The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 435 | "Shaking the Tree"

Episode Date: April 28, 2021

On this episode: Joe, Rory, Mal, and Parks discuss new camera angles (7:20), transparency (11:20), and respect between friends (19:00). Mal shares his thoughts on having other people on the show and what he would have done differently (22:05), Joe believes Rory & Mal didn’t behave as friends (27:35), and the guys voice whether or not they feel respected (32:05). The JBP addresses caring about money (34:00), hypotheticals on the podcast ending (35:00), and Parks & Joe give their own takes on how the situation played out (38:50). Joe speaks to entitlement (45:20), how he felt towards Mal for riding with Rory (57:30), and Mal unfollowing him on social media (1:14:30). The guys share how they feel about podcasting (1:22:30), abandonment (1:26:00), and the JBP fanbase (1:41:00). Julius Randle (1:43:00), feelings towards Ice and Ish (1:43:50), DMX’s memorial service (1:55:05), Justin Bieber’s dreads (2:10:55), Snowfall vs. The Wire (2:17:50), Re-recording songs (2:29:25), and MORE!   For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks: Joe | NBDY - “F.O.E” Rory | Chiiild - “Gone”  Mal | Belly - “IYKYK”  Parks | Khrysis - “Why” (Ft. Problem)

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If your heart is gone, but when you're awake, don't wait my way Get home! Rest in peace Fred the Godson, rest in peace Mac Miller, rest in peace Juice WRLD Almost feels like we've lost too many people Rest in peace to everybody that we have lost Rest in peace to everybody that we have lost.

Before we get started, this show is brought to you by, powered by, empowered by, sponsored by, tolerated by, and put up with by our favorite app in the world, Cash App. Also, you can subscribe to Patreon to check the vibes. And with that said, hey, guys. Hey. Hey. It's been a while. Hey, everyone. Hey.

Hey. What you guys been up to? You know, same old same, buddy. Yeah. How was your vacations? Was that considered a vacation? I mean, of sorts. It was an interesting vacation.

I was just getting my laptop fixed after Joe spilled Jameson on it on it took a while that's that's what apple camera's taking fucking forever so you know i couldn't really pod but my keyboard works that's good that's good to hear well i'm glad they fixed that yeah yeah and i wasn't gonna reach out to you about do you send the invoice no i did not i did not but. But it feels good to be back in the basement, man. I haven't seen Savon in a minute. Seen Scream Man, E, Rem. Still haven't seen Cherzy. I don't know where he's running around. He's hiding somewhere.

Park's got a whole bunch of outdoor furniture while I was gone. Vibes. Summer vibes. We did some musical chairs and didn't even talk about it. I'm sitting on this side. It feels odd. I'm a lefty. I don't really like it.

But, you know. Well, I'm a lefty. I was over like it but you know well i'm a lefty and i was over there ambidextrous when i bought no we did talk about it actually right we talked about it before you guys left uh when i consulted with everybody i was like yo man erickson is something going on the cameras over there i think rory looks prettier than me okay and erickson lied and said that going on with the cameras over there. I think Rory looks prettier than me. Okay. And Erickson lied and said, that's not true. The cameras are the same.

And then I watched some game film. And what do you know? That is why you look prettier. It's here. The color is in the back. It's a different thing going on right here. That's my skincare routine. That's what that is.

I'm sure I look fine on whatever angle it is, even though E has made me look bald and old for years. And then I looked in the mirror and said, hey, Rory, maybe it's not E.

Maybe you're just bald and old. Yeah, man, you go through your IG and think that's what you still look like and it's like, oh yeah,

that was in 2018. You don't look like that anymore. I do need to go give a nice thorough delete to some IG pictures. I do. Because I don't want to misle. I do need to go give a nice thorough delete to some IG pictures. I do. Because I don't want to mislead the people when I go out.

I don't look like I was when I was 27. You two look in great shape. Yeah. Like you guys really hit the gym this month. Like, what happened? Don't look me up and down when I come back. I have more time to you know work out and diet shit like that

that's it you look good thanks man appreciate it you got the cut I got the cut you got the cut yeah man

you inspired me man yeah yeah Parks looks like a whole new human being yeah I feel like a whole new human being alright well yeah

where are we again I haven't seen you since that text when I was in la guardia well i've always wanted to say the floor is yours and i feel like this is like the only opportunity i'll ever get to do that well we can we can start in the beginning i mean you and i spoke before you uh oh let's start from the beginning at the top of the list situations like this go hip-hop uh well you and i spoke right before you addressed uh address the listeners without us and it was a

quick combo i just said you don't get crazy and we'll be all right wasn't mad at that addressing but uh but yeah i guess i guess we could start when I'm walking through LaGuardia Airport minding my business, you know, with my notifications on. Get a text message that reads, hey man, do me a solid. Take the next few pods off. I said, question mark. Joe then says, exclamation point on the statement. I already know what time it is when a man puts the little emoji thing

over his own statement. So I know the spice. And you know, come on, I'm about to get on Spirit Airlines. I don't need that type of karma in my life. You're already paying for baggage. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm paying $2 for peanuts and a water. No fucking way.

So I land and some things transpire over the weekend. Some, some misunderstanding, some, some assumptions, uh, some ideas,

some, some male ego happened, some prideful things, some things were said that were meant, some things that were said that were not meant. And I just stay in Atlanta. It's a good place to hide out. Let things boil over.

I went, I went to magic city. I went to Magic City. I went to all these other places that looked like they had COVID. There you go. I was really irresponsible. Magic City. I was really, really irresponsible, so me trying to be the responsible person was like, well, I have to quarantine

here for two weeks now. Obviously. And we can mask this as some podcast beef while I stay in Atlanta. But from there, I understand that a conversation was had in the backyard and only one side was told. So I'm not going to speak for people. I was not present for that. But I believe that did start somewhat of the spiral and build up from where we've gotten.

So that portion, I'll leave for a second and then come back to my story. Just trying to go in chronological order here. Parks, you were there for that conversation. Joe was there for that conversation. Mo was there for that conversation. I was not there for that conversation. And the few pods I did watch when we weren't here, that word transparency just kept getting

thrown around constantly. So I feel like we should try to stick with that theme because there's always three sides to every story and different interpretations of what happened and things of that nature.

And, you know, I figured we could start this pod. We don't have to make it super lengthy, but I think people have some questions. Sure. And we were quiet when we were trying to figure everything out because when you jump the gun

and do all that corny social media shit, all you're doing is being entertainment for the rest of the world. They don't particularly care. Not at all. They just want to see a bunch of people bicker online for their own entertainment and then move on to the next time

someone else puts their personal life out there so they can bicker about it and laugh. We did not feel like doing that. So we decided to keep quiet in the midst of it. But we're here now. And some things have been addressed. Some things have been, I think, talked about, dealt with.

Clarified. Some feelings. Maul, myself, and Joe met last week. It was a lot of grown man feelings. It was a little uncomfortable. It was a little... And I'm not saying the word edit. It was a lot of feelings for three grown ass men

in a living room maybe necessary but I think uncomfortable for all of us because we don't express ourselves as men especially with friendships not at all

we just know how to argue with our significant other we don't really know how to argue with our friends we barely know how to argue with our significant other let's be clear yeah we're handicapping that too

but but yeah I'll leave that timeline to you guys for that specific part. Well, okay. So after, well,

you text me when, uh, when Joe sent you the text and said that, um, well, you sent me the screenshot of what he said. And then we spoke and I was like, what is that about?

And he was like, I have no idea, whatever, whatever. And you know, from there it was just like, all right, whatever.

So then Joe calls me and he's like, yo, what you doing? I was doing some shit. And he was like, yo, like, yeah,

come to the crib or whatever. But it was one of those weekends I was doing shit. You were looking at apartments, I believe. Yeah, Jersey was just, Jersey just seems so far away when you got shit to do in the city. So I was like, damn, I don't think I'm going to be able to

get out there, but alright. So then I come in Tuesday and so me and Joe start talking about everything. And so we go in the backyard after we had a brief talk upstairs. And that's when he asked you

to come outside. Yeah, I came out to try to mediate he asked you to come outside. Yeah. I came out to try to mediate. Did not go particularly well. Yeah. And, you know, things were said that I wasn't too fond of that I don't take lightly to. Especially coming from people

that you call your friend. Like, certain things you don't say. Certain lines you don't cross with friends. And me personally, your friend like certain certain things you don't you don't say certain lines you don't cross with friends and me personally i was just trying to figure out what the tension was like what was going on for him to feel like texting rory yo don't come in right and i wasn't going to record without rory like this is to me that's corny that's like if we go somewhere and they say everybody but savon could come in and we still

go in. It's like, nah, we out. We all leaving. So I more so was like, listen, if there's something going on with you and Rory, I think we should all sit down and talk about it. That turns into a whole different conversation. And then things are said, and then at that point it's like, all right, well fuck this. And I'm like, I'm out.

Because at that point it was disrespect. And I'm not going I'm out. Because at that point, it was disrespect. And I'm not going to stand in disrespect with my niggas. I don't get down like that. I'd rather just remove myself. So that turned into no communication at all for me. I wasn't speaking to nobody. I was talking to Rory every now and then, every other couple of days just checking in but then it just felt like you know it wasn't a sense of urgency to kind of correct things at least that's how I took it so I was like all right

well then you know it's gonna fold out it's gonna unfold how it's gonna unfold like eventually things get talked about and you know we'll sit down or whatever. But, you know, sometimes you got to let time pass and let things happen in order for that to happen. Sure. So, to me, the one thing I took from it, it was a lot of things that was revealed in that for me. Like, just paying attention to actions and, you know, things that people were saying. Things that, you know, there's a lot of people that expose themselves during that. And, you know, you read a lot of things and it was just fun reading like a lot of the, what people thought was going on and what people thought was happening. Like that was just like, oh, you know, you laugh at it, but it was just, it was telling for,

you know, when you start to see some people say things online and some people saying things and other conversations with people, it's like, like, oh like oh okay i always knew you was a fuck boy but i didn't know to what extent people saying things in other conversations to strangers or to just well just to people in general not necessarily strangers but not like people you really i really know i don't really care people that you thought maybe wouldn't Speak this Speak this way People that You know how you You know how you know people that

It's like We cool But we ain't fly like that You know what I mean And in passing They'll say things like Yo you know Y'all keep doing your thing

And this that and the third And Soon as they see Try to get like you motherfuckers Yeah Soon as they see the first sign of Shit not Working out Or shit going left, you know what I mean?

You start seeing people say things and you're like, damn. I mean, I never really fucked with you like that, but now I really don't. You know what I'm saying? You're invisible to me at this point. Right. And that happened to a lot of people from just me watching. I'm sure. And just seeing things that was being said and watching how people were acting and it was like

you know you start to realize like this this this industry this this this field that we're in is not for people that are cut from a certain cloth man not at all it's just not because niggas don't have morals niggas don't have integrity niggas don't have morals. Niggas don't have integrity. Niggas don't, you know, they do anything for a click or like to make it seem like they know somebody or they fuck with somebody. It's like it was just real weird to see that. I always knew it. But to see it unfold was just like, this shit is corny. You know what I'm saying? And I'm thinking about it like because I know what's really going on.

you know i'm saying like and and i'm thinking about it like because i know what's really going on i'm like no this is real a real issue amongst like a crew of guys guys like friends that that built something together and now it's like you know it's it's just a bump in the road you know i'm saying and it's like okay cool like we'll deal with it when we deal with it but to see how certain people were reacting from that things that they were saying i was like oh yeah like this is why i don't fuck with people and this is why i'm like i stated myself a lot i don't really like being the mix because y'all sit here and act like y'all fuck with us and y'all do this and then the first sign of you know turmoil it's like oh yeah them niggas yeah i knew that shit wasn't gonna work here i knew them niggas was finished there's a lot of that and it's like yo fam what are you

like huh there's a lot of people praying on the like yo fam What are you Like huh There's a lot of people Preying on the downfall Of the JVP I'm sure No absolutely Of course But I knew that Right But to see it from certain people

Yeah To me was like Damn Like you too Like I actually give you Dap in conversation When I see you You know what I'm saying

Like it's like Oh okay So now I really gotta become Like the nigga that walk in the room and make it awkward and don't talk to nobody because all of y'all are fake and all of y'all are secretly getting on your hands and knees praying that shit don't work out and for me it wasn't even about like i told no joe and rory i was i wasn't it wasn't so much about coming back and potting for me you know i could i love it i love what we do i love what we built and and all of

that but to me it was more so like yo is this still respect as friends here like fuck like performing and entertainment like right as friends is it still respect here right because if it's not then let it be that and we can go our separate ways as men and you know it ain't it's not enemies we're not enemies but we just we don't bang like this doesn't work yeah so it wasn't you know on one hand it was like damn i felt bad reading shit from fans saying like damn you know y'all are part of my life like i subscribe to this like you know so it's like damn like you feel bad about that and like i said when we go on the road and we meet people we hear stories and you know you remember that this this podcast changed their life absolutely so so you thinking

about that and i'm like damn i want it to work but more importantly is it still respect amongst us as men and that was my only thing like when we had a talk at joe's house it was like yo listen the business is the business you know i'm saying like we can we can fix that or we can't but as long as respect is still in play, I, as me personally, I feel like anything can be resolved. Absolutely. But if there's no respect,

then there's nothing to talk about. Like, I don't even, and that was the part of the conversation me and Joe had when I left. I felt like there wasn't any, and you was there.

Yeah. And I was like, And I can understand how you felt that way. Yeah, and I'm like, wait, what? Like, okay, like now I don't even know

what's going on. Yeah. So let me just like remove myself because Let things cool off like okay like now i don't even know what's going on yeah so let me just like remove myself because things cool off yeah like i don't even know what this is anymore like i don't know if i'm talking to my nigga or i'm talking to some nigga that i just met like you know i'm saying so now it's like all right let me just leave this alone and let it play how it's gonna play but you know the more important thing is you know as as men you just sit down and you talk and you get your feelings out and, you know, you express yourself. Yeah, I felt like this or I felt like that. And, you know, in that conversation, you start to figure out like, OK, I see where I could have, you know, maybe said something at this time and address something. And maybe it wouldn't have translated over into something else.

I think you and me are kind of similar in the stance that sometimes we'd rather just walk away. I don't know if it's like a Libra thing or something. I don't want to get into astrology or anything. But instead of addressing some shit, sometimes just be like, fuck it, I'm going to go over here and just chill out for a little while and, you know, let's see what happens. Well, you know what it is? Me, personally, man, I'm just, I'm more so of, I observe, I'm observing. And I watch people. Niggas can say anything.

And I'm just a witness to this. People, they'll say anything. But when you watch people and you just observe them, you'll see exactly what's going on and who they are. So a lot of the times where I'm just quiet in the room, it's just me observing and just watching people, mannerisms and things that they know, how they treat other people, how they talk to other people, what they say about people. Because I'm like, damn, if you say that about this person and they're not around, I know I'm being talked about when I'm not around. You know what I'm saying?

You just observe people. So sometimes you need time to step back and just let things happen in front of you and just watch. And this is shit that we talked about. You know what I'm saying? And like I told Joe, I felt a way about him having, and this is no disrespect to ice or or ish like at all but i told joe when we was at the house i said yeah i felt some type of way about you having somebody some other people come on the show it could have been anybody i didn't give a fuck who it was it

could have been starsky and hutch i don't give a fuck who it was like i just it it feels a way because i know how I move And I wouldn't do that I would be like Yo nah fuck that We shutting shit down Let's fix this Let's get this right

If we can't Then we can move on But my priority would have been I'm fixing this with my homies Because this isn't right And we gotta fix this And in that If you can't fix it

Then so be it Okay But You tried Right you tried But I felt the way about that Because I'm like Well damn Like my phone worked And then that, if you can't fix it, then so be it. Okay. You tried. Right. You tried. But I felt the way about that because I'm like, well, damn, like my phone work. I know Rory's phone work. I saw y'all.

I was here when he called you out back. It was maybe a week after the blow up. And it sounded like things went kind of well. You know what I mean? Like I said, it was never, I was never upset about anything. Like I said, that conversation in the backyard just revealed a lot. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, damn. All right. said, that conversation in the backyard just revealed a lot. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, damn.

All right, well, cool. Let me step away. But then, like I said, once I see things moving in a way where it's like, because to me, that's saying something when we built something together and we have an issue and then you tell one of our co-hosts, yo, listen, don't come in. I'm like, well, damn, that's something I think that all three of us should have sat down and talked about before you made that decision. Sure. But okay, cool.

You was in the moment. You was mad about something. Cool. I get it. I know how that goes. But after that, like, I understand the whole the show must go on thing. I get that. That's my next question. But my thing is,

does the show go on without trying to resolve something first? Or does the show go on after you try to resolve? And you seem like, all right, this is just, we're not going to be on the same page.

We're not going to be on the same chord. Cool, let's just go our separate ways. We're not enemies, but it ended. Cool. That happens.

I'm fine with that. Yeah. But I felt some type of way about that because to me it's saying something you know i'm saying it's saying like yo you're replaceable and that may be listen i'm i'm nobody you know i'm saying like i don't i don't ever look at myself as bigger than nobody or less than anybody you know i'm saying so yeah you can get somebody to sit here but my thing is as a friend it's certain ways you handle things you know i'm saying so yeah you can get somebody to sit here but my thing is as a friend it's certain ways you handle things you know i'm saying like when there's years between you

and somebody it's certain ways you handle things like you go about things a certain way you give people that certain respect to be like yo listen let's try to fix this and if we can't then we go our separate way which is i'm totally i've done that before plenty of times like you try to fix it don't work out, move on. But to me, that was saying something. It's like, you would rather put two people in these seats as opposed to trying to fix

what happened and moving on. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And maybe that's just my thinking, but I know how. I think the thought process was part of my interruption, uh, was while things are being worked out, let's continue potting and, you know, ice and ish.

But to me, but to me, that's not that's not how you do things. That's not how you do things, because in doing that, to me, you risk a lot. You risk a lot. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, one, you risk what the show is and what people have come to love and come to support. You risk that. And if it works, it works. Fine. That's not.

I'm just saying, why gamble with that? It's my thought process. Like, why even gamble with that? Why even try to make that a new optic for people out of nowhere? You understand what I'm saying? Like, to me, that's just what I was thinking. But okay, cool. I get it. Pod, me, that's just what I was thinking. But okay, cool. I get it.

Pod, record, do your thing. But to me, I would never do that. Like I would shut everything down and be like, like I said, because it's not like we're just some random people

that just met, you know, at a game or something and just decided to do something. Like it's friendship. It's years here. It's history. It's real life shit

that niggas have went through together. Six weeks would have been a long time to not do anything, by the way, though. Who said it had to be six weeks? This could have been resolved in a week. It could have been resolved in two weeks. I think the time was a little important just because the blow up definitely happened as a mix of all of us kind of reacting off emotion on certain things. So I wasn't mad at some time passing before we continue to react off emotion time like but i will say that conversation three of us had at joe's house last week

it was a pretty fucking easy conversation like it wasn't crazy it did make me think man maybe we could have done this shit like three weeks ago but i do like the process of all right maybe everyone kind of need to step back. Oh, yeah, looking back. It was kind of like when you go get an oil change and then you find out everything is wrong with your car. And it's like, all right, we have to fix this part. Let's fix this part. Let's take this moment to really get this shit back together. And even on a chemistry level, too, because, I mean, this show is based off of actual friendship between all of us.

Yeah. So if that's fucked up, there is no business to begin with i mean there'll be there'll be a business but it won't be as lucrative or successful right so yeah did did i understand joe's text sure him and i had tension i listened back to episodes it sounded fucking horrible sounded like shit the last month was bad we didn't seem like friends it was trash now is there a way for us to go about that, in which we all discuss moving forward on how to deal with that type of shit?

Yes, but... Did we not seem like friends, or were we not acting as friends? I want to be real clear with words. Between you and I, we were not acting like friends, but to, I mean, the viewers, they don't know. It seemed like we weren't. They don't actually know.

What it seems like never matters. Only what is matters. So I want to keep perspective in its proper place. It's not we didn't seem. We didn't behave. That's a fact. Yeah, that's a big fact. Big fact from everyone's point of view and how we were expressing it

and how we were trying to fix that stuff was not the healthiest of ways. No, no. To say the least. No, it's not. But I mean, that type of shit sometimes does take time. If you kind of jump the gun on it and we get back on the podcast, for the listeners' sake,

I heard them when they were like, fam, can you at least tell us something? This is such a big part of our lives. Yeah. It's a big part of our lives because of the chemistry that's here and why it works so well. And if that's not right, us just hopping on a fucking camera,

it's going to get worse than what Joe and I sitting here like, let's fucking fight and don't come to the pod and blow up in the back fucking yard. That's just going to continue. So sometimes you have to give time, time, and kind of work through your own personal shit too and then bring that back to the three of y'all because it's all interconnected at some point. Sure.

So, yeah, I mean, a month, I know in the internet, a month is like 10 years. Wasn't that long. Right. I understand we record twice a week. So much shit happens. But I think a month was a good amount of time for us to try to really get our shit back together and figure out people's perspectives. I learned mesh. I didn't know about Joe and how he viewed shit.

Same with more myself. I didn't even realize how I viewed shit. So it was, it was an important time amongst friends that have been fucking sitting here for going on what our seventh year of doing this shit. Yeah. Sometimes the lines can get blurred between what's a podcast and what's, what's real and what's not.

sometimes the lines can get blurred between what's a podcast and what's what's real and what's not and when you don't address those types of things immediately and find out exactly what that gray area is you end up asking your co-host if he wants to fight on air like weekly that's just what happens so you know i think i think it was a necessary process which we're still working through it's not like it's fucking amazing but you know it was it was a necessary process, which we're still working through. It's not like it's fucking amazing. But, you know, it was a great step for the three of us to kick it at Joe's. And I think we got a lot of shit out, more or less. So, you know. How are you feeling?

Cool. I feel cool, man. It's nice to see you guys again it's nice to have you back yeah i wish i wish i had this whole fucking salacious story of we're back and this is what happened and this is what was said and i was fucking some friends working through some shit some lines were blurred between friendship respect business podcasting and we had to work through it and get an understanding of where we was at to make everyone feel comfortable and moving forward. And that comes first

before we start looking at fucking, you know, contracts and business shit. We got to understand how we're all viewed here, you know, as a pod.

Yeah. I hope that wasn't too political. I don't have a headline for anyone. I'm sorry. It wasn't headline material. I can make something up if you want. Yeah, you should have. No, it wasn't. Yeah, it's't headline material. I can make something up if you want. Yeah, you should have. No, it wasn't.

Yeah, it's not headline material. But, you know, again, I think that it was necessary. I think that, you know, sometimes you need time away from people. Sometimes you need time away from something. Just stand back and just watch and just observe shit and just see how shit plays out. But like I said, for me, it's all about respect. and just see how shit plays out. But like I said, for me, it's all about respect.

Like, I don't care about all that other shit to me. It's just like, you know, layers of the cake. But the foundation, respect, you can't compromise that. And especially not with friends. Especially not with niggas that, you know, have history and you've been through things with and you've seen their character. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because now, in days, there's so much fake shit going on. have history and and you've been through things with and you've seen that character right you know i'm saying because now in days there's so much fake shit going on like when you when you got real niggas in your corner and real niggas in your life you gotta bro keep them man because

these niggas out here it's a lot of fake shit going on and that's why for me that's why i said it was never about you know know, the business, whatever. Like we could work that out or we can't. You know what I'm saying? But respect, as long as respect is still in order and respect is still there, you can get through anything. There's nothing that can't be resolved as long as you respect each other. And that's why for me it was like, yo, is there still respect here? Cool, yes.

All right, then we can move on. We can fix this. So do we all feel mutually respected in the room? Yeah, I think so. I mean- I can speak for me. I do. I can speak for me. Yeah.

I mean, we spoke. We spoke at Joe's house. It was a lengthy, lengthy conversation. Yeah. And that was my only concern. And that was my concern with Rory. He'll tell you the whole time we was talking and texting. It was like, fam, it's just about respect.

All that business shit, that can be taken care of. To me, that was even corny. I don't want to talk about... What are we talking about? This is supposed to be the easiest shit in the world for us. We're not those dudes. Yeah, to me, this is very simple. I don't even like talking to my brother. for us like we're not we're not those dudes yeah like this is to me this is is very simple it's

like i don't even like i don't even like talking to my brother like about like he manages me but like i feel like shit that we deal with we could talk about it you know i'm saying like it's that's where i'm at with it and maybe that you shouldn't like i said i think that me and rory a big part of our mistake was putting the friendship before the business a lot of the times. And when you do that sometimes in business, shit can go left. For sure. So you got to take, so I take some accountability for that. You know what I mean? Like, all right, cool.

I see times where shit, I've been like, you know what? Let's keep this business because if we continue to just put the friendship first, sometimes shit can go away. And then you look back and be like, oh, damn, well, I thought this and I thought that. And it's like, well, damn, like you never said nothing. So you take accountability for that. But to me, even in that, it was, I didn't even want to talk about that. That was corny to me. It's like, I don't want to talk about numbers and business.

It's like, what are we talking about? This is fun. This is supposed to be easy. This is supposed to be, I get it. One day we looked up and we had a massive audience and now people want to invest money into it. I get it. But for me, it was all had a massive audience and now people want to invest money into it. I get it. But for me, it was all about sitting here kicking it with my friends and laughing and

busting it up about shit that we love, music and the industry and shit that's going on and business. Once the money comes into play, to me, it's corny when that starts to affect things. I don't care about money like that. I've had money. I've been broke. You know what I'm saying? I've known niggas that had millions and are broke and they'll tell you like fam as long as you got people that love you around you and respect you it don't even matter

when you a kid growing up you don't have no money you don't know nothing about money you with your homies your cousins you you having fun you live in the best times of your life real shit to me that's what this is supposed to be but it's like okay we getting paid for it but i don't want it to affect the friendship and the respect that's corny to me and i whatever i gotta do to avoid that i'll avoid it yeah and that was kind of going into that conversation that the three of us had at joe's where it was like all right the pod gotta end that's cool things end that's part of life like that's part of the process that's not the end of the world if this ends but if it ends off some avoidable shit that we could have fixed that maybe all of our egos or all of our pride or you know certain just man shit stops it that's corny then

if it's got to end on some real issues cool that's that's just life but right yeah ending on some corniness just that i couldn't see myself doing that you gotta try to work that shit out when he spoke he was like yo fam if we not podding anymore cool but I wanted to be over something real I don't want to be over business

I was like fam it's not even about that for me I'm just talking about respect shit Rory was talking to me about. I'm like, fam, I'm talking about respect. Niggas just hit my phone. Yo, don't fuck up the bag. Fuck that money, nigga.

I don't give a fuck about a bag. I can get a bag anywhere on this planet. I'm talking about respect. I don't go where I'm not respected. I don't hang out where I'm not respected. I don't fuck with niggas that don't respect me. Period. I don't give a fuck about no money.

I don't give... That was never a thing for me. I don't care about money. I don't put stock niggas that don't respect me Period I don't give a fuck about no money I don't give Like that was never a thing for me I don't care about money I don't put stock into money like that Like Some of my best friends are broke But they will do anything for me Same

You know what I'm saying? Like I don't So money is not I don't care about money And that's That was the one thing that was annoying me That people kept texting me And kept calling me

That's what everyone thought I'm like fam I don't I don't care about money And that was the one thing that was annoying me that people kept texting me and kept calling me. That's what everyone thought. I'm like, fam, I don't care about money. Stop talking to me about money. Like, I don't care about that. I'm talking about respect. That's all I'm here to talk about. And people understood.

Like, oh, okay, then I understand your stance on that. And that was it. Royce, love him to death. Like, he called me FaceTime for hours. Shout out to Royce. And my thing with him was, yo, I'm just talking about respect. Everybody keep calling me, talking about money and business. I'm talking about respect.

That's it. You know what I'm saying? And anybody that knows me knows that that's all I care about. I don't care about money. You know what I'm saying? That's not what I put everything on. It's good to have money, yeah. It's good to make money, yeah, absolutely. not what I put everything on it's good to have money yeah it's good to make money yeah absolutely but when you start talking about friendship and respect and you know people that you thought was

in your corner it was you know going ride and hold you down I'm not talking about money when it's come to shit like that I don't care what niggas got in their pockets I don't care what niggas got in their accounts like I don't care about and yes that's where we fuck up in male friendships is we just either assume shit or don't say a fucking word and things can get cleared up real easy and perspectives can get changed very quickly too once you understand what someone else is thinking and we just shut the fuck up and just hope things will change or oh i'll catch something that'll make me feel better about the whole situation and i learned that through this whole month like yeah amongst male friends we got to talk more like and kind of immediately like we need to get on to and i really fuck with that

and do it not in the male way that we do things as far as like you know anger or emotion or you know to fucking machismo shit like no it's, it's just, let's talk, man. We're actually friends. We actually respect each other. We could talk about this shit. It's easy. It's way easier once you strip that whole fucking pride and ego shit you have. that, that should never tear down.

We've seen how much that's torn down so much shit before. Like, it's so much easier to sit, to just sit and be like, yo, this is how I feel. Right. And I know that's easier

said than done and it sounds so simple but it's way more effective than the other shit but yeah I think that kind of

summed up where we was at yeah so I think how how everyone was feeling before we all actually spoke in the midst of

that hiatus and us not speaking. Where are you at with it, Joe? Tossing it to Parks. What do you have for me? I'm tossing to Parks. Well, Parks, I mean, you and I

were speaking through the whole ordeal. But we did never kind of get into like where you felt the being the in between person of this. I mean, it was awkward. It all started. We had a chat after the pod and everyone's kind of saying they were a

little burnout and you guys expressed a lack of clarity and some business things, which I expressed to Ian and I told you I was going to, as you walked out the door and then shit hit the fan and I'm of the mindset that the show goes on we employ quite a bit of people here and everyone makes money stopping the

show for an extended period of time while everyone works out their issues to me doesn't really make a lot of sense so I understand why y'all feel slighted by that but at the same time people need to earn a living myself included oh no i totally get that i don't understand why they feel slighted by i mean i do because i'm listening like i hear feelings

no i mean i was let me ask you i was understanding of the show going on let me ask you to a question i'm kind of glad we're here though though I'm mad that we're here. But since we're here, goddammit, let's get to it head on. Let me ask you two a question, right? Because things, listen, I am used to being the butt of a joke. Let me start there. Nobody has been laughed at in their career more than me. Let me tell you guys that in my head,

I get a good laugh sometimes when you guys laugh, people out there, because I don't know if you would laugh if some of this shit happened to you. So my question to you gentlemen is this. What did y'all take it to mean when Jay-Z said to me at Highland Ballroom or whatever event that was that we were at?

Hammerstyle. So what? Tuesday Palooza. When he said so what to me, what did you two gentlemen take that to mean? How did y'all process that? What was the context in the so what?

Yeah, retell me the story. I mean, I know it's there, but I forgot. The story was, look at Hovengers, found a way to link Hov into this. The story was, throughout my career,

I've said a lot of really unsavory things about that man. Mad of it. Mad of it. And he to you. So? So what? I, the part that I played was,

I've said a lot of shit that maybe I could have said different. I could have moved different. I could have done something different in my head. Maybe justified it maybe I was like yo but when you became the president and then my album got pushed back and then remember you it took my beat that was my beat that was my first single and then yo even in the front when you was like yo give me that beat for yo and you said Skank Skank was my A&R at the time like yo and then you said J.R.R.R.I.D.A. did this with marijuana, and the marijuana was a thing for me. I spent however many years getting you, Maul, to attempt to reconcile that. You remember?

A long time, right? That was a prominent conversation in our home, right? Mm-hmm. And we went to try to execute that, and it didn't work for a lot of years, right? That was a prominent conversation in our home, right? And we went to try to execute that, and it didn't work for a lot of years, right? Years. Say the years. A lot of years.

And somehow, a few years ago, the three of us end up at, where was it? Do say Palooza Hammerstein Ballroom. Hammerstein Ballroom. Hove is there. The three of us are there. And that was that moment we were looking for

at the 40-40 that time. And the bowling alley. And the bowling alley. And the bowling alley. All of the times we tried to get an apology, this was the moment. I waited 14, 15 years

for this moment. And know what he said? Before I could even finish my grievance. Are you trying to give him your grievances? We were there to talk about it. We was laughing, we was having a blast. And he said, hold on, hold on, I got some grievances I got to get to you. Say, yo, man.

It was a fun little area. Yo, man, the beat bagger took that beat. Hey, before I could get the word beat out, he said, so what? I panned right to you, Maul. Know what you did? Had the biggest laugh of your fucking existence. Oh! Whoa!

A ball, right? Mm-hmm. Rory, you too? I laughed it's funny he's a sarcastic person delivers his sarcasm well

but what did it mean but what did it mean and what did y'all take it to mean I don't want to come off like I don't think I can come off

any more insensitive than the public probably believes me to be but probably because instances like these so sure I don't think I can come off any more insensitive than the public probably believes me to be. Probably because of instances like these. I don't want to be insensitive and I don't want to gaslight, but as you gentlemen speak, I hear all in my head saying

to what? It's different. It's a perfect example to me. No, it's not. You'm asking how y'all... It's different. It's a perfect example to me. No, it's not. Give me more. I completely disagree. Give it to him.

You didn't build anything with Jay. Y'all weren't friends. Y'all not friends. Your chemistry and actual friendship didn't base on the ability for you, Jay, and Def Jam to put out music. Yeah. It was completely different.

Jay didn't owe you nothing. Us, the three of us, all owe each other something because we're friends. What do you think I owe y'all? Uh, as friends, uh, I think, uh,

back to the respect thing and, the understanding thing and, and in the entitlement thing, what do you think I owe you, Rory? Oh, just as I'm not talking anything outside of friendship. And that comes down to respect.

What do you owe someone in front of the mask? Respect down to respect and communication. What do you owe someone in front of a mask? Respect and communication amongst each other. I owe that to strangers in the street. A different level of it. Not really. Yeah, it is.

Not to me. Okay, that's you. Do you owe strangers in the street respect? Yes, more. I respect people in the street as I go about. That's how I carry myself. The same level of respect. That is how I carry myself. The same level of respect.

That is how I carry myself, yes. That's not what I asked you. I said, do you owe them that? A stranger. Do you owe a stranger respect? I freely give it. Do you owe a stranger respect? No.

Okay, so then you can't say that to my friends. But you don't. You owe friends respect. I don't believe that. Yes, you do. You don't believe that you owe your friends respect? I don't believe that. If it's one thing I've learned throughout this, I'm never going to expect anybody to move how I move.

So that's fine. If you don't feel that way, that's fine. I'm just telling you the way. And Rory, the word owe speaks to entitlement. And I don't have entitlement even in my friendships. I am appreciative of my friends. You owe your friends respect. I am grateful for my friends.

And because of that, my behavior just, I mean, I would hope it exudes that, no? You owe your friends respect. And then in this case, when you're friends, you built something with your friends and your friends have built something with you and have created something with you and have grown something with you. Absolutely. You owe them respect. One million percent. There's no way around it.

I feel I feel I owe my friends respect. Me personally, I feel I owe my friends respect. That's why they're your friends. You respect each other. You respect each other. Which is also why I apologized once we started talking about all our tension and took some accountability of how I was moving with certain things. I explained where they came from, but I took accountability and saying,

no, I do owe you that respect where I should not sit here and say that to my friend. I should have went to my friend and said, hey, not feeling what's going on here. I don't want to get caught up in semantics, but even as y'all speak the word, oh, bothers me. That's cool. I don't have a friendship where I feel like I am in debt which is kind of to my next point that I've shared with you gentlemen

but we'll share it here complete saying everyone internalizes things differently so even when you talk about respect that would have to be processed through everyone's individual processor right sure so you could you could be receiving respect and feel like you're not yeah right well yeah yeah how people perceive things and how they internalize things and you know different experiences in your life can have you and the line and the lines can be blurred sure in friendship and business yes and people value things differently than their friends do i take offense to maul saying the show should have stopped every time he say it i'm a i'm a fine Why? With him saying the show should have stopped

Why? Explain Well I dedicate my entire life to this End statement This is not something Where I come in here twice a week And talk for a few hours,

my entire life's work lands me here, what are you talking about day one, I don't view the days the way that y'all view them, this is a life series, all of the yesterdays, let me get my shit off, All of the yesterdays, let me get my shit off. All of the yesterdays got to today. When it's your life's work, you don't leave it that way. You don't just leave it to chance. You don't just leave it up in the air with some of the ways that the three of us have handled communication. You do not do things that way. That's how Joe views it. The show has to go on.

I don't have the luxury of sitting in my feelings. I don't. Joe feels a lot of things to the people that might not be aware. I feel mad shit. At no point am I at liberty to come in here and just have feeling vomit. Me. I ask you gentlemen my next question. What other place in the world can this happen?

What other place in the world can y'all leave some shit and then just return to it like Joe this happens all the time and let's also give the facts of everything let's not mislead the listeners of what's going on you and I spoke not in a healthy way shortly after

the whole text message thing and I think we went dark for one episode prior to after the thing in the backyard thing and I think we went dark for one episode prior to after the thing in the backyard. You and I spoke and the conversation was, hey, everyone go in their

respective corners and let's try to figure out what's wrong with this show and what we can do to fix it. So do not say, don't try to mislead these listeners

to think that Mo and I just said, fuck this podcast and fuck everything that we've built and left it was a conversation that we had did we did the three of us handle it improperly 100 taking mad accountability that is what happened but to say you're not taking mad accountability if you leave out the fact that that is what happened we're not talking about your intention we didn't all agree that we were going to take a second and if you want and you came back cool i'm not even on the side of the show should have just We're not talking about your intention. To say that we didn't all agree that we were going to take a second.

And you came back, cool. I'm not even on the side of the show should have just stopped. I'm not mad at that shit. I'm cool. I get both perspectives on it. But it wasn't something I was focused on. I was focused on how we could get the four of us back together on this fucking podcast. That's where my focus was.

And I think that was apparent in the conversations that we had, conversations I had with Maul, getting things correct in the most timely manner possible. And no way was this abandoning something that anyone had built for their entire lives or invested in their entire lives. The conversation that you and I had, and it was, yo, everyone get in their corners.

This might be necessary. So I'm not going to let you mislead people to think that Maul and I just abandoned ship on some shit. Like it's just not what happened. There's only one problem with what you're saying. We did what we said we were going to do. They were there. What do you mean?

I don't have to mislead anyone. And that's why I want, I want to provide y'all the space to say anything that you feel you need to say, not only to, to, to, to the, to the viewership, whoever that is.

I don't know who's out there. But there's an audience that you left. That's a fact. We don't have to go talk about the why and the whens and, oh, fuck. Nah, dude. You're going to wait. Yeah, that. Yeah, that. You're going to wait. Yeah, that... Yeah, that...

That happened. Am I... Am I off? Yeah. That happened. Niggas had to scramble, right? No, I understand an audience was left in... Niggas had to scramble to keep together a multi-million dollar outfit.

Yeah, we friends. And yeah, we cool. Yeah, niggas don't give a fuck about any that money that shit don't mean nothing when maul say it know why because he's saying it to a nigga that don't give a fuck about money know what you know where you can get that from from my actions you ain't got to check joe tone hey none of my friends ever got to listen to joe tone about nothing i got a long credit history with all my friends that leads me to the next part that bothers me about some of the things that you just made which point of

when when maul's saying that repeat what you just just just said i want to make this clear right before right before that oh you asking me fuck my memories do you abandon the show oh yeah facts oh okay i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm explaining to people Right before that. Oh, you asking me? Fuck, my memory's... Did you abandon the show? Oh, yeah. Facts. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My memory's back.

We don't need to explain it to people because they was there. Hold on. I'm saying he feels a way that, okay, the show went on with other people and you saying we had to scramble to keep this shit going.

Okay. When you're viewing it and again, perspective, none of us communicated, of a show continuing, it doesn't feel like it's a priority to fix shit. So yes,

when Maul says, when I saw two people come on now, get that. Wait a second but and that's my thing you're right you're right whose job is that to check before we shake the tree i'm asking you job to check what i'm asking you i spoke to you and i'm asking you i don't know what you're talking about okay i spoke to you said let's all get in our respective corners like that's why this is kind of semantics man to me do I understand

that you wanted to continue the show and need to continue the show contractually with other advertisers and things of that nature we have a bunch of people here that

make a lot of money off this podcast fully fully fully understand that then address your thinking that I should make a phone

call to people to say hey you can't pay your rent this month. I never said you should do that. Because I need to go get with Rory and Maul to see what's going on with us, with the three of us. I never said you shouldn't do that. Tell me what I'm supposed to say to the people that keep calling the phone that I'm turning down the business for when they say, hey, what's going on?

When I walk into my dad's house Sunday morning for breakfast and now my fucking family is asking asking what's going on those are things you have to factor in when you shake the tree no am i off yeah but do you understand why the tree was shaking though i don't i don't think you're skipping over that part give it to me respect if i'm not lost if i'm from yeah i'm talking about for me respect yeah all right let's put it like this if slaughterhouse you haven't beat for slaughterhouse internal issues business whatever and they go on and they bring in saha and let him record on songs that you want to take your verses off and go on the tour you wouldn't feel some way about that you know you know the man that i am i'm it's a shame that this this stuff don't get reported to the public but you know the man that i am because i's a shame that this stuff don't get reported to the public, but you know the man that I am, because I thought that it might be a problem with me not wanting to be a part of

Slaughterhouse anymore, I retired my own career personally. No, but I'm asking why you were in it. No, no, no, but that's the answer. No, no, why you were in it though. Not when you thought about retiring. No, no, no, you're missing thought about retiring, but that is no, not when I, no, no, no. You missing what I'm saying. I wasn't thinking about retiring. I started,

I started something. Me. I started something. It stopped being fun. It wasn't the most valuable and some other things were going to place. The business wasn't right. Blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah. Like some things happen. And rather than say, yo, fuck niggas and go put out three albums a year i just stopped so that's who i am no okay so when you asked me what i would have did yeah you wouldn't feel some type of way about that i always no no you're lying

well you spoke to royce so you could call all i got is my history you i'm the person that called royce and suggested that sahi joined that's who i am but what i'm saying i'm tired of my character being just spoken about the wrong way i'm talking about niggas received those calls i'm talking about if you had a just listen what i'm saying if you had a a situation in the studio while you're recording and y'all had an argument whatever and you like yo some things were said to you and you like you know what alright cool

I'm out you felt like niggas disrespected you they said some crazy shit to you and you was like yo you know what I'm out if you

if Saha was on the same album the records you were on two days later and they took you off of that you wouldn't feel some way about that? they they did that and you didn't feel no way about that? they did that and you didn't feel no way about

that and i tucked it i'm asking did you and i tucked it i'm asking did you and i tucked it did you feel any way about it yeah but if we're having a feelings talk i started this with i have a lot of feelings about things i'm just asking you i'm talking to y'all about the feelings that adult men have to not only tuck i understand that but express and deal with that's what i'm talking about i totally understand you niggas left your job, more. That's not what happened, Joe. Joe, you looked me in my face and told me this show was none of my business. Yeah.

That's what you told me. I was there. That's not crazy to you? Is that not crazy to you? If you say no, it's no. Like, I'm not here to put how I'm designed on anybody else, bro. I'm asking you. Well, if it's one thing

that we should have all learned from this is you can't do that. Okay, yeah, absolutely. You can't. I'm just asking you. If somebody told, it's something you helped build and pushed and didn't,

and never really argued about shit, just kept looking, fuck it, let's keep it moving. Let's keep doing what we're doing. And they tell you years later, yo, this is none of your business i don't think i should have said that to you i don't think you should have said that either but i'm asking you if someone i also do not think that that was should it should have been because i don't get to speak uh what should have happened what what did happen i don't think it

should have been the domino that you sitting here saying that it was. But I can't tell you how to feel about some shit. That wasn't the domino. That was like, oh. That was the oh. Oh, okay. Maul, you rode with Rory before that. How you think I looked at that? What you mean I rode with him?

That was the oh. About him? About you telling him not to come in? About him anything. About you telling him not to come in? Of course. About him anything. Of course I'm around with and i

would like you to speak to i want you i'm not dealing with him right now i'm looking at you and i understand i want you to speak to what that means he's our co-host that fucks up the chemistry of this whole thing if you if you remove him if you remove you if you remove it fucks up the whole chemistry that's what you're not understanding well i hate to be the guy to break it to you oh let me not say that because that's not true i feel i hate to be the guy to break this to you i don't foresee any world in the world where you're supposed to rock with rory what i don't how do you figure that and let And let's clear it up on my perspective there. How do you figure that?

Hey, I'm in a pod. I'm in a pod. Let me be clear. I'm in a pod. It's Rodney for the show. I'm in a pod. You looking nuts. No, no, no.

I'm looking nuts? You sound nuts perceiving it that way. It was Rodney for the show. Yeah. It wasn't even about Rory. It was about you telling our co-hosts not to come and record. That was nuts to me. Rodney for the show? Yeah. Like, that's not, it wasn't even about Rory. It was about you telling our co-hosts.

Like, it was nuts. Not to come and record. Like, that was nuts to me. Like, riding for the show is making sure that 30 or however many people that are attached to the show are okay. That's riding for the show. No, riding for the show is obviously two people that are a major part of the show have an issue. And you telling one of them not to come in. And now I'm sitting here like,

the riding part would have been, yo, let's all get in the room and talk about this. Let's talk about what's going on. But you're telling him not to report. So you don't even see a world where that even looks funny. You don't even understand that. No, because it wasn't, what you're trying to paint it to be is not what it is.

For me, it was simply like, yo, fam, that's our dog. Oh, wait, time out. I don't want your- That's our coach. All right, stop, stop, stop, stop. Because I don't want this to appear like I'm trying to paint it to be it's not what it is for me it was simply like yo fam that's our way time out i don't want that's our cause because i don't want this to appear like i'm trying to paint it away i'm trying to get y'all to speak to what things look like from a perspective outside of your own i'm not trying to paint it that way so i don't want it to come off that way i totally get it but what i'm saying is you saying me riding with Rory is nuts. I ride with anybody I fuck with.

I ride with any, like, if you wrong, you wrong. I don't care if me and you are best friends. If you're wrong, I'm going to tell you you're wrong. You was wrong to tell Rory not to come in and record. That was wrong.

That was wrong. You should have never done that, bro. That should never happen. Who should have done it? It should have never been said. You can't tell Rory don't come in and record. Parks. Well, I actually would like to hear Rory's perspective on this because he kind of agreed that he shouldn't come in and record.

No, I agree. Yeah, but he agreed because he was agreeing. Let me finish. Go ahead. When I got that text initially, I was like, all right, it probably has to do with our tension. And after the exclamation point on the text and all that i'm like i'm not fucking with this dude right now i'll hit him in like a few days then i got more information from people that wasn't him about things that had to do with me and him and more and i was like all right this is

getting super weird it's so much third party shit going on here i don't even operate this way and i got on my private shit too so i'm not hitting him. Fuck that. So, did I agree that we needed to talk or maybe taking some episodes off might have been a better idea because those last few episodes were super trash with the tension that we had. It was just bickering. It sounded bad. Agreed. But that is a conversation

that needed to be added. And that was Maul's point the entire time. Maul was not riding specifically Rory, whatever. It could have been any other person that could have been here for the last seven years. It's riding for the show. That's why I didn't even look at this as some like fucking I'm riding with you, you riding with me. This is teams within our team. It's not that type of shit.

We ride for the overall goal. Did we go about it wrong? Hell yeah. That was wrong. That falls on everybody. And that's one thing I do with all of my niggas. I don't care. I tell you when you're wrong.

Like fam, that's wrong. You went about that the wrong way. You shouldn't have said that. You shouldn't have done that. It wasn't about riding with Rory. It's about being on the right side of the of the situation. That's foul for you to tell Rory not to come in and record. And even more to his point of riding, you and I didn't even really have real beef. Like we had some disagreement and some tension. It wasn't a division where people had to choose sides and we was out here like nas is that's not the right way to go about this listen man i'm just designed if you're wrong you're wrong and i'll tell you when you're wrong and you was wrong for that if you call that riding ferrari then okay call it riding ferrari i have no problem riding for parks riding i've rode for you like i have no problem riding for niggas when I fuck with them. But I'm going to tell everybody that I fuck with when they're wrong.

And you were wrong for that. And then to compound that, you saying what you said to me was really nuts. I'm like, wait, hold. Now I really don't know what's going on. You tell Rory not to come in and record. And then you tell me this show was none of my business. I hate to be, I don't want to make it uncomfortable by saying this. business i hate to be i don't want to make it uncomfortable by saying this but i am the person that is supposed to tell rory yo dog you should chill for a few you can tell rory that if that's

something that all of us talk about it's a conversation like that's the part you're missing that's that's something because now i'm sitting here there's no co-host the chemistry is just oh now if he's sick, that's different. But then when you know it's tension and it's an issue and then you tell somebody not to come in. It was tension for months.

Neither one of you niggas called my phone. I'm talking about when you... It was tension for months. But when we had this talk, we tried to set up... It was tension for months. We tried to set up a date.

Long before you inviting me to your hands. I agree. It was tension long before... Which part of that narrative where do you have to stop? Because you kind of started that, but it's cool. It's on tape. What the hell? I agree. It was such a long before. Which by the way, that narrative, we do have to stop because you kind of started that but it's cool.

It's on tape. What the hell? I know. I was just the second person to say it. Start right now and saying that we should square up

and Joe stop running from Rory. It's not important. I don't want to fight you. It's all love. Everything is cool. Yeah, but listen man,

there's an art to shaking the tree. But see, and then even you saying I look nuts riding Ferrari, that lets me know that I'm just built way different from niggas, man. But that's okay. It is okay. That's one thing I learned in a lot of this. Is that, yo, I'm just built different. I'm not with this. I'm not riding with that.

That was crazy for you to text Rory that. And then when he asked you what you meant, you didn't even offer an explanation. That was even more nuts. My ears are like, this... Somebody else... I don't know what to say to that. Okay, well, you don't know what to say, but you know who you're talking to. You're talking to Maul.

And you know how I'm designed. I don't give a to say to that. Okay, well, you don't know what to say, but you know who you're talking to. You're talking to Maul. And you know how I'm designed. I don't give a fuck what nobody else thinks. Then nobody else thinking affects me at all. I know that I'm right in what I'm saying. You telling Rory not to come in, and then with him trying to ask for explanation, you giving him the exclamation point. It's like at least,

you didn't even want to tell him why he shouldn't come in. You didn't even want to have a conversation then. And so then when me and you have a conversation, then you say what you said to me now i'm totally confused like all right what the fuck is going on you understand what i'm saying so i'm so if you say ron for no i don't understand because i sent rory and and told him what i thought needed to be happened to salvage friendship and business immediately after hitting roryory, I hit you. And I hate that I have to go down this timeline because to me, so what still? But let's do it. Immediately

after I hit you to say, pull up on me and let's talk. That was a Saturday. You told me you were coming. You did not. Yeah. Sunday, you hit me. You said, my bad. I was coming. You did not. Right. Monday, you didn't hit me at all right and then tuesday you show up to our our our place of business to have a conversation when we should be working about why i asked rory to stay home yes well to me that will never make sense, that will never make sense. Okay. That will never make sense. The courtesy and the friendship vibe was me hitting you so we could have a conversation about why I thought this needed to occur. That was the last ditch effort. That wasn't like the first.

That wasn't me. That wasn't initiating trying to troubleshoot. That was the, oh the oh shit wait a second wait a second shit is off in here it's conversations going on it's rumblings walls and streets is talking it's fisticuffs it's a lot going on the shows is trash it looked bad that was a lot going on now whose decision was it to weigh all of the things that were wrong in that moment i should leave that to us yeah the three niggas that didn't do no communicating to the mumps leading up to all of this shit no yeah no that's

one and two i'm back to my car fax with niggas i didn't need this moment to know that i am built differently than other people but what we will have is our friend history with everyone individually forgive rory i feel don't yell at me and don't get up to hit me either say it i'm chilling bro if you're ever looking for who what joe's character looks like all you got to do is look back in the last 15 years. You don't need him. He didn't exist. He wasn't there.

Nothing about Rory exists in the world that I'm talking about with you. We have X amount of years living together in confidence. I don't need to say what goes into that. You and I know what's going on. We should never be talking about a rory ever but this is not one of those instances where we go to the club and somebody can't get in this one of the instances where oh the other side to this if we not friends and it's not feeling friendly in here is i'ma treat it like it's not friendly in here yeah but which ain't

right which ain't right stop no no no no no no wait let me finish getting my shit off let me finish getting my shit off boy you niggas peed me all let me get this out of me let me get this out it's all rory don't get to question how i ride neither it's not something you got to think about it's not something you gotta freestyle and try to imagine we got a few years joe show up it ain't nothing to check books about it ain't nothing to check podcast they bond accountant look at the footage about joe show up i think it's corny to remind niggas how i show up but if you look back Joe show up for you having nothing to do with him

and same for him y'all don't get to tell me I don't respect y'all of course y'all have feelings so you can tell me that and I'm gonna appreciate it I never said that I never said you didn't respect me I said based on our conversation which you said yeah more but you know

a question where the respect was and I apologize for that you did and I apologize which you said yeah Maul but you know a question where the respect was but whatever and I apologize for that you did and I apologize and I'm doing it again and I'm doing it again understood

and that whole riding point I'm not saying you're wrong and saying you two have your own separate history you and I have our separate history the three of us have history

Maul wasn't riding for your friendship and his friendship or my friendship and Maul's friendship or your friendship and my friendship it was riding for the show so i see what you're saying of yes have you shown up for me all the time i showed up for you all the time yes all this and that you guys

got fucking two decades in no we're just talking about the show at that point that's it we're not riding for any personal history it's a hey this show is starting to feel a little fucked up we should talk about it now did the three of us handle that incorrectly again i'm repeating myself yes that's why i think a lot of this back and forth shit that we're doing now is kind of yeah but that's because it's separate points to what really happened but it's not pointless there's some poetic justice in it and that's why earlier i was like yo tell me any other workplace in the world where this chain of events could happen because we start at y'all questioning maybe my friendship or my respect level right or just some things that should exist between us right and then we end with having to lean on that very same friendship

to say all right all that other shit that wouldn't fly nowhere else in the world it can happen here because that's my man that's not odd i mean we've we've done that for i'm not gonna talk to maul because me and maul don't come from corporate shenanigans and workplace stuff you though that's where i come, though, tell me where that can happen at. You tell me. Come on, I don't want to make it sound like I'm talking Spanish. But I don't know what you're saying in that capacity. You say that in another job you couldn't storm out and come back six weeks later.

I've gone through all this with Palooza that's also a multi-million dollar business of friends having these same types of problems so yes you can say there's a corporate side of shit but we ain't corporate and neither was palooza did we partner with corporate people sure but that's not how the infrastructure of our shit went bad example no it's great example horrible this will never stop well palooza stopped because of covid this will never stop was my words so it's a horrible example there's not a world that exists we didn't stop because of uh my statement is not about palooza i don't care what you niggas do i'm talking about this this will never stop it's y'all's to participate in like our fucking contract says and there's no uncomfortable conversation and me and mark i have that change what we legally bind bound to do i said that to

y'all privately i'll say it here too sure there's nothing y'all could say to me i said this in your absence there is nothing a friend could say to me that ends the friendship i need to see more no you have to do something nigga your character gonna have to shine but your words that's not joe that's not to diminish anybody that that happens for it but that's never been who that's never been and me and nor is it because we sitting here talking about it we we gave the the history of the last month of where people felt on certain things and when we was trying to go through shit. We sitting here now

because we feel the same fucking way. If it was just based off, if Maul really felt like you saying this show's not your business, you think he'd be sitting here? No, he knows it's his business. Rory, and this is where we just view things differently on friendship.

Because Maul and I are friends or call ourselves friends, I would have thought we could get to the friendship conversation at any point we're friends which is what i called from park's backyard and said yo dog if you never pod again we gonna talk i said that i'm consistent in my no i didn't say that to you? That's all I'm saying, man. I want y'all to speak to... Actually, no, I don't want y'all to speak to.

I want Parks to speak to what happens in alternate world if things did not go this way. It could have been bad. It could have been bad. Hey, y'all can choose now for it to be understatements if you want. Give Savon a mic then. Give Erickson a mic then.

Give Alex a mic. Give the accountant some mic. I love it. Give the lawyers, give everybody a mic. It ain't time for understatements. That's how Joe's rep takes the fucking hits. Every time. Because it's understatements.

When miraculous shit is going on. It is miraculous shit. I went to therapy with Rory. my off day with my fucking kid. What are y'all saying in here? I want to hear where else you could have that type of smoke with not with the with the person at your job that is responsible for the job. Leave it and then go to therapy for the problems and come back. That's the shit

that won't get spoken about. But why? Like, I commend the niggas that came. Thank God. I never saw the day that y'all would not be here.

I never saw the day when you would look me in my face and tell me this was none of my business. I never saw that day. Is it look me in my face And tell me this was none of my business I never saw that day Is it your business And a contract that we have? Fuck that contract I'm talking to you

See Cause I don't You talking to a nigga That don't even Cause you know why? Because you talking to a nigga That don't care about contracts And I'm talking to a nigga

That's on record saying No you talking to a nigga That you lived with For probably over a decade What I'm saying No you not talking to a nigga That is talking with for probably over a decade. What I'm saying. No, you're not talking to a nigga that is talking about contracts. Let's keep me in my proper life. I'm talking to a nigga that don't give a fuck about contracts as well.

Bingo. That's true. So we not talking. Me and you are never talking about contracts. That's why I be mad at you niggas. Like I told niggas, I'm not mad at niggas shaking the tree. Like please, I will never be mad at that. It wasn't about shaking the tree.

Word. This is what you're missing. Get quiet through the whole shit. It wasn't about shaking the tree. Roy, shut up. Marlon followed me. What are you talking about? You know why I followed you?

What are you talking about? You know why I followed you? Come on. No. We spoke about it. I would like to hear why you unfollowed him. Me too. Fam, this nigga was posting all this corny shit with the show.

This shit was looking nasty, bro. I wasn't trying to see that shit. It was looking nasty, bro. It was looking nasty. Facts. I'm just telling you what it is. I didn't want to see that. I didn't want to see something that I had a hand in building looking the way it was looking.

Just being honest. It was looking bad. So I'm like, I don't want to see this shit. So I'm following him. It's simple for me. I'll tell you what it is. I don't have

none of my actions. I'm going to tell you why I did what I did and when I did it. Simple. You still following me? Yeah. I was on record

and Morgan said Tim and I had conversations I didn't like any of the social media shit I said to you and to both of you stop with this this is gross

but I didn't say nothing on social media it would just there'd be tweets from everybody I didn't like it I thought it was corny I thought it was weird

I didn't think we were those type of guys like shouldn't well I can't ask you that because you said the show should stop I understand I was about to say so niggas. Like, shouldn't, well, I can't ask you that because you said the show should stop. I understand.

You got it. Yeah, absolutely. I was about to say, so niggas shouldn't have tweeted their fucking. People go, listen, there's world-class entertainers that go through this type of shit. Shows have stopped. Live tours have stopped. Like, it happens.

You don't just pick up and put two random, and I want to say it again, love and respect the ice shins. I fuck with them. Those money. But you don't just pick up random pieces and say the show must go on without trying to fix something. That's not how it works. So you're saying, oh, we had this. There's people that generate billions of dollars of years that have gone through the same exact shit. Same exact shit. Some of our favorite television shows go through the same exact shit same exact shit some of the our favorite television shows go through the same exact shit the star of the show isn't happy with contracts and this that and the third they don't just start production and filming the show without without them they try to fix it and if it can be resolved

it's resolved if not okay we just got to try to find a way we the person moved they're writing the story or he moved somewhere he's no longer living in the city whatever they try to make anything happen Martin when him and Gina was going through real life shit they filmed without them being on set

they was never in the same room they had a job in different cities you find a way to but you don't just put new people in a spot and say oh this is him and this no

that's not what happens you can stop production on something you can stop filming something it's not the end of the world would it I don't think it would've took six weeks not based on the conversation we had a week ago i don't think it would have took that long but i'm just saying you're saying something

when you do that you're saying something when you do that and we all know what that's saying and again i don't know i don't have an ego bro i don't to me that's corny shit that is ego no more no it's not the exact definition of ego of what what you're saying of me saying that i don't i don't care if if if you record and move on i'm just saying that i think that it would have been better to try to work it out the same way you scrambled to try to find somebody to fill in i told you that's the same way you should have scrambled you don't think you don't show up to a bunch of uh potential meetings to try to work things out how how is he supposed to feel but joe we were supposed to have a meeting before all of this happened and he canceled before so it happens sure it happens you understand i'm saying like but my thing is when you try to move on

and put two other people on the show that me and Rory helped build that's saying something what does it say when you leave what you helped build I understand what you're saying I just want you to speak to the other side because you agreed to what I said and what happened I left it we had a we had a conversation even when you and I were not on good terms we spoke because we both care about this fucking podcast you said hey yeah we were sitting up in in your upstairs room yo everyone go in their respective corners let's figure out what each of us want out of this shit and let's let's let's try to keep it as timely as possible at this point i even think that's a valid question i sent you i sent you let me tell you y'all want a pod i sent you what exactly i was feeling on that with a list of certain things but oh this

is easy we get all this shit done like we was on that with a list of certain things. Oh, this is easy. We get all this shit done. Like we was on the type of time of keeping this shit moving forward, even when we was on bad terms before you and I started working through our bullshit. Like it was still like, yo, all right, what's going on with this? This is our shit. So I cannot let you tell these listeners that Maul and I abandoned ship because it's not what happened. We agreed. You and I sat there, say, yo, let's get in our respective corners.

It's better this way because there's a bunch of tension on this podcast it's gonna sound like pure fucking shit if we agreed then it wouldn't be the problem you're telling me now that i abandoned the fucking ship and we both agree that we should the three of us should figure out what we try and do within this pod and let's do it in a timely manner too like that's so easy i abandoned ship then i'll take accountability when i when i left here i'll take that but if you think that you was gonna look me in my face and tell me this show was none of my business and I was going to record, you got more fucked up. You know that wasn't happening. That was never happening.

Nobody can never talk about that. I think it's unfortunate that that's all you heard in that conversation. I heard everything. I'm not going to assume that. You might have heard everything. You might have heard everything. That, to me, though, nah. You can't tell me.

Me? You can't tell me that. You can't tell me that you can't tell me that you can't yo i'm with you i shouldn't have said that to you but if i say that to you and then you leave and then don't show up for the next however many weeks and then somebody else sit down and do an okay job you can't get mad at that i wasn't no no no i wasn't mad that's not that's not what i'm at or you can't that's not what i'm at you can't have no smoke for the people that come sit in. I don't have smoke for nobody. If I had smoke for niggas, niggas know.

No, you don't smoke for niggas. I'm saying you tweeted. You had a few moments. Who? On Twitter where you had to, you know what I mean? It don't matter. I didn't have smoke for nobody. I don't have smoke for nobody, bro.

Now, people may have said things, and I may have just like laughed but that ain't smoke for no reason are you guys come on let me get to the tough questions man are you guys are you guys unhappy overworked underpaid

oh do y'all hate me like this story come on get to it we gotta get to it like we spoke like we spoke but if we want to

we asked them for them if we want to answer it here if we want to answer it here my issue was simply respect and transparency when it came to business that was it that's all

I didn't have an issue with nothing else nothing else my issues are very short respect and transparency what's going on with the business why have we never seen this

why have we never seen that why we don't know what's going on with this why we don't know what's going on with that that was it it was that simple for me it wasn't nothing deep Why have we never seen this? Why have we never seen that? Why we don't know what's going on with this? Why we don't know what's going on with that? That was it. It was that simple for me. It wasn't nothing deep. It wasn't nothing like that couldn't be resolved, spoken about nothing. Like I said, for me, shit went left when you said what you said. That's when my energy changed.

And it was like, OK, well, cool. This is so not the song. Or is it perfect? Mic check, one, two, one, two, mic check, one, two, one, two, how y'all feeling out there? Crazy! Hey! Oh, God. Mending their feelings. Oh, my God, man.

I told... This is what... And a lot of that, for people listening, is kind of just a rehash of a way longer six, seven-hour conversation that the three of us had last week. We're all in a better space. I know it sounded like maybe we're still mad.

We're cool. We're cool guys. I'm dissecting this damn. You could throw out a 9 million think pieces. Will they make it? The network is failing. It's all bad.

Respect and transparency, bro. That's all i'm ever talking about how do you feel about podcasting as like a profession i think this is super dope that's what i said to me this is it for us to even have issues in this is is crazy because this to me this is the easiest so now for us this is shit that we was doing before it was even a name for this shit exactly so now how do you both feel about being those guys now the guys did beef when money came around well we weren't beefing around

yeah that's us that's not us that's not us that's not us that's not us doom doom doom yeah that's us respect and transparency brought up a dollar that's all i'm kidding that's us doom doom doom that is not us that's not doom doom doom yeah that's us respect and transparency brought up a dollar that's all i'm that's all i'm ever beefing about if i feel like there's no respect and no transparency that's it anything else we can we can hash that up and i'm never beefing over money never it either is or it isn't over money never it either is or it isn't that's all respect respect man that's all if you have respect you have everything even when you dead broke if you have respect for each other you have everything y'all niggas are gonna be okay two broke niggas as long as they respect they're gonna be all right it's something they're gonna find a way the money just you know that's that's that's

when it becomes if anything the money is what's gonna kind of sort of reveal a lot of things for you they always say you want to know who your friends are sit at a table and put a bunch of money on the table and watch the conversations that happen doesn't change you just makes you more what you already are that's it but as long as you respect each other like that money should have worked itself out so what you think i'm more of now what do you think no let me hear yes and don't let me hear don't don't go on bridget and i'm gonna send stuff nigga sit here those weren't subs towards you though I know that was a theory but that had nothing

to do with you boy I thought that was sly this nigga went on my girl podcast on my network said fuck your network and I don't care about

Biden suck my dick I said oh shit and more than I think I'm calling this I called him Monday night here you good no you can't do that man

that's not oh such man. That's not. Oh, such a liar. That's not what you did. It was filmed. He engineered it. How was it? You engineered you calling me on Monday night? No, no.

That never happened. You're just making shit up. You did say you don't like podcasting. That's the joke. He embellished it, obviously. That's a joke. He said that. No.

He said that. That's a bit. You clarify first. it, obviously. That's a joke. He said that. No. He said that. That's a bit, you know, like. Oh, but you clarify first. Let me clarify that. Get to it. I thought I made it clear, but we always, you know, we never understand how people are going to take things we say. Am I passionate about podcasting as in I want to go out and create a whole bunch of podcasts

and start a network and grab all these other talented people that I think would be dope for podcasting and put them together and then maybe me start a bunch of other podcasts. Like, that's not where my passions lie. Am I passionate about this? This business that we created together? Am I passionate about you guys?

Am I passionate about this shit? 100%. I don't feel like you should be able to say we created it together if you leave it so freely. We've addressed that. I know.

And you've agreed with it and then danced around it and then agreed with it again and then did more semantics. So I'm not going to address that anymore. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Let's please kill that narrative because I don't want- Yeah, like that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And you agreed with it. That's not what happened. On air just now. He engineered it. We didn't abandon-

We didn't abandon our podcast. No, we did not. Things were said. Things were done. And don't fucking do that. You know what the fuck I was doing behind the scenes scrambling trying to get this shit.

You got some nerve too. I know, Rory. You were scrambling. You got some fucking nerve. And my point, and I don't want y'all to think it's me, but yeah,

you have to view things from every angle. Yeah, you were scrambling. I thought it was great because you kept in communication with mom, me. I was trying to get every last thing

that needed to be addressed, addressed and done in a timely and respectful manner because accountability took me a little while, took me a few episodes to listen. Accountability to me is not just saying

take an accountability. Accountability to me is within actions. So if there was something that I feel that I wronged in the podcast and I can only, I'm only responsible for my actions. I can't speak for anyone else's. I have to do my part to fix what may, I deem something wrong I did within this podcast. And that was within actions. We could talk all fucking day.

Yo, I shouldn't have done that, man. But let's try to fix it. And again, if we can't fix it, it was a good run, guys. But we at least owe that seven years to try. Come on, I'll ask the tough questions. Damn, I forgot the fucking question. It was a good one.

What did you just say? Accountability, behind the scenes jumping shit abandoning you dancing could the friendship have been uh fixed if y'all never returned to the pod yeah yeah okay like i said it wasn't about it wasn't about the pod Like I It wasn't about that I told y'all Straight up Respect That's all I wanted to know And I asked you if the respect

Was still there as friends Alright I will not That was all I wanted to know I will not Overcomplicate matters Yeah no It's nothing to overcomplicate I mean

We owe it to the listeners What happened And you know Long story short That's what happened and you know long story short that's what happened that's what was being spoken about behind the scenes um but yeah no we didn't abandon anybody we didn't we didn't think it would take as many weeks as it did and and to be clear joe was the one that said a month on the show he gave that timeline that wasn't the i didn't speak to him about a month rory didn't speak to him about a month. Rory didn't speak to him about a month. That's something that he said.

So it was like, okay, cool, whatever. Niggas got my number. My number work. Is it respect? Yeah. All right, cool. That's all. Simple.

I'm simple, man. I don't complicate nothing. As long as niggas respect me, we got any conversation in the world. Okay. Look at us. Can't wait to see what those timestamps read like over here. Don't go get some water now. Shut out the Creed, man. Did you feel that same way when you left Complex?

Did you feel that way way when you left Complex? Did you feel that same way when you left Complex? Did you feel that same way when you left Complex? What'd I say? Did you feel the same way you said in what I'm going to call semantics of you saying, yes, we employ people on this podcast. There is a staff here that relies on this money the same way all of us rely on money for the from this podcast when you left complex i know there was i do know there was people there that were probably not complex employees they were you know uh 1099 just you just you getting hired for for

that specific thing and i remember everyday struggle to be to be a pretty popular fucking show. Did you feel that same way when you left? Well, same way. There's a lot of people that rely on Everyday Struggle right now outside of myself that have built their career around this. If I leave here, maybe they'll miss a steady paycheck because it was an everyday show. So I'm sure a lot of people that were gaffers and camera guys or whatever that was a consistent paycheck it was like all right i can't even take gigs right now because i got to do this shit monday

through thursday i'm glad you asked that let me clear up a common and i wasn't coming to ask you i'm just curious if you thought i would never feel like you're coming at me coming at me here's the kicker i never left complex I never voluntarily left complex I never said yo I'm not coming into work at complex that's not what happened at all at complex I understand that when I come in here and that's what I'm saying about there being an art to shaking the tree I come in here and I go on these rants and you pull from it what you pull from it but if you pull the wrong shit then you missed the whole thing altogether. Rory, before that complex job started, it was a Monday through Thursday thing.

And if you paid more than we could do Fridays, they started. They started pulling tricks with the Friday. I still was showing up Monday through Thursday. I remember. And I just wasn't coming in Friday. And then they pulled the shenanigans. I know. I meant the renew. And then they pulled the shenanigans. I meant the renew. The re-up on the issue.

There was no renew because the company decided not to renew my contract because I wasn't playing ball with Fridays and I was costing them money. I could never feel like the way you're saying because I'm aware that the show must go on. Even if you created it. Boy, talk about a hard pill to swallow there the show goes on even if you created it that is a fact so when we as men go to bed at night we got a face with back to that replaceable shit more said earlier well we're all replaceable so now the question is you replacing me with, and that's what it was, hey,

you could get rid of me, but in getting rid of me, you better know that you got a seat to fill, and they tried it, they brought in Star, the most controversial, the father of niggas, that's it, Akin Star, I'm sure the suit said smash what happens is not smash oh bring somebody else but that's not because i was like fuck y'all suck my dick i want to ruin the show i thought that was the best thing ever created oh no the suits handled it wrong that's where a lot of my past resentment towards y'all come from because i have 20 years of seeing how the suits treat us and i don't do y'all like that and if y'all don't know that and if y'all don't feel that and if y'all don't see that and if y'all don't trust and believe that then yeah we got a lot

more problems than you inviting me to your hands every week that's the least of the issues okay so let i don't want to accuse you of dancing give it to me but from my understanding from what i believe is recorded and on this podcast and was a big deal yes you did leave complex because you felt the business dealings there when i believe it was a spotify deal maybe a nike deal or something where you wanted to have on fridays yeah you wanted to to have some type of revenue within each ad play. Yes. So there was a problem within the business. No, no, no.

But wait, wait, wait. Let me ask something to you. Let me ask something just so you know, back to the art of shaking the tree. And I wasn't there. I'm asking. I'm asking. I'm not saying what happened. And you could keep this going.

From what I remember you telling me. No, I know it's much deeper than that. Okay. I thought that they were getting money that they would not be able to get without me that's what happened I thought that they were procuring deals that were solely predicated on my presence and I had to go do a lot of snooping around barging in offices talking to people I wasn't supposed to talk to. Just snoop, you know, the fucking game to get the information and decide, you know what? All my chips into the table, all my chips into the table.

I'm moving. And by the grace of God, at complex, at least I was right. I was right. They put somebody else in the seat. The money disappeared. No, we're not paying for that that's not that that is not what we purchased i was home saying hip hip hooray hip hip score one for the good guys the suits did the wrong thing they tried to just make a move based on the money ignoring niggas feelings and you lost the money. That's what happened at Complex. Spotify, I was unhappy a year and a half before the contract. In year one, I was unhappy. In year one, they came back, shot niggas some crack, said, hey, take it. We said, no, they got funny. I had another year and

a half to go. And y'all, in conjunction with, had another year and a half to go i finished it and at the end of it when we had hey y'all know i was doing a countdown it's probably 20 podcasts laughing around 14 maybe 11 i'm gonna get to it right y'all remember we was there right yeah at the end after i had carefully weighed 20 million things one of them being what the fans always go to. Well, if you treat one of your employers like that and you get out there and do one of your rants, then you're ruining your business. Running with this Charlemagne fucking fuckity fucks you. They could never be more wrong. Every time I come in here to do it, as I explained to Rory, and this is not arrogance or ego.

It's just how much thought is involved when I'm shaking the fucking tree every time I come in here to do it go on one of them rants about one of these fuck-ass companies that's fucking black people that's fucking white people don't care about the creators hey I went inside I peeked behind the curtains this what's going on y'all I put my reputation at risk i put my relationships at risk i put my business at risk my ability to feed my children at risk i put future endeavors at risk this ain't just for the fucking living room managers in the youtube comments fam my life is dedicated to this it is carefully vetted and sourced fuck spotify say it now know why

because i already spent the millions of hours it takes and looking at the thousands of variables that could exist in me saying hey wait a minute what if i say fuck spotify maybe that means apple don't come well thank god for us that wasn't true maybe that means amazon don't come thank god for us that wasn't true everybody came still so I'm gonna always look at this with extreme gratitude know why I learned long ago hey nigga

even the fans will say so what when Wano hit that show some fans right there we keeping this moving we keeping this moving we out when Wayno hit that show, some fans right there, we keeping this moving. We keeping this moving. We out Wayno ain't so bad with that.

I'm rolling. Hey, was it the same show? No. Was it profitable? Maybe. Did they continue to run it for years after? Yeah. And Wayno's my friend. Shout out to Wayno. Not friend, but... Love Wayno's my friend.

Shout out to Wayno. Not friend, but. Love Wayno. As close to an industry friend as I'm going to have, right? We don't do Thanksgiving together, but y'all know Wayno's my guy. Pulled him in there for the first pull up. Couldn't even kick it with him about my feelings about what was going on. Know why?

It's my friend. I'm happy for him. I'm happy that he got that shot. Took that, went to the asylum, did that, then went over there and killed him, got his own podcast now.

I'm happy. I didn't think otherwise. I don't think anyone said that you were. into shaking the tree. Fans will forget you in two seconds. That's not something Joe's making up.

I've experienced it. Of course. Feeling like the greatest rapper ever. I was there, and they got seen what would happen. So when I come in here and go on these long rants, and the audience miraculously just follows us wherever we go. I don't take it for granted. I don't take it for granted.

I'm not saying that y'all do. Please don't. I'm not saying that y'all do. But that's how important. But there is a lot that goes in to shaking a tree. It is a talent. It is a gift. There is an art to it. It is a talent. It is a gift. There is an art to it.

And there is risk involved in it. No. Of course. No. Maul. Absolutely. And to the point of how important this show is to me and why it's important to the fans. I have immense gratitude for the fans matter

of fact most of the conversations maul and i did have the entire time where man we got to dress for the people that like actually fuck with us like let's not say the entire audience but like you know the people that have rocked with us for this many years that we've even met at shows and shit like that they owed some explanation but when we were trying to get to the light at the end of the tunnel and get to a place where we could all sit back down, it was like, all right, let's just get to that first. Because if we start addressing shit when it's in limbo, it could be even weirder.

I take that gratitude for them like you would not fucking believe. With that said, this is so important to me. This show is so important to me. Y'all as people are so important to me that, yeah, fans forget you. That's not as important to me. If'all as people are so important to me that, yeah, fans forget you. That's not as important to me. If this shit can't get right, I mean, I had a career without fans before. I'll find a way.

And that's just where we differ. Cool. Fair enough. Yes, I get that. But that's how important this shit was to me. Do I not value them like you would not fucking believe? But I value this shit more just because y'all are really here with me. Like, back to what Maul was saying. If you got people that you love and respect and are broke, that is more valuable than having a bunch of people that you're rich with that don't give a fuck about you. So, yeah. Did I feel for the fans in that capacity?

Did I really want to address that shit and talk to them? Of course. But this was more important to me. That's really what it was. They built this entire thing, but they love it because we was cool. And if we ain't cool and I'm not cool and you not cool, you not cool, you not cool, y'all not cool, loses its value as fans too. So that's where my head was at. It wasn't a disrespect as if I didn't realize that people move on or fans will be upset at you and feel like they abandoned you. I totally understood all that, but I knew the root of why they even cared to begin with,

and it was this. So let's try to fix this. Okay, I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I didn't know how to say it but and you have to say it because I want y'all to be clear on that relationship with fans

they not our friends no that's why I said this was more important to me that they will move on and they will move on to the next thing I understand that that's why instead of immediately trying to address them and talk about it all the time and really connect right away and what was going on no this is what's valuable to me right

now and it's valuable i'm valuable to them because of this and everything we do together when the people love you guys well no no it's a us thing and i love you guys. Well, no, no, no. It's an us thing. And I love you guys too. I don't want to say the people. So, yeah, we got to make sure this is right because if this was never right, they wouldn't love us. So, yeah, I'm sorry. The listeners were not the top of my priority when I knew what was going on internally amongst us.

And I thought that first episode back, I thought you handled it well. I thought it was great. I thought they got something at least where it wasn't like, okay, there's just nobody here now and we're just going to pod like everything is okay. I thought you handled that first episode

great. I was like, all right, that buys us some time to try to get this shit together. I feel you. No, fans move on. They're listeners. They're going to move on. They enjoy podcasting. They can move on to the next podcast. I'm fully aware of that. I do not sit here and think and think yo it's mad people they just literally only care what i have to say i know they love this show and when the dynamic is fucked up then who cares about me who

cares about you who cares about anybody what do you have to say to the people that believe that both of you guys's weight loss is due to a breakup diet? Well, I have made it quite clear. Maul told me he just did the juicing diet. So I know where his come from. Yeah, mine, you know, I told y'all prior. I knew that Maul would be back after the Knicks win streak was over. That's what did it?

I mean, if you think about it, coincidence? That's a, yeah. Knicks get on track? Yeah. Nah, this nigga starting to get shaped like Julius Randle, nigga. That was the only part that was bad about some of the breakups, man. Like, again, we're extremely blessed,

and I personally am thankful to all of the people that worked Overdrive to hold this thing down. Yeah, and let me be clear. Hell yeah. I don't want ice. Those are my niggas. I fuck with ice and ish. I don't want them to think that I got any smoke from my mat. Too late.

It ain't no smoke from my niggas. I learned about the ice course today. Uh-oh, ice. You getting unfollowed. Ah. No, no, no'm not smoking my niggas I learned I learned about the icicles today Uh oh Ice You getting unfollowed Ah No no no Those are my

Those are my I think Ice I think he deleted his shit Oh he blocked you No I think he deleted his Instagram Oh no pictures was posted Wow I think he deleted his Instagram

But no Nothing against them Like I said It could have been anybody It just To me just that It just That was just nasty

You know what I mean It wasn't nothing personal With Ice and Ish It could have been anybody it just to me just that it just that was just nasty you know i mean it wasn't nothing personal with ice and ish it could have been any two people it just was because that's not what this that's that's not what it what it is it's not what the show is you know i'm saying and and for me knowing what was going on internally behind the scenes it was like you know so if me i should do a podcast you wouldn't be a guest if you and i i should do a podcast would i be and Ish do a podcast, you wouldn't be a guest? If you and Ice and Ish do a podcast, would I be a guest? I'm not saying I wouldn't be a guest, but. Could we get you to be a guest like you did on Seed of Thinking? Sure.

I don't like it. Yeah, I don't care. Ish is on my other podcast that I didn't invite you to. I actually put Ish in the podcasting before you, but I didn't even want to touch that. Look, look, look. Cop it, please. Look, look, look. Cop it, please. Look, look, look. Cop it, please. Cop it, please. Please am I cop it.

It's definitely nothing to them. It just was like, nah, I don't want to look at that. That's just, you know what I mean? Like, you just see

something that you built and you see what's at. Did you follow me back? No, right? No. Nah. Can we do it on air? Can we No. Can we do it on air?

Can we clear the air and do it on air? Get the follow back? Wait, did you unfollow after he? You need to reciprocate? No, I'm me. I'm never doing that ever. You still want to see more? Yeah, you want to steal sauce, you know that.

All right, if I steal your sauce, nigga. You want to steal sauce You know that Alright Anybody steal your sauce Nigga You wanna steal sauce Joe was so mad He couldn't clown on me On like extra Crips or activities

When we were on break I saw you Fucking calling my phone I saw you at Delilah's Looking bummy Delilah's I don't know Delilah's

I don't know Never even been at Delilah's I don't know where Delilah's is You were somewhere With the Jenner's With the who? The Jenner's I don't know where Delilah's is. You were somewhere with the Jenners. With the who? The Jenners.

I don't know why I heard the jazz. I was like, wait, I was chilling with the jazz? No, Maul was with the jazz. Trying to see if they could beat Phoenix. I have never met the Jenners or even seen them in person. What about the jazz? I've been, I think I've been to probably a the jazz community. Rory's a lazy sack of shit. This nigga's been gone

for five weeks and still couldn't finish the album. You are fucking a loser. I burnt all my emotional oranges and merged all of them, man. Gave that shit away to kids.

Yeah, nigga, take some orange shit. That's funny. Don't worry about it they're a group of painters they just run around the city painting things orange marketing plan thank you for the jewel

I did enjoy running into the listeners that did care in person. I was in L.A. And you know fans will really want to care and give you real cliche jewels and shit. I was in L.A. drinking some peppermint tea on my laptop, chilling in a little cafe. God put so much on your plate because he knows you can eat. Just keep up with the power, bro. And I felt him.

Dog. You said, mm? Dog. Like the encouragement I got, I enjoyed. It was very funny. Well, did you find Joe Spadio? God put some...

Yeah. No, I got to check with him. It didn't pop up on my rhythms. Damn. Yeah, that shit was funny. Funny how that worked, right? They know you're out of rhythms. They got me right out of your right? They got me right out of your rhythms. They got me right out of your rhythms.

It was like four Joes ahead of you. Damn, Joe. Look at Rory. Make a paparazzi. TMZ Roars. Wait, why are you guys snapping pics of me? I am no one. I mean, listen, I was enjoying a

calm. Bieber was not in there. Somebody put this footage together. I did not see Justin Bieber. I did not see the Jenners. I was having a quiet one-on-one dinner with my mans. I did not see Tyga. I didn't see any of these people. I was literally went from the studio

in my sweatpants and dirty long-sleeve shirt. And my man was like, yo, you want to grab some food before everything closed? I was like, from the studio in my sweatpants in dirty long sleeve shirt. And my man was like, yo, you want to grab some food before everything closed? I was like, bet. My man. Who said that? Division? No, not Division.

Who was trying to eat with you? Division and the Jenners. Nasty ass dinner. That would be a nasty fucking dinner. Yo, listen. Now that we've gotten the tough shit out of the way, I'll tell you guys. I called Rory the other day concerned. Like, yo, man, go home. Mom.

Mom. Rory would not get Rory. He'd been home for five weeks. Nigga was at the Jenner's Crib. I was not. LA. I've never met a Jenner in my life. Kyle Dion studio everywhere.

I was there. He was at all of Kyle Dion's studio Atlanta, Alaska I'm like yo this guy is working through the page he's working oh man

I had to do some finishing touches man wow I went to LA I minded my fucking business I didn't go outside stayed in the studio I went to grab

one glass of wine and some shitty LA pizza walk outside now it's mad fucking photographs people walk I'm glad they didn't post of when I

walked down the street and they kept asking about the podcast you're wasting your digital film that's infinite I'm not gonna say anything you're wasting

your digital film that's infinite like stop wasting this like go back to where the people that are popular are you're popular Roars I don't know what to say

listen man LA was not the place to go in the midst of our I'm so sick of that. Bring back our boys like y'all were the missing girls.

I'm like, yo, dog, they right there. You could tell. I don't buy more unfollow me, but M-A-L underscore How many underscores, though?

I don't even know, man. Are we friends? Why don't I know? I was right uptown man chilling i believe it's right uptown you find a new spot yeah nice yeah i didn't move in yet but yeah i found it okay oh new crib new friends i see what you was No, it's not. Is that how the hook went? Flooded it out. Bust Joe right out with the flood. Yo, if you think about it,

mall's apartment flooded. Joe flooded my laptop with Jameson. There's a lot of metaphors going on. They connect. They connect somewhere. I see what he did, man.

All right. Let's get to business, man. Justin Bieber has dreads. Roy told me to go. When they were at dinner. I braided them at that venue. I feel like for the Get Back Together, man, we should all, like, do karaoke to this.

Who wants to be T-Boz? Come on. Let's go, mom. Every now and then, I'm going to be feeling cool. Hey. Come on. No, you're not going to do it? All right.

I see the level of enthusiasm is still here. Was this the video when they had all the condoms and it was like, wait, what does this have to do with the song? Yeah. That was the video. Mo, what did you think of Was this the video When they had all the condoms And it was like wait What does this have to do With the song Yeah Alright

That was the video Moe what did you think Of Ice's outfits in your chair Did you see any of them Did you get a chance To take a look Take a gander That's why he unfollowed you

He just told us He said it was a mess Y'all trying to create that No Y'all trying I keep trying to create things right That's not He said it's not fashion.

That's low fashion. People were sending me shit. I was just laughing with them. They're y'all stupid. That's Ice, man. What you think? I don't know Ice. Why the hell I don't know what Ice for years?

That's who he is. And Ice is going to tell you. He's going to tell you. Let me tell you what my theories are about you and Ice. About me and Ice? Uh-oh. You ready? You have theories?

Okay. Don't hit me. That's really why I move seats. I'm chilling, bro. I'm chilling. In my head, you hit West Side Gun to say, yo, have you heard the pod lately, man? It's a guy named Ice on there, bugging out. And then West Side Gun came at Ice over whatever Ice has been saying.

And let me tell y'all, baby. Wait, Ice and Westside had a little smoke? Yeah. Yeah, they did a little change on Twitter. It's happening right now. Can we pull it up? Yo, you got to follow Ice. I follow Ice.

I don't know. It's pretty funny. I don't know who you follow anymore. He deleted his account, but only Westside could tweet it. His Twitter's still active, not his Instagram. I don't even know Ice had an Instagram. I don't know the status of nigga's socials. Yeah, about him, you know, I don't really...

But you have to squash this now that you're back. All right, but tell me what happened. I don't know what's going on. Look what you're tasked with. Yeah, what happened, though? Click the D-dot tweet. You know that Ice has been saying he ain't really a big fan of Griselda, and I guess members of Griselda heard it. Ice has been saying he ain't really a big fan of Griselda, and I guess members of Griselda heard it.

Ice has been saying that, yeah. And replied. Well, can you read it? No. My eyes are bad. The people who've never been fly or sold out. Back to this. Or sold out.

I miss co-hosts that can read. Or only drink champagne, never been to jail, and or never worn a $1,000 sneaker. Say I'm trash, though. And D-Dot says, damn, officially. Okay, so D-Dot threw Ice in this. been to jail or and or never worn a thousand dollar sneakers say i'm trash though and d dot says damn officially okay so d dot threw ice in this yeah maybe wes wasn't talking about ice maybe yeah i didn't even get me and what happened after that ice right there at the top why are you saying damn to me he's still trash oh okay now see the he's still trash is now you

if he wasn't talking about you, now he's talking about you. I love cyber niggas. I said, if you've never been to jail, you wouldn't get the jail bars. You ever ate burgers on a Wednesday? You ever ate chicken on a Thursday? Might sound trash to you, but if you've been to the feds, you would get that. Now, if you never did shit for the culture or fed multifams, y'all word ain't shit. See, I read all that and said, why are the feds eating better than jail? It's federal.

More funding. Chicken on Thursday. I love chicken. Watch yourself. That federal is... Black man loving chicken. Oh, that's not ice. Wait, what? I didn't even connect

what you were talking about. I was getting down to the root of the systemic way that federal crimes are treated better than state crimes. Well, let me not say all federal cases, but all those white collar crimes that they consider federal are treated like they're at fucking summer camp. And then people that sell marijuana in the state are treated like fucking animals. But neither here nor there. Sure. Did you guys watch X's celebration at the Barclays Center? I did, and I want to talk about it.

But I am a little offended that the back of your shirt has the fucking nerve to say, friendship through basketball. It didn't work through potting. We've been trying to do this two-on-two game forever. You don't think this is smacking her face? I thought it was a good thing.

That's where we'll reserve the friendship. Damn, man. We should have settled the rim right up the street. Let's settle this on the basketball court. Listen, man. Rest in peace

DMX. Rest in peace Shaq G. Rest in peace Black Rob. Rest in peace all the rappers that we have lost, of course. Over the weekend, they did have services for X. I watched Sunday, not Saturday. I watched all of the clips on the internet of the bikes. I really did love the monster truck.

I did. I thought it was fly. That was amazing. I did think that there was a lot of attention to detail paid and just how this was done, the ride from Yonkers to Brooklyn. I liked at the Barclays when they had the pictures of him at the bottom of the stage.

It never dawned on me to treat a home-going ceremony kind of like a performance, even though we've seen performances. We've seen Michael Jackson, James Brown. We've seen them go. Nipsey's too.

There was performances as well. But what I mean is even the treatment of this stage where they put the faces on the bottom I mean DMX's face on the bottom like he was about to come out

I like the red casket just how they built that stage was beautiful within the choir as well and yeah just whoever really creatively designed that entire thing

at the Barclays Center it was beautiful that shit was truly a celebration of X. I love the beginning of having all his kids up there. And I'm not sure if that was one of his baby mothers that started talking first of just saying that, hey, we're all here to get along for X. There's no disagreements.

We have all his kids together. Everyone that was part of his life, there is no disagreements in this type of shit. Because so many times you see with death death and funerals of how families and associates amongst families and other you know people that are involved turn into like some crazy fucking argument and i i thought that was super beautiful to have all his kids and and everyone involved in his family up there saying, hey, we're here for X and X only. There is no disagreement. Their only focus now is celebrating this man. I thought that was fire.

Yeah. It was sad, but it was a beautiful ceremony. It was good to see a lot of the original Rough Rider faces there to pay homage and pay respects to DMX. I didn't get to speak to you more when X passed.

I almost want to ask you how it affected you, but that seemed like a stupid question. Yeah, I mean, it was tough, but I think the week leading up to it, I think we kind of all knew. You was getting news daily on his condition and stuff like that. But it was sad because we, in the last, I want to say maybe year and a half, we started to see more of X. We started to see him get his flowers, quote unquote, you know, doing interviews. Versus. The verses.

So it started to feel like, like you know people were appreciating x for the legend that he was and is and um it's just sad to see that it was you know it was it was it was it was a short a short moment um but it was it was sad for another reason because of what x you know his lyrics over the years x was basically a gospel rapper yeah you know i mean um he was just raw his emotions um his faith you know you know we have no question that x is is in heaven you know i mean like that's just the type of person and the man that he he was um but it was just tough man because we just keep losing our legends man we keep losing such big icons in our culture and i feel like it i don't know if it's we're not doing

enough i don't know if we're not you know paying attention to the legends enough but it's something it's it's just it's a weird feeling man it's almost like we can't see our legends grow old you know i mean it's like we we don't see our legends really grow old you know i'm saying like 50 is not old to me i don't know if you want to step definitely not you know i mean so it's like it's it's an eerie thing man because you know i remember the first time i heard x you know i'm saying like i still remember that day. Specifically. So to now know that all of those years and now he's gone is just, I don't know, it's an eerie feeling, man. It's a real difficult time for the coach, I think.

But I think we should pay attention. I like what Swiss was saying. We need to show up for each other while we're still here. Yeah, I felt that too. I think that was very important because, again, man, we don't get to see our legends grow old and grow comfortable. I hate to be the guy.

What? I didn't love it. Why, him sandwiching himself for each other while we're here? I didn't love it. Why? You don't think that

that's a true statement? It is a true statement. Why do you don't like it? Don't use my funeral to say true statements. And I'm not talking about Swiss. I'm not talking about Swiss and X and their relationship

and what he felt. I don't know anything about any of that. I'm just saying how i felt listening to it i mean maybe i felt that way largely in part because it may have been true it may have run true but at that moment when you say that if i walk in the house and say yo, ain't nobody sweep the fucking floor, man. What the fuck? Like, I'm talking to the people that didn't sweep the floor.

Like, he's talking to the people that maybe didn't show up. Yeah. But that's important because now you know, yo, show up for your people when they're here. Yeah, but at my home,

at my home going in again, I have all the respect in the world for Swiss, D, Y, X. Please don't misconstrue this. And I apologize if maybe I shouldn't even be saying how i felt about it at the time but i get it and when it's me please don't use my home going to uh highlight the things that you wish people would have done while i was here i get what you're saying but i'm not saying that about them because maybe the

feeling was overwhelming please please and it could have been a general statement too may not have been specific to anyone on that stage or in that crowd

but you know what I do want to highlight the fact that you know fuck how I feel about it my feelings ain't important here like we all lost

a brother these gentlemen lost a brother right I think that what is being stated and some of the things that occurred from what I saw

are commonalities at a lot of funerals that I've been to, right? Where somebody gets up there and does speak to some of you niggas. Yeah, yeah. But it's necessary sometimes. And says names. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah names yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

that part I don't like don't single nobody out I don't that just turns it weird but I understand I understand what Swizz was saying it's like yo

let's take care of each other while we can still take care of each other absolutely right I don't even I don't want it to make it seem like I'm even responding I get what you're saying

I get what you're saying we know it's just I just put myself in the situation that's all I get it yeah but I understood it. It's more so like, yo, listen, take care of each other while we still can.

Don't wait till we're gone to try to be around and comfort and try to help out. It's like, yo, while we still here, let's help each other out. Let's be there for each other. And I understood that. You know what I mean? I understood that. And I think that it was important that he said that. And again, man, it's just something about the culture in hip hop.

I don't know what it is, but it seems like we can't watch our legends grow old. I don't know why that is. You know what I mean? It's just weird. It's real weird to me. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero.

Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. Rob Markman, The X-Zero. It's really unfortunate and just sad because I felt like for the last year and a half, people really started to really give X the props and the respect and the flowers that he deserved. Yeah, this is when you got to take a long, hard look at the culture that you live and love so much.

I am not shocked by that. Like one of the hard, cold, harsh realities of this thing is this is a business that profits off of the broken. Hey, and thank you for even there being an opportunity for the broken to flourish this way. What I just say to all the fucking creators and entertainers out there is like, you got to make sure you don't break from being broken. Like what X was able to do with it, you might not ever see again. No. God no.

When you living with the type of pain that I think he lived with, and I don't even have to think, I heard all his loved ones get up there and say it. Everybody that loved him got up there and said, yeah, thank God he's not in pain no more. I did love what Styles did say and I think it spoke, you know, I didn't have the pleasure of knowing DMX personally,

but you could kind of feel it through the music, but of Styles saying that, you know, every day you saw X, he was in pain, but instead of taking that pain out on other people,

he used that and only gave out love to everyone. Like, that spoke a lot to me when he said that. Like, every day I saw this person, they were in pain.

And, you know, a lot of times in the cases that we've spoke about a bunch of times, hurt people hurt people and things of that nature. X, say, yo, X took that and instead just gave out love to every single person that he saw. He didn't want people in the same pain that he knew too well. So when Styles said that, I thought that said so much about X's character. I don't know if I've ever been to a funeral that went according

to the schedule and the pamphlet that I was reading. Of course not. No, for real. There's always one person that feels compelled by the moment

and wants to get up there and speak to their love. And they might not have been on the little pamphlet thing. I don't think that's ever not happened at a funeral I've been to, unfortunately. I actually don't like the times. I've been to a few funerals where they don't give that opportunity where they say, if anyone has anything to say about this person, please have the floor. I don't even like when they don't do that in funerals.

Yes, people get in the moment of the funeral and feel certain things and should have the ability. I don't even like when they don't do that at funerals. Yes, people get in the moment of the funeral and feel certain things and should have the ability to say them. I'm not sure if I like when they do it. I like when they do it. That be the moment

where somebody come up here that I didn't write down. Nigga, I was alive during my will. I didn't write you to come up here and speak. You didn't put him on the list? Well, you know,

a lot of people don't have wills. Well, I'm not talking about that which I think Swizz brought into that into that too

which I thought was a good point it's funny me and my mom had that exact conversation this weekend too it was weird when I was watching that

what'd she leave you no she was just she was saying that you had to check it out no no she hasn't done one oh you're my only child true

this is where the entitlement comes from duh you know I have a brother she was saying she's about to do her will she was like She hasn't done one. Oh, you're my only child. True. That's where the entitlement comes from. Duh, I have a brother. She was saying she's about to do her will. She was like, you need to do one. Stop getting in your head that that means death is around the corner. Like, you got to get your affairs in order early.

Before, and it's kind of to what Swizz was saying there. Like, you don't want somebody else that just happens to be in your next in your bloodline that they're like legally the person that should be handling this, not the one you want to handle this shit. So, yeah yeah i had a deep conversation with my mom about that so she was like i'm putting this with this person this person like i was like i feel you the mall saying we don't get to see our legends age right but i got some type of ptsd involved with just coming in here to speak about death so often yeah i do believe that words have meaning and i'd be conflicted because i don't want to come in here and not pay the respect that i have for people but i also believe that if i just come in here talking about death once a week yeah start yeah yeah yeah man it is it is but i mean to to x's music and and even to a lot of our legends that we have

have passed that spoke specifically to death i mean that's the catch-22 of artistry sometimes that they feel so close and impelled to it unfortunately they express it better than anyone else and people relate to it and that's what makes them such good artists but in turn you're constantly talking about death you're constantly talking about negative things and that's kind of what makes them such a legend because we can relate to those feelings because they express them much better than we do and are closer to than than we are and at every funeral like the person that lost it over the funeral you got to deal with them like it's some people that's not handling it as well as others uh and i won't get too far down it's uh the rabbit hole of when the family anchor is the one that dies or when the

glue when the glue is the one that dies i have my now have my grandfather this past april y'all think we gotta come in here and shift through podcast issues when things are great. Imagine that, showing up to the fucking funeral. It's a glue. Granddad is dead or some shit. Yeah, now let's get the smoke out the way, nigga. That one person that can tell everyone to shut the fuck up and bring some order into this family is now gone? Yeah.

In the middle of a funeral? Yeah, it's never good. Yeah, that's the worst. Find worst how your family really feel about you that's it tweeted that this past week when i was at a funeral this weekend you'll find out exactly how your family feels about every single member during a funeral it'll happen but i mean i let's stay away from that this this was a beautiful beautiful beautiful going away ceremony um shout out rough riders did you guys ever have the chance to kick it with x i don't know yeah well i mean if you had any

stories or anything because we we you know weren't here when uh when x had passed yeah you and i have had a conversation you know how much x x is one of my favorite rappers ever and what you meant to me i told my stories when he was alive that That's my thing. I ain't waiting on nobody go for me to talk about how I loved him, praised him, adored him, respected him. And I'm grateful that I had the chance to say that to him directly. Actually, most of the people that left, now that I'm thinking about it, that passed, not left. I got the chance to tell them to their face how much I loved and appreciated them. Nipsey was the only one I wish I got a better chance to do that with, because I just felt like a pull up with me and I'm sitting down talking to him

to just the way that the brain has to work of the guy who sold the a hundred dollar CD in 2011 or whatever year it was. Yeah. I think it was 2011. 10 or 11. Yeah. We got to, we got to speak to this person.

Yeah, absolutely. That would have been a great combo yeah and yeah your music i even just outside looking in i feel would be complete influence x would have been a huge huge one but back to my ptsd i'll be honest with both you gentlemen we was going through our uh pod dilemmas, I said, oh, this will be a bad time for me to drop dead tomorrow. Like, I have to stay alive to see the end of the, to see the resolve. Like,

even that's a luxury. That was a lot of sentiment of the fans. Yeah, like, we could, we all here, like,

Rory over there, Molls over there, yeah, we could beef or not talk or not get it together, but, and that's cool. And so somebody's dead. dead I mean you and I spoke

the morning X died yeah definitely wasn't anything to do with podcast stuff yeah you cried to me X dying was a really really big

thing to me X has always been one of my favorite rappers ever don't I know don't cry to me and question our friendship

that's like don't call me don't ever don't buy me a mattress you know This has always been one of my favorite rappers ever. I know. Don't cry to me and question our friendship. That's like too much. Don't call me. Don't ever come. Never mind. Don't buy me a mattress. You know. He was crying too.

Shut up. And I'm getting rid of that mattress. Pat, are you in that mattress? Haven't had a good night's sleep yet. Oh, my God. Yo, buddy. The demons can't figure it out. Yo, ever since it happened, my back has been killing me. haven't had a good night's sleep yet oh my god yo buddy yo ever since it happened

my back has been killing me I know man cricks in my back no come on man don't try to brush over Justin Bieber getting dreads somebody answer to it

somebody answer to it and let me and let me apologize to the fans this is a horrible I've done a horrible job with these topics to go from our mess to the X funeral. Well, you know.

Like, man. I mean. Debbie Downer. Did I play outstanding? No. No, I don't think so. Just Wilson and Phillips. Come on, man.

Well, rest in peace, X. Yeah, rest in peace, X, man. Rest in peace, X. Thank you for everything you've given us in this culture. Yeah. Prayers to the family. Prayers to the friends. And one last thing that Kiss said during the ceremony of,

we made it because of DMX, but we made it before DMX. And all he did was big us up. We made it because of X, and then we got it before DMX. And all he did was big us up. We made it because of X. And then we got on before X. And he was the reason. And all he did was champion us. Won a bitter bone in his body. Wasn't trying.

All he cared about was getting us on. Yeah, that's why Ice and Ish should be on your album. You should champion them. Ice and Ish should be on your album. You should champion them. Ice and Ish put me on? Maybe. Look at this nigga. No, I'm cutting this off. Somebody answer to it.

I can't look at Bieber with the trends. There's a list of people that I can't come in here and speak honestly about because the fans say, hey hey man, you have a hard on to get this person out of the paint. Paul's hard on and Justin Bieber's on that list. Justin Bieber, Kanye, there's some more people on that list.

Justin Timberlake, who we can go into now or later. They're doing a, the people who did the surviving Britney Spears doc are doing a surviving Janet Jackson from the Super Bowl performance doc? See, but that's the thing. I don't care to know anything

about Justin Timberlake unless a new slap comes out. No. I don't care what he's doing. You know who I want to hear from in the surviving Justin Bieber doc is, what's his name, Lil Twist?

Who was the kid he was hanging out with that they blamed all his fucking fuckity fuck actions on? Oh, it's because he's with little twist or whatever i forgot the gentleman's name framing he needs to be on that fucking dot because justin bieber did all that fucking bullshit all that illegal shit all that stupid shit and well it's because he's hanging out with this guy it's like not guys mind his fucking business in the corner this is the fucking idiot oh no there's words oh he gave us words for the you idiot. Oh, no. There's words. Oh, he gave us words for the dress?

You know he's going to give us some God words after he does something. Oh, my God. I like the Justin Rebrand. I'm sorry, man. I like it. Bieber or Timberlake?

Bieber. Yo, he did not. He put out a great album. Yo, he did a Comedy Central roast and then got up there and was like, I wasn't close enough to God as I was before Viacom

and all the people watching. I'm now no longer want to hang out with black people. I'm going to go back to being white so you guys can accept me. That's what happened on that.

Fuck Justin Bieber and his rebrand. And his dreads. And his Martin Luther King album insert. I didn't know that existed. It's a good album. You like that?

You like that more? It's a good album. You like that? You like that more? It's a good album. It inspired you? He got some joints on his album. Some joints on there, man. I mean, what you want me to do? You know, music, as long as you put out a good music, that's all I care about from these guys.

We can talk shit about them, but you put out good music, you got to say you put out good music. He has an MLK interlude? Yes. The intro of the whole album, I believe. All right, man. They didn't show that at Delilah's. I did not see Justin Bieber.

I was not at Delilah's, and I did not see Justin Bieber. This is disgusting. Roy already said it. I'm not going to say it. I'm cool. The MLK interlude? You don't like it? No, the whites with dreads.

I don't give a fuck about this kid. Oh, the whites with dreads. I'm sorry. I don't give a fuck about this kid. You wasn't feeling his album? No. Really? No. I thought you would have like it no the whites with dreads I don't give a fuck about this kid I'm sorry I don't give a fuck about this kid you wasn't feeling this album no really

no I thought you would've liked it it was no journals oh I'm I don't compare it I don't think it was a good album though I just

the elephant in the room of the artists that are allowed to have these mental breakdowns and be forgiven and just say they're with God now is I'm over it.

Like, sorry, you don't get this any, there's so many other people that do not get the luxury that they completely fuck up and make one mistake when they're a kid. Justin Bieber did that for two decades and every time he does it, it's like, well, I read the Bible last week and I really see my ways differently now.

But what if he did? People are allowed to make mistakes. And I have no idea what it's like to be the most famous, richest person ever when you're 13. I was giving him a lot of leeway for a long time. It's just now getting insane. And I see the way his team blames it on so many other people instead of him. That's where I get mad. That's why I need to hear from people in the surviving Justin Bieber. It's a great team.

Scooter just found the person. Great team. And's a great team. Scooter just found the person. Great team. And then go to God. They can't knock that. Once you start singing about God and you married now and it's like, fam, look, man, it's a whole package that we're giving you.

That upper echelon of A-list stars that can just be like, all right, everything's getting fucked up. Let's just have a mental breakdown and we can fix it. Kanye don't even get that luxury. No. They kill Kanye's mental breakdowns.

Yeah. Bieber's is just like, well, you know, he did three Hail Marys and two Our Fathers and he's fine. White privilege. That's of course what it is.

Yeah, absolutely. Thousand percent what it is. But well, he has dreads now, so I don't know if that changes things. Those aren't dreads. He just, he was at home, bored,

and just twisted his hair while he was on the couch. Those are dreads. That's like when you're, that's when your 13-year-old finds out what marijuana and the Phish album is. They listen to what Oasis

or whatever that fucking band is. Yeah, they got, put some tie-dye in the walls. It's like, ooh, I'm really into the Rolling Stones now. Like, that's what, that's what this is.

That's when they get on their artsy shit. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, those aren't dreads. Whatever is. That's when they get on their artsy shit. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, those aren't. Whatever, Justin. He was just on the couch twisting his hair. Playing with some Elmers. Yeah, took a flick.

Nothing serious. Has there been a better Justin Bieber song than All That Matters to Me since it came out? I wouldn't know. I like the new joint with Gideon. Well, I love Gideon And I fuck with Daniel Caesar Yeah I think it's I think it's cute

That Justin Bieber's Ad-libbing Bad bitch In the background Like I think it's corny It's just I get the record's Good

It's a good Polished pop record I get it But I don't want to hear Justin Bieber Ad-libbing Bad bitch In the background

I just I don't care What about with the dreads? Does that change The ad-lib? Why you in the background. I just don't care. What about with the dreads? Does that change the ad-lib? Why you didn't get your dreads? Why you didn't get your dreads? I'm excited to cut my hair off instead. But then if I was responsible for mine.

You should have dreaded yours. I've had dreads before. Parks walk so Bieber can run? Exactly. The Goldilocks. My shit just goes into dreads after one day anyway. I cut it because it was going into dreads after one day anyway, so I cut it because it was going into dreads.

It's all good. Fair enough. Come on, Moe, shake shit up. Shake shit up? Yeah, shake shit up.

You didn't get your birthday. Alex was talking about when I was talking about Snowfall's better than the wire. That kind of took off on him. I read that shit. I was like, man,

Moe home dying to get the takes out. God damn. I had just finished watching the season finale of Snowfall I read that shit I was like Man I'm all home Dying to get the takes out Like god God damn I had just finished watching The season finale of Of Snowfall And I was like

Bro listen You can just Just look at the story Look where the The acting Look where the story can go Like It's not even

This is one of the best shows We've ever And I understand It's only four seasons Huh? It's not even close No I think Snowfall

It's at least close Jesus No We're not even gonna say no i think snowfall is at least close jesus no we're not even gonna say no the wire is better than snowfall no snowfall ends then we can have that debate hell no why is the why why is the why snowfall is fire i'm not getting to it okay but why do you feel like the wire is better than a better character than omar on snowfall a better character than omar yeah i mean but you you, it's not, see, because that was the thing. People wanted Omar. But to me,

Teddy is just as gangster. No, on follow back. He's just, Teddy McDonald, Teddy McDonald is just as gangster, bro. Like he killed a journalist. Okay, was he gay though? He may be. We don't know.

We haven't seen his, we haven't seen his sex capades yet. We don't know what, you know what I mean What he's into That's true But it's like He's gangsta Bro he went to Cuba

He is gangsta To finish Franklin's father You thought you was good You a rat homie I'm getting you Out of here You don't know that

Did he ever Rob a man You don't know that You don't know that I didn't like How the mom Sashayed out the crib Ass just wagging Wagging it around mom Sashayed out the crib Ass just wagging

Wagging it around When your girl leave out the crib With her ass wagging it around She going to fuck a nigga Or send a nigga to you to kill you Nah That's what's happening Niggas ain't think she's headed to the store

Oh shit look She sashaying to the store Nah that was her Yo we in Cuba This is our life now Like I'm just going to the market Nah this is like a a setup waggle to me nah nah

she ain't she wouldn't do that but Teddy is just this gangster and he's CIA he's protected by the government and that's why

I asked that question who would you rather have equal Teddy or Omar like Omar nigga I'll take my chances with Omar Teddy

that's the CIA bro you're not beating the government it's not happening that's fair I mean but and I don't want to I don't want to have

this whole debate. And we just get no... Like, I didn't like how people was just... Now, granted, his tenure on the show hasn't been that long. But Scully is just as gangster as Omar to me. Excuse me? All right. Come on.

Yo, you got to be off the podcast. Why not? Why not? He got beat up in a hospital. He didn't get beat up in a hospital. He was bleeding. Omar jumped out of the seventh story He didn't get beat up He was bleeding Omar jumped out of The seventh story

And didn't go to the hospital He got a broken leg And then robbed everyone's crack And stepped on it And said And about money Scully ain't kill nobody Scully ain't kill nobody

And hurt nothing Burned all those money With a bone come out of his leg First of all I got more respect For the niggas That burned LeBron's jersey In Cleveland

That nigga just in the hospital crying at the bed. Let's be, let's keep in mind that a kid killed Omar. But that's how the shit go, man. Yo, yo, he wanted O's. A kid ain't killing Scully. This nigga pouring leak in his bullet wound. This nigga getting shot.

He pouring the dividend leak in his ear and his bullet. I watched Straight Up Truth take a bullet out of his arm in real life on Instagram. Listen, man. And has not stopped helping kids since. Word. It's funny how life goes, right? It is so good.

Yo, now this morning I seen. And behind George Floyd's attorney, too. I see Trader Truth right there. I love that, man. That was great. Shout out to Trader Truth. Always. No, Trader Truth.

It's the truth. Hey, y'all thought it was something when J. Cole pulled up to that fan's house to announce the album. No, Trey the Truth is at every kid's house to support them. I'm like, yo, when does he have time to take the bullets out of them? He's doing work. That's a good dude right there. Mice. Like, as I age, I'm thankful for these people that are doing the work,

like the real work. I am. Nah, for real. Shout out to these guys, man. Yeah, absolutely. While we are on Snowfall, and I don't know if this adds to Maul's point, took me a long time to get used to Franklin's accent, like his real's accent. Like his real life

accent. Niggas on Twitter said he running around LA sounding like Count Dracula. He's from LA. You know who's his, I guess, speech coach for the show is Mac 10. Oh, wow.

Wait, excuse me. Snoop from The Wire didn't need a speech coach. Wow. She caught a body in real life. She wasn't acting. I think Scully did too, though. The dude that played Scully, he just came home a few years ago. Allegedly.

Well, allegedly. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody said on Twitter that they want to ask anyone from Baltimore how to pronounce Hulu. That's funny. What do you guys think of Jerome's voice? I got you. I got you.

That's a voice over. That's not his real voice. We'll knock that bad boy out ten times in a row. That's a same fall. We'll knock that bad boy out ten times in a row. That same fall. We'll knock that bad boy out ten times in a row. That's not his voice. That's not his real voice.

That was a voiceover. No, that's him. Okay, yeah. Him doing the voiceover? Yeah. Because I heard that and I'm like, wait a second. I've heard this guy's voice before. I know Duke.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wasn't talking like that how'd you feel about this season though snowfall yeah did you finish it yeah come on man

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it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's No, he finished it in real life. Still kicking. He mad at John Singleton. Why y'all ain't boycotting the show? That's the real question. Should we be? What happened? I missed it. Because y'all fake. His favorite rapper is Rick Ross.

You think Moe's going to boycott this? Yeah, he boycotted this. You're fucking right I did. He on Twitter. There's no fall. I like this motherfucker better. He was in business with Freeway and his favorite rapper is Rick Ross. Why would I be boycotting this, though?

They stole his life story. He didn't get no money. Respect. Nigga, what's your life like? Mine's real. Everything's signed and sealed. I mean, it's loosely based. You don't care, right?

It's loosely based. Fucking moral mall over here. No, it's loosely based. It's loosely based. It's fired by. It's loosely based. And our loosely based. It's fired by. It's loosely based. And our fight was loosely based on our contract. No, it's never about that.

It's never about that. But he should receive some type of something from this show, though. Honestly. Freeway? Yeah. He should. I agree with that. But I mean, I'm not going to boycott the show because of that.

Because it is loosely based. Who are you rooting for in the show? As far as what? I don't know. Just when you watch it. Are you rooting for Franklin? Oh, yeah. He's a CIA.

Is he? Well. Not really, but. I guess we'll see. Yeah, he's not. But I understand what you're saying. But yeah. I'd be conflicted.

I'm rooting for him, though. Only because if you've been Watching from the beginning Like if you go look back At the first Like few episodes He's the man Like you just see the

But he's CIA Well Yes and no That's how crack got in the community I understand what you're saying But it's a partnership I'm not mad at crack Getting in the community

Don't go in the homeless shelter And tell everybody He kicked the kids out The grandma The granddad was looking I'm not mad at crack getting in the community. Don't go in the homeless shelter and tell everybody. He kicked the kids out. The grandma, the granddad was looking at him like, come on. Hey, come on, brother. This shit is close. Yeah, that was kind of foul, man. Listen, if you ask me how I feel about the season, I loved it.

I thought that episode nine really, really accelerated. And I loved the finale. But boy, did they spend eight episodes making me think that what's this nigga named Leon yeah boy they made me think he was tough I thought Scully was tough his sister was tough but they spoke him I just thought a lot of people I thought Franklin would run into a lot more problems than he did nigga turning the Kaiser Soul Say at the end put the cane up I thought he was shooting her nigga went home got a sandwich like fam that was my only issue but I loved it.

I loved it. Now, I hope they don't take four hours, I mean, four years to come back. Nah. They would have been back if it wasn't for COVID. No, you got to shut up. They doing The Wire right now in Queens just because of that shit you're saying. Uh-oh, season seven. They brought it back.

They hit it. Just for you. Uh-oh. We're more than best. The Harlem edition of The Wire. That's funny. Yeah, nah, I see them coming back before the year's out, though.

Nah, it'll be next year. End of the year? I could see them coming back end of the year. For sure. That's ambitious. I hope so, but that's ambitious. Yeah, I could see it. You think it's a better written show than The Wire? So far, yeah. I don't know. You still asking him? Yeah. I'm trying to fully understand it. Every character in The Wire was both

good and bad, And it was fucking crazy The Wire is the perfect show It literally shows you how Everything that happens Within the drug world, the political world, the police world The media world, the newspaper The kids, like how all that's connected Within one city and how they all

Buy into each other It's a better show I'm gonna argue it Snowfall's a fucking amazing. I'm going to argue it. Snowfall's a fucking amazing show, though. I'm going to argue with you because Amari Hardwick DM'd me recently, and I was phony. I was like, I love your shit.

And I do love your shit, but I was like, thank God he didn't hear my Tank album critique. But he hit me, right? And he deserved that, though. He did. I like how he loves everybody. I do. But listen, I will try to defend it because I'm phony. The Wire gave us what amazing artist.

You fucking guessed it. Mack Wiles. Own it. You was out that summer. I seen you in Greenhouse. You was shaking your hips around. Very record. Shaking your hips around, right?

And gave us your best friend. The one I give it to. Michael B. Jordan. That's true. I'm concerned with the hit songs that have come out of these shows. Power gave us Rho Teemee. Yeah. I don't know.

You saying, yeah, no, no, no. You're not feeling me. There's a meeting in my bed. Yeah, nigga. My bed. Each other front. Wait, hold on, hold on. Yeah, you could be uncool for a second, nigga. My bed. Each other front. Wait, hold on, hold on. Yeah, you could be uncool for a second, Mark.

Come on. I'm following you. You just followed me back. No, now you follow me. No, I'm trying to see where you're going with this. What hit song did Snowfall, even Empire had slaps on it. What was the gay dude's name that was lying about the police on the subway? Jussie.

Jussie. He put out some slaps. He did actually put out some slaps. A few n Jesse he put out some slaps he did actually put out some slaps a few niggas put out some slaps what has the Jesse got some joints

Snowfall what this is just come on Mel gotta give us a record yeah well this is I mean this is

a different cast though this is not like Empire was a musical I mean first of all rest in peace Maserati Fox

Snoop from the Wire Maserati Fox and Tony Ayo got a street classic it's joints man yeah I mean First of all Rest in peace Maserati Fox Snoop from the Wire Maserati Fox And Tony Ayo Got a street classic It's joints man Yeah I mean These are

They not They not with the music Can we eliminate him From the sleeper segment Snoop from the What do you say Do you want me to play it Snoop and Maserati Fox

Or rest in peace Fox That's my man Always rest in peace to Fox It's Snoop Nah I was a joint Google that one It's called Stick Up Hey I saw that record

and didn't wonder how Fox got the feature. Hey, if I'd have saw Fox and Hov, I wouldn't have... Oh, see, I got Hov. Nah, this nigga got a classic. Rest in peace, Fox.

Queen for the... Listen, I hate to make it uncomfortable, but I started something while you guys were gone, and it's been a hit, so I have to continue it, even though I've been trying to not continue it. But boy. Keep going? Left and right.

Left and right. I am not introducing this. There's nothing to say. Look at you using the new tricks you got from your new booze. Booze? What are you talking about? There's nothing to say. Look at you using the new tricks you got from your new booze. Who? What are you talking about? That's funny, Brooks. I think you're trying to get more to shoot me.

Fuck out of here. I have no idea what y'all talking about. I don't either, but I just think I know what Brooks is saying. Luckily, you both come from hip-hop, right? Oh, so you heard this lap. And y'all know that the record labels have been jerking artists for years, and one of the ways to get around that

is to re-record your music and you own it it's yours now are you for that you for the creators and that I get it I understand but I

I play it this way I see why the record label wanted to own this one I see why the record label said go ahead I'm gonna listen I'm gonna support but I'm gonna listen

to that to the old mix too, though. Listen to the rough? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not the rough. Now, I'm going to play a little doozy here.

We've had, who have we had appear on this thing? Alexander O'Neal twice. He redid Saturday Love. All his plays. Don't play them either. He tried to get that back. We did. Jay Holiday redid Bad. I All his plays. Don't blame him either. He tried to get that back.

We did. Jay Holiday redid Bad. I heard that one. Huh? Yeah. What else we did? It don't even matter. Check this groove.

This Bad version is crazy. Check out this slap. Now, you got to be a V. Some of y'all not old enough to know this. Oh, we're going to let this vibe out right quick. Turn this up. Back in the days when I was young, I'm not a kid anymore. For some days, I said I wish I was a kid again.

Back in the days when I was young, I'm not a kid anymore. Wait till the verse start. Hold up. Let's go. When I was just a little nigga, bro, I looked up to my bigger bro, First star, hold up. Let's go. This nigga sounds like he is dying. How old is he now? Man, if you don't get the fucking label,

they intellectual property. That's fucked up. That's the remaster. Always trying to bag with these niggas selling laryngitis. I was going to say, if you guys do not think COVID is real at this point, what the fuck?

I can't go see my grandpa, but you guys can bring recording equipment into these places? Fam. I get it, though. You like this? I don't like it,

but I get it. I understand. Okay. Long again. I would not be blasting that version, though. I get it. Hey, Savon.

I won't be knocking. Where does that play? Right here. No, it don't. No, Savon. I won't be knocking. Where does that play? Right here. No, it don't. No, it don't. This is getting deleted so fast out of the fucking Serato. By the way, you can keep this on YouTube because no one's going to flag that. Well, listen.

See? And that's why foresight is so important, Savon. What year were you born? Ninety-four. I didn't think that the people i think this came out like 92 i didn't think that the people born in 94 would really care about this right i'm bothered by it it's been remade so many times too though so even if you don't know that version you know that sample and those lyrics that's when you use the mad records so i threw that out there first a little bit but uh i got worried about another song

and this one bothered me for real you can play the original first yeah yeah yeah yeah i gotta do it some justice come on man jersey city's finest the amazing oh Milione the amazing please don't the impeccable I love PM don't this is a classic absolutely boomerang 92 all of these people used to get the vibe or I never heard this he probably still sound good, right? You're chilling. He probably still sound good today, right? I mean, I don't... Try to trick us with the remix? He did this over. Please, God.

I'm going to just wait until the famous ad lib comes in. Then we'll find something else to talk about. Oh, my God. This is going to hurt. Oh, man. This is a conundrum. Don't do that.

I can't because it's going to hurt. You ready? No. Okay. Okay. We got Twinkle. Okay. Piano. Piano's voice don't age. Same key. Look at him all. It's the drop it You vibin so far? No, he about to kill shit Is it my turn To wish you were lying here

I tend to dream you When I'm not sleeping Oh, badly Oh shit To fictionalize my world Or even imagine your emotions I can't tell. Nigga. Wait. Yo, put your lighters in the sky out there if you rockin' with me. Vibe with us, man, we hear them. Hey!

That's one. Oh shit, nigga took the harmonies out the chorus. Listen. Oh shit. He took the harmonies out the chorus. Listen. Oh shit. He let the beat breathe. Nah, he can't. Nah, he can't. See, that's the problem.

He couldn't let it breathe. That's the problem with a classic record when you do that. That's the problem. He sound like he dying to die. Sound like she left. I see why she did. She should have. He's starting to understand her perspective now.

That's a slippery slope. And I'm not doing it because that's Jersey City's finest PM Dawn. Classic, classic record. But y'all have got to give labels back their property. That sound like something. Or at least find the auto-tune. Yeah. Like, how hard is that?

It's right there under pitch. What's the rule with that? How different does it have to be from the original? We got to make it really bad. That I don't know. Yeah, we would have to look into that. What's the rule? You can do it.

Just make it bad. No, because some of these, Because I've been listening to them too They're not new records They just sound shittier Like it's in the same key It's the same You just sound worse It can't be anywhere close

To the original It's supposed to go like this You guys Fucking hate working With such novices You just slowed BPMs down? Chopping school? And now it's mine again just slowed BPMs down. Chop and screw.

And now it's mine again. Just got to chop and screw it? Let me just put an uh-huh. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Anything that didn't exist on the record before and now, it's mine again. Listen, the kids do that with,

hey, hey, you go put some shit on Instagram Live. All the YouTube people that get paid are going to take it, add their words to what you did. Yeah, of course. And now it's theirs. I mean, I just want y'all to stop. Y'all are doing this to the slaps, like my favorite songs.

I might never be able to play I Would Die Without You again. No, we can play it. You're just going to play the one that we fell in love with. Yeah. The labels version. Yeah. Come on, that's not on the right side of the title. That's not what title is.

It's going to sound like that? That's not what title wanted to do. Title will give more percentage to the label. That was a real thought of mine when you niggas left. I was like, oh, my God, Hove is looking at this. Hove loves Rory. Am I going to have to explain? No. Why fucking the guys? I'm so glad he didn't take me.

That would have been pressure. Yo, get the guys. Y'all. Why they not laughing at my buddies? All right, moving on. That's hilarious. Some good advice came from his camp. That could be the reason that we're all sitting here.

Could have trickled down from him. You never know. From his camp? Yeah. There's a camp over there. What Beyonce told you? They have an expensive camp. Good campsite.

Beyonce said go back. Over there in Bel Air. Beyonce said what? She said go back. Go back. She texted y'all. Go fetch. Go pod, guys.

That's why I don't like you. Other people record their voices? I didn't even know peasants were doing that these dudes take their little hiatus the other podcasters they found every interview the world was looking for

oh shit AZ wait whoa who got AZ exactly these niggas are flourishing out here damn who got the AZ

in the video oh my god I'm gonna get it man I've been liking all this shit lately These niggas are flourishing out here. Damn, who got the AZ in there? Oh, my God. I'm going to get it, man. I've been liking all this shit lately. That's how you go about asking? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got to do it. Oh, you killed that selfie.

Alex. So, sir. You wasn't even laughing until Alex left. That's how it work? Gang shit. Gang shit. Yeah, a whole lot of gang, right? That's gang gang. y'all didn't say

nothing bad about me in the streets when random people was asking y'all right like yo what that nigga did no you you guys watched me

on camera coming out of whatever place you said I was at not answering any questions sir no no comment

fuck Joe these guys got to traveling fucking more with the Bermudas yes you did went on a fucking what do they call it

when healthy niggas go on a retreat spiritual retreat spiritual retreat he went to go get whole inside they come back with different beads

around their neck and on their wrists and shit like ooh this sand this means serenity Rory went back

to the cord cutter. Oh my God, you won't guess who it was. You forgot one. He was there all along. Right under your nose. You never said anything about it. I tried to do it on my own and look what happened. You were right.

It did rhyme with so. You couldn't put your finger on it. You said it was these hoes. Oh, man. Hold up. Where's my phone? I don't have nothing written down. This is going to be a five-hour pod.

And don't do that. I've seen you in the streets. No, you didn't. You was a little Miami maven. I've seen you out there. I have not been to Miami. My girl was begging me, yo, can i'm like no you was at somewhere that said miami you're screaming yo you have to have like some real shit going on you're good okay why are

we going why are we why do we go away like wait huh shit is grumbling that's why why was rory flying Spirit? I was not flying Spirit. Yes, you were. First class Spirit. Listen, you know, I like my leg room. All right, wait. Mo, before we get out of here, and I don't even know that we're getting out of here right now.

You should speak to the Knicks winning streak. Come on. Oh, you should. I think it's great for I've been here speaking you gotta do it I went to the Knicks game but I was like oh shit Reggie, Reggie Bullock

he's like get the guys back they wouldn't even talk to me yeah I think it's great for the for the city man this is the one take you've been right about in the last seven years is that Julius Randle is Julius Randling.

I did think about that. You ain't got a lot of right takes when it come to this stuff. I do, man. But the ones that you get right, it be like, wow, no one saw this but Maul. Nah, man.

I mean, you know, you just, you know what it is. And just knowing Julius and talking to him, man, there is a distinct connection between guys who

are really family oriented athletes it's really hard for them not to be successful like and that's like I'm talking about like the guys that are like

family married don't party James Harden would like a word with you no I'm just saying I mean obviously you have

the guys that party that are successful and great athletes. And then seeing the way Julius was working and the fact that he was really upset when they were losing. He was really upset. Like, he did not like that shit. Last year. He did not like it at all. Like, it was really bothering him that the team was bad. And just seeing that and then seeing his work ethic, I knew.

I'm like, fam, I'm telling you. Like, he's different he's different he wants to win like and he feels like he can beat anybody that don't mean nothing it means a lot

no man niggas want to win in the league right but focus is different but yeah the focus the focus the

he's just a different and to be so young and be that focused and locked in I knew I was like yo this he's going to be he young and be that focused and locked in, I knew, I was like, yo, he's going to be, he's a special player. I cursed Parks out all last night. The entire last night.

Why? The entirety of it during that Knicks on the whole game. It's all your fucking fault. You think he didn't hear that shit, you stupid shit he was saying? He went to work on Reggie Bullock. We was going to win that game. Chris Paul said, I heard what he said. I heard Parks.

Take this. Yeah. We was going to win that game. Chris Paul said, I heard what he said. I heard Parks. Take this. Ah! Yeah, but even in that loss, they're mad they lost that game.

No, no, no. You know what I'm saying? We haven't seen a Knicks team like this in a very long time. They are mad they lost that game last night. Because they shouldn't have fucking lost it. Yeah, no, I agree. But that just shows what type of shit that they got going on. If you get better from the last year yeah they like man

fuck that we let one get away we should have won that game like they really mad about that but they want to get to the next one yeah if you really if you really take

if you really take something away from it then you will not lose for even in defeat there will be a valuable lesson learned so it yeah

someone should have wrapped that that would have been on fucking death maybe on a retirement but even that game last night I mean the Suns are one of the best teams in the league. The fact that the Knicks played them down to the wire like that, Chris Paul hit two tough shots. Cameron Payne.

I got to be in my living room worried about Cameron Payne. I know he's nice. I know he's nice. I know him from college. I know him from college. But, yo, and speaking of that, you want if you want me to tell you how I feel why I feel old

outside of my back pain every morning I want that fucking mattress I bought from that girl this is why I feel old Benzino's daughter has an

a smash running around yeah nobody cares not about her in the song. I'm just saying, that's Benzino's daughter. All right, cool.

Forget about it. I turn sports in on every night and Kenyon Martin Jr. is rising for the block. I'm like, oh man, this nigga's kid is blocking everything. He's going to be good. Hey, I know your dad from college.

I watched the Cincinnati games. And been mistaken for him a few times. Hey, the draft. Don't do that. The draft is coming up, right? The NFL draft. Cornerback, Asante Samuel. Asante Samuel, yeah.

Junior. Asante Samuel, yeah. Wait, no, junior. Patrick Sertain. Junior. Junior. Junior. You don't feel like an old fart?

Oh, yeah. But even Asante Samuel with the Patriots and Eagles was over a decade ago, right? Antonio Winfield's got a kid in the league too, right? Yeah. The kids is tough, man. I understand the clout. Yeah, I know I was getting old when I'm now older than the best player in the NBA. Yeah. It's like, oh, shit, I'm old. Significantly. Yeah, I knew I was getting old when I'm now older than the best player in the NBA. Yeah. It's like, oh,

shit, I'm old. Significantly. Yeah, like, oh, shit. You're not older than LeBron. Yes, I am. Yeah, yes. LeBron's younger than me. LeBron's 36. I almost said 35. Yeah, 36 probably. Yeah, 36. How old are you? 39.

You know, I went back. Now I went back, but I've seen some Wilt Chamberlain footage in you guys' absence, and I take it all back. Your dad was right? No, Wilt was the real dad. No, he could do that anytime. Right now. Put a rim up.

What a gazelle. Gazelle. And was doing that in some bullshit sneakers that's the part we don't talk about the equipment that these players had back in those days

diet, resources like they was out there you ever just walk around to some Chuck Taylors yeah your feet be burning burn rock

yeah they was hooping like wait these were made to play in socks yeah like they were out there

jumping like in canvas real athletes. Yeah, before Michael Jordan brought crack to the league. But even the Jordan 1 is not a comfortable shoe to play in. He snowfalled the NBA? He was with the CIA? Yeah, I'm talking shit. I'm talking shit.

I'm talking shit. I'm talking shit. Look at this guy. He's amazing. I'm still living with the ignorant take that you had before. Which one? That chance was the next drink? Yeah well that too

But um It's still Not too late Nah I still think I think this error I think this error was easier And I'm an ignorant young person Nah I don't think

Wait which error is easier To get a deal in? Y'all know that Now or later in? Y'all know that. Now or later? Yeah, y'all know that. That's been answered. A lot of these trash niggas that we get there every day.

I just think Babe Ruth would have been struck out in the last three decades of MLB. Just the older players, man. I don't have the same thought, but I'm an ignorant young person. Hey, Rory didn't get the news. You don't have the same same thought but I'm an ignorant

young person hey Rory didn't get the news you didn't get the news babe is ours now yeah what happened there's a thread on twitter going around saying

babe Ruth is at least part black potentially oh he still would have got struck out by a young Dominican kid in the MLB if he was in the era

where not only white people could play. No, not now. He's black. He moves with his cousins. Look at the internet. I missed this entire thing.

It's a real thing. It's a real thing. Look at his cousins though. While we're on this, and I don't like making a thing of talking about good ideas that maybe were birthed by the internet, but there's this idea floating around on the internet. Are you going to talk about Mad Lib and Logic as magic? Yo, do y'all want to pause? Is this important to y'all?

My bad, my bad. I dedicated my whole life to Logic and Mad. What's it called? Magic. Yo, do y'all want a pod? Do y'all Is this important to y'all? My bad, my bad I dedicated my whole life To logic and mad What's it called? Magic But I don't even get it He unretired again, right?

Magic Okay I love Madlib way too much for this It's magic The funny shit is How you think this Nah, I'm chillin' I'm chillin' I love Mad Lib way too much for this. It's magic. The funny shit is, how do you think this... No, I'm chilling. I'm chilling.

Logic, by the way. Because Logic is on the list of people that when I talk about Logic, Kid Cudi, Chance, fucking all these niggas. I can't talk about nobody. The gang members,

the scammer rap. I didn't even know that was a thing. Chris Paul. What do y'all want me to say about this? This is how I knew R- pod was still salgable, however you pronounce that fucking word. Me and Joe wasn't rocking, and he texted me during that Kid Cudi SNL dress thing.

We was beefing in the middle. We was beefing at the time. Yo, what's up with your man in the dress? Did you ride for him? Yeah, man. I told Joe. He's all these rappers' moms. He's all these...

That was only weird to me because it looked nothing like the dress Kurt Cobain had on. That's why I was lost when they was making... He was in black. Yeah, I was like, fam, it's not even similar

to what Kurt Cobain wore, but okay. Maybe I'm not artsy enough to understand what's going on. Yeah, it went over your head. Yeah, I understand. And it was all white. Yeah get it i get it i get it what were you gonna say about the internet inventing something oh they had this idea floating around about uh the last dragon of course but they was like yo we should get a prequel on show enough like how did he get the glow and they should start that story. And I'm like, yeah, with all the fucking horrible stories they're shoving down my neck, Paul.

Yeah, that might be a good idea. I see how I tied this into Magic. Somebody else has to say something about Magic. Like, we can't just go to this thing. I don't want Logic to waste any of the amazing Mad Lib beats, even if Madlib doesn't like those beats and gives them. He should still save them for someone else. Logic can rap. I know he can.

Yeah, just do it to yourself. Just rap to yourself? I just don't. Do it in the confines of your own home. That's probably where he recorded it. Okay, well, keep the masters in the living room. Okay. Where was Madlib when he agreed to this?

I know Logic called him. I think he read this headline with the rest of the world. Logic called him somewhere. Is his old V-Tapes out there? Wait, he got this on YouTube. Did he type in Mad Lib type beat? That was funny, man. I wish our friendship was better.

So I could really give you your props. The magic is gone? He caught the... Yo, please stop. Please stop. Please stop. Air high five. Please, please.

Oh, look at the chemistry starting to come back together. For only seven weeks. But what if it's hard, though? Well, for the chemistry to come back? I have to make a tough decision. What if we know it's not? What if I could guarantee the results?

Then you should listen to it and let me know. All right. I'll be that guy. You're not going to check it out? I'll listen to it. I'll listen to it. You know Benny.

Mars only part three. This bullshit. Fucking logic. Told you he wasn't retired. Right back. We weren't trying to argue with you. We just. Yo, Tory Lanez tried to get in your seat.

I saw that. I screenshot it. Wait, what happened? Tory Lanez what? Tried to come sit in Maul's seat. Why Tory think I got. I don't. Tory, I don't have no issue with you, man.

What is it? I don't have no issues with you man Like I don't What is this I don't have no issues With dude man Like I don't understand Like what's going on He never said That you had issues Yes he did

He screamed fuck mall On his album At the top of his You know how They mix that vocal And he said He wanted to slap me So what he said

What he said Say mall And then he said He wanted to sit in your seat Yeah Oh no I screenshot it I watched his live I watched his live I seen Tori Yo want to sit in your seat Yeah Oh no I screenshotted it I watched his live I watched his live

I seen I seen Tory Yo let me sit in my seat I screenshotted it Why you want to sit in my seat Cause he's short And it's the higher seat Hey Tory

I don't have no issues with you bro I'm not beefing with nobody I said that already Cleared that up I'm just saying I'm not I would have been shady To do that though That would have looked nuts

I'm gonna say But did you guys see Tyrese shaving Coochie On Instagram live I'm not Talking about that I don't know What you talking about

We could do sleepers We ain't gotta do this We had to Tyrese Yeah We don't have to do that There was something else Important that I felt like

Needed to be discussed And then What the hell Was it I felt like needed to be discussed. And then what the hell was it? I would never want to be trusted to shave a coochie. No. Yeah, just. All bad. I'm an adult now.

You can leave that shit, Harry. I'm cool. Okay. Quickly before you do that. Sapphire is a strip club Like I signed in one time And I think Them bitches leaked my number To every stripper

In New York City Is that who it was? You know how many You know how many Texts I get from 646 numbers About strip club nights And where the underground is

Oh you got the Oh That's how Sapphire That's how That's how they got Oh I know I'll get you Signed to the wifi Sapphire. That sounds good. That's how they got. Oh, yeah. I'll get you signed to the Wi-Fi.

Hey, hey. Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. No, no. I'll make it clear. I gave her my number. I'm saying a stripper at Sapphire's gave my number to the world. Oh, okay. I thought you were saying you signed into the Wi-Fi.

No, no, no, no. The downside of that is you know all of the underground strip club parties. I don't think this is a bad thing, Rory. I got all the deals. I got the code to use at the front. You were saying important. No, don't do that. It's not important because I probably shouldn't even say it,

but we ain't got a pot to say it. A few weeks ago. I'm saying this and y'all don't have to reply just let me do it a few weeks ago on the internet Raz B made a post

saying yo 10,000 likes 20,000 likes whatever y'all want to do the boys get back together we going on tour if you want to see B2K on tour

all you got to do right now is put a one in the comments and we2k on tour all you got to do right now is put a one in the comments and we're going on tour and nobody on the internet said it so how many ones did they get hey well one more i didn't count but all I could think of was son said I mean go for it wait

oh wait we gotta read now don't try to erase the screen put it back he didn't even put a one he said yo I mean go for it but when he said this this is not funny cause when he said this all i was thinking was yo y'all was on tour when you left the tour you said that all the niggas was touching you disrespecting you and you boogie we all rallied behind you right and here you know this nigga got

some nerves y'all want i couldn't yo it'd be moments on the internet where i'd be waiting behind you. Right. And him, yo, this nigga got some nerve. Y'all want that out? I couldn't, yo, it'd be moments on the internet where I'd be waiting, ooh, they gonna learn him now. Ooh,

they gonna set him straight. But the internet be like, nah, just go ahead, let him live. Nobody said, yo, dog,

y'all was on tour and you fucked it up. And if they didn't say it, neither did Joe. So here's another one that stumped me a little bit. But you just. Don't worry about it.

No, no, no, no, no. That's edited out. That's edited out now. Here's another one. And get your sleeper ready, man. I think it's great. All right. That sounds like I'm lying already.

Hold up. Do you think his plan was to bring all the one comments to Live Nation? Like, yo, look at all these ones. Probably. And Live Nation would be like, word? Oh, bet. We're booking it. When you can't tour, by the way.

I'm really, really, listen. I'm not for violence. I'm not for death, murder, and hip hop. I'm not for the robberies. I'm not for any. I'm not for death, murder, and hip-hop. I'm not for the robberies. I'm not for any of that, right? And I want to say I'm really, really happy that, by the grace of God, Baby Blue from Pretty Ricky is still with us after what happened in Davie, Florida. Let me read to y'all what he said.

From the hospital. I'm basically on a bunch of machines hospital keeping me alive at this point but I improve the more I fight so let's make a deal I'll fight as hard as I can and beat this if y'all promise to make me one of the biggest rap artists in the world. That's all I want. Crying emoji. Deal? No.

He tweeted that from the hospital bed on life support. And honestly, prayers too. I really do hope for... It's not a deal. I really do pray for him. I can't participate in that deal it's not that's a red spice you the guy yeah good for her go first right yeah you know redice is great, but. He actually seems supportive. He needs to think of it.

Well, go ahead, shake shit. What about the wire? I'm chilling, man. What do you think about Trump? I'm chilling.

I'm chilling. Let's just go right. Yo, he said, let's make a deal. Hey, if it was that easy, nigga,

I'd have made mad deals after pumping a yo y'all bargain here damn no one is signing up for this deal are you on

life support tweeting that or posting that on Instagram that's nuts they said he's keeping them alive look at where

the internet has put us oh man I think Red Spice is keeping them alive. Well, she gave us some insight. She said the internet enjoys watching people be hurt and go through fucked up shit. Anything negative y'all want to be a part of, have an opinion and comment on. He did say yo.

I'm leaving that topic. I'm not talking about it. I'm glad that Rory and Maul are here so I could ask them mad questions that I don't want to answer myself you guys rest in peace MF doom I agree of course I just keep thinking of people that have passed rest in peace MF doom shout out the Jeremiah who tried the MF doom trick where you wear the mask and you send somebody else to go pick up the second half of the show bed. That's real shit.

Innovator. Jeremiah just sent some other dude out there. Yeah, but this is my thing with y'all. I don't think he put a mask on. I think he just sent some guy out there. Jeremy. I think he just sent Jeremy out there. Look at that back end.

No, no, no. At least Doom had the decency to put a mask on the other guy try to confuse us well that's why I'm mad at my fucking brain for just functioning

a certain way I'm watching the X services and the Kanye choir went out there and there was a dude at the piano

with a mask on and I harken back to all the choir saying they didn't get paid or whatever for singing Chaka Khan, whatever they were singing. And was that Kanye in the mask or no?

Are they doing a trick? Kanye was there. Was that him in the mask? Oh, I didn't think Kanye was there. I thought it was his choir. That's a pretty snazzy trick. He was there. I was on the same time you were.

That's a pretty cool trick. I thought they tried to kind of make it look like Kay was there. And that would be hard. If I'm the choir, I might want to do that instead of actually having him there. Does the guy in the mask pay the invoices on time? I mean, the focus. Yeah, we didn't get no resolution to whatever was happening there. No, it was a new choir the same way it was a new cast on this podcast. Yeah.

This is very parallel in what's going on. Why is this weird to y'all? That's why it's an issue. I thought they did a great job, by the way, though. And that how they flipped Rough Riders anthem at the end, I thought they did a great job by the way and that how they flipped Rough Riders anthem at the end I thought was dope that's what y'all did when we was gone she left

she wanted us to do that's y'all drop that is funny as fuck man yeah actually your drive is gone now that's it yo I don't have nothing else to ask who is that that's what I need to know me don't have nothing else that I yo who is that that's what I need to know

me don't do that don't do that Parks put the filter on you no that's that's Kira Lopez yes Kira

and there's a Joe drop there's a Joe drop done sexy yeah no no she's cool I fuck her yeah did y'all drop sexy

it's coming we can stick with my nephew she said fuck him No, no, she's cool. I fuck her. Did y'all drop sex? It's coming. We can stick with my nephew. She said, fuck him. Getting him out to paint. Yeah, there's nothing else that I feel like I have to get to. I wanted to come in here and talk about little TJ for a minute. Oh, yeah.

You got to watch that doc. They said Dr. Umar's wife is white. I don't believe that. What do you want me to do? Cut it out, man. Stop. He was talking that shit on watch that doctor. They said Dr. Umar's wife is white. I don't believe that. What do you want to do? Cut it out, man. Stop. He was talking that shit on the breakfast club. Stop. He not doing all that.

He got a white wife. He not doing that. He said you can't get reparations if you have a white wife. You shouldn't be allowed to get reparations. Yeah, I'm scared. I think people would find out about her. His wife? Come on, man.

A lot of us have tried that way. Never mind. I don't know to laugh with you. Yeah, I know. I was testing you. It was a test. It was a test. Throw it out there. See how you reacted.

I don't have nothing else that we need to get to. Nothing else is that important. There's no new music that came out. Congratulations to her. Shout out to Van Lathan, too, man. What an accomplishment. You getting an Oscar.

Shout out to everybody that won. Shout out to Van. That's awesome. At the Oscars. That is a really, really, really big deal. Shout out to Young Thug and Gunna for banning a bunch of people out of jail. That was hard. That's fine.

Yeah, that was real nice. Shout out to E1 for selling our royalties yet again. Man, what a guy. What good guys those are over there. Wait, did Hasbro sell them or did E1 sell them? Hasbro sold them. They held on to the death row masters for a year and then just passed them off?

They went to somebody. I don't know. Some company I never heard of. Blackstone, I think that's what it was. Time to re-record broke. They went to somebody, I don't know. Some company I never heard of, Blackstone, I think. Time to re-record broke. We're less fortunate. Yeah, give them the less fortunate version.

I think this is hard that Young Thug and Gunna did this. Yeah, it's great. And I'd like to find out how you go about doing something like this. I think i might participate in this if i knew how to do it yeah that's fine they went to bill bondsman i think right yeah so i don't know yeah yeah but they didn't just show up to the jail you can't do it that way no and i love how channel 2 in atlanta made this look like it was from 1996 like Like with the fonts, the lens they used.

It was really odd watching it. I was like, this is nostalgic yet happening in the moment. Yeah. But no, it's very, very dope gesture. And I've been the grumpy old man

with the TikTok dances and all that. That little, that young thug, ski slope shit. I thought you were going to talk about the Griselda dance. Listen, man.

Record's pretty fucking good. I was in Ski Slope shit. Griselda dance. Listen, man. Record's pretty fucking good. I was in my crib doing this shit. That's how you was getting down in the house? That's what you did with your spare time? We're not popping in one of those TikTok dance. It was gotten in him. I was hitting the bunny slope like, come on. That's who he was riding for.

That's why I was in Atlanta The funny shit though Is That do seem like a dance That as you The older dudes Can do a little bit It's got It's a little two-steppish

I've never jet skied Or What is that? Jet skis right? Ski slope Yeah they doing one of these And one of these I get out there

And break every bone In my body on the slope But I hear that's really fun Yeah but if you don't know What you're doing You could really hurt yourself No there's no Skiing is terrible Thug dance or skiing? and one of these. I get out there and break every bone in my body on the slope. But I hear that's really fun. Yeah, but if you don't know what you're doing, you could really hurt yourself. No, there's no if. Skiing is terrible.

The thug dancer skiing. I don't. Skiing. Oh, okay. I was like, wait, is there a gang affiliation to this dance I don't know about I shouldn't be doing?

No. That's the new thing that's tricky too. The gang members keep doing dances to make you think that they're not gang members. Throw you off.

Kind of throw you off a little bit. Yeah. It is tricky, man. It's a bunch of lingo. I could do that. A bunch of lingo. No, you're affiliated. I think it's the hook to the record that I love.

And I'm like, oh, I shouldn't be saying this, right? Oh, man. That's funny. Oh, shit. The UFC fight. Let me just say congratulations to dude because, wow. That dude that lost his leg. That was terrifying

I didn't not loss it someone like completely yeah it was brutal I think it's the undercard yeah it was mom not watching that don't put it up there I do not well can you bring up a Jake Paul's comments on I had a big one Durant went down with that injury I'm not gonna see anybody's leg get shattered oh are we pulling up Jake Paul comment what happened what Jake Paul said he tweeted uh tweeted your boy uh the owner of UFC uh what's his name Joe Rogan Dana White yeah Joe Rogan's partner same thing more or less uh he tweeted uh I thought it was an interesting point Jake Paul tweeted and added Dana White he He said, Dana, you claimed you would bet $1 million on me losing. Set up Askren to train with Freddie Roach. Gave him full access to UFC PI and he still got his ass handed to him. Seems like you are the real douche, not Ariel.

Aereo. In my third fight, I made more in total pay than any fighter in UFC history. Maybe it's time to pay your fighters the fair share. No wonder they all want to get into boxing. Dana, you said you make the fights the fans want to see, so hurry up and make Jones versus I'm not even going to try it. Pay them the fair share, 10 million purse for each guy plus PPV. Why are UFC fighters so underpaid versus boxers? Why did I make more in the third fight than all but two UFC fighters have in history? I know why.

Dot, dot, dot. They should re-record it. The fight? Like fight again? Conor McGregor get back in there like, hey, let's, you know, I won't really hit you.

Get your chips. But no, it's, you know, I won't really hit you. Get your chips. But no, it's, I mean, the shit that Triller's doing with people that are not even professional fighters and how much money they're making compared to the people that are sacrificing their fucking rest of their lives, livelihood. You get punched in the head a few fucking times, you're dead. Yeah. Whether you're alive still. Them shit's be awesome. I'm not going to lie.

The fact that they only have this short window, it's the same way I think with running backs and wide receivers and shit in the NFL. You don't have a big window to make as much money as you can. By the time you're 30, it could be a wrap for you. So why are people that are not trained fighters that are still getting the exact same amount of views as these people so underpaid compared to it?

Something to be brought up. I like J. Paul doing this. I do too. I like that. That's using your platform and your reach trying to make an impact. I like that.

And gathering more information. He's new to the fighting world to this degree and he knows how much he's making with the Triller stuff. And he's talking with these UFC fighters that have dedicated so much

where they're literally getting their faces beat the fuck in by other like shit yeah well I know he just called out Cormier

I think and slow down Jake Paul you don't want to do that you don't want to jump into that UFC ring with a real UFC fighter no matter

if they're rigging all his planes yeah but I don't and I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say they are doing that. Do you think they are? The rumblings are out there. That last one was a little fishy.

The last boxing. The last one, I'll go with y'all. The other two, I'm not saying that. Mad more fish than that. Yeah, that was definitely a little shake and bake on that fish for sure. But I like that though. I like him calling out Dana White. Yeah. Well shit, that makes me feel even worse

that Jake Paul out here rigging beating people's asses and getting paid this and these UFC fighters are really fighting and not getting paid getting their legs shattered

yeah it's crazy that UFC shit is no joke look at this you know what alright yeah this was definitely yeah I don't have nothing to say about this oh my god man first of all if you're gonna rig the fight joke. Look at this. You know what? Alright. Yeah, this was definitely... Yeah, I don't have nothing to say about this.

Oh my God, man. First of all, if you're going to rig the fight, you got to get better acting classes. Yeah, because they've rigged boxing matches for a long time and they've looked better than that. Yeah, I'm not doing this, William. But I'm not doing that first two fights. I don't think we're rigged with Jake Paul. This looked kind of nuts, though. That's not the worst shit you ever saw. Man, I'm out of here.

I'm out of here. I don't want to talk about him no more. No, I agree. That was saw Man I'm out of here I'm out of here I don't want to talk about him no more No I agree That was terrible I'm finished with him Is there anything that we missed? Welcome back guys Welcome back Thank you for welcoming me Park

Good to be back in your house When you say Park It's like it wasn't me Welcome back to you nigga It's his house It's his home That's true That is true

Yeah I rang the bell And the door was open immediately Well, no, it's his house. It's his home, yes. That's true. That is true. Yeah, I rang the bell, and the door was open immediately. That's how we do it. That's how we do it. Just ring the bell, you can come in. You guys. No, no been listening to no music. Me either, kind of. I still listen to music, but no new music.

Hmm. Let's see here. What do we have for the people? This Nobody project came out last week. Really good project. First song in that project is called foe f-o-e project is called tunnel vision if you have not heard it it's in your iphone right now or your android Like, then I walk through that door and tell them, In my songs, Made them listen. Before I got through, I turned my back on more than just my demons.

Love that enemy, cause the one you think your friend might end up turning on you in the end. And where you at, when you hit the switch, Then I'll get shit right back. How much, before you fucked it up? They know I would level up You thought I was chosen, why you chose her? Now it's no pain in back Then I get shit right back

How much before you fucked it up? They know I would level up You thought I was chosen Why you chose up? Now it's no pain in back All my wonders Feeling this bluntness But why the fuck? Ever since I looked up

Inside of them entitlement I'm so tired of bottomless shit Rust straight in Niggas need nigga check I sign off on my checks Nigga, I don't make no cuts Don't need to set the record straight All organic, my strings

Tonight ain't lose no deal Price just went up to a million Dem be the underdog on the underground GM the dun-da-da, the fuckin' sound Mm, yeah, you hear me now I'm on the underground GM da-da-da-da, the fucking sound Mm, can you hear me now? Time for the woofers now Way back how it was

Before you fucked it up Ain't no I would ever do that Cause here the I was chosen When you chose up now it's mine Hey, baby How much before you fucked it up? They know I would let you go If you don't know

Why you chose Now it's mine Hey, baby How much before you fucked it up? If you don't know Brand new music from nobody This one is called Fo F O E Off that Tunnel Vision Project

Shout out to him man We appreciate you Really good project Check it out If you have not heard it Absolutely That's my dude Shout out to nobody

Play a record This comes out today This is my dude Child This is gone This is how long it's been This is going. I don't have... This is how long it's been. There's an aux cord

over there somewhere. Back in the days, man. Not a kid anymore. But some days I still feel like a kid again. I know that it can hurt sometimes, I bet When all the wisdom come out right, it happens And maybe we can learn from times like this And we can be gone

I know that it can hurt sometimes I bet when all the wisdom come out What happens And maybe I can learn from times like this And I can be gone It takes a little practice So close I almost had it I thought I was concise But it turns out I guess it's one of those nights Military tactics Like we're from two different atlases

Inside the corners of your mind You've got your stories and I've got mine You're already perfect I'm already right With a little practice, we'll be fine I know that it cares sometimes, I bet When all the wisdom come out, right? It happens, and maybe I can learn from times like this

And I can be gone I know that it cares sometimes I bet when all the words come out right It happens And maybe we can learn from times like this And it can be gone Oh, oh, oh good music he's putting together right now. dope. I play a new joint upcoming off the new Belly project. This is If You Know You Know. In theory, here in your ether wrapped inside my misdirection Missing signs and red flags until you end up on a missing sign With your head tied in a red rag rag

Just a real pair of jet lag lag When I was young I made myself a promise I said only trust yourself, nobody else is honest Pay me dollars, not homage, I'm sick of being modest Ironic, blessings came from something so demonic I got a million in diamonds inside the ultrasonic Polished, the flow iconic, still I'm so neurotic I treat my product like narcotics, it's economics

Heavy stream like a fiend, I wanna try the chronic Big dipper still tipping out of town, strippers I bet these hoes go down quicker than brown liquor In my city at night watching the lights flicker I'm getting high in the Sky Villa, my eyes swell up I'm telling time on the Sky Dweller I keep my heart in the wine cellar, I try to tell em Thoughts of you give my body chills, my only pleasure I think I know how a diamond feel, I'm under pressure

Thirty pounds and a hefty, I hope the Lord bless me My pimp hand ambidextrous don't make me go lefty maybe I'm hard to understand but these hoes get me I ball hard I should have got my own my heart cold I swear I feel like 50 below I don't let the pain show if you know you know man you used to be my doll but we don't kick it no more I still got love for you if you know you know my OG serving 10 he said the time over slow you gonna be rich when you, if you know, you know My OG serving tennies at the time of a slow You gon' be rich when you home, if you know, you know She could be your dream girl to someone else, she a hoe

That's just how the game go, if you know, you know Yo, if you know, you know I told her, if you know, you know You know the vibes, bitch If you know, you know I told her, if you know, you know You know the vibes bitch If you know you know I told her if you know you know you know the vibes bitch Vicious how you still around the same bitches got they nose in my business call it cocaine interest Heaven hell it's the same distance cold like the winter solstice that became Christmas

Huh, no decor millions in my floorboards money walk Villains lining walls in the corridor, no remorse Before money, I've been rich Whipping till the shit made my limbs twitch The zombies came back with the skin itch, thrill alive Faces like vanilla sky Almost had to die just to feel alive They can't feel the size of walking my line, these Margella slides The revolution won't be televised, nights become days I made it out of hell unscathed, might go back one day Just a sunbathe, one way, high beams on, doin' top speed

Cold world, long as we alive, we are not free Oh, oh, oh, if I would've lied, I would not be Oh, oh, oh, if I would've loved, I'm not free As Belly, if you know, you know See you next Wednesday is the album coming in June On a Wednesday? See you next Wednesday Okay

Shout out to Belly We'll play his problem record off this Crisis album that just came out last week This is why Is it because I'd rather get paid to shoot at you? Declare war, send them troops at you? Or is it because I'm older and I'd rather look over baked statements than over shoulders? Don't cry, niggas. I'll mold you.

Show you how to wear this real, baby. I'll clothe you. Overcoat you in cold weather. I know it's better. Man, I'm missing my soul, brother. I don't know why. Yeah. What it hate, what it hate, what they hate, what they hate on me Nah, don't, for real I don't know why

Who are they hate, what they hate, what they hate, what they hate on me Fly nigga till I die nigga, don't ask why, nigga It's your birthday, but no surprise, nigga I'm that thigh killer, young prize winner Got that, and I ain't stopping, no time soon Laughin' in concoons, trick the whites before I concoons Representin' somethin' bigger, middle finger to the bigots Yeah, I'm bigger than a nigga, I'm a black man

Blowin' my horse, sax man Y'all comin' for a rich nigga like the tax man I don't know why Why they hate, why they hate, why they hate, why they hate on me I don't know why Why they hate, why they hate, why they hate, why they hate on me And I never understand, I'm thinkin' of bigger plans Gotta get my mama out the neighborhood still But smokin' weed make me feel better than a paid bill

Knowin' if I would've been fake, I'da made meal So what you pot got the juice, I remain still Loyal, yeah, yeah, I'm representin' my soy You can't be a boss if another nigga employ you Shot her like foil, swear most of these niggas poyo Put you under your hood, no engine, no oil, yeah Still tryna take a different route But the negative keeps on slippin' out

Diamond Lane delegation is illustratin' A picture that's never been painted Want a bitch nigga, take it Not on my watch, stay watch stand fly like a pilot watching Lakers from a skybox hit it Kobe before you hate a nigga

get to know me I'm one hell of a homie I don't know why that's why Crisis featuring Problem off the Hour of Crisis

album that came out last week dope project shout out to Crisis yeah it's my doom hey that nigga would've been in the yard like album that came out last week. Dope Project. Shout out to Chris. Yes, my dude. Hey, that nigga would have been in the yard like Whatever is going on right whatever dances I would have been doing.

Put 25 more for that? That's nuts. We just coming in with shit. Man, they flipped the kitchen over. I was like, nigga. Got rid of the white appliances. Man, everything's stainless steel. Everything. That makes a's stainless steel. Everything. That makes a big difference in the kitchen.

Hell yeah. Viking stove. That's how they base the rent is off the kitchen. They get us hype. Ooh, Viking. Come on, fam. You know when she see the Viking, she get comfortable. Maybe I can stay.

I ain't got to go home. He might have a washer and dryer in here. Who knows? I need a lot more than that going on to lure the baddies away from these athletes and entertainers after being stressed locked away in the house for a year. They ain't thinking about me. I'm watching their excitement as they're on the floor at the game. All of them.

They can't wait for that shit to open all the way back up. Oh, my God. They out there. Oh, my goodness gracious, man. Every time Devin Booker made a layup. It's fucking cute, bitch. It's fucking cute. This motherfucker looks great and could do it with either hand off the leg.

Zooming by, niggas. He's great, man. He is good. Yeah. Listen, man. I hope that we'll see how it goes. I don't know. I don't know how this shit went.

I got nothing. Me neither. How do you think it went, Mo? How do you think our return episode went? I think it was good, man. I think we addressed some of the questions that I know people had. And I think that was number one. Just addressed that.

Rory, you? How are you feeling? Yeah, I think this was Just Just that Rory You How you feeling Yeah I think I think this is the proper return I actually Actually talked through some shit I actually used the word transparency And

Stand by it Everyone here I thought it was cool I don't think it's something We need to harken back on And make this a Running thing moving forward But yeah

This return episode Let's do this And get back to the funnies After this episode, go home. Just sit down? That's it. That's my advice. Chill out, man.

Feel your mattress on your back. Don't go getting a song done. Don't go run a child session. I actually need to wrap this up. Yeah, actually. I won't be going home. Oh, man. Yo, do remember, we are down next week.

I'm on. Rory don't even know. We're down next week, guys. Yeah, we're down next week. I talked to Joe. Don't tell the fans. Next week, I'm coming here to tell y'all that Rory wouldn't take a picture with me last week. That is a fact.

I'm telling. I'm snitching. I had a bright idea for the artwork this morning. That little list you sent of like our pod rules. I was like, yo, that might be dope. And then I went to read it. No. I read that bad boy back.

I was like, oh, no. This would be horrible. No fucking way. There's a ceiling on transparency. There's a cap. Show me fucking this. Yo, again, I want to thank y'all for listening. Rest in peace, Shock G, DMX.

Yeah, man, we didn't. Black Rob. I want to thank the fans for riding of course gang gang uh thank you to the staff the crew javon alex erab parks uh i want to thank ishan ice me y'all don't have to think about it I'm sure Yeah the lawyers The accountants Ian, Keith

You guys Like I do want to thank Everybody involved Why don't you start More narratives with beef Now we got Beef with Isha Nice No

Yo y'all swear I'm like the narrative king Shit All the comments alone Drake gonna be like Yo why do people think we don't like each other? I'm like,

because Joe creates narratives, man. Fuckers are generally confused. Yeah, because Drake disses you in every Instagram live Joe does. And vice versa. These two guys.

Little cutie patooties. You and Drake. I'm coming in with funnies about that next time too. I understand we have some things to get out of the way, but I wrote my funnies down. Funnies bike.

I didn't even outro this shit, man. Hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, this is not right. This is not right. This is wrong. I'm sorry. All right.

Dear. Thank you, guys. You guys. It's been a long road. This front just sounds like you have something deep to say. Though it gets dark at the end of the tunnel, lightness arrives. Why do you lock yourself up in these chains? When you get to the end of the road lightness arrives. When you get to the end of the road

is the beginning of a road. Come on. Come on, help me out here, buddy. I'm telling you, I was sitting there drinking peppermint tea

and someone told me God put everything on my plate because he knew I was going to eat. And I was like, wait, what? Fuck you up.

What? He was like, I thought it was the weight of the whole thing. Enjoying a blueberry muffin and some tea right now. That fucked me up because at least for a year I would say, yo, God put a lot on Rory's plate. He's dealing with a lot right now.

Yo, we out of here, man. I hope you enjoyed being in our business. Oh, yeah. Joe ruins everything. Oh, everything. I stuck my dick still. Hey. And we out of here, man.

Y'all hold it down. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time. I bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios. Hasta la vista. Arrivederci.

So long. Goodbye. Remember Remember life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last As if it is all that we have That means come to work, you guys What's my other little thing? Oh yeah Do remember the baddies, the insecure, the stagnant. Women want to travel.

And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab an ibuprofen and a muscle relaxer and enjoy your headache. And an Adderall, preferably 30. One of the 30 joints if you need it. Here we go! Here we go! You guys, sometimes somebody's gonna make you want to turn around and say goodbye.

Hey, Wilson said it. One of them. One of them, bitches. Bye. Hold on one more day. Hold on one more day. Hold on one more pod. No, you say it. You call your name.

Y'all don't say that, nigga. One nigga's been here potting to death. Fucking Savon's dying. Look at fucking Scream Man's hoodie. Look what y'all made him put on. Some diamonds to feel good. He put diamonds on the hoodie. fucking Scream Man's hoodie. Look what y'all made him put on. Some diamonds to feel good. He put diamonds on the hoodie. The bedazzled devil hoodie.

Erickson, that motherfucker Erickson, that's my guy right there. That's my guy in park. He don't like anyone in this room. Who, he? They don't like not one person in the world. Bye. Bye