The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 445 | "I'm Rapped Out" (feat. Chris Hansen)

Episode Date: June 9, 2021

On this episode: Joe & the guys discuss the Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul fight (22:05) and how commentators are changing the listening experience during sporting events (42:30). New music is on the way from Snoh Aalegra, Diddy, Megan Thee Stallion, and the Migos (54:15), and the JBP speaks to the Mount Rushmore of Hip-Hop Media (1:17:50) as well as an update on an incident involving Pooh Shiesty  (1:31:40). The guys are joined by journalist & personality, Chris Hansen (1:49:50) to discuss his podcast "Predators I've Caught With Chris Hansen", and whether Chris internalizes his work. They address the obsession with crime documentaries and shows, the infamous pizza gate conspiracy, Jeffrey Epstein, and MORE!   To access Chris Hansen's podcast, click the hyperlink attached: Predators I've Caught With Chris Hansen   For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden       Sleeper Picks Joe | Rachelle Ferrell - “Nothing Has Ever Felt Like This” (Ft. Will Downing) Parks | Sha Money - “Please” (Ft. Warren Wint & Rain)    Ice | Joella - “Pick It Up”   Ish | MC Eiht - “Straight Up Menace”

Yo you ain't got no Siri for real On your phone Who you talk to Y'all got a Siri Come on what's y'all What's it called Robot Is it dude or a chick

What is it called I don't know what it's called It's probably a kid or some shit Why are you asking me I don't know shit What's the Android Siri ish Fam Anyway

What's the name of it Yeah but you he won't even tell us that's fucked up that's what you gonna do you gonna blow on the mic false nah nah

but they do have a Siri they have to have a Siri everybody has a Siri alright oh he don't know the pop star we started he still just thinks he's communicating

with his hazel eyes. Niggas with hazel eyes think they can just look at you. He's just going to squint his way through this conversation. He think he can squint his way through life. Life is real. Yo, what are you talking about? Life is real, son. So stupid, yo.

You know what's funny? Squint your way through life. Listen to my stupid ass. I've never used Siri just because I'm old and washed and dumb. Me too. I don't trust her. But all of the young girls, I- I don't trust Siri for nothing.

She's shady, man. Siri is shit. That's like a dishwasher. I walk in the house and be like, hey Siri, turn the air conditioner on. I fuck with it too now, but I don't use it. I don't really trust it all the way. It took me a long time to start trusting a refrigerator. Now listen, the younger women that I have.

It took you a long time to trust a refrigerator. You had an icebox. What are you talking about? I think if my mom had, like, if she remembered some of this stuff from my channel. Like, I swear she had a long talk with me where I was trying to investigate the fridge. What? The fridge?

What's wrong with you, y'all? Well, how is it just keeping things cold? It's called electricity. Same way Erica does. Freon, nigga. Oh, yeah? I'm talking about when I was a fucking child, first of all. I love y'all.

I was seven or something. What are y'all i was seven or something what are y'all talking it's free on oh it's plugged in yeah we knew that at seven don't worry about it don't worry about it don't worry about it don't worry about it next back to syria yeah yeah uh the younger women that i've seen in the last however many years, first of all, they know how to do tricks with their phone that we can't do. Like, they work Instagram differently, right? So these younger women, damn, what the fuck? Oh, Siri. When they press the Siri button, I don't even know how to press the Siri button, but when they press it, Siri is efficient.

Siri get whatever they looking for, them and my mom. Your mom uses Siri? Yeah. My daughter uses Siri. Easily, too. My parents don't know how to do that. My daughter's five. She asks Siri shit.

As soon as I ask Siri something, she ain't hearing me right. She giving me the wrong stat. Rolling her eyes. Yeah, I'm double pressing all stupid. Yeah, yeah. Now. It's voice activated. You do know that, though.

You don't have to press a button. You can just say it. I was about to say, it's a Siri that, though. You don't have to press a button. You could just say. I was about to say, it's a Siri button. Siri. No, you have to say, hey. See, look, she don't even love him. Hey, Siri. Oh.

Yo, look at his face. She said, hmm? Hmm? Hey, Siri. Hey, Siri. Hey, Siri. If she say what, nigga, I'm going to be dying. Yeah, she don't fuck with you. She trying to hit me, this nigga.

Yeah, he talking. Dumbass nigga keep talking. Look, look, look. I'm going to give you a quick instruction on that. You don't have to wait. You say, hey. Hey, Siri. And then ask your question.

Yo, can I talk the fuck? Hey, Siri. What's good with you? I'm not sure I understand. Alright, bitch. That's because you don't know how to talk to women. You don't know how to talk to women. That's why. That's what it is.

Another example. Another example. What is wrong with you? Oh, man. Alright, hold up. Let's see here. What is happening? No, no, no, All right. Hold up. Let's see here. What is happening? No, no, no, no. That's not what we're doing.

That sounded like a vibe. That's a better vibe. This is vibe here. It's big vibes. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah when I was a little... Why? Eh. That's all it took. I'm scared to shit out.

First of all, if you listen to MC Hammer rap over this, you would listen to Joe rap over this. I think this is Prey, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe.

Come on. I don't know nothing about no MC Hammer. All right. Hold up alright hold up hold up now you gotta go find the record

yeah what you gonna play turn his mother out no pray MC Hammer pray of course I don't think it ain't in your iTunes

you ain't me I'll find it for you bro I don't have it I'll find it I don't have it but I purchased that that was on Please Hammer

don't hurt him I think no and I don't want to start with that. I don't think that was on there. Well, now I'm right after it, God damn it. I don't want no B-Flamers hammer, by the way.

Just. Yeah. This is when doves cry, no? Yeah. And I think the chords come in at some point, too. Yeah, at the end. It's true.

All right. You heard when do Dev's crying that song right there? Yeah We're musicians I was about to say You was about to say I don't got luxury ears That's not even luxury That's not luxury ears Mic check, mic check, mic check, mic check, mic check

Shout out to, in my opinion The greatest musician to ever live And it ain't but so many of those people in the car So many of those people in that conversation, by the way Stevie Wonder Somebody else, I'm sure, James Brown, maybe But this is him Happy birthday to Kanye West as well

I'm here to get flowers out, man You know what I mean? I like it Rest in peace, Clarence Williams III The dad in Purple Rain, by the way I love you One thousand percent The dad in Purple Rain, by the way. Love you. 1,000%. Anytime he came on in the movie, I got scared shitless.

For real. Didn't have to be that kind of movie. We out here. Happy Wednesday, Thursday, whatever day it is, wherever you at. Let's go. I just need standing. Alone in a world that's so cold. Maybe I'm just too demanding Got a lot of shit to get to today, thank God

Maybe I'm just like my father Hope everybody had a good weekend Too old, maybe you're just like my mother She's never satisfied Why do we scream at each other? This is what it sounds like When the doves There we go, there we go

Let me just get my vibe High frequencies, high vibrations Only Only Not really doing the low vibrations right now Mic check, one, two, one, two Jersey City, what's up? We still here.

Shout out wherever you may listen or wherever you may be listening from all over the world. Single lady, lady. We here, man. Hey. This is what you need somebody to rap to. Huh? Somebody go over can always rap to this.

Look, did you? Hey! Get out, did you in the car right now? Let's go. Oh, yeah. The bar's ready, guys. Yeah, no, I'm just glad he did. Shit out, Dave.

Hey! Yo, what is I saying? I was talking to Parks. I said, I don't glad he did. Shout out Dave. Ay. Yo, what did I say? I was talking to Parks. I said, I don't want you rapping. Oh. You ain't got no cow. No cow. OK.

Now you ain't got me a bucket. The ladder's got that power. What is this? Life. Life. Life. Life. Life.

Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life.

Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. Life. All right. What was the vibe of this drop? Was it like the streets? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no to episode 445 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden. Here with a few really good guys.

Brother Ish is here with us. Brother Parks is here. Brother Ice is here. Corey is here. And I'm sure there's some people in the back room that I can't even see. Thank God they're back there. Shout out to all you guys in the back room now in our new space that I don't have to see. Not because I don't enjoy looking at you guys, but y'all always look cluttered up.

Yeah, yeah. Cluttered in the corner. There's a jumble at the bottom of the stairs before. Y'all knees was touching before. Yeah, yeah. And that always makes me uncomfortable when I see men's knees touching. Facts. It's true.

Hopefully everybody is feeling good. Unfortunately, I have to start with some bad news for our audience. Our audience that has gone through so much change with us recently. Unfortunately, we have some more change coming your way. Ice will no longer be here in probably three weeks. I know a lot of y'all have gotten unaccustomed to him being here. Some of you really love his presence, but unfortunately,

due to rules and restrictions at Foot Action, Yeah, it's rough over there. and outside opening back up, People need shoes. People need their sneakers. Now, that doesn't come as a surprise to me. I knew the writing was on the wall, ladies and gentlemen,

at least about a month ago. I didn't want to tell him, Ish. But when he came in and said, no, dog, I'm good. I'm good for two days a week. I spoke to the supervisor. He said, Tuesdays and Fridays, I can do whatever I want. I wanted to the supervisor. He said Tuesdays and Fridays I can do whatever I want.

I wanted to say. Yeah, I know. I hear you, tough guy. So what do you know? This thing is stupid. He's way to the New Jordan's drop. You want to be right back in there? So, yeah, man.

What's the options? No, no, no. We good because foot action is being shut down anyway. So once that happens.. What's the auctions or does it? No, no, no. We good because Foot Action's being shut down anyway. Oh. So once that happens... They gonna move you to Foot Locker.

No, no, no. I'm not taking that. Oh. They gotta buy me out. They gotta buy you. Yeah, I'm cool with that. They gotta buy you out. Yeah, they gotta buy me out.

I don't want the stripes. I'm not rocking the stripes. I hear you. I feel you, though. I'm with you. And we good. You sure, man? I'm sure, man.

We good. All right. These guys are idiotic. are now just in case we're not i have to hold auditions so if you want to be a podcaster and if you think you have what it takes i don't even know who you call who do you call call somebody. And I imagine that that's what a lot of people are going through, though. Having to walk the line between a hobby or a passion that might be paying or has been paying versus, hey, we going back to work now. Now we back at work. I was saying earlier, if I'm an employee somewhere and I've been off for the last year and I've made six figures in crypto, I don't know if I'm just going to work for somebody to tell me when I can go to lunch again. I'm hungry now.

And I'm going to eat now. You just got here. I know. I know. And I was late. And I was late. I'll pay you back just got here. I know. I know. And I was late. And I was late. I'll pay you back for that hour. Don't worry about it.

And I'm going to eat it now in front of you. And I might eat again. And don't let it be a little clothes store. And I'm going to use a little shirt as a napkin. Get this ketchup off my fucking... We're a mess. But that's what I imagine is happening out there. So I'm just going to appreciate you for as long as we have you.

Life is a series of moments. Bro, we good. And moments. We good. You could be a moment. Not a moment, man. How's everybody doing, man? Ice is in the union, Gangsta.

He's good. Yeah, we got a union. I know. He told me that the Roadsters was so tough. The Roadsters. He told me. He told me. It was the Roadsters was so tough. The Roadsters? What did he tell me? He told me that just two weeks ago, he was popping big shit about his union.

No, no, no. We the biggest foot action union there is. The Hamsters. They know not to fuck with the Hamsters. Any problem in my job, I call a head hamster up. He fix it. I was like, damn, why the rappers just can't be the Hamsters? And sure enough,

next week he fired. I'm not fired. Hey, not only is he fired, ain't a hamster in New Jersey, New York, the whole tri-state area.

We ain't seen a hamster. Yeah. Yo. He's got a point. All the hamsters is gone. Where the fuck did you pull hamsters from? The roadsters,

the fucking drag racers. I don'tsters, the fucking drag racers. I don't know what the fucking little teams name. What's the name of your union? The Ishtars. We don't do that. Don't say that because his people might unionize him. No, exactly.

We don't want that. Nigga, I'm the boss. I don't want no union. Like my people did. Parks, what you going to do if in 10 years now you got a whole mixing crew, the mixologist, that's already a crew. Think of a name for y'all.

The grand, the premier mixers. And what? What happens? Do they want to unionize? And all your mixers want to unionize. I support it. No, they unionizing against you. Yeah, you say that now, man.

Yeah, that's cool. Oh, he look angry already. He look mad just at the idea of that. I mean, that's part of the reason why I never had employees, though. Why? I'm fucking terrified. Why? Because.

No, I'm terrified too now. No, honestly. Well, you know I'm terrified. Why though. Why? Because. No, I'm terrified too now. No, honestly. Well, you know I'm terrified. Why though? Why? Because. I can't even answer on air. That's why you're terrified?

That's how shook you are? I would love that. I talk for a living and can't talk. Yeah. Seriously. Y'all won't silence me. Yes, they will. No, they won't.

They've done it. I've been won't silence me. Yes, they will. No, they won't. They've done it. I've been silent for a decade. They swear I'm so unfiltered. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. That's an interesting conversation y'all bumped into. And then we'll get into the fight.

Well, it's scary. We deal with a lot of confidential data. I don't know if I can trust anybody. Oh, that's true. Yeah. And then let them unionize with the data that they have access to. That's a scary thing, too.

They use that as leverage. But no, you got all types of contracts and shit that would prevent them from. All types of people that are breaking the contract. Prove it. Prove it. What if they took the data to LeBron James? Yeah. LeBron don't care about your contract, bro.

How much this cost? All right. No, now LeBron's at A&R. So now he got all his mixes. All the stands. His parks mixes. Stupid, yo. He got the songs.

Oh, nobody want to talk? All right, let's keep it going. Floyd Mayweather. How y'all doing? At least tell us that. No, I'm good. I'm great, man. Had a nice weekend.

It was hot as shit. My girl was on a girl's trip. Oh, lucky. Oh, congratulations, man. Lucky. A round of applause. A king. You my girl was on a girl's trip oh lucky congratulations lucky round of applause a king

you said she was a king yes her best friend hung out down there oh yeah congratulations did you even care where her best friend lived

she could have been in Hong Kong go go I have a best friend on Jupiter bye you should go see her be safe be safe you need some money be safe yes go Go I have a best friend on Jupiter Bye You should go see her

Be safe Be safe You need some money Be safe Yes go please Congratulations man Chilled in the backyard the whole time Nothing changed really

Yeah I'm sure Yeah You was in the backyard by yourself Yes Peace and quiet bro And if you got a great girl, you might luck up, and she get caught up on the trip with a girl, so she don't call you or your wife, speak a whole bunch.

You don't even hear from her. So then when she call, she got a little bit of guilt. Like, oh, baby, I'm so sorry. Now you get to act like you wasn't having the time of your life. Oh, no, baby, that's OK. No, that's fine. I'm sure you're just having a blast with your girl. No, I was on FaceTime duty the entire time, life. Oh, no, baby. That's okay. No, that's fine. I'm sure you're just having a blast with your girl. Nah, I was on FaceTime duty the entire time, so.

Why do people FaceTime from the club? She FaceTimed you from the club? Correct. But her whole friend circle seems to do that. And I just never really understand the concept. Because, like, we can't talk. It's too loud. But we can see, though. I'm just showing you I i'm not you don't get the concept we can see fair enough and she can see bow wow was on facetime in starlets last night

with some nigga i'm standing back behind nigga all staring at me. I said, man, let me go home. Wait, the dude on Bow Wow's phone was looking at you the whole time he said that? He's stupid. Yo, let me tell you why I don't go outside. I don't go outside. And I have no business outside. And then we're going to start this podcast. My third time in Starlets. I'm going to my same little corner to grab a chair and just sit in the corner.

Get your food. And do nothing. But apparently, the chairs are big business in the strip club now. Yeah. They're valuable. Them chairs are going for a thousand a pop. God. Hey, you can't just come sit down.

Damn. That's light work for you. It cost you money to sit down. That's light work for you. That's light work for you. Not now that I'm bankrupt. And I love all the think pieces about me being bankrupt. Continue to write them. Spread them.

Send them to TMZ, TSR, Team Shade Room. Send them everywhere. Team Shade Room. There's a Team Shade Room that they keep putting on my Explorer page with these fucking muscle bound niggas for some reason. Every shredded. All right. Where was I at?

Oh, so the chairs is big business. I go grab a chair. I got my mask on. Now I got to have the uncomfortable conversation. They like, yo, dupe. They talking to me

like I ain't Joe Budden because they don't know. Yo, dupe, fuck off the chair. You can't grab a chair. You got to buy a bottle. How many bottles? I pull the mask down.

They play the game. Still don't know who the fuck you is. Get the fuck out of here. Somebody just lost their job over chairs you can't get no fucking chair wait they got new bouncers used to be someone's about to say yeah some of them some of them are new and even the ones that are not we fired somebody over a chair we need authorization on the chairs got it they're expensive chairs sure i go out to the front to look for my guy marty mar to tell

him hey man come tell his fucking fuckity fuck in the back of course not not in those words hey come tell dude i need a chair right of course when i go outside to find marty mar who's there you guessed it bow wow bow wow coming in with an entourage i say i'm by myself oh shit i say to marty yo man just tell dude give me a chair. Say it over the walkie-talkie or something. Last thing I want to do is walk in here with Bow Wow and his entourage. Because they're going to buy all the chairs, first of all. Hey, so sure enough, Marty didn't do that at all. Marty didn't do that at all. So I walk right in with Bow Wow and the entourage.

Now I look like I'm in Bow Wow's entourage. And you are. Yeah, I was going to say you were. I am until I power walk. Oh, you got a little distance? You put a little gap between you. Yo, you stupid. Hey, I power walk with the best of them.

I'm from New Jersey, mall capital of the world. We get to power walking. Okay. Right? I didn't know that about you. I hit the power walk beat beat him to the corner now i'm in the corner with a chair by myself guess where marty's bringing bow wow on this you guessed it right to that back bar in the corner so now i'm hiding back there with the mask on but i'm in plain view of bow wow's facetime buddy i don't know if you like

pump it up but i had to get out of here I left I left and none of that really happened because of course none of that happened I was sleeping at 9pm that was all a dream

pass him some grass just Bow Wow sung the song instead of Biggie that was you got it that was all a dream it's hilarious

that's stupid that's the shit oh that little rush you get when you told somebody You got it Yo that was all a dream It's hilarious God stupid Yo that's the shit Oh that little rush you get When you told somebody You sleep But you really Awake You get a rush

You get a rush Not you right I don't Pardon self Pardon self Pardon self Go to floor What you get your rushes off

Drywall Alright so listen Let's get right to it The new format of this pod Pardon self. Go to floor. What you get your rushes off? Drywall. All right. So listen, let's get right to it. The new format of this pod is not even asking how your co-hosts are doing mental health. Everyone's going to lie to you. Yeah, yeah. No.

Trust me. I'm scarred and jaded for that. No. Don't care how you're doing. Let's get right started. Shout out to the Patronis. Subscribe for the vibes. You already know what time it is. I'm going right to the fight. Sunday night. the Patronies. Subscribe for the vibes. You already know what time it is.

I'm going right to the fight. Sunday night. Let's do it. Right to the fight. Sunday night. I wish it would have been Saturday. I want to start there. Yeah, me too.

I could have used this on Saturday night. Sunday was still cool. Wasn't there another? There was an event Saturday night, a UFC event, I think. I don't care. You'd rather watch that? Yeah.

I'm not a big UFC fan. Self-centered consumer is what they call that. Sure. Okay. I'll be that. You don't care? I'm fine with being self-centered consumer. Okay. And?

If I'm paying, I'm supposed to be getting what I want. Correct. Supposed to be a self-centered consumer. Okay. I mean, if that's how you see the world. If that's how you see it. You got different eyes? I have a different take on that.

Okay. I'm not arguing with you that early in the podcast. I don't want to fight. We didn't even introduce these two dudes and me and you going at it. Floyd and Logan Paul

fought Friday night, I mean Sunday night, along with Chad versus Homeboy. I don't know. Oh, Jared Hurd fought. That was a good fight. The undercards were actually

pretty good. Well, the second one. Here we go. Badu Jack versus Dervin Kalina. Louis Arias defeated Jared Hurd. Chad Johnson versus

Brian Maxwell. Ended in a draw. Oh, okay. Well, I went upstairs to change the diaper at that point. Yeah, I came late to that one. It was exhibition.

Yeah. Childhood. So there's no winner. Childhood. Oh, okay. All right. So let's just run it down. Let's go.

Let's start. Chad Johnson. I missed that one. He didn't look bad. He didn't look bad. I was actually kind of shocked. I only saw the viral clip of him getting knocked down, but he got right back up. Yeah.

No, he looked actually like back up. He looked actually like a boxer. Footwork was alright. Stance was alright. Could have held that left hand a little higher. I mean, Chad is how old? 44? 43? He's an athlete.

He's an athlete. I thought he looked alright too. Even with the knockdown. If you're in a fight, you're going to maybe fall. That's fine. He got right back up. Clearly had a lot of respect for the gentleman he was fighting. I guess they know each other. Oh, okay.

He's 43. 43 years old. Listen, this was a four-round fight. If you're 44 years old and you can go for four rounds, I think these were four-minute rounds? Three-minute rounds? Three minutes, but still. That's still a lot. I don't care. 12 minutes of fighting's a long time to fight. And you can go for four rounds. I think these were four-minute rounds? Three-minute rounds. Three minutes, but still. That's still a lot.

I don't care. That's a lot. 12 minutes of fighting is a long time. That's a lot, bro. That is a really long time. Especially if you've never done it. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Like, this ain't your thing. That's why I respect them for following the team. Yeah. Fam, to get in shape to box is a different level of fitness. Fitness, yeah. It is. Like, seriously. Fighting is a different kind of exhaustion because Fitness, yeah. It is. Like, seriously. Fighting is a different kind of exhaustion because you get the adrenaline pump, too.

Bro, grown men be fighting at a 150 weight class. That's how lean your body be. Right. Chad's body look good. Like you said, he's an athlete, so he look like he could have won a couple more rounds. In every speech I heard him give after, he just talked about pursuing your dreams no matter what challenges exist, no matter what people may say.

That was the theme of the night, I think, kind of. We can get to it. Sure. We can get to that. But had all his homies there, everybody from our- In support. Everybody was there supporting him.

Yeah. Brandon Marshall, the whole squad, whole podcast squad was there. Almost yeah Brandon Marshall the whole squad whole podcast squad was there almost brought a tear to my eye it was just really inspirational

watching him do that we would come watch you fight no I'm not gonna fight we would come watch Ice fight Ice not fight

last fight I was in around some people that I know I was like why are they watching help don't you see me fighting I was in around some people that I know. I was like, well, why are they watching? Help.

Don't you see me fighting? Any day these dudes want to come out of there. I thought everybody was fighting. Yeah, when they decided to come out the hookah spot. Oh, I thought it was something different. No, they was inside still. I had to dance around a little bit. Around five niggiggas niggas could have duffed your face off they was trying to but steinway's big has a rule yeah my back wasn't about to be to a wall anyway listen man

super big you gotta know your surroundings. Shout out to Chad Johnson. Shout out to Brian Maxwell. The next fight, I was talking a whole bunch of shit because I followed Jared Hurt on Instagram and I partied with him at the strip club in D.C. That's my man, friend of the show. Shout out to him. That was a really good fight.

I was surprised to see Jared Hurt on this card. Why? Because he's a fighter. I don't understand. Did the undercard... I think the undercards counted, though. Two of them. Yeah, two of them.

Yeah. The Chad Johnson fight. They weren't all exhibitions. It was an exhibition, and the Floyd fight was an exhibition. The other two were actual fights. Now you're just telling me about the boxing Nevada rules and... This whole shit was exhibition to me.

This whole shit was exhibition. Listen, let's get right to it. Floyd and Logan, Jake, one of them. Logan Paul. Floyd and Logan Paul. Now, Ice was doing a lot of colonizer worshipping. No, man. I just said... And then Ish got in the car and was doing a lot of colonizer worshiping. No, man.

I just said. And then Ish got in the car and was doing a lot of white worshiping. Me? Yeah. You said his body looked amazing, Logan Paul. You said, wow. White worship? Yes.

You liked his chest? Yeah. Come on, y'all about to spin it. Why? You sitting right here. Say what you said. Corey said that, yo, my man. Say what you said.

I'm about to. I got to give the concept the audience don't know Corey ain't got a mic we ain't thinking nothing about Corey no they know Corey anyway

Corey was like yo you know I've been trying to lose weight so Corey's like yo imagine nigga Jake Paul was 200 pounds

and I was like and that nigga's body looked amazing at 200 pounds that's not that was a real long way of saying that you like the kid's body no I wanted to put it in context cause you That's not worshiping. That was a real long way of saying that you like the kid's body.

No, I wanted to put it in context because you said I was worshiping the colonizers. Or a colonizer's body. I was complimenting him. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Listen, what did you think of the fight? What did y'all think of the fight? Everything.

Give me all thoughts the fight. I actually liked it. Great. Come on, stop grabbing me. Yo, I think Floyd could have knocked him out in a couple more rounds. me all thoughts the fight i actually liked it great come on stop grabbing me yo uh i think floyd could have knocked him out in a couple more rounds i think knocked him out mad i think i think floyd did underestimate that this motherfucker weighs 200 pounds and he's way taller than me yeah so that lean in after a while definitely took its toll but floyd was beating him

up to the body yo i never seen him there There was mad times where Floyd could have been catching him when they were wrapped up and just didn't. Clearly, Floyd wanted to extend this fight. Yeah, and that's what I was saying. Logan Paul said that in his interview at the end. He's like, did I last eight rounds with him or did he let me last eight rounds with him? He let him.

And that's what it looked like. It looks like he let him. Let's start with how did Logan Paul get this fight? How did Logan Paul end up in the ring with arguably the greatest boxer of all time? Arguably. Almost inarguably. Yeah. Well, some people might argue.

But how did Logan Paul, Jake Paul's brother, end up in the ring with an undefeated technician? Because like Floyd said. Someone. Floyd said, yeah, money. Like he said, I could take a fight against somebody else and only make $50 million. You think Logan Paul is the first great white boy?

You think he's the first white boy that attracts a big billing? Is that what you're telling me? No. Okay, so answer my question. How did Logan Paul end up in the ring with him? Still money. It's still money. What else then?

What else then? Since still money. I know where you're going. I know where you're going too, but I disagree. I don't know if I subscribe to where you're going. It's money. It's money. But no, because they could have found a bigger bag with somebody else.

What are y'all talking about? Anybody. Well, he's actually trying to become a boxer. He could afford an NFL guy. He could afford another MMAfl guy he could afford another mma guy he could afford a fucking basketball have his following okay so y'all just gonna he could afford nate robinson ice they don't have nate robinson don't have this guy's following his following was worth that's what was his following was worth 10 of the pay-per-view

stream so don't so don't following me to death but that's what he's using don't following me to death it was worth 10 of pay-per-view stream. Who was his following? He had a good following. He doesn't have a following. You're not saying he had a following prior to his brother fighting Nate? Yeah, they're YouTubers. They have a big following on YouTube.

They have a big YouTube following. And they were on Disney TV at one point. Disney Channel. Baby Shark has a big YouTube following, too. I don't see Floyd rushing to YouTube following too. I don't see Floyd rushing to fight the animation. Are we just going to

ignore the elephant in the room? We could have discourse about this. Again, I don't know if it... You're saying it predicated on him being Caucasian. I'm saying that a popular YouTuber fought a man

who has boxing in his blood and his lineage and had to train and do all types of shit to get to where he is, to be 50 and 0. He's retired.

He made whatever money he made. And now in an exhibition, there was a dollar to be made from fighting a YouTuber. The YouTuber. And all y'all have to say is, hey, go get your YouTube up, you guys. It could be you one day. Is that what y'all have to say is, hey. And you're saying. Hey, go get your YouTube up, you guys.

It could be you one day. Is that what y'all are saying? Don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah, that is what I'm saying, Joe. That's what I'm saying. Yes. What is your hypothesis?

I know what you're saying, but go ahead. I want to hear you say it. I don't have a hypothesis. This is white privilege. I don't even. How do you spell this if it's not white privilege? This is the exact definition of white privilege. That's my take.

What's yours? So you're saying he got this because he's white? Y'all telling me it's YouTube. I'm about to. And money. If my son had 3 million, 4 million YouTube followers, he could potentially get the same fight, Joe. And you say he can't? You're looking at me.

I'm agreeing with this. Somebody gets that type of a following and is actively pursuing it yeah there's people that got the followings but they're not pursuing it floyd sees this as yo this is not work to me he said i don't have to bring my a game i don't have to bring my b game said i don't have to bring my z game so if i could come in with my d game and make a hundred million dollars why are you telling me about what floyd said i'm asking why Logan Paul is in the ring with such an accomplished man. And y'all answered it. Y'all said it's only YouTube.

Got it. No, I said it's money. I said it's money. I didn't say it's only YouTube. Y'all said it's money. It's only money. Correct. I think it has something to do with some other things in play.

That might have been more market. Something easier to market. And I'm only throwing this out there because it was at the tip of my brain watching the fight. I'm here to have fun on this conversation. I loved everything about this. I'm not trying to serious this out. But if you want me to tell

you that that did not cross my mind watching this fight. It crossed my mind. Then I would be a liar. I would be a liar. Why? your mind? I would be a liar. Why? Because Logan Paul should never be in a ring with Floyd Mayweather. I'm asking parts.

Why did that cross your mind? He looks like the preppy rich white kid that gets what he wants. I still don't see it. We don't have to get caught up on this. You can think what you want.

I think white privilege is in play you guys do not let's continue let me ask you one question real quick before we do that so why did Floyd fight the Japanese dude on New Year's 2018 money

money that wasn't Japanese privilege I don't know I don't know enough about the gentleman where they fought I didn't watch that fight but I'll tell you

he was the man in kickboxing. He's number one. He had a draw. Just his name being attached to it was a draw. Floyd changed the rules. It's going to be boxing. Yeah, you the man in kickboxing. I'm bringing you in my world where I don't have to train hard.

This is a cakewalk for me. So I can make a shitload of money Doing nothing Same thing here You have a huge following You are the man in your world It's a little different You said something that's not the same No it's a little different

You just told me the Japanese dude Was a black belt The man Had mad fights Was a professional He was the man over there That's what you just told me In kickboxing

Not in boxing Joe Not in No I'm talking not in boxing, Joe. Not in boxing. No, I'm talking about in boxing, bro. Ice, you saying your opinion. It's a difference. Conor McGregor was the man in something. In UFC. Yeah.

Yes, yes. I applaud Floyd for working himself to a point to have all the leverage to be in a place to change the rules. Like LeBron. I applaud that. Hold on, let me finish. So Conor McGregor, hey, take it. Was I a fan of that?

No, it was a money grab. That wasn't a money grab, though. That was actually a ranked fight. That's what I'm trying to tell you. It's a money grab, Ice. I mean, he's not doing nothing not for money, of course. We don't have to argue

every tiny point here. That was a money grab. Everything Floyd does is a money grab. This is what Joe said. And that's my point. Wait, wait, wait. No, this is what Joe's saying.

Joe's saying, yo, you went and got a Japanese dude that's the man in kickboxing right he might not be the man in boxing he's the man in kickboxing which means he's a trained martial artist you go and get Conor McGregor

he's a trained martial artist so there is some potential you don't hear the white privilege in this now say what Logan Paul is Logan Paul is a white YouTuber is what he said yeah come on come on come on we don't have the white privilege in this now say what Logan Paul is Logan Paul is a white YouTuber is what he said yeah come on

come on we don't have to ignore very simple facts he's not a martial artist look his brothers did with all the theatrics on the side that's what sold it

he's selling it that's what they want the brother they're doing all of this I don't think it's white privilege that's all I'm saying I don't think it's white privilege I think if it was

two black dudes that was able to do to put themselves in the same predicament he'd have took that fight that's the definition of white privilege. I think if it was two black dudes that was able to do to put themselves in the same predicament, he'd have took that fight. Ice, that's the definition of white privilege. You just said if it was two black dudes in that same spot.

Black dudes don't get to get to that same spot. That's what I'm arguing. I disagree. Yeah. Okay, let's move on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Live with your opinions. No, no, no, I'm about to give you one.

Live with your opinions and go ahead. Wait, I'm about to give you one. Because y'all not going to change my mind. This is white privilege. And shout out to our white audience. You have a following. Joseph Button has a following. And if they marketed you and Floyd Mayweather to fight

each other, y'all get the same turnout, if not bigger. And you're not white. And Floyd would take that. I'm ready to... Y'all can live with those asinine opinions and examples that you guys are giving out. When you listen back to this tomorrow,

tell me if you agree with yourself. Yes. Good, awesome. Now, on to this. I love where Floyd is. I loved everything about this. Me too. I love it.

I didn't really. I would have liked to see him show that he's a professional boxer a little bit more. Why? How? How else do we do it? I'm 50 and 0. And the only thing he could have done was knock him out.

He was never really the knockout guy. So I wouldn't expect that. Him finishing the fight with white privilege. I hope this is white privilege. Again, if Floyd knocks him out, you lose. He loses if he knocks him out. Because you expected that. But he doesn if he knocks him out because you expected that but he doesn't typically

knock people out I wasn't looking for that I was just looking for him to dance around him a little bit more and not you know get out of some hugs that he was giving him

there was a couple times where he could have gave him some pow pow in Joe's terminology he did and he did not no he was pow powing him inside

there was a lot of times where he could have caught him and absolutely did not on purpose to extend the fight but again I think that it's an exhibition fight. If I come in and I knock him out in the third round, I'd look like a dick. I didn't want to see that. Not in the third round.

And I didn't want to see a knockout. I think that there was verbiage in the contract that encouraged them to lengthen the fight. I'm sure. Absolutely. I'm sure. Absolutely. I'm sure. There's a lot of advertising. Floyd looked like he knocked him out and helped him. Floyd didn't appear to even really start boxing until round three.

I could watch Floyd try to kill roaches that are in his home. That actually would be entertaining. He's art to me. Nah, because he doesn't. He looks like art. If he were fighting by himself in a ring. looks amazing i would watch it because it looks like art and i was amazed that at 44 years old he still looks like art it looked to me like he could have put this gentleman down at any time the fact that people are even debating this in

the street bothers me because that's white privilege. Are they? Yes. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people saying that Logan Paul actually won this fight. Floyd Mayweather, the undefeated guy, could have put Logan Paul down whenever he felt like doing that. Which is my point. I just wish that he would have showed that to maybe people that don't watch boxing as much. That hurts the business. That hurts the business. And it hurts his brand.

It hurts him. It hurts his brand. If I wasn't looking That hurts the business. And it hurts his brand. It hurts him. It hurts his brand. If I wasn't looking for him to kill him, I just would have liked to see him to knock out the 200-something pound six-something guy. Joe, we are not in this together. We are not in the same league. If I get more money per round that this goes,

I'm not running the risk of you not being able to continue the fight. But you could play with him without potentially knocking him out. But that's what he did. He played with him and it looked like he almost knocked him out and held him up with his elbow.

They're having that debate out there now. I won't do that here. I enjoyed this. I enjoyed this. I enjoyed the premise of this. This is the new age. This is just the new age way of doing shit. Yeah.

This is versus, this is, you have to have a bigger plan creatively moving forward. This was, I was amazed at the business side of this. I was amazed at the creative side of this. I was looking for Trilla's involvement because I'm conditioned, right? With Trilla. Let me just get my thoughts out, please.

I was looking for Triller's involvement but that's because I confused Logan and Jake I think Jake Paul has a deal with Triller got it so there's just big business everywhere here sure great so now we take a brother from somewhere

big YouTuber but he wasn't he don't have the Triller deal see we have numbers to back up whatever jake paul did oh and that was white privilege him getting that shot but good youtuber now we got numbers to back it i didn't see triller anywhere here showtime yeah i didn't i didn't know that showtime i saw cash app in all the places that i normally see triller i saw Jack Dorsey out in Miami at the weigh-in. Shout out to Cash App. I was real happy about this. Sad to my stomach, too.

But really, really, really happy about this because what have I been coming here and saying about Cash App for so long? They just going to get behind these types of creative new age. Everything about this was awesome. I tried my best to count up all of the advertisements. I couldn't. Oh, man. Did you see in between the rounds they were showing fucking movie trailers? I couldn't. I was like, and it's the premiere of certain trailers.

You didn't see them beforehand. I didn't know a new Purge was coming until this shit. I didn't know OnlyFans made a leather fitted. Yeah, saw that too. Floyd came out in a fucking OnlyFans fitted. I think I saw a Fashion Nova robe somewhere.

I saw something. Fam. It was money. A lot of money through there. Y'all can sit and talk about was it a knockout,

knockdown, if you want. There was a lot of money in play that night. Then I saw Blueface later that night.

He made a little video talking about hey man i paid twelve thousand dollars for some seats i feel like i got robbed blue face you got robbed nigga you didn't this was a robbery this is a robbery this is a stick up yeah you paid 12 grand nigga look the face masks his money. Hey, that crocodile alligator suit, getting paid to wear that. For everybody here is getting paid. I couldn't count all the ad money. And I was glad that you did. I'm glad to go pay that $50.

I wasn't doing nothing on a Sunday night. I had a cold. I'm just saying, when these events come up, I'm home, not doing anything, and I'm appreciative of it. Like, we do spend so much time ridiculing this shit. Like, I did. No, I didn't. No, this was great. As someone who's just a casual fan of boxing, though, I'm not a diehard.

I would have just liked to see a little bit more. Fanciness. I'm the man here, just to be clear. That's all. That's my only knock on it. I like DeSus and Mero doing the announcement. That shit was great. I love that. They were amazing. They were great. here, just to be clear. That's all. That's my only knock on it. I like Desus and Mero doing the announcement. That show was great.

I love that. They were amazing. They were great. Yo, that's the other new trend. Shout out to Desus and Mero. doing the opening song. That was dope. I don't want to hear

regular sports announcers and commentators anymore. Nope. It's true. Yeah, Snoop changed that. Yeah. Not with them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No? No. Well, he added changed that. Yeah. Now with them, this is great. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No? No. Well, he added to that. Yeah. Sports commentators changed it. Sports commentators changed it. This is only my opinion. I don't have time to argue with y'all about all my opinions.

Yeah. No, no, I'm saying how so? Because they all got up there. It was only one Stuart Scott. True. They all got up there and said the same stats with the same shit with the same yakety yakety yakety yakety flare or any yeah and then here comes Stuart Scott here come oh we got to get Stephen A on personality uh skip bold opinion um

even now today Tony Romo when you hear Tonyo, you can't hear them no more. Nah, that's right. Hey, today. They got to tell him to tone it down. This is what I mean. Tony Romo be calling the plays. They got to tone it down.

Guessing him. Hey, guess the Super Bowl. He was up there calling play by play. I know they told him, yo, my man, Tony Romo be like, they're about to run

a blah, blah, blah right here. Yeah. And that shit be like, this is a letter. But that's what I mean about sports comments. Calling the gaps and all that shit be like this is a letter but that's what i mean about all that shit that shit was great but that's what i mean about commentators ruined this i can't even hear a basketball game if it's not hubie brown doris burke or mike uh mike bring bang bang it's maybe bang and mark jackson and um kevin harland and jeff vangundy i don't want to hear but anybody else now it matters to me where you And Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy. Van Gundy and Mark Jackson are the best.

But anybody else, now it matters to me where you're broadcasting your shit. The whole first round, Philly and the Wizards was on NBA TV. I'm not watching that over there. These announcers, your halftime show, your commercial, nothing's flying over here. So, yeah, today, you got to deal with Snoop. You got to deal with Deezus and Merrill. So yeah today You gotta deal with Snoop You gotta deal with Deezus and Mero

What's gonna happen When Steven Jackson and fucking And Matt Barnes start commenting It's over It's over Like I'm gonna keep it a buck with you Charles Barkley Shaq and Kenny Smith

After the games are off Bro you'll stay up another hour Just to hear them They're the goats Bro it's 1230 Like motherfuckers gotta work the next day You're staying up to hear them. They're the GOATs. Bro, it's 1230. Like, motherfuckers got work the next day. You're staying up to hear them. That crew is the GOAT crew.

They are the... Make no mistake about it. They have revolutionized this. They've done it. That is the GOAT crew. They've done it. They've revolutionized this. What a show.

Shout out to them. But back to this, man. I don't... Shout out to Cash App. Shout out to everybody that played a part in in this money bag yo money bag yo what the fuck was up with logan paul's song choice coming in you just knew he was about to lose white people will play some folk choir country song to get hyped for a fight yeah like wasn't nobody hyped, but his man, his trainer.

His trainer was mouthing the word behind it. Did he have a Pokemon card around his neck? Yeah, he did. Is that what that was? I saw Pokemon. Okay. He might have got paid. He might have got paid to rock that.

He might have got paid from Pokemon. I wouldn't be surprised. They had people in the building. Listen. Yeah, they knew what this was. Sporting events are back. People are outside. We say that every week,

but it feels good to see it. Yeah. Nah, that every week, but it feels good to see it. Yeah. That's real. It does feel good to see it. At first, I didn't think there was because in the opening fights, there was no people in the crowd,

but it was raining too. No, we're coming for this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Then it was a full-ass stadium. Shit, like five of the barbers from my barber shop.

I'm on Instagram. All you niggas is in Miami at the fight. What the fuck is y'all doing? The whole nook was in Miami whole no because yo that shit was crazy it was in miami that's real but it was an entertaining way to uh spend sunday i will give it that no it was good do y'all like the trend of people who aren't fighters fighting do you want to see it continue uh if they're gonna take it serious like it looks like chad really got with some professional boxing training. I watched his feet the whole fight.

I watched how he held his hands. I watched his stances. It looked like he really took the shit seriously. So that's cool. One thing about Chad, he plays soccer every morning. Like, still. Yeah, his feet game is... No, even as a receiver.

They say, yo, he'll tell you his route and still bust your ass. So, his footwork was just impeccable. Like, they sent Antonio Brown to work with him on just footwork. Yep. Can you answer the question I asked and stop talking about that topic? I said, if they're going to take it seriously and really put an effort into it, yeah, I wouldn't mind. So, you do want to see it?

Yeah, I wouldn't mind it. I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it, too. As long as it's entertaining. Yeah. As long as it's entertaining. Yeah. As long as it's entertaining. Soulja Boy, you did not start celebrity boxing matchups, like you're saying, on the internet. Wow, you're going to discredit Soulja Boy like this?

I watched the Sticky Fingers fight. Oh, man. I watched that one. That was a thing too. So I am going to tell Soulja Boy that he didn't start that one. He can have all the rest of the stuff. Oh. But Sticky did that

hopefully so we don't have to go through that. That's what's going to learn y'all. Listen where's all the tough guys? Why they not boxing? Well they boxing

it's just they not taking no fights. Nah we getting Nate Robinson we getting Chad we getting I'm not to diss

these people of course I'm just saying the people that run around championing that fight where you at? well you see Royce was talking about getting the I don't want to see Royce fight

I would call him and talk him out of that immediately he's knocking somebody's foot off depending on what the bag is I wouldn't mind seeing that though that is where the money is yo this fool if I thought I had four rounds

I mean I'm going to take one I'm going to take one you got four rounds in you no he don't. No, not today. No. You don't have a round and a half. I don't have a round.

No, Joe. That shit smoke too much. Yeah. I don't smoke in the fight, nigga. I don't stop smoking during my last fight. With the glove? You want to sign? You sitting on the stool in the corner?

Yo, smoking with the boxing glove is nuts. Yo, the YBN dudes are talking about fighting. With the glove. Y, smoking with the boxing glove is nuts. Yo, the YBN dude to talking about fighting. With the glove. YBN Almighty J is talking about fighting YBN Amir again. That's it.

I'm not super familiar with these gentlemen, so God bless. I'm with it, though. I like this over niggas shooting each other. Facts. So, yeah, fight.

Yeah. And if you can make a bag, settle your difference, why not? Word. Know where the problem lies. The men, that's my nigga right there. Well, him. They both kind of cool, actually. They both cool dudes.

I just think they should team up and jump Cordae. He the one with the girlfriend that made $55 million. What are y'all two fighting about? Y'all supposed to join forces. Anyway, moving right along. Listen, I don't know if we talked about Mark Eaton's passing, but rest in peace Mark Eaton. Mark Eaton,

Utah Jazz Center. From the Jazz. Mark Eaton. Mark Eaton passed, man. Mark Eaton passed. And Mark Eaton was one of the first centers I knew when I was young and just needed to know a tall, big white boy from Utah. Yeah, Mark Eaton passed, man. Mark Eaton passed. And Mark Eaton was one of the first centers I knew when I was young and just needed to know a tall, big white boy from Utah. Yeah, Mark Eaton was nice. He wasn't nice, but.

I thought he was nice. He was 7'5". He was good, though. He wasn't 7'5". 7'4", pardon me. He was tall. Rest in peace. Rest in peace to Mark Eaton, nonetheless.

Rest in peace to Clarence Williams III like I said earlier. Legend. That was sad. Yeah. So we lost somebody else. We lost somebody else. From the Giants. Fossil. Fossil. We lost Jim Fossil as well. I didn't know that. New York Giants

former head coach. Yeah. Do we know how Fossil passed? No? No. No, of course not because it's too soon. Of course. They haven't released anything. Rest in peace know how Fossil passed? No? No, of course not, because it's too soon, of course. They haven't released anything. Yeah. Rest in peace to Jim Fossil, Clarence Williams III, and Mark Eden. Rest in peace to D-Thing, too, as well.

Dirk's brother. Dirk's older brother. Dirk's brother who was murdered over the weekend. More unfortunate news, sad news. And the news is still sad. The news, I mean mean when you watch it all of this stuff is sad prayers, condolences, thoughts

to family, friends, fans and just stay safe stay safe out there only Beyonce can save us. Right. She does it every time. Bring the beat in.

Honey. Honey. I can see the stars. Just a little pick me up. Just a little. me up Just a little Y'all feeling good, y'all? Y'all okay? Y'all okay?

Is she okay? Is she okay? Good, bro Alright, just making sure If you weren't okay, would you tell somebody? Would you reach out and touch someone's hand? No Didn't think so

No Everybody asks me why I'm smiling I don't care But I know Now everybody ask me why I'm smiling, I don't care to hear But I know, I know Nothing's perfect, but it's worth it after fighting through my tears And finally you put me down, nothing gets better What I love is what I do I hate y'all.

I hate it here. I really do. Nah, nah, don't worry about it. I'm keeping up. I'm keeping up. I'm here. I mean, I'm here. Y'all don't have to be.

Y'all can't do something like that. I don't care. Now, I was home minding my business, doing the things that I like to do. Actually, that's not true. I was home watching reruns of American Greed. Okay. American Greed is such a great show. It is. That show needs to win a fucking award.

Yeah. It does. It's great. Yeah, it is. Anyway, not anyway. One episode of American Greed, they busted, the girl was trying to get her boyfriend killed because she was trying to get the insurance money. She couldn't get it.

The law in the house, she had to kill him, right? She found a hitman to kill him. She got with the hitman, gave him some pussy, told him the plan. He felt bad for the dude. He felt bad for dude.

He told him? Called him up. He lied. Called the police, put them all on, and then the cops went through with the planning of the murder so they made it look like a murder scene they put yellow tape around the house called her up said yo rush home immediately from work oh shit yo your husband has been killed that you started crying and go crazy american American Greed is great. You're lying. Oh, man, they brought her in for interrogation.

He was in the other room. They had the killer in there. Wow. They had undercover cops. Yo. Undercover killers. It was great. It was great.

See, Joe, this is the shit you got to hit us and say, yo, watch this. I would love to see that. Watch American Greed? Yo. Damn. I would love to. That's amazing. So she was in there giving her statement

and homeboy just walked out yeah thought you had me huh like he was Orange Juice Jones well apparently the dude

that she sent that she hired to do the hit he sent her to an undercover cop to be like a bigger killer so they had footage

of all the meetings phone calls the meetings everything so when they was interrogating her they brought in the cop who was a killer a bigger killer. So they had footage of phone calls, the meetings, everything. So when they was interrogating her, they brought in the cop who was a killer. They brought in the other dude who

she fucked. And the husband was walking out. The husband that's supposed to be dead. And she said, Mike, come help, please. No, thank you. Wait, so then she went to jail. And long story less long, we'll move on. She went to jail and long story less long we'll move on she went to jail and called him

from jail for help and he helped her with his no he didn't help her but he listened to her he listened to her I bet he did

he gave her some money on the love he gave her some money I was watching American Greed and then I scrolled down my phone and I saw an announcement

from none other than the queen her fucking self snow allegra and i fucking jizzed my pants like you knew i would what they thought i was doing right now parks what y'all thought was going on now ice and ish Ish. Ice, I know you're not an R&B dude. This is Snow Allegra. I'm aware. If you have been under a rock

or away from your phone or doing anything productive, maybe you missed it. Snow Allegra's album is dropping July 9th. July 9th. Air horns. I'm aware. She gave him a little taste of the snippet.

She gave him a little taste of the introet She gave him a little taste of the intro A snippet of the intro It sounded like vibes It sounded like fireplace rooftop vibes Sounded like the vibes from the last album That we all knew and loved was waiting for It sounded like a Drake intro 40 reverb backwards Whitney sample It sounded like all of that

Thank God that she hasn't found love yet, man Round of applause intro 40 reverb backwards Whitney sample. It sounds like all of that. Thank God that she hasn't found love yet, man. Round of applause. Round of applause. That mean the music will still be fire? It's all the way fire. All the way fire. Snow Allegra hasn't found love.

She didn't go out looking for love. And if she is in love, she's doing a great job of hiding it from us the way it fucking should be because when she came out and did that video kissing michael b jordan the whole hood was angry just you i'm the whole hood and we be pushing these jokes but i don't i don't look at snow allegra that way i'm just a really huge really huge fan of hers she has that mystique thing going for her where she pops in and pops out whenever she feels like it and she's successful enough to do that.

So this came as a surprise for me. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for an announcement. I've been waiting on it, but next month was a surprise, which got me to thinking about all the other people that I know have been working on albums that I'm waiting on. So it won't be a surprise, which got me to thinking about all the other people that I know have been working on albums

that I'm waiting on, so it won't be a surprise. I mean the bigger acts. Like Snow for me is a big act. Puff has been working on an album, secretly or unsecretly. I don't know if people have been able to piece that together. It looks like it. It doesn't look tough. Your girl SZA.

He's coming out with albums. SZA's coming out with albums. SZA and Snow in the same summer is interesting. That's interesting. Yeah. A week apart. I want to stay out of women's business because I love all of these women. I don't know about that one.

What you mean? I might let SZA just do whatever she's doing and get out the way why though if I were an R&B songstress

yeah when's SZA album drop we don't know but somewhere around there in July somewhere we don't know we know she got the shit

in June when's that live shit that's the 18th it's coming or the 17th so we know something around there is coming I would give SZA

a three weekweek runway. I'm not saying that Snow should do that. They're probably friends and support each other and all that good shit. Of course. I wouldn't want to. They fuck around and drop the same day. This is why, Ish. Look, they fuck around and drop the same day.

Let me tell you. That would be a mistake. But let me tell you why. And this is not an indictment against Snow. I think all of my listeners know how I feel about her. It's not just SZA. It's her, too. What you mean? Her.

The artist. There are a few of these acts that are going to have all of the marketing dollars behind them, all of the budgets behind them, and they're going to take carte blanche at the award shows, at the festivals. It's going to be their runway for the next seven months have have a c fit snow i love her that record that she put out i think it was

dying for your love dying for yeah it was that record cool record uh-huh and now we got an album. Okay. Is that on the album? I'm sure it is. Yeah, it is. It's just right there. Track six. I'm sure it is.

Track four. But that's not the point. It's you put a record out. Your fans loved it like me. And now there's an album coming out. That's awesome. But I wouldn't play like that if that's the strategy with entire buildings that have been waiting years for Scissor to drop. The building has been waiting three years for Scissor to drop.

I think you could piggyback, though. Maybe. Maybe. I just wouldn't risk it. I'm not a music guy. I'm just saying, like, but again, the same way when Banks dropped the same day as Dirk and him, right? Like, yo, if you go to pick up an album and you see that the Banks shit out,

you're like, oh shit, I didn't even know. Let me get that too. But you could be over it. Like, I still haven't really given Dirk album the proper time because I'm a Banks fan. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? I've been...

I mean, music is your business. Before Joker, like me. But since I didn't snow drop the same day or even a week apart, I'm going to be conflicted. And I don't like that example because Banks is 20 years in and he's now an independent artist. He's done everything he needed to do.

This is so second half. Snow's second half. Yeah. So why you can't buy both? You can. You can. But we come in here twice a week and talk about how expensive going outside is. Now you want the consumer to just have $30 ready.

They ain't not buying music, Joe. They're streaming that. They're not buying. how expensive going outside is. Now you want the consumer to just have $30 ready. Or the... They're not buying music, Joe. They're streaming that. They're not buying... Like, you figure the bigger artists like the SZA, that's going to be mostly streams. Yeah, both of them

will be mostly streams. I think a lot of people will buy Snow, though. I think those smaller artists get purchased. That may be true. So that's why I don't see it hurting, you know, if she were to, if they were to drop the same day. I don't think it hurts as bad because it's two different markets almost.

I'm a fan of both. I know that I will buy both regardless, but I will be conflicted in which to play more and which to play first and stuff like that. That would be my only argument. Listen, and I've brung this up not even for us to argue about. I want to celebrate all the women that are dropping. I'm just really excited. I'm excited about both. Really excited that Snow is dropping.

I don't care what she sells. I don't care how she does. That was just me getting in my business. Wait up. Hold up. I'm just so happy that she hasn't found love And we're gonna get a real R&B album About some nigga that she's mad at still

Snow, we love you And anytime you need a shoulder to lean on Or just somebody to talk to about These niggas ain't shit, actually For real Nah, honestly, the fuck? The fuck? Yo, that shit fuck? The fuck? Yo, that shit is old.

I am so excited about the return of Snow Allegra. I'm hitting the air horn again. I'm ready to stand out. Me too. I got my 999 ready. Now. You put me on the snow. Now.

I put you on the mad shit. No, you didn't. Oh. No, you didn't. Now, it's the return of somebody else. Huh? They trying to fight the feeling out there. Huh?

Who's coming? Miss Snow. Big Snow. Big Megan. Ah. Huh? That's Snow. The Snow.

I see what you did there. I see what you did. Meg the Stout. Wait, what happened? Snow and Snow? You see what you did, Snow? Miss Snow. Oh. I didn't even know I did there. I see what you did. Meg the Stallion. Wait, what happened? Snow and Snow? You see what you did? Snow, Miss Snow. Oh, I didn't even know

I did that. Oh, you did? Accidental. Don't ask me. Don't even ask me how it happened. The return of Meg and the Stallion. Round of applause. That was a short break.

She came back pretty quick. I'm excited for it, but she said she was going to take some time off. Come on, give some time. She came back pretty quick. I'm excited for it, but... She said she was going to take some time off. Come on, let's give some honest opinions here. That's an honest opinion. How do you feel about this, Ish? Meg Thee Stallion is a female rapper.

Signed to 300. She's from Houston. Shut the fuck up, man. She lost her mom. She had a big single with Cardi B. She's all the rave. How do you feel? I feel you're an asshole.

Nah, she, what, two months ago, she said she needed some time off. That might be her time. That was it. She's young. Maybe niggas ain't shit. And now she could come back. She might not be in love no more.

We don't know. No, she's still in love. We are seeing her in Party Fontaine everywhere still. Or everything could be a rollout. You know me. Wait, wait, wait. I don't believe anything I see on the internet. Wait, Ice.

I'm just saying. If she's in love, I'm happy for her. I don't really care about that. I wonder if Party's going to be involved with the music at all. I believe so. I believe that was. That's a nice set of ears and pen to have on your side. Now you get, that's me saying everything's a rollout. I don't understand

what Ice is saying. Me either. Can you explain? Would you like me to explain what I'm saying, bro? Can you explain? Okay, sure. What do you mean? Okay. A lot of people attributed Party to Cardi's success. Her and Cardi have been all over. Yes, yes, yes, they have. Yes, they have. So I get with the

hottest pen for a female artist, right? I'm all over them yes they have yes they have so i get with the the hottest pin for a female artist right i'm all over them so everybody know anticipating you know what he can do so if this is now my pin you're anticipating what's getting ready to come from that but where's the rollout piece that is the rollout that right there just showing you just just you seeing it that's the rollout instagram has been the rollout for a lot of people okay if i don't have any music i used to sound like you naming smart business i'm not saying nothing wrong with it the hottest the hottest uh female ghost the hottest ghost writer for women in rap correct you get with him there's nothing i'm not complaining about it i just said

everything could be a rollout. It is smart business. Yes. Listen, how do you feel about Miss Snow being back? I don't care. Now, the thing is, when she announced her break. That's not my demographic. I'm not her demographic, I should say. I don't care.

Okay, well, when foot action fires you, you have to care. Today, you don't care. Okay, well, when foot action fires you, you have to care about it. Today, you don't care. But when you ain't stocking them Air Maxes on top of one another, you don't give a fuck about that. Listen to this. Two months ago, whenever she announced the break, she announced it in a way that, and this is where I subscribe to you guys' thinking,

she announced it in a way that was, it was artwork. Yeah. She had artwork for the- It was artwork. For the vacay. For the vacation. Which said, okay, cool.

And now the artwork on the return and the video is from the artwork from the vacation, which meant that- It was planned. There was some thought put into this. But I don't care. I'm staying out of women's business. How do we feel? Everybody's coming back. The return of everybody.

See, they're saying the return of snow, the return of snow. Yeah, snow and Miss Snow. But it's the return of everybody. Shit is open now. Niggas got money to give. We got to put shit out. We got to get back to work. And I need a goddamn soundtrack to this summer, so I'm here for it.

Meg is your soundtrack to this summer? No, but it And I need a goddamn soundtrack to this summer, so I'm here for it. Meg is your soundtrack to this summer? No, but it'll probably be my Beyonce soundtrack to her summer. So I will vicariously get to enjoy the benefits. Let's see what you did there. Let's see what you did. Okay. Congratulations to Meg. Congratulations to

Snow Allegra. Yeah. Someone else was coming this week too, I thought, right? Snow Project. Didn't you say someone else was dropping? Oh, Migos, right? Migos. Migos is dropping. Migos. Yeah. Someone else was coming this week, too, I thought, right? I can't wait to hear that, that Snow Project. Didn't you say someone else was dropping? Oh, Migos, right? Migos. Migos is dropping. Migos. Ain't nothing but a little bit of straightening.

That's it. Ain't nothing but a little bit of straightening. Now, does that line mean the same thing no matter who says it? That's my question. Y'all know I have all the respect in the world for Quavius, for Takeoff. I thought them niggas looked swagged out at the fight. That was fly. I didn't like how the announcer started talking over their performance.

I didn't like that either. I was like, yo, come on, man. I didn't like it. Have some respect for Migos when they're doing their fucking hit single with an album dropping. Right. But Lil Baby posted on his Insta story. Lil Baby, if you don't know the hottest rapper in the world, posted on his Insta story,

ain't nothing but a little bit of straightening with some crying emojis, one, two, seven of them, and the agony emoji that is applicable anytime you want to use it. So, what does this mean? They're on the same label. He's promoting. It's a little bit of straightening. That's what it means.

What? All right, so we ain't going to say what nothing means. We don't know what it means. We don't know what anything means. I mean, I don't. I know you don't know what it means. I'm not the most keen, but I heard they had a little bit of issues back in the day. You heard they had something that needed straightening out?

Yeah, but I heard it got straightened out already. I heard the same thing. I heard it got straightened. I heard it got straightened out already. I heard the same thing. I heard it got straightened. I heard it got straightened. That's why I'm asking this question. That's why. Thank you. So y'all do know about some of the stuff I'm talking about. So he could be on a hook or he could not be. Is this support or nah? Is what I'm asking.

I think it's support at this point. It's not support, bro. But we don't know that. We don't know. I don't know that. So how would any of us know? We can make educated guesses. I think it's support. I think it's support.

You think it's support? Yes. With the emojis? Sure. With the last emoji? Sure. Still? The last emoji says it might not be support.

That's it. But go ahead. The crowd faces are funny, too. Also, people brought up that Migos were not present at P's birthday party. Now, I didn't really take that to be a big deal. No, that was a different day, Parks. I didn't take that to be a big deal. You can miss your man's party.

But I guess in combination with this, do I miss that party though? You can't miss your man. Not a party like that. You can't miss that party. Yes, you can. You have an album coming. I'm running around.. You can't miss that party. Yes, you can. You can't work out an album. You have an album coming. I'm running around.

And this is the nigga that's putting your album out. And they rich. Fuck you talking about? I'll go there for the night. We can be on the first thing smoking the next morning. And you're recording here if you wanted to go. That's my point. We don't know that they wanted to go.

We don't know that. And that's Ice's point as well. But I cannot want to go to my man's party that. And that's Ice's point as well. But I cannot want to go to my man's party and not be beef is what I'm saying. No, you can't not go to the party of that magnitude.

That wasn't a normal party. That shit was a soiree with the white tiger. The who's who. Lions, tigers, and bears. You got to go show up to show face. If people don't see Joe Budden

at the next puff event, nobody's going to say they're beefing. I know. You not them. You don't got an album coming. I know. You not them. You don't got an album coming out on Friday. You not them. Under puff. Yeah, what are you talking about?

That is a big just an optic. No, you're right. All I'm saying is it don't have to mean that trouble is on the horizon. That's all I'm saying. Because I don't know. None of us know for sure.

You're right. You're right. But what I'm saying is P ain't said nothing. Coach K ain't said nothing. Nobody at that party said nothing. Lil Baby ain't said

nothing outside of this. It really has been kept quiet. Even whatever allegedly happened with Justin Alley and Migo. It's all been kept quiet.

We don't know shit about shit. I like that. Yeah, me too. Bring that back. Word. I like it. Yeah, me too. Bring that back. Word. I like it too, but then when I see statements like this

and I have a podcast that I have to discuss it, it's like I have to mention it, but I don't know shit. You can mention it without, we don't have to know. They're not giving you enough to really delve into.

If this was something, I can't even talk about it. Somebody should stop it if it's something. I got to stop talking about hip-hop through 40 year old brain let me say that no it's not enough answers for you to even come up with a with a with a logical rational explanation it's not even enough information 50 50 it could be yay it could be nay you don't know i know but what i'm saying is if it's nay then there's nothing to talk about

it's support but if it's yay oh maybe i fucked it up but if it's yay, then there's nothing to talk about. It's support. But if it's yay, oh, maybe I fucked it up. But if it's yay, there is something here. Somebody should investigate it, is all. Because they're two of the biggest acts in the world.

Now, I don't know. Maybe if I'm P, I mind my business. Because y'all both signed to me. I'm staying out of this. I mean, I can see that too. We started talking about Them not showing up

To homeboys birthday party A birthday party Of that magnitude In hip hop You have to adjust Your schedule To be at If there's no beef

Let me also say I didn't see Coach K At the party I'm not saying He wasn't there I'm just saying It wasn't so publicized The Migos

Would have been publicized Though I'm with saying he wasn't there. I'm just saying it wasn't so publicized and promoted. The Migos would have been publicized, though. I'm with Issh. That's valid. I'm with Issh. Okay, but if there was ever some smoke, maybe the smoke is dead, and I'm the Migos, maybe I don't want to go to the party

if the guy I had smoke with in the past was there. It's not a knock against Pete. I also maybe don't want to go if the guy I had smoke with is the biggest rapper in the world almost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'm not disagreeing with that.

All right. I'm shutting up. But you're saying it wasn't no smoke. I'm saying I don't know. I'm curious to hear what Amigo's album sounds like in 2021. Oh, no. That's going to be fire. Yeah.

That's going to be fire. If it's like straightened. I like straightened a lot. Straightened is fire. That's why I didn't understand. I like straightened. I like that song. I love that song. I liked it when they performed it. I didn't like it when they performed it. I like Straighten it. That's why I didn't understand. I like Straighten it. I like that song. I love that song.

I liked it when they performed it. I didn't like it when they performed it. I liked it then. I'm not a fan of the Migos performing live. Really? No. Just live performance. I like their music, but certain artists, I don't like to hear them live.

Well, the fight thing was particularly bad because it's in an arena, so there was a delay between the wireless mics and the thing. I went to the tour they did with Drake. I'm not a fan of them performing live. The music slaps in the club. It does its purpose. Live is just different. Speaking of performing live, I have another re-record to play for you gentlemen.

Right? Oh, come on. I'm going to play it quickly. Come on, man. I'm going to play it quickly. I'm scared. But don't be. This one, this one,

they did it right? There's no universe where the gentleman will not be able to sing. He, for the rest of his life, will be able to sing. So much so that the re-record just sounds like a live version of his record.

So I'm going to play it, not to clown it, because I support this brother. And hey, get your coins. You going to play the original first? No. Oh, OK. Oh, so that's when you know we good. No need.

There's no need. Yeah, we good, dude. There's no need to do it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Listen, Carl Thomas, friend of the show, you that dude. And this record will always do it. Oh yeah Listen to this last night Friend of the show You that dude

And this record Will always do it So if you wanna Resing this shit 90 times Yeah we good In whatever In your morning voice

In your rant In any voice you want Listen to Carl right now Current Storming Outside Rain she Keeps me home

Yeah, I'm not mad at you. Stop it, nigga. Because we was grooving, nigga. I'm about to get up and dance with you. Dance with me. You want to dance with me? I'm not. What's wrong with you, man?

I don't want to dance with you. Hey, listen up, Nova. Let me go. Come on, if you're out there listening. Y'all know what this is. 30, 35 and up, Nova. Let them go. Come on, if you're out there listening. Y'all know what this is. 30. 35 and up. 35 and up.

Yeah. 35 and up. Word up. I don't have nothing bad to say. Alex back there killing it. It just sounds like a live version of Summer Rain. It sounds like a live album version. Now, pretty ass Daphne just dancing in the rain then he went then he went and did uh

hold up he was on a roll he did it he did it he did them all up really yeah he did he 48. Carl Thomas will always sound like Carl Thomas though Love, emphasize I know From the way she does I almost bought this shit I say it all Long days and nights We've spent I let it go to the hook, man.

Karaoke classic right here. Some of y'all know about it. The bomb on me. Yo, she dropped a bomb on him. What she did? Scandalous ass. Unhappy. Yeah, that's good.

Carl, Carl, your turn to lie. Go ahead. Everybody lying on this song She was unhappily married And you wish you never met her Yeah, I know I love her so And she's got love

That's right now That sounded great Yeah, I know That's dope I know That sounded great No, he sounded awesome I don't remember the last re-record I did in here

Because it was a while ago Yeah, it's been a while Did I do Cisco's? I don't believe so Please don't remember the last re-record I did in here because it was a while ago. Yeah, it's been a while. Did I do Cisco's? I don't believe so. Please don't, though. We good. Nah, we good, yo. What song did Cisco re-record?

It don't matter. Funny that you should ask. If you guys get a convo going. Nah, nah, nah. But no, this is the perfect episode to play the Cisco one because Cisco, too, I thought. You thought he would smoke it? Cisco will never not be able to sing, so it's not the same. I'll play it.

It's really the production that they need to step up in a lot of these. Nah, it's both. Well, there's a couple of the vocals. But no, but if the production was right, the vocal would sound right over it. You understand what I'm saying? You could redo the shit. Listen, you want your little engineering bag? Hey, man.

Some of these things sound crazy. He did a great job. He said, not a lady's no. He ain't do that shit. Oh, no. That's the remix. Yes, he did. He did.

I was going to say what he did. He did. You want me to try to find it? How can I love you tonight over, right? As long as he don't do that, we good. You can't really fuck this song? No, that's not it. Because he don't really have to. I'm not going to try to find it? He can't. How can I love you tonight over, right? As long as he don't do that, we good, yo. You can't really fuck this song, though. No, that's not it. Because he don't really have to.

I'm not going to try to find it. But it doesn't sound bad. It doesn't sound bad. You can't. And the other part of that is that that first verse is the same as the second verse. So if you do the first verse, cool. Yeah. And fly that shit to the second.

You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, it's not the most. You don't really hit no notes like that. Except the second hook. I want to do a bracket of songs. this second you know what i'm saying like yo it's not the only hit no notes yeah like that except the second hook i want to do a bracket of songs what's the best song with the same exact verse on it like there's a few of them uh drake hold on we're going home cisco thong song uh damn there's another big one where i was like wow that verse is the same on the second anyway come on let's move on. Move on.

Speaking of Drake, actually, Drake has partnered with Live Nation to open a concert venue in Toronto called History. Let me hit round of applause. I said round of applause. Let me hit the round of applause. Congratulations to him as well as Live Nation. The writing has been on the wall with this since OBO Fest. If you're able to bring that

many people together for that amount of years and get that amount of coin, then you can partner with somebody and do something like this. Congratulations to both of them. 2,500 capacity, yeah. That's some nice money. I support this.

I support this. I like this a lot. And shout out to all the artists out there getting back on the road back into the hostings the traveling the touring uh when y'all post these flyers i could feel i feel the excitement and y'all posting them it's not like the normal hey i'm going on the road support is yo i can't wait to get on the road and just get back in front of the fans. So, shout out to everybody. What else is important that we need to get to? Let's see.

You want to touch on? I don't want to touch on anything, Ice. That might make. All right. The 2021 Rap Media Mount Rushmore. All right. Don't you want to touch? A I thought you didn't want to touch. No, no, no.

No touch on this. A little touch. Get a little touch. Yeah, okay. Touch it, feel it, baby. Consensual. A consensual touch. Pain at the top of my head.

Yeah. Man, get a look over there. Yeah. Yeah. And he put Mary on the remix to rap. Oh, man. I remember. AKA Brooklyn.

I remember. Yeah, come on. Come on. Give it up. All remember. AKA Brooklyn. I remember. Yeah, come on. Come on, give it up. All right, Elliot Wilson. Elliot, you and B-Dot are doing an amazing job of riling people up. And I wish y'all

knock it the fuck off. Relax. Chill out, man. Enjoy the summer. But no. Nah. You gotta go be a provocateur.

That's it. So he's at it again. Elliot Wilson posts. The 2021. And anytime somebody start posting about Mount Rushmore, they ready for beef. Yeah. They ready for smoke. They want it.

They want it. They are. 2021 Rap Media Mount Rushmore, Elliot Wilson says, is see the God, button, academics, and question mark. Now, I have a little bit of hate. Small order of hate that I'm going to put on top of this. Not the big mash. Just a dash. I'm going to sprinkle some hate on here.

I know you're listening at home like, damn, what could he hate on about this? I found something. That your name wasn't first? No. No. Humility is key. Today. Today.

But before we get to that, is this a passive-aggressive question from Elliot Wilson? Why? Because he's supposed to be the fourth person? Because he said and with a question mark. He hasn't been super active lately, though. Elliot's Elliot. No doubt. Legend.

So when you say Mount Rushmore. He's saying 2021. So when you say Mount. 2021. That's what I'm saying. So when you say 2021, that means only for the year? I'm assuming so. That's it.

Or else it would say the all-time rap media Mount Rushmore. Right. Or just the rap media Mount Rushmore. Oh, I thought 2021 would mean all the years up to 2021.

Nah. So just this year? This year. The 2021 rap media Mount Rushmore. So that means I don't like that. Basically the MVPs

of this year. I don't like that. Not built in the six months. Yeah, I don't like that now. Yeah, the basic premise. But fine, we'll entertain it. Nori. Nori would be

probably the fourth. Nori had a good year. I'd say Nori. Yeah. Nori is still having a good year. I saw Nori comment under this post saying that he's sick of the disrespect.

And I may not blame him. Putting it into context, y'all did. Okay, that changes my whole thought process i'm like combat jack has to go up there that's what i was thinking when i first saw it but when i saw the 2021 i said okay combat jack rest in peace i love you and i miss you and thank you for paving the way for all of us to do what the fuck we doing i appreciate you um

no nori goes there definitely yeah for 2021 nori and gilly are having an on-fire race. So if you're talking about the year. You could certainly make the case for Gilly too. Yeah, you could. If you're only talking about this year, they are running and have been for a little bit this year. Ak, I'm going to always just put there and I'm going to always put me there.

Here's some hate. I was about to say, honestly, if you're going to just talk about 2021. Why is Charlamagne on this list? I was about to say, Gilly and Norrie could go up there for 2021. Why is Charlamagne on this list right now? Touche. Now, I get that I'm not the person that's supposed to say that. No, I was going to say that, like, yo.

Because it's hate. There hasn't been the biggest Breakfast Club interview this year. For this year. Yeah. For this year. I wouldn't give a fuck if it has been. Charlamagne has made his bones off of books, politics, depression, anxiety, radio. Yeah, he's had some really huge rap interviews because he's had huge interviews in the last decade.

But when you put rap media there i take him out i don't view him as rap me this is not a knock if anything i'm praising that man i just don't view him as rap media i would like to be taken out of the rap media view one day that's why i'm doing interviews like this with chris hansen but uh yeah i would say nori has to go there and if you're doing this year say Norrie has to go there. And if you're doing this year, then Gilly has to go there. Yeah, I agree. Is there anybody else that we may be leaving off? No, not for 2021. That's pretty much right.

What about Elliott himself? Not for 2021. Somebody put Sway. Not for 2021. If you're doing just the all-time Mount Rushmore of media, I don't even know if you can do that. You can't do it. That'd be hard.

Four? Four is media? You can't do it. If you're doing all-time rap media, Angie Martinez is there. Fab Five Freddy is there. Yep. Slow down. Fab Five Freddy is there.

I don't know. I do. He is. You don't have to. Fab Five Freddy is there. You can't put Fab I do. He is. You don't have to. Fab Five Freddy is there. You can't put Fab Five Freddy there and Ed Lover and Dr. Dre there. No, and he paved the way for them to come. Fab Five Freddy is there.

You could pave the way, but if I come start shooting the fucking lights out in this bitch, I'm there. Fab Five Freddy is there. I'm a little older than you. Fab Five Freddy is there. There is no- So give me the rest then. There is no Yo! MTV Raps without Fab Five Freddy. What was the name of Fab Five Freddy's show. There is no Yo- So give me the rest then. There is no Yo-MTV Raps without Fab Five Freddy. What was the name

of Fab Five Freddy's show? Yo-MTV Raps, nigga. He started it before Ed Lover and Dre. It's Ed Lover and Dre, dog. Oh no, you say what you want. It's Ed Lover and Dre. I disagree.

How'd he get that job? I don't know. Stay business. I'm talking about what the fuck you talking about, nigga. Fuck is you talking about? A lot of people just let me. You gotta let

Give me the rest. Give me the rest. All right, Pat Fock, Freddie, Angie Martinez. You gotta find somebody from

out in L.A. Sway? You gotta find somebody. I don't know. Maybe Sway gonna make all time.

Did Wendy Williams go there? No. Rap media? Not from rap media. Not from rap media. No. I'd put Sway.

I don't. No, I'm saying. He's legendary, but again, all time you talking. Valid. No. Sway's valid. Sway has to go there. Oh, man.

Sway's valid. Flex is big. Flex is big. Flex. I'm not putting two people from the same team. So I'm not putting Fab Five Freddy and Ed Love Andre. And I'm not putting Flex Five Freddy and Ed Love Andre and I'm not putting Flex and Angie.

I can't. I'm not disagreeing with that. Angie has to go. And I said somebody come out. She's the only probably unanimous. It's like the Sherlock. Yeah, Angie 100%. No, I think Fab Five Freddy is unanimous. I'm with you, Ish. I'm rooting for Angie. I think Fab Five Freddy is. I love you, Fab Five Freddy.

Please don't think that I don't love you. He's unanimous to me. He's unanimous to my opinion. You got to pull somebody from out west. I don't know who you're going to get. Until you think of a name, let's stop saying it. Sway. It's Sway.

It's Sway. It's Sway. What, Big Boy? It's Sway, dog. It's Sway, man. It's Sway. It's Sway. We got to pay our respects to the dudes that have paved the way that was doing this in the early 90s.

So where's Tigger for? Not on a Mount Rushmore. Yeah, I don't see a Mount Rushmore. We're not. Come on, dog. I'm just asking a question. Big Tigger don't fall on a Mount Rushmore. I'm just throwing names out there.

Even though the basement, the freestyle. All of that shit is legendary. Yeah, but it's not Mount Rushmore. I'm just throwing names out there. Even though the basement, the freestyle. All of that shit is legendary. Yeah, but it's not Mount Rushmore. Because how many seasons was that even on? It was a lot. Enough. It was a lot.

Enough to be in the conversation. They had seven, eight seasons. I don't know, but I'm not letting, listen, whatever white man made up foreheads on the Mount Rushmore,

I'm not letting you make me argue with my brothers. Everybody on the Mount Rushmore, I'm not letting you make me argue with my brothers. Everybody on the Mount Rushmore, God damn it. Gang. Yeah. Maybe just smaller heads.

Yeah, I'm funny. Squeeze more in. Yeah. Kinky. All right, so let's see. We're done with music. We're done with music. Polo G, man.

This is another one dropping Friday. We're going to mention that. All right, name all the rappers I'm scared to talk about. I ain't scared, but let's see. We're done with music. We're done with music. Polo G, man. This is another one dropping Friday. We're going to mention that. All right, name all the rappers I'm scared to talk about. I ain't scared, but that's one I'm personally looking forward to. The Snoop thing is big. Oh, yeah. Snoop taking over the- Oh, they got the track list out.

Snoop is the- Oh, track list for Migos. Okay, let's see. Let's see. I just want to see features. Drake is there. Cardi B is there. Polo G is there.

Future is there. Justin Bieber is there. Juice WRLD is there. Pop Smoke is there. NBA. This is going to be fire. This is going to be fire. That's not a bad track list. You know what else I like? That's a 19 track album. I'm liking that they got away

from these little short ass albums. We're getting some They've been in the house all year. I like that though. Yo, niggas have been home for a year and a half. I'm happy with this he about to go so crazy on sweetie oh my god oh my god see it works in reverse for for the male male rapper when we go through a breakup fire is on the way and when she started you know me doing her out here i saw a tweet hey i'm looking for someone that can paint a naked picture of me in person.

Niggas was like, excuse me? I just learned how to paint yesterday. I just got some new brushes. I just got my painting degree. I just left fucking home. What's that shit all about? Painting shit? The Guggenheim.

What's that shit? They go to buy all the painting shit the googly eyes what that shit they go to buy all the supplies Michaels Michaels Michaels you running Michaels to meet you a little eclectic

creative artsy girl yeah right there Michaels oh man alright no more music you done

you done you got any other anybody else nobody else dropping no that I'm Justin Bieber did a remix of peaches he invited some black friends along and there's a remix now ushers on it i won't speak bad about it because i'm waiting on the usher project and happy uh happy belated birthday to ellie reed usher luden snoop

ellie reed gave us usher okay True And Justin Bieber Did he? Excuse me? I was asking I thought it was Puff Wait what? No LaFace LaFace

I thought Puff had him first No No no no no No he worked with Puff Can you get with it? No His mother sent him up here To New York

To live with Puff He lived up here for a while Make it more serious this year. Where the fuck is going? This guy is nuts. Something's wrong with you, yo. He said he goes out serious every time. Is that what I did?

Yeah. He stopped me. No. His mother brought him up here. Yeah, it is. You're right. That's not what I did. But all right.

Never mind. What do you do for fun? Doing houses. You don't have no fun. Just fam. This guy is crazy. Oh, my God. All right.

Snoop Dogg is the new creative executive for Def Jam Records. Round of applause. Variety Report. Y'all know I love Variety. Snoop Dogg has joined def jam recordings as executive creative and strategic consultant a new role that will allow him to strategically work across the label's executive team and artist roster uh according to the announcement with an immediate focus on anr and creative development snoop dog is joining def jam as senior strategic

advisor based in la based in Strategic Advisor based in LA. Based in LA. Based in LA and reporting to Universal Music Group Chairman. Oh, he's reporting directly to Lucian. Okay. And Def Jam Interim Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Harlston, who is pictured above left with Snoop. I don't want to read any more of this,

and I want to hate on this. Why? I definitely want to hate on this. I want to hate on this. It's hard because it's Snoop. I don't want to hate on Snoop.? I definitely want to hate on this. I want to hate on this. It's hard because it's Snoop. I don't want to hate on Snoop. Snoop, I love you. You are a brother and a king, and I wish all the success to you. I want you to get all the bags in the world.

Everything. Everything for you. I just don't want to read about it. You don't want to read about it? Nope. Why? This morning, I woke up this morning and was watching first take. I saw Snoop on 75 different commercials.

He's the new Shaq. Sure, yeah. Snoop is promoting things that just, whatever. They pay. It's just whatever. It's just whatever. And I love that for him. I love that for him.

But then when you come and get the gig that you should get, that you should get, that you should have been got, when this is the 200th gig, it's like, eh. He's become that dude. He is that dude. He is that dude. He is that dude. I'm happy to hear someone that knows music have a high position at Def Jam.

No, that's not enough. That's not enough. That's not enough. That's not enough. That's not enough. Somebody that might be open-minded. That ain't enough. I need to know that Snoop has enough time to actively do this job. Snoop is in way too many different avenues.

I need to know that Snoop is actually invested in this. I need to know that Snoop is not spread out. There's some young people over there that could really use his tutelage guidance and wisdom. So I'm not just going to say, hey, because of Snoop, this is great. It has to be great for me to say it's great. I'm extremely happy for Snoop and Def Jam.

They made the right move. And this is the second announcement they made too, right? They said Jeezy or Pusha. Somebody else got some type of something with Def Jam. I thought I saw something. Jermaine Dupri got like a joint venture or something with them too. Jeezy Service Senior Advisor. Yeah, with them, too. Jeezy Servicing. Yeah, that's old, though.

Jeezy? Advisor? That's what she said. Yo, listen, the good part about this is that Def Jam is recognizing that they need to reach out to people of the ilk to get it right. Yeah. That is the good part about this, so congratulations to Snoop. What is this story that's breaking right now that I had no idea about?

Rapper Pooh Shiesty arrested in Miami over King of Diamonds strip club shooting. Is this breaking? This is new? Just surrendered today. Oh, he surrendered.

Rapper Pooh Shiesty surrendered Tuesday to face a criminal charge from a shooting that allegedly happened over Memorial Day weekend at a strip club. Oh, no.

This is the one that was on tape. The rapper whose real name I won't say he is 21 years old I didn't know that wow you know what 21 years old was booked into a Miami Day jail on an aggravated battery charge jail record show.

According to an arrest warrant obtained by William shot a security guard in the leg. The incident happened May 30th, King of Diamonds, strip club, Instagram of him walking out of a show at the club with a weapon. What do y'all want me to do?

What do you want me to do? What do you want me to do what do you want me to do this is where i get torn what do you want me to do what do you want me to say and this is why i want to stop i want to stop interviewing rappers i want to get this podcast far away from rap i do if you're asking me it's been on the back of my mind for a few years now because this is progressive yeah this doesn't seem to be slowing down or stopping and i just got moral codes that won't allow me to discuss certain things so i'm out of this shit as i age i just view it a little different i know i sound like the washed the washed old dude nah you just older. It ain't even washed. It's just older and smarter. And it's just staying away from the shit.

It's not washed. That shit is not washed. And we just don't never have nobody to come out and say, yo, dog, this camera's in here. Well, it looked like, I mean, just from reading this here, that the guard kind of tried to do a little bit of that. It says the security guard saw a gun in his waistband. The guard then told the defendant to hide the firearm and tried to put his hand on his hand to prevent him from taking it out. No, this was after he had a whole bunch of money in his back pocket. Somebody smacked the money on the ground as he was walking out.

Again. So then he went to reach for the banger. I want rap to teach better practices. Yeah. And that's where I was arguing, and we're not getting back to it. again so then he went to reach for the banger i want rap to teach better practices yeah and that's that's where i was arguing and we're not getting back to it right a few weeks ago about that pie and about shit being so diverse cool it may be we're not getting back to that now but the messages that's coming out ain't so diverse like why we can't teach better than this okay and i'm not gonna talk i'm not staying on this because

y'all know i don't talk about this again though like like like i said this is where i get torn personally as a fan of of certain type of rap you know his biggest record says i don't need security because i got my own fire in the club like why is it so bad for you to have security that's the part that i just don't know those two don't have to be connected that could be a dope line anything you say could be a dope well again okay okay let me let me go back let me go back let me go back you don't have to you're right you're right that's where also me and i'm guilty of this and a lot of people are as well we want our rappers to live what they rap enough of that and that's where to a point right enough of it what's the point enough because i can't that's what happens what's the point of fans of rap the past the past hopefully i'm gonna be the point for

me or this used to be me or positivity yeah used to be but we got we got to support that then because there's no mark like again same argument we have before chance puts out a positive album and what happens he gets criticized for it he gets laughed at rap is conditioning conditioning us differently ice you're not torn let me help you i am torn i was about to let me help you you said you're not torn i'm you now i'm gonna say you didn't want to stay on the topic so i ain't saying i don't want to stay on it but ice is making it interesting now because he keeps every week i'm torn i'm torn. I'm torn. Where's the tear?

You're not torn. You got a one-year-old. You got a one-year-old. Correct. You can't be torn. The end. No, no, no. I'm not torn like I'm living this shit.

No, I'm not torn. That's not the end. That's not the end. We have gone to too many strip clubs for me to listen to you say I'm torn. When the last time I've been to a strip club, John? I don't know. It don't matter. We've been there.

I know. And if a nigga walked in and just started spraying that shit, I would be mad. I would be mad. Jay Prince just put that shit on Instagram. He was like, yo, niggas out at restaurants. He named all of the venues. We can be mad about that. I don't see how you're torn torn we don't have to be torn because we like some of them if you let me finish i'll tell you how i'm torn please tell me i'm torn as i still enjoy the music i champion the music

that's not torn that is torn because he wants them to live with a it's like i hate to see shit like this so how would you want them to live with a rat that's's like, I hate to see shit like this. So how would you want them to live with a rat? That's where the torn comes from. In the past. Ice, these are young black men dying exponentially based on some bullshit

that'll never get to grow up and be great. Where's the tear? I just told you where the tear is. Because you want them to live with a rat. No,

I'm saying that, all right, so in hip hop culture, if you don't, if you're if you're rapping about some shit you didn't live it's clowned you're frowned upon okay that's that authenticity isn't there niggas will get niggas don't take you seriously it's a myth in hip-hop it's a myth i want i want to slow down it is a myth i want to slow down slow down okay slow down

let's have discourse yes come on that is a myth perpetuated by the white people that own this shit, that profit off of us killing each other. That's not real. I'm not even talking about just street shit. Let me talk. Okay. We just seen CJ with one of the biggest records in the country. Nobody thought he was living a thing. It still went.

Yes or no? And your point to CJ was, you know what i ain't seen nobody come out maybe he is living it because ain't nobody come out and say nothing about him either fuck if they do but i'm just saying that when they don't do that we don't say that we was just talking about he came out saying all this shit and everybody was like yo he's a clown because we know he don't live this i know because the white the ah the fucking executives come with it the fucking executives are making us do this i love al pacino when he play all them niggas i don't think he go home and do all that hip-hop we do that

it's only hip-hop and you think that we're getting that from us we are we are yes we're harder on ourselves because nigga you ain't really that you he I go put a gangster rap song out right now, niggas from my hood is going to be on the gram saying, yo, that nigga's lying. He didn't live that life. Back to that free will argument. Let me look at Ish.

I hate to serious us out, but let's do it. Back to our free will argument. Yeah. Let's say Ice is right. He is. Let me... Go ahead.

Let's say Ice is right and there's a large me... Go ahead. Let's say Ice is right and there's a large group of people that don't want to hear that shit if you're not doing it. Right? Mm-hmm. How do I say this? Why do they have that option?

How do they hear that song? song is that oh i hear you right that's where i'm saying so it's a so the people that are doing the signing and the promoting yeah and the paying i'm with you targeting and looking for that specific yes thing you know what was scary to me you know what's scary to me and i'm gonna say this i hate that i get triggered on these conversations but i do i did mano's podcast last week right and i have a different understanding of mano than most and mano was on atlantic and in the pod he told us that he was on atlanta he said it real quick and then he went on. He kept just going with the story, right? And I got triggered because Maino, High Hater is what?

06, 07, 08? Somewhere around there. And he was on Atlantic back then as an act, fresh home with a rep who we heard things about and they ran right and it worked. High Hater and he went off and the second

that he might not have been producing that they left Atlantic left why is that important because look at Atlantic's roster today pull it up

pull it up pull all of it up every one of them niggas that we talking about today 90% of them are on Atlantic they on Atlantic so don't tell me so don't tell me one, two that we talking about today, 90% of them are on Atlanta. They on Atlanta. Mm-hmm.

So don't tell me, so don't tell me. One, two. They all there. I'm not saying names. I checked this. They all there. So don't tell me that,

hey, we don't want to hear the music and let them believe. Hey, ain't no music unless they put it there. That's true. I'm agreeing with you on that. Hey, if a good song come out about some fucking cotton candy

and they use the same rules and play it a million times on the radio and a million, it's all conditioning. Yeah. So don't talk to me about when the conditioning starts working.

That's true. Because now we got to come talk to people we love. Yo, dog, why you pulling a gun out of me there? Because that starts, you know where that starts? Way before that gun comes out

in that strip club, that starts that nigga, why is 40 grand in your pocket? If we talking about unlearning some of this shit or relearning or getting information that we never had who is there to tell the 21 year old you don't need 40 grand

in your pocket it will attract it will attract something XXX rest in peace when he died he had the bike money he had the bike money in his pocket he was just going to buy a bike didn't buy it still had the money on him ah ah uh now you got to try and get home with this money on it's not worth it is all it's not worth it is all and if we love this kid which apparently a lot of people do and he's got a bright future and he makes hits in his sleep and all of these things are true, then come on, man. What the fuck?

What the fuck? Enough of this. I can't keep reading this and be like, oh, hip-hop, hooray. I can't hip-hop hooray through this. When hip-hop was hooraying, I didn't read this every second.

Sorry to be all serious, but I mean, what the fuck? Every week. Literally. Every week. Not every week. I was about to say every pod. Every pod. You know it's not my bag. Every time we the fuck? Every week. Literally. Not every week. I was about to say every pod. Every pod.

You know it's not my bag. It's every pod. It's every pod. It's every pod. Every single pod. And when you have that understanding, like, granted, I'm jaded. I say it all the time. I am jaded.

Yeah. But when you're as jaded as me, the jadedness comes through with every fucking thing. And for me, it's all rap related three days ago i'm on the internet two chains post a video yo y'all these are all the cars i bought during quarantine he said i know it probably wasn't the smartest decision but these are all the cars i bought oh and the the Lamborghini truck that is not in this. Now, if you're listening,

let me read you the cars. A fan of Roseworth Cullinan, a Roseworth Wraith, a Maybach truck, a Maybach car. He had the Vette. It was a Corvette. There was an oldie but goodie over there.

It's a 70 Chevy or some shit. Can-Am. That was a Corvette. There's a motorcycle, bike over there. And there's the classic. Right there. Yeah, that's a Corvette. New Corvette.

That's the Vette. That's a new Vette. They look good now. Now, I ain't knocking him. I'm not knocking him. 2 Chainz might have $30 million somewhere, and that's what he felt like doing. Awesome. The message, though.

Boy, that was troublesome for me. Me, who don't have a car for a reason. Shit is fucked up. It's a pandemic. Want to be wise with the money? Maybe I don't have as much for a reason shit is fucked up it's a pandemic want to be wise with the money maybe i don't have as much money as two chains cool but what the fuck does this tell the people that don't know no better than as soon as they get a lump sum of money to run out and get some shit that's about to depreciate in two seconds it's a fucking pandemic where are you going where are you driving to you showing me cars that are only made for 6 000 miles a year what are you showing me it don't make sense only in hip-hop do we do we pass down the traditions that don't make no

fucking sense. And again, shout out to 2 Chainz, friend of the show. This is not an attack on him. He maybe can do it. I ain't talking about niggas that can do it. I'm talking about niggas that got to hear it. Nah, that's real. I was talking to one of my homegirls the other day on the phone, and it was like, yo, dog, you remember back in the day when a dude would pull up?

You know, Corey Close, you too. Back in the day, you could pull up with a Lexus. dude would pull up you know you well cory cory close you too back in the day you could pull up with a lexus you could pull up with a bmw like if you pulled up with a gs back and when i was a kid you was the man it was 50 60 grand right now to pull up you gotta spend two hundred thousand dollars girls is pulling up next to you and maserati's looking at you like hey little man like man. Hey, little man. You can't even impress a girl in a hip hop culture with a $70,000 car. That shit is trash. You got to spend 200 grand to pull up.

Only in rap. Only in our culture. Only in our culture. All of this shit. Only in our culture. This is $3 million in cars. Yeah. More than that, man. I was going to say, is three million dollars In cars Yeah More than that

I was gonna say That could be more than that More than that During a pandemic Oh you ain't seen When the garage opened up He had more right outside Yeah but this is just

What he bought During the pandemic He said during the pandemic I know During quarantine I thought he was about To show me one car And just show me his collection

That he had over the years What's some old classic shit That was some investment shit All of this During the pandemic. I understand rappers and our affinity for luxury shit. To do that.

And you gotta show it. And you gotta show it. You gotta show niggas that in a time where, in a pandemic where everybody was losing money. No, you don't. Even now,

I'm not saying you gotta do that. No, no, no. That's part of the overall problem. I hate it here. My bad, wrong word. I'm not saying you have to do that. No, no, no. That's part of the overall problem. I hate it here. My bad. Wrong word. I'm not saying you have to. I'm saying what he's doing is...

Why? Nigga shit. Yeah. Nigga shit. Why? Why do we have to show... We don't have to. It's only hip-hop where we got to show you that we still up when everybody else is down.

You don't see fucking Aerosmith running around doing that? You would only see that on MTV Cribs. Or Chris Hansen. Yeah. Show me Chris Hansen opening up his garage seat because when he was talking about that

40 years... Oh, no, I heard him. Oh, we before, right? Oh, no, I heard him before. Never heard of him. Yeah, no, that's real. I'm sorry to go on that. But no, no, no, no, no.

Because it ties in. I was trying to add. You're 100% right in that, though, Joe. No, it ties in, though, to the guns and the murders and the other shit. It ties in. It's the culture that we champion. They're one and the same. They're one and the same.

It's the shit that we champion. We champion that shit in hip hop. And moving right along. Here we go. Right back to it. We go right to Robert Kraft, though, who has more long money than train smoke. And he can't get a Bentley unless Jay-Z Meek Mills and Michael Rubin buy him a car that he's been wanting he can get a Bentley no he can

but it was like a special edition Bentley that they found for him he still could have got the Bentley he's not prioritizing that though Michael Rubin Meek Mill and Jay-Z sent Robert Kraft his dream Bentley for his 80th birthday? Look at the cars in his thing. A F-150. An old range. A Ford. Think about that, bro. That's a Buick back there. Like you said, that wasn't his priority.

One day I'm going to do an honest podcast. That wasn't his priority. You want to think about that car shit. You can't. Why are they showing this to do an honest podcast. That wasn't his priority. I'll just tell the truth. You want to think about that car shit. You can't. Why are they showing this to me? It's weird. I don't care. Yeah.

The whole world, well, half the world is fucked up. And y'all showing me a gazillionaire getting a car from other gazillionaires and Meek. Something's off with that. I didn't get that. And let me tell you something uh Michael Rubin and Meek I didn't say Hove let's say Hove too Robert Kraft doesn't give a fuck

about this car he don't I'm just looking at the cars in his collection. An Escalade, an F-150, an old range. Oh, they wrote him a card. See, a card is nice. Robert Kraft looked mad that y'all came to Martha's Vineyard.

To get footage to go viral. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't get it. I don't either. When you're 80 years old and you own a Patriots. It's out of my tax bracket, I guess. I don't get it. Nah, I like. When you're 80 years old and you own a Patriots. It's out of my tax bracket, I guess. I don't get it.

Nah, I like the gesture. I think it's a dope gesture. Dope gesture. Hey, my granddad, rest in peace, rest in peace, Willie Budden, God bless his soul. My granddad had a truck, like a gray, whatever type of truck it was for the longest. Then he upgraded and he got a new truck at some point. But we had to force that new truck on him. Then for his birthday, I think it was the 83rd birthday, the family wanted to get him

a car. Oh, my God. He loves his car. He's had that car for so long. He can give that car to my little brother, Steven. We can get him a car. Get him a car. Get him a car.

Man, you want to talk about a nigga that was mad. It was hot, right? A nigga that was mad when they started talking about getting him a car. Get him a car for what? That's what he said. Give me a car for what? I got a car. I got a car now. I can't drive he said. Give me a car for what? I got a car. I got a car now.

I can't drive it. I don't get in it. I don't go anywhere. My back hurt. Is he crying? Who, Robert Kraft? He started crying. He read the card and started crying.

Well, that's a nice car. What car? He wasn't crying. It said something like you're 80, you look 40, and you act 25. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, I got nothing else on that one. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, I got nothing else on that one. I'm cool.

I'm cool on this. Mic check, mic check, mic check. I am so excited. I am ecstatic right now. Now, listen. We have a very special guest in the building. A fucking king. A legend.

An icon. In my own mind. A legend. An icon. In my own mind. And ours. And ours. I received an email not too long ago that asked me if I wanted to have this gentleman who was a part of so many important

moments in my life that I instantly said you fucking bet out. You fucking bet out, take him. So let me hit the round of applause for one of my favorite television people of all time. You guessed it. Chris Hansen is in the building.

Double applause. Double applause for fucking Chris Hansen. Are you kidding me? Thank you, Joe. Chris, first of all. All right, applause. A little long applause. Enough already.

He's not that great. Chris, first of all, thank you for coming. Joe, thank you. I really appreciate it. No, it's cool to be here. Man. Parks. I'm sitting next to Chris Hansen, which probably isn't a good thing.

Don't pretend like it's the first time, Joe. Or was that night in Cincinnati? Now, Chris, what are you doing here? What are you doing here? I've been going through some transcripts. I see that you go by the secret screen name, JoJo. 6969. No, I don't have any secret screen names.

But Chris, you are like the first cancel culture. That's who you are. Okay. That's an interesting way. He is the good one. Yeah, the good one. He's the good one. When we had no idea, we had no idea. Chris and his team were in that, they had his team in Video Village, whatever room that was back there,

and they were just Googling nasty pedophiles. Well, you know, how it started was not as a whole series or thing on its own, but it started as me pitching a segment for Dateline. And I had heard about this online watchdog group called Perverted Justice. And they would go online, pose as 12, 13, 14-year-old kids. And if an adult hit on them, had a sexually charged conversation and made a date, they would post that person's picture on their website. Some were arrested, some were prosecuted. I started to think, well, if we person's picture on their website. Some were arrested, some were prosecuted. I started to think, well, if we could use their ability as decoys and combine it with

our ability to wire a house with hidden cameras and microphones, it could be compelling. Okay. And so I pitched it, and a bunch of smart people at the network at the time weighed in, and we did it. As a segment, you pitched this. As a segment. Dayline is already one of my favorite shows as well. Okay, so a segment. Segment.

And they loved it. Well, it was interesting. So I'm driving out there, and the first one was in Bethpage, Long Island, just outside of New York City. And I'm caught in traffic on the Throgs Neck Bridge, and I start to think, what if nobody shows up? What if I've just wasted tens of thousands of dollars of the network's money? And then my producer, Lynn Keller, calls and says, where the hell are you?

We've got two guys scheduled to be here in 45 minutes. And it was nonstop. 17 guys in two and a half days showed up at that house. And it surfaced in that investigation, including a Brooklyn firefighter. Wow. Jesus. 17. 17.

They couldn't wait. No. And we had two guys show up at the same time. We had, you know, the first guy comes in, and I'm just trying to keep my heart in my chest, you know, because I've done a lot of spontaneous, edgy interviews over 40 years. But, you know, this is the first time we set something like this up. So the first guy comes in. We do the confrontation.

And he walks away. The police weren't involved in those first two investigations. So they left. I had security you know so we were protected so he leaves second guy comes in same thing

pretty interesting third guy comes in at this point the transcripts are piling up they're all screwed up on the table I get the wrong transcript I go out

it says here you wanted to do this that and the other thing to a 14 year old girl named Beth no it's not me excuse me a 12 year old named No, that's not me. Excuse me.

A 12-year-old named Sue. No, that's not me. Sorry. A 13-year-old named Lily. Yeah, that's me. Okay, good. We can continue. He's still fine. You're under arrest, creep.

Yeah, we had him. So you pitched this idea. It takes off. It's a huge hit. It runs for how many seasons? You know, originally it wasn't a seasonal thing because it was just a reoccurring segment on Dateline. So we ran original episodes for four years, basically. And then I did it again a few years ago.

And those Predator investigations ran on Crime Watch Daily, a syndicated show that I did at the time. And now we're out shooting new investigations. In fact, we just finished an investigation a couple months ago in Michigan. And once again, we had a guy who was a prison guard surface. We had a guy who was a contractor who did work in the governor's mansion.

We had a guy who used to be a cop in Lebanon. These guys keep showing up. And so we're not doing any new series. This show shouldn't be able to work with your face still is what I'm saying. Joel, I'm telling you. You're recognized. That's what I was getting ready to say. Would you guys say it makes sense?

And because they're all jazzed up to meet this kid, whether it's a boy or a girl, they're already invested by the time they get there. Now, yeah, we had people who would say in these investigations and in law enforcement investigations across the country that, is this Chris Hansen? Is Chris Hansen there? Is this his team? And they show up anyway. I was just at CrimeCon this weekend

in Austin, Texas, which is... I didn't even know they had a crime... Wait, there's a CrimeCon? There's a con for everything. What is that? Think of ComicCon. Only people who are very much into crime.

Tied to turn investigations, crime investigations, Dateline, ID, you know, all the... That sounds like something you need

to be at, Joe. It's quite something. This is interesting. Do they have like a lot of spy gear and stuff? Not quite so much that, but they did have a lot of people

who just are genuine and followers of crime stories. And it was like, you know, overwhelming a little bit. I did two presentations. I did one on journalism in the broadcast digital age and one presentation on predators specifically with a commander from an Ohio task force that looks into this. And I had been invited a number of times, couldn't make it, didn't do it last year because of COVID. And so this was the first year I could do it.

And it was just really overwhelming. And people really are into this space. And I think why it connects with people is, or at least my credo here is, what I try to do is take the viewer on a journey of discovery, whether it's sexual predators or whether it's financial predators or any other crime or enterprising story, investigative story, and let them see things they wouldn't normally see and hear things they wouldn't normally hear. And I think that's fascinating to people. Yeah, I think it's like a puzzle for people. They get to try to figure out the problem themselves.

You get to be an armchair detective in some ways, and you get to see stuff you wouldn't ever have a chance to see. When you hear the dialogue of an adult talking to a 13-year-old boy or girl, it's upsetting. It's upsetting, and you also get a sense for the grooming process that takes place. When we were kids, the word was, don't talk to strangers. takes place. When we were kids, the word was, don't talk to strangers. Well, the problem today is, while that's still good advice, the guy who's a stranger on Wednesday is going to be

so coddled up to your kid by Friday, they don't even look at him. They're not a stranger anymore. And you read these, I can almost cite them from memory as to how these guys groom kids. But today, don't you talk to strangers?

I was about to say, today- We rely on strangers. Ubers, social media. It's a whole different world. I mean- Instagram, you're talking to strangers. Exactly. And that's how people-

I mean, when we started the predator investigations, we merely had decoys on chat rooms, on AOL and Yahoo. That was it. There was a massive fire in the Bay Area. Yahoo was down. We were out of business in Georgia. We had to stop the investigation. Well, today, I can't even keep up

with the number of social platforms. And each one of those, especially during the pandemic when more kids were online more often than ever before, is an opportunity for a predator to approach a kid. That's scary.

You guys. It's scary for normal people. I watched Chris invite the predators in the home and then chase them up the block. He used to walk out the, hey, Daryl. No, come here. I got some questions for you.

Like, how did that feel, like, being the guy? I know that's part of the show. Yeah. But I assume these people to be dangerous, Chris. Well, I had to grow into it. Well, you're taller than I thought. Let me say that. Yeah, well, I have a bit of a presence, you know,

and I've got security behind me. What people don't often see is, you know, Ronnie Knight, who's got a, you know, the ability to protect me and everybody else in there. Sure. Fortunately, we've never had to, you know, resort to that. But the reality is I think these guys are so stunned and they're so blinded by the drive to fulfill this fantasy that they think is going to be fulfilled when they come to this house.

And in many cases, we have an on-site decoy, you know, 18, 19-year-old kid who looks younger, theater student, police cadet, something like that. And they have this, and you see them go in for the hug, and it's the creepiest thing. And then I walk out, and the guy's like, oh, wait, what? And at first, is it the mad dad? Is it the cop?

Is it Chris Hansen? They don't know. I've got the drop on these guys. I mean, really. I mean, imagine that. Imagine what's going through your mind if you're on the other end

of my withering... Yeah. And you just come out so nonchalantly, hey. Well, but... Chris is the man. How are you?

Have a seat. Sit on down. Anybody can jump out of the back room or from behind that curtain or the bushes and create 10 seconds of dramatic...

Well, now that you mention... No, no. I'm not surprised. Well, now that you mentioned it. No, I'm just kidding. We don't want to surprise you. So the key here, my goal is to get inside this guy's head and have him talk to me. And so it's a bit of a cat and mouse game because I will get tough on the guy. But at first, I want to hear what he has to say. And more often than not, these guys will talk to me. They'll come clean, at least partway.

And I don't mean to laugh, but this was one of my favorite parts of the show. Whose idea was it creatively to showcase the bag of treats that they would come with? The contents. The candy and the Twizzlers. The bottle walk. Most of it was the condoms. The condoms. Fucking creeps. The beer. The Mike's Hard Lemonade. We went Scotty. Yeah condoms. The beer.

The Mike's Hard Lemonade. We once got an email from one of the manufacturers of the alcoholic soft drink and saying, please don't use our products anymore. It's not the product placement we want. It was a collaboration.

It started with the Predator saying, can I bring anything? but it was a collaboration. I mean, it's, it's started with the predator saying, can I bring anything? And the decoy being playful. And then the police swing in when the police started to do their parallel investigation. Because if you, the decoy asks for something and the predator brings it,

it shows intent. You know, if you, if you ask for that and then you talk about sex, it's intent, you know? So if he shows up with condoms, well, what does that tell you? If he shows up with KY jelly, what does that tell you?

If he's got Mike's Hard Lemonades or White Claws, what does that tell you? Were there ever, and you don't have to answer this if you don't want, was there ever a case where you felt like bad for a guy? You felt like maybe he's not really a pedophile, but you guys, he just fell in the trap? Yeah, I think there have been cases like that. A couple of veterans, Iraqi war veterans, who were jacked up with PTSD.

A couple of the younger guys I felt sorry for. And there were real deep, deliberate discussions about whether these guys should be included. And I handled those guys differently than I would handle just the stone cold creep. So a 19-year-old walks in and he just opens up and tells me about his being overweight and he can't find the right classes to take and he's a piece of shit and he's found himself in this situation and I want to hear that.

I want people to understand what led this guy there but at the same time the fact that he's only 19 doesn't mean anything to me because there's no difference between the harm that 19 year old could cause and the harm a 49 year old could cause. So you tell me what the difference is

and why he should get a break. Yeah, I can. I don't see why. Let me ask, do you internalize this stuff? You know, I get asked that all the time. Like, I would be going home personally sitting down drinking a pint a day.

You know, I've been doing this 40 years. And you got to figure out a way. To compartmentalize? Well, you compartmentalize. People always say, do you ever go to therapy? I say, no, I keep it right down here under the cement cap where it's nice and safe. And I suppose there's a little bit of that.

You know, the great thing about the podcast is I can be a little bit humorous about it. The great thing about doing something like Cameo is I can be humorous about it. And I can't always be humorous in the kind of dark stories I cover. But I like it. I think I'm a fairly funny guy when given the opportunity. So that's a bit of a release. When are you giving the opportunity? No, it's the voice, though.

No, it's the voice. You'll be talking to him. But at the end of the day, you've been on stage your whole adult life. Had fans. Lots of them. I mean, you know, hit records. That's a big deal. And so you deal with that, and

what I've found is that I can escape by being a regular guy, drive my car, and go into Costco. We're very lucky because we have an apartment in New York City and a home in Michigan. Both Gabriel and I are from Michigan.

So we have that change up. Seven mile? Just north of there. Just a wee bit. Just a wee bit. But I was a reporter in Detroit for 10 years. I grew up there and was a reporter there for 10 years before I came out to New York City. Oh, you got your start there? Well, I got my start in Lansing when I was at Michigan State.

Got it. And then I went to Tampa. And then I went to Detroit for 10 years. So I know Detroit pretty darn well. Just 40 years, every time you say that. How do you think I feel? No, listen, man. There's some acclaim.

There's something that goes with that, to be able to do something at the top of your field for 40 years. It was just a long time. Well, I was lucky. Look, in those days, Joe, you could get a break when you were younger. So I was at Michigan State. I lived a mile and a half from where Hoffa was kidnapped. So I got bit by the bug at 14, 15 years old.

I used to ride my bike up there. So I knew when I went away to college what I wanted to be. So I signed up for the college radio station. And I did that. And I went on from there to commercial radio and was lucky in my senior year at Michigan State to get a job as a television reporter for the NBC station making $4.95

an hour. But it was all the city council meetings and fires I could cover. So when I graduated I already had a job in the industry. And so fires I could cover. $4.95. So when I graduated, I already had a job in the industry. Sure. Right? Yeah.

And so what more could you want? Right. Really. You know, covering the state capitol, eventually anchoring the Saturday News.

I mean, it was, you know. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. What more could you want? That's true. Right. You know,

and all I ever really wanted to do is become a reporter for Channel 7 Action News in Detroit and report to Bill Bond's Anchorman. So he was looking for trouble. Yeah.

No, not now. He was looking for smoke. But the rest of it was gravy to me. It's opportunity and hard work and a little bit of luck. My two sons are in the business. One lives in Brooklyn. He's into television production, film production, commercials. And he likes being behind the scenes.

The other one's a reporter for the Fox station in Oklahoma City, and he's working his way up. So, you know, to look back, you know, as you said, 40 years, and see the changes in the business from when I started to watching these guys start, it's really stunning. I mean, I had videotapes that were that big. And I had to edit, you know. You know, Connor, who started Traverse City, Michigan,

he shot his own stuff, and at the end of the day, he'd sit in a Starbucks with a laptop and send it in. And order a latte. Yeah, exactly. What was the difference in, if you don't mind me asking, the business when you pitched the segment versus when it became a full-fledged

show? Well, it's interesting because we did the first story. And I think it was two parts or three parts. And it sat on the shelf for a minute. And one of the executives on the show said, you know, I just... They knew what they had. They knew it was important. They knew it was big.

They knew it was good. They knew it was different. Groundbreaking. But they had a hard time getting their arms around it. Because I'd lived in it, I had less of a hard time. The executive said to me, I just don't know how to promote it.

I was getting antsy about getting this thing on TV. Because word was getting out behind the scenes in the industry. If we didn't do it, somebody else would do it. That was going to kill me. So I said, here's how you promote this story. There's a man on your back porch with his penis in his hand, and he wants to stick it inside your daughter.

Tonight, we're going to show you how to prevent that from happening. And everybody went silent. They said, Hans has finally lost his mind. He disrespected a senior executive at the network. And the light bulbs went on. I said, all right. And that's what we did. Wow.

And it aired that September. I got a question regarding the CrimeCon. In your experience, and even if it's not your experience, do you think that the obsession with crime docs and stuff is as big anywhere else as it is in the United States. I do. And I say that because we have a huge audience all around the world. The UK.

Okay. India. I get emails just on the podcast from all over the world. And the UK is big in terms of fandom. I know the two series that are out now on Discovery+, the Onision in real life that I did and came up with and it developed from the YouTube channel. And Unseemly, the Peter Nygaard story,

Discovery+, is now available overseas in India and people are just eating it up. Oh, wow. So I think it's a worldwide phenomenon. But, yeah, it started here. But the U.K. has always been big in crime stories. Yeah, but they're big. In fact, ITN, which is the private network version of BBC,

that was my production partner for a show we did three years on ID called Killer Instinct. Okay. I love Killer Instinct. They're very much into it, yeah. This guy's nuts. This is his thing. I love Crime Doc too.

Joe's going to Crime Con. I'm Mr. Crime Doc. Joe's going to Crime Con next year. If there's something where someone was murdered and we have to figure out how to find the killer. Yeah, you're right.

That's my thing. American Greed, I like a lot. Yeah, that's a good series. Oh my God, I love it. What are some of your favorite, are you into this crime stuff? Greed, I like a lot. Yeah, that's a good series. Oh my God, I love it. What are some of your favorite, are you into this crime stuff? I am, I am.

Mayor of East Town, I mean, watch it. I know it's your job. Yeah. You know what I got into this year for the second season in a row is City on a Hill

with Kevin Bacon. Oh, I've been meaning to watch that. It's a showtime, right? It's really, and again, it's basically a story about Boston

in the early 90s and Kevin Bacon's an FBI agent, kind of a rogue FBI agent and there's a DA. It's always a rogue FBI agent in the early 90s and Kevin Bacon's an FBI agent kind of a rogue FBI agent and there's a DA it's always a rogue FBI agent he's right up there and it's always Kevin Bacon

and it's just I love him I think one of the reasons he's genius in it number one but number two I was a reporter in Detroit

in the early 90s and I knew characters just like that I drank with characters just like that I smoked cigarettes with characters I got tips from characters just like that. I drank with characters just like that. I smoked cigarettes with characters. I got tips from characters just like that.

And so it just really resonated with me. I just thought it was pretty good. You'll not be disappointed. I'm sure not. So now, crime podcasts are and have been all the race. Right, yeah. And this is for like years now. With Serial and just too many of them for me to name.

Did that play any part in some of the thinking behind turning this iconic show into a podcast? Because when the show left, right, I was one of the fans that was saying, well, why is this leaving? I love this. Yeah, same here. That was a ritual. That was a ritual. And I'll be able to tell you in a couple weeks where the new TV series is going to end up. But we've got the sizzles done.

We'll be watching. We're out there selling it and pitching it, and we'll be out there. And like I said, we've already shot some of the interviews. Yeah, because there's still pedophiling out there. Oh, yeah. More than ever. They're worse. But on the podcast, I had danced with a couple of different ideas and agents pitching this and that

and this kind of podcast. And it would be like, you know, once we figured out what it was, it was like, Oh, somebody already did that. And so finally, you know, I got together with my current producers, Steve Cohen and Joe Garner. And I said, let's just do what we know, what we know people want, at least out of this particular podcast, which is predators I've caught. And so I dig back into these cases and just basically immerse myself in one of them. Or I will interview somebody like a decoy, on-site decoy, which we did last week, Casey Morrow.

And we catch up with them and how this impacted their life and find out where that predator is today. And we found some amazing stories. So the fellow who's on the episode that just dropped, he shows up at our house in Ohio knowing that he's going to go to prison that Thursday. He shows up on a Sunday night knowing he's going to prison that Thursday for getting caught in another sting operation. And all the while, the police are investigating him

for sexually assaulting a female relative who was 10 years old. And so because he got caught in our sting, where we had a parallel police investigation, he gets nabbed on all three. So as opposed to going away for 11 months, he goes away for 10 years. Good. And he's out now. And so we not only take you behind the scenes

of what was going on leading up to this particular guy walking in. We show you his new address so you know where to stand away from. Exactly. Well, he's a registered sex offender. But we found some amazing postscripts to these cases. And I really, you know, I just immerse myself. I mean, I relive it. I get into it.

You know, some of it's just me intercutting with some of the sound from the original investigation, and people seem to like it. So what's your experience with the people that have gone to jail and maybe come out for some of these crimes? Is there a path of reform? Do they thank you? I've never been really thanked. There was one guy in Fort Myers that said,

thank you for the kick in the pants, and off he went. I don't think he really was thankful. Especially after the Fort Myers police tackled him. Some of them seem like truly, I don't want to use sick because that's a bad word. Well, it's true. You're right. No, no, it's a sickness,

but some of them almost seem relieved when you would come out. You're exactly right. I'm getting caught. You're exactly right. You follow me? Absolutely. I think some of these guys have gone straight and not gotten into trouble again. I think, and I'm not a therapist, but I've talked to a bunch of them about this particular situation.

And I think they break down into three different categories. I think they're the heavy hitter who, with or without the internet, would be offending. He'd be the bad little league coach, the scout master, the guy hanging around the theater or the playground. Can't fix that guy. You've got to lock him up forever. You've got the younger end of the spectrum, 20, 21, socially inept,

sees somebody who's 14. Well, it's wrong. I know it's wrong. But I can really harm this, But I can mentally control them. But I can really harm this, but I can figure it out. And then you've got this guy in the middle who has a predisposition for this, but wouldn't necessarily act out on it without the internet,

the addictive nature, the 24 access, and the anonymity where these guys start saying stuff that they wouldn't say face-to-face. So suddenly it normalizes this sexually charged conversation with a 13 or 14-year-old kid, and they cross this line between reality and fantasy, and they're knocking on our door. And that's the more vexing problem to fix. You can take all things created equal, a 21-year-old who isn't mentally warped, and say, look, you're on probation.

You're going to have to register as a sex offender for X number of months. And if you do this again, we're going to lock your ass up. The other end, lock them up forever. In the middle, not so easy. Case by case basis. And the reality is, it's not like cosmetic surgery, this practice of medicine. It's not glamorous. Who goes to medical school, graduates with $100,000 of debt and says, oh, you know what? I want to spend my life working for the U.S. Marshal in federal

pediatries with groups of sick, twisted, sexual predators. People do exist. People do it and they do a fine job and thank God for them. But it's not a glamorous aspect of medicine. And so we have very much a lack of treatment. And there's a lot of research worldwide. But it's, you know, what are you going to do if you're a doctor? So speaking to the research and speaking on you saying that you believe some of them have a predisposition, what do you say to the new wave of people that say you can be born with an affinity for children? Because they're making a plea now to include them as a sex group, right?

Yeah, I don't buy into that. I think that was a children's need to be. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. No, they're really trying to make it an accepted. How can we make it even creepier in here? Yeah. No, what you're saying is right. Because he's saying some people have a predisposition for it.

And I think that's crazy. You think it's crazy? I think it's crazy that we are entertaining, legalizing this quote-unquote predisposition for children. I don't think anybody is seriously entertaining. And I think there's a fringe group of pedophiles who would like to see this happen a la NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association, which was pretty much run out of existence until the advent of the internet and then brought it back in. What's the name of it? NAMBLA. It's horrible.

Bad, horrible humans. Oh, my God. That's crazy. horrible humans oh my god that's no i literally like they had a big big rally in cali i think not too long ago i was reading where they were trying to get it legally brought in as a like a group yeah that's not gonna happen not as long as i'm twitter i appreciate it i appreciate it fighting that good fight here's a lighter question for you that may not make any sense, but just follow me. Law and order, SBU. You know how sometimes they reenact like real cases, real shit, real things going on.

And sometimes there's cameos. I've always thought that there should be a Chris Hansen cameo on SBU. Doesn't make sense. They did a segment. They did a show that was based upon the Predator investigations. The show, yeah. But it was not actually Chris Hansen. Now, I can tell you that when my boys were in high school,

to have a father on TV was not that big of a deal. They went to a high school, East Coast, with kids whose dads were musicians and TV guys and sports guys and captains of industry in Wall Street. But when South Park did a Chris Hansen Predator episode, suddenly I was the coolest dad around. I made it.

That's hilarious. Have a see. And they don't tell you they're going to do you before they do it oh really so I'm in San Francisco on a shoot on an unrelated story

and one of my agents texts me and says South Park's too neat and it's pretty funny and about 20 minutes later it's taking a dark turn have a seat I'm Chris Hansen

earlier I was telling these guys, we were having a conversation, we were talking about sports commentators. Playoffs are on. And I was saying, wow, some of these people that aren't sports commentators at all are really changing the game in sports commentating. And I feel like that kind of applies

to journalists and personalities as well right so do you find yourself now coming into a space where you and all of your credentials your schooling and your wealth of information now has to compete against maybe somebody who just decided to pick up a microphone and read a newspaper and give his opinion on it. Like, do you feel any of that at all? It's an excellent question because obviously with the explosion of digital media platforms, there is a lot of that. And there is no set of checks and balances. Anybody can get on and say whatever they want. And that's both the beauty and the curse of YouTube

and all the other social media platforms. The New York Times, Tom Friedman had a great op-ed piece about having to teach, you know, civics in a whole new way to a whole new generation. Because just because it's on Twitter doesn't mean it's true. Right. Just because it's on YouTube doesn't mean it's true. YouTube allows predatory behavior, bullying,

sexual inappropriate content on a daily basis. In fact, the Onision in real life series that is currently on Discovery Plus grew out of my coverage of the Onision story. Onision is a YouTuber who is essentially, you know, the Jeffrey Epstein of YouTube and was accused of all kinds of impropriety. He was very popular very early in YouTube, made a ton of money, and then started to use his power as a predator, essentially.

So we start digging into this. And to me, YouTube was sort of an experiment. You know, I better get some real estate here. So we started the YouTube channel, Have a Seat with Chris Hansen. Well, one day we wake up, and we've got 350,000 subscribers and 22 million views,

partially because of the Onision investigation. Then we looked into another guy, a musician named Davi Vanity, who's got alleged sexual assault victims all over the country, all over the world. And then we did stuff on the pandemic because we found, look, you can just turn this thing on. So I can have, you know,

from my house in Michigan where we're quarantined, I can have husband and wife doctor team from Brooklyn and Manhattan, a restaurant owner or two, a nurse from University of Michigan, and a guy who's embedded in the emergency task force. Where else are you going to find that on that show by people just having laptops or phones and turning this on and making it happen? The George Floyd case, we covered that. Basically with a setup that's not as sophisticated as this.

And so it's great. And citizen journalists are important. I think so. They bring a lot of information. And I've benefited from that as a journalist. My collaborator on YouTube now, a guy named Wes Most, incredibly creative and helpful. And a lot of my content wouldn't exist without his help.

I say all the time on this podcast, a few years ago when bombs were just randomly going off on 36th street, that was a citizen journalist to say, Hey, everybody stay away from 36th street. There are bombs just going off over here. So yeah, I totally agree with that.

Damn. I damn fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I got another question. If you go ahead,

go ahead. What do you think about, uh, speaking of the internet and all that kind of thing, the Pizzagate conspiracy? That was the one. It's bullshit. Wait.

What? I didn't. What do you mean, Chris? It's conspiratorial QAnon bullshit. You are the last person that can say that. No, but if- He's the guy that asked. No, we have to say it.

He has to investigate it. I have looked into it. I haven't thoroughly investigated it. Did you go to the pizza shop? I did not go to the pizza shop. Oh, didn't you? But I can tell you based upon the way this thing came about, the way it developed, who's pushing it, promoting it,

and it's bullshit. Chris Hansen. I'm just telling you. Chris. I'll stake my reputation on it. Steve. I'm hurting for you Chris I'll stake my reputation on it Steve I heard it from the man himself man Listen Chris can't say that

without going to the pizza place I'm just telling you Listen the guy on Netflix went to the pizza place and went to the back door and tried to figure some shit out Yeah

He didn't come up with anything Well that's my point I can save you the time I can save me the time But it was such an interesting story I know And conspiracy theorists like me well that's fine I like to toy with conspiracy theories

why were they talking about pizza so much in those emails well because they like to eat pizza that's what political operatives do that's the only food available at 2 o'clock in the morning there's a lot of explanation and I get into this I've got friends on all ends and in the middle of the political spectrum.

My conservative friends think I'm a wild-eyed liberal. My liberal friends think I'm, in the best-case scenario, a limousine liberal or a conservative. I mean, I piss everybody off. Everybody hates me when it comes to politics. And I just speak the truth, I think, or at least my truth. But what has happened in the last six, seven years in this country, I mean, partly because of the internet,

partly because somebody can gin up a misinformation campaign so quickly that can get legs. Tell me about it. Who's going to want to gin up a campaign against me, you would ask. I don't know. Maybe a predator-like guy who was nervous about me coming after him.

Had some money. Who had a toolkit from Google. Right. Who was afforded that toolkit way early in the YouTube age because he was making millions of dollars for himself and YouTube.

And he gets other guys to buy onto this because the way you make money on social media is clicks and clout. And they don't give a rat's ass some of these people. Yeah. Whether it's true or not. And they don't give a rat's ass some of these people.

Whether it's true or not. If they can invoke my name, it's a guaranteed... Or mine. Or yours. Yeah. Sure. You've been there.

Any public figure who is trying to do anything of any import has been targeted. That's true. Yeah. No question for you. Remember where you heard it first. That's breaking. Yeah. No question for you. Remember where you heard it first.

That's breaking news. Right here on this pod, Chris Hansen is still shopping at Wayfair. That's what I was just getting ready to ask. He bought a dresser named Trevor. You just beat me to it. We looked into that. I mean, how could you not?

I mean, how could you not? I mean, how could you not? You know, I mean, it was because it was, it made the rounds. I looked into it. How'd you look into it, man? I made calls to my people in the human trafficking business, and I ran down some of the- Oh, yeah, because you have to have, like, plugs. I've got people everywhere, you know? I mean, 40 years in this business, I've got people who've retired gone back in and have kids now

doing that job in investigative work I'm into the second generation on this so nothing nothing came of it no and the problem is

and they have some odd names I know they do there's some odd names for a dresser and then they'll show a picture

of $10,000 dresser I had this discussion at home and everybody had me all wound up you gotta look into this dad you gotta look into this, Dad. You got to look into this. The younger kids are saying, you got to look into this. You're my dad out of brotherhood, too.

You could have been my neighbor out of brotherhood, too. That's what happens. We ran it down and there just wasn't nothing. The human trafficking advocates who I know get upset about that stuff because it takes attention away from the real world.

Or some of the validity away from the actual issues. I can see it. Just like pizza games. Like commercializes the stuff. But I mean, here's my rule. The one you don't run down is the one that's real. I'll give you an example. So 2015, 2016, I meet with a bunch of guys in Florida who are in on the

Epstein he has the best story verse voice in the fuck he does no no he does like Stacey Keene no he does or Keech and Keech yes so these guys lay out a pretty convincing case that you know Epstein now out of the county jail for that year doing a sentence on the plea deal, is back up to it again. He's doing this stuff. But it's a very well-protected situation. And I tried for several months to figure out a way to do a sting operation at the mansion on the Upper East Side. And I couldn't figure it.

I couldn't work it. I couldn't make a television. And quite honestly, I got busy with other projects. And so I set it aside. It was the Miami Herald and its reporters who kept chipping away, chipping away, chipping away, and got these very brave survivors to speak out. And that is what led to the federal prosecution in Manhattan.

And the U.S. attorney at the time said so much. So the lesson to me is, okay, it's fine that we are on the forefront of the Peter Nygaard investigation, also the biggest predator I've ever investigated. And this case is mind-blowing. Peter Nygaard? He's the one who did the unseemly investigations. He's a multi, multi, multi-millionaire fashion designer. And every pair of jeans you bought at Dillard's and many other places was Nygaard fashions.

Office on Broadway, office in Winnipeg, office in L.A. So it turns out that over a period of 50 years, he's victimized perhaps thousands of women. Some of them as young as 10, 11, 12, 13 years old in the Bahamas where he has this major compound. Looks like something out of Jurassic Park. These makers will keep a compound. Listen, I was going to talk about it. I was coming with him. That's my next question for him.

I was in St. Thomas in December, and you're on a boat, and they'll show you right there is St. John. Yeah. You can't get off the boat without somebody greeting you at the shoreline, like, hey, hey, hey, what are you guys doing here? Got it. Like, they have the island on smash. But he had this compound

and so this guy was such a predator that according to investigators he would actually drug and rape these girls. In some cases purposely get them pregnant. Have them get abortions, harvest the stem cells from the fetuses and inject them himself. What?

This is real? This is real. This is in the story. It's on Discovery Plus right now, Unseemly, The Peter and I. Another one of my favorites. Can we stop the podcast and go watch that right now? This is crazy. Get ready to be seen.

Discovery is the shit, man. I'm telling you. I mean, that's Discovery Plus with the streaming stuff. I think that's where I'm going to do a lot of my stuff. You're going to go watch that? I'll pass. I'm definitely going to watch that. I know you're going to watch it.

I lived it. No, I don't want to. That's insane. A few more names I have for you. Sure. We don't have to discuss them, but Woody Allen. What do you think of him? You know, I've watched some of that documentary.

It's a good one. And it's really good. And I just have to preface this by saying I've not personally investigated as a reporter that case. I've watched it. I missed it by a couple of years. I came to New York in 93. A lot of what went down was 91, 92. I watched it.

Yeah, you was right around the time. I was sneaking up right behind it. And so I really didn sneaking up right behind it. Right. And so I really didn't ever report on it. Based upon what I see, what I know, you know, from talking to people in that world, it sure doesn't smell right.

Now, can you prove something went on between, you know, the daughter at a young age and Woody Allen? I don't know. The case is so mired in controversy. One side says one thing. The other side says another. Is it creepy that you marry your stepdaughter? Well, I'll let you be the judge on that. Yes.

The answer is yes. So, you know. I vote yes. You know, had that happened in 2018, I think it would be a different story. I didn't mean to cut you off, Chris. No, no, no. But it's not so much just the marrying of the stepdaughter. It's the planning that seemed to go into that. And I didn't investigate this either, Chris.

I'm going just off what I've seen. Right, but if you just take a look at the normalization of sexual attraction to somebody who's underage, you saw the theme in some of his movies. You saw the theme in his life. And then you think, okay, this guy made some good movies,

unquestionably. He was the darling of the New York media because of those movies, because he played jazz at the club, because he did all that stuff, and because he was Woody Allen. And he had adult relationships and adult friends. People loved the guy. And so the question, I think,

and the New York Times raised this itself in an op-ed piece, was did he get a pass because he was Woody Allen? And would he have gotten a pass had all this happened in the Me Too movement? I doubt it. No, he would not have. No, he wouldn't have.

I can't imagine. No, if that happened today, I can't see that. But it's interesting you say that. I did want to ask you, how much of pedophilia do you attribute to American culture and just American history? Well, I think you have to be careful, Joe, with the word pedophilia. Pedophilia is a medical term where it's got a medical definition. And so there's that. Essentially what it is, without having the medical

book in front of me, it's an adult attraction to a child who is prepubescent, essentially. Predatory behavior can be a lot of things. And that's why it's to catch a predator versus, or handsome versus predator versus, you know, handsome versus pedophile. So, it all mixes together. I think it's the same exact question if you substitute the word with predatory.

Probably so. Probably so. But I think, you know, the question is, can it be you're born with it, or can you No, I'm saying. This question is, do you think that American culture feeds the potential? Well, I think there's the glamour. Or American history.

Well, I think there's a glamorization of it when you look at cuties. You know, I must have gotten a thousand contacts on social media. Look into cuties. Cuties is, you know, glamorizing. That was the Netflix thing, yeah exactly and and i watched it and you know i wasn't comfortable with i didn't like how they marketed it no no not i don't think it was illegal i don't think it was child porn but i didn't like it you know i didn't think it you know i think it doesn't contribute to that behavior i think it could um you know we walk a fine line with censorship in this country.

You know, we want everybody to have free speech. Nobody will fight for your right to say whatever you want more than I will. I've made my living because of the First Amendment. But some stuff you just know is wrong. And I think there's some stuff out there that glamorizes inappropriate sexual, the sexualization of children. I agree. It's nuts.

Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself? I believe that the He's getting you in trouble here. That the medical examiner No, I'm cool. You can't trap him up. This is 40 years of genius. I believe

He's got this. I can dance like nobody's been My father used to say who was in sales in the art industry don't ever try to bullshit a bullshitter. I know this because I'm looking at Steve's face.

Steve ain't worried. He ain't looking over here. He ain't thinking about you. I think the coroner, the medical examiner, made an appropriate ruling that it was suicide. I think people made a lot of the particular injury to his neck that was only consistent with suicide 25% of the time, but still 25% of the time. Now, what bothers me about that is that how are you locked up as a high-profile inmate in a federal holding facility in Manhattan and have this go down what was apparently a second attempt,

and have him not being watched, the camera being out. Now, by every account, the MCO was understaffed, in bad shape, and all the things we know about for the reporting on it. But to me, it raises questions about, okay, in the best case scenario, it was dereliction of duty. In the worst case scenario, did somebody get paid to look the other way or, more diabolically, get paid to be a part of something that wasn't a suicide? I don't have any information that makes me comfortable saying it was not a suicide. But because of the way it went down, it's going to leave this question open-ended for the rest of time.

Right. And because we know he was well-connected. We know the FBI and law enforcement has pictures from the safe in the mansion of notable people engaging in bad behavior. I can't tell you who and I can't tell you what exactly they're doing, but there are important people doing bad things with girls who are of questionable age. Epstein was famous for skirting the age limit. That's why that case was a little difficult to prosecute. That's why they end up going with human trafficking. Because some of the girls were of legal

age to consent. But the way it went down was horrible trafficking. Got it. And so I think, you know, in the early stages of the investigation, the first time they got him on the plea bargain, I think there were questions, and because some of the young women received money. But again, like most predators, he preyed on the most vulnerable.

Just like Onision on YouTube, just like Dobby Vanity in the music world, just like Peter Nygaard in the fashion world. These guys have a sense and a feeling of impunity that because they have money, they can get away with this stuff. In the Bahamas, Nygaard bought everybody off. He had the prime minister at his daughter's wedding. They were sending money, according to witnesses, In the Bahamas, Nygaard bought everybody off. He had the prime minister at his daughter's wedding. They're sending money, according to witnesses, jamming frozen fish with money and sending them to officials.

That's how he got away with it. What got Nygaard caught, and watch the series to get the full effect, but he was living next door to another wealthy guy, a billionaire named Louis Bacon. They got into a beachfront battle over property. And as that civil battle continued, Bacon's guys got wind of all this horrible behavior on the part of Nygaard and his criminal culpability. And one of those guys was hired to do it. He had enough money. He wins the property. He wins the property debate.

No, he had enough money now to bring us in. That's his backyard now. Right. Suddenly I'm sitting in a meeting, you know, and I get this information. And that starts a two-year reporting effort to put this thing together. That's what it did. Two years of part of my life to put this thing together as executive producer and somebody who was doing interviews and a reporter on it.

And it was worth it, but it was a heavy lift. I mean, New York Times, we weren't the only ones. New York Times did a lot of reporting on it. CBC up in Canada did a lot of reporting on it. But ours, I think, I believe, was the quintessential series on it. And we got lucky along the way, too. You have to a little bit. I mean, you know, I get a call from a guy I know in the world of human trafficking,

and he says, hey, what's that story you're working on with the billionaire, millionaire, whatever he is? He's the predator. I said, Peter Nygaard. He goes, oh, yeah, you could call this lawyer. He represents Nygaard's videographer for three years. He's got every videotape you ever shot of him for three years, hundreds of hours.

And the guy did the right thing, shared them with us, didn't even ask for money, and did an interview for the piece. So now we've got not only the interviews with the victims that we did, some of which I did down in the Bahamas. We've got the victims in the United States. But we've got these videotapes with the private jet and the stripper pole and the paper parties they used to call them and the stem cell visits in Asia. I mean, crazy stuff.

And that's something we've got all this. I'm going to go back to Isha's question that your genius just blew by. Because the more I hear you speak, I'm not going to allow it. Anthony Bourdain's doc is coming next month. Mm-hmm. Right? Anthony Bourdain traveled the world. Yeah.

Chappelle said it. Beautiful food. Yeah. But the more I think about that Chappelle joke, well, it's not a joke. Yeah. It wasn't a joke.

No, I know. But why I bring that up to you is exactly what Chappelle said. Anthony Bourdain ran around eating shit, looking at the most beautiful places in the world. But I'm assuming because of what he consumed,

it just got dark sometimes. Chris, I'm listening to you reel off Predators names by heart, their story by heart. I do believe that you really love and have a passion for this. So I think it's ingrained in you. But some part of you has to take your job home. Yeah. Some part of you has to tell your kids,

you have kids, you have to tell your kids, Dad needs an hour. I need an hour. I can't help with the homework right now. I've seen too much today. I have too much on my mind. Everybody in your life can't understand that.

You've been... No, but I, you know, listen, we all go through our phases, Ryan. But you've had a 40-year disappointment. That's not a phase in your life. It's a human race disappointment. I get it. It's the best question I've been asked, and it's also, in some ways, the most difficult to answer honestly, because I'd like to stay above the fray and not admit that I would be vulnerable to any of that or any unhealthy coping mechanisms. True. This is a men's health. No, I get it. And

it's important to have these discussions. And it's, and you know, one of my sponsors on the podcast is, is Talkspace, you know, Talkspace. Yeah, exactly. So I'll probably do it for another reason than because I think it's good for people to do, and I may benefit from it. I'm not suffering from any PTSD that I'm aware of, but honestly, I have a way of separating my life and cutting the lawn and going to Costco and smoking beef. But did you always have that? No, I didn't always have that. So that was acquired around a year what?

Did you feel like, okay didn't always have that. So that was acquired. It was acquired. Around a year what did you feel like, okay? Really acquired that piece, like really two years ago, three years ago, probably three years ago. That's an amazing, honest answer. Wow. And I was not a maniac or anything. I'm not copping out to be having severe issues or anything. I mean, you talk to my kids.

We had fun. We went skiing. We did all this stuff. Dad went to the games. And, you know, yeah, sometimes he wasnvere issues or anything. I mean, you talked to my kids. We had fun. We went skiing. We did all this stuff. Dad went to the games. And, you know, yeah, sometimes he wasn't around because he was in India investigating child slave labor. But, you know, generally, I was always present. We did a lot of cool stuff with the kids growing up. We do a lot of stuff.

Yeah, I've got stepkids who are 19 and 21. We do cool stuff. And I'm sure the answer to that question changes if you ask him when he thought he had it. When's the first time you thought you... Right. But it's also, look, it's a great time of life for me. I'm 61 years old, right? I can pick my projects.

I can work in the digital world. That money. You talk about it. The freedom. That's the important part. We preach that here. I've been nicked a couple times in life, you about? The freedom. That's the important part. We preach that here. I've been nicked a couple times in life, you know, no question. I mean, I look back and think if I'd done that or done that or kept that house longer or done this or not had a boat or whatever, I could be, you know, sitting higher up.

But the reality is I can look around and honestly tell you that I have just about everything I care to have. The family thing. You keep bringing up your family. So I've got a great relationship. Took a long time The family thing. You keep bringing up your family. So I've got a great relationship. Took a long time to get there. And you bring up your kids. It took a long time to find the right woman. Right?

But I did. And I'm thankful. It took me some time to get centered. You know, as a guy who can put his ego away. I'm waiting to get centered as a guy. And it's, well, you know. It's going to come. Everybody's going to get there, right?

And especially for people who live their lives in the public eye. You know, just because somebody is fawning over you at CrimeCon, that doesn't make you any better than anybody else. No, no. You know, it doesn't, you know, you got to keep it all in perspective. You just got to, you know, you got to go, it's a job, you know. And yeah, there are perks to it. You've got to keep it all in perspective. It's a job. Yeah, there are perks to it.

I've seen... If you had told me when I was in my early 20s that I would see the things I've seen, do the things I've done, and experience the things I've experienced, I would have never believed it. I've had a gifted life. I don't feel that I'm done. I don't think I've done work. I'm certainly not done living.

I heard it. I don't have it now. I let it go by. I had it. If I would have held that house two more years, I heard all of it. And everybody on American Greed has a boat. I had my boat. I enjoyed my boat. But it just doesn't fit into our lives right now. Here's my question to you. You just gave me

a nice long spiel about not being better than anybody. But in hip-hop, there's this new thing called verses where people are putting their uh discographies up against one another right uh all legends and it's all a celebration of the participants right who wins the verses between chris hansen and i think that's tim walsh is that tim walsh. Is that Tim Walsh from America? John Walsh. John Walsh. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. John Walsh, America's Most Wanted versus, come on, come on, who wins? Oh, look at how Chris Hansen's looking at John Walsh like, this peon. I know. No, no, no, no, no, no. I know John very well, and I have nothing but incredible respect. And he does it... And he's amazing.

He's amazing. And I remember I was a young reporter down in Florida right after Adam, his son, was kidnapped and killed. And, you know, I was, I don't know, 22, 23, 22, I guess, at the time. And, you know, it tears at your heartstrings, but you don't know that pain until you're a parent. Or you don't know what that pain could be until you're a parent. And I met him, you know, he was already well-established.

He had founded the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. He had, you know, done some television back and forth. I mean, he's one of my heroes. I mean, he's an icon. And it's a different, he came up a different way, and certainly a much more painful way, you know, having to lose what he lost. And, you know, remember that he and his wife's lives got turned upside down.

They were looking at every little thing they did in the 80s in Florida and people living different kinds of lives. Not that they did anything wrong, but that was a random, vicious, horrible crime. Nothing that John Walsh and his wife could have done would have prevented that. And I wouldn't want to walk in those shoes. And so there's no competition there. John is at a whole different plane because he is not just a television personality, not just somebody who's after bad guys like I do,

but he lived this in a way that I can't even begin to imagine. And he took that motivation and did something with it. Okay, and you just put me in a lot of pain, so let me find someone else that you can have. Versus. What's the cheater's dude name? No, it's not even close. I know.

Question for you. It's not close. With that being said, from John Walsh, a ton of us, right? Like you said, you knew what you wanted to do from really, really, really early on, which is us, right? Like you said, you knew what you wanted to do from really, really, really early on,

which is amazing, right? Do you feel that this was your purpose and your legacy based on the lives that you've helped? Because again, every person that you catch, that helps somebody else. Well, I think so. Or 10 other kids. I don't know that I planned it out that way

in the beginning, certainly. I've had three jobs. I was a know that I planned it out that way in the beginning, certainly. No, I'm saying that. I've had three jobs. I was a baker's apprentice, a drywall hauler, and a reporter. I mean, that's it. He does drywall, too. You haul it or just hang it? I own a construction company.

But anyway, don't listen to this guy. That's some heavy stuff. That was an education in and of itself, only drywall for three summers. Sure. You learn about life fast. Yeah. is not right. You learn about life fast. You learn fast. You learn about life. It's the lowest rung in the construction world.

Yeah. When Lee Arthur Ramsey pulls the front of that double strip 16-foot board and says, don't break my ass, son. You better catch it. That's funny. And you better catch it. And I learned more in those three summers about life than four years at Michigan State University.

Gotcha. That was... Good honest work will do that. That was... And at the end of every summer... In the summers, too. I would have had made enough to pay at least half of my tuition at Michigan State.

Nice. And these guys would all look at me and say, you should be up there pushing pencil and patting something else that starts with a P, and you don't want to be back here after a couple more summers. And these guys, I mean, I'm telling you, smart guys, but came up from the South, didn't quite get into the auto factories right away, and in between, hauling drywall was a way to make good money.

Sure. And, you know, they inherited me one day because my dad knows the guy who owns the company. Knew somebody, yeah. And that's how I got in. And I wasn't making enough money at the bakery. And I had to pay the tuition. And he thought, this will keep him off the streets. They'll beat his ass.

And it did for two weeks. And then I got strong. I'd be assed during the day. Quarter-crown skirt. No, that's amazing. I don't have any more questions. I'm just thankful that you're here. Well, thanks for having me.

Are you in any of this crypto stuff? You know, I play with it just a little bit, not in a big way. I was messing around with one of the kids and bought some doge. Not enough to change our lives or the world in any way, but it's fun to watch. I mean, I guess it's like penny stocks back when all that was going on. But it's, I'm not into it. My oldest son is playing with it more.

You know, the Brooklyn kids are all. I know, I know, I know. And he's done well with it. And he keeps promising that he's going to share his secrets of Bitcoin investment with me, but he has not yet. I got to get him more for dinner. Wow.

You'd think with the son of Brooklyn, you'd see him freely. He's working, doing his own thing. He's chasing around. How old is he? He's 29. Huh? Like a 29, 27. That's when you're ready to go.

You'll never see him again. He comes over to my apartment when I'm not there because it's got central air and washer and dryer on the 21st floor. So he's digging that. I would be so scared to bring company to my dad's house if it's Chris Hansen. I feel like he might pop out a closet. I think he got over that a long time ago. I bet he did.

He's not so scared. He's got a key. Listen, Chris, tell everybody where they can find your podcast, even though it's everywhere that, you know, podcasts are. Podcast is Predators I've Caught with Chris Hansen, Apple, Spotify, every other podcast platform. Check it out. We're into our, I guess, six-month almost, which is shocking, but I think it's going

really well. We're on Discovery Plus with Unseemly with Peter Nygaard investigation. We're Onision in real life, four-part series on Discovery Plus. Predators, we're out doing that, and I'll have an announcement in a couple weeks where that's going to end up on the TV, and we have some on the YouTube channel,

Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, and I'm going to shoot some more content for that after I get finished here, and Instagram is official Chris Hansen, Twitter at Chris Hansen and I'm going to shoot some more content for that after I get finished here. And Instagram is official Chris Hansen. Twitter at Chris Hansen. And Facebook, I've got like nine different pages. Yeah, I'm going to get this Discovery Plus immediately. Yeah, you got to check that out.

Yeah, I'm going in there. Have a seat with Chris Hansen. The content world is happy to have you back. Yes. Thank you. Well, thank you guys. And I love a crime podcast, so I'm into that for sure. Yeah, check that out.

I think you'll like that. I do like them. And it's just Chris fucking Hanson. You know, I was just saying I could watch Floyd Mayweather fight nobody, and it's art. Like, you could just listen to him tell you a story. Yeah. No, you could. I love him.

Yeah, no, tuck me in the bed. Never mind. Chris Hanson, thank you, Steve. Thank you. We'll be checking out this podcast. I'm just so glad he was here. Hopefully, we conducted ourselves. We're on a best behavior.

First rate. First rate. Thank you. All good. Good, good. I hope to never be a guest on your podcast ever, ever, ever. But I wish you luck. That's hilarious.

All right, so they have announced Rolling Loud New York 2021. I'm not going to this shit. I might go. We'll see. Wear a vest. I might go. I do want to see. I'm looking to do a lot of them.

I might have to go. I might have to go. I'm not going, but they 50 Cent on Thursday. Might have to go. I'm not going, but they got everybody in the world here. J. Cole Friday, Travis Scott Saturday. Oh, that's a great show. Special guest Bobby Shmurda. Oh, Bobby Shmurda, special guest. Oh, my God.

That's going to be amazing, and I can't go because I'm afraid. I'm going to play some R&B. I'm going to play a sleeper. Okay. Y'all have rapped me out. Yeah, I'm rapped out, believe it or not. I'm rapped out. I'm so play some R&B I'm gonna play a sleeper okay y'all have rapped me out yeah I'm rapped out believe it or not I'm rapped out

I'm so rapped out I'm not playing current R&B either fuck that I'm smoothing this one out Will Downing to the rescue alright

yeah ease my mind come on Rochelle. What did I do? Rochelle Hell yeah, man. I'm not like you I'm not perfect When he sees I'm not like you. I'm not perfect.

When he sees. Will he leave? Oh, will he stay? Alex, I see you trying to Google this. You don't know what it is. It's all right, nigga. I'm gonna stay I'm gonna stay I'm gonna stay I'm gonna stay I'm gonna stay Oh love, let's go well, talk to these niggas What can I do to deserve heaven now?

You're icing it. Lord knows I'm only you. Can this be Someone truly for me Or is it a cruel fantasy? Nothing has ever felt like this Like this Nothing has ever meant

The whole world to me Nothing has ever in this good Nothing is ever in this right Nothing's so sweet Alright, that's a brand new old music Oh, I can't cut over that. Hold on.

Oh, they going crazy. That's brand new old music. That is Will Downing, Rochelle Pharrell, Nothing Has Ever Felt Like This. Shout out to the old heads, 40 and up. You know the vibes. Google and stream it, Shazam it like Alex did. But, yeah, classic.

You fucking right. Yo, shut up, Alex. Oh, man. Shut up. Yeah, I needed something to simmer things down after. Ice get me riled up with all these niggas. Nah, it wasn't me. It was you. This shit happening, bro.

It wasn't me. It was you. You can't put that on me. You want parks? Yeah, I got something. All right. We'll play something off this Shaw Money XL mixtape, I guess it would

be a compilation that came out this week that's really, really dope. That kind of got overlooked in my opinion. This is Please featuring Lorde Wint and Rain. Talk is cheap so my patience and silence is worth billions Where I'm from all the violence and silence bring hurt feelings Feds taking pictures they documented my first dealings

Broken promises from the plug is what hurts villains I'm still in this game building blocks Rapping about killing cops till they drop Concealing my feelings and feeling shocked Revealing the ills of the pills I popped The dealings I made in the deals that I gave was surreal I swapped, came for change, what's the number? Eleven violence in stranger things

The hell was hot and still I filled the pot With dinner for Custies, this is glass Trust me, must be, cause they keep running back Trying to touch me like I'm the holy one Trying to be blessed, God in the flesh, the only one Protector of the pyramids, who took the shot from Napoleon The Sphinx, I think my drink was pink I bulletproofed the car, so when you shoot

It sounds like, clink, clink I won't even blink or wink You should know that this is only built for Cuban links and minks You should know that I ain't buy this rollie from no greasy chicks Nigga, I pull up and drop heads like a DDT For me, this been easy breeze, ever since the DVDs You know I'm the candy man, let's shoot this in Cabrini green Watch for the hook, this one's for the books

We been bustin' moves, countin' cheese on the block Can you, can you please, please get up off the jock, jock We been in the zone on our own, did a lot, lot Can you, can you please, please get up off the jock, off the jock Plenty things a own did a lot like can you can you please please get up off the job plenty things a nigga did a lot watch your tone and get up off the block can you can you please every time i speak as pleased by warren went and rain on sh Shaw Money's Chain on the Bike Vol. 2 compilation. Which is really dope.

It's a bunch of artists you probably never heard of. A couple of known artists. I was looking at the track list here and I said, okay. There's a lot of heat on there, though. It's nice. We did end up getting us some hip-hop, see? Parks held it down. Hey, man.

I'm not the R&B guy here. I'm not either, but I couldn't do it after this. Mine is a young lady by the name of joella it's called pick it up okay The bars on the goddamn floor Niggas still acting real crazy When you start demanding more More than the bed, minimum More than the last, it's giving up Now I get the label of crazy

Why that shit you call effort is lazy Nigga, if you you slow just say that Can't keep up with that pace nigga stay back Wanna be a hoe nigga be that Either one or the two cause I be that bitch Go and play with your mama To no knees and on a Go and play with me

Get that, pick it up Get that, pick it up Get that, pick it up, get that, pick it up Tell me why the hell I gotta lay a mouth Every single time I gotta read a mouth The guy that makes directions line by line Ain't a damn coach, nigga, ain't got time Ain't got time nigga ain't got time Damn nigga try just damn nigga try Ain't gotta read my mind Nigga if you slow just say that And keep up with the pace nigga stay back

Wanna be a hoe nigga be that Either one or the two cause I be that bitch Go and play with your mama To no knees and on a Go and play with me Yeah, yeah Get that, pick it up Get that, pick it up Get that, pick it up Pick it up, pick it up

Get that, pick it up Get that, pick it up Get that, pick it up Pick it up, pick it up Yeah, that was Pick It Up by Joella. And she just dropped that, I believe, like two or three weeks ago or so. That's dope. I'm not hip to who that is. It's in line of the you know men ain't shit

i stay out of women's business and i just champion their music okay so yeah man i'll stay out of women's business i want no parts of that but shouts to her um videos dope she's dope so is this the one that i'm playing for you nah i was gonna just go To some nigga rap Like Ice I was gonna get my Old school R&B bag But no I'ma just fuck with Some nigga rap MC8

Straight Up Menace You know I'ma owe it Wake your punk ass up For the 93 shot You wasn't outside When this was out This is a society soundtrack You wasn't outside though You wasn't outside I don't think No I was 10 You wasn't outside when this was out. This is a society soundtrack. You wasn't outside, though.

You wasn't outside, I don't think. No, I was 10. I wasn't outside. Yeah, I know. I wasn't outside. Corey was outside on the run. And this goes out to my niggas. Yeah.

A fucked up childhood is right the way I am. It's got me in the state where I don't give a damn. Somebody help me, but no nah they don't hear me though I guess I'll be another victim of the ghetto Ain't no escaping cause I'm way too young Pops is dealing and on top of that got moms sprung Scheming off the top, pops never figured Daddy go down by the hands of another nigga

Now my pops is gone and that ain't no good Got to follow in the footsteps of the homies from the hood And was the role model N***as puttin' boo in my f***in' baby bottle Damn, and through all the motherf***in' pain They done drove my moms insane So I guess I gotta do work so I ain't finished I grow up to be a straight up menace She a Uh Come on y'all

Straight up menace Now I'm up age and living in the projects Getting paid off the clerks and the county checks I'm telling you fresh out of high school Never did I wonder That the motherfucking hood would take me younger Gee I'm kicking it with the homies and they got the straps Off to the corner store owned by the fucking See a bitch in the right lane so I comes with a Mac

Astro Van pulls a motherfucking jack from the back Now he's got the strap to my homie's head Sayin' play the shit cool and don't be a fool He shot my nigga in the fuckin' head I caught one in the shoulder, if I didn't run I was dead Now I'm layin' in the hospital bed Thinkin' about them punk motherfuckers and my eyes is bloodshot red Cheer, motherfuckers, I ain't finished

Be on the lookout for the straight up menace. Cheer. What's up, y'all? Straight up menace. Damn. Super classic-ish. I like it. I like the vibes.

Straight up menace. MC8. Thank you, kind sir. Ooh. Eh? I like it. I like the vibes. Straight up menace. MC8. Thank you, kind sir. You getting your little R&B bag. I ain't gonna lie to you. You getting your little... I do this R&B stuff a little bit, man. Alright, I hope y'all enjoyed us arguing about things.

The pod used to be like an escape from reality, and now it's an escape to reality. And I have to get adjusted with that. Like, you can no longer come in here and talk about all the lighthearted things that take you away from the outside world because the outside world is like too real of a thing now. We're all getting reacclimated, readjusted. We're relearning.

Like, we don't know what's going on out here man i don't know anything's changing coming in i have to talk about death and rap and just all of these ill-advised functions but it's cool though man would you be a happy thank y'all for listening shout out to the last time listeners. We out of here, man. Let's go, Rosie. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.

Until the next time, I bid you adieu, farewell. Hasta la vista. Adios. Arrivederci. So long. Goodbye. Life is a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all that we have there let love decide also last but not least the baddies insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Also, before we go, shout out to Tom Thibodeau, round of applause.

NBA coach of the year. Did he? Coach of the year, yeah. Also, shout out to the Joker. MVP is official. Oh, really? Yeah, he won. Shout out to them.

Okay. Chris Hansen. Shout out to Chris Hansen. Thank you for coming by. He was great. He was. He was awesome. I didn't get to my Trey Young apology, but it's okay.

We'll have time to get there. You're going to keep dancing on Ben and them. Ben and Embi Ben and them beat and them. Let's spell something out, Rosie. To the I, to the A, to the M. Ooh, spell a second half of it. Let's go. O to the N, to the D, to the

F. Alright, we out of here. Y'all hold it down, man. D to the I, to the A, to the M. Right after the drum break. Here we go. No drill button.