for T.I. I think VH1 announced that show. Probably going to hold off on that. yeah uh i saw something today that said uh ti will not be returning to ant-man and though this is a really serious topic my i'd be lying to you if i didn't say my first thought was oh shit ti was an ant-man i had no idea he was an ant-man yeah but that's a big deal if you get canceled from like some mcu shit yeah for sure and his vh1 shit was kind of big look at me though pocket watching um no that reality show was huge yeah this uh we'll see how this plays out yeah this plays out again man

you just never know what people got going on behind closed doors and in their bedrooms. You know what I mean? It's just, it's disappointing sometimes when you hear these allegations. But,

I don't want to spend too much time on this topic, but did you guys see Chris D'Elia? Are you guys familiar? Comedian? Absolutely.

Very big. Yeah. I saw you put on a thing. I didn't watch it though. He was accused of some nasty DMs with some underage women when he was on tour. And kind of disappeared for maybe six, seven months. I'm not sure the exact time frame, but it had been a while.

And finally posted on his YouTube an actual statement outside of the PR statement that was on his Twitter. And I thought it was an interesting way to handle these type of allegations. I thought he handled it pretty well. Stood on the stand of saying, hey, everything I've ever done has been consensual and every woman has been of age. If that was the case,

I had zero clue that those women were underage. Got into his sex addiction, got into the help that he was getting, got into his relationship with his girl through the whole thing. I thought it was an interesting way to fully address these type of allegations. Yeah.

I guess I can respect him for that, but he still might be a nasty man. He may be. He may be. I'm not the person that would decide that, because again, I don't know even that much about it i just saw the screenshots but i thought it was an interesting way if you do watch his response to handle this type of era that we're in where sometimes accusations may be true maybe not be true uh and where the timeline dictates if they're true or not and dictates your career from them.

And the doc that I watched about Duke that was starring us, when they got to that part, when it was like, yeah, some shit happened and underage girl, he said he just didn't know how old she was. She was 13. She looked older. It's like, no, the 13-year year old girl didn't look my bitch word and also just hear when you hear these lines your it's your job to do Jill to diligence yeah you have sure you have to yeah absolutely that properly well I think um and again correct me if I'm wrong Twitter whoever

I believe the Chris D'Elia thing was DMs. He never met these women. He never slept with these women. He was DMing women that he did not know was underage, and they were saying, hey, at one point I did tell him that I'm 16 or whatever. But, yeah, just wanted to bring it up when we were on the topic because this was a big thing over the past week. And I see he put out a statement saying that he had a sex addiction yeah that's that's all in this video

discusses his entire sex addiction now chris rock had uh he spoke about that in one of his stand-ups right about his recent press run when he did the deluxe album of the tambourine he got into some shit like that he was addicted to masturbating i think he said something like that oh well that's a bag that's a what that's a bag addiction addiction to masturbate yeah sure like sure and you're not harming anyone like i'm totally cool if you are addicted to touching yourself no one as long as you're not doing it no one is that danger yeah yeah you can't and they start touching yourself in front of you got it right to kick him in his ass you know what I mean that's it keep your addictions to yourself buddy take that addiction

in the bathroom well you can handle it that way or I mean what would you do if someone was masturbating in front of me I'd probably walk away listen the comic

attempted to explain you just asked me that question I know man I'm just kidding I would walk away or run oh nasty man

what is that thing No I'd be I'd be polite I'd let him finish But I'm gonna leave Oh I see your business Nah I see how you Who am I to judge a vice

The division in the room I see how you Like lean in Nah I get it Who am I to judge a vice Yeah I get it Just I'll walk away Yeah nah I get it

See but when the listeners, well, when the listeners have an issue with it, when they listen back, they'll never say, yo, man, Rory and Parks wilded out a little bit. They'll be like, yo, Joe Button, man. Joe Button been gay for a year and a half. They got a timeline on your gay shit?

No, no, I'm seeing it. It said, Joe Button keeps trying to force his gay shit. I'm like, yo, that's not me anymore. I stopped. I ended it. You stopped one episode ago. No, I stopped. Like, literally one. I on a force of gation. I'm like, yo, that's not me anymore. I stopped. I ended it. You stopped one episode ago. No, I stopped. Like, literally one.

I stopped in Parks' old house. No. Oh, my. No, it's been in this basement. No way. 100%. I disagree. It's been in this basement.

It's been in this basement. You finally like, ooh, icky. It was it. Why are you guys talking like that? You fluid with us. Shut up. With us. With us.

Me and Parks. The division. See? This is the. Me and Parks. The division. See? This is the division? Shout out to the division. Weird division. Weird division. The real division.

What else is super important? Any new music? I don't think anything came. We talked about it on Friday and not much came out. Period. Scream Man, you typically do the-

Still ain't found what your favorite song is I'm still on that Her record Damage Yeah That's a good one Yeah I'm damaged too

Yeah I'm still on that record I just see Will Smith Said that he would consider Running for political office What if we get Will Smith versus The Rock Who wins And that's what

They were afraid of Yeah You know how it's always like The fans win This is when the fans And that's what they were afraid of. Yeah. You know how it's always like the fans win? This is when the fans lose. That's what they were afraid of. Celebrities wanting to run for office.

They're going to put a rule in soon that you have to have years of political experience. I already see it coming. Because now, you're not going to outvote The Rock. You're not going to outvote

Oprah Winfrey. You're not going to outvote a lot of these celebrities that more than half the country loves. Who do you have winning if Will Smith and The Rock did that? Just asking. We're Swizzins. We don't have to stay on this.

This is the real versus. I'm going with The Rock. Will. Will what? Will Smith. Will Smith what? Wins. Wins what?

Will versus Rock in a political versus. I think more people would love to have a president that looks like The Rock. Sorry, Smith family. You can't red table your way out of everything. It's a little different when you're going against America. I'm going to find a song to champion. Don't worry. Give me a second.

I'll find some. You got those. You think we'll win that? I know you're a big fan of The Rock who you got though who you think will win I know you're a fan big fan of The Rock but I think The Rock will win don't start off

don't start off telling me about my fandom nah you just said it I know you a big fan of The Rock nah you just said you love The Rock and he's straying away

he's straying away from us I don't know if I can claim him anymore really like I hate when my The Rock is straying away from us I don't I don't keep up with The Rock you don't away from us i don't i don't keep up

with the rock i don't i honestly i don't know what the rock has going on unless it's a movie coming up like i just don't i don't i don't follow him on social media i don't okay yeah uh let's say that's not the rock who is that on the far right a few weeks ago a few no not a few weeks ago maybe a week and a half ago i meant to announce announce this and I never got around to it. But this was big that Uber drivers now must be classified as workers and they'll receive minimum wage and paid time off. Oh, really? So I'm going to hit the round of applause for that because I understand how that could be important. Yeah, hell yeah.

And while that's important, you know what I didn't hear in there? The requirement for them to know how to drive. Thanks, man. They just have not figured that part out yet. No. Well, hold on. Let me ask, if they work more than what minimum wage is, they get more than minimum wage, right?

They probably have a a it'll be like a sales job probably where it's Commission versus your salary type of thing okay if I had to guess because I can because they take a percentage off every single ride that's how it goes right so if you do more than minimum wage don't put me down minimum wage if I Drive uber seven days a week I'm sure it'll fuck that commission kind of situation. Daytime off is dope, though. I do like that.

I wonder how many rides you have to do to equal up to that, though. I'm sure you can't just sign up for Uber and get that off rip. Yeah, I wonder if that'll hurt people that kind of moonlight with the Ubering. Yeah, and switch between that and Lyft. Or that, yeah. That's one reason why I'm really like, I'm just fed up. Like, I'm getting a car now. Like, I was spoiled with being able to just hop in and out of Uber, get out, no parking.

I got to worry about looking for parking, going somewhere I can just hop out. But like, when you in an Uber and they can't drive and you know how you get down, I'm in the backseat like, all you got to do is go this way. Cut through all that shit. Like, that's one of the things I'm just like, all like what you gotta do is go this way cut through all that shit like that's that's one of the things I'm just like alright I can't do it

yeah my Uber driver took me to Jackson Heights the other night and I was going to Astoria so I feel you yeah I'm mad when I just get in and they got the

they got the partition in there so like doing what they're supposed to be doing but it's split like one for the driver's seat one for the passenger's seat it's like broken up in the middle

like the air can get through like what's the point of this yeah that shit never when they started that whole thing one nigga one time had a shower crash i said for this this exactly this ain't gonna this ain't gonna cut it this ain't gonna stop nothing you might as well rip this shit down few of them dudes tried to duct tape some shit up oh yeah yeah yeah that ain't gonna help me fam don't worry about it yeah it's like be all right. The girls are doing way better with the Gorilla Glue than we are. Like, wow. You couldn't get this together. Shit all falling.

I'm like, fam, you know COVID can get right around here. Right. No problem. At least Shorty's wig look good. Yeah. Word. I thought you might have needed to keep at that. No, it's there.

It's there for good now. What else? What else? What else is going? Oh, this is important. SoundCloud's trying something new for a major music streaming service. That's honest. Paying indie artists a share of their actual listeners' subscription fees.

The company calls this fan-powered royalties. Funny how every company is just calling this something different and it means a soundcloud subscribers subscription fee or advertising revenue will be divvied up among the artists they actually listen to rather than going to a big pot and being split up among the platform's most popular artists i was just talking wow man this is a major change for the industry and one indie artists have pushed for. Currently, most streaming platforms reward the world's biggest stars with the most royalties. At Spotify, for example, the company figures out how many streams happened on its platform in a given country and then calculates what portion of those streams went to a specific artist.

The result is that smaller acts who might not have massive reach but also have a dedicated, loyal audience end up not making much money because they represent a smaller portion of the overall streams. That's exactly what I was talking about last episode. We've talked about it plenty of times. When I was saying how Drake should not have the same split

on a Spotify or anything, period. Us talking about it because I don't want us to get back down the road. Us talking about it and some of these platforms going through whatever they needed to to come to this realization are two different things. We speak from the creative standpoint and the consumer standpoint. But that is what makes this interesting though, Joe, because we do speak from a creative standpoint, but we also speak from the consumers. We still consume. Yeah, I'm a fan. I'm just happy.

We can sit here and debate what's right, what's wrong. I'm just glad that the conversations are happening more frequently and more loud than they've been. I'm happy that companies look like they're trying to implement changes. I'm just happy that shit just seems like it's changing. And sometimes that's all you can hope and ask for. It's baby steps, but yeah. Yeah, it's baby steps, but it's like, okay, but y'all do know that this is wrong

and you need to fix this and that you are nothing without the creators. See, stop right there that's where joe disagrees i don't know if they've realized that that the creators they're nothing without the creators you would be a you would be ignorant to think that your soundcloud platform is anything without the creators. You'll be ignorant to think that. You'll be an ignorant businessman and an ignorant CEO to think that this platform that you've built is anything without the creators.

I don't think any of the platforms are running around saying in their executive meetings, hey, we're nothing without the creators. We should pay them now. No, I think they know that they're nothing without the creators we should pay them now no i think they they i think they know that they're nothing without the creators i think the problem is they feel like well we have the platform yes they're the creators but like the problem is the creators feel like they want more than we're willing to give i think that's but they know that they're nothing without the creators like a drug dealer is nothing without his custies. I don't. Okay. I don't.

What I'm saying is I don't think that whatever they know is what led to this decision. However they feel about the creators and their worth. Hey, these guys are right. Let's pay them more. I don't think it was because they were so graceful. No, I agree with that. I think that. But they know they're nothing without creators. I think that they maybe are looking at.

Yes, that's true. And I think that they may be looking at some other alternatives that could occur in the next five years. I think that SoundCloud specifically in this example is just trying to do something differently than the other platforms are doing to make it more enticing for people to come there. For artists to go, hey, I think I'm going to only focus on promotion. It's the same thing worded different if if if whoever else said hey we're doing subscriptions now like that's sound cool this is their version of that hey we're taking the subscription money we're gonna give you some of it so it's the same thing it's way different tell me more so it's a

rehashing what we talked about last week, I was saying that if I only listen to 38 Spesh on Apple Music and I give them $9.99 a month, Spesh should get the bulk of my, whatever the non-Apple cut of my $9.99 is. I understand that. Which would entice Spesh to go,

hey, maybe I should solely focus on the SoundCloud audience that I have and promote, hey, come listen to my album on SoundCloud because I know I'll get the most money from it. Which is the exact same thing as 38 Special having... Calling to a Patreon. Or anywhere where there is subscriptions and now all the subscriptions go to 38 Special.

But that's like having... This is their version of that. It's the very same thing. But this has a community of rap listeners already for special. So does every other platform. I was talking about an extreme example because the reality is

no one listens to just one artist. They might listen to four or five artists, but instead of my $9.99 going to every artist in the entire world, everyone gets a fraction of a cent, it should go to those five artists instead of splitting it up all over the place. Now, SoundCloud, apparently from this press release,

what you read, is going to give it to those five artists instead of to Drake. Why is Drake getting any of my money? I don't listen to any Drake songs. I listen to Drake songs, but... Example, example. Why is Taylor Swift getting any portion of my $9.99?

This is the same exact thing. I don't understand what they keep trying to explain to me. Every time they explain it, I walk away with it's the same exact thing. Because you're talking about a specific, hey, I'm subscribing to you and I'm giving you $10.99 a month. This is slightly different. I'm paying $10.99 to listen to everything on SoundCloud. I think you're paying the $10.99 to have the option to listen to anything. Right. That you want. Correct. That's what it is.

Like, you can wake up one day, you might want to hear a Taylor Swift record. Just punch it in. And they'll give her my whatever that is. Based off when it's title, Apple, Spotify. They are dedicating a certain amount from the subscription to give to the act.

But how they do it on the three major ones is... I don't care about that. No, but how they do it on the three major ones is... Oh, I don't care about that. I don't care about that. No, that's what matters. Not to me, because if they make that option of... If at every other platform, they make that option available for every single artist...

It changes the game. Then it's the same thing. It's the same... But they don't do that. But they don't do that. Have they been listening to me for the last year? For the last year, I've been saying that's where we at. Everybody has to do it.

And they all have announced it except for Amazon. Every one of them have announced it. No, that's not true. You're talking about tip, tip, and subscription based on one specific. I'm not talking about tips. What are you talking about? I'm talking about subscription. I you talking about i'm talking about subscription i'm talking about but you're talking about i'm talking about how the platform allots subscription money

today apple let me not use apple today huff and puff doesn't have anything that lets any consumer subscribe to any one act whatever they do with their subscription money, how they funnel it within the platform, it's cool. Same way at the record label when we said Warner went public and none of the artists got a dime. This is SoundCloud's version of that same premise, not the same exact steps, but it's the same thing. They're taking some of the money from prescription that they've been eating on forever. Like Apple, like Huff and Puff, like anybody you name. They've been taking all of our royalties and shit and that's showing us shit. And now the end of the road is here.

And in their projections, I'm assuming they don't see that being fruitful in the future because there's a ripple effect now on the artists. If we take away the desperation from artists, then a lot of these bad contracts not getting signed. Like if we have so many more options for newer artists to get paid. So yeah, SoundCloud is that community. They built that community of independent acts. But Huff and Puff's got a community over there. Google's got a community. YouTube's got more community than anybody in the world.

That is a fact. Every company, everyone will have to do it different. But I'm going to say it again. Everybody is going to have to do this. I agree. gonna say it again everybody is gonna have to do this i agree and some version okay the way the way you're wording it was that they already did it yeah correct it's coming oh okay i'm not but the we sit here it's coming the way you worded it sounded like you were saying everyone already does this already yeah it's parks and i were saying no they go off yeah they go off everyone no matter what the subscription base is it's a 0.0001 penny for everybody.

And I be trying to get y'all and the creators to, hey, then let's paint a world for what happens if it don't come. Because if it don't come, it's up. Whatever been happening, it's not going to continue to happen. Right. That's it. So, yes, kudos to SoundCloud. They laid on this.

They laid on this. But they're early because they're the first ones to be doing it. They're not early. They are late. Well, they are late in general. They're late on this. But they're early because they're the first ones to be doing it. They're not early. They are late. Everyone's late. They're the first ones to do it of the major DSPs that I've seen. Yeah, correct. They are. And kudos to them for doing that.

And they've admittedly said they've missed the boat once and stuff. But they're the only ones that got an error named after them. True. Well, that's what I'm saying. And that's where this gets different. They've admitted they said they missed the soundcloud rapper era they didn't make money off of it they didn't they didn't go in bed with you they didn't go in bed with any of the artists and now they're trying to do that with this here uh they're working on some joint venture shit that is easier for the artist as far as money goes they're working on their mistakes which i

think is dope this is smart and I love it yeah they they admittedly missed the boat and they said hey we're gonna redo it and work on this I agree

I totally agree cause SoundCloud still has an audience no matter what and take heed the rest of you DSPs please and put fucking credits

on your shit but will this matter most importantly I like that will this matter that takes from the artist when some of the bigger platforms

roll out their version of this as well? We hope so. I think that's what Parks is saying. Kudos to them because they did it. It's a ripple effect. Stop kudos these niggas on y'all time. I'm holding them to the fire

still. No, no, no. I get what you're saying. They're late. They're late to it. No, no, no. I get what you're saying. They're late. They're late to it. But... No, no, no. Not only are they late, I want them to be prepared. I'm not kudos-ing them. When the rest of these people

do the same thing... See, unlike most, I believe SoundCloud has a place in the ecosystem, a big one. Absolutely. It's been mismanaged. Agreed. But I would like

them to manage better when Huff and Puff rolls out their version. When Spotify, who just opened up in mad new countries, does the same thing. No, they need we, the little guy, the independent guy need them to be able to counter that.

Okay, I agree. That's what I'm saying. Like like i don't know if clubhouse is going to survive twitter adding clubhouse to twitter like i don't know i don't know either especially with all this information about shit getting leaked and privacy concerns and all that kind of thing yeah that's what i'm saying it's interesting i'm glad that they rolled out first with this i can't wait to see how it plays out and i can't wait for other platforms to roll out their version of this. Because now that I'm thinking about it, I'm even skeptical about that now.

I don't know if Huff and Puff having a subscription service helps need to know. Who does that help outside of the people who already have huge followings? Okay. How is the smaller artists, I'm saying artists now, but in my case, podcaster. Same idea. Same concept. Tips in this bullshit

ain't enough. I'm not kudos in none of these people until I see it work. Thank you for doing what... I'm not thanking you. You started the fire, not SoundCloud. They started the fire. I'm not thanking niggas for putting the fire out that you started. I'm sorry. I'm not thanking you. You started the fire, not SoundCloud. They started the fire. I'm not thanking niggas for putting the fire out that you started.

I'm sorry. I'm not doing that. Hey, I'm of the belief they had no choice but to come around to this. I agree with that. And if not now, then in my kid's life, and if not his life, but it was going to happen. That's my belief. Damn, I'm screaming. I didn't mean to.

I was cool. At some point, you have to pay people fucking fairly. It's a passion project for you. Yeah, kudos, but not all of them. I'm not giving some point you had to pay people for it it's a passion it's a passion project for you yeah kudos but not all of them I'm not giving you all the kudos until I see it

listen I'm just curious what the deal they did with the three majors on here that's what I'm curious about said they came to a conclusion with the three major labels

to get this done I want to know what that split is because that could change things drastically if I'm not we'll never know that if I'm not... We'll never know that. If I'm not an independent artist and I'm...

Pocket watcher. This entire thing is pocket watcher. What are you talking about? This entire conversation was pocket watcher. No, we watching hard pocket. We can do that. We can watch hard shit. Well, I'm saying if I'm signed to a major

and the major does this deal, that money's going to the major and the major's going to funnel it to me. The major, I'm not sure how much longer the major's going to be viable. I disagree. Except for for back catalog stuff.

You disagree why? How long do you think? Guess, let's guess it. That the major label is going to be around? I feel like we have this talk at least once every five months. We do, we do, that's fine. Things change.

Things change. Things change. I think the way majors with the capital they have, the power that they have, how they've adapted to every single time, especially with going into streaming and having equity in every major streaming service.

They know how to adapt. 15 years. They know how to adapt. 15 years. They know how to adapt. 10 to 15 years. I only got Vivendi up there. Universal. That's probably it. Warner will be around

because they're so strong. The labels I'm talking about, I'm only talking about the music label portion of their business. I'm not talking about all the other shit that they do in the world

that they're successful at. 10 to 15 years, right? I got Silva coming here on Friday to walk me through this NFT stuff. Okay, cool because I was going to bring up the Grimes Elon Musk's wife or girlfriend or whatever they are. Put out an album and made like $6 million off it this week.

But by the way, what you're saying is kind of my point with because they're so successful in so many other ventures that aren't going away, they'll have the capital to be able to move that money from Universal Movies and say, all right,

let's buy this streaming site. Let's do like, they have the capital to stay alive. They do have more capital. For over 15 years from now. I read a really interesting article about the guy from Hypnosis.

And that's not true. That's buying everybody's catalog. I'm logging over on it. Okay. Whenever you finish everybody's catalog? I'm arguing with Rory on that. Okay. Whenever you finish. Oh, no. I was just reading an article about how he's been out bidding all the labels to buy everything until the Bob Dylan catalog was the first thing that they really just went, tripled

whatever his bid was. He got money. I'm just kidding. He's got investors. He's got a million investors. Oh, no. I mean, I'm just saying him and that company, they got money. Yeah.

You think the decisions are made from the money that people have in their pocket or by the money they see themselves making? It's about, you know, like the majors? Well, in this instance, we're talking about the majors. I think the amount of money they will make in the long run. That's what I think, too. Yeah. I'm so confused. But it takes money that they have now, too, though.

Don't get it twisted. Joby, all right. So the same thing we say how a spotify and apple are tech companies we don't consider them music music is the advertising for the tech i think universal warner sony want to stay in the tech business that has to do with music so they will invest in artists to do so okay i agree with that my response is if my response to that is if you're still trying to figure out tech you've lost the race that's my response to that if if you are new to tech world or just getting familiar with tech world, when now tech world is entering another realm of tech world, I think you are severely behind.

Can I respond quickly? Let me just get this out before I forget. I'm doing my best outside of this pod to go and get well informed on all of this NFT stuff. Because, whoa. That changes the world. To go and get well informed on all of this NFT stuff. Because whoa. That changes the world. Like. It's literally an entirely different world.

In some cases. Now there's a viable means to literally lock labels out of all art transactions what if the creators come up with uh their own coin like a bitcoin and now you a sorry exec guy you can't even enter this art shit that's where joe thinks this is going in 10 to 15 years 20 years top but it took 10 years to watch what's going on now. So I got it being a 10-year thing. To that, on a smaller scale, just of what we were saying with, I don't know how long Clubhouse

is going to last when Twitter wants to add in the same technology. The same way Instagram buys up Vine, buys up all this other technology anytime it gets hot, it's because Instagram has the capital and the power that is

much different. And if they want to just buy the technology, they can stay that way. And I feel the same way with the major labels when certain things get brought in that may take them out. No, you're not understanding it. That's not a proper response to what I'm saying. Like Jim Jones explained it.

No, I'm talking about the coin thing. I'm talking about originally what... Oh. We're not talking about everything you're just saying. I was talking about what's going to keep the majors our original conversation. That's what I was talking about. I think all the majors are even more afraid than they were when Napster was out.

That's what I think. I won't disagree with you there at all. I think they're not really telling you. I think they're more on their toes. You get a few of these dudes in the closet and they'll panic about what happened with TikTok. They'll tell you. Like, seriously.

Speaking of, like, yo, man, we got to do something about TikTok. That's what they say. And a lot of the time, though. I think they're scared shitless of what's going on. This NFT stuff, let a creator come up with a coin. And now every creator is just investing in that coin, and that's how we do art now

but see Joe the beauty in this is tell me how Interscope gets involved it would take one of y'all to let him in one of you creators that's why I said

the beauty in this is that this is all birthed from creators feeling like they weren't paid or they weren't treated fairly I got a class action suit coming in

at least nine of you niggas about where all the money is not now I got a class action suit coming in at least nine of you niggas about where all the money is. Not now. I got work to do. They ain't gonna get me shot. I've been watching too many docs. Imagine if Joe's trying to unearth all of the publishing and royalties and music that

we're actually owed. Your ass is out of there. Your ass is grass. Y'all gonna be like, well, he was depressed. These niggas, right? He didn't write that song. I was having that cryptic conversation when I was in Florida. And I was sitting there while I was having the conversation.

I was moving my money from one of my accounts to another account. 12. And I said, wait, this is cryptic currency. Yeah. Bank of America. Damn. This is cryptic. I'm moving money

that does not exist. It's not tangible. It's not nothing. It's a fucking number. And I just moved it to another made up account that was a number. And then that number went up

when I moved it from that number. Motherfucker, Bank of America is cryptocurrency. Oh, you big broke. Had to move something around, huh? I mean, I got people to take care of.

Hey, the bitches knew how broke I was when I went in and that Chase app opened up. Open that Chase app up and get to switching some shit. Hey, take a little bit of that savings. Oh, no, no, no.

Dump it over here for that gyro we have. I'm sorry, Joe. Joe, I'm LLC Twitter. I moved it from one LLC to the other. Excuse your savings. I'm LLC Twitter. Hey, that's when my black privilege show up. Like when the card declined over like $1.50 per...

Whoa, buddy. No, the whole line will wait and we'll stand here while I call the bank. Trust me, your machinery's mistaken. They're like, I don't know, Pop B.

Nigga, I have $2. What you don't know, man? All right, forget it. Anytime Bank of America... Say, why laugh it too hard? You got declined, right? Anytime Bank of America texts Say, why are you laughing too hard? You got the client, right? Anytime Bank of America texts me now when I'm traveling, hey, do you recognize all these charges?

In my head, I'd be like, nah. Meanwhile, they're mine. I was blackout drunk. I don't recognize them. Nah, these aren't really mine. That's kind of the thing. Like, when my people call me, it's like they trying to trick me

to not remember it hey you hey where were you at 3 57 p.m at uh on wednesday 17 months ago and did you buy a lollipop yeah i don't know tell me what is it i can't read it to you my nigga get off my damn phone then you can't tell me what it is. That time when my car got scammed and I came on here and I said someone bought like $7,500 worth of TVs from Walmart overnight and I woke up. They went through every Uber I ever did in my entire life. And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know when that Uber was.

Man, they got my driver not too long ago. He went somewhere, dropped his wallet, left his wallet, got pickpocketed, who knows? But when he picked me up from the park and we was headed home, he was like, man,

they're on a terror out there with my wallet. I said, so? I said, what happened, man? They're on a terror out there. They're having a ball.

I said, I said, what'd you say? He said, oh, Uber, Domino's, Party City. Party City. They was running soul shit up. I started judging the charges too. I'm like, yo, whatever dude got my card is sick.

What is he doing? He was going crazy on soul shit, man. But then you got to call the bank, and they start interrogating you off every last charge that you've ever done. And I'm sitting there like, I don't know when I took this Uber for $5.75. Maybe that was them. Like, hey, can we focus on the three grand right here?

No, no, no, no. What happened with this $10 Uber? Is that you or not? I don't know. So much to my surprise, weed is legal in Detroit too now. Is it really? Yeah. Doesn't shock me. Really sexy

dispensaries that they have out there. Got me to thinking, boy, it'd be cool to open up a dispensary. Since it seems like my lineage was just birthed for that, you can guess the name.

Bud Den. You sure this wasn't a rap you wrote with Royce? I'm just walking around. Hey, while it settles in your brain, I'm going to walk around. Let it settle. Yeah, maybe we should eat a bit. Think about it. Why not? It's in their brain. Yeah. Let it sit. Yeah, maybe we should eat a bit. Think about it. Why not?

It's in their brain. Yeah. Everything I do. Yeah, yeah, nah. But let it sit. Nah, I got you. Yo, while you're up, you mind pouring me a cup?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, while you're up. The Bud Den. It's a den. No, I'm putting it together. I'm doing the math. Because a den. No, he's doing the science. I'm doing the math. Because a den. No, he's doing the science.

My parks did the science. All y'all do is jokes. I was asking him while he was up if you could pour me a... So we'll get to it. Glass showcasing's everywhere. Oh, Glass House too. Come on, man. I didn't even think about that one.

Alien OG. Wedding cake. Huh? Orange gelato. Anything you want in there. It is 420. Episode 420. So mad strains. Come on, man? Orange gelato. Anything you want in there. It is 420, episode 420. So Mad Strains,

it is, come on man, episode 420, I need to introduce this episode. Wow. Yo, so wait now. I got something more.

Mad Strains at Bud Dent. Yo. I know Bud Dent. I should probably smoke a bottle. I'm down. Hookah is there. Rory on the ox. Y'all laughing.

Now look, it's coming together in their head. It's a vibe. Huh? Brand new emotional oranges. You never heard it. I'm going to play it today. Bitch is here. Y'all laughing. Now look, it's coming together in their head. It's a vibe. Brand new emotional oranges. You never heard it. I'm going to play it today. Bitch is here.

For my sleeper. It's women here. Look, they laughing. I'm with you. They laughing. I'm rolling with the bud then. The bud then. It's oil burning.

The bud then. Hey. Come on. Big security at the door. Anybody ain't getting in here. She got to look like something. What's up? Don't come in here.

Nigga, come in here smelling like Joe Malone. Right. We ain't just letting people in smelling like the whole strain. No. Sorry. I feel you. I feel you.

They joking. Zach Efron good? Oh, no. Gaze, welcome. You and Zach walk right in. Gaze, welcome. You and Zach coming right in. Hand in hand.

Don't worry about it. I'm cleaning, moving the door for you and Zach. Yeah, no. I wanted to try to impress him, show him like a cool little low spot. That's a good first date spot. No, no. Come on. And the do-si-do is rolled up when you come in.

You getting the do-si-do. I like it. I got something in my pocket upstairs. I'm going to lay you something. It ain't that do-si-do though. It ain't that do-si-do. Got that monogram. Everyone trying to move to Cali.

Let's just move to Detroit. Or Jersey. Open the bud, then. I got a few calls about investment opportunities and some growing farms. Yeah. That's big.

That's the wave. One of my friends is... It's about to get up up. One of my friends is preemptively starting that process in New York for when it does

eventually become legal in New York. You goddamn right. You damn skippy. Get to it. I don't know what the next 10 years look like to y'all,

but like... It looks like fun. It looks like fun. It looks like a lot of growth. I'll ask y'all something. Come on. Don't ever move

my smoothie like that. Health is wealth. Health is wealth. All right, then pick it up then don't move it health is wealth and I'm sorry if you feel under attack

provoked antagonized or assaulted in any way that's not what we do with the JVM hold on let's talk to HR that's not what we do

with the JVM I keep forgetting more of HR yeah his door is always open or closed depending on who needs to talk

what was I trying to talk about I was trying I had somewhere to take us legal legal marijuana oh you know that was dead I don't have nothing here

and we were laughing I like the idea of the bud den me too I get it I think that's sick I also the problem I also think it's very expensive

oh it is it's expensive right probably all the but if it done right I don't know if you're I think that's sick. Also, the problem, I also think it's very expensive. Oh, it is. It's expensive, right? Probably all the... But if it done right... Tell me how much. I think it's probably all the permits and licensing and shit that cost.

That's what it is. And it's not easy getting it. They make you jump through... That's where you got to be ghost from power, play the political game. Yes, absolutely. Get cool with Lorenz Tate,

the mayor. You could do that. But how much you think that would cost? Like with licenses, permits? I wouldn't know. How big of a

square space? Yeah. Three of these rooms. So like a regular storefront-ish? Yeah, yeah. How I think you'd want to set it up,

1.5 up front to get it done? You think that's a recoupable business? Yeah, absolutely. That's just expensive to get in. They're going to need to pay that 1.5. Something membership-based?

Oh, I didn't even think of that. Subscription. Membership-based. Bud Denhouse instead of the Soho House. That's how they do it at Cigar Bars. They can get your own locker so you can keep your strands in there that you got. Y'all already know who I'm going to have in there serving it up, too. Something nice.

Roy? Rosa. Oh. I'll smoke every day. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks, buddy. Smoke every day. I don't need Roy running around in two-piece serving up the wedding. In two-piece. Back with their papers. I have lost weight

Which do you prefer And I look pretty good Can't wait to show your body My summer body is coming in I wouldn't wear a two piece It'd be a one The backwoods scam Has gotten a lot worse

Since the last time I told y'all about The backwoods scam Are you still on that shit No it's bad You might not get One good backwood You might not

Yeah yeah But that's why I've been on the papers man It's worse now Yeah I do papers too That's why I've been on the papers man It's worse now Yeah I do papers too That's why I've been On the papers Papers and bongs

Fuck that Papers and bongs Papers man Or the glass blunt Those are two That's a little crackish Yeah I don't like the way

The pipe pause Makes the weed taste Okay When it goes through the water It cools it It makes it taste better But when it's just straight glass No the glass one Oh yeah when it goes through the water it cools it it makes it taste better but when it's just straight glass no the glass

oh yeah if it's like the bong or something like that yeah I like how the bong makes the weed taste but the straight pipe is too I'm with more aesthetically

it just makes me feel like crackhead a little crackish yeah I got a crackhead in my family I know when they hit that stem I know what that shit looks like

I didn't tell you to find a vein that's just a different drug that's different drug yeah that's a different drug what the fuck that's a whole got the needles with the butt at the butt then no no no no no no but i won't let your joke fly like you me more and parks ain't been around chicks that we liked a lot. And then they was like, I'm going to go to the bathroom. Want to come? Oh, yeah.

That's party time. No, you go ahead. I seen someone try to shoot crack in their veins one time. Shoot crack in their veins? Shoot crack in their veins? Yes. Not in the bathroom? They cooked it down, tried to purify it and all that shit.

It was a wild sight. What? Yeah. They were in a rough place. Have you checked on them recently? No, actually, I haven't. They might be out of here. They might be.

Trying that? Yo, shooting crack? Never heard of that. That's insane. Well, if you cook it down, I guess maybe you can get something out of it. No, you can definitely do it. We're not saying it's not possible. You know it's all the same, right? I don't think it's not we're not saying it's not possible you know all this is the same right

I don't think it's all the same no for the most part I think pills and heroin is the same for sure

is there no relation to pills heroin heroin crack coke no

crack and coke crack and coke is the same you're just mixing it. Y'all do believe that pills now are some of the other stuff. That's synthetic heroin. Pills are synthetic heroin. Well, it depends on the pill.

Yeah. For sure, right? That means, for the most part, have heroin. Yeah. But Oxycontin is heroin. Heroin. Heroin. Yeah.

For sure. But you, I mean, Adderall is still in that pill. That's a mess. That's a mess. But that's more of a Coke and Ritalin speed thing. Yeah. So yeah, it's all up or downer. You could just clean your room the normal way.

You don't need to do that. That is very true. I need Adderall. You just suck it up and clean your room. What do you got to do? I got to clean up. You could just mop and windex. Get a robo, man.

Yeah, like what the fuck is wrong with you? You got to stress yourself out. I got work to do. So how have you survived your whole life? I got to clean this whole fucking house. So you're going to take an Adderall because you got to clean your house and the bathroom and the kitchen. You just clean, bro.

You don't got to be an Adderall. Grab a Red Bull. What's up? How you think, y'all? Y'all niggas, man. That's who they got. Y'all love that. Listen, I think these new kids are good at this slang.

I do. I do. I'm going to come clean. I are good at this slang. I do. I do. I'm going to come clean. Whoever the age group was, who was that six years ago? Who was that? Z? One of those. X?

Millennials? Y'all just say that for anything. What's a millennial? Millennials, 80. That is not what I'm talking about. Nobody born in 80 was making this up. Millennials stretches for like 25 years. Yeah.

Really? I'm talking about them. Millennials is from- What's Rory? I'm a millennial, just like you, 1980 to 2000. That's wrong as hell. You got to be born between 1980 and 2000? Yeah.

Okay, fine. 1980 to 2000. Damn, Rory between 1980 and 2000? Yeah. Okay, fine. 1980 and 2000. Damn, Rory is down with me? No, no, no. 81 is millennial. No, we not. No, we're not the same gang. We gang.

We're not gang. No, you gang. I say wrong. We all gang, man. Don't touch my nipple again. We gang gang. I'll do it again. It's up.

We're not gang. I double tap. It's up. I'm not the same as y'all. It's gang. I don not getting it. I double tapped. It's up. I'm not the same as y'all. It's down. I don't know what Google says. Scream, man. Are you mad?

That's my point. Thank you, Scream, man. The Pew Research Center. Oh, that's the real word. My bad. You don't even know about Pew. Yes. You don't know about Pew, Rory.

You don't know about Pew. This says the Nelson Mandela Research Center. Can I read? Y'all don't speak Nelson's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that. It's up for you now

the pew research center defines millennials as born from 1981 to 1996 choosing these dates for blah blah blah i don't care that's always that's what i grew up learning now if they change that then y'all educating me but wait what does this have to do with september 11th it says they're just saying shit. Choosing these dates for key political, economic, and social factors, including September 11th. So only 1981 and 96 felt 9-11. Well, back to the point that I was attempting to make. Gen Z fucked up whatever they was trying to come up with the slang.

But these new kids... You like it? I like what they doing. Gen Z, they say, is 97 to 2012 slash 2015 see i don't even know what that means i'm talking about the later half of gen z to know the cool niggas i like what they're doing that's all that's all i got um all right i don't have anything else that i need to get to nothing is pressing nothing is that important to me. Did y'all see the Biggie doc? I liked it.

I didn't see it. It's good. I did see it. They're telling me it's good. It had a lot to do with him, his childhood, growing up. They talked to a lot of people from his childhood that we hadn't heard from. Some that we have heard from. Way more in detail.

A lot of the footage was D-Rock's personal footage from being on tour and just moving around with Big. It was dope, man. Which I didn't know that D-Rock had a camera on the entire time.

And I love that he held all this footage. Never gave it up till it was the right situation. It was really dope. It wasn't your typical Big Doc.

They stayed on the Pac shit for a second which I loved. We don't need to get into this. This is about Big that's great yeah it was good it was a real good i really enjoyed it got into to miss wallace a lot i mean i know she's been in other docs but this one felt more miss wallace ish got into big's uncle who did music too in jamaica like it was a bunch of stuff i really didn't know. You know, the interesting thing because we spoke about it on here on the pod

a few weeks ago is like how I said when we jumped the Chinese delivery man, we ordered like $200 worth of food and we beat him up and took the food. We didn't do that

because we were starving. Like I said, my mom cooked every night. It was food on my crib. It's just interesting to see big Catholic school. Mom had a job. You know what I mean?

Lived in a nice apartment. So this wasn't a kid that didn't have or was poverty stricken. It's just him trying to find his way and his friends in the community and just trying to figure out who he is, find his identity, find his voice. And he chose to go the route of the streets, which his mom, which any mom tries to keep your kids from. Do you think there's anything to the statistic of that being more probable when the dad is not in the household? There's a lot to do with that for sure when you don't have that male figure in the household i'm pretty sure it gives especially a son the room to want to kind of find his way as a man to find who he is as a person without having a proper figure in his life to

kind of got him he had the musician guy that lived on his block that he said he saw he wouldn't have like pretty women he was dating bringing them back to his crib he was like damn i want that like this guy plays he does music and it was interesting to his crib. He was like, damn, I want that. This guy plays, he does music. And it was interesting to see Big was a real heavy R&B guy. That's surprising. Big, in some of this footage, was singing, singing. Yeah. He had a couple notes that I didn't think Big could hit.

He was singing on this doc. Yeah, I didn't know Big was such an R&B head. We always give a lot of that credit and do credit to Puff about that R&B side of Big because he always wanted to do the B-side street shit. Big was an R&B head, according to all his friends and this footage. He really fucked with making actual songs and melodies. Doesn't surprise me. Couldn't go to sleep without listening to West Country music.

Not shocking to me, but super, super interesting. Yeah. Not shocking, but super interesting interesting yeah not shocking but super interesting i can see it not being shocking i'm saying where the credit usually was due with big in that more melodic r&b stuff that he did with samples and certain shit that that was really big well listen i i never envisioned puff forcing big to do play haters on life after death yeah like there's some records that you could kind of suggest someone do that's not one of them a record where you just sing the whole thing put your head like you got to kind of enjoy that to do that it was some of the bars that

he was uh in the clip i saw with puff talking about how melodic he was and how big of an r&b guy he was it was some other big lines that came up where i was like oh i guess he really did sing that one like it wasn't rapping at all i thought it was interesting uh and again i haven't seen this so don't take my word for anything i'm rushing home to watch not only this biggie doc but uh woody versus uh alan versus versus Pharaoh. I saw the first two episodes that was out. Yeah. Yeah, that was interesting. But you could look at Woody Allen and see a little creepy.

On Patreon, I'm going to really unpack what I think white crimes are. White crimes? Yeah. White collar. No, no. White collar. No, no. White skin. No, that's something that white people made up to make it sound sexy.

That's true. Incest is y'alls. Human trafficking is y'alls. There's mad shit that's y'alls. Don't sound as pretty as white collar. Well, I don't think sex trafficking and fucking your family member is white collar crime. I was thinking more.

I don't know if you would put that. But before we got off the big shit, I did want to ask Maul the lack of Lil' Kim in it and how deep they went into Junior Mafia and left Kim out of everything. Is that what happened? I felt it. You guys can correct when you guys do

watch it. I just felt a lack of presence from Kim. She wasn't even interviewed in a doc no no i know that i'm saying in general like there was other members and everything of junior mafia they just got into the junior mafia story and i felt like kim being such a big part of his life in his early years i felt kim was non-existent really in this doc the way she really was in the big story because they focused on saint james place and his upbringing kim being a part of that right and stayed away from the pop gossipy bullshit for the most part just wanted to bring it up if you noticed it i felt that when

it was over i was like wow i really didn't touch on kim like really at all definitely noticed it because she's not there and she was and she was like wow I really didn't touch on Kim Like really at all Definitely noticed it Because she's not there And she was She was there So you know You definitely feel it And notice it But you know

I can't speculate on why Or you know Why wasn't she a part of it That's on my list Of hip hop secrets To never be unearthed By the way I do have a list of those

That I just never want To hear more about And whatever dealings Actually transpired between Big and Kim as it pertains to some of the stuff that was going on back then I don't think the public needs to be privy to it I don't think it's none of our business I don't think we need to unearth those scars or traumatic times for Kim, Faith, Big's mom or anybody involved like some things is just like I think I think you're missing my point.

I'm not talking about their alleged relationship. As far as romantic partners, I'm saying they were talking about how Big was setting up Junior Mafia's first album and how he was writing all the things. He put together this whole...

Cease was saying, yo, he was on a record that never came out and just said Junior Mafia in the beginning. We was like, yo, what's Junior Mafia that never came out and just said Junior Mafia in the beginning. And we was like, yo, what's Junior Mafia? He was like, that's y'all now. Big's whole scheme in his head of putting all his friends on and making them.

And even Miss Wallace said, I feel like all of them would have had all these albums had Big still been alive because he had this plan in his head. The Kim thing to me is important in there. I don't care what their actual relationship was. That's of my business that's not what i'm talking about when you watch it you'll understand the junior mafia angle and how kim was the number one artist on that and it just felt weird of how good this doc was that kim wasn't a part of it and i can understand that because kim didn't like any of the notorious movie she's had some problems it just felt odd in the middle of the story that kim was not any type of mention hit my question to you and i haven't seen it i'm just asking do you think

that the story of junior mafia can be properly told without stepping into that romance uh romanticism a little bit properly no properly no but the way they were talking about just just music so if they skip it you know you just music. So if they skip it. You know it was something skipped. If they skip it, then. Well, I'm saying just music-wise. Yeah. Which dabbles back into it.

But it was just a very odd thing throughout the whole thing. The Biggie Doc rushing home to see it. Woody versus Pharrell rushing home to see it. And I don't know what Franklin doing, but he better be on the run. Because Wednesday night, Scully on your ass again I found his Instagram page he look tough there too I'm happy

for him though man and Savon write down white collar crime for next week to get into your theories you know in his real life personal life he went through some tough times but it's good to see him back acting and having such a prominent role in a big show on TV. This is dope.

I agree. I can't wait to watch it tonight. What else is going on? Hold up, man. This is episode 420, though, so you know I got to put that... Put something in the air, if you're real. Let me see if I can get somebody on the phone. Let me see. Smoking that good on the phone. Let me see.

Smoking that good monogram. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to say. I'm going to sign. Oh. Let's see what I can do right quick. I got somebody to get on the phone. Give me a second.

After you get them on the phone. Give me two seconds. Let me see what's really going on. Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do. Oh, come on, man.

I'm trying to get flowers. Answer the phone. Answer the phone. All right. People don't want flowers today. All right. Maybe we'll call back. What did you say, Mo?

Yeah, put it up, man. Put it up. Super reg. Super reg. Super reg. Big runts. Big runts popping. Let me see that. That plug.

Is it la la or za za? Blah ka. Oh. Don't interrupt my verse like that again. My bad. Is it la la or za za? Blah ka. What's la la or za za? Blah ga. What's the reason of 420?

On the front and past. Burn it to ta ta. Molly mall. And I'm talking to all of y'all. Ball or fall. What you think? Ball or fall. This nigga's crazy.

Yo. Saha, what up? It's Maul from the Joe Button Podcast. How you feeling, bro? What it do, my guy? Ain't shit, man. First of all, it's good to see you doing well feeling well I appreciate that I appreciate that I don't know, man. I mean, hey, tell him he got to catch up. Saha.

What it do, Joe? Oh, my God. Listen, man, you said that shit about me. I've been listening to your album all day now, preparing. Well, first of all, what up? One thing about it, bro, I don't care what you say. I've been listening to you, bro. So it's respect, even though I don't mind getting on stage. I've been listening to you, bro. So it's respect, even though I don't mind getting on stage and putting on for the culture.

I know, man. I know. It's all in fun. Earlier I was saying how I don't think it's fair that you are picking on a retired non-active rapper. And truthfully, I'm in fear for my life when i go outside when i hear music now so yeah i think you're picking on me because i'm retired leave me alone yeah you're right bro they always bring that one little spat up i thought but you see i told him i said nah me and joe good joe's a fan he just don't he feel like i should do my thing you know what i mean yeah i mean yeah

my only thing with that yeah you know i don't even need to rehash that. But, yeah, that was it. Outside of that, it's everything, man. I enjoyed the interview. First off, let me tell you, we're so happy that you're just in good spirits and everything is cool and the shit that we read about. We won't speak about it because words have power. But thank God you're okay, first and foremost. Man, thank you so much

bro for real man i seen a clip that y'all did speak on that i was gonna tell you man i appreciate that bro yeah no that was that was that was that was super heavy uh and super important to read like right now with just some of the loss that we've experienced as a culture uh and and you know but for us niggas that's in it like I don't know how much more of it I can stand like especially with people that I'm fly with who I enjoy like so that one touched me I was just glad that everything was cool

nah for sure man that shit crazy bro like that's why I threw me off too like man like yeah but since I've been retired like you said I've been retired for so long but since then've been retired like you said i've been retired for so long but but but since then let me ask let me ask you something but but since then have you slowed down with leaving some of the emojis under the beautiful women on instagram's comments no i i think man

that's that's oh i mean did i did i put emoji under the wrong one? I mean I certainly hope not I hope not I don't know how you be doing it But you figure it out Bruh I do it from home I don't go outside

Hold on Joe How did you pull that one off? Why you super lyrical niggas like these fine chicks, man? We just got to leave emojis and shit. Right. That's all I do, though, bro. It's all in fun. That's it.

Yeah, no, true. True indeed. Listen, so we read your post. We read your post about you looking for a situation. I had a few jokes, but the truth of the matter is, like, we do need your album. For real. Yeah. Yeah, man.

You know, man, with music and you know the type of music that we do, bro. It's like, it's heavily sample driven. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, a lot of people are like, man, put it out yourself and do this. But the caliber of artists, unfortunately, I get to work with, they ain't going to just come out of the house for no $10,000 video. You know what I mean? Like, Trav ain't

finna fly to Atlanta to do no $5,700 video, you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, but Trav wasn't on your last album, and I loved it. Oh, yes, he was on your last album. Yeah, exactly, but when I went in to try to shoot the video, the label was like, hey, man, it's got to be $100,000.

It's got to be this, that, this, this, this. And that's what a lot of times, a lot of people, yeah, I can do this independently. But I spend a lot of money independently just putting it together. You know what I'm saying? So then when it comes to marketing it You know you want to be able to market these songs just as just as big as they are Just as far as off name or sound you know me so I just like at this point I need like I say I need that partner and ain't like I'm going in there as an artist anymore

I feel like I made enough to be able to like come in there and I feel like I made enough to be able to like come in there and, and, and ask for certain things or ask for a more favorable situation and be able to retain. Yeah. But with the relationships that you do have with these artists, this ain't just like, uh,

let me reach out. You've worked with these people, right? You would want to take the major route of owing back a huge budget just to do a video and pay them their actual fee rather than going with like an empire where you could still get some upfront budget money and pay them on some friendship and still keep most of the rights to your music i mean that's that's what i am doing you know i'm saying i do have that like you know it's beautiful that you said that guys he is calling me tonight.

Yeah. I said before this, I think everything you said in this post sounds in it, not just Empire, but labels like Empire. It makes the most sense to me for the type of music you make. One thing, like I said, one thing I do want to do is like this. Some artists like I will give you this example. Some artists, like, I will give you this example. A lot of times we get into this independent stage because you do have Atlanta artists that have a lot of money. So a lot of times these labels lean on that. You get what I'm saying?

But what these guys got to go through to be able to put their album out and own their masters and all that. I'd rather be a traditional artist with a more favorable situation and do it up front in the right way. In Atlanta, like I said, niggas are stepping on niggas, niggas shooting it out, niggas selling a lot of this, niggas doing time for that to be able to get that $400,000

to be able to put that behind that record. You know what I'm saying? How I'm looking at it it's like let me get a partner who i'm bringing this album already done already got great artists on it so all it's a lot of equity in it already so now i have i do have leverage because the option is putting it out myself i do have that option is this album better than is this album better than no dope on sunday relax relax relax stop don't stop that you're a liar no no i promise you how you know that you can't even say that

that's our job to say the fans i mean i'm a different but if y'all like no dope on sunday i really didn't have no budget no nothing to do no dope on sunday that's kind of our point to you that shit right you don't need you don't need that to get to the magic and that album was magical. Even when I played it today, I was like, man, I feel like I would get this nigga, but man, it'd be tough. And again, the expense is you work with these artists.

You're not the one reaching out for the favor. You've been able to move your career in a different way. You've been able to you've been able to you know move your career in a different way you've been able to get in certain rooms you know you kind of docile so if i if i wrote if i wrote the word the on sicko mode travis would have to show up wherever i am you would think that i me trust me i know he's a mega star so I get that it's tough it's tough getting him to move

but god damn man I mean you'll be surprised like bro you don't niggas don't want to see me there cause then who gonna help him exactly

well Sy let me ask you to that when you said when you said in that caption who I've been signed to in the past hinders me from getting the opportunity

I deserve right do you feel like being signed to good music past hinders me from getting the opportunity I deserve. Do you feel like being signed to good music and the opportunities you've gotten as an artist, whether that be features or albums that you have been put on or writing credits, what part do you think you haven't deserved in that opportunity with good music and what would you want out of it instead? you know to be to be truthful bro I never was signed to good music okay I've never been signed to good music okay unfortunately I was signed to boo and that's a con brother I know boo and he had a deal a label deal at Def Jam at that time but you know you know he did what he could do but you know he's from atlanta as well and he

wanted me to do it the atlanta route he knew i had a street crew he wanted me to kind of run up run up a check and do it like the atlanta dudes and i ain't really want to go back to my life because i was kind of in it with some different kind of gangsters it wasn't just the regular criminals on the street getting money you know i'm saying so once i was able to leave the street i definitely retired i didn't want to go back so you know dudes finessing your budget and figuring out how you know get a little extra money out of it yeah when it's time for you to use it that money ain't there you get what i'm saying so i was already on death jam for a year before I ever met Kanye. When I met Kanye, he tried to get me out of my deal, but Boo and Khan really wasn't budging.

But they were like, man, you already on Def Jam, so just let us do that. Ye kind of got fed up with him because this ain't the $5 billion. Yeah, yeah. This is still $ 30 million in debt. You know what I mean? My beautiful dark twisted fantasy. He ain't been out in two, three years. So he was just like, man, come with me, bro.

Come, you know, help me create and we'll figure out your situation in the future. And then I just became good at that, that I kind of like understood getting my publishing. And I kind of got myself out of my deal with Boo and all of them. And then that's when I was able to put out No Dope on Sundays. So you are free. So you're free of the Boo situation. Yeah, I'm free of everything. I'm free of Def Jam, everything.

It was just, you know, early on in my career, I was signed to some street dudes that people didn't want to deal with then i got with a con in them and it just got messy then they didn't want to deal with them and then a lot of people thought i was signing yay and niggas really don't want to deal with him you know what i mean so it's like i just had to put the filler out to let people know like i'm a free agent i'm able to do whatever i want to do with my music and my career so that's why that's why i really let that message out do you have do you have a preferred destination uh my preferred destination uh i really just want to go with somebody who really want to work with me but i'm

i'm an intersco that's my if it was intersco that's like my favorite uh secondly i would love to like empire or rock nation somebody that's like hands-on or like black on that kind of understand it but still on a high level of thinking and after that it's just whoever you know whoever wants to you know do business with me and be part of history got you oh man i hope we don't have to suffer through this process i want some you give us a leak or something man god damn it yeah man it was a freestyle like we need that music man something just yeah i got like three song ep even no i mean that's what that's what i was looking at doing as well like doing a ep but you know, you know, I grew up on like, you know, DMX, Joe Buttons, fucking Nas, Jay. They had bodies of work.

Yeah. Like, I don't think people really get you to respect. I'm going to just say this, even though we can battle anytime. But your first album, bruh, like so detailed it has so many different emotions it has so many different stories and how you speaking about the alcoholism and how you used to just you know you smoke cigarettes all i just remember just how i used to feel like damn this nigga so honest bruh i don't even hear rappers and and to me that's what drew me to to your style and to your you know your music and your album i got like i said i got a home girl who know your album

from front to back she a female till i say hey why don't you think you could do that i interrupt him when he's bigging me up that's my biggest thing that i'm just i'm obsessed with bodies of work i'm really not cool with releasing a single and releasing a ep i'm like i want y'all to hear this whole concept i put together i know it's a concept what's the title of it i know it's a concept what is it well i got actually i got three albums though joe they all done so I'm gonna give you all three of them I got slick woke I got the book of EGOT that I don't know if you know what the EGOT is that's Emmy Grammy Oscar Tony um and I got the spook that's set by the door I need that middle one

I need to hear that EGOT you know what I'm saying and they all different they all polar opposites like I'm just showing my full diversity in the next 12 to 18 months when i released these three albums so i just been over the past two and a half years i just been collecting and you know i mean i got benny i got west side gun i got mozzie i got corday i got tra, I got everything on these three albums. And this is how I wanted to go out because I'm looking to move in more to film, more to just, you know, the executive side of, you know, the music business. I've been in it so long and I would love to change another artist's life because I've been through so much in the music industry that I want to right my wrongs. Almost like, let me show y'all

how y'all supposed to do an artist. Let me show y'all how y'all supposed to manage him and different things. That's my plan for the next 12 to 18 months. Y'all can be looking out for all that. I'll make sure you get some exclusives. I bring you out

to retirement, bro. I put you on one of these, bro. Listen, we can go back and forth on the beat. That would be awesome, man. I'm a huge fan, and that's a short list of people. You definitely on it. Fans are going to tell me I'm dick riding, but I don't care. Your penmanship is where it needs to be.

This is my last label question for you. What's up? Do you have a certain number in your head that you need before you even entertain a conversation with any of the labels uh definitely is it a difficult deal to get done no it's not a difficult deal to get done because the music is already done got it but i do want to i am going to ask for something because i want to be able to hold these folks accountable. You know, a lot of times I go in there on this humble approach and let them lowball me. And if you don't make me spend no money, they ain't really pressed to get it back.

You know what I mean? But if you make them spend a decent coin, they're going to be looking at me like, hey, I need that back. All right. So that's kind of where I'm at with the label situation got it listen man me you Benny and Royce book it book it

book it Dano man I'll go practice for a few months get ready I gotta get Conway on that though I gotta get Conway on that now you making the song six minutes hell yeah it can't be under six it can't be under six Y'all gotta get Conway on that Now you making the song Six minutes Yeah Hell yeah Right right right It can't be under six

It can't be under six Go get Conway on that thing Y'all go crazy Yo but now We should kick it It's alright We gonna I wanna talk to you

Offline They really gonna say I'm dick riding now But yeah We'll talk We'll talk offline I wanna I wanna

I wanna I wanna just help Any way that I could I don't think more years Should go by Without us hearing from you. I don't. Yeah. Hey, man, listen, man, I appreciate it, man.

You know, I'm very humble, bro. Like a lot of times I kind of had to just open up, man. This situation that just happened to me a few weeks ago, man, kind of just put things in perspective for me. You know, I got this. I've been trained on the street cold cold and not really talk about your life and talk about if anything goes wrong with a label most people would just lash out and be like man this didn't do this and this didn't do that i really don't do that you know what i'm saying i kind of just keep it and take

my punches how they go you know what i mean but i think people want to know more about me more about my life why am i just mystique individual so i just felt like it's when i did adam and i did vlad and now you guys are calling it's like i kind of got to open up and let people know who i am the hell you doing on vlad man because i don't see you know i see a lot of guys got it you know you know a thing about vlad but listen i ain't in the streets no more he can ask me what he want to ask you i ain't no you know i mean it'd be these niggas who teeter in the line that can't go on there and really explain theyself or be able to articulate right because they still doing shit they don't supposed to be doing yes you know i

mean so he he looking at them like man i remember when I interviewed Joe Buttons when he came out, he was a rapper. I could ask Joe Buttons anything I wanted to ask him. But these niggas, you can't really ask them that because they really ain't full-fledged rappers. Yeah, not at all. They first line be like, what? They first line be like, Joe, I'm a street nigga. I ain't a rapper. They'll tell you.

They'll tell you exactly what's that they rap. Exactly. So I'm a rapper, rapper bro i'm proud to be one proud to be an mc and i love hip-hop so yeah it's good that you humble man but vasaha please understand that you are one of the best niggas at this rap shit oh yeah no i just need you to hear me say it because like there's a you know it's a lot of niggas out here that Claim they nice and claim they can rap But just be clear that you are one of the few that Time and time again

Every time you step out you show and prove So we just want to salute you Yo she was my little sweetie pie Can't believe I deserved it That was crazy I'ma tear your ass up When I get to you god damn it You too nice I'ma tear your ass up When I get to you god damn it You too nice

I'ma learn I'ma learn your nice ass A good lesson That's how we love you man I'ma talk to you up here Alright man for sure man Hit me up It's all love bro

One bro Alright fam Peace Alright y'all be beautiful Listen man When the jokes get When it's all When it's all said and done.

I mean, we talk shit as elite MCs, but... But still... I came not to cause the righteous, but to send us to repentance. I'm letting this rock boil a little bit. The production... I didn't know this was all independent, too. The production value.

Fuck the features. This sounded expensive, the production. Yeah, you can cut him off. You can cut him off this whole album. It sounds good. It's insane. So much so, when I listen to this today, they're really going to say I'm dick riding now. Some of the songs I really didn't like on the second half of the album originally, I love today.

I love today. All that shit with kanye that and the song right after that but anyway different we pray every night we pray every night to make it out of these struggles we pray all the time y'all know his conceptual ass got three concepts somewhere i want to hear him i want to get into into that point when this is over. Yo, Mesa, Benny Royce, Conway, you said? That's the Spitters. Anybody missing off there?

Right now? Banks, I got to hear something for I put you on here yeah thanks but I know you ain't say nothing about it no no you just link him I'm gonna go back to my old bank account. plays my operation running smooth brother two just in case these niggas in the grumpy move oh i heard they bought that gunplay cool we bought that gunplay too my friend they booze made the front page news i like my hunters blue chuck your juice i'm not playing yeah he different i can't i can't hear all that man he bogged down i thought that was interesting when he said uh i don't really want to do the little three pack of the freestyle when he said freestyle but just the quick little lucy joints because i come from the era of like dmx and people that put out full bodies of work understand that point i totally do but i do think artists like dmx

hove everybody do adapt to their time and would have done the three pack thing drake comes from that era and adapts. You're wrong. Yeah, but I mean... First of all, we can't prove it, so I'm not wrong. So that's a weird response. I think you're wrong.

You don't think that someone like an ex or a Hove or even the greats from the 90s didn't adapt to their time and wouldn't have done so with the internet as well? Because Hove even did that that way with freestyles and other little loosey shit. I agree with you there. I think you are compounding two different points. I think that the artist you named

I named the artist he named. Adapt to the time. I came up with those artists because he named them. I don't think that DMX at any point in his career was putting out a three pack. I disagree. Even if that was the way of the land. Him and who he was. Maybe Hove.

Who else did you name? Well, I went off the list. He said Hove and DMX. He said Hove, X, me, and one more, and Nas. Maybe he put me there just as a respect thing. I know I don't belong there. But X. Here's the thing, x and a three pack

no okay that's all okay can i can i can i quickly quickly give a response to that and why i think x would i've seen a lot of the new age artists that and i don't want to make this a bad thing but let's just go off x's admitted past that uh were homeless drug addicts uh had been down on their luck in certain cases adapt to the whole internet culture and only focused on the internet culture and the internet culture has to do with three packs so i could totally see dmx who was an incredibly intelligent person and artist that just suffered from an addiction doing that i could totally see x doing that X knew exactly what he was doing through that whole first two album shit.

That's why. And he adapted to the times more in saying, yeah, I'm putting out two albums in one year. No one's done that shit. And they're both going to go number one. Roy and I can find a debate out of anything. Anything he says, I can pull a debate out of it. I don't believe that three packs.

I think that's what anybody is. I don't believe that three packs are an internet thing. They are. I don't. How can I I don't believe that three packs are an internet thing they are I don't how can I put out a three pack otherwise how could you any way you want you could walk around

and sell it you could do whatever you want I don't know EPs existed before the internet yeah I don't think that of course they did I'm not saying that not very common in hip hop

and the common the common to feed for it to be so common today I think is a direct response to label activity not internet no i was going off what you said to saha and yo feed feed us real quick man we've been waiting we've been waiting to feed your something i need something that's what i'm speaking to to

feed your fan base real quick come on it's been a couple years let me get a little three pack let me get two records two packs single not even a real single but one little record yeah i could totally see x and everyone from that era doing that they did it they just did it in their era style and they were innovative and changed and went with the times they would do the same thing in the internet era they definitely would they were geniuses they would do that whatever side of this argument that i need to be on for him, Saha, to actually release a three-pack is where I fall. Well, that was. That's what I got.

I didn't want to interrupt the conversation that was at hand, but I would have liked to say to Saha that exact thing. Saha calling back for the smoke. I said, yo. What up? Why? Yo, niggas make the all-star game and answer the phone different. You hear this, nigga? Yeah, yeah.

You sound crazy now that you an all-star. I ain't going to hold you man that energy was crazy just now we've been calling you for a month they start italian votes and we just can't put by you no more i voted for you nigga julius congratulations congratulations man Julius, congratulations. Congratulations, man. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. It ain't even nothing for me to say. I can't even believe this.

I can't believe y'all are four and a half back or first. Fourth place? No, no, four and a half back or first. It ain't over. Pardon me. Pardon me. Hey, Drew. It ain't over, Joe.

Hey, Drew. The Nets want to keep getting fly. The Nets want to carry home the day. All right. Hey, James got a headache., the Nets want to keep getting fly. The Nets want to carry home the day. All right. Hey, James got a headache. He chilling tonight. All right. All right, the young boys playing today.

Oh, man. Y'all funny, dog. Y'all funny. Y'all got to come, man, when it opens up for real. Y'all got to come home, bro. Y'all got to come through. Now, I'm not getting out there with them weird-ass white boys celebrating outside the garden after you niggas went.

I keep saying to them niggas, it's too exciting. That jumped me. Yeah, man. I told them. I said, yo, the team ain't been this good in years. Like, Jules was like, yo, this is crazy, though. Like, this is insane. Well, Jules, you just got here, right?

So, is this even, like, is this even, like, like, do you know about crazy New York Knicks fans and, like, the drought? How long it's been? The Pat Finger rolls. John Starks, three for 19. The Hubert Davis foul. Like, you just got here and you kind of young. But for us? Oh, my God.

Just to see it done the right way. Forget about y'all for a minute, Julius. Leon Rose, Kenny Payne, World Wide West, Tibbs, Mike Woodson. Our last winning season was Mike Woodson at the helm. The organization seems to have got it right. We building through the draft. Wow, quickly. Wow, topping. And then you, nigga, it's up.

What are we doing, man? Man, I told you. I told you. We talked for a couple months ago. I said it. I said it. It's different, man. It's a different part.

It's a different energy. Tell Noel New Orleans my bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you was kind of taking his back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give my man his respect, man. Give my man his respect. But was he like this in Dallas?

He going crazy in New York. What New York pussy he getting? He going crazy. He acting like he want to stay. Yeah, he want to stay. He playing like he want to stay. Nah, he going crazy. So you're wilding.

You're wilding. Nah, you don't have to deal. I just, listen. He's doing unbelievable shit out there. Niggas ain't missed a beat since Mitch went down. When he get back, I'm just hyped. I'm just hyped. Hey, hey, hey.

Hey, we could drug one of them Dallas niggas, get them right back on that losing streak. We got their draft pick. Are you kidding me? We get Luke up out of here and get that draft pick. We out of here, man. What happens next year? I know he can't say nothing to what I'm saying. I definitely feel the energy, though, bro.

The energy in the city is crazy right now. So, we're actually pushing forward. You niggas might as well go ahead and hug Efrid Payton. You know what, bro? No, you don't say no. You're in trouble. You have a good season. You know what, bro? No, you don't say no. You're in trouble. Yeah,

I wasn't. You had a good season. You don't say worse. Nah, he know, we spoke, nah, we spoke last year

and I was like, yo, I wasn't big on this game. I like him though. But now like, I like him though. Yeah. I like him too.

Yeah. I like the Knicks team, man. Yo, this reminds me of the Steve Novak, Jason Kidd team that I liked a lot.

Rasheed Wallace, the veterans on that team. I like that team a lot. This team reminds me of that. What? While we're talking about it, give respect to my man Tibbs too, bro. You're on a hell of a job. Coach of the year candidate in my book. For sure.

Coach of the year candidate. I'm not even worried about him playing you 57 minutes a night. Go ahead and run your little legs wild. Yo, can you speak to what quickly look like in person? Yo, now come on. He's stepping back. Come on.

Quick, quick, quick, bro. He a confident dude, dog. You see his whole swag on the court, bro. He's confident. You know what I mean? He don't care to make mistakes. He's just out there hooping, playing free. And I think a lot of that he did because he worked his ass off.

So it's easy to be confident. I mean, you work your ass off with quick hooping, bro. And I've never seen a rookie get this many calls ever in my life. Me neither. Me neither. Me neither. I think that's due to that floater, though. No, it's the floater,

but he know how to drop out and all that type of stuff. He know how to step back and jay your fucking face out from 35 and leave his hand in the air, too. Yo, Jules, between us and just the millions of people that listen every week,

you cried when you became an all-star? Tell the truth. Absolutely. I respect that. That's real shit. I? Tell the truth. Absolutely. I respect that. That's real shit. I respect that. That's real. I respect it.

It was my journey. From the beginning when I started, broke my leg in my first game. My career, everything I had to do. Hell yeah.

This nigga passing off the double team now, man. If these niggas don't stop playing with us. Why are they playing with us, man? Yo, playoff game in New York. I'm near, man. Yo, D-Rose back. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. That was a sneaky genius move, man. Yes, sir. Shout out. He hooping, too. Yo, do you feel any responsibility now that the Knicks are halfway decent and there's hope out here, like during the offseason? Well, wait, we got to sign him first, right?

No, that's happening. That's happening. That's happening. That's happening. Yeah, we got that. Wait, wait, wait. I'm going to chummy chummy with this nigga. He might try to leave.

Yo, Jules, man. I already told you. Hey, Jules, I already told you. I said if you try to leave, nigga. New York will have your ass, buddy. But listen, real quick. If you stay, I know that's big business with that. Do you feel any responsibility to attempt to speak to some other free agents about just the change in culture and organization in

new york and try to lure anybody that maybe could help not big big big names i'm not talking about all that bullshit just key names that could help yeah uh i mean absolutely but it gotta be the right it gotta be the right thing you know i mean it's like i said everything we're doing now it's different bro and uh dudes gotta be willing to buy into what we're doing. So everybody, this ain't meant for everybody. So, you know what I mean? Got to be the right person, right fit, right situation. None of that ego shit, none of that diva shit.

No, none of that. None of that. We trying to move in games. Right. I need to see that C on Jules that seat that seat on on jules jersey i don't know what the hole up is oh i heard about that i didn't know that was a big deal out here i mean it is with the yankees it is with the knicks to it there's a long time nick fan like only big dog knicks have gotten that seat and you've earned it. So I think the fans are showing you your appreciation,

but for this to really end the way it's supposed to end, maybe at the start of next season, we get that C, man. You leading these boys. You leading these boys. I even saw you walk Obi to the bench one night. Come sit down over here, man. Let me talk to you. That's my guy.

Don't do that. I like Obi. I like Obi. Don't do that. I like Obi. I like Obi. Don't do that. I like him. I like him. Cool. Playoffs.

We up, man. Yo, who you hoping for? I know you can't say. Don't matter, man. We got to play our best game. Don't matter. We don't want none of that political shit. Don't matter.

We'll talk over here. Yeah, we'll talk over here. Them Pacer niggas think we sweet. Yeah, yeah. Niggas want it with the Pacers. They think it's up for us. I we sweet. Yeah, yeah. Niggas want it with the Pacers? They think it's up for us. I'll drive to Indiana, nigga.

That's all. Jewel's love, man. Playoffs is on. We there. All right, good. Later. I don't like that with sports where they can't be honest the way everyone else can. It's corny that that, because he can't do that.

You know he can't do that. He never can. It would ruin everything. Of course. But it's sports. He should be because he can't do that. You know he can't do that. He never can. It would ruin everything. Of course. But it's sports. Like, he should be able to say that. Yeah. I hate that that's the culture of sports. Yeah, that's why.

Should be able to wear your durag on the bench if you're not playing. Agreed. Yeah. That was a great two calls. Yeah, it was. Shout out to Jules, man. For sure. And Sahai.

And Sahai. Yeah, word. Two really good guys, man. Go ahead and make Jules that captain, man. I don't know what the fuck they thought. What are they doing? I know they stopped doing it for a while. Yeah, I was wondering if they even still did that.

They stopped doing it. But who did they? Mello was a captain. Oh, was he? Okay. Pat was a captain. That's why I said it was a big. Mason or Oakley, one of them.

I remember the Pat era. Somebody big. Jules should be a captain. I don't feel like I've seen a C in an NBA jersey in 15 years. We ain't giving you that captain. It's been a captain. That's why I said it was a big. Mason or Oakley, one of them. I remember in the Pat era. Somebody big. Julius would be a captain. I don't feel like I've seen a seat on an NBA jersey in 15 years. We ain't giving you that captain as you

out. It's been a while. Did Mello have the seat on there though? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And demand it too. Pay it.

Pay it. Yeah. Pay it. Did you know they're averaging 23, 10, and 5? Well, we have way through the season.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves I need the Mavs to lose some more the Mavs keep losing they might be in trouble in a few years mic check

mic check mic check mic check 1 2 1 2 1 2 back in my R&B bag Manny Wells song is called So Good He buggin' on here too

Manny Wells, I don't know you, but I love this This slaps right here Girl, you look so good Don't know how you do it Always say goodbye When I see you on my line Everybody praises The power in your phrases

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My feet make a garden for you We all see you living your truth So that is why I double tap When you bless us with your presence And I never take it lightly cause time is of the essence Shawty you's a blessing, you keep on caressin' Us without touchin' and you Got me feelin' like no other Praises to the Holy Father You got one in a million Oh-ah, oh-ah You, ooh, ooh, be killin' that You got one in a million Brand new old music from Andy Wells That one is called So Good I love that beat, I love that joint

He did what he had to do there I'm telling you, I keep on My excitement about the future R&B is much brighter than Other genres Like, these new dudes It's a few new dudes every week that pop up with Yeah, you ain't lost Shout out to Manny Wells man

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no no no no I can take it, I'm a fool, and all I want's the truth You can keep on playing games, you'll realize too soon There's no love like me, baby I can see you ready to hold Tell me if you wanna let go, baby It's the way you make me feel so Wanna see what you got to show, baby Take you back to my place, love you by the fireplace Girl, what you want from me, I need

I just need that one thing Hold me down with your repress Like it's supposed to be And I want your body, so Pass that blame, let shit burn You gotta grab on what you want Hit and run when we gon' learn Make him wait this time, yeah Before things fall apart Just guard your broken heart

Get what you need for that other shit He could beg for it Man, I can see you're ready to go Girl, I'll tell you what I mean Tell me if you want me to come over Just the way you make me feel so Yeah, I think I'll let you Wanna see what you got to show, baby

Take you back to my place Love you by the fireplace Girl, what you want from me? I just need that one thing Hold me down with your embrace Like it's supposed to be You know, it's a real cold night in Los Angeles So I'ma need you to make me a warm dinner

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This is Show Me. Y'all know me. project this is show me I'm Draymond, my little homies will catch you in the field I tell them play ball, witness ain't seen a thing Shake his head like E-Ray Charles, silence is cold And fuck your big homie, a lot of them told I'm chasing treasure till I'm showered in gold Fuckin' these modeling hoes They self-esteem is snowing lines up they nose I'm gettin' money while they swallow me whole I'm a Mac nigga, I had the backhand stamped on my smack nigga

I'm tryin' rap, the fiends ask my smack nigga I'm tryna rap the fiends asking where I'm at nigga Thousand dollar day flow off the crack nigga Always strapped nigga, yeah, buzz, I'm that nigga Real niggas know I play the bust like Pittsburgh If you don't come along to shop, nigga, you get curbed If your J live on my block, we get dibs first If it's a problem, you get hit first Nigga, niggas thinkin' you gon' slide You look nervous in my eyes Oh, you murder time to time, you gotta show me, nigga

You gon' beef or you gon' hide You gon' trap or you gon' lie I get active with my guys, y'all know me Niggas thinkin' you gon' slide You look nervous in my eyes Oh, you murder time to time You gotta show me, nigga You gon' beef or you gon' hide Soon on track or you gon' lie, I get active with my guys I know me nigga We eatin', I'm beggin' your pardon A bull thousand for this T and that's every department

I made thousands off of sleeps and that's various markets You sound scared when you talk your energy weird from the walkin' I lead a huddle knowin' what I'ma run when they call in I'm trying to make it to that goal once that ball in Them niggas study offense, I'm focused how that D play Scrape the resi off it, then cut it like a DJ It's all in the game, I tell them that it's EA I change the stamp and use the same dope, it's a replay

Them niggas, you think tough, they do whatever we say I got a shooter with me, he moving like he Weebak It's a replay, the niggas you think tough They do whatever we say I got a shooter with me, he movin' like he Wee-Bang I did, nigga, you can try it I promise you that, it's not the gram Only bullets gon' follow you back Don't take the stand, cause it's never a honorable rap Only suckas gon' honor you back, my nigga Niggas thinkin' you gon' slide you look nervous in my eyes oh you murder time to time gotta show me show me you don't have to count me in project

he went crazy that was dope that was hard play some off this new devin the dude album this is planter this album is great it really is you're in the devin the dude hive too You're in the Dev and the Dude hive too. Oh, for sure. Crazy? I left that off your hive. Name a bad Dev and the Dude album, please. I try to do right, now that I'm grown. Hardly never stayed home, I used to wander and roam.

Only thing was on my mind was weed, women and wine. Be with only one woman for a limited time. Then it's on to the next. All about sex, fuck respect. Trying to put my dick in a bitch's neck. Straight wreck, straight wreck. I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch. I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch.

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Straight reckless, spreading myself thin Really wasn't concerned about my health then Now it's quite different, my life's shifting I promise that I'll have a more honest way of living I don't know if it's a guilty conscience or what But you still think I'm fucking up Sleeping while you're peeping through my wallet in my pants pocket Believing that I'm cheating everyday, man, fuck it Your reasons not to trust me simply don't hold weight Whatever happened to us being soulmates?

If you wanna know what's going on I ain't breaking up a happy home But if we gonna get along Please leave a nigga's shit alone Why you always think I'm doing wrong You're the only girl I'm finna bone Why you always going through my phone? Please leave a nigga shit alone

You got me wondering, is it real or fake? Going deep cover, trying to build a case Cracking codes to my passwords Checking my location Feels like I'm on probation Calling numbers back that I missed with no name But always coming up with nothing yup you're so vain Every text message that you send me you mad and always bringing up the ex niggas you had didn't want to do it but i let my heart unfold but lo and behold you're going through my car console i guess you're looking for rubbers names or numbers some another said you talked to your brother You heard he said what?

Saw me with a bitch at the turkey leg hut Thinking I'm doing wrong every time that I'm gone And every time I leave you always hide my cologne If you wanna know what's going on I ain't breaking up a happy home But if we gonna get along, please leave a nigga sit alone Why you always think I'm doing wrong? You're the only girl I'm in the bone Why you always going through my phone? Please leave a nigga sit alone Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'll see you next time. I'm a real jerk, I'm a real jerk Don't nobody know why Nobody knows why Y'all niggas still down in the streets

And don't nobody know why Nobody knows why Don't nobody know why Y'all niggas still down in the streets And don't nobody know why It's not high 38 snub hugger Jealousy is a motherfucker

Swear these niggas are killing their blood brother All for the love of the money And gangbusters, the drug hustle But let me say this before the judge judges I must have done something We already getting it out the mud puddle Then on top of that the flood struck us Super for them boys' covers am invested in. I turned it down. Is that better? It does excite me when people that I'm

like truly invested personally, when I'm personally, that I personally root for. You know, everybody says that. Everybody says, oh, we root for everybody.

No, I don't. I don't root for everybody. So when the people that I do root for like get to getting it, like watching the knicks like enjoy each other yeah it was some dude after the game he still had his whole warm-up on i didn't know i have no idea who he was and he was celebrating like he had just scored 40 with the

gang and they treated him the same way as a long 10-year nick fan i ain't seen it like that yeah i ain't seen it like that smiling high-fiving arms around each other headed to the locker room I ain't even seen Tibbs smile before this year like think about it me and Julie spoke about that in private he said he told me he said yo bro

the energy the chemistry here he was like no ego he was like it's just different he was like you know what I mean like people gonna start to see it like it's just different. He was like, you know what I mean? Like, people are going to start to see it. Like, it's just different. Like, we really fuck with each other. I seen Quickly hit a shot, a shot that he probably shouldn't have taken. And they panned to the bench.

And Tibbs just smiled. You know that shit that they show Steve Kerr doing every time Curry take a shot that he just shouldn't take? I was like, what you going to say? Like, Tibbs did one of those. I was like, whoa. We don't get say? Like, Tim did one of those. I was like, whoa. We don't get that. We don't get one of those. So happy for them.

To hear Sy High, like, focus on whatever the next step in the mission is after almost being assassinated. And I use that term purposely. Incorrectly. Yeah, man. Wow. How do you not smile? smell more death there's more death back to my theory about the same amount of death uh in 2021 that occurred in 2020 maybe we just a

bit more desensitized uh a bit more accustomed to it but shit still fucked up out here i encourage everybody to move with caution be careful keep your eyes on the prize head down until the job is done man it ain't too much time for fun in new york city this ain't atlanta this ain't texas this ain't them other spots man we up here getting to it and if you're not getting to it then you probably won't be afforded the ability to stay here in the near future with that that said, thank y'all for an amazing pod. This was real, real, real, real, real, real good, man. It was. Real good. Rest in peace, Bunny Whaler too, now that you mentioned it. Yes.

Legend. Legend, legend. Bunny Whaler. Sure. Rest in peace. While we're at that, let me just make sure that my rest in pieces are finished. Let me just see here.

Vernon Jordan. Yeah. Rest in peace. I learned that from D-Nice today. That Vernon Jordan pass. Turn up Saha for me. Don't nobody know why. Don't nobody know why.

Them niggas standin' down in these streets. Don't nobody know why. Don't nobody know why. Don't nobody know why. Yo, man, keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be here Until the next time I bid you adieu Farewell, adios, arriba, derchi, hasta la vista

So long, goodbye Do remember life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last As if it's all that we have While we're at it Do remember that the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women wanna travel,

and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab a ibuprofen and enjoy your headache. Turn it inside out real quick. That's what used to be happening, man. Who knew these niggas was killers while weaffles and corned beef hash that's what used to be happening man who knew these niggas was killers while we was eating corned beef hash on the clear black night nigga just ordered the most beautiful meal at the diner yeah every time you get corned beef hash at the diner there's probably a killer around no that's a fact he was dropping off some bags on the corner he had some young he ran up on him yeah and boy did this sahai and that those brief few minutes that he spoke to us he cleared

up so much for me with his contract situation that's kind of some of the info i've been looking for from him i never heard anything about him being signed to boo akon well i always thought how kanye stepped in and tried to do something but couldn't, said, come on, we'll work, figure this out later. See, now that story is relatable, understandable. I get that now.

I didn't get it before where it looked like you just with somebody and you're repping for somebody that you signed to and even through their mistakes, you'd like, it just looks,

that makes a lot more sense. The good music thing was official. I thought Kanye stepped in i always thought that also real interesting hearing him say that my beautiful dark twisted fantasy yay was 30 million in debt yeah yeah expensive album i'm sure yeah i don't know if i said consumers view it that way we just view it like wow what a classic probably one of the best albums to come out that decade john and rihanna singing background vocals in one song. Nobody gets to how much that may have cost it.

And did he recoup? We would never ask that about nigga, don't cut this shit back on. And his other ventures outside of just that expensive album. He spent a lot of money on a lot of shit. There's a reason there was no tour on that album. How does Kanye West

do a deal with gap and not be put on the board nobody knows why he wasn't put on the board that was his speech by his mouth oh it's odd yeah it's just odd we out of here man peace out listen i was just as shocked as you more That was his beef He said he He's not on the board Of Nike I mean not Nike

Uh Adidas Gap or Adidas He's not on the board At Adidas That is Adidas At this point like Yo I know we

We gloss over it a lot here That's crazy And people are tired Of hearing my redundant Ass words That's wild That's crazy. And people are tired of hearing my redundant ass words. That's wild. That's wild. It's not a small feat.

That's fucking wild. It's not easy. That's wild. Now, he should be in a different class theoretically, but when we think of all that blacks have to accomplish to be viewed in the same light, then, I mean, it's not so shocking. But, yeah. Still wrong.

It takes a lot to, you Kanye West, we all in this room know that that's Kanye West, but I don't know who's on the board at Gap. Right. And I don't know how they feel about my beautiful dark, twisted fantasy. Right. And I don't know how they feel about my beautiful dark twisted fantasy. Like, they could be 90 years old just holding down the old nigga at Gap board vibe. Like, I don't know. They need to get out the way.

Well, that's what Dave Chappelle was saying about. Yeah, get out the way. My guy over there at Viacom and just some of the younger new people that don't know some of the old archaic ways of doing business. If y' want to say sell the same fucking polos and have your company flop cool keep these people off the board yo saturday we'll get into the nike reseller thing um i have a few thoughts on mental health that i've been dying to get out for the last few weeks that i have not. Saturday, I got that for y'all. Shout out to the Patronies, man. Subscribe to the Patreon. We're going to try a few different things,

one of which is uploading the regular pod without edits. Yeah, I'm reading the comments and shit, man. Get my props, nigga. You heard what I said. I really didn't hear. I was reading a text. Oh, you didn't. What did you say I said we uploading The regular part

To Patreon Without edits We didn't edit anything But we didn't though That was one take That was our one take That was one take Come on man

Straight through It's us It's us man We had to get into it It's us one take And he was like Yo It's us. It's us, man. We got to get into this. It's us. Don't nobody know. He's like, yo, it's us. But who are you still?

Come on, man. Listen, this is us. I don't know who they are. But this is us. Down in the streets and don't nobody know us. All right, we out of here. Y'all on the down, man. Don't nobody know us.

Don't nobody know why Don't nobody know why Y'all niggas still down in the streets Don't nobody know why