The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 439 | "The Internet"

Starting point is 00:00:00 I want to go ahead and hit the under desk, give everybody time to get their correct head tones, get everybody the time that they need to process, digest, progress. Get the ants off the mics, everybody make sure the ants is off the mics. Everybody make sure the ants is off the mics. My mics sound nice, check one, check one, check two. Let me get a mental health check around the room and a happiness check. E, you good? Alex, you good?

Starting point is 00:00:32 Parks? I'm hanging in there. Sensitivity instructor, you good? All right. Corey, you good? E? Ish? Ice?

Starting point is 00:00:41 That's how men tell you they good, by silence. Yeah, if we're not good, it's silence. Well, yeah. No, that's true, too. That's true. I'm just going to play music. And this is what it feels like. Feels like, feels like.

Starting point is 00:00:56 Got to come in here and sit Indian style on them, huh? We here today screaming. You thought I wasn't coming, right? And this is what it feels like. Come on, say, Vaughn, you thought I wasn't coming here today, right? it feels like come on say Vaughn you thought I wasn't coming here today right you guys gonna stay home in a little cocoon shelled and boiled up in a fetal position in bed not I the only reason I survive cuz a nigga is special first you get successful then it gets stressful thirst

Starting point is 00:01:18 Niggas gon test you see what your texture's worth diamonds and pipes one of em pressure burst street niggas still I get checks and spurts I'm for peace, but before I get pressed, I'm murked Better days, pray for, but expectin' worse At this level, boy, shit, I'm blessed with time I'm cruisin' in the six, lookin' at the proceeds Rap music on my wrist, drop another mixtape My shit boomin' at this bitch, Young Malcolm

Starting point is 00:01:43 I'm the leader of the movement out this bitch I gotta lead, I gotta lead This is what it feels like Reach a level, make you question, is it real life? All the weed good, all the pussy real tight It's real And the only rule, keep your dollar bills right This is what it feels like

Starting point is 00:01:57 Energy high in here Energy high in here I see a dog, you probably didn't see any flashbacks I need all the energy high in here, aight? Vibrations up, frequencies up Energy up, I need some Navi up Voice, I need everybody to sound good, hold up, hold up! Scorpion bricks, way before Orbeez double diss 40 on my lap, clap, sound like 40 did the mix

Starting point is 00:02:22 Filter bass, sip coke, like a Michelin star chef Kiss to my wrist, I go dummy with my left I arrest all my dick, try to audit all my checks Too late, you know they hate when you become more than they expect You let them crack the storm, your capital put they feet up on your desk And yet you talking tough to me, I lost all my little respect I'm sending weed, in the open, bringing folks home from the feds I know the payback gon' be mean, I'm saving all my little red prints

Starting point is 00:02:43 You know what I like? I like that gon' be mean I'm saving all my little red prints for me, y'all One day I'ma have to pay for you I like that Iscatel when I'm ready to party He see me hit that switch and it's like, oh yeah I'm killing niggas in they own hood That make sense to you at all You burnt your bridge to the other side You know you can't swim across Y'all know niggas can't swim They fried my gaffy, die Y'all know niggas can't win You never land, you drove aside I arrived on the day Fred Hampton got murdered Assassinated just to clarify further

Starting point is 00:03:05 We vibin', we groovin' out there The chairman mixed with Jeff Ford The weather's beautiful in New York It's traffic out Black shows on my neck, y'all can't kill Christ Black Messiah They overpricin' the vehicles out there I can't find a car nowhere

Starting point is 00:03:17 We gon' turn the V-Memore Niggas is outside, man What it feels like And this is, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's I mean you can hear it it picks up in the mic when I first came I said I ain't come here to waste But we gonna keep this hoodie on we gonna do what we got to do I'm still celebrating J Cole shout out to him Best three points I ever saw score, you know, let's go back on top punch in the clock clutch insanity I got more cribs to habitat for humanity shit profound. We propagate more profanity I wore that man health as well health as well

Starting point is 00:04:03 Let me get that thank you part We propagate more profanity Paid our collections for recollections of calamity The shit pop off, I learned to duck under the canopy Till it cool off, they murk the nigga right in front of me Told him to come off his chain for trying to floss Died over a cross just like the start of Christianity When I was a boy, the teacher often reprimanded me Thought it was toys, it was a glass snicker It's hot for real up in here, boy Maybe I should stop moving around and all of that

Starting point is 00:04:21 It's hot You done got amped up, that's why you over there sweating I'm amped I see I'm here to do a job I'm here all of that. It's hot. You done got amped up. That's why you over there sweating. I'm amped. I see. I'm here to do a job. I'm here to do a job. It's the gig.

Starting point is 00:04:39 I got it in a rocker. It's going too crazy. Shout out to the youth. Oh. Shout out to the YouTube gang. We back. Triggering a paranoid mindset, now I'm back Teetering, but I ain't enlightening insanity Now that I'm rich, I feel nobody understanding me Shout out to the YouTube gang, we back, we back Can't let the fame scare me off for speaking candidly All them niggas that sold Cain, they saw the singer like Danity Now I'm left here paid like I plan to be, damn

Starting point is 00:04:57 Last one Last one, Last one. It's just the last one. I'm taking my hoodie off. I got to do it. It's too hot. It's too hot. It's too hot.

Starting point is 00:05:10 Too much to get to. It's too much to talk about. Motherfuckers. This 97. Hide my niggas and my niggarettes. That's doing like this. I'm going to rub your ass in the moonshine. That's taking back the 79. Come on, man.

Starting point is 00:05:22 It's getting hot outside. I'm warm atomically. Some of us was out there when this came out I cut school to get this one Special place in my heart with this June 23rd I think, 1997 Yeah come on man, summertime, it was getting hot I needed this

Starting point is 00:05:42 Y'all don't remember the enhanced CD that you put in the computer that had the game with it? No, I do. Y'all don't remember. You wasn't outside. You wasn't outside. I know. You had some tape. It's over there.

Starting point is 00:05:54 Like, I know there's a whole version of this. I know Jay-Z did this at some point. All right, I'm giving them one verse and we good. That's six minutes of music. Here we go. Damn, how you gonna play? You can't we good. That's six minutes of music. Here we go. Damn, how you gonna play that? That's a method, man. As the world turns, I spread like germs.

Starting point is 00:06:13 Hey! The hard-headed never learn. Come on, man. There's really no right place to cut that song off. At all. Well, there's no hook. There's no no right place to cut that song off. At all. Well, there's no hook. There's no chorus in it. And where do you cut that off?

Starting point is 00:06:30 Where do you cut off man from TV? You don't. You don't, yeah. These are songs you don't. These are songs you don't cut off. Songs you really aren't even supposed to play like a verse of. So, I failed you. I failed you in that.

Starting point is 00:06:41 I failed you. I failed you in that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, new i guess microphone check one two what is this it's me i'm here i'm your host what episode is this 4 30 what eight i think nine four thirty eight four thirty nine nine oh pardon me welcome to episode 439 of the joe button podcast i'm your humble gracious grateful and highly favored host joe button here with a few really good guys erab is here alex screen man is here parks parks hive is here ish can't spell issues without issues here ice from the icicles is here our sensitivity instructor is here uh uh uh fuck savon the don is here cory i'm sorry savon cory is here. Corey, I'm sorry, Savon. Corey is here, and E is here, and there's a strange dog in the vicinity yet again. What is the name of this dog?

Starting point is 00:07:52 Roscoe. Roscoe. Mace. Mace. Mace. All right. All right. Hello to Mace.

Starting point is 00:07:59 How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's going on? No, no, no. Thumbs up me. Thumbs up me. As good as can be, Joe. Give it to me.

Starting point is 00:08:04 Give it to me. Give it to me. As good as can be, Joe. Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me. As good as can be. There we go. Give me a little iffy if you iffy. The sideways thumb. Give me iffy if you iffy. It's rough.

Starting point is 00:08:13 It's been heavy. It's mental health month. Shout out to all the mental health people out there, the advocates, the people that may or may not be going through something. Shout out to everybody that's having a bout or a hard time with depression. Shout out to everybody that's having a bout or a hard time with depression. Shout out to everybody, period. Just because we've been cooped up in the house for a really long time,

Starting point is 00:08:29 outside is about to open. Listen, I think that shit is going to have a big effect on people in ways that we do not know. Or we're learning in real time. When outside opens up. No, having been inside

Starting point is 00:08:38 for 18 months or whatever it is now. That's true. I flew somewhere. I flew somewhere. I went to meet the chauffeur at Baggage Claim. I went to meet the chauffeur at baggage claim. I went to shake his hand. He gave me the fist.

Starting point is 00:08:49 I said, I'm vaccinated. It's okay. He said, no, it's not that. I'm never shaking hands again with anyone because that's what the pandemic has done to me. It's not so much COVID. I haven't got a cold. I think it was Fonte that said something about that.

Starting point is 00:09:03 I'm always wearing a mask because I've learned too much about people during this pandemic. I like that. Like, people do not wash their hands. People are out coughing in public all over the place. I felt them on that. Coughing their hand. Coughing their hand.

Starting point is 00:09:14 Dap you right on the- It's nasty. Walking outside with a flu, no problem. It's nasty. I've learned a lot. I'm kind of in fist bump game. Big Sean said that. I can't dap you without hands saying, I don't know where your dirty ass hands been. I'm fist bumping. Big Sean said that. I can't dap you without hands saying

Starting point is 00:09:25 I don't know where your dirty ass hands been. I'm fist bumping everybody now. I don't even apologize for the left fist no more. I just give it. The nearest fist, bomb,

Starting point is 00:09:32 bomb. I don't have time. You might get an elbow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Just don't touch me. So I totally understand that. But even deeper than that,

Starting point is 00:09:42 last year we saw on the news that mental health was an issue because people have been in the house yeah because people been fucked up people have been losing their jobs people have been going through it and losing their people no divorces all that shit and the last episode the last episode that i was here the therapist was here and she let everybody here know hey my job is skyrocketing. I'm booming. I'm talking to people through Zoom. I'm pulling up.

Starting point is 00:10:10 I'm getting money, and y'all going to pay me for me being at this podcast. Yes, you did. Go ahead now. Let me get the ear on. A round of applause for Alicia. Shout out to Alicia, man. I enjoyed that. That was good.

Starting point is 00:10:20 I did. I did. There seems to be a lot of people out there that got some positive information from that so listen man let's give well first he said he's doing shaky

Starting point is 00:10:30 does anybody else does anybody else have anything pertinent pressing against their heart that they need to share I'm seeing you gentlemen in a little while

Starting point is 00:10:39 we will so let me lead off let's start with the serious stuff serious stuff first I me Joe Budden along with the serious stuff. Serious stuff first. I, me, Joe Budden, along with the Joe Budden Network. Oh, Olivia Dope, an apology. We issued one, but she needs to hear it with my voice on a podcast. Well, you know, on a podcast, there was an inappropriate joke made, an ill-timed joke made, a poor attempt at humor made at a time when it shouldn't have been made.

Starting point is 00:11:09 And unfortunately, me and the entire room of people missed that. That was our bad. That was our failure. And we didn't know until she was able to communicate that, until she was somewhere comfortable with enough strength to communicate how uncomfortable she was in that moment and for that we failed you we failed you we not only felt not we me failed Olivia Bridget Mandy all of the women that work at the network all of the women that we represent all of the women that we work with daily on camera and off, it's our job as men to just make the space as comfortable as possible at all times. And when that doesn't happen, I have to take full responsibility for it. And I will. We will be better. We will make improvements. We will make adjustments. We've already begun with that process.

Starting point is 00:12:12 Spent a lot of time yesterday on the phone just trying to make trying to interview and audition for the proper hires. We need we need people that are a bit more sensitive to these matters than I am. We need more women in the room, black women, preferably. We need a general manager. We need a we need a line producer so that the proper changes can be made at all times. I need to get my head in the game. In an attempt to make this a real casual and comfortable atmosphere, I dropped the ball and that cannot, it cannot and will not happen. Part of the reason I wanted to roll out with two all women podcasts was to let women know that we were here in support of them for their voices to be amplified. We wanted to create

Starting point is 00:12:53 opportunities. We wanted to just add support in any area that they may have needed it. So to have this issue arise with the first podcast that you roll out and for there to be a misstep that's that way it's extremely disappointing and it's more so disappointing that that was the effort to make things lighter that that was what i thought was the right thing to ease temperatures in that moment and i'm an idiot for it. Yeah, I think it's time for sensitivity training for you, Joe.

Starting point is 00:13:29 Maybe. Maybe I'm open to it. And I'm open to have somebody whose sole job is to check the sensitivity in the room. Yeah, but you need to be aware of the sensitivities as well. Yes. That's it. And this is not an attempt to

Starting point is 00:13:44 clean the you know people like us for being rowdy here this is not necessarily at an expense of that it's just not an expense of other people

Starting point is 00:13:53 I agree I totally agree and I do want to apologize to Olivia for my part in any of this I'm sorry Olivia I was in the room

Starting point is 00:14:02 yeah people was people was people I saw people in me like, oh, what are you going to say? Did you see the vid? And I'm like, uh, yeah, I saw it and I agree. Yeah, me too. The fuck? People should, people should feel free to be comfortable wherever they are at all times.

Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, man. Y'all ain't over here. Y'all comfortable? Y'all letting me cook, right? y'all ain't over here y'all comfortable y'all letting me cook right they're keeping their little reps clean as can be listen we wasn't there man listen the thing about therapy the thing about therapy therapy i had the therapist come in here on friday the thing about therapy is even if you don't receive it in the moment, it just changes how you view certain things. That's what it does.

Starting point is 00:14:49 It should change your perspective on certain things. And that's what me and my therapist do. So I really enjoyed that last episode where she was giving it up. Me too. But what happened following that was what normally happens for me following that. The universe just kind of opens up and you have all these epiphanies, and you start looking at things. So Saturday came right after the episode. I went to—it was a beautiful day outside.

Starting point is 00:15:12 My baby-free weekend. You guessed it. I went right out there to have something to eat. I went to my little favorite soul food spot, then I went to the movies. I didn't even know the movies was open. I can't wait to go to the movies again. I went to the movies. Never going to the movies again. No? No. Damn.

Starting point is 00:15:28 HBO Max has spoiled me. Damn, it's the experience, though. Yeah, it's the experience. Sitting in a movie theater is an experience. I got a nice, big-ass TV. I need that fake liquid butter. I need all that. Yeah, I'm good. I went to the movies. I might go see another Marvel movie. That's it. If it ain't a big Marvel, I'm done. I usually only

Starting point is 00:15:43 go for big events and movies anyway. Yeah, but again, the experience of going to the movies is more than the movie. I did it a million times. It doesn't change. So, it's great every time.

Starting point is 00:15:53 What are you guys arguing about? Going to the movies. What is this, friend? Come on, going to the movies. You were telling your story. I went to the movies. What'd you see? And it was very nostalgic.

Starting point is 00:16:03 It was a great experience. ordered food i reclined the seat i saw a spiral how was it uh i don't know because savon was hitting me the whole movie to tell me about whatever was happening online i didn't know I was in the movies and it was a beautiful day Spiral dropped I saw all the saws I was the guy saying

Starting point is 00:16:33 yo the same way I was saying McDonald's needs all day breakfast and then they did it and I never ate it I was the guy saying how could they kill Saw he has to kill again. Yeah, I went to see Spiral. Chris Rock, I was into it.

Starting point is 00:16:47 Here comes Saban. When Saban hit me on a Saturday, dog, this ain't about to be good. What do you want? What do you want? And sure enough, there's another movie going on another spiral

Starting point is 00:17:09 another spiral beautiful lighting 4k it was going down sorry Chris Rock I have to waste this $17.99 oh so I come out the movie theater. I got my shades on.

Starting point is 00:17:27 I go, it's the love. I'm feeling good. They like, oh, we're on your ass. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Everyone simmer down. Relax. They didn't relax. No, they're still not relaxed.

Starting point is 00:17:42 Yeah, they've been going all weekend. They're not stopping. Then Marissa put out an interview with Adam 22. She expressed some hurt and pain over how she was removed from the pod. So I already, y'all learned me. Ain't no internet. Ain't no internet. Zero dark 30s, guys.

Starting point is 00:18:05 Y'all win. You went dark? No Wi-Fi. No connection. Not even checking to see if the connection is on. Putting the phone down. I am an internet OG. I know how this works.

Starting point is 00:18:22 I know when I'm not wanted here. I know when people aren't The happiest to see me Guess what I put the phone down It's fucking mental health month-ish They didn't care about our mental health It's mental health month You think I'ma sit up there

Starting point is 00:18:41 Read all these fucking meanies Saying shit Listen I get on Insta Live, right? And this is ownership. This is ownership and accountability. I get on Insta Live. My dumb ass starts trying to explain to the people.

Starting point is 00:18:54 Yo, man, now this is what's going on in the shit. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, this. Yo, the dog. Nah, this is what the contract say. Nah. Nah, the accountant is. you, nigga. Yo, the dog. Nah, this is what the contract say. Nah. Nah, the accountant is. No, nah.

Starting point is 00:19:08 Man. Nah. They tore your fucking ass. But let's get deeper than that. I'm here to lean into the transparency. Why am I trying to understand any of them? Why am I trying to explain any of this to any of them? You guys have built a space where they feel.

Starting point is 00:19:23 A spilt is fucking. Here we go. Here we us fucking here we go here we go here we go no i'm coming in here with truth today buddy i don't want to hear you created a space to thought leaders no i don't want to hear it you created a space where they feel as though they know you guys right that's one of the beauties of the pot yeah they feel as though they personally know you they are are personally invested. No lie. I was getting shit when Marlon Rory came back.

Starting point is 00:19:49 Motherfucker's like, dog, you ain't tweeting like a week. Come on, come on, come on. Like, you ain't leaving us. I'm like, oh, okay. So they feel like they know.

Starting point is 00:19:59 You belong to them now. Yeah, they feel like they know you guys. You are theirs, buddy. So that's why you have to show them and answer them, et tried i tried it got exhausting though it got to a point where it's like all right i got they got to me i don't get you're a troll and they got to you they got to me yeah you're a tweet god but the deeper point but the deeper point is this now that i've stepped back looked in the mirror and realized that I failed in this

Starting point is 00:20:27 and I take accountability in this, the fans ain't going to understand it. Maul and Rory don't understand it. I often at times don't understand it. at times don't understand it my mom and dad don't understand it what is this business I don't think your mom and dad understand it and some of the people with all of the business degrees that then went to Harvard Law and Boston this and that they don't understand it either nobody gets it it's a lot to get I mean we try to we try to simplify it as best we could but it's a lot to get and that's what I realized watching that watching that thing I watched Marissa I watched Maul and Rory and then I watched all of the slander that began to come about right I watched the headlines come from Kevin Hart. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:21:31 Kevin Hart, you Joe Budden failed as a leader of men. And then I clicked on it to listen to it a little bit. And I got in my feelings a little bit. And I was coming in here. Oh, boy, you little motherfucker. Just one shot? Yeah, put it back. Just one shot.

Starting point is 00:21:53 Put him down. Little tiny ass nigga. But I'm kidding, of course. No, I'm not. I was going to come in here and say, Kevin Hart, you motherfucker. Then I seen, I didn't see. Here come Corey to come in here and say, Kevin Hart, you motherfucker. Then I seen on. I didn't see. Here come Corey to show it to me. Anthony, Anthony.

Starting point is 00:22:09 What's Nas man name? Anthony. Anthony Saylor. Anthony Saylor, Nas manager. I've met him before. I may have seen him around. But either way, he put something out and said, Joe Budden failed as a leader. I was coming in here to say you mother.

Starting point is 00:22:28 And I mean, right when I thought about all of that. You said they're right. Does it? Ding, ding, ding. They're right. They're right. We can't talk about the need for there to be this community of men to share information with each other. Right. Because there's no blueprint to this thing. There's no pamphlet.

Starting point is 00:22:50 Whatever I'm trying to do, I'm trying to do in real time, not only in real time, but in front of the public eye. And I can't think of another executive that's done it. It's a very difficult task at hand. It takes a lot of management of personalities, a lot of understanding of things. The more I listen to Kevin Hart talk and the more I read Anthony Salad's tweet is the more I realized that all of the things that I had been saying to other people actually applied to me. Like there's just been a lot of emotions running rampant around here and it's gonna be the last the last time that i address this stuff because i'm gonna take ownership for all of it there's been a lot of emotions everywhere running rampant and i missed that too

Starting point is 00:23:38 we're all caught up in it. Still are, probably. Y'all can do that. Yeah, sure. I cannot. Fans included. Fans can do that. When we talk about hurt, we talking about fans being invested and hurt. Business people watching with objectives and agendas, watching being hurt. We got all participants involved being hurt.

Starting point is 00:24:06 They don't have nothing to do with nothing, they get thrown in the shit right again parents there's just hurt parties all around it's tough to do business with that type of hurt it's tough to do business with so much emotion and for the last few months i'm gonna come clean i have been consumed with everyone's emotions. Everyone in regards to this podcast. Ian, for all of the work that he does, all the business that he does. He can't really. He loves me. He's biased now. He's got to go. See, that's the part that when I watch them to talk I got to really dig into the hurt and pain and why it exists why they believe some of the things they believe true or not true

Starting point is 00:24:52 why does it exist why do they believe it well they're not going to believe it from me for whatever the reason be who cares they're not going to believe it from Ian Ian don't Ian loves me Ian is me for me either they're not going to believe it from Ian. Ian loves me. They're not going to believe it from me either. They're not going to believe it from you. Nope. Whoever the accountant is, you could have picked Jesus from the sky. We're not going to believe it from them. We're not going to believe it.

Starting point is 00:25:15 That's what those gentlemen were saying. And the whole time they've been saying that behind the scenes for years, harboring this unhappiness. And I've been saying yo what the fuck are you talking about you're paid everything is going according to plan but that's not leadership leadership is if they don't understand what's going on I have to find a way to explain it what's going on, I have to find a way to explain it. However, the pay structure is set up. However, the pay is disseminated. All of the different tentacles and avenues that you have and that needs to be explained. And if it never was, that falls on nobody but me. I'm here to own it. That's me. It don't matter that we only ever signed one deal see because when you respond with that type of

Starting point is 00:26:06 it gets combative they're saying accountant accountant accountant I'm saying ain't no accountant you got the accountant like you said a lot over three years but the fact remains that you have not resolved the accounting and if you don't resolve it and it keeps escalating and escalating and escalating what happens is a pimple versus cancer. The pimple, you leave it, it'll go away. The cancer, you leave it, it'll kill you. And that's what happened. And for these gentlemen to be my friends at one point. And for us to hang out so much at one point and to talk so much at one point for these things to be misunderstood nobody has to wear that but me that's me I can't be mad at nothing they say

Starting point is 00:26:50 from the hurt from the hurt and anger side of things because what part did I play in putting it there so when I wanted to come scream on Kevin Hart I wanted to say yo dog I saw the docks with you I saw you fall out with your man over something wild when I was watching it I thought it was wild I was more elated that I saw you piece it up with your mans I'm glad I got to see that I'm glad y'all chose to show that because we don't normally get to see that from such an entity, right? Right. I also saw you get shook down by your man and have to handle that.

Starting point is 00:27:30 I also saw what you deal with, whatever you dealt with from the Oscars. Like, I seen it. And right as I was saying all that, I thought, oh, shit, God, thank you. Wow. Perfect person for me to talk to. And I called him.

Starting point is 00:27:43 Mm. And he said said you failed and I said Kev but but but but but this but this but this but this no but this is what no but and he said not in these words but how I take it now so what oh two words never changed my life so much so what but how do you interpret how do you internalize it so what because for me now it's not just so what it's so what now what then what it's a math problem so what they did all of that so what you feel hurt you feel betrayed they feel this none of matters. You have one common goal, which was to get your team somewhere. And you didn't do it.

Starting point is 00:28:29 You failed. All of the people above that have been where I am, the shit I keep saying is no pamphlet for it, they freestyled their way to it. Those are the people that can tell me, yo, clear and obvious mistake what you did there. Not the fucking on Insta live. that can tell me, yo, clear and obvious mistake what you did there. Not the fucking on Insta Live.

Starting point is 00:28:50 What are we doing here? Why do I have to keep being combative with my old co-hosts because they don't understand something I don't understand and they don't believe me? Guess what? I didn't understand it either. Because the other thing that Kev said, which we'll get when you get past the emotions, facts are facts. The facts are the facts. You don't have to believe me, but I have to find some type of way to let you know that the information is true.

Starting point is 00:29:22 Now, let's take all the emotion out of it because I'm going to address this. And hopefully we don't have to continue to address it, because today I'm not at a place where I want to see people harbor all this ill will and this hurt and this pain just because it was never communicated properly. Right. So this this is the root and crux of the problem or was the crux of the problem. And this is where I failed at. Back to too many emotions. When you say the accounting is wrong, maybe the accountant is offended. Maybe Ian's offended. When you say that the show was on, maybe maybe this person's offended. Maybe the co-host is offended. If everybody's offended, you can't think through it. The bottom line is this. I own this and

Starting point is 00:30:06 I chose an accounting company I'm speaking of the old room the accounting company I chose I trust as someone that has been robbed by every accounting company that I've ever been to I've had all my money taken I've had lump I've little pieces taken without you telling me I've had all my money taken I've had little pieces taken Without you telling me I've been robbed by accountants a few times This one I happen to trust I've been around long enough to know That when you've been in the game for 20 years When you get with somebody you can trust, keep them

Starting point is 00:30:35 Ian, I trust Only because I've had mad managers where it didn't go right It took 20 years But there's an accountant I trust Ian, I trust There's fucking accountant I trust. Ian, I trust. There's fucking lawyers I trust. There's people that I'm compatible with in business now.

Starting point is 00:30:58 So if you're wondering why it looks like there has been progress over the last few years, there's an ecosystem behind the scenes that I really, really, really respect. Not only do I respect, but the account, my account, I don't think was looking for any more clients when he took me I would go as far as telling you who my accountant is but his job ain't podcasting those people need to be in the back doing what they do but if I told you who my accountant was you'd realize that his family has done the accounting in the entire music business for probably most of my life when i came in his family was running accounting in the music business some people some people might say that as a negative though it's all the horror stories we've heard about you can receive and you can receive it that way. That's why this is my testimony. And I'm saying I trust this accountant. Bingo.

Starting point is 00:31:52 Right? And that's important to know. I can't get mad at them for not trusting any of the information. Because when I step back and look at it and look what happened, I have to own it. I came in here for mad months and said millions are on the table and i'm turning it down to go take a deal where i'm not getting a dollar think about it ain't no time for emotions here really think about why these two dudes might feel the way that they feel yeah i'd be pissed you would be fucking mortified

Starting point is 00:32:26 not only is this dude saying he turned down all of these millions of dollars that i didn't know nothing about but somehow got the nerve to come in here with all of these stupid fucking dad hats on where the fuck is he getting all of these stupid dad ads from? These are normal inquiries. It's not a normal decision that somebody would make, number one. Number two, everybody don't have the work ethic to get to that point in the game where you can deny that type of shit. I can't expect people to understand that. I can no longer be mad at these two dudes because they didn't get it I got to be mad at me for failing to disseminate that information properly and for that I apologize

Starting point is 00:33:16 I'm sorry I don't doubt the universe and I never doubt what the universe is doing I always follow it I'm not saying this so there could be some type of big reconciliation party I'm fine with where we stand today but they should know that all of that information on the accounting was accurate even in divorce you should know that because the facts remain the facts Rory when you go around saying you don't respect accounting on an Excel spreadsheet, I go and call other accountants because maybe you're right. Like I'm listening to everybody. Maybe you're right. When I go call those people, the other accountants, they have nothing to do with my business. They say they do accounting on an Excel spreadsheet. Then I go to my history. Any account I've ever seen in my life was on an Excel spreadsheet.

Starting point is 00:34:12 Maybe there's a cooler way. I don't know. But you'd be damned if I'm going to tell the man that's been doing it for 60, 70 years that the way he has set up his entire business is off. It's a smack in the face. It's out of bounds. Maybe I communicated that wrong. My bad. But that that is where the conflict goes.

Starting point is 00:34:37 And that conflict goes to I listen. And it was just so much they didn't know. More didn't know why the pay would be like that on touring, when the venue was $3,000, when the venue was $1,500. He said that. He said, how could the money ever be the same? For him to ask that, I have failed.

Starting point is 00:34:56 Because you should have explained this is what it is and why it's this way. Yeah. We should have been having those talks along the whole way. There should have been those surprises. I never knew that he didn't know how that could happen. Because I could have tried to explain, well, there's a whole lot of ways where that could happen. You could agree to some deals.

Starting point is 00:35:19 You could agree to the guarantee before you ever go on the road. You could do six shows, agree to some shit, then go on the road, fucking, the prices ain't the same, the New York tickets ain't gonna be the same as the tickets over here, the price of the fucking staff over here won't be the same as the staff over here, it might be huge, walk by traffic over here in a busy city, maybe we do a door deal, even though the science and data says we shouldn't do a door deal over, it's so much poker, do a door deal even though the science and data says we shouldn't do a door deal over it's so much poker and that's where i was getting mad and frustrated because every single decision when it comes to pod involves so much poker and data and science and if y'all don't know and you're just taking it for granted and you just i would have never known maul felt like me saying i got

Starting point is 00:36:00 the line around the corner was an indictment against his shine. I would have known that. If I say I got the line around the corner, I'm just proud. I'm only proud. And that sentence is true. If Maul would have said it, if Brewery would have said it, if Parks would have said it, anybody that contributed can say that at that time. I get it. I never, for me to not have my head in the

Starting point is 00:36:25 game that way for me to not know i started to feel it after a little while but to not know that i couldn't express the joy and happiness that came from my life changing right before my very eyes yeah that's deep you missed some steps you missed some steps. Kevin Hart is absolutely correct. Anthony Sela is absolutely correct. And I think the other thing, you're operating not as business owner, not as head of the network. You were operating more as friend in these situations, which was why. I think it was both. Another mistake. I think everybody involved, including myself, at times act.

Starting point is 00:37:16 That is a mistake, though. That is a mistake. That's what I'm saying. Did not play their role. Because everyone here is kind of independent contractors anyway. So you're really technically kind of your own business. And everyone should move that way everyone has failed not doing so but not them that's where the

Starting point is 00:37:30 friendship part coming like this is my independent contractor I'm an independent contractor we just we're a unit we moving this way okay but then I hear you turning down deals here but it's a shitload of money like I feel like some information is not getting back to me.

Starting point is 00:37:46 That's where the questions could come from. I have failed. I failed in that. I'm agreeing. I'm agreeing. But listen, this is the issue. What I said the deal was is what the deal is. This is where the problem comes into play, and this is where... Listen, I spent a whole damn near few months tearing down a company or trying to.

Starting point is 00:38:05 I said every bad thing you could say about Spotify, right? I still have a contract with Spotify that even though you're not in it, there are things in it where you have to honor. The second I breached that, I think they would come and attack me legally because I talk so much shit about them right so when Rory and Moon say yo we hear what you're saying dog but we need to uh see the money that went into a bank account we need to see your contract we need to see something from Spotify that says this is what you got I can't show it to you I can't show it to you and the second i ever showed it to you i would lie and say i didn't why is that because it's the law it's in the contract nobody should know the details of this contract this is private all the little lawyer words this is a private pertinent indiscretion if you do it we'll throw you in jail we'll fuck you up all that shit that it says at the end if ish is mad at me somehow and goes around saying the contents of that contract to anybody and it

Starting point is 00:39:11 comes back i wear it legally i have deals in place where you just can't talk about certain things it don't matter to friendship that puts me legally liable if Rory who is disgruntled shares with anyone anything that might be true in that contract and there's the stalemate yeah it didn't have to be though but that's where it is it shouldn't have to be I agree. But that's the way it is. It shouldn't have had to be. I agree. I agree with you. I'm trying to be as politically correct as possible.

Starting point is 00:39:57 Y'all had a unique situation where it was business and it was friendship, right? So in the friendship piece, if the friendship is genuine and it's sincere, I'm going to take what you're saying for face value. Right. But that would be stupid. So I'm going to read my contract. I'm going to ask questions. If I feel you doing something funny, I'm going to go get my own lawyer. I'm going to go get my own accountant. I'm going to try to get to the bottom of it as best I possibly could. Right? So, I think in hearing, you're saying you signed a deal with Spotify. Right? No, I'm just saying I failed. I ain't even getting

Starting point is 00:40:33 the particulars no more. No, no, but you said that they couldn't see the Spotify work because you would be held liable. Mm. Right? Which means that

Starting point is 00:40:42 they didn't have a deal with Spotify. No. I think that was one't have a deal with Spotify. No, I think that was one of their biggest from what I'm hearing and seeing. That was one of the biggest misconstruances. Then that is a misstep for me. If there's any if there's any part of this that's unclear, then your problem i did not make it clear because the facts are still the facts yeah i agree no no no i saw a clip somebody on twitter posted a clip and rory was like um you're like yo you're an intern you're the greatest intern or something

Starting point is 00:41:16 he's like intern i'm not an intern i'm a part owner and you started laughing like oh you need to check your paperwork buddy and he's like oh i have i've seen it a million times but that's and that's important that was three or four years ago and there was no paperwork i don't know but i'm just saying that was three or four years ago and there was and there was no paperwork we was in ferrari's house there was no paperwork i'm not spreading the business because i'm the network and i can't it's against the law i will not do it but that needs to be spoken about as creators. There's no contract there. And clearly from that vid,

Starting point is 00:41:50 you could see he wants ownership. Well, he assumed that he had some ownership. Well, there's no contract and he knew that. So we playing around. He didn't know. That's the problem. He didn't know. But it's not on paper.

Starting point is 00:41:59 So that's fine. He cannot know. I cannot know. It cannot be established. It's not on paper. This is very important for creative people and entrepreneurs to get with. When it was time for a contract, it's time to fight. Not fight, but it's time to negotiate.

Starting point is 00:42:15 It's time to say what you want, tell your lawyer, tell your representation, so they can best go about trying to get that for you. So when that time comes and you got a contract, and you and I have fought about every everything money because of monopoly when that contract comes and you go through it with your attorney and you start fighting for different things and on the side you you call me to say yo my lawyer said and we trying to get this done I assume that you going through the process with your lawyer and you going through and're fighting for what you want and it's in there and when you sign it my bad again i assume that you are very familiar with all that's there and that's a mistake ish that's my fault and that you're satisfied because

Starting point is 00:42:55 you signed it yeah that's that's that can't be my position because i am and it's not my position my position is if you want anybody unhappy here can go. Anybody unhappy in a contract, the contract don't exist no more. Anybody unhappy with anything, that's my position. It can't be. Dan, what was I just saying? What was you just saying? Before you get there, what was you just saying before that?

Starting point is 00:43:18 I don't want to forget my point. I was talking about Rory voicing that he felt as though he was an owner. Oh, yeah. So people's misunderstanding of their contract. On the friendly side, maybe you should come in and explain it. Maybe. What I'm saying is too many times I, as a creator, have been at the negotiating table, signed some shit because I needed to or for another

Starting point is 00:43:45 reason didn't really fight I missed something my lawyer was unprepared it was against a better lawyer plenty of times you go in it and you wake up one day when you're looking for information you realize oh shit I'm in a shit show contract I never want to put nobody in that so I would never present that to nobody a shit show contract but typically when you're in a contract you don't want to be in you gotta wait it out i waited 17 years to get out of my publishing deal i waited eight years to have some sort of separation in my production deal with my guys webb coming home soon free to free the guy fucking uh i waited however many years to get out my def jam contract i had to work my way out of the E1 contract.

Starting point is 00:44:25 Like once you sign your name, it's there, so much merit in it. Good, bad, or indifferent. So if you're receiving your contract like it's bad, and you're unhappy with it,

Starting point is 00:44:34 I don't want to run on too much. But I was responsible. I failed. They didn't know. You did. For me, I still don't think they know, but that can't be my responsibility today.

Starting point is 00:44:46 It should have been. I should have handled it better. And Kevin Hart is absolutely right. And Anthony Saylor is absolutely right. I wish everybody would have went through the proper channels with lawyers and accountants as opposed to talking to each other. Because none of you are lawyers and accountants or managers. So you shouldn't be answering Rory's questions about accounting because you're not an accountant. Well, that's why I always try to defer to an accountant.

Starting point is 00:45:08 That's been my most frustrating thing. That's why I told him the first night when we were first fighting about it, please just do it with professionals and not each other. That is the best way to do it. And if Joe calls and yells at you about something that your professional said, say, okay, Joe, and hang up the phone because your professionals are handling it. But see, even in that, talk about joe calling a yell and there's a lot of narratives going around

Starting point is 00:45:28 like joe is just a madman yelling but behind camera i talk pretty sensibly so when rory tells the story and this is me taking emotion out of him going to take a title meeting while i'm negotiating with title that's inappropriate and i let him know that it was out of bounds inappropriate and i let him know firmly that was taking the friendship vibes off. But you heard what he said. Oh, he called and he screamed at me. And he,

Starting point is 00:45:52 that was out of line. I'm trying to bang people over the head for seven figures. They're offering us 20, 30 and 40 grand a month. This shit costs way more than this to run. I'm asking for way more than that. I want way more than 40 grand a month. This shit costs way more than this to run. I'm asking for way more than that. I want way more than 40 grand a month. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:46:11 So yeah, that was out of bounds. And I'm taking responsibility for even that. For all of the things that I saw in that video where it just seemed like they didn't understand, I'm owning that. That's not on them. Joe, let me ask you a question. Ask me whatever you want,

Starting point is 00:46:24 but please speak into the microphone. I am speaking into the mic. It's right here. You were yawning by the... No, I wasn't that. That's not on them. Joe, let me ask you a question. Ask me whatever you want, but please speak into the microphone. I am speaking into the mic. It's right here. You were yawning by the... Joe, that... Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Listen, me...

Starting point is 00:46:34 I failed. I know you failed, but I just want to... I was the one... All right, hold on, hold on, hold on. If they... This is watching all of the clips that I've seen. From what I'm understanding. It's up to you.

Starting point is 00:46:47 No, I ain't talking about that. This whole percentage-based agreement thing, contract, from what you just said, you can't go over the details of the Spotify deal, correct? Yeah. So if someone has a percentage-based deal with you, which is based off of that, and they can't get that number, you can't see how that could create some kind of a... Of course. All right, well... That's all I was... I just didn't get... But that's the difference from...

Starting point is 00:47:12 What do you... That's the difference from you not receiving a number to you not believing the number you've received. That's the difference from not having received a number to, hey, I don't like what these numbers, the story that these numbers say, or I don't understand these numbers. Now, where did they come from? Who's the accountant? What is this Excel sheet? Who the fuck put this together? Where's this? That's just not the best way to do it. I'm not attacking how they did it. They did what they felt best to do when they were comfortable to do it. I'm taking ownership for how I handle the duress, the stress, and the job of leading men to one common goal. That's it. Failed.

Starting point is 00:47:50 I failed in that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Parks. E, Alex, you two brother. No, now I'm iced. Now it's just one brother. It was you two brothers. Now it's just one brother over It was you two brothers. Now it's just one brother over there.

Starting point is 00:48:06 But yeah, man. Get the fuck out of here, man. I owe you an apology. Yeah, no, I don't know. Listen, I would love to talk about topics. I haven't had internet. I haven't had Wi-Fi. I haven't seen anything.

Starting point is 00:48:19 I haven't heard anything. The power in being able to just put the phone down. Now when that little thing pop up where the phone tries to tell me my screen time on things, I'm proud. You got that turned on? I'm proud. That shit off. Yeah, yeah. I know how long I've been on the phone.

Starting point is 00:48:35 It's been in my hand. All day. Fuck out of here. I need you to tell me this. All day long. See, but I like the little tricks that the phone does. I like when it tells me how many steps I took during the day. I like that. How many miles I walked up and down the house i keep that on i like that

Starting point is 00:48:49 the screen time thing i like but putting the phone down for a little bit and stepping away let me tell you i got a lot more work done same i did i got a lot more work done i woke up monday so energized so revitalized refreshed people hitting me yo are you okay are you good I was like yo I'm I'm it's right back to work it's back to work for me it's time to hire the proper people audition people uh strengthen the infrastructure in a way to where we just protect it and are protecting at all times, man. I want to apologize to anybody I need to apologize to. Why is the internet so mean? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:49:29 I don't know. Fuck y'all. Why is the internet so mean? You're one of them. Yeah, you are one of them. The internet thrives off negativity. That's why the internet is so mean. Society, unfortunately, thrives off negativity.

Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah, everything he says sounds depressing, man. Hold up. Everything he says makes me sound sad. Mic check. Savon over there with the sad face all day long. You okay, man? Are you good? Bring the beat in.

Starting point is 00:49:53 Bring the beat in, man. Come on. Yeah, get a little two-step in the dog. Get the dog bouncing. What the fuck is going on out here? You know what I mean? It's still mental health month. Be damned if I'ma read all you comments from you strangers. Hey, you YouTubers, type away, man.

Starting point is 00:50:12 We've been gone for a few weeks. We here now for you to get off for your fucking hate. Oh, yeah, they doing it. I'm not looking at none of it, but I got a job to do, so I'm here. Bring it in. none of it but I got a job to do so I'm here gotta get the vibes right man get away from the black cloud the dark energy is getting hot out keep the frequencies and the vibrations high up here. Baby, it's you. You're the one I love. Happy Wednesday out there.

Starting point is 00:50:49 You're the only one I need. Even though I failed you, I'm still here rocking with you. Baby, it's you. You're the one that gives me all. You're the one I can always call. When I need you, man, everything's up. Finally, you put my heart on the floor So, Ice, what happened on the internet?

Starting point is 00:51:08 What has happened on the internet? Update me, inform me. I don't know nothing that happened. I'm not seeing it. I'm not watching. I want to shout out to J. Cole again, just cause. Just cause. Nah, man.

Starting point is 00:51:18 Nope, I don't care. I don't care. He stepped out first. What an album. You try to deny him His props I did the best I could But listen

Starting point is 00:51:27 Excuse me That project gets better Every time I hear it Every time I hear it Bless you Allergies make me feel like So less of a man Man allergies

Starting point is 00:51:36 Look what you just Eyes are on fire We're dying over here man God damn Cole an amazing project man annoying when i'm when i learned the song titles and i try to type it in and i'm wrong because you put dots and spaces and all types of all that i'm so pissed at that who told him to do the track list like cam newton like just just type just type normal dog so i could type it in but what a project gets better

Starting point is 00:52:02 every time and i really like relating to and identifying with some of the shit Cole is saying. And he scored three points, had three rebounds and two assists in his African League debut. Had a triple single. Yeah, it's dope. That was the best triple single I ever saw. Word is born.

Starting point is 00:52:19 Shout out to Cole. Shout out to the league he's in, and shout out to the burning hoop on the cover, baby. Because that's hard. I feel bad. I'm getting off this, but I feel bad for making fun of the burning hoop. And I like the fact that the fans kind of told you, Joe, you can't talk about nobody's album covers.

Starting point is 00:52:36 You got some bad ones. So you can't diss nobody's covers. I didn't see any of the fans saying that. I saw. You must have a different set of fans. I saw. Oh, I don't even have Wi-Fi. I don't know what the fans said, when they said it, how they said it.

Starting point is 00:52:51 They don't consider my mental health my happiness. Put the padded room cover up. Fuck them niggas. Oh, no, don't do that. I killed my streak of ugly Master P covers. Bro, that was not a good cover. That was an ugly Master P cover. I was doing animations

Starting point is 00:53:05 Penn and Pixel didn't do that oh wait the padded room covers hard as me in a straight jacket Hannibal Lecter that's what I was doing it was giving Hannibal Lecter

Starting point is 00:53:16 ice Silence in the Land one of the greatest movies ever it's fine I'm not here to listen I'm not here to defend

Starting point is 00:53:24 my rap my rap my rap career looks like you just snuck a fart and I feel like I need to tell Mo that I don't think my rap career is what got this

Starting point is 00:53:33 pod booming why does he think I think that it helped you're fucking right it helped it's the foundation it helped

Starting point is 00:53:44 it's the step stool it helped but I ain't running around It helped. It's the stepstool. It helped. But I ain't running around hanging my hat on being a fucking, no, man. Come on. Come on. Who laughs at their self like me? But if we ain't laughing and it's for real now, you got to let me know. Ooh.

Starting point is 00:53:59 Look, y'all get so, yo, when I get in my bag, y'all get so quiet and scared. I'm that dude. I'm that dude. I'm really him. Here you go with the dude again. I'm really him. No, y'all get so quiet and scared. I'm that dude. I'm that dude. I'm really him. I'm really him. Y'all get so quiet. Like, what is he going to say? Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:54:11 This might cause mischief in my life. It must be so much trouble. What is he going to say? My girl, Mike. My girl, Mike. I mean, we kind of know this is happening. What? Yo, the internet thinks I'm a monster.

Starting point is 00:54:20 And for that, I failed you. The internet and their perception of me six more minutes we're at the hour mark I'm getting this out and I'm done because I am appalled I am mortified at some of the things

Starting point is 00:54:39 I am flabbergasted at some of the things that you fucking idiots think about me. Where would they be? This horrible situation comes up. Oh, my God. What is he going to say? What is he going to say?

Starting point is 00:54:50 Oh, my God. What is he going to do? How is he going to approach this? He's got to find him. It's like, fam, what do you think I'm going to say? Hey, it was wrong. That was wrong. We want to make sure women and men, everybody, are comfortable.

Starting point is 00:55:04 Duh. Duh. That's what I'm going and men, everybody, are comfortable. Duh. Duh. That's what I'm going to say. Oh, my God. He did Maul and Rory. Where's the $400,000? Yo, fam. Suck.

Starting point is 00:55:15 Paul sucks on beautiful cantaloupe juices. Suck. Have you ever tasted cantaloupe juices? Suck on that. I've never tasted cantaloupe juices suck on that I've never had cantaloupe juice it is the finest of juices cantaloupe juice

Starting point is 00:55:33 did you guys think I was gonna I ain't mixed up with no drink suck my dick who do you think I am a problematic I do it for the creators do it the entrepreneurs the house builders a problematic I do it for the creators do it oh man the entrepreneurs

Starting point is 00:55:47 the house builders the fucking carpet layers I don't even know what his job title is the shoe stockers but he's my friend that's right y'all should've

Starting point is 00:55:58 shoe stockers man the shoe stockers come on man alright so inform me what do we need to talk about shout out to J. Cole the whole Dreamville what do we need to talk about? Shout out to J. Cole, the whole Dreamville. What do we need to talk about? Oh, we're going to talk about...

Starting point is 00:56:09 Shout out to Nicki Minaj. Hey. Want to talk about Kwame Brown? What happened with Kwame Brown? What happened with Kwame Brown? You don't know nothing. We don't know nothing. I don't have Wi-Fi.

Starting point is 00:56:18 My house phone does not have Twitter on it. It's mental health month. They're being mean. They say I ruined the broadcast. I didn't pay my friends. You raged against the machine until you became the machine. Nah! I thought you didn't read it.

Starting point is 00:56:35 Suck, cantaloupe. Juices. Fuck, I'm so sick of y'all. I'm sick of these people, man. Word, pick something else. Anyway, go ahead. Cantaloupe is these people doing their thing. Word. Pick something else. Anyway, go ahead. Cantaloupe is terrible. Kwame Brown.

Starting point is 00:56:48 Cantaloupe is terrible. Kwame Brown. No, no, no. I think we bumped into a topic. Yeah, yo. This thing don't like nothing. Y'all think it don't like

Starting point is 00:56:58 cantaloupe? You can tell he from Elizabeth. Elizabeth people. There's a lot of fruits that's above cantaloupe. It's not high up the list. What's wrong with y'all?

Starting point is 00:57:10 Cantaloupe is alright. Parks is white. Yeah, you ain't getting it. Who are you taking first, mango or cantaloupe? Lie. I dare you. I'm going cantaloupe. Nobody is picking mango before cantaloupe. I'm from the south my

Starting point is 00:57:25 family from the south oh my god nickel i'm recording live don't say anything that will incriminate yourself or myself i just finished professing to the world how i have failed everyone by mismanaging misleading and not doing the proper things to keep gang together so what are you are you going to do something to fix it? No. Oh, that's a good one. OK, well, I mean, listen, accountability is the first step to fix it. Wait, wait, wait. Slow down. Slow down. Let me not just say no. Let me not just say no. Now you're asking me a real a real question. Am I going to do you take it? You take it. You're taking a step at communication. So are you going to do what's best?

Starting point is 00:58:21 Because you got to do what's best for you first. That's what everybody's getting. I called Rory yesterday and answer, but I wasn't calling to say hey come back on the pod i was calling to say hey that number at the top of accounting is the real number and i want to find a way to communicate that to you so you can know even in divorce you should know that the numbers are the numbers everything is fine like that was the courtesy i extended because i would have wanted that extended to me now so when you say fix it well i mean you making that you making the adjustment in this space just like everybody else is people forgetting about that that's true but what's the what's the first thing bun b told us the first time slaughterhouse met bun in texas that very first session when slaughterhouse first met bun together what did he tell us what was the first

Starting point is 00:59:05 jewel he dropped on something profound something profound it was something profound i remember that he said remember this anytime i ever aired anything out publicly as it pertained to family friends or anything close to it i always regretted it every single time well that's the mistake that that's the real mistake i own that that's the one that's the one but again like i said there's no blueprint there's no pamphlet i'm doing this in real time dealing with the real time emotions as they come and the job the gig is on air the gig is you can't run from it you want to lean into transparency but you don't want to hurt anybody and you certainly don't want to blast people that you love. So that I own. I'm here. This is a whole episode where it's about ownership, accountability, not necessarily a fix because I'm not mad at what what the result was.

Starting point is 00:59:55 But how we got there is I got to own my part in that. Whatever information they don't understand, I've spoken to you in private so whatever it is that i think they don't understand i should have done a better job as a leader in trying to get the point across and i failed that i failed now well i think that's fair and that's honorable and i don't think you should be too hard on yourself i think i think everybody played a part in it and i think this is just a step and it is what the fuck it is but don't forget your journey and everything that you that you created and everything that you fucking turn this shit into you're a bossed up ass nigga right now so don't forget that don't start making people make you feel guilty about what you're doing you just got to do a

Starting point is 01:00:40 little bit better job of communicating with motherfuckers especially your loved ones that's all i agree i agree and i think that's part of displaying that bossed up shit you're talking about is just owning some shit and realizing even in hindsight where you could have done things better like if i don't learn nothing from it then going to the next situation is moving forward it's a mistake like and you've been like i love you just because i love you for many reasons but you've been there with me through most of my like a a lot of my mistakes, and you've been that person to just give some real sound advice, whether I took it or not.

Starting point is 01:01:10 So, yeah, that's where I'm at. If I don't learn nothing from it, then this was a waste of fucking time, and I think I got something. I think I did. This was big. For me anyway. You're gonna take a jewel from it, bro. I got your back regardless, my nigga. I love you. Love and respect you for life. My man. I love you too, hate you later all right back yeah i'm on grown man time man

Starting point is 01:01:30 i don't want nobody calling my phone it's not on grown man energy i had a rule when i put the internet down for a little bit my rule was i'm not talking to nobody that i don't love and that they don't love me don't call trying to get the tea don't call trying to get the scoop don't call with the pretend don't call with the pretend care don't call trying to get the tea don't call trying to get the scoop don't call with the pretend don't call with the pretend care don't call with the yo let me see if i y'all spoke to him my nigga i don't care i don't care don't hit my phone at any other time my phone i don't even know there's a ring option niggas don't call niggas don't text even yesterday when i was going through and having not having a hard time it was it was a lot but I put the phone down and did what I had to do it was a few niggas called

Starting point is 01:02:09 parks called me a few other people called me and I'm sitting there I said to Ian I said yo even with all this turmoil today the people that I love a lot like the people that know me I don't think they really hitting me because I think they on some of your, Joe good. I think people just naturally assume that Joe is always good because I get right to the work. I don't sit around and get to the feelings and I did some people to do, but I get right to the work.

Starting point is 01:02:35 And in that, people might assume that you just always all right, that you just always cool. Not to say I'm not, but it felt good to put the phone down. It did. It felt good to shower and listen to J. Cole at nighttime, light some candles, get into my mental health. It felt good to talk to the people that hit me, personally, from my experience.

Starting point is 01:02:51 It felt good to talk to the people that hit me. If you're not calling with a solution or help or information or advice or just anything helpful or coveted with love or just leading with love, then nigga, sell cantaloupe juice or mangoes. Whichever you prefer. Who the fuck picks a mango

Starting point is 01:03:11 over a cantaloupe? My granddaddy made me sell cantaloupes on the side of, I forgot the name of the highway in South Carolina. Honeydew or cantaloupe?

Starting point is 01:03:21 Who knows? But I was selling them. I'm just saying, which would you prefer? Cantaloupe. Cantaloupe. Cantaloupe. I don't really like cantaloupe. Watermelon over the cantaloupe. Waterew or cantaloupe who knows but i was selling them i'm just saying which would you prefer cantaloupe cantaloupe over the honeydew cantaloupe i really like watermelon over the cantaloupe watermelon cantaloupe wait what hold on hold on i'm not i don't eat watermelon i sold them but i never loved watermelon you don't eat watermelon what is wrong with you why are you squinching your face up at me i failed you again yeah you failed because i don't eat watermelon

Starting point is 01:03:41 i've never been a watermelon guy watermelon these are the things i eat watermelon I never been a watermelon guy watermelon these are the things I'm not I'm not a watermelon guy people laugh at me I'm not a beach guy women laugh at me

Starting point is 01:03:51 okay I'm with you on that I'm not really a water guy I can do without all of that unless there's a beautiful woman in there it's a bad time to say that I mean

Starting point is 01:03:57 unless I just want to go in there by myself and hang out and those are the things that's it Ice what else happened on the internet? We were trying to talk about Kwame Brown.

Starting point is 01:04:07 Kwame Brown, give it to me. Kwame Brown woke up and said he had enough with Gilbert Arenas, Steven Jackson, and Matt Barnes and just went the fuck off. How did Gilbert Arenas get in this mix? He has a different podcast. I have no clue. I don't know if he saw. He must have said something.

Starting point is 01:04:24 Something happened. But from what I read, Gilbert Arenas has been kind of holding him down. He never really dissed him. I never see Gilbert Arenas diss many people aside from his friends. That is true. I don't know. But Kwame Brown went off. Like he was. He said they dissing black men.

Starting point is 01:04:38 They dragging black men. Like they basically doing a disservice to the black man. Because all he ever sees him do is this black man. Then he started talking You just naturally sound like it's midnight at all times.

Starting point is 01:04:50 No, he's trying to be cool, man. But he has to find a way to just put a little amp. Because I'm screaming like you. Wait a minute. I don't do that. I fail you when I scream, right?

Starting point is 01:04:58 Right? When I raise my voice, I fail you. Anyway. Get your shit off. Anyway, he said like he started talking tough. Well, he's seven foot one, right?

Starting point is 01:05:08 And he's big as hell, yeah. Yeah, he was talking like he wants smoke, though. He was like, he... Well, he fights. When he called Matt Barnes Becky with the good hair, that was it for me. That was great. Well, one thing about Matt Barnes now. Yeah?

Starting point is 01:05:21 He fights, too. Listen, if there's one thing about Matt Barnes... Steven Jackson. Yeah. He fights too. Listen. If there's one thing about Matt Barnes Steven Jackson. Yeah. If there's one thing about Steven Jackson. You're picking with the right one. I can see them jumping the shit out of Kwame Brown. Steven Jackson went

Starting point is 01:05:37 he went in the stands. Yeah. Homeboy was eating popcorn. He wasn't eating no more. He was drinking cider. And then went back to the locker room, and his homeboy said to him, hey, you think we're going to get in trouble for that? That's what Ron Artest said after the malice in the palace. Yo.

Starting point is 01:05:56 Those are two of the greatest basketball quotes ever. That one, the one of, hey, you think we're going to get in trouble, and Ricky Davis and Darius Malzman. No, Ricky Davis saying that LeBron was brought in for help to help him. I missed that one. Ricky Davis was getting buckets the year before LeBron. Don't say that though. He said he thought they brought LeBron in

Starting point is 01:06:13 to help him out. Don't say that man. Alright, come on. Moving on. Kwame Brown had all the smoke for Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. Have they replied? They did. Oh, see, I didn't know they replied.

Starting point is 01:06:28 They did reply? What did they say? Yeah, what did they say? What did they say? Because I didn't know that they replied. All right, I got a little bit of what Kwame Brown. Well, Kwame Brown has replied a few times. And if you're unaware, Kwame Brown is an NBA player that Michael Jordan drafted to the NBA Wizards as the number one pick.

Starting point is 01:06:43 Washington. Yeah, I'm sorry. Washington Wizards. He was 17 years old, straight out of high school, probably ill-prepared for all of the things that came with the NBA, and this is what he was saying. After now, now that I got a platform, I'm going to use it for the right way. It's time to put respect on niggas' name.

Starting point is 01:07:02 And you niggas that I'm disrespecting, that's because you the one that's a gatekeeper of disrespect Steven a ball for here. We're thinking you tough saying all kind of shit like oh What sign up let's go to Seattle and you sign up with Seattle you ain't gotta sign no waiver Meet me in Seattle where you can have mutual combat and talk like that. I'll slap a tooth You look like you got a toupee in front of your head or how hard I'll slap the back of your head.

Starting point is 01:07:27 All right, all right. I'm going to cut this off because it's violent and we need light energy. What the world needs now is love, sweet love. I want to cut off some of the dark energy.

Starting point is 01:07:37 I'm not going to call it corny. It's corny. Which part? Him. Because now I didn't know. Oh, you want to fight him too now you know he's 7 foot okay

Starting point is 01:07:47 I think I got my money on him if him and Ish were to square up this little track suit gonna be muddy yo look at Min though look at Ish's face right now alright

Starting point is 01:07:59 no no no tell us how you think it would go I'm going home. With the ass whooping? I mean, if he permits. When I come back. Anyway, yo, anyway.

Starting point is 01:08:11 You won't be in the same place. Yo, fam, let's talk about what's going on. No, no, he won't be there. Then what? You going to be there with your little 22 mad? You going to be there with your little dooz-dooz? Oh, he lucky. Oh, he lucky he left.

Starting point is 01:08:23 Some other numbers. Yo, man, let me talk. Yo, I didn't know he is now going to have his own platform. 32. So what y'all be saying, y'all the king of the rollouts. A 32? This is his attempt at his rollout. Do you have a 32?

Starting point is 01:08:37 No, I don't. But would you go to the scene with a 32? Keep going up, nigga. 38? 36. I didn't even know what's a.36. .38. That's the gun

Starting point is 01:08:48 that they laughed at me about, so I'm not going to say that. Yeah, no bullets. Corey laughed at me and you. Now you want to go up? I didn't laugh. I'll blow Corey's brains out.

Starting point is 01:08:56 Your little old, yellow, rusty, dusty, yeah, that's what I laughed at. I'll blow Corey's head off with my little rusty.38. If it shoots. Yo, anyway. Listen.

Starting point is 01:09:08 I didn't know he was doing that. Nigga stole my. Listen, I had a.50 caliber at one point. The fuck? Allegedly. Let me let the room know that I had a chrome.50 caliber at one point. And them bullets looked like. Someone took it from me.

Starting point is 01:09:20 No, them bullets looked like your thumb. Yeah. Yeah. Those. Yeah. Someone took it from me. They did you a favor. That thumb. Yeah, those. Yeah. Someone took it from me that would have used it better than me.

Starting point is 01:09:28 They did you a favor. Someone needed it more than I did. You didn't need that. No, no, that was just for the show show.

Starting point is 01:09:34 I was just going to pull that out like admire this. But you can't just pull it out if you're not willing to. Nah,

Starting point is 01:09:39 I was showing it to my friends. Like look, look how pretty this is. That little Desert Eagle 50 Cal is different. I didn't know, I don't even know what that is. Oh, you. Look how pretty this is. That little Desert Eagle 50 Cal is different. I didn't know. I don't even know

Starting point is 01:09:47 what that is. Oh, you at the damn South Walmart. So stupid, yo. Oh, you. Yo, fam, can we get back to you? Oh, he is big and bad.

Starting point is 01:09:56 Oh, you about it, about it. Yeah, this guy is stupid. Yo, what is he? Is that a Desert Eagle 52 caliber 38 grenade? Yeah. Fuck it. Nigga, what type of? Is that a Desert Eagle 52 caliber 38 grenade? Nigga, what type of beef are you into? See, if you show me some weapons now, and this ain't a weapons thing,

Starting point is 01:10:14 shout out to Atlanta. But if you show me some weapons, I'm going to be like, yo, what happened? No, that's the question I asked. What happened? That's what I asked. Did they kill your whole block? Why do you need that? Did they kill your whole projects?

Starting point is 01:10:30 Ice, you serious? What the fuck? Here come the shit they got now. Look, look, look. Sam, you're the promoter of who I smoke. These little niggas is down there getting their lives taken by the thousands. And you're wondering why they carrying that?

Starting point is 01:10:43 No, I'm not saying why they carrying guns. No, they got the step back Steph Curry three guns now. Yeah, you're right. And they shooting all three of them at the same time. What happened to you? Why smoke? Don't think that's all. Nigga, that's what happened.

Starting point is 01:10:57 You answering your own question. No, but something like, how do we get from my little shootouts to this? My little fake 38 don't stand a chance. No, it something like, how do we get from my little shootouts to this? My little fake 38 don't stand a chance. No, it don't. My man in Virginia hit me and sent me. He was like, yo, I just got a grenade launcher. It attaches to the bottom of the AK or some shit he had. And sent me a video of him firing it.

Starting point is 01:11:17 Yeah. What the fuck are you doing with this? Look, young man. Why? Clearing the block. I just want to know why you got it. But why you didn't call the police immediately and get this thug

Starting point is 01:11:26 off the streets he protected his home this man with a grenade launcher with a grenade yeah does he have a 72 story I don't know

Starting point is 01:11:37 what home is he in it fell is he protecting him he protecting a lot of land that shit that shit pretty though oh no he got a shit, that shit pretty though. Oh, no, no, no, no. He got a hunting family.

Starting point is 01:11:47 That shit pretty though. And you heard of a two family. He got a hunting family. Yo, all hunting families might be in danger. Get on the mall. That nigga protecting the mall. And he called ICE. He was like, yo, look what I just got.

Starting point is 01:12:03 Yo, why is he calling? Yo, I called. What the fuck is you doing with this? You know what? I'm not. I'm not going to, look what I just got. Yo, why is he calling? What the fuck is you doing with this? You know what? I'm not. I'm not going to tell you when I call. Don't call me. I'm going to tell you when I call, Ice, when I can't find the new Netflix show. Yo.

Starting point is 01:12:18 I can't even joke. I can't even joke no more, god damn it. It's over, buddy. No more jokes. It's over. Oh, I can't even. We can't even joke no more god damn it it's over buddy no more jokes it's over I can't even it's over it's over

Starting point is 01:12:28 it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over

Starting point is 01:12:44 it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over Something's wrong with your brother. That's your bed. Yo, go ahead, man. What we talking about? Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look. Meanwhile on Mano's couch. Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look. No, it ain't on Mano's couch. It ain't on Meanwhile, nigga. Go ahead. Say what you was saying.

Starting point is 01:12:54 Tell it. Tell it. Tell it. Issues hive out there what you was saying. I didn't say nothing. Oh, you're not. I heard you. All right, I'll start.

Starting point is 01:13:01 I'll lead. I'll lead. I'll lead. Lead to Mano's couch. How about that? I'll you. All right, I'll start. I'll lead. I'll lead. I'll lead. Lead to Maino's couch. How about that? I'll lead. Not with Maino's couch and B-Dot. We're going to lead with something else.

Starting point is 01:13:13 OK. Really quick. A quick blurb. Oh, man. Yo. I know. I can't even play with this dude Alright forget it Come on go ahead

Starting point is 01:13:30 What Man on Couch did What Man on Couch did Cause I can't even play with him He won't play back Oh man What happened to all that I talked back Shit he was saying

Starting point is 01:13:39 Yo you're not It's me Yeah yeah yeah You just say that What happened to watch this Yeah All of it left What's up Yeah. All of it left. What's up?

Starting point is 01:13:45 All of it left. What are we doing on Tuesdays? Nothing. Why not? I'm coming to work. No, after work, though. In the evening. I go out to a nice dinner or movie or bowling.

Starting point is 01:13:59 It's date night? Yes. Aw. That's cute. You know what I'm talking about? Give him some. Give him some. I'm a loser.

Starting point is 01:14:07 What type of fucking loser is he? Fam, you the nigga that locked yourself in the house for the whole weekend. Rose petals on the floor like you the king of Zamunda. I'm also in a long distance relationship. Okay. So if it seem like I'm outside having fun, oh, she going to be across the country tight in the face. Nah, she gonna be on that next thing

Starting point is 01:14:26 smoking out. Well, no, no, no. That's why I got... So you talking shit. I get in the bed at 10 o'clock and say, oh, damn, babe.

Starting point is 01:14:33 I'm exhausted. I'm taking it down. Oh, my God. Then you call so at 12. Then I call you, nigga. No, no, no, no, no. That's so at 12. No, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no And I answered you accordingly. I mean, did you? I mean, let's move on. Yeah, I did.

Starting point is 01:15:06 Sky. I'm just saying, before the mic came on, you was like, it's me. It's me. It's a man. I know how I do. It's fine. Don't worry about it, man. It's cool. It's cool.

Starting point is 01:15:15 You're right. Ain't me. You hear these? Yeah, I mean, you spent Tuesday nights doing the things that you like to do. I mean. Indeed. Fulfilling self. Making your own spirit whole.

Starting point is 01:15:24 Indeed. Stepping in your faith Yes Amen The Anyway I said go to Mano's couch

Starting point is 01:15:32 This nigga's wanted to go around Devil's elbow Bruh Mano's up there What's the devil's elbow? Yeah I never heard that one That's a small That's a nigga

Starting point is 01:15:40 That's a nigga 70 years old I ain't never heard that one He's about 75 years old Anyway Mano and B.Dot B.Dot was a guest On Mano's podcast This nigga's 70 years old, bro. I ain't never heard that one. He's about 75 years old. Maino and B-Dot. B-Dot was a guest on Maino's podcast, the Kitchen Talk podcast.

Starting point is 01:15:52 Bless you. That's so disgusting. Kitchen Talk podcast. And they were discussing whether or not you should give an honest review of your friend who's a musician. Publicly. As a journalist. I don't think that's what happened. Publicly.

Starting point is 01:16:10 I don't think that's really what happened. I think that Homeboy wasn't wrong, except in his sarcasm. Right? His sarcasm was a little much. Maino asked him, he said, yo, you only gave really one bad review about a song, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he was like, yo, I mean, you could have kind of kept it to yourself. Homeboy's like, nah, could have kept that bum ass song to yourself, right? You're being disrespectful.

Starting point is 01:16:34 Like the sarcasm. Or I'm playing with my man. That's my man. I'm playing. If you say you could have kept that bum ass song to yourself, I'm not going to look at you no type of way. I'm going to read the room, though. So if I know that you're serious about what you're saying to me, I'm going to approach it accordingly. Maino clearly wasn't serious and my man just kept saying slick snide shit. And when you're dealing with certain people, when you say slick side shit, Merry Christmas comes.

Starting point is 01:17:01 Yeah, we got to get the emotion out of things, man. You going to beat me up because of my album review on you? No, no, no, no, no, no. But if you're my man, I'm not going to. I can't make a joke sitting next to you if you're my man? Absolutely. All day. Again, it depends on how the review was laid out.

Starting point is 01:17:17 If you did some ice shit where you like yours. I said your shit was trash. I can't say that and be your man. No, I got to be some ice shit. Because you are quick to say a nigga's shit is trash. Wait, but no, no. No, stay here. Somebody tell me why I can't tell you that your shit is trash if and be your man no I gotta be somebody's shit cause you are quick to say a nigga's shit is trash wait but no no stay here somebody tell me

Starting point is 01:17:27 why I can't tell you that your shit is trash if I'm your man you can tell me why can't I say it publicly if I'm your man if that's my job to critique shit

Starting point is 01:17:35 yeah and then we got or that's what I or now I'm not gonna say my job if that's what I'm known for cause you but that is his job yeah you can be

Starting point is 01:17:43 critical without being hurtful and disrespectful. Didn't we just say this? You talking about you failed in your communication. Yo, dog, you can get your point across and convey a certain point

Starting point is 01:17:54 without being hurtful. I mean, I halfway failed because niggas was rich. All right, forget it. That's not leadership. All right. Well, Ish, that's not leadership. Go back to that

Starting point is 01:18:05 Ish yo again I could give you a critique right correct and it could be totally accurate

Starting point is 01:18:12 but I don't gotta be hurtful when I give you that critique but what if he was just hurt you think it's trash and you think and you love there are other synonyms to trash

Starting point is 01:18:22 I don't think Ish's last effort was the best was his best musical effort i i've heard better projects from him than that and and you know you don't have to review my shit no bigger than that look you're my man you're my man so you being my man you should have my best interest at heart you know you have a following and you know that when you critique my shit other people are going to take to it because they value your opinion. Okay. Right?

Starting point is 01:18:47 But you're my man. Correct. So you still want me to be successful. Okay. You still want me to earn a dollar. I want the best you. Exactly. You still want me to earn a dollar.

Starting point is 01:18:55 Okay. So when you critique my project and you know you have a following and if you say my shit is trash, niggas not going to go buy it. You are thereby hindering your man's success. But what if I think it's helping you by saying, yo. No, you're not. But what if I think it's trash? You pick up the phone

Starting point is 01:19:10 and call me and say, yo, put out some better shit. But what if I think it's trash? You're bugging. Don't put it into the public because then that affects my pockets. So now you become a yes man to an extent.

Starting point is 01:19:19 I just said you high. No, to an extent. I just said you call your man and say, dog, that shit is trash. I'm talking about publicly to an extent. No, you give a. You can critique everybody else's shit but you can't say nothing about the people you fuck with? I just said you call your man and say, dog, that shit is trash. I'm talking about publicly to an extent. You can critique everybody else's shit, but you can't say nothing about the people you fuck with?

Starting point is 01:19:27 I just said you can critique it. It's a manner in how you critique it that is respectful. Then we just had this conversation the other day when you was critiquing them niggas' shit, and I said it could lead to a sticky situation. Again, you can use your words. God gave us more than one. There are other synonyms to trash. And there's other albums to review.

Starting point is 01:19:46 But again. No, but you could give a bad review. You could give a respectful bad review. You don't have to say this nigga shit is trash. But if that album is trash to me and someone asks my opinion. I don't know. Find other words. Find other words.

Starting point is 01:20:00 No. Okay. Yo, but listen. That's why he deserve to get smacked. He's sitting on the couch Talking funny They have a personal relationship When you tell them to smash

Starting point is 01:20:09 I've told Joe some shit He did it was trash And I'll say it publicly Ice has told me mad shit That I've done has been trash I didn't want to smack his face But he didn't say it on Twitter Yes I have

Starting point is 01:20:18 Yes the fuck he did Yes I have Yes he did say it was trash On Twitter And I have no problem saying that Publicly I'm the same person Which one do you think was trash?

Starting point is 01:20:26 All right, I'll smack him. I'll smack him. I will smack him right now. Yo, listen. I'm up now. Yo. Listen, this is where I disagree with Ish. Because you're right.

Starting point is 01:20:37 There are other synonyms to trash. I attempted to do that in reviewing an album of people that I worked with and knew. I wasn't best friends with them. I didn't go to Thanksgiving dinner. But I had a job to do that in reviewing an album of people that I worked with and knew. I wasn't best friends with them. I didn't go to Thanksgiving dinner, but I had a job to do. I was putting my best foot forward in the job. I'm being honest. I'm giving it up. We've never seen this before. And somebody that thought I shouldn't

Starting point is 01:20:56 have said something that was honest and how I felt had a problem with when I did that. Who? Him. Okay. His track list came out and I didn't even put it on him I was like yo I don't know who the powers that be are I don't know what I was nasty there's a disconnect somewhere your adjectives in describing I'm saying exactly what no the album wasn't even out that's what I'm telling you it was

Starting point is 01:21:21 just the album track list and I was saying, I'm not putting that on him. I know him fights for social injustice. I know he fights for black rights. I know he, like, I'm not putting that on him. But the way that it looks is this. And he was angry. Even with him being sugarcoating all this. Oh, I think I remember you saying basically it was like a.

Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah, even with me being polite and trying to watch my words. Some people feel like if I know you, the only thing you should say about me is good shit. If I know you personally. Or not say nothing at all. Or not say nothing. Or not say nothing at all. That's how a lot of people feel. I didn't say that.

Starting point is 01:21:52 I'm not saying he does, but that's where a lot of people say it. But that puts the guy that's in that job at risk. Absolutely. Indeed. 100%. Yeah, but that part is not fair. And that's what B.Dot was saying. And that's why I agree with B.Dot.

Starting point is 01:22:04 No, but I'm saying that you can critique somebody's album. I'm not saying that he should not critique his album fairly. If you think it's not a good project, you can say it's not a good project. But Ish, we don't know what B. Dot said. All we know is... Hold on, hold on. Because all Mano said was... No, he said I'm sorry.

Starting point is 01:22:21 No, all he said was there was one project you didn't speak good about. You never said his exact words. Well, that says that Mano is saying you should have skipped that album. Exactly. And I disagree with that. I disagree with that. That's his sentiment. He could have said, yo, you could have kept...

Starting point is 01:22:35 Well, we don't know what he said. We talking about something different. We having two different conversations now. Initially, you said, yo, if I think your shit is trash, I can say your shit is trash. I'm more blunt. I'm going to say it's trash. Whether I know you, I don't shit is trash. I'm more blunt. I'm going to say it's trash. Whether I know you, I don't know you, I'm blunt like that. I'm going to say it to you, but I'm not necessarily putting it on my platform.

Starting point is 01:22:49 If you're my friend and you publicly and you have a following in which people look to you for advice to go buy albums, and I'm your friend and you say my album is trash, I have a problem with that. You should. Because again, you got bills to pay. But what if I pay my bills that way? But what if the album isn't trash? I just said, Ice,

Starting point is 01:23:10 I'm not stopping you from saying that the album is bad. You can use different verbiage to convey your same exact thoughts. Again, I'm speaking, all right, now I'm just talking for me.

Starting point is 01:23:19 Okay. I'm blunt. Whether I know you, I don't know you, I never met you, never plan to meet you. If you put out something that to me...

Starting point is 01:23:27 You're going to get smacked. You are a grown up. You can't just be stuck in this rigid way of thinking. I can tell him what he about to experience. Oh, blood. I think it's bad.

Starting point is 01:23:41 If I think it's not good, I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to tell it to you. I'm let you go. I'm going to tell you. I'm just not using it. I'll tell you what. The artists that fuck with me all say, y'all already know how you give it up.

Starting point is 01:23:53 That's the conversations we have. Gotcha. Me too. In private. In the studio. I'm talking about in private. So they know if something is trash, I'm going to kill it whether I fuck with you or not. That's a way to stay safe.

Starting point is 01:24:02 Now, you know what? I guess I am with this. Evolution and diplomacy come along with maturity. So when you 20, you say, man, that shit is trash. Or, yo, dog, we got into a conversation when I said, yo, you could tell somebody their breath stink, right? And you could be helpful versus being hurtful. It's how you convey the message.

Starting point is 01:24:20 What if the person takes it as hurtful no matter what you say? What if the help is hurt? Come on, you adding another dynamic. I'm asking you a question. What I'm talking about is the way you present it to the person. Because I'm person takes it as hurtful no matter what you say? What if the help is hurt? Come on, you adding another dynamic. I'm asking you a question. What I'm talking about is the way you present it to the person. Because I'm talking about

Starting point is 01:24:28 what Joe just said. You can say, yo, my nigga, you need a mint today. Okay, but he's asking a new- It's the same thing. It's different responses. And again, like I said,

Starting point is 01:24:36 what if Joe, the way he presented it, he walked on eggshells- Hit one of us. He walked on eggshells about the interview and he still took it away. What are you doing?

Starting point is 01:24:44 No, because this is common sense shit. This is common sense adult level thinking. You just saying, he walked on eggshells about the interview and he still took it away what are you doing because this is shit this is common sense adult level thinking you just saying yo i'm this way i'm always gonna be this way we just look that's a failure in leadership in leadership in leadership i can't say that right that's a failure you can't just say yo this is how i am and this is what's gonna be and you give it take it or leave it. That's immaturity to me, dog. Like, yo, again, a part of growing up, a part of maturing is being malleable. You got to change and roll.

Starting point is 01:25:13 Anyway. Look at Ish being the OG, man. No, you got it, bro. Yeah. Again, that makes no sense. If it's trash, I'm going to say it's trash, though. You got it. That's just what I'm going to do. Again.

Starting point is 01:25:21 And I'm going to hold the next one. I agree with you. And I'm going to hold the next one. I'm going to call you on the phone and say, yo, my nigga, what was you thinking about with that record? Okay, so let me ask you this. Shit was caca. All right, Parks, let me ask you this.

Starting point is 01:25:29 You can say that. Hold on, hold on. Let me ask you this. Sure. So you just said you agree with me. If something's trash, you'll say it's trash. If you know the person, you'll say it's trash to them? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:39 But if you don't know them, you'll say it's trash publicly? I don't even really do that too much. I wouldn't do that either. I don't even do that too much. I'm just trying to figure out what you're wearing. Full on trash? No. I'll give a critique.

Starting point is 01:25:48 If it's full on trash, I'm not even talking about that shit. Read that body language. If you're asked. Read his body language. He don't want to smack him? Maino's body language? Yes. But Maino wants to smack everybody.

Starting point is 01:25:57 Look, look, look. He's talking to a girl. That's a good time to tell my Maino story. But Maino wants to smack anybody. Who's asking, though? To answer your question. I guess that matters. That matters. That does that matters a stranger on the internet that doesn't matter i'm not fucking ruining my relationship with my friend over some stranger

Starting point is 01:26:11 on the internet man no looks angry if you're asking me bro and if you my man and listen to his responses he keeps saying sarcastic shit no he's being sarcastic 100 man i was like you should have kept that to yourself he said, you should have kept that song to yourself. I think that's- Well, that's leaning on the friendship. Merry Fistmas. That's leaning on the friendship. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:26:30 That's also leaning on, I know a camera on. But if you said that to me, yeah. I wouldn't say that to you. But Ice would have said it to me, and I wouldn't have got up and wanted to fight Ice. That's me. Bro. Mano. That's a little bit-

Starting point is 01:26:43 If there's any one person that I would have massaged the album review for, it's Mano. Look at his face. Hey, both of y'all right. Both of y'all are right. He like, no, I'm saying I'm smart. No, he's serious. He's not joking at all. Play it.

Starting point is 01:26:57 It's a minute long. We can play it. But this is now, I won't reveal how old Mano is, but this is a very mature, older, elder statesman, veteran, wise Mano. I only ever heard you speak on one record that you didn't like. Ever. You could have kept that to yourself. You could have kept the record to yourself. Nigga, is you crazy, nigga?

Starting point is 01:27:20 That's all. Is you crazy, nigga? All of you, is you crazy? No, no, no, that is all right now. I'm pretty sane. Not I'm pretty sane. That's all is you crazy. Are you crazy? Now I'm pretty saying not I'm pretty saying This the final year see mature pretty mature. Very mature mature days might happened already Yeah, I'm hitting round of applause no no no it goes more now, but I'm still around of applause Can't expect everyone to be ups. be upset Don't say that we cool

Starting point is 01:27:48 What kind of friend would I be but I'll be I'll be a fake for talking about public nigga You put on your music up. It don't matter nigga. The game is based off of relationships and based off of Favoritism nigga, what not. Are you fucking stupid? It's favoritism. Wait. Are you stupid, nigga? Can I ask you a question?

Starting point is 01:28:08 You sit in my house with this stupid-ass face. Are you dumb, nigga? Wait. Let me tell you something. I want to, first of all, commend B-Dot for how he handled this entire situation, friends or no friends. That was honorable. I also want to salute Tameno.

Starting point is 01:28:23 Yes. For real. For how he handled this situation, because that was honorable, because I know he wanted to smack the fire out of him. You sitting in my house and you being funny. He said way more funny shit. We cut it. He said way more funny shit.

Starting point is 01:28:36 But I do like, I just like that, I like that Mano. It was your crazy thing. Hold up. Yeah. None of the other points matter. No more. Is you fucking crazy? your crazy thing. Hold up. Yeah. None of the other points matter. No more. Is you fucking crazy? Is you stupid?

Starting point is 01:28:47 Look how he pointing at him. Yeah. I like this mature Mano, man. Shout out to Mano. Shout out to B-Dot. I'm getting a round of applause again. Yo, and that's the thing, man. Kevin Samuels said it.

Starting point is 01:28:59 Maybe a bad episode to mention his name. But black media in this space is important. Regardless of what side you fall on this argument, them having this discussion in black media is important because it's been a point of contention for a long time. Me and how I operate in this space, everybody can't talk to me about how black media is supposed to look.

Starting point is 01:29:28 There's ups, there's downs. This is that for me. I'm so proud of this shit. I'm so proud of this. You know all the shows that we've had? All of the fucking commentators and hosts and we've never heard this exchange? Right.

Starting point is 01:29:43 Like this? It's a bunch of ass kissing usually. You never get this. Come on, man. Stop playing with me. Stop playing with me in 2021. A bunch of generic bullshit. Give us 10 seconds. Tell us why we should cop that album. No.

Starting point is 01:29:58 Tell me how you feel when your friend who's a journalist trashes your shit. Hurts. Hurt. Yo, I used to put my blood, sweat, and tears into a project, put it out, and watch niggas that I know didn't listen to it

Starting point is 01:30:14 review it and say, yo, shit was cool, man. You know Joker rap. All right, moving on. All right, now, Britney Spears did, and I would be home saying, nah, you lying you lying

Starting point is 01:30:27 like I put my all into this one you lying you lying right now I just knew I put my foot in this album ass every album a dude say yo I'm doing this different

Starting point is 01:30:34 I'm putting my best I'm doing this I'm changing this song I'm approaching they gonna love this one and every time you just not gonna listen to it you gonna go on and say

Starting point is 01:30:42 oh Joker rappy but he always knew how to rap anyway moving right along whoa what a smack in the face what an insult part of the reason that i started doing this wait a minute now some of these commentators have to be people that listen to albums regularly i feel like the people that review albums don't really uh they listen to their artists that they like this is to their artists that they like man these niggas is getting

Starting point is 01:31:05 what say it well say it nicely say it respectfully there's an incentive for them to review certain albums a certain way oh for sure

Starting point is 01:31:15 oh I'm sure I'll say it that way but then they also do like an indie rap album or something like that they just give it the brush to review

Starting point is 01:31:22 like you said oh man he raps really good there's some good beats on here because Because there was no incentive to expound on this review and

Starting point is 01:31:31 you know, sell it. I'm selling it. But now, see, I can't take that stance if I'm asking people for an honest review. You're not going to get an honest review. And their honest review is, hey, that wasn't his greatest effort and now i feel like oh we had a relationship oh that was my man that's part of the whole

Starting point is 01:31:50 insensitivity thing with me like this business ain't for friends like and i'm aware of that man like dj enough broke broke my first single when i went to him with the second single, he didn't break it. He didn't want to hear it. It didn't sound like the first single. I went to him with the third, the fourth, the fifth,

Starting point is 01:32:09 the sixth, the seventh, the eighth. It never happened. No disrespect. That's my guy. Salute to him. Grateful to him. The point is,

Starting point is 01:32:18 fam, he ain't got to play your fucking second, third, fourth, fifth record. And you don't have to be offended by it because he did you a solid by playing the first record. If you're my friend and you don't tell me my shit is trash and my shit is trash in private,

Starting point is 01:32:32 I'm also going to be mad at you. Again, there's the level of diplomacy. I can tell you, Parks, I don't know why I'm feeling that shit. You was high, you was in the right head space. I know you doper than that, so I wasn't really feeling that. If I Like, you was high. You was in the right head space. Right. I know you doper than that. Right.

Starting point is 01:32:45 So I wasn't really feeling that. Right? But if I'm going to get on Twitter and say, man, nigga, album was dog shit. Yeah. You should feel some sort of way. That's how you pay your bills. Right.

Starting point is 01:32:57 I can say, he might have been going through some mental shit. He been down a little bit. Personal shit going on. I wasn't really feeling the album. It's okay. Skip over it. Don't say my album is dog shit. He been down a little bit. Personal shit going on. I wasn't really feeling the album. It's okay. Skip over it. Don't say my album

Starting point is 01:33:08 is dog shit. If you're my friend. I agree with that. If you never said about anybody's album, then don't call anybody anything trash. Then I agree

Starting point is 01:33:18 with what you're saying. I do think the word trash is and has been thrown around too loose for a long time. And I think trash is subjective. Yeah, but shit don't be trash. We just be calling it trash. Some shit really be trash long time. And I think trash is subjective. We just be

Starting point is 01:33:26 calling it trash. It wasn't our favorite song. The album that's trash, it's like the NBA. Everybody in the NBA can play. They might not be playing. Any summer league in the country and get 40. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They might not be getting time on the court, but they can play.

Starting point is 01:33:42 They had to play good enough to make it there. Same thing here, man. Some of of these artists they all can make music but sometimes you put out something it's not your best work that ain't a slight against all listen everybody can make music give them a few more shots give them different circumstances that's my different tools give them different features give them different beats give them's my personal opinion. Give them different tools. Give them different features. Give them different beats. Give them a different label. Everybody can do it. To me, any review, if you're going to have a negative opinion on the album, at least offer valid critiques of the album.

Starting point is 01:34:13 Just saying, yo, that shit is trash. To me- What if you don't like it? Yo, what if you just did not like anything about this? Like, yo, I tried. And then that's where the it's not for me comes in. And I think that's just an escape. Like, that's just a let me escape out of this.

Starting point is 01:34:29 It can be. It's a safe review. It depends on who did it. It's not saying that you trash. And it's not saying that I think it's the greatest. I didn't like that. You can say I didn't like it. If someone puts out the country jazz fusion album and it's whoever, someone I like, it might not be for me.

Starting point is 01:34:44 You can say, yo, dog, I didn't like it. Right. I didn't like it. And he's sensitive. And if that shit, that, Yo, that shit was trash. I don't want us to spend 20 minutes on telling people how to review an album.

Starting point is 01:34:59 I think that same conversation happens because we still don't know what B. Dot said about that record. He could have just said, yo, I don't like this song. Yo, you my man. How dare you tell people you don't like something I did. I mean, that's a good point. That's my point.

Starting point is 01:35:11 That's my point, though. I know his replies. They feel like when I know you, you either say something good or you say nothing. And I don't think that's right. I don't think that's right either. I would like to congratulate the queen Nicki Minaj because she was projected

Starting point is 01:35:29 to sell 70,000 records off of a mixtape word off of a mixtape from 2009 yes I'm hitting around the applause again

Starting point is 01:35:38 kind of if you think about it do you know what she said I do like I do like this thing bringing all these mixtapes to streaming because I was worried for a minute Bringing all these mixtapes to streaming. Because I was worried for a minute.

Starting point is 01:35:46 I thought the mixtapes was heading out the door. That is a super impressive feat to sell 70,000 of a 10-year-old mixtape, 11, 12-year-old mixtape. Yeah, that's great. That's not to go unnoticed or without acknowledgement. That is powerful shit. I don't know if she has a project coming anytime soon, but that has

Starting point is 01:36:10 to provide some confidence. I wish a lot more artists would do it, but a lot of them can't afford to. I just saw Currency announce that he's bringing Covert Coop to Streaming Friday. I can see him being able to do that, though, because a lot of the classic mixtape era that we're talking about was other people's beats and shit.

Starting point is 01:36:25 Right. So, Cobra Kroop was with Alchemist, I think. Yeah, that was all original, so he can do that. Anything else in the music world happening? Is there any albums that we should be looking forward to this Friday? City Girls, man. Oh, shit, yeah. City Girls, bro.

Starting point is 01:36:39 Wait. You crazy? Time for the twerky later. I'm sorry? That's the name of the record. That's the name of it. And it's going up. That's all you want.

Starting point is 01:36:48 I want to see all the acts. Sorry if you're listening in a car and these gunshot effects are bothering you. Do we have a snippet of this? No. I don't need a snippet of this. I see that. I see that. And I know percolator. I'm that. And I know Percolator.

Starting point is 01:37:05 I'm good. No, not that Percolator, Joe. It's time for the Twerkolator. Amen. I'm sold. That's all I need. This is a smash. That's all I need, bro.

Starting point is 01:37:15 This is out of the park, Barry Bonds. I haven't heard anything from it. I don't need to hear nothing. I've only seen the artwork. And I've heard the song Percolator. That's it. I've taken perks. I've seen women twerk.

Starting point is 01:37:31 I think I know where this one is going, you guys. Memorial Day weekend coming up. Oh, my. Shout out to Jersey Club. Y'all don't. Now, they're going to have to change that beat. But if they don't... What if they don't?

Starting point is 01:37:50 If... Just put some 808s in there. Yeah, just put something with it. Bro, it's a rap. It's a rap. Time for the twerker later. If I see you jumping around throwing that dumbass there...

Starting point is 01:38:01 It's time for the twerker later. You're going to see me get my ones out. Throwing it in the air. Like I just don't see me get my ones out, throwing it in the air like I just don't care. I'm with you. Don't want to be in the fuck you talking about. Yeah, strip club dude

Starting point is 01:38:09 tried to play me on Saturday night. Let that come on. I tried to tuck it in the back of my brain, but that night I hit you. What'd he say? You want me to tell you?

Starting point is 01:38:19 The strip club dude? Yeah, I ain't going to put his name out there, but he tried to play me a little bit on a Saturday night. He said, don't come light. I ain't going to put his name out there, but he tried to play me a little bit on a Saturday night. He said, don't come light. I ain't like that.

Starting point is 01:38:28 He said Pump It Up was a long time ago. I ain't like that. He said, no, we can't play Pump It Up in the set. Because I called you. I was hype a little bit, right? Fan, what did the nigga say, man? Draw out the story with me. Oh, man.

Starting point is 01:38:41 Go ahead. It was a dark Saturday night. That's the voice you used. No, all right. I'll find out. I'll get to it fuck you nigga uh i hit him and i was like and he said what's good bro already we got an issue why cuz he ain't here what the fuck do you mean what's good bro you every time i've ever said you're you just send me secret address so why tonight on all nights are you giving me the what's good, bro?

Starting point is 01:39:10 He might have had an argument with his wife. All right, cool. So I play into it. Oh, he saw the news. He saw the news. Shut up, Mark. I didn't think of that, Piggity. I didn't catch that one.

Starting point is 01:39:20 I didn't think of that. He's the enforcer of it. I didn't think of that. I don't know if we want your vibes around here. Go ahead. Oh, maybe. Maybe. Hey, and in that case, I would have failed him.

Starting point is 01:39:31 I failed in that. If that's what happened, and I don't know that that happened, then I failed in that moment. But I hit him. I was like, yo, where's that? He said, what's good? I was playing, yo, where's that? No response.

Starting point is 01:39:42 Oh, no, there was a response. He said, yo. Sit this one out chief all the tables three grand four grand tonight oh he talked to you like you was chump he talked to you oh shit if you ain't got it let let me know. He hit you like that? I mean, I know that ain't, you know, Saturday night, I've been waiting all night

Starting point is 01:40:10 to get to Addie. And that's how you do me? Yeah, he talked to you like you was shit. So then my pride kicked in. I said, nigga, nigga, please. Nigga, I want two tables.

Starting point is 01:40:17 No, no, no, no, no, no. No, I don't. No, no, no, no, no, no. I said, nigga, please. That didn't face him at all. He ain't hit back. I doubled back.

Starting point is 01:40:33 What's that? Just what's the address, man? Yo, just tell me. Yo, I popped all these big Willie shots like, yo. Yo, dog. You ain't sending it to me? They ain't sending it, man. That Saturday just went on. Are you serious?

Starting point is 01:40:51 Went on and had a blast. They ain't send you the Addy? No, not at all. Never sent that Addy through. I ain't going nowhere. That's disrespectful. That's what I thought. So Sunday morning, I got right back to the body.

Starting point is 01:41:00 Yo, man. You don't think that was fucked up? You ain't, huh? My bad. My phone died. My bad. Yo, emergency. Y'all had an emergency. Oh, yeah. You don't think that was fucked up? You ain't, huh? My bad. My phone died. My bad. Yo, emergency. Yo, I had an emergency.

Starting point is 01:41:08 Oh, yeah. That's the thing. I got it. That'll be the last time you saw me. Word. That's just how I move. Like, oh, all right, cool. I'm off that.

Starting point is 01:41:15 Really? Yeah. You never saw me. You never see me again. I don't care what you got. How else are you spending your Saturday night? Once he shut me down, I didn't know what else to do. New York is opening back up. I don't even know what that means. Hey, before New York ever closed, I didn't know what else to do. New York is opening back up.

Starting point is 01:41:25 I don't even know what that means. Hey, before New York ever closed, I didn't know where to go. I'm not going to Last Lap. I'm not a pergola guy. I never was a cafeteria guy like you. Look at his face. Like you. There's no other little secret spots to go to in the city.

Starting point is 01:41:42 Your girl knows all the spots with Joe. Your girl know about all them secret spots? I don't know what she knows about. I didn't talk to her about it. Y'all don't have open communication? We definitely don't. Y'all don't have weekly meetings? I don't know what she was doing back in the day when I was running around, though. She was running around, like you.

Starting point is 01:41:58 I know, so I don't know where she was going. I don't know if she knew. She was out having a blast with niggas. Hopefully. How you feel about that? I don't got nothing to do with that. You trying to get this nigga. Yeah, he really be trying to make me trip. I know how to walk.

Starting point is 01:42:15 I know how to walk. What's wrong with this nigga, yo? All right, come on. Let's move right along. Move right along. CDC says people fully vaccinated against COVID-19 can shed masks in most indoor settings. And then they backtracked and said, wait, hold up. We ain't mean to snatch your masks off, though.

Starting point is 01:42:33 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 can forego their masks and social distancing in many indoor situations. Today, CDC is updating our guidance for fully vaccinated people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Give him a mask. All right. Everybody here is vaccinated, so this is great news. No, not everybody. You're not vaccinated, Imani?

Starting point is 01:42:56 All right, so you got herd immunity. You got herd immunity. It's us that's keeping you alive in this moment right now. Be grateful. Thank you, guys. Be grateful. herd immunity it's us that's keeping you alive in this moment right now be grateful thank you guys yo i'm watching the fucking opioid doc on uh on hbo have you seen it it's called uh it's called uh the greatest crime ever or crime of the century or some shit like that okay and they're giving you the entry level of opioids so darvasets it was called, whatever company was involved, I think it was Purdue, they were saying, it's called the Crime of the Century.

Starting point is 01:43:31 2021 HBO Max. So, you got to tell us these things so we can watch these. HBO Max, Crime of the Century. Listen, I put the phone down. I don't have internet. Yeah, you're failing us. I don't have, again. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:43:42 Again, I'm failing you. You're failing us. Well, I apologize. We need leadership. You're supposed to lead us to the show. I apologize. But I don't have... Again. Yeah. Again, I'm failing. You're failing us. Well, I apologize. We need leadership. You're supposed to lead us to the show. I apologize. But I don't have internet, so I've just been watching docs. And I've been watching the opioid doc, and they letting me know the beginning of opioids

Starting point is 01:43:53 and how the business got involved and what some of the pharmaceutical companies were doing to keep this rolling out here. And sure enough, who's right at the top of the opioid crisis, at the crime? Who's right at the top of the opioid crisis? At the crime? Who's at the entry level of disseminating the fucking where it goes, who gets it, the creation of it, the monetization of it? Guess. You guessed it.

Starting point is 01:44:15 I didn't guess it. Johnson & Johnson. J&J. Johnson & motherfucking. I was sitting there trimming. Why is Purdue the chicken company? Purdue? No, it's a different Purdue. Is that another Purdue

Starting point is 01:44:25 oh okay Johnson and fucking Johnson again and because I don't have internet anymore ish my brain

Starting point is 01:44:35 has just been free flowing in thought you know what I thought of when I well outside of me having the Johnson and Johnson vaccine inside of

Starting point is 01:44:43 my precious body and temple you know what I thought of what don't y'all cancel me outside of me having the Johnson & Johnson vaccine inside of my precious body and temple. You know what I thought of? Don't y'all cancel me. Well, yeah, they already tried to cancel me. I'm going to say it. Can't cancel me. I don't work for nobody. All right, Parks, get the bleep.

Starting point is 01:44:55 I don't work for nobody. You can only cancel me in your brain. I worked 20 years to be able to tell you suck my fucking cantaloupe juice. You don't love cantaloupe? Don't do that. Don't do that if my fucking cantaloupe you don't love cantaloupe don't do that don't do that if you love cantaloupe don't uh where was i going with this where was i going oh this is where i was going with this don't cancel me a hundred years ago when the racist companies were looking to capitalize off the pillaging of minority people.

Starting point is 01:45:28 But you had to also create a business. I assume some of the racist companies needed to take their pick of the litter in front facing images and mascots to protect some of their racist vibes. I think they had the pick of the litter back then. I think that Johnson & Johnson won that draft. They chose babies. If you don't know

Starting point is 01:45:56 nothing about Johnson & Johnson, you know they got baby oil, gel, baby oil, baby powder, baby everything. And they've been involved in some of the most treacherous acts this country has ever seen. Right now. And your mama probably loses that one. They picked that whatever they picked.

Starting point is 01:46:18 The Quaker Oats guy. All the people that picked their racist mascots. Y'all lost to Johnson & Johnson. I'm sorry. Look where this nigga brain be at. That's so genius to pick babies.

Starting point is 01:46:35 It's safe. There's people out there right now that have no idea about Johnson & Johnson's treacherous activities. They just know they make baby babies. Wow, man. Did you start Mary East Town yet? Oh, no. I only saw that first episode. Everybody keep saying watch it.

Starting point is 01:46:51 Everybody's saying it's great. Y'all got my number, right? How was it? Y'all could tell me this. I failed you, too. Y'all, everybody's saying it. I didn't watch it yet. I would have told you.

Starting point is 01:46:58 I didn't watch it yet, but everybody's saying it. Everybody's saying it's great. This comes on HBO, Mary East Town. I watched the first episode, and it looked like too much of a white violence crime story for me to care. That shit turns up. Nah, dog. But apparently they got where they needed to go. Is the whole series out or something already?

Starting point is 01:47:13 No, no. Every Sunday. One more episode next week. It's only seven, I think. All right. Every Sunday, I am going to check this out. This is not an ad. Shout out to HBO.

Starting point is 01:47:23 HBO Max has been killing, man. Yeah. Especially when you have absolutely no internet access. True. And you're not tweeting, and you're not reading tweets, and you're not on Instagram. And here come your girlfriend again. If you off Instagram, they got that liking pics.

Starting point is 01:47:40 Yo, can we have that discussion? I appreciate it. I appreciate my baby, man. Do they get a notification every time you like a pic? I don't know how that works. It's got to work one way or another. They probably got a burner. They just follow all the people you follow and have your timeline.

Starting point is 01:47:54 You tell your girl your whole plan. Yo, I'm dark off the internet. Mental health month. I got to stay right. Keep the energy out. Yeah, but why you liking these bitches? Take that. Oh, no.

Starting point is 01:48:04 I got one better than that. I'm just, no, I got one better than that. I'm just moving on. I got one better than that, though. She sent you a picture of a dress. You like this dress? It's all right. Oh, well, why you like this picture? She got it on.

Starting point is 01:48:13 I like the shoes. You got it on. I like the shoes. Oh, you quick with it. Ooh, I just stumbled. I was like, I'll draw, I'll draw, I'll draw, I'll draw. So what you want to eat? No, no, no, no.

Starting point is 01:48:23 That's where you get in trouble. You like me because of my shoes. The shoes is why you fell in love with me. No, I'm a shoe guy, nigga. Pretty feet and shoes. Or here's another one. But you got to be really stupid to do this, but that's fine because men are stupid.

Starting point is 01:48:40 And I'm stupid, so I've done this in my past. Where they send you a picture of a whole nother girl and you just start complimenting her. Hey, yo, you looking good today. Like, wow, what are you wearing? It's like, man, that's not me. Your leadership is very questionable. That one's not going to work, bro.

Starting point is 01:48:57 I've done that a million times. How? You don't know what your girl look like? No, not your girlfriend. I'm saying when you've said it to a young lady. It don't have to be your girl. OK. Just a girl you're kicking it with, you talk to.

Starting point is 01:49:06 And she sent you a picture of her. She sent you a picture trying to show you something else, and you're thinking it's her still. Yeah, no, I ain't never done that. You on your own with that one. You on your own boat with that one, playboy. I failed again. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:49:16 Damn. We failed you if that's what you're doing. What does everyone here think about the UFOs? Oh, they're out there. They're very real they confirmed it now I saw a clip from uh

Starting point is 01:49:28 there was a guy in 16 minutes we ain't gonna lie to y'all no more it's real he was in the UFO task force I have a story here uh oh

Starting point is 01:49:35 whenever the phone starts working the internet yeah uh you know that's what it is you gotta get the dial up

Starting point is 01:49:42 I have no internet on my phone use my um dial up password let me see here if I can find this That's what it is. You got to get the dial-up. I have no internet on my phone. Use my dial-up password. Let me see here if I can find this. Yeah, UFOs are real. Wow, Joe pulls that up. They not even hiding no more.

Starting point is 01:49:53 We might be the UFOs, though. Here we go. I've had that. In my conspiracy theorist talk that we are the aliens. This is from CBS News. I don't know if you guys are familiar with this story ufos regularly spotted in restricted u.s airspace that's the report on the phenomena due next month so what i heard is that one of the retired pilot dude dudes actually i'll just read it we have tackled many strange stories on 60 Minutes, but perhaps none like this. The story of the U.S. government's grudging acknowledgement of unidentified aerial phenomena, UAP, more commonly known as UFOs.

Starting point is 01:50:32 After decades of public denial, the Pentagon now admits there's something out there and the U.S. Senate wants to know what it is. The intelligence department, the Intelligence Committee, has ordered the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense to deliver a report on mysterious sightings by next month yeah bill whittaker so what are you telling me is that ufos uh are real blah blah blah he said bill would be on that point somebody that flies up there oh it's on the screen scream man you're the man somebody that flies up there and always flies up there spent 20 years running military intelligence operations worldwide in afghanistan the middle east and guantanamo he hadn't given ufos a second thought until 2008 that's when he was asked to join something at the pentagon called the advanced aerospace threat identification program or aatip are we getting

Starting point is 01:51:22 good now the mission of aATIP was quite simple, to collect and analyze information involving UFOs. Anomalous. Anomalous, not UFOs. Anomalous aerial vehicles, what I guess in the vernacular, you call them UFOs, we call them UAPs.

Starting point is 01:51:39 You know how this sounds? It sounds nutty and whack, says Bill. Lou says, look, Bill, I'm not. I'm not telling you that that it doesn't sound wacky what i'm telling you is it's real the question is what is it what are its intentions and what are its capabilities apparently they saw something up there that was much faster than their aircraft their rocket their spaceship it was moving in ways that they've never seen anything move before they said this shit made it like a l turn or some shit

Starting point is 01:52:04 like you can't 13 000 miles an hour oh they never seen me drive i make an l turn all the time oh y'all never know yeah go ahead go ahead come on all right forget it man yeah we're not yeah all right it made an l turn it was doing all types of shit and they're saying it's real i mean i believe that i've always believed it i don't know what the story is here other than them confirming it's out there yeah that's the story is here other than them confirming it. That's the story. They want to find out what it does. What's their nationality? What's their ethnicity?

Starting point is 01:52:34 They want to find out what the UFO does. Are they black people? No, what they trying to find out is what the fuck is going on? What you here for? The white people want to know what it does. Assemble the Avengers fam boy give me something

Starting point is 01:52:51 bro this shit is happening dog this shit is for real yo do y'all ever do y'all ever just look up and think about

Starting point is 01:53:00 life and all the serious moments in life that you've been a part of and really just assess where we are today with stories like this, with the aliens, with the COVID shit, with the vaccine, with us being locked inside, with just all of the things that's happening today. Do y'all ever just realize it? Black president, fucking then Trump, reality star, television, just all of it. What part?

Starting point is 01:53:23 All of it. Any of it. There's all of it any of it like there's a lot that happens today where I'm like thank God my grandma didn't see this thank God my grandma

Starting point is 01:53:29 don't know about this thank God my grandma's not alive for this cause all of this is nuts and I can't even believe that I'm alive for it I have that thought even sometimes

Starting point is 01:53:37 when I'm answering a FaceTime call all the shit we saw on the Jetsons as kids I'm answering a FaceTime call I'm gonna look at you and that's a normal yeah fam I walk in the house and talk on the Jetsons as kids. I'm answering the FaceTime call. I'm going to look at you and that's a normal. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:53:46 Bam. I walk in the house and talk to the, I just say, turn this on, turn that on, and it happens. You're talking to Siri. You're talking to Alexa. Just start talking. You know, I don't know, man. I pay attention to stuff like that. No, that's crazy.

Starting point is 01:53:59 Bro, I think it's Elliot. We done stumbled upon some shit and tapped into it cause if you look at the last hundred years we turned up we turned up real quick

Starting point is 01:54:11 like it was slow slow slow 100 100 like the last 20 but that's flying but what I'm saying

Starting point is 01:54:18 is you know they say the Roswell incident happened whatever 60s or something like that yeah something like that technology Yeah, something like that. Technology kind of took off right after that.

Starting point is 01:54:28 And I mean, at a rate, you know, you had automobile, trains. TVs. Yeah, little shit. Next thing you know, boom, the microchip comes. Next thing you know, boom, it's this, it's this, it's this. Bro, you can send money across the world from your phone. Like, the shit we doing now is ridiculous. They'd have never thought about it.

Starting point is 01:54:48 Yeah. I agree. And I do think that came from somewhere. You didn't just wake up yesterday and was like, all right, let's do this. No, you found something in reverse engineering. Absolutely. It's possible. Absolutely.

Starting point is 01:54:58 I just wonder what the government's need to protect us from this information would be. Would it be civil unrest do they think that absolutely people in the country would go try to find ufos like what could you do not even just that the hoarding the the armageddon's one of my favorites mine too what about it so he says we can't release the information and he was like why he said basically it will be civil unrest that's uncontrollable basically the worst parts of the bible

Starting point is 01:55:27 is what he said on Armageddon like dog niggas would be raping and pillaging and stealing and basically doing whatever the fuck

Starting point is 01:55:34 they wanted to do if you announced UFOs no just everything that came along with it UFOs would have people to lead will lead people to believe

Starting point is 01:55:42 that the end is coming at some point once they hear that what type of entitled shit is that like you the only form of life here will have people to lead will lead people to believe that the end is coming at some point. Then you start once they hear that what type of entitled shit is that? Like you the only form of life here. What are you talking about? The end is coming

Starting point is 01:55:52 because there's other forms of life. Yeah. I don't understand what you're saying. Yes. Do you know it maintains order? Religion maintains order. Right. So who are you telling that to?

Starting point is 01:56:01 Religion and fear. I'm just giving I'm talking to the people. Right. So I don't have to agree with that right you do not all right religion maintains order right maintains order so if you are saying that you believe in the quran you believe in the bible you believe in the torah any one of these books right and the books never mentioned any other forms of life right so now it's questionable everything that they say in these books. It may no longer hold value.

Starting point is 01:56:32 It may no longer be true. So I'm going to do what I'm doing. And I'm going to go back to Darwinism and just start trying to get mine in any possible way possible. No? Okay. I mean, I'm following. I'm just saying. I'm not saying it's accurate. I'm just saying.

Starting point is 01:56:50 So now the government has a hard job to maintain some order and some sense of control. I think the government has put a lot of entities here in an attempt to gain... Control. Yeah. Religion is one of them for me.

Starting point is 01:57:05 Absolutely. So again, just imagine if most people fear somehow your power. Fear is another one. Fear is bigger than you. Fear and religion go like this. Take your shit because some karmic presence is

Starting point is 01:57:21 going to present itself later on down the line. I'm going to pay for what I've done. Work is another one for me. Control. Yeah, why does everybody go to work? And now you're just getting me really into my conspiracy brain. Yeah, I mean. But I love that question when I'm home alone.

Starting point is 01:57:39 Why does everyone go to work? What's the alternative? This is the earth. It's our earth. It's a beautiful planet. Why can't we live and exist? I don't think that a higher power put us all here and said, hey, work and get money to survive or you'll die. I do believe in some of that savvy shit.

Starting point is 01:57:55 Well, most of the savvy shit about, hey, we adapt and we live. We survive. The earth is here and you work your way through that. We're all working. here and you work your way through that we're all working like if i really get into work and what it means and what it does for the people who have and don't have it's toxic as shit absolutely the mere idea the premise of everybody having to go and do something for the earth to survive is arrogant to me like who the fuck do y'all think y'all are it's not y'all saving the earth it's the earth saving y'all i don'tall are it's not y'all saving the earth

Starting point is 01:58:25 it's the earth saving y'all I don't want to get into this right now because this is just my own personal thoughts about work but yeah

Starting point is 01:58:31 for now everybody has to go to work you gotta survive shout out to the workers yeah me too shout out to the workers

Starting point is 01:58:38 shut the fuck up and not workers like we're offending trying to offend people to go to work we gotta stop fucking making that narrative. Because I, not we,

Starting point is 01:58:47 it was you on Twitter. It was you on Twitter offending the workers. I wasn't. People were DMing me saying, saying, yo man, Parks is saying, and I ignored him.

Starting point is 01:58:57 Then they came back and said, oh, I see what he was saying. Yeah. So you don't say we, don't try to we this. No. You failed us.

Starting point is 01:59:04 I work. You failed us. You failed us. Both of y'all failed. Look, Parks don't try to we this no you failed us i work you failed parks don't want to fit i'm just trying to find out i don't understand why the word employee or worker or soldier or anything has become an offensive term because everybody want to be a because because today things come with this negative connotation like work like a few other things that shall remain nameless everything everything is offensive today yeah and that's part of why it's important to put the phone down like it's important during mental health month for me to say phil fam y'all don't get to paint me with the brush that y'all painting with i ain't no nasty perverted yeah shut up i don't even know you niggas shut up

Starting point is 01:59:47 that's important it's important to uh never lose sight of just what's real and what's what's not uh i was getting somewhere with uh this other point i was coming in with oh off of this worker shit the same way there's a fee if you are jailed there's a fee every man that's jailed that holds a price the same way students go to school every one of the students is worth something to the government is you making a face give it to me so i could watch this you i'm just hearing where you're going give it to me so i could watch this sauce i'm just listening you know the human you know the humans wherever we go carry a worth yes that's section eight taxes which are kids how many kids you got how many dependents claim school jail wherever else there is humans just carry a worth so if two, or three families take 95% of all the wealth and they get some of that wealth just from mere fact of somebody being born, my wild brain says we should be paid for existing here.

Starting point is 02:00:57 We should be paid just for everybody. If you get a social security number, you should be paid. You are taking up space just like real estate. You're a real estate guy. There's a a social security number, you should be paid. Universal income. You are taking up space. Just like real estate. You're a real estate guy. There's a political theory behind that. Universal income. You are.

Starting point is 02:01:10 Universal basic income. And I support that. You're a real estate guy. So you know no more land can be created on earth. You taught me that. You taught me that. Right. Don't try to run away from what you taught me.

Starting point is 02:01:21 You taught me that real estate is important because the earth is the earth and whatever land exists is the only land you can have. I say the same thing exists with humans. If a land exists somewhere that's worth something, whether you own it or not, and it carries a value, then every person that occupies space here carries a value. We talk about what's the value of streaming, what's the value of living here? What is the value of living here? What is the value of existing here? All the different ways that you monetize my birth, my social security number, and this name that somebody gave me.

Starting point is 02:01:54 Now we potting. Now you don't want to talk. Don't worry about it. I failed you. No, no, no. I failed you. I failed you. Don't worry about it.

Starting point is 02:02:02 Let's move on. No, no, no. We can't. Let's move on. Don't worry about it. I'm cool. Watch this. Watch this. Who's responsible?. No, no, no, we can't. Let's move on. Don't worry about it. I'm cool. Watch this. Watch this.

Starting point is 02:02:06 You just said it carries a value. One, who does it carry a value to? And then two, who's responsible for paying the people for existence? It carries a value to the people that control 95% of the wealth in the world. Not the country, but the world. Right? And that should answer your second question too. So they should be responsible for paying

Starting point is 02:02:34 people every time every time they're born. Tammy and John John lay down and have a baby. They should get a check. You're birthed into a currency cycle. I agree. Yes. At every birth because hospitals make money from every birth there goes up a food chain of who's paid from every birth and death and if a new consumer is born and if yes and if one two or three families

Starting point is 02:03:02 control all of it then at every birth we should be getting paid like the unemployment line. We didn't ask to be here. Here we are. Pay us. That's my wild brain. I would never see a world. I won't be alive in a world where that happens. But the powers that be and the three families didn't ask you motherfuckers to be here either.

Starting point is 02:03:18 I'm listening. Your mother and father had casual sex or loving sex and bore a person into the world. Not true. That's not true. I'm not done. Go ahead. And you're saying that it is now my responsibility in which to give you money for your sexual escapade. That's what you said.

Starting point is 02:03:37 I did say that. I'm not saying that. But we gave you this nice new consumer. I'm not saying that. Yeah. Wait, wait, hold up, hold up. I'm with Parks. My mom and up i'm with parks my mom and dad no no no no no let me talk i hear my polyps kicking in my mom and dad had casual sex maybe on a drunken high night when they maybe weren't in love when they weren't man who the fuck knows but they did it under the idea of free will

Starting point is 02:04:06 indeed and that's a myth free will is a myth yeah of course it's a myth in this world yes argue with me argue yes argue with me let me finish my point first not a myth but go ahead let me finish my point they did it under the myth of free will. There's no such thing as free will. Everything is controlled. There is a dictatorship on this world. Maybe not on Mars. You're talking about-

Starting point is 02:04:34 Maybe not when we leave, but here- In a macro level, not a micro level. In both levels, in every level. What do you- Explain it to me. Okay. Don't do that. Just say. Okay. Don't do that. Just say you're fucked.

Starting point is 02:04:48 Don't do that. Don't crack your neck. Don't crack your neck when you fuck it. I like this. That's your new watch this. That's your new watch this. Watch this.

Starting point is 02:04:56 Get your shit off. Watch this. Free will, right? When you graduate high school, you have the option... That's where you started? Then you wrong when you start. If you started that when you graduated high school, you have the option. That's where you started? Then you're wrong when you start. If you started that when you graduated high school, then you're wrong at your start.

Starting point is 02:05:10 I would love to speak. Have a blast. Right? I failed you. As a child, your moves are dictated by your parents. So that's why I started at high school. Because that's when you're quote unquote technically starting adulthood. You can't you have the ability to go to college.

Starting point is 02:05:28 You have the ability to get a job. You have ability to go join the Peace Corps in Africa. The illusion of free will. OK, so now. What the choices that you make dictate your life. Right. So the illusion of free will. That's not true. Well well that's where our point

Starting point is 02:05:47 of contingency is so it's not the choices you make dictate your life the choices i make for your life dictate your life you just are under the illusion that you have some control of it and that's not where we are in this world you do have that is not true all right tell me what control you have i could go outside and blow my brains out right now if I wanted to I'm listening I have an option I have a choice I could if you blow your brains out you're out the game alright so I'm saying

Starting point is 02:06:13 I can now go get a job or I could go get a pack and sell drugs on the street they're gonna take my life in two drastically different paths both of those situations are controlled you have you don't have a choice you don't have options in either one of those yes i do what options you think you got a lot of them they're controlled environments every environment has

Starting point is 02:06:36 some level of control you name unless you go to the amazon every level of bro you started with school i did which is controlled and the alternative was the streets, which is controlled. No, I said you go get a job. Which is controlled. Okay. Again, I have the option to do both. You have the option to blow your brains out and take yourself out the game. And I have the option...

Starting point is 02:06:59 But as long as you're not doing that, whatever you choose that you think is just your own thought it ain't you're bugging you're you're confusing being in a controlled environment with somebody picking my options for me they're both the same they're not the same tell me how i can dictate if i want to go to college or not not if you're in a controlled environment yes i can no that's what it's my responsibility to allow you to think that if you're in a controlled environment it's my responsibility to keep you under that illusion so let me ask you this now what the fuck are you working for every day then what the fuck are you arguing with rory and maul for then if it's all under one controlled environment and you don't have free will what the fuck are we here for what are you arguing with them for you ready because your choices are being made by somebody else you ready

Starting point is 02:07:50 under your premise you asked me a question i'm ready for your answer meaningless paper no that's not true paper with dye on it we're not even talking about money paper you asked me a question but and you you asked me you asked me a question, and you asked me a question, and I'm answering it honestly. You said, what do I believe I'm arguing with Maul and Rory about? And through all the friendship and through all this respect shit, at the end of the day, what it boils down to is we're arguing over the belief or disbelief in something that happened transactionally with a dollar. We are arguing over paper that somebody made up and what's some paper with a dead president for of a white man that i don't believe in that i don't fuck with who was a slave owner this paper means nothing in in the in real life

Starting point is 02:08:36 but because this is real life it means something to all of us that's the controlled environment i get it i get it and it's the myth of free will because we don't have the liberty to make our own decisions if parks made his own decisions without the implication of money having it or not having it uh being desperate not being desperate your family being up your family being being down. His decisions would be different. Nobody in this room makes decisions without the implication of my need versus my want. Having versus not having. Being desperate versus being rich. And that's where some of this division comes in with the Republican Democrat.

Starting point is 02:09:21 With the black, with the white. With the capitalist versus socialist. With the left versus right, with the division everywhere. But all of that is a myth. None of you niggas, whatever side you choose that you think is right, is right.

Starting point is 02:09:36 Because we control them both. Now let me take it away. I'm going to take it to the most carnal level, right? Crack your neck, though. Crack your neck. No, man. I'm going to take it to the most carnal level. I don't even know man i'm about to i'm gonna take it to the most carnal level i don't even know how to do it let's let's go back to caveman days right right fuck politics fuck capitalism fuck republicans fuck democrats

Starting point is 02:09:54 fuck color fuck ethnicity we're gonna go back to the real carnal uh uh caveman days kill it be killed i ain't see this doc, but go ahead. Yeah, it's my doc. So now you're making moves based on an ulterior motive that is not money related. You're making moves based on survival. Right? So now I have free will to go hunt or to go fish or to starve. I have free will to now take my family and move that way. You're fighting for your family and you're fighting for survival.

Starting point is 02:10:32 We're taking money out of this. I'm following you. So again, I have now the will to make decisions on my own or what is best for my family. Not about a dollar. Stop. No, no, no, no. Ish, you're better than this I think you're just

Starting point is 02:10:47 arguing to argue I'm not though you don't believe what you're saying right I do alright so let's do this hold up let me crack

Starting point is 02:10:53 let me do whatever I need some cool shit to crack my knuckles when I think I got a point I mean today we arguing money cause that environment is not controlled

Starting point is 02:11:03 let me just finish today we we arguing money. Because that environment is not controlled. Let me just finish. Today, we're arguing money as the capital. That's why I took us back to a place where the environment is not controlled. And that's where I want to go. Wait, wait, wait. Time out, time out. Capital in that era, I don't know what it was. It wasn't money in the history that i see in the docs that i watch at every different point in time capital was different when johnson and johnson

Starting point is 02:11:35 found out about opioids and they went to fucking shave the opioid bushes or whatever they came up with some new way they were selling the dust that was the capital so they were able to monetize it and develop a business and that other shit that we watched that we came in here and champion the white people had the weapons they got the gunpowder from china they had the weapons the weapons let me finish my point don't before of course you are that's capitalism but my premise is the same even back then i wasn't there and I'm not educated enough because it's out of my range but what was the capital in the caveman times what was that thing that helped people

Starting point is 02:12:12 to be able to survive and adapt it wasn't money it could have been animals it might have been territory at a different point the niggas that had gold I'm not talking about the barter system.

Starting point is 02:12:25 I'm not talking. I'm talking pre-that. I'm talking pre-that. I was born in the 1980s. No. You was born in the 1600s. I don't know what they did, what the cavemen did. I'm just saying.

Starting point is 02:12:37 Maybe it was lava. Like, that's how. I don't know. Hey, we take it back to Egyptian times. They was doing pyramids and putting shit, and we still ain't figured out how they did some of that shit with the capital. What were they working with?

Starting point is 02:12:50 What were they working with in this time? With all our technology, with all our education, all of these fucking years, we still don't know what they was doing. Parks has the ability to go join a peace corps tomorrow. So he thinks. He does. The peace corps comes with rules and regulations.

Starting point is 02:13:04 Okay. You don't think they fuck with me? That'd be a little too much. You're a nice guy. No, I think that every group that exists, exists from somewhere. If you want to tell me about the sororities, the fraternities,

Starting point is 02:13:19 if you want to tell me about Freemasons, if you want to tell me about the CIA, the FBI, if you want to tell me about Freemasons, if you want to tell me about the CIA, the FBI, if you want to tell me about the fucking, anybody you name exists from somewhere and some point in history. And I have a blast in my brain sitting home figuring out, hey, what them niggas were doing back then? Like what they was on. And back to my original point, because maybe I'm not educated enough to even argue this with you-ish. I just don't really believe in free will the older i get and that those are the conversations i'm having with my kid it's not so much the free will it's yo hey kiddo man i love you and don't listen to me because i'm gonna keep telling you when you learn to scam and everything that exists

Starting point is 02:14:02 you're gonna sound like me you're gonna sound like the old bitter i believe jaded no i agree with guy hey i'm watching i watch my dad who's raising two younger brothers of mine without my influence in a whole different house and he gotta catch himself hey man i gotta watch how i talk to the TV I gotta watch how I scream at some of the all white teams that I hate like Duke because my kids are picking it up from me by mistake

Starting point is 02:14:33 I don't even remember why I'm bringing that up right now what was we talking about free will UFOs before that we were talking about free will we just are our teachings and the second that we learn well we're born and then all we do here We were talking about free will. We just are our teachings. And the second that we learn what we're born and then all we do here is learn.

Starting point is 02:14:59 The second that we learn that everything that we've learned is wrong, we realize, oh, free will is a myth. We're going to be here. We're going to try to leave this worthless paper, dyed paper to our kids. And our kids might be knuckleheads enough to blow it or do something with it, but we won't be here to see it regardless. Free will and what? At one point, you're going to learn everything you worked for in life could be jeopardized in a moment's instance. Still doesn't negate the worth or the value like when you start who is determining the worth and the value of things back to the illusion of free then free

Starting point is 02:15:30 will is an illusion then free will is an illusion and you better get with some value and you better get with some internal happiness you're staking value and what makes you feel good during your fucking time here because anything other than that that, as you age, you learn. It's a fucking myth. No, because you're staking happiness or value on a system given to you by society. That's what makes Parks happy. Wait, I am.

Starting point is 02:15:56 Wait, no, no, no, I am. Let me get my sentence out. What makes Parks happy may not have any monetary value at all. It may not have any monetary value at all. It may not have any monetary value at all. Parks could enjoy riding his bike every fucking day. Then that's monetary value. But he had to buy the bike.

Starting point is 02:16:11 No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, it's not. Where the fuck is he getting a bike? Say walking. Parks can enjoy walking. Walking where? Outside.

Starting point is 02:16:18 No. He can go outside. Outside where? I could. I could. Hey, you walking along the San Francisco Bridge is different from you walking up the steps in the Bronx that the Joker movie was filmed

Starting point is 02:16:30 on. Them white people can act like it's fun and games over there all you want, but niggas ain't just walking down there. You're changing the narrative. No, I'm not. I'm saying that as monetary. He can go jogging. He can enjoy jogging. That's his solace. He can go lift weights at the gym. That's his that's his solace he can go lift weights at the gym that's his happy space

Starting point is 02:16:46 and wherever they place you in the world that you don't control is gonna weigh on how much you enjoy that jog hey

Starting point is 02:16:56 every morning I wake up I look at the fucking boardwalk out there you know what's going on out there cause you be out there they walking they running

Starting point is 02:17:02 they walking they having a blast out there. That's enjoyable. That make a nigga that don't even enjoy walks that, yo, I'm getting out there. That looks great.

Starting point is 02:17:12 I'm up here smoking a cig. Why don't I run a little bit? I bought a bike. Okay. You taught me what a Peloton was. That's a beautiful walk. Okay. And everywhere on earth

Starting point is 02:17:23 is not a beautiful walk. You can enjoy walking. Nothing to do with free will and a decision earth is not a beautiful walk you can enjoy walking nothing to do with free will and a decision to go take a walk if you want see all right i see where we at i see where we at i understand what you're saying i see what you're saying i just disagree a little bit i see what you're saying i like making music i believe there's a place that you took i love it i'm here yeah i'm with you i'm with you you're a poet what fuck you let me say this before you make your point you liked writing i believe that there is direct relation between love and hate and anything you love at some point in life if you're blessed enough to live long enough you can hate it i agree i agree with that so now let's go. Rap. I want to do it. No, fuck rap. See, rap is a job. Music. No, poetry.

Starting point is 02:18:07 Poetry. Rappers are poets, and you put it to a beat. Parks is a musician. You make beats? Mm-hmm. Parks is a musician. He makes beats, right? So that's a whole different craft, in my opinion.

Starting point is 02:18:19 Some people do both. Mm-hmm. But the act of writing words that rhyme and expressing your feelings on paper could bring you joy. That's enjoyable to you. Even if you didn't get a monetary penny from it, it's people that when they die could potentially have dictionaries full of fucking poems that they wrote because they got some mental release or some spiritual or emotional release from it. That wasn't a value staked on that. They did that because that was their happy place. Or they were allowed to think that.

Starting point is 02:18:52 Okay. Because if that same person... I don't get what he said. I don't get what he said. They were allowed to think that. Let's do it. The feeling that I got when I wrote this dope or when I painted this dope-ass picture

Starting point is 02:19:03 wasn't allowed by somebody else to give me. Yeah, sure it was. Because whatever the setting was, whatever the environment was, whatever the predicament was that allowed for me to love this, I'm grateful for and I love. I could also paint a setting. And while we're alive, you have to put yourself in a setting somewhere if you're alive. I could also paint a setting where you could do what you truly love. And because of what surrounds you, you aren't happy, even though that's the only thing that brings you happiness. That's why I said that, Ice.

Starting point is 02:19:38 This is the gentleman that one issue is talking about is the guy that was able to pay his bills fortunately. He has time it's the guy that handled his whatever uh life-threatening disease he had had the health care he had knew the people people loved him people who knows but for every guy he paints i could change the setting around him and he will hate what he loved i'm saying that as somebody that has at one point hated something that kept me alive for so long which is music if you change the setting and you change the scenario i could hate it the girl i fell in love with if you change the scenario change the argument i could hate it my two fucking road dogs that i do a job with if you change the scenario you change the setting i could hate it that's not me controlling that that's gratitude at all times because the almighty powers that be decided that the setting was great enough

Starting point is 02:20:37 for me to enjoy what i do but at the blink of an eye fuck and it's no such thing as free will at the blink of an eye you can get a call and said death occurred what you love you don't love anymore that can happen you don't have any control you still love what you love but just that fast the setting changed how you receive your only love i disagree i know and that's why we're friends. Again, because... That's why we're friends. Because again, I... Because we can have these long, exacerbated fights. I don't agree with that either. Yeah, I went to painting and you took it to the scenery. Shut up.

Starting point is 02:21:08 Right? I went to painting and you took it to scenery and setting. The act of painting is something that somebody enjoys. There's no such thing as a free act. That's the point I'm saying. There is no such thing as a free act. I disagree. And that's because you believe in the illusion of free will

Starting point is 02:21:25 so you think we act though there is no free act every act comes with a you about to get me in a radical conspiracy zone every act comes with a cost every act in this world when you play a card in spades you play a card there will be a reaction something your universe will do something indeed there is a cost and a carry to everything that happens you better be aware oh yes yes that's what physics then what do you want me to say there's an equal and opposite reaction every time i might not even have the range to argue some of my thoughts i'm just telling you my thoughts i agree with that though for every every action there's something with it sorry you guys i didn't mean to carry that so long maybe i failed you i didn't want to come in here and talk about

Starting point is 02:22:04 conspiracy theories and free will and the illusion of this and that you didn't tell one joke I'm sorry ain't shit funny ain't nothing funny god damn what the fuck

Starting point is 02:22:15 you want me to jump in that hole up man playing with these niggas playing with these niggas we here today man my polyps is acting up yo what look bring the beat in sounds't ask you a question a polyp is a little bump that appears on your vocal cords that affect your ability to speak it affects how high you can go in octave how low you can go depending on where it is i would have gotten surgery but they told

Starting point is 02:22:53 me my voice might not ever be the same and i was a rapper at the time that scared me so i do have polyps so when my voice is over exercised you can just hear it you can hear it oh that's why I used to have to when you used to do the back to back shows you used to have to kind of yeah

Starting point is 02:23:09 I had to chill out I had to shut up or I had to get get some guys to be a hype man I needed multiple hype men so they could say the words with me

Starting point is 02:23:18 I would sing along with the record my voice I wasn't built to do two shows on back to back night and then your shows that was tough for a tour.

Starting point is 02:23:25 This thing is rapping for seven minutes. My shows are two and three hours. You got to pile up on your vocal cords. It's not right. Again, free will. You love rapping. You think you can rap. Now what?

Starting point is 02:23:34 Now what? There's something on your throat. You can't do nothing. You run out on stage. You can't even talk. Now what do you love? You still love it, but you can't do it. You still love it, but you can't do it.

Starting point is 02:23:43 You love it. The act. See, look. Don't worry about it. You still love it, but you can't do it. You love it. The act. See, look. Don't worry about it. You have the choice. You have the choice of either trying to figure out a way to keep doing it or give it up. Mom, you get what you get in life. Indeed.

Starting point is 02:23:53 You have no say about it. You get what you get in life. And you make the best of it. Free will is a myth. And the choices that you make. You can't tell me what you're going to get tomorrow. I can't. Neither can he.

Starting point is 02:24:02 Neither can he. Neither can he. But guess what? You can plan your best to get to it. And guess it ain't gonna come free will's a myth what are you telling me whoa whoa i'm gonna crack your muffin real quick crack your neck then do your shit bring the beat in you you i forgot the quote so i'm gonna fuck it up but 90 of life is what happens i'm 10 of life is what happens 90 of is how you respond to it those responses are conscious and deliberate decisions made by you you responding to life is your free will or what it throws at you

Starting point is 02:24:34 is your free will when it throws you lemons you make lemonade nigga you that's that's the free will piece oh man you fucking with a nigga that was suicidal before. Let me crack my neck. And if you would have did that, that was your free will to exercise. You ready? And now you have this beautiful podcast. So we're glad that you didn't. Beautiful through your eyes. Beautiful through my eyes. Let me ping pong it back for a second.

Starting point is 02:24:57 What if, and I don't know this. There's no way to prove this. How would we know? We're all still here but what if our sole purpose and duty on earth was something that only happened until death what you mean like sole purpose on earth was something that only happened until death why are you here i don't know that's the question of why are you here like you don't i don't know but even if you had an answer it would be your brain and all that makes you and all that creates you telling me what your fucking

Starting point is 02:25:37 insignificant brain thinks you're here for right correct but what if the almighty powers that be and i'm gonna try to leave this because i don't want to lose anybody here this is a lot what if the almighty powers that be and I'm going to try to leave this because I don't want to lose anybody this is a lie what if the almighty powers that be said your sole purpose here is to resoil the soil what if your only job your most important one job here was to live go be nothing because you're nothing

Starting point is 02:25:59 and die and contribute back to the earth the beautiful earth that all we do is fucking rotten and diseased soil. I can't say that. Nobody else can either. But I won't dismiss it because I'm alive. I don't know what our purpose here is. Correct.

Starting point is 02:26:15 But it certainly ain't to run around and chase dyed paper. That ain't it. No, I get it. If you want me to believe that our higher power put us here to go to work 9 to 5 Monday through Friday to fucking feed our families

Starting point is 02:26:29 pass something down I don't that makes me a radical I'll take it the paper is a medium in which you might need to fulfill your higher purpose so if your higher purpose was to help the sick and on your journey you made money which now allowed you to open up a nonprofit, which could be the biggest nonprofit in the world.

Starting point is 02:26:51 And you are now helping people. Helping people was your purpose. The money is just a medium that got you to your purpose. But how do you know that's your purpose? We don't. I'm just giving an example, right? But even in your example, your purpose is resoiling. Okay. right but even in your example your purpose is resoiling resoiling okay hey what you said if my job is that dyed paper the paper is just a vehicle that takes you to your purpose but forget about

Starting point is 02:27:14 that i'm staying with where you just said and then i'm leaving this y'all can talk about what you want if my job is to relate relay information and that is and that's the job the one job i don't know amani from a can of paint, but my 40 years on earth, the sole purpose was for him to get one thing I said and me die and him carry it on. Then who the fuck am I to say if that's right or wrong? That's back to resoiling still. It's not a right or wrong issue.

Starting point is 02:27:38 Your whole existence was for one stranger to pick something up and apply it? Could be. It could be. Then you're nothing and free will's a myth. Like I'm saying. How does that apply

Starting point is 02:27:49 to free will? Because no matter what you do, if that's your purpose, that's what's gonna happen. That's what he's getting. I don't believe in fate anyway, but I'm just saying.

Starting point is 02:27:58 Bring the beat in. Hold up. Bring the beat in. Hold up. Bring the beat in. Yeah, yeah. We never do. Like the sageman.

Starting point is 02:28:04 Hey, damn it up.'m telling y'all too. It's just the only person I can argue with this shit about. Bring the beat in. That's fun. Niggas want to question the aliens now, boy. Hold up. Fine, he's aliens. What you want?

Starting point is 02:28:25 All right, come on, come on, come on, come on. Come on, come on, come on. Let's go, let's go, he's aliens. What you want? All right, come on, come on, come on, come on. Come on, come on, come on. Let's go, let's go, let's go. We done talking about weirdo shit? Yeah, we done. UFOs. We done. They here.

Starting point is 02:28:33 Spaceships. Free will. Look up. Pay attention. What my man said on Boys in the Hood. What? Quasars. Any movie from the 90s.

Starting point is 02:28:43 The early 90s. Look, the first one. Have you seen any newer movie that's been? He went to Boys in the Hood. Man, you seen anything new? No? Boys in the Hood. Yo, you seen, nigga?

Starting point is 02:28:56 He was in here quoting Harlem Nights for work earlier. That's what I was doing? It was. We weren't doing. No, you was quoting. Hey, yo, this guy. You might be. I'm talking about the music

Starting point is 02:29:13 man it's just cold man i'm cutting it off i'm cutting i ain't letting it rock nah i gotta let a little bit right just a little bit and we're good man give me four bars and i'm back to normal. Back on top, punching the clock, clutching sanity. I got more cribs to habitat for you. I got that shit on. I got that. Yo, yo. Yeah, because he's ready to go.

Starting point is 02:29:33 Just chill out. He's ready to go again. Just relax. Yo, I took a shower in the nighttime. I took a 9 p.m. shower. That's not my bag. What's wrong with that? the fuck yeah well you've introduced us to a new conversation now wait i don't really respect the shower at night dude i don't that's me i'm telling you what do you mean man what are you

Starting point is 02:29:59 talking about why are you showering at night i'm not getting in my bed with outside on me. Then you a loser. With outside on. What the fuck? Some of us would actually be outside. You're fucking grass eating lion. Nigga, go to bed with your balls musty. Go to bed with your balls sticking to the right side of your thigh. No. Go to bed, fucking scratch your pubes, smell it.

Starting point is 02:30:23 In the morning, I'm going to get rid of this. In the morning, I'm going to get rid of this. In the morning, I'm going to get rid of this. So you're one shot with it. A nighttime dude. Oh, I need to get into bed clean. Yo, you're joking, right? You're saying that with ridicule, though. Like, that's a bad thing.

Starting point is 02:30:37 It's my bed. Wait, I need to go. Y'all are such fucking pansies no I'm trying to see if you're joking are you serious no I'm very serious I took a shower at night time and that was a change in schedule I was like you know what

Starting point is 02:30:56 I am stressed I go to sleep at 9 o'clock at night though I know so I'm not taking a shower at 7pm that's not what I'm doing so I did that I did it but I'm not taking a shower at 7 p.m. That's not what I'm doing. So I did that. I did it. But I don't respect y'all. Wake up and prepare for the day and wash yourself.

Starting point is 02:31:12 See? You fucking caveman. You never showing respect. Washing in the night. You feeling scared? In the nighttime, I'm out. I'm on my third shift of dirt. So you take that to bed with you?

Starting point is 02:31:27 Poor, oh man. Am I tripping? I failed. I failed, I failed. Is it me? Am I tripping? Nigga, yes. You had some ptosis.

Starting point is 02:31:37 It's you, nigga. Hey, you was showering at night, stinking. You too. You was stinking too one day. Who you talking to this is the joke I'm saying hold on this is the same

Starting point is 02:31:51 person who said yo can I tell y'all that part of podcasting is performative art this is the same Joe who said it's theatrics I'm not worried

Starting point is 02:31:59 about a skunk because I stink I don't know if it's stink stunk how the fuck did I know I know if Ish stink stunk. How the fuck did I know? I know the escort looked pleased when he was over there. The fuck are y'all talking? The escort

Starting point is 02:32:12 was happy. She didn't seem like there was a stench in the vicinity when we was fucking escorts at the same time. Bad episode to say all that. That nigga was... Hey, Ish had all the Irish spring in his trunk. Ish had all types of goodies. His girl was never going to catch him. That nigga had Polo cologne.

Starting point is 02:32:32 He had everything. I'm like, yo, Ish, how much dick maintenance do you need? Hey, yo. Hey, yo, what is wrong with this guy, man? Come on, man. NBA playoffs this guy, man? Come on, man. The NBA playoffs. Yeah, man. The NBA playoffs.

Starting point is 02:32:49 The play-ins have started. The play-ins. Yo, but that's back to my point earlier about you ever look at the FaceTime and realize, holy shit, I'm on FaceTime. They changed the play-off rules. Nigga, they changed everything. Football is 17 weeks now. I mean, 17 17 games that was weird

Starting point is 02:33:05 everything's changed yeah they trying to capitalize i'm not bad about the play though i think it's an interesting format i do like i think it's an interesting format i like i like the plan it seems to have worked every time they've tried it yeah i'm more excited about the playoffs because my knicks are a fourth seed clap it for them bro yeah man this was a joke for a minute this is i'm like fourth seed that's nice the knicks not only are the knicks a four seed but they've worked themselves into a matchup with atlanta who we beat beaten three times i never feel good about that when you beat a team all the time and then play them in the playoffs that that's going to be tough for the Knicks.

Starting point is 02:33:46 But I like that we beat them and we're playing them. I like that better than us playing Miami, so I'll take it right. I bet you do. I also like, don't do that, Ish. I also like, you think that's free will. The NBA set this up this way. I also like that if we beat Atlanta, we have Philadelphia. Clap it up for that. You said you like that? That's it, Ph, we have Philadelphia. Clap it up for that.

Starting point is 02:34:05 You said you like that? That's it, Philly. Make it. You want to play Philly? He wants us to run around chasing one of these young teams. Yeah, I want to play Philadelphia. That's what he wants. I don't want to play Milwaukee.

Starting point is 02:34:21 Milwaukee is the worst matchup for the Knicks. For the Knicks in style. Stylistically, I don't want to see them. The Nets are the Nets. They have three of the big dogs. You know what time it is. I like that all that action is happening over there. Philly just big and long.

Starting point is 02:34:41 They can't shoot. And we are big. We are big. That's They can't shoot. And we are big. We are big. We have big bodies. I don't pick us to beat Philadelphia. I get what you're saying. Out of the three teams, I like Philly,

Starting point is 02:34:59 the number one team in the East. A big, tall team. They beat us. We struggled against them, but we were down a few men. They can't shoot. We shoot a little bit. That's true. A big tall team. I just love to see that, man. They beat us. We struggled against them, but we were down a few men. They can't shoot. We shoot a little bit. They're big. We're not so big, but we got big bodies. I like that matchup. I agree.

Starting point is 02:35:14 I like it. I'm not picking us to beat the Sixers. Don't get me wrong. But if the game went, well, I'm not going to do that. I put that in a verse before. The Knicks beat Miami. Shut up, Joe. And then you to do that. I put that in a verse before. The Knicks beat Miami. Shut up, Joe. You don't know.

Starting point is 02:35:27 And then you said in five. I felt good about our chances. But this year, if the Knicks beat Philly in seven, I think they can make it interesting. Oh, shit. I think that they have a chance. I wouldn't be so shocked if the Knicks prevailed. It would be surprising.

Starting point is 02:35:43 No. Because I've been saying tank for Cade. Tank, tank, tank, tank. But apparently I was wrong. I've been wrong before. I failed. I failed Vegas. I failed my projections.

Starting point is 02:35:55 I have failed the people. Yo, enough of these bums in the Eastern Conference. Can we get to the Western Conference? Why? Because the Lakers have resigned there. You have to face. Whomever. No, no, no. You got to play in game. You ain't even got a series. You got to play in game. You have to face... Whomever. No, no, no. You got to play in game.

Starting point is 02:36:06 You ain't even got a series. You got to play in game and you got to face him. Who's him? Him. Nigga, you know. So who's LeBron? Chef Curry with the pot. Who's LeBron? The fuck is you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? It ain't a series.

Starting point is 02:36:21 It's one and done. Yo, I'm a LeBron guy. I don't get to ask my question. You saw how excited LeBron was when he played with him. When he played with him at the All-Star game. He took all the pictures he could take with him. If Steph Curry had an album coming, LeBron would have A&R'd it. LeBron, you my man. But I seen how excited you was before halftime when you threw that pass and that nigga hit it from like 50 feet out.

Starting point is 02:36:43 You look like, wow. You look like what I look like in my living room when I see him do it. I see him and I say, oh, wow. The game winner against the Thunder, one of the greatest game winners you ever saw in your life where somebody just crossed the half court and shot it. And before the ball went in, you're looking at Steven Adams on the bench saying, fuck you, motherfucker, cursing his teammate teammate out one of the greatest things you've ever seen yo the other night

Starting point is 02:37:09 he playing the pelican they got him trapped in the corner he stepped back and shot it we've never seen nothing like it that's fine lebron gonna have to deal with it i'm not saying he's gonna lose you like a fan but yall are going to have to deal with him. That. That ain't who I want to see. That ain't who I want to see. I won't even call him him. On the one game.

Starting point is 02:37:30 You just called him him. But he's that. It's like. He's not him. He's that. It's like a basketball disease. For real. From Davidson.

Starting point is 02:37:39 I don't want to see that. He's a UFO. Yeah. Yeah. He is. He don't got free will though. No, no. He got free range though. No, no, no, no. He got free range. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's a UFO. Yeah. Yeah. He don't got free will, though. No, no. He got free range, though.

Starting point is 02:37:46 No, no, no, no, no. He got free range. No, no, no, no, no, no. He got free range, though. He has free will on that basketball court. He does whatever he wants. Shoot on sight. He got it.

Starting point is 02:37:56 I'm asking you. He's changed the whole game. Y'all know how I feel about dudes. I'm a Steph Curry fanatic, bro. Don't talk to me about Steph Curry. I'm a Steph Curry fanatic. That's my light-skinned king. I'm a Steph Curry fanatic. That's Corey with AI shit then stop then stop I'm a LeBron guy too

Starting point is 02:38:10 LeBron got four rings I'm not a LeBron you're a Laker fan you're a LeBron fan by default indeed that's true so I'm rooting LeBron did not want all right let's talk from his point of view he didn't want Steph Curry in the shoot around in the playing he didn't want that and the Clippers I don't know how much validity there is to you guys tanking games to avoid the Lakers but if that's true y'all are nasty

Starting point is 02:38:37 heathens arrest them arrest Patrick Beverly for avoiding LeBron and the lakers i don't think they did and that's all i got look at that like how i'm happy for my knicks i support the knicks it's knicks tape all day long we in the playoffs fourth seed second time in the last 20 years wow i'm with this man i'm with this, man. I'm with this. You stayed? Yeah. I stayed. I mean, I wasn't so vocal in my Knicks tapeness the last few years.

Starting point is 02:39:11 But I see us winning the championship in the next 10 years. I'm laughing with him. 10? I don't see 10. Yeah, we got sleep in. Come on. Yeah, we got sleep in. All right, let me find him. I don't even know him. I don't see 10. Yeah, we got sleepers. Come on. We got sleepers. All right, let me find him.

Starting point is 02:39:25 I don't even know him. I don't even know who he is. He just laughed right in my face. He found it comical that you talked. I failed this stranger. I'm with him. He laughed right in my face about the Knicks. You know what, man?

Starting point is 02:39:39 I'm playing sleepers. I'm not doing this. I'm leaving. I don't have internet. I don't have to take this from strangers. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Microphone check.

Starting point is 02:39:57 One, two, one, two. Brand new old kindred family. Hey. Better yet kindrick the family soul Wrecking is called breaking Cut this off you good Do you know what it is Don't worry about it i got you when are they gonna stop being fired

Starting point is 02:40:35 they yo they've only been fired since i've been in high school they not supposed to still be built Yeah, oh It sound like 1500 of them is on it Oh Uh oh Uh oh You're not cool to me

Starting point is 02:40:59 You're not tough to me You're not measure sick of what street niggas listen to You're not measure sick of what street niggas listen to? Whoa! Alice, you never heard this. Just vibe with me. Vibow! Vibow!

Starting point is 02:41:25 Vibow! Ooh, baby, you can have it all night Just the way you like it Cause you know I like it Ooh, baby, you're the killer of my heart Mindful, ego, just in case you don't know What we got is life solid, ten toes down You can't move what's rooted in the ground Don't knock on the door when the love sounds You can shake it but I bet that you can't Can't break it down No you can't break it down baby, baby, baby Can't break it down No you can't, you can't break it, break it,

Starting point is 02:42:01 break me, come down baby Hey, I don't want no misconceptions or you to ever be confused I'm here to protect and serve you And I'm sure that I'd make the same decisions If I had it over to choose I need you to know you're still my top choice Preferred, oh Well, baby, mother of my babies I can't count the ways I love you But you drive me crazy

Starting point is 02:42:39 Let me break you off, let me build you up You know what it is, baby look at us What we got is rock solid, ten toes down You can't move what's rooted in the ground Don't knock on the door when the love sounds You can shake it but I bet that you can't And break it down Hey Oh yeah

Starting point is 02:43:09 Shout out to everybody out there with some internet, some wifi Stealing your neighbor's wifi I don't have any, I don't know what's going on out there Don't bother Don't even bother, I don't see it, I'm in bed Balled up Brand new old kindred, the family soul, that one is called Breaking Down That's my shit right there, that's the vibes, ayy

Starting point is 02:43:36 This is something from Mesa, this is Noticed, we've got Les and Sherry I really feel like I'm sliding like this beat is fun like I ain't really party I don't know what to say y'all Never really do no kickbacks like ayy y'all Draw my lil whip I was tryna pay off It was the best one for three stack like heya I been on the ground, I been tryna stay off Tryna make it to the league, tryna get my lil J off Niggas don't fuck with you till you get poppin'

Starting point is 02:44:11 They don't really watch till the end like the playoffs Lot of rap niggas made off like made off or ate off It never really helped, none of hers did the eight off Years of a life that these niggas like to take off When they drop song, they be leadin' niggas on Like they pullin' up a stick and they runnin' in the home They ain't even from the zone that they say they from Man, niggas think it ain't cap cause it's over drum I don't even think I'm be leadin' niggas on Like they pullin' up a stick and they runnin' in the home They ain't even from the zone that they city from, man Niggas think it ain't cap cause it's over drum

Starting point is 02:44:27 I don't even think I'm stuck makin' it with tongue Damn, what the hell you gon' write then? No more other Shyamalan M. Night then Maybe you can talk about fear and enlightenment Nah, that's triflin', life is a bitch It's a hey, big head text that I get from life then Tell me what you doin', baby, y'all that type then Pull up to your crib, I'ma stroke all night then

Starting point is 02:44:43 Bitein' on your neck like a tack on Titan, I hate them You see it's what you got Ain't no way I'm slowing down Yeah, it's just the way it sounds Ain't no way I'm changing down Just in case you didn't know this You see it's what you got Ain't no way I'm slowing down Yeah, it's just the way it sounds Ain't no way I'm changing now Just in case you didn't know this When you in this vibe, I'll replace the spark Nigga, how you so sure you gon' make a mark?

Starting point is 02:45:20 Shit, keep this shit all 100 I kinda think art keep my soul clear like Jason Mark I don't know, but my BMW placed in park Outside a new crib, that's an escrow It's a lot of shit, I don't know But I'm blessed, though While I got friends, prematurely put the rest, though Cause a chopper leave a can, you like Temesco Leave the details out, you get the gist, though

Starting point is 02:45:36 How they made it out, the cheese with pesto Bro, they manifested shit like Defno I done made it to leather with wood for the finishes Can't put too much on that, though, that diminishes I been the same ever since Sega Genesis Yo shit, a coupon It's more like a membership

Starting point is 02:45:48 You see, that's what you got Ain't no way I'm slowing down Yeah, it's just the way it sounds Ain't no way I'm changing down As noticed by Nascent, Mez, and Sharina Off his album, Minus the Bullshit Life is Great Check it out dope project

Starting point is 02:46:06 dope producer alright this is Trackstar Remix Mooski Chris Brown A Boogie and this just came out today so it's a sleeper but it's not a sleeper

Starting point is 02:46:21 come on Chris Brown we ready for a single, man. Single, 40-track album, let's get it. Hit the brakes, but when it's too late, she fast When she set a pace, she don't look back Now I know I look over the sign Girl, do you ever get tired? Oh, I She's a runner, she's a track star She gon' run away when it gets hard She can't take the pain, she can't get scarred She hurt anyone that gets involved

Starting point is 02:47:01 Don't wanna commit, why take it this far? She gon' do the race, just not this one Love is a game you used to cheer for When I was down to talk, you weren't here for She's a liar, she a capo She do anything for the black card She can feel your pain with a black heart Should've never let that shit get that far

Starting point is 02:47:21 It's always been games with you Keeping score and changing moves I was all for it, but lately you Show me that side, that crazy you And you can get the pack and all of your facts You can leave the racks with all of them tags Don't do your thing and don't look back Damn girl, you fast

Starting point is 02:47:40 She's a runner, she's a track star She gon' run away when it gets hard She can't take the pain She can't get score She hurt anyone That can see through That was a track star remix I was sleeping on that shit bro

Starting point is 02:47:52 Word Never heard that one I didn't see that one coming World premiere That was me Premiere Premiere Premiere

Starting point is 02:47:56 Ish what are you playing for us I know what you're playing for us But why don't you Why don't you Announce it You said what That's a sleeper you playing Yeah this is a sleeper.

Starting point is 02:48:06 Yeah. For the new dudes, yeah. But, you know, back in my day, it wasn't. It's still not my day. It's Rakim. Mahogany. Eric B. and Rakim. Listen to it, though.

Starting point is 02:48:20 I do that. Shut up, man. Me and Eric B was coolin' at the Palladium Seen a old world cover girl I said, hey lady, I'm sorry if you're in a rush Don't let me hold you up Or intervene, or interrupt But you got the look I wanna get to know you better I had to let her know

Starting point is 02:48:43 But yo, I didn't sweat up Cause cause if you would've seen what I was saying Almost look Korean, but you're European When she spoke, her accent was self-explanatory Even her body language told a story Her name was Mahogany, twins name was Ebony I said my name is Rock, and this is Eric B Since the music was loud loud I said let's take a walk So we could talk and see New York

Starting point is 02:49:08 Show time didn't start until one o'clock But once I entered your mind I wouldn't wanna stop Caress your thoughts till we was thinking the same Calm your nerves, massage your brain Each moment's a mineral, poetry, protein Versus the vitamin effects like codeine Then tell me how you feel when I reveal A pill that'll heal your pain Cause I'm real, she must've OD'd Cause she couldn't resist

Starting point is 02:49:33 She spoke slowly when she told me this She said, over me, I'm going crazy She rubbed me on my chest and called me Mr. Sexy She said she want my kids and help me make my next G Tell me I ain't finesse mahogany So I prescribed her something to revive the surprises She's livin' and much more wiser than the light I shine When her brain cells spark constantly so she can glow in the dark

Starting point is 02:50:00 Then soon you can represent the moon As long as I keep you in tune I'll tell you who you are and why you're here Take it in stride cause it might take a year It's funny how time flies when you're having fun We got close and it was almost one She kissed me slow but you know how far a kiss can go Fuck around and miss the show So I told her to whole lap thought real tight we could finish what we left off later on tonight back to the scene of the crime on time as they introduced the fiend of a rhyme

Starting point is 02:50:34 she stood in the crowd with her bird's eye view of me thinking of later on of what she could do to me the back of the room I could see her eyes gloom patient but hoping that the show was over soon As her place was ripped in half She made her way to the front row So I said let's go I packed my mic as they screamed for an encore

Starting point is 02:50:54 The speakers was blown plus my mic was sore But son I got places to go ladies to see And she could tell me how crazy she was over me We drove off she said she liked the way that I performed And couldn't wait to get soft and warm I said, I was watching you, watching me Looks I received made it hard to emcee I could take a hit so I knew that she

Starting point is 02:51:17 Wanted my agony, agony, agony in her body Showed her some sights, then I took her to the condo She was piping hot but I kept my calm So she asked how come I don't smile I said everything's fine, but I'm in a New York state of mind As we reached the kingdom, she said bring some champagne She'll entertain, then sing some sentimental songs Real gentle, it hit the spot and you know where it went to

Starting point is 02:51:43 As we embraced embraced I felt the heart pumping I knew she was in the mood for something so I laid on my back and relaxed it wasn't a peri-yarn that made her collapse over me she was going crazy she rubbed me on my chest and called me Mr. Sexy she said she want my kids and help me make my next G tell me I ain't finesse mahogany 50, man. That's a classic record. Ice played Trackstar. Remix.

Starting point is 02:52:29 They're fired. They're fired. Y'all are fired. Both of y'all. Y'all don't even work here. Bitch, you can't play one of the records that hip-hop was founded on as a sleeper.

Starting point is 02:52:47 Nah, just... I know you're 70 years old, man. Hold up, Cole, you about to make Cole mad. Back on top, punch in the clock, clutch insanity. I got low cribs, the habitat for you. You know. This guy's nuts. I'm entertained by rap in a different way than other people are.

Starting point is 02:53:08 Fam. Wait, look. What does that mean? It ain't nothing I want more. Let me tell you what it means, Ish. Let me turn it down some. It ain't nothing I want more. First of all, and bring this back.

Starting point is 02:53:19 Pretend you're a rapper right now, Ish. It ain't nothing I want more. Nigga sent you this beat. It's the best beat you've gotten in months. This is the best beat you've heard in a year. I'm bringing it back. You're a rapper. This is the best beat you've gotten in a year.

Starting point is 02:53:33 You're trying to put it together. This beat is making you want to kill something. You need dramatic effect before you come on. Here we go. I need a voice. I need somebody. Let me put it there. Somebody's talking.

Starting point is 02:53:44 Who is this? I don't know. What I'm telling you is, as a rapper, when that occurs, monstrosity is about to take place. Somebody's not about to play with you. And as a rapper, your first and last line in the verse is always the most important. It's going to tell you what time it is. It's like a watch. Okay.

Starting point is 02:54:08 So you can put the voice there. Where's his head at with this beat and this? Uh-oh, ad-libs. Uh-oh. Wait a minute. He dropped the beat out. He didn't say a word yet-ish. I'm putting you in rapper mind.

Starting point is 02:54:24 He dropped the beat out before his't say a word yet ish i'm putting you in rapper mind he dropped the beat out before his words came on don't worry about it and that is the beauty of when you're a rapper listening to rap back on top, punch in the clock, like, yo, it's on for you niggas now. I don't know if anybody else hears that like that, but the next song, the song right after this, the song right after this

Starting point is 02:54:53 is a hundred mil. Rappers are gonna hear that. Like, the way you just broke that down, I'd have never took that from you. Shut up. Beat stop.

Starting point is 02:55:01 Let's go. Back on top, punch in the clock, punch in sanity. I got more cribs to habitat for humanity. Shit profound, we propagate more profanity. Paid our collections for recollections of calamity. Yo, he is bugging, man.

Starting point is 02:55:13 Yo, Cole, chill out. Look, yo, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's another reason. If you a rapper-ish, your first bar is your most powerful bar. Your second bar, you bought something already. He bought a coupe. He bought something. In the fifth bar, he already telling you about niggas.

Starting point is 02:55:32 It's after I'm trying. I'm flipping money over here. The recollections of calamity. Yo, you're not hearing what he's. This is rapper shit. I'm going to let it go after this. I'm going to leave it alone. Talk to him.

Starting point is 02:55:43 I got more cribs to have a death for you. I'ma leave it alone. Talk to him. Let's listen up. Cribs. He went right to his crib. It's profound. What the crew doing? We had to pay debts. It popped off. It was rough.

Starting point is 02:55:58 Then it cooled off. And at the eighth bar, any rapper that's dope on this beat will say to himself, I got to tell a story. It's a fact. I'm telling you something. I'm telling you something. If you lyrical miracle guy at the eighth bar, when you address whatever you said, I want to tell a story right now. Ish. This has nothing to do with nothing. When I was a boy, the teacher, it don't mean nothing.

Starting point is 02:56:28 I busted the trees, was barely strong enough to sweep. Look, I was a villain when I was a kid. I killed somebody. Look, he's still telling stories. Nightmare scenes, the police finally apprehended. He's having nightmares. Woke up screaming, seen a demon had his hand on me. Still smart to scar my arm for Wade Brandon.

Starting point is 02:56:38 And when you do all that and end with, yo, the demons had a hand on me, fam, you know, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. had his hand on me still smart to scar my arm from Wade Brennan and when you do all that and end with

Starting point is 02:56:46 yo the demons had a hand on me fam leave this nigga alone I'm sorry

Starting point is 02:56:54 he's clearly fed up I'm sorry I thought J. Cole was coming out to talk about another virgin he had slept with

Starting point is 02:57:02 when he was a virgin whatever he was doing on Forest Hill Drive I when he was a virgin. Whatever he was doing on Forest Hill Drive. I thought he was coming out to do some light skin, nigga. Shit, we light skin, man. We know how to go. No, not this. That nigga said we ending this podcast.

Starting point is 02:57:15 Yo. Yeah. Yes, sir. Ain't nothing I want more. Ain't nothing I want more. Ain't nothing I want more. You know you. Yeah, man. Thank y'all for listening.

Starting point is 02:57:25 Thank y'all for listening. Don't waste my time. know you. Yeah, man. Thank y'all for listening. Thank y'all for listening. Don't even waste my time. Don't even waste my time. Thank y'all for listening. Dreamville, we love you. He stepped off the porch first. Don't come out saying two-fifths before you start rhyming. You know what I'm here for.

Starting point is 02:57:41 It ain't nothing I want more. J. Cole is on, man. Don't tell me what I can and cannot do. I don't work for when I'm first in line So I ain't gonna get rid of it I ain't got drugs when I'm first in line I ain't got drugs when I'm first in line It ain't nothin' I want It ain't nothin' I want

Starting point is 02:57:57 Back on top, punchin' the clock, clutchin' Santa I got more cribs to have a path for me Yo, keep me in your prayers Lord knows I need to be there Until the next time I bid you a due. Farewell. Hasta la vista. Adios. Arrivederci.

Starting point is 02:58:10 So long. Goodbye. Hey. Normally when the story pops up, it'll be somebody getting their chain snatched. When you great. Honestly, I'm telling you to train of thought.

Starting point is 02:58:27 Keep me in your prayers. Lord knows I need to be there. Let me turn the beat off on these niggas so they know I'm for real. You heard? Until the next time, I bid you adieu.

Starting point is 02:58:38 Farewell. Hasta la vista. Arrivederci. So long. Goodbye. Deuces. Do remember, make women

Starting point is 02:58:45 especially people but women especially comfortable at all times super important out there hit the air horn

Starting point is 02:58:53 on these niggas remember life is a series of moments and moments past so let's make this one last as if it's all that we have

Starting point is 02:59:02 and certainly last before it leaves do remember the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab an ibuprofen.

Starting point is 02:59:13 Enjoy your headache. We the fuck out of here. Peace. Ay. And it's still cold day on these niggas. It's nothing I want more. All I'm going to do is get to work. Whoa. And it's still cold day on these niggas. There's nothing I want more. All I'ma do is get to work.

Starting point is 02:59:28 I came here. They gave us a chance to get in like we asked for. And that's what we're here to do. Job still ain't done, but I'll see you. N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-

The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 439 | "The Internet"

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