The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 424 | "The Nine"

Episode Date: March 20, 2021

On this episode: Joe, Parks, and a few Friends of the Show pay their respects to the Marvelous Marvin Hagler (11:00) and Shawn Bradley who recently suffered after a paralyzing bike accident (13:00). The guys discuss music and recap the 63rd Grammy Awards (16:10) with a debate over DaBaby’s pop star status (19:10), a review of Doja Cat’s performance (30:00), SaVon’s Justin Bieber support (36:00). Samaria Rice, mother of Tamir Rice, calls out Tamika Mallory and others of monopolizing racial injustices and using them for clout-chasing and performative purposes (48:00). The guys discuss Justin Laboy (1:11:00), new music (1:19:00), Salt bae antics (1:38:00), Rich the Kid’s LAX arrest (1:43:00), Deshaun Watson’s sexual assault allegations (2:00:00), and the Asian American hate crime murders in Atlanta (2:15:00). Saweetie’s tweets (2:23:00), Kanye West’s billionaire status (2:23:00), ‘Snow Fall’ (2:40:00), and MORE! For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks of the Episode Joe | EST Gee - “30 Bopp”   Ice | Klass Murda - “Theme Song” (Ft. Benny the Butcher)   SaVon | Justin Bieber - “Peaches” (Ft. Daniel Caesar & Giveon)    Parks | Charli Baltimore - “Stand Up” (Ft. Ghostface Killah)   Alex | Elcamino - “Valentino Quarantine”

Yeah, what is wrong with everyone? Don't have a makeup for Alex, man. I think Alex is funny, man. I know, I know. He's a fucking idiot. Alex rides for Savon. Alex really rides for Savon. That's how it's supposed to be.

And onlookers see that. Goals. That's my guy, man. These guys are relationship goals. You guys are relationship goals. That is awesome, man. Let's see, man. Y'all feeling alright? Has

everyone here signed their NDA? Everything's signed. I'm a lawyer to get mine back. When he give it back, I get it over. He told me to hold up. He told me to hold up. He told me to hold up. Alright, hold up, man. The hell is going on?

Is everybody feeling good? Yes, feeling great. You guys can talk. Let me just get this together over here, man. I wanted a real natural vibe. You know what I mean? Let me just get this together over here. We got some all natural fellas in the room here.

We here, man. I'm pretty natural. You good? Uncomfortable in the chair, but you know. That's not a comfortable chair for you? Yeah. We can switch to a different chair. I'm cool.

I'm cool. We got mad chairs, bro. I'm cool. Yeah. Don't worry about chairs. I'm doing your work. Okay. Unlimited chairs at the JBN.

Yeah. Unlimited chairs. Look at the things Savon has to dispel. We got unlimited chairs. Unlimited. Oh, my God. All right. All right.

I'm here now. All right. Mic check. Mic check. Mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic. Mic check, one, two, one, two. I just put this over there for me. Dunkin' Donuts is not paying us.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I said this your vibe? This is my start. This is my start. Very important. Don't talk overhose, okay? I didn't mean to be mean. I didn't mean to be mean, I didn't mean to be mean I don't know what came over me

I didn't mean to be mean, I have PTSD now, I don't fucking know Choo-choo-choo-choo-choo-choo Went from having shabby clothes, crossing over Abbey Road Hit my angels in the- I'm gonna stay home forever I am, I'm not gonna talk to anybody, ever again That'll show the world Me, me

See, I got demons in my past, so I got daughters on the way I'm not gonna talk to anybody ever again. That'll show the world. See, I got demons in my past, so I got daughters on the way. If the prophecy's correct, then the child should have to pay. But it seems I'm the father, so I bought her my tomorrows against my yesterdays and hoped that she'll be OK. And when I'm no longer here to shade her face from the glare, I give up my share of Carol's daughter and her new piece. I hear my angels. I believe in you. Ice, this is Jay-Z. It's called Beach Chair, man.

He went crazy when this one came out, man. This album, Savon, oh, the masses loved it. Mic check, mic check, mic check. Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two. Saturday morning, it's beautiful outside. I wake up baby free. No kid around. For a dad, that's when you feel like you about to go, oh, it's up now.

Can't relate. Same. That's just you, bro. That's all you. Can't relate. Ice is going to stop showing off to me. Because you keep showing off. Can't relate. Ice is going to stop showing off to me. Because you keep showing off. Can't relate is a good thing.

Like, you're still with your whiz. You love her. Y'all love each other. You don't have to work out anything. Shut up. My bad, bro. Now, baby free weekend is where I was. Hey.

I paid so much money. All right. Baby free weekend. I go to my homegirl house, Ash. We sit on the balcony. The sun is shining in New York. We start talking about living in New York versus living elsewhere as an entrepreneur, right? And I keep saying to Ash, for me, I think there's value in the energy of New York.

Agree. Everything that you're saying is correct about where entrepreneurs are going, where the money is going, and digital and what that's doing, and you don't have to be regional, locked in anywhere. And I get all of that, but for me, I'm old school. So if you're in New York, you have Boy Walkin' Park Place and Monopoly. Two seconds later, our homeboy Nodge comes over. He joins us.

Beautiful day. He gets to talking. He says, yo, man, I have this artist, and now it's going crazy for him. It's up. It's all the way up, up. Like, A, body supporting him. But back a few months ago, December, when I was trying to shop it around, cold. Cold out there.

I said, well, shit, we was hanging out in December. Why didn't you tell me nothing about, like, what's going on? I'm not thinking nothing of this. He says, come on, Joe. You know me, man. I'm not going to just approach niggas like, yo, I got a kid that is up with, but I'm talking to

people that are coming out to me, and I'm telling them this kid is the one one. I would let you hear something, but you got to kind of understand it. I ain't trying to push it on nobody. I said, well, where is he from? He said, Kentucky. Oh, shit. Okay.

Some talent in Kentucky. Let's go to Kentucky. There's some talent out there. Let's go to Kentucky, though. Hey, I don't know if I'm late or I'm early I don't know if I'm late or I'm early I don't know what's going on Oh no Wake up smokin', fuck they bitch and play your enemy Telling y'all a different story, we know what it really is Change these niggas lame, live with they bitch and don't take care of their kids

Hey, don't even phase me, I was trapped in getting shit I forgot to blow from the little hoe, I'm finna send him in My lil' niggas Navy Seals, I ain't need no baby deal I ain't made no money off my music, I got paper steel Why I can't quit taking pills, he's your man with mickle wheels I've niggas heard my voice and heard that noise I know it gave me chills Just a coach who play the field I motivate you just for real

Don't throw it up if you don't bang for it Game coaches started with my bloods And take the blame for it Blood damage on me, I pay pain for them Cold nights, bullseyes Don't ask me what I'm paying for That's how it are That's my kind of ignorant rap

I like that Then he starts showing me some of these other dudes Supporting him Lil baby out that's what this is this is the EST EST you familiar you know him yes I've never heard that record I'm late well that's the thing he put out Mountain December

people are hearing about him from these features Yo Gotti yeah I don't get into all of that all of that business somebody say

somebody say they got something I just start listening Yo Gotti's all in this video so I don't know he looks invested but Somebody say Somebody say they got something I just started listening Yo God he's all in this video So uh I don't know He looks invested But I'm in Kentucky with this one

We hit up I can't say I had a 10 year run Without no hiccups I can't say I had a 10 year run Without no hiccups I know what stuff like that means Y'all don't know Saban I'll explain to you

Let me get into this man We here Mike Check Mike Check 1-2-1-2 Mike Check 1-2 I know what stuff like that means. Y'all don't know. Saban, I'll explain to you. Let me get into this, man. We here, mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two, mic check. One, two. One, two. One, two. One, two. One, two.

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As dog, you gon' dog him if you do Acting smart and she's smart, baby, open up and swallow What you trying to figure out? He say it sounds like an offshoot of the Memphis kind of, you know, he say not fully Atlanta or fully Texas, something in between. It got that bounce. It got that bounce. It got that bounce.

You talking that talk. Yeah. I always find that interesting, like what people rush to when they first hear music. Do you rush to the person talking or the music and the bounce and the cadence of it all? Today, I'm beat first. Yeah, the beat. Yes, sir. Unless you can relate to it.

Sure. If they talking. Yeah, if I've related to what he was saying, then it's like, I bet. The bounce, like the way you flowing over the beat. You don't relate to it Sure If they talking Yeah if I've related To what he was saying Then it's like I bet The way you flowing over the beat You don't relate to that I can't relate to it

So I'ma go to the beat No no I'm telling you You don't relate to it You can't You was talking If I break it down, I make $6,500. He smoked that. He smoked that. So that was my first introduction to this gentleman, ESTg and yeah it's kind of crazy mic check one two one two mic check one two one two microphone check one two what is this the jbp boys bike to business what is this uh episode

424 welcome to episode 424 i hope this mic sounds right i'm hearing something funny in the mic welcome to episode 424 of the joe button podcast i'm your humble gracious grateful and highly favorite host joe button here with a few of my nearest yeah some of y'all is just cool we got erab over here parks is here savon is here ice is here cory is here and alex is here. Corey is here. And Alex is here. Maul and Rory are on vacation. They are home chilling. Maybe Savon will check on them shortly. I got you. We will see. We'll see how we feel about that.

But hopefully everybody as well. In the meantime, how are you guys doing? I'm great. Well, blessed. Doing all right. That cold smacked the shit out of me when I walked outside. But other than that, I'm good. Today?

Yeah for sure today That's privilege That's New York privilege It's not that bad I went to the video store But we were spoiled I went to the cafe Without a jacket on And I looked at you

Like you was crazy While I had my North Face on Like yeah It was cold It's cold today White people operate Differently in the cold That's the first thing

I said when I saw Parks With a t-shirt on outside. I said, damn, he's really white boy right now. I'm with you. I don't think it's that bad out here. New York is beautiful. There's no snow. There's no rain.

It's a vibe out here. Things are about to open up. They've changed the capacity rules for restaurants, weddings, receptions, all things of that nature. Broadway is still closed. Shit feels right out there. I got my first shot, man. Hey, shout right out there. I got my first shot, man. Hey, shout out to you. I got my first shot.

How you feeling? I feel great, man. First couple days, my arm felt like I got hit with a baseball bat or something, but other than that, I'm cool. Yeah, I look a little off. I don't know.

Tell me about the experience. Where did you go? Was it difficult? We went to, I forgot what the place was called. Rem had to get it for work so uh she she worked that out and then it turned out her uncle was kind of running the place so he was like yo you can bring people they have like a list i guess if you work there so we got a list me and

me and brian who painted the paintings in the back and we went and got got some vaxes johnson and johnson uh moderna moderna two shots one yeah okay all right and and um and ice before we started Johnson? Moderna. Moderna. Johnson's just one. Okay, alright. And Ice, before we started recording, was talking about the vaccination process and how he's excited to go get it. Yeah, man, I'm trying to be big vaxxed. Trying to be big vaxxed.

I'm not eligible in Jersey for another 10 days. So, I gotta wait till the 29th. You're not like an essential worker? No. Oh. Well, yeah, but not in, not, it's just tiers of essential workers.

So no. So you're not essential? You're not essential. So no, you kind of essential. Yeah, yes, I'm essential. Barely essential. Okay. So does anyone want to talk about,

rest in peace Marvin Hagler, first and foremost. That was disturbing, but even more so was the report that he died over vaccination complications. Oh, is that so? Damn. That's what it said. And I didn't see many reports on it. Was that official or was that like a YouTube report?

I didn't get that from YouTube. Well, his wife is talking on the New York Post. Oh, okay. Saying? She said that he didn't die after the COVID-19 vaccine. Well, there you go. And that's his wife. Ah, damn it. Sorry, anti-vaxxers. I thought we had a conspiracy theory.

Ah, damn it. Incredible source, too. Fine. Sorry, Joe. I think you can take her word for that Alright fine Rest in peace to Marvin Hagler What else What else is going on Real quick

Sean Bradley Not rest in peace But just tragedy While he was there I don't like that So many people Thought of me During that news break

I thought of you I definitely That's just foolishness I thought of you I'm not Sean Bradley I'm not i'm not i'm not i'm telling you guys i'm not um what happened with our sean bradley uh bike accident paralyzed oh my god yeah tragic horrible story yeah it is part of the reason why i'm petrified of bikes bikes if i'm being honest like Not because the bike is so scary

even though to me it is. Maybe I'm a chump. I don't feel like people on the road respect the bikers. If I'm in a vehicle I might not really respect the guy that's on the side of me with a helmet. And that could be catastrophic.

I'm thinking a bike like a motorcycle. No. I took a bad spill on a bike once and that's why I'm thinking a bike, like a motorcycle. No. Bicycle. Yeah. I took a bad spill on a bike once, and that's why I'm terrified of bikes. Any 7'6". What kind of childhood did y'all have? Y'all didn't ride bikes? No, I rode bikes a lot.

I was probably 22, 23. I was living in Chicago, and I had a shirt around my neck because it was the summer, and it fell into the wheel, and I went face first into the pavement, lost a couple teeth. Wow. Damn. Yeah. So ever since then so i have not ridden a bike were you this tall when it happened oh i was okay uh this was probably 2007 not that

long ago i'm not mad at a bicycle i'm not talking about a bicycle as far as a motorcycle i know too many people that fell and landed underneath the muffler of a car and then was right back on the bike a few months later. I'm not that brave. I've always wanted a motorcycle too, but yeah. I actually have plans this summer to buy a motorcycle, but I'm not getting a sport bike. I'm getting a cruiser.

I can't do a sport bike because I know me. The Dash say 200. I'm going to try to see as close as I can get to that 200. You have a new baby. Exactly. That's why I wasn't doing it. That's why I wasn't doing it. What are you talking about?

That's why I was not going to get a sport bike. I did the Rebels a lot this summer. That was fun. Because they only go about 25 miles an hour. So that's cool. I'd get a slingshot though. What's that? Which is classified as a bike,

but it's not. Listen, I am not letting Parks and Ice geek me out this entire episode. Get ready, brother. Because Maul and Rory are not here. You two are into all of this gadget, wiry, in-aux output. Aux cords? Whatever you guys.

Thunderbolt. Yeah, I don't want to hear any of that geeky shit. We're not auxing nothing. It's all max. I don't want to hear any of that I was glad that we took off and shout out to Cash App the app that sponsors us powers us, empowers us, tolerates us puts up with our bullshit, greatest app in the world shout out to y'all

we took off last week and I was happy about that because I didn't have to come in here and discuss the grannies for a few years I've been saying podcasters have to get with the idea that you got to come in here and talk at a time where maybe you just not ready to talk about shit maybe it's cool to shut the fuck up not share your opinion just think something foul about somebody that somebody else don't have to know so the grammys happened and we didn't record and i was thrilled about that aspect you like the grams i loved the grammys me too i thought it was great me too

really really really entertaining but i had a lot of truthful takes and opinions about what was going on and i didn't want to come in here and have to tell the truth about some of the stuff that I observed. Y'all love the Grammys because I... You didn't like the show? You're a hater. Wait, what are we talking about? The Grammys. This year. He said the show. The show this year. Are you talking about the performances or the awards?

Because that's part of the show. That's all the show. That's all the show. I didn't enjoy the Grammys then. Damn. You didn't enjoy the show. This is what happens. No, I did not enjoy the- He's about to sit here and tell the truth about things. Okay.

I did not enjoy the Rock Nation show. No, I did not. God, please. Rock Nation got some of the best artists, though. What's not to enjoy? Most of the artists. Like, what's not to enjoy about it? You're telling me that Meg Thee Stallion wins every award that she was nominated in?

Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Why? Because she's Meg. So it's not because of the people that showed up right when Beyonce gets ready to win the

tying and record-breaking award and the camera stays on them the entire time. It has nothing to do with them, right? I didn't even correlate those two things. Okay. I did. I correlate those two things. Okay. I did. I saw it. I saw it. I ain't stupid. Y'all can pull a wool over everybody else's eyes. We know what y'all did. I'm coming in here to say how phony I am.

We knew that, though. Yeah. We knew that. Really? I thought I was keeping it a secret all this time. I'm coming in here. And listen, these Grammy Awards made me come face to face with my phoniness, man. Finally. So let's unpack it all.

Let's do it. Let's unpack it all. I got some interesting takes here. Okay. I loved the Gramm grammys what a show what a display of black excellence i love the awards i love the performances i loved all the people i hated i love the labels i love payola that was dead yo i love love teams moving their weight around to get all of their artists nominated and winning. And performing.

Are you kidding me? And performing. So, let's get into how phony I am. And let's start with DaBaby. Okay. DaBaby. Oh, he started the show. DaBaby's a pop star.

He is. He is. We can put that to star hey we can put that to bed i would have never argued that because who knows but i heard his i heard his feature on the dualipa record and he says yeah we're pop stars and the s was plural that put that one to bed which roar is here so I can tell them the baby's a pop star if you didn't know now you know look at the Grammys

what the Grammys is and I feel bad for all of the other artists I feel bad for the other artists at the labels because what the Grammys is is a reminder as to who keeps the lights on at the labels it what the Grammys is is a reminder as to who keeps the lights on at the labels it is a stark reminder of who the label deems as important and how much is into them I normally hate all of those people whoever the label is really into I don't know about

that's not how I bump into my music. That's not who I champion and support because that's not how I'm built. But on this night. You're feeling it. Would a baby kill somebody? Yeah, I think they did it right, though. Word. I'm just walking you through my train of thought this night.

The Grammys opened up. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. I got it. I got it. I got it.

With a killer. With a killer. With a guy. With a guy who is self-defense. When you challenged him in his- Self-defensor. Yes. But wait, wait, wait.

See, killer just comes with such a negative connotation. I know. He's a self-defender. Yeah. Yeah. We never said whether he was justified or not. Hey, they ran up on him and his family and he did what he had to do.

Right. And that was years ago and the law has not made this a thing. He's vindicated in that fact. And now he's opening the Grammys with two elderly white people dancing behind him. He had a squad.

Yeah, nah, he did it. He did everything he was supposed to do. He set up the fake Grammys for his daughter to walk the red carpet. He showed up, killed the awards. I don't like how they didn't give Anthony Hamilton any

screen time. I was like, is that Anthony Hamilton? Sounds like Anthony Hamilton. They never showed him. And at the end, they're like, oh, Anthony Hamilton. Give the guy some shine, man. Shout out Anthony Hamilton. But the Grammys opened up for me with a killer. Strong. A self-defender. With a self-defender.

I think a killer is somebody who goes to look to kill. He kills because somebody wants to go kill him. Oh my god. Where's the guy? You kill, the guy? I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. You're a millennial take on it.

I'm not doing that. You know what I'm saying? Wait, what the hell? Tell him, tell him, T-Bone. Let's hear it. Because when you call somebody a killer,

you put something on their name. And I don't want to put anything on his name. That's what I'm putting on your name. Because he didn't go out and look to kill somebody.

Somebody came for him and he did what he had to do. So I don't want to just call him a killer. Technically, yeah, he's a killer. But he's not somebody going out looking to kill people. Is Gucci Mane a killer? He killed somebody as well in self-defense. Is he a killer?

He's a self-defender? He's killed somebody, yes. I'm not calling somebody a killer. I think a killer comes with a certain intent. They didn't have the intention. They had the intention to defend themselves. Maybe that's a murder. Yo, what the hell is Sig. Vaughn saying over there?

That's right, man. You know, first degree murder has to have intent and act. So maybe that's a murderer you're thinking of, not a killer. Maybe. I just don't like the connotation of it. That's for me. Just like for you, that's for me. I'm not going to say, hey, a killer opened up the Grammys.

Nah. Somebody came for him and he did what he had to do. And he killed them. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. I'm just going to let you go Grammy's. Nah. Somebody came for him and he did what he had to do. And he killed them. Absolutely. But my argument, I agree with you when I'm making my argument to a significant other. Hey, some lies is good.

You can't bunch all liars together. I mean the best for you when I be lying. I'm lying to you for you. Really? Yeah. So I support you in that.

Thank you. But anyway, the Grammys opened with someone who's a self-defender. Yeah. And he is the priority at the label.

And that brought a smile to my face. Then he left, changed clothes, came back, Dua Lipa. He's on a pop record now. He was all over the place.

Mad jewelry. He looked great. Melanated skin glistening off the fucking screen I love that and then I was reminded holy shit this is CBS this is CBS oh shit it's lit so that started. I started with, oh, look at what hip hop is doing. I see this. I see this. I see this. Yeah.

Every performer they brought out, I loved most of them. I only turned when Taylor Swift came out, because that's not my bad. Yeah. Same. But then I went back. I wasn't even mad how they started the country set with a black woman singing about being black in America in a country format. I was like,

okay, that's a nice way to make someone like me who's never going to listen to the country set listen to the country set for a minute. They remember the

backlash about, you know, the white boys with the torches. So they like, all right, listen, we're going to make sure,

you know, you call it pandering, catering, whatever. We're going to make sure we keep certain folk happy this time. We're going to, you know, this is their attempt catering whatever we're gonna make sure we keep certain folk happy this time we're gonna you know this is their attempt at doing it right so so the Grammys the report came out that the ratings were down by 10 million right but for me another reason why I

enjoyed the Grammys was this small little tidbit here and And I have no facts. This appeared to be a stick-up on numerous fronts. Stick-up season is in effect. It's a pandemic. It's quarantine. The contracts we thought we had to deliver on networks, some of them flaked. We can't promise how to drive ratings in certain blocks.

For me, CBS has a stick up here. I don't know that CBS wants to show Meg and Cardi grinding on each other. But I think that in a pandemic, Absolutely. with whoever handles the Grammy contract

saying, yo, dog, this is what's getting it done this year. Sorry. And this is going to be everywhere. I think CBS is up against a little wall. I don't know that, but it appeared that way. I also think that the performers and the winners were able to negotiate differently than they've been able to in the past

with the Grammys and the Grammy board. You think they gave them the, yeah, we'll pull up if you give us one? negotiate differently than they've been able to in the past with the Grammys and the Grammy board. You think they gave them the, yeah, we'll pull up if you give us one? Jay boycotted the Grammys. I know. Word. And in case you thought that boycott disappeared, Jay wore black jeans and a black hoodie and a black long coat

and told his hairstylist to do the Bob Marley look in his hair. There's a Basquiat look. Whatever it is. Whatever it is. There's a Bosco. Yeah. Whatever it is, whatever it is, it's something symbolic of something good. That's the beacon of hope. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's one of them dudes. Yo, he doing that. Some nigga had that shit. That's how you got to show up when you say you don't care though. He took the picture with his wife. His wife was in all black. Mm-hmm black I love that

they hugged up they hey those things I love that those things are symbolic that's a statement those things are symbolic

of something to Joe so I'm championing this so far so if you think that I don't think that Roc Nation or somebody

got on the phone with the Grammy board and said this is how this is gonna go absolutely Meg is winning everything yeah or else Rock Nation or somebody got on the phone with the Grammy board and said, this is how this is going to go. Absolutely. Meg is winning everything. Yeah. Or else. Beyonce will walk up there with her and say

a few words. And she's going to become the biggest Grammy winner of all time. And she's going to break the record. Set and break the record. We also going to give her the... Nobody ever heard. That was him. I said that. Not Joe. Not Joe. What is this? Something that we've developed on this not Joe I had to go work that record up what the fuck what is this

something that we've developed on this podcast is learning when to massage our relationships I would never say such a thing but Ice did the views of Ice

are only from Ice listen she won the award if you're asking me I think conversations were had like that's what I think and that

being said savage was one of the biggest songs of last year so she deserves every interview it's not like it was a reach giving her uh her and beyonce a million awards for well one of the biggest songs of last year to me and to me only it's a reach when the grammys get it right oh fair it's like naz winning this year to me is back to the stick up. Congratulations to Nas. You're fucking right. Congratulations to Nas. Yes, congratulations to Nas.

He earned that. I thought it was album of the year. Freddie Gibbs tweeted, I rap better when I'm angry. I wanted to hit him back and say, what you angry about? That's good that you rap better when you're angry. But what are you angry about?

Go listen to Nas album. It's still a win, though. To be nominated. It's a win for Royce. It's a win for everybody that was nominated. And congrats to a lot. I have my own thoughts about the entire group that's nominated. But again, I'm happy Nas won.

Out of who was up there. Of course we want to see Royce get it. Yeah, but. You hating on D Smoke? but we want to see I don't know who that is yo we gotta stop doing that too I like D Smoke

I like D Smoke we be killing him on his part and I like D Smoke I like D Smoke I don't know who that is that album wasn't a big enough album in my opinion to be Grammy nominated what record?

like I'm not trying to be funny I've never heard of D Smoke I've seen the name I don't know he was on the Netflix show with Cardi. But that's not music. I know. What's the song?

I see why you didn't start a podcast. That's not a shot. No, no, that's not a shot. That's not a shot. Never heard of him. It's definitely a shot. I don't know your music. It's a shot.

I don't know your music. That's a shot. And he knows music, so it might be a shot. That's a shot. But I thought, but no. Deesmoke. Deesmoke. Someone could say, I only know more popular music.

D Smoke is Sir's brother. They're twins. D Smoke raps. He won the Netflix show. Sir sings. He's on TV. They just look like twins. I know, sir.

They look like twins. They look like twins. Okay. I don't think they're actually twins. I just never knew the rest. I can't explain further, but I like D Smoke. D Smoke is really dope. Nas winning for me was the grammy's

attempt at saying hey we're gonna do some things correctly i see one as well for uh best heavy metal band uh body count so congratulations though g that was in this one yeah oh shit yeah congratulations man a lot of this stuff was the pre... Did you guys watch the pre-show, too, where they just quickly ran down? No, I'm not elusively. I watched the pre-show. We had the Grammys Twitter. No, I wasn't. That's what I did.

It was just... I didn't have to watch that. Joe, you wasn't feeling the pre-show? Nobody watched the pre-show. You wasn't feeling the pre-show? I was busy at 6.45. When does that come on? It was early. What did Terrence J do? No, it was J'Nai. When does that come on? It was early.

What did Terrence J do? No, it was Jenea. Jenea was the host. Don't do that. I fuck with Terrence J, Alex. Don't do that. That's my guy, too. It was Jenea that was host.

No, you had Alex's man. I don't understand why they can't put some of that stuff on the actual award show. Because they were just going through the list like, yo, Nas won. Yo, Ice-T won. Yo, you can do that in the main show. That was coming out on tweets. I was like Oh shit Okay

Oh this is one Alright cool That shit was just Back to back Yeah You could do that I love this Doja Cat girl I do

Yeah I love Bitch I'm a cat I told everybody She was dope Y'all can miss me with that Yo we canceling Doja Cat That ain't happening But I didn't know

So when they said that I was one of the guys To cancel her I went and saw The little tiny chat thing Where she may have been Offensive and with some KKK racist people. Yeah, she was showing feet in the chat room. But I wasn't fucking with her because her entryway to this thing was bitch on my cap.

Which is a certified classic record. Certified. I played it Christmas every year. Moo. She's a performer, too. She's a performer. She is. She's a performer, too. She's a performer. She is. She's good in front of the camera.

All right, all right. Her entry record kind of dictates the way that you got to do some gimmicky shit to get on, trick the people to follow you, and then show them your talent. That's been happening. She's the first person to do that. She's done it in a more funny way to me than most people do. I can name a couple of other artists that have done that and been super successful with gimmicky shit from the rip. And then once I get you wheeled in, now it's, hey, look.

Now I'm actually dope. Yo, I'm actually dope. I can rap. I got talent. I got this. Bitch, I'm a cow. But even the baby. The baby walking around in a pamper.

That's why I did shit in the video. You're not a cow. It worked. It worked. It worked, right, Joe? It worked. The baby walking around in a pamper. Right.

Like, that's a gimmick. That's a gimmick. Say, Vaughn, you're an idiot because babies walk around in pampers. He's a grown man. That made sense. According to you, he's a killer. A grown man that's a killer. A self-defender.

But in their definition, a killer walking around in a pamper is a gimmick. But so listen, so this is where I was faced with my own contradiction. And I do believe that humans are just walking contradictions. Of course. Everyone's a hypocrite. Doja Cat comes out. I was a little finicky because y'all told me to cancel it. Cool.

I'm phony. I thought she killed her performances. I thought she looked thick in a little robot outfit. I was like, oh, what a hot robot. What a hot bot. She got it. A hot bot. I was like, oh, what a hot robot. What a hot bot. She got it. A hot bot. She got it, bro.

I didn't know. I didn't tell her she had a fatty back there. That's for me to know. For you to find out. For me to know and for you to find out, dog. So listen, so I'm like, oh, I don't know if I'm going to commit. And then an hour later, I'm sitting there watching with Corey. And who strolls out?

You guessed it. Post below. I start going crazy. And an hour later, I'm sitting there watching with Corey. And who strolls out? You guessed it. Post Malone. I start going crazy. Listen, I don't care if y'all laugh at me. Joe goes crazy when Post Malone comes out. He's dope. That's nasty, though.

Have you ever heard Hollywood's Bleeding? Yes. For sure. He did it that night. Have you ever played in Hollywood? No, no. I've never played in Hollywood. Sorry. I didn't he did it that night have you ever played in Hollywood nah never played in Hollywood sorry and he didn't get there with it but Post Malone

I apologize same way as Doja Cat I wrote him off I didn't like that White Iris I didn't do that White Iris and stuff that was the reason

why I didn't like him and not even that the song was bad everybody know I'm an Iverson fan you're the biggest Iverson fan in the world do you have an Iverson tattoo when I met you you was wearing an Iverson fan. You're the biggest Iverson fan in the world. Do you have an Iverson tattoo?

When I met you, you was wearing an Iverson jersey. I was like, damn, bro, it's 2020. I got six or seven pair of Iverson sneakers right now. I'm always with the Iverson jersey. And then somebody photoshopped a Post Malone vid of him saying the N-word. Ooh. Photoshops? Yeah.

He photoshopped a video? It was a deep fake? I don't think it was him, but I sat with how phony I am, like, damn, why do I accept Post Malone this way and nobody else? Justin Bieber?

I pushed Biebs through the, pushed him through the ringer. He dropped some shit today. Yeah, I'm going to challenge you on that. I'm going to challenge you on that. You get there, I'm defending the Biebs, bro. Are you? Well, I'll defend him too now that he there, I'm defending the Beavs, bro. He pushed the plate, too.

Well, I'll defend him, too, now that he dropped some heat. He's been dropping heat, though. No, he's been dropping heat. Not like this. No. He's been dropping heat. Okay. Hold on.

Let's stick to this bullshit that he's saying. When we get to music, I'm going to hold your feet to the fire a little bit, yo. Because I've been sitting on the sideline, and I don't really like the energy you bring to Justin Bieber because you hold him accountable for some shit he did when he was young but I think he's one of the very few and we talk about pop stars he's one of the few pop stars that are trying to get it right and he's actively doing it like your man Post Malone cool all these allegations whatever I'm just saying what do you mean all these? It's not all these. Culture Vulture. People have called him a Culture Vulture. And he's never, but he's never defended it.

He kind of leans into, hey, I'm a rock star. Fuck hip hop. All of this shit. He doesn't make hip hop music. Yeah, he's not a rapper. Let me reply because I'm here with my cape to defend Post Malone. I'm with you on that too, by the way. How is he a Culture Vulture?

He don't rap. He don't make music for this culture. He ain't trying to make hip hop music. He ain't trying to make hip-hop music. He ain't trying to make nothing that appeals to you. Even the White Iris in White Girl. Was White Iris in hip-hop? I don't think it really was. It was sing-songy, vibey.

Fan, fan, fan. He's up here dressed as the Undertaker. People that look like they're going to take your life all around him. And he's singing. Wait, wait, wait. Hold up. This is my real thing. And he's really singing unlike that Silk Sonic. Don't do that.

We're not doing that, bro. We're not doing that. Now you go. Now you bugging. Real quick, real quick. We're not about to do that. Out of the group, which one are you talking about? Soxonic is two.

So out of the group, which one is your favorite? It don't matter who you're talking about. It does matter. It don't matter. It matters. No, it don't. For me, it matters. I'm a provocateur. What's the word for it I'm doing?

Provocateur. I'm an antagonizer. We're not getting that. A bender of truth. No, we're not doing that. We're not doing that with Real Moss. Yeah, we're not doing that.'re not doing that we're not doing that let me get back to

come on slow down we speeding let me get back to Savon's point the Biebs the Biebs I forgive people when it seems like

they're apologetic one I didn't really like his apology about the shit and he harmonized I hated that he harmonized nigger and I didn't like

his apology about it well he harmonized it and it was fire first off but nah my boy he wasized it and it was fire. First off. Nah, my boy. He was getting it off. In my opinion, he was getting it off. But it's outside of him harmonizing it.

I don't think you know good harmonies. Can we mute his mic? Can that be a thing? Say one, you can't say that as a black man in America that he was getting it off. He got it off because he was harming the boys You said the harm I'm just talking about the harmony

Fuck what he said No I'm not a fan of what he said I'm not a fan of what he said And like I said We going backwards bro I gotta hit this You gotta look at the person

For what he's trying to do today Like if you go on his He's one of the few pop stars That's speaking out On a lot of the issues That people don't do. Oh, you're a believer. I'm a believer.

I'm a believer. I took your shit. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer.

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I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I pop stars all the time for taking the sound taking the vibes of the culture and he's been accused of

that am i right he's done it it ain't even been accused he's still doing it but he's the you never stop doing it ever but he's in the minority of saying hey no he's white he's a majority okay he's a majority in that sense but he speaks to it and he says like yo that shit ain't right or this black and white shit like he speaks to some black he says like yo this shit ain't right this black and white shit like he speaks to some of the Black Lives Matter movement the Breonna Taylor stuff

like I followed him and they go on social media and I see it oh you believe the poem yeah yeah yeah you invite them to the

to the cookout I'm not bro oh you believe the poem he wrote yeah that's what I was there it's the actions too though hello to the blacks so what actions I didn the blacks I didn't mean

to attack what I said was whack and as a matter of fact you fell for that? you still listen to Sabrina Claudio right? yes I do

okay and I fuck her yeah that's the reason why I'm listening to her to be honest with you I'm joking I'm joking I am joking I'm joking but what's your point? give. I'm joking. I'm joking. I am joking. I'm joking,

but what's your point? Give it to me. But nah, she did a similar thing. Some racist shit. She has never harmonized, nigga. You don't know what she does.

I'm not to her knowledge. Well, I've never heard it. But we've seen what she's done on social media speaking to black women. Right. And now, you still listen to her music.

You champion whatever you champion. Like, you just gotta keep that same energy, in my opinion. Just because he's a little bit bigger and just because you don't like the word, the way that it happened, it's still the same offense. Racism is racism. But if you, I haven't heard a word from her. Have you heard from Sabrina Claudio? Yeah, I play it every morning in the shower.

Take care of me. She did the Instagram notes apology yeah she apologized okay and then the silence after that what was she supposed to do when Breonna Taylor

gets killed or when anybody when there's a travesty in the black community you don't hear her you don't hear a lot of these people that's all I'm saying

like don't pick and choose shut up okay so he's been he's been using this platform shut up for the fight. But whether you believe him or not, the platform is being used.

It's being used. I get what he's saying. That's all I'm saying. He's using the platform for the fight. Can he stop doing it? Can he still say it? I'm trying to get him. Are you giving him the pass to still say it because he uses the platform?

Say what? Nigga. No, never that. I'm not giving him a pass for saying this shit. Yeah. I'm not giving get him Are you giving him the pass To still say it Because he uses the platform Say what Nigga No never that I'm not giving him a pass For saying this shit Yeah I'm not giving him a pass I'm just asking you

So if he said it again I'm not giving him a pass for it Anyway he dropped some heat He dropped some heat He dropped some heat man Like and I've been Sitting on the sideline Listening

You're on Justin Bieber Wait wait time out Time out Time out You gave me a mic Yeah time out Say Vaughn time out. You gave me a mic? Yeah, time out. Savon, I apologize. It may be my PTSD, but you keep saying I've been sitting on the sidelines, and it's triggering me.

Are you unhappy? Have you been unhappy on the sidelines? I'm good on the sidelines. Whoa. I'm good on the... I'm straight. Hey, listen, we don't have to debate this because this is what I thought for two seconds when I was watching the Grammys and I didn't want to tell anybody.

It was damn, some of these people I've been killing for saying the N-word, they love us. They love us. They just wanted some attention, needed to figure out a way in and then apologized. It's the same shit these clothing brands do. Biebs, Doja. Gucci make the mask and those beefs are Mitch Amical.

That was not his Mitch Amical. I gotta get the light on this so let me do something. A lot of people, let's keep this moving, a lot of people laughed at me for my Silk Sonic take

about them being too perfect. And then they performed. It was perfect. Somebody talk to me. It was perfect. Somebody talk to me. Hey, those my guys And it was perfect. Give it. Yeah. Somebody talk to me. It was perfect. Somebody talk to me. Hey, those my guys. It was perfect.

That shit was perfect. That song is beautiful. That song is song of the year probably so far. That performance was perfect. Y'all niggas is too perfect. Y'all need to go find mistakes. Fuck up every once in a while. There's beauty in the mistakes.

What I don't like about So Sonic, they too talented to do the bullshit they was doing on Twitter. Oh, I hated that. Oh my God. It's disgusting. And it goes back to the I'm a cow shit. Leave that for the people.

Well, tell the people what you're talking about. What were they doing on Twitter? The fake, they didn't. Fake rollout? Yeah, it was a rollout. No, it was a real rollout but they beefing with each other on Twitter

then the Grammys jump in hey you know we agreed to have you guys perform just fake arguing with each other on Twitter to get people talking about you we talked to Kai when Kai was called last week that's so corny I don't want to see super

talented people resort to those tactics. Leave that for the people who I got to find you. Bruno Mars can drop anything without a word. We're going to run and listen to it. You don't have to trick us with this rollout shit on the internet. For a live performance at that. Well, I'm going to push back on that. Bruno Mars can drop anything he wants whenever he wants because the name bruno

mars comes with whatever the credit check is that comes with that um if bruno mars if you call best buy and say hey bruno mars is dropping they're going to order a lot yeah if you say silk sonic is dropping they don't have any credit report anywhere. We don't know what that means. Even when you say it's Anderson Pack and Bruno Mars, we still don't know how it will perform. And from the label standpoint, we need this to perform like this and we still need Bruno to drop

and perform like that. That's why we're doing this. It's just whack though. It's just whack. Come up with something else. That's whack. That was whack. That's all.

That's all to me. I watched that. I got this. I was disgusted, bro. They're going against. Let's talk about the people that performed at the Grammys. We talked about DaBaby. He's a star. I like their other performers, too, by the way.

Chuck Berry. Or was it Chuck? No, Little Richard tribute. That was dope, too. Megan Carty, stars. Taylor Swift, Swift star Lil Baby star also back to my DaBaby

point when Lil Baby comes out and kills his performance I say wow great that he's at the top of music also somebody who I deem to blow your fucking brains out if the situation ever presented itself i like this i'm getting too many stories it's been too many horror stories over the year past two years of our favorite rappers that are believable dying right or getting shot or going to jail

we're not really singing the praises of some of the people that are sitting at the top of music last decade when it was drake cole and kendrick at the top us lyricists were saying yo look at the people at the top lyricists are in lyricists are back those are the people at the top this decade it looks like the streets are at the top the streets are at the top trenches as they love to call it you know same thing but the new word for it is the trenches little baby the baby shit

Jenea Jenea came out like look more gangsters yeah it's nothing but a gangsta party Roddy give it to me I enjoyed the stick up I enjoyed the politics

that a lot of people were laughing at it was funny to me but congratulations to Roc Nation as a whole, congratulations to Meg she worked congratulations to Naj congratulations to Bad Bunny when I say the Roc Nation point it's still a congratulations to them to even be able

to be in that position to do that. Sure. You know what I'm saying? We couldn't do that before. Like, yo, check this out, man. My people winning. We ain't showing up. Right.

So just to be able to be in that position, that's fire. Yeah. I love that. So I'm not going to be a hater. I still just, you know, I don't like it. I love that my son snuck his way up there. Did he? I didn't see that.

During the Lil Baby performance. He had the camouflaged shirt on with a mask on in the back with his fist in the air. Okay. I didn't see it. I like Killer Mike's verse. Yeah. That was dope. That performance was just powerful, man.

That took me back to the Kendrick performance a couple years back. Yeah. And for Lil Baby to be in that position, top of the game, like you said, the streets, all the youngins rock with him. To do that on that platform, salute. So my thing is, how could you watch the Grammys and see where hip hop is right now and really be angered by it? You got to support every one of those acts, what they stand for, what they're doing. I loved the more intimate setting at the Grammys where it wasn't nine million people, red carpet cameras everywhere. I loved, hey, only the people we need to be here are here.

That little kickflip after he threw the Molotov cocktail was hilarious. He did like a windmill kick after he threw the Molotov. Anyway. Nah, I thought it was cool seeing because if you remember, Lil Baby said he was off of this kind of movement. He didn't want to be known as the new wave activist

rapper. Yeah, he said he wasn't doing it. He said, I'm not doing any more records like this. This was a one and done for me. And to see him get on the Grammys almost a year later, because this came out almost a year ago. And to see him get on the Grammys on one of the biggest stages and do what he did, that's a performance. We know Lil Baby. He's going to rap. He's going to give you the melodies.

He's going to do that. But he got up there and he performed a record that he said he wasn't going to touch too much. Yeah, yeah. It was a one and done for. So I like seeing that a lot. I like everybody he brought on stage.

Shout out to Tameka Mallory too for the poem thing that she dropped in there. Yeah, I see social media trying to cancel her a couple days ago. For real? I'm not rolling.

Tell me what y'all think of that. I'm just not rolling. They tried to cancel who? They've been basically saying that she's like, what is it? Performative? Yeah. The same thing I've seen people accuse Sean King of is just coming in and trying to take over. I think they accused Sean King of something different.

But it's not just they. This was Tamir Rice's mom, if I'm correct. Okay, see, I didn't know it started from there. I just saw it on my timeline. I said, oh, y'all are finally telling the truth about her. And I'm like... It was a lot on her and Black Lives Matter, their organization, not the cause.

I don't know enough about what she does outside of the speeches and performances that she's done, so I can't speak to none of that. But when she speaks, it's usually profound and impactful. And, and some of us do believe that all of these causes are near and dear to her heart. That's where the confusion comes in.

It's like, she ain't, she's never come off as a bandwagon or somebody that's gotten on the trendy politics saying, Hey, this is profitable. So this is where I'm at now. No,

she's been on this. Yeah. And I don't know what she did before. Yeah've known you like yeah and i i think that's a lot of things i mean i think that's something that a lot of people also have a problem with i didn't know you before this so because you're now jump you jumped out in the forefront you know you you screaming it at the top of your lungs and you you've become sort of a face of it now. You don't deserve that because who were you before this? So it almost comes off as ingenuine, but I disagree with that.

I disagree with that entirely, too. I think as many people as we can get out there fighting and saying, you know, bringing attention to something, welcome them in. Exactly. There's no time to be sitting there saying, oh, yo, you wasn't with us seven years ago, so your voice, your opinion, your voice, your stance doesn't matter now. Like, nah, man, we need everybody on board. They ain't no time to pick and choose. I feel like they throw the performative label on things sometimes, and it's like, sometimes it's okay to be,

it's not okay to be performative in the actual definition of it, but like, she's a performer, she does vocal performances, like, I don't care maybe what she's doing otherwise. If she's adding to the cause, that's a positive thing. She's continuing the conversation. You know what I'm saying? She's bringing more attention to something that needs a lot of attention. So it don't matter what you've done before that.

If you're using or built a platform to bring attention to this, then we need everybody looking at it. And if you don't want to, you know, you can't hate that. It wasn't just her that was called out. They called out Benjamin Crump, the attorney. A few people that are just involved in some of the more high-profile cases

that hit the news. Is there anything factual or substantial to warrant a cancellation of her? Not that I've seen. If I lost a child, it doesn't need to be for me. And I'm agreeing with everything y'all saying, but it's just crazy to me because you're not going to know somebody until you know them. We didn't know her because it wasn't called for at the time.

None of that matters if I lost a child. To me. If I lost my child, it's not about logic. It's not about what's justifiable, understandable, where you've been, your reputation, how this affects things, the people you are lobbying together. I lost my child. I lost my child. Nothing that's happening out there

can bring my child back. Just the mere utterance of the name brings me back to a dark place. So it's cool. Perspective is important. While y'all out there championing, championing, championing,

when I hear any of that, I get brought to a dark place. Maybe it's best for me if I don't ever get to hear that. Got it. Right, right. I get that. And when you say you lost a child,

you're speaking to Samira Rice, the mother of Samira Rice, right? Yes. Okay. Official statement from Samira Rice, mother of Tamir Rice and Lisa Simpson, mother of Richard Risher. Tamika Mallory, Sean King, Benjamin Crump, Lee Merritt, Patrice Cullors. It's a long list of names. Malina Abdullah and the Black Lives Matter Global Network need to step down, stand back and stop monopolizing and capitalizing our fight for justice and human rights. We never hired them to be representatives in this fight for justice, fight for justice for our dead loved ones murdered by the police. The activists have have events in our cities and have not given us anything substantial for using our loved ones images and names on their flyers. The attorneys in our fight are also misleading the impacted families.

In the case of Tamir Rice, it was even questionable as to whether Benjamin Crump knew the laws in depth. I don't want to read this because it's messy. But you can see the vibe of where that's going. I have my thoughts on it. For sure.

Because I've never lost a child so I can't speak from that perspective but when it says that you've never had a child I've never had a child I've never had a child

I can't speak to being a parent you can't speak to that one either I can't speak to even being a parent but I can imagine no you can't no no yeah you can't

y'all didn't even let me finish go ahead I'm not saying I can imagine losing a child I'm not saying that can imagine losing a child. I'm not saying that. I can imagine wanting somebody to bring light to a situation that maybe I feel needs to be brought light to. So if, let's say, I lose a dog. If I lose a dog and my neighbor is helping me plaster the message of, i lost whatever i lost this wouldn't that be

not enough but wouldn't that help is that not that that doesn't to me it doesn't seem like it's a hindrance it sounds like the concern is that they're taking money and not giving any back to so it sounds like money let me respond and likeness that would that would that would help if me the person that lost a child feels that that's helpful got it yeah that's the perspective thing because when you hear it from the parent's standpoint you go, alright, if you're not informing me about what's actually happening on a day-to-day thing, I'm cool.

Yeah, if I don't feel it's helpful, then it's harmful and it's hurtful. Got it. And then to see you profiting off of it makes it worse. Yeah, that should be my decision to make. And maybe she don't want her son's name attached to anything. Okay, that's a different conversation.

I'm just thinking from the point of like- But she wasn't given the opportunity to even say, and that's what it sounds like from this here. We wasn't even given the opportunity to say, yeah, we want to stand with you. Yes, use my son's name on this right here. This is not the same point at all, but here's's an example for me I lost both my dogs in 2018 some people know that that had a huge effect on me some people don't now now I was with you now you're with me when I was with you um oh that's when I was going to your house every day and then we was actually in your car and I want to say it was

Harlem it was Harlem. It was Harlem that we dropped off at the vet. And you found out the news. And me and you was in the car. And I saw how that affected you. You don't remember that, bro? You was crying, like, and not even to make a joke of it. But it looked like a love and hip-hop scene.

Like, the way that the tears were coming down your eyes. I was like, oh, shit. I just remember the group chat text we got No I was with Joe When he found out the news Like oh shit It's oh I was driving

This was before so This was when I was your driver And you hated my driver But this was when I was your driver I'll say ball drop real quick And it was just me and you in the car And I'm like damn He's fucked up

Can I just say That network head Joe Hates how some of these sentences come out. What you mean? I was driving with you, bro. I don't even remember you being the driver, but cool. But cool. I'll roll. But my point in that is I lost both my dogs in 2018, and you were there.

Awesome, right? Today, sometimes people be like, they don't know me. Hey, man, hey man how's your dogs right that's fucked up and i'll say they both died in 2018 oh shit i'm sorry he had no idea well yeah i mean it's fine it's no offense but if you don't have any idea how would you have any idea right now imagine that if i lost a child right if i lost a child and did what i had to do to get hold with that which i can't even imagine what that takes i don't think that you ever get hold of that yeah you can't yeah and then every time i turn the tv on or pick up the phone

on social media i have to see my child's name from people that haven't communicated with me at all yeah i could see a situation where i'm i'm upset by this yeah it's actually what that's what pop smokes mom says you said it's difficult for her to you know digest music from him or see anything from him Biggie's mom said exactly

but us as fans it's hard for us to really you know see that but it's like from the inside looking in that shit is hard yeah I agree

you guys are getting me depressed I'm gonna move on if I didn't think the Grammys were rigged at all when they aired they are yeah but see that's the thing about my experience the Grammys were rigged at all when they aired. They are. Yeah, but see, that's the thing about my experience watching Grammys that night, Parks.

I felt bad about having a podcast and coming in here to give my opinion on all of these takes. I felt horrible. Watching the Grammys that night, I said, oh, shit, y'all. This was never for me. It was never for me. It was never for me. It's always been for the casual fan that don't really know to drive into sales. It's not for me to use my industry brain to now take it and go dive into the points because it's not what this is for.

All these artists I don't listen to. It's a giant commercial. Yeah, that's what they're doing. And it's work. And I like the people that the commercial is for today. Got it. Now, how I feel about the Grammys is the same. I don't deem to get my approval rating from anywhere else.

That's inside of me. But to the people that do, like Roddy Ricch was going crazy afterward. He was saying yo man he didn't name kanye but kanye is the only one that pissed in a grammy he said yo you pissed in a grammy man i'm nominated for six of them how i'm supposed to feel what do that do to my accomplishments blah blah blah well what does it do roddy rich i can't expect you to know you to view things the way kanye feels it you as a first time Grammy guy and Kanye toward the tail end of his career

as one of the richest men in America y'all would view it differently Kanye pissed in the Grammy fucking Drake ate some cereal or some shit out the Grammy

whole boycotted the Grammy like when you when you on that you on that that's not for the new artist to be on yeah you're not at that level

but if I didn't think that it was rigged at any point, they ended the night confirming to me that it was rigged. Billie Eilish wins an award. I don't know anything about Billie Eilish

or her music. I completely understood. I understood her winning a year ago or two years ago. Because she had a big album and it was a good album something I went back to but she was everywhere

she won the big one right she won record of the year Billie Eilish comes up for the big one record of the year and she spends her whole time it just came off a little odd all of that

yo Meg is the one Meg I listen to every single day this should have been your award Meg this should have been yours i'm giving it to you see that's why the biggest moment of the grammys which is you know that's the big award i'm gonna use that to throw all the spotlight on you and that's why i and that's why wait a minute and that's why i i don't care about what rock nation did because there were some artists to come up there and say, it's you.

It's not me. It's you. Joe thought that that speech was a little off, but I didn't understand why until I'm watching the news and they say that the song that she won for

is a song that's not out. It's a song that's not released. It's a song that is attached to a soundtrack of a movie that should have been released in October, but because of the pandemic, it was not. How did you win? See, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either.

I thought it was on the soundtrack. I knew it was on the soundtrack. I thought it was something that came out, though. That's crazy. It's not even out. That's nuts. That's insane. That is nuts.

How did you win it? Maybe it was just that good of a record. Maybe it was just that good of a record. No one heard it, right? I thought the Beyonce win was nuts. No, that's nuts. No, that's crazy. Hold on, let me explain it to you, too.

All us artists, all the records are good before they come out. Tell me one record that ain't good before it come out. All of us think all this shit is thriller. Well, I wasn't speaking. I don't think it was that good of a record. You don't know because it didn't come out. Right now, the song still

is not out. I was going to say what you told me. I can't go listen to the song nowhere. It has to be out at this point, but I don't think she deserves it. It was released as a single on November 13, 2019. Oh, that's Mad time for the win. Oh, then... If you say that, then you don't

understand submissions. I was about to say 2019. You don't... No. Wait, it was released when? 2019. November something. That's right. That's, you know, the Grammys is... That's not what they report on the news. Well, we can always...

The news is saying it's wrong. We we can google it we can check it out I'm looking at the Wikipedia right now but even if they rigged it I don't care I don't care like I was happy about the whole ordeal all of it I was and it was a good watch I wouldn't be mad if they returned next year doing it

in a similar fashion they did it for Twitter they did it for Twitter they did it for the internet it seemed like Trevor know I wasn't mad at I got a question about that though Trevor Noah and I don't follow him enough to know is that how he really looks yeah like the weekend okay yeah I just wonder like the weekend just wanted to know. Like The Weeknd. Well, he used to have a... No. He used to have like a mocha. Well, I just asked that because I found it

when I watched the Grammys and I found it kind of funny to me. I'm like, oh, they was going to get The Weeknd here regardless. Okay, if you're not going to show up, we're going to bring our own Weeknd.

And that's what it looked like to me. He got the same mustache, the same look. I'm like, from a distance, that looks like The Weeknd. So we're going to get him here one way or another.

That's why I asked that question Trevor Noah's a comedian yeah so that was intentional then okay no no no Trevor Noah he's been growing his hair out

like this since the quarantine he's a star boy he is a star boy he's been a star yeah I wanna try to be funny cause like I said I don't know enough about him

every time you say that something funny comes out your mouth it's like when people say no disrespect. Exactly. And the disrespect immediately follows. Yeah. Got it.

So I don't want to misplace any anger and I'm going to leave this Grammy conversation in a couple of seconds but let me just rep for some people right quick. As I'm watching

the Doja Cat performance that she bodied along with the video that she dropped to the meme that I didn't know where that sexy ass beat came from.

All of that was great. She's been killing. Right? But she gets up there, and at the end of one of her verses, the last four bars was, for me, reminiscent of Nicki Minaj. You hit it right on the head, bro. When she raps, she has some Nicki-esque She doesn't hide it. She says that Nicki's an inspiration to hers,

one of the greatest ever. It was awesome, right? And when she said that, I immediately thought of Nas winning his Grammy after X amount of nominations and the Grammys doing the right thing. And then I thought about all the confirmation that we as artists get from the Grammys

when we're nominated or deemed a winner. And Nicki Minaj popped in my head, of course. Uh-huh. Because it's like, okay. Even if you played a game where you want to win the Grammy because your label spent X amount of dollars and your album did X amount of platinum,

so you should win so your rates can go up if it says Grammy nominated, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. In the event that that doesn't happen, who the fuck are y'all to say that y'all are the reason why it does your thinking is why it doesn't happen right like nas winning under these circumstances all of these nominations and years later for me as a hip-hop enthusiast it's funny to me it's funny nikki having inspired so many of the younger women that are dominating if you ask joe i think women will continue to dominate for the foreseeable future.

I think some credence has to go into that. And you have to acknowledge that. You don't see the trend? They don't respect Queens. And when he says Queens, he means the borough. The borough, yeah. I caught that. You think I've ever told you that?

No, I was confused when he said that. But the first time, he said that to me in a private conversation. I was confused. That's all. Might have something there. I might be. I might be the slow friend. I'll take that.

I think I was one of the ones who boycotted years back, too. Okay. See? If I'm not mistaken. There was a list of everyone, all the hip-hop that who had some point boycotted the Grammys. And I believe he was on there. Nicki Minaj needs her flowers. True.

Whoever the Grammy board is, whoever's on there. Y'all are not the ones that get to determine that Nicki Minaj and all of her impact and influence don't get to win an award. I'm sorry. I'm done with those days. Y'all are not the fucking gatekeepers, the barriers of entry. Y'all are not any of that. What she did, she did that.

And now we're at a place where we have to acknowledge the, not impersonators, but the people who were inspired by that act. It's the same thing like when some of these people win, I see the Drake influence there.

Call me a dick rider. Who knows? But Nicki is in that same boat. I don't think too many more years need to go by where she's not awarded for her efforts. That's how I felt watching Doja Cat and some of the winners there. You know what really pisses me off about

kind of what you're saying there god forbid something were to happen to nikki flowers galore flowers exactly then everyone wants to come out then it's lifetime achievement and it's every award every award show is going to give you every award imaginable what nothing changed in a year it's not like like your contributions change your music change your impact change nothing's changed in a year it's not like your contributions changed your music changed your impact changed nothing's changed from this award show to the next one

except you're not here to stand up there and give your acceptance speech that's the only thing that changed but now you get honored for everything

her DNA was all over this award show it's not just a blueprint all these chicks is her son it's her DNA and it's funny you say that because I said the same thing on my podcast.

It's like, yo, Nicki Minaj appreciation should be a thing because none of this even looks like this without her. Right. And I prefaced it with I'm young. I know I'm the young guy. I didn't live through the Lil' Kim era. I didn't live through Foxy Brown. I didn't see that. So for me, Nicki Minaj was

that go-to female rapper. She took what, being that you weren't, you're like, I wasn't there. I wasn't there. Okay. They set the foundation.

She built the fucking castle on top of the foundation. She showed how to be a pop star. She put it to it right. She took what they started and made it this. But she doesn't get appreciated for it.

So I'm glad that Joe mentioned it. That's what gets me. Because then the second someone mentions her, the argument comes in, oh, well, yeah, she was inspired by Kim. So you're still going to jump over her. You'll give the flowers to the people before her and the people after her, but not her. You know what's fucked up about that? Because the Grammys isn't going to say Lil' Kim deserves the flowers, right?

They're not going to say that. They're never going to mention Lil' Kim in that regard. But then they don't acknowledge her for the pop star either. And we don't really acknowledge her for that, what she's done in the same breath. While we at lack of acknowledgement, did the Grammys do the rest in peace television board to all the people that passed this year? They did. Yeah, they did.

They did. In Memoriam, whatever it's called. They did that. Did anyone see Andre Harrell? He was there. Yeah. He was there for sure. Doom was there.

Got it. I wish they would have thrown him Friday, but I guess I get it. He wasn't on a mainstream thing was there for sure. Doom was there. Got it. I wish they would throw him Friday but I guess I get it. He wasn't on a mainstream thing but that would have been a nice cultural reach out.

Still should have been there. Yeah. Still should have been there. Yeah. He should have been there. But they you know they said oh we also have a list of a thousand

other people on the website you can go check that out. Which I thought was kind of funny. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. Rest in peace Freddy Gosselin.

Absolutely. Rest in peace Doom. Rest in peace all the people we lost. Pop Smoke, Doom Doom Juice WRLD Nipsey Just everybody It's a lot

It's a lot So maybe that's why They threw it on the website Because it was so much Death In the last year And I'm not even Just talking hip hop

You gotta think They covered all music It was a lot Yeah it was a lot of Death last year So I'll cut them some slack That they said Hey go to this website

And check out all the people That passed away Because we're just gonna put some of the notable or more known people here on you know why they got the show one thing i thought about with the grammys too is you know the the age-old discussion is we got to make our own shit we got to make our own shit but we have some of our own shit in the the bt hip-hop awards the bt uh hey podcast awards the soul uh soul train awards and i think that we need to just also put stock in that the same way because sometimes it feels like oh well it's just a little bt award or something like that and that's not cool either like we should we should put them on the same pedestal as we put the grammys on as opposed to saying oh man we to start our own shit.

We got to start our own Grammys. They kind of exist and we just don't give them enough credit, in my opinion. It's because we're still looking for acceptance outside of our own. That's really what it all boils down to. The BET Awards is just us. The Grammys is them

and us. So we want to be accepted outside of our own. Well, the BET Awards is not just us. So we want to be accepted outside of our own. Well, the BET Awards is not just us. It's Viacom. You get what I'm saying. Which is true. It's never just us anywhere. It's not.

It's really not. It's really not. But that's the point I had to learn as a creator. Like, throughout my career, in hindsight, I'm looking at the road traveled. And I'm like, all like all right man when they get to trying to rob me or they get to trying to scam me or they get to trying to might not monetize something that they didn't participate in my advantage is as a creator i can go somewhere else

and create something they can't so they won't know what to see when i create it the downfall in that is that as a creator anywhere that you go to create something those people are coming yeah yeah you're not going to escape them so you better learn how to coexist or live with it and that's the truth of the matter um I know we want to talk about new music because there is new music that came out even if I didn't hear it but before we get to that we were talking about nikki i want to stay on female rappers for a quick second this week i saw uh justin la's justin la's justin la boy justin laBoy's show with Saweetie and Prince and Puff's son Prince. I saw a couple.

It's Justin. Justin. I'm sorry. Justin. Justin. Not Prince Cole. Justin and Justin. Justin.

Justin. Justin. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. Justin. Justin LaBoy.

Okay. That group. I'll take it. And Saweetie. Right. Is Saweetie. Right. Is Saweetie all right? Is she okay? In terms of what?

I'd just like to check. I mean, she looked okay in the video. Every time I see her, she looks pretty good. It's important that, you know. You said that she all right? Just in general, you know. Oh. Yeah.

Anyway, new music. New music. New music. New music. Benny the Butcher. It wasn't a lot. Benny and Fraud. Yeah. Benny and Fraud. Yeah.

Benny and Fraud. That's a good start. Fraud drop every week. Yeah. No, Fraud stay working. That's a good game. I mean, Benny. Benny be working too.

Dropping heat, so I'm not mad at it. Benny the Butcher, the plugs I meant to out now in your phones right now. He's been working on this for a while, promoting this for a while. I did get a chance to listen to a little bit of it. I heard the whole thing twice. I support it. There's some heat on there. He's talking on there.

It is heat. He's talking on there. And this is coming from anybody who knows me. No, I do not. I'm not Team Griselda like everybody else. Really? I have my own stance when it comes to them. You can't sit in an ice seat and say that, man.

You mean mall? That's not an ice seat. I'm just saying. You can't sit in a mall. You can't sit in an ice seat and say that, man. You mean more? I mean, you can't sit in more. I'm just saying. You can't sit in more. You can't sit in more. I mean, that's ice right there, but he said ice and seat.

I'm sorry, that's more, you know, that's the more stuff. That's all. That's gotta be funny. I'm just saying. He's trying to be funny.

He's trying to be funny. Why not though? I do think Benny and Conway can rap. I also say that I've heard too much of the exact same thing from them for too long. So it's the production. You're waiting for change. It's everything.

So you've given me this before. But what if that's just their sound and that's where we at with it? And that's fine. It's not for me then. It's not for you. Okay. Which is why I don't listen. Because you don't want to see them do trap.

No, I don't want to see them do trap. I said earlier today. You're like a pop type to see them do trap. I said earlier today. You're like a pop type dude, right? Nah. I said earlier today. They have killed some trap joints, though. I'd pay proud to pay prices, which was, you know, Nipsey's thing, to hear Benny over Heatmakers. A whole project.

I'd like that. Shut up. I would. Joe, why you mad at that? That's real shit, though. Shut up. I'm not mad at that though what what's the problem

with that I don't like the same sound that I hear I don't like Derringer beats I don't like hearing them over Alchemist beats I don't like Freddie Gibbs over Alchemist beats

I don't like Royce over these beats like I don't I don't like those beats I don't like that that sound that sound to me and me and Parks

we've had this talk in the past that sound to me I jokingly call it the boom bap. It's a joke. I know it's not the traditional boom bap sound. This is more boom bap in a way. I know. It is.

I know. The sound to me is that late 90s gritty New York era sound. Okay. I don't like that. I don't want it. I'm not a fan of premiere production, for example. You have to get out. I'm kidding. You don't like that. I don't want to. I'm not a fan of premiere production, for example. You know. You have to get out.

I'm coming down. You can't win, bro. I'm coming down. Can you come on? I can come on. What I'm just saying, like,

so that was my knock against them. It worked for them. So, by all means. You know, look at Gibbs and Alchemist got nominated for a Grammy.

So, I'm not saying that it's whack. Right. It's not for me. I was a Gibbs fan when he was rapping over the trap beats. Do you like him over Madlib? No. Okay.

No. So he really just doesn't like that sound. Yeah. I don't like that sound. You don't like the sound. I don't like the sound. So it's not Benny. No.

It's not Benny. It's the sound. I've heard, I have a project in my phone that I put together called Benny the Butcher Guest Appearances. And it's every feature that he's ever done outside of the Griselda in house and he's killed

like this shit is fire so you want you want Benny to like you want to hear him over like Muster hell no hell no don't do that to Muster

cause Muster got a bag but I don't want to hear him on that day Muster has a bag that's not just you know the pop the one you want to hear Biebs over day. Mustard has a bag. That's not just, you know, the pop. Well, new mustard. You want to hear Biebs over mustard, right?

I'll take that. Harmonizing? I'll take it. Fucking guy over here. But nah, it's funny that you mentioned the production thing because I thought the same thing too. His last project that he did with Hit-Boy, that's still in my rotation. Like, I think Hit-Boy kind of set himself apart when I listened to this because I don't get the same feeling, and there's no disrespect and no slight to Harry Fraud, but I don't

get that same feeling from the project that he did with Hit-Boy. This song, Plug Talk, featuring 2 Chainz, for me, it sounded like he was chasing that sound that Ice is talking about. He was trying to stay current. He was trying to stay in that flow, that cadence. And for me, I was like, yo, I got to go back to Burden of Proof. Can I reply to that? For sure.

You know he has a Drake record in his pocket if he was trying to stay relevant and mainstream. I heard it. I know, but it's not on here. So what do you think of that? If that were his goal, why wouldn't he try to drop that? I'm pretty sure that he could go out and get any type of trap producer to do an album with him.

And I think that's also on Drake too. I think Drake also was like, hey, when it's time, then let's go there. I don't think that's just a Benny decision to say, hey, I'm going to drop the Drake record. So maybe he wanted to put it on on the last project or on what he said

he I saw something he said a couple days ago where he said he can't wait to get that record yeah that's what he said obviously that means I want this record to come out but you have to wait on a plan right and a team to work around that record so there's a Drake record so you know it's too big you're not gonna put this on the plugs I meant to too, I would assume. Nah. You put this on an album. You're at an industry, I mean, on a label album or something. Yeah, maybe.

Somewhere there's a bigger marketing plan and shit. And honestly, the other thing, I'm only speaking for me. I'm getting tired of the rapper one producer albums. Really? I like to mix it up. Show me some versatility. And that's, again, that's the thing about these guys.

It's the same thing over and over. I've heard your story. I've heard you. Like, you can rap. I'm not taking that from you. Did you listen to Conway's last album? How? Conway's last album?

That was... From a King to a Goddess? From a King to a Goddess. Oh, it wasn't one after that? Something's burning or something like that? No, there was like a deluxe Or something like that Oh yeah there was There was another one after that

He did with Big Ghost Come on you're supposed to know this Oh with Big Ghost Yeah yeah yeah But anyway did you listen to that album Cause that one had A bunch of different producers It had Hip Boy

I think Fraud might have been on there There was I listened to it I don't I like I listened to it I don't remember There's nothing that stood out

That makes me go back to that album Okay Like Yeah Fair Is there any more new music That dropped Justin Bieber

outside of Biebs real relaxed I was just like you know I thought you was a music podcast that's all we talking about music

harmonizing all over that album who else besides the Biebs Guap Dad Guap Dad dropped okay I didn't get to listen

to it yet yeah I didn't I won't hear that D-Nice and Neo they dropped a little something your boy that's my guy your hero it's a good song I didn't get to listen to it yet. Yeah, I didn't. I won't hear that. D-Nice and Ne-Yo. They dropped a little something. Your boy.

That's my guy. Your hero. It's a good song. D-Nice and Ne-Yo dropped a song. And Ken Jones. Yeah. I think it was for me. I love Ken Jones. Is it an R&B record?

It's like a summertime feel. It's a summertime feel. It was nice to see D-Nice because over the pandemic, for somebody in my demographic, my age, I wasn't too or as familiar with D-Nice because over the pandemic for somebody in my demographic, my age, I wasn't too or as familiar with D-Nice and his work. I don't care if I sound ignorant for saying it. It's when I was born.

To go back, when I clicked on the record and like Park said, that's my guy. When I saw Neo on that shit and I clicked the record, it showed all of his old work. Then for me, because the nigga had hair. I don't know, I don't know D-Nice.

So when I seen the artwork and he had the hot top, it was 1990. I'm like, oh shit, let me go back. And Joe, you don't got to make that face.

I know I'm young. I understand that I'm young and I'm done. Whatever you want to put on me, cool. I'll take that. But it was nice to, going just the rabbit hole

of D-Nice for me and other people who probably wasn't as familiar. So, yeah. That's why I'm not with you. Look at you getting educated.

Yeah, you do your homework. I respect you. You wasn't there for it so you go back and do it. That is the cool thing about streaming though. That's the cool thing about streaming.

For young kids, you can just go get it. Exactly. As opposed to when we were kids, like finding old shit, we had to go spend a hundred thousand dollars

on old TVs. Because I get tight with the new kids for not tapping in and doing that because I'm the young kid As opposed to when we were kids, like finding old shit, we had to go spend $100 on old TVs. Because I get tight with the new kids for not tapping in and doing that. Because I'm the young kid that I probably take an album each week that's from like the 90s, the 80s, the 70s, and I go tap in because we can. I find it so dumb for them not to tap in because like y'all had to go to fucking record stores and really smoke some shit. You might spend a lot of money on shit you might not like. This shit is, that's what I'm saying.

This shit is on our phone. Let me tell you something, bro. No Limit Records was dropping an album every two weeks for two years straight. I bought every last one of them. Shit that I don't even, I can't tell you one song off of today. I was going to the store spending $16, $17 per CD every two weeks. Yes. Like, yeah, it was a commitment back then.

The towers fell. I found out the towers fell because I was buying Fab's debut album and Blueprint. What y'all do when it's sold out? You have to be at that store at nine in the morning. That's what you do.

You can pre-order. You get a mom and pop. I'm going to call youorder. You had to pre-order. You get a little slip. Yeah. We didn't call you guys that we have to. Hello? Yo. Oh, it's part two. Hello? Yo, you hear me?

Yeah. Yeah, we got to do that the right way, bro. I thought I was just. It was just us, bro. You trying to get me caught up. Roll the cameras back, nigga. You got to change your heart. Nigga, Joe is...

He sold it out that quick. Joe crazy. You can't do that. Joe didn't say nothing. Joe didn't say nothing. All right, this is Justin LaVoy calling me, right? And we are live on the air.

How are you doing? I'm doing phenomenal. Marvellous. Splendid. Okay. how are you doing i'm doing phenomenal marvelous splendid okay we did a call earlier where you were telling me about your revolt show but let's do it again let's do it yes i didn't know i thought you were calling me you know how you usually do and we just talk crazy yeah i didn't know it was being recorded and that's the thing about you newbies in business yeah i thought you know you can't we we went from friend to interview too quick you gotta be careful you gotta be careful so listen so you have a new show

your first guest was chris brown your Kevin Durant. And KD. Talk to him. Talk to him. Before you, Joe. Nobody came out the gate like that before. That's another story. Now you got Saweetie up there looking beautiful, right? As always.

Amazing. Man, she looks better in person, Joe. Oh, my God. I believe you. She was glowing. It was hard to make eye contact with her during the show, Joe. Extra glow. Yeah, listen, man.

And the blogs are picking up these stories everywhere. And what I'm saying is this to you. Right. I don't have a significant other that I would let go do an interview at a mansion with her ex and you. But why me? I'm innocent here. You was there.

None of mine can go sit with their ex and Justin LaBoi. What if it was just Justin LaBoi, though? Nah. My bitches can't sit with you. Sorry, buddy. At least you honest. I was watching your show,

and before you asked the question you was like yo let me pull up my sleeve but you only pulled up one sleeve so i was like yo miraculously it was the sleeve with like a iced out rolly and all this other shit on it the other sleeve just stayed down i was like man i can't fuck with niggas like this, man. Nobody said nothing when you had to chain down to your belly button 20 years ago. Excuse me now. Yo, you getting your shit off out there?

You said what happened? You getting your shit off out there? I'm trying. So, this is all I'm saying. Now have rumors of sweetie and quavo breaking up and unfollowing each other i don't know if those things are true i don't speak to either one of them but it seems to be coming off the back i thought i thought you knew quavo you had a little friendship if i'm not mistaken that is my man's that's my guys we kissed we made up pause um but how do you feel about this breakup

coming on the heels of your show like do you feel like you and her and her ex might have had anything to do with that um nah honestly i didn't that wasn't my intent when she came on the show you know if you know anything about my brand you know it's toxic you know we turned up you know anything about my brand, you know it's toxic. You know we turned up. You know before this, I had demon time. So you know that's the bag I'm in. So when she came on the show, she knew what she was getting herself into. So it was a vibe. It was supposed to be fun.

It was never supposed to be all this breakup rumors and all that. So for that to happen, hopefully they get back together. They was a dope couple for real, but, you know. This nigga went and found some media. I know a lot of people ain't mad that she's single right now, though. Niggas is going to start

shooting her shots. She's the biggest. We never knew she was single, Justin. Oh, I'm sorry. I apologize. We don't. The shade room told us, Josh. The shade room told us Joe I think she's single

I think she's gonna get a max deal in free agency the shade room told us Joe a max free agency deal I mean you're not getting me in trouble I peaced it up

with them niggas I'm not doing this with you is there anything you can tell us about your show moving forward that the viewing public does not know

give it to me well we got a lot of special guests coming up I think it gets Anything you can tell us about your show moving forward that the viewing public does not know. Give it to me. Well, we got a lot of special guests coming up. I think it gets even more toxic. You know, Sweetie was just the start. And I think my next guest is really, really like the king of toxic and demon time. He might be the worst nigga alive right now besides me. And then after that, we got, you know, there's a group

of females who I think are, you know, women, not females, women, the most toxic women in the game. So, you know, the next two, three episodes, man, make sure y'all tune in. Respectfully, Justin's show, the biggest show in the world besides

the Good Buddy Podcast. All right. Get that off on you, man. Actually, Justin's show, the biggest show in the world besides the Joe's Money Podcast. You told me to go. You don't let me get that off on you. Listen, I'm supporting this show even though y'all took my State of the Culture budget. No, don't do that, Joe. Yo, I'm still supporting. You just sharing a couple dollars.

No, I'm still supporting, man. Puff ain't invited me to none of the houses since. Yeah, nigga, I see you. Malibu, Miami. I'm watching, nigga. Stop it. I've seen you New Year's Eve with your legs crossed so far out. Lookin' sexy.

Lookin' sexy. Look at me lookin' sexy. He had the turtleneck on 82 degree webinar. Oh my God. But yeah, I want to be on the show, y'all. I'll be in New York next week, man. So if you're filming anywhere from Tuesday to Thursday, please, man, I want to come on and talk my shit with you.

Oh, listen, man, you're more than welcome to join me if you get a free minute away from Meek Mill and the rest of the guys. Oh, here he goes. You have to get that shit on. I knew you wanted to get that off, bro. You got it. Yo, what Meek doing right now? Meek somewhere on a bike

popping willies around Atlanta or something. Yeah, let me stop because niggas don't even know if it's been me or you joking around like this. That's what I'm saying. That's not the first time you call me, Joe. I'm like, what the... I'm a deer in headlights.

If any of the other conversations ever came up, man, I'm out what the I'm a deer in headlights if any of the other conversations ever came up man I'm out of here oh wait actually just I'm glad you're on the phone because there's a lot of situations in the last few months where like my character is coming like into question it's making me sad out there like can you tell people about

how much of a inspiration I was to you I'm a Joe whatever the world about how much of a inspiration I was to you? Nah, I'm a A.L. Listen, Joe, whatever the world ever had to say, I defend you because, like, throughout this whole journey,

Joe's on the phone with me, listening to me slander everyone on Earth. And he was a mental health coach for me. Oh, my God. Mental health coach for me. And Joe was nothing. And listen, but I'm going to keep it real. Joe was have coach for me. Joe was never a hater. He's sharing lawyer information.

I really appreciate you, Joe. I didn't get the bag that you got, but shit, I'm on my way. I know what that set look like. It look good. Listen, man. Listen, when you come up here over there. It look good. All right, listen, man. Listen, when you come up here, hit me. Hit me.

Let's get together. All right, bet I'll get there Monday. I'm going to hit you. All right, bet. All right, bro. One. Yo, Joe, I'm a little jealous, bro. I'm going to love you, man.

He made Justin better than you? Justin LaVoy is like, that's... What did you say, now? No, I thought hearing him, you giving him the codes to life and shit, the blueprint. I've been here for quite a while now. That's crazy, son. He give you the blueprint? That's wild.

That's crazy. The blueprint, I'm kind of just taking it on my own part. He only called you for work. I'm just a fly on the wall. Damn. The fact that he's getting the real cheat codes. Right. Sharing all your information. I'm confused why you on the wall you know like the fact that he's getting like the real cheekos sharing all your information with him I'm not the kid bro

I just told you me and you shared a moment when the dog definitely had the moment you know when your tears was on your cheek I had the tissue right in the pocket but that's just the thing he tried your tears and you didn't give him the keys the dog was gonna die whether he was dead or not like I mean

that's the thing about life sometimes sometimes people overstate their value in the situation hey the dog's dying nigga

you ain't do CPR like that's what it is Justin Justin LaVoy got 2.6 million followers on Instagram he's doing his thing what you got

but he ain't wiping his tears what you got he ain't wiping his tears alright but that's you got? He ain't wiping your tears. That's all I'm saying. But how many followers you got? 2.6 hundred. I don't got... Damn.

Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I got 2.6. The budget didn't get approved. I'm sorry. Damn. I don't know if they know how that goes. I just thought your tears was more valuable than, you know what I mean?

My tears. Than flowers, that's all. I don't need you to catch my tears. Fuck out of here. You do cry a lot so i guess i shouldn't have put that much stock into your tears here's a question for you actually here's a question for everybody let's do it and again we missed uh missed the pod last week so some things that i i missed and didn't talk about and some of this stuff is not important at all but the

sweetie topic came up when it was like would you let let your ex go to, or would you let your girl go to her ex's house for an interview? I asked Justin. Cool. But the Salt Bae shit with Shorty, where dude went to go have a little meal. Salt Bae just put the knife in the steak, fed her with it. She had her tongue all out licking the meat. That's crazy. The meat was looking savory, too.

She enjoyed that too much. Oh my God. Well, that's what I'm asking. She could have just ate the meat, man. Or picked it off her finger. That's not what you go to the salt bay for. You don't go to the salt bay to pick the steak off the fork. Her tongue touched her chin, man.

She got her Instagram page. Did y'all find that? Nah, I know you did. I didn't look for it. I know you did. I've been doing research. That's all. Yeah.

She got a really nice Instagram page. That's all. Oh, you followed her? Nah, I ain't follow. Just did the research. What I'm saying, would y'all be mad if Salt Bae fed y'all girls some meat?

Oh, yeah. Like that? Yeah, absolutely. We gonna talk about that in the car. All right. When I'm there, no. When we get to the crib. I'm there when i'm there no but we get to the crib you can use your finger all right let me try to paint let me try to paint this the scenario a bit differently for you guys um there's an event to celebrate between you and your partner. You guys are going somewhere that you don't typically go for date night.

It's a special occasion. You end up at Salt Bae's restaurant where the menu and the prices are a bit more expensive than the typical anniversary of Valentine's Day. This is a thingamajiggy here. Look at his face. His face. You're paying. Look at his face. Look at his face. Look at his face. Look at his face. Look at him.

I'm listening. You are paying for the experience here. Yeah. Salt bae, nine to salt, the sprinkly shit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Right, right. A little elbow shit. Your girl may be more excited to be here than you are. Mm-hmm. She wants this experience. Right. Mm-hmm. She wants this experience. Right.

Okay. You as her dude, you're going to step on that, suppress that, or try to ruin the experience because of your own feelings about her eating steak off some dude's knife?

Nah. Well, I don't even like calling it We can go around. You can give it to me. The Salt Bae experience. Perfect marriage, man. Nah, not even.

The Salt Bae experience is the elbow, all the bullshit all that yeah right ain't got nothing to do with you taking the stake and seductively feeding it to her she you know expanded his brand ice now you want to say what the salt bay experience is to your girl ah got it yeah got it you want to you want to control women so what if you were in a strip club and she you know didn't feel how the uh dancers may what if you were in a strip club and she didn't feel how the dancers may be giving you attention

in a certain way? Well, I'm not going in a strip club with my girl. Bah. It's fun. Oh, so you don't do nothing fun with your girl? Yeah, I'm just...

Nah, they watch movies. They watch Justice League. Nah, nah, nah. Justice League. Popcorn just came out. They watch Justice League the four-hour cut. Yeah, they do things.

We go out, walk the baby together. You know what I mean? I see you I see you I see yeah yeah that's it coming to America to was crazy it wasn't a real thing I get it I get it I get it when I see this like dude face me I'm gonna talk about that in the car I'm know what I'm saying? You could have took that. He definitely talked to her. I know he did. Yeah.

And he was tight the rest of the night too. Yeah. Look at the face was. Like he might have asked for the check. Right then and there. Yo, let's go. You ain't got to smile while you take it. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, for me. Look at her tongue, son. Look at her tongue. It's how you receive it. It's like she could have snatched it off the knife like a Rottweiler. And nobody would have felt like it was a issue. Yo, it was up a dude.

She didn't have to like Women are not Rottweilers. It's an act. It's an act. She could have done that whatever, like not animal, but whatever action

she wanted to use But Beavs is in the clear. Justin Bieber is in the clear though. Whatever. She can be a Rottweiler but but Biebs can harmonize nigger and it's okay

assertiveness Joe assertiveness she wanted to take the steak off of that knife she has to take the beef like that yeah like that was on her that's not on Salt Bae

like I can't leave that establishment mad at Salt Bae she hype as hell I'm not mad at him because he's trying to do it I saw a clip with Amari Cooper yeah he do the same that's his shit I can't leave that establishment mad at Salt Bae. I'm not mad at him. Because he's trying to do it. I saw a clip with Amari Cooper.

Yeah, he do the same. That's his shit. Amari Cooper, I don't look at him like he's soft. You know, anybody that play in the NFL, like they kind of

come with a credit where it's like, all right, but. They hardcore? Anybody playing in the NFL is not soft, right? What about punters? They hard?

Nah, the punters too. Pat McAfee. He looked like he, you know what I mean? He got a favorite punter. You know what I mean? We're not doing that. We're not doing that.

He might be the one, Joe. We don't got a favorite punter. He might be the one. We're not doing that. He's not my favorite. But he got a ring. I've never heard of Pat McAfee except for Pat McAfee.

He has a ring. I love that. Alex Rod would say Vaughn so hard. I see that. When he got a ring, though. I see that. That's all I'm saying. Pat has a ring.

Pat, he's a nigger. I'm just saying. Salt Bae, just like I told you earlier, Salt Bae, his energy is steady. He's trying to put the meat in your mouth, no matter if you're a guy or a girl. Let me move on, man. Hey, don't worry, man.

Let's keep this thing moving right along. That's just an e-mail. Rich the Kid busted at LAX with a weapon. Somebody in here tell me how this keeps happening. I got nothing, bro. That's pretty easy. Maybe, you know, you were doing certain drugs, marijuana, and then you get to the airport now.

It's a quick flight, and you forget you keep something concealed on your bag when you're carrying on yeah that's so whatever you just said yeah let me help you you sound nuts it happens but see it's nuts but that happens i've been like with people where they had some do you know the new york gun laws no this is lax that was lax you know airport law no no i'm not saying it has to do with the law. I'm saying like when you're like- But to know that- I know, no, I know. But I'm saying like imagine rushing your,

like having a rush flight. Like your flight is soon. You don't remember what you have conceived. Well, listen, that's kind of what my thing is. And that's how I get to my point because I put myself in a situation and I imagine. So let's go through it. When I have a really early morning flight, whatever is happening the night before, I feel like it's distracting me, and I'm forgetting something.

So I'm paranoid. So I spend the entire night before figuring out what I'm forgetting for the morning flight. It was the nine. Let's pretend. I need this. I forgot that again. Damn. Back to self-defense.

You never know. It was the nine. Shit. Damn, I forgot something. You never know. I knew I had to kill one of these dudes when I landed. The baby? What if they don't have my money?

Wait, all right. So I'm thinking about what i uh may be forgetting sure uh i imagine if i smoke a blunt in that or get drunk in that it'll be real bad that night or the morning and i won't have the wherewithal to pack this bag correctly or check it correctly because i imagine that that's what's happening people are forgetting that they're packing in the gun bag. Yeah. Hey, this is the gun bag. When I'm in my car, you should have an airport bag

and a gun travel bag. That's a good point. This is the guns and drugs bag. But legally. Oh, of course. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. That's the thing to say, bro. Come back here. But you can't tell me to shut the fuck? But that's the thing. That's the thing to say, bro. Come back here.

Get your man. But you can't tell me to shut the fuck up because clearly he didn't have that distinction. I will say this. Yo, brother. Wait, let me hear a thing, bro. Why can't we tell you to shut the fuck up? Because I'm being mean. Did you sign your NDA?

This is not the first rapper, entertainer, whoever to walk through a major airport with a firearm. So that should be. Of course, you just have to say it. I'm missing something. That's all I'm saying. We've traveled together. We have security. Security makes sure.

I've never. No, I don't keep that thing on. Wait, wait. Let me hear him out. No, we have security. And security goes through the protocol to make sure that this shit is done the right way. There's a certain bag. There's a certain security that you got to go through. That's what I'm saying. I've never the right way. There's a certain bag, there's a certain security

that you got to go through. That's what I'm saying. I've never checked my bag for the time. Hold up for a minute, this your man, right? Yeah. This is why your man

pisses me off. He do, he do. So you know those things. I know, that's what I'm saying. I'm not rich the kid. So when you double back to the Denver club

with no security, no gun, no knife, away from your crew and people that love you. You do know these things. Holy shit. It's this.

Sometimes I live on the edge. It's different. It's different. It's a little different. But I will say, you said different though. Like these rappers live really fast

compared to maybe you and me, Joe. Like they're doing things at a time that they probably can't keep up with. Like the gun. Yeah. All right. Well, check this out.

Here's my response to that. If you can't keep up with where the gun was placed. You shouldn't be the one with the gun. Should you have a gun? That's the part I'm not getting. What if you have to determine if you have to shoot somebody? I do have the gun. Don't move. Don't you have to determine if you have to shoot somebody? I do have the gun. Don't move.

Don't move. Yeah. But you know the crazy shit? Like, y'all started the whole episode with DaBaby. Uh-huh. He knew where the gun was. You knew he was the artist. And if he didn't have that on him, it's a debate if he's alive.

Okay. Okay. So the artist got it on him. No, no, no. Hold on. The artist has it on him No no no hold on The artist has it on him Hold on hold on You can't knock Rich the Kid

For having it on him So why didn't the baby Why didn't anything happen to the baby What you mean Why didn't Because he had the gun on him The same way that Rich the Kid Had it on him

Was it a legal gun or something When he was at the airport Was it like Why didn't he have any problems I'm not gonna get into specifics Okay I'm talking about A rapper

A entertainer A nigga with money having a firearm on him. Okay. The same thing as Rich the Kid and DaBaby. He wasn't. He wasn't. No, but he was popping in the city. Okay. Which is why niggas ran up on him, because he was popping where he was in his area.

Okay. That's my point. What's their gun loss? What is it? What I'm trying to say to you, though, that's not the same thing as having a gun in an airport. Yeah. What are you talking about? You have to know where you...

He went to TSA. Right. And I started with that. Showed his ID, took his hat off, mask down. You did all this shit? Nah, I'm risked a kid. And then put the bag through the thing with a gun in it. But I think that's a lack and that's a failure

on his team like as an artist I'm just saying you don't say but that's what we've been saying really that's what we've been saying

nah they shouldn't have did that y'all didn't say that y'all putting it on him I mean we're part of Joe's team do we ever go through

his bag to make sure we don't have a team but that's on him don't be a rapper if you're not gonna if you're not planning to have a team

like I met Joe and his refined from what y'all tell me you put it on his team that they didn't find the gun in the bag no that they didn't know that the artist

the investment the asset had a gun on him okay so let me ask you a question let me ask you one question you said you was Joe's driver for a while right did you know every time that Joe got in the car with you with the bag whether or not there was a gun All right, so let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you one question. You said you was Joe's driver for a while, right?

Did you know every time that Joe got in the car with you with a bag, whether or not there was a gun in that bag? Absolutely not. No. So how is that on his team if you didn't know if Joe had one or not? Even if I didn't know, every time I've been to an airport. He wasn't my driver. He might have did his solid. I did my solid job.

Don't do that. Don't do that to me, Joe. That nigga is crazy out here. What does your contract say? I drove you a few times. You put a few miles on my car. But no, if I don't know what's in Joe's bag, there's somebody on the team that I expect to know what's going on with Joe.

But if it's a tool tool y'all in the car oh in the car right in the car then no that's a whole different situation but this is an airport in the car so if you was dropping Joe off

at the airport if you was dropping yo yo say Von drop me off at the airport real quick I'll be a thousand percent honest anytime that I've been

to yo yo open your bag real quick first before you get in this car. Anytime that I've been to an airport with Joe, it's been us traveling together to a destination. You think Keeb says, yo, you got it on you?

No, but I think Keeb or whoever. No one has ever asked me, Joe, do you have a gun on you? Joe, you got it on you? Yeah, you got your ID. Common sense. Did you forget your phone? Common sense. Did you forget your phone? Common sense. But you got to know.

You can't go through the airport with a fucking gun. Absolutely. Common sense. But we're talking about 40-year-old Joe. Rich the Kid is probably close to my age. We hear stories all the time. I've never been caught in the airport with a gun. But that's you.

You're not a guy who's going to walk around with a gun, Joe. But that's you. But wait. So we're not talking about 40-year-old Joe. We're talking about Joe at any point in his life was never doing that. Bro, if you was 20 years old and I was still in the same role that I'm in now, and we traveled together or worked together, whatever, closely, I would know if you kept a gun on you.

Just by being around you. You don't never have to tell me that you have a gun on you. Just by knowing. What does that have to do with me bringing it to the airport? Because there's a team, there's an infrastructure

is what I'm saying. He's clearly lacking that. At 20 years old. So it's not. Like I've been around people who keep that on them. Hold up, hold up. How old are you again?

I'm 27. There's such a disconnect going on with like accountability. Right. And what we're responsible for. What you're saying is that his team is responsible for him having a gun in his bag and going through TSA. And I'm going to strongly disagree with that.

I disagree. When he goes to sleep at night after they arrest him, he should say, this is where I messed up. Not, damn, why my teammate hit me and asked me was there a good how did they let me know go through blah blah blah and the pictures hey wait and the picture wait slow down not for him the pictures i saw it wasn't even a team in place with him when they locked him up and escorted him to a car there was nobody standing on the side to say yo what's going on look it's just it's only him no at this point savon you cannot put this on your team you are responsible for how you travel and what travels with you correct

this looks a mess but i want to highlight it because it's pretty common people are doing this people are forgetting the first time that their gun bag is their one day, two day travel bag. Like I'm not trying to harp on him. I understand how the mistake is being made. You're not the first person to make it.

Have you ever mistakenly been in that position with something else? Like you snuck on someone into your carry on and you landed and you were like, oh shit.

The closest that I've gotten to that, Alex, is checking a bag, getting a TSA, and realizing that something is in my pocket that shouldn't be in my pocket. And in that instance, I can throw it away. If there's a drink in there that shouldn't be in

there, maybe I got too many lighters on me. I feel like a crackhead if I got nine lighters in my pocket. I don't need these as I travel. Shit like that. Even if you want to talk about paraphernalia, now if you go through TSA with some of that,

sometimes they give you a pass. If you go through, they'll let you throw it away. TSA is, you got to remember what everyone's job is. They're not there to spend however many hours doing paperwork on the things that you thought you could get through. Right. But if you have a weapon.

Yeah. Right. That's different. But that's somebody's job to know. It's not you. It's Rich's job. No, it's Rich's job. It's your job.

It's your job. It's not somebody's job. I'm not excusing him. You are if you say that. I'm not saying that somebody else is doing that. If you're saying that that's somebody's job. It is. You are excusing him. It is. We're removing accountability from him. No, I'm not saying that somebody else is doing that at all. You're saying that that's somebody's job. It is. You are excusing him.

It is. We're removing accountability from him. No, I'm not. He don't need his hand held to walk through the airport. I'm talking from a perspective of somebody who's walked through an airport when Joe is the famous person. Joe is the leader. He's the reason that this whole shit goes. The reason that we're in airports flying from city to city.

Because Joe is that guy. And before you get to what you can do to help Joe in any airport situation, how Joe helps the team is by knowing that Joe cannot bring a loaded or unloaded weapon through TSA at an airport. Now we're not dealing with state laws. We're dealing with federal laws. Those are questions that I asked when weed was legalized in New Jersey. I asked, hey, does that mean that you can travel through an airport with marijuana on you because it's legal here?

What if you're landing somewhere where it's legal or not legal? What happens? And people will tell you, well, it's a federal, that becomes federal. And you got to deal with that. And I also want to preface this by saying, you keep saying when we've traveled with Joe on business, we don't know if this is business or personal. Joe flies other places personal by himself. That's a fact. He is responsible for how he travels, when he travels, by himself.

Sure enough. We don't know if this is business or personal. We just only see him. And he made a decision to do something. Or made a mistake. And or made a mistake. Forgot. That is not on anybody

but him right well in that context then you're completely right you're completely right one thousand percent because i don't expect everybody to know what uh what moving parts is going on when people travel when stars rappers whoever the main focus is travel. I don't expect everybody to know everything, but I do expect for at least one person in your corner to have the wherewithal to say, yo fam, no. Even if I don't know, if, if Alex is, if I know Alex keeps something on him that he shouldn't keep on him and he's like, yo, I'm taking a trip.

I'm going to see shorty or whatever he's going to do. I'm going to say, yo fam, we are in this shit together, fam. Savon, in every story. I don't even got to say whatever it is on him. I need you to just do the right thing. But in every example that you say, it starts with, if I know. True. Even outside of that.

Yo, if I know that such and such always carries. Yo, if I know that my man has something on him, I'm going to know that we're operating under the you don't know nothing. So you don't think anybody in his camp, his friends, his best friend, his girl, his mom, whomever, just because you don't see it, you don't think there's one

person in his home that knows that he got that. Sometimes when people want to make a move, they bust a move. That's the part that you neglect. We all got to be responsible for ourselves. At the end of the day, that's all. This weekend, if I want to skate somewhere, maybe a few

of my mans might know, but even they won't know the conditions under which I'm traveling. They don't know if I brought shorts or pants. Or the nine. Or the nine. Or the nine. And the people that love me and are invested in me

I think that they sleep well assuming that I'm not trying to bring a nine through the airport and on top of that if we know Joe going somewhere nobody's gonna be like

even if he carried all the time yo don't take the nine through the airport we think you know not to take the nine through the airport that's your job

that's your job that's nobody's job to tell you not to take a nine through T airport. We think you know not to take the nine to the airport. That's your job. True indeed. That's your job. That's nobody's job to tell you not to take a nine through TSA. True indeed. Yeah. That's nobody's job to remind you to check

to see if that you, yo, yo, double check your bag. Make sure the nine not in there. Mm-hmm. Like, you got to own that. Yeah. Now, kind of strange.

Huh? Hate y'all too. Rather be in Caribbean sands with Rachel. All right. Yeah, yeah. Chill out right there. Yeah, with Rachel. Yeah, my best friend was named Rachel.

I used to fuck back then who Rock on hated on me for, and then I stopped fucking and it was over. But yeah, that was my line. Rather be in Caribbean sands with Rachel. Anyway, Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson accused of sexual assault in third civil lawsuit. I have not read this. I don't know all the details on this. So let me get my ignorant opinions out ahead of you guys and then you guys can share.

Okay. I think this is what happens to black men when they buck the system. Absolutely. Now, that don't mean that some foul shit didn't happen because I don't know. I wasn't there and I'm not vouching for people I don't know. But what I'm saying is that when prominent, valuable black men buck the system, we normally get a mass media meltdown of why we should not support that person. What's the story you guys say? I've read both sides that it may be the Texans. Someone said that the lawyer is friends with the McNair family. I've also read that it may be Deshaun trying to drop his own price down so they have to trade him because he doesn't want to be there

and they don't want to trade him. That would be cute. That's great. I don't know. That's a Joe move. I think both could be valid. You know what I'm saying? It is.

That's a Joe move. I like that move. Either way, I'm saying? And either way, I like that move. Either way, I'm a Mike E. You would. And we're the most talked about team to get them. So when you don't, when you don't do it for the money,

the money don't do it for you. Right. I don't think that this is a money situation for him. I think he wants to get away from Houston. I don't think it's a money situation anywhere because the other. And if I want to get away from Houston, right? I ain't going to just watch Hopkins and JJ Watt reunite in Arizona and fucking be kissing cousins.

And A.J. Green, he's in there, too. Yeah. Come on, man. Enough of this. Enough of this. And it's not a money situation, even on the other side, because I was reading that the accuser, the suit is $500. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Huh. so it's like

it's not money the money's not the motive obviously either way this again i stay away from these particular situations only because without knowing all the information. Nowadays, you have to believe the victim 100% no matter what. If you don't, even if you slightly question, you're out of here. So I prefer to just shut up

and let everything come out and then I preserve my judgment. I'm not as responsible as you. I've been in a few massage hospitals in my life. And I know been in a few massage parlors I totally understand that in my life and I know what happens in the massage parlors

I'll just leave it at that I don't know what's going on here oh these are all massage parlor accusations I don't know see that's even weirder

with crafty and I know what you used to do and when you used to go to the bathroom when we all lived in total together with girls. Who?

You. You who? You. I love you. I love you. You who? I don't know what these gentlemen are talking about. Hey, nigga.

Hey, he said, you who? You who? I don't know what these gentlemen are talking about. True, true, true. They don't worry about it. I know. They don't worry about it, man. Yeah, I don't. I don't know what these young gentlemen are talking about. No, no, no. They don't worry about it. I know. They don't worry about it, man. Yeah, I don't. Prayer's up to the victims if the accusations are true.

And come to Miami, Deshaun Watson. He's getting a check from a team. Oh, he's got a guaranteed contract. He's getting a check. Yeah, he's getting a check from a team. It's fucked up how we handle him versus how we handle Cuomo. Yo. But on the flip.

Nobody feels bad. It's not fucked up to me. But you see this pattern. It's not fucked up. Hold on, let me hear. No, I'm just saying it's not fucked up to me because it looks like there's a motive behind it. Well, nigger in harmony wasn't fucked up to you either. Let's hear it.

Let's hear it. Tell us. Tell us. Tell us. It's not fucked up to me because Deshaun Watson is clearly turmoil within the establishment that he's in. It looks like when I first heard the story, I was like, damn, they got him. I'm like, damn, they going after him. I don't know.

Like, I didn't read the report that Parks Fredware is his team that's leaking this shit. But it's like That may have been a conspiracy theory And that's conspiracy We don't know much about this Like this article came out March 18th Right now we're recording

March 19th Whatever the case is And so I don't know We don't know the facts But it looks nasty As if The organization The establishment

What he's going against Everything that It's very similar To an artist Trying to get off a record label Like fam Y'all are nasty nasty as if the organization, the establishment, what he's going against, everything that is very similar to an artist trying to get off a record label. Like, fam, y'all are nasty and fucked up, and I don't want to be here. So they're going to do everything against him to put dirt on his name. Put stain on him. So that's the mindset that I came from when I watched this. So it was just a nasty situation.

And we don't know. I think to give such strong opinions about something like this, you got to let it play out. Now, let me just play. I hate this phrase. Let me just play devil's advocate here, though. Let's say these accusations are all true and the organization knew about it. They're not true.

But just for the sake of argument, everything's true. Organization knew about it. But because this is our franchise, man, we bury it. not true but but let's just for the sake of argument everything's true organization knew about it but because this is our franchise man we bury it now you kicking back to us we're gonna dig it up you see what i'm saying like we don't know it's just so much we don't know i don't want to just but what we do but what we do know is that the houston texas has referred to the people that play for their team as inmates. And we do know the mindset of who the Houston Texans are and how they view black people and black NFL players when it comes to work. And when it comes to the things that they provide at the end of the day,

the players are the bottom line, but we was on record. Like this is not me making it up. This is not my feelings. We know the owner, the former owner of the Houston, Texas said, yo, y'all are inmates and this is the prison and the infrastructure. So from that standpoint, it trickles down. Let me add on to what Savon says we know. What we also know is what the Seattle Seahawks were offered in a package deal for Russell Wilson.

Yeah. We know that. I read it. It looked beautiful. Amazing. It said three first rounds, rounders, two second rounders, swap pick protection, two starters. It was a lot.

So if that's what's happening for Russell Wilson, and I'm Deshaun Watson, even with these allegations, I still need three first rounders. That's not changing. The price is the price. Deshaun don't care what the price is. He's got a guaranteed contract. You can get whatever. You can trade me for a fucking seventh rounder.

I don't give a fuck. I'm not going to watch Dak Prescott get all that money and beat Deshaun Watson and say, you know what? Deshaun slated, I think, for $40 million next year. Yeah, he got his money He got a big bag last year. That's not a big bag if I'm Deshaun Watson. If I'm Deshaun Watson, $40 million a year, I'm looking around at the other quarterbacks that got that and I'm saying,

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I think he signed the biggest quarterback deal right before Mahomes. He signed a huge deal. Only one problem with that. Then Mahomes signed. I know. I get it. Dak Prescott waited. What do you mean? You want to re-up

the deal now? Maybe not now, but next year. At some point, I'm doing that. Listen, what's the receiver from the Saints? Michael, Michael, Michael. Mike Thomas. Mike Thomas. Or Julio Jones. I forget. Somebody got the big, big extension. Then two years. Julio Jones, Michael. Mike Thomas. Or Julio Jones. I forget. Somebody got the big, big extension.

Then two years. Julio Jones, definitely. Got the big extension. Two years later, he was still balling. Wanted to fix that and adjust it to what the market represents. If Mahomes signs, it changes everything for everybody. Absolutely. Dak Prescott knew that.

Deshaun Watson knows that. Like, we want to see what's going on. Yeah. And if I'm Deshaun Watson And Dak Prescott gets 40 Sorry buddy I need 42 Sorry

At least For me to even Entertain the conversation Listen That's where I'm at Come to Miami Deshaun Watson Stop begging

No I'm begging I don't care Rest in peace To Keyshawn Johnson's daughter That happened as well Really horrific story Prayers and condolences To his entire family Fans Friends Everybody Rest in peace to Keyshawn Johnson's daughter. That happened as well. Really horrific story. Prayers and condolences to his entire family, fans, friends, everybody related to that.

Really unfortunate. What else happened? What else happened? While we're on sports, this is supposed to be. Rest in peace, Yafet Kono, actor from Homicide, Wire. He's in bad movies. Legendary actor. How did he pass? I'm not sure.

He was, I think, 80 or something to that degree. Not to say that that's not still fairly young in this day and age. You got it. This is not a sports podcast, but I will ask you guys this quick sports question, and then we can move on. Okay. You ready? Yeah.

Let's do it. It's going to sound offensive do it it's gonna sound offensive but it's not is Paul George food whoa whoa whoa no let's have some talk

but when you say food let's have some talk I'm not I can't do that let's have some talk when you say food define food

just define I know I understand what you mean by when you say food now we have to define food for the define... I don't... I understand what you mean by when you say food. Now we have to define food for the listeners. For me, for me, because I don't like...

I don't like the tone. I don't like the tone that you're using when somebody establishes Paul George. All right, let's do it. It's not a sports podcast, but when we talk about

the Clippers, we talk about perimeter defense, we talk about Kawhi and Paul George as two of the best defenders, two-way players in the league. And every Clippers game I see for the past two to three years or however long Paul George has been there they put him

on the primary scoring option on the other team and that player looks like he really enjoys it he's not a dog Damian Lillard loves when Paul George is put on him and that's not my first example my first example is the person that torched him, Luka. Every time I see the Clippers play Dallas

and the Clippers put Paul George on Luka, Dallas seems excited. So at the end of the game, when Luka said, and it just politely moved him to the side and drank the floater, Lucas said, ah! And it just politely moved him to the side and drank the floater. I said, alright. Is anybody going to ask do players look

at Paul George as food? You say to that, what? I say, you can't say that. Okay, got it. No, you can't. Say no more. But Lucas is an exceptional talent. Hey, that man is mac and cheese.

And I'm not saying he's food. I'm not saying he's food. I watch Tony Parker, Westbrook, and all types of point guards cook. Collard green. But we talking about point guards. He's a wing player. He's a wing player. And Luka Doncic, his skill set is of a guard even if you

see his change of pace it's of a guard i'm not gonna ever say somebody with his athleticism his height his size his food especially he's established i want to counter what you're saying his change of pace to me is not guard-like. It's like Joe Budden-like. Who, Luka? Luka. It's quick. It's not. It's very. It's in slow motion. All the commentators say, he's playing the game at his own pace. It's really slow.

It looks like slower than I would do it, and it works. It's similar to Paul Pierce. All right, so he's not food. But no. So Paul George is not food. No, he's playing against elite talent. Got it. Don't worry about it.

He's food because Luka sent them packing. No Port Zingas. And he played. But Luka is. They don't take him seriously in the playoffs, so I got to call you food. He's an outlier, fam. There's one Luka Doncic in the last 20 years. Maybe if you want to throw Russell Westbrook with the numbers that they put up.

But no, he's not food. That nigga is Boston Malky. Don't do that to Jeremy. No, you don't do that to Jeremy. I'm talking about PG stuff. Don't be disrespectful. Jeremy Lin is the one.

That's a real one. Let's not do that. We're talking about PG. PG is Boston Malky. That boy is Boston one, Parks. That is a real one. Jeremy Lin is the one. Let's not do that. We talking about PG. PG is Boston Mocking. All right, man. That boy is Boston Mocking. Joe. Let me tell you. This is when I would flag some shit.

This is when y'all look at me and say, yo, flag. That's what I'm doing right now. Wait, wait, wait. We can't do that, bro. Hey, Borey's not here to scream at it, so let me just get my shit over with. We can't do that, bro. Parks is an idiot. No, Parks is real.

Breathe the room, Joe. No, but listen. No, no. I'm going to tell you about why I'm stupid. The fuck? I'm still stupid. And I shouldn't share this. But Parks brought it up, so I'm going to share it.

I'm talking about Jeremy Lin. Parks says, stop Asian hate. I think that is hilarious. No, it's real. It was a segue. But listen to this. I'm so dumb. I, it's real. It was a segue. But listen to this. I'm so dumb. I'm afraid.

Yeah. I'm watching. But don't be afraid. No, I am. Trust in me as your leader. Don't have the nine. He doesn't have the nine. Listen to this.

I'm watching the news all week. Oh, man. Because I watch the news. Here we go. Yeah, here we go news and the news is saying stop Asian hate and I'm like yeah fuck yeah as you should

as you should you're fucking right stop killing Asian Americans I have a heart I champion that but I didn't know why they were saying that I just support that right let me keep talking

I open my phone up mad people online artists I love saying stop the Asian hate yeah fuck yeah African American Asian American stop why are they doing that I am championing this Fuck yeah. African-American, Asian-American, let the fuck stop.

Why are they doing that? I am championing this, not knowing why it's happening. But I saw the story four days ago that said the Atlanta spas are being shot at and eight people were murdered. Rest in peace.

Rest in peace, 1,000%. My ignorant, dumbass brain never took that as an attack on Asians. I see what you're saying. I saw the story. I thought it was foul. I thought it was unfortunate. What lunatic is moving like this? Yeah.

And then I was like, damn. A white terrorist. Fucked up for people that's at the spa. Right. Like, what an idiot, Joe. When I go to the spa, it's a bunch of black people at the spa. It's Atlanta.

I think black people, you say this, I'm like, damn, some terrorist, some American terrorist really had it in on blacks. I see what you're saying now. Right. It took me like four days to figure out, whoa. What is everybody talking about?

Whoa, whoa. Connected the dots. The spas, this is a hate crime. I didn't know who it was a hate crime against. I didn't know if it was the Asians, the blacks. I didn't know who it was a hate crime against I didn't know if it was the Asians the blacks I didn't know and it brought me to there's so much division in the world

that I've had to deal with in 40 years it's getting hard for me to keep up with all the division it's getting hard to keep up with the hate the Dominicans and the Puerto Ricans hate each other the Koreans and the Asians hate each other the whites and the blacks whatever the fuck is going on with classism it's a lot to keep up with but man that's unfortunate

yes like shit well for me i think that it's it's almost like with some of the issues that we face in our communities it's like this was the isolated situation that brought it to the forefront you know what i'm saying so i agree with that this it to the forefront. You know what I'm saying? I agree with that. This may be the example that came across. No, it's not isolated. It wasn't the same spa.

It wasn't, but that's what- It was different spas. There's been a lot of attacks on Asian Americans. But the situation is the spa. There was a thing that happened in Astoria at one point. This is the biggest one.

But this is the one that brings it to the forefront. So that's why as you kind of leading us to where you're going, I'm looking at you like, wait, hold on, hold on. Because just because this is the first one that you saw on the news, the reason that the momentum behind it hit so hard is because this is a thing. Oh, no, I know it's a thing. Yeah. I'm saying I just failed to make the correlation when I heard the story. But I do know it's a thing.

Back to my all of these groups with division i know that transgender hate crimes are a thing i know that that like all of this stuff exists but when you hear about it it's like so much hate and division to keep up with that yeah okay i see what's going on now I see part part of my ignorance and it's fucked up and rest in peace to the family anybody lost their life they're the friends and family of these people like I can't imagine

just losing life this way I can't I can't but every night now when I watch the news it's a story that I can't imagine

really happening and it's just stupid shit like and Brooklyn done it, threw a 90-year-old lady to the ground, snatched her purse, ran off. Shit, I just read a story.

My mom just read me a story yesterday. Happened in Jersey. A woman and her three-year-old son was in their backyard playing. Some neighbor or something had two pit bulls. I guess they got loose, whatever. They came in the backyard, mauled the little boy. The mother's fighting him.

The three-year-old died. The mother's still in the hospital fighting for her life, you know, fighting injuries. They put the two dogs to sleep, but it's like, dude, you in your backyard. And your mother reads to you, right? Your mom read that story to you? Yeah, my mom's read that to me. She called me like, yo, did you hear this?

She read it. that's right yeah hey listen brother nah nah that's right but no no it is it's just wild shit happening yeah it's just and we make jokes but you know our heart goes out to to people that are victims of these crimes. 100%. And then the nasty thing is like if you read this article, what is it, AP News? They describe the attacker as somebody who is addicted to sex.

Yeah. Right. I was trying to say he didn't, race wasn't the driving factor. And it goes back to that. It's like,

fam, you go to a massage parlor expecting something. The entitlement of the experience when you go to a massage parlor expecting something the entitlement of the experience when you go to a massage this is not a happy ending part that's not what the promo is when you go there like in the happy ending shit it's a thing it's legal in certain places it's legal in other countries i wouldn't even know i never did no i'm just letting you know

the research you gotta do the the research but that is a thing this you look like you be getting your ass licked what I look like you be getting your ass licked look like I get no

this place this place this place right that's not what it is you don't know the address even if that is what it is even if that is what it is it's corny

this right here doesn't correlate to that you get what I'm saying that is what it is. Even if that is what it is. It's corny. This right here doesn't correlate to that. You get what I'm saying? Even if that is what it is, I don't care what it is. What are you doing? What is your mindset? It's just like the guy they arrested outside of Kamala Harris' house. Yeah. Is this where we going with it?

Yes. That's nuts. Like, is this where we going with it? Yes, it's the answer to that. This is where they're trying to go with it. Yeah. They feel like this is... That's nuts. Yeah. Well, when they stormed the Capitol, I didn't put it beyond them that they would wait outside the Vice President's house with a rifle. Right. Nuts.

I didn't put it past the people I did. I'm sorry. White American supremacy terrorists. The black woman. That's really what it boils down to. Not just the vice president, Joe. You got to preface that, bro. She's a black woman.

Not just the vice president. 1,000%. But before we get to the black woman vice president, I can't imagine dying at the spa. I'm not off of that. Like I make jokes about when I had a fight at the hookah spot. That was weird. You should be enjoying yourself here.

I'm dying at the spa. But it goes to something that I keep with. And I say this on me and Alex's podcast all the time. Like, yo, control your horny. Like, my thing is, fam, there's two things that's always going to keep you out of trouble. like my thing is fam there's two things that's always going to keep you out of trouble if there's a woman that you're dealing with unfollow her or if there's a situation that you want that's not presented to you go to sleep just spoke about that go to sleep and unfollow that's easy and now in real life maybe it's not unfollow maybe it's don't go to that

establishment so you know that even though you double back to the Denver club when your whole touring party has gone to bed. So you know this stuff. I don't think that this was an issue of him being horny, by the way. I think he's right. This is what she said.

I know what she said. I know what she said. Yo, unfollow her. Go to bed. For me? Don't follow your dick. That's it. You have to learn.

Think with the right head, bro. Right, right. You gotta learn. I don't believe him. I don't believe that for one bro. I don't believe him. I don't believe that for a while. I don't believe any of that. I believe that this is a curse. This is COVID.

This is the hate that has been spewed over all of the Asian. They brought this pandemic here. I think that this right here is all for when we go to court, this is how we get the paint. This person. He's going to be in front of a jury of his peers.

Right. And, oh, I'm a sex addict. And, bro, you went to three to four different spas. That's the part that's sick. It wasn't one spa. It wasn't two spas. This was a different spas. That's the part that's sick. It wasn't one spa. It wasn't two spas. This was a spa spree. Yeah.

And also, if you're too horny, I don't understand how you rectify that by going to shoot up spas. And the workers. Because when you're horny, you don't think, bro. When your libido or whenever your judgment is crowded. Whatever you're going to say, nope.

But I just believe how many times as a man, you say, yo, before I make a decision, let me just get one off, get the nut off. And now I think a little bit clearer. Everybody doesn't have that wherewithal. I'm not giving this man credit for that. Like fam, your horny can get you in trouble. I say that all the time. Hey, let me get my shit off real quick so I don't make a wrong decision.

Nowhere in that equation is that decision killing anyone. Right. I'm not jerking off to a void. But that's you. We just watched. I think it was about a month ago. We just watched a neighbor in Philadelphia kill his neighbor because of a snow discrepancy. Because he was upset that the snow was being shoveled on his property which it

was really in the street you can't predict or judge somebody else's crazy or they're horny in this fact in that situation he was crazy in philadelphia you can't shoot me over a snow removal bro and and it's the same premise with this situation and it sucks because you think if he the busting nut he wouldn't went outside and shot i you think if he'd have busted nut he wouldn't went outside and shot i absolutely believe if he would have got what he what he wanted because what he wanted as a sex addict is to bust a nut and let me say something to you if i'm a killer i can kill you over the snow if i'm a killer i can kill you over the face that you made if i'm a killer i can kill you over over the face that you made. If I'm a killer, I can kill you over whatever the fuck I feel like.

I don't need a reason. If I'm a killer. That's a problem that a lot of civilians have. We start using rationalization over things. But no, this is under the interpretation of what the killer thinks. Not what your good thinking thinks. When the killer says, hey, fam, that's my shovel. You snowing too much. You're on my property.

You gotta go. You have a different issue on your hand. It's not, hey, that's wrong. Hey, that's my property. You're bugging out. It's not that. It's, oh. Now what? Yeah.

Rest in peace to the Asian Americans that lost their lives in Atlanta and love and prayers to all the Asian Americans that are potentially... Wait, we got breaking news. I'm out. We got breaking news.

Whoa, whoa. It's going to be a hot one. It's going to be a hot one. Whoa, whoa. It's going to be a hot one. It's going to be a hot one. It's going to be up. Wait. Wait. wait one second.

You better shut your mouth. Oh my God. You better shut your white mouth. Nice. Ladies and gentlemen, we have word from Saweetie from a tweet from an hour ago. Two tweets, by the way. Yeah, two tweets.

Not just one, y'all. She said, I'm single, period. Come on, give it a voice, man. Give it a voice. I've endured... I've endured too much betrayal and hurt behind the scenes for a false narrative

to be circulating that degrades my character. Presents don't band-aid scars and the love isn't real when the intimacy is given to other women. Sweetie goes on to say, I emotionally checked out a long time ago and have walked away with a deep sense of peace and freedom. Excited for this new chapter of Elevation. Prayer hands emojis. Emojis. Now, this is the exact moment that I've gotten myself in extreme amounts of trouble over the years.

I always have something to say about somebody else's relationship as it relates to their happiness, their breakup, their interactions. And I always tell you how I feel about it. And that's rude. It's inconsiderate. And I've been listening to people and maybe I'm inconsiderate. And I've been listening to people and maybe I'm inconsiderate. So I want to try to change those things. Right?

Okay. But and I pieced it up with Quavo. Quavo, what's up? Migos, what up? P, Coach K. Everybody over there at QC, y'all already know what time it is.

And I don't think that this is a permanent thing here so that's why I'm going to have some fun with it but this hurts this hurts if I'm a dude well I am a dude and I've been here and it hurt way worse than this when she wasn't as famous as Sweetie

but my only thing is this we just called Duke Justin I didn't know this sweetie tweet was coming I didn't know it happened I'm shutting up I'm shutting up I'm not saying nothing

Joe you're famous for this you always tell me you say things without saying things. And so if you feel, I won't say bold enough, but if you feel comfortable enough going on a platform that you know will be plastered around everywhere and the blogs are going to pick it up and social media is going to pick it up and you sit across from your ex. I don't want my present girl sitting across from her ex while we're in the thick of an argument that's saying that's saying something without saying something is what i'm saying and from her point of view

she's letting you know something without saying it i've been fed up yeah i went here and who know what this i'm i can't speak for you you feel what i'm saying like i've seen this before i mean i understand what's happening. All I'm saying is I don't love it. That's it. But I mean, sweetie, they don't know me. That ain't none of my business. Hey, something around the corner.

It's getting hot. I mean, listen, the hot girls need somebody. It's about to be an ill summer. The hot girls need somebody. The niggas home from jail and they're flat. Cardi is, you know, she locked down. Meg is posting happy with her dude they need somebody

I need a beacon of hope yeah you get what I'm saying might be on the song yeah this might you say things without saying things and you gonna go back

your ex look like he miss you like don't I don't like that don't go around your ex look like they miss you you love sweetie I don't know how Rym't go around your ex and look like they miss you.

You love sweetie. I don't know how Rim lets you get away with this stuff. I have no idea. You a fake friend, man. I love you. You a fake friend. That's what they keep saying. Dave.

Dave. That's what they keep saying. Relax, relax. But I mean, Rim likes it. I love it. Rim likes it. I love it. Rim likes it, I love it. To Parks,

it's his credit. He picks and chooses. Levo, I'm sick of you out of one episode. He picks and chooses. He picks and chooses. Listen, congratulations. Well, I'm congratulating him.

We support Sweetie and Quavo. We hope that their relationship is cool. And that's it, man man I'm not the relationship police yeah man listen I know that hurts though that one hurts

oh yeah I'm not losing my chick that just got mad smashed singles yeah and everybody wants her bubbling right now

yeah yeah man gonna send her into a summer alone what's the I Summer alone What's the I just want to know What's the false narrative For everybody Is a dude

Tired of fucking her Well Someone said that That is true Yeah Number three said that Yeah Play with it

Alright I'm out of here Alright what else we got What else Number three said that I know Alright what else we got? What else? What else? Number three said that. I know. All right. What else we got?

Yo, not to go back on the Grammys talk real quick, but hold up. Hold up. Wait. Hey, goddammit. Wait one second. We're done with the Grammy talk, but. Tis like strawberries. Yeah.

On the same idea. Yeah. He won, nigga. He won. This happened. Harry Styles, cornered up. Niggas were like, yo, what's that? Let me let my white boys get their shit on.

Breathe me in. Breathe me out. I don't know if I could ever go without. See, I like that. When some of the songs that start getting national acclaim, I was on that. Now, granted, I was on this late. It was already a hit.

It was already a hit, but still. Still. We're in the middle of it! Hey! Has she heard this? No. Y'all listen to none of the white boy songs At all Wait till the beat drop

Look Justin could never Justin could never Pick one Timberlake, Bieber Pick one Don't do that Don't get him started

You know he brought the cape today Don't do that You't get him started You know he brought the cape today Don't do that You heard him Don't do that Say, bro, what he did on that album It's crazy He champions this But shit's on Beepin'

It's crazy Damn, you hating on Harry? No, never Never, never I ain't got a lot of hate in this blood Hold on Why you kinda sitting down with you? I just gotta hold you

Get it together Just gotta hold you with like You know, hold your feet to the fire, dog Hold your feet to the fire, dog. Hold your feet to the fire. We was just talking about the people over there in the UK. Harry's from the UK. Things ain't right over there. You know what I mean?

I'm just saying. Hold up, man. You making me mad now. Hold up with my song. You making me mad. Turn my God post on while you making me mad. This is the revival. Chill, chill while you're making me mad. This is the rebuttal. Chill, chill.

You're getting me angry right now. This is the rebuttal. You know what I mean? I got to let Post talk to him right quick. Hold up. Hollywood's bleeding. Vampire's feeding. Darkness turns to dust.

Everyone's gone, but no one's here. As soon as he gets to the bridge, we're going to get back to this talk shit, man. Don't worry. Uh-oh. Trying to chase a feeling. Uh-oh. What a melodic genius.

Where's Bruno Mars at? Silk Sonic who? No, Bruno's dead. Don't do that. Yo, relax. Bruno's dead. Don't do that. I'm talking about somebody that's sung live at the Grammys.

I don't know what y'all talking about. I don't know. Uh-oh. I just keep on hoping that you call me. Just relax. You say you want to see me, but you can't right now. You never took the time to get to know me. Anderson.

What's up? We're scared of losing something that we never found. We're running out of reasons, but we can't let go. Was Silk Sonic singing live at the Grammys? Dog. I'm asking you. Was he? What was that? You're being disrespectful. Hey, Alex. Was Silk Sonic singing live at the Grammys? Dog. I'm asking you, Alex. Was he? What was that?

Hey, Alex, was Silk Sonic singing live? Huh? Was Silk Sonic singing live? If I had their numbers, I would call them. Corey, was they singing live? None of them were singing live. Parks, was they singing live? No one was singing live.

Post Malone sung live. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. No, he didn't. You crazy as hell, Joe. You crazy as hell Joe You crazy as hell

Don't ever disrespect Bruno Mars compared to like When it comes to vocalist Don't do that Is there volume on this? No No Fuck outta here

I like that part I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. I like that part.

I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. I like that part. Say something! They sound like hip hop drums. Now it's your ice. Your ice. Now it's your ice. Hip hop drums. Oh, get the- Oh my God. Shut the fuck up.

I said that in your eyes ain't no honest. Hip hop drums. Watch this. Watch this chord change. It is. They don't feel the chord change. Never mind. Pick it up.

Pick it up. What Dua Lipa did? What happened? What Billie Eilish did? Don't worry, man. They don't respect real talent when they hear it and see it. They don't respect real talent when they hear it and see it. They don't respect real talent when they hear it and see it. They don't respect real talent when they hear it and see it. They don't respect real talent when they hear it and see it. They don't respect real talent when they hear it and see it. They don't respect real talent when. Never mind. Pick it up. Pick it up. What Dua Lipa did. What happened?

What Billie Eilish did. Don't worry, man. They don't respect real talent when they hear it and see it. Nah, that's a run. Look, he wasn't singing live. That's not hip hop, bro. Ooh, look. Undertaker vibes.

Back to the crowd. Stop playing with him. Stop playing with Post. Okay. Fuck. All right, we two and a half in somehow there is a lot to talk about but we should go this is not let me see let me see let me see

let me see let me see it's Paul George Kanye West richest man richest black man in American history at six billion dollars let's hit the round of applause for Kanye why Forbes keep hating on him they put that out in the receipts in American history at $6 billion. Let's hit the round of applause for Kanye. Why Forbes keep hating on him?

Well, they put that out and then resented it. Well, they didn't put that number out. They put their number out and said, no, it's not actually 6.6. It's more like 1.6. But that's still,

like, they said because he's, they're counting future profits from the the gap deal hasn't made any money yet so you can't put a number on it yeah nah that's true so

I'm just like don't hate on that man if it ain't made no money yet how can you put a number on it that's what I've been saying what are we doing I'm serious I understand that thinking

is all I'm saying gotcha saying gotcha I gotcha shout out to Kanye West I didn't need oh okay shout out to him B

who else you shout out you gotta bust his you gotta bust his shout out you gotta show respect man you gotta pay like that's love when somebody

even if the numbers aren't real I'm gonna go get some orange, even if the numbers aren't real. I'm going to go get some orange juice. I'm just saying, even if the numbers aren't real, 6.6 to 1.6, that's still an accomplishment. I'll take the 1.6. Because when you look at it, the foundation is hip hop, Joe. That's what I'm coming from. He used hip hop drums too.

What's the richest black man that ever graced earth? Yes or no? Truthfully, I do not know that. So I can't say yes or no. Would you like some orange juice? If I had to give you an answer, I would say no. But I don't know that for sure. So for him to even be in that conversation, you got to show love.

Because it comes from a space of hip hop. We see a lot of billionaires make their money off of tech. We see a lot of billionaires make their money off of tech. We see a lot of billionaires make their money off of investments and other places. When you hear one person outside of Jay-Z, outside of Dr. Dre, outside of the normal

names that you hear, which is only in Diddy, respectfully, which is only a handful of people, when Kanye West enters the conversation, you gotta show up for that people, when Kanye West enters the conversation, you gotta show love to that, bro. Is Kanye West the richest black man in American history with a net worth of $6 billion? That's my question to you. Yes or no? I pulled it up for you.

I just said in my... No. Don't pull up the forms. Thank you. That's it. Now listen. Now listen. The connotation or whatever is implied with that should mean nothing. If Kanye West made $1 billion, $1 million, $6 billion, $6 trillion, it wouldn't matter because we support that. My issue is not with Kanye and all his accomplishments.

He's a genius and he's amazing. We all got that. We don't need a news report on that. My issue is when you just attach a headline that don't have nothing to do with nothing. We could celebrate Kanye without adding a lie so that we discredit Kanye. Kanye is not the wealthiest black

man to ever walk the face of the earth, but that shouldn't be an indictment against him. That shouldn't be like, what are we talking about? That's all. Some of this mass media news clipping shit that goes out is just a little off we've been killing kanye for years with his mental health his presidency run uh kim the divorce amber he's been getting killed for a while i played a huge part in that but you

don't kill somebody for making an estimated six billion dollars you don't and you don't find a way to attach a headline that would make people kill him. He's not the richest man ever to walk the earth, but who cares? Right. Salute that man.

Right. Round of applause. It's awesome anyway. I don't care if it's 9 million. Whatever, just salute him. You think it's.6? Sure. This man was 53 million in debt.

Like 10 years ago, damn near. He was in debt five years ago. Oh yeah, maybe it was that. But what he was saying, he was in debt. I was saying, oh, he's not in debt. Y'all liars. That's a lie. Either it's not a lie or it's a lie.

One or the other. If you're telling me you're in debt, I don't believe you. And I think you're fucking mega rich. Fucking Bailey told me he was in debt after he hit the lotto. Oh, man. I told niggas I was in debt after I got my first little meal.

Yo, man. That went straight to Nevis. Can you believe it? The taxes. They pushed the taxes Neiman's. Can you believe it? The taxes on that. Hey, they pushed the taxes back to me. Round of applause. Hey. Look, everybody got it.

That don't matter to nobody, right? No, no, no. Ain't nobody rich. No, no, no. Ain't nobody rich. No. Ain't nobody got it. It's cool.

I understand. We was ready to pay. We was ready to pay. It's light. Oh, they pushed it back. Oh, lucky them. We'll pay next pay. We was ready to pay. It's light. Oh, they pushed it back? Lucky them. I'm going to pay next year. Fuck it.

Leave me out here. Oh, man. He and him, he was like, yo, man, congratulations. They put the taxes back to May. I was like, well, we still got to pay it, right? Fuck y'all so happy for that. April, May, it has to get paid. Sorry.

Damn, they have 12 cases against Deshaun now. Man. Look at that. Mm-mm-mm. 12. You got to wait for the... Sounds familiar, right? Yeah.

You got to wait for it to unfold. Right. Sounds familiar. You got to wait. How many times can he throw the back route over the shoulder toward the back of the end zone? Every single time from what I've seen. No, those are unrelated. I'm just asking.

Listen, Deshaun Watson is a creep. Get him out of here. I just don't believe the timing of this. Again, like I said. And you can't say that. You can't say that.

Exactly. Believe women. Wait for it. Listen, one of the Cuomo accusers is working for Cuomo actively. Like still? Yes. Yes.

Yes. Oh, okay. So I just want them to get it together before they let me know niggas is creeps. Like still? Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, okay. So I just want them to get it together before they let me know niggas is creeps. Like don't tell me he's a creep

and she's working there. Like protect her. If she needs protection. But it goes back to the Grammy conversation. Like this shit is all staged as smoke and mirrors

until it's proven otherwise. Like for me, when I first hear the report that the biggest and I've heard Nick Wright from FS1. is proven otherwise. Like for me, when I first hear the report that the biggest, and I've heard Nick Wright from FS1. He said this. I know who that is.

Okay. Anyway. Nick Wright from FS1. He said, and this is a sports journalist. He was like, yo, if Deshaun. Is this Nick Wright

with the hair or without the hair? This is with the hair. Got it. New Nick Wright. Incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. New guy, new guy. All right.

He said if Deshaun Watson is in factually on the market or if he does get traded, this would be the biggest trade asset in NFL history. A quarterback that's in his prime, that's in this kind of contract, that's this productive, that's this young, has never been seen. And if you think about it as a sports fan, you've never seen any quarterback be on the market or say, hey, I want to get up out of this situation the way that Deshaun Watson is doing. Well, I don't know because I've watched football for seven years. I don't go back any further than that. Yo.

Yo, I can't fuck with you. I get it. You just gotta let him with you I get it But I get it Yeah you just hear What niggas say I get it This nigga is 24 No trade has ever Happened in the

The Utah I don't know Yeah I don't know that Herschel Walker's Not a quarterback The quarterback has been The most

Luxurious position In the NFL I'm sure Don Shula Was traded or something Before my day I'm sure it was An impactful trade. I'm sure Don Shula was traded or something before my day. I'm sure it was an impactful trade that I'm forgetting about.

Montana was, I don't know. John Elway, shut up. But that's when they was older in their career, bro. You let beef say nigga. I know what I mean.

John Elway didn't get traded in his prime. You don't get to say nothing. God damn it. I didn't say it. Nick Wright did. Go talk to Biebs. Nick Wright did. Nick Wright did. Is talk to Biebs. Nick Wright did.

Nick Wright did. Is there anything else that is really important? We've been talking for two hours and 40 minutes. Damn. And you said you're not a potter.

Look, I'm not. Look, I'm not, man. See, come on. Need you. Well, well, you caught me. What happened? You showed up.

All right. I appreciate that. Drake, first, second, and third on the Billboard charts. Hung out with Bow Wow to celebrate. Soulja Boy got mad. Soulja Boy... Yo, man.

No one else did. Where's Bow Wow? You know that Bow Wow inspired Drake don't do that no doubt of course so yeah it makes sense you call up Mr. 106 if you're Drake

don't do that it's you and Bow but there were more people there nah but Drake said you can't laugh at Drake and Bow if you support Bieber's harmonizing nigga

that's true I'm not laughing I'm stating Drake has said that you and Bow Wow you support Bieber's harmonizing nigga I'm not laughing I'm stating Drake has said that you and Bow Wow I'm trying to think was you even around

for the 106 hour you were trying to put was he even around for the 106 hour absolutely I was I just thought about that right over you it's me and Bow

I didn't hear you plus Bow equals Drake I never heard Drake say that it's the equation he did so I'm just running with it. Yeah.

Well, he flew Bow Wow out to celebrate with him. He didn't fly you out. I was home. Yeah. Hating. Did he shoot you a text or something? No, Soulja Boy was hating. Soulja Boy was hating.

Yeah, Drake didn't hit you and say, you know, good looks? Yeah, nothing. Nothing. What if he did me then what ooh that's fine yeah

we should post it yo who do niggas think I am like I'm not posting I don't want him to celebrate if he hit me

and congrat and said yo man thank you for the support I would say yo I didn't support you is this your way of hoping he hear this and hit you

to support you no no listen brother you. Is this your way of hoping he hear this and hit you to support you? No, no. Listen, brother. Anytime a brother come out, I'm foul. No, but I'm happy for this. What soldier did that? He was angry.

He said, listen, Drake stole my bar. You're not going to congratulate me on this? That's crazy. He stole my whole bar to thank Bow Wow. See, Big Draco still got the smoke he still got smoke for Bow Wow that's all that is that's it I don't have nothing else man I think I'm newsed out

I'm done with news I don't think they need my opinions or takes or critiques or anything I think the culture can sustain itself they can live a couple more days yeah you got to take that critiques or anything. I think the culture can sustain itself without me. Yeah. You got to take that. The culture can't live without.

Nah, nah. I don't want my takes. How about you? I'm cool. You got something? I'm chilling. Let me just check this and make sure. Rest in peace to Reggie Warren of Troop. He passed away. Hold up. Let me play a Troop record while I say that. Here we

go. We gotta explain to you who Troop was. Please do. He was a baby too. You don't know who Troop is, right? I don't. I really don't. How did he pass? How did he pass?

Dead at 51 years old. Cause of death is unconfirmed. How did he pass? Dead at 51 years old. Cause of death is unconfirmed. Back to my theory that as much death as we experienced in 2020, at this point in the new year, we're experiencing the same. Speaking of, the Eric Holder trial is underway as well. Or will be underway on March 25th. Oh, man. You never heard the song, St. Vaughn?

No. This is true. Rest in peace to Reggie Warren. Rest in peace to anybody else that we have lost this year and the year before and the year before that. Let's see. What else is really important? Harry Styles won. Nicki is next.

Friendly man, Solveig Fiji. TV. Let's get to TV real quick before we get out of here. Anybody, y'all seen

Snowfall? Snowfall's turning up. It is. It has been for like three straight seasons. Yeah, but I mean,

like, they hit, what's the season? This is four. Four or five. I believe five. This is five. I think it's five.

No, I'm saying season four, episode five. No, no, I'm talking about what episode it was. Five. Season four, episode five. Like, they hit the ground flying this season. Right out the gate. Well, shit got heck at the end of last season. Yeah, yeah.

You know, usually you get that little slow burn. Like, no, there's none of that. They're not wasting. I haven't seen a wasted shot. Yeah. This entire season. Yeah, man. I am getting a little.

Franklin is starting to unravel, it looks like to me a little bit. Oh, no. He looks like he's trying to come back around. He looks like he's. Yeah. Usually he's all business. Like, I like what Manboy was saying to him at the end of the last episode

I agree with that spoiler alert oh that's how you're I was just telling the episode two days after it aired my bad three days after it aired you should have seen it

yeah you should you should have seen it by then right they gonna kill Franklin and Leon they gonna kill him dude I don't think they gonna kill you too I was surprised

Leon wanna get his hair braided. All right. Yeah, okay. You're going to be pretty dead. You're going to look great. You're going to look great dead. He's like, they're not going to recognize me with the braids. Right.

I'm not going to shave it. I'm just going to go get braids. Right. Franklin was like, moms, why you braided that nigga's hair? Want to go check in? Why you made sure he was good? Snowfall, I'm really enjoying. I also started a show maybe last week, Murder Amongst the Mormons.

I was looking at that one. Where's that one? I settled for it. I think Netflix. I don't know if y'all seen Through Her Eyes. I need a couple more shows. Through Her Eyes. Somebody told me to watch that.

I thought it was cool. The ending was cool. It was a little boring. The ending turned up crazy. Murder Amongst the Mormons, though, check it out. Yeah? Okay. cool. It was a little boring. The ending turned up crazy. Murder amongst the Mormons, though? Check it out. Yeah? Okay.

Yeah. Whoever did it, spoiler alert, the dude that did it, he did that shit. Man, he tricked all of them Mormons. Real quick, when you say spoiler alert, just give it a little pause. Say spoiler alert and then like- Give you a chance to not want to hear that shit. You went right in. and that's just me speaking from the guy

who writes the descriptions like I try to write spoiler and then he's just right there give it like no no no listen I totally understand that can I give you a suggestion

as the dude that writes as the dude that writes the time and shit like that you ready nah I'm ready here's my suggestion to you when you do the timestamp,

you should do it after Erickson or whoever edits the thing. Got you. If you do it first and it edits a mate, the timestamps are probably really off, right? True.

True indeed. Now, Joe's question is, if I never came to that conclusion, how would that have been fixed? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Anyhoo, you guys. Niggas on YouTube like, hey, man, is it me or the timestamps getting worse and worse? And I'm like, nah, they're not getting worse, y'all.

He's just doing it before Erickson makes the edits. Ta-da! Hey, spoiler alert. Tom Sam's going to be really fucked up. Yeah. LeBron is great. I'm going to start watching WandaVision.

I get why people like that. You just started? Wait, what show? WandaVision. Actually, I get why people like that. You started watching WandaVision? You just started? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you at? Wait, what show? WandaVision. Six, I think. I don't know. Six out of nine.

Okay. Now, shout out Disney+. That's a good show. Today, Falcon and the Winter Soldier came out. Yeah, first episode. Which is dope. From Marvel Universe. All that shit is all tied in together.

New Captain America. I haven't watched it, but that's another TV tidbit. And Joe, I think there's a But that's another TV tidbit And Joe I think there's a documentary That you may be interested in I don't know if you would like it I think you would like it It's called

No Eye and Threesome On HBO Max I saw that I saw that Yeah it popped up on my HBO Max I didn't watch it I saw it but I didn't watch it Yeah

I think it's a pretty Dope Especially for somebody like Joe Like There's been jokes about him Being fluid and all that shit Like I'm not gonna speak I didn't watch it, yeah. I think it's a pretty dope, especially for somebody like Joe. There's been jokes about him being fluid and all that shit. I'm not going to speak to his personal life. But... What's going on?

No, in Azealia Banks' prediction, I don't know. I'm not there. So this documentary will help him... No, it'll help him be a little bit more... You know what I'm saying? Come to terms with himself? That's it. This is our new it'll help him be a little bit more you know what i'm saying this is our new cast it's not a cast i'm just talking to the show bro it was a good piece of content hbo max y'all big up hbo max so he's saying that somebody's fluid i should enjoy it

um somebody no no no because you like there's been a like i've reread it i don't know if you reread it and the whole cuck hole thing is a thing around your name. What the fuck is happening here, yo? What is going on, bro? That's a cuck? That's what they saying over there? You know what, Joe? I didn't put that out there.

That's what they saying over there? Yo, don't call me next week, bro. Like, that's not for me to say. Wait. But with that being a thing, I think what is actually happening shows the true elements of, like, the good and bad of relationships? It's a cuck doc? You can't speak on Joe Budden documentary.

Okay. Wait. I hope you enjoyed yourself. I hope you got your line out. Yeah, for sure. That line is never coming out again, buddy. I don't have anything else that is imperative that we get to. I think this was really-

Just real quick. None of y'all watched the Snyder Cut of Justice League? I'm not watching it for our movie. I saw it. Not yet. Yeah. What'd you think? What I walked in and told you, I guess.

I don't remember. That's why I'm asking what you thought. Why they got Batman? All right, never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Wait, wait, now. I'm talking about your boy Batman.

No, no, we good. We good. We good. Go ahead, Joe. All the other superheroes from the Batman. So, you know, they walking with him instead of them flying. Wait, now. Wait, now.

If that's what's happening. But if that's what's happening in Justice League, we're not doing this. Now they don't want to fly in privilege. We're not doing this. If that's what's happening in Justice League,

I'll watch it. Oh, what's happening? If all the superheroes are just feeling bad for Batman, for the rich guy, then I'm down with that. You getting bigged up.

Other than that, I'm not watching it four hours too long for a movie it's broken up into parts though it actually says it well it has the markers on the screen

and it actually will say part one part two if you do want to stop it I don't care I know where to go back to that's all I stopped it

the first Justice League wasn't the best so I'll go back and watch that I'm with you guys go back and watch that. I'm with you guys. You have fun with that. I see what they tried to do with Marvel, though.

The story is sort of similar in them having to find something and get the team together. Get the team together to stop it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw a similarity. Yeah, yeah. You guys have sleepers? No. What you got for us, Joe? Let's do it.

The same shit I started with. I'm on dude. Brand new old ESTG. Dirty Bopper, you know the vibes. Forever, boy. Swinging out the window with them thangs became a routine If you got all beans, you can put fifty in some blue jeans I served him some ready, he came back, this nigga two I pray every day I'm not in too deep with a J-Reed I pray every day that EST don't ever snake me I think every day about putting y'all faces on white tees

I've been up for months, it's on my mind, it's like I can't sleep I'ma drop a million on they block before they take me out Let that Drake squeeze Major Manta Dolphin niggas must thought this was fake beef Who would thank a street where you grew up A place you can't be Shine the light on Louisville Gangsta trappers Y'all should thank me Niggas couldn't control me I'm a boss it made them hate me I had dreams of Rari's racing Quarney on the 10 speed Niggas sell so much dope in they raps and they got 10 G's

Niggas shoot so much guns in they raps, how they ain't kill me? BST, magician team, we turn y'all cops to Swiss cheese Bullets beat the shit out of GMCs, Michael bitch peen I was selling midget bags for 18 like 6 threes I was telling 30 take a break, he said he can't leave I feel you, they swinging out the window With them things, became a routine If you got all beans, you can put 50 in some blue jeans I served him some ready, he came back, this nigga two screens

I pray every day I'm not in too deep with a J. Reed I pray every day that EST don't ever snake me I think every day about putting y'all faces on white tees I've been up for months, it's on my mind, it's like I can't sleep I'ma drop a million on they block before they take me Before I left the hood, I made sure everybody good Never questioned where I stood If it wasn't no line, I drew it I done flew it, I done grew it

I became a connoisseur In my section, I got pulled Fuck that talking, let's get to it Said he doing good, but could apply some pressure to big down one Type of nigga can't even send no blitz cause he wear pom poms Type of nigga ponding all his jewelry, nigga can't no that shit bro He's fast and furious from the crown spot Ten block with a curry shot, 30 got his sturdy cock 55 make y'all go in the hide, niggas rappin' lies Ain't no flow in mine, I'm one of a kind

I ain't hard to find, young street nigga guide Me and all my guys on the Allen's Swinging out the window With them things Became a routine If you got all beans You can put 50 In some blue jeans I served him some ready

He came back This nigga too strange I pray every day I'm not in too deep With a J. Reed I hope these niggas ready Yeah, Ice, I played some rap shit. Pardon me.

Yeah. Pardon me. I was a little shocked. Ain't no R&B nothing. Ain't no R&B nothing. I was shocked. Ain't no R&B today. If it ain't gang, it ain't gang. I like that.

That's it. I like that. Might be some R&B. What's up? You got something? Say Vaughn. Ice got him. Ice got something?

Don't play no R&B. No, I don't play R&B. I don't want to hear no songstresses. This is a cat from Rochester. Class Murder. Class Murder. Yeah. Oh, OK, this is a cat from Rochester class murder and Okay, and murder is winning Okay shit bar cause they've swapped to these dudes not playing with him

They'll stop playing with parts honestly The pre-reserve versus wouldn't have been right without him. Stop playing. Enough of that now. Michael Meary, you ain't gotta ask for my jeans, Kwok Flew to Cali, and I put my team on They say the trap need a theme song I heard the trap need a theme song Trap on my street, trap on your street I'm with it, flew from the East Coast, scored on the West Coast I did it, I heard the trap need a theme song They say the trap need a theme song They said the trap need a theme song

I got your hard guessin' And I'm Dior steppin' I tell my bitch, fuck a PS5 I need more weapons All of you rappers can clap Or cause you thought about dissin' me We turn your man to a pack Now he on sale at the Spins If I rap out it, I does it This trap shit, I does it I wrote this shit when I was on the layover Thirty pounds in my luggage Buy any means, get them back to the bitty

I want them all, ask my plus And I ain't never gon' ask how many And I'm gon' fuck up my profit with bitty And I still fuck with the mail If I got a cent of them, still taxing I ain't your regular artist When I ain't rappin', I'm still rappin' I'm just a weed seller

It got me rich, I ain't sellin' no blow Rappin' in three letters I'ma put on for it until I go like a mirror You ain't gotta ask for my jeans, Cole Flew the Cali and I put my team on They say the trap need a theme song I heard the trap need a theme song Trap on my street, trap on your street I'm with it Flew from the East Coast, scored on the West Coast I did it I heard the trap, made a theme song They said the trap, made a theme song Me a murder like blood brothers Fuck a rapper, I'm a drug runner

My homie told me if he quit today He could charge a hundred for his plug number Street nigga, I don't tell business This the Pyrex and scale business On the 50-yard line with the gang, now I'm doing NFL business A Gucci bag, got a Gucci bag and a little one with a Chanel in it All off Merc sales, nigga So I don't know what to tell, niggas When they cryin' broke, but it's still dope

Try to tell the jokes like Chappelle, nigga Treat the trap kitchen like a jail, nigga Ain't rich as us, then you fail, nigga A Gucci bag, got a Gucci bag And a little one with a Chanel in it All off Merc sales, nigga So I don't know what to tell niggas When they cryin' broke, better sell dope Try tellin' jokes like Chappelle, nigga Treat the trap kitchen like a jail nigga Ain't richer than us, then you fail, nigga Let's go

That's hard. He's dope, though. Was that CJ? Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. He did just drop one with French Ar's dope, though. Was that CJ? No. No. No. He did just drop one with French around, though. For jokes.

Yeah. He loved that CJ, right? No. No. What? It's that beat, which is, and the original beat is better. No, it's the beat, yeah. But the original one's better.

No, it's the beat. The Chicago one. Chicago version. I'm not listening to this nigga. I'm not listening to this nigga. I'm not listening to this nigga. I'm not listening to this nigga. Wait, wait, wait. You're trying to keep talking.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You was not letting it go. Don't let him do it. Don't let him do it. You was not letting it go. You said that shit to CJ? The Chicago CJ. No.

You don't listen to CJ? No, bro. Oh, man. Now you're Serrano. You ain't got CJ. You're Serrano. There got CJ you ain't got Serato got it you ain't got Serato

I feel it I feel it yo wait wait wait real quick before you play a sleeper I feel you cause I felt that same way like I don't listen to CJ

I don't know him I know it's affiliations but then I seen French and Rowdy do something I was like oh do I give it do I give it a go but no

sorry I gave it a go it all sounds. Sorry. I gave it a go. It all sounds good, but no. You can't. I don't believe you. You got to kill somebody. It don't all sound good. We're listening to killers now, man.

Back to the message. Hey, the kid. Go back to the message, man. This decade, the killers are winning. That's right. And if I don't believe you've done it. Well, that's how I am with my rap period. Sorry.

Sorry. I got to believe it. Even if you didn't do it, I just have to believe you did it. I got to believe you've done it Well that's how I am With my rap period Sorry I gotta believe it Even if you didn't do it I just have to believe you did it Yes you would do it It's not like You don't have to Like that's crazy to say

People of a certain age Go by that I think that the younger generation I don't know if y'all go by that The older generation No the younger generation Listen to me That's why this is funny

The younger generation Don't care Nothing about killers They talk to killers Hey Shut your butt ass up Yeah you took a L you call that L

you only got four bodies I've seen that in my internet just patrolling of watching comments I've seen people say to other people you only have four bodies you know what, man? Gotcha.

He's got to let it go. You're going to be his fifth body. If he find you, you're going to be in trouble. All right, what you got to say, Vaughn? What you got? What Beavs did? Actually, I was going to play Justin, but I'm not going to do that. He's a shithole.

I'm not going to do that. Listen, whatever you play is on your own will. And I don't have any. Just because you did that. And I remember, and again, you don't be remembering shit. And even if you do, you're never going to remember the shit that I kind of remember because I'm still on this kind of journey. You was my driver, man.

I don't do that. Nah, and that's when I started fucking with kind of Daniel Caesar a little bit. You put me on to this Daniel Caesar Then I went down a rabbit hole And yes Jules And now I didn't No you didn't put me on there I was there before you

But you'd fuck No Wait hold on No You put bodies on my man Look at that Look at that Look at that man

Look at that man But that's my Alex is my dog Can you play it But no I got you right now Please play some shit Please sorry I'ma keep it there

No I'ma keep it there I going to keep it there with Justin Bieber, Daniel Caesar, and Gideon. Let's see how you feel about that. I like this song. It's called Peaches. I get my peaches from Atlanta, Georgia. I get my bangers from California. She a bad bitch.

I like it. We just going to keep it right there. I got my peaches out in Georgia. Ooh, yeah, shit. I get my peaches from California. This is a fire racist. I took my pick up to the store. I got my peaches from California. I got my peaches from California. Cool, cool, we just gonna keep it right there. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy He is killing this shit. Play that shit from this video. That's not Jay-Z. That's him. Nah, I like him too now.

Sorry. Y'all got the same initiative. That's what it is. That's what it is. I'll be right here with you till you get your time I got my peaches out in Georgia, oh yeah, shit I get my weed from California, that's that shit I took my chick up to the North, yeah, badass bitch I get my light right from the source, yeah, yeah, that's it You ain't sure yet, but I'm for ya All I could want, all I could wish for

Nights alone that we miss more And days we save as souvenirs There's no time, I wanna make more time And give you my whole life I left my girl, I'm in my Yorker Hate to leave her, call her torture Remember when I couldn't hold her I got my peaches out in Georgia I get my weed from California

I took my chick up to the North, yeah I get my light right to the north, yeah Badass bitch I get my life right from the source, yeah Yeah, that's it I get the feeling so I'm sure And in my head because I'm yours I can't, I can't pretend I can't ignore you right from here Don't think you wanna know just where I've been, oh Don't be distracted The one I need is right in my arms Your kisses taste the sweetest with mine And I'll be right here with you till the end of my life I got my peaches out in Georgia I get my weed from California

That's that shit I took my chick up to the North, yeah I get my life right from the South, yeah I got my peaches out in Georgia I get my weed from California I get my weed from California Regardless of what we say, We didn't say anything. No, you said a lot.

You said a lot. Like your little racist tune. I'll take it, yo. I'll be that. I'm going to play some older shit. This is Charlie Baltimore and Ghostface Killing Stand-Up. I'm friends with your gram. I want everybody to stand up and be kinder tonight.

Hey, you, blow your whistle And clap your hands and say yeah Tune my voice up, tune my mic up Tune my voice up, tune my mic up This is how we rock, this is how we rise This is how we rock, rock Hey you, blow your whistle We in the joint, yo, we in the joint

Hey, hey, hey I want all your problems to stand up I want everybody to stand up and get it on it tonight Brothers and sisters, if you know you got your thing together I want you to stand on up Now I got something to tell you I tell you how to think about it And now I want to tell you how to get your thing together

You can't play with this Uh Yeah Yo, yo Yo, Tony, what up? Heard your dick was good You should know, yo I fucked you on the side of my hood

Never that dog from where You can never hit it Throw a raise in my mouth On the low and suck your dick with it The world famous Priceless, still stainless dick Pray over this, go to love, nameless Heavyweight dick in your jaw, good flicking from your lips

Now baby girl, throw the sword Yo Tony, you phony, we both signed a Sony But for half your pub, ride that dick like a pony Yeah, put your money on my dick Girls, pour eyes on my dick Cats fatigued out thinking they armies My crew arms me with beats How we sworn be who bang?

Be more on Wu-Tang, new thang Matter how we do thangs RZA cop me two thangs Official, now I bite through gristle Goatee style limb from Philly to Staten Island While in the meantime, spit mean lines Fuck clean rhymes like mine's grimy Like my niggas be picturing me coming off sore Y'all just cork mean lines, fuck clean rhymes Like mine's grimy, like my niggas be Picture me coming off soft

Y'all just cork up shit, I swallow rhymes Making bitches swallow nines, redefine this rap shit Make my shit a classic like Beethoven Stay posy, for the camera, stamina Like a crackhead and crackheads are amateurs Who drive me no in between like Y to Z Pick brains like lobotomies, so thawed to charred To billboards, pour ill spores, leave niggas stiff like steelborn That's stand up. Charlie Baltimore featuring Ghostface Killer. I got an Alex Sleeper in here too.

This is El Camino Valentino Quarantine. I got Camino. Let me see if this shit load properly. It's probably not loading properly don't seem like it's loading probably loading a little slow there there we go mic check mic check

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I was I was always a gangster with a plan Sold crack, cocaine on the steps Stole the same crib, ran through his lane Way before the fame, I was hitting stage Riding round in a minivan Probably robbed it for your last grace But that doesn't define who I am

And shit, homie, if I ever shocked you It's because you did a nigga wrong And see that You was at a place That you ain't even belong My time is money and I get it more than often Go ahead put em in his coffin If I win then we all win

If I lose I still got a fortune I think I'm getting too rich for Porsches Bitch want a hat no abortions Later on in the league too extortion If I lose, I still got a fortune. I think I'm getting too rich for portions. Bitch, why do I have no abortions? Later on, I need some extortion. Still getting hit in my office. Good thing I got two hoes, that's gorgeous.

Still riding around with my car, baby. I came up living on this. Al Camino, what up? Yep. Go ahead, Alex. That's Valentino Quarantine. Yes, sir. Al Camino. My guy.

Yeah. Listen, y'all. It's him. His name. It's not him. It's him. Yeah. Can I's not him. It's him. Yeah. Can I end this?

Can I end this, Avon, if you don't mind? You can't defend Justin Bieber for harmonizing nigger in hour one and then shit on Post Malone as we try to end. If you accept one, you accept them both. That's what I learned with Doja Cat in post. All these people that scream nigger to gain way into the culture, if they make good music after that, I will accept them. But you, you know what I mean? Doja Cat in post. All these people that scream nigger to gain way into the culture. If they make good music after that, I will accept them. But you, you know what I mean?

So you accept Justin Bieber? If it's fire? Last album wasn't fire. You can't call me a nigger if your last album wasn't fire. Hey, truth of the matter, I'm not really affected when the whites say that. When the whites say nigger. But you was, though, in this document. No, no, no,, I'm not really affected when the whites say that. When the whites say, nigga. But you was though in this document.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no. I'm offended at the audacity, but if you're calling me that personally, it's not time to kill you now because you called me that. I'm a prominent, proud black man.

Right. You can't convince me that I'm something else. Exactly. Got it. But the fact that you said that, and you thought you did, oh, yeah. It was 12 years old. And then you wanted a Quavo feature. can't convince me that I'm something else. Exactly. Got it. But the fact that you said that. And you thought you did.

Oh, yeah. He was 12 years old. And then you wanted a Quavo feature. He was 12, man. Then don't get a Quavo feature. I knew what I was doing at 12 now. Me too. Digging up my nose. I was a big boy.

Digging up my butt. It was 12. It was crazy at 12. Yo, anyway, can I get back to post-mortem? Listen, man. Hollywood's bleeding. Yeah, real singing. Real talent, finally.

Let me turn this up, man. I don't want to hear from y'all. Edit this music out for YouTube. Hey. Don't worry, we're we gonna get to the bridge and we gonna get to the good the verse don't even matter let me hear what the chord progression is like post uh-oh hit um i just keep my heart beating that you call me you say you want to see me but you can't right now You relate to that? Okay. Okay.

No, no, no. I'm asking. Do you relate to that? It's not like you were saying. Like somebody wanting to see you, but they can't right now? I can relate to that. The worst, right? She wasn't trying to get to know me, dog. When she left, you felt like she knew you for real?

Me for real? No. No. So it's a lot of relatability, but you don't like the song? Just a little bit. Listen, breaking news. My baby mama tweets, that shit feels so good when you leave a cheating ass, ungrateful ass, lying ass, selfish ass, dirty dick,

dusty ass, bum of a man. Go be a liberating... Let me hit a little gunshot, man. Go be a liberating queen and leave his ass, sis. You the prize, really. That's my son's mom. Don't say nothing,

man. She think what she want. She think what she want, really. The gunshots, man. That's my son's mom. Don't say nothing, man. She think what she want. She think what she want, nigga. That's that on that. It feel good. Say something. You cheating ass nigga. I ain't gonna say nothing. My only question is, what is the statute of limitations on stuff like this?

I had 97 mentions when I opened my Twitter. It was like, ah, it's coming to you. And I'm sitting there like, I didn't do nothing. I'm just, we great. Everything's awesome. All right. We out of here, man.

Hopefully y'all enjoyed the podcast, man. Shout out to Roy. Shout out to Mo. You know the vibes. Thank you to Ice. Thank you to Savon, Alex, Corey,

everybody that filled in today, man. I appreciate y'all. Anytime. Shout out to Mo, you know the vibes Thank you to Ice, thank you to Savon, Alex, Corey Everybody that filled in today, man, I appreciate y'all Shout out to the fans, sorry we missed last week But we're making some changes over here Uh-oh Uh-oh This is when Corey got mad Hey, when he hit this on the stage Corey got mad, talking about Bruno, Bruno I know, I know

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