The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 462 | "Upper Echelon"

Episode Date: August 11, 2021

Joe mentions his observation of certain people disappearing from social media and shares why he believes people abandon their accounts (38:00). The crew also discuss Governor Andrew Cuomo resigning af...ter sexual assault allegations (57:30), Barry Hankerson being accused of mishandling artists catalogue, De La Soul will be available on streaming services (1:56:00)  and MORE! Become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Tinashe - “Angels” (Ft. Kaash Paige)    Ice | King Von - “I Am What I Am” (Ft. Fivio Foreign)   Ish | Benny The Butcher - “Alone” (Ft. Rick Hyde & G Herbo)    Parks | De La Soul - “Stakes is High”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, speaking of thick, this is the revelation. This is the realization I've come to. Sad day out there. Do I have sad music? I'll play the suspense theme. This is what I realized. My favorite... Let's just start with some...
Starting point is 00:00:15 This is not misogynistic. My favorite body type is dying. It's over. Oh, no. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Why are you doing that? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I mean, they making songs about it because it sound cool in the verse, but they not living it. It's over. They not living the thick life no more? Because she thick. Thick, thick, thick, thick, thick, thick. Think about any conversation you've had
Starting point is 00:00:37 with any thick girl that you know. Okay. They all have plans to get unthick. True. That is true. But it's not as easy as they think no not at all and that's what we're and that's what we're rooting for on the phone that we're rooting for her failure in her body exploration we don't want her to succeed but it's just a sad day like the thighs are leaving like when all the other stuff was leaving it was cool.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Like, go ahead. You want to get rid of titties? Fine. You want to make it way smaller? Fine. You want to get the little back fat and gone lipo marking your neck, your arm. Hey, move it all. The thighs are leaving. Do y'all hear me? Y'all don't hear me? No, you need to. We need thighs.
Starting point is 00:01:23 But thighs can't really leave. I think where they messed up at- Thighs are leaving. They messed up because when they went and started buying the asses, they wasn't buying the thighs. So it was like, can you buy thighs? You can buy anything now. You can get in proportion.
Starting point is 00:01:35 You can buy a little blackhead if you know. That's Madonna. You know them. Who want to buy a little kid? Yo, nah. Yeah, you need that little thigh crease. That thigh crease is the shit. You need a thigh.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You do. Why don't women find this important? They look at other women. They look at what's hot. They look at what everybody is looking at. Shout out to the people with thighs out there, man. Gone but not forgotten. Never. Love Gone but not forgotten Love y'all Love y'all
Starting point is 00:02:09 Alright Let's start this bad boy right Let's fucking pod Let's fucking pod Starting with Mary I was starting with Mary Before I was starting with Mary before I was starting with Mary. Rest in peace to the legend.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Sad news. Horrible day. Hate to open up like this, but this is a celebration of life, of course. Always. A lot of my favorite R&B songs. This man was a huge part of. A lot of my favorite rap songsB songs, this man was a huge part of. I love your rap songs. That too.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Lucky this ain't come on when I was smoking Mary in the two step off. Hey. Uh-oh. They lucky ain't no Mary come on. Rest in peace to the great, to the legend Chucky Mic check one, two, one, two
Starting point is 00:03:12 Shout out to the first and last time listeners We got a hundred degrees out here in New York It's hot as a fuck It's hot out here Shout out to the people going to work getting to it Shout out to the people in happy, healthy relationships. Boy, am I envious of you guys. Keep that shit off the
Starting point is 00:03:30 gram, you heard? How can I love somebody else if I can't love myself enough to know when it's time, time to let... Yeah, yeah, that's all
Starting point is 00:03:47 That's all No, not y'all I needed to hear them out there That's for the audience Some of us Some of us still do it For the audience out there You heard?
Starting point is 00:03:58 We here today So sweet All I really want Is to be happy I wanna be happy It would be so sweet Mic check, one, two, one, two Shout out to this lazy-ass bass line, this genius, oh my God
Starting point is 00:04:24 Let's go to the fade You used to love me I remember the days You used to love me You don't appreciate the time I couldn't let you walk around I couldn't let you get in love with him I couldn't let you walk around
Starting point is 00:04:57 I'm thinking it's alright To let me down I remember I remember I remember the way You used to love me Baby, I remember the way I remember the day You used to love me I'm all for you, la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la- It's Parks. What's happening? It's Parks! You know, Ice is here.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Microphone check. One, two, what is this? This is episode 462. Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host. Here with a few people that are really, really cool. Parks is here. And Ish is here.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Ice is here. Sivan is here. And Alex is here. And those here Ice is here Sivan is here and Eve is here and Alex is here and those are the people that remained and those are the guys still here
Starting point is 00:06:12 you stupid yo you don't like our new jingle? that's what it was that's a jingle house surviving podcasters surviving Joe surviving Joe niggas that can survive Joe are you That's a jingle house, though. Surviving podcasters. Surviving Joe. Surviving Joe.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Niggas that can survive Joe are here. Shout out to the ladies listening. Shout out to the first and last time listeners. Shout out to New York and New Jersey, just because I'm on my New Jersey, New York pride shit still. And there's that. How's everybody feeling? How's everybody doing? Great.
Starting point is 00:06:42 How's your mental health? How's the vibrations? How's the frequencies? What's going on? What's going on? Shit. I missed hearing you guys' How's the vibrations? How's the frequencies? What's going on? What's going on? Shit. I missed hearing you guys' voice. Come on.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It's that four or five day stretch. Come on, give it to me. What you got? I made a run up to state this weekend. Hey. Got my marriage license. Hey. It's getting more and more official. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Clap it up for that, Joe. Come on. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I mean, yeah. So I feel good. None of us ever got one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Clap it up for that. Look at this nigga's face. When we pulled up, when we pulled up, you were sitting outside on the stoop. Yeah, man. I've known you a long time. I never pulled up seeing you sitting outside the stoop. I was like, oh, fuck. The date is getting closer for my guy.
Starting point is 00:07:16 This guy's outside just having fucking realizations about shit. Just thinking about life. I was just realizing my bagel took 40 minutes to get here. That's all I was waiting for. So you still stand firm in the marriage decision? Oh, absolutely. No cold state. None of that.
Starting point is 00:07:32 No, no question. No question. All right. Easy decision. He's the man, yo. Easy decision. He's the man. He's killing this shit.
Starting point is 00:07:38 He's smoking this. To be the only guy that made it to that fucking crossroads. Easy decision. That's dope. I figured out why single life is tough today. I figured it out. I'm always interested in this.
Starting point is 00:07:53 These single chicks are disgusting. They're fucking disgusting, nasty heathens and should be arrested. They should be just get... What? I feel for y'all they're fucking nasty they are nasty
Starting point is 00:08:11 I ain't got another run in me where did this come from yo yo I would just say it was all quiet and silent and this thing said these single chicks are disgusting
Starting point is 00:08:21 nasty heathens what the go ahead I'm sure it's rough out there it's gotta be rough just how they living These single chicks are disgusting. Nasty heathens. What the? Go ahead. I'm sure it's rough out there. It's rough. It's gotta be rough. I want to hear it. Just how they living.
Starting point is 00:08:29 What you mean? What are you doing? You can't live on Casamigos alone. You cannot. They don't have nothing there. Beverage selection in the fridge. Just Casamigos. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:41 No, you just need Casamigos. Or whatever drink the nigga they fucking drink. Casamigos. You. No, you just need Casamigos. Or whatever drink the nigga they fucking drink. Casamigos. You gonna drink it too. Now you drink the drink that the nigga she fucking drink. That's your drink. Whatever you got. Bring your own, nigga.
Starting point is 00:08:54 He bought his own. That's how it got here. They're not punctual, but that's fine. That's right. They crossed the line of not punctual like four hours, five hours late. Yo, I even forgot we made a plan. They was on a date.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Oh, shit. We said that. I said that last night. They might have double booked. Yeah, double booked. They might have double booked. Yo, look at you. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:09:18 When the hunter becomes the hunted. No, just don't get mad when it, you know what I mean? When it come back around. That's real. When it all, when it all comes back around. It's coming. It's coming.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It came. It came. Harsh, harsh realizations. All right, where we starting at? Where we starting at? How was your weekend? I saw you were out being festivi, festiv. You were having a fiesta of a weekend.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I can't find the word. He come want to put pictures on his screen. Mad realizations for me. You was in your bag. This-ish. Was I? You look nice. I can't get you props.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You look nice. You got his bag on him. And you had your little man bag. Yeah, look. I like that bag. That's the blicky bag. Talk to him. That's why I like that bag. They not the blicky bag. The blicky bag. That's why I like that bag.
Starting point is 00:10:07 They're not worried about that. Chest hairs out. Mad thotting around Saturday for me. Nice. Now, a few things that I learned. Saturday
Starting point is 00:10:18 was Angie's annual barbecue cookout that she does. It's normally a big, just big function, a big party with good vibes, some performances,
Starting point is 00:10:28 normally some spades or something happening. So that happened in Elizabeth. That was an early thing, right? Okay. That was a lot that, oh, go ahead. That happened in Elizabeth, New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Shout out to Elizabeth. So I ran over there, thotted around, let the streets fill me. I saw there was a pool. There was a feel me. I saw there was a pool. There was a pool there. I saw the pool as well. Didn't bother to dip my feet inside.
Starting point is 00:10:49 That'll blame you. Didn't do it. Party pools are not the pool. Stayed upstairs, you know. Yeah, yeah. But that was really, really cool. And then from there, I made another little run that we'll get into. Who performed at the Angie Fest?
Starting point is 00:11:03 Who performed? Dream Doll, French, Capella Gray, my guys. get into and that was really formed at the uh angie fest uh who performed dream doll uh french uh capella gray my guys uh who else who else who else there's a few performances good djs i'm sure good djs good vibes good energy it was a good day that that saturday nice um so i ran around somewhere else after that and i ran around somewhere else after that and as i'm thinking about how great the day was i was like like, yo, why was today so great? Like, it felt good to go out with a destination. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Like a few destinations, one. And two, boy, did it feel good to hang out with people my age. That's important. I bet. It wasn't until I was in that mix that I was like, wait a minute. I'm the youngest guy out. I like that. Nobody's stupid here. And if you're stupid, like, we love you for it.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah, we know that you're stupid. You're 55 and stupid now. So we just appreciate you. Or you're stupid as in a minority. Yeah, yeah, we appreciate you. We know what come with you. Yeah, and even then, you might know how to tone down your shit. You got to control your stupid.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Ice was with me the whole day because he got a go-outside pass from his girl. Oh, nice, man. And we'll get into that as well. Ice was with me the whole day. Wasn't it boatloads of fun and joy? Was it just me? No, I haven't been outside in forever. Me neither.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And it just felt good. I don't go out. This summer has come and went. I haven't go out. This summer has come, came and went. I haven't went out since. The summer's over. Yeah, I saw my first show Saturday night, the first concert I've been to.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Summer is over. Two years. I stopped going out when my daughter was born. Straight up. Anybody that I want to sleep with is getting their kids ready for school.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Stupid me on the phone. Yeah, when's school starting? Two weeks, you said? School closure. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's over. It's over. You can't fuck them now. What? You got to wait until the after school programs and shit start. Aftercare?
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah, yeah. You know parents trying to get rid of their kids. Oh, man. Look at me having a blast up there. I had a lot of fun on Saturday. It's a little portable fan. A lot of people was outside. A lot of people outside. I had a mask on. People were like,'s a little portable fan. A lot of people was outside. A lot of people outside. I had a mask on.
Starting point is 00:13:09 People were like, why you got a mask on and you vaccinated? Guess, nigga. You niggas is dirty. That's why. All you niggas is dirty and dingy. I've seen ding before. That's why I have my mask on. I'm talking shit today.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I made a part. Nah, it's mask season again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, mask back on. Yeah. Mask back on yeah mask back on no matter what vaccinated listen y'all do what y'all want
Starting point is 00:13:29 right I'm wearing mine and that's it don't come up to me and tell me not to wear it cause I see a lot of little videos going around mind your business
Starting point is 00:13:37 I mind mine that's it that's it um Money Power Respect the album the whole album is being played like it just was released yesterday.
Starting point is 00:13:47 We Are The Streets was the album being played like it was just released. Money Power Respect is the first one. That's the one I was talking about. All right, so both their albums. Both of their albums are being played as if they were just released yesterday. I heard the Benjamins 300 times on Saturday. to benjamin's 300 times on saturday i heard money power respect more than i've heard it in the last 10 years and people felt good hearing hearing it every time that felt good to see bro every time it dropped like in the same party niggas are crazy it was like back in blood it was that record
Starting point is 00:14:20 yeah it was live that's dope it was live. That's dope. It was live. The conversation still has not shifted off the locks in general. I agree. Which I'm here for. It's a beautiful thing. I'm still living off of that Versus. Yeah. Seen a lot of people say they watched it mad times. I don't think I've ever seen that before.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah, niggas said they on their third or fourth watch. I want to come in here and just tell the truth about what I really think about the Versus that occurred, but't don't be a pussy yeah no no no no no no no yeah yeah i am i am i am i am i'm done with that wait i told y'all those days over you were joe button coming in there you broke that i'm not telling the truth no it's over y'all got y'all last you will never get a real opinion from me ever again But some of y'all know that already Y'all blew that It's over
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's over It's like when your girl don't see you in the same light anymore Oh that's always the worst Why is that the worst? They want foot out the door Yeah No They both feet
Starting point is 00:15:18 They both feet out the door You just didn't see her leave yet You didn't see the other foot go The other foot still When she don't view you the same It's over It's over. It's over.
Starting point is 00:15:26 It's fucked up. You've been viewing her like a piece of shit for five years. When her view changes, though. Yeah, it's different. Then it's over. It's over. I was asking y'all, what are the acceptable terms for a guy to lead a relationship? I asked y'all that in the car.
Starting point is 00:15:39 None. None. There are none. We not allowed to leave? No. When can a guy leave? Think about it. I mean... When is it okay? You're not allowed to leave and still...
Starting point is 00:15:50 What was the example I brought up? I mean, if she cheated, I suppose that would be a valid reason. No. That wouldn't be a valid reason. No? If you're a real nigga. Especially if you've cheated. If you're a real nigga, you're never going to catch her cheating.
Starting point is 00:16:02 That's true. That's also true. Women are good at that shit. No. And if you really... are good at that shit. No. And if you're real, you're ignoring your girl. True. That's the excuse. I didn't feel loved.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I don't know what you do on a day-to-day. Yeah, I can't. Damn. You can't leave. You can't. Damn, we some loyal motherfuckers. I know, and somehow get the bad end of the stick well not you
Starting point is 00:16:26 I'm following your steps yeah Ice was allowed outside with me and that was a surprise that was like a pleasant surprise we was out all day that came from all day long
Starting point is 00:16:36 like I said sun up to sundown Shorty told me she listened to cause she listens to everything so she was like one of them Patreon episodes she was like yo of bothered me a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I didn't realize you're under this, like you'd be this stressed out. Like, I get it. You look out for me. You look out for the baby. You look out for your family. You work all the time. Like, I get it. So, yeah, go out.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And then she also surprised me. She booked me an old spa day for tomorrow. She was like, yo, listen, when you get off, it's set up. Go straight there. Don't even go home. I took care of everything. Wow. A queen.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah. A round of applause, please. Yeah, yeah. Give her some claps. Give me some claps. Give me some claps. Give her some claps. And that right there is the problem.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And that right there is the problem He got a day And we're clapping No he got acknowledgement Yeah And that came with a day Yo you bust your ass for me The kids Your mom
Starting point is 00:17:40 Your family Your fans Your work Your job Yo Get yourself a few hours, man. Go. Yo.
Starting point is 00:17:48 But he's right. No. I agree. There's love. All us men ever want is to be acknowledged. Yeah. And maybe have a couple hours. That's really where my Parks Ice and Ish hate comes from.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Like, y'all come, we come together, and y'all get all your guy thoughts out, but then y'all go on to y'all girls. You mad at us? Yeah. I despise that. Do you know what my thoughts are when I'm alone in the bed? I don't even have anyone to tell them to.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I'm leaving voice notes. Hey man, I want to end it. To yourself? Nigga, it's the voice note king oh man yo i'm i'm i'm um damn i don't want to move on just just yet ice on the flip side of this money power respect thing every time a dip set record came on he was canvassing the crowd and he was shaking his head in disappointment. It wasn't hitting like that. And he would speak out loud and say, oh, it's not hitting the same.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And I'd say, stop, Ice. But was I wrong? No, you wasn't. You wasn't even there. When I got to the strip club, they was doing a dip set shit, and Ice was looking at me like, this shit don't even sound right. But look at the reaction. Nah, you're right. They did a dip set set in the strip club. Dip set sets used to go up in the club. Anywhere. Nah, you're right. Like, the reaction was... They did a dip set set in the strip club.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And that shit was like... Dip set sets used to go up in the club. Anywhere. Club, party, anything. Yeah. It wasn't the same. I ain't even gonna lie. I was like, I was shocked.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, it was. Dip set and Jeezy set used to be my favorite sets in the club. Because I was fighting it. Like, he said it mad times. You know Ice is ignorant. No, but I'm literally just pointing out something as I'm watching. We did a lot of watching.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So we just sitting there looking at shit and I'm like, yo, these records used to ring off. Shout out to them Spanish girls downstairs. You know the ones. Why is I fucking from across the room fun? I can see you. There you go. You looking again?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Why is that? All right, y'all, if y'all can leave me on the ledge. No, I'm not leaving you on the ledge. This is the world. Y'all say something. What you mean? This is what I mean. As dudes in relationships, it used to be cool to look.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And now you can't even do that. No, you can't. No, you can't. Who said it? All right, you go ahead and look. No, you can't. Look too hard. You'll catch a charge.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Fuck what you talking about. Huh? You better not look. Go ahead and look. I dare you to look. Make her feel uncomfortable with your look. Yeah. No, I'll tell her to look.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Look at that. No, I'm not talking about that. No, we're not talking about that. We're talking about something totally different. Oh, that's what we're talking about. The girl you looking at might feel uncomfortable with you looking at her guess what happened don't look at her like that man jesus don't look at her how do you know hold up you lost me you gotta you gotta keep going all right man no explain i don't know what you mean they canceling eyes
Starting point is 00:20:37 i'm lost i look straight ahead can you explain explain? Yeah. All right. They fucking it up. They fucking aging up. Like, we can't even get old like our granddad. I know what he's trying to say. I know exactly what he's saying. You want to know what he's saying? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Man, you know, when you get- Grandparents, the grandpa, the old man. You're old. You're out the game. You can't court. You can't even say. It's a holiday. Come on, A-Zell.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Stop trying to get us arrested. You're old. You know what it is. No, no. He's not old because he's still telling chicks he's 31. He's still active. His eyes are still cute. So he's not really old.
Starting point is 00:21:21 A couple dick pills set him straight. He's back 33 for a him straight. He back 33 for a whole weekend. He talking to bitches about his time sharing shit. Nah, I got this time share. What? What's an old dude shit?
Starting point is 00:21:38 How you know it's over there running out? This next place not a tampon. What is this fool talking about? Go down for a weekend. Hey, yo, something's wrong. But what he's saying is you can't.
Starting point is 00:21:49 You know what I'm saying. Stop trying to make it be. Stop trying to put it on us. Something is wrong with this guy. You know exactly what the nigga's saying. I swear I didn't, but all right. You get it now? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:21:57 No, because he is. You said, yo, you can't look at a girl. What do you mean? I really don't understand. Let's move on. I'm sure there's topics we need to unpack. Other than this one. Yeah, I'm cool with, listen.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I'm cool with leaving it alone. All right, cool. Keep the blinders on. I want to shout out to Don Poole. It was his birthday. He was at Angie's shit. Both events I went to. Shout out to him.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Shout out to Mary. At that second private pool party, right? I just Shout out to him. Shout out to Mary. At that second, like, private pool party, right? I just want to highlight Ice because Ice is funny. Like, spending the day with Ice was great for me. You were people watching Ice?
Starting point is 00:22:33 I realized, yes. Yes. And I realized just how different but the same we are. Like, me and Ice was together all day, but we wasn't together all day. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You was with your upper echelon friends? See, look, look, look, look, look,
Starting point is 00:22:50 look, look, look, look, look, That's what you was. I'm with the people that's from the hood
Starting point is 00:22:57 that I ain't seen forever. Nah. So we kicked it over here. I don't like that. I don't see Ice in that picture. You don't see Ice in that picture, right? There's mad jewelry
Starting point is 00:23:04 in that picture. That's what she's that picture right there's man jewelry in that picture that's what she's talking about the Rockefeller chain ladies night part 2 featuring Joe Bannon ladies night part 2 that is hilarious that's funny
Starting point is 00:23:20 yo Ice don't ever say that I was upper echelon again I don't even know how to say echelon is it echelon escalon nigga don't even know how to say echelon. Is it echelon? Escalon? Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You know what it was. Bullshit you was on. Just going to leave my man downstairs. If I'm with Angie, is that upper echelon? You're with Angie, Mary, Adrian. Stop. We're not doing that. And Elizabeth.
Starting point is 00:23:42 You're not with Angie in Beverly Hills. You're with Angie and Elizabeth. You're not with Angie and Beverly Hills. You're with Angie and Elizabeth. I'm with Angie, who is one of my probably only real friends I have in this industry. I'm not disagreeing with you. No, no, I agree with you. Mary didn't text me and say, yo, I'm pulling up. I didn't say you did. Oh, that's just that picture.
Starting point is 00:23:57 That wasn't me. It was a lot of other motherfuckers over there. No, again. You know why I like this narrative? Because every time we go to these funks, I don't leave my house. If it ain't the strip club. If we take strip clubs off the planet, I don't go this narrative because every time we go to these fun I don't leave my house if it ain't the strip if we take strip clubs off the planet
Starting point is 00:24:08 I don't go nowhere you don't go nowhere right so the one time I step out it was super mixy yeah but I be trying to stand in a corner
Starting point is 00:24:15 I be in a cut I'ma give you the truth there was this big ass industrial fan shit right like to keep all keep the whole balcony area cool
Starting point is 00:24:23 Joe went and stood damn near behind the fan. Y'all know how I'm going to do any time I'm in one of these events. We know that. But energy. I attract people. They just come over to me. Even the Mary Angie picture that I was cropped out of.
Starting point is 00:24:37 When they was taking that pic, I went to hide behind a fan. And Angie said, no, just one pic, man. I mean, you and Maryary just one just one just one and i got in there i said all right fine and i looked stupid in the pic then they cropped me out the pic i was laughing stock of the internet but it was like i'm not here to take pictures no you definitely wasn't here to be mixing it was even a couple times i seen people ask you for a picture you put the mask back on yeah i was just happy to be out i was just happy to be outside right but by the time we got to that next function,
Starting point is 00:25:06 which was beautiful, private little after get-together pool party shit. One of the homies or family or something like that? Of somebody else. But yeah, it was a beautiful, beautiful home. Real good vibes. So this is why ice is funny. See, and this is why I don't like, don't call me up, Archelon, again. We pull up.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's beautiful out there. Mad cars, mad people, but people that look like about things. Yeah. It wasn't. People look busy, active, into whatever they're doing. That's why I love New York, because most people in New York, if you just watch them on the street, they busy doing whatever they doing. They ain't looking around. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:25:46 We get in there, beautiful blue pool. Beautiful blue pool. Gorgeous. Beautiful fucking, I don't even know what you call them. Shit's the fucking law. The cabanas.
Starting point is 00:25:55 The cabanas. They had a bunch of them. Cabanas. Why don't cabanas just add sexiness to anything? I told Joe, I said, yo, damn,
Starting point is 00:26:02 they tried to take a page out of your book. I was like, but they ain't got no fire. They ain't got no fire? Oh, no, no, no. Joe said, you see all of this? There's going to be some fire. Fire's coming. He's like, there's some fire coming. This is my bag. Fire's on the way. Fire's showing up in an hour.
Starting point is 00:26:16 They went around. They rolled out the fire. Lighting up fire. Everywhere. This is happening. Shit that I didn't even know you could light. Look, I know the nigga texted me, like, yo, I said, yo, I was looking up there. He said, eh, ain't nothing really crazy. There's no fire. 45 minutes later, I seen belly dancers.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, I don't know where that came from. I didn't know the belly dancers was coming out. They came out the house. We was like, yo, there's belly dancers? Fam, it wasn't my function. I'm just sitting here enjoying the vibe. It was three belly dancers walk out the house. Enjoying the army.
Starting point is 00:26:42 But this is why Ice is funny. Fool was amazing. The DJ, when we walked in was a violinist. So he was playing your favorite rap instrumental and violining the music and the words.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It was a dude or that girl? It was a dude. It was a dude. It was a dude. And was killing it. Yeah. A bunch of songs. It was a dude. And was killing it. Yeah. A bunch of songs. A bunch of songs that you love.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Like hip hop records. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A bunch of people around this beautiful ambiance. Beautiful women. It's a few celebrities. Just a nice pace here. And Ice goes to the bar. He gets his little glass of whatever he gets.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Pino Grigio. Walks back over to my upper echelon, as he calls it. A nice rosé. Puts his pinky up and says, Wow, I love this violinist. You're from Newark, sir. See, but I don't do that
Starting point is 00:27:40 to my friends. So I just looked at him and said, Isn't he marvelous? Then did a little toast with the glasses. Isn't he? I ain't never seen no shit like that. That was dopest foot. It's remarkable some of the composition. That's what I said to him. I've never seen it. But in my head
Starting point is 00:27:56 as I'm looking at Ice toast with Angie and Mary. I said, Ice, you like back in blood and killer music you don't like
Starting point is 00:28:09 violins you don't like classy beautiful impactful like Ice was in there putting on his
Starting point is 00:28:17 best little that nigga was doing it man but that's the last I seen him cause then when the hood niggas start coming in
Starting point is 00:28:23 he went over there to fuck with the hood niggas I was home see my hood niggas start coming in, he went over there to fuck with the hood niggas. I was home. See, my hood niggas coming. My Jersey City niggas came in there. Oh, yeah. Now we good.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah, I fast walked by them niggas. We know. Is that y'all good? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see y'all. I can see y'all. Oh, shit. How's your feeling? Oh, shit. oh shit how you feeling
Starting point is 00:28:47 oh shit yo wait a minute alright man we gonna talk about ain't no music coming I ain't here to talk about shit god damn it
Starting point is 00:28:58 yo man oh man that's why I don't go out said energy don't do that I ain't even telling nobody this cause I don't go out said energy don't do that I ain't even telling nobody this cause I ain't one to tell nobody
Starting point is 00:29:09 oh lord man I was getting ready to leave the fucking party I'm waiting to get my card and shit you know niggas come up to you for pictures or just to talk
Starting point is 00:29:19 or they are artists you know how many times that day I say yo I'm not in the music business I can't help you I tell them directly I directly tell yo, I'm not in the music business. I can't help you. I tell them directly. I directly tell them now. I don't play the games. I cut them off before
Starting point is 00:29:30 they get to their fucking Twitter. Hey, check this out. I can't help you. No. They walking up to me. I'm not in the music business. I'm not trying to be funny. I manage such and such. I stock sneakers. I can't help you.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Go ahead, Joe. Finish your story. Anyway, my man, come up I stock sneakers. Yo. I can't help you. I share the Twitter A&R. Go ahead, Joe. Finish your story. Anyway, my man come up to me. We trying to leave. So it's like the end. I'm trying to get out of here. My man come up to me.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Put his hand. Do you know this gentleman? Put his hand on my shoulder. He's like, yo, Joe. I'm such and such ex. Huh? Wait, huh? Such and such is somebody I know.
Starting point is 00:30:06 A woman from my past. I ain't seen her in a while. But that's cool that y'all, that you know about. That's cool. Hey, what's up, nigga? Hey. What do you know about? Hey.
Starting point is 00:30:19 How she doing? That thing right there, right? Oh, you know about that? She did that trick. Anyway, so you got an artist. That's a hilarious thing to say. So you know about that? Oh, so you know then.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Oh, you know. So you got an artist, and he's talking to me about the artist, but in clubs and shit, you got to get close to talk. So sometimes niggas be touching you. Touching your shoulder. It's touching. So we trying to leave. It's a bunch of people trying to leave.
Starting point is 00:30:51 This nigga is touching me. Open your ear and shit. Yeah, this nigga is touching, touching me. But it's cool. Go ahead and touch me. I ain't fucked in a while. Go ahead. Get your shit off.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I'm in here. Thank you. I'm in here looking sexy as can be I mean Waiso was paying attention to me Waiso as he's talking about his artist somewhere in there he just threw out some words
Starting point is 00:31:17 cause you know I'm trans right and then he kept going but I ain't leave that get on point you're lying And then he kept going. But I ain't leave that. Say, Bob, get on point. You're lying. But you're saying, see, and this is the problem. You're saying get on point. You're lying.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I wasn't mad or uncomfortable because, you know me, I'm an ally. I love all that shit. Go ahead, get your shit off. Rub my belly button. Have a blast. Look at this. All ahead. Get your shit off. Rub my belly button. Have a blast. Look at this. All right. But I left.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I got to bat it. Once I start doing the science, I put two and two together. I did this little Floyd show. Might be two minus two in this particular case. Whoa. Wait. might be two minus two in this particular case but as I'm leaving I said to myself see and that's why
Starting point is 00:32:14 you can't go out yeah that's why you stay on his home this trend nigga trying to fucking bag me in the club trying to thumb you don't do that
Starting point is 00:32:23 don't do that that's my man though he got you with the thumb move. He did your move. I'm just saying. Oh, man. You wouldn't have recognized. I wouldn't have recognized him.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Time out. This is what I don't understand. I didn't bring this up for you to be angry. Now I could be you doing all the time. All right. Yeah, but when you do it, you're about to offend like a whole group of people. No, no, no. Don't get us canceled.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Tell about he was your ex's ex. He was a girl. No. When he was her ex. I didn't put that together until later. She was dating girls. See. So there's two plus two.
Starting point is 00:33:04 But when he came up to me. There's two plus two. Yeah, there's two plus two. He wasn't a girl. Gotcha. He was dating girls. But when he came up to me, he wasn't a girl. He was trans. That's what I'm saying. You did the math. You carried the one. But people like me shouldn't be left to do the math because I need things simplified for me.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I'm saying to be educated, idiots. I get it. All right. I get it. We're the idiots. We're the idiots. Oh, man. I just paused. I don't even know that.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Oh, man. I was trying to get educational. I get it. That's all I was trying to do. It's a thin line today, though. You was trying to get educational. I get it. That's all I was trying to do. It's a thin line today, though. You just got to be careful. I know, but does that mean to avoid the lines altogether because they're thin? Rather safe than sorry?
Starting point is 00:33:54 To me, yeah. I'll avoid the line completely. It's a shame. It is. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't even really. Well, how do you get educated if you just avoid some shit altogether? Can I be honest real quick?
Starting point is 00:34:09 I don't think they care if you're educated or not. They don't want you. Yo, you don't speak on it, period. Certain people. I got it. That's it. You don't talk about it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:21 All right. I understand. Listen, we got a legend to pay our respects to. Rest in peace, Chucky Thompson. I'm in a round of applause. One of the greatest. One of the GOATs. Legendary.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Iconic. This guy's discog. It's ridiculous. Different. Different. He's got all of them. They're all his. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:42 He's a monster. I'll just read some for the people that might not be familiar. Usher, Thank You, Big Big Papa, Marry My Life, the album. The whole thing. The My Life album and the My Way album.
Starting point is 00:34:58 What was the My Way album? Was it My Way? My Way is Usher. The whole Usher. It's called My Way though. Yes, My Way. That was the one before 87. The Faith album, You Used to Love Me. Look, Mariah Boyz called My Way, though. Yes, My Way. That was the one before 87. The Faith album. You used to love me. Look, Mariah Boyz, The Men, One Sweet Day, Brian McKnight on the down low. So For Real, Faith Evans, Mary. It's all there.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Big, Ice Cube, Nas, One Mic. Actually, yeah, Nas, One Mic. Yeah, you got to go to One Mic. Nas, One Mic. And just the outpouring of love from the entire industry. All of the greats, all the legends. Again, Questlove. I won't read anything that Questlove had to say because it's too personal.
Starting point is 00:35:29 He personalizes things amazingly. He really is. He does. He's great at that. Yo. But they, they, they. He is great. I saw the interview when he was talking about him and Nas doing One Mic.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Uh-huh. And he said they was in the studio like drawing a blank, and then they went to what song gets you. Right. Right? And it's intense, but it's calm. And they start talking about Phil Collins, Heat of the Night. In the air.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I mean, in the air tonight, my bad. And that was like the inspiration for One Mic. And he said how they just got to it was just crazy. Yeah. Chuckie Thompson Who Played everything Self taught Just a part of so many different classics
Starting point is 00:36:10 I didn't even bother to find out How he passed It wasn't important to me How old was he? 53 years old 53 years old Super young Great loss for the entire music community.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Prayers, thoughts, condolences to his fans, family, and friends, of course. How you make some of the greatest hip-hop records and R&B records is just amazing. All I need is one mic. That's all I need. All I need is one mic. All right, I i need all i need is all i need all i need all right i'm gonna turn it off before i get sad but it was here like in the air tonight like that yeah yeah the feel that's that's dope capture the feel that shit is amazing was just great to see so many so many legends and greats pay their respect and honor honor the right way honor chucky the way he was supposed to be honored uh for his home going
Starting point is 00:37:05 uh and that's that that's that on that man chucky thompson rest in peace we love you thank you thank you thank you that's the biggest thing yes a thank you yeah like wow that's what quest was saying he was saying he was coming off his first album uh didn't do great he wasn't feeling great about himself. And Chucky, who was having all the success in the world, reached out to him to program some drums on a record. And he was blown away that he even knew who Questlove was. And he said that Biggie fucking told me everything about the roots, album cuts.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And, you know, just, I always say you never know who's listening. Like, you can make music for a certain demo but that don't mean that those are the only people that are listening that's right like for biggie to just ring off mad album cuts from the roots and introduce like that that funneling of energy the first album too which was not a big success you know yeah rest in peace rest in peace chucky thompson this leads me to this leads me me to something that I've been meaning to talk about for a few weeks here. Social media disappearances. When you disappear from social media.
Starting point is 00:38:16 All together. Everywhere. Like completely going dark. Delete pages or just stop posting content? Both. Oh, okay. Both. Deleting pages. No longer posting content, not a tweet, not a picture, not a gamer tag.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like, there are so many different ways via the internet to keep up with people, right? Like, that's one of the great things about the internet is that it could just act as a big group text. Yeah. Like, people that you don't speak to every day you kind of know that they're all right you could check on them at your own free will and just know that they're doing well but sometimes and and for me i realized how important all that phone social media stuff was when uh uh a store at the stolen phone thing when the new york court told me that a stolen phone is grand larceny because of all the important information that's in the phone right really yes it's it's
Starting point is 00:39:15 too much now people are storing their credit cards all i should everything everything is in the phone so it's a it's a real charge now, no matter what the, you could have paid $800, $700 for your phone. And that was grand larceny. It had to be over $1,000. But it didn't matter that it wasn't because it was too important. Right. And that was a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:35 That was early, the beginning of the decade. So your phone and social media and all that stuff became really important. A few times where I stood before a judge, the prosecutor was going to social media he was pulling up tweets and just things that's what really drove it home to me how important that stuff was right and then you have shows like this is us and then you have shows like a million little things where on on a million little things season one episode one is the white guy at work doing work his secretary steps out for a second comes back and he jumps over the balcony and he kills himself
Starting point is 00:40:12 oh yeah and the person that he was calling his best friend the black guy he didn't answer the phone because he was in the middle of trying to kill himself. Swallowing pills. His wife didn't know. That led to a whole string of events, right? So now let's circle this back to social media disappearing acts. What do they mean? Like, for me they're triggering. For women, they just assume you got pregnant.
Starting point is 00:40:39 For men and women they mean two different things. If you're not a celebrity where you do the whole i'm deleting shit and i could put it back up in 30 days my instagram page is back i'm laying low for me and all of that rollout gimmick shit when you're like a real person dealing with real things and you just go away completely am i the only one that pays that type of stuff any mind is that like but i'm not a big social media dude so I wouldn't even know
Starting point is 00:41:05 That's not you Yeah because you're from a generation where it's just different Niggas your age they don't maneuver that way but today you know we say all the time
Starting point is 00:41:11 you put everything on social media you put what you eat where you go your friends how you feeling what you're doing what you're listening to
Starting point is 00:41:16 what you're watching everything everything so when you go away it's like your journal so completely I got people that I don't speak to
Starting point is 00:41:24 but I feel like if they want to know how I'm doing, I make it easy to find out. Yeah. Agreed. True. So when people disappear from social media, I'm not talking about celebrities, but when just normal people disappear,
Starting point is 00:41:37 it could mean... A bunch of things. Yeah. It could mean... Yeah, but I go to one place. I go to one place first. And you know what, Joe? I go to one place first.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Go ahead, Isaac. It would also depend on how active said person was on social media, too. But if it's a person... Like, if Ish disappeared on social media right now, I'm already there.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So you wouldn't know. You wouldn't really... You know, if I disappear completely on social media, people are going to right like yo you all right like i've had that happen i haven't tweeted in two weeks and i'll get a text yo fam just i ain't seen you on the timeline you good i'll get a dm that'll yo like it'll notify me yo you good just check yeah but if i reach out to you in that dark period because i felt like that let me go dark for a minute it's too much on online just chill out a little bit but if somebody yeah recently but if somebody reaches out i'll let them know i'm alive yeah like i realize i've
Starting point is 00:42:35 i've taken an avenue away of support or a way for people to check on me but when let's say you disappear and then i reach out and you don't say nothing. That should, that's kind of a... That's an alarm. And maybe everything about what I'm saying right now is selfish because it's still thinking about me. Yeah. It's still thinking about... Yes and no. Yes and no.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Nah, I don't think so. But it's true. Because you can still be thinking about that person. Like, yo, I'm not reaching out for me. Especially if you might know someone that maybe has some depression issues or something like that. At the end of the summer parks, and I'm
Starting point is 00:43:11 certain that there's a stat somewhere to back this up, everybody has depression issues. Yeah. At the end of summer, depression, they spike. They go up. Really? Yeah. I thought around the holidays. Well, that. Really? Yeah. I thought around the holidays. Well, that too. That too.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I thought around the holidays. In the summer, holidays, for sure, for sure. Both of those things exist. So what I'm saying now, we're at the end of summer. I assume people will be going through things. See, I look forward to the fall. Like, the fall's my favorite season. So I can't wait for this hot shit to be over.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Jazz Fly, may she rest in peace. When she transitioned, nobody knew a word. Nobody knew nothing. That shit just shocked the industry. For me, I wasn't. I was like, huh? You left with all of those thoughts. Like, damn, could I have done more?
Starting point is 00:44:03 Could I have reached out? What could I have? But when people are ready to go, they out. They just go. I had a friend of mine, a friend of mine purposely transitioned recently. I don't even say suicide. I don't use that term. A friend of mine purposely transitioned maybe a month ago, two months ago. I don't use that term. A friend of mine purposely transitioned
Starting point is 00:44:25 maybe a month ago, two months ago. I didn't tell nobody. Wasn't for me to say. That's one of those private types of, you know. But when it happens,
Starting point is 00:44:37 the people closest feel like, well, shit, I might have missed something. Feel like shit. Yeah. You take it hard on yourself like, damn, maybe I could have done something. Such feel like shit. Yeah. I might have... You take it hard on yourself like, damn, maybe I could have done something. Such and such did reach out to me
Starting point is 00:44:48 saying they was going through something. Uh-huh. But I didn't pay it much mind. It wasn't like serious to me. And then... Everybody going through their own shit, right? Like when you start having kids and work and mortgages and bills and you just running, dog, it's times where I forget to call my mom. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:15 It's times where I'll be like, oh, shit, I ain't speak to my mother in a couple days. Like, what the fuck are you doing? You know what I'm saying? So stuff like that, life takes over. I don't play like that. No. I got to talk to my mom every single day. So stuff like that, life takes over. I don't play like that. No. I got to talk to my mom every single day.
Starting point is 00:45:29 This morning, she ain't answer the phone, and I blew that motherfucker. She's at a funeral. Yeah, no. And I felt that way. I was like, oh, I'm sorry. But no, we need to start the day this way. No, again, so again, life oftentimes takes over, right? And so because you don't really know what somebody's going through it's not that you're minimalizing them it's just like your life is kicking my ass and i'm gonna get to him when i get to him and you
Starting point is 00:45:50 forget well that's why i was making a joke earlier about y'all about y'all going that's me and then you just summed me up like literally i'm dealing with a lot more yeah i just this morning on my way to your house i was like damn i ain't spoke to my grandmother in like three days. That's not me. So I talked to her the way up. But I'm highlighting this stuff because like I said earlier, he had to come on here talking to podcast for his queen to say, oh shit, man, he's making some good points. He might need a break. He might need some help.
Starting point is 00:46:18 He might need blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I keep talking about how I'm envious of y'all because y'all come shoot the shit and then go home to unload or have somebody that could download off you. Like, that's needed. Niggas is just going home and getting in bed and turning on Netflix and they stuck with their fucking thoughts. Yeah. It's a lot. And everybody thoughts ain't the greatest. That's true. So, I see a few niggas
Starting point is 00:46:45 That have magically disappeared So For me Right When I see Especially with girls Right When girls disappear
Starting point is 00:46:54 Eight times out of ten It's a dude involved Like Cause a lot of times When girls get in relationships Or pregnancy When girls get in relationships They just
Starting point is 00:47:03 Shut out Like I'll curse my female friends out Like yo fam Fuck is your problem Cause they'll hit you Or pregnancy. When girls get in relationships, they just shut out. Like, I'll curse my female friends out. Like, yo, fam, fuck is your problem? Because they'll hit you when a relationship is over and be like, what up, homie? You're like, fam, don't do that. Like, we sincerely friends.
Starting point is 00:47:18 We not fucking holla at a nigga. Like, yo, you good? How's your daughter? How's your family? Like, that's sincere friendship. Even if you got a man, you should still check in on the nigga that you really are friends with right so i'll attribute it to that when it comes to my female friends like most times they get a dude dudes be kind of insecure they go under the radar but with men i i check on my niggas you know i'm saying like i'll just shoot yo what up nigga you good everything all right boom boom boom like i ain't speak to you in a couple weeks like i i routinely check on my
Starting point is 00:47:48 friends and i think that i'm open enough that if some shit is really troubling you you could let me know well there's the other side there's the other side like moneybag yo has a lyric and he says i tell everybody i'm good because what you're to do if I'm not? That's exactly what I was about to say, Ish. And that's like meaning, yo. It's not true, yo. A lot before, a lot of, like you just said, Ish, people are dealing with life. I know, but that's the keep trucking mentality. Yeah, it's like, yo, my issue ain't going to stop the next man.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I got to keep going. I agree. I got people depending on me. That's how I feel, right? Like, we don't have a choice but to be good. Keep it moving. Even if you're not good, you still don't have a choice but to be good even if you're not good you still don't have a choice but to be good and and and everybody's not as strong as you and real quick some niggas
Starting point is 00:48:31 need advice some niggas need a release some niggas need to get that whatever they carrying off their chest onto another person but the key is is somebody that may be able to help you in any way whether it just be some words of encouragement. A lot of times, especially today, men, people just want to know your business. No, yeah, true. So it's like if you're dealing with something and you go, you know, you vent,
Starting point is 00:48:57 or whatever the case may be, they ain't really listening to help you out. They listening because as soon as they hang up the phone, they about to call or tell. Exactly. So a lot of people become more reserved and you keep more shit inside and again with men we've been taught as men that any vulnerability is a weakness that's right right just how people raise their kids my nigga like if a little boy falls on the ground he scratches his knee little girl falls on the
Starting point is 00:49:22 ground and scratches their knee they They get two totally different treatments. The little boy is told, yo, get up, boy. You better not cry. Take it like a man. So we, now after you 30 years of hearing take it like a man,
Starting point is 00:49:35 you start playing sports when you're young. You better not show no weakness, no vulnerability playing sports. It's funny, Bernie Mac's daughter was just doing an interview talking about his harsh style of parenting. But just because he was parenting back then. He was an old head, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And she was telling this story that was real uncomfortable to hear today about her going to school. She was young, grade school, and getting in some shit with a guy. And the guy punched her in the face. And she went home to confide in her dad like oh my god i'm fucked and bernie mack said what a lot of parents back then said yeah if you don't go back to school and fuck him up pick up something and bust his ass in the head yeah then i'm gonna fuck you up yeah and i felt the way listening to that today and rest in peace bernie mack uh another golden legend i felt the way in the story but this was
Starting point is 00:50:25 her story and this was her and the point she was trying to make was pardon me the point she was trying to make was she lived with shit because of how that was handled like
Starting point is 00:50:40 you deal with your own shit you gotta deal with your own shit I can't dog. You got to deal with your own shit. That's what that means. I can't tell my dad this happened. He's going to tell me, yo, go back and deal with it. Fuck out of here. Shake it off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:52 So, yeah, I got to deal. And you take that into adulthood where whatever fall on me, I got to deal with it. I don't have nobody that's going to lighten the load. The person that's supposed to be your refuge is telling you yeah to a dude i could see like because old school parents is like that especially black this is my fault i did this i started this podcast this serious on this hundred degree it's cool it's all right no but i just thought it's important it's a necessary it's a necessary it's the end of the summer i'm seeing people actively disappear that i love and i'm worried about and they're running.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And I know how that feels because I be home in bed dealing with my brain alone. So it just hurt. It bothers me. And I know what it could result to. But I think disappearing from social media is very healthy. There's no value in this shit. It's healthy if it's healthy. It's healthy if it's healthy.
Starting point is 00:51:44 It's healthy if it's healthy.'s healthy if it's healthy it's healthy if it's healthy true if it's not healthy then it's not healthy like your body is your body
Starting point is 00:51:52 right so some things about your body will never change like conditioning and the things that it needs and if you don't drink water for a certain amount of time some shit is gonna happen
Starting point is 00:51:59 yeah for addicts the second that you get off of whatever you are now it's withdrawal time. Your body was used to, Ian going through it now with cigarettes. Right. You quit the cigarettes, nigga, your lungs and your body got to learn this new way.
Starting point is 00:52:12 We got to get all this cough to phlegm, all of this. Your body is bodying. Yeah. Why did I bring this up? Social media. Social media, yeah. If we're used to waking up social media from dusk till dawn. It is an addiction point, too.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Oh, it is. Because it is. And it's designed to be that way. Yep. Yeah. At another time, we'll talk about who designed the internet. That's like a deep dive conversation. Well, social media, particularly.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah. But yeah, if you're used to it, then you can't even picture a life without it. Like, your body, mind, soul, spirit might not function the same without it, just like with anything else. The only time I really get breaks from this shit or back in the day was when I lost my phone. Like, the universe had to force me into realizing how peaceful it was when I lost the phone. That panic left. You know the panic you feel? And that shit felt good for something
Starting point is 00:53:05 to not have that type of control over you. That's why we're going to kick the cigarettes because after you eat, you got to rush over. No, no, no, no, no, no. We don't need something to have control over you like that. Sunday, I'm going to find what I'm wearing to your way. Oh, you and I, I'm saying you can walk Sunday. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:22 You can walk for half a Saturday. I went out. I took pictures in my phone. So, listen. So, I'm talking about... This nigga was out of it. We're serious still. Alright, fine. Alright, we're being serious. They don't like when I joke through serious times.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I just be trying to balance it. Go ahead. I know. But, I get in the car and I realize, oh shit, I left my phone. Yo, that was like the freest I've ever felt. And it was only for like two hours. But not having to check it, just nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Like no access. If you need me, if it's an emergency, I'm with Shorty, call her. Like my family, you know what I'm saying? Everybody, call her. Not for nothing, that's what I really love about the fucking watch, is that you can't do shit on it, but someone can still call you or text you, so you can still remain in contact. See, I have this.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I don't even have the cellular plan. Oh, I got a cellular. I took it off. I mean, I have the watch, but I don't pay for it, for the cellular plan. I like having the cellular, because I'd be leaving my phone upstairs, or in the fucking other basement, or whatever, and just go about my day. I'll be here, and I'll check in in six, eight yeah see what's going on and the other thing but if there's an emergency i'm here and and the other thing um about going dark social media and addiction
Starting point is 00:54:35 i'm so addicted to opening twitter on my phone that when i do those times when i take those breaks i have to actually delete the app because my finger on the unlock goes right there. And now I catch myself open, I put another app in its place, just to like trick my brain. That's crazy. Yeah, it's like automatic. That's learned behavior.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I swipe up, and then I tap right there where the TweetLogix app usually is. It was designed that way. Yeah. Yo, that's crazy. Nah, I mean, the social media shit is this. No, no, I'm outstanding. I'm just out of here.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yeah, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we good. That's what I'm going to do. Now, you can still make your point. You're going to make it over outstanding. No, no, no. This shit is just, it's literally an addiction.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Like, yo, dog, you'll grab your phone and check social media before you pray when you wake up. Like, cold still in your eyes, breath st check social media before you pray when you wake up. Like cold still in your eyes, breath stinking, the whole shit. You might wake up thirsty as hell and still go for your phone first. Literally go for your phone. Four in the morning, five in the morning, you got to go pee, you'll be looking at your phone. That's nuts, fam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I've started turning my phone off at the end of the night. Well, I have mine on automatic. I leave it in the other room, turn it off. I have mine on automatic. I know you want to, I'm leaving the other room, turn it off. I have the automatic, like I have my bedtime and everything set to the phone. I have my shit, yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:50 I have that too. So at 10, 15 every night, it shuts everything off. Yeah. So even if my phone, you text me, whatever, call me, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:55:57 my phone's not lighting up. Uh-huh. So at least that much because I sleep in the dark. Right. So at least I don't have that lighting up just distracting you all night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, I don't know who needs to hear this, but I love you. Word. I'm here if you need to kick it, you know what I mean? And if I'm not fine, somebody you're comfortable with kicking it with, you're important. Because that's the other thing I realized. Like, when some of the people you used to speak into pull the disappearing act, you don't even have the surrounding phone numbers to make sure they're okay.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I don't have your girl's number, your mom's number, your dad, your cousin, any of your brother. Nobody. Come on, man. All I know is you. Come on, let's do better. How are you, y'all? And then, like you say, even if you do have the numbers, you reach out to this person, you might, now they're nervous. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:52 Like, you just don't know. Like, it's so much with that. Thank you. Mic check, mic check. I'm so excited. Mic check, mic check. All right. I did think that was important. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:57:13 That was great. All right. What else we got going on? What else we got going on? What's happening? How we feeling? Which I want unpacked. Which I want to kick it about.
Starting point is 00:57:23 New York City will be getting a new governor. Well, New York will be getting a new governor. Oh, we are serious stuff today. We are here today. JVP. Nigga went right to Cuomo. Can we wait on this? I mean.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Is there something else to talk about? What's up? Get the serious stuff out the way. Let's see. It's all serious. That don't got to be serious. No, that's serious. He's out of here.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah. He's done. Ain't too much of a deep dive. No. It could be. it could be it could be fam last year they were saying cuomo for president i think those two things literally i think those two things are directly related i totally agree last year dog think 12 months motherfuckers were saying he's the best shit since sliced bread cuomo for president that's all you saw was mad signs and he's out of here now. I was one of them.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I let it slip off my tongue for a second. I like him and his brother. He was doing a good job of providing some type of leadership. Solace for New York. Yeah. He was definitely that. And I think that he was relatable. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:24 He sounded like a New Yorker. Yeah, he sounded like a New Yorker. Yeah, he sounded like a New York dude. Yeah. Just sounded like one of the homies. Yeah. They got him out of here. Yeah. Like, it's not much of a deep dive
Starting point is 00:58:31 on the result. Right. They got him out of here. And that's important to note because he was fighting it. He was fighting it tooth and nail. Yeah, he was. He fought it in the resignation.
Starting point is 00:58:41 He fought it as hard. Yeah, he fought it in the resignation too. Yeah. Yeah, he did. He wanted to make his case felt. Yeah, he fought it in the resignation too. Yeah, he did. He wanted to make his case felt. Listen, I don't have the range to know why this is actually coming about. Some people are saying this is orchestrated.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Some people are saying that he's still going to have, he's still going to have a place in the political world. I don't know. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Cuomo resigns following finding he sexually harassed 11 women. He got on TV and said, I didn't do none I don't know. Cuomo resigns following finding he sexually harassed 11 women. He got on TV and said, I didn't do none of that.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah. I think I saw one quote that said, I didn't harass them. I'm just Italian or something. See, I don't even know if he said that. I don't know about that. From what I heard, he's basically saying, like, yo, I'm going to step aside because I'm more of a distraction to what's going on. Like the world needs to get back. I don't want to be a distraction.
Starting point is 00:59:29 The COVID shit is jumping back on people's asses. So me being here is more of a distraction and a hindrance than a help. But be clear, I ain't do this shit. That's what I'm saying. He fought this all the way to there. Yeah, like I'm not. I'm not copping to that. And lost if he was resigning, right?
Starting point is 00:59:48 Yes. Yes. I wouldn't even say that. And I think that's what he was trying to say. Like, yo, I'm not copping to it. I'm going to just step aside because it's bigger issues and I don't want to be a distraction. I want y'all to be able to govern and do some other shit and get to more pressing shit. Again, COVID is coming back and it's not even a winter it's not even a fall word and covid is coming back but but ish if the goal
Starting point is 01:00:10 was to get him removed in some way oh then he lost he lost then he lost i agree you get what i'm saying he lost because they got him out of here let me read this on august 3rd state attorney general leticia james announced the results of an investigation into allegations made against the governor by women who worked for or alongside Cuomo. According to James, the report revealed a deeply disturbing yet clear picture in which the governor sexually harassed multiple women, many of whom were young women, by engaging in unwanted groping, kisses, hugging and by making inappropriate comments. Let's stop right there. If the powers that be are at play here, then we'll save that for another time on this topic of accountability. If he did that, then yeah, it's time to resign.
Starting point is 01:00:57 You can't just continue to move up in the ranks if this is how you're behaving yourself. None of us will know, but clearly here they say they conducted an independent investigation. Unfortunately, I'm familiar with those a little bit. And you get findings from them. And what they found is there's a pattern. Or enough that a case can be proven.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Something was going on. Enough that a case can be proven. Now, if that's what happened, happened yeah you're a hindrance and a distraction to whatever the main objective and goal is and it's time to step down and when you see your brother you see fucking his brother on TV looking stressed out they attacking him now
Starting point is 01:01:36 so you gotta step down Cuomo gotta go and Ish is right it was Cuomo for president and this is the result of it. But the same thing with Tori. At the top of the year, it was Tori on live. He was king of the world.
Starting point is 01:01:52 It was Drake pictures. Then it was, eh. He's trying his best to cook through it, but yeah. I don't have anything to say about this. I was shocked to see him on CNN with the breaking news, doing the breaking news conference. And my heart goes out to the victims in this case. My heart goes out to the women.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Don't do it. No, just what I was shocked at, he still didn't cop to it. Like, that part kind of got me. Why? Was he supposed to cop to it? If he did it. Let's just say he didn't cop to it. Like, that part kind of got me. Why? Was he supposed to cop to it? If he did it. Let's just say he didn't, though. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:34 Like, I don't want to discredit anybody's story. I don't want to sound... The accusation is enough. I mean, and that's the taboo conversation. That's the elephant in the room. None of us was there. We don't know. We don't have facts we don't we can't
Starting point is 01:02:46 everybody's just speculating unless you you know have knowledge or intel right but other than that the accusation is enough you can't tell somebody how they feel it's enough to detract opportunities employers network it's just enough it's nasty no
Starting point is 01:03:01 man wants that on them at all indeed and you never ever ever escape it like this is gonna follow him till he dies of course and my thing is i want to be very i want to be clear sensitive and careful to not let to keep this in its proper perspective because we're're men, right? So we're juggling a few things. One of them, and I'm trying here, I'm trying, and I ain't even the guy that should try, but I'll try it.
Starting point is 01:03:36 One of them is this wheelhouse, where there are men in and of power and money that are running around acting a fucking fool. As men, we see them niggas sometimes. Yeah, 100%. Niggas look like goofy, doofy, thirsty niggas. And we talk to women. We have women friends.
Starting point is 01:03:56 We know they get uncomfortable. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All of that's a real thing. Yes. So you got to be sensitive to all of that. There's plenty of women involved here that maybe were fucking traumatized even seeing him on the screen if this happened this way yes for me that conversation is to be kept totally away from the conversation that many men turn it
Starting point is 01:04:17 into which is can't say it's different yo do you think that's crazy it's different alright now it's different do you think it's crazy we can't even have
Starting point is 01:04:29 the conversation I'm gonna have it in a few months no I'm just saying oh but that we are in a place where
Starting point is 01:04:37 you can't even have the what if conversation well like I said earlier some of these sensitive topics with the real thin line better off just staying away yeah you just gotta stay away from hey maybe you can hop over what if conversation? Well, like I said earlier, some of these sensitive topics with the real thin line, you better off just staying away. Yeah, you just gotta stay away from it.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Hey, maybe you could hop over the third rail, but it's the third rail. You touch it, or that's your ass. You maybe could hop over the fucking barbed wire fence.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But it's a barbed wire fence. But it's a barbed wire fence. So I get it. And if it touches you. And there's a gate over there. Yeah, that's shaz. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:05:02 and there's niggas with rifles in the lighthouse. Yeah, a lot of times it's best to just leave certain topics alone. I agree. Especially today. I agree.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I just looked at you and said no. Can't agree. Yeah, yeah. We can't agree. We can't discuss it now, but we can't agree on the topic
Starting point is 01:05:18 that we are talking about. Not this. No, no, no. Very different. Very different. I'm not talking about that. We can't agree on the topic that'm not talking about we can't agree on the topic that we are talking about but then where do you because the women won't address that
Starting point is 01:05:31 no so if the men and the women won't address it it gets swept under the rug you can't leave that alone you cannot no it becomes it becomes a festering problem it festers and it grows and it grows and it grows and then you get a powder keg that we have now going on in society yeah because now if you come to a point where an accusation i'm not talking about this an accusation is enough fuck facts if you if you say well wait let's wait for the facts you want to be accusation free you are
Starting point is 01:06:09 victim blaming there's a lot of terms they use now yeah yeah no believe believe women believe like so I'm
Starting point is 01:06:17 to blindly believe it puts you in such a spot where it's like you know what I can't play with it dog can't play with it
Starting point is 01:06:24 Kobe Bryant's case. Right? Rest in peace, Kobe Bryant. Always. The greater. The GOAT. It's one of them. Right?
Starting point is 01:06:31 Kobe Bryant's case. They said that they knew they didn't have enough evidence to even get out of grand jury. Uh-huh. But they kept it
Starting point is 01:06:40 moving along because that city was making so much money that they just milked it like all the hotels were sold out all the restaurants were sold out all that shit was sold out so i'm deviating off track but the girl was lying and they knew she was lying and they still persecuted this nigga in the media for a better part of a month listen maybe it's irresponsible of us to even call her a liar no no but to bring up this topic in reference to a starting with cuomo what's going on there true because people
Starting point is 01:07:12 have a hard time differentiating yeah what we're saying well they'll create a narrative yeah they'll create a narrative so listen my heart goes out to all of the victims in this cuomo case all of them all the victims period like just even the victims that haven't been able to get that to come forward and have their day like just everybody yeah because it's a lot of this shit it ain't just him it's it's a lot of going on it has been going on since the beginning of history if you are a powerful man in any country in the world, anywhere in the world, whether it's Africa, Asia. Women were a commodity. Powerful people do powerful shit.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Women too. Again, I'm keeping this conversation separate from you nasty asses out there that are just targeting men that wanted nothing but the best for you. It's very different. It is. They could look the same.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Very different talks we don't get there what else we got I don't know y'all got every serious y'all I said it's a hundred degrees
Starting point is 01:08:15 outside and you introduced two of them somber Sammy you got something got a serious one over there I've been asking you since we walking
Starting point is 01:08:22 you got a serious one over there you got something for us I've been asking you since Edison walking you got a serious one over there you got something for us I've been asking you since Edison New Jersey alright you got something I've been asking you since Trenton since Jamesburg the fuck is going on
Starting point is 01:08:36 and he was never in Jamesburg wasn't a real nigga alright here we go here's something fun platonic women friends platonic women friends Platonic women friends As I was even thinking About the topic I'm reminded that
Starting point is 01:08:49 The other day I made a long mental list Of all the people That I show up for Don't do that Don't make a list If you're a man Don't
Starting point is 01:09:00 Cause you realize It's a lot of motherfuckers Don't I should never feel Bad Might not show up for you. I should always be showered with love, is how I feel,
Starting point is 01:09:08 but that's narcissism and gaslighting is what they tell me. Niggas wanting love is gaslighting. Appreciation. It's not our time right now. We want to get acknowledged. Nah, don't do that. I'm getting fucking killed from bitches
Starting point is 01:09:23 that like they steak well done. I got to fucking go to sleep. All right, man. That's a deal breaker, by the way. Platonic what? What? Steak well done steak? Yeah, no, fuck.
Starting point is 01:09:36 That's not happening. No, you want to fuck her, though. The head is too far for you to walk away at this point. You can't. Hey, you like that burn shit go ahead but suck this when you're done
Starting point is 01:09:49 get this bone and now look at Ish who is the bone in filet platonic friends platonic women friends I have many of them do you
Starting point is 01:10:03 yeah do you Ish do you Ice yes I have quite a them. Do you? Yeah. Do you-ish? Do you ice? Yes, I have quite a few. Have you ever tried to put yourself in the mind of your platonic woman friend? In what? Like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:10:16 What I mean is, she's your platonic woman friend. I mean, she comes over and hangs, and y'all have a blast, and then she leaves. And if she has a bunch of friends, guy friends like this, that means she's popping up around guy circle group, friend groups, listening to all the shady shit that guys do, none of them trying it on her, and then she goes home to bed.
Starting point is 01:10:39 While that sounds like fun, and that sounds healthy, is that fun and healthy for her? I mean, if she knows she's a whore. None of her guy friends want to fuck her. Damn, I sound like a caveman even saying that. Hey, it's not my thoughts. Entertainment purposes only.
Starting point is 01:10:58 What they used to say on the mixtapes, for promotional use only. For promotional use only. We're just promoting. That's not depressing. If you go get around all your girlfriends and none of them ever try to shoot a shot at you at all, it would be depressing the other way around. It's a little different. It's not a gender thing.
Starting point is 01:11:12 What's the difference? It's a little different for guys and girls because men are a little more barbaric. Predatory. Yeah, like, again, girls got a little koof with their shit. I disagree with that. But that's a Patreon episode. No. Women are way more fucking that than men.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Not as overt. It is. It's just the only guy that knows is the guy that she's doing it to. I know, but again, they- Men is just shooting at their specialty move to all the chicks. Hey, whatever closes the deal, we shooting at the 900 of them. Yeah. So again, if you the 901 and the niggas ain't trying to shoot at you, you feeling some sort of way.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It's only seven other niggas that know about this magic sauce that you doing. Damn. And I know them seven niggas. We be in the club together. That's better, though. I be dapping these dudes up. That's better. If you're the-
Starting point is 01:12:02 They be saying to me, what you doing? You leave here and snickering. The Eskimo brother game, we won't get into it. that's better. If you're the... They be saying to me, what you doing? You leave here and snickering. You know, the Eskimo brother game, we won't get into it. But it's a deeper level that we never address. I agree.
Starting point is 01:12:13 The friendships. No, no. No, it is. It's true. The friendships. Oh, this is great. I'll come by and move on. Cool, a nigga's like...
Starting point is 01:12:21 Let's move on. I just threw that out there. Just throwing it out. Hey, I'm just throwing shit out there. That's it. Come on, moving along. White people. Why do they keep asking white people their showering habits?
Starting point is 01:12:32 White celebrities in particular. Because I don't think they shower all the time. And they're proving a point. My people are dirty. Dogs. I mean, I heard a couple say that they don't even wash their legs in the shower. That's old. That's old.
Starting point is 01:12:49 No, but they said it. But when they said it, it was new for black people. Like, oh, the whites aren't washing their legs. They took everything but showers. They took everything but bathing properly. Oh, shit. Why people don't wash their legs in the shower? I wash my legs. And feet. No, who said something recently? Everyone. Why people don't wash their legs in the show? I wash my legs.
Starting point is 01:13:06 And feet. No, who said something recently? Everyone. All of them. No, they keep asking them. Yeah. I think it was Aquaman. He said, I shower.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Because I shower daily. Some shit like that. Why is that news? Yeah, I don't understand. Wait, who? Aquaman? Yeah. I don't think we know you shower daily.
Starting point is 01:13:24 You Aquaman. That's what he we know you shower daily you Aquaman that's what he said wait that's what he said wait a second alright Marvel Universe y'all getting carried away Aquaman
Starting point is 01:13:33 we know you shower you better shower that's DC anyways but go ahead it's not Marvel did you see Suicide Squad the new one half of it
Starting point is 01:13:41 I didn't watch it all no not your bag no we fell asleep that's all it was alright we just started watching it late I didn't watch it all. No? Not your bag? No, we fell asleep. That's all. It was alright. We just started watching it late and fell asleep. Probably finish it tonight. I'm watching the Cocaine Warrior. It's a cocaine cowboy guys on Netflix. I heard that
Starting point is 01:13:54 shit dope. Two Miami guys, Sal and whatever his name is. I'm not hip to that one. What do they do? Find the coke? What do all the Spanish dudes you know do? but but find the coke what do all the spanish dudes you know do you know do any of your spanish niggas have jobs damn that's a good yo wait a minute hold up yo i'm offending everyone today
Starting point is 01:14:20 this is entertainment only Promotional use only I know that they are to manage people with jobs But all the niggas I know in New York They got a job too They not clocking in They got work They got work They don't have a job, they got work
Starting point is 01:14:39 We Tekashi-ing right now Tekashi still got all the niggas' names memorized that he told on. That shit is amazing. That nigga is still. The government name. I am blown away by that. The proceeding is over. Nigga just used nigga's street names again.
Starting point is 01:14:59 He is still in that mode. Terrence Blossom. He is on Clubhouse just naming the... All right, we'll get into that later. Oh, that's what's gonna happen? Okay. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I stopped going on that ad a very long time ago. No, thank the Lord. It's nastiness. I'll explain it to you later. All right, white people don't want to shower. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:19 OJ don't want to go out. OJ, OJ, OJ. This was the best shit I've ever heard. But not coming off. See, I knew coming off Shut the Fuck Up Week, niggas was going to talk. Yo. After Shut the Fuck Up Week. Can I read this?
Starting point is 01:15:36 Was Talk Week. You could do the whole segment by yourself. OJ Simpson says he avoids LA because he might run into the person who killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman I might be sitting next to whoever did it nigga
Starting point is 01:15:52 you got a mirror fuck that's not funny to me cause I don't think he did it but alright wait that's funny to me
Starting point is 01:16:00 alright you don't think he did it fuck no my ass why like I thought That's funny to me. All right. You don't think he did it? Fuck no. My ass why? Like, I thought we all knew he did it. We just wanted to win. We as in black people? Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Yes, nigga. Yes. Ice. I don't feel... This is a touchy subject. Okay. Well, you touched it. I can touch it, though.
Starting point is 01:16:22 No, you already touched it. I'm gonna touch it. You touched it. You're touching it more now. All right. That's what got qualified, bro. I can touch it though No you already touched it I know I'm gonna touch it You touched it You're touching it more now Alright That's what got qualified bro I'm poking it now Yo Ish picks the wildest hills
Starting point is 01:16:32 The OJ hills He picks the hills That most podcasters Would just recognize as a hill and bounce The funny part about that We just did an hour about hills and staying away from certain. All right, but go ahead.
Starting point is 01:16:49 What'd you think? Because I'm getting into what I think about Snow Allegra's album right after you finish. Go ahead. I'm coming in with Snow. Put that on the ticker. All right, we could go to that white lady.
Starting point is 01:17:02 He's cool. Go to Snow. Ah, I see what you did there. We could get off, Nicole. Go, man. I don't want to be friends with nobody but his girl. Come on, you don't think OJ did it, why? They found his blood, his fingerprints, his weapons.
Starting point is 01:17:21 The glove really fit. He wrote a book that said, if would, I did it. I'm rolling because I'm black, but that glove was perfect. Yo, that's brand close information. I don't know what the jury eyes was doing. That glove fit. That glove was snow snug. It just looked like it was left out in the sun for a second.
Starting point is 01:17:41 That's it. I'm going to throw this shit in the dryer real fast. I don't think I ever seen a glove fit more perfect. Y'all fell for the fucking theatrics. Y'all fell for it. OJ's an actor. I'm not saying nothing, fam. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:57 No, I'm saying something. I'm telling you. Listen to this. I'll be 41 soon. Every pair of gloves I've ever tried to put on Fit like that Look at this shit Until I did the little thing
Starting point is 01:18:08 In my jiggy Hey look OJ Those Those are your gloves Hey See why I gotta start Doing jury duty
Starting point is 01:18:19 Hey No I done got kicked out That's what happened Wait That's what happened Wait That's what happened On fucking The cocaine cowboys Dina said
Starting point is 01:18:29 Yo you gotta go Hey on the cocaine cowboys The jurors wanted to leave I bet And the homeboy Was gonna pay them to leave Hey just say I ain't do that shit
Starting point is 01:18:38 And leave And then they left Nah the state wasn't having that They found all them niggas That got paid from the jury Hey give his ass 20 years for you Five five years for you. Because one dude, they got on the wiretap.
Starting point is 01:18:50 He was like, oh, and he's a fucking idiot. The cops was trying to press him. The juror. The juror that rigged the whole shit. Spoiler alert. Juror that rigged the shit. The cops was trying to press him. They didn't have an end.
Starting point is 01:19:02 So they just found a big Spanish plug-looking cop and did some the shit. The cops were trying to press them. They didn't have an end. So they just hide. They found a big Spanish plug-looking cop and did some undercover shit. And they got the guy saying, no, I would never tell. Even if they gave me 20 years, I would do the 20 years. I got goosebumps in my bed. And I said, in 20 minutes
Starting point is 01:19:19 of this doc... He's going to get 20. In 20 minutes, he's going to get 20 years. And sure enough, that judge said, well, I heard it in my own two ears. So,
Starting point is 01:19:29 here goes the 20 years. 20 years. Hold that. Yo, shout out to criminals. All the crimes I see, I wouldn't do. You niggas is tough, tough.
Starting point is 01:19:42 What you mean? He got paid maybe half a mil to rig the jury you know how much you gotta pay me to rig the jury it's not half a mil fuck that how much I got now are you adjusting for inflation right now
Starting point is 01:20:04 yeah if you got half a mil 30 years ago that's different than a half a mil it was in 91 to rig a jury to rig a jury 30 years ago stop for a second
Starting point is 01:20:17 see cause I hate when humans do that you trying to trick me right now with brain stuff Stephen A tried that shit this morning he was trying to get on Michael Thomas from the Saints the receiver who opted to do the surgery close to the season for me when I watch that it clearly says fuck you to the Saints it does yeah all of the analysts are saying but how could he why would he why would he so Stephen A starts with Michael Thomas gets got a hundred100 million contract over five years, 60 of which were guaranteed.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Then he goes into his dialogue about how the nerve of him. And I'm on my living room couch saying, well, the Call Me Daddy girl's got $60 million for three, or the one girl, $60 million for three years. What are we saying to Michael Thomas? Right, why is it the nerve of him? For three years. Mm-hmm. What are we saying to Michael Thomas? Right. Why is it the nerve of him? I could tell you why, but.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Don't. Not right now. Tell me later. Tell me in my ear. Tell me. We don't want honesty on the mic. Yeah. We don't want that type of honesty.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Michael Thomas, I watched him. 90% of their offense goes to him. Correct. And he's getting 60 million guaranteed. I fully expect him to wake up one day, Rich as fuck and say, hey. I'm good. No.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I can miss this year. I'm good. Nah. I don't like that. Remember how homeboy felt when the Falcons, somebody had one of them good tight ends lining up every season. The Saints. The Saints. Jimmy Graham. They had that nigga lining up a receiver.
Starting point is 01:21:48 100 snaps out of 100. You try to get paid for receiver snaps. Hey. You a tight end fan. Pow, pow, pow. Pow, pow, pow. Pow, pow. Pow, pow.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Get this tight end money over here. Pow, pow. I don't know how all this came up, but yeah, cocaine cowboys watch this out. Netflix is not paying me. Half a million dollars. Netflix has never paid me for anything. Yo, tell y'all though, speaking of shit we've been watching on streaming,
Starting point is 01:22:10 Romeo has a concert on HBO Max. I was talking about that last time when we were talking about the versus. No, that shit is phenomenal. Wait, wait. No, that shit is great. No, no, no, no. That shit is great. No, no, Joe.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Hey, yo. All right. You no, no. That shit is great. No, no, Joe. Hey, yo. All right. Romeo Santos. I've been through it, Romeo. You got to say that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to slow down. I get it.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I get it. Fuck is wrong with this guy? My name is Lil Romeo. I'm black. Yo, Romeo got this shit I was watching. Bam. This shit right here. That shit.
Starting point is 01:22:49 That shit. He's so stupid. No, I get it. This is my man right here. No, no, no. Romeo Santos. That's it. My fault.
Starting point is 01:22:57 That changes. Romeo Santos' name should be said just to separate him from them other Romeos. Yeah. Like, I'm not them. Even like Shakespeare, Romeo. Get out of here. You know, he should be. Backseat.
Starting point is 01:23:06 My bad. Or if you're talking about Romeo Sanchez, you're supposed to say, Santos, you're supposed to say, the, the Romeo. The Romeo. The Romeo. I don't even want to imagine
Starting point is 01:23:18 the amount of sex he's had in his life. I'm tired just thinking about it. Oh my God. Y'all be thinking y'all dicks had a blast. This guy. He fills up stadiums with beautiful women.
Starting point is 01:23:31 It's him. Y'all got stadiums. Messy, right? And there's one more in that elite God status. Ronaldo. Ronaldo.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Ronaldo. Wait, wait. No, no. And the fucking this is the last one on that Mount Rushmore fucking Beckham. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:23:50 They liked him and Posh. They liked Beckham. A lot. They love him. My chicks. Everyone's chicks, by the way. Yeah, mine too. What?
Starting point is 01:24:01 What? What? No, he right. All of our chicks. I didn't say a word, buddy. I didn't say nothing. Yo, I'm telling you, the chick, the dudes that my chicks like, I'm so just lucky to be in the...
Starting point is 01:24:13 Y'all keep wanting to not talk about it when I ask y'all, so I'll just take it by myself. Yo, my shorty loves Aquaman. That's tough. That's tough. No, but he's tough. He's got muscles. Girls like that nigga. No, they love that nigga. No, but he's tough. He's got muscles. Girls like that name. No, they love that name.
Starting point is 01:24:26 No, he's pretty cool. They just had some shit with Lisa Bonet. And they was like, yo, she got Lenny Kravitz and Aquaman. And they be cool in pictures and shit. And they cool. They boys. Nigga Lenny Kravitz got a 12-pack stomach still at 50-something. And then you got Aquaman over here with the biceps, triceps.
Starting point is 01:24:47 80 showers. It's tough to compete with that, man. Yeah, like, yo. Holy shit, this guy washes his legs. Ding, ding, ding. Oh, he's a winner. Oh, man. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Oh, that's who it was. It was Jake. That's who it was It was Jake That's my man too Jake Gyllenhaal Is that how you say his name Yeah Jake Gyllenhaal Yeah Gyllenhaal
Starting point is 01:25:11 Gyllenhaal Gyllen Oh okay That was my man I was sad to learn it He wasn't showering You lying And uh
Starting point is 01:25:18 Wasn't it Ashton Kutcher And Mila Kunis They don't really fuck With the bathing Too much There was a bunch of them. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:25:25 I really like it. They're trying to test the rocks. The rocks at Nosh. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. It can't be a chick. It ain't just white. You can't be a chick and not shower.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Yes, you can. I remember one in particular. Certain R&B songs. Yes. I recall. Who said, I don't shower every day because the body has natural oils and cleans itself. No. And she's bad if the world wasn't the world today we would do a real episode about r&b and just their showering techniques no just just just them just talk about their thoughts i'll tell you who that's disgusting
Starting point is 01:26:02 there's a couple of them There's a female Yes You probably like her Yeah you probably Y'all have showered Every day of your life On earth Of course not No
Starting point is 01:26:10 Of course not Got it got it I'm just asking Stupid question We're not staying here If you're a grown woman We're not teaching Women about showering right now
Starting point is 01:26:19 If they don't shower By now They're not gonna get it From the pot There's a couple I'm mad at the girl That showers too much though Like just come get in bed Nah by now, they're not going to get it. There's a couple. I'm mad at the girl that showers too much, though. Just come get in bed.
Starting point is 01:26:30 No, not me. The girl that showers too much make me feel like I got to shower before sex. Nah. No. If you tell me I have to shower before sex, then I'm taking sex. Yeah, after. You might be a before shower, sex shower guy. And after. I'm going sex yeah after you're a you might be a before shower sex shower guy
Starting point is 01:26:46 and then after you doubled F and after I'm going to sleep after I'm definitely going to sleep after I'm not taking no shower after I'm going to sleep I'm falling
Starting point is 01:26:54 fuck you talking about I'm good get these seven minutes I'm going to sleep get these seven minutes yeah you lucky I can't find fucking what a man.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I'm going to sleep. What a man, what a man, what a man. You said you're getting up to go shower. Are you lying? No, I'm not. You just said I'm showering after. If I'm going to shower, it's going to be after. Yeah, I'm going to sleep. But if I'm showering after, I'm going to shower it's going to be after yeah I'm going to sleep
Starting point is 01:27:26 but if I'm showering after I'm going to fuck something else yo word what's wrong with y'all if I'm in the shower I'm putting a whole new outfit on I'm out I'm showering to leave I'm in the shower thinking of my new
Starting point is 01:27:43 my new line oh shit my aunt just crashed at the hookah spot Hey. I'm showering to leave. I'm in the shower thinking of my new line. Oh, shit. My aunt just crashed at the hookah spot. The hookah spot. Yeah. Burnt at me up. Yeah, I got to go. Burnt at me up.
Starting point is 01:27:55 That's how we come home smelling like hookah. I get it. That's smart. Come home with it. That's foresight. Yo, there's no one to rush to her aid but I. Oh, man. All right. That's stupid. Let There's no one to rush to her aid, but I. Oh, man. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:07 That's stupid. Let's see. All right. All right. More seriousness. Serious show. Serious show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Okay. Is it not? Tell me how it's not. Because I don't believe it. All right. Well, you're just ignorant. Okay. This is happening now.
Starting point is 01:28:23 And this is Barry Hank and this is uh barry hankerson of black ground his catalog that has been away from music and streaming for close to 20 years is making its return to streaming and he also has an empire deal for his black rock black ground music catalog which consists of early timberland magoo shit early tank shit that's why that first album two classic two classic tank joints uh we're not out there who else is jojo tony early turn tony braxton and the crown jewel of his collection alia alia now for many many many years there's been a dispute between Aaliyah's family
Starting point is 01:29:08 and him about releasing the music how it's to be released when it's to be released so forth and so on I mind my business on those types of things but now
Starting point is 01:29:18 today August 20th is when this is happening I'm rolling one in a million August 20th 2021 one this is happening? I'm rolling. One in a million is coming. August 20th, 2021. One in a million. Hit streaming to release his follow-up
Starting point is 01:29:31 Romeo Must Die soundtrack. It's on September 3rd. And are you that somebody? I care for you. And the ultimate Aaliyah will become accessible on October 8th. And her self-titled album is September 10th. And what?
Starting point is 01:29:43 The Aaliyah album, the self-titled one, is September 10th. I wonder what the thought process is to album, the self-titled one is September 10th. What are the thought processes to stagger them like that? Try to get number ones every time? Yes. Okay. Or you don't want to flood everybody at the same time. But why not stagger more then?
Starting point is 01:29:55 Whatever. I'm not supporting none of this shit. Sorry. And that's where I differ from most fans. Most fans, fans are fans because you're giving them what they want. That's kind of what I said about Possemas albums. Fans just want it. Fans just want it.
Starting point is 01:30:13 They don't really care how they got it. And that's where I land here with the Aaliyah catalog, the earlier Tank and Tony classic material. Would you support the non-Aaliyah catalog if he releases all that stuff? I'm not supporting any of it. Okay. I'm not supporting him. Got it.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I'm not supporting him. Is there a reason why you're not supporting him? I was about to ask that. I watched the JoJo doc. That's why. Oh, I didn't watch that one. I didn't. I told y'all to watch that doc.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Maybe not y'all. Watch the JoJo doc. watch the jojo doc and jojo talks about being 9 10 11 12 13 talented signing a deal and then having all of her rights revoked not similar to britney spears but not far from it to me and she's been fighting for her rights as an early child star up until adulthood which she recently just she re-recorded all her earlier works. Same as Taylor Swift. So she's publicly now saying, hey, this is not supporting me.
Starting point is 01:31:11 If you want to support me, listen to the re-recordings that I did. The earlier Tank projects, I'm a huge Tank fan. So I know they're not on streaming. And I know he went to court. I also know Tony Braxton went to court. And this article that I read says Timberland and Mag he went to court i also know tony braxton went to court and this article that i read says timberland and magoo went to court and i take all of that info and put it with what i know
Starting point is 01:31:32 about alia's history and her child starness yeah and that gives me a very clear picture of who barry hankerson is and the type of music industry that he comes from. It's an industry that I fight every minute to do away with. The predatory one. I fight my entire life is where we are today, there's progress being made in doing away with
Starting point is 01:31:57 one person owning the rights to your music. Hey, we about to talk about De La Soul next. They gotta take shit back. Yeah, after 30, 40 fucking years and all types of fights and public support
Starting point is 01:32:11 and lawyer fees and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Unpaid royalties. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Most importantly. Yeah, we gonna get to that. But I don't support the music industry
Starting point is 01:32:19 where one person now just owns the rights to all of our favorite acts. And guess what? All the musicians that I love, they ain't never rock with that neither. Yeah, but. Sam Crook. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Prince. Give it to me. Two things. It is business for a lot of these cats. And we just talked about. It's not business if you approaching 10, 11, and 12 years. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Wait a minute. Hold on. We just talked about when Michael Jackson was out buying rights and shit like that. Like, this is, certain people play that game. And you say the same thing. You say, yo, have you signed a contract? Yeah. You gotta rock with the contract.
Starting point is 01:32:53 You didn't read your contract. Get somebody, get a lawyer, read your contract. Know what you're giving up in your contract. A lot of people don't and deal with it later. I think y'all are introducing points that for me are not relevant. At different times, if you listen to me long enough, you'll hear me support both sides. Exactly. But because I understand the position of the struggling artist that has to take the opportunity in front of him no matter what.
Starting point is 01:33:20 And we'll work on getting out of the fuck later. Like I understand that. I also understand the executive that put all his money up and has to get it back somehow. and will work on getting out of the fuck later. Like, I understand that. I also understand the executive that put all his money up and has to get it back somehow. So depending on the situation, because contract details are so minuscule, everybody's situation can be different. Depending on the situation depends on my take.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Okay. It's not fair. It's not fair. What do you mean? You can't say, yo, the contract is binding for this particular person and then say, yo, but the contract is some fuck shit over here for this particular person. Different contracts.
Starting point is 01:33:55 I'm saying that. Different contracts, but you negotiate that. You still negotiate that. You still negotiate that. The overall underlying. A 14-year-old could not have done that. Somebody had to. She had a guardian or something.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Then that's not okay. Then stop. I watched Law & Order enough to know that Olivia be trying to talk to fucking underage people without the parents sometime. What do you think? That don't happen in music? You ain't think anything. Okay. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Wait, stop, stop. You think everything in music is so by the books? No, but Aaliyah can't sign that contract at 11 years old and it be binding. I don't care who talked to her. Wade stop stop You think everything in music Is so by the books No but Aaliyah can't sign that contract At 11 years old And it be binding I don't care Who talked to her
Starting point is 01:34:29 She surely cannot I don't care She has a parent or guardian That is gonna Legally bind Exactly It is void And if it is signed by
Starting point is 01:34:36 So yeah He could go talk to her Or whoever could say whatever Her word don't mean shit Because she's a kid Exactly Some adult gotta sign off on that Exactly
Starting point is 01:34:44 That don't make that okay for me. Britney's dad signed off on a lot of shit, and here we are. Like, that means nothing to me. It's a different circumstance. No, it's not. People's parents and music, unless you come from music, you don't know shit about no fucking music. So you go get a lawyer.
Starting point is 01:35:00 I want you to keep the same exact stance when them niggas bring that puff shit up. I want you to keep the same exact stance when niggas talk about puff fucking people. You're not making sense. How? Because I'm very clearly stating my position, which is I understand both. No, you're wavering at your position at your convenience. I'm a waver when you interrupt me. That's not what I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:35:19 So gain an understanding of what I'm saying. Now let's talk about it. Let's talk about mace. Go ahead. Let's talk about mace. I came in here and said, I don't know. That was my position on Mace and Puff. The internet says I just came for Puff.
Starting point is 01:35:30 But that was my same position with P and Migos. Like, my position is going to be that sometimes. Y'all keep adding all these other facts. I'm saying every one of this nigga's artists was a kid. Y'all could say cool. You're wrong. I don't. Tony Braxton wasn't a kid. Timberland Magoo was not a kid y'all could say cool you're wrong i don't tony braxton wasn't
Starting point is 01:35:45 a kid timbaland was not kids tank wasn't a fucking kid you're taking you're saying alia and jojo are kids the rest of them niggas is not kids okay so the rest of the adults later on went to court okay to say we have a problem with with the way that this man goes about business okay so what's confusing about me saying- As did Puffs artists. They went to court to try and get their shit back. Who went to court? Mace.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Deluxe. When did Mace go to court? I don't know. I got the date in my pocket. Then Google it. Keep going. We will pause and wait. We can keep going. I don't remember a mace court proceeding
Starting point is 01:36:27 i remember mace retiring and going to church when somebody gave him money to produce music that's what i remember i could be off but this is factual stuff so we could google it all i'm saying is if everyone if every last one of your hearts has a problem, I can see through it. Hey, I'm not telling none of y'all what to see through this. Some fans just need the music. Nah, just need it. Some fans don't care. I'm not talking about the pub shit.
Starting point is 01:36:59 I'm talking about with him. If everybody has a problem with it, he might have gave them all bad contracts but you know what they signed those contracts they didn't have a lawyer look over and say yo you're getting fucked i don't know whatever happened we don't know we but what we know is he gave them a contract they signed the contract and then they regretted the contract those are the things we know for every artist he's ever come and come. Yeah, it could be every single artist he's ever met. So now what are you telling me?
Starting point is 01:37:30 That these artists didn't do their due diligence. If he fucking everybody over, somebody got to look up and say, whoa, let's read through this. Let's double check this. Something ain't right. I got it. I'm glad that y'all have
Starting point is 01:37:45 your opinion this guy's history is well known throughout the industry think what the fuck you want i'm telling you why i feel how i feel about him and my stance on streaming and robbing artists especially predator predatory and when you go about in a predatory way underage artists that's never going to change that's never going to change i'm not telling y'all to change your minds have a blast i got one in a million already yeah i got I got all this shit, so I don't care. I got the old Tank stuff. I got the old Tony. I got the I'm Mr. R&B.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I got it all. But don't disappear and then pop back up selling niggas music. And niggas is still around, some of them, if you was lucky to still be here. No, don't do that. It's a case-by-case basis for me. You got everybody cataloged that you kept
Starting point is 01:38:27 all the time and now niggas can't get paid hey niggas already don't get paid from streaming now you're not getting paid
Starting point is 01:38:33 cause you don't own none of the shit that you make to stream like why is the case tell me Mike everyone's shit is different everyone's situation
Starting point is 01:38:39 is different huh go ahead everyone's situation is different in the example of De La Soul which we'll get into next they the record label didn't do their due diligence and clear the samples which is why
Starting point is 01:38:50 they're holding the contract over their heads that's the label fucking up gotcha in uh a situation like taylor swift with scooter i don't know the full details of it but he paid for all the shit to to get produced he owned it legally. I'm not going to just give it to you. I understand that. Even pub shit with Mace. I went and read that up. Yo, Mace is saying y'all offered to buy it back for two mil. I'm a businessman.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I'm not selling you anything back for two mil. Nigga. That don't mean that I'm with kids getting robbed. Just because you made me the offer of two mil don't mean it was a fair market offer. We talked about this shit. I don't have to accept it. We talked about this shit where Dame tried to buy,
Starting point is 01:39:31 sell off his original piece of Rockefeller. And he said Hov tried to buy it off of him first. He didn't like the offer. So I'm going to go sell it myself. Indeed. Just because an offer made, I don't have to take it. That don't mean it's a fair offer. It's not a fair offer. I don't have to accept it. You might think I'm going to go sell it myself. Indeed. Just because an offer made, I don't have to take it. That don't mean it's a fair offer. It's not a fair offer.
Starting point is 01:39:46 I don't have to accept it. You might think I'm desperate and you could just give me whatever. No, you might think it's fair. I don't think it's fair. Exactly. If you want to buy my house for 100 grand, I don't think my house is worth 100 grand. I want 200 grand. I understand.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I don't have to sell it to you. So that's my only thing with the puff situation. After reading more into it, again, you sign this contract. And then there's some other shit I heard which i ain't gonna get into but you sign this contract just because you you disappeared and then you come back and say i want to make an offer to buy my shit off fam fuck out of here i know come come to me with 50 million so my point in that situation is cool if that's gonna be your stance that you signed a contract these are the legally binding terms of this agreement. Uh-huh. That's it.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Right? Uh-huh. You can't say. No. No, yes, it is. That's my opinion. Yes, it is. You can't say, yo, for tanking them, it's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:40:34 It's you putting words in our mouth. I'm talking myself. I know, but you're. You can't say, yo, for tanking them, the contract is some bullshit. But for these niggas, it's not. You can't say that. You can't say, yo, he fucked. Everything that we're saying in response to you isas it's not. You can't say that. You can't say yo he fucked
Starting point is 01:40:46 Everything that we're saying in response to you is that it's circumstantial. I know. And you keep saying it's not. The circumstances are what particular person
Starting point is 01:40:53 is doing the fuckery. That's the circumstance. No. No it's what's being done. That's not true. Okay. I'm not taking Diddy's side
Starting point is 01:41:02 in that but I'm just talking about the Mace situation. It's what's done how it's done within the verbiage of the contract. I'm not talking about Mace. I'm not taking Diddy's side in that, but I'm just talking about the Mace situation. It's what's done, how it's done, within the verbiage of the contract. I'm not talking about Mace. I'm not talking about, I'm talking about Puff has had a bunch of artists on his labels that have complained. A bunch.
Starting point is 01:41:15 It hasn't just been Mace. But it's been a bunch. Yes, that is true. So again, using Joe's standard, now when you got a bunch of niggas up under you that are complaining, where there's smoke, there's fire. So why the fuck do we see the smoke and the fire for this guy, but we don't see it for everybody? Bitch, I've never in my life said when there's smoke, there's fire.
Starting point is 01:41:33 No, I did. I don't say that. I did. But you saying that contradicts me saying that it's all circumstantial. You keep using Puff as the blanket example. I was just using him as an example. There's other motherfuckers in the industry that are doing fuck shit. I was just using him. Use one of them.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Don't use one of the people who they can prove their value to the project. How you know he couldn't do that? I'm not saying that he couldn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't prove his value. Not to the artists. They all took him to court. Joe, you sound crazy right now value? Not to the artist. They all took him to court.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Joe, you sound crazy right now. What does that mean? Just because they took him to court? You sound crazy right now. Got it. You sound nuts. What does that mean? Just because they took him to court? No, I sound like I have 16 albums and mad music negotiations on the model.
Starting point is 01:42:17 No, but common sense has nothing to do with music sense. So that may sound nuts to other people. Common sense has nothing to do with music sense. So what sounds nuts about what I'm saying this year? So you're saying that the artist took him to court, so that means he didn't have a value on their project? That's not what I fucking said. That is exactly what you just said.
Starting point is 01:42:32 No, the fuck it's not. So at any point that you want to actually listen to what the fuck I'm saying, so you can stop just arguing the point. No, I didn't. I said to the artist. You did, though. Then let me talk, then. You did, though.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Go ahead. Are you done? I'm done. I said to the artist, no, he let me talk then you did though go ahead are you done i'm done i said to the artist no he didn't prove his value to them because every one of them took him to court did they win that is what i said to them no they didn't no he didn't prove that i'm not talking about to you or me or fez or what's really happening to the artist that he worked with no he didn't prove his value to them they all wanted him far the fuck away for years for years forever no that's not the same with puff no it's not the
Starting point is 01:43:10 same with all these other niggas you want to keep bringing up that's your opinion that's all i'm talking about it's just my opinion i know so when i bring up my opinion you interject no you keep changing my words but go ahead i i use the analogy I said where there's smoke There's fire No you didn't say that I was paraphrasing And you said No I ain't say that I ain't say that
Starting point is 01:43:29 No you didn't say that I said that His contracts are complicated The verbiage changes And once you sign them It is binding Period That's all I'm saying
Starting point is 01:43:37 Fucking point blank That's all I'm In every situation Once you sign them it's binding Once you sign it It's binding So whether you're getting fucked It's unfortunate that you're getting fucked
Starting point is 01:43:44 They don't need us to explain it. It's binding. Contracts are binding. And I can't get with the predatory on child shit because, like we said, a child can't sign a contract. I agree. Okay, let me make myself clear. At no point am I asking y'all what y'all think. The music industry is predatory to Joe.
Starting point is 01:43:59 There's nothing that y'all can say here to change my mind. I agree with you on that. I'm agreeing. The end. I agree. I agree. Take whatever you want. Hey, it's okay to change my mind. I agree with you on that. I'm agreeing with you. I agree. I agree. Take whatever you want from,
Starting point is 01:44:08 hey, it's okay to fuck the kid. It's okay. You signed it. I don't care. I'm telling y'all my experience and every experience
Starting point is 01:44:14 that I read when it comes to predatory shit, this falls under predatory. I'm not arguing with this binding. Yeah, it's binding.
Starting point is 01:44:22 They signed it. No, this is predatory. So the fuck what? They signed it. I'm with you. I'm agreeing with that. We all agree with that. Wait, wait, it's binding. They signed it. No, this is predatory. So the fuck what? They signed it. I'm with you. I'm agreeing with that. We all agree with that.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Wait, wait, wait, but slow down. And my stance on that don't change because I'm on the artistic side. If you have a bad contract, me, Joe, I'm telling you, Joe Budden practices. Not anybody else. Me. If there's a contract you don't like, rip it up. Because if you're an artist, let me talk up because if you're an artist let me talk because if you're an artist you kind of got to be happy you your job and how you deliver you have to feel
Starting point is 01:44:54 good about the morale if you value it see i'm an artist so i value that something wrong let's talk about let's do it over everybody ain't like No. That's where these situations come from. Because most artists don't know all that's in the contract. Most. Correct. Like, y'all arguing me about shit that's standard. 90% of them don't know. But you know what happens in the next year?
Starting point is 01:45:18 In the next two years? They find out. Yep. They find out. Or when they go try to do something and realize they can't and when they find out they take the necessary course of action to try to change things mustard just did an interview he was talking to gilly and he said listen man it's growing pains everybody got to get fucked and you got to learn from it now you might not agree with that but in this business
Starting point is 01:45:38 i talk about a music sat all the time there it is unfortunately that is our music sat we are agreeing you're gonna come in and get fucked yep how do you deal with getting fucked i'm not listening to none of this shit amazing music by artists i love i buy my album still same i create my playlist still these little robbing thuggery stick up with no gun games that some of these old execs is playing this this ideology is over with is all i'm saying i'm not attacking him he can be the most bad hey ish to your point everything he did worked so you can't attack everything he did is standard back then i I know. That was the face of music. Hey, we about to move into De La Soul, and from there we gonna talk about Puff starting a label.
Starting point is 01:46:30 My issue is, all you niggas that did fuck shit back in the day as the standard, I ain't mad. It ain't the standard now. Correct. I agree. You can't make it the standard now. I don't care about this.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Nah, this ain't how we do things, Barry Hankerson. Today, you cut your deal with Ghazi you do whatever you gotta do fat in that pocket it's yours you created it
Starting point is 01:46:53 but today niggas ain't championing that niggas mad at me cause they think I robbed somebody I'm not disagreeing they not that's not where we at
Starting point is 01:47:01 that's not where we at today watch the JoJo doc and tell me you signed it. It's binding. And if you could do that, then I'm going to give you a pound. Because you an ill nigga. Watch the Britney doc and tell me she signed it.
Starting point is 01:47:12 It's binding. It's different. My passion for this is different. I feel for it differently than y'all going to feel about it. Britney is a different situation. Because that was court ordered. You understand what I'm saying? The court ordered her father to have control of her shit.
Starting point is 01:47:26 It's a different situation than a record label fucking her. It's a different situation. Oh, I just pay attention to the word binding. Because once things are binding, they're binding. Binding for me don't change when it's a record label. If the court says something, it's binding. Right, but she wasn't in contract with her father. They just put him there.
Starting point is 01:47:44 They made him the executor of her shit. Which is why my issue is with the word binding. But again, when we are in agreement, if Parks and I are in agreement, Parks is a man, I'm a man. He has his due diligence to do. He could go hire his own attorney and look over it. I could go hire my own attorney and look over it.
Starting point is 01:48:01 I gave you an opportunity to do your due diligence. If you signed it, you signed it. If you got fucked, you got fucked. I'm not saying it's cool for somebody to fuck anybody in business. I'm not saying that at all. Bro, we talk about this all the time when we play Monopoly.
Starting point is 01:48:14 True. Every time. True. When we do a deal, we do a co-op deal, we laying it all out. Why? Because that one thing you don't lay out,
Starting point is 01:48:24 you getting fucked. Opens up a door for a loophole. And that's what happens. And you learn from it. Yep. I done been fucked by you in a deal.
Starting point is 01:48:32 I ain't really been fucked by you in a deal. I don't do that. But you learn from it. Yeah. So you start trying to lay all that shit out in them 60 seconds.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Exactly. And that's why I take pride in like saying I'm not in the music business to people. Like when they're trying to give me music, it feels like I'm saying a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:48:46 But for me, I'm so proud. Some of this shit is so stupid. This is stupid to me. What is? This. All of this. And this is common, normal practice. I just think it's desperation.
Starting point is 01:48:56 I think it's just desperation. You're a broke person. Well, that's why it's predatory is because music targets desperate people. But it's no different than these car lots. I agree with you. All of that shit is the same. I'm not saying it's not predatory. I'm saying that it is predatory across the board.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Yes. And across the board. You look for people who don't know better and get them to sign a fucked up payday loan. All of this shit. You look for people in fucked up positions. There you go. And you give them something up front. They don't know what they're giving you.
Starting point is 01:49:22 No. It's all predatory. They don't care. At that point, I don't care. Just give me this, what I want right here. I'm not thinking about the future until I realize, oh shit, I am fucked. The credit card with the 30% interest, it allows me to buy some shit today. Today.
Starting point is 01:49:37 I don't know what it's going to cost me. That's all I care about is getting my shit today. And then later on, you're going to crack me over my head with the fees and the interest and all that other shit. But I don't care about that. You can buy a $10,000 car with a 27% interest rate on it. Indeed. So, again, it's all bullshit. But, again, it's just how the cost of doing business and our generation.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Right. And it's knowing and not knowing. That's what it is. Yeah, education. That's all. It all boils down to knowing and not knowing. That's what it is. Yeah, education. That's all. It's all balls down to knowing and not knowing. Your due diligence. I'm not agreeing with this.
Starting point is 01:50:11 I'm just saying your due diligence, it's just that. It's yours to do. Exactly. So you'll listen to Aaliyah's stuff. If I was a streaming person and I wanted to hear it, absolutely. Again, because again, I just look at it. You can't pick and choose. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:33 You can't pick and choose when you're on the side of the fuckery. Yeah, but if you're picking, like he said, if you're picking, he's fucking somebody, he's fucking somebody, he's fucking somebody, and he's fucking somebody. He just wearing a condom. Well, this actually kind of goes back to the accusation versus the reality thing like we talked about in uh the no no no no no because this is different because we have contracts right you get what i'm saying like hey if i did something illegal or if i did something take me to court and win it right show it but that's not always the case either because now i got more money than you i could tie you up my attorneys is better than yours.
Starting point is 01:51:05 I could drag you in court for three or four years till you run broke. Also true. You know what I'm saying? Like I heard Donald Trump, one of his contractors, say basically they was like, yo, take this settlement or not.
Starting point is 01:51:20 And said, yo, we got in-house counsel. You got to hire an attorney. We'll drag this shit so long that even if you win, your attorney's going to get all the money. You're going to get less than what we give you in the settlement. My little brother just sued his former job and got some big-name attorney to represent him. And when he told me about this shit, I was like, bro, you're not going to win this.
Starting point is 01:51:40 He sent me the letter that his attorney sent to me. He was like, listen, the attorney was talking king shit. Yo, look, just settle because I'm going to tie y'all up in court for at least three years i'm gonna tell you now they're telling and they settled when they looked at it like shit he's right he's like i'm gonna tie you up in court for the next three years and it's gonna cost you about and gave him a number and or you could just settle or you could just settle and my brother called me he's like yo I won I'm like oh shit you won or you settled
Starting point is 01:52:07 well he got some money oh yeah so they settled so again it's big bank take a little bank yeah often times
Starting point is 01:52:14 a lot and not just the music business no no no we talking about in general yeah entertainment and a bunch of different entities on enemies of the state
Starting point is 01:52:22 uh Sadak you don't say on enemies I'm thinking you talking about Will Smith no and a bunch of different entities. On enemies of the state, Sadak. You don't say. On enemies... I'm thinking you're talking about Will Smith. I'm never talking about Will Smith, by the way. On enemies of the state,
Starting point is 01:52:35 it's Sadak about a kid and his parents. They were targeted by the U.S. government over the QAnon, just some secret files, the dark, dark web. That the little kid had. And the family had to move to Russia, then they moved over here and then they was looking like it was espionage. It was all big shit, but at the end he settled.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Spoiler alert. The little boy. He settled. But he was saying, I ain't doing any of that. But I mean, if a jury heard all the shit that they was about to say, I'm out of here. Same thing that Grant said. Right?
Starting point is 01:53:11 What are you going to do? Can we talk about that for a minute? Because that interview is going to come out this week. I can't wait. And I really can't wait. What do you do? They control the media. They control what you hear, what you don't hear. We can't talk about Grant yet. What. What do you do? They control the media. They control what you hear,
Starting point is 01:53:25 what you don't hear. We can't talk about Grant yet, though. What the fuck do you do? You are fighting an entity that's unbeatable. I don't want to talk about Grant. I want to talk about fucking Ghostface Killer
Starting point is 01:53:35 being in his basement and nobody being none the wiser and looking like total idiots and buffoons having to talk about our top 20, top 30, top 10, whatever, in front
Starting point is 01:53:45 of Ghostface and not knowing that that was Ghostface because he had a mask on and he was slimmer. We should have really kept the shit running. We should have kept it running. That was amazing. Like, he sat down. He sat down and we just jumped in there and just started. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:58 And we still didn't know it was him. No, I knew it was him. I didn't know it was him. The nigga dapped me up and said, Ghost. And I'm like, I ain't. Like, I knew it was him. We started. I know Mad Nigga The nigga dapped me up and said, Ghost. I'm like, I ain't. Like, I knew it was him. I know Mad Nigga's name, Ghost. Yeah, like.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Watch Power. That don't tell me nothing. No, I heard his voice. When I heard his voice, I knew it was him. I didn't know it was him until. Yeah, but you hearing his voice don't mean nothing to us. Like, you build the houses. You recognize that was Ghostface.
Starting point is 01:54:19 All right, cool. Parks. We should. Yeah. No, Parks. We should be alerted Parks really Parks is
Starting point is 01:54:27 Parks is standing there like We should be alerted No Parks is outside If Ghostface is coming to your house You should know You should know I have a red carpet somewhere
Starting point is 01:54:37 That I can roll out Yeah With a W on it Yeah Like that Yeah No that was That was crazy
Starting point is 01:54:44 That was crazy Nah but That was great I felt like No, that was crazy. That was crazy. Nah, but that was great. I felt like shit the rest of the night. That's crazy. Nah, that was great, though. Nah, that was super great. Nah, that was great, man. That was great.
Starting point is 01:54:54 It's telling that we argue like that all the time. We haven't had an argument in a long time, though. We haven't played Monopoly in a long time. But tell them why we haven't played Monopoly in a long time. So what else we got, man? I'm not doing this shit, man. Yo, it's over? Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Really? Yes. Yes. Like, officially. Yeah. It's over. Yeah, four-time champ. Me.
Starting point is 01:55:16 It's over. Four in a row. Even Mike didn't do that. He went to play baseball for a minute. Yeah, you got to tell them. Yeah, fans, don't be alarmed. Ish is my arguing friend. We do that casually, quick, and get right back to friendship.
Starting point is 01:55:32 No, let me just tell y'all. Yeah, it's fine. They do this shit. It's fine. Just to argue. We yell. We laugh. It be shit that-
Starting point is 01:55:38 I love that about us. I don't even think they be as passionate about it. I need that. I need that in one friend. And you're that friend. You two niggas are... They just build houses and go argue with me
Starting point is 01:55:49 about the music contrast. God damn it. Imagine me coming, that's the wrong molding. No. You cannot build a bathroom like that. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:56:01 You can't put them cabinets up there. You can't glue that there. Just imagine that. I think it would smack the shit out of me. Anyway. Daylight Soul, man.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Daylight Soul. Gotta give them the flowers, man. No, no, no, no. I don't have to get them the flowers first. First, I can address these fucking cocksuckers
Starting point is 01:56:18 that said I'm coming in here to cry about this. They said I'm coming in here to give them some tears. You got tears of joy queued up? I'll get it queued up if you guys get to give them some tears. You got tears of joy queued up? I don't get it queued up if you guys get to talking.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Go ahead. I get why they would say that. Why? You were sad, bro. You cried. You shed tears over the news when it first hit. Yeah, but don't make the joke if y'all not going to believe that that's who I am. See?
Starting point is 01:56:39 Don't make that joke. Don't make the joke. Oh, you cried over De La Soul. Okay. that joke don't make the joke oh you cried over de la soul okay yes the person that cried over de la soul who i've never met their contracts on tv that person is probably not going to de la soul not that guy and if he is Darn good actor And most of y'all know I didn't get my daredevil role
Starting point is 01:57:08 When I tried out I tried to get some acting gigs They gave them all to Drake Fucking Joey Badass Who else? Fucking Yachty's getting Everybody getting them but me I ain't that great of actor
Starting point is 01:57:19 Joey Badass killing them Daylight So I don't watch this show So I don't know It's good actually You haven't watched it yet know. It's good, actually. This shit is... You haven't watched it yet? No.
Starting point is 01:57:26 It's not a doc. Well. Or and they're not cocaine cowboys. They shooting out. They selling cocaine. It might be. Y'all don't have luxury eyes.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Oh, man. He want to see 200 bricks. He don't want to see 20. No, I saw 200 bricks. I saw power. I've seen Kanan. I've seen Scarface. I've seen all the interpretations of the guys handling the drugs and what they have to deal with.
Starting point is 01:57:53 I mean, how many times you going to just keep repackaging something for me? I am going to watch BMF. But I don't care about how Kanan grew up. I don't care. It's good so far. It's good. Everybody says it's good. But they told me the last one
Starting point is 01:58:05 was about Tariq nah it wasn't that good that shit was alright it was okay it wasn't bad there was no bad acting in there that's what made that bad I root for 50 Cent
Starting point is 01:58:12 because I like where he's going and what he's doing and I know what he has to I know the challenges I think I know some of the challenges that he has to come across
Starting point is 01:58:21 and I root for that but outside of that like I'm happy for life got picked up by a different network like I just for that. But outside of that, like, I'm happy For Life got picked up by a different network. I just like his business. I thought they would.
Starting point is 01:58:29 I like his business. IMDB picked it up. Well, that's the thing. You don't have to. If I make For Life and we do two successful seasons on ABC and ABC says, hey, we good on y'all, this is the ownership games. Back to the Barry Hankerson conversation. Hey, I own For Life.
Starting point is 01:58:44 There's 30 million other networks and places that this could go and live and we're going to continue this and that's just that on that. So I do look forward to BMF. But De La Soul. Two years after the decades-long feud between De La Soul
Starting point is 01:58:59 and their former label Tommy Boy Records went very public, a resolution appears to, let me cut this music off, A resolution appears to have been reached. And if the report is accurate, which we've heard from De La Soul it is now, it officially puts the plugs in control of their own legacy. Talib Kweli surfaced with the scoop after years of being taken advantage of by the recording industry in the worst possible ways.
Starting point is 01:59:21 De La Soul now owns all of the rights to their masters and is in full control of the amazing music that they have created. Round of applause for De La Soul. Another group that has stuck together and not been a part of no messy shit. And this is why, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We talked about that.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Yeah. And that's why I fight with you they signed whatever they signed in 89 at some point the artist should get the right to fight back
Starting point is 01:59:50 at some point it don't have to be the next year the next year but it shouldn't take De La Soul 30 to 35 40 years
Starting point is 01:59:57 to renegotiate a proper contract it shouldn't have took me 20 years to get out of my publishing deal they recouped in year one off Pump It Up.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Like, why do you need the other 19? I signed it, so I won't argue with y'all, but I'm fighting. I'm fighting. I'm with artists fighting when it's right. Now, you got to live with the results if you do. If you're fighting somebody that adds a lot of value to your situation, now they're magically gone and you never caught another lick again then sorry what we all got to live with de la soul i couldn't be more happy for y'all i'm not gonna cry i did that already but i couldn't be more happy for y'all
Starting point is 02:00:36 unfortunately for me that's half the battle it's half the battle good for you round of applause again now you young fucking stupid ignorant fucks out there now what are y'all gonna do now what are y'all gonna do niggas gonna stop talking to me about my hip-hop how i move in hip-hop what i do my views my plans my mood nah now what y'all gonna do fans yeah now what hey go support appropriate coming off the barry hankerson Now what y'all going to do? Fans. Yeah. Now what? Hey. Go support. Appropriate coming off the Barry Hankerson conversation.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Show it. Y'all going to stream De La Soul? Are y'all going to listen to De La Soul? Who, the kids? Anybody. No, just the fans in general. Everybody that has so much to say. The streaming people.
Starting point is 02:01:25 New fight now. You got your shit back. You'll make the two pennies that we make from streaming. I ain't doing too much rejoicing. Great for them. That's three niggas it's great for. Too many artists. Too many the the the fight probably i probably won't be alive to see the end of the fight between the artists and the machines but boy rage in the machine has never felt
Starting point is 02:01:57 more truthful than today congratulations to de la soul and the fight continues hopefully the fans stream their shit listen to their shit, learn their shit, appreciate their shit, find out why for so many old heads this was an important conversation. Find out why so many of us stopped in our tracks. And I expect that disconnect to be large because even in talking about the Lox Dipset verses, the disconnect was large.
Starting point is 02:02:24 It was a lot of y'all that was kids when Dipset large. It was a lot of y'all that was kids when dip set was out and a lot of y'all that damn near wasn't born when the locks was out. What the fuck am I talking to you niggas
Starting point is 02:02:31 about anything for? About day loss. Any, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Shit was the late 80s. What the fuck am I
Starting point is 02:02:38 talking to y'all about Saturday for? You niggas never skated without falling. They never skated, nigga. They never skated. Think about that. Without falling. No, they never skated without falling? They never skated, nigga. They never skated. Think about that.
Starting point is 02:02:45 Without falling. No, they never skated. Yo, this nigga's a retard. You can't say that. That's offensive. I mean, we've offended everybody this past time. It's totally fine.
Starting point is 02:02:57 And moving on, again, congratulations to De La Soul. We love you. Job well done by the people with our cries for help. Yeah, beautiful thing to see. And I'm sure somehow in here, hey, Tommy boy, toodles to you. Indeed.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Toodles to you. Next podcast, I'm coming in here to ask how Billboard came up with their little list. Which list? Yeah, which one? That little 20 top power players, whatever the fuck they was talking about. Oh, that's politics. You know that. Yeah, but I wish everything Billboard puts out, they would say. Oh, that's politics. You know that. Yeah, but I wish everything
Starting point is 02:03:26 Billboard puts out, they would say, yo, it's politics in this. Yeah. They say it by saying this is our list. I'm going to say it next podcast by asking some questions that I think the Billboard committee maybe should have asked to themselves. I thought of something. I'm not doing it now because we later in our
Starting point is 02:03:42 broadcast. But Billboard... See, that's why I love being retired. No. That right there. Love being self-employed. No, not true. No, no, no. But being retired.
Starting point is 02:03:55 Retired. I don't have to keep the relationship with Billboard. There's plenty of rappers that are self-employed. But they can't say, Billboard, what the fuck are you doing? Nope. Because they got to play that game. Because they still got to play that game. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:04 I like, ain't no song. Ain't got to talk to you niggas about it. I don't got the fuck are you doing? Nope. Because they got to play that game. They still got to play that game. I like, ain't no song. Ain't got to talk to you niggas about it. I don't got to talk to you niggas. I can tell you, I think that's fuck shit. It's like what the retired athletes doing. When they get up there and start talking they shit. Like, yo, I'm not in the game. I ain't got to play nice with none of y'all.
Starting point is 02:04:22 Got you. They put Tom Brady in the Hall of Fame. We're not staying there, but I watched that shit and felt like he should have had a double-breasted jacket. Wait, time out. What? You mean Peyton Manning. Oh, one of them. They put one of them niggas in there.
Starting point is 02:04:38 I'm like, Tom Brady just won the Super Bowl. You think Peyton washed his legs? One of them niggas in there. Yo, what are you doing? I'm like, huh? They put somebody in there. What the fuck? Do you think he washed his legs? One of the niggas in there. Yo, what are you doing? I'm like, huh? He put somebody in there. What the fuck? Do you think he washed his legs?
Starting point is 02:04:45 I meant Peyton Manning, but Tom Brady said he was going to the ceremony to make sure that Peyton Manning was retired. I thought that was cute. That's dope. I thought that was pretty cute. That's dope. And Peyton Manning has never said the wrong thing ever still. Nah, he don't flex.
Starting point is 02:05:01 He don't flex. Still. Facts. Him, Beyonce, The Rock play. Still. Facts. Him, Beyonce, The Rock. Usher. Usher. Those are my three.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Usher too. What, that never says anything incorrect? Never. Never. Never, ever.
Starting point is 02:05:18 You don't even know nothing about these niggas. The people that are like global phenomenons. We don't know nothing about it. I don't know how The Rock drinks his coffee. Kendrick might be in that conversation too. Mad of him. There's a few of them.
Starting point is 02:05:31 He is. He keeps that level of mysticism. Some people want to be in front of the camera. Let's not just brush over that. What? Did you say mysticism? I ain't gonna lie. It's the proper word.
Starting point is 02:05:46 Now, hold up, man. No bullshit. I sat here, man. Nah, nah, that's him. Nah, that's him. He studied. It's really him. Nah, nah, you studied.
Starting point is 02:05:55 You read. Nah, it's you. You read. Nah, it's you. That nigga reading audio books. He's reading audio books. That nigga said mysticism. But look, ain't stumbling nothing.
Starting point is 02:06:08 He said that shit like a record. And it kept going. Nah, nah. Let's highlight that. What's wrong with you, nigga? How you even spell that? That's black excellence. Nah, that's not black excellence.
Starting point is 02:06:18 That nigga a white girl taught him that shit. And she used that shit on that argument. I'm tired of your mysticism. I'm sick of this mysticism argument I'm tired of your mysticism I'm sick of this mysticism I'm tired of it yo yo yo that's funny though alright
Starting point is 02:06:34 did he announce did he announce his plans to launch an R&B only label he says we can own the genre because we damn sure don't own hip hop right now yikes big facts huge I'm biased Says we can own the genre because we damn sure don't own hip hop right now. Yikes.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Big facts. Huge. I'm biased. Y'all talk. No, I think that's dope. When he says that we don't own hip hop, does he mean bad boy? No, I think he means like the ownership. Okay.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Like, I don't know. You know, music ain't really my bag, but who owns the labels? Not us. The record companies, not the labels, the companies. He's saying that artists don't know. Music ain't really my bag, but who owns the labels? Not us. The record companies, not the labels. The companies. Italians. He's saying that artists don't own music. Multinationals. He's saying that artists, and T-Pain just went on a similar rant.
Starting point is 02:07:13 He said that last year, music was responsible for like, and I'm not, don't quote me right now. I'm freestyling. He said something. 17 billion. Yeah, it was only 17 billion, exactly. And he said that the artists made 12% of that. All artists.
Starting point is 02:07:26 That's crazy. All. Every genre, every artist, there's a gazillion artists. The artists made 12% of that. That is insane, man. Yeah. Yeah, sick. Because of binding contracts.
Starting point is 02:07:40 Mm-hmm. I'm not, nah, fuck that. Yo. But, okay. I wouldn't have thought it was that small of a percentage. I thought it was smaller. I thought that was too big. I thought 12 was high. Diddy says, and I'm not signing
Starting point is 02:07:55 any artists because if you know better, you do better. I'm doing 50-50 partnerships with pure transparency. That's the thing. Clap it up. The new label is so that we can's the thing. Clap it up. The new label. Okay, clap it up. The new label is so that we can own the genre. We don't own hip-hop right now. We have a chance to.
Starting point is 02:08:15 And I'm going to make sure that we own R&B. End quote. Oh, he goes on to say, I'm making a classic. This album will be the first release since 2015. Make a money, Mitch. Mixtape. Love Era has already turned over a new leaf for the end of the year and Chucky Thompson
Starting point is 02:08:28 was working on this project he was working on a Puff project that's dropping in September I've been saying for weeks how I'm super excited about that one thing for Puff
Starting point is 02:08:38 if there's one thing he knows how to do no no no Puff has an ear for music that is parallel he gonna make an album. You're going to make some shit. Yo, that nigga could take us,
Starting point is 02:08:47 well, take Joe out, us three in here and have us in a group and that shit will come out all right. No bullshit. That nigga has an ear for music like no other. Everything.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Be like day 17. Which day would you be? Day nine. Day 1, nigga. Day 1. I see what you did. I like that. That's your new rap name now. Day 1. Day 1. Fuck Day 1 doing? Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 02:09:21 Yo, if you introduce yourself as Day 1, I might snuff you. Yo, no, boy, you deserve it. You deserve it. Yo. Yo, shout out to Puff. Shout out to this label. Can't wait to see the arms be accented that way.
Starting point is 02:09:33 What I like about this, and like he said in his statement, if you know better, you do better. I love the acknowledgement part there. I was going to touch on that. Like, listen, I did arguably some whatever. Whatever you want to call it. I know better, and I'm going to do better starting now. I'm doing 50-50 partnerships with Pure Transparency. Like, that right there alone is, he should get another clap for that, man.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Yeah, he should hit the little button thing. I do. But when people do right, I'm all for it. Right to wrongs. Dog, you said $17 billion, and only 12% went to the artist. Across all genres of music. All music, period. I just feel like any time you get a chance to play this song, you should play it.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Yeah. Yeah. period. I just feel like anytime you get a chance to play this song you should play it. Standing by my opinion that Dre might have a long day if Puff get out of bed. I'm standing by it. I stand by it. I'm standing with you. Fuck you talking about,
Starting point is 02:10:39 nigga. It ain't many with us on that. Yeah, it's not. It's not many with us on that. You're bugging. I'm telling you something. Who them? The rest of them. It's just me and you really over here. Yeah, it's not. It's not many with us on that. You're bugging. I'm telling you something. Who them? The rest of them.
Starting point is 02:10:47 It's just me and you really over here. Don't look at Parks. Don't look at us. Don't look at... What the fuck are you looking at him for? I'm asking his opinion. Oh, okay. Puff has a long day with Dre.
Starting point is 02:11:00 That's a slugfest, man. Puff coming in with some punches. No doubt. Oh, all right now. All right now. I almost want to say something to make the West Coast mad. I think Puff might pass. I'll be right there.
Starting point is 02:11:15 Hey, yo, Puff. I've learned my lesson. We'll believe it. This is my belief. I've learned my lesson. So I ain't jumping out saying who going to mop nobody up. You're not disrespecting Puff. No, but I'm not going to disrespect Dre.
Starting point is 02:11:29 I'm not disrespecting Dre. Dre is Dre. But to say he'll get mopped and all of that? Nobody said that. Nobody said mop. What'd you say? What was you just saying? Joe said Dre would have a long day.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Dre would have a long day. I think they both have a long day. Dre got a pack of lunch. That ain't no easy win. If he wins. I don't think it's an easy win on either side. I think Dre has a pack a lunch. I think they both have a long day. Dre got to pack a lunch. That ain't no easy win. If he wins. I don't think it's an easy win on either side. I think Dre has a longer day. I think Dre has a longer day, too.
Starting point is 02:11:51 He might not get no sleep. I think he takes more Tylenol than Buff. That day. I don't know about that. Yeah, I agree. I know y'all don't. And I'm not never going to disrespect either one of them, nigga, so I'm shutting up. I'm minding my business.
Starting point is 02:12:01 They both are who they are. I know, but one has R&B in their wheelhouse and one don't really. And that's what separates it for me. They could both be hip-hop heavyweights, but Jodeci gonna come on at some point. And you gonna play Nate Dogg. Different vibe. And that 112 is gonna hit. Yeah, different vibe.
Starting point is 02:12:17 The total is gonna hit. Or Jodeci come on and he go play some hard shit. Because we've seen that happen. We've seen, it's who dictates the narrative. You can go that bag. My bag is deeper here. I'm not letting you get me out of this.
Starting point is 02:12:32 And I'm going to hard record classic anthem you upside your fucking head. Yeah, I was thinking about this this morning, off of this Puff Dre shit. Dipset, Bobby Brown, and Ne-Yo, and Teddy Riley. I can't believe it went that way for him. Neo didn't get mopped. And Fabulous, for me. I can't believe that one still. Neo ain't getting mopped.
Starting point is 02:12:54 Oh, and Fab. No, Neo got mopped. No, not to me. No, no, no. Neo got mopped. Not to me. Only to you. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:13:02 You go. I have that. It was clear. It was clear. We watched it together. Did we? I didn't watch have that clear it was clear we watched it together did we I didn't watch that with y'all I was at y'all's he got smoked
Starting point is 02:13:10 but dumb niggas I'm a Neo gato but nah me too he didn't get he didn't get mopped to me
Starting point is 02:13:16 Jonte started pulling out that Mariah shit man Neo had a headache yes he did you ever seen him I didn't until that day
Starting point is 02:13:24 I was like oh shit his head his head's was like, oh shit. His head's pounding right now. Oh shit. Bobby Brownhead, it was pounding. The niggas I be thinking have more hits and more flash and pizzazz.
Starting point is 02:13:39 They got it. They just don't present it well. They be getting smacked around, boys. Again, I've learned. We know they catalogs But The matchup matters I hope Cam Flight was delayed Going back
Starting point is 02:13:51 To wherever I hope that Give him some time to think Just have some more time in New York Get out of here nigga Nah Hey make your trip out of New York Fucking stressful
Starting point is 02:14:01 Now the presentation Delay that shit The presentation matters Like Keith Sweat was up there Looking like he was In the gym that trip out of New York fucking stressful. Now the presentation matters. Like, Keith Sweat was up there looking like he was in the gym that two hours before the shit. That's a nice way to put it.
Starting point is 02:14:13 Keith Sweat looked like he just fucked your aunt. Came out there swaggy-licious. Now your aunt opened off him. One day I'm going to talk about that. Some of y'all niggas' aunts be on me. Then I'll be feeling bad You ever had that talk with Alright nah We'll save this
Starting point is 02:14:31 We'll save this for Patreon You ever talk to your mom About some of her friends Yo What's wrong You better not have talked To your mother about her friends I talk to my mom about everything.
Starting point is 02:14:45 No, not her friends. Joey? Yo. I'm kidding. All right, we offer Diddy congratulations. Can't wait to see the artists that end up on his label. Diddy knows how to make an album, so we'll see. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:59 All right, DaBaby took his apology back. It ain't work. Diddy, officially? Or he just deleted it? He deleted it. How else do you take apology back it ain't work did he officially or he just deleted it how else do you take apology that's official yeah i'll put this out y'all still killing me all right man fuck this give my apology back i mean that shit no way fuck y'all i mean oh shit that's they took him off some records yeah too right no all the records no not some is his album in stores they took him off some records. Yeah. That's true, right? Yeah. No, all the records. No, not some. Is his album in stores?
Starting point is 02:15:31 They took him off of everything fucking Dually. I did read up. See, and that's my issue with the record. I read an explanation as to why this happened, and they said it wasn't. He just a gays. They took him off everything. No. He did. He said.
Starting point is 02:15:43 No, I know what he did. What do you mean, why did this happen? We know why it happened. No, no, no. This also happened. Tell me the Dua Lipa rollout. What she... What Dua did. What happens when the original is... What Dua starts upticking and the remix
Starting point is 02:15:59 drops it, like drops down in the chart, they switch it. This has happened to someone else I believe it was Nikki was taken off of a credit and it wasn't
Starting point is 02:16:09 people got upset and they explained why it's like yo the original is doing better than the remix is so we switch it out Ice shut the fuck up
Starting point is 02:16:18 I'm telling you what the explanation says Ice you're a fucking what do they call it you're an apologist for something I didn't apologize.
Starting point is 02:16:26 Anytime the word, no, but when the word apologist is behind something, oh, buddy, just turn your Wi-Fi off. Ice, this Dua Lipa song is five years old. Nigga, shut up. Shut up. No, I'm telling you what they said, not me. They are liars. Definitely liars.
Starting point is 02:16:46 He offended the gays. Dua fucked a girl, so she's not with it. The end. Hey, somebody else took him off a record. Somebody else took him off some shit. Who was it? I don't know. Who else took him off?
Starting point is 02:17:00 Oh, I don't know. Oh, Kanye. Kanye took himself off of the- No, he pulled the song off. He pulled the song off of some shit I never heard. I don't listen to none of Kanye. Kanye took himself off of the- No, he pulled the song off of DSPs. Pulled the song off of some shit I never heard. I don't listen to none of you niggas. It was the remix. I don't care what y'all are pulling off.
Starting point is 02:17:10 To which one? Na Na Na. With 2 Chainz. I didn't even know a Na Na Na song was out. See? He pulled it off DSPs. The only Na Na I know is Ill Na Na. There's a new Ill.
Starting point is 02:17:20 Is there Ill or Na Na? Ill or Na Na? Nah, they took Na Na off. They said Na to Na Na. All right, took it off. Yeah, he pulled that off DSPs. Wow. Wow, you heard what he said.
Starting point is 02:17:32 That's my problem with streaming, though. Not for nothing. Oh, tell us. Stream that pie, nigga. No, I'm going to tell you. No, move. For real. It's important.
Starting point is 02:17:47 Listen up. That's my problem with streaming, though, is if I have this record downloaded in my phone from a DSP, and then you decide, yo, I don't want this song out no more for whatever reason. Oh. Now, that record is now pulled away. I don't have that anymore. I can't listen to the out no more For whatever reason Oh Now That record is now pulled away I don't have that anymore I can't listen to the song anymore It's over
Starting point is 02:18:09 You're borrowing the song Yeah You're renting music That's my beef with streaming You don't own this music You're not Yo I got this downloaded on my phone No
Starting point is 02:18:17 You are renting songs I'm paying Each of you streaming platforms For what you allow me To listen to Yeah there was that thing Where if you weren't Wasn't hooked up to wifi Each of you streaming platforms for what you allow me to listen to. Yeah, there was that thing where if you wasn't hooked up to Wi-Fi, you couldn't even stream a song.
Starting point is 02:18:31 Yeah. They put a whole lot of roadblocks. I was trying to Insta Live over the weekend and just jam out, play some music with the people. They cut that shit off 90 times. They cut your Insta Live? They're going to cut your Insta Live. Hey.
Starting point is 02:18:44 They're going to cut your Insta Live. You can't play music. I put the little thing, hey, I don't own any of this stuff. I tried to talk over it. It didn't matter. They cut that shit right off. Really? That's where we are now, man.
Starting point is 02:18:56 It's a new age monopoly going on, yeah, with music. That's why this ownership talk is important, because of what you can do with ownership. That's why. So they own it. They do what they want. That's that on that uh my advice to people and i'm gonna say this until i'm blue in the face and i will continue to say this buy your music build your libraries man because yo when they decide no this record is gone when they
Starting point is 02:19:18 decide they stop doing shit for the look how about that well everything i used to saying is right i'm adding to that style y'all stop doing shit for the look like what you mean i get it but if who the fuck is dualipa to talk about the baby anything i am positive that the label damn near begged the baby to jump on one of these dualipa records to get some oh probably promotion marketing hood shit none of these dualipa records even sound like the baby should be on it but but it's marketing. It's the game. If you play the game, it's the game. And now here you go. Because it was just the game, it's get him off my song.
Starting point is 02:19:49 Get him off my song. Oh, my God. I don't want to do it with this person. Oh, my God. And I understand that because she's an advocate. But that might not even be Dua Lipa, though. Well, she's saying it from her Twitter, from her everything. Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Starting point is 02:20:00 Versus who's the other little clout-chasing white girl I used to say was clout-chasing? Miley Cyrus, who said, hey, I'm a part of that community. He was ignorant. We need to speak to him. Let's educate him. Hey, reach out to me if you want to kick it. That's what she said. That's dope.
Starting point is 02:20:15 Yeah, I like that. Super dope. I didn't know she said that. That's dope. She said that. She said that. And that's that on that. Moving on.
Starting point is 02:20:22 Moving. Moving right along. Is there anything else we need to touch here? Pause. Yo, I don't know who needs to hear this. Kanye's not dropping anything on August 15th. Or 16th or 17th. August. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:38 He ain't dropping nothing in August. What'd you think about this Don C and Chubb's little back and forth? I see what they're doing now. Now I understand Khan's tweet a little more. I understand Karen's comment a little more. And I see what's going on here. I see what's going on.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Can I say it? Say it. Everything's a rollout. Now these two dudes I could see feeling like they could use each other. Because these are two of the most we could use them dudes that we have. Kanye's a Drake fan. Drake's a a kanye fan like i get it i don't think either one of them needs it but i do think that they wanted to be friends with each other past their disputes so i'm happy to see it but the writing's on the wall i don't know who's on whose album i don't know if drake is on kanye's album or kanye is on drake's album or Kanye is on Drake's album or both.
Starting point is 02:21:25 Or both. Or both. Or both. No, both are on each other's albums. Both of these albums don't have a single. Maybe at some point the single for both albums features both artists. Allegedly, the single for Kanye's album
Starting point is 02:21:39 is the Weeknd and Lil Baby record. I read somewhere that it actually came out in Japan whether it be by mistake or what it was on it was available to purchase in Japan but I can see Drake hopping on there and smoking all of them Weekend, Baby, Kanye, anybody on there I can see them doing that LeBron is saying
Starting point is 02:21:56 certified lover boy is coming soon people my brother ain't fucking around too many people have told us this is coming soon I think this is coming soon. I think this is coming soon. And I don't think Kanye is dropping until it does. That little cartoon that's floating around, I believe it. That shit was hilarious.
Starting point is 02:22:13 That's hilarious. And I believe it. I believe it. So we'll see, man. Hopefully we continue to receive really good music for the summer. Summer's flying by. The music not so much. Summer's gone. It's over. It's over. Just for the summer. Summer's flying by. The music not so much. Summer's gone.
Starting point is 02:22:25 It's over. It's over. It's over. All this other shit, do you think Drake will roll it out or he'll just drop some unknown shit? He's been rolling out for a few years. I think it's time now. It's time.
Starting point is 02:22:35 It's going to come. Okay. They at the last phase of whatever the rollout is. I mean, do you think it'll be a, hey, my album is out Friday type of rollout or we're going to give you a date? Yeah. No, he did all that already. He didn't give us a date. He still did everything else.
Starting point is 02:22:51 He went to Dodger Stadium. He went to the projects. He put an EP out. He put an unreleased album out. He made his friends tweet. He showed us pictures in studio. He broke his arm, rehabbed himself, came back. The Raptors won a chip.
Starting point is 02:23:04 He's finished with his side he's all of the side ventures he put cologne out he put a candle out the sneakers just came he fucked the last 30 girls he thought of it's you know oh shit how's she doing i'm gonna fuck her that's like there's no more it's a light music is coming nowga put out a fucking kick. Y'all want to talk about it? Shit's horrible. That's it. That's our take. That's it.
Starting point is 02:23:33 We ain't got to talk about that. Like I said, the funny thing from that came because that picture went up. Don C called it plan B or something. And then Chubb said, yo, see us outside. With the middle finger. I don't get it. They can put those. Them shits look like they from Kohl's.
Starting point is 02:23:53 The Kohl's Nikes. Them shits is the fucking Marshalls Nikes. It's disgusting. No, it was the TJ Maxx's. Them shits look like. Them shits look like the joints my mom's be like, yo, what you thinking? Yeah, don't laugh.
Starting point is 02:24:10 Word. That's exactly what they look like. The Coles joints. Oh, man. Them shits terrible. If I give this nigga a fucking private jet and he hand me these bum ass sneakers back, I will throw this shit in his face. Look, just that fast
Starting point is 02:24:25 Joe fucked up all of Drake's business that jet had nothing to do with these sneakers sneakers had nothing to do with the fucking candle
Starting point is 02:24:32 it's all over the place but I'm not wearing the fucking TJ Maxx sevens at all cool on these these ain't the ones that were supposed to drop
Starting point is 02:24:42 once you say checks over stripes it's like nah I'm gonna get I'm gonna get some nah the stripes is were supposed to drop once you say checks over stripes. It's like, nah. I take them stripes. I'm going to get some. Nah, the stripes is kind of wild. I was about to say, the stripes is killing shit.
Starting point is 02:24:50 They're wilding out here now. Talk that for a little bit. Drake ain't wearing these. Never. He might. He might, though. I'm going to say he might. He's going to wear it in Portland, Oregon.
Starting point is 02:25:01 He might, though. At the Nike headquarters. As soon as I get to the car, I'm going to take these shits off. He's going to win each of the Blazers game. That's for sure. Smooth off.
Starting point is 02:25:13 Hey, speaking of, I don't know where we at now. I'll save it for Patriot. Dennis Schroeder's sick to his stomach. And so is Damian Lillard on the low. Why Damian? Yeah, why Damian? Because they ain't getting no money.
Starting point is 02:25:25 Tell me about the Blazers all season. They were. What they did. He's tight. What happened? Every team in America that made moves, and they didn't make not a one. Because he can already come to the Sixers, so we ain't worried about that. That nigga dropped his album.
Starting point is 02:25:37 He tied it up. I'm out. Nigga walking in the sand on the video. Hey, Dave's trying to figure out if they buy the CJ right now, man. Hey, hey, Dane's trying to figure out how to say bye to CJ right now, man. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:25:48 Do I mail him something? Buy him a home? You my man. Yo, I'm joking because both of these are my guys. I'm joking, I'm joking,
Starting point is 02:25:55 I'm joking. And they both kill us. And Dane already was about to fuck me up last time we mentioned him on this pod. They both kill us. That ain't got his
Starting point is 02:26:03 army shit on. Oh, it's over for Portland's GM. Yes, sir. No, no. Yo, I feel for him, though. As a sports fan, you see everything that's going on in the NBA, and they didn't make one move. I felt so bad.
Starting point is 02:26:17 Whatever I said about Dame, I said it like when he was fighting for, like, playoff position. He called me. He was mad at me. He was heated at me he was heated to me i felt so bad why i feel why i don't feel worse when my athlete people are mad at me than like the girls i speak to get off my phone shut up nigga dame cuss i'm so sorry i did what that's funny, yo. For real.
Starting point is 02:26:48 A nigga ain't hitting a 40-foot three-pointer because of something you said. It's like, all right. All right, man. That's fucked up. That's water for him. I feel sorry for you. What else? What else?
Starting point is 02:26:55 What else? What else? What else? It's a few of these niggas on this gold medal team that they got to stop going places with their little gold medal. Niggas, sit down. No. Why? Hell no.
Starting point is 02:27:07 You crazy. I was part of the practice team too, nigga. I don't give a damn if I didn't even get a uniform. I got a medal. You gonna see it. You gonna see it. You got me fucked up.
Starting point is 02:27:16 It's two kilos right there. Nigga, I could have been the reserve to the reserve. Some of you dudes just need to go hang that shit up in your living room. Stop showing up to the girls' basketball games with your little gold medal. I'm showing up to Whole Foods with the medal. Oh, please. Some of you niggas contributed to the deficit.
Starting point is 02:27:37 That's not true. Hey, nigga, we won. Hey, friends was kicking some of y'all. Some of y'all, I seen the worry on your face. Now you want to tweet, oh, we did it. I know. Yes, we did. Team sport.
Starting point is 02:27:48 Down 17 and third. I didn't see that energy. You got to be fucked up. Oh, man. Hey, one of y'all go call Isaiah Thomas, man. That nigga scoring 81 on any crate he could find. Hey, that nigga is dunking on milk crates. Any crate. He is shooting in trash cans. He is a killer on milk crates. That nigga said any crate.
Starting point is 02:28:05 He is shooting in trash cans. He is a killer on the trash can. Isaiah ain't playing with these niggas. Who picked him up? I don't know. No, he got picked. The Pelicans. I don't know nothing about these niggas.
Starting point is 02:28:16 The Pelicans, I think. That's what I thought somebody had picked him up. The Pelicans. Oh, they another one. They could kiss Zion goodbye. Hey, I'm sitting home just playing GM. Yeah. And I'm a bad GM, so I can spot the other bad GMs.
Starting point is 02:28:31 And you're seeing some bad ones. Like Alonzo left. Alonzo Cousin left. Fucking Ligello left. I don't even know the third brother name. He wasn't even on the Pelicans and he left. Ligello left. Ligello was like, nah, y'all, I'm cool.
Starting point is 02:28:46 He ain't on no team. He was like, nah, not the Pelicans. Hey, that nigga Zion called his dad so fast. Dad, you won't believe it. Everybody's going. Dad, say something. I can't. Tell him something's going on.
Starting point is 02:29:01 Say something. Hey, wait. Hey, Zion is seeing all of these reports about teams tampering successfully. Nigga don't even know how to tamper. Zion, call a friend. He's 12. Hey, man, make RJ Barrett hang up on Steve Nash and call him. Nigga.
Starting point is 02:29:20 He's done. They done. Pelicans? Yeah. Yeah. Bro, look who they starting back with. It mighticans yeah yeah bro look who they starting back with it might be a wrap look who they
Starting point is 02:29:28 starting back with it might be a wrap who uh Duke Josh Hart and Duke Graham Mad Dukes they got a team
Starting point is 02:29:37 full of Dukes yo look at all of these Dukes Duke Zion weighed the ball. Oh, poor Zion, man. Oh.
Starting point is 02:29:47 And we spent all our free agent money. Knicks ain't got nothing for you, nigga. Go play over there. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's funny. Dennis Schroeder we'll talk about on Patreon. He's in the middle of negotiating them with the Celtics for the mid-level exception.
Starting point is 02:30:01 And he turned down $84 million from the Lakers when they tried to extend him because he wanted a honey, right? Yep. He didn't know Westbrook was coming. Nope. Had he known Westbrook was going to come to the Lakers, he probably took it. Stoopy, though.
Starting point is 02:30:14 Stoopy, though. Yo, $84 million. Now you got to settle for the mid-level exception? Yeah, get that nine. I thought it was five. It's nine. He's fighting for a two-year deal, so. Yo, you ain't shit.
Starting point is 02:30:31 For saying the facts. It's just slapping the arm of the chair. Y'all ain't shit. To be honest. $84 million. Sometimes when you bet on yourself, you lose. So take that nine milli. Oh, I got a hot take.
Starting point is 02:30:47 And not the gun. I got an NBA hot take. And we'll revisit it a few years from now, but I got one. What? The Houston's pick was Jalen Green. Yes. You seen him? Did I?
Starting point is 02:31:07 You like him? Did I? You like him? Look one-ish to me. One-ish as in the number one pick in the draft? He's a monster. Oh, you're saying he's going to be the one? I get it. I'm saying it look like he could have been one. So that's your hot take?
Starting point is 02:31:24 Yeah, over Cade. Got it. Okay. We'll see. Ish, a few things real quick before we end this pod and play some sleepers. Your cousin fell down to the floor this weekend, was tapping the hardwood. Who? I mean your nephew.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Okay. You don't care? You don't have nothing to say about it? What are you asking me? Did you see your nephew when he fell down and was touching the floor? I did. What do you think?
Starting point is 02:31:52 Nothing. What am I supposed to think? Something. Get up, nephew. Stop that. What the fuck is he talking about? He got up, asshole. Get up, Craig.
Starting point is 02:32:03 Let me see that again. Get up, Craig. Let me see that see that again. Get up, Craig. Let me see that again. You want to tell me about the Knicks made a mistake. The Knicks did make a mistake. Well, let me see your nephew's mistake. Hey, Scream Man. Hey, Scream Man.
Starting point is 02:32:15 Hey, pull up. Ish nephew falling to the ground. No, no, no. Scream Man. Asking for a belt. Go to the highlights. Why he needed a belt to stand up? I don't even know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:32:23 I don't know neither. Can you just show me Ish Nephew falling down screaming for help? Oh, I know what you're talking about. It's everywhere. Just open your phone. Click on that. Click on that.
Starting point is 02:32:39 Right there, right? Yo, what are you doing? Yo, go. I got sleepers, man. That's cool. Hey, this is a brand new there. Hey, this is a brand new tune. Look, this is dumb. Hey, this is a brand new tune y'all never heard. Yo, y'all slept on this one. What? I asked him to show me him falling.
Starting point is 02:32:56 That's his pass. The other clip. Hey, show me him falling to the ground. Yeah, go back. You had it. He ain't got that in his phone. I seen it. Hey, pull it. Go back. Let's see it together. Yeah, go back. You had it. He ain't got that in his phone. I seen it. Hey, pull it. No, let's see
Starting point is 02:33:05 it together. That one. You're not going to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one. Oh, shit. Get up, his cousin. That's not him. Oh, that's not him. He made somebody fall. It don't matter. We're going to find it. Don't worry. We got it. We got it. They'll find it. You're going to find it. Don't worry. We got it. We got it. They'll find it. It's in the tour show. Hey, man, you are fired again.
Starting point is 02:33:29 You fired again. All right. I am playing a tune called Angels by Tanaje. Shout out to Tanaje. Congratulations to her. Her project is in your phone right this second. And I'm just a sucker for these types of songs, so I'm going to give it a go. Find that video for me when I finish this song.
Starting point is 02:33:53 Nigga missed the layup. Nino, slow it down. Oh, I see you in the night Oh, oh You and me, always feel right When we get close, we never gotta force it Woke up with you here on my mind Picture us now, drinking coffee on a Sunday Sunrise on the city of angels Everyday more friends are feeling like strangers
Starting point is 02:34:30 But you and me always feel right Better go home but I'll see you in the morning Yeah I know you from the city of the angels Take a shot for me in every single angle I know you're right for me because our love is tangled I tried to get away but baby I can't let it go Cause your vibe is like no other, I've seen this before Tainted ways, it's hard to cover and you'll
Starting point is 02:34:57 reap what you sow If you treat me like another Not certified but I'm your lover boy You and me, always feel right When we get close, we never gotta force it Woke up with you here on my mind Picture us now, drinking coffee on a Sunday Sunrise on the city of angels Everyday more friends are feeling like strangers But you and me always feel right
Starting point is 02:35:26 I gotta go home but I'll see you in the morning Oh, oh, oh, I'll see you in the morning Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh And I'm not afraid We'll face my face And the time slows down It's all okay Tell Uncle Ricky to turn up the music
Starting point is 02:36:06 Brand new music. This is called Angels by Tanaji. Featuring Kosh Page. Cash Page. How do you pronounce it? I love her. And shout out to both of these amazing, amazing artists. Sounded nice. New Joe Biden. artists. That's definitely your vibe.
Starting point is 02:36:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Yesterday is what would have been Vaughn's 27th birthday, so I'm playing I Am What I Am, Vaughn and Fabio. Wow. What? Fabio. What's going on? I am what I am, what I'm not, see I never be Niggas whooping up until we meet, catch em like I put him on TV And if I should die, I'm boosting the murder rate My niggas gon' slide every day, he be talkin' that shit, I can't wait
Starting point is 02:37:06 I am what I am, what I'm not, see, I never be Niggas whoopin' up until we meet, catch him like I put him on TV And if I should die, I'm boostin' the murder rate My niggas gon' slide every day, he be talkin' that shit, I can't wait Ayy, look, you know how we rock, I can't wait until we find the block Forever pop, we ain't never getting cool with the offer I get the money, I do it a lot Bow, I got it on me, he get shocked We give a fuck about the count
Starting point is 02:37:34 I yell woo, ain't know what to do I throw the set when I come in the room I heard they over a hundred mil Tell them boys I need a hundred and two Boom, boom, send me that addy, I'm comin' to boom Send me to Addie, I'm comin' to you Boom, boom, boom Send me to Addie, I'm comin' to you I just touched down Fallen like welcome to the rack Addie the gun, where's that?
Starting point is 02:37:53 It's GK on my back Boom, boom, boom And now you talkin' bout a tat Henny, yeah I don't have to lick, I don't know how to act I am what I am What I'm not, see I never be Niggas whoop whooping up until we meet
Starting point is 02:38:06 Catch em like I put him on TV And if I should die I'm boosting the murder rate My niggas gon' slide every day He been talking that shit, I can't wait I am what I am What I'm not, see I never be Niggas whooping up until we meet
Starting point is 02:38:19 Catch em like I put him on TV And if I should die I'm boosting the murder rate My niggas gon' slide every day He if I should die, I'm pushing the murder rate My niggas gon' slide every day He be talkin' that shit, I can't wait Niggas been puffin' a lot like I ain't on the block Boy, this shit'll get ugly
Starting point is 02:38:32 These niggas been talkin' the thought, actin' like I ain't hot Bitch, I'm givin' third degree I was 13 doin' burgers That nigga big brother used to serve for me I be fuckin' hoes that was curvin' Last nigga bailed, King Von, he served Grass on, I hit a bitch with my mask on They rob our career, I be dead wrong
Starting point is 02:38:47 When I'm on the sale, nigga calls on the cell phone 3D, Icebox shine my BBs My shit glow like cheap keys Switch on the Glock, got my bullets on repeat Niggas act tough, niggas don't wanna see me When they see me, niggas blind like Stevie Ain't fit in school, ain't learnin' bout a P Street Bitch off the P Street and end up like T Street
Starting point is 02:39:03 Duckin' with time, I do a hit and I'm in and I'm out Niggas be woofing for clout If he start with the black Then nigga, I'm striking him out I am what I am What I'm not, see, I never be Niggas whooping up until we meet Catch him like I put him on TV
Starting point is 02:39:15 And if I should die I'm boosting the murder rate My niggas gon' slide every day He been talking that shit and I can't wait I am what I am Yeah, that was I am what I am Von and Fabio Alright
Starting point is 02:39:29 Rest in peace Rest in peace, Von We'll play yours first Rest in peace, Von, of course So if you want to intro it I'm playing some classic shit So might as well get The new shit out the way
Starting point is 02:39:38 Classic hip-hop shit? Yes, I am So you play yours first You go first I wanted to hear your shit first Nah, it's alright, brother Benny the Butcher So you play yours first. You go first. I wanted to hear your shit first. Love you. It's all right, brother. Benny the Butcher with Rick High and G Herbo.
Starting point is 02:39:51 Alone. Alone. You ice and ice. You're jumping. You can see my shit lightin' up Through the booth window Oh my God, what's this? LV? Ah Straight like that, yeah I got a lot cause I'm loyal, that
Starting point is 02:40:29 And making work lock from the oil Black soprano, sign and get a chain Glock and a lawyer, notorious When you talking, running traps and enjoying it Shit, I graduated valedictorian They want me buried and broke But since 14, I been married to dope What we deserve deserve heaven and hell
Starting point is 02:40:45 apparently both my hustle way more advanced to double yay I dance had a brick of yay with a stamp to lunch with yay on the ranch got a thing for spotting hustlers and catching them hungry he did a dub but still remember the texture of money I sold dope been set up got arrested with money pay legal fees and made bail with the rest of the money I did a lot for my team, ain't takin' no cred But how you say you love a nigga and ain't breakin' no bread? We ran strips, now we break record labels instead Stay calm, that first million gon' play with your head I've led my life with this shit
Starting point is 02:41:18 It was so much sacrifice and this shit That I ain't use no one advice in this shit I spearheaded my own movement I control my own music Mama always taught me no expression when you going through it. When she told me it was cancer I ain't know that she was going through it. It was too late. Her soul was too great. Guess God needed an angel and I needed an angle I wish that I could talk you up. I sigh and then I chalk it up The boogie had me dancing with the devil when I felt it
Starting point is 02:41:42 Always got this feeling from the money when I dealt it If we talking smoke, I want it all like I'm selfish Don't know if I'm a fryer, I'm a griller like a shellfish At the steakhouse with a Lando and a lobster on Atlantic You don't get this opportunity like running out of chances My third and fourth tour, I'm raking up more Why you worried about mine? Should be worried about yours, motherfucker I was thuggin' it for real Why you worried bout mine, should be worried bout yours, motherfucker
Starting point is 02:42:05 I was thuggin' it for real, 40 by my rib I'm out there bustin' off them pills Tryin' to tell my lil' bro chill, cause he gon' kill somethin' Just lost one of my niggas, tryna grieve but I can't feel nothin' We right back in that feel for him, back on action like we missin' it My aunties told my mama, try to stop me, I wasn't listenin' Our mamas on that concrete, he keep bleeding as she kissing him Couldn't catch us with them glocks, so they just locked us for soliciting But shh, cause they listening, triple Cuban link, I'm glistening
Starting point is 02:42:31 Better not reach cause that's too risky, might get held to your decisions It's a given shit that sealed them if I'm held in that position Plus I held it with precision, don't get shot for my suspicion I'm just trying to get some millions, that was not in my intentions I'm still fresh about the trenches Gen 5 up in my dickies And this rap shit help me duck a jail sentence DJ L a witness Can't be sitting up in no cell, silly I got bell with me Can't afford to take no L's, silly I got L's with me
Starting point is 02:42:56 Rhyme foreign, ain't no L's with me Am I still with me? Where I'm from, you gon' get little pity That shit real gritty I got niggas gon' do work for me From them real cities Count up money when I'm lazy My girl chill with me Yeah, my bitch, she know I'm crazy But she still with me The more I saw, the less it fazed me But what else could you expect if I'm a Essex baby? Smokin' weed cause I be goin' post-traumatic crazy Know this trap house ain't my mama, but she gotta raise me
Starting point is 02:43:21 And this granny wasn't Christian, but she tried to save him No, he ain't give her no diploma, she just got a daisy damn that's crazy crazy that's alone benny the butcher and rick hod hey man i guess when herbo stay on the beat he's not to be fucked with yo he went in he went. He went in. He went over 16. Yeah. No, that was definitely over 16. Yeah. Yeah, he went in. That was nice.
Starting point is 02:43:48 That was all right-ish. Yeah, man. Let's go, Ish. Nah, you be all right with these shits. I'm playing some classic De La Soul shit, man. I knew that.
Starting point is 02:43:56 This is Texas. I knew that was coming. So when you say classic, I knew exactly what record and everything. You know the record too? I'm a scene. I got a scene. All right.
Starting point is 02:44:06 Let's get it going. Big shit. Let me see. What's that? Trace. Long left Dilla. Let's get it going. Let's get it going.
Starting point is 02:44:14 Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going.
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Starting point is 02:44:22 Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going.
Starting point is 02:44:23 Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. Let The Instamatic Focal Point bringin' damage to your burrow
Starting point is 02:44:45 Be some brothers from the east, with them beats that be thorough Got the solar gravitation, so I'm bound to pull it I gets down like brothers are found, duckin' from bullets Gun control means usin' both hands in my land Where it's all about the cautious livin' Migratin' to a higher form of consequence Compliments, a strugglin' that shouldn't be notable Man, every word I say should be a hip-hop photo
Starting point is 02:45:06 I'm sick of bitches shaking asses I'm sick of talking about blood, sick of Versace glasses Sick of slang, sick of half-assed award shows Sick of name brand clothes Sick of R&B bitches over bullshit tracks Cocaine and crack, which brings sickness to black Sick of swole-haired rappers with they sickening raps Claps and gaps, making a whole sick world collapse
Starting point is 02:45:24 The facts of getting sick and even sicker perhaps They can swole head rappers with they sickening raps Claps and gaps, making a whole sick world collapse The facts are getting sicker, even sicker perhaps I'm sticking push to make a bundle to escape the synapse Man life can get all up in your ass baby you better work it out Now let me tell you what it's all about A skin not considered equal, a meteor has more right Than my people who be wasting time screaming who they've hated That's why the native tongues has officially been reinstated
Starting point is 02:45:45 Fire, fire, fire Stakes is high, you know them stakes is high When we talking bout fire, fire Fire, fire, fire Y'all know them stakes is high when we dealing with them Fire, fire, fire Stakes is high, man them stakes is high, when you dealing with them Man mistakes is high, man mistakes is high Yo it's about love of cars, love of fucks Loving to love mad sex, loving to love guns
Starting point is 02:46:14 Love for opposite, love for fame and wealth Love for the fact of no longer loving yourself kid We living in them days of the man made ways Where every aspect is vivid These brothers no longer talk shit, yo These niggas livid Bout to give it to you 24-7 on the microphone Plug one, translate in the zone No offense to a player, but yo, I don't play And if you take defense, fuck it, got to be that way JDW, show your love, what you got to say?
Starting point is 02:46:40 I say G's will make you niggas out of high regard And niggas dying for it nowadays ain't hard Investing in fantasies and not God Welcome to reality, see time is hard People try to snatch the credit but can't claim the card Showing out in videos saying they co-starred See shit like that'll make your mama cry Better watch the way you spend it cause the stakes is high
Starting point is 02:47:01 You know them stakes is high When you're dealing with the The stakes is high, De La Soul Classic shit high when you're dealing with them. The stakes is high. De La Soul. Classic shit. Shout out to them for getting their shit back. Now everybody can listen to it. Now everybody can stream it.
Starting point is 02:47:12 Although it was dope what they did before. They just sent everybody these albums. Probably like five or six years ago. You could just get on a mailing list and they sent everyone their entire discography. Yo, how old was you when Three Feet High and Rising came out? What year was that? 15, 16, somewhere in there. Nah, no way. Stakes aside,et High and Rising came out? What year was that? 15, 16, somewhere in there.
Starting point is 02:47:26 Nah, no way. Stakes is High was like 96, 97. I was like 12. 96, 97. I was like 11 years old. He said Three Feet High and Rising?
Starting point is 02:47:33 No, Stakes is High. No, he said Three Feet High and Rising. Oh, I was fucking six. Yeah, I'm about to say no way. Yeah, no. I thought you said
Starting point is 02:47:41 Stakes is High because I remember when Stakes is High came out. Yeah, that was 96. Three Feet High Rising Was 89 Yeah like I was in like
Starting point is 02:47:47 Middle school He was already outside Yeah I was in high school Pink tops or blue tops I wasn't hustling Oh This guy Is a nutcase
Starting point is 02:47:59 Yo I wasn't off I was off the porch But I wasn't off the porch That early Doing nigga shit Yo free all the fucking Violent thugs
Starting point is 02:48:08 Just open the cages Or not Or not You don't like that No You don't like that idea No Why not
Starting point is 02:48:17 Look Freedomandum Why not You don't need everybody Not freedomandum Why not though You just don't need it Some people Not freedom-and-dom? Why not, though? You just don't need it. Some people need, you know,
Starting point is 02:48:26 some people need the crime. Catch your ass in Elizabeth at that gas station and crack your fucking moment. No, no, no, no. I'd be in the house. I know. You gotta get gas.
Starting point is 02:48:34 In Jersey, I don't pump it. I stay in the car. Different shell. I stay in the car. I'm not going to. This shell can get to you while you're seated in the car too No bullshit
Starting point is 02:48:49 Alright where am I at here man This is a good pod today A little serious but That's good every now and then though Yeah sometimes it's a necessary serious Yeah On Patreon I'll talk about how I two-stepped Mary under a table somewhere.
Starting point is 02:49:07 You know what I mean? I ain't get to it this part. We have more important shit to talk about. I'm lying. I had to see that. I'm lying. Everybody, I'm lying. I had to see that.
Starting point is 02:49:18 I was just like, get it off. No, you get busy sometimes. Yeah, but no, it's Mary. I know. She had sneakers on. And a drink or two. Yeah, she was. You said she had sneakers on? Yeah. Yeah, but no, it was Mary. I know. Mary pulled. She had sneakers on. And a drink or two. Yeah, she was. You said she had sneakers on?
Starting point is 02:49:27 Yeah. Yeah, I was here. Yeah, yeah, no. We ain't want none of that. It was a jamboree, dancery, whatever she said. All of that. But I made it to the two-step finals against Mary. That's the accomplishment.
Starting point is 02:49:40 Yeah. Well, who? I said the finals. How many teams in the finals ish? No I'm saying Who was on your team? No me and her Oh y'all two was on
Starting point is 02:49:49 That was the two step final In my head anyway But in her head She was dancing Had a cookout Just some music It was preseason for her In my head
Starting point is 02:49:58 This was the last scene This is the show off This is the last scene In Dodgeball This is training camp Fam This was it I'm gonna save this For Patreon Save this for Patreon But a song is coming on the last scene in Dodgeball. This is training camp. Fam. This was it.
Starting point is 02:50:06 I'm going to save it as a Patreon. Yeah, yeah. Save it as a Patreon. Save it as a Patreon. A song is coming on. You and your groove two-stepping around ambiance and look up. And Mary is in front of you. That's a face-off. That's a challenge.
Starting point is 02:50:18 You look up and Mary like the same song you like. And it's two-step. And one of two-step too. And looking at you, what's up young nigga whoa whoa and then you are young like damn
Starting point is 02:50:30 I'm younger than her that's a that's a two step final like 50 huh it's about 50 I have to be close to that if I'm 41
Starting point is 02:50:39 you remind me it's 91 you're a young nigga when you hang out with like adults like all the age shaming I do to the young people and they don't like it the older people do it to me
Starting point is 02:50:50 I don't like it I'm turning to Mary up now real good pod today man real good pod listen I don't know who out there needs to hear it but I love love you. We need you here. Hopefully you are all right. Keep the mental health just as high as the frequencies and the vibrations. Stay away from low-quality conversations with low-quality people.
Starting point is 02:51:16 That's what I got for you, man. Do remember. It go. Take your time. Baby, don't you rush a thing. Nigga, I would have two-stepped to this if it came on Yo keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time I bid you adieu Farewell, adios, arriba, dirci, hasta la vista, so long, goodbye Yo what you bout to get into, all of that
Starting point is 02:51:43 Yo your Uber's outside On Patreon I'ma talk about how much I hate Uber I fucking hate Uber Anyway And life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last As if it's all we have
Starting point is 02:52:00 Last but not least The baddies are insecure The stagnant women wanna travel And the stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things grab an ib propane enjoy your headache and we'll be back this week at st. thomas it go shut up If you look in my life, you'll see what I've seen If you look in my life, you'll see what I've seen If you look in my life, you'll see what I've seen Rest in peace, Chucky Thompson.
Starting point is 02:52:40 We love you, we will miss you forever, and thank you. Just thank you From me, from all of us here From all of us who have ever heard a song Just thank you

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